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A New Image From The STAR TREK Film Shows...Not Much!!

Published at:  Feb 27, 2009 9:49:47 AM CST


Merrick here...


I'm getting really, really, really frustrated with the marketing for Abrams' STAR TREK.

All the footage we've been seeing is from the same four or five sequences - sometimes it's exactly the same material we've seen before, rearranged. Many of the publicity photos we've seen are repeats or variants of Pine & Quinto staring into the camera like gloomy stalker pervs.

Everyone who has seen this movie talks about how fantastic it is & many indicate there's tons of stuff in the film that hasn't even seen hinted at by the footage we've been fed thus far. I understand and appreciate Abrams' desire to hold back some secrets/surprises until we get to the theater, but surely the film offers enough variety so that a few more ingredients can be shared? So far, this is all feeling...not entirely convincing.

This said, Total Film has posted one of the only new bits of JJ TREK media to hit in a while: it's a shot of Kirk and Spock talking to Hulk on the bridge view screen. Hope they can fix that reception - looks like that screen would have pretty sweet HD when it's up and running.

Click the pic to jump to the article of origin.





Also, this next thing went online some time ago & didn't seem like it was worthy of a post by itself. But, since we're talking about TREK...

The movie's official site has a new feature allowing users to (partially) navigate two Enterprise corridors. You can zoom in on a few control panels, etc.

Click the pic below to go there...



then... ENTER THE SITE ---> NAV ---> PANORAMAS. Select which corridor you want to peruse, and when the file opens up start dragging your mouse across it.









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    Readers Talkback

  • Feb 27, 2009 9:50:40 AM CST

    hmm

    by blackhole4140

    big screen tv's haven't improved much in the future

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  • Feb 27, 2009 9:50:50 AM CST

    The ship looks more high tech than Next Gen era...

    by mrsentinel

    Ay yi yi...

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  • Feb 27, 2009 9:51:33 AM CST

    It's also been confirmed that Kurt Lockwood has a cameo...

    by mrsentinel

    Excellent....

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  • Feb 27, 2009 9:53:50 AM CST

    Merrick is right...

    by robert.thekilled

    This is getting old. This new universe better hold more to offer than the same tired shit we have been exposed to on the big and small screen the past 10 years. DS9 proved the last of the greats.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 9:54:17 AM CST

    Curse you, blackhole4140!

    by bassmanbish

    Thought I was actually going to be first! I think it looks really cool and retro-futuristic. From what I've seen so far, the art design is going to be an eyeball-molesting treat. CAN'T WAIT!

    Reply to Talkback

  • And what's with ripping off the set design from the "Old Dave Bowman" scenes of 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY?

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  • Feb 27, 2009 9:55:55 AM CST

    The Rings Around Uranus!

    by clarence boddicker

    just sayin...otherwise...don't worry Merrick. I personally like the fact that not much has been revealed. Also, in no way does this look like a made for tv special. Unlike the last 5 films. Some were GOOD made for tv specials mind you.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 9:56:14 AM CST

    SEVENTH!

    by photosuperstar

    Ha! Bitches!

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  • Feb 27, 2009 9:56:19 AM CST

    There is no way

    by flyingcircus

    that a functional vessel would ever be designed like that. Completely impractical. I can't suspend disbelief enough to buy that. I want my corrugated metal floors and ABS plastic wall panels. What is this shiny, gloss-floored, glass walls ship mess?

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  • Feb 27, 2009 9:57:14 AM CST

    Er, I MEAN 8TH AND 9TH!

    by photosuperstar

  • Feb 27, 2009 9:58:31 AM CST

    Looks like it'll explode real good.

    by v'shael

    Plenty of sparks and smokes, because we've lost circuit breaker technology in the future.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 10:00:29 AM CST

    Merrick is wrong

    by holyjebus

    I couldn't disagree with Merrick more on wanting to see more in the trailers. I find that most blockbusters are ruined these days by showing all the money shots in the trailers. I remember back in the day getting goosebumps during blockbusters when there was an amazing action scene. This hasn't happened for years for me since trailers always show these scenes (or at least glimpses of these scenes) in advance. The Matrix was prob the last movie for me that still had such unspoiled scenes. I much prefer mysterious trailers then ones that just show quick glimpses of all the best action scenes of the movie.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 10:02:29 AM CST

    MY...GOD...

    by mr. nice gaius

    SHIELDS!!!

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  • Feb 27, 2009 10:06:06 AM CST

    Keep SOME tradition....

    by tuttle300

    I dunno-
    That corrider looks more like the Next Generation hallway than anything from the Kirk classic.
    This is after all supposed to be the crew's first meeting.
    And the bridge really looks awful as well. It's too bright and there aren't enough colors. I was really hoping for a look more in tune with the classic 60's bridge design, which by the way, STILL looks great 40 years later. (and in fact the Next Generation series, for the most part, KEPT that iconic design.
    Being this is a new millenium update OF that classic series, I expected SOME adaptations but nothing that would overshadow certain iconic images
    Like the engines of the Enterprise
    Like the bridge
    At least they got the costumes correct. The costumes ARE a perfect blending of today's materials and design sense while keeping the iconic traditions of the old show. Major kudos to the costume department.
    Hopefully the writing will save the whole film. (Just like the writing of the classic series is the number one reason it's still showing around the world today)

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  • Feb 27, 2009 10:06:49 AM CST

    I'm GLAD they're not showing us too much

    by performingmonkey

    Usually these days that means they're scared to do so but I think Abrams has got this covered. We end up feeling we've experienced the movie before we actually have. It's like going to see it is the final piece in the puzzle, NOT the whole shebang. I want the whole shebang in my face(...) in the theater. The last movie that made me feel like that was, seriously, Fellowship of the Ring. I wasn't at all prepared for how brilliant it was. Yes, we'd seen trailers and TV spots, but there was SO MUCH that hadn't been revealed. Pirates of the Caribbean: TCOTBP as well. Who woulda thunk it would turn out the way it did? I want to be surprised, shocked, entertained in the cinema.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 10:09:41 AM CST

    Star Trek Wars

    by spyhunter

    Looking at that hallway it almost looks like the ship interior from the opening of ANH.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 10:11:18 AM CST

    Eyes are for seeing.

    by thejake

    And I'm gonna hold off on getting excited about this movie until I actually see it. Especially given the fact that JJ Abrams has yet to make a movie that I've enjoyed.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 10:11:21 AM CST

    Looks like the Power Ranger's Boss.

    by the8thsamurai

    Zordon or something? Is he recruiting teenagers with attitudes?

