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No Rourke For IRON MAN 2?? Seems To Be The Case...
Merrick here...
A while back, we heard that Mickey Rourke was offered a lowball amount to appear in a significant role in IRON MAN 2 (details HERE).
Now, it seems, he'll likely not be in the film at all.
"Right now, we're not doing Iron Man 2," Rourke told us grimly.
...says THIS ARTICLE in New York magazine.
The last I heard, Samuel L. Jackson hasn't resolved his negotiation with Marvel either - meaning Nick Fury will either be played by someone else in the movie, or removed from the film altogether.
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Rourke is too good for them!
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but still want to undercut a hot-old Academy Award nominated actor?
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He's critically acclaimed, but its not like the guy has a proven box office record now. And I hope Samuel Jackson does not do Nick Fury- wasn't Fury a white guy to begin with?
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What are they even doing. It's not like Iron Man made substantial bank or anything.
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Feb 18, 2009 4:03:23 PM CST
Well the good Marvel Movie game was fun while it lasted
by industrykiller!
Back to more Sam Raimi Spider Mans and god awful X-Men related films for us all I suppose.
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Yes, but Fury from the Ultimate universe was as black as the night sky.
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after their early success? I think their track record speaks for itself; so I'm going to say yes at this point.
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Seems to me that Marvel Studios trying to do things on the cheap and that's going to come back and bite them in the ass. If this keeps up we'll likely end up with a sequel that, despite the best intentions of the director, is more like The Punisher reboot in terms of quality. Too bad, they were off to a good start.
My personal opinion is that re-casting Samuel Jackson would pretty much put the nail in the coffin for a lot of the fans who were excited to see him in the first film.
??Pseudo??
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You started out with so much promise and quickly proved that you're just another studio.
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drinkzzz fo all mah frienzzzzz!!!!
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Who cares? As long as the story is good and the action is fun to watch. There are a million actors out there and most of them will gladly be in a huge blockbuster, with all its exposure and possibility for sequels, and do it for a "lowball" amount (which, by the way, is most likely STILL in the hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars).
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THOSE pieces of shit! FUCK THEM if they want to keep ALL the money they make!
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Yez.
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Seriously, they have 1 runaway success and think they are invincible. I'm a huge Marvel supporter but they're taking their success for granted right now. first they mucked Favreau around, then Sam Jackson, now Rourke! Next we'll hear Downey Jr. has been kicked out because they think he's 'too good' for the role!
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He is turning this down but was talking about doing some WWE shit? Does he want to revive his career or not? Both he and Jackson should do the movies for a low salary with a percentage of profits.
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Right now, my excitement for future Marvel projects is plummeting.
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Following his brilliant performance in The Wrestler and my own viewing of past Rourke performances that I missed before, well, I just can't get enough of Mickey right now. The idea of him facing off against Robert Downey Jr. sounded fucking great. So there goes that potential awesome-ness. Oh well...We still have The Expendables to look forward to!!!!
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YES THEY DESERVE TO DIE, AND I HOPE THEY BURN IN HELL! *chomps bowl full of nuts*
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I don't really care and Nick Fury or The Avengers, don't muck it up with a bunch of shitty DC heroes.
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he's only one person right?
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Feb 18, 2009 4:20:05 PM CST
The news just keeps getting worse and worse for this movie.
by allpowerfulwizardofoz
WTF is going on??? They are losing key players in what could have been an epic sequel.
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You know, the editorial...
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Feb 18, 2009 4:22:00 PM CST
RE: Dave Chappelle as Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury
by anarchyworldsend
Good Mutha Fuckin' choice, Mutha Fucka! It'll get you drunk! You might even fight a nigga or two!
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that "we"
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He's earned back a lot of street cred with The Wrestler and doesn't need to risk a potential Street Fighter to take it all away again. He needs to be patient, save his money, and wait for the next art-house low-expectation movie to further solidify his comeback. The concrete is still wet - he needs to let it cure.
