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AICN premieres 1 of 3 International 1-sheets for INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS!
Hey folks, Harry here... Today - there's 3 International One-Sheets debuting across the world that are for INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS, that film that I told you about recently and that has had its first teaser trailer debut every which way. Other than the one below, so far - I only know of this one over at IGN. If you find the third one, be sure to send the link over and we'll update this story with it! Here ya go - click it to make enormous!

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a baseball bat.
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to me.
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adooo!
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This is a bad poster. NexxxxT!
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nothing else mattersAnd QT, that self-loving jerkmaster, can fuck off. Seriously, after those borefests, who cares about QT any more? He's a lousy, uninspired one-trick pony.
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What is Tarantino's one and only trick? Thrill me with your analysis
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FLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR
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That trailer was horrible.
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Stop looking for attention! I'm sure your mummy will cuddle you if you ask nicely...
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the ones where you wonder if you might actually have to get some TP for a trenchrun.
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Might as well also added in there "The Good, the Bad, the Basterds" for subtle movie references.
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IBINO
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Go fuck yourselves, haters! Not saying this will be good, but after the four awesome films Tarantino has given us why don't we give him a chance.
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...but the BEST %$#@#$ trick EVER moron. And, by the way, I don't want my eyeballs fucked ONCE EVERY 10 YEARS. He fucked my eyeballs with Titanic...and it took a full year to recover and get that SONG out of my head. I almost filed a lawsuit.
And P.S. Motoko...$250,000,000 was spent by boyfriends who felt it was their DUTY to go. Never felt like a QT movie was a part of being a dutiful boyfriend...so suck it bitches!! -
I get it. Tarantino likes crappy grindhouse movies. Yeah, yeah. So he makes yet another movie ripped off from several he likes that pretends to be a crappy B-movie... Except, he might just be making crap. Just because Tarantino writes something doesn't mean it is therefor "Tarantinoesque" and thus the work of a man-god. Case in point: the worthless dialog in Deathproof between the female characters. Has he grown as an artist? Not since Jackie Brown, no. Is stagnation the death of an artist? You better fucking believe it. Having spent so many years working on this script he could have given us a great WWII film. Instead, it looks very much like he chose to repeat himself and wallow in stagnation. Lazy, lazy, lazy.
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http://tinyurl.com/d99yjp
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I am a big tarantino fan and I will see this movie regardless of how it is advertised, but it's still nice to see some promotional material that isn't accompanied by a terrible soundtrack. The "modern music in a period film" thing can work, but shitty music is shitty music in any time period. I really hope that's not in the actual movie.
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You said he has yet to make a bad film and then you say he's given us four awesome films. Well, which two movies do you think weren't so awesome. Let me guess. Deathproof and Kill Bill 2. That sounds like a streak of suckiness that looks to have company come this summer.
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But a self indulgent pony? Maybe.
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allow me to explain:Once upon a time, there was a great writer named QT who smashed Sundance in early 1992 with a little movie that even at that early stage showed the weakness in the oncoming works: it ripped off others (The Taking of Pelham 123, a hong kong movie whose title I forgot right now and others). In 1994 he came to even more fame with the funny and entertaining "Pulp Fiction" which until today is the reason why he has so much followers. But since then he keeps repeating the same formula over and over and over again:His one and only "trick" is to make exploitation movies, to rip off and quote other flicks and then add some blood and overlong dialogue scenes. Where's the originality? Why does he think he's a demi-god?Nonetheless, some flicks are entertaining to some degree like "Death Proof" while others fall apart like the horribly lame "Kill Bill" flicks.
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actually looks bloody good!
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for a weird phenomenon surrounding the QT hype: he said that QT made "four awesome films". Some people seem to count "From Dusk Till Dawn" to his oeuvre, though Mr. Rodriguez directed that flick. Let's see what QT really made thus far:1992 Reservoir Dogs (okay)1994 Pulp Fiction (good fun)1995 Four Rooms / one segment (lame)1997 Jackie Brown (horribly boring and uninspired)2003 Kill Bill Vol. 1 (totally lame and an insult for every hong kong movie lover)2004 Kill Bill Vol. 2 (forgettable)2007 Death Proof (fun to some degree, but also heavily flawed)Well, I count seven movies. And more misses than hits.
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as righteous brother has said, they look cheap. what with these posters and the music to the trailer, you can tell the studio have their hands all over the marketing of the film and are not taking any deathproof like chances
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Downhill ever since. Death Proof? Anyone could have made that. He needs to stop hanging out with Eli Roth and Rodriguez and get back to making proper films again.
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Empire seem to have the "Exclusive" of all 3 posters.
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CITY ON FIRE was the movie he ripped off almost scene-by-scene for RESERVOIR DOGS.