    THat said, I can't wait for this movie.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 10:12:19 AM CST

    That corridor resembles nothing in Trek.

    by ninjarap

    No Enterprise, not even Voyager, looked like that.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 10:12:24 AM CST

    Too bad they couldn't upgrade story too.

    by kabong

    The glitz is glitzy.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 10:21:54 AM CST

    Production Design

    by saintaugust

    This shit is not going to age well. That's the problem when your main design guideline is "just make it look cool." It's the same problem the prequels suffered from in comparison to the original trilogy. The internal logic of the world makes no sense. Sci Fi Art Direction has to have the illusion of functionality, if it's to stand the test of the time. So this already looks dated, who gives a shit, right? It didnt' hurt the Chronciles of Riddick.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 10:22:08 AM CST

    Why is the screen so big?

    by hobocode

    Wasn't it the size of a 42" plasma in the original series?

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  • Feb 27, 2009 10:23:17 AM CST

    HOBOCODE

    by unkempt_sock

  • Feb 27, 2009 10:23:26 AM CST

    So basically Merrick is bitching

    by indycollector

    that the film isn't spoiled enough.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 10:26:23 AM CST

    Shit Harry

    by technotranceporter

    Did you see that video resolution? I bet Harry will give this movie a shitty review like he did 'Minority Report'. You know, because Harry bashed one of the truly greatest Sci Fi films in the past 20 years, because it didn't meet Harrys expectations of what T.V will look like in the future. Ha ha ha! Tard!

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  • Feb 27, 2009 10:33:34 AM CST

    tuttle300 - 'Hopefully the writing will save the whole film'

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Time to dash those hopes, this film is 'written' by Kurtzman and Orci.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 10:34:28 AM CST

    hobocode

    by eats_sandwich_gets_laid.

    it was also about the size of a 42" LCD, or a 42" DLP. Turns out they're the same size.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 10:34:33 AM CST

    saintaugust

    by kwisatzhaderach

    "The internal logic of the world makes no sense." - How does this apply to the prequels?

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  • Feb 27, 2009 10:35:22 AM CST

    Looks like the Millenium Falcon hallway

    by rev_skarekroe

    Luke and the gang are hiding under the floors.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 10:35:42 AM CST

    Darth Vader = Capt. Kirk

    by dioxholster

    u know its true.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 10:37:13 AM CST

    Zoom out dude!

    by baron karza

    Is Eric Bana holding the camera with his other hand? Is this a Myspace profile pic?

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  • Feb 27, 2009 10:39:26 AM CST

    Lack of info is good

    by superfleish76

    It's Star Trek, you're going to go just to see how it stacks up to the originals. The less you know, the less expectations you will have heaped upon already pre-conceived notions of what it should and shouldn't be.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 10:39:31 AM CST

    I'm inclined to agree with Robert The Killed...

    by mrsentinel

    DS9 was the last great Trek venture. Seems like everything else was a new attempt at reinventing the wheel. all this new Trek is going to do is basically re-write the original series as if it never happened. It's what Paramount has wanted to do for years and this will pretty much do that. If they're going to do a re-boot, then just call it a re-boot and be done with it. No one would bitch if they did a re-boot. They re-booted Galactica and look how awesome that is. I would welcome a re-boot, so long as they don't forget the true spirit of the original series.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 10:40:09 AM CST

    Fucking pointless

    by rat fink

  • Feb 27, 2009 10:41:38 AM CST

    Far from frustrated..

    by richievanderlow

    I'm sick of marketing campaigns that give us too much. I'm hoping JJ stays on this fundamental path with not giving us too much. While I loved getting Nimoy Spock in that one trailer, I kind of wished they hadn't. I want to be surprised and not start to realize what's coming because of what I've seen in the trailer. We don't need another trailer or anything.. just let it go until its released as far as I'm concerned.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 10:44:56 AM CST

    I like that the video feed is messed up

    by dioxholster

    makes it interesting

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  • Feb 27, 2009 10:45:47 AM CST

    mrSentinel

    by richievanderlow

    I agree... I think too much attention has been given to those that are screaming for the movie to adhere to 'canon'. I could care less.. ST canon has been violated for so long, and its extremely convoluted. I don't want a good story to be compromised because of some so called 'inviolate' rule of canon. Berman and co. set aside or rewrote it whenever they wanted, so at this point, what's the big deal?

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  • Feb 27, 2009 10:47:43 AM CST

    if no blue penis then im not watching

    by dioxholster

    need my blue penis

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  • Feb 27, 2009 10:52:04 AM CST

    Is this Star Trek or 2001: A Space Odyssey?

    by revenge_of_fett

    This seems WAY too high tech for the first warp ship ever! Still looking forward to the movie, just seems very odd.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 10:54:51 AM CST

    PEEWEE HERMAN'S GENIE OFF THE DOLE

    by mullah omar

    Good to see Jambi getting some work again.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 10:55:11 AM CST

    Not the first warp ship

    by toonol

    it's almost two centuries after the first warp ship.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 10:55:46 AM CST

    REVENGE_of_FETT

    by kwisatzhaderach

    It sure ain't 2001: A Space Odyssey!