As for Marvel movies, the entire notion behind taking all these Batman Begins styled "heroes-in-our-world" movies and have them culminate in an Avengers movie, is just absurd. The Avengers are the pinnacle of 'heroes who couldn't possibly exist in our world' as far as comic books go. You have a guy in a flying metal suit, a mythological diety, a guy who is half insect, a wartime propaganda poster-boy, and correct me if Im wrong but wasn't Namor the Super Merman an Avenger at one time or another?
regardless of that last questional member, its a cast of Hanna-Barbara quality heroes. It is not even POSSIBLE to make a serious movie with a NORDIC GOD as part of the cast. Thor being real opens the door for every mythological pantheon and then what you have is Clash of the Titans in really gay rainbow colored costumes.
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After the credits, isn't exactly "in the film".
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in order to make money. Some fucktard in a suit has told them they can cut corners, and still make a billion. And like the brain-donors that they are, Marvel have believed it.
They have forgotten the lessons of the past, which gave us things like David Hasslehoff, agent of Shield. And a badly accented Swedish Thor. And johnny-nobody playing Captain America.
Fuck you Marvel. You had your chance to make 3 billion out of your collective movie franchises in the next 4 years. Now you'll be lucky to make 300,000.
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Remember, in this day and age of the interweb and "spies" we are privy to every little nook, cranny, dotted "i" and crossed "t" to every movie being made. Hell, there is even a feature on this site devoted ENTIRELY to the sale of scripts! Not the making of the movie, but the SALE of a script! There are all kinds of things that happen when making a movie that are little setbacks, just the nature of the beast. The only thing that really matters is when our butts are in the seat and the movie is thrown on the screen (in my case, my TV screen).
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The whole Ultimate Universe nonsense will pass. The real marvel universe is the one that has staying power, that will be around ten, twenty, years from now, and Marvel shouldn't dilute those characters by marketing transient variants
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Thor could also be the guy who ended up getting the powers of Thor through Mjolnir. I can't remember the guy's name, nor do I feel like looking it up, but it'd be easier to explain that somehow the hammer is mystical and gives the regular guy some powers of Thor.
As far as Namor goes, yeah, he was part of the Avengers, but I doubt they're going with him. They'll more likely use the Hulk, since Tony Stark already made mention of it to the General in the last movie.
I don't think Cap America is that bad of an idea, especially since they also touched on the Super Soldier Serum in the Hulk as well. We saw what Blonsky could do on it before he got Hulk blood in him. -
hi comic download websites!
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You'll be f*ckin fat bitches in no time!
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The farther that fucking freak is from IM2 the better.
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I could see him rejecting a role if they refused to let his pooch make a cameo. 100%.
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Who ELSE won't be in this movie?
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getting suggested for every role.
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or do you just have so little taste that you can't tell great actors from bad? you ever heard the term you get what you pay for? for fuck's sake man.
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Which means instant oscar win! Rourke might get something too... Hey harry can we get an obit page going?
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I hate to nitpick but that is a double negative and confused me greatly. I thought you were debunking a rumor he wasn't going to be in it.
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Cripes.
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... first you ruin your comics now your ruining your films.
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You know it to be true!
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Feb 18, 2009 5:29:46 PM CST
Nice to see Marvel fucking over their Actors they way they did w
by misterk360
Ditto
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Thor's mortal alter ego was Donald Blake.
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"a guy who is half insect"Neither Antman nor the Wasp are half insect. In the Ultimates line, Wasp is a mutant. Also, Ultimates 1 portrayed Thor along the very lines you mention that I believe could be adapted to film very well.kronos6948, the name you're looking for is Donald Blake. He found a stick in a cave that was actually Mjolnir and you can figure out how the rest went from there.
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ditto
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When it starts production in 2025
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Just put an eye patch on him and maybe a nice beret and you really won't notice it's him...WTF is Marvel doing? I feel like I'm watching some bizarro world version of "The Producers" where Marvel knowingly set out to make these hit movie franchises and then once they became hits they decided to see if they could torpedo them
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Arcade, have him trap IM in murderworld
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jesus they can't even keep a fucking cast together. And seriously, who really gives a shit about Rourke? 6 months ago no one was sitting around going "oh you know who'd be good..Mickey Rourke" Give me a break. He's this year's Burt Reynolds
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Did you just "Waaah, the superheroes are too super!!". Yes you did.
