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Rumor... a doozy... Wachowskis... McTeague... PLASTIC MAN, SUPERMAN Trilogy & Singer on LOGAN'S RUN?!?!?!

Published at: Feb. 11, 2009, 4:30 p.m. CST

Hey folks, Harry here... Ballack has been a reliable and constant source of geek rumor news online for many sites, including AICN. This time he's come in with a big one. Now, these are the sorts of rumors that only time confirms, because when you contact folks involved, you get non-denial denials - and no comments. The reason is this. Until paperwork is signed and sealed, these are musings of history... Moments where this is what is going on behind the scenes - but let's see if they make their way to being more than musings, but actual reality. Now, I have read at least one version of the Wachowski's PLASTIC MAN and have seen the storyboards for that film... it was an incredible superhero period film noir that was absolutely breathtaking waiting to become a living LB COLE work of cinema. As for the Wachowskis and SUPERMAN... well, that could be super! Here's Ballack with the full report...

Hi Guys, Ballack here, its been a while since we last communicated, however, i thought this time round I'd send you some info instead of our friends at Latino Review. You may recall a few months back i broke the news of Arnold's comeback in T4 at LatinoReview. Anyways, here in Berlin i had the good fortune of watching a year in review on RTL1. The show was about upcoming movies in 2009. There was a segment on Ninja Assassin a film being directed by James McTeigue and being produced by Hollywood heavy weight Joel Silver. McTeigue spoke about filming in Germany and the many highlights of shooting in a huge city like Berlin. The interviewer spoke about future plans and James spilled the following tidbets! - Ninja Assassin is locked and complete. Awaiting a suitable marketing strategy and release from WB. Looking likely to be a late summer release. - Action scenes are absolutely brutal, unbelievable vision from the Wachowski's in blocking the fights with the Hong Kong stunt team. - Spoke about the benefits of tax breaks received from the German and British Governments in making the film. BRACE YOURSELVES FOR THIS.... - McTeigue confirmed that Plastic Man was the next project in the pipeline for the Wachowski's and he had been signed on to provide Second Unit support. Says the movie has been delayed indefinitely due to a major shake up of projects at WB. - Bryan Singer has refused to undertake a re-boot of the Superman franchise and has left the Executives at WB with no choice but to take a fresh creative direction. This is it.... - He stated the Wachowski Brothers had been approached to re-boot the franchise as a trilogy and they are currently reviewing their options as its like being asked to take the final play in a superbowl final. Says if they do agree, he will likely either succumb to providing second unit support on the movie or will champion the directorship of Plastic Man - He started to giggle as he stated its like a young child for the Brothers and they wont give that up easily. - Says, the very thought of the brothers making a superman movie is unbelievable as they have grown up in the world of comic books and they would be ideal for the project. - Stated that Bryan Singer is looking to move on to Logan's Run a movie to be produced by Joel Silver. Hope i have remembered everything. Good luck in the future guys. Ballack....

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  • Feb. 11, 2009, 4:32 p.m. CST

    Have Less faith in Wachowskis

    by cookylamoo

    Than I do in Bear Sterns.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 4:33 p.m. CST

    You've Seen What Happens

    by ZooTrain

    When the Wachowskis get their hands on a trilogy...

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 4:34 p.m. CST

    Personally, I don't care

    by ZooTrain

    I just wanted to do my part to thwart a "First" post. Assholes.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 4:34 p.m. CST

    lol Singer lol

    by DigitalDong

    For Great Justice.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 4:36 p.m. CST

    Michael Bay

    by BADBOYBROM HC

    I asked my mate if he would see Friday the 13th. He said as it was Michael Bay he probably see it. Thought I'd share that with you as you don't hear that everyday.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 4:36 p.m. CST

    Why isn't Ratner linked to direct all these projects?

    by Ghostwood

    Isn't it stated in his contract with Lucifer that he gets to be attached to any and all potential or non-potential franchise flicks?

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 4:37 p.m. CST

    nice news

    by RonnieDanger

    i would love to see a remake of Logan's Run,, it's such a great movie but needing a generational remake

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 4:38 p.m. CST

    Yes, There is a GOD. Speed Racer was incredible awesome!!! Go Wa

    by Twiggystar

    Please let it be true a Sups movie with the Bros, fuck the haters.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 4:38 p.m. CST

    Give SUPERMAN to JAMES 'fucking' CAMERON already!

    by ABking

    Give CAMERON 350 million of the studios money and full creative control and watch SUPERMAN make 1 BILLION DOLLARS like THE DARK KNIGHT!

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Singer is a clown

    by teh awesome

    He is like M Night Shalamalamadingdong, but with talent! (Barring supes returns, which SUCKED)

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 4:40 p.m. CST

    ya gotta have faith

    by Mr_X

    I have more faith in the Wachowski boys (girl?) to reboot superman. i wish the plastic man project would just hurry up and die as there are s many other worthwhile superhero projects to do. Logans run? wasn't this already remade as The Island?

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 4:40 p.m. CST

    hmmm debating the Han Solo quote here...

    by waggy

    While all 3 Matrix films had some stunning action sequences, the first one is the last good movie they made, oh... 10 years ago. They may deliver a more action-packed movie than Singer, but I'm skeptical that they'll deliver a better one (much less 3).

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 4:40 p.m. CST

    LOOOOGGGGGGGAAAAAAAN

    by electricjones

    Ballack just sent me follow-up e-mail. Singer thinks Logan's Run is sequel to X-Men Origins: Wolverine. I mean...is that...not...what that is?

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Just Portray the World's Greatest Superhero as...

    by Kal Reeve

    Pure and iconic and the Greatest Superhero who ever lived and the film should be stellar.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 4:41 p.m. CST

    Quick question

    by Mattyboy122

    How is it that the Wachowskis are not persona non grata (I'll just refer to them as one person) after the catastrophic failure of Speed Racer? Especially at WB, the studio that ended up footing the bill for that dud.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 4:42 p.m. CST

    And KEEP ROUTH AND THE WILLIAM'S SCORE

    by Kal Reeve

    Superman should have a sense of grandeur and majesty. After all, he is the World's Greatest Superhero.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 4:42 p.m. CST

    It's not the Wachowski brothers anymore...

    by Mr Ages

    one of them had a snip snip.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 4:43 p.m. CST

    Devastator:

    by Judge_Dredd

    http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/02/actoys2.jpg

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 4:44 p.m. CST

    http://tinyurl.com/b3gkmc

    by Judge_Dredd

    http://tinyurl.com/b3gkmc

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 4:45 p.m. CST

    Because the Wachowskis are So Good at Trilogies?

    by DKT

    I dunno. I love Love LOVE the first Matrix movie, but maybe they can get someone else on board to write. <br><br> That said, I'd rather see Singer do Logan's Run than another Superman, anyway...

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 4:46 p.m. CST

    JON HAMM!

    by ImJustSaying

    JON HAMM! JON HAMM! JON HAMM! JON HAMM! JON HAMM! JON HAMM! JON HAMM! JON HAMM! JON HAMM! JON HAMM! VS. BRAINIAC! JON HAMM!!!!! COME ON!

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 4:47 p.m. CST

    This IS cool news!

    by Delagoya

    A Wachowski Superman movie would be WAY more entertaining than any stupid Singer movie.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Wachowski will hire Keanu Reeves to play Supes

    by RokurGepta

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 4:51 p.m. CST

    the end of Matrix 3 is a great superhero fight

    by Rupee88

    Maybe the best in cinema ever...I can't think of anyone who I'd rather see do Superman movies than the Wachowskis...you know they would make it funky...hopefully not like Speed Racer, but I bet they would do something fun.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 4:53 p.m. CST

    LB Cole was NOT the Plastic Man creator

    by Odkin

    That would be cartoonist genius JACK Cole, also an early artist for Playboy. LB Cole was a talented artist whose poster-like covers adorned very cheesy horror and fantasy comics.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 4:53 p.m. CST

    GODDAMNIT DKT!!!!!!!

    by DOGSOUP

    I was going to say that!

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 4:53 p.m. CST

    It's not that hard.

    by Snookeroo

    It's just no that hard, people.<br><br> There's 70 years of source material. He's truth, justice and the American way -- not skinny, stalker and overtly gay.<br><br>And by the way -- re-boot, but don't tell the origin story again. Even Baka Pygmies know where Superman started, ok?<br><br>And never, ever do another Luthor story. Ever.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 4:57 p.m. CST

    terrible idea

    by IndyAbbey Jones

    superman needs to be given to a director who is not full of himself like singer and the wachowski's are..give it too a low key director who has established himself on a few films...its what they did with donner in 78 and with nolan for batman, hell even sam raimi fits into that description<P>give the franchise to someone like mark forster or martin campell

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 4:58 p.m. CST

    i didnt have a problem with Brandon Routh

    by Mr_X

    lois and jimmy i felt weren't suited. what are they going to do about the superkid? and yes. NO MORE LUTHOR.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5 p.m. CST

    Yup..Reeves will be superman..lol

    by SomaShine

    Err..Keanu..not the dead cripple

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:02 p.m. CST

    Id love to see...

    by david19

    A fleshed out version of the animated series pilot. Theres a lot of good plot there with Jor-el and Brainian that could serve well as a first movie, but ultimately what NEEDS to happen is a Trilogy with Darkseid. Superman has some great villains that havent been tapped. And for fucks sake leave Lex Luthor alone. Or, at least, have him as an actual business man instead of the fucking Gene Hackman/Kevin Spacey Luthor.<P>Film one, Jor-el, Brainiac, Superman's introduction to the world, make it more futuristic, end with a battle between Supes and Brainiac. Film 2, maybe some Parasite, perhaps introduce Apocalips, Film 3, battle royale with Darkseid.<P>Hmm or maybe introduce Darkseid and have him as the villiain for the Justice League Movie. Score.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:03 p.m. CST

    Superman in no way...

    by Kal Reeve

    should resemble the awful, soulless, pretentious Matrix films. The World's Greatest Superhero deserves majesty and nothing less.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:08 p.m. CST

    Do Death of Superman Already

    by Stacy Without An E

    If you want to do a trilogy, that story is a great starting point. First film, the fall of Superman. Middle film, the rise or the Supermen. Final film, Supes resurrection and return. The Wachowski's could make a wonderful trilogy with all the talent they have access to. And the early suggestion of Joe Hamm? Inspired casting.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:11 p.m. CST

    Stephen Colbert as Plastic Man!

    by blackmantis

    Make it so.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:13 p.m. CST

    POST YOUR TRIP TO BERLIN ALREADY HARRY

    by Stengah

    My hype o meter is running full throttle here.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Colbert is a great suggestion.

    by Dingbatty

    Never thought of that.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:14 p.m. CST

    NOLAN IS DOING SCI-FI!

    by UMAGA

    http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/02/11/christopher-nolan-to-direct-inception-what-does-this-mean-for-batman-3/

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Though, he's a Marvel Zombie.

    by Dingbatty

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:16 p.m. CST

    Just please..no more "origin" movies...

    by Circean6

    Just go right into it, Braniac, President Luthor, Bizzaro, hell I'll even take Terra Man..just no more wasting another movie re-hashing of the origin. And please Baby Jesus keep Mark Millar far..far away from this movie...

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:17 p.m. CST

    SUPERMAN RETURNS misfired...

    by sapno_krei

    Singer had the right frame of mind -- a continuation of the good SUPERMAN movies, I & II, rather than a hokey send-up. The main problems with RETURNS were the casting and the dull script. They could have taken the exact same plotline, punched up the dialogue and used good actors, and had a killer movie. Instead, we got a bland Routh speaking two-word sentences, an even duller Kate Bosworth as Lois, and, worst of all, Kevin Spacey not sure whether to play Luthor for laughs or deadly serious. Imagine if RETURNS been released as SUPERMAN III back in the 80s, with the original cast in place and dialogue doctored by Tom Mankiewicz!

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:18 p.m. CST

    Intriguing Choice

    by Ky-El

    I won't hate on the Wachowski's just yet. The end of Matrix Revolutions is still the best superman-esque fight ever on film. When I saw that, I figured Superman Returns would top that. But they went a different way. And Speed Racer showed they can do lighter more pulp-y type fanfare. But personally I think a Death of...trilogy would be awesome. Insert Brainiac for Mongul in the 3rd act and let Wachowski's go all Matrix-y crazy with the robot tech look and it could be suh-weet.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:23 p.m. CST

    No Superman Reboot

    by Antz

    There are great established characters there they can kill off (son and Lois's boyfriend) to add dramatic tension and teeth to a new villain. <P> Apart from Bosworth, I thought the cast was great. The movie just had a lame third act.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:23 p.m. CST

    About the Origin

    by Ky-El

    I never get tired of fresh takes on the origin. I love Smallville. I loved Superman: Birthright. Yeah that's right. It's awesome. Suck it. So honestly I'd be cool with them adding the origin or at least flashbacks. Although the generation that the movies will be trying to reach all pretty much know their origin from Smallville and lesser so the Reeve film.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:25 p.m. CST

    Mark Millar

    by WavingFlagsInSpace

    Wasn't there some story circulating about Mark Millar writing a Superman trilogy? Wasn't he banging on about it being a 'name' in the director's chair. I guess the Wachowskis are a name. Millar + Wachowskis + Superman = ????<p>And here we have mention of a trilogy. Just putting 2 + 2 together and getting twotwo.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:26 p.m. CST

    To make Superman succeed...

    by IAmJack'sUserID

    Keep Routh but get a good actor's director, someone that can coax a performance. Also lose Bosworth and replace with Rose Byrne (who kinda resembles a younger, hotter version of Margot Kidder), cast Terry O'Quinn or even Clancy Brown as Luthor. Have Michael Giacchino score but retain the memorable themes. Get Mankowicz back for writing. Too bad we don't have an early 70's/late 80's version of Spielberg to tackle this one. <p></p> Also, NO reboot. We have established Superman already. Have him face a villain like Brainiac or Metallo who actually has the potential to destroy not only Metropolis, but the world!