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  • Feb 27, 2009 10:56:36 AM CST

    I think it's great....

    by yodaismyhomie

    that they aren't showing too much. I've grown tired of movies that reveal far too much in trailers. I remember when I was a kid (and there was no internet) you got to see a trailer and a TV commercial. Perhaps you picked up a magazine with a few extra pictures...not much though. If you got three or four magazines, they would have the exact same pictures. There was very little revealed and it made the film more interesting. I rarely go to the movies anymore because they show so much in the trailer that I don't feel I need to see a movie.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 10:57:08 AM CST

    first warp ship

    by dioxholster

    i bet it all looks shiny and stuff but when the shit hits the fan it will skin it alive. JJ likes that shit. all the bells and whistles wont function properly and the ship will later appear as nothing but good looks.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 10:57:25 AM CST

    How could canon adherence hurt story?

    by kabong

    Paramount and JarJar want the canon destroyed because they don't like it, not because it interferes with their "story-making."

    They want the ST movie to hit the implied twelve-year-old idiot audience (which, like any implied audience, does not exist) because that is Hollyweird law in this current debased era of movie-making.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 10:58:51 AM CST

    and yes galaxy quest is the best star trek EVAR!

    by dioxholster

    it was perfect.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 11:01:17 AM CST

    There doing just fine

    by dkev00

    It's nice to not have the movie ruined for me by trailers before I get to see the feature. More clips? Your on crack.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 11:01:26 AM CST

    Merrick likes shemale pussy

    by dioxholster

    he likes to spoil it daily

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  • Feb 27, 2009 11:02:39 AM CST

    This thing has got to be ready to preview somewhere

    by skimn

    right? Outside of all FX and music its got to be pretty complete...right? Although, to give Paramount credit, they are wetting our beaks with just a glimpse here and there of sets and gadgets...maybe its the less-is-more theory?

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  • Feb 27, 2009 11:07:00 AM CST

    Gee,

    by skimn

    guess I should have read the posts before me...

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  • Feb 27, 2009 11:08:56 AM CST

    Ship design...

    by docmhumphrey

    I wish ships looked like that when I was in the Navy...

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  • Feb 27, 2009 11:09:24 AM CST

    needs half naked green girls

    by zom-bot.com

    then i'm sold

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  • Feb 27, 2009 11:10:50 AM CST

    Patience

    by directorsaab

    Merrick and the rest of you, have some patience, just go see the damn thing when it comes out. Why do you need to see more? Whether you see one or a hundred tidbits about this film, you will be in line to see this thing. May is just around the corner, quit complaining. Sheesh.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 11:18:57 AM CST

    So Kirk is taller than Spock?

    by bumpasses dawg

    Or is Spock just shorter than Kirk?

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  • Feb 27, 2009 11:22:53 AM CST

    This Trek is Not for Fans

    by jumpinjehosaphat

    Or, at least that's the direction they appear to be heading. The desire is to only show some specific, new "iconography" and keep the rest a surprise. Really, the only people who might want to see more bits outside of the film in its entirety would be the fans. And really, 9/10ths have already passed judgement, so any new footage wouldn't really change fanboy minds.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 11:29:01 AM CST

    Star Trek = This year's Superman Returns

    by muki

    Brilliant visual effects, brilliant production design, new young actors playing classic roles but ultimately all rather bland and pointless

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  • Feb 27, 2009 11:32:39 AM CST

    Another Pathetic Item

    by aquatarkusman

    Be sure to tell us when a second assistant director farts on set next.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 11:43:07 AM CST

    Promotional campaigns usually show too much

    by dreamfasting

    I'm glad when promotional campaigns hold back - as much as enjoy the hype and buildup, it's gotten to the point where for many blockbusters, the movie itself is anticlimactic ... it's now often more fun to not see a movie and just entertain myself with the buzz and the clips and let my own imagination fill in the rest.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 11:46:17 AM CST

    Maybe he's posting from Youtube

    by kikuchiyoboy

    The intergalactic Youtube.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 12:01:24 PM CST

    The Bridge

    by snomusic

    ...reminds me of the 'control tower' part of The Matrix reloaded.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 12:26:09 PM CST

    Agree with Muki

    by iamjack'suserid

    Sacrificing the optimism of the source for real-world grit and believability -- check. A young, inexperienced cast that can't match previous versions and thrown in for their pretty looks -- check. A story that can't decide whether it's a reboot or a continuation despite elements of both -- check.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 12:38:54 PM CST

    I

    by sean38

  • Feb 27, 2009 12:39:00 PM CST

    Cake-and-Eat-It-Too filmmaking

    by jumpinjehosaphat

    IamJack and Muki... you may well have hit the nail on the head with this trend in franchise restructuring. Will this film try to please too many people to be worthwhile?

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  • Feb 27, 2009 12:39:43 PM CST

    I'm Glad JJ Is Holding Back

    by sean38

    Personally, I feel as if I've already seen the entire Watchmen movie. I don't mind a marketing campaign that doesn't give away all the goods before the film opens.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 12:44:21 PM CST

    BANNNAA!!!!!

    by stuntcock mike

  • Feb 27, 2009 12:47:14 PM CST

    We need something WRATH OF KHANISH!

    by kinghenryviii

    Then I'd be excited. Something always about the "kiddies" growing into what we know of today. The "starter" story. Ugh. That promo with young Kirk driving the car made me groan. Hopefully this'll be better but damn I'm just waiting for DVD. Not convinced.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 12:49:23 PM CST

    My favorite trek film is Master and Commander

    by guy who got a headache and accidentally

  • Feb 27, 2009 12:59:02 PM CST

    Kirk & Spock working at the Apple Store

    by somashine

    hey man..can you work for me on Saturday?

