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Mighty Bay PowerPunch!! It's Devastator From TRANSFORMERS: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN!! With A Much Better Pic Of The Fallen, Too!!

Merrick here...
ACTOYS (website HERE) has posted a rendering of Devastator from TRANSFORMERS: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN. Current indications are that this gigantobot will be formed from seven smaller "Constructicons". Given that the ACTOYS site is entirely in Japanese, I was unable to locate a specific image link on said site - but the Devatsator image appearing below comes to us specifically from ACTOYS, via the folks over that the TFW2005 boards. You can find a larger/embiggenable Devatsator image by clicking the thumb nail below:

He looks kinda like one of those junk planet bosses on STAR WARS: THE FORCE UNLEASHED...a little...kinda? ACTOYS also has a better look at The Fallen referenced in the film's title. We got a glimpse earlier this week via an awkward toy image (HERE), but this new pic offers a far better sense of the character. Click to embiggen.

What I wanna know is: can either of these guys do the Mighty Bay PowerPunch (seen HERE)?

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  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:17 a.m. CST

    He's made of Constructicons.

    by knowthyself

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:17 a.m. CST

    It looks like

    by fofo

    the big daddy from bioshock. weird.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:17 a.m. CST

    I don't know...

    by wampa 1

    ...but it sure smells good!

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:18 a.m. CST

    He's Made of Mass-Market Research!!

    by Crow3711

    Fuck Michael Bay and Fuck Bayformers and Fuck Bayformers 2.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:21 a.m. CST


    by ricarleite

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:23 a.m. CST

    Real Colors=Flames on Optimus

    by Chaosinabox

    Seriously, if he's not bright, neon green like the original Devastator, no point in gong.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:24 a.m. CST


    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Once again, the mighty Bay delivers a Bay PowerPunch to all you hatin' motherscratchers.<P>Let the Talkback Bayhem begin!

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:25 a.m. CST

    That actually looks pretty cool

    by Fico

    I hated the first one but for some reason I have hope for this sequel.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:25 a.m. CST

    I can't wait to see this

    by skiprat1

    Looks like there will be some awesome robotness if nothing else. Can't wait to see how all these assholes actually join up together.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:25 a.m. CST

    Again, looks better than the cartoons and comics...

    by TheLastCleric

    I grew up with the original and the films have better designs, albeit a bit busy-looking.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:42 a.m. CST

    Bay Hate

    by mr_l_74

    IN 5 4 3 2 1

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:43 a.m. CST


    by eric haislar

    Looks pretty bitch.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:45 a.m. CST

    The Fallen got clipped...

    by Shepard Wong

    ouch. That had to hurt.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:45 a.m. CST

    Looks like a toy...

    by BiggusDickus a post about a big toy commercial.<p>Yawn.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:46 a.m. CST

    Yeah, but where are the BRAINS?

    by derousse bag

    Sure, the designs look cool. Whoop-dee-doo. We all know that these cool looking designs will be edited so frantically by Bay that we'll never get a good look at them in motion anyway. </ br> Besides that, shouldn't we be expecting more than just cool designs?? Shouldn't this film have more to bring to the table than great CGI modelling? The first movie was inept and insipid and apparently made for infant children. Do we really want more of the same?? </ br>

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:46 a.m. CST

    There are two kinds of people in this world:

    by OBSD

    Those who hated Bay's Transformers, and retards.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:47 a.m. CST


    by DOGSOUP

    Oh wait, wrong horrible-action-movie-based-on-a-30-minute-toy-commercial-from-the-80s. Hey you guys want to porn out on Robots Smashing Shit, I'll geek out on Sienna Miller totally fuckable. Either way our guilty pleasures are fulfilled. To the haters, good on ya, but what alternatives do we have for Big Dumb Fun? Motoko Kusanagi for Avatar, check, but what else? Watchmen? Wolverine? Terminator? None of those movies are universally looked forward to. Eh fuck it, Imma go read a book...

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:48 a.m. CST

    Does Bob the Builder know his friends are robots in Disguise?

    by Cajunsblues

    I have a 4 year old. you learn these things.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:49 a.m. CST

    so what was the giant unicycle?

    by thinboyslim.

    the robot in the trailer smashing through the bridge *seemed* to have a giant wheel at its base. If it's neither of these 2 what the hell was it?

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:51 a.m. CST

    What the fuck are those things supposed to be?

    by photoboy

    The epic scale of fail on Bay's TINO designs still astounds me.<br /><br /> Someday, someone will make a good Transformers film that uses the original designs and proper backstory. But until then I can continue to laugh at Bay's pathetic attempts to animate piles of scrap metal.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:55 a.m. CST

    I love how The Fallen Has the Decepticon Icon

    by ThePilgrim

    for his face and how he sorta looks like the Alien in ID4. The Dev looks good to me, Face looks like cross between a Shitzu/ Chinese Food Resturant Sitting Dragon/ Samurai Warrior Face Mask. I owned the constructicon set as a kid, and broke it several times, had to superglue fix it every couple of weeks. The toy for that Devastastor looks like it will be insane and carry the same sort of easy to break issues.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:57 a.m. CST

    It wasn't a unicycle it had two fucking wheels

    by ThePilgrim

    We don't know what it is, but it's fucking up the streets of Tokyo!

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:58 a.m. CST


    by FuckMichaelBay


  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:59 a.m. CST


    by FuckMichaelBay


  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:59 a.m. CST


    by FuckMichaelBay

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:01 a.m. CST

    They're making a Neon Genesis movie?

    by OBSD

    Cuz those shits don't look like Transformers to me.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:03 a.m. CST

    looks like a fucking unicycle

    by thinboyslim.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:05 a.m. CST


    by FuckMichaelBay

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:05 a.m. CST

    I think that Unicycle...

    by D.Vader

    Is actually one of the pieces that goes on Devastator, making him even bigger than the bot in the last frame of the teaser...