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:27 p.m. CST

    "has left the Executives at WB with no choice..."

    by supertoyslast

    Clearly they had a choice. Either reboot (again) or let Singer make a direct sequel to Superman Returns. For my money, endlessly rebooting a franchise is the worst option. I was looking forward to a Superman film which assumed we were familiar with the character and didn't detail his arrival on Earth, being rasised by the Kents etc. Now we'll see that all over again.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:27 p.m. CST

    Don't do "Death of Superman"

    by Snookeroo

    Why bring him back into the public eye just to kill him off? Superman Returns was panned for being too much of a downer. Don't make the same mistake again. Besides, The Death of Superman was an uber-crap storyline. John Henry with a cape? Smarmy Superboy with a leather jacket and sunglasses? Terminator Superman? They must have spent minutes and minutes conceptualizing THAT one.<br><br>Superman ISN'T Batman -- don't make the movie dark and brooding. Superman is light, hopeful, and inspiring with good action and some timeless characters. Play to Superman's iconic strengths, for cryin' out loud.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:32 p.m. CST

    The last fight in Matrix 3

    by FilmZ0mbie

    Was indeed badass. If they can capture that same vibe and apply it to a Superman flick that isn't Lex centered, then it will be fucking my hollowed out eye sockets because I would have had MY EYES FORNICATED INTO OBLIVION BY A V A T A R in 09.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:32 p.m. CST

    Just make a superman movie!

    by jarjarmessiah

    Don't worry about whether it is a reboot or SR sequel. Everybody knows who superman is! Just make a kick ass story and dont worry about continity ala pre Daniel Craig James Bond.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:36 p.m. CST

    Speed Racer was unwatchable

    by UrbanSuperman

    After I saw the 1st Matrix I thought they'd be perfect for Superman. But not so sure now. Maybe if someone else wrote the script. And I hope Warner Bros is listening. NO ONE WANTS ANOTHER ORIGIN STORY!!!

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:39 p.m. CST

    Speed racer was super watchable

    by Stengah

    if you've got a pair of eyes.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:41 p.m. CST

    This doesn't make any sense.

    by Ray Gamma

    I know who is making "Logan's Run", and it aint Bryan Singer.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:41 p.m. CST

    Well The Neo Vs Smith fight was close....

    by Alkohal

    if you think about it the neo/smith fight in revolutions was as close to a Superman fight scene that we've ever seen realized on film. If anything at least the action will be top notch.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:42 p.m. CST

    Wachowskis not a good fit!

    by Continentalop

    The two best movies they did, Bound & The Matrix (the first one), was about people who felt like losers and went against the system (be it male supremacy or a computer controlled virtual reality). The underdogs. Whatever Superman is, he isn't an underdog. As others have said, he is Truth, Justice and the American Way, not revenge of the ostracized and rejected.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:44 p.m. CST

    Damn You Michael Bay

    by MCMLXXVI

    Damn You Michael Bay

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:46 p.m. CST

    Singer fucked Superman, like the gay he is.

    by V'Shael

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:48 p.m. CST

    This is the best movie news I've heard in a while...

    by Ravetin

    ...My opinion towards the superman character has gone from lukewarm to just-fucking-stop-already. I've been dying for the Wachowskis to do a high profile adaptation, I didn't think it'd be this big.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:48 p.m. CST

    I really liked Brandon Routh

    by CherryValance

    If he's not gonna be Supes again, that's just not fair. He didn't fuck it up.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:48 p.m. CST

    As long as...

    by Kid Z

    ...they don't go back to JJ Abram's lame-ass script, I'm cool with the Wachowskis... as long as they don't do something stupid like making it all convoluted (Matrix sequels), have Superman Fed Ex "S" logo t-shirts to everyone in the penultimate scenes (V for Vendetta) or freak out everyone with bright, day glo colors (Speed Racer, which, sue me, I kind of liked except for the long, boring exposition parts that bogged it down... and John Goodman's frightening man-boobs).

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:50 p.m. CST

    What???

    by jsm1978

    "Logans run? wasn't this already remade as The Island?" <p> Uhm... no. Vastly different stories there. Sure, main characters are running from death, but that's been a plot point in many stories.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:52 p.m. CST

    It was the talented JACK Cole who created Plastic Man...

    by LoneGun

    ...not LB Cole. I'd love to see the Wachowski's do both PLASTIC MAN and SUPERMAN. P.M. needs their zany fearlessness, while SUPERMAN would benefit from their genuine abilities to create a grand epic. Hard to say which one I'd like to see more.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:53 p.m. CST

    YES!!! Bryan Singer is GONE!!! :D

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

    Best news I've heard all day. :)<p>As for the Sisterhood of the Traveling Wachowskis, after Speed Racer, I'm not sure WHAT to expect from them with Plastic Man. Might been great, might be a frighteningly bad acid flashback.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:56 p.m. CST

    I just realized Logan's Run is gheyer then Singer

    by DigitalDong

    I mean seriously, there was like 4 cocks in that movie and it was rated PG. And I'm always on the lookout for cocks. Ah god bless the 70's.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:57 p.m. CST

    As for villain(s)...

    by Kid Z

    ...Brainiac... go with the Superman: The Animated Series, Krypton-based origin. Gets rid of all the confusing Colu stuff that the non-comics rubes won't follow anyway, gives Brainy and Supes a good reason to fight, and makes things all tidy and easy to follow (which will help w/ dealing with meddling from the coke-addled suits at Warners). If they must have Luthor... go with John Byrne's evil businessman Lex. What with the current economic situation, the public at large can get behind the idea of hating a corporate titan again.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:57 p.m. CST

    Just don't go all GAY with this one...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    ...like Singer tried to do with the last one. The Wacky Bros can do some great films (The Matrix 1 and 2) and some idiotic films (Matrix 3 and Speed Racer). <p>Superman is a great franchise. These is sooooo much potential here...for good or bad. I just hope that they really think this one through. </p> ...and yes, I am glad that Singer is gone. He is overrated anyway.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:58 p.m. CST

    Why does everyone want to reinvent the wheel?

    by TakeItEasyMon

    Is it impossible to do an honest, non self-referential, non-satirical take on Superman? The animated series is a perfect guide on how to get it right. Don't sexy it up, it's just Superman. It sells itself. No skinny punk emo brooding wimp superman, you want someone like George Reeves, who even as Clark has your respect. Look at how the animated series treated Clark. He wasn't a pushover like Reeves was.... Anyway there's 70+ years of successful plotlines to use. This should be something uplifting and majestic. Superman is not TDK, we don't want brooding dark 'realistic' it just doesn't fit the character. You listening WB?

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:59 p.m. CST

    NOT ANOTHER SUPERMAN ORIGIN MOVIE!!!!!!!!

    by alice 13

    get me outta here mr wizard.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6 p.m. CST

    Speed Racer was great, so this could be amazing.

    by cinemixtape.com

    However, I was one of the few who liked Superman Returns and I think Brandon Routh should definitely be retained, if nothing else.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:01 p.m. CST

    Rachel McAdams IS "Lois Lane"

    by Mr. Profit

    Rose Byrne WAS hot, until she got way too fucking skinny. Rachel McAdams is one of the few actresses her age that can act worth a damn. She should have been cast as Rachel Dawes in Batman to save us the horror of Holmes and the fug of Gyllenhaal. Picking Bosworth seemed so fake to me, it was like what a gay man obsessed with "Blue Crush" would do. Then to top it off they put a horrible wig on her head. At least if they were trying to emulate Superman I and II with Returns, they should have gotten Jordana Brewster who has a Kidder-esque mouth. <P> But I cast my vote for McAdams.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:01 p.m. CST

    Give the brothers a chance

    by Chuck_Chuckwalla

    I think they can do Superman some real justice, as all their movies have had the same elements that would be a requirement for a great Superman flick — a mixture of comedy, pathos and 'HOLY FUCKING SHIT' special effects. And speaking of effects, if they can stay away from making it all look like the video game that was Speed Racer (and even the Matrix to some extent) then they've got my support. Singer dropped the ball on his turn at bat. And other than that space plane rescue scene (which, I'll admit is pretty fucking cool), I doubt I'll ever be able to sit through the entire length of Superman Returns again.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:02 p.m. CST

    HOLY FUCK!!!! DO IT!! Everyone gets what they want!!!!!!

    by Bob Cryptonight

    I love SUPERMAN RETURNS, but only in the context of the Donner flicks. And we don't need a FOURTH one of those. I hope they keep Routh because I like him and I think he can really do some good stuff with a non-Donner oriented director. And finally, the W brothers can really do great action (as long as they don't fuck it up with a SPEED RACER take).

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:03 p.m. CST

    Hope its a reboot so we get a threatening Luthor

    by blindambition238

    The mad scientist who wants just money characterization was old 20 years ago...

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:04 p.m. CST

    I want the Wachowskis to do more anime films...

    by The Amazing G

    and so what if Speed Racer bombed, who gives a flying fuck? it was a good movie and as far as Superman goes I liked Moriarty's idea

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:07 p.m. CST

    ATTENTION: DO NOT USE WILLIAMS' SCORE!

    by Bob Cryptonight

    That will only invite the whole Chris Reeve/Richard Donner vibe. It's not like the BOND theme which is more iconic to a CHARACTER. The Williams score (which I love) is also icon...but to an actor/director/era. It's too grand, which was okay in the 1970s, but a reboot needs something new.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:13 p.m. CST

    Singer doing Logan's Run?

    by mojoman69

    Oh my GOd! It will be a Homo fest for sure. I vote for Johnny Knoxville as Plastic Man.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:13 p.m. CST

    The Wachowski's

    by Mr. Profit

    Say what you will about their cinematic output as of late, but if anyone went into "Speed Racer" expecting an EPIC movie, they are stupid for believing so. "Speed Racer" was a silly movie for young boys. My nephew (who is 6) saw it and loved it. It also looked good and had innovative effects. But it was a kids movie. And I dare anyone tell me the random fight sequence in the hotel room wasn't one of the best choreographed fight seuences they have seen in a while. The Wachowski's need a film to redeem them in the eyes of rabid geeks, and a Superman movie might be it for them. Also, the end of Matrix Revolutions was the best Superman fight that didn't feature Superman.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:15 p.m. CST

    We need a SUPERMAN film with a completely new "tone"...

    by Bob Cryptonight

    No linear origin story...use flashbacks if needed. And much physical VIOLENCE (except for SUPERMAN II, this has never been done). We need to see Superman fighting crime, not rescuing people (sure, he does that, too, but in the comics usually he is stopping some kind of threat against Metropolis/humanity). This thing needs to be opened up to include science fiction villains--NOT Luthor (unless he gets to actually fight Superman somehow). Finally, make Clark more mild-mannered and not clumsy! Clumsy worked for Reeve, but it was a departure from the comics and, frankly, it gets to be more shtick than performance...even in subsequent Reeve performances).

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:17 p.m. CST

    Super.

    by Sithtastic

    Well, not sure what to think the creators of the Matrix doing this, I can say there are places this franchise really needs to go and can go without the constant Luthor v Kal-El dynamic. Doomsday. Brainiac. Even Metalo. All of these villians are completely worthy and AFTER you finally get Lex right THAT's what more than one fan would like to see.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:22 p.m. CST

    Also the cinematic Supes origin most people know...

    by blindambition238

    Has been outdated for a while in terms of the comics continuity... <p> So if they went with the current background redone in Superman Birthright it would be new to most people. Just no Smallville Lex Luthor or soul vision please...

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:22 p.m. CST

    They HAVE to bring back Routh!

    by dr sauch

    The kid is perfect. He was the only thing that other debacle had going for it.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:25 p.m. CST

    C3PO

    by Bob Cryptonight

    I've gotta believe that Singer's whole WRATH OF KHAN talk was his way of backpedaling to address the failure of RETURNS (which is a film I love, btw). He was clearly not prepared for it to "bomb" (which it didn't, technically, but it SOOO massively underperformed because it was not a film that could be watched over and over due to all of the "drama" involved and the lack of action). Singer did a great job...but it was by copying/coasting on what Richard Donner did. That's great. It was a love letter to the original Reeve movie. And even though Singer had plans for a second film using the "New Krypton" now orbiting in the solar system, and the return of those allegedly "dead" villains who got crushed on the pseudo-planet, he still had to work in the superkid and Lois & Clark's relationship which, frankly, should now be resolved since they had a kid together, more or less admitted love for each other, etc (ALL OF WHICH was started on two previous films Donner made in the 1970s). SUPERMAN RETURNS is a great "Superman III" that Donner never got to make, but I can't see a new Singer version going anywhere that could possibly redeem itself from what RETURNS ultimately is: a tribute to Donner and Reeve. I think a reboot is a great idea.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:27 p.m. CST

    I love the WILLIAMS music...but it brings too much baggage, imo.

    by Bob Cryptonight

    But still, it could work. But I'm prepared for them to move on.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:28 p.m. CST

    In the wrong hands...........

    by mojoman69

    Plastic Man could be WORSE that The Spirit( if possible) I hope the W bros are the right choice. I'd like Jon Hamm for Supes....

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:28 p.m. CST

    bored of Superman

    by misterk360

    Warner Brothers has the entire DC Universe at their fingertips and they want to keep making movies wit this dull and predictable character.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:30 p.m. CST

    I hope they get it

    by sHapesHiftinLizard

    They're who I've been wanting to get Superman. I loved Speed Racer, some good new stuff going on in there i thought. As long as they don't film 2 movies back to back their movies are great. Reloaded was a lot better than Revolutions, but the fight at the end of revolutions is the best job interview I've ever seen for Superman action. They'll do him justice.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:31 p.m. CST

    Routh is hardly perfect........

    by mojoman69

    He is a BAD copy of Chris Reeves.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:32 p.m. CST

    Surprisingly unsurprising

    by TroutMaskReplicant

    We all new the Wachowski's would be pitching their vision of Superman. And I had a feeling Singer would go back to Logan's Run.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:32 p.m. CST

    John Hamm for Supes....

    by mojoman69

    He's got the look, and unlike ROuth he can act.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:34 p.m. CST

    Speed Racer...

    by BrooseTheScharuk

    ...is actually the movie that sells me on a Wachowski Superman. I think they would give it the tone that the material demands. YES PLEASE!!

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:35 p.m. CST

    Oh, and John Hamm...

    by BrooseTheScharuk

    ...ABSOLUTELY John Hamm as 'Supes.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:35 p.m. CST

    Wachowski's should cast PATRICK WARBURTON

    by sarajevobot

    ...and bring Grant Morrison on as a writer. Do Morrison's All-Star Superman. Or the It's Superman novel. Or come up with something original with Morrison.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:36 p.m. CST

    or John Hamm

    by sarajevobot

    He'd be good, too. But Warburton'd be great.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:38 p.m. CST

    I don't like this idea

    by YackBacker

    I don't hate on the Wachowskis at all, trust me- I think they are visual pioneers. I just don't find their narratives that compelling. They are highly competent filmmakers, great crafts-err-people, but they are kind of flaky storytellers. That third MATRIX sucked balls.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:39 p.m. CST

    Will there be a rave in Superman?

    by Charlie_Allnut

    As doom nears for Metropolis Clark Kent attends an S&M rave and gets it on...

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:44 p.m. CST

    Logan's Run: The Usual Suspects

    by zinc_chameleon

    Since most people are too young to remember Logan's Run, which btw, was considered state-of-the-art scifi in 1976, Singer could certainly do it more along the lines of a film noir mystery. The 'there's no Sanctuary' ending of the first version was not what the novel intended, and something better could surely be done with the source material.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:44 p.m. CST

    If Singer does Logan's Run

    by mojoman69

    Boxx will look like Rosie from the Jetsons, LOL!