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  • Feb 27, 2009 1:00:24 PM CST

    Merrick..do you talk to Harry?

    by somashine

    He's got tons of JJ's table scraps for you to sift through I'm sure

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  • Feb 27, 2009 1:04:37 PM CST

    Is Chris Pine wearing high heels? Cos he isn't that tall.

    by damien chowder

    Neither was Kirk! Unless Spylar has to kneel in every scene!

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  • Feb 27, 2009 1:05:36 PM CST

    Comparing this to Superman Returns is stupid.

    by critch

    Considering that the freaking trailer for Trek has more action than Superman Returns, and instead of just making a direct copy of the old films Abrams is making something unique, a continuation and a reboot all rolled into one..Yeah, it's ridiculous.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 1:15:43 PM CST

    Eric Bana's total lack of chin in WIDESCREEN!

    by gruntybear

    Um. Hoo-rie-aye. Or something.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 1:16:50 PM CST

    Merrick, you're an idiot

    by mattmanreturns

    God forbid we'd want to be surprised by a movie for once, and not know everything that's coming.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 1:18:14 PM CST

    That's limited thinking on your part, critch.

    by iamjack'suserid

    If you can't see the similarities between these two franchises and how they've been handled/realized, that's your own fault. No one said anything about action.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 1:38:26 PM CST

    ZORDON!!!

    by thelivingdoll

    But where the fuck is Alpha?

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  • Feb 27, 2009 1:42:55 PM CST

    God damn time travel...

    by darth macchio

    Time travel is the hobgoblin of small minded screenwriters. Natch!Ok, not really but god damn time travel in Trek is about rare as using Lex Luthor as the main baddie in Supe films.I do not watch Lost so therefor have no innate need to give props to Abrahms. MI3 was clever but not better than the first. I haven't seen anything else he directed specifically so I have no faith either way but the best Trek episodes for me were the ones without time travel (expection being ToS as they were the first and it hadn't become a god damn broken record in the show). Time Travel should have its own term like McGuffin or the Wilhelm. Except the Wilhelm is actually kewl, the mcguffin is a necessary evil and time travel is the new "guy in Dallas isn't dead but was actually dreaming" asstoast. So says I!!!

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  • Feb 27, 2009 1:46:05 PM CST

    looks like a model of the DC metro

    by arcadian del sol

  • Feb 27, 2009 1:48:52 PM CST

    JJ Abrams: "what if Apple created Star Fleet?"

    by arcadian del sol

    Gentlemen, I give you the I-terprise.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 1:52:11 PM CST

    "And suddenly...

    by everythingeverywherestinks

    "There was a tremendous roar in the sky, and my eyes saw the once proud, long-shot franchise that had been kept alive purely by the love of it's followers fall from the cinematic heavens in a fiery shitball of garbage. And the newly anointed angels of this dying franchise, douchebags that went by names like JJ, Roberto, Alex, Bryan and Damon cackled with glee as they fell, unaware that they sucked and that the vast majority of the human diaspora gave not one shit for Star Trek. Only the sad, greasy, fat man-children who desperately needed their Trek fix bothered to pay attention. And they followed their dying shitball franchise into The Pit, where it came to a rest and bothered no virgin ever again." - The Book of Wake the Fuck Up 10.21

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  • Feb 27, 2009 1:58:20 PM CST

    Yay, more crap images from this dubious project.

    by jt kirk

    So, in the future, Kirk and Spock will talk to people on the gigantic main viewer from 2 feet away, and they'll have to wear 3D glasses to get the full effect???And that corridor looks awful. Too many people on this project doing reimagining without enough of the "re" part, just throwing their own bad ideas into this. The Enterprise corridors were designed to make sense in several ways, and this eyesore is not among any of them. But I guess living in the Automat part of an Apple Store is somehow supposed to make sense to someone.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 2:25:40 PM CST

    HULK SMASH PUNY STALKER PERVS!

    by kafka07

    Yeah I am not excited about this movie at all. It's probably really good but since they're not tempting us with much, I just don't give two shits. So far, I plan on merely Netflix-ing it.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 2:34:39 PM CST

    Time Travel Bitches...

    by zardozap2005

    Time travel is the jump-off/reboot point for the new movie. After that, it's pretty much unimportant. Yes, the bad guy if from the future, but so what? There are plenty of other bad guys that won't be. Hope they make Hulk VS. Mouth Breathing Fanboy Whiners. I'll pay for that one.

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  • Alright, so I'm showing my age. But I remember knowing nothing about Star Wars except for the trailers and being surprised by what I saw. Imagine, if we had all this over-saturated media when The Empire Strikes Back came out. The movie would have been ruined.
    JJ is the same age as I am and he knows this. He did it for cloverfield and he's doing for Star Trek, and I dig it. I wish every studio would do that.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 3:11:19 PM CST

    this was posted 3 days ago at TrekMovie.com

    by boomers_lips

    why is it being posted here now so late???

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  • Feb 27, 2009 3:16:11 PM CST

    This looked promising at first ...

    by l. ron bumquist

    but the more they release the worse it looks. the proper trailer looked like a Lost In Space sequel.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 3:39:21 PM CST

    FUCK you Bob Orci...Fuck you in your Amateur Ear.

    by conspiracy

    How long before Hollywood wakes up and realises this crew are FUCKING AMATEUR! Is having ONE hit TV show all it takes to be annointed as "Genius" or "Visionary" in Tinseltown these days? Is the place so creatively bankrupt that it needs to steal novel ideas from 40 years ago and reimagine them with more explosions, sex, and sets while simply rehashing cliched plot lines like "Time Travel"? So far I see nothing worth paying for here. If there was a decent story..they'd be dying to tell us, if there were some truely novel creative twist to whatr was...they'd hint at it. However given the "Talent" involved with this creation...I'll be surprised if we don't get a scene of where Kirk tells young Checkov it is OK to masturbate or one where Spock takes a whiz on Uhura during a threesome with Kirk and proclaims "My Bad".