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you guys that are slamming marvel for this are going to eat your words... rourke is a no talent ass clown anyway. i mean, he is cool, but, seriously, he would have ruined the movie for me. he is an idiot and not right for the role.
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Do you actually read any of the Avenger's books? Cause then you'd know there is no half insect guy in the books, just a biochemist who invented a size-altering formula and a cybernetic helmet through which he can communicate with ants.
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I just opened a dispute on Paypal against Chris Mahan, the lowlife brother of Shane Mahan, who's now pretty much the chief of the new Winston studios (now named Legacy Effects), who was also interviewed on here by Quint after Winston died. Mahan worked on all the famous Winston creations and movies, he also was the physical suit effects supervisor on Iron Man. His lesser known brother Chris and his wife Dione were given 2 exquisite hand-painted ltd. edition figures from Small Soldiers as a gift by good 'ole Stan himself that were made in his studio. Because money was tight and bills had to be paid, last month they tried to auction them through eBay. I won, but didn't meet the reserve price. Chris and Dione did want to sell me the figures, but preferred to make the sale outside of eBay so high eBay fees could be avoided, so, I, big fuckin' stupid dumbass send them $560 last month. Well, they never sent the items, avoided all my mails and now I'm at the mercy of Paypal. What this has to do with Rourke ? Nothing. Saw the name Iron Man, made the connection with the Mahan's and just wanted to ventilate my fuckin anger I guess, goddamned !!!
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Sure he can act..lots of people can act. What you all seem to be missing is that Rourke has a LOooooong way to go before people in Hollywood begin to trust him again. This is a guy who could destroy a movie a few years ago..Drunk, High, abusive, violent...he has been all those things and more. Rourke catching a break..and IMMEDIATELY starting to demand A lister pay again only proves that tiger hasn't gotten rid of his stripes just yet. I'm sure every producer down there wants him, for the Press if nothing else, but the smart ones won't lick his ass just yet...a guy loose cannon like Rourke might just take your $$$$ and die, or kill your star, mid shoot.
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Motherfucking money either...he is all but a one note actor these days...Jules as a Jedi, Jules as a guy on a plane, Jules as a guy with a nympho chained up, Jules as a ...well you get the picture..
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Marvel needs to learn that they can no longer play it cheap if they wish their ultimate dream of an Avengers film to be realized. They need to know they're playing with the big boys and deal accordingly. Money here should not be an object. They need to put up.
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What does he have a split personality?
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And, even if your forget his volitile nature, Rourke is not a proven draw. Guys like Downey, now a couple of years and a few good set experiences into his sobriety, can demand points and cash...but Rourke just got back on his feet, and back into the town that sent him into a tailspin, and he is already acting a bit nuts again. No...Marvel is right to watch their pennies here, keep the quality up and keep the budget tight...especially during these hard times. When movies start costing hundreds of millions to make, even these huge companies can't afford a failure..and you MUST ALWAYS think about the MONEY.
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Not even sure if using 'scientific" as relating to comic book origins is relevant.
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I can't say I've seen every Mickey Rourke movie, but in the many I have seen he has never had a bad role. I mean acted less than his capacity.I would pull any Rourke film before say random Clooney or Smith or Damon movie.
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This always seemed like trying to force a square peg in a round hole to me. Just because Rourke is "hot" right now all of a sudden they want him to be in everything. If he's right for the part great, if not don't shoehorn him in there just to meet your quota of stars who have a buzz or something.
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but think about all the Marvel movies since X-men. They all have shitty Ultimate influence in them. So I'm afraid the damage has been done.
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it is his ability to show up on time, do the job, stay sober, sane, and not cost the studio money or the director time. Rourke is a good actor...but he has been more trouble than he's worth in the past from a business point of view.
