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Brett Ratner to direct a remake of OCEAN'S 11'
Currently within the realm of the development chart known as (Rewriting and Casting) is a project called OCEAN'S 11. Thirty-Nine years ago Lewis Milestone, director of such great films as ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT, RAIN and a personal fave of mine EDGE OF DARKNESS, directed Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, Sammy Davis Jr, Peter Lawford, Angie Dickinson, Joey Bishop, Henry Silva and others into what is commonly known amongst the coolsters of the world as "One cool as hell movie" called OCEAN'S 11.
I had the good fortune to see this movie projected here in Austin about a year ago (Click Here To Read) and now I hear that Brett Ratner (Money Talks and Rush Hour) is doing preliminary work on a remake that would move Danny Ocean and his band of merry men from the sixties to the present. You see... Now they'd be veterans of Desert Storm. Down on their luck and spread all over hell. The plotline is to get this group of eleven back together and in place to pull one hell of a heist in Vegas at a major casino during the height of the big fight.
Well, ya know. I really like the first film, but not so much as a pure movie so much as for a document of the Rat Pack at it's coolest. The movie is cool, simply because those guys are in it. I do believe that a remake could be viable on this film, but ya know... People will always rather see Sammy and Dean and Frank and crew.... I mean... They ain't actors or performers.... They're ICONS. I don't know... Maybe it would work.
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Just wanted to talkback to prevent some moron from bragging about being first. Join the crusade. INTO GLORY RIDE!!!
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Kinda contradicted yourself there, Vidar. Anyways, you'd be hard pressed to find a group of actors that could pull this gig off. Maybe John Favreau, Vince Vaughn and Heather Graham are a start.
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but why bother remaking oceans 11? why not just take the premise and do something new with it (which is what they're probably going to do anyway) and call it something else?
I'd rather see a mediocre film based on another, earlier film, then a mediocre remake of a better, earlier film. Also, I hope vince vaughn perishes in an acid bath while screaming "you're so money!!" -
Okay, what the hell? Has Hollywood dried up so much that in order to make a buck the execs are willing to remake amovie that is perfect on it's own. Does no one have a fresh idea out there? i say, if it ain't broke don't fix it. Oceans 11 is a great film. There is no reason to remake it. By remakeing that film all that will be accomplished is the sullying of the name Oceans 11. No longer will it be "that great Sinatra movie" that my father talked about for years before i was able to actually get my hands on a copy, it will be "that movie about those guys from dessert storm" that the kids at the table next to me at Denny's will be rambling on about.
And further more if they remake the film, would Sammy's musical number be left in? Because that scene makes the entire movie what it is. -
Who will be casted Puff Daddy's Crew, Master P's Crew, or the Wu? I saw the original about a year ago on Turner Classic, and as I watched it I just knew somebody was going to remake it geared towards an urban audience. Old Blue Eyes is rolling over in his grave.
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I hope that this is one of those projects that is talked about but never realized. The idea of switching from remaking bad TV shows to cluture period pieces is a bad one. Isn't there anymoe Jane Austin to rip off? Is Mike Criteton not writing enought books to base the titles of movies off of? Have they no comon decency to let Frank lie in peace for a couple of years? Of course not.
This is so much in the Gus Van vein but this time we are remaking a color movie because numbers have shown that the teens don't watch black and white "old time movies". Argh...
Watch them go after Tom Hanks or George Klunie...and the budget is going to be huge. Or maybe this will become "ocean's 4" because of the skyrocketing contract prices.
Oh Man...I am done for the day. This makes even less sense than usual for me. Make'em stop Harry before we have another Canon Ball run to compete with "Death Race 3000". You know some exec has thought it already. -
Pathetic! It won't work! I read the script and its very weak! You can't compare the original to this, which was just an okay movie to begin with.
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... the fact that OCEAN'S ELEVEN is a really lousy film! It's boring, stupid and only entertaining because of the Rat Pack's presence. Actually, if one really wanted to be a critical pain in the ass, one could go so far as to say even THEIR presence isn't that great, and Sammy's "E-O-Eleven" is the film's only real highlight. I'm sure OCEAN'S is fun to see as a midnight movie with a bunch of other wannabe swingers, but at home, on TV, while sober... UGH! People forget that Rat Pack nostalgia is a result of SCTV and SNL skits making fun of the Rat Pack. That doesn't take away from Frank or Dino's talent, but it's true.
