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What's this? GEMINI MAN back to life? And Curtis Hanson is up for directing?
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. I remember back probably 9 or 10 years ago I read a script for GEMINI MAN (I'm pretty sure it was the Jonathan Hensleigh draft), a sci-fi thriller about an aging assassin who leaves the business only to have his bosses send a young assassin after him... Pretty well-worn formula, right? The twist is that this young assassin is a clone of the middle-aged one.
At the time Mel Gibson was attached to star. I don't know why it didn't happen for sure, but I suspect the effects at the time couldn't support the story.
The concept is perfect for an aging action star or huge A-list personality who has been in the business for most of his life. And it seems that's where this rebirth of the story is going. I suspect it all came about by seeing what Fincher was able to do with Brad Pitt in BENJAMIN BUTTON. That scene in the dance studio where we see 18 year old Brad Pitt... I guarantee that's what they're grabbing on to and trying to recreate here on a bigger scale.
I have no idea who they're going after now. I'd love to see Mel actually come back to the project, but I have no idea if that ship has sailed. Maybe Bruce Willis? That'd be pretty great, I think. Bald Willis vs. Widow's Peak Willis.
Curtis Hanson (LA CONFIDENTIAL, WONDERBOYS) is in talks to direct according to Hollywood Reporterand I'd be glad to see him pump out another really good flick. I love Hanson, but he's a wildly uneven director. Sometimes he gives us LA CONFIDENTIAL, sometimes he gives us IN HER SHOES. I think with the right material he has a great eye and makes great stuff.
Jerry Bruckheimer is producing alongside Don Murphy, who originally set-up the property in the '90s.
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...after the mess that was THE 6TH DAY!
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I thought Gemini Man was about a spy who can turn invisible for 15 minutes at a time.
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Work on it!
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People were really excited to see Old Ford vs Han Solo Ford... Of course that was before he quit trying...
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I thought Gemini Man was about a spy who had a hook for a hand?
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...Gemini Man was one of the Villains in Mega Man 3.
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What a wretched movie. Probably his worst. Essentially a remake of Total Recall...but w/ terrible effects, action, script, and boring as fuck. I still don't understand how the biggest action star in the world could have gone ten years w/ out being able to find ONE decent script...Thank god he left the business.
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I agree! Where do I start?? The editing, the crappy non event feel, the weak action, the dumb Home Alone type bad guys, the wanting to be "Total Recall" but for a family audience...etc...this film should have been dtv period! But because Arnie is such a huge star, it came out in November (huge month) and had decent advertising.
Still, the film flopped like it should have. From the get go, Arnie (who produced this film) wanted it to be a PG-13 rated watered down film. I remember TAFS doing a poster scoop on this film and they had Arnie holding the lazer gun and others without. The article basically said Arnie didn't want a gun on the poster.
What is the phrase again...BE TRUE TO THY SELF
Arnie should have been true to himself and remember his audience is mostly hard core males who want guns and violence. Even if the film was PG-13 , it could have been amazing. But alas, it is a dtv sci-fi action film that bores you after you've seen it once.
What was Arnold thinking??? TOTAL RECALL is a sci-fi action fans wet dream...but THE 6TH DAY is just a pretender trying to be TOTAL RECALL 2.
Can you imagine if Arnie made TR2 with Jonathan Frakes at these times when he wanted less violence in his films. This film is why I never want to see a sequel to Total Recall...ever!
This gets 3 out of 10 stars. -
CAGE is a boring actor that picks bad movies these days...please don't clone two of him for this film BRUCKHEIMER. Or HARRISON 'I want 25 million or no deal' FORD!
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Almost the same plot.Not the seventies one. Nowhere man.
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Mad Max vs bat shit crazy Jew hating Mel? Fucking bliss!
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BRUCKHEIMER worked with him many times so he will most likely get this. I would personally love to see young CLINT vs. old crazy CLINT!
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Yeah I do remember that deal over the poster... The weirdest thing about the movie was that they didn't even do any prod design for the movie...just filmed it in Vancouver. Yet it was supposed to be a futuristic movie. They spent alot of money making that movie too...not sure where all the money went, cuz it def was not on screen. I'll take arnie's bad B grade 80's action movies like Raw Deal (where he plays an italian lol) over that shit fest any day!
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Cool prod design, set in the distant future, w/ a really talented director. Curtis Hansen peaks my interest, but I think he may have blown his one load w/ the brilliant LA Confidential (probably my fav film of the last ten years). I hope he can do this right...
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http://www.aintitcool.com/node/4000 All you have to do is ask Orcus :). BTW congrats on the script if Orcus heard correctly
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Feb 13, 2009 10:04:53 AM CST
Charlie_Allnut, an 80 million movie that looked like 35 million.
by abking
THE 6TH PIECE OF CRAP (that should be the title) was a trite, pathetic action film trying to be an Arnold blockbuster. The effects are so lame in this flick that I laugh...and two girly-man Arnold's...WTF!