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if anyone is interested there's a director and visual effects guy interview at http://www.boingboing.net/boing-boing-video/
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When you are attempting to prove your point, it's a good idea to proof read your shit. "In 1994 he came to even more fame with the funny and entertaining "Pulp Fiction" which until today is the reason why he has so much followers." I think you were looking to say "so MANY followers" but got the English wrong. I agree about Tarantino to a point, but be sure to proof read before you fire your volley against HG. Granted, he's not perfect either, "but what do I know...I bite the heads off fish."
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I'm surrounded by idiots. Let's see... for starters, Four Rooms was only a segment. Kill Bill, was ONE FUCKING MOVIE! Death Proof was a short film, which was part of Grindhouse. So... Yeah... That's four complete films. You call yourselves film lovers? You people make me sick.
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Now there's a REAL movie for you! Michael Bay is AWESOME! Fuck that Tarantino guy!
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To be classified as a "short film", isn't the ceiling for total runtime 59 mins? Whereas Death Proof is about 114 min. Yes, it was one-half of a two part film, essentially, but not falling into the "short" category. With that said, I'm jumping on the "Shit on QT bandwagon" just because he has a lot of room to improve since he used to be entertaining. I say prove me wrong QT, but in the mean time, I will be holding my 10 bucks for Sly's kick ass opus that will earn the right to be called "BAD ASS".
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That's why they were called 1 & 2 and were released separately. Is Lord of the Rings one movie or three? How about the Star Wars saga or the Godfather films or the continuing storyline of Star Trek 2,3 & 4?Death Proof was a short? Are you high? Why do you think they called Grind House a DOUBLE FEATURE? It's because there were TWO feature length films screened together. Convenient that you decided to declare that Tarantino's worst movie was just a short and doesn't really count when assessing his track record.
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He's not developing, he's stagnating. Nothing about the IB teaser excited me, but The Expendables has me shitting in my shorts and I haven't seen even one second of it.
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What is the meaning of "exclusive" actually??
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Now that's weird turn lol
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maybe its because he overanalyses other films then puts bits and pieces into his films and we as some sort of subliminal tribute to him overanalyse his filmmaking and put it into our coversations.
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I'm so THERE. When is Terminator: Salvation coming out? McG is a VISIONARY!
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Directed by Brett Ratner. Oh, boy! That'll be SWEET!
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HHHAAAAAAA HHHHAAAAA HHHAAAAAAAAA HHHHAAAAAAA HHAAAAAAAAAAA you sure are spouting some funny shit what the fuck are you talking about you don't make a shred of sense. Have you even watched any Tarantino films. A bit of story line and a gun scene doesn't make dogs a rip off. HAAAAAAAA HHHHHAAAAAA HHHHHAAAAAAAAA HHAAAAAAAA that the fucking funniest thing i've ever heard HAAAAAA HHHAAAAAAA HHHHHAAAAA can't stop laughing HHHAAAAA HHAAAAAAA HHAHHAAAAAAA thanks a lot you made my day with that funny uninitiated shit.
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you lost me around when Kill Bill was boring and Death Proof was entertaining...
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He loves Women Who Act Like Men, but in his films he always punishes the girly-girls, the soft, feminine, desirable ones. Uma Thurman is a soft, feminine, desirable woman ... got her heart punctured in "Pulp Fiction", and was tortured endlessly in "Kill Bill". Sure, she got to kick ass as well, but it was the torture Tarantino was into. Then there's Bridget Fonda in "Jackie Brown", fucked and then murdered for no real purpose that I could understand. Then there were all the girly chatterers in Death Proof part one, who died horribly, while the cartoon loud-mouthed swaggering bitches in part 2 get their fantasy victory over the killer, while leaving their girl-girl cheerleader friend to be possibly raped by a redneck, ha ha ha! What is it about Tarantino that geeks love? His semi-autistic regurgitation of bits and pieces of films he likes, or his geeky hatred of women way out of his league? I say both, but only you can decide if it applies to you.
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Seems to lack a bit of the iconic charm that the posters for Reservoir Dogs, Kill Bill and Death Proof. Would have liked a Dirty Dozen style poster.
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...there's a couple of tricks within him.
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Is copying everyone's elses tricks, then turning in a strange lifeless cartoon of a movie so every pretentious prick film critic that watches it and feels clever because they know all the references can slap him on the back for. BRAVO QT, BRAVO.
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I think you hit the nail right on the head.
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Bad one sheet, bad.