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I'm a huge Sinatra/Martin/Davis fan and as much as I wish Ocean's 11 had been great, the truth is it's a major bore. Flash back to the Gene Siskle rule; would you rather watch this movie or documentary footage of the same actors having lunch? Please! That having been said, its a pretty good premise. Its been borrowed a few times since (recently on DS9) but not to a crippling extent. The only cavet I have would be to set it in the old Vegas, in the tough guys and glamour era of the 50's and 60's, not the senior bus tour and waterslide era of Vegas today. Yeech.
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Okay, cast O's 11 with today's actors, you have to pick a Danny Ocean, two "captains" and then eight cool character actors to back them up!
Here we go (forgive my SP): Nicholas Cage for Danny O, then Larry Fishbure and John Cusak backed up by Steve Buscemi, Oliver Platt, Owen Wilson, Quinten Tarantino, Don Cheadle, John C. Rielly, Adam Goldberg and John Turturro. -
What a good idea! I agree with Harry about the iconoclasm, but the simple truth was that the original film itself was fairly weak - a star vehicle if you will. To do it justice, you need to cast according to type. The names that leap to mind are Tom Sizemore, James Belushi, Michael Madsen, John Goodman (somewhere) -guys who have a very male presence, look like they would know how to have a good time together, while also being "no-shit", tight military operation.
In fact, lets face it - this is a dream casting stuation, so if anyone can do any better, post em up! -
Why are remakes so popular to studios? I don't recall any being blockbusters and we can all rattle off a list of a half douzen remakes that suck wind compared to the origional. they got Oceans-11 right the first time around, leave it alone.
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.....this is one of the few things I do not want to endure in my lifetime.
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[1] ocean's 11 was not a very good film to begin with - it only works because of the rat pack. [2] brett ratner can't direct fucking traffic - the only reason rush hour did so well was jackie chan.
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This guy makes passably entertaining movies, but after hearing him speak at a screening of Rush Hour I really have to say that I worry about his artistic integrity. First he was talking about remaking The Killing Of A Chinese Bookie, and now this. Remakes don't absolutely suggest artistic bankruptcy...but maybe they do.
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Jul 21, 1999 6:59:39 PM CDT
Because this is EXACTLY the type of movie that should be remade.
by dennis
Ocean's 11 was nothing more that a vehicle for the Rat Pack. The movie in itself was only entertaining for the cast alone, in my opinion, and it could only be made better if more effort was put into the premise. Actually, I like the idea of going kind of light on the story, doing LOTS of improv, and letting the actors do their thing -- what makes them shine most bright! Almost like a time-capsule of our generation, like it was for the Rat Pack's, and the amazing acting talent to be found here. I'm not talking about a thespian, I'm talking about the people, who when you see them perform, make you feel alive! Here are my picks, mix & match 'em with one exception: EWAN MCGREGGOR! (God I love that man. More Ewan, please...) The rest could be: EDWARD NORTON, HEATHER GRAHAM, JOHN LEGUIZAMO, VING RHAMES, MATT DAMON, MIKE MYERS, BEN STILLER, JENNIFER LOPEZ, CLAIRE DANES -- I don't know! Just bring together not neccisarily the most commercial actors of our time, but the most entertaining!
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I think that remakes are a good thing for one reason. Lots of people dont bother to see older movies, either because they are in black in white, no special effects, etc. for whatever reason. The new version gives those lazy/picky people a reason to see something that has a really cool story, but other than this reason I think remakes usually suck unless the original version of the film sucked.
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May the spirit of Jilly Rizzo come to Earth and slap around Brent Ratner (just because he has the word "rat" in his name doesn't mean he should be remaking Rat Pack movies) and any other suits even considering going ahead with this travesty.
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First of all, Ocean's 11 is not that great of a film, as the only reason why it worked was that the Rat Pack was in it. Ratner does not have the style or panache to remake a film such as Ocean's 11, but should in fact concentrate on Rush Hour 2. The screenplay is thoroughly entertaining as the action streches from Hong Kong to New York and finally to Las Vegas. It would be an enjoyable film and I think better than the original.
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Have them bring in Judd, Emilio, Molly, Anthony Michael, Rob, & Andrew. James Spader and Charlie Sheen could use a career boost, throw them in too. Now I'd pay to see THAT!
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Come on, now, Lest - you suggest casting 8 cool character actors and then list QUENTIN TARANTINO as one of them? :)
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