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The Man With No Name enjoys Johnny Depp and Christian Bale in Michael Mann's PUBLIC ENEMIES!!! Now there's a negative to add...
Hey folks, Harry here with the latest Test Screening report from PUBLIC ENEMIES - the Dillinger story by Michael Mann featuring Depp and Bale facing off. Great thing about this film is that Mann shot it on location at the places where the events took place. Every bank, movie theater, etc you see was the actual locations where the 'Jackrabbit' hopped away with cash! Mann does gangsters - and frankly I can't wait!
I saw the Public Enemies screening tonight, and let me just say that Michael Mann is consistently on point. I was worried about his style and the time period clashing, but I'll get to that in a bit.
First, the performances. Johnny Depp plays John Dillinger, and Christian Bale plays the man heading up the Bureau's investigation. Johnny Depp was absolutely perfect for the role. He plays it with such a subtlety, such a perfect cunning. He was great to watch in every scene, especially with Marion Cotillard, who I found myself liking more and more as the movie progressed. Bale nails the necessary accents, and is perfectly suited for the man in charge of the manhunt. My favorite person to pop up was Giovanni Ribisi, who steals every scene he was in.
Michael Mann's style has been retained, and refined. I wish more action minded directors would watch his movies. There's such a clarity to his action, that's been lost in the last couple of years. And, as can be expected, the cinematography is top notch. It's a different time, and different places, but he still finds a way to capture it in that graceful way.
Music was temp, and the sound was half temp. It sounded like all the gun sound effects were the ones recorded live on set. It worked for Heat, and it works here. The guns really pack a punch.
Movie was about two and a half hours, but I'm guessing they'll probably lose another 10-15 minutes just to help pacing and length issues. The movie certainly wasn't slow, but I could see where they could lose a few minutes.
Also, nice to see that Mann doesn't subscribe to PG-13 bullshit when it comes to his movies. Every hit counts, and all the blood was there. A lot of it.
Definitely a recommended film, I can't wait for the final version.
- the man with no name
And here' s a look from The Bardy Party - he really really loved it! Can't wait!
Hey Harry,
I haven't written too many reviews for you guys, but I thought I had to let everyone know that PUBLIC ENEMIES was Amazingly Fantastic.
They had one of those special screenings last night where they don't tell you what the title of the movie is at the Sherman Oaks Arclight. When I first read the synopsis on my pass about a John Dillinger gangster flick I instantly knew what it was and thanked the gods for giving me this great chance. Michael Mann sat right in front of me as well, taking notes and actually gave me a thing of popcorn he didn't want.
After what seemed like hours, they announced it was public enemies, the lights dimmed and the movie began. I am going to keep this ridiculously SPOILER-FREE.
When the movie started there weren't any opening credits whatsoever. No title of the movie or any actors names. The first thing you see on the screen is a giant 1933 in bold white letters, and then some statements about the depression. The opening scene is a jail breakout led by yours truly Johnny Depp. You have to see this movie to believe how great it looks. The way it was shot was different than a lot of movies coming out now a days. The whole Michael Mann, handheld camera in your face is there and works like magic. The cast is phenomenal. Johnny Depp and Christian Bale are both on top of their game in this movie.
What I don't understand is why they are trying to get people to see this movie for actors like Channing Tatum who is literally in the movie for 30 seconds in Christian Bale's first scene where he is chasing down Tatum's Pretty Boy Floyd. All the bank robbery scenes are filmed so well and the shootouts in the streets are so insane! The gunshots are so realistic and so ridiculously loud!
There is a scene close to the end of the film where Christian Bale's character and the FBI try to ambush Johnny Depp and his mobster crew at their Wisconsin hideout in the woods, and let me tell you, it is ubelieveable! You are literally on the edge of your seat thinking, "Holy shit, are they really doing this right now?" Obviously I won't tell you how the woods shootout ends, but I will say this, Stephen Graham who plays Baby Face Nelson is THE MAN!
Whether or not you know how John Dillinger's story comes to an end, you will be in awe at the end of this movie!
