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Hercules Has Seen DOLLHOUSE, The First Television Series From BUFFY/ANGEL/FIREFLY Creator Joss Whedon In Five Years!!

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Tonight’s premiere of Joss Whedon’s “Dollhouse,” the tale of beautiful young people who repeatedly have memories extracted and implanted for fun and profit, turns out to be a big disappointment. It brims with giant ideas and cool Fox action but lacks the big laughs that lure many to Whedon’s work.

Also, I’m not sure its premise makes appreciably more sense than NBC’s similar, sillier “My Own Worst Enemy.” Were your young daughter abducted by kidnappers, would you hire seasoned negotiators or would you pay extra for a hot girl somehow programmed with the minds of seasoned negotiators? The Dollhouse organization, at least in the early going, doesn’t strike me as the greatest economic model.

(There’s more real-world dough, I’d imagine, in the other role Echo/Dushku plays tonight, that of somebody’s perfect, gorgeous, willing date.)

The kidnapping plot at the center of tonight’s episode, nowhere near as compelling as the one in “Ransom” or NBC’s “Kidnapped” pilot, too often feels like generic cop-show fodder.

The good news is episode two, which – among many other things – delves into a mystery tied to the Amy Acker character’s scars, turns out to be a big improvement.

Give the series points for being one of the stranger things on TV. Lead actress Eliza Dushku’s character, Echo, isn’t remotely the main character; Dushku spends most of her screen time playing different guest star roles each week. This makes for a great actressy showcase – but TV anthologies haven’t been popular for a while now, and it’s easier to build a rooting interest in a character who doesn't disappear for good after 30 minutes. The closest thing the series has to a regular main character is the handsome but troubled FBI agent (Tahmoh Penikett, also playing “Galactica” hero Karl Agathon on Friday nights) determined to prove the Dollhouse exists.

It took me more than a season to warm up to Whedon’s “Buffy The Vampire Slayer”; it took the sneery vampire Spike’s season-two introduction to convince me “Buffy” was actually the Best Show Ever. One of the things “Buffy,” “Angel” and “Firefly” have in common is each got considerably more interesting as it went along.

More reasons to stick around: Fox execs apparently took a heavy hand in “helping” Whedon fine-tune this series’ first episode (hopefully “Dollhouse’s” orginal, never-to-be-aired pilot will find its way onto a DVD or Blu-ray disc at some point), and future episodes are scripted by world-class TV writers like Jane Espenson (“Buffy,” “Battlestar Galactica”) and Tim Minear (“Angel,” “Wonderfalls”).

Entertainment Weekly gives it an “B-minus” and says:

… Dushku's acting is dexterous and beguiling. Given the artfully vague hints of an intriguingly desperate past for Echo, as well as Whedon's track record, we ought to cut the show some slack. Let's see if Whedon can bring this doll to greater life. …

USA Today gives it two and a half stars (out of four) and says:

… an empty-vessel premise that probably couldn't support a series even were it more adroitly cast … The result is a show that his most devoted fans will debate and embrace, and a mass audience just won't get. … We love you, Joss, but please, build something else.

Time Magazine says:

… If it weren't for Whedon's pedigree, I'm not sure I'd be dying to see a second episode. …

The New York Times says:

… has an amusing premise, but the universe it inhabits in the early episodes is thin and bland. The sinister corporation behind the Dollhouse is ill-defined, and the show’s main characters are one-dimensional, including the real-life dolls. …

The Los Angeles Times says:

… beyond disappointing. Overcrowded with plotlines, high-tech gimmicks and ambition yet empty of emotional connection and purpose, "Dollhouse" tries so hard to be so many things it winds up being nothing much at all. …

The Chicago Tribune says:

… is "Dollhouse" worth watching? Though Whedon fans no doubt want the answer to be a slam-dunk "yes," I can only, at this point, supply a more tentative "Yes, but …" …

The Washington Post says:

… a pretentious and risible jumble … Slices of mumbo don't come much more jumbo than this … it's enough to make one long for the days when TV dramas were criticized for being too pat, too predictable, too much like one another. Whedon, who directed the pilot, certainly dressed it up stylishly, but I'll take simple coherence over fancy-pants trappings any day. …

The San Francisco Chronicle says:

… a major disappointment. … judging from two additional episodes - one a step forward, the other a step back to the underwhelming quality of the pilot - it could be that Whedon has invested too much hope in his muse, Eliza Dushku, the star of "Dollhouse." It could also be that the premise is too flawed for anyone to elevate.

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette says:

… isn't awful, but neither is it remarkably good. It's a passable hour of entertainment that shows potential to improve but flails and confuses (and occasionally bores) from the start. …

The Salt Lake Tribune says:

… The kidnapping story is standard criminal fare, and we are given little to no information about Echo's background, which might give viewers a reason to latch on to her character. … I'll watch a few more episodes, but I'm afraid it won't be any more watchable than one of "Star Trek's" worst episodes ever.