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This is all bullshit. Rourke and his people know that in exchange for taking a huge paycut he'll get some points on the back end, which will turn out to be significant since this movie will make LOADS of cash. This is all about ego and image, and not about reality. Are Marvel cocksuckers? Of course they are, they wear suits for a living. But Rourke is going down the same path that brought him into the wilderness before. He's a great actor, but once a douchebag, always a douchebag.
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Feb 18, 2009 6:46:20 PM CST
Fuck Rourke in his drug-addedled brain, we want Nick Fury!!!
by tallboy66
You promise Nick Fury at the end, you give Nick Fury (as played by SLJ), otherwise it's a fucking cocktease. Shell out the money to Jackson, Marvel, screw Rourke anyway, coulda been better.
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Look, as Malkovich said in ROUNDERS "Pay dee man heees MONEYYYYYYY!!!"
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Feb 18, 2009 6:53:59 PM CST
Hey Avi, look to the lesson of Menahem Golan and Yoram Globus
by yackbacker
Israelis need to stay out of the picture business. Go sell skin cream at the local mall instead, and leave Hollywood to us Jews.
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before the producers realize that adding high profile and talented actors to the sequel will not only guarantee a higher initial box office run but even greater DVD sales?
I think I read somewhere that the lowball figure offered to Rourke was $250,000. Now, most of us on here would do a hell of a lot for that kind of dough, but in Hollywood that's pretty much a slap in the face and a kick to pride cajones.
So, Paramount, cough up the dough, keep Rourke involved, and keep fanboy anticipation high.
I'm pretty sure when Iron Man 2 gets released that it will break a shitload of box office records. I'm not sure if it will have the legs to give The Dark Knight a run for its money, but given how many people I know actually preferred Iron Man over The Dark Knight, well I dunno.
It's gonna be hard enough for people to swallow Don Cheadle (a fine actor in his own right) as Rhodey in the sequel, seeing that the role was originally played by Terrence Howard.
And as far as I'm concerned they should spend at least half their budget insuring that Sam (the motherfuckin' man) Jackson reprises his post credit role as Nick Fury. Jackson can't get paid enough! -
Who cares..what matters is the end product. Rourke seems to be the current "i'm cool 'cause I think he's the greatest" actor. Fuck that, there are many good actors who could contribute a good role to IM2. Quit being such haters and try a little patience; wait for a product before you critique a product...assholes.
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....from banks............so a lot of what they probably made went into paying those loans back? .........just sayin
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then Iron Man 2 should be cool. It's just weird that the studios aren't seemingly interested in maintaining continuity at this point.
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Since they canned Howard. I just saw the headline and could not resist. Fav can't pull his own to take care of his cast. That or he's a great backstabber... Fuck IM2!
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Feb 18, 2009 7:11:34 PM CST
Chuck_Cobra, if Marvel hasn't seen a profit yet from IRON MAN
by yackbacker
then they are bleeding cash worse than the banks you mention. Marvel Studios is in the black- take box office plus licensing revenue together, they've got the money, trust me.
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He's made one movie or more, each year since he started acting in 1979- every damn year except for "2007" So shut the fuck up!!!! You don't know what you are saying. You fucking pricks think you know a man, you shit talking mutherfuckers. What you can say is he's finally Back In Form, Or On Top Of His Game, Or He Found The Role that was Always His to Play- but you sure as shit can't say he hasn't been hitting the acting bag over the years. He's played Marv, Billy, and Jordan in the lest few years. Go look at his IMDB credits you dipshits. The Wrestler is an Amazing film. You tell me what the fuck would happen if that came out the same year as Rocky did...
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hey man! there's a beverage here!
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Hey, somebody had to do it.
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So how long have you guys been dating? Not counting "2007" of course.
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you typed that.
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I guess that they will have to find some other actor to fill the immense thespian skills of Mr. Rourke. That just leaves Michael Madsen, Alec Baldwin, Kurt Russell, Chris Sarandon, Chris Noth, Jeff Goldblum, William Forsythe, Powers Boothe, Charlie Sheen, Emilio Estevez, Rob Lowe, Robin Williams, Adam Baldwin, Nathan Fillion, etc., etc., etc.