Sorry I kept this extremely spoiler free, but honestly, you don't wanna know anything about this movie before you treat your eyes to a gloirious treat. You just have to see it and love it. This is one of the greatest gangster flicks I have ever seen in a very long time. I highly reccommend this film and hope some of you can get a chance to see another screening of it soon.
If you use this, please call me The Bardy Party.
Lastly we have this negative - which is left questioning a lot of the film. But through his negatives, I have to say - it sounds like Mann is getting Dillinger right. The press would play him as a killer and a Robin Hood. But the reality was... he was a stone cold killer. A handsome one, a notorious lover... and mean with a Tommy Gun!
SexyWhisk here again.
I saw all these "Public Enemies" reviews - and they got me miffed. I was there too and these reviews were clearly written by plants or hardcore Mann-iacs. For I think if any other director made this overlong period turd - they would be giving it a lot more flack.
Don't get me wrong - the film's not HORRIBLE - but it's certainly only made for 1930s gangster fans and hardcore Michael Mann fans. The rest of you will be disappointed.
Let me start with the one thing Mann does right. The Tommy Gunn shoot out. Freaking amazing. The rat-a-tat-tat of the tommy guns blaring against trees and storefronts is fantastic. Picture Heat in the 30's. But these scenes are few and far between. There are maybe 4 or 5 of them in the two and half hour running time.
The rest of the time we're stuck with the massively underdeveloped Christian Bale - who's character lacks anything of substance, therein making it incredibly hard to feel anything for him. And you have Depp who does a decent job, but does far from anything mind-blowing or game-changing.
In the beginning of the film Dillinger (Depp) falls for Marion Cotillard after staring at her from across the room. Her nonexistent "darker skin" that he speaks of, makes her his true love - and every scene between the two of them felt completely forced and non-sensical to me. Sadly their weak "love story" becomes a major player in the story.
Which brings me to the main problem I had with this early version of the film. Even the comment cards passed out at the end asked "what is the plot of this movie?" Is it Dillinger vs the world, Dillinger vs Purvis (Bale), Dillinger and his Love? For me it was a poor mix of all them without one clear story to cling on to.
I'll admit I didn't know much about Dillinger before going in. But after walking out all I'm left to assume - is that he was a pretty boy, somewhat quiet toughie, who robbed banks. Yet the film's portrayal constantly puts him next to "badder guys who shoot innocents" and has him "punching the mean guy at the coat check desk who's waiting for the girl to stop talking to Dillinger and get him his coat" - all these not so subtle story points try to make the audience think "ah he wasn't that bad a guy" - but he was clearly a bad guy. He killed a ton of people and he stole bank's money for HIS gain. He was no Robin Hood. I wish they would have given us more of a fair reason why he wasn't a bad guy - or just made him more of a bad guy - rather than BS mid-ground playing both sides.
With a two and half hour movie there needs to be a clear person to root for - Look at American Gangster - a much lesser known tale which made you root for Denzel Washington, while also seeing all the shady evil he had inside of him - Depp's Dillinger doesn't come even close to that sort of performance. And Bale has absolutely no story whatsoever. It's almost as if Mann cut it all out in fear of the public's sudden opinion of Bale screaming at that DP on T4. Anyone could have given Bale's performance.
Here's hoping this early cut gets MUCH tighter, and helps establish more between the Bale and Depp drama. SexyWhisk out.
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And yes, Miami Vice kicks ass.
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and for Bale to tell Dilinger that their professional life is OVER.
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Man, Bale will never live that shit down. And that's a good thing.
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I heard he was a young light tweaker with a very weak resume.
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one to look forward to this year, just hope Mann got the Hancock stuff out of his system.
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just noticed he's in it, wonder if he tried to coax Depp and Bale to his cult
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Feb 13, 2009 11:39:51 AM CST
Anything new about the adaptation of S. Kings Dillinger story?
by ev1ldead
The Death Of Jack Hamilton
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your name rocks because anything tower related rocks
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That can't even remember, let alone type, the name "Melvin Purvis." As for usefulness, tits on a bull, man.
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Agreed on Mann and Miami Vice.