The film would have been amazing had both Arnold's killed the bad guys and then shot themselves for being in such a bad film. And like you said, where that 80 million went is anyones clue...maybe in ARNOLD'S bank account, LOL. -
As soon as they release the cloned Bickle... movie over in 10 seconds.
I'd like to see Susan Sarandon as a grandmother with a huge family having to deal with this young vibrant version of her former self. That could be fun... or not.
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At least Sly seems like he still has a love for film...after going on hiatus for about ten to fifteen years. The rest of the old guard has no spark left in them (Clint being the exception, of course he is the OG).
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then we could finally get the movie we've been waiting for all our lives. Bickle VS Michael Corleone in Godfather II.
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Tom just starting to look his age now, maybe he'll use it to his advantage in this.
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I dig that he's willing to try anything. Although I definitely dig L.A. Confidential and Wonder Boys more than the others...
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The master and the apprentice, and a great ending.
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SLY is on a roll and so is EASTWOOD...I think the new out of office ARNOLD will make only solid movies here-on-out! And yeah Cruise does look older now...make the best of it.
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You got my 10 bucks with that.
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Fucked.
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Charles Bronson did not get the respect he deserved. I think it was all those Death Wish Sequels eroded his credibility.
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The twist... he's the 14 tear old boy.
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I'd see that.
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...after RAMBO. It never came to be.
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Everyone wins.
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Because everyone loved 8 mile, right? It could be all about this young blonde guy trying to make it in the hood as a rap star, but he's white, and he hates being white. So it could be a hiphop assassin, and he has to fight himself right in the middle of his big show, but it turns out his big show is what ultimatley ruins his life, so he goes back in time to kill himself before he can win the big contest. It's gold. I'm telling you, a 100 million dollar opening weekend right there boys and girls. one hundred million.
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But it's not called Gemini Man, I can't remember the name. I think that its from the point of view of the assassin though, and he doesn't know he's the clone of the guy he's hunting.
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That's a blast from the past. Damn... I hope I'm a better writer now than I was then...
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like the young assassin is a total bum who abuses his kid
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The original script by Darren Lemke is still the best - in my opinion.
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"Visible"--get it? get it? See what I did there?
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Yep Orcus has seen all in his travels, even your first post. Orcus pointed out Mori's first post when he was working on his "Best of" Thread. Do you plan on such a thing?
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Wasn't he attached to this way back??
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Sooner or later, someone will get the brilliant idea to remake the '70's TV series Gemini Man. Just slap a ginger afro wig on Shia and you're good to go!
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Feb 13, 2009 4:08:36 PM CST
C'mon guys -- this would be perfect for Clint Eastwood
by prof. pop-cult
The difference in appearance between the young Clint Eastwood and current senior citizen one is obvious -- Clint hasn't had outrageous plastic surgery done. And if Eastwood were to be the star of this, the script would probably be rewritten to be a far deeper, existentialist character study than just a mere action flick with a high concept gimmick.
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He was great in the Devil's Advocate.
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Toby Stephens played the 'young Clint' in Space Cowboys and the resemblance was uncanny!
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They're raping your young adulthood. Maybe they should remake "Alias Smith and Jones". Depp as Smith, Pitt as Jones, and Tommy Cruise as their horse.
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was attached to this project once. Time to do it this time.
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He downloaded himself!
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ten to fifteen years ago. The guy is almost 80 though. Lets be honest he aint gonna be doing any full blown sci fi action movies. My vote is for Mel Gibson. Or even Harrison Ford, but I don't think he has the passion for acting anymore to turn in a decent performance...
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Now, Lucky You...*that* was a crap Curtis Hanson movie. Pretty much the ONLY crap Hanson movie since L.A. Confidential.
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saved on FX would end up in their pockets. Look at the old Dirty Harry and his spaghetti westerns that is Hugh Jackman.
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or rumored for this years back as well. All the big stars were attached or rumored at one point or another. Connery's probably *just* a bit too old now to take this on (plus, I guess he's "retired", although we'll probably never know that for sure until he shuffles off this mortal coil). Eastwood, love him, but same deal, and I think he's pretty much done with 'action cinema' acting as well. I'd be willing to bet this will be offered to the following, in this order: Harrison Ford, Bruce Willis, Mel Gibson...and maybe Frank Langella, just for kicks :-) Stallone's actually carving out his own little latter-day career niche, and doesn't really need this. Godwilling, Schwarzie will still be 'governing' or considering King Conan (because they sure as hell don't seem to be able to get it moving with anyone else). Jackie Chan's Hollywood agent will show interest, but he'll be laughed off the phone.