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I want them in Marvel movies, now! Jeff Goldblum for Mr Fantastic?
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So they gave hime what he considered a "lowball" offer (which, by the way, would be a great offer to people who'd been living in the real world at any point). Maybe, just MAYBE they'd rather have the money show up on screen. You know, sink it into effects, sets, locations, etc, rather than blow the entire budget on a couple actors.
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That he wouldn't be in it.
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You're the fucking retard..getting a quality cast is always a part of making sure the end product is entertaining....stick that in your own fucking diaper.
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Rourke is notoriously difficult to work with, and frankly he's not worth it. Plus if he is trying to rebuild his career, turning down a role in IM2 is a move in the wrong direction. But look, it has Favreau directing, it has RDJ and it has fucking Sam Rockwell who I would much rather have then Rourke who I could see chewing scenery in a bad way. There are plenty of other options, the movie will be fine. Favreau has proven he knows exactly what he is doing, he got Downey, the guy who made the movie what it is and he had to fight to get him. He'll choose his battles.
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It could happen.
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...seriously, Kiefer Sutherland makes over 550k per episode of 24, and Marvel thinks a Golden Globe winner like Rourke deserves less than HALF of that for appearing as a main character on a mega-budget film?
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sorry Sam, but you know its the right thing to do.
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sorry Sam, but you know its the right thing to do.
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You're acting like Marvel has money and is skrewing people over. They're going bankrupt.
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No, it wouldn't work. Yes, Russell would be cool, but all we would see is Snake Plisken.
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And look at how that shit turned out. What? TOO SOON???
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but someone beat me to it
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even Michael Jackson is broke ad h's auctioning all his weird shit http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/gallery/2009/feb/15/michael-jackson-auction?picture=343232869
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...after seeing him in Sin City, I'd prefer him as far away from comic book films as possible. His Marv was not great, hell, not even good. It just sucked.
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Yep.
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$250k to costar in a movie that will make hundreds of millions worldwide? That's a very low offer, regardless of the points he might get at the back end (besides, aren't points disfavored because studio accountants always find a way to claim that a movie "lost money"?). Stars typically make millions in base pay on films like this.
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They're making bad decisions.
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Feb 18, 2009 9:15:27 PM CST
Marvel's vision of same actors across different franchises is fa
by curious jorge
I predict the Avengers film will be an absolute mess.
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Sam Jackson really tied the movie together, did he not?
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To play all the characters in the upcoming Ironman, DUH!
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My hopes are going down now. All your fault Marvel. Tell the execs to stop hogging the money.
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Feb 18, 2009 9:50:16 PM CST
every thing that was cool about the first gone from sequel
by greenstyle92
except RDJR. wasn't that one guy supposed to become mandarin? and what's the point of "Next time Baby" if there's not a next time?
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...shouldn't that idiot have fixed the economy yet?
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The ONLY thing officially "gone" from the first flick is Howard. The two most important people, RDJ and Favreau, are on board, and so is Paltrow, who is right behind them in order of importance, IMO. Rourke's going to find that he needs IM2 more than IM2 needs him. Let's see who officially gets cast before damning this movie to X3 status... I still have hope that Sam Jackson will ultimately be signed - the guy has never turned down a movie before, has he? :)
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First it was Favereau almost not coming back supposedly because of money then it was Ron Howard getting axed supposedly over money now its Rourke and Jackson out because of money. Aren't Rockwell and Blunt on the fence because of other commitments? Is this movie going to be two hours of RDJ and Paltrom? They've got good chemistry but two hours of nothing but them is pushing it.
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But the alleged 6 figure offer did seem very low. I know it's a lot of money but The Wrestler isn't his first major film in a decade. Once Upon a Time, Man on Fire, Domino, Sin City...big movies, sizable roles...the guy is looking less and less like a wild card.