The Newark Star Ledger says:

… The idea seems too complicated by half … it looks like a slate that keeps getting half-wiped as Whedon struggles to decide what to draw. …

The Boston Globe says:

… doesn't stand up to the broad interpretations it invites. … Ultimately, you'll want to think about "Dollhouse" more than you'll want to think about watching "Dollhouse." …

Variety says:

Joss Whedon's cult following is no secret, but he seems assured of attracting the faithful and little else with "Dollhouse" -- a series that exhibits a kitchen-sink mentality, throwing in a half-dozen assorted plot threads that intertwine to create confusion. … attempting to unravel this convoluted package suggests that by the time "Dollhouse" finds itself, there won't be anybody but hard-core Whedon worshippers left to play with. …

The Hollywood Reporter says:

… it's easy to see the high aspiration and grand potential of the series but far more difficult to develop any sort of attachment to either the conceit or its enchanting young star and co-producer, Eliza Dushku. … Although Whedon infuses "Dollhouse" with an impressively detailed story line and social structure as well as nifty production values, the show lacks something for viewers to grab onto. Having a personality-shifting protagonist makes for a rooting challenge and, at its core, a disappointingly soulless exercise. On the other hand, Whedon knows how to build a story like few others, and Dushku is an uncommonly talented performer who breathes vibrant life into the ever-evolving blank canvas scheme. So this could definitely turn into something special over time, if the Friday night ratings can justify the patience.



Lena Headey loves this Grindhouse promo:


9 p.m. Friday. Fox.