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:06 a.m. CST


    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    The giant robot from the teaser is just ONE part of Devastator. The guy is going to be HUGE. Huge, I tell you. Just like this movie.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:07 a.m. CST

    I wonder if shia loses his hand

    by ThePilgrim

    We know it gets messed up, to work around the fact that he messed it up. If he lost it, a transformer could replace it by becoming some sorta robotic version of it and living on his arm.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:08 a.m. CST


    by Mr. Nice Gaius rip me off! Heh.<P>Go Bay, go!

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:10 a.m. CST

    I downloaded and watched the scenes with it in it

    by ThePilgrim

    In Kmplayer, and used "F" to frame advance those scenes one frame at a time. Trust me it has two wheels.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:10 a.m. CST

    HOLY SHIT! They made something cool looking for once.

    by HoboCode

    Man I hate the fucking designs of these movies with a passion but even i have to admit Devastator looks FUCKING BADASS.<p> <p> P.S. Where is The Fallen's giant cock?

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:11 a.m. CST


    by thinboyslim.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:11 a.m. CST


    by thinboyslim. looks like a unicycle and not like that picture at all

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:12 a.m. CST

    You have to go to the bridge scene and where it's

    by ThePilgrim

    slamming one of those arms into one of the smoke stack thingies. It has two same sized wheels

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:12 a.m. CST

    hold up let me grab image

    by ThePilgrim

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:14 a.m. CST

    bay zord?

    by livahd

    wheres the better part?

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:17 a.m. CST


    by rogueleader66

    Fuck that fucking movie, go fuck your own eyeballs blind cock sucking fanboys.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:18 a.m. CST

    fallen = stupid

    by Judge Briggs

    i mean, do we really need to introduce some other character to the Transformers universe? the auto-bots and decepticon universe has plenty of plots lines to explore... i hatre you Michael Bay. how many blow jobs have you received from the women in your movies, you hack?

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Can't believe some of you knonheads still want G1 designs

    by bongo123

    I mean holy fuck how big a dick do you have to be to think the originals would look cool up on screen!? And as for the busy designs and quick cuts... What are you? Eighty fucking 2? I could tell what was goin on quite easily and from the looks of that effin brilliant teaser the Bay has kept the formula that made the first one fucking huge, remember your just a bunch of net tossers and he's the fucking man when it comes to robot on robot action... Bring on the bayhem!!!

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:18 a.m. CST

    can't wait to see this

    by Datascream

    when is this coming out now? soon right? like...REALLY soon?

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:19 a.m. CST

    Stop giving Bay a blowjob

    by Faust_8

    now toys are cool news. How about some Star Trek figures, which we know with be coming out. Shamelessly plugging this movie

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:19 a.m. CST

    by ThePilgrim

    2 wheels<P> <P> I can see the other wheel in that joblow image you linked to as well it's towards the top right hand corner of the screen...

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Bitch bitch bitch - par for the course.

    by seagrass

    The original Devastator/Constructicons looked like ass, right down to their hideous green and purple colors. This is an improvement in every way. I dig the glowing face, too...the Big Daddy comparison is apt. The Fallen looks a bit scrawny, but interesting, like a fusion of an Alien and a Terminator. I just want more robot interaction this time out...the less we get of the humans, the better. Be nice to let the voice actors for the 'bots actually get a decent amount of dialogue as well. I also wonder if more Transformers tv show voice actors were involved this time around?

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:21 a.m. CST


    by FuryofthefilmFan

    Why does the design look so Organic?

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Wouldn't mind seeing

    by seagrass

    the robot designs for the individual Constructicons, if they even exist. Still curious if we will get to see them as separate robots with their own personalities, or if Devastator is simply one robot made up of separate parts (like Arcee).

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:28 a.m. CST


    by seagrass

    Are you talking about The Fallen? Devastator looks more mechanical than any of the other robots we've seen (in either film).

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:29 a.m. CST

    LOL Merrick!!!

    by Samus Aran

    ALL of the Bayformers look like junk planet bosses! And that's what they look like they transform into- a hidden pile of garbage. More than meets the eye.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:29 a.m. CST

    so back to the first question

    by thinboyslim.

    that image on ACTOYS looks fuck all like the pictures we're linking too, so is that it unfinished? or is the one in the trailer something totally different? coz i can't see 1 wheel, 2 wheels, any fucking wheels in that ACTOYS pic

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:33 a.m. CST

    We don't know what the wheel transformer is yet

    by ThePilgrim


  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:34 a.m. CST

    All we know is thats it's fucking huge and and it

    by ThePilgrim

    fucks shit up real good.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:34 a.m. CST

    Reminds me of Clovie

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    with flaming nipples painted on

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:37 a.m. CST


    by mr blandings

    The reason why Transformers has ever captured any child's imagination is that they turned into REAL CARS AND TRUCKS AND STUFF. Not into 'alien jets' or anything rubbish like that

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:39 a.m. CST

    Bay says these robots have more character

    by Mr Gorilla

    I love that. As if he really understands or thinks about the concept. Listen, dude: WALL-E was a robot with character. OK? You spent time at the beginning of the film finding out about the character. TIME! A few minutes. Not just a quick cut montage that's over in 20 seconds. Oh, forget it...

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:40 a.m. CST

    I like the new Fallen colours....

    by Unknown Canadian

    ...looks more like the 'Satan of Transformers', as I've heard it described. Good move on removing the schlong, too!

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:42 a.m. CST

    Ohh Bay, what have ye done

    by most excellent ninja

    Devastator was the most awesome looking Transformer in the cartoons. Now he looks more like a monster.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:42 a.m. CST


    by thinboyslim.

    Shame Devastator looks like the Balrog after falling into the supercomputer from SupermanIII. But I'd still pay to watch it tear shit up!

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:43 a.m. CST

    The wheel transformer is a Terex O&K RH 400 Hydraulic Mining Exc

    by El Mamerro

    And it's fucking enormous on its own as seen in the trailer, which means Devastator is out of control large, Godzilla-scale. Pic of the excavator:

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:44 a.m. CST

    mr blandings

    by seagrass

    WTF are you talking about? In the first film, there was only one robot who even turned into something that wasn't from Earth. All kids cared about was that they were cool robots that turned into something didn't really matter what that something else was, either - except for Skids, the worst Transformer ever. He was a freakin' Le Car! Hope they make him something better in the sequel.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:45 a.m. CST

    That first pic of The Fallen toy

    by seagrass

    looks awful compared to the real thing. The colors aren't even right! Hope that earlier pic was just an early design that was rejected.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:52 a.m. CST

    I now know the truth....

    by Grrrr....