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Thankee sai, and yes anything Tower related does indeed rock dude, I pray J.J Abrams won't fuck up the movie if he ever gets round to doing it
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. . . but only about the TV SHOW.
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"I'm a fiend for mojitos."PLEASE.And we all know that RowdyRoddyStriper (aka BraneRobot, AnimalStructure, ThunderBalls, etc.) is the kind of guy who watches the .50 caliber scene from MIAMI VICE on a repeating loop.
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Feb 13, 2009 11:51:42 AM CST
That being said, Michael Mann is one hell of a director...
by mr. nice gaius
...and I'm sure he wouldn't have tolerated any DP/Bale episodes like McG.
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He's my favorite director, and like the reviewer wrote, action directors should watch his movies. He lets the action play out, instead of relying on quick cuts (aka Bay, aka McG aka etc). This has become my most anticipated non-superhero/toy/sequel movie of 2009. Can't wait!
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Marvel Dark Tower: Spectacular comic, or candy-colored crap?
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is like the "other" Christopher Nolan -- really tense direction, a great grasp of audience emotion. What do you think? If Nolan stepped out of the Batman shoes, should Mann fill them? Could he fill them?
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Do another period pieced ala Last of the Mohicans...God what a great movie! I really don't know what happened on Miami Vice...should have been an easy homerun. Some of the action - esp at the end was amazing though!
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Nolan pretty much tried to matched Heat with TDK, so Mann could step in.
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I forgot about that -- he did say "Heat" was a major influence. Man, those guys are friggin' awesome. Who would be a good superhero fit for Mann?
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Could one of these people that writes one of these let us know how the movie looks in Digital??? Does it work with the material?
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it's still pretty damn entertaining. But it could have been so much more. Last of the Mohicans is awesome. His most underrated movie. Check out 'Thief' his first movie. It's with James Cann, and made in the early 80's. It has style.
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fuck, his acting in This is England is some of the most realistic natural acting i've ever seen.
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Ahhhhh to DREAM! Man, ol' man that would be a movie.
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Both the TV show and the Movie.
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Hear me out: Brainiac in the next film with Doomsday being his creation -- he kills Supes, and that sets up the Return for the following movie. Mann could definitely make Brainiac one cold, heartless bastard. I think you would feel the alienation of Brainiac, and the sadness of Superman's death.
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I have been meaning to read them, not alot of comic book stores near where I live so I've been trying to find anything about them online,
they seem ok from what I've seen, but I was always more of a Manga comics fan more than Marvel or DC,
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Christan Bale is going to kick your fucking ASS!
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you are so fucking right. that scene when that girl rejects him after coming out of prison...I felt every fucking frame of that.
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On some levels. They fill the gap between "Wizard..." and DTI. They really go from when Roland leaves Mejis to when the last stand on Jericho hill occurs. My biggest disappointment is the art -- I really wanted to SEE Mejis. The story, however, is pretty awesome. Robin Furth, the writer (who's King's DT assistant as well) gives these awesome backstories about the history of Roland's World, and you learn a shitload about the Wastelands, The Crimson King, Rhea of The Coos. They're worth is because they're DT material. Still have several other issues to go, and it seems like, just now, they're starting to get good. Before they were all just...okay. But lately, Furth has been picking up steam and we're really seeing how Marten Broadcloak plays Gabrielle Deschain to get back at Stephen and Roland Deschain. Plus, Cort has a daughter -- a female gunslinger that's turned into a pretty decent character.
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That's basically what we got with Dark Knight. It was Heat with comic book characters! But yeah, Mann would definitely be my choice to take over if Nolan decided to drop out.
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He's stellar in everything he does, even the small roles.
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You've probably seen it, Darth Kaos. As others have alluded to, it was called "The Dark Knight." Honestly, I was one of the select few geeks that didn't fall head over heels for TDK(liked it, didn't unabashedly love it), and I think a lot of that stems from the fact that it skirted a little too close to "Heat" on numerous occasions. Nolan considers it an homage, but to me it seemed a little more like riffing. But for pipe dreams' sake, if Mann did make a Batman film, I'd sure as hell love to see him make the "Dark Victory" to Nolan's "Long Halloween." Two-Face still alive, so far over the edge that he's now fighting for Falcone and Maroni's mob territories... it'd be awesome. Michael Mann is gold to me. "Manhunter" and "Heat" are both in my top-10 of all time, and Mann never lets me down with his psychological and visual dissections, his amazing ensemble casts, and his beautiful photography. Can't wait for "Public Enemies."