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  • Feb 27, 2009 3:42:05 PM CST

    Darth_Kaos...I Disagree totally...

    by conspiracy

    If JJ had told us more about "Cloverfield" I wouldn't have wasted $12 bucks and my time seeing it.

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  • Your comments about the trailer for Trek kinda illustrate my point. Sure it’s full of action and fancy visuals but, like Superman Returns, doesn’t it bother you that nobody seems to be talking about the story or the quality of the script? That’s usually not a good sign – as we found out with Superman Returns. I’m telling you, the entire trailer is nothing but a classic example of smoke and mirrors and in your case it seems to have worked – simple things for simple minds I guess. Also your comment that Abrams is making something unique is, frankly, absolutely fucking retarded. How is recycling a 40+ year old franchise using the same characters, the same costumes, the same ship etc. considered unique?

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  • Feb 27, 2009 3:46:17 PM CST

    Muki...Preach it!!!! My Point exactly!

    by conspiracy

  • Feb 27, 2009 3:48:57 PM CST

    Another thing

    by muki

    Whether you consider this to be Trek XI or a reboot of the franchise, it's still an odd numbered Star Trek movie - and will therefore be shite.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 3:52:22 PM CST

    conspiracy -- you crack me up

    by boborci

    I figure it will take at least five years for the town to get wise that Alex and my only talent is to manipulate people into making movies and TV shows.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 4:03:02 PM CST

    Boborci...Fuck why so pessimistic Bob?

    by conspiracy

    Thats just enough time to pay off the cars and pad that offshore account.Look how long you've fooled um so far! Hell Bob, you should be dancing in the streets...the way the industry is churning out complete shit these days you just might have a shot at an Oscar someday. Todays drooling, illiterate retard who thinks pissing, "jive" talking Robots and Bra wearing Uhura are cool is probably tomorrows Academy voter. But none of that changes the fact that you and your partners write what is without question some of the most simplistic, moronic, low brow, unsophisticated shit that has ever made it to production.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 4:10:26 PM CST

    "really frustrated with marketing..."

    by 24200124

    Merrick, with all due respect, just because JJ Abrams wants to keep surprises in his film unleaked to the masses doesn't mean that they're trying to job you. Remember back in the day before the internet was even a blip in the public consciousness, when people would release production stills to magazines? That's pretty much all they're doing right now. They're trying to keep things as well-wrapped as possible! Just because you want more doesn't always mean you'll get it. They're trying not to give away too much, and in this day and age of constant information and spoilers, it's a wonder that nothing else has been given to us so far by unscrupulous employees and insiders. I'm very happy that they're not releasing so many images. The tease IS the hook, and so far, they've got you on the line and in the theater seats, as far as they're concerned. What I would love to do is remain unspoiled so that when I walk into the theater this summer, I'll see the vista and the spectacle that JJ Abrams wanted us all to see and be potentially awed at. But don't get frustrated because they're just giving you the little pink spoon and not the whole sundae.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 4:13:40 PM CST

    corridor design = FAIL.

    by alice 13

    try to open those middle compartment and reach in but you cant because your feet slide out back from under you when you reach.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 4:18:09 PM CST

    Boborci!!!

    by mr. nice gaius

    Hola. Are you ready for another TRANSFORMERS vs. AICN Talkback throwdown? I know I am.THE POWER OF BAY COMPELS YOU!

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  • Feb 27, 2009 4:18:59 PM CST

    24200124...The Tease is the Hook...that true enough..

    by conspiracy

    Look at the fools, myself included, who bit at the "Cloverfield" HOOK. What a complete snow job that was. The guys at ToHo are probably STILL laughing at that clusterfuck take on their more complete and sophisticated ideas.Is this all JJ can do; to recycle other peoples better ideas and turn them into simple minded fodder for people who have never read a book or know anything of quality other than base it on the amount of CGI present?

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  • is because there really isn't anything to reveal. This movie will just be a bland, pointless mess.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 4:24:41 PM CST

    Corridor design

    by skimn

    The same "hollow doughnut" look that Robert Wise introduced for Wildfire in The Andromeda Strain, carried over to ST:TMP, and continued since.And they say the camera adds ten pounds, but in the future, that ten pounds is all in your face. Hey Bana, its called Nutrisystem, check it out.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 4:29:16 PM CST

    That picture of Bana is a little silly.

    by dr sauch

    Reminds me of Coneheads, for some reason.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 4:56:27 PM CST

    Don't listen to Merrick, JJ.

    by movietool

    Releasing too much is not going to get more people to see the movie. Word of mouth will do that. You've released just enough to show that it's not your Dad's trek, but nothing that really spoils it.

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  • The effort and fun of it could have been finding a way to update the classic trek look. Instead, it's what everyone was expecting - a trip to the Apple store.

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  • That actually seems a bit of a smarter idea, to do the talking guy semi-transparently over the window. Otherwise the poor ensign is going to fly into the sun or something, and that'd end the movie real quick.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 5:31:20 PM CST

    Slow news day, huh guys?

    by soylentmean

    At least Massa's review of Street Fighter: The Legend of What the Fuck Ever was funny.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 5:42:07 PM CST

    The guys at ToHo....???

    by zardozap2005

    "STILL laughing at that clusterfuck take on their more complete and sophisticated ideas."