    ....about all the Bay hatred from all of you. In the bonus features on the DVD in TF1 he spoke about the fans hating on him and saying stuff like "Damn you Michael Bay" and "You raped my childhood Michael Bay". You bunch of retards are just trying to 'out hate' each other to get your little piece on the bonus features of the new movie when it is released on DVD... Sad really...

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Bay Bwns You All!

    by ThePilgrim

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:57 a.m. CST

    The Fallen

    by jsm1978

    Is a character from the comics, they didn't make him up for just this movie. I think he may have gotten a toy too in one of the lines. As for that image... that looks nothing like the toy they showed the other day. Though that toy did look like a toy I saw labled as Soundwave either here or somewhere else.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:58 a.m. CST

    El Mamerro

    by thinboyslim.

    that vehicle in that picture doesn't even have wheels its tracked! i can spot one wheel on the devastator actoys image on his right wrist but unless the screen grabs me and pilgrim linked to are just his hand (?!) then the wheeled TF ain't devastator.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:58 a.m. CST

    Pwn= Own

    by ThePilgrim

    Bwn=Boned! <P> Yeah I just coined a new Internet Catchphrase! <P> Bwned!!!!!!

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Did they neuter the Fallen?

    by Slippy

    It looks like it has a vagina in this picture compared to the giant cock it was sporting in its toy form. Also, Devastator looks like complete shit. I have faith that the characters in the movie will look better, but the toy Devastator just looks God awful. What the fuck is going on with its head?

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11 a.m. CST

    TINO*Bitches Got Bwn'D!!!!

    by ThePilgrim

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:06 a.m. CST

    his face is made of fail

    by vaudeville villain

    seriously. what the hell is that?

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:17 a.m. CST

    The first film lost me...

    by Mr Gorilla

    ...when it started talking about some sort of holy cube or something? Possibly the most shit McGuffin in recent years?

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:17 a.m. CST

    Bay Bwn3D Your Childhood

    by ThePilgrim

    Bay Will Lick Your Tears. While he Bwn's you!

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:21 a.m. CST

    RE: "...the most shit McGuffin in recent years?"

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    No, that distinction would have to go to the Crystal Skull.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:23 a.m. CST

    I've said it before and I'll say it again...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    ...Bay's TRANSFORMERS was more entertaining than Spielberg & Lucas's INDY 4.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Why do all these things look like fucking gillette razors

    by SomaShine

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:23 a.m. CST

    not bad..

    by Nasty_Nick

    But it's a bit of a cliché making the fallen part of egyptian culture. Too many aliens come from ancient Earth cultures already.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:26 a.m. CST

    i second the energon cube thing as worst mcGuffin

    by BMacSmith

    narrowly defeating the crystal skull. the cube thing was literally anything the script needed it to be. it was at different times powerful, useless, gigantic, easily portable, and could be used to kill the bad guy. <p> and none of it made any fucking sense.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:27 a.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius

    by Grrrr....

    Please, for all that is good an holy don't mention the train wreck that was Indy4.... I didn't want to believe you guys and during the movie I kept thinking it's not SO bad. Then the ending.... The more I think about it the more pissed off I get. Transformers will be awesome. I think I will pop in my DVD tonight and enjoy it again.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:27 a.m. CST


    by HorrorFan81

    This film will suck worse than a buck-toothed whore with 2 fingers.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:32 a.m. CST

    I heard him say, "It's a lion! It's huge!"

    by Iron-kong

    Ah! Remember that fun little debate? Good times, good times.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Watch Indy 4 again.

    by HoboCode

    It's great.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:34 a.m. CST

    MNG: I am NOT ripping you off...

    by FuckMichaelBay

    ...I just think it's an unfinished statement.<br><br>THE POWER OF BAY COMPELS YOU! do what, I ask? <br><br> do your homework?<br><br> say "Hi" to your crush?<br><br> become a transsexual?<br><br>I JUST WANT AN ANSWER DAMNIT! :)

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:36 a.m. CST

    It's interesting...

    by 420 Boylston St

    I wish the monster robots look... green, but hey I like the first movie and I can tolerate a less looking functionality for actual vehicles from the cartoons. Devestator looks more like a demonized mecha dragon than an actual mechanized functioning robot.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:36 a.m. CST

    devastator meets lord of the rings

    by rsdigi

    You shall not pass, Shall not pass. Shall not pass. Balrog

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:37 a.m. CST


    by 420 Boylston St

    I agree with you on Indy 4, it was a good picture and I hope there will be another film coming pretty soon.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:38 a.m. CST

    BTW that damn toy is going to require an engineering degree to t

    by Iron-kong

    I'm looking at it, and I can't figure out where the head pops out. <That sentence can SO be twisted. On the original Devastator the head was a separate piece from the individual Constructicons that you only used when you put them all together, which I always thought was cheating. Though you could snap it on one of them in truck mode and it became a BFG or something.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:39 a.m. CST

    ... engineering degree to transform.

    by Iron-kong

    stupid short subject lines.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:41 a.m. CST

    swear to god i had a dream about Michael Bay last night

    by BMacSmith

    it involved alien invasion and for some reason i had to choose between saving my friend or MICHAEL FUCKING BAY. Obviously, i let him die and took my friend. <p> i think watching that vid of him yesterday acting like a coke fiend is what etched him into my mind.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:42 a.m. CST

    Hey! That's wierd

    by Iron-kong

    I was trying to point to that sentence of mine that says "... where the head pops out." to say "That sentence can be twisted something awful", and it didn't post. I used the "<" key. Odd.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:44 a.m. CST

    I don't even have to bother...

    by TheJake

    ...tearing this bullshit apart. Bay has consistently proven he's a 'tard. I love Transformers... but face it guys, this ain't Transformers. Just cause you pour syrup on shit don't make it panckaes, know what I'm sayin? You die hard TransFans need to stop bending over and taking it up the ass from Bay and his shitty design team. Grow a pair of nuts.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:47 a.m. CST

    looks like they got rid of the giant penis

    by Turd Furgeson

    no giant penis on the fallen equals flames on optimus!!!!!!