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The gunfight in HEAT was the best I've ever seen.
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This is a movie that will fuck your eyes out in 2009. Love Bale & Depp. This is gonna rock hard.
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I'm deffo going to check them out then, thanks buddy,
And wasn't Mann going to direct Hancock? But stayed a producer for some reason, I would have enjoyed seeing his version on that movie, And yea "SuperMANN" would be awesome -
I wanted Mann to use that hyper-real digital look he used for Collateral and Miami Vice. Said look applied to a period piece would have been nuts. Oh well. I'll still enjoy it very much, I'm sure.
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for me, was a pretty decent movie. I don't know Mann's hand enough to see it in the film, but it's pretty intense at parts. He would kill if he decided to make a superhero movie.
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love them
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What do you think of the art? Does Jae Lee do Roland's world justice?
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Let the voting begin. (And I know Cameron will probably win the popular vote, but look at Mann's resume... Miami Vice is really the only movie some consider bad. I still vote for Cameron though. He's gotten closer to perfection more times with Aliens Terminator 1 and 2.
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But colour me super interested in this. Depp, Mann, and the Chosen ONE - I worship at the Church of Bale. See node 39976 for details Fucken Ass!
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till the last 20 odd mins, it just bored me for some reason, I don't want to turn this into a Tower TB but
whats your verdict on the ending? I've read alot of dissapointed comments but for me it was perfect, I like to think him having the Horn of Jericho hill gives hope, sort of like each time he's one step closer to totaly fixing the Tower maybe, I don't know, been a while since I finished it, and I'm always an optimist But recently finished Insomnia which started of poo but got quite good about a third in, supposedly its "the keystone book relating to The Dark Tower series"? -
If you're going to post epic Bale shit, you need to do it proper in Node 39976. You can be part of history, today we break the 6000 mark.
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that the last 20 minutes was odd. I wasn't completely pleased with the ending, but King prefaced the ending by saying that you don't have to know what happens because it may not please you. There could not have been any other ending, I think. Insomnia wasn't a great book, but because it's attached to the DT, you see how important it becomes.
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Or the Tree Party? Geesh...
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In Bruges was good, borderline great, Colin Farrell. Yes, he's a good looking guy. But he plays better against type as a bit of a goofball. James Franco is the same way. Michael Mann directed the shit out of Vice, but I think he was done in by his casting choices. You could just feel Farrell and Foxx straining to be cool. The whole point of the original was that Sonny was effortlessly cool.
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Heat remains probably the last GOOD movie that DeNiro and Pacino did. OK, MAYBE CopLand and Jackie Brown, but DeNiro was GREAT in Heat and he looked so cool as well. The blue lighting, the smooth apartment, the furniture, dropping the keys on the glass table. Nobody makes a movie look smooth as silk like Mann. I put Boorman and Excalibur in the category and Lean as well...As for Pacino, come to think of im talking out my ass, he really was just playing a caricature of himself in this movie. Insomina and to a lesser degree Brasco was MUCH better. Pacino hasnt really been vintage since the 70's. I love when Baldwin rips on Al on Inside the Actors Studio. God, Baldwin is a fucking funny man...
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..if you want to know what's at the top of the Tower, and even warns you. I wonder if anybody actually never read past that part?
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that's all you have to say, the man has never made a bad movie. I held off on Miami Vice because I heard it was crap, watched it and it's fun. Is it a Mann classic, no, but it is really good
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Feb 13, 2009 1:13:51 PM CST
Michael Mann also gave me a thing of popcorn he didn't want.
by future help
Too much butter. Oh wait, that was Mike Bay.