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Eliza Dushku was on Howard Stern show yesterday.
by Boomers_Lips
Feb 13th, 2009
03:12:38 AM
more Eliza revelations.
by Boomers_Lips
Feb 13th, 2009
03:19:37 AM
Buffy is not the Best Show Ever
by kwisatzhaderach
Feb 13th, 2009
03:19:50 AM
spike + drucilla rocked but buffy not best show ever.
by alice 13
Feb 13th, 2009
03:34:38 AM
oh and 5-7 EPISODES MAX.
by alice 13
Feb 13th, 2009
03:35:56 AM
Eliza has been on all the talk shows promoting this.
by Boomers_Lips
Feb 13th, 2009
03:49:08 AM
A crying shame
by optimus122
Feb 13th, 2009
04:19:50 AM
Saying that...
by optimus122
Feb 13th, 2009
04:22:18 AM
Whedon fails again.
by EyeofPolyphemus
Feb 13th, 2009
04:25:15 AM
Original Pilot
by GregoryHarbin
Feb 13th, 2009
04:32:08 AM
I might watch 'Friday Night Lights' on nbc instead.
by Boomers_Lips
Feb 13th, 2009
04:41:24 AM
Those Reviews!!!
by medicinaluser
Feb 13th, 2009
04:42:40 AM
Yes, I am anti Whedon, but this looks horrible.
by Cotton McKnight
Feb 13th, 2009
04:47:26 AM
Even Herc calls it disappointing.
by V'Shael
Feb 13th, 2009
04:57:35 AM
As a Whedon fan I'll probably watch this until the bitter end
by Spifftacular Squirrel Girl
Feb 13th, 2009
05:17:07 AM
GregoryHarbin
by ShadowVoyd
Feb 13th, 2009
05:18:55 AM
Forgot to Add
by ShadowVoyd
Feb 13th, 2009
05:37:07 AM
Buffy IS remotely near the best show ever...
by nalapou
Feb 13th, 2009
05:48:57 AM
Do the Whedonites have a campaign already
by The McPoyle Clan
Feb 13th, 2009
05:52:07 AM
I miss Firefly
by Stupendous Man
Feb 13th, 2009
06:00:29 AM
Angel better than Buffy
by estacado1
Feb 13th, 2009
06:01:46 AM
why?
by punto
Feb 13th, 2009
06:03:05 AM
You're Not Wrong
by ShadowVoyd
Feb 13th, 2009
06:26:24 AM
NPR had...
by oaser
Feb 13th, 2009
06:39:14 AM
Why not just give us more Firefly?
by fanboy71
Feb 13th, 2009
06:39:35 AM
Why?
by ShadowVoyd
Feb 13th, 2009
06:48:26 AM
Dushku = my ass in a seat
by spud mcspud
Feb 13th, 2009
06:57:15 AM
Best Show Ever? Puh-lease!
by Brody77
Feb 13th, 2009
07:12:03 AM
It
by SkidMarkedUndies
Feb 13th, 2009
07:15:37 AM
thanks for the candour, Herc
by newc0253
Feb 13th, 2009
07:16:52 AM
greatest economic model?
by BigDude
Feb 13th, 2009
07:18:52 AM
I agree..
by fanboy71
Feb 13th, 2009
07:18:57 AM
True - Buffy not the best show ever
by wcme
Feb 13th, 2009
07:19:05 AM
of course we'll watch it... it's Whedon!
by Judge Briggs
Feb 13th, 2009
07:20:24 AM
Okay, let's try this again . . .
by SkidMarkedUndies
Feb 13th, 2009
07:20:29 AM
Sci Fi is going to ned something to replace BSG.
by fanboy71
Feb 13th, 2009
07:21:17 AM
Whedon's brilliance shows over the course of multiple years
by moviemaniac-7
Feb 13th, 2009
07:22:25 AM
fanboy71
by ShadowVoyd
Feb 13th, 2009
07:34:45 AM
Serenity's The Operative
by doubleARon
Feb 13th, 2009
07:55:16 AM
Actually, the end of Buffy Season One wasn't bad.
by cookylamoo
Feb 13th, 2009
07:57:11 AM
That's was honest.
by rbatty024
Feb 13th, 2009
08:09:15 AM
Blame Fox
by Hedgehog000
Feb 13th, 2009
08:10:26 AM
So it tried to be too clever and original?
by Smashing
Feb 13th, 2009
08:34:30 AM
Anyone remember
by InActionMan
Feb 13th, 2009
08:39:27 AM
Listen ...
by Mickguinness
Feb 13th, 2009
08:59:32 AM
Building to greatness...
by MJohnson
Feb 13th, 2009
09:21:05 AM
Knowing Fox, It May Cancel Dollhouse Before Next Week
by frakthetoasters
Feb 13th, 2009
09:24:40 AM
Hmm, too bad, but I'll be patient.
by _Maltheus_
Feb 13th, 2009
09:34:31 AM
Should have done a EVIL LEAGUE OF EVIL series instead
by SpyGuy
Feb 13th, 2009
09:44:33 AM
Dont know anything about Whedon, Buffy, Firefly, or whatever the
by Mrhazard
Feb 13th, 2009
09:59:34 AM
Buffy IS the best show ever
by angelopoulos
Feb 13th, 2009
10:18:56 AM
Fox Promos
by D_T
Feb 13th, 2009
10:27:49 AM
Tahmoh Penikett for Captain America!
by Big Jim
Feb 13th, 2009
10:39:18 AM
MIRRORING BUFFY + SAVING THIS SHOW
by Mullah Omar
Feb 13th, 2009
10:42:16 AM
Series gets better with episode 4
by darquelyte
Feb 13th, 2009
10:46:44 AM
"why can't he craft a series that is good right out of the box?"
by newc0253
Feb 13th, 2009
10:50:58 AM
I'm looking forward to tonight's debut.
by kabong
Feb 13th, 2009
10:52:45 AM
Told myself I wouldn't get excited...
by DanielKurland
Feb 13th, 2009
11:02:15 AM
I'll check it out
by FrodoFraggins
Feb 13th, 2009
11:04:35 AM
Buffy best show ever ? Mwahahaha
by marcus torrance
Feb 13th, 2009
11:08:30 AM
I'll watch even if it is a bomb
by SpikeTBB
Feb 13th, 2009
11:19:34 AM
I dont like the premise but will give it a shot..
by RockLobster800
Feb 13th, 2009
11:20:09 AM
I'm watching anyway
by Potch
Feb 13th, 2009
11:22:20 AM
Buffy! Buffy!
by Aquatarkusman
Feb 13th, 2009
11:47:28 AM
what "big laughs"
by 40ozToFreedom
Feb 13th, 2009
11:57:28 AM
X-files?
by angelopoulos
Feb 13th, 2009
12:26:00 PM
The Wire
by angelopoulos
Feb 13th, 2009
12:28:45 PM
I bet it's gets cancelled after the second episode
by Mr Spork
Feb 13th, 2009
12:33:53 PM
I bet it's gets cancelled after the second episode
by Mr Spork
Feb 13th, 2009
12:33:56 PM
I bet it's gets cancelled after the second episode
by Mr Spork
Feb 13th, 2009
12:33:58 PM
I bet it's gets cancelled after the second episode
by Mr Spork
Feb 13th, 2009
12:34:00 PM
why do critics hate fun?