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:51 a.m. CST

    Too complex

    by Spikey

    Anyone else think that the bots would look better and have the possibility of being iconic if they were just much simpler and clearer looking? As it is theres so many parts to them that they might as well be organic creatures.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:51 a.m. CST

    Where are the early reviews for Watchmen?

    by knowthyself

    Who gives a frack about transformers 2 right now. Bring on the watchmen reviews!!

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:53 a.m. CST

    is aicn the only site some of you visit?

    by Bouncy X

    i see that ongoing "1 wheel/ 2 wheel" debate is raging on in this thread. pictures were already posted on other sites of the toy for that transformer and it showed that while its alt form has tracks, in other photos those tracks can connect and form.....2 wheels!!! seriously, look around the net people.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 12:01 p.m. CST

    I bet that

    by seagrass

    if one were able to take all of the Michael Bay hate that is posted on AICN and turn it into electricity, you would be able to meet the world's power needs for the next century.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 12:02 p.m. CST

    Seriously though, what the fuck is this?

    by Muki

    The first Transformers was a massive steaming pile of shit. This looks like more of the same. Hollywood has always made summer blockbusters for 12 year old boys and that's fine because I used to be a 12 year old boy. But now they're not even making them for intelligent 12 year old boys. They're making them for the dumb as shit, no friends fuckwit 12 year old boys.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 12:03 p.m. CST


    by Slippy

    All you need to know no squid=flames on Optimus Prime=nipples on the batsuit=end of civilization as we know it!

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 12:03 p.m. CST

    I came

    by Mr. Lahey

    Devastator looks incredible. My dad used to operate his right arm and right leg. I love how they retained the vehicles look for each part. The Fallen is pretty bad-ass as well. Why does that guy keep posting that he wants to fuck Michael Bay?

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Michael eBay?

    by JackPumpkinhead

    Will there be more of whatever-the-hell-it-was kind of Bay/eBay promo "plot point", a la the first movie?

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 12:21 p.m. CST


    by turketron


  • Feb. 11, 2009, 12:23 p.m. CST


    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    You're not alone, man. INDY 4 was easily the greatest cinematic disappointment of the last 10 years. Shameful.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST

    devestator's lines:

    by ironic_name

    ...kick your fucking ass! I want you off the fucking set you prick! No, don't just be sorry, think for one fucking second. What the fuck are you doing? Are you professional or not? Do I fucking walk around and rip- no, shut the fuck up Bruce, do I-no! No! Don't shut me up. Am I going to walk around and rip your fucking lighs down? In the middle of a scene? Then why the fuck are you walking right through? a-tada-tada like this in the background, what the fuck is it with you? What don't you fucking understand? You got any fucking idea about- Hey! It's fucking distracting having somebody walking up behind bryce in the middle of the fucking scene. Gimme a fucking answer. What don't you get about it? ... fuck sake man you're amateur... you've got something to say to this prick? Well somebody's should be watching him and keeping an eye on him. It's the second time that he doesn't give a fuck about what is going on in front of the camera. Alright? I'm trying to fucking do a scene here and I'm going why the fuck is Shane walking in there? What is he doing there? Do you understand? My mind is not in the scene if you're doing that. Stay off the fucking set man, for fuck's set. Right let's go again. Let's not take a fucking minute, let's go again. And let's not have you fucking walking in... You're unbelievable man, you're un-fucking-believable. The number of times you stroll in the fucking background. I've never had a DP behave like this. You don't fucking understand what its like working with actors. That's what that is. I'm not asking you, I'm telling you. You wouldn't have done that otherwise. I'm gonna fucking kick your fucking ass if you don't shut up for a second, alright? I'm gonna go, do you want me to go and trash your lights? Do you want me to fucking trash them? Then why are you trashing my scene? You do it one more time, and I ain't walking back to set if you're still hired... seriously man - you and me, we're fucking done professionally.... fucking ass."

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST

    AVATAR - FUCKING YOUR EYEB...oops, sorry!

    by BiggusDickus

    Thought I was that Motoko chap for a minute there...

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST

    RE: Watch Indy 4 again.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    No. Never again.<P>Quote: "It's great."<P>No, it's not.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 12:28 p.m. CST


    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    THE POWER OF BAY COMPELS YOU:<P>A) To post on AICN TFer Talkbacks - whether you liked the movie or not.<br>B) To see the new movie whether you liked the first one or not.<P>There is no stopping what can't be stopped. No killing what can't be killed. Bay & Bots are here to stay. Truth! :)

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 12:28 p.m. CST


    by Mr. Nice Gaius


  • Feb. 11, 2009, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Am I

    by GreenGeezer

    trying to turn a sows ear into a silk purse, or does Fallen look vaguely Quinteson like? Not the round faced judge unit, but the Prosecutor unit??

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 12:35 p.m. CST

    I think

    by GreenGeezer

    its the head thats making me think of this one, the long skull, the scallops.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 12:35 p.m. CST

    Merrick called it a Unicycle

    by ThePilgrim

    He started this shit.... Other Tb'ers took him for his word. He must be Bwn3'd!!!!!!