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:47 p.m. CST

    YAY! Singer's OUT!!! LET'S MAKE A SUPER Superman!

    by Alfie Boy

    With THE AMERICAN WAY LEFT IN THIS TIME!

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:50 p.m. CST

    DWAYNE JOHNSON IS SUPERMAN.

    by Shermdawg

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:50 p.m. CST

    DO IT WARNER BROS.

    by Shermdawg

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:51 p.m. CST

    CAST HIM.

    by Shermdawg

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:51 p.m. CST

    PLEASE.

    by Shermdawg

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:52 p.m. CST

    Filmmaking is in the toilet

    by kwisatzhaderach

    The Wachowskis doing Superman? Don't make me laugh.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:54 p.m. CST

    Speed Racer was moronic drivel...and DEF unwatchable

    by quantize

    and not even vaguely reminiscent of the fun of the cartoon... I was ready to dig it...it was boring eye candy directed by robots without a program

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:55 p.m. CST

    Bring back Brandon Routh

    by doubledown44

    He was easily the best part and he looks more like Superman than even two years ago.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:58 p.m. CST

    The Wachowski's could make a GREAT Superman movie

    by rhcp2sweet

    If they keep themselves in check with the writing aspect of the film. They tend to get convoluted and overlong (the architect in reloaded, the speech on capitalism in Speed Racer to name a few) but these guys have talent as directors, and Speed Racer shows they can do bright colored fun if they want. Just thinking about some of the amazing action shots these boys (girl?) could do with Superman makes my head spin. Say what you will about the Wachowskis, but they do stylish action scenes as good as anyone in the business.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 7:01 p.m. CST

    I'm over Superman.

    by FlickaPoo

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 7:02 p.m. CST

    ...Plastic Man sounds intriguing.

    by FlickaPoo

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 7:04 p.m. CST

    Dwayne Johnson is a lot of things, Sherm...

    by Sherman_Lives

    ...Superman ain't it. Besides, I was holding out hope for a SHAZAM! Movie with DJ as Black Adam and Patrick Warburton as Captain Marvel (the squint cinches the deal for me) and if they really wanted to make me happy, Armin Shimerman as Dr. Sivana. But I guess that project is dead.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 7:05 p.m. CST

    Let the healing BEGIN!!!

    by ugh

    Thx gawd Bryan Singer finally fell on his sword (...no pun intended). I'm all in favor of trashing everything "Superman Returns" EXCEPT Brandon Routh (I sincerely believe he didn't have a chance because they gave him nothing to work with and was forced into being a non-factor as opposed to being the wrong guy -- hopefully Silver and The Wachowskis give him an honest second look). Also I agree with poster KurtLockwood by presenting a possible story line in the next Nolan/Batman film (he doesn't need to be physically a part of the film, just a mention ala "Batman Begins" did with The Joker). As for misterk360 comment, you need Batman and Superman to be strong just to introduce the DC Universe in live-action film. They could have cameos in a Justice League film -- the story lines of the JL/JLU animated series has proven that it can work IF (AND THAT'S A BIG 'IF') handled properly. Kudos to all who mentioned Brainiac, Doomsday, and Darkseid -- all three are an absolute must have. If it was my way, Doomsday in the 1st film, Darkseid in the 2nd (with Darkseid putting a shitkicker-esq beatdown on Supes), then the Darkseid story continued along with Brainiac in the 3rd film. Top that, bitches!

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 7:11 p.m. CST

    btw about Logan's Run

    by The Amazing G

    I saw that movie as a kid and loved it

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 7:12 p.m. CST

    THEREEEEEEE IS NOOOOOOOO SAAAAANCTUARY!!!!

    by The Amazing G

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 7:13 p.m. CST

    Superman is Superlame.

    by gringostar

    could there be a more boring super hero? Also putting Superman in the Batman franchise would be a terrible, terrible mistake.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 7:17 p.m. CST

    Let Richard Donner make the movie.

    by Snookeroo

    At least he knows what the character is supposed to be.<br><br>So he's almost 80 years old -- so what?

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 7:23 p.m. CST

    "Final play in a Superbowl final"?!

    by nyj_et

    Has this reporter ever watched a football game?

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 7:40 p.m. CST

    Bruce Campbell would be a perfect Plastic Man

    by dogrobber

    if this had been filmed 15 - 20 years ago (DAMMIT!!!).

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 7:40 p.m. CST

    STFU!!!

    by Rommel Catuncan

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 7:55 p.m. CST

    KEEP THE WILLIAM'S SCORE!!!

    by Mike_D

    DAMMIT!!!

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 8 p.m. CST

    Whoever said Stephen Colbert as Plastic Man

    by phool2056

    That is the best casting idea I've ever heard.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 8:07 p.m. CST

    Jon Hamm. There is no other choice.

    by SnowDogs

    He is absolutely friggin' perfect to play Clark Kent and Superman. Make it a period film and it's an even better choice. And whoever said to cast the Rock is a stupid bastard--that's just retarded.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 8:18 p.m. CST

    Seriously if Mark Millar and the Wachowskis

    by StrokerX

    make a Superman trilogy...it will be the greatest thing to ever happen to movies.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 8:18 p.m. CST

    LOL @ Ballock

    by wixmmm

    this was hilarious: "its like being asked to take the final play in a superbowl final." -- clearly the comment of a real sports fan, lol. Even if you had a moderate amount of football knowledge, you'd say something like: "its like being the quarterback in the superbowl and getting the ball put in your hands with 2 minutes left, down by 4 points" The 'final play' either means everything or mean hail mary, but i would be able to get past the 'final play' part had he not said "in the superbowl final" FINAL? Its the fucking superbowl... why 'final'??? This is proof that geeks should stick to geek stuff.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 8:19 p.m. CST

    Jon Hamm is a terrible choice

    by doubledown44

    He is 5'11" and he would be in his 40s when the movie started. Plus, take a look at Routh now: http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q188/Anya7/Brandon%20Routh/gallery_enlarged-fanboyspremeire-re.jpg That is Superman.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 8:19 p.m. CST

    nyj_et

    by blindambition238

    Maybe they meant like the final play for a team whose losing by 42pts.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 8:23 p.m. CST

    Brandon Routh

    by doubledown44

    Sorry, here is the current pic of Routh (from the Fanboys premiere): http://tinyurl.com/ckt5rn

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 8:30 p.m. CST

    I like it... and about origins...

    by wixmmm

    I'm SOOOO sick of hearing people say 'no origins!" The whole Batman reboot would NOT be where it is today if they didn't have such a kick ass origin. They didn't NEED to do a batman origin. Think about the children! The Donner supermans were OK (superman 2 was quite good) but the donner superman origin could be done far better, and generations from now Donner won't hold up to the average kid... there are those who deny this, but its true. And like someone said-- how many origins have we had with superman in COMICS??? tons. Birthright proves that origin stories can be fantastic if they are approached correctly. It doesn't need to be a long origin, but it could be fantastic. Totally agree about darkseid. The guy who said do the death/supermen/return is an idiot (in this particular argument) I, nor the average moviegoer, nor the comic fan, nor the STUDIO wants to waste a 1/3 of a franchise on throwaway characters. The comics were OK at best... do brainiac in one, and darkseid in two, with a huge cliffhanger leading into an insane darkseid continuation in 3. And the bros know comics--they'll want to do the COMICS justice, unlike singer who wanted to do DONNER justice. Keep watching your donner-- i want to have a standalone trilogy that approaches all aspects of superman, and that includes a new take on the origin.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 8:34 p.m. CST

    hell yeah

    by wixmmm

    NOW routh is superman! I think his clark was FANTASTIC (i like him struggling to eat chinese in the background) But now that he's bigger, he can be the icon that superman needs to be. For all the people who won't let go of the past and have man crushes on donner, I have two things to say-- 1) be happy the new superman looks incredibly like reeves, who deserves to be honored more than donner. 2) if you want your donner fix read 'LAST SON' great teamup of geoff johns and donner.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 8:37 p.m. CST

    and by the way

    by wixmmm

    The scene with the 'apple' guy from diehard and routh, in Zack and Miri make a porno, was one of the more hilarious scenes this last year... especially the apple guy... man he was so sleezy and routh was a great, straight edge, nice, guy next door gay guy. I've seen that scene a few times and its just as hilarious with each new viewing. The rest of the movie--meh.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 8:46 p.m. CST

    The Wachowskis Are Officially A Joke

    by Media Messiah

    If Warner wants to kill off the Superman franchise entirely, then go ahead and put a gun to your collective heads, and pull the trigger by hiring them.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 8:47 p.m. CST

    Speed Racer: The Worst Movie Ever Made

    by Media Messiah

    Matrix: Reloaded and Matrix: Evolution, the 2nd and 3rd worst movies ever made!!!

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 8:56 p.m. CST

    Singer

    by Genre_Baby

    I hope Singer does go back to Logan's Run. I'd love to see something closer to the source material filmed. And Bryan seemed like he wanted to go back to the original novel.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 8:59 p.m. CST

    mark millar and wachowskis!

    by cloudrider`

    i second what StrokerX said above. that combo will be the greatest thing ever since avatar fuck you eyeballs. <p> of course, i've been dreaming forever for millar and cameron to do THE AUTHORITY. <p> badass superman and batman? check. moon-size mothership decked out like arabian vip suite? check. villains with power to destroy the whole planet? check. the entire earth population evacuating to another planet because of one said villain, leaving it empty for use as a battleground for the 6 members team against the one villain? check!!!

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:04 p.m. CST

    Media Messiah

    by cloudrider`

    worst movie ever? easy there. you lose your cred that way. as long as myers and sandler and those disasters movies keep getting made, no other movies can claim to be the worst ever. <p> and speed racer is solid.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:15 p.m. CST

    The Wachowskis lost hundreds of millions of bucks for WB

    by YackBacker

    Mind you they also made many more hundreds of millions for the studio as well. But in these HARD ECONOMIC TIMES (fuck that phrase is clichéd) I'm wondering if WB will really let these spend-happy directors take over SUPERMAN.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:18 p.m. CST

    They should have gone with the Wachowskis in the first place

    by SifoDyasJr.

    The scene in Matrix 2 where Keanu does the Superman pose high above the city said to me that they get it. I would pay to see it (and I absolutely wouldn't pay to see another Singer one).

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:19 p.m. CST

    Singer "refused"?!?!?!

    by ColloquiallyBorn

    The best line in this whole article is: "Bryan Singer has refused to undertake a re-boot of the Superman franchise and has left the Executives at WB with no choice but to take a fresh creative direction." <p>I mean seriously, he decided not to continue the whole shitty storyline he messed up after the whole speech about how enthousiastic he was about the next films?!?! Or was he told to refuse to continue the franchise!?<p>Well in the long run I think this was basically the BEST news ever for the franchise. After the kid, the shitty mother Lane, the retarded plans of a man who wanted money in the first movie to continue on his pursuit of the worst land ever to be put on the market, the even shittier Olsen who looked like he was stucked in the 50's and a bit retarded, the calm Perry White ... and on... Singer did not refused, he was told to let go and move on to something he couldn't crap on.<p>But then again, putting the Wachowskis in charge does makeme wonder if that could be good or bad? As Media Messiah mentions, Speed Racer was one of the worst movies ever made, I totally agree, but then again Speed Racer cartoons aren't that good to begin with and are probably the worst idea ever put on the table to make a movie out of, yet they did stick to the storyline instead of going really off base like Singer did. <p>So if they stick with the actual Superman ideas, concept and origins they might actually make somthing good. They do stick to the storylines... <p> THey did prove that they were able to create a lot of special effects the way they should be made; When K Reeves flies off, it looks more like reality than anything Singer did with 250+Millions in his pocket.<p>If they can stick to some of the storylines that were put out there in the past 20 years and ot have to go all the way back to re-tell the full origin then that should be fine. We should be pleased. Some put out stories that they liked about the origin of Superman.<p>I'll put out the series put out by Byrne, THe Man of Steel. Tell me I'm wrong but he completely humanized him by making him more vunerable than ever before, limiting his powers, making lose it a little bit when he saves the plane Lois was in and being mobbed by people. I think the whole part where he's sitting there inside his room on the farm and telling Ma and Pa Kent about all of them trying to get a piece of him was completely human. <p>He captured not only the essence of the legend, but also the man that always got put aside. He also made Clark a football star; not a clumbsy dimwitt and he established his roots in Smallville without making him always looked like the class idiot. I mean any teen that becomes stronger and stronger will use that to his advantage, that isuntil the day Pa Kent brings him into the barn and shows him where he comes from.<p>I'm just happy Singer is off; WB realized that they would need to reboot instead of killing off the offspring and everyone else that would make this way to freaking dark for a Superman story. The W bros might have a chance, but only ONE chance. Either it goes or it will be the end of any Superman movie for the next 50 years. And if they use Routh again, I have no problem with that, but make the guy pump more plates to bulk him up. He looked way to childish in SR.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:19 p.m. CST

    Singer "refused"?!?!?!

    by ColloquiallyBorn

    The best line in this whole article is: "Bryan Singer has refused to undertake a re-boot of the Superman franchise and has left the Executives at WB with no choice but to take a fresh creative direction." <p>I mean seriously, he decided not to continue the whole shitty storyline he messed up after the whole speech about how enthousiastic he was about the next films?!?! Or was he told to refuse to continue the franchise!?<p>Well in the long run I think this was basically the BEST news ever for the franchise. After the kid, the shitty mother Lane, the retarded plans of a man who wanted money in the first movie to continue on his pursuit of the worst land ever to be put on the market, the even shittier Olsen who looked like he was stucked in the 50's and a bit retarded, the calm Perry White ... and on... Singer did not refused, he was told to let go and move on to something he couldn't crap on.<p>But then again, putting the Wachowskis in charge does makeme wonder if that could be good or bad? As Media Messiah mentions, Speed Racer was one of the worst movies ever made, I totally agree, but then again Speed Racer cartoons aren't that good to begin with and are probably the worst idea ever put on the table to make a movie out of, yet they did stick to the storyline instead of going really off base like Singer did. <p>So if they stick with the actual Superman ideas, concept and origins they might actually make somthing good. They do stick to the storylines... <p> THey did prove that they were able to create a lot of special effects the way they should be made; When K Reeves flies off, it looks more like reality than anything Singer did with 250+Millions in his pocket.<p>If they can stick to some of the storylines that were put out there in the past 20 years and ot have to go all the way back to re-tell the full origin then that should be fine. We should be pleased. Some put out stories that they liked about the origin of Superman.<p>I'll put out the series put out by Byrne, THe Man of Steel. Tell me I'm wrong but he completely humanized him by making him more vunerable than ever before, limiting his powers, making lose it a little bit when he saves the plane Lois was in and being mobbed by people. I think the whole part where he's sitting there inside his room on the farm and telling Ma and Pa Kent about all of them trying to get a piece of him was completely human. <p>He captured not only the essence of the legend, but also the man that always got put aside. He also made Clark a football star; not a clumbsy dimwitt and he established his roots in Smallville without making him always looked like the class idiot. I mean any teen that becomes stronger and stronger will use that to his advantage, that isuntil the day Pa Kent brings him into the barn and shows him where he comes from.<p>I'm just happy Singer is off; WB realized that they would need to reboot instead of killing off the offspring and everyone else that would make this way to freaking dark for a Superman story. The W bros might have a chance, but only ONE chance. Either it goes or it will be the end of any Superman movie for the next 50 years. And if they use Routh again, I have no problem with that, but make the guy pump more plates to bulk him up. He looked way to childish in SR.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:19 p.m. CST