    Sophisticated?? Con, man have you even WATCHED any ToHo of late?
    Godzilla Final Wars has to be one of the biggest clusterfucks in the last ten years. It was a Godzilla movie without very much Godzilla. For that matter, while I enjoy a lot of Monster movies from ToHo, they are most certainly simple, and not sophisticated in the least. These films pander to the typical Japanese moviegoer, with dumbed down plots, and in several cases direct plot rip-offs from US films. Give me a goddamn break.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 6:23:43 PM CST

    They are not showing us too much...

    by bones

    ...because they have spent way too much money on this and are wondering how to make the money back.
    Everything I see reminds me of Lost in Space. Another film that decided to overdesign everything, to spend all their money on SFX rather than come up with a satisfactory story and actors.
    Y'all let me know how this one is before I think of spending money on it. I still want my money back from Cloverfield and Transformers.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 6:35:25 PM CST

    Lost in Space movie designs, yeah

    by jt kirk

    I see that. How sad. Coneheads too, these overblown movies with "unique" visions of set design that end up looking too slick and thoughtless. Sounds like the way this movie thinks of itself overall.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 7:05:30 PM CST

    Zardozap2005...so the Japanese are simpletons?

    by conspiracy

    Tell me that piece of shit was more fun, more complete, or more inventive that anything Toho put out in the 50s or 60s! How much is JJ paying you?I'll take a shoe string budgeted, GUY IN SUIT, atomically mutated lizard, alien invaders, or even singing 5" Twin fucking Japanese girls and a GIANT FUCKING MOTH over that poorly acted, shaky cammed, over hyped Abercrombie and Fitch commercial anyday. But if you Love JJs crap thats your choice...get in line..spend your $12...and when you feel ripped off don't say we didn't warn you.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 7:24:50 PM CST

    If the movie is anything like the recent Countdown comics

    by amy chasing

    then it should be fine. But I haven't liked any movie Abrams has done yet.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 7:45:37 PM CST

    viewscreen

    by redshirt

    It is obvious that the bridge viewscreen is 3D. In the next scene Kirk and Spock put on their red/green glasses in order to make it look like they can reach out and touch Bana.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 7:45:56 PM CST

    Cloverfield was good, this looks bad.

    by dr sauch

    Relax. Also, just because the actors in Cloverfield were attractive doesn't mean the movie was "an Abercrombie commercial." I actually prefer to look at attractive people, especially in dumb monster movies. Citizen Kane or TDK it wasn't, but there is a middle ground between artistic masterpiece and offensively bad, and there are a good number of movies therein. You fat fatties should really try to not see movies in black and white. Cloverfield was good. That said, this Star Trek movie is a sorry shadow of any TNG or Shatner-era movie.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 8:06:07 PM CST

    um no

    by yubnubrocks

    Actually, DON'T show tons of footage. Please for God's sake don't summarize the movie in a "trailer." The art of the trailer has been completely butchered. I remember seeing the trailer for The Empire Strikes Back way back in December of 1979 when my Dad took me to see 1941 (WAY underrated). You couldn't tell what the hell was going on - but you knew it was going to be good. Don't show me anything else.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 8:30:43 PM CST

    Then again, remember The Phantom Menace trailer...

    by amy chasing

    Looked amazing, didn't seem to give anything away... and it didn't. The movie was as thin and badly strung together as the trailer.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 8:33:41 PM CST

    Facial tatoos and balding always equals evil

    by ingeld

    Hmmm. If he only had a row of bumps down his head.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 8:51:36 PM CST

    TPM

    by yubnubrocks

    Very true and I agree - didn't show much but looked amazing. I guess I'm saying that the majority of trailers today say "too much" and I wish sometimes when I went to see a movie I could have my memory wiped so I knew nothing (new product? possible Facebook app???)

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  • Feb 27, 2009 8:52:24 PM CST

    Being an Abercrombie has nothing to do with looks

    by conspiracy

    But rather a display of stylistic vapidity...inane stunted dialog and "WOW" backgrounds over anything of substance. When all I see from a teaser is CGI masturbation...shadow shots of women undressing...and explosions. THAT is nothing but a commercial selling a shiny objects to retards.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 8:57:41 PM CST

    yubnubrocks...ESB trailer Looked good because..

    by conspiracy

    IT didn't NEED to sell anything..people were already sold!Star Wars had already established the characters, situation, the story and the quality. The ESB trailer gave away just enough for people to reconnect to the story from 3 years earlier...people I might add that had been SCREAMING for the next installment ever since they saw the first one. THIS situation is different...We've been burned by too many BAD Treks...they NEED to swell the STORY to get people interested...seeing as how they have NOT...we can only assume that there ISN'T much of a story and they have nothing but a set of spinning wheels to hawk on a far to easily amused populace. Not saying it won't make money...So did Beverly Hills Chihuahua...but it probably WILL suck for those of us who like some substance with our style.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 9:04:19 PM CST

    conspiracy

    by yubnubrocks

    good point - i'll agree to that. But I still feel that movie trailers (currently) give away too much info.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 9:08:20 PM CST

    Seriously, if you'd like your interest piqued in Star Trek again

    by amy chasing

    read the Countdown comics out now. Best stuff to come out of Trek since DS9.

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  • Feb 27, 2009 9:16:11 PM CST

    Good for Paramount and JJ....

    by j2talk

    Keep the mystery alive....Too many "leaks" will spoil the film..keeping the lid on things will make for a better film experience if we dont know every detail BEFORE the damn film comes out....

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  • Feb 27, 2009 10:11:56 PM CST

    just wait for the movie!

    by jacksonspole

    Jeez. What a whiner. Is it really so tough to just wait and see the movie when it comes out? The less I know about a movie the better. It's like you guys need to see the whole thing before it's time. Relax. It's better to be fresh and see things with an open mind...

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  • Feb 28, 2009 12:53:18 AM CST

    So this post obviously made J.J. Abrams' day.

    by nopix

    And I don't blame him. Everyone knows too much about a film prior to seeing it these days. I'm glad I haven't seen alot from Star Trek yet.