by v1cious
Feb 13th, 2009
12:35:49 PM
A quadruple post?
by Mr Spork
Feb 13th, 2009
12:38:57 PM
Wheden is like a dumb woman in an abusive relationship
by fiester
Feb 13th, 2009
12:41:19 PM
I didn't get into BTVS until the second season too
by Tacom
Feb 13th, 2009
12:41:41 PM
Dushku was a bore on Stern yesterday
by haggardatbest
Feb 13th, 2009
01:04:36 PM
I would pay extra..
by jackofhearts29
Feb 13th, 2009
01:09:56 PM
tacom
by dingus khan
Feb 13th, 2009
01:12:09 PM
Fringe
by Toonol
Feb 13th, 2009
01:31:33 PM
"Really Really"
by Toonol
Feb 13th, 2009
01:32:52 PM
LOL!!!!!!!!!
by wixmmm
Feb 13th, 2009
01:44:24 PM
Eliza Dushku must convince me to watch Dollhouse in my bed!
by Leafar the Lost
Feb 13th, 2009
01:46:39 PM
Damn, I miss Firefly.
by DarthCorleone
Feb 13th, 2009
02:13:28 PM
The Sopranos Did Suck
by _Maltheus_
Feb 13th, 2009
02:20:59 PM
Buffy was saved....
by cookylamoo
Feb 13th, 2009
02:29:19 PM
Open Letter To: Joss Whedon
by Media Messiah
Feb 13th, 2009
02:32:33 PM
"Galactica Hero"?
by photoboy
Feb 13th, 2009
02:37:20 PM
Snooze
by Drebin
Feb 13th, 2009
02:53:26 PM
So this is like a show about sci-fi pimps and whores?
by cookylamoo
Feb 13th, 2009
02:54:22 PM
Amended: Open Letter To: Joss Whedon
by Media Messiah
Feb 13th, 2009
02:55:56 PM
media messiah
by wixmmm
Feb 13th, 2009
02:59:40 PM
media messiah
by wixmmm
Feb 13th, 2009
03:03:02 PM
The Sopranos Was A Worthless Show!!!
by Media Messiah
Feb 13th, 2009
03:31:11 PM
song???
by mdmd97
Feb 13th, 2009
03:37:57 PM
Joss is a writing god
by thewizardofoz
Feb 13th, 2009
03:41:23 PM
I'd rather see Whedon get $150 mill and make another Firefly mov
by S-Mart shopper
Feb 13th, 2009
03:53:09 PM
Media Messiah
by wixmmm
Feb 13th, 2009
03:57:17 PM
Wixmmm
by Media Messiah
Feb 13th, 2009
03:59:13 PM
media messiah's sex in the city
by wixmmm
Feb 13th, 2009
03:59:53 PM
Perhaps MM could espouse the "morality"
by Fuzzyjefe
Feb 13th, 2009
04:02:39 PM
Media Messiah: WOW
by wixmmm
Feb 13th, 2009
04:08:55 PM
Media Messiah: "you can't be taught that"
by wixmmm
Feb 13th, 2009
04:12:55 PM
LOL
by wixmmm
Feb 13th, 2009
04:16:28 PM
I'll still give it a chance
by My Pretty Pony
Feb 13th, 2009
04:31:36 PM
It is on the TV graveyard night that is Friday
by skimn
Feb 13th, 2009
04:38:54 PM
Marsters On num3ers, too @ 10 Eastern
by Wyatt Wingfoot
Feb 13th, 2009
05:18:46 PM
Eliza Dushku is a Butterface.
by Flim Springfield
Feb 13th, 2009
05:28:37 PM
Where's Corpsie?
by buffywrestling
Feb 13th, 2009
05:32:50 PM
CCon99: The Sopranos--Not Necessarily
by Media Messiah
Feb 13th, 2009
05:45:29 PM
I have not yet read this and I predict...
by supertoyslast
Feb 13th, 2009
05:50:18 PM
I was wrong
by supertoyslast
Feb 13th, 2009
05:51:57 PM
"Never-to-be-aired pilot"
by supertoyslast
Feb 13th, 2009
06:00:50 PM
Wixmmm: Then That Was In Your Classmate All Along
by Media Messiah
Feb 13th, 2009
06:03:28 PM
Wixmmm: On Sly
by Media Messiah
Feb 13th, 2009
06:05:41 PM
supertoyslast...
by NinjaRap
Feb 13th, 2009
06:11:52 PM
is this forum
by Miyamoto_Musashi
Feb 13th, 2009
06:14:16 PM
is this forum about Dollhouse or
by Miyamoto_Musashi
Feb 13th, 2009
06:18:04 PM
Wixmmm: STDs
by Media Messiah
Feb 13th, 2009
06:18:44 PM
there is confirmation this will get 12 episodes ?
by Miyamoto_Musashi
Feb 13th, 2009
06:20:13 PM
NinjaRap
by buffywrestling
Feb 13th, 2009
06:33:53 PM
FuzzyJefe: On Morals...And Buffy
by Media Messiah
Feb 13th, 2009
06:53:07 PM
Joss once got a note from a Fox Exec
by buffywrestling
Feb 13th, 2009
06:55:11 PM
Speaking of basking...
by buffywrestling
Feb 13th, 2009
06:56:23 PM
re: Buffy is not the Best Show Ever
by Prior Walter
Feb 13th, 2009
06:59:06 PM
Messiah - On creative writing in college
by wixmmm
Feb 13th, 2009
07:04:41 PM
Messiah's take on the sopranos
by wixmmm
Feb 13th, 2009
07:06:21 PM
On Writing
by buffywrestling
Feb 13th, 2009
07:16:37 PM
Is it on yet??
by buffywrestling
Feb 13th, 2009
07:19:39 PM
writing
by wixmmm
Feb 13th, 2009
07:23:05 PM
MM's writing
by wixmmm
Feb 13th, 2009
07:25:24 PM
MM IS right on one thing
by wixmmm
Feb 13th, 2009
07:27:42 PM
wixmmm
by buffywrestling
Feb 13th, 2009
07:28:14 PM
Dioxholster: Growing Up Made Me Hate Growing Up
by Media Messiah
Feb 13th, 2009
07:31:00 PM
Buffywrestling: You're Right About That Note
by Media Messiah
Feb 13th, 2009
07:35:01 PM
They're businessmen/woman
by buffywrestling
Feb 13th, 2009
07:47:56 PM
"Dull House"
by ulcer
Feb 13th, 2009
07:49:57 PM
Wixmmm: Godfather
by Media Messiah
Feb 13th, 2009
07:56:03 PM
Female Gileses!
by buffywrestling
Feb 13th, 2009
08:04:03 PM
Long way from
by buffywrestling
Feb 13th, 2009
08:06:40 PM
Living Dead Girl
by buffywrestling
Feb 13th, 2009
08:07:01 PM
She lost her pants!
by buffywrestling
Feb 13th, 2009
08:07:49 PM
Wixmmm: My Email And Writing Samples
by Media Messiah
Feb 13th, 2009
08:09:26 PM
*wipevert*
by buffywrestling
Feb 13th, 2009
08:10:13 PM
No credits yet
by buffywrestling
Feb 13th, 2009
08:12:09 PM
Not too jazzed about the opening score.
by buffywrestling
Feb 13th, 2009
08:14:22 PM
Kellerman!
by buffywrestling
Feb 13th, 2009
08:15:56 PM
Wack-a-mole =
by buffywrestling
Feb 13th, 2009
08:17:52 PM
messiah
by wixmmm
Feb 13th, 2009
08:21:07 PM
"Are you able to back off?"
by buffywrestling
Feb 13th, 2009