    Singer "refused"?!?!?!

    by ColloquiallyBorn

    The best line in this whole article is: "Bryan Singer has refused to undertake a re-boot of the Superman franchise and has left the Executives at WB with no choice but to take a fresh creative direction." <p>I mean seriously, he decided not to continue the whole shitty storyline he messed up after the whole speech about how enthousiastic he was about the next films?!?! Or was he told to refuse to continue the franchise!?<p>Well in the long run I think this was basically the BEST news ever for the franchise. After the kid, the shitty mother Lane, the retarded plans of a man who wanted money in the first movie to continue on his pursuit of the worst land ever to be put on the market, the even shittier Olsen who looked like he was stucked in the 50's and a bit retarded, the calm Perry White ... and on... Singer did not refused, he was told to let go and move on to something he couldn't crap on.<p>But then again, putting the Wachowskis in charge does makeme wonder if that could be good or bad? As Media Messiah mentions, Speed Racer was one of the worst movies ever made, I totally agree, but then again Speed Racer cartoons aren't that good to begin with and are probably the worst idea ever put on the table to make a movie out of, yet they did stick to the storyline instead of going really off base like Singer did. <p>So if they stick with the actual Superman ideas, concept and origins they might actually make somthing good. They do stick to the storylines... <p> THey did prove that they were able to create a lot of special effects the way they should be made; When K Reeves flies off, it looks more like reality than anything Singer did with 250+Millions in his pocket.<p>If they can stick to some of the storylines that were put out there in the past 20 years and ot have to go all the way back to re-tell the full origin then that should be fine. We should be pleased. Some put out stories that they liked about the origin of Superman.<p>I'll put out the series put out by Byrne, THe Man of Steel. Tell me I'm wrong but he completely humanized him by making him more vunerable than ever before, limiting his powers, making lose it a little bit when he saves the plane Lois was in and being mobbed by people. I think the whole part where he's sitting there inside his room on the farm and telling Ma and Pa Kent about all of them trying to get a piece of him was completely human. <p>He captured not only the essence of the legend, but also the man that always got put aside. He also made Clark a football star; not a clumbsy dimwitt and he established his roots in Smallville without making him always looked like the class idiot. I mean any teen that becomes stronger and stronger will use that to his advantage, that isuntil the day Pa Kent brings him into the barn and shows him where he comes from.<p>I'm just happy Singer is off; WB realized that they would need to reboot instead of killing off the offspring and everyone else that would make this way to freaking dark for a Superman story. The W bros might have a chance, but only ONE chance. Either it goes or it will be the end of any Superman movie for the next 50 years. And if they use Routh again, I have no problem with that, but make the guy pump more plates to bulk him up. He looked way to childish in SR.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:19 p.m. CST

    Singer "refused"?!?!?!

    by ColloquiallyBorn

    The best line in this whole article is: "Bryan Singer has refused to undertake a re-boot of the Superman franchise and has left the Executives at WB with no choice but to take a fresh creative direction." <p>I mean seriously, he decided not to continue the whole shitty storyline he messed up after the whole speech about how enthousiastic he was about the next films?!?! Or was he told to refuse to continue the franchise!?<p>Well in the long run I think this was basically the BEST news ever for the franchise. After the kid, the shitty mother Lane, the retarded plans of a man who wanted money in the first movie to continue on his pursuit of the worst land ever to be put on the market, the even shittier Olsen who looked like he was stucked in the 50's and a bit retarded, the calm Perry White ... and on... Singer did not refused, he was told to let go and move on to something he couldn't crap on.<p>But then again, putting the Wachowskis in charge does makeme wonder if that could be good or bad? As Media Messiah mentions, Speed Racer was one of the worst movies ever made, I totally agree, but then again Speed Racer cartoons aren't that good to begin with and are probably the worst idea ever put on the table to make a movie out of, yet they did stick to the storyline instead of going really off base like Singer did. <p>So if they stick with the actual Superman ideas, concept and origins they might actually make somthing good. They do stick to the storylines... <p> THey did prove that they were able to create a lot of special effects the way they should be made; When K Reeves flies off, it looks more like reality than anything Singer did with 250+Millions in his pocket.<p>If they can stick to some of the storylines that were put out there in the past 20 years and ot have to go all the way back to re-tell the full origin then that should be fine. We should be pleased. Some put out stories that they liked about the origin of Superman.<p>I'll put out the series put out by Byrne, THe Man of Steel. Tell me I'm wrong but he completely humanized him by making him more vunerable than ever before, limiting his powers, making lose it a little bit when he saves the plane Lois was in and being mobbed by people. I think the whole part where he's sitting there inside his room on the farm and telling Ma and Pa Kent about all of them trying to get a piece of him was completely human. <p>He captured not only the essence of the legend, but also the man that always got put aside. He also made Clark a football star; not a clumbsy dimwitt and he established his roots in Smallville without making him always looked like the class idiot. I mean any teen that becomes stronger and stronger will use that to his advantage, that isuntil the day Pa Kent brings him into the barn and shows him where he comes from.<p>I'm just happy Singer is off; WB realized that they would need to reboot instead of killing off the offspring and everyone else that would make this way to freaking dark for a Superman story. The W bros might have a chance, but only ONE chance. Either it goes or it will be the end of any Superman movie for the next 50 years. And if they use Routh again, I have no problem with that, but make the guy pump more plates to bulk him up. He looked way to childish in SR.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:19 p.m. CST

    Singer "refused"?!?!?!

    by ColloquiallyBorn

    The best line in this whole article is: "Bryan Singer has refused to undertake a re-boot of the Superman franchise and has left the Executives at WB with no choice but to take a fresh creative direction." <p>I mean seriously, he decided not to continue the whole shitty storyline he messed up after the whole speech about how enthousiastic he was about the next films?!?! Or was he told to refuse to continue the franchise!?<p>Well in the long run I think this was basically the BEST news ever for the franchise. After the kid, the shitty mother Lane, the retarded plans of a man who wanted money in the first movie to continue on his pursuit of the worst land ever to be put on the market, the even shittier Olsen who looked like he was stucked in the 50's and a bit retarded, the calm Perry White ... and on... Singer did not refused, he was told to let go and move on to something he couldn't crap on.<p>But then again, putting the Wachowskis in charge does makeme wonder if that could be good or bad? As Media Messiah mentions, Speed Racer was one of the worst movies ever made, I totally agree, but then again Speed Racer cartoons aren't that good to begin with and are probably the worst idea ever put on the table to make a movie out of, yet they did stick to the storyline instead of going really off base like Singer did. <p>So if they stick with the actual Superman ideas, concept and origins they might actually make somthing good. They do stick to the storylines... <p> THey did prove that they were able to create a lot of special effects the way they should be made; When K Reeves flies off, it looks more like reality than anything Singer did with 250+Millions in his pocket.<p>If they can stick to some of the storylines that were put out there in the past 20 years and ot have to go all the way back to re-tell the full origin then that should be fine. We should be pleased. Some put out stories that they liked about the origin of Superman.<p>I'll put out the series put out by Byrne, THe Man of Steel. Tell me I'm wrong but he completely humanized him by making him more vunerable than ever before, limiting his powers, making lose it a little bit when he saves the plane Lois was in and being mobbed by people. I think the whole part where he's sitting there inside his room on the farm and telling Ma and Pa Kent about all of them trying to get a piece of him was completely human. <p>He captured not only the essence of the legend, but also the man that always got put aside. He also made Clark a football star; not a clumbsy dimwitt and he established his roots in Smallville without making him always looked like the class idiot. I mean any teen that becomes stronger and stronger will use that to his advantage, that isuntil the day Pa Kent brings him into the barn and shows him where he comes from.<p>I'm just happy Singer is off; WB realized that they would need to reboot instead of killing off the offspring and everyone else that would make this way to freaking dark for a Superman story. The W bros might have a chance, but only ONE chance. Either it goes or it will be the end of any Superman movie for the next 50 years. And if they use Routh again, I have no problem with that, but make the guy pump more plates to bulk him up. He looked way to childish in SR.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:19 p.m. CST

    ugh

    by bluetunehead

    seriously, another reboot?? the last thing we need is clark kent growing up on the farm AGAIN. it's been done.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:19 p.m. CST

    WTF!?!? ...

    by ColloquiallyBorn

    3 times the same post.. Man.. Talk about a computer on steroids!

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:28 p.m. CST

    Does this mean the Gay robot will be back in the script?

    by SomaShine

    just asking

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:32 p.m. CST

    again, origin

    by wixmmm

    Bluetunehead-- what do you mean by 'AGAIN'??? Superman's origin (in the movies) has been told ONCE. With today's technology and origin could be nuts. You act like there have been countless superman stories that all told the origin: IT WAS DONE ONCE!!! With batman begins, did you also say "Do we need ANOTHER origin... AGAIN???" As we all know, the answer to that queastion was YES. 20-30 minutes of a 2 hour superman movie leading into a trilogy is NOTHING. Man, these origin hater piss me off. Donners take will simply NOT DO when it comes to the origin. I want a reboot start to finish and that begins with a new origin. AGAIN i'll say it: the comics have redone the origin many times... why? because there's always new things to do with it. Jesus... enough with the origin complaining. it seems to be the fashionable thing to bitch about here.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:44 p.m. CST

    bluetunehead

    by ugh

    WTF are you talking about? I didn't say reboot, or re-imaging, or origin story. did you mistakenly reply to me when you meant to to reply to someone else? you're confusing me, so please explain.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:51 p.m. CST

    Portray Superman real, like a bum abusing his kid

    by crayotic

    That's how JCVD would do it

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:51 p.m. CST

    wixmmm

    by Rommel Catuncan

    You're right, "Birthright" didn't spend ages on the origin- it showed a different take on Krypton, it didn't obsess over Clark as a young boy in Smallville. <P> It all depends on what the writers and director decide to do with the origin. Nolan jumped around with the timeline to keep it interesting (for Batman's origins.)

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:54 p.m. CST

    Speed Racer

    by Rommel Catuncan

    was pretty good. It was great in places, weak in others, but I enjoyed it.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:57 p.m. CST

    Emile Hirsch as the Gay Robot!

    by Rommel Catuncan

    C'mon...

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:01 p.m. CST

    I would pay to see a Wachowski Superman

    by Frank Einstein

    and Plastic Man

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:05 p.m. CST

    plastic man

    by wixmmm

    am i wrong, or was plastic man actually made interesting in (i forget) either Identity Crisis or 52??? I remember reading something where he was one of the main characters and I thought, wow, i never thought they'd make that superhero that interesting.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:08 p.m. CST

    Waijowki's Superman Reboot

    by BobParr

    This time he's a post-op tranny.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:10 p.m. CST

    OH, FUCK NO!

    by ironic_name

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:13 p.m. CST

    "Thank you, Grace, but I think you're wrong."

    by Rommel Catuncan

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:15 p.m. CST

    Good

    by Toonol

    Speed Racer was one of the best movies of '08. Look at it this way: The only disappointment the Wachowskis have given us are the Matrix sequels. V for Vendetta was good. Animatrix, Matrix were good. Speed Racer was great. I've been told Bound was good.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:26 p.m. CST

    this is AWESOME news. wachowskis are perfect for both.

    by THE_ONE_MAN_GANG

    they are revolutionaries. its funny that the same idiots that post here about about all these new films being copycats and remakes- are the same people who wouldnt want the brothers, who are trend setters, to take on the superman franchise. ridiculous. also, bryan singer CAN.NOT.DO.AN.ACTION.FILM.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:29 p.m. CST

    bound was veeery good

    by cloudrider`

    the matrix sequels are huge travesty. but when the bros are good, they can be really good. keep your hope up guys.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:39 p.m. CST

    Wixmmm

    by dogrobber

    You may be thinking of Ralph Dibny - the Elongated Man - at least in the case of 'Identity Crisis'. I lost interest in '52', which did feature Dibny at the beginning, but may have also included Plas.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:42 p.m. CST

    there are two kind of directors

    by cloudrider`

    nerd directors and geek directors. there are those who read detective novels growing up and there are those that like to read comics. the former group can have the most analytical minds, but they suck when imagining huge spectacles, like singer and nolan. the later group may not be as smart, but they do know to dream huge kickass sequences. <p> which is why superman was never suited for singer. and the wachowskis are that rare breed of combo nerd geek. superman is perfect project for me. i actually thought the donner's movies are incredibly stupid and cartoonish, perfect casting aside. just because it's a movie about a man flying in red underoos doesn't excuse it.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:42 p.m. CST

    williams score

    by dahveed1972

    please do NOT include the old supes score. I grew up with the donner/reeves superman movies, but its been 30 frickin years ffs!!! we dont need a sequel/homage to those movies! Keep Routh if you must, but lets have a some new ideas for gods sake. Let BK Vaughn or someone of that ilk write a kickass script, with an extremely powerful compelling villian, and some unique over the top set pieces, and give it to a top rate proven director. Ditch Kate Bosworth, who i like but was miscast, and ditch the kid. What sucks is, Lex Luthor could have been a formidable antagonist if the character had actually been updated to what he is in the recent comics: a scientific/financial supergenius. Instead we get a lamer, smaller, less amusing version of the Hackman version. Okay on second thought, maybe a complete reboot is in order ala Hulk.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:49 p.m. CST

    Supes

    by dahveed1972

    If they do recast, which is a serious possibility, who among KNOWN actors could pull it off? Routh was not the biggest problem with SR, but he didn't add much either. Especially his Clark Kent. wow remember when Tim Burton was slated to direct a Supes movie and he wanted Nick Cage? That was a long fucking time ago...