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 12:36 p.m. CST

    The Fallen look terrible

    by Rickey Henderson

    You can totally tell they're going for the Egyptian look here. Rickey does not approve of Bay going for the "slumbering alien robot in Egypt" angle. It's moronic. Does every freaking movie have to rip off Stargate? First Avatar, now this? The only way this movie will be watchable is if all the robots break dance to "Walk Like an Egyptian" by the Bangles.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 12:36 p.m. CST

    So can the Fallen, like, hit harder or something?

    by drewlicious

    I'm assuming he's got some monstrous power to earn his status. From what I can tell from the last movie Megatron was only where he was because he was physically dominant. He whipped Optimus Prime like a bitch until the military interfered.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 12:37 p.m. CST

    What an idiot.

    by chrismata

    Why did he name a tank "Devastator" in the first movie? When he could have named it something else so that the Constructicons could form Devastator in the second movie. It makes no sense and all it does is make people angry and give people one more reason to hate Michael Bay.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 12:38 p.m. CST


    by HoboCode

    What's your problem man? Been listening to DG_DB's conceited and fustian rants too much perhaps? Why does anyone's positive response to Indy 4 have to be met with snide consternation?

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 12:38 p.m. CST

    Bay Da Bayham Ala Bwn'age!!!

    by ThePilgrim

    Splosions A Bwn, Bwn...

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 12:39 p.m. CST

    re: Indy 4....

    by Rickey Henderson

    Sorry, but the only way that movie is remotely watchable is with the sound muted and the RiffTrax crew doing play by play.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 12:46 p.m. CST


    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    My problem? My problem is that INDY 4 sucked. And believe me, that's not an easy thing to fess up to because I was REALLY looking forward to it when it came out. Unfortunately, what hit the screen was a half-cocked and lazy film that speaks nothing to the impressive talent that was supposed to be involved.<P>As for DGDB, what exactly are you trying to imply? Have have you seen the two of us conversing lately? I think not.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 12:51 p.m. CST

    by ThePilgrim

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 12:51 p.m. CST

    by ThePilgrim

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 12:54 p.m. CST


    by ThePilgrim

    Bwnd is Pwnd with Tits, Bwnd is Pwnd with an asscrack..

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 12:59 p.m. CST


    by HoboCode

    No. Your problem is NOT that Indy 4 sucked becasue it did not "suck" in the slightest. It was rather fun and entertaining. Your problem is that your overinflated expectations were not met, most likely because you have either forgotten through time what made the original films great (traits which are also found in Indy 4), or due to a hysterical, rabid, and misplaced hatred of Shia LaBeouf.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Designs inspired by Pick-A-Part & Sanford & Son.

    by conspiracy

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 1:04 p.m. CST

    That looks badass.

    by Evangelion217

    He looks like a demonic villain out of a "Power Rangers" episode.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 1:05 p.m. CST

    No Hobocode.

    by Evangelion217

    "Indy 4" did suck. You just haven't realized it yet. ;)

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 1:21 p.m. CST

    Devastator looks like a Junkion...

    by Han Cholo

    and that's not a good thing.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 1:24 p.m. CST


    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Well, for starters, I don't hate Shia LaBeouf. I've actually gone to bat for him on a number of occassions as I don't understand the ritualistic hate cast upon him by the AICN community. In fact, Shia was the least of INDY 4's problems and one of the few bright spots in terms of his performance.<P>If you found INDY 4 to be "rather fun and entertaining", then more power to you. I found it to be rather dull and embarrassing.<P>Quote: "... you have either forgotten through time what made the original films great..."<P>You couldn't be more wrong here, man. It's because I remember what made the original films great that I'm able to sit back and say...with sadness...that INDY 4 sucked.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Confirmation that Megatron is in the movie?

    by andrew1911uk

    Looking at the msg board link, I saw this -<br /> Am i right in thinking that Megatron's presence in the film was still in doubt? This seems to confirm it...unless it's just a nice picture.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 1:45 p.m. CST

    The Wheeled Trailer Bot

    by Talkback1138

    Is shown on the same site as where this Devastator pic originates. It is a steam shovel that is PART of Devastator. The wheels aren't actually wheels but rather the steam shovel's tracks that become a different form of locomotion. Can't say I like that bot, and Devastator eh... He's OK. Still hate Michael Bay. Douche.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 1:49 p.m. CST

    they look really cool.

    by FleshMachine

    they do

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Indy 4 did not suck...

    by UltimaRex

    ...but it did not rock either. In fact it kinda just sat there, gave the world a new catchphrase and then just faded away...

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 1:53 p.m. CST

    What will happen

    by Geekhaterssuck

    1. The movie will make another two hundered million. 2. You haters will continue to spew crap, and whine incessantly about "Michael Bay raped your childhood. I mean it's ok to hate the movie we all have our opinions personally I loved it, was it perfect or a great piece of cinema? Hell no, but it was fun popcorn flick about giant robots. What were you expecting Citizen Kane? You act like the movie personally insulted you somehow. Geez get a freaking life. Anyway I digress. 3. Three months later the announcement for Transformers 3 will happen and the cycle will start all over again.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 1:55 p.m. CST

    What was in the originals that Indy 4 lacked?

    by HoboCode

    Sci-fi story? Check. <br> Harrison Ford? Check. <br> Cartoonishly fascist villains? Check.<br> Spunky sidekick? Check?<br> Sassy heroin? Check?<br> Incredible action? Check?<br> Slapstick humor? Check.<br> Creepy Crawly scene? Check.<br> Indy never losing his hat? Check.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 2:04 p.m. CST

    looks cool and all but

    by disfigurehead

    the film is still going to suck ass.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Sad... The Fallen Lost his Horsecock...

    by AdrianVeidt

    I heard Megan Fox was utterly disappointed.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 2:12 p.m. CST

    Indy 4 hate is over reaction at its worst.

    by knowthyself

    People just don't WANT to like anything anymore. How could you not see Ford as Indy and not just enjoy it for what it is?

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Fuck AVATAR

    by rogueleader66

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 2:18 p.m. CST

    Bright Green

    by DanboJohnJ

    All the boy's are bright green BAY YOU BUGGER.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 2:23 p.m. CST

    Once again, for the slow people in the room

    by seagrass

    The original day-glo green and purple Constructicons looked like ass.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 2:25 p.m. CST

    Fallen reminds me of the Quintisons...

    by AnarchyWorldsEnd

    From the 86 movie. For all the Purists out there these designs do reflect the more "alien" nature that some of the bots had from the movie/season 3 onward.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 2:25 p.m. CST


    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    So, you've reduced the Indiana Jones franchise to a checklist?! What's wrong with you, man?! Are you currently drinking Creme de Menthe from the office watercooler again?