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  • Feb 28, 2009 2:14:58 AM CST

    Conspiracy...

    by tommyhawk

    "When all I see from a teaser is CGI masturbation...shadow shots of women undressing...and explosions."

    You obviously haven't seen too many other Trek trailers/commercials then.

    "THAT is nothing but a commercial selling a shiny objects to retards."

    Seems to worked since you are now obsessed with this film.

    "...they NEED to swell the STORY to get people interested..."

    They don't seeing as people are interested.

    "we can only assume that there ISN'T much of a story and they have nothing but a set of spinning wheels to hawk on a far to easily amused populace."

    'Conspiracy' is a name that fits you well.

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  • Feb 28, 2009 2:21:49 AM CST

    BoomerLips and others.

    by tommyhawk

    Boomerlips: That was only posted on TM.com on Feb 26. This was posted here on Feb 27, definitely not 3 days.

    dr sauch: "That said, this Star Trek movie is a sorry shadow of any TNG or Shatner-era movie."

    These comments always crack me up. It is sort of like how church ladies think Black Sabbath is all about satan. They know nothing about it, but just assume really dumb things.

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  • Feb 28, 2009 3:24:15 AM CST

    Whoopy friken DO!!!!

    by chadiwack

    gimme a break....how desperate do they think the fan boys are. oooohhhhh wow a teeny tiny piece of a frame of a picture from a moooovie.

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  • Feb 28, 2009 4:08:25 AM CST

    "Sulu kissing the bad guy"

    by jub3i

  • Feb 28, 2009 5:17:58 AM CST

    dr sauch

    by muki

    “You fat fatties should really try to not see movies in black and white” I know what you meant by this but taken the wrong way is actually one of the dumbest things ever said about film ;-)

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  • Feb 28, 2009 5:18:38 AM CST

    who is Kurt Lockwood

    by famouseccles

  • Feb 28, 2009 5:37:31 AM CST

    Lots of Dutch angles in that trailer.

    by dingbatty

    The design of the interior of the Enterprise will date, quickly. At least the Next Gen interior was cozy looking, though a bit late 80's, early 90's desktop computer beige-boxy in color scheme.

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  • Feb 28, 2009 6:52:53 AM CST

    JJ Abrams is infinitely more talented than you fucking idiots

    by bort cuse

    PLEASE remember that.

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  • Feb 28, 2009 9:07:24 AM CST

    The old "you have no talent so stfu"

    by larry sellers

    On a Talkback. Capital T.

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  • Feb 28, 2009 9:17:38 AM CST

    Not impressed

    by caerdwyn

    Waaaaay too high tech for something that should be "classic" Trek. Too shiny, too bright, and hardly functional. I hate to admit it, but the Enterprise series had a greater 'retro' feel than this does.

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  • Feb 28, 2009 9:44:35 AM CST

    Fire the marketing division

    by the starwolf

    And go talk to the people who have put together the amazing one for WATCHMEN.

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  • Feb 28, 2009 10:28:44 AM CST

    TommyHawk...Obsessed? Maybe.

    by conspiracy

    Obsessed with warning people away from more JJ/Orci/Kurtzman shit...absolutely! Who is the bigger retard; the guy who based on the people involved, their track record and the silly clips released points out that it looks like shit...or the guy who staunchly defends it based upon said CGI wankfest trailers? Now..if your idea of a good film IS CGI spoogery, sexual innuendo, and cliched plot points...then this might just be the film for you. As I said...Beverly Hills Chihuahua made quite a bit of money...so did Transformers and Fast and Furious...there are plenty of Natty Ice drinkers, 2.0 GPA high school students and trailer park dwellers to support these kinda of "film"...but I ain't one of them...I want some quality and substance with my "popcorn" films.

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  • Feb 28, 2009 11:06:05 AM CST

    Set design & viewscreen...quit yer bitchin'...

    by captainbass

    I know that the new Enterprise interiors aren't like TOS but there's no way that this movie would grab the new audience it's aiming for if the sets were exactly like the 60's versions, which look ridiculously dated & campy now. It's supposed to be the future, so what makes you think the designers would want to completely emulate the 60's? From a design perspective it's what is considered 'futuristic' just now, just as TOS sets were back then. The uniforms might be good emulations of TOS outfits but to those complaining of the lack of functionality in the sets couldn't you say the same for the uniforms? I doubt that even in a near-utopian future that gaudy coloured uniforms will be the norm for the military. As for the viewscreen, given that Nero has come from the future he would have more advanced communications technology that may not be fully compatible with ye olde NCC-1701's 'rabbit-ears' comms... =P Anyway, I'm glad JJ isn't giving us too much and I'm quite looking forward to it. It's second behind "Watchmen" in my anticipation hotlist!

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  • Feb 28, 2009 11:25:32 AM CST

    Master & Commander

    by saintaugust

    Yeah guy who got a headache...why don't they just adapt Master and Commander into a new Star Trek movie. How cool would it be to see the Enterprise get crippled in the first 10 minutes of the movie? Just split Dr. Maturin's scenes between McCoy and Spock and change all the proper nouns in the screenplay to something Trek appropriate - you'll have the best Trek since Undiscovered Country.

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  • Feb 28, 2009 12:27:48 PM CST

    my psychic betazoid powers....

    by haterofcrap

    ...tell me this movie will suck.

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  • Feb 28, 2009 1:58:14 PM CST

    The APPLE-prise

    by pizza the hut

    There's gotta be a cross-promotion with Apple Computers somewhere in the film.