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:50 p.m. CST

    perfect project for THEM

    by cloudrider`

    is what i meant

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:52 p.m. CST

    one thing about the donners supermans

    by wixmmm

    Williams score is unparralled and NOTHING will 'feel' more superman than his music. You have GOT to keep that soundtrack. AND THANK GOD! FINALLY, cloudrider, i thought i was alone in me thinking donners are 'stupid and cartoonish' thats EXACTLY how they should be described. Like i said, there is no way that when i have a kid old enough to watch movies that he will like donner's superman. It is already dated, it will be unwatchable for future generations (MAYBE sup 2 will hold up a little better). Some people are WAY too in love with the original supermans cause they were incredible for their time.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:57 p.m. CST

    They don't need to recast

    by doubledown44

    They have their Superman in Routh. We don't need a Cage or a Fraser. Ugh.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:02 p.m. CST

    SPEED RACER PHUCED MY EYEBALLS

    by Bishop6

    what a pile of utter fucking sucky fucking fuck shit that was...Im glad it bombed at the box office I hope it hurt someone badly

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:03 p.m. CST

    Donner

    by Charlie_Allnut

    We already saw Donner's Superman...lets give a young talented director w/ passion and a vision for the story have a crack at it. The problem w/ SR was it was beholden to the Donner movies...Routh was imitating Reeves instead of making the character his own. Lets start from scratch and have a fresh start.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:04 p.m. CST

    and singer

    by wixmmm

    ANOTHER GREAT POST: singer CANNOT do action. Have any of you watched X-men recently? I couldn't even get through it... the only thing it had going for it was it was the first superhero movie of the new generation of superhero movies. It showed the potential of the genre, but now it just does not hold up with its replay value. I think the bros would do superman justice--they (unlike a certain Tim Kring) KNOW comics, and LOVE comics, and want to do justice to the, what now? COMICS. Plus, we all know they can do rediculous action. Taking it a step further--they have each other, which i think is a factor, because both of them are comics guys, so they could very well keep each other in check. For instance, a hypothetical conversation: <br><br>"I got it! We should have Luthor steal a crystal so he can make his own island and make billions in real estate!"<br> "But, hasn't that been done?" <br>"ok, well then what if we mix the island with kryptonite so superman can't stop luthor!"<br> "ok, but this is a superman movie, he's GOT to stop luthor"<br> "well then we'll have him get his ass kicked, and we'll have his kid--"<br> "wait, his kid?" <br>"yeah, his kid, anyways, in the climax we'll have his kid in a helicopter--"<br> "wait, whats his kid doing in a helicopter during the climax?"<br> "oh, well lois brought him with her when she was trying to get the scoop on luthor"<br> "...that's god awful parenting"<br> "..."<br> "..."<br> "Ok, well let me finish--so superman gets his ass kicked, but saved by his 'son' and then he flies through the clouds and basks in the sun and comes down and flies the entire kryptonite continent up in space!"<br> "..."<br> "so?"<br> "...thats fucking retarded."<br> "ok, lets go back to the drawing board."

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:08 p.m. CST

    williams score

    by dahveed1972

    if you keep the score, youre doing an homage. period. the score is iconic to be sure, but if youre gonna do an original movie for the next generation, you need a new score. the score, along with chris reeve, is the one thing MOST associated with the old movies. so if you want a clean break you need a totally new score by a talented composer. sorry wixmmm

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:08 p.m. CST

    As Long as Singer is really out...

    by hank henshaw

    that is cool news. I'm not sure about the Matrix brothers... I doubt they will end helming the project anyways. The Donner movie(s) is a decent representation of what comics were like in the Silver Age, but it is about time a more "contemporary" take of the comics makes it to the big screen (i.e. Luthor as an evil businessman, Clark as the real persona and Superman the "disguise", have a powerful physical threat/villain to fight Supes other than Lex Luthor).

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:12 p.m. CST

    plastic man

    by dahveed1972

    how bout they tackle Green Lantern, the Flash, Wonder Woman, Aquaman and about a dozen other more important DC characters b4 they move on to Plastic Man? What's next, the Blue Beetle? Booster Gold? How bout a Brokebackesque art film starring the Pied Piper?

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:13 p.m. CST

    the score

    by dahveed1972

    In fact, the original supes score is such a fixture in our collective conscience, any new movie that includes immediately becomes a SEQUEL regardless of the plot.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:14 p.m. CST

    in booster gold's defense

    by wixmmm

    geoff johns made booster gold interesting--further proof that geoff johns is a superhero himself.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:20 p.m. CST

    granted

    by dahveed1972

    not dissing geoff or booster gold. and i dont have a huge prob with dc and marvel digging up old characters if theyre done well. but ANY superhero movie, if done right, takes time and money to produce, and probably means a delay to the dev of the abovementioned heros' movies.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:25 p.m. CST

    YES!!! GO WACHOWSKIS GO!!!

    by Johnno

    Listen to me you retards! Just because of their resume, doesn't mean the Wachowskis are going to emo up, philosophize and put black leather on fucking SUperman alright... Bound & The Matrix franchise were their babies they could do whatever they wanted with it. In fact Bound was basically a pitch simply to do the Matrix so sue them for being similar. V for Vendetta in tone and theme was suitable. Speed Racer was awesome! Not just faithful to the material in todays world with Singers superman and Bayformers, but it elevated it greatly which admittedly isn't much considering it's Speed Racer, but the awesome thing about it is how the Wachowskis went above and beyond with Speed Racer, unafraid to take risks and made one of the most exhilirating and thoroughly enjoyable kids films I've ever seen! An accomplishment the likes I've never witnessed in this industry which you hypocrites are saying never does anything original. Fuck you!<br><br>Anyway I firmly do believe the Wachowskis can give us the Superman we're waiting for! Okay sure, they might get long winded in their writing. But they've got good concepts and story in every one of them. Just have them do the first draft and call someone in to rewrite and edit it with them that'll keep in all the good stuff and trim the excess. Not hard to do!<br><br>As for origins of Superman, I second the idea of the more krypton focused origin, something that's fresh even if it's the same thing. And as for superman, I'm alright with Routh, but better idea, drop him and find someone with actual muscles who has a big imposing presence! Look up images painted by Alex Ross and give me a Superman who looks like that! Majestic, colourful, FUN! Forget Donner, forget everything from before! Just like how Nolan gave us the new Batman, Superman needs to be drastically changed from the films before and more faithful to the comics! The Wachowskis are perfect and the action and effects should be top notch! DO IT WB!!! Wachowskis for Superman!!!

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:27 p.m. CST

    JON HAMM and PATRICK WARBURTON???

    by Bob Cryptonight

    Both of those guys photograph way too old (not sure how old they really are). Hamm seems like the guy ALL OF YOU want to play your favorite superheroes (I assume it is because he has a square jaw?). I don't think he could be too convincing as Superman...but maybe so if Supes is an older version. But WARBURTON...come on, this guy is ONLY a comic actor. He could most DEFINITELY play Superman in an Adam West-toned version, but that guy is simply a joke when trying to act seriously. He's funny, but not Superman. Plus...much too old and his eyes are too squinty. He could pull off Captain Marvel, though. Age wouldn't matter and the squinting would actually help.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:30 p.m. CST

    Plastic Man sucks, and the W Bros made one good movie

    by Heckles

    The Matrix. That's it.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:31 p.m. CST

    Everyone wins

    by hallmitchell

    Go forward with this. Where is justice league?

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:40 p.m. CST

    to ugh

    by bluetunehead

    my first "ugh" post wasn't directed at you. i was saying "ugh" as in the word or figure of speech.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:43 p.m. CST

    Superman? who cares?

    by DarthJedi

    Seriously, I could care less about another Superman movie. SR was ok, and a decent reboot, but man is that story just getting old. I would much rather see a Logan reboot. If they stay as close to the novel as possible, it could be a great flick as the novel is vastly different from the original movie. Man, what I would give to see the original sandman gun from the novel on the big screen! Although I just can't see anyone else by Jenny Agutter as Jessica.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:54 p.m. CST

    Directed by Zack Snyder

    by snakecharmer

    Doesn't that make more sense? He has proven that he can handle these kind of stories. I love the W brothers but I think they've lost their touch. I was a big Matrix trilogy fan. I do agree that the final fight in Revolutions was really amazing but by then the audience was ready to go home. Peace.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:56 p.m. CST

    DarthJedi

    by Kal Reeve

    Most of the world cares about the World's Greatest Superhero. Look at this talkback, look at any aintitcool talk back concerning Superman - they are always some of the most highly discussed threads on the site.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 12:02 a.m. CST

    Screams "who still hires the W Brothers"

    by redfist

    The Matrix Trilogy....Speed Racer...WTF singer has a better track record than the crossdresser and his brother.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 12:09 a.m. CST

    Sounds fake, hope it's true though!

    by NinjaRap

    I love the Matrix trilogy (mostly the first two) and Speed Racer was phenomenal. Also really like their old Plastic Man script. Bring this on.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 12:13 a.m. CST

    If it's like the first Matrix, then fine, if it's like CGI-Neo i

    by slder78

    Matrix 2 & 3 then no. What i didn't like about Superman return is the same thing I didn't like about Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions - CGI Acting and action. It looks horrible and it immediately takes me out of the films. Superman should never ever be CGI, I don't care about wire work, but the reason the Nolan Batmans work for me, is not once did I ever think that Bale wasn't on screen as Batman.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 12:14 a.m. CST

    PAUL GROSS for superman!!!

    by cloudrider`

    forget routh. if you want to get it right this time, then no casting is more perfect than paul gross as superman. see due south and tell me he's not playing superman week in and week out! if you can have a brit batman, then surely we can have a canadian be supes.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 12:27 a.m. CST

    Johnny Knoxville for Plastic Man...

    by Lord John Whorfin

    he'd be great. Keep Routh as Superman. The Wachowski Brothers would knock either out of the fucking park. And seriously? It's been, what, six years since Matrix Revolutions came out and the best you can muster is "There was a rave... durrrrr... one of them had a sex change... duhhhh"? A Wachowski Brothers DCU movie will utterly and completely own your boring, realistic, eye makeup-wearing Batman movies.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 12:28 a.m. CST

    YESS

    by Zach_Talks_Back

    Do you want a superman that flys around and actually has fist fights? Ever sense I watched Matrix Revolutions I knew they were perfect.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 12:33 a.m. CST

    DWAYNE JOHNSON IS SUPERMAN.

    by Shermdawg

    TOMMY LEE JONES IS JONATHAN KENT.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 12:33 a.m. CST

    Why remake perfect films?

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    I don't get it.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 12:35 a.m. CST

    DWAYNE JOHNSON IS SUPERMAN.

    by Shermdawg

    Now that Singer is gone, can Rothman please make nice with him and get him back to redo X3?

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 12:48 a.m. CST

    Brad Bird should direct the next Superman movie...

    by BartholomewNeff

    Forget about that 1906 stuff, do Clark Kent, baby!

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 1:08 a.m. CST

    Looks like crap

    by theplant

    Tarantino is a has been - never was. No talent hack now a parody of himself.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 1:21 a.m. CST

    if you want to get animator to direct supes

    by cloudrider`

    might as well be miyazaki. no one does flying scenes more thrilling and majestic as he has done in all his films. and he's more original and imaginative than brad bird.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 1:35 a.m. CST

    Some Superman requests

    by successor

    <p>Can we please have Clark Kent be a mild-mannered reporter? As in not a doofus or a geek. Just an ordinary guy you wouldn't look twice at on the street.</p> <p>And as for Superman, can he please fucking do something super for once? In Superman Returns he saved a shuttle, stopped some bullets and lifted a continent. Whoop-dee-do. Oh yeah, and he spent part of the third act unconscious in the back of a plane. Way to use the hero, Singer.</p> <p>The hell with that, I want him saving several cities in seconds, breaking apart Death Star sized asteroids, stopping floods, preventing the entire Earth from crumbling to pieces, picking up bullet trains with his bare hands, fighting super villains that knock his ass across the Earth, fighting an army of millions of robots and beating them. If he's Superman, let him do something SUPER! No whiny emo crap. And make it Truth, Justice and the American Way.</p> <p>Forget the origin story. We don't need it. Superman's been around for seventy years. Practically everybody on Earth knows Superman and his origin story. Rehashing it yet again would be pointless.</p>

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 1:38 a.m. CST

    And Godzilla. It needs a Godzilla

    by Rommel Catuncan

    or something Godzilla like.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 1:39 a.m. CST

    And a souffle. He needs to cook a souffle

    by Rommel Catuncan

    Real quick.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 1:41 a.m. CST

    Not Sure about another Supes movie. Give us Legion, or GL, hell

    by The Founder

    WB needs to move on from Superman. i like Supes but Singer screwed up and another isn't going to have the anticipation because it's only been like 2 years.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 1:47 a.m. CST

    They better have Luthor, seriously

    by Continentalop

    The only foe who Superman has a true connection with his Luthor. Batman can interact with Joker, Ra's al Ghul, Catwoman and even Two-Face. Superman's only true nemesis that he shares some kind of relationship with is Luthor. Plus we have yet to see a truly scary, evil genius Luthor. <p> Not saying it should be just Luthor. If you look at the best stories in Superman's history, it usually involves Luthor creating or teaming up with someone to take out Superman. He could team up with Brainiac, free Zod from the Phantom Zone, or create Bizarro or Metallo. Just make sure Luthor is involved.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 1:51 a.m. CST

    to bluetunehead

    by ugh

    thanks for the clarification

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 2:11 a.m. CST

    Routh is the guy to play Superman

    by doubledown44

    Check out this comparison shot of him: http://tinyurl.com/cs9tnf On the left is 2006, on the right is 2009. He is the right size for the role now.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 2:34 a.m. CST

    Keep Routh, get The Rock for his own franchise

    by Brody77

    Cos the guy deserves to be a massive star. Even if he doesn't go by "The Rock" these days. Glad Singer is gone, his Superman homage was shite. And the cape looked wierd.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 2:47 a.m. CST

    DON'T FUCKING REMAKE SUPERMAN AGAIN!

    by F-18

    Why in the hell does it need to be remade a third time? <p> Make something ORIGINAL you fuckers. <p> FUCK

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 2:48 a.m. CST

    Wachowskis could do anything and I'd see it.

    by TheDark0Knight

    Superman would be ill.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 2:59 a.m. CST

    I'd much rather see the Wachowskis

    by geek molester

    do Plastic Man and Singer do the sequel to the underrated Superman Returns. Gee, I can't imaaaaaagine why he turned down their offer to reboot Superman into some shit-fest X3/F4-like wankfest retard-bait for idiotic American filmgoers.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 3:02 a.m. CST

    and hopefully Superman re-Returns

    by geek molester

    is as bad-ass as Matrix Revolutions. Cuz dat shit was da bomb.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 3:28 a.m. CST

    ENOUGH!

    by maybe banana-nut

    Supe is an icon, a fantasy but as a protagonist he's completely rung-out boring! The prospect of directing Superman seems about as exciting as directing a car commercial. oooooh! bright colors! red nickers! Just what is the fetish folks? Where can a story go with a character as dimensional as The Road Runner? Thats all folks BUT SERIOUSLY. please. E x p l a i n. (hands the mic)

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 3:45 a.m. CST

    SANCTUARY!!

    by KillaKane

    Stoked that Singer is a go at long last for Logan. Is Matt Damon still attached to this, hope so, he'd make a great Logan. Just hope Singer has the sense to retain Goldsmith's score (albeit in some form, i.e Superman Returns).