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Feb 13, 2009 1:15:16 PM CST
Wasn't Last of the Mohicans directed by Ridley Scott?
by pissed off and bitter
I'm pretty sure it was. Mann's a great director but doesn't know how to end his films. Heat was the GREATEST crime story ever but the ending sucked hardcore. Collateral was good up until a cabbie took out a PROFESSIONAL hitman. That was dumb and unbelievable, I don't care how messed up you are, the hitman will ALWAYS take out the cabbie.
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Feb 13, 2009 1:16:27 PM CST
please don't make Giovanni Ribisi stare at the blue diamond
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again.
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yup.
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Cameron: Titanic, Abyss, Aliens, T1, T2 and True Lies are all fucking GOOD moveis..yes, Titanic too, Titanic is a good movie, I dont give a fuck what you say, but the man hasnt been relevant in 12 years...Mann: fucking Thief, just a great movie, Manhunter, Mohicans, Heat, Insider, Ali, Collateral....its very close but Id say Cameron has hit more homeruns, I mean Ali and Collateral were.....ok, i guess. My vote by a nose to Brokeback Motherfucking Aquaman
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Rye and Coke all the way.
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104691/
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...and Tom Collateral was fucking awesome.
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A blue diamond reference? I thought I was the only one who saw that movie. Can't wait for Frankie Machine in 2010 with DeNiro...who hasn't been Awesometown in anything since Heat -- my Gone with the Wind.
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Feb 13, 2009 1:34:26 PM CST
Name a better Cop movie in the last 5 years other than Miami Vic
by somashine
You cant..The End..STFU
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Feb 13, 2009 1:34:39 PM CST
The first reviewer gave Depp, and Rabisi props...but not Bale?
by outlaw
Miami vice would have been better had it not been titled Miami Vice...still, it was a pretty entertaining flick. Jesus, look at the man's creds: LOTM, Heat, collateral, the Insider...this guy directs his movies with major scrote! I hope Frankie Machine will be a good one, as De Niro has been off his game as of late.
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Are you a junkie? Do you have Harry's cock in your match. Two words stinky britches:
THE DEPARTED
nuff said.........
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.. is a like a WKW movie with balls.. giant mann balls. Never seen Thief or Ali (hard to watch When We Were Kings and then imagine Will Smith as Ali) but everything else he's done is fucking amazing. Anyone worried about the different time period, just remember that the opening of LOTM is better than 99% of the shit Hollywood spluges on us each year.
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thats do you have Harry's cock in your MOUTH.....
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.. most definitely did not direct LOTM...
Top three major hollywood directors with BALLS
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I can't believe someone would complain about the ending to Heat. Starting from where De Niro turns off the freeway b/c he can't just let go all the way to where De Niro and Pacino embrace via hand shake. Not to mention the amazing Moby score playing in the background. Basically saying that these two professionals respect the crap out of eachother and would have been best friends had things turned out differently. De Niro gets props for his acting too, especially his facial expressions when he realizes he has made it, but then realizes it is not in him not to get payback. Brilliant!
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Feb 13, 2009 2:23:34 PM CST
"only made for 1930s gangster fans and hardcore Michael Mann fan
by mgmax
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As opposed to what, only made for slackjawed 19-year-old torture porn fans and crude sex comedy devotees like 90% of what's out there? What exactly is the problem with it being made for people who can appreciate it, exactly? The Godfather, only made for fans of utterly absorbing Mafia sagas!
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so far...
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sooooo...no giant robots then?
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They filmed a bank robbery here in Oshkosh, Wisconsin where Depp took a woman hostage, pulling her by the hair and shooting a tommy gun all over the place at the cops in and on top of buildings across from it. Depp, Bale and Dorf were here.
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I could be wrong, but i'm almost positive.