08:22:20 PM
yea, buffywrestling, where is that zero corpse?
by chromedome
Feb 13th, 2009
08:31:04 PM
Which comes first: Popularity or Quality?
by chromedome
Feb 13th, 2009
08:34:21 PM
I would like to see a Shepherd Book backstory Firefly flick
by chromedome
Feb 13th, 2009
08:36:41 PM
Interesting!
by buffywrestling
Feb 13th, 2009
08:39:06 PM
Fuck.
by CatVutt
Feb 13th, 2009
08:40:06 PM
That last bit of pacing
by buffywrestling
Feb 13th, 2009
08:49:27 PM
Ooh!
by buffywrestling
Feb 13th, 2009
08:54:57 PM
Who's Alpha?
by buffywrestling
Feb 13th, 2009
08:58:03 PM
JUT WATCHED IT
by VALENTINEproductions
Feb 13th, 2009
08:58:19 PM
Better than Bones
by buffywrestling
Feb 13th, 2009
09:03:33 PM
I liked it.
by Angelus_420
Feb 13th, 2009
09:05:02 PM
That wasn't great
by jccalhoun
Feb 13th, 2009
09:10:13 PM
That wasn't bad but they should change the title to ....
by thecomedian
Feb 13th, 2009
09:15:10 PM
hmm why do...
by Quartermass-87
Feb 13th, 2009
09:21:45 PM
Eliza Dushku
by santi01
Feb 13th, 2009
09:24:43 PM
Quartermass
by wixmmm
Feb 13th, 2009
10:28:42 PM
One thing i don't get in Herc's review
by crazybubba
Feb 13th, 2009
10:29:55 PM
Buffy may not be #1
by jmyoung666
Feb 13th, 2009
10:38:47 PM
The Best part of this episode was Dusku's Short Skirt
by Xiphos_2
Feb 13th, 2009
10:39:24 PM
Bubba...
by thecomedian
Feb 13th, 2009
10:39:32 PM
Awful Lot of Whedon Haters Here
by Akira Cowabunga
Feb 13th, 2009
11:20:30 PM
Hey, not bad
by Hikaru Ichijo
Feb 13th, 2009
11:21:06 PM
Gayest Talkback EVA!
by mistergreen
Feb 14th, 2009
12:05:59 AM
RE: mistergreen
by Incomplete Gamer
Feb 14th, 2009
12:16:54 AM
RE: crazybubba
by Incomplete Gamer
Feb 14th, 2009
12:19:12 AM
Media Messiah you are a LIAR
by Xiphos_2
Feb 14th, 2009
12:22:36 AM
yea think i got it
by crazybubba
Feb 14th, 2009
12:26:07 AM
Wasn't MM the one that said...
by mrfan
Feb 14th, 2009
12:34:27 AM
She looked insanely hot!!
by Ka Dargo
Feb 14th, 2009
12:41:55 AM
I Was Extremely Disappointed By Dollhouse
by Media Messiah
Feb 14th, 2009
12:42:33 AM
Asexual pilot
by crazybubba
Feb 14th, 2009
01:14:00 AM
Xiphos_2: Actually, Mavra Did Do That...And Directly
by Media Messiah
Feb 14th, 2009
01:20:09 AM
crazybubba: I Can See Those Visuals In A Dress Ad
by Media Messiah
Feb 14th, 2009
01:26:14 AM
Good show. Don't believe the critics.
by kbarber29
Feb 14th, 2009
01:29:14 AM
She also has that sexy cleft chin thing....
by Ka Dargo
Feb 14th, 2009
01:31:18 AM
Mr Fan: Whedon Said He Fixed It...Obviously Not???
by Media Messiah
Feb 14th, 2009
01:37:38 AM
The Wire: DULL
by angelopoulos
Feb 14th, 2009
01:48:02 AM
First Episode showed promise
by angelopoulos
Feb 14th, 2009
01:50:33 AM
Shakey cam please stop the shakey cam
by angelopoulos
Feb 14th, 2009
01:53:52 AM
It was ok.
by Toonol
Feb 14th, 2009
02:16:39 AM
The Wire is about a hell of lot more than cops eating nachos
by crazybubba
Feb 14th, 2009
02:18:51 AM
good to grow
by oisin5199
Feb 14th, 2009
02:20:30 AM
Toonol: Okay
by Media Messiah
Feb 14th, 2009
02:43:58 AM
The Wire....not Joss made so it must suck
by Quartermass-87
Feb 14th, 2009
02:44:45 AM
Oisin5199: Let's Watch Next Weeks Ratings...
by Media Messiah
Feb 14th, 2009
02:46:59 AM
enjoyed it
by Buck Swoop
Feb 14th, 2009
02:51:17 AM
damn you major networks
by lsleelee
Feb 14th, 2009
03:57:52 AM
Decent pilot.
by rbatty024
Feb 14th, 2009
04:03:30 AM
People who hates The Wire or The Sopranos...
by marcus torrance
Feb 14th, 2009
04:53:35 AM
Somewhere in the world...
by WatertownSurfer
Feb 14th, 2009
05:24:28 AM
MM, leave Marva alone
by buffywrestling
Feb 14th, 2009
06:00:43 AM
That wasn't too bad.
by losder
Feb 14th, 2009
06:12:56 AM
Fringe vs Dollhouse
by Titus05
Feb 14th, 2009
06:24:53 AM
This TB is entertaining
by Miyamoto_Musashi
Feb 14th, 2009
06:50:46 AM
THE WIRE Is One Of The Greatest Shows OF ALL TIME
by LaserPants
Feb 14th, 2009
06:56:16 AM
SOPRANOS Is A Satire Of Italian American Culture
by LaserPants
Feb 14th, 2009
06:59:39 AM
Terminator
by Alientoast
Feb 14th, 2009
07:45:40 AM
Finally saw it
by GregoryHarbin
Feb 14th, 2009
08:26:39 AM
I didn't think it was bad
by MorpheusTheSandman
Feb 14th, 2009
08:27:12 AM
Was it just me, or did anyone else thing Eliza Dushku...
by rbatty024
Feb 14th, 2009
08:48:03 AM
The good news about a show like Dollhouse
by Itchy
Feb 14th, 2009
09:05:26 AM
I think I want Dollhouse to succeed.
by jiblets
Feb 14th, 2009
09:17:17 AM
Sorry, Skinny Girls Are Fucking Hot
by LaserPants
Feb 14th, 2009
09:43:36 AM
As a fan of "Dark City"...
by Chewtoy
Feb 14th, 2009
10:12:27 AM
The "Dollhouse" set looks EXACTLY like Wolfram & Hart!!!!!
by nrn
Feb 14th, 2009
10:40:26 AM
I think a part of the reason for the quixotic reactions...
by rbatty024
Feb 14th, 2009
10:45:09 AM
It was worth watching just for Eliza in that white dress.
by kabong
Feb 14th, 2009
10:47:47 AM
Was a little boring, but not awful
by BeatsMe
Feb 14th, 2009
10:49:32 AM
Best TV shows ever
by kwisatzhaderach
Feb 14th, 2009
10:56:34 AM
NOT GREAT, BUT NOT HORRIBLE
by Mullah Omar
Feb 14th, 2009
10:57:48 AM
I Agree With Most Of Yr Picks, KwizatzHaderach!
by LaserPants
Feb 14th, 2009
11:10:33 AM
It was ok, nothing to write home about
by _Maltheus_
Feb 14th, 2009
11:16:03 AM
Wheddon is firmly stuck in the 1990's