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 3:47 a.m. CST

    Will the Superman say.... "wow"?

    by ricarleite

    And will it have lesbian masturbation as well?

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 4:14 a.m. CST

    Wow. For all the usual idiotic/myopic TBer casting suggestions

    by half vader

    which are always either based entirely on physical looks or the last thing they were in (revealing your average TBer despite supposedly being a film lover doesn't actually know much outside of genre), that Colbert thing was genius! <p> I like Routh too, but for Lois in Returns even Parker Posey from the same flick would have been better. If you wanted to match Kidder the way Routh matched Reeve, then Zooey Dechanel could definitely channel Margot's performance I reckon. She can do the husky voice too. <p> And Harry, tut tut for the Cole thing. And you call yourself a comic geek!

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 4:18 a.m. CST

    Why is Harry and everyone else surprised about Singer on Logan's

    by half vader

    Didn't he talk about it back on Superman? I can't remember now but I though he talked about it in an interview here on AICN. <p> Anyway maybe it's because I was on 'the other side' but yeah Singer had another art dept on Logan's Run when he was filming SR. So no surprises really...

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 4:29 a.m. CST

    maybe banana-nut, I think Superman is a great protagonist...

    by Continentalop

    (Grabbing Mic from maybe banana nut) I have to disagree with my friend here and say that I think Superman is not rung out boring but a very compelling character; however, he has to be presented in the right way. <p> The problem is that people don’t see Superman for what he is – he is metaphor, a character that serves to represent America (just like how Forest Gump represented the Baby Boomers). Superman is an alien from another planet – an immigrant in a country dedicated to giving immigrants a home. He appears as a mild mannered man, just like many people view Americans as weak and mild mannered; However, he can transform into the most powerful force on the planet, just like how the weak man is part of the most powerful country on the planet. And Superman acts like how we wish America would act: as a force of good trying to bring Truth, Justice and the American Way (which is civil rights, liberty, freedom and a lot of good Enlightenment stuff). <p> So usually, like America, Superman does not face any problem that his great might be able to handle. Lets be honest, the majority of the world is not a threat to the US, so Superman should not face to many things that can threaten him as well. But once in a while, just like the US, he faces something that shows him the limits of his abilities and taxes his powers. If you make a Superman movie, have him face dilemmas that act as metaphors for what we are facing today. <p> Example: show Superman as almost omnipotent being, then have something happen that shows him that he can be hurt just like everyone else (kind of like 9-11 for the US - we thought we could never be harmed and then out of nowhere we get hit by a terrorist attack); have him try to find and defeat his enemy but realizes that he attacks from the shadows and hides behind innocent people, and that he doesn’t just go after Superman but also the citizens of Metropolis and Superman’s closest friends (like al-Queeda and other terrorist groups do); have Superman realize that he might have taken on a tasks that even his great powers can’t solve (such as bringing democracy to Iraq) and that he is thinking about going against his own code and is tempted to actually kill and torture (“enhanced interrogations” anyone); especially when he discovers that the enemy might have a special weapon – kryptonite or a super-powered foe (weapons of mass destruction); but Superman resist going against his beliefs and is able to win back the love of the people of Metropolis and the world (Obama winning the Presidency).

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 4:58 a.m. CST

    KEANU IS SUPERMAN YO!!!!!!!

    by alice 13

    kal-elo- you are the one.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 4:58 a.m. CST

    Please no more Lex Luthor

    by hallmitchell

    How about Darkseid? Or invent your own villain and no Bizzaro he would really dumb down the picture.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 4:59 a.m. CST

    How abuot that Moriarty plan?

    by hallmitchell

    Coen brothers directing that Superman novel set in the thirties from memory.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 5:01 a.m. CST

    Jim Carrey would make a great Plastic Man

    by hallmitchell

    Can anyone really see anyone better than Jim?

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 5:03 a.m. CST

    A Wachowski's Superman? Fucking brilliant

    by zapano

    this would be absolutely amazing

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 5:05 a.m. CST

    A Wachowski's Superman? Fucking terrible

    by ironic_name

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 5:15 a.m. CST

    no origin again please, no reboot!

    by muri71

    no reboot, we all know how he freaking came 2 earth, we all know lex, so no more lex please! no more bossworth and spacey...keep routh if not him, go do a lifting on keanu!,) or make an old superman with sylvester stallone! that would rock!:)

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 5:51 a.m. CST

    You know what this means...

    by UltimaRex

    Ninja assassin is going to be great. Or do you think they got handed Superman on the "strength" of Speed Racer?

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 6:47 a.m. CST

    Johnno

    by Dingbatty

    Hear what you are saying, and I enjoyed SR as well, but...Wachowski pervy/fetish-y-ness did indeed creep into that movie. Just look at how the camera ogles Ricci's legs pressing on the pedals in the copter. There's plenty of under the radar stuff like that throughout the movie.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 6:48 a.m. CST

    Not sure if after watching a kid's film

    by Dingbatty

    I should want to go wank.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 7:36 a.m. CST

    The final fight in Matrix 3

    by ominus

    was a ripoff from DBZ fights. <p>anyway,even if the new superman will be better than supes returns,it will fail in boxoffice.the same thing like the Hulk reboot.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 7:42 a.m. CST

    I can't believe I'm the 1st to say this -- YOU WANT AN INTERESTI

    by The Wolf at the Door

    The life and times of Lex Luthor in three parts. Boom. <p> Part One: His rise to industrial power. <p> Part Two: His term as President of the United States <p> Part Three: Dealing with the intergalactic crisis of a full-on war between humanity and Brainiac. <p> You get it?!? MAKE SUPERMAN ESSENTIALLY A BACKGROUND CHARACTER! The guy's just freakin' unknowable anyways and not all that interesting a character when you get down to it. Let Clark be always in the background, like a journalist who just happens to work on a different floor than Lois Lane (who is, in turn, equally obsessed with investing Superman AND allegations of corruption surrounding the super-enigmatic Luthor.) <p> Also?!? LET LOIS FIGURE OUT WHO SUPERMAN IS BY THE END OF THE SECOND FILM. They get married by the third film. Just let it happen for freaks sake, and let Lois, star journalist, be the one to figure out it (but not tell anyone). And what the hell, make her a little ambiguous on whether she's more attracted to Clark's Godly wholesomeness or Luthor's ultimately more "human" dangerousness. <p> Put the focus on Luthor grappling with his human weaknesses, no matter how "poweful" he gets, because suddenly there's an alien (and how about a little freak-out from the general public, Nolan-Dark Knigth style ... THERE ARE ALIENS OUT THERE AND THEY'RE GOD-LIKE!!!! This should freak people out and Luthor as counter-force should be entirely understandable, not cartoonishly "villianous"!) <p> Lastly, yes, the world goes to crap with a Brainian invasion. Use some comic book cannon, introduce Lutherac, make part of the story Luthor's own struggle to retain his humanity given the chance at absolute power. <p> Ugh. <p> It shouldn't be that hard!!! Just take the focus off of Superman!!! Let him be a mysterious force of nature. Make Clark truly "mild-mannered", as in viritually invisible to Lois and the rest of the newspaper crew, and with a touch of hayseed to both Clark and Superman (who inspired both wonder and dread in the human population). <p> Thoughts?

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 7:55 a.m. CST

    Wachowskis Are Probably Right For Supes

    by cowboyone

    Get them a good writer. NO Keanu please.

  • And in the end, the climactic battle between Superman and his arch-nemesis Lex Luthor will end in a draw that leaves things unresolved.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 8:04 a.m. CST

    progressively worse?

    by SpyGuy

    Stupid subject cutoff.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 8:27 a.m. CST

    Speed Racer ruled

    by Animation

    It was my second favorite movie in 2008 (after Let The Right One In). Anyway, I think the Bros COULD make a decent Superman film, but I'd rather them just make one, not three. Also, I'd honestly rather see a Plastic Man movie than a Superman movie.<br /><br /> Actually, what I'd really like to see is a Captain Marvel film done by Pixar.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 8:33 a.m. CST

    Huzzah!

    by Lost Jarv

    Fuck off singer. Result. Superman Returns was shockingly awful. And I hope whoever takes it on kills the sprog.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 8:37 a.m. CST

    Singer, don't let the door hit you on the way out

    by DoctorWho?

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 8:38 a.m. CST

    Plastic Man - Justin Theroux

    by Spartacus Hughs

    .

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 8:38 a.m. CST

    Supeman - Make Grant Morrison's All Star series

    by Spartacus Hughs

    ..

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 8:38 a.m. CST

    Singer, don't let the door hit you on the way out

    by DoctorWho?

    Seriously, you and I are done professionaly!

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 8:42 a.m. CST

    The Wachowskis Would Make a Great Superman I

    by nexxus7

    Stylized, visually amazing, action filled, and cool. But by Superman III it would no doubt be a muddled, expensive, over-the-top mess. That said, I think they are a great choice for the franchise. The one thing that Matrix III had in it was a Superman fight (Neo vs. Smith) that was 1000 times better than the snorefest that was SR. More than anything they will make a comic book movie, not a pretentious droning meditation on the human condition or something like that that is of no interest to the movie going public. If you want to make War and Peace, make friggin' War and Peace. If you want to make Superman, make Superman.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 9:36 a.m. CST

    Sigh

    by Drebin

    Glad to see Hollywood is still so original. My God, stop remaking shit!

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 9:37 a.m. CST

    Wachowskis, talk to Kyle Baker about Plastic Man

    by half vader

    He gets it.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 10:16 a.m. CST

    ***** Wachowskis need to focus on how to cut a movie. *****

    by JDanielP

    I'm convinced that under the hood (so-to-speak), there was a much better SPEED RACER flick. If you look at all the interesting, extra footage that James Cameron had shot for TERMINATOR 2, you STILL understand why it was cut. Don't cut for the sake of cutting or for more screenings in a day, but rather, cut to make a movie more fulfilling. The Wachowskis have good eyes for the camera. The question is, do they have the heart and soul that a richer story demands? --At least, with some consistency?

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 10:17 a.m. CST

    Was Kid Miracleman the one who went crazy...

    by Kid Z

    ...and took everyone in London and smooshed them all together into a miles-long, pulped human body caterpillar sculpture? I read that and thought, "Yeesh... what is wrong with these British comics writers?"

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 10:24 a.m. CST

    They should just end Smallville with a Superman movie Trilogy

    by Xian042

    Im not a fan of the show but I know its big, and lets face it the kid would make a good superman, so why not?

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 10:54 a.m. CST

    I love the idea of a Wachowskis-directed Superman movie.

    by a goonie

    The trilogy idea might have me a little worried, since things got a little out of hand with the Matrix sequels, but I am completely ready to give these guys the benefit of the doubt. I'm not crazy about Reloaded and especially Revolutions, but their work on the first Matrix and then on Speed Racer gives me a lot to love about Andy and Larry. A few months ago, when the dream of a Wachowski Superman movie was floated around in a Superman talkback, I said something along the lines of how that movie could "fuck my brain inside out." And I still feel that way.<br><br>I like Bryan Singer and I was really looking forward to his Superman movie, but he dropped the ball on that one. Big time. It's certainly not a terrible movie on every level, but I did not care for Routh in the tights and the whole obsessive tribute to Donner's original was a very bad idea. I am very ready to see a completely different take on Superman.<br><br>In addition to all of that, I'd love to see their Plastic Man movie, too, and I'm quite intrigued by Singer's long-gestating Logan's Run project.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 11:06 a.m. CST

    I wouldn't mind a "reboot" as long as...

    by PDepew2181

    ...it didn't involve the origin. I think everyone knows Superman's origin, and I don't think rebooting necessitates retelling the origin. I don't see why it just can't have him established already in Metropolis and go from there. To me they can reboot by just ignoring the events of Superman Returns, the fatal flaw of which was trying to emulate Donner's movies too much and having the dopey son plotline. If the Wachowski's are going to do this, fine, but they better not let the concept swallow themselves the way they did with The Matrix sequels. You wanna do a Superman trilogy? You best include both Brainiac and Darkseid in there somewhere. They've never been done on film and really are the other iconic Superman villians not named Lex Luthor. They include those villains, I'll be satisfied. Also, there's no need to do the Death of Superman plotline. It's really unnecessary and there isn't much you can do with Doomsday.

  • This is not LORD OF THE RINGS material here. The makers should concentrate all efforts to making ONE EPIC MOVIE, which is hard enough. Linking the first one with TWO OTHER MOVIES will be difficult fom which THE FIRST WILL SUFFER.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Case in point : Star Wars A New Hope, The Matrix.

    by Se7en

    The above are all Historical Fantastic movies, the firsts of a Trilogy, but which are made without thinking about making a second an third. Thus it can be enjoyed as ONE although EVENTUALLY becoming a part of a trilogy.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 11:26 a.m. CST

    I Like Millar's Idea The Best (Although Johns Would Be Great Too

    by LaserPants

    The one about the Epic Trilogy beginning on Krypton and ending with Superman as the last man on Earth as the sun dies. That would be friggin' AMAZING.<br><br> The Wachowskis wouldn't be my first choice, but I reckon they will do a MUCH better job than Singer, who all but ruined Superman. They'll also do a better job than Donner, because, lets be honest, the Donner movies were fucking terrible.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 11:27 a.m. CST

    And on that note : Cameron.

    by Se7en

    Although I doubt he wants to be attached to a science fiction property bigger than himself.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 11:30 a.m. CST

    Routh was perfect?

    by Darth Macchio

    Ahh..ok...but at least use CGI to turn his eyes blue. Those contacts sucked donkey balls. And yes, NO Kevin Spacey, teeny-bopper Lois Lane, and Clark's new quasi-gay love interest, Jimmy Olsen (altho 'Secret Agent Man James Olson' on Smallville totally blows the ass-o-meter off the scale...what the fuck were those previous writers thinking? oh yeah, my mistake...they weren't).