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Feb 13, 2009 3:00:46 PM CST
I was there for some of the filming in downtown Milwaukee.
by kid idioteque
We didn't see much, but I had an encounter with some fucking crazy Depp fans. I was with an off-duty Milwaukee cop and we hung around for a little while. It was like 10 at night and they were shooting some interior scenes. These ugly bitches a few feet away were arguing about who knew more about Johnny (they were all in their 30s, mind you). Then I was asking for directions to the freeway as we were about to leave, and one of the girls was eavesdropping and thought we had inside info. They started hounding us and we fucked with them for 5 minutes. Told em we had just been inside and that they just missed Johnny walking down the sidewalk... which we later found out was true. But screwing with them was hilarious. Then we got to hang out around Michael Mann's trailer and apparently I got too close and was almost tackled by his bodyguard. All was cool after we explained who we were, but that was scary. Apparently Mann was in the trailer or had just been in there with Johnny. Moral of the story - hardcore Johnny Depp fans are weirdos. And don't go too close to Michael Mann's trailer.
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Mr. Phil Connors... I DESPISED Transformers and have no interest in Part 2
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X-Men vs the Marauders. And Mann's Punisher would have made too much sense I guess.
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Feb 13, 2009 3:31:16 PM CST
11th Appostle St Saul of Caprica wants the 6000th post!!!
by col. tigh-fighter
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LOLLAGE
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Did Mann have any of the popcorn before he handed it to you? Did he take like 2 or 3 handfuls, say "Damn, this Popcorn is shit!" and toss it. Did he ask if you wanted to have it or just say "Here take this." Did he just want you to hold it while he had a sip of his coke, and you ate some and he didn't want it anymore? Damn the suspense is torturing me!
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Ha, that's pretty cool. You should of seen what it was like here, arrests up the ass, crazy chubby emo and juggalette chicks going apeshit. It was bad, the coolest thing though was we got to like watch the scene live action. Everybody else didnt get to see what I saw, me and my friend found an alley with a latter to the roof and we managed to lay undetected on our bellies and watch the whole scene sky view. It was friggin cool.
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Fuck's sake, it looks amateur. Kidding, of course. Mann kicks ass.
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Well then God bless you, sir.
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Have you seen the guy? He was one ugly muthafucka.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Forgot about that one.
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is that there are onle 4 or 5 huge shootouts, then I think I'm sold. they'll make Bad Boys 3 eventually, I like to let a movie take it's time sometimes. especially if Johnny Depp and Christian Bale are on screen and Mann is directing.
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I did not root for Denzel's character in American Gangster. I will like this movie.
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Miami Vice is one of the absolute worst movies I've seen in my life. I've never walked out of a theatre, but really wanted to during that ridiculously stupid, loud, and long shoot out towards the end.
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....I'm still going to see it.
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That was way ahead of it's time. Sure there was some bad writing in places, sure some of the acting was inconsistent, but not from Farrell or any of the main players. The worst was all their partners, save Justin Theroux. The guy from Entourage, the spanish chick, and the black chick, were all terrible. That said, the film is shot masterfully, and is a real adult film, which we don't get anymore, at all. A movie about adults for adults. Tom Towles as Coleman the Skinhead was awesome.
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Love the Mann - Miami Vice being his only miss. Maybe he was slipped some Red Yoda, c'est la vie.
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That's what Bale wants you to think. Because he is kind.
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this shits fucking amateur....
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A testament to Christian Bale's unprecedented professionalism. A lesser amateur would not have gotten a meeting with Mann after McG.
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The Baleback is his Queen.
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Feb 13, 2009 10:26:49 PM CST
Mgmax...I agree, that "1930s Gangster fans" comment is
by bob cryptonight
deeply idiotic! When I read that I started laughing out loud! WTF???
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Bale shot this BEFORE he started on T4 ... if anyone was going to drive CB over the edge it was Mann ... it didn't happen ... that is a testament to what a colossal asshole hurlbut is ...
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Giovanni Ribisi is amazing.
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FUCKEN' AMATEURS!
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Feb 13, 2009 10:55:32 PM CST
Any movie featuring the discharging of a Tommy Gun...
by nasty in the pasty
...is automatically cool.
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Remember Node 39976 and keep it holy
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It's true.
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A: Hurl-Butts
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Damn You Michael Bay
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Maybe the film gives that impression but in reality Dilliger only shot in self-defence and is responsible for (maybe) killing 1 person. History is very iffy due to conflicting accounts but what is clear is that the majority of the violence associated with Dillinger came from his gang, notably Baby Face Nelson who killed 3 FBI agents and Homer Van Meter who was the true leader of the gang.