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Ford will only be offered this because of his "renewed cultural cache" due to the huge box office success of Indy IV. However, Indy IV's critical and geek reception i s what will *truly* motivate Ford in this case, as working with Hansen on a groundbreaking effects drama/thriller will be seen as the perfect way to critically 'redeem' his career so that his last big success is not known as 'the one that nuked the fridge.' ;-)
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...To just cast a younger guy and put him in old age make up. Or is this film built entirely around the gimmick of ageing a famous guy backwards. If so, thats pretty fucking lame.
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It will allow Ford to essentially pull a "Face/Off" and play "bad," something he (or any of these guys) have gotten to do very rarely -- yet it also offers the 'redeeming' power of the old-dog hero saving humanity from the evil, young upstart...when you think about it, it's so Republican... weird... ;-)
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They need at least a 50 year old ex heart throb action star who was big in the 80s (and is today) and who looks noticably different now (so no Cruise)
so Mel Gibson, Bruce Willis, Mickey Rourke, Richard Gere, Kurt Russel…even Harrison Ford...all look a lot different now to how they did in the 80s (especially Rourke - who will obviously be looking for a big fun action movie to follow Wresler to cement his comeback Downy Jnr style...esp since it looks like Iron Man 2 has fallen through........ plus itd give all the teenage girls of today the chance to see what all the fuss was about him in the 80s.....but then Gibson was pretty much king of all heart throbs in the 80s…and he needs to get back on top…hes been in Coventry long enough…this after Edge of Darkness could bring him back to the A list where he should be)
Connery or Eastwood wouldve been great 10 or even 5 years ago but are too old now (besides Connery is retired...shame it wasnt his movie swangsong instead of LXG)
Russel would be cool for movie fans (Snake Plissken/Mac vs Stuntman Mike) but i think theyd want a bigger name..
id say the top choices have got to be Rourke (esp now hes gonna win the oscar), Ford (Han Solo/Rick Deckard vs Crystal Skull Indy....hes rarely played a villian and is possibly looking for his action movie swangsong after Indy 4) and Gibson (Mad Max 1 Mel vs older Payback Mel - hes always seems to have been attached to this...in fact i seem to remember reading there was some CGI tests done with his 'Year of Living Dangerously' mug a while back) ....maybe Travolta as well (although maybe its abit too similar to Face/Off and watching Danny Zuko trying to off his older self would be kinda....funny)
I dont think Willis would be that interesting for some reason...maybe hes done too many action films that seeing him face off against his 1988 Die Hard self would be...... boring?
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Just cause Cruise doesn't age. Seriously they could remake Risky Business and just cast him again.
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Denny Crane vs. Where No Man Has Gone Before Shat…or even earlier - Twilight Zone/Judgement at Nurmenberg Shat
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i was reading American Psycho a while back and Cruise has a cameo in the novel (lives in the same apartment block as Bateman) and i remember thinking how cool it would have been if they'd filmed it for the movie...and as Cruise looked exactly the same in 2000 as he did in the 80s itd have worked just fine...
he looks a little older now but not enough to warrent being in this so it would be a complete waste to cast him...sorta like in the X3 opening when Patrick Stewart got out the car and looked exactly the same as he did later in the film just CGI 'smoothed' abit - they fucked that up actually cos Stewart looked nothing like the X3 opening in Dune and the early TNG seasons...for a start where were his dark eyebrows he had back then?!...its not as if ILM or whoever did the FX didnt have enough footage of him 20 years ago...i guess the technology wasnt quite there...heres hoping they get it right for 1984 Arnie in T4 and this film... -
Dudes like Cruise and Pitt always look younger than they are cos they keep their teenage hairlines (their heads of hair are like womens)…seriously if you get a receding hairline or worse you start looking your age and more - just look at Jude Law or Mel Gibson (although his face has aged something terrible the last few years - too much sun, smokes and booze no doubt)…Ledger was receding quite abit too - I guess thats why quite a few people thought he was a lot older than he was in TDK....
Whereas if you don’t recede then all you gotta do is slap on abit of moisturiser, eat well and exercise, stay out the sun and stay off the booze and smokes and you’ll always look about 5 or 10 years younger than you actually are…(providing you don’t have a ugly face..in which case no one gives a shit how you old you look or if your hairline is going ) -
Feb 14, 2009 3:56:28 PM CST
I thought GEMINI MAN was a follow up to THE LOVE GURU?
by bob cryptonight
Mike Meyers plays an astrologist who helps youngsters find a match...and in turn finds love with Cameron Diaz.
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But you can make a young actor look old.
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my sympathies.
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The world needs more rafting thrillers.
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I like that Curtis Hanson directs movies of varying genres, and he will make this a good thriller - otherwise, I vote for Michael Mann
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Just ask Jeff Bridges. Tr2n!
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