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 2:26 p.m. CST

    nope, sorry. Indy 4 just fucking sucked.

    by BMacSmith

    call me a hater if it makes you feel better, but it wasn't very good. mainly the suspension of disbelief required for the monkey scene, the three waterfalls, and of course the nuked fridge, was just too much. <p> the originals weren't that realistic, the action scenes weren't that hard to believe. the great thing about the originals is that Indy always seemed like he was just barely surviving. He was a badass, but he knew he was a lucky muthafucka too.<p> in 4, Indy is basically Superman. he is invincible. going over three giant waterfalls? no problem. where is the tension? why am i supposed to give a shit?<p> beyond that, the writing was just lazy. why were natives just siting in the walls just waiting for someone to come by? <p> and now for HOBOCODE! your last post was exactly what i didnt like about this movie. It felt like a checklist of shit put in to rehash the other movies. you sound like many a movie director or producer who thinks a fucking checklist of shit that worked before is all you need.<p> and on a final note. THE FUCKING SHIA SWINGING WITH THE MONKEY SCENE?!?! WHY WOULD ANYONE TRY TO DEFEND A MOVIE WITH A SHIA MONKEY SWINGING SCENE? for christ sake.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 2:31 p.m. CST

    the reason....

    by Samplelord

    The reasons Indy 4 sucked... 1-the og's are NOT sf flicks, they are about the hunt for holy/supernatural relics of power. 2-Indy flick where never slick, watch the making of the og 3 on the dvd box to hear the Indy style of movieschool theory. 3-Harrison Ford has become a grumpy old fuck. 4-Russian angle is weak, the Nazi angle will always be more threatening.Look and read Hellboy how it's done.... 5-Steven Spielberg and George Lucas can't direct anything fantastic/sf/adventure like without cliched ridden, wooden acting, plothole riddled scripts. thank you for your time....

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 2:31 p.m. CST

    Whats wron gwith shia swinging with the monkey?

    by knowthyself

    Its just like the old school serials that Spielberg and Lucas loved so much back in the day. You people are just joyless. I thought it was fun. I really don't know what you want out of your movies these days. Go jerk off to dark knight a few more times. Some of us remember that its okay for a movie just to be fun.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 2:33 p.m. CST


    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Quote: "Some of us remember that its okay for a movie just to be fun."<P>Funny that you should say that in a TRANSFORMERS Talkback...

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 2:34 p.m. CST

    Indy 4=FAIL

    by seagrass

    Sorry, kids. It had a few good moments, but for the most part was shit. Tried re-watching it again, and just couldn't get past the sloppy acting and writing. The SFX were ok.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 2:38 p.m. CST

    The main problem with Indy 4

    by seagrass

    was Indy himself.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 2:38 p.m. CST


    by HoboCode

    "the og's are NOT sf flicks, they are about the hunt for holy/supernatural relics of power"<p> Listen to yourself for god's sake.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 2:42 p.m. CST

    The Fallen is 2 feet tall

    by drewlicious

    Now that would be an unexpected reveal. Have someone lean over, "He was a world class badass for his time I guess."

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 2:43 p.m. CST


    by drewlicious

    I wonder if Devastator will sound retarded like he did the cartoon. He was just this big lumbering mongloid if memory serves me correctly.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 2:46 p.m. CST


    by BiggusDickus

    Come on, stop fucking about. If you're going to make a robot movie, at least source it from a decent story and not from a range of fucking toys.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 2:51 p.m. CST


    by seagrass

    I think he was in the original cartoon series (very similar to The Hulk, actually), but in the animated movie he sounds pretty coherent.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Some of the anti-Indy 4 arguments are pretty weak.

    by TheLastCleric

    That fact is obvious when you consider the reaction to the fridge scene, which is no more outlandish than Indy fighting Nazis on horseback, leaping out of a plane using an inflatable raft, or finding a 500-year-old Templar knight guarding the Holy Grail. I do agree the vine swinging was a bit much but overall I really enjoyed the film, especially the incredibly cool opening warehouse scene, which shows us that an older Indy still kicks ass. I agree that the Nazis are better villains but given Ford’s age they used what was historically the next best thing and Kate Blanchet’s villainess was one of my favorites in the series. I do agree it’s the least of the four films but it was still an Indy movie and some of those action scenes were very well done.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 2:58 p.m. CST

    I still think

    by seagrass

    The Fate of Atlantis would have made for a better film. Also, we have completely derailed the Transformers/Bayhate talkback, which is probably a good thing.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Atlantis would be a cool concept

    by TheLastCleric

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 3:16 p.m. CST

    General Crom

    by seagrass

    That statement is dead on. Fallout 3 was the most immersive experience I've ever had playing a game, and much more satisfying than any movie I've seen in a while.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 3:18 p.m. CST

    On my second playthrough

    by seagrass

    as an evil S.O.B. this time around...although I liked being a good guy more. I hope the same dev team sticks around for Fallout 4 (if and when we get it!) If they could add in some aerial or vehicular segments (like Mass Effect), you'd have a near-perfect game.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 3:28 p.m. CST

    right, i'm so utterly joyless because Indy 4 sucked

    by BMacSmith

    i love good, stupid adventure flicks, but it doesnt change the fact that Indy 4 sucked. its not my fault it wasn't a good movie. maybe you can make excuses and convince yourself you liked it, but i have standards. <p>now if you'll excuse me, i have to go listen to the Smiths and cut myself.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 3:34 p.m. CST

    knowthyself Whats wron g with that scene?

    by BMacSmith

    the problem is it was fucking stupid. It was slapstick silly shit that completely took everyone in the theatre out of the movie. I don' care if it was based on some old serial Speilberg watched once. Just because Indy was based on those doesn't make it ok suspend the rules of good storytelling. If the old Indiana Jones movies were just like those old serials, they would have been laughed out of theatres, but (once upon a time) they had the good sense not to go so over the top stupid, and it worked.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 3:34 p.m. CST