by ElvisPresLeeHorsleyHarveyOswal dOprahWinFreeJackHorkheimer
Feb 14th, 2009
11:27:44 AM
Good pilot
by Lucidmind
Feb 14th, 2009
11:28:37 AM
What pilots/first episodes have been the most successful?
by rbatty024
Feb 14th, 2009
12:16:27 PM
"tune out and wait"
by oisin5199
Feb 14th, 2009
12:54:08 PM
best tv shows ever (my world)
by oisin5199
Feb 14th, 2009
12:59:20 PM
Dexter was great right out of the gate
by _Maltheus_
Feb 14th, 2009
01:14:54 PM
good for a pilot
by TotalFreedom
Feb 14th, 2009
01:38:14 PM
I really liked Carnivàle's first ep, too
by Rinse
Feb 14th, 2009
01:50:03 PM
I've never watched a Whedon show however
by FookU
Feb 14th, 2009
02:03:13 PM
Buffy isn't on my Greatest TV show list...
by FookU
Feb 14th, 2009
02:16:46 PM
Re: Best shows ever
by skimn
Feb 14th, 2009
02:21:09 PM
I agree with Fanboy71...
by allykatD
Feb 14th, 2009
02:21:34 PM
I don't think it's fair to compare Dexter as a pilot
by DS9-4ever
Feb 14th, 2009
02:48:13 PM
Eh, I liked it
by Bass Ackwards
Feb 14th, 2009
03:54:04 PM
How about "Veronica Mars"?
by arzbest
Feb 14th, 2009
04:03:31 PM
The Ratings: Both Shows Are In Trouble
by Media Messiah
Feb 14th, 2009
04:04:01 PM
Pilot episode is a pilot
by logicalnoise01
Feb 14th, 2009
04:09:17 PM
Re: MM
by wixmmm
Feb 14th, 2009
04:15:04 PM
and i know what's coming
by wixmmm
Feb 14th, 2009
04:16:27 PM
lol: MM calls for reboot after 1 episode
by wixmmm
Feb 14th, 2009
04:17:15 PM
Joss does just fine without your help Media.
by mrfan
Feb 14th, 2009
04:19:50 PM
can we all agree
by oisin5199
Feb 14th, 2009
04:23:56 PM
This show just doesn't LOOK good
by keter
Feb 14th, 2009
04:31:40 PM
Wonder what the first ep would have been
by kabong
Feb 14th, 2009
04:35:54 PM
Media Messia
by Mavra Chang
Feb 14th, 2009
04:47:06 PM
Mr Fan: Okay...Look At The Ratings
by Media Messiah
Feb 14th, 2009
04:51:22 PM
Ratings, schmatings, I'll take anything Whedon
by crankyoldguy
Feb 14th, 2009
05:24:19 PM
Eh
by jdb1972
Feb 14th, 2009
05:31:41 PM
MM you rectal itch
by Xiphos_2
Feb 14th, 2009
05:35:26 PM
Media M
by optimus122
Feb 14th, 2009
05:53:01 PM
jdb1972 hit it for me...
by allykatD
Feb 14th, 2009
05:54:42 PM
Does Joss Whedon have a talent for casting or what?
by crazybubba
Feb 14th, 2009
06:04:20 PM
While we are talking great first episodes...
by WatertownSurfer
Feb 14th, 2009
06:08:16 PM
Roswell
by optimus122
Feb 14th, 2009
06:09:36 PM
Great first episodes for great shows...
by Mullah Omar
Feb 14th, 2009
06:16:43 PM
funny
by slkboxrman
Feb 14th, 2009
06:42:28 PM
over over-praised dung confusion like 'Lost,'
by billypilgrimisunstuck
Feb 14th, 2009
08:49:21 PM
okay--finally got time to watch
by chromedome
Feb 14th, 2009
08:53:38 PM
I can't believe no one else noticed wolfram & hart
by nrn
Feb 14th, 2009
09:04:06 PM
I can't believe no one else noticed wolfram & hart
by nrn
Feb 14th, 2009
09:05:25 PM
Optimus122
by Media Messiah
Feb 14th, 2009
09:19:37 PM
Xiphos_2
by Media Messiah
Feb 14th, 2009
09:24:16 PM
Amended: Xiphos_2
by Media Messiah
Feb 14th, 2009
09:25:29 PM
Based on, your writing samples, here,
by chromedome
Feb 14th, 2009
09:34:47 PM
this premise was better
by mojoman69
Feb 14th, 2009
09:37:18 PM
Give Dr. Horrible the Friday Time Slot...
by Henry Fool
Feb 14th, 2009
09:48:00 PM
FUCK WOLFRAM AND HART, I CAN'T BELIEVE...
by thecomedian
Feb 14th, 2009
10:24:56 PM
Joss Has Lost His Humor?
by Akira Cowabunga
Feb 14th, 2009
10:29:01 PM
Media Messiah
by wixmmm
Feb 14th, 2009
10:31:28 PM
You're Letting "Media Messiah" Get to You?
by Akira Cowabunga
Feb 14th, 2009
10:50:37 PM
Eliza Dushku is a disgusting actress
by Nabster
Feb 14th, 2009
11:30:28 PM
Just watched it....
by dj_bollocks
Feb 15th, 2009
01:51:56 AM
Wixmmm: Okay
by Media Messiah
Feb 15th, 2009
01:55:15 AM
Akira Cowabunga
by Media Messiah
Feb 15th, 2009
01:58:32 AM
Mojoman69: Joe 90
by Media Messiah
Feb 15th, 2009
02:00:54 AM
Nabster: Dushku
by Media Messiah
Feb 15th, 2009
02:18:39 AM
Dushku
by optimus122
Feb 15th, 2009
04:25:28 AM
I'm glad at least Mullah
by The McPoyle Clan
Feb 15th, 2009
04:52:58 AM
Wow trust FOX
by Mr_X
Feb 15th, 2009
08:19:46 AM
The good parts: Eliza's legs, Eliza's ass,
by kabong
Feb 15th, 2009
10:54:38 AM
The best pilot episodes are the ones...
by rbatty024
Feb 15th, 2009
11:24:00 AM
hmm
by AbsoluteTruth
Feb 15th, 2009
12:56:22 PM
Wow, this really IS going to last 6 episodes.
by AnnoyYou
Feb 15th, 2009
02:08:32 PM
Let's Wait and See: 1st ep was effed over by Fox Suits
by chromedome
Feb 15th, 2009
02:21:30 PM
Wiper Geek has to go, though.
by chromedome
Feb 15th, 2009
02:24:03 PM
Wiper Geek's "..man friend.." line has to be
by chromedome
Feb 15th, 2009
03:41:53 PM
RBatty024: You Are Right About Series Pilots
by Media Messiah
Feb 15th, 2009
03:48:38 PM
For me, Fox probably effed it, but it should have been
by chromedome
Feb 15th, 2009
03:59:45 PM
MediahMessiah and Chromedome
by rbatty024
Feb 15th, 2009
04:21:19 PM
ok Media Messiah
by wixmmm
Feb 15th, 2009
04:55:36 PM
for anyone paying attention
by oisin5199
Feb 15th, 2009
04:58:52 PM
pt. 2
by oisin5199
Feb 15th, 2009
05:06:47 PM
oisin
by wixmmm
Feb 15th, 2009
05:16:59 PM
Wiper Geek should get about one minute per ep.
by kabong
Feb 15th, 2009
05:25:42 PM
wixmmm
by oisin5199
Feb 15th, 2009
05:30:38 PM