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His performance in THE WRESTLER is certainly not Oscar worthy. Sure, he did a good job in a heavily cliched movie--but he has always been a pretty good actor. I personally see NO parallels between his career and the movie's character, except for the fact that they're both involved in uneventful events. In the movie, his character's so-called "comeback" or chance for one more moment of glory is very silly. The fact is that Rourke, these days, can really only count on the "freak" roles because he has fucked up his appearance. I mean, if by landing a villain role in IRON MAN he could make some good money, fine. But he's still on the road to having Richard Lynch's career.
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Ron Howard was somehow involved in Iron Man 2? Did I miss something?
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Sam Jackson at this point plays himself in everything. At least Hasselhoff was Nick Fury in that low budget tv movie from the late 90s.
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You get what you pay for.
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Just get some talent. Whatever you gotta do, just make it happen. Bring in another studio, if ya gotta.
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Since SLJ appeared as Nick Furry in Iron Man 1 to set up story elements for Iron Man 2... you'd think Marvel would have put Jackson under a multi film contact at that point. This makes his cameo in the first film sort of pointless in retrospect.
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Feb 19, 2009 12:04:10 AM CST
WHOEVER IS RUNNING MARVEL IS A GREEDY FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by illuminate
250 Thousand dollars for a movie that is probably going to make half a billion dollars world wide. Actors that got cast as villains got paid way more than that two decades ago. Marvel is seriously fucking things up. There is no way in hell they will get a name actor with that kind of a low fee so, why are they trying. Iron-Man is not an Indie flim so, actors expect to get paid.
I knew that Samuel Jackson would not be greedy and ask for 25 million to play the part. They probably offered Jackson a few thousand also.
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I, like MrClark, weep for Ron Howard not getting to don armor for IM2.
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Feb 19, 2009 12:05:26 AM CST
TO ADD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by illuminate
A GREEDY FUCK THAT IS GOING TO FUCK OVER THE MOVIE.
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Yeah, I hear ya. But it's funny how Mickey Rourke is all of a sudden the be-all-and-all of movies. He was a joke two years ago now he is a great actor. OH NO! Mickey won't be in Iron Man 2?!?!? It's going to suck! And come on, Sam Jackson has an iffy track record at best. We all love him because... well... he's Sam Jackson. But are YOU saying that if an actor gets a lot of money for a movie, he is a good actor? Or that all actors that get tens of millions a movie are worth it? My point was only that the star of the movie is Downy as IRON MAN. There are lots of great actors that would love to be in an IRON MAN movie. Just because it may not be Jackson and Rourke doesn't mean the movie has no legs.
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Yep.
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except a lot of baggage, a huge ego, and a face that looks like hamburger. The Wrestler was good, but there are other very good actors out there that would be willing to take the back end to be in Iron Man 2.
That's what we're talking about here. Marvel wants to put every dollar they can into the production, not the actor's salaries. Other "A" list actors take the back end all the time to get the best product up on screen. I'd say Rourke is the greedy one, but you know what...I don't blame him. His third set of 15 minutes will be up soon and he should go for the coin. There's a better match for this film. Best wishes, Mickey.
As for Terrance Howard, that's a shame, but the film can overcome it. Downey is the real star. I'd love to see him back as Rhodes, but only because of continuity.
Sam Jackson is, a very talented actor, but let's face it...he's been, coasting for a while. Someone needs to sit him down and tell him that before it's too late. He just doesn't care anymore. -
Moneywise... only something like 5% of stage actors live above the poverty line from acting alone. I don't know the numbers for SAG, but the big money actors are a small percentage, I'm sure. There are plenty of quality actors that would take the part for 250,000.
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is going down hill fast.. Just when we thought we had another quality marvel franchise.. Dammit!
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always bring in Dolph to play the russian baddie... its worked before..
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Fly in to the final battle with "Sweet Child of mine" Playing in the background.. epic..
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By the time shooting starts for the Avengers, Captain America, Hulk, Warmachine, Hulk, and Nick Fury would be recasted.