    The "UNICYCLE" actually had TWO WHEELS

    by BlackNacht

    If you stop the frame right before it smashes through the bridge you can see it's actually on a back wheel. The front wheel is what busts the overpass. When it gets closer to the screen you can see the back wheel come up behind it's head while it rolls on the front. This Fallen also looks way more badass than the shitty toy we saw a couple days ago.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 3:52 p.m. CST

    Transformers: ROTFL

    by Flim Springfield

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 3:54 p.m. CST

    ...oh man

    by smatt584

    It's bad enough this is a post about a new TF movie, we have to bring up IJ4? I had my girlfriend watch the first three before it came out because she hadnt seen them before and I wanted her to know why I was excited. After the movie I ended up apologizing to her for getting her hopes up just to expose her to the shit that was the crystal skull. I blame Lucas. Back to TF talk, although I haven't seen either character before, the fallen doesn't look too bad, devastator looks too much like one of those Lego bionicals though. I kind of like the egyption angle; I just hope they give it more thought than they did the Hoover dam in TF1. Seriously, if they built the dam around it to cover up where it landed, wouldn't that mean it was at the bottom of a river? And why the fuck would a state-of-the-art facility of such importance have a ancient room full of old shitty equipement and real guns in display cases, with ammo? When is the last time you saw ammo in a historical display? And was the cleaning lady let go? Just one of a thousand instances of idiotic plot devices used in the first movie. Ok, I've got to stop before I go blind. Trying to apply logic to Michael Bay movie, what was I thinking? That shit can get a man hurt, I'm lucky I didn't have an embolism.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 3:56 p.m. CST

    With that giant horsecock, I thought the Fallen

    by Slippy

    would be fucking our eyeballs out in 2009.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 3:59 p.m. CST

    Cocks don't exist in this dojo.

    by drompter

    I see they dropped the cock. They are obviously aiming for a PG-13. Perhaps Spielberg will suggest that it will be replaced with a walkie-talkie?

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Wasn't Excalibur in one of the Indy drafts?

    by drewlicious

    Now that would have made for a much more interesting movie. Even though I've defended the idea of putting aliens of this franchise a while ago, the movies pay homage to the genres of the decade they're placed in, Excalibur requires so much less explanation.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 4:17 p.m. CST

    Transformers & Indy 4 have something in common...

    by DarthCorleone

    They are both dung.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 4:39 p.m. CST


    by Charger26

    So fuck you. This movie will crushing Box office records (FACT:like the first one did)while you're at home crushing your little brothers brown walnut hole. Fuck fuck fuckity fuck you! The power of Bay compells you to a dick..and balls

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 4:56 p.m. CST

    BiggusDickus - I agree, ABC Warriors please...

    by CloneRangerUK

    ....if done right (i.e faithfully), that would kick major a$$!

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:03 p.m. CST


    by smatt584

    High School Musical crushed box office records too, why don't you go suck off Zach Efron?

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:09 p.m. CST


    by Charger26

    Maybe I will. Look get over it dude. All you fags need to get over it. You will never see your shitty vision of Power Rangers style Transformers make it to the big screen. Tuff fuckin shit lol. Seeing Transformers was like seeing Jurassic Park for the first time. And all of you so called "geeks" complain about lame shit like Flames on Prime and that a 40 foot Megatron didn't turn into a small pistol. Queers!

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:11 p.m. CST

    You need a tetanus shot to look at those things,

    by Dingbatty

    and, Sienna Miller is a Jude Law cum sponge. No telling what she absorbed, considering how much he gets around.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:12 p.m. CST

    smatt584-one more thing...

    by Charger26

    Maybe you can get Zach Efron to bust your Box office open with some Teenage penis. How do you even know this kids name? Your blowing your cover ya Pedophile!

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:16 p.m. CST

    I don't give a shit about...

    by smatt584

    Comic/cartoon continuity, the movie was retarded, as are most Michael Bay movies. Your argument is shit, Michael Bay moviea are shit, get over it. (at least you admit wanting to see High School Musical, that was brave tjing to do, maybe now you can take the next step and come out of the closet)

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Well smatt584...

    by Charger26

    I'll come out of the closet when you come out of your brother.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:21 p.m. CST

    And it's funny...

    by smatt584 should call us geeks in defense of a transformers movie. You're in gay-nerd denial.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:26 p.m. CST

    Yeah, youve definitely got repressed...

    by smatt584

    ...homoerotic tendencies, and your fixation with gay-incest probably isn't too healthy either. I guess your fixation with Michael Bay isn't so bad in comparison, so you just stick to watching big shiny robots and stay away from family reunions ok? Best to avoid those felonies, eh?

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:30 p.m. CST

    Geez smatt584

    by Charger26

    Man you're getting all emotional about this...your probably taking your clothes off and putting your fingers insid yourself. Maybe your mom will come over and spit in your mouth too!. You can only hope huh. Anyways fag, I gotta go-but I hope all is well with you. I'll pray for you, but God hates it my not help you...cause you're a faggot.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:31 p.m. CST


    by Charger26

    Your dad was a faggot...

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:32 p.m. CST


    by Charger26

    his father was a faggot...

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:32 p.m. CST


    by Charger26

    I don't know how all that works...but it does..faggot

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:37 p.m. CST

    So The Fallen is basically Lucifer

    by jarjarmessiah

    The "Fallen" Angel

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:37 p.m. CST

    Your posts betray you once again

    by smatt584

    There are those incest/gay references again, man, Freud would have a field day with you. Tell me, did you get off when you had to show on the doll where daddy touched you? (rhetorical question, I think we all know your answer by now, perv-boy)

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:42 p.m. CST


    by Charger26

    I'll see ya at the TF-ROTF premier! Buy me some popcorn so I can fist it into your mother for some tuna butter.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:43 p.m. CST

    I'm guessing here, but

    by smatt584

    imagine your daily routine goes something like the scene in the silence of the lambs with the lipstick and the scalps... too modest? And still you seem to think there's nothing sad or pathetic about calling someone a fag to defend a transformers movie on the Internet. Hmm, I'm guessing lithium?