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My feelings about QT are that, yeah, he's heavily inspired by other films but then again that's not a crime - if someone is inspired and then goes on to make blindingly good films then that doesn't detract from their talent.However, I believe that perhaps he has been adulated for so long that he is going through that phase that Stephen King went through when he fired his long term editor and his books became bloated and messy - he is believing the hype too much. I thought that Kill Bill, and no matter how it was released it was written as one movie, was bloated and self indulgent to an extreme level. The story that he was trying to tell became swamped with the indulgences of his own quirks and ideas - the idea of watching it as one film horrifies me because it would be like sitting next to someone who was cool and funny but a bit one note for a long plane journey. The charm would be lost.Death Proof was short and okay but to be honest the whole Grindhouse concept worked better for me as a concept - it was a bit like watching Amazon Women on the Moon and seeing that one of the sketches had been expanded to a full movie. A fairly brave experiment but not one that, to my mind particularly worked.Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction however were both fantastic movies - wonderful pieces of work - Jackie Brown, I think suffered because it was a bit too linear and for me it would have been a better film if the structure had been fractured as in his previous films. However that's just personal taste.He is a very talented writer and a very talented editor - he's a pretty good director and he's a fucking diabolically bad actor.I'm just glad that Inglourius Basterds is one movie (and not another two part monstrosity as was once suggested) and I'm glad that he's doing something set away from his crime and Eastern cinema quirks
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Ripping off moments from old cult B movies and reassembling them into one movie. He does it well though. Posters look like comic book covers. Cute though, obviously teaser posters, not THE poster. The only thing is the awful "THE NEW FILM BY QUENTIN TARANTINO" tag. It worked and was kind of cool in the first Kill Bill trailer. But since the artistic dissapointment of those two flicks followed by the complete disaster of Grindhouse, he maybe should have just left that off. Or put "A FILM". It just seems like a douchebag thing to put on the poster, even if its completely factual.
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Quentin Tarantino has at least three tricks:1 - Using a Prick Stick to cut and paste bits from other people's films.2 - Writing very entertaining dialogue (most of the time).3 - Finding great uses for forgotten pop gems.If you're being fair, you have to admit Tarantino is pretty good at those three things. Trouble is, those three things are getting old and tired, and it becomes more apparent with each successive film that he doesn't actually have much to say.Who knows, though. Maybe this Basterds is where he turns it around, stops the magpie act, creates some substantial characters, and shows some actual insight. It's possible.
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...Kill Bill SHOULD have been one movie. It was two. Unless you have trouble counting. Although the fucking numeral TWO in the title should have been of great help to you.
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I like Tarantino but even his most ardent defender must concede he's been on a downward spiral of late.
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I'm not going to call Tarantino complete shit, because I think that wouldn't be fair. That being said, the guy gets way too much praise and way too much hype (although not everywhere, but certainly here at AICN). He's a competent filmmaker who makes films he enjoys. Nothing wrong with that. But people need to get over themselves and stop thinking he's some sort of messiah or cinematic genius. That, and they need to better expose themselves to cinema.
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Why hate someone who actually seemed like a real human being? Why not reserve your hate for that stunt-girl chick who couldn't act for shit, but was given a prominent role anyway?
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Not enough rain....
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Feb 20, 2009 6:20:27 AM CST
I've never seen a more wretched hive of scum and villany...
by champvinyl
HAHAH Lookie i made a reference too!
Now how about all of you retarded, basement dwelling neckbeard fucktards go back to jerking off at hentai and furry pr0n and shut your fucking doughnut holes.
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...which is why watching his movies now are so painful. It is watching such great talent go to waste in my opinion. I thought with Jackie Brown that he was going to go become a more mature director, but instead I find out he is the cinematic equivalent of a guy who thinks making fart noises with his arm pit is the epitome of clever. He might be great and think of ingenious ways to make fart noises, but they are still just fart noises.
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And it involves a Guess Who like Card Game and King Kong. Player has too guess who they are- cards tapped on their own head so everyone else knows who they are, while they do not. Others feed out clues.
Will never forget the Gasps when I wacthed Pulp Fiction in the theaters when QT went on that Dead N Word Garage bit. He's th eonly white director to get away it as much as he does. Eminem wont even say the Nword in a rap.. QT loves to shock and offend, and I'm cool with that. I like to see other squirm and go nuts.. -
...I think this write up sums it up pretty well (and no I didn't pick it because it slams Harry).
http://tinyurl.com/da9oyj
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I never thought of it that way, but you definitely have a point about his double standard when it comes to female characters. (I'm pretty sure Fonda's character wasn't killed in the original Leonard novel, and even if she was, it wasn't in such a degrading manner. Could be wrong, though). But I think it's a general misanthropy and love of sadism, at least by the looks of the new script. What bugs me is that it's righteous sadism - it doesn't matter if these guys die violently because they're just Nazis, right?
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... seriously?
"I thought with Jackie Brown that he was going to go become a more mature director, but instead I find out he is the cinematic equivalent of a guy who thinks making fart noises with his arm pit is the epitome of clever."
hahahahahahAAAAA!!! ... wow you're a douche. Go watch benjamin button and the reader and shut the fuck up. seriously. nobody cares. go suck dick with richard "the dick" roeper. -
"Eminem wont even say the Nword in a rap." Yeah... I wouldn't say that is something in Tarantino's favour. A white guy using the N Word is just plain offensive. :"QT loves to shock and offend" Well, so did GG Allin, and I don't see a lot of people hailing him as a genius.
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On the international poster for Death Proof it says "The 5th film by Quentin Tarantino" and Kill Bill is only one movie - on its poster it says "The 4th film by Quentin Tarantino".