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 11:46 a.m. CST

    As long as Routh comes back

    by doubledown44

    I will see the flick.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 11:47 a.m. CST

    DWAYNE JOHNSON IS SUPERMAN.

    by Shermdawg

    And because of that, it's reason enough to retell his origin. <br><br> Widower Jonathan Kent finding and raising Kal-El in a slightly racist Smallville. Things escalate during Clark's teenage years and he is tempted in using his powers for revenge, but Jonathan, with much debate, keeps him on the straight and narrow. <br><br> Updating the origin to where it's familiar, while still offering something new, would be the right approach to take.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 11:50 a.m. CST

    DWAYNE JOHNSON IS SUPERMAN.

    by Shermdawg

    AND THE WILLIAMS SCORE MUST REMAIN. <br><br> IT MUST.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 12:02 p.m. CST

    dwayne johnson

    by cloudrider`

    should be hulk. just paint him green. or wait... he should be black canary. go with the wayans bros route in white chicks. he'd be perfect in the role.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 12:04 p.m. CST

    DWAYNE JOHNSON IS SUPERMAN.

    by Shermdawg

    Also, don't have Lex Luthor be the main villian. We are all more than a bit burned out on Luthor right now. <br><br> But that doesn't mean you can't have him in there pulling the strings somehow. And considering Dwayne Johnson would be a fresh take on the character, why not give us a Luthor we aren't used to on the silver screen? Cast Vin Diesel and have keep him in a non action role for a few films before any physical showdown between he and Supes. Just let him develop that character into the scariest coldest version of Luthor we've ever seen without giving us what we'd expect from him right off the bat. <br><br> Admittedly, the Wachowskis' would have to be on his ass to make sure he didn't unintentionally ham it up, but he has enough guidance it would be just as groundbreaking as casting the first man of color as the Man of Steel. And the right step to take to distancing itself from the retro mindset this property has been stuck in forever outside it's television counterparts, as well as making it more appealing to a generation that just doesn't connect with the greatest superhero of alltime.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 12:11 p.m. CST

    DWAYNE JOHNSON IS BLACK ADAM.

    by SpyGuy

    He's not Superman.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 12:15 p.m. CST

    trilogy

    by cloudrider`

    LOTR broke the curse. there's no such thing as third lousy film of a trilogy anymore. the problem with the failure of recent trilogies is the last 2 films were conceived only to capitalize on the success of the first movie. if your main motivation is money, and not story, then it's going to show. come up with a large story from the get go, take the risk and do them back to back. if you're going to pause first and see how the first movie do in the box office before committing to the second and third, chances are those stories are not worth telling to begin with.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 12:19 p.m. CST

    DWAYNE JOHNSON IS SUPERMAN, NOT BLACK ADAM.

    by Shermdawg

    SHAZAM GOT CANNED. AND NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT CAPTAIN MARVEL ANYWAY.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 12:20 p.m. CST

    dawyne johnson is howard the duck

    by cloudrider`

    who's up for the remake?

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST

    Far out theory, but...

    by MR. MURDOCH

    Check this out from EW: http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/02/ask-ausiello--1.html Question: Has Tom Welling signed on for season 9 of Smallville yet? -- Pat Ausiello: No. I'm not sure what's taking so long. Could Welling's agent be trying to position or push him for this project??

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 12:33 p.m. CST

    It's been no secret Welling wants out Murdoch.

    by Shermdawg

    The show's been shit since season five when they killed off Pa Kent. Now without him, Rosenbaum, and Glover, the only consistent bright spots the show had other than Chloe....who just doesn't have that charm anymore, it's just not worth keeping it going. Especially if they are gonna continue to do dumb shit like they've done this season and spend several episodes working towards a Lois and Clark pairing and then have Durance disappear while they bring back and rekindle the Clana romance unnecessarily for like the tenth god damn time.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 12:35 p.m. CST

    POWERS BOOTHE IS BATMAN.

    by Shermdawg

    Give Bats a cameo in the new films. If people dig him, let him and Snyder/Rodriguez do DKR.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 12:38 p.m. CST

    Is that little bit about T4 for real?

    by wraith777

    Maybe I'm outta the loop but thanks for the spoiler...sheesh...

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Bale as Superman

    by mrfan

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 12:45 p.m. CST

    I was late to the party on this...

    by Shermdawg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NIFvrV4VP4 <br><br> Pretty neat.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 12:46 p.m. CST

    Bale as nobody. He's not even a good Batman.

    by Shermdawg

    Unless you like your Batman sounding like he's coughing up a lung.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 1:22 p.m. CST

    Please no Dwayne as Superman.

    by mrfan

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 1:30 p.m. CST

    DWAYNE JOHNSON IS SUPERMAN.

    by Shermdawg

    He'll be cast just to piss off mrfan.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 1:32 p.m. CST

    God damn, I wish I had Cinemax.

    by Shermdawg

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 1:47 p.m. CST

    I wrote a Superman script

    by vadakinX

    Last summer I finished a draft of a sequel to Superman Returns. The thing was an epic failure haha. So I reworked it and in my spare time I'm writing it as a reboot. <p> It's got a ton of action, the origin is dealt with in the opening 5 minutes and a story that I think could be pretty cool involving a Coluan Brainiac. <p> How did I deal with the origin so quickly? Simple, I did a Fleischer style recap. Then it was straight into the first action sequence with a Superman who is already established in Metropolis. <p> I also had Lex Luthor and Metallo in the story and set up Darkseid for a sequel. I even have a way to set up a Justice League film. <p> In terms of the action sequences, there are 2 fights, a hostage crisis, a sinking ship and the climax of the film involved disasters across the entire planet. <p> This came from my SR sequel idea which I still think could work. The only problem with making it a reboot is that I probably need to remove Metallo from the script and alter Brainiac's motive a little. <p> So why am I telling you guys about it and not pitching to Warner Brothers? Because I don't live in the US and therefore can't get to Warners, I've never even tried to sell a script and don't know the right people. <p> I also have ideas for Flash, Green Lantern and Wonder Woman. <p> I even have a few ideas for Booster Gold and Lobo which I think could be pretty cool. <p> But for right now I'm just another nobody with an idea but with nobody except my fellow geeks to share it with.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 1:57 p.m. CST

    Matrix = overrated

    by Wormie1

    The first Matrix was good, but the characterisation was pretty much non-existant. It was all about funky effects (which rapidly became tired pop culture cliches) and a few reheated sci-fi ideas. The sequels were pretentious, badly-plotted and boring. I had no interest in Speed Racer, and since the film was a colossal critical and box office bomb, I wasn't exactly encouraged to see it. Why Warners think the Wacker "brothers" are good choices for Superman is a mystery. Surely the problem for Warners with Superman Returns was the massive budget. It actually grossed more than Batman Begins, but made less profit. Surely, the success of The Dark Knight compared to BB should have been an indication that a sequel to SR is the way to go.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 2:08 p.m. CST

    Best News ALL YEAR!

    by kaos12345

    The Wachowski Brothers were created to make this film. The first Matrix was pure gold, They had me at " I want my Fxxking phone call!" And for Bryan Singer, the Good Riddance SWEETY!!! I told you that movie was an insult to me, the fans, and the history of this character. Superman is not a homo-fied peeping tom who is more interested in finding himself than protecting his adopted world. What a insult! I have been pissed at you ever since you laid that egg! Goodbye.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Fans of Smallville...

    by hank henshaw

    I can't understand how can the fans of that show want a Superman movie to spin-off from the tv series... Clark Kent has pretty much encountered every major civilian, hero and villain of the Superman mythos (except Batman and Darkseid)and he isn't Superman yet! Smallville works, I guess, if you think of it as an alternate take on the character (an Elseworlds if you will)... Smallville's Clark Kent is old enough to be Superman by now.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 3:33 p.m. CST

    We need a NEW SUPERMAN!

    by kaos12345

    What about Brody Jenner, I know he was attached to the JLA movie, I think he could be a THE next Generation of what Superman is. Routh never sealed the deal with me. A tall lanky guy with a boyish face. Who had ABSOLUTELY no interest in Losi Lane.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 3:51 p.m. CST

    vadakinX : Look up the story of Alex Ford

    by hallmitchell

    He wrote a script, he was a fan. He nearly got one up to.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 4:36 p.m. CST

    jesus christ...

    by gavdiggity

    some of you fuckers are delusional. <p> except whomever suggested Colbert as Plastic Man. That's as brilliant as casting Larry David as The Vulture in a Spider-man movie.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Dwayne Johnson as Chuck Clarke

    by geek molester

    Ishtar remake, sign me up.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 5:27 p.m. CST

    smallville movie

    by wixmmm

    a smallville movie will never and should never happen... a made for tv movie that continues the smallville story, and makes welling superman, would be perfect--and the ratings would be so high they would almost be forced to follow the made for tv movie with "Metropolis" with welling as superman the whole time. I'd like to see 'Metropolis' every week if it meant no superman movie for a long time. And don't call welling a kid... the guys like 30 now. And i'll say it again--you 'no orign' fuckers should shut the hell up. I want a self contained superman franshise that tells the WHOLE STORY, which includes the orign. And i'll say it again: DID YOU NO ORIGIN FUCKERS NOT WANT A NEW BATMAN ORIGIN? we all knew the batman story, but BB's take on the origin was so important to the franshise. Who's to say that a new superman origin would suck? Let them do a new one for fucks sake. Donners first superman is terrible today, but superman 2 holds up a little better. I want a TOTAL REBOOT--with an origin. The people who seem to be so insanely against it should go eat a dick. i usually don't resort to trash talk, but people who continue to press the no origin opinion have yet to respond to the fact that the COMICS have told the origin MANY times, and each one was better than the last. There is ONE superman origin take in a superman movie, and its an outdated and lame origin. And what you origin haters need to realize is that i'm not calling for 30 minutes in smallville--maybe 10 minutes in smallville and then the next 20 showing him turn into superman in metropolis... a new franshise needs a complete story, that means it needs an origin. Go fuck yourselves.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 5:29 p.m. CST

    by wixmmm

    *franchise... i type too fast and don't think about correct spelling enough here.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 5:51 p.m. CST

    Reboot AGAIN!!!!!!!!

    by frightnight

    I agree with others, KEEP ROUTH & WILLIAMS' themes, all else redo. Byrnes version, Birthright, there is a vast amount of 'SUPER' villans, characters and material to even attempt to have the movie on par with the comics' version of Supes. As much as I love the first 2 Donner versions ( albeit Lester as well) we need a fresh take on the material and for gods sake keep the Brother & (now sister ) off the project. Treat the character with the respect he deserves and in this day and age make a friggin fanatastic storyline to blow everything else off the screen. Even that Welshman's version of the Dark Knight!! But Keep Routh and get a director who can direct actors and breath life into the project with versimilitude as much as Donner did in his day.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 7:04 p.m. CST

    lets not deny it anymore

    by BendersShinyAss

    Brian Singer fucked up with X2, making a boring BORING superhero film and follwed it with Superman making an even more boring superhero film! <p> whats he made now? Tom Cruise as our hitler killing saviour? gimme a fucking break. <p> look, just give superman back to Ratner and cast jake galagher in the lead! It'll be the best film ever! <p> I'm not fucking joking!!

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 7:34 p.m. CST

    thank you!

    by wixmmm

    amen! the xmen movies suck. they were decent right after seeing them, but are boring as fuck when rewatching them.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 7:36 p.m. CST

    Oh not another reboot!

    by CountdeCeredigion

    I'm not the world's biggest fan of Superman Returns (the last act was very weak) but I hate the idea of rebooting again so soon. Routh was a wonderful lead actor and Spacey had a great balance between the comedic Lex of the Hackman era and a, thankfully, more sinister and evil take on the character. There are plenty of other comic book characters out there - let the Wachowskis mess with another.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 8:07 p.m. CST

    Count

    by wixmmm

    Routh should still be superman, hes bulked up and i feel was rightfully cast, but he didn't have much to work with. I was thrilled when i heard spacey was gonna be lex, however, the take on lex was blatantly a ripoff of hackman--lex was BARELY 'sinister'... yet another poor decision based entirely on the obsession singer had with the donner films. Spacey could have been so good as luthor, if the character was not a charicature. Give the bros superman and they'll deliver--matrix was ripped off and there was a lawsuit with a huge payout. speed racer--some like it, some hate it, it doesn't matter, but from what i've heard, they took a terrible idea and made it decent, but the bottom line is that it wasn't theres. apparently they were involved with V For Vendetta (which i didn't know)--another idea that wasn't theres but was done well by whoever did it. Give these guys who are known comics fans superman and they'll look to the comics for guidance and it will kick ass. I'd pay to see their superman for two w. bros action scenes alone... singer blew it in the action department, and as has been pointed out--he doesn't know how to do action.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 8:13 p.m. CST

    btw

    by wixmmm

    i've noticed for a while how there are sooooo few superman trade paperbacks and an infinite amount of batman trade paperbacks--i've always thought of myself as a superman guy, but now i own an insane amount of batman comics and have realized that batman is simply the more interesting superhero. That's what made All Star Superman so damn good--it was a completely fresh take on superman, and if worse came to worse, you could just rip off every single little detail in All Star Superman (which i just realized is ASS when i tried to abbreviate it) and follow it to a T, the average moviegoer will eat it up... i never would have thought i would come across a incredible, new take on superman that somehow manages to stay true to the character in every possible way. Morrison accomplished something real special with ASS.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 8:35 p.m. CST

    Superman Returns wasn't horrible...

    by thedarklinglord

    It just wasn't the Superman movie it should have been. I think after going so long without a Superman movie, and then having the revival through the animated version and Justice League, etc., a lot of us were expecting something closer to that sort of story, not "Superman the Baby Daddy".

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 8:52 p.m. CST

    Looks like it is based on Crying Freeman.

    by flmguy

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 9:08 p.m. CST

    based on "speed racer", the Wachowskis are perfect

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    ... for a superman movie - one thats lifted from the comics - i liked "superman returns" but it was a love letter to donners superman - not a real superman movie - superman the comic book icon - imagine jim lee's superman on the big screen - or "all star superman" (best superman comic in years) as a movie - if anyone can deliver this its the matrix boys

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 9:10 p.m. CST

    I think Wachowzki Bros. are a good fit for SUperman

    by kirttrik

    That's actually a good idea.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 9:24 p.m. CST

    im glad to see "watchmen" tv spots, and its rated R

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    i guess our worries are over

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 10:14 p.m. CST

    Singer Sux, Logan's = Cameron; Superman = Wachowskis

    by MoOmOo

    Lets face it: James is the only one who can do sci-fi action right. The mans a natural. Speed Racer was in the top 2 movies of last year along with Let the Right One In. They are pure talent when they actually care. (They didn't care about Matrix 2 and 3, CG Neo fail). Singer is a waste, he must have got lucky with Usual Suspects. He has no eye for action period. I never got why people liked Xmen they could be way better. The action was bland. Don't get me started on Superman Returns. The man clearly has no intelligent creativity or vision. He must be corporate friendly like Stephen Sommers. He must charm the executives. Valkyrie was just a boring story to tell but I was hoping he would find his Usual Suspects character drama niche again. KEEP SINGER AWAY FROM SCI-FI ACTION EXECS.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 11:39 p.m. CST

    Superman 3 really wasn't that bad...

    by King Conan

    watched it recently and don't hate it as much as when it first came out. Remove Pryor and it's pretty good, evil Superman doppleganger...evil computer...Lana and Lois love triangle..Supes returns to Smallville for his HS reunion..Supes saving Lana's son from that tractor. It was a decent popcorn flick, way more fun than that sepia washed, depressing and boring Superman Returns.