Regarding PUBLIC ENEMIES, the 2 leads seem miscast. John Dillinger was a tall, rough mid-westerner with an athletic build while Melvin Purvis was a slight southern gentleman (only 5'7") who spoke meekly and was a essentially a lawyer. Depp and Bale should've switched roles. I've read several books on Dillinger and Purvis (read VENDETTA written by Alston Purvis, his son) and long to see a true version of the events. Mann would not have to stretch any of the events to make an entertaining film. I hope this is it. -
With big happy grin on my mug.
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...So for me its a hard sell already. I don't think I've ever seen a movie of his that I thought was any good at all. The shoot out in Heat was nice. The photography at the trailer park in Miami Vice was alright. Manhunt wasn't as shitty as Red Dragon...Thats about it. Actually Mohicans didn't have any guys with gay facial hair, ugly grey suits or black leather jackets or synth, so thats a plus.
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We aren't living in Idiocracy yet. "Lets take it to the limit, one more time". All said while playing dress up in the FHM version of a drug enforcement agency. Its truly one of the shittiest, most embarassing studio films of the decade. It should have massive camp value in a few years.
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That genius has made not one single disappointing/lame movie. Talk about track record.
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Dillinger was 5'7, 5'8 at the absolute most...just saying...since Depp and Bale are both like 6 feet, it's pretty much a typical hollywood stretch (pun intended), not a miscast...
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Has got to be a plant!
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The scenes (like the boating across the Florida Straits) that lasts five times too long, to the point that you're looking back and forth from the screen to your watch, thinking, why the fuck are we still watching this shit when we got the point awhile ago? Or the completely unmemorable dialogue? Or the run-of-the-mill gunfights? That movie was shit. Unleashing a combination Wolverine / Edward Scissorhands into the editing bay wouldn't even produce a more entertaining, tighter movie.
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News Report just in from the BaleBack...
Shane Hurlbut's entire working output subpoena'd by High Court Judge.
Juror's spend five months examining his lighting with a fine tooth comb.
The media assemble for the judges ruling with a record TV audience of 6 billion viewers around the world.
"I judge the defendant a fucking amateur" states the senior High Court Judge, before adding "Mr Bale, you have fuckin something to say to this prick?"
The tumultuous applause of six billion humans actually knocks the Earth out of orbit as with a grim smile Bale begins his rant from the very beginning...
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Can't believe all the Mann-lovers on this site. I never would have guessed that so many of you geeks prefer style over substance.
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Feb 14, 2009 12:40:36 PM CST
I want Giavonni Ribisi to autior my preclear with his giant retr
by iforgotabout19
I don't give a shit if Ribisi got suckered by scientology, he is one of my absolute favorite character actors, knowing he's in a movie always makes me want to see it more. I think this will kick ass in general, but knowing Ribisi has a substantial role actually puts me in a rush to see it.
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YOU WANT ME TO TRASH YOUR LIGHTS? YOU WANT ME TO TRASH EM? FUCK!!!
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Who do you think which bytheway? Filming
The film, shot on location in the Caribbean, South America, and South Florida, lost seven days of filming to Hurricanes Katrina, Rita, and Wilma.[6] The delays led to a budget of what some insiders claimed to be over $150 million, though Universal Studios says it cost $135 million.[2] Several crew members criticized Mann's decisions during production, which featured sudden script changes, filming in unsafe weather conditions, and choosing locations that "even the police avoid, drafting gang members to work as security."[2]
Foxx was also characterized as unpleasant to work with. Foxx refused to fly commercially, forcing Universal to give him a private jet. Foxx would not participate in scenes on boats or planes. After gunshots were fired on set in the Dominican Republic on October 24, 2005, Foxx packed up and refused to return; this forced Mann to re-write the ending of the film, an ending that some crew members characterized as less dramatic than the original.[2] Foxx, who won an Academy Award after signing to do Miami Vice, was also reputed to complain about co-star Farrell's larger salary, something Foxx felt didn't reflect his new status as an Oscar winner. Foxx received an increase in salary to match Farrell's. It was also reported that Foxx demanded top billing after winning an Oscar.[2]
Mann wanted a movie that was as real as it was stylish and even put Colin Farrell in jeopardy by bringing him along (with real FBI drug squads) to drug busts so Farrell could build up the character of Crockett even more.