I don't know about you people but when I watch a Tarantino movie I think "man I really enjoyed that" and thats why I like his movies. Ask yourself people. How many movies do you see and without having to form an opinion or even think about it the movie has just been an enjoyable experience to watch? -
Thanks. You just proved my point better than I ever could. You are obviously his target audience.
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I have as much interest in anything from that PoS as in the zits on Hermann Goering's ass, but I do know that Tarantino can only steal, not create - and so I wonder what he stole this time.
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That is a fair question, and the problem is that I might see to many movies. Because of that I have a very high standard of what I want out of a movie. You also probably see a lot of movies, and because of your experiences you have a completely different view point and subjective experience. I am not going to judge what you like, I can only talk about what I like. And from my perspective, QT’s films just s juvenile to me. I can’t help it, I am an active film-goer, not passive one; when I watch a film I can’t just sit there and enjoy the bright lights, big stars and explosions, I have to analyze it and think about it as it goes along. Otherwise I wouldn’t be here.
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I looked forward to Death Proof with a certain amount of anticipation, right up until the characters opened their mouths. There was absolutely NOTHING enjoyable about that movie.
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Good call on the "NEW FILM BY QUENTIN TARANTINO." That belies the whole idea that this is "really" just a grindhouse movie. Tarantino wants it both ways: he wants to make sick exploitation movies and have people accept them as "cinema." I ain't buying it anymore.
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Kill Bill was average, Death Proof, aside from the man-god Kurt Russell, WAS THE WORST MOVIE I HAVE EVER SEEN. Sorry for the caps lock, it has a mind of its own.
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The trailer and this poster and the basic concept do nothing for me, but I feel like it could still turn out watchable and at the end of the day I like QT so I'll see it.
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against QT here. Totally love Dogs and Pulp Fiction but diminishing returns ever since, I partially enjoyed Kill Bill 1 but really can't say I have enjoyed anything else. Maybe it is because I get caught up in all the hype and have higher expectations than I may have for a movie otherwise.
Anyway, will probably go see this but I am many many times more stoked for the Expendables. Dunno maybe it is just a sign of the grim times that we are in just now that I really just want to go to the cinema and have fun and QT's more recent efforts have't felt fun to me. -
sorry should have read "groundswell" eating and typing - bad combo
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The problem with your post is that the film is aimed solely at retarded, basement dwelling, neckbearded fanboys such as yourself.
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Looking forward to this one.
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Yeah, he ripped off some shots straight up, and the plot is close to Reservoir Dogs, but if you ask me he improves the stuff he rips off, because City on Fire is boring as all get-up. And it's a Hong Kong flick! You'd expect more action, but no. It's a snooze fest, and it's definitely no Reservoir Dogs. I think all this criticism comes from envy. Here's a film geek who actually wrote a script and got a hell of a movie made. The rest of you are wondering "why not me"? Because you're spending too much time here bitching about who's more original than who instead of getting to work on your own script. Suck it haters.
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The "all this criticism comes from envy" argument only goes so far. I should envy Peter Jackson or Edgar Wright, because their inspirations are very similar to mine, but instead I bow to them as kindred spirits. Tarantino, otoh, has squandered the promise he had. The problem with your argument is that when Reservoir Dogs came out, most of us were in Tarantino's corner. It's the broken promise, not envy.
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I admit I haven't seen the whole thing, but the "Who You Think You're Fooling" short made its point, and it's part of a pattern. People marvelled at how Tarantino had the audacity to "rewrite the Bible" in Pulp Fiction, but it turns out Jules' speech is virtually word for word from a long-forgotten martial arts movie. The point is that many of the very things that people hail Tarantino for are the things that he's ripped off.
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We need more kick-ass Muslims like that. ^_^
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And you're gonna fuck it up by posting another fucking script girl piece tomorrow.
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One look at the nerd that Tarantino truly is and everyone wonders "why is this guy getting so much praise, he's such a geek!" And then comes "why can't that be me?" The point is that in this world we have our Bret Ratners and then we have Tarantino. I'll take the rip-off artist who assumes his audience can sit through long dialog scenes over the hack that makes cookie cutter movies because he assumes that anyone who pays to go to the movies must be an idiot.
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Feb 20, 2009 8:41:04 AM CST
Motoko Kusanagi, I don't think you've made a good case at all.
by dr sauch
Your analysis is totally subjective. Jackie Brown is, to many, a great movie. It shows that QT need not be bombastic to make a great movie. I'm not going to argue with you that he certainly steals from a lot of stuff. What he does though, is to make it his own. He takes something from here, something from there, and then puts a little of himself into it, and you have these movies. When you say "one trick horse," if you mean that he has a signature style, then yes, he is "one trick." It's all a matter if phrasing. If you don't like QT, thats fine, but you sound like an idiot trying to "prove" that he's an objectively bad director.
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The QT bashing simply astounds me. You're all going to line up like lemmings on cliff edge for the giant dumbassed puke fest that is Watchmen and you have the BALLS to come in here and trash Tarantino? Come here and get the paddle you little snot faced fucks.