  • Feb. 13, 2009, midnight CST

    superman 3 is a guilty pleasure of mine

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    and the poster for that movie is superb - seriously

  • Feb. 13, 2009, 12:14 a.m. CST

    I hate the Matrix but SPEED RACER is a masterpiece

    by reflecto

    I'd give it to them over Singer. His films are profoundly overrated, they hit the same notes and tropes over and over, and his Superman and X-Men works were slow, plodding, uncreative, timid, glacial films.

  • Feb. 13, 2009, 12:18 a.m. CST

    BW - make sure the script is Morrison or Millar

    by reflecto

    No one else. Morrison's treatment of Superman in Final Crisis and Superman Beyond is epic.

  • Feb. 13, 2009, 12:18 a.m. CST

    Oh and keep Brandon Routh and no one else

    by reflecto

    That is all.

  • Feb. 13, 2009, 3 a.m. CST

    finally the suits are talking sense

    by TotalFreedom

    The Dark Knight finally got them to wake up and start taking shit seriously. The Wachowskis onboard can make Superman cool and relevent, not Kevin Spacey as a faggot carnival jobber Lex trying to hawk land on a poisonous rock. How the fuck Singer got that ludicrous insulting bullshit to fly with the studio is still mystifying.

  • Feb. 13, 2009, 3:18 a.m. CST

    wixmmm

    by Dingbatty

    Irony would be your "ripping off" All-Star Superman for a Wachowski-helmed Supes movie, as Morrison believes The Matrix rips off his "Invisibles": http://tinyurl.com/cm3owf<p>Though, to be fair, Morrison blatantly nicks from Moorcock, frequently.

  • Feb. 13, 2009, 3:38 a.m. CST

    WHAT???? FUCKTARDS !!!!

    by dude_gimme_tabs

    Anyhoo, SR got $391,081,192 worldwide on a budget of $270million. Didn't that $270million include approximately $75million of cash that had been wasted on every other version they had tried to launch, from the Cage/Tim Burton "Death of...." story all the way up to and including JJ Abrahms complete pile of shite? Slightly unfair of Warner's to say it didn't make enough cash when it was their sheer incompetence that made it cost so much. Also, for God's sake, they have already got a good cast, set and prod design completed, costume designed etc. etc. So here they go again, spunking cash needlessly on this "Re-Boot" or "Re-Imagining" (whatever brain-fart the studios are having this week) to start from scratch. And also, we saw the origin story in SM:TMP, we saw it replayed in the credits of SMII, it was expanded upon in SR and been reworked every which way a hundred times in the comics so why, oh why, oh why do those idiots at Warner's think we need to see it again? Of course, Alan Moore was clearly on to something when he talked about the idiocy of studio execs. You can almost smell the burning rubber that their thought processes generated in this meeting: The Dark Knight was a comic book movie. The Dark Knight was dark and moody. It made us all a fuck load of cash. Therefore..................all future comic book movies must be like The Dark Knight. Congratulations, we rock as studio execs. Cocaine all round and then let's go put our fingers in some interns. Jesus wept! People who hate SR with the passion that many exhibit on here are simply sheep with no imagination or so far back in the closet, they are in fucking Narnia.

  • Feb. 13, 2009, 3:39 a.m. CST

    The correct title of SR is "SUPERMAN LIFTS"

    by reflecto

    All he does is lift heavy shit for what feels like 3 hours while the human cast does the legwork. Meanwhile the movie is left with them expecting us to watch Superman being handled a la Peter Parker, never getting the girl and watching another man raise his son for another four movies. Did they REALLY expect that would work?

  • Feb. 13, 2009, 4:23 a.m. CST

    Sounds Like Bullshit

    by Garzo

    Why would McTeigue go on a major German broadcaster to discuss Ninja Assassin and go into so much detail about Bryan Singer and Warner Bros' negotiations? You don't do that. Or even mention that the Wachowskis are involved even if it were true? People working with WB on such major projects don't go around on German TV spilling the beans like that. McTeigue has already confirmed he's doing the sci-fi pic REVELATION as a follow-up to NINJA -- strange that that was not mentioned. And why would he be up for Second Unit on PLASTIC MAN if he's set to direct a major film for himself? No one in Germany knows Plastic Man so I seriously doubt he would even mention that on an RTL show, especially when it's not his project. This all smells fishy.

  • Feb. 13, 2009, 4:28 a.m. CST

    No Way after Speed Racer

    by Garzo

    After SPEED RACER, there's no way Warner Bros. would offer the Wachowskis one of their biggest franchises. The Wachowskis are not talentless, but they're also not exactly corporate team players. They like doing their own shit, and SUPERMAN is way too political -- they'd have to really work closely with WB and get every little thing pre-approved, etc. It sounds dubious to say the least.

  • Feb. 13, 2009, 4:34 a.m. CST

    lol Speed Racer a masterpiece!

    by geek molester

    woulda been better with 30 minutes of fat trimmed.

  • Feb. 13, 2009, 4:35 a.m. CST

    screw trilogy, do two films, Brainiac, Doomsday and other heroes

    by Smoke Monster Loves Kate

    The Wachowskis can do Superman, it's easy as hell to write a studio-approvable script for this property.<p>I think a trilogy would kill the momentum of a storyline. Make it two films. The first one is all about Brainiac, and he lingers on in the second to give us Doomsday. Pepper many flashbacks to Krypton, but to Brainiac and Doomsday's origins, not Kal El's. After using these flashbacks to set the tone for ancient Krypton... go for the Jor El story and Kal El origin flashback. The flashbacks could be a movie within a movie, a parallel storyline about Krypton, the way TV shows are doing it now. And they'd be very small in terms of overall screen time but would have big impact.<p>We'll need to see other heroes introduced in the first film about Brainiac that later become important in the second movie about Doomsday.<p>A 3rd movie could be spun off with Superman dying at the end of the 2nd film (ESB-esque), but really, where are you going to go with the 3rd movie's plot? Nothing will top the two you've just seen.

  • Feb. 13, 2009, 4:38 a.m. CST

    WB would approve that because

    by Smoke Monster Loves Kate

    Smallville is doing it now (Brainiac and Doomsday).<p>Pretty clever. I know Doomsday was created by a Kryptonian and thus his particular hate for Kal-El but turning him into a Kryptonian weapon that Brainiac knows about and can mess with just makes sense.

  • Feb. 13, 2009, 6:06 a.m. CST

    Wachowsky's needs Millar!

    by chien_sale

    Book it. Three-films Epic.

  • Feb. 13, 2009, 7:13 a.m. CST

    wixmmm

    by CountdeCeredigion

    Actually yeah - I can't really disagree regarding Spacey's Hackman impersonation. However for me SR was a sequel to the Donner movies so it made sense for Lex to be portrayed in the Hackman style.<p> I think my concern with the Wachowskis is that I haven't liked any of their work since the original Matrix. The sequels were terrible, their (admittedly not directed by but still heavily involved with) V for Vendetta utterly dumbed down and missed the point of a great book and Speed Racer... well i haven't seen that yet so don't really have anything to say there.<p> No I take that all back! My problem is I hate the idea of rebooting something because a film wasn't as good as it should have been. Yeah.

  • Feb. 13, 2009, 8:07 a.m. CST

    The Wachowskis? Noooooooooooooooo!

    by rbatty024

    Let me get this straight, Superman Returns, which made a profit, didn't make enough money, so the studios turn to a couple of guys whose last film didn't even come close to making a profit. Whaaaaaaaaa? Besides, The Wachowskis haven't made a truly good film since The Matrix, and even the last third of that film was mediocre. The Wachowskis are kind of like George Lucas. They're idea men, but they can't pull off the execution. Like George, they need to stick to the producing role.

  • Feb. 13, 2009, 8:37 a.m. CST

    Bring back Routh and Singer

    by Barney_Tabasco

    Simple as that. Do it WB!

  • Feb. 13, 2009, 9:09 a.m. CST

    thedarklinglord

    by DoctorWho?

    You're right. I'm guilty of ripping the film as much as anyone but it is a 'well done' movie...but being judged as a Superman vehicle it is just awful. The ill-considered idea of introducing a son, an overly introspective, brooding Supes, oh and NO ACTION! Aside from the great plane scene they had to go back and add that roof top bank heist getaway which was just incidental.<p> Superman is a pretty simple formula. Singer is guilty of overthinking it a bit. I thought I waould at least have revisited it on DVD at this point. Still have no desire.

  • Feb. 13, 2009, 9:17 a.m. CST

    rbatty024

    by DoctorWho?

    It's not that it did or did not make X amount of $$. It's that Singer didn't deliver the goods.<p> When a filmaker does a definitive version of iconic material...TDK, LOTR...there's no need or demand for another. In the case of SR of Hulk...there was an opportunity, dare I say a market for a redux to nail it and 'get it right'. <p> Whether the Wachowski's are the guys, I don't know but I am confident that whoever takes the helm has Singer's version to reference and know what NOT to do.

  • Feb. 13, 2009, 9:22 a.m. CST

    What the execs fail to realize is that the reason...

    by rbatty024

    people dislike the first film is not because it's not dark enough, but because there isn't enough action. Personally, I'm fine with that and I enjoyed Superman Returns, but for the vast majority of the population they could care less whether the film is a reboot, they just want Superman to punch someone. Get Singer back on board and then add a few more action sequences, kind of like what he already accomplished in X2. <p> The studios should have learned from The Hulk/The Incredible Hulk fiasco. They rebooted the franchise and it made almost the exact same amount of money. In other words, the only people who cared about it being a reboot were fans of the first film (like myself) who stayed home. Judging by the jump in profits that most sequels enjoy, The Incredible Hulk should have killed the first one but it didn't. In fact, I still haven't seen The Incredible Hulk and I'm not planning on seeing it any time soon The only thing this decision will do is diminish box office returns.

  • Feb. 13, 2009, 9:55 a.m. CST

    Two Words......

    by Jazner

    ZACK SNYDER........WB already has the right man to re-boot Sups in house.

  • Feb. 13, 2009, 9:55 a.m. CST

    Two Words......

    by Jazner

    ZACK SNYDER........WB already has the right man to re-boot Sups in house.

  • Feb. 13, 2009, 10:09 a.m. CST

    "...just want Superman to punch someone"

    by DoctorWho?

    ...or some-thing! I remember him lifting something heavy, gazing longingly at Lois, getting his ass kicked by Kumar and his buds, lots of flying.<p> Of course I'm just being funny but it was just not satisfying enough for me to revisit on DVD which suprises me because I'm a HUGE Supes guy. I enjoyed it somewhat while I was in the theatre but after leaving felt like I was still craving something. I can still watch Donner's I and II and still feel excited. Nostalgia perhaps.

  • Feb. 13, 2009, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Doctor Who

    by rbatty024

    I think the difference lies with the fact that I liked the film and you didn't, which is all well and good, but I'm talking about this film from the perspective of box office. I can guarantee you the studio execs are not concerned with the merits of the film. They are trying to figure out how to make more money. However, I think the failure of The Incredible Hulk shows that rebooting a franchise alone will not make more box office. The studio might want to add more action, but I think they should also build on the recognition of a film that made almost $400 million worldwide.

  • Feb. 13, 2009, 11:01 a.m. CST

    Hallmitchell, he's already done it.

    by half vader

    It was called The Mask, remember?

  • Feb. 13, 2009, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Saw Valkyrie tonight...

    by half vader

    And it was actually pretty good. Even the accents didn't bother me as much as I thought. Although the choice of WHICH parts had American, English and especially German accents bothered me a LOT. <p> There's a terrible bit with kids though. I think maybe Singer just has no fucking clue what real kids are actually like. His idea of them is treacly acting-kid stuff. Ugh...

  • Feb. 13, 2009, 11:58 a.m. CST

    rbatty024

    by DoctorWho?

    BTW...is your name a BladeRunner reference? Love that film.<p> Yes, I did not care for the film. If I and others had there would have been much more box office. Look at TDK with it's massive repeat viewings and great word of mouth. <p> If this rumor is true and they are planning a trilogy then they obviously see a void to be filled and are swinging for the fences.<p> As far as the Hulk goes it's hard to compare to Supes. I imagine there are vast numbers of people who would buy a Superman ticket (iconic, event picture) but would never go see a Hulk movie (cartoonish, kids stuff. The target audiences are much different and they are attempting something different as well with Avengers etc.<p> I think the powers that be know the public was less than 'wowed' with the tone of SR and to build a sequel on such shakey ground doesn't bode well as say a high powered reboot would. Not saying it's right or wrong, just how the suits may be seeing it.<p> All in all I was entertained for th 90 min I was in the theatre. Did I want to go back, see it again with my friends? No. Do I anxiously await more of the same? No.

  • Feb. 13, 2009, 12:16 p.m. CST

    Routh is the best choice for Superman

    by doubledown44

    Seriously. Just build a better movie around him.

  • Feb. 13, 2009, 11:41 p.m. CST

    Singer Bitch Slapped Superman

    by Akira Cowabunga

    By making his movie look just like Richard Donner. We didn't need a tribute film. And we didn't need another ugly Lois Lane, and we sure as fuck didn't need a fucking baby. Singer's film was a travesty. Anybody could have made a better movie. Hell, even Brett Ratner. I think the Wachowski Brother and Sister team might do a decent job. But please, no Keanu. No Routh, either. We need a new guy who ain't as Pretty.

  • Feb. 14, 2009, 7:24 p.m. CST

    Blow Job Routh sucked his way into the role

    by catlettuce4

    Then sucked during movie and now needs to blow out any future movies.

  • Feb. 16, 2009, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Wachowski brothers aren't doing this movie

    by doubledown44

    From Moriarity: "I think I'm starting to enjoy The Morning Read. Originally, I wasn't sure exactly what I wanted to do with it, but it's a good way of digesting what's going on. Like on Friday, I mentioned the Wachowski Bros./Superman trilogy rumor on Ain't It Cool. And just reading that and making a note of it in the Morning Read prodded me to contact a source that would absolutely be in the loop on making Superman. Verdict? Nope. No Wachowskis. Not at all." http://tinyurl.com/avpgqx

  • Aug. 2, 2009, 1:26 a.m. CST

    Morrison & Wachowski's working together!

    by TheButcher

    Superman is on the fast track: iesb: http://tinyurl.com/ltuzvk, Think McFly Think: http://tinyurl.com/loebc3

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