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Published on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 2:03pm |
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Doc Poison checks out OUTLANDER & so should you!
Hey folks, Harry here... This internet is a strange thing and AICN is even more weird. Doc Poison below is someone that I've never not known. He used to be a kid that would mow our yard and bag comic books for trade with my dad. He was always a big brother - and he moved off into the world far away from Austin. Then I am clicking through a million emails and lo and behold... there he is. Not only that, but he's seen a really badass movie that I saw that fell through the cracks... OUTLANDER. This is the best indie film that I've seen this year. And Doc's assertion that this guy should be considered for CONAN is dead on. Howard McCain is the real deal, and this movie is like some crazed Ron Howard dabbling with Science Fiction gone perfect. But screw that, here's Doc to tell you all about it!
I got a chance to see Outlander last night in Seattle at the Science Fiction Museum, which is on the Space Needle campus. The show was hosted by Warren Etheredge of The Warren Report, a local movie site. Warren was funny and personable though I find his site kind of stuffy. Director Howard McCain was very entertaining, telling all kinds of stories about making the film, which was 16 years from first draft to the big screen. More on this later.
About the movie: it was fantastic! He took potentially humorous material and treated it with great respect. Vikings, aliens, and monsters? C'mon, that sounds like a National Lampoon or Monty Python set up. But he was able to make a straightforward, dramatic film. The movie itself has been reviewed on your site already so I will not get into a lengthy plot description here. Yes, it is definitely a retelling of the Beowulf story, and according to McCain that was his intention all along; "What if the Grendel was really an alien from outer space?"
It has a big budget studio feel to it, not at all like an independent film. The eighth century Norse setting is very convincing, in the same way you really believed you were in a different time while watching Braveheart. No, it's not as big a film as that, but it sure shares some traits. I would call it Braveheart meets Predator.
The acting was top notch, but Sophia Myles as Freya really stands out. And she holds her own in this film, she is no fair maiden needing to be rescued. Jim Caviezal as Kainen was solid, though a little stiff. And of course you can't go wrong with John Hurt or Ron Perlman. If anything, Perlman needed more screen time, he only had a dozen or so lines.
The monster effects were outstanding. Again, it looks like a big budget studio movie, though I wish the monster had more screen time. The flashbacks telling Kainen's back story were very well done, the alien worlds totally convincing.
There were a couple of things that broke the spell of believability, but they were very small. There was an underwater scene where Kainen seemed to hold his breath for 10 minutes or more. Another scene was one of those "one person holding a huge amount of weight by one arm" kind of things, like Ripley in Aliens as she's holding onto the ladder while the queen aliens hangs suspended from her leg. And in another scene we see a sword being made in what appears to be a couple of hours. Swords take weeks or months to make. But most of these hiccups were due to the forced running time limit insisted upon by that dick weasel, Harvey Weinstein.
The post-movie interview was very interesting. Seems that it took 16 years to make this film, meaning it was written in advance of 13th Warrrior or that 3-D Beowulf, so the "criticism" that it is just "copying" these movies is totally off base. But it has bio luminescent monsters, so at least it got that on screen before Avatar does.
As mentioned before, Harvey Weinstein insisted on a certain arbitrary running time, and a lot of good stuff got cut to make it fit. (A few spoilers ahead) When the monster is finally killed, they were not allowed the 15 seconds to show that it was really, really dead, not "gonna come back in the next scene" semi-dead. Several gory deaths were cut, and an alien birth scene was also shortened. And, of all things, they were forced to scroll the credits at a faster rate than industry standard.
Seems that Weinstein decided he did not want to spend any money on marketing this film, and since he only had $2 million dollars in it (out of a total of $30 raised from other sources), he figured he could make more money by skipping all marketing and going direct to DVD. So basically he took McCain's life long dream and crushed it, just to make a few bucks. Typical Hollywood producer asshole, I know. Still it was sad to see how much love and attention was clearly put into this project only to hear that it is unlikely to be shown on the big screen for very long, if at all. As you have noticed, this film is in super limited release, and in most places it only showed for one week. That's because one week was all Weinstein was obligated to show it to comply with the terms of his contract, and with no marketing at all. Very sad. This is an entertaining, dramatic, period film that is well worth watching on the big screen. But get it on DVD if that's your only option.