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Can't wait to see the other two.
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QT never made proper films. He speaks the language of filmmakers past, he has no real voice of his own. I think Pulp Fiction is his most original film to date. He quite frankly bores me. If he could spend some of his energy making a film of his own voice, no remakes or rehasing, or retelling, then maybe he'd have my attention.
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stems from disappointment.His three films from the 90's were all at least very good, at best great and truly iconic. However his work since then has generally been self-indulgent bollocks. "Kill Bill" whilst not outright awful, was a massive let down. A bloated silly mess, without a single believable character. "Death Proof" was pure shite, one of the worst films I've seen in recent years. I tried to watch it again recently, but after a few minutes of endless shots of womens feet, and women speaking like Tarantino(not you know, like actual real women), I turned it off.As for the "rip-off" stuff, I've never cared about that, a good film is a good film, I don't give a shit what he takes from. And the fact is 99.9% of the people who call him a "plagiarist" wouldn't even know he was one if they hadn't have heard it elsewhere.Anyway, I hope IG turns out to be great, why wouldn't I? But I just don't have any faith in QT anymore, which is disappointing...
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This movie doesn't have a 61-year-old man for me to jerk off to in the theater! Whatever will I do?Seriously, just kill yourselves now and spare yourself any future embarrassment. Man up and do the job your parents wanted to do so badly in the hospital 12 years ago.
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Why is "Bastards" spelled "Basterds"? And why the weird european spelling of "Inglorious"?
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Sorry, there are shitloads of serious film thinkers out there (Dave Kehr, AO Scott, Andrew O'Hehir) who think Death Proof is great. I'm one of them. It has a unique bi-part structure, rather than the standard three-act one. Original. Tarantino's mistake was expecting American audiences, anesthetized by videogame/comic book/CGI-loaded trifles, could stomach extended sequences where nothing happens. In older, foreign and art films, there's a lot of that. Sometimes movies require patience.
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Sorry, but the only opinion I value is my own. I'm not American, I haven't read a comic book since I was kid, and I hate "CGI-loaded trifles". My favourite film is nearly four hours long and is very slow paced.You shouldn't try to stereotype individuals due a differing opinion on one film, it simply makes you look a fool.
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and you know it. I'll admit that there has always been a bit of "why him" in criticism of Tarantino, but in my case it's not "why him and not me" but "why him and not Scorsese, P.T. Anderson, the Coens, etc." P.T. Anderson is a good example. He started out doing something similar to Tarantino but he's evolved beyond that. And yet because Tarantino is the loudest and most obnoxious of them all, people fricking worship him.
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Bull. In those "older and foreign movies" they talk about interesting stuff, not nonsense about movies that weren't even released when the characters were born.
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The misspelling is bcause Tarantino is an illiterate cocaine vacuum with no respect for anybody but himself. He freely admits that the bulk of his education came from watching bad TV and films... Not from reading books. This makes him a little defensive and reactionary at times. After initially misspelling the title out of ignorance, instead of accepting the advice of actual literate people and fixing his mistake he suddenly decided that the misspelling was some kind of 'statement.' The only statement he's making is that he's willfully ignorant. Either that or he's falling into the typical Hollywood elitist group-think that all soldiers are illiterate, trigger-pumping morons.
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As a Jew and a retired military man, I'm offended on both counts. Literracy within the US military was compulsory during WWII; illiterate soldiers were taught to read during basic training. And the literacy/eductaional level of Jewish soldiers has traditionally been higher than that of Gentiles.
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Or perhaps the misspelling is due to the fact that a huge chunk of the media would not advertise a film with the word "Bastards" in the title...
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You're kidding, right? One letter is NOT going to sway anybody in small-town America. Trust me, I live in Abilene, Texas--- the Diamond Setting in the Gold Buckle of the Bible Belt. And they advertise HELLBOY here... So the fig-leaf misspelling idea just doesn't hold water to me.
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How does that explain away 'INGLOURIOUS?'
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And I am right.
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True, sometimes movies do require patience. However, there was just nothing there with Death Proof except for self indulgence. Maybe that's why some find it so interesting, but to me it was an extended navel-gazing experiment and nothing more. Jackie Brown remains the pinnacle of Tarantino's works.
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Care to give me a cite or quote an article, or do I just have to accept your gratuitous assertion? Besides, how do you then explain away Inglourious?
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He's far from great but certainly not the hack some portray him as.
Great artists (in any genre) are utilizing all which came before them...some are just less obvious. Frank Zappa draws from Stravinsky and Varez...not too obvious. Led Zeppelin drew blatantly from Robert Johnson and Howlin' Wolf... pretty obvious.
QT wears his influences on his sleeve. Think Andy Warhol who combines a number of common place, pop culture things to attempt to make something "new". But nothing is truly "new" especially nowadays. Hip hop artists (who are not musicians)sample old mowtown beats and R&B horns to create new MTV fodder.
Although this can be done well I can see how it also comes off as shallow and almost novel. I love Resevoir and Pulp but everything else leaves me flat...don't even care about the Grindhouse shit.