by wixmmm
Feb 15th, 2009
05:53:29 PM
First Wave - AWESOME pilot
by DS9-4ever
Feb 15th, 2009
06:23:29 PM
Whedon Has A 6 Year Plan For This Show???
by Media Messiah
Feb 15th, 2009
06:46:22 PM
fuck off, media messiah
by oisin5199
Feb 15th, 2009
07:27:16 PM
oisin5199: You Don't Seem To Believe Your Own Words?
by Media Messiah
Feb 15th, 2009
08:08:15 PM
HBO
by grfrog
Feb 15th, 2009
08:33:34 PM
Believe these words
by oisin5199
Feb 15th, 2009
09:36:42 PM
Review Time (also, I LOVE the grindhousey trailer)
by RedCricketChase
Feb 15th, 2009
10:49:17 PM
This is a typical Fox Show!
by DrunkenBusboy
Feb 16th, 2009
12:16:41 AM
Sweet Christmas...
by Mr.FTW
Feb 16th, 2009
03:57:21 AM
re:chromedome
by JonJonB
Feb 16th, 2009
05:38:07 AM
Just seen it on Hulu
by bellwether
Feb 16th, 2009
09:30:00 AM
If only I could be the one to wipe Eliza Dushku's character
by turketron
Feb 16th, 2009
09:51:37 AM
It'll be canceled in a year.
by Luscious.868
Feb 16th, 2009
11:24:47 AM
It'll be canceled in a year.
by Luscious.868
Feb 16th, 2009
11:24:52 AM
some other great stuff
by oisin5199
Feb 16th, 2009
11:48:47 AM
Oisin5199: Okay?
by Media Messiah
Feb 16th, 2009
02:04:32 PM
An Interview With Eliza Dushku:
by Media Messiah
Feb 16th, 2009
02:32:40 PM
Not bad, not really good either
by Cobbio
Feb 16th, 2009
05:37:30 PM
after reading that post about Dushku
by crazybubba
Feb 16th, 2009
06:40:25 PM
The Dushku Interview
by Media Messiah
Feb 16th, 2009
07:23:46 PM
that's rediculous
by wixmmm
Feb 16th, 2009
08:37:19 PM
Wixmmm: It Is Ridiculous...And That's Why It's So Cool!!!
by Media Messiah
Feb 16th, 2009
09:22:39 PM
Sunday is better, not because of the Simpons lead in
by chromedome
Feb 16th, 2009
09:32:02 PM
Yes We Know That Ratings Are Higher On Sundays, But...
by Media Messiah
Feb 16th, 2009
09:49:07 PM
MM--thats the thing
by wixmmm
Feb 16th, 2009
10:36:03 PM
even worse
by wixmmm
Feb 16th, 2009
10:39:54 PM
Dollhouse needs to look sharp.
by kabong
Feb 16th, 2009
10:50:41 PM
Wixmmm: Guys In A Frat...he Sudden Visual Of Hot Women???
by Media Messiah
Feb 16th, 2009
11:40:02 PM
sex sells? to frat guys?
by wixmmm
Feb 17th, 2009
12:09:23 AM
Kabong: Agreed On The Opening
by Media Messiah
Feb 17th, 2009
12:24:58 AM
Wixmmm: I'm Right On Point
by Media Messiah
Feb 17th, 2009
12:40:49 AM
Amended: Wixmmm: I'm Right On Point
by Media Messiah
Feb 17th, 2009
12:45:23 AM
I thought it was pretty good actually
by reflecto
Feb 17th, 2009
11:19:56 AM
It was the best Whedon pilot,
by Quin the Eskimo
Feb 17th, 2009
01:32:27 PM
what's the point
by Bob Dobbs
Feb 17th, 2009
03:56:35 PM
and frankly,
by Bob Dobbs
Feb 17th, 2009
04:00:50 PM