Lots of other stuff was discussed in the post-show chat session, but the most important was about the Conan film he is now writing. According to McCain, Brett Ratner is NOT confirmed as the director. Hurrah! Seems that Ratner is being pursued by two studios to direct two different films: Conan or Rush Hour 4. He can do one but not both, and has yet to commit to either one. Obviously, he would be better suited to Rush Hour 4. So there is still hope that Conan will get a real director who actually cares about the source material.
In fact, Howard McCain would be an excellent choice. One thing I noticed about Outlander is that it felt very much like a Robert E. Howard story. It had a gritty, warlike primitive culture, giant scary monster, brooding main character with a shady past who does not really fit into the group, great battle scenes and violent death. It could have used a few more scantily clad wenches and maybe a wizard, but other than that it is true to the flavor of the Conan stories. McCain would be an excellent choice to direct Conan- write Lionsgate and let 'em know!
I can tell you more about the post-show talk if you are interested. If you use this call me "Doc Poison".
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Reader Talkback
Pain or Poison? by Aloy | Feb 18th, 2009 01:06:18 PM | whats up? by bilbo78 | Feb 18th, 2009 01:11:12 PM | Laughable by Bishop6 | Feb 18th, 2009 01:17:48 PM | Amost all Sci-Fi is by Diagnostic | Feb 18th, 2009 01:19:30 PM | Oh also.. by Bishop6 | Feb 18th, 2009 01:19:31 PM | By "cut by scrivener | Feb 18th, 2009 01:20:14 PM | "outlander" and "Taken" get
recut for no good reason? by MGTHEDJ | Feb 18th, 2009 01:20:41 PM | By "cut" do you mean "cut out"
or "never filmed"? by scrivener | Feb 18th, 2009 01:22:16 PM | Saw this ages ago and it's
GREAT! by CeejayNightwing | Feb 18th, 2009 01:40:52 PM | this was good by MacTard420 | Feb 18th, 2009 01:48:05 PM | Fantastic Movie by Rebeck2 | Feb 18th, 2009 02:02:47 PM | Wienstein is a douche bag. by Yoda's Ball Sack | Feb 18th, 2009 02:07:42 PM | But Harry... by Rebeck2 | Feb 18th, 2009 02:07:52 PM | Predator by the new transported man | Feb 18th, 2009 02:14:52 PM | Doc Poison, you incredible
FUCKTARD by Bill Brasky | Feb 18th, 2009 02:29:02 PM | Predator v. Christ by Victor Creed | Feb 18th, 2009 02:30:26 PM | Are you people serious? This
sucked. SPOILER by StrokerX | Feb 18th, 2009 02:55:11 PM | And the whole by Bishop6 | Feb 18th, 2009 02:57:49 PM | It's not much chop... by quantize | Feb 18th, 2009 03:16:15 PM | Harry - “A Crazed Ron Howard
Meets…” by Vic Twenty | Feb 18th, 2009 03:29:09 PM | I've seen Outlander by vadakinX | Feb 18th, 2009 03:39:01 PM | Also the Sword by Series7 | Feb 18th, 2009 03:49:30 PM | It beats 10 times the Keanu
Reeves "Earth stood still shit
fest" by lostbat | Feb 18th, 2009 03:50:13 PM | Rebeck2 by Series7 | Feb 18th, 2009 03:55:16 PM | 2nd half was pretty good... by joergn | Feb 18th, 2009 03:59:17 PM | OUTLANDER WAS FUCKING GARBAGE by Bass Bastardson | Feb 18th, 2009 04:06:03 PM | Oh, on top of all that... by Bass Bastardson | Feb 18th, 2009 04:07:16 PM | From the Trailers it Looked
Awsome by medicinaluser | Feb 18th, 2009 04:10:21 PM | HEY HARRY!! you're a fucking