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some people hate him - personally i like pretty much any filmmaker who makes intelligent output (Heat, The Insider, Last of the Mohicans - except that "I'll find you" speech) that treats adult audiences as if they have brains. Stylish cinematography and production design, long sequences with characters staring meaningfully out to sea with a blue haze filter on the lens, long running time....etc THAT'S Michael Mann. When he doesn't go with his indulgences (say 'Collateral' for example) the fans shit all over him for not making his usual kind of fare....what can a iconic filmmaker do? Personally i like his stuff - I even watched 'The Keep'....that's right the whole fucking thing.
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Feb 14, 2009 8:00:05 PM CST
but it's certainly only made for 1930s gangster fans and hardcor
by burgerking
SO what this guy is saying that if you hate Michael Mann and you hate gangster movies then this movie will suck for you. O REALLY? Thanks for the tip helpful reviewer. Wouldn't have imagined that one.
This just in: if you don't like science fiction and if you don't like James Cameron, you won't like Avatar! You have been warned!! -
Mann, you're a nice guy but FUCKKKKK!!
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The two final action scenes were fucking badass! Mann has really studied real weapons tactics...almost everything Tom Cruise does in Collateral is by the book authentic LE/Military tactics...
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My Daddy used to tell me stories about the times John Dillinger and his bunch would occasionally hide out in at a farmhouse in Bowler, or Townend, Wisconsin, which is not far from where I’ve lived my whole life.
- Seems whenever Dillinger showed up, word spread quickly and all the kids would rush out to the place to see for themselves. After all, he was the equivalent to today’s Rock stars in fame at the time. Not to mention, his troupe were never lacking for beautiful “Big-City” women that always travelled with them.
- Dad would say when he got there, there would be 3 or 4 brand new shiny cars parked with the trunks open, and when you walked by you could see some of them loaded with suitcases and others with shotguns, handguns and Thompson machine guns. Dillinger himself would joke around for a minute with the kids and then offer each one a buck to take the luggage into the house.. At that time, a dollar to a kid was like a hundred bucks now.
- When people say that Dillinger wasn’t a “Robin Hood”, well, all I’ve ever been told was, he was very generous to the locals, and they always looked forward to his visits. So that should tell you something.
- I am Looking forward to seeing this movie, and even had a niece work on it as a staff photographer while parts of it were being made in Oshkosh, Appleton and Little Bohemia.
- Oh, one more trivia fact in the weird Dillinger connection of my parents….My mother lived two blocks from the Biograph Theater and used to go there all the time during the same period when Dillinger was gunned down by Purvis. Although, being a child, she only went on Saturday afternoons, so she did not see the actual event.
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If you think Mann is all style over substance then you've never really bothered to sit down and actually watch a Michael Mann movie. For if you had, you wouldn't make such an idiotic comment. There is always just as much substance as style in a Mann movie.
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Do you want me to trash your fucking lights?
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The point I was trying to make is casting a slight pretty boy like Johnny Depp to play tough, rugged gangster John Dillinger and tough guy Christian Bale to play a slight intellectual southern gentleman like Melvin Purvis is like casting Megan Fox as Ma Barker and Meryl Streep (now) as Bonnie Parker. It simply seems wrong. I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt & see PUBLIC ENEMIES but I've seen pics of Depp as Dillinger and he doesn't have any resemblence at all. And if Bale/Purvis comes off as an action hero then the movie is another attempt to mythologize real people. I'm more looking forward to seeing the portrayal of J Edgar Hoover because he was using Dillinger to promote the Bureau as an effective agency when really Hoover was an egomaniac who tried to edit Purvis' credit out of FBI history.
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"Anyone could have given Bale's performance"... FUCK OFF
This movie will own 2009. -
the movie sucks - you'll all see
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