by Potch
Feb 17th, 2009
04:58:17 PM
I Have A Problem With Whedonesque.com
by Media Messiah
Feb 17th, 2009
05:58:03 PM
I'm a browncoat... Didn't like this show at all.
by Power_Girl
Feb 17th, 2009
08:08:10 PM
Let's all say this together: FOX EFFED FIRST EPISODE
by chromedome
Feb 17th, 2009
09:22:07 PM
But the "Why Whedon Went To Fox Again" mystery is solved
by chromedome
Feb 17th, 2009
09:24:16 PM
Power_Girl: The Moral Guy
by Media Messiah
Feb 18th, 2009
12:26:09 AM
The New Zoo Review = Hot Chiks?!!
by ElvisPresLeeHorsleyHarveyOswal dOprahWinFreeJackHorkheimer
Feb 18th, 2009
05:38:15 AM
The agent investigating Dollhouse
by Jor-El23
Feb 18th, 2009
10:05:59 AM
ElvisPresLee: Emmy Jo?...Hot? Hell, Yes???
by Media Messiah
Feb 18th, 2009
06:02:27 PM
PS:
by Media Messiah
Feb 18th, 2009
06:11:55 PM
fuck media messiah!
by oisin5199
Feb 18th, 2009
10:14:07 PM
Oisin5199: What A Wonderful Invitation??? Thank You!!!
by Media Messiah
Feb 19th, 2009
03:11:08 PM
Loser
by oisin5199
Feb 19th, 2009
11:47:21 PM
Oisin5199: Funny???
by Media Messiah
Feb 20th, 2009
01:04:03 AM

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