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Look, I'm also one of those people that thinks Jackie Brown is his best directed film (even though I still feel the best thing he wrote is True Romance), but it's obvious that it's an anomoly in his output. Tarantino has taken the pop culture post modernist bent that was more in the background of his pre Kill Bill films and made them the focus of his films. From my standpoint I'm not a fan of this, but it's what he has become. If we want serious/less in your face post modernism cinema, we have to turn to directors like PT Anderson and David Fincher. As far as Death Proof goes I don't quite think it's as bad as I thought it was when I saw Grindhouse after recently watching the Death Proof DVD. As a standalone film it's decent enough, but it didn't work as part of Grindhouse. Grindhouse should've been Planet Terror and possibly Machete or Thanksgiving.
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But maybe he's too afraid of repeating himself, but really, crime cinema is his forte.
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That was a pretty good Tarantino trick
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http://www.cinematical.com/photos/inglourious-basterds-1/1374188/
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hit the nail on the head.I loved QT when I first saw Pulp Fiction years ago, but after seeing him repeat his pop culture crap in other movies I got real tired of it. Have we ever seen such an ego in movies? "The 4th Film By Quentin Tarantino!" Seriously, sir.In the novel "Coldheart Canyon," Clive Barker spoke of a director character named Quincy Marinaro (or something along those lines) who made a couple of films, was praised by the film community and geeks, and then became a complete ass. Think he was talking about Spielberg?
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if Eli Roth can do it, it's not a pretty good trick. Chimps could do it. (oh shit...did I just piss off Al Sharpton? It wasn't racist!! I was talking about stupidity and comparing idiots to chimps!! AAAAAHHHHHH!)
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I am by no means a Tarantino hater. I have everything he's ever done, and re-watch several of his films regularly (especially Pulp Fiction and Jackie Brown). I'm just very white-glove on some subjects, and the portrayal of the military is one of them. This thing truly rankles me; I ama survivor of the 1970s 'Vietnam Vet As Crazed Villain Of The Week' and tought Tarantino was better than this. This was not an intentional style choice. Remember the original leaked-script review? Only 'bastards' was misspelled, and it was misspelled throughout the script. QT caught some ribbing for it, but like a petulant child he refused to admit the mistake. Instead, in a desperate attempt to cover his ass he decided to misspell BOTH words and blame it on those illiterate, ignorant soldiers.
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Personally, the reason I bag on QT lately is because for a decade he touted INGLORIOUS BASTARDS as the next all-star DIRTY DOZEN with every movie tough guy and action hero he could scrounge up. This was supposed to be the Arnie/Bruce/Sly union of legend. Then he kept the title but did something totally different and cast guys like Mike Meyers and Eli Roth as his tough guys. It's about building up expectations and then throwing them out the window.
I generally like QT films, but I thought that DEATH PROOF was pretty lame. I hope he gets back on track, but shifting from a killer premise (all-star action film) to something a lot less convincing on its face (Jewish unit in WWII) was a big misstep. It could be a great film, but it's not what got us all excited in the first place. -
Ragged on Michael Mann's Miami Vice, and then gave us Death Proof.
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Check it out for a good laugh, or a coronary.
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I can tell by your name you're interested in "interesting stuff". But I wasn't talking about what people in older or art films talk about, I was saying there are long periods where nothing happens in them; they produce periods where the audience might be thinking or reflecting rather than just listening/watching.
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Bloody Affair DVD coming out?
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Every film this moron has done after Pulp Fiction has sucked and the main reason is that he can't write a character you can actually feel for, they are all cartoons. Just because they talk about shit you think is cool in a pop culture nichey way does not mean they are interesting characters. He does some nice things with auiences' expectations but he is a poor writer because he cannot write a good character with a motivation that has depth and humanity. And this has been true since Pulp. Believe me, critics and fans who 'love' his last three, four films have lost perspective in the hype. He does collages and then turns them into cartoons. That's it. He is not on the path to becoming a great filmmaker like other living filmmakers who started off with an original voice but matured into great storytellers like the Coen Bros or Beat Takeshi or Croenenberg. Not by a long shot. QT is getting worse, believe me.
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Whoever brought up Brian DePalma in the last QT talkback hit the nail on the head. Talented director with a fondness for trash. Head disappears up own ass after initial success. Lots of coke enjoyed. Rest of career is endlessly self-derivative. Early potential goes unrealized.
FWIW, I'm in the "QT peaked with Jackie Brown" camp. RD and PF are both undeniably great, but they're also kinda played out, while JB remains consistently interesting to me. Perhaps Tarantino should adapt someone else's work again to get his mind right.
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Thank God for the Nazis. They have given the world the one villain that is universally loathed enough that they can be dispached this way. EVERYONE ON EARTH loves to see Nazis get snuffed. This will do well. Now, for the daring, I defy hollywood to give us a remake set in 2008 Baghdad.