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But since he wasn't in the first one, and I thought Iron Man was pretty good, there just might be a chance that I'll like this anyway!
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Do we know how much these actors are actually asking for?Let's face it - if these guys are asking for vain glorious amounts of money on the strength of how much Iron Man made should Marvel Studios, as a business, just completely bend over and pay them? This is of course the problem with trying to attract big names for your roles - the cost can start getting phenomonal and if the film has a budget and say a large percentage of that is taken by actors then you end up with deficits in other regions of the film - effects etc (and don't anyone say it's the acting and story that counts because it is - but if they are supported by shitty effects the film will be a laughing stock).Of course I want to see the very best people for the roles but when actors say low ball or low wages the biggest names are talking more than many / most of us will make in our working lives.
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Greedy, skinflint comics companies are nothing new.
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He'll do the film solo and at the end it will be dedicated to his chihuahua...COME SUNDAY IF HE WINS...HES GONNA GO ON AND ON AND ON BOUT THAT DOG...
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This cheapo route they're going is just stupid.
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was always a cheezy character
A guy with a whip pitted against a guy in the most advanced personal defense and weapons system.
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Feb 19, 2009 5:54:12 AM CST
I guess Mickey Rourke will wrestle at Wrestlemania 25....
by leafar the lost
...afterall. Vince McMahon would pay Rourke $250,000 for one night's work. Fuck Marvel's cheap fucking ass!
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Feb 19, 2009 6:18:00 AM CST
I can live without Mick. But losing Sam would be totally stupid
by mr nicholas
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That'll pull their collective heads out of their high-and-mighty asses.
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if this keeps up robert downey jr bails after iron man 2.
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... Jon Favreau. (Just a guess.)
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How long before they drop RDJr too? Way to fuck up the franchise, Marvel. Duh.
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The Richard Lynch reference was freakin' hilarious. IM2 will be way better off without Rourke.
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They should re-film Downey Jr saying the line: 'I'm trying to get a team together, but it's so hard, everyone has their price and, well, you know, we may just have to compromise and accept second best on a few occasions.'
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in the second movie. As far as I know the last scene in IM was a set up for the Avengers movie. So Iron Man 2 shouldn't be about Shield. There are so many good storylines like "demon in a bottle" that they could use. Robert Downey J. and Jon
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You're right. I remember back in the early 80s when I first started reading comics, they were like 35 or 40 cents. The price went up quickly, and by the time I got out of high school and more or less stopped collecting, a single standard issue was like $1.25. I love comics and I'd still be reading them but for the prices. They're NOT worth it. It's NOT good value. I'd even subscribe to a couple titles for my kids, but again the prices are outrageous. Go to the Marvel website and check. A year of any Spidey title will cost you more than any magazine subscription. For a COMIC. Full of ADVERTISEMENTS.
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Coming in 2010
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In this economy with unemployment skyrocketing you would think these celebs would be grateful just finding work instead of complaining about not getting an extra 2-3 million...
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No Terrence Howard, No Samuel L Jackson, No Mickey Rourke. I get it Marvel really want this movie to be more like those shitty Spider-Man pictures. Zero stars and micromanage the production so they can have all of the money. Well, at least I have the first one to enjoy.
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Yeah, Terrence Howard, Samual L Jackson and Mickey Rourke are the only good actors out there...there are many, many quality actors to fill in. Personally I love S. Jackson but Rourke....no love there. Terrence Howard...whatever.