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  • Feb 28, 2009 3:33:18 PM CST

    SPOILER: Kirk and Spock go on the Enterprise!

    by mrmysteryguest

  • Feb 28, 2009 3:34:32 PM CST

    Will they show the Cloverfield monster attacking the ship?

    by mrmysteryguest

    'Cause I wanna see that!

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  • Feb 28, 2009 3:36:12 PM CST

    The Enterprise needs to switch to digital TV!!

    by mrmysteryguest

    Don't they have the converter box? They should have bought it with that government coupon!

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  • Feb 28, 2009 3:50:38 PM CST

    Not true

    by krisroesgiantforehead

    I wish you on me, to you hear small sons - - of branches. They do not know star trek, \oKay? I know star traek and - csie don' t knows SHIT because you' entire life was not spent with teh orgnial show okay.? Star trek is rail for ME and MY people, not you red nekced, the captain Picard' iVE known my of this is the best cinema, the Steven Spielberg, it always out since at that time AND UPWARD let OVER the SUBSTANCE IT in such a way DETAILS, DON' LT UNDERSTANDS? good u retards

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  • Feb 28, 2009 4:06:33 PM CST

    Everyone here will see this movie...

    by armando

    On a side note: The New street fighter movie was great! Nash Out!

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  • Feb 28, 2009 4:35:12 PM CST

    KrisRoesGiantForehead

    by iamjack'suserid

    Please repeat in coherent fashion. My hangover isn't strong enough to make your post make sense.

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  • Feb 28, 2009 4:50:36 PM CST

    Conspiracy

    by tommyhawk

    "Who is the bigger retard; the guy who based on the people involved, their track record and the silly clips released points out that it looks like shit.."

    Ding ding, or to translate for you, "Ding fries are done."

    "Now..if your idea of a good film IS CGI spoogery, sexual innuendo, and cliched plot points..."

    Then I'll watch a TOS Remastered episode.

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  • Feb 28, 2009 8:11:55 PM CST

    Merrick.....are you a retard?

    by mr sulu

    why the fuck would you want to know loads about it before you actually see the damn thing?! jesus...just be patient and WAIT!! then watching the movie without knowing too much will be all the more enjoyable...

    seriously dud are you like 6? i shouldnt even have to spell it out for you...

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  • Feb 28, 2009 9:15:56 PM CST

    duh d-duh d-duh!

    by starblitzer

    Hey, it's FUCKIN' DISTRACTING!

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  • Feb 28, 2009 9:37:20 PM CST

    it boggles my mind

    by bendersshinyass

    That people can dish out shit on trek's ships designs yet the military acievement award scene in iron man goes unchallenged. seriously, how gay were those glitter drapes?

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  • Feb 28, 2009 9:51:47 PM CST

    The hallways need to be round

    by georgieboy

    Because of the fat rolly pollys tumbling through there.

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  • Feb 28, 2009 10:03:39 PM CST

    Reminds me of the Lost in Space movie

    by georgieboy

    This is the movie of Star Trek they would have made today if the original 6 weren't created. Some kind of superglossed over-produced non-sense.

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  • Mar 01, 2009 2:28:41 AM CST

    ^^^

    by tommyhawk

    Vs. The original series and movies which were underproduced non sense?

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  • Mar 01, 2009 5:58:32 AM CST

    re: Everyone here will see this movie...

    by muki

    Yes but hardly anyone will pay for it - bit torrent is great ;-)

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  • Mar 01, 2009 3:22:53 PM CST

    Muki, shut up. Merrik, you are an idiot. Bob Orci, can I get a

    by bass bastardson

    That is all.

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  • Mar 01, 2009 3:24:05 PM CST

    ...meeting?

    by bass bastardson

    Fucking comments. Update your code already Harry.

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  • Mar 01, 2009 4:15:34 PM CST

    Help for article

    by xoanontorn

    Hi all,

    Long story short, I offered to fact check an article for Popular Science magazine, the topic is Star Trek. However at the time I didn't know it was about the NEW movie..and since I was trying to remain spoiler free...I don't know the plot (or what is known of it). Can someone drop me a line and I can send you the synopsis from the article to verify? I am not getting paid, and neither will you, this is basically a 'yes this is the plot' confirm type thing.. anyone interested?

    Please email me at xoanon AT theonering DOT net...thanks!!!

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  • Mar 01, 2009 5:48:49 PM CST

    Star Trek the dead pile of shit

    by mr. charmand grimloch

    will, under no circumstances be resurrected in the quality of days past with this obviously "made for twenty-somethings" rancid turd. I can appreciate the desire on the part of those who would defend anything bearing the label, while certainly not agreeing with the habit, but surely this has grown way beyond the days when Berman and Braga controlled (and helped ruin) Roddenberry's original concept. Granted, Roddenberry himself had a hand in the alterations that Trek grew from with the often dull and politcally correct narrative that spun so many TNG stories into the ground. But, even with the shortcomings of that particular series, there was still enough quality to give it an identity all its own, and for many hours of excellence to shine forth. The debate over what went on with the next 3 series are best left to a talkback specifically related to such a topic. This item, however, that bears Abrams name, appears on the immediate surface to bear no fruit at all resembling the qualities of the original which it, supposedly, is intending to respect. How anyone under the age of 40 can look at these images, and that wretched trailer, and speak with optimism about this project is beyond me. As a previous talkbacker commented, the shadow shots of women undressing, coupled with high tech explosions, gives this movie a look of insipid stupidity that will no doubt appeal to some people merely looking to kill two hours. I honestly cannot believe I am saying this, but the days of Berman's brand of Dull Trek are actually starting to look better and better.

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  • Mar 02, 2009 11:14:51 AM CST

    What this film needs is a CGI Roy Schneider....

    by ig76

    My CGI Team....gotta eat

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  • Mar 02, 2009 3:28:40 PM CST

    Bass Bastardson, quit your crying

    by muki

    you little bitch

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