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Even if it has been punctured by one wicked ass looking knife and is bloody as hell. Hopefully we'll get some better, more artful posters. I had the Pulp Fiction poster way back in the day (with Uma on the bed, such a great poster), and I've still got a couple for Reservoir Dogs stored. I think I even had two Kill Bill posters.
But I cannot abide in a nazi swastika on my wall art. And yes, I know there is a difference between a swastika and a nazi swastika.
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So So Poster, he ain't done anything decent since kill bill 1. Still overrated and the worst actor ever.
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I saw that EW director's list yesterday and was disgusted. Seriously, how does that rag stay afloat? Between Lisa Schwarztbaum and their laughable "best of" lists, EW lacks all credibility. Only Harry eclipses them in that department.Putting Jon Favreau ahead of Woody Allen and Wes Anderson? And excluding Robert Zemeckis from the list altogether?Hyperbole aside, that's the worst list I've ever seen.
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On Yahoo! - http://tinyurl.com/bplemf
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There are alot of QT bashers on here, why! Everyone, well not everyone, but alot of people in this talk-back are talking trash about QT when there is no real reason to! The real reason what makes him the best film-maker of his generation and his movies so great is the simple fact that he is one of us. The geek, the nerd, the movie buff, who actually made it in a fucked up HollyWood system, by his own rules. Who cares if his films are inspired by other works, every fucking film that has ever been made has! Fellow geek and nerds dont bash your QT, the god of a generation of cinema! Be happy that he still has something to say and is making more movies than he usually does, his new film is a gift not a curse! Why dont all of you go pick on an oliver stone movie or something, and leave QT alone! He is a genuis and one of us, unlike most Hollywood directors!
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I don't believe in cinema "gods," or if I do they can still fall. Death Proof was Tarantino's twilight.
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Feb 20, 2009 11:51:36 AM CST
lensproject: and there are whole parts of Warhol's movies where
by wookie1972
Doesn't make them good. Yeah, Death Proof gave me time to reflect, but it was reflecting on how lousy the movie was, and how utterly ridiculous the conversation was. Face it: people DIDN'T LIKE IT.
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YOU ARE A FUCKED UP GEEK WHO STILL THINK HE AS SOME SPUNK WHEN YOU ARE DRY, PLEASE STOP, THIS MOVIE WILL SUCK AND IT WILL BE YOUR DOWNFALL
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Every film this moron has done after Pulp Fiction has sucked and the main reason is that he can't write a character you can actually feel for, they are all cartoons. Just because they talk about shit you think is cool in a pop culture nichey way does not mean they are interesting characters. He does some nice things with auiences' expectations but he is a poor writer because he cannot write a good character with a motivation that has depth and humanity. And this has been true since Pulp. Believe me, critics and fans who 'love' his last three, four films have lost perspective in the hype. He does collages and then turns them into cartoons. That's it. He is not on the path to becoming a great filmmaker like other living filmmakers who started off with an original voice but matured into great storytellers like the Coen Bros or Beat Takeshi or Croenenberg. Not by a long shot. QT is getting worse, believe me.
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Those came out in like, the 60's right?
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"and there are whole parts of Warhol's movies where nothing happens."
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...the same people who are saying "don't judge it by the trailer" are the ones saying "it will be F*cking awesome!"
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...the same people who are saying "don't judge it by the trailer" are the ones saying "it will be F*cking awesome!"
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"What makes him the best film-maker of his generation and his movies so great is the simple fact that he is one of us..."I'd prefer a filmmaker who is "the best filmmaker of his generation" because he makes good films. What sub-culture he belongs to doesn't mean a thing.
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...correction: he WAS one of us. in the eighties. then his ego inflated to the size hollywood itself.
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that the blood looks very Karo Syrup... makes me think of straight to video quality blood effects... I hate fake blood that beads like syrup... but maybe it's intentional for camp factor? Camp factor is now overdone...
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Feb 20, 2009 1:23:36 PM CST
Who gives a fuck?!! HISTORY IS ABOUT TO BE MADE!!
by dannyglovers_dickblood
10,000 POSTS ARE ABOUT TO GET FUCKED like Rachel Ray's freshly fisted asshole.JOIN US!! SEE YOUR NAME UP IN LIGHTS!! Stand by our Lord Bale as he proclaims: CONQUER LIFE AND YOU SHALL CONQUER DEATH!
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"Jackie Brown" is QTs 2nd best flick after "Pulp". Forrester (Go Black Hole!)& DeNiro alone rock that spot. And "Dogs" is great, too. BWT, "City On Fire" is not that good. YAWN up until the end. And how is "Dogs" a shot for shot? Ninja,please! I personally think "IB" is gonna be cool. The mis-spelling is probably something chatacter-driven. Who gives a fuck about spelling, Ms. Landers i.e. Se7en? or anything with the word 'Boyz' in it?! You all need to relax. 'Cause all YOUR favorite directors rip off Bergman, F. Lang & Hitchcock, too!!! But who rips off Enzo Castellari? (Not that IB is a 'remake', mind you...) QT. He may not be a genius, but he is a mad fucking scientist. Besides, who else can pull off the lines, "Dead ni993r storage..." and "Christal. Everything else is PISS!" better than he can. VIVA LOS BASTERDOS! Oh, and I won't mention any names, but who ass rapes Romero, F. Miller, & Alan Moore and is called a "visionary"? HMMMMMM?