disgrace by the milf lover | Feb 18th, 2009 04:12:37 PM | MilfLover is right, Harry-
STEP THE FUCK UP by D.Vader | Feb 18th, 2009 04:20:21 PM | Space Needle Campus??? by cineninja | Feb 18th, 2009 04:27:42 PM | weinstein tried to bury the
movie because JIM CAV worked
with me by ironic_name | Feb 18th, 2009 04:41:45 PM | because JIM CAV worked with
mel gibson by ironic_name | Feb 18th, 2009 04:56:53 PM | The Science Fiction Museum
here in by Dingbatty | Feb 18th, 2009 04:58:32 PM | Anyone saying that this movie
is only SCI FI movie of the
week by Series7 | Feb 18th, 2009 05:01:20 PM | It Didn't Even Play Here in
New York?! by cowboyone | Feb 18th, 2009 05:22:10 PM | This movie was o.k. at best... by Sappers Forward | Feb 18th, 2009 05:35:13 PM | whiny bitches ! Outlander gets
a thumbs up by Mr_X | Feb 18th, 2009 07:22:18 PM | AMEN MILF LOVER!! by lostbat | Feb 18th, 2009 08:00:23 PM | Good Idea, shit presentation by The Red | Feb 18th, 2009 08:00:43 PM | SEEN THIS AGES AGO! by Sovikos | Feb 18th, 2009 09:13:01 PM | crappy director messed up
another Viking film by pipergates | Feb 18th, 2009 10:05:27 PM | Pipergates, You're An Idiot by Rebeck2 | Feb 18th, 2009 10:17:03 PM | Whiney Bitches Is Right by Rebeck2 | Feb 18th, 2009 10:23:11 PM | rebeck, ratner is too good for
you by pipergates | Feb 18th, 2009 11:02:52 PM | I'm sorry but Outlander by the_shogun_gunslinger | Feb 18th, 2009 11:43:54 PM | I saw it in a packed house... by My friends call me Killjoy | Feb 19th, 2009 12:02:47 AM | My friends call me Killjoy by Series7 | Feb 19th, 2009 01:28:12 AM | Rebeck2 by quantize | Feb 19th, 2009 05:00:50 AM | the love for this movie is
BIZARRE by quantize | Feb 19th, 2009 05:03:50 AM | I really wanted to see this in
theaters by SoylentMean | Feb 19th, 2009 08:25:07 AM | Iraqi bootleg for the win.... by onemanarmy | Feb 19th, 2009 09:15:10 AM | Maybe they were old gay
people? by Wee Willie | Feb 19th, 2009 09:53:45 AM | I saw this too, annnnd... by fathergeek | Feb 19th, 2009 11:22:52 AM | To Redfist... concerning
seniors at gay films... by fathergeek | Feb 19th, 2009 12:02:39 PM | All Of by Rebeck2 | Feb 19th, 2009 12:05:16 PM | All Of The Above by Rebeck2 | Feb 19th, 2009 12:06:04 PM | vikings and aliens =frazetta
style airbrush vans. cool. by ironic_name | Feb 19th, 2009 01:23:58 PM | and soon, cowboys and aliens
will be made. by ironic_name | Feb 19th, 2009 01:24:27 PM | ignore rebeck2 by dahveed1972 | Feb 19th, 2009 01:53:26 PM | fathergeek - "im staright,
seriously, i mean it!" by JimmyJoe RedSky | Feb 19th, 2009 03:56:59 PM | "straight" - damn typos by JimmyJoe RedSky | Feb 19th, 2009 03:57:27 PM | "outlander" & "mutant
chronicles"... by JimmyJoe RedSky | Feb 19th, 2009 03:59:47 PM | Seemed far to LONG to me by Knugen | Feb 19th, 2009 06:35:44 PM | saw Brokeback 3 times by Series7 | Feb 19th, 2009 06:41:35 PM | Aslo where the fuck did you
live by Series7 | Feb 19th, 2009 06:44:58 PM | this movie sucks and rips off
a bunch of better movies by compn | Feb 19th, 2009 08:19:31 PM | actually, i forgot about one
part by compn | Feb 19th, 2009 08:40:01 PM | i think.. by Coolhand_luke | Feb 19th, 2009 09:15:28 PM | and.. by Coolhand_luke | Feb 19th, 2009 09:18:36 PM | TL:DR by onemanarmy | Feb 19th, 2009 11:25:02 PM |
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