You guys build up your expectations so high that you are destined to hate it just from Pavlovian response. Relax. -
has the kool-aid finally run out? I've been saying that Spiderman 2 and 3 are shit for years but fanboys always wanted to assault me. So now the truth comes out?
anyway, to get this post back on track, I have to say that I loved Iron Man. Let Marvel do whatever it takes to get a second quality film. that's all. -
losing Mickey Rourke means the movie will suck? Give me a fucking break...get your heads out of your fucking asses. Sam Jackson is a hack too. And Terrance Howard was the only bad thing about the first movie...the movie is improving...think about it. Sam Rockwell over Mickey Rourke ANY FUCKIN' DAY...You whiners are AMATEUR
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Feb 19, 2009 12:26:15 PM CST
End of Iron Man, first time cared about SLJ in a looong time...
by sk229
He was understated in that half minute seconds he was onscreen, and he sold the idea that we're headed for a much larger universe that all interconnects and WORKS. Once you start changing too many actors from one film to the next, the continuity is gone and there's too much to ignore. Of course you can still enjoy it if it's a good movie, I just think everyone would prefer that they'd stick with Howard and Jackson. It could have been a truly epic universe if done right and NOT on the cheap... and they would have been rewarded for it too. I also think they'd forgo making the movie altogether before losing RDJ or Favs. If they lost either one of them for playing it cheap, the stock would plummet and they'd be held to task by their stockholders. There's just no way they can go it without those two. I also think everyone is seriously underestimating the much larger exposure Rourke is going to get once the Wrestler hits DVD. Many people haven't seen it, and I really believe it's going to connect with middle America once they can actually watch it at home. So IM 2 trailers would hit just around the time his exposure to the audience is cresting and it WOULD give it that little extra bit of interest. Still, I can understand not wanting to take a chance giving him too much money and then having him up to his old tricks again. RDJ's climb back to the top took longer than one movie and he really earned it and seemed to have the right attitude towards the entire venture. I love that he said to Paltrow, "Don't you want to be in a movie that people actually SEE." Yeah... take that you fuckin english wannabe. He's just a MUCH better actor than anyone else out there, borderline genius, and his humility proves what self-obsessed idiots the reset of them, who are nowhere near as talented, truly are. Then there's Tropic Thunder, something hardly any comedians, let alone dramatic actors could get away with.
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why are they having so many issues with the money? Didn't they make enough with the first one to cast whoever is a good choice?
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Most of his scenes were cut so he wasnt really shown doing anything. I was skeptical of Chedel as an Army man too, but I just watched him play a deep cover spy in Traitor recently, and he was really convincing.
Anyways, Howard should just be grateful he was paid more than RDJ, Paltrow, or Bridges in the 1st one... -
Yes, Marvel doesn't need to be low balling quality talent, but I don't really need for Rourke to be in this. It's kind of a shame that Howard is out, but I'm a bigger fan of Cheadle. Now, Nick Fury needs to be Sam Jackson if they are going to have him play a major part. If not, write him out and hire him for the eventual Avengers movie.
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that is all . . .
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The minute he turned up, credibility vanished. He has no place in a believable universe.
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This is someone who used to beat up his partner, who disfigured his face with continued plastic surgery, who pissed off everyone in the business, and, by the accounts of people I know who worked with him, is batshit crazy and is always carrying around little smelly dogs. Ick. I don't care how great "The Wrestler" is - Rourke is past his prime and NOT an asset to any movie he's in. Because he's icky!
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VERY OPEN
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... for the villain - he is a crazy larger than life character (now anyway) - but i knew the rumor was too good to be true - marvel thinks the real magic is the property - iron man as a brand - theyre wrong - the f4 movies proved this - great property, piss poor movies - its the talent attached that makes the brand worth checking out - the first one was great because of the director the lead and the supporting cast - the screenplay didnt hurt either - so far they still have the director, downey and a decent writer - why stop there - get jackson and rourke - spend the money, youll get it back
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Remember the very last scene in Hulk with Ross and Stark? If they don't follow that up with Iron Man going after Hulk then what was the point of that? That was the first thing that sprang to my mind when I saw it. Better to have IM reign him in before the Avengers movie than cram in his joining the team in there. Both movies were well cast and entertaining.... it seems like a no-brainer to me. Would be the 1st crossover super hero movie too, I think.
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Just to fuck with everyone, he should turn down the role as the bad guy and start pushing to take over the Nick Fury role.
For good measure, start the hype machine to cast Sam Jackson as the Mandarin. -
accep[t no substitutes.
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HA HA HA HA What a bunch of Dildos!
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