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I meant 'character', Ms. Landers!!! Shut up, Larry Mondelo.
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Is that it has Mike Meyers in it. Yes we all know he isn't funny anymore, but it will be interesting to see him as someone crazy, since he is. That's if he is still in the film, people drop in and out of this film more then Mickey Rourke does in Iron Man 2.
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And it looks a lot cooler then these.
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you dishonor yourself with your inane pontificating.
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and i could honestly care less about whatever QT haters think. They could swim in the mediocrity of Zach Snyder and whats become of Sly's career.
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Halloween 2. Oh, wait! There was 54...
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go back to japan weaboo
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...Your envy remark is bullshit. I'm envious of him for scoring big money doing jack shit. But that goes for a million and one people. Personally I'd rather be Justin Timberlake. At least he doesn't have to have sex with Mira Sorvino. The criticisms come from one place mainly, and its the fact that hes a plagarist whose shit is getting weaker and weaker while his ego remains the same. You realise this has been a criticism of his that dates back to before he was a god on earth right?
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Not about AVATAR (although maybe he is about that, too, as I have yet to see it), but about QT.I'd like to see QT get involved with something that doesn't pay homage or outright steal from obscure, foreign or cult films. I know it's very elitist and prententious to say, but any movie geek worth his salt isn't seeing anything new with any of his films. People falling over themselves for QT need to watch more films, and in the age of DVD where the playing field is pretty much leveled for all films, there's no excuse to be this ignorant.
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Feb 20, 2009 3:38:49 PM CST
IAmLegolas, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of QT's film
by lanemyersclassic
I grant you, any geek worth his salt knows from where QT pays homage or gets some of his ideas. We have a lot of those who visit this site. BUT his films are unique in the sense that they have a life of their own. He is taking certain "gimmicks" (I call them) from almost unwatchable films and infuses/recycles them into a vastly superior, entertaining, and UNIQUE product. He doesn't REMAKE those old films, he MAKES unique experiences with some artifacts from old films. To a certain degree, you could say that about every director working today. IMHO, his biggest disappointment was when he actually tried to make one of those old films - Death Proof. It didn't work for me. I know it's hard to follow, but his use of certain old school gimmicks become new school film making ONLY because he does NOT reimagine entire plots and stories. Having said alladat, he does need to stay away from Roth and Rodriguez.
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But she finally moved on. Again...
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Yes, it's been another fine round of QT hatred this time out. But let's review his greatest sin: mediocrity. Reservoir Dogs was excellent, as first efforts go. From that point forward most geeks recognized properly that QT is a director who pays homage to primarily to the 70's exploitation and in some respect, that's his so-called "one trick" that repeats in film after film. The problem is its played out and now the lot of us who wanted to see QT "grow up" are disappointed. I for one, while no longer enamoured as I was in the 90's respect his knack for dialogue and even pacing and simply even using motifs we don't see in films today. To QT's credit, even when you know he's ripping from someone else, you can at least see his fingerprints on his respective films.
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Feb 20, 2009 4:58:15 PM CST
Sithtastic, QT has never made a film that isn't a QT film...
by lanemyersclassic
So, if you are waiting for him to "grow-up", you're going to be waiting a long time. The fact that he uses those "elements" from older films (that sounds better than "gimmicks")is part of what defines him as a filmmaker. Now, what differentiates his films amongst themselves is (I think) the storylines, dialog choices, and performances he conjures up from his actors. There you can start to measure his ups and downs. I think he's mostly had ups, big ups. Tarantino and Elmore Leonard work well together and I wish QT would get back to his stuff.
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There was a normal German Army. Some have suggested that there was strong social pressure to join the Nazi movmement, but not everyone did, and there was no major repercussions that I can see for not doing so.
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this whole 'movie thing' isn't working out for him.
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Feb 21, 2009 3:32:56 AM CST
who cares when THE EXPANDABLES will fuck the PUSSY TARDS BESTERD
by muri71
SLY IS DA MAN...besterds cast is 4 chicks and she males!
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...and not just once.
It's a pretty thrilling action drama with a very good story and nice performances - quite the opposite of a "snooze fest". You are completely missing the mark when you state that "...it's a Hong Kong flick! You'd expect more action". So, Hong Kong flicks are just about action or what? That's a dumb thing to say, imho. Hong Kong cinema has much, much more to offer than "just" action.
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damn you, proofread, damn you
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The EXCLUSIVE news, the script analysis, the cast rumors, the film dates, the asskiss set visits, the posters, the merch, the FIRST LOOK and inevitable ACIN raves, the disappointing box office results, which lead to yet another Tarantino fail. Good times.
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