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:45 p.m. CST

    Who cares?

    by alienindisguise

    It's a movie based on toys so of course it's gonna suck.Get off of Bays nuts and realize the truth!

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:46 p.m. CST

    It puts the lotion on its skin or...

    by Charger26

    else it gets the fist again:) Just ask mama...wheres that popcorn you owe me?

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 5:50 p.m. CST

    Who am I kidding...

    by smatt584

    Lithium us too big-time for a Michael Bay fan, how about PBR and whippits? Am I getting close?

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:01 p.m. CST


    by smatt584

    I got it! Spraypaint in a ziplock baggie! How else can someone get fucked up/retarded enough to enjoy such mindless shit? Maybe if I huff enough of that I can finally enjoy a Michael Bay movie! I think I'll miss the ability for abstract thought, but to hell with it.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 6:24 p.m. CST


    by FuckMichaelBay

    You are a mentally deranged moron. Go soak your popcorn in lemming butter, and drink it up with a 44oz mug of man-batter.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 7:01 p.m. CST

    Looks like Charger26 and smatt584...

    by drompter

    ...are irrevocably done professionally.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 7:57 p.m. CST

    "...the fridge scene, which is no more outlandish..."

    by hillvalley

    "...than Indy fighting Nazis on horseback, leaping out of a plane using an inflatable raft, or finding a 500-year-old Templar knight guarding the Holy Grail."<p><p>1.) Fighting Nazis on Horseback- Indy is first and foremost an action hero. He is supposed to be able to do things most people can't and win despite staggering odds. An audience must suspend its disbelief to an extent for almost any action movie, but a film has a responsibility to obey the rules of it's own universe. The nuked fridge simply crossed that threshold of believablity.<p><p>2.) Rubber life raft- Actually, the raft parachute from Temple was the only moment in the first three films that nearly shattered my suspension of disbelief. The way that thing wobbled all the way down surely would have thrown them all off, especially since they had no restraints keeping them in! But I had no doubt that if Indy, Shorty, and Bitchy had been thrown off the boat, they would have died with a splat upon impact. The nuked fridge shatters that supposition, because now apparently Indy has an indestructable body that doesn't defer to the laws of physics.<p><p>3.) Templar Knight- Every Indy film has some element of the supernatural and/or fantastic. I wouldn't go so far as some other TBers who claim that this make IJ a Sci-Fi series, but I don't necessarily have a problem with aliens being in IJ4 (which I suspect the Templar argument was really directed against).<p><p>In closing, no one short of Superman would have come out of that fridge in any shape but liquid goo, let alone a graying, 60ish archaeologist. Nothing, not one instance in the sum of all the pre-established Indy canon suggests otherwise. Dr. Jones is unusually lucky in life/death situations, that is for certain. But for the suspense of those life/death situations to work, the audience has to believe that the hero is physically capable of dying. That is why so many people felt their intelligence had been insulted when Indy "nuked the fridge".

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 8:02 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah, this is a Bayformers TB...

    by hillvalley

    Why does Devastators head look like a stack of off-road tires?

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:11 p.m. CST

    hey, you, Drompter...

    by smatt584

    You want me to trash your lights?!?

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 9:54 p.m. CST

    Watch out Drompter...

    by Charger26

    Smatt is using his gay lingo. "Trash you lights" really means "pound your hole" in his queer culture.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:01 p.m. CST


    by Charger26

    Does anyone know what this guy or girl or monkey is talking about? He tried coming onto me was gross. Im not into cross-dressing fags that channel all there homo hate at Transformer Movies. Maybe you and Smatt can fuck...each other. Just an idea. You canb take turns crushing each others brown walnuts with your baby dicks. Why stop there though...hel finger his dad and spit in his moms snatch while your at it. PS Fuck you Sincerely, Michael Bay.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:01 p.m. CST


    by Charger26

    Does anyone know what this guy or girl or monkey is talking about? He tried coming onto me was gross. Im not into cross-dressing fags that channel all there homo hate at Transformer Movies. Maybe you and Smatt can fuck...each other. Just an idea. You canb take turns crushing each others brown walnuts with your baby dicks. Why stop there though...hel finger his dad and spit in his moms snatch while your at it. PS Fuck you Sincerely, Michael Bay.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 10:44 p.m. CST

    There he goes again...

    by smatt584

    You really are a one-trick pony, aren't you? All you say is "blah blah fuck your brother blah blah I want to suck off Michael Bay blah blah gay blah blah fag blah blah fuck your mom blah blah walnut". Answer this for me, have you graduated middle school yet? I'm starting to understand why you pike Michael Bay so much; you're just as simple-minded and homophobic as he is. I don't even think you even get the fact that youre an idiot do you? I guess that would be like a chicken understanding how the poultry industry works.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:23 p.m. CST

    I didn't think it was possible but this looks...

    by Wcwlkr

    Even worse then the first Transformers. Is there a reason these things have to look like Bioncle rejects. This movie is going to be awful on an epic scale. I mean the first was pure eye rape, and this one makes my head hurt with each reveal of their retarded designs.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:32 p.m. CST

    These toys...

    by BiggusDickus

    ...will be 2 for $5 in Wal-Mart by Thanksgiving. You know it.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:36 p.m. CST

    FUCK FuckMichaelBay!

    by Lamerz

    Fuck him up his stupid ass.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:39 p.m. CST

    FuckMichaelBay really wants to SuckMichaelBay

    by Lamerz

    That's why he overcompensates with the hate. "I can't let the world know that I really want Bay's fat fuckin cock in my mouth, so I must act like I hate him more than any other fanboy homo." what a douche!

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:39 p.m. CST

    FuckMichaelBay wants to do a line ...

    by Lamerz

    ... off Bay's fat cock.

  • Feb. 11, 2009, 11:43 p.m. CST

    FuckMichaelBay jerks off to Bumblebee golden showers

    by Lamerz

    What a fuckin deviant!

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 12:16 a.m. CST

    Lamerz...the last guy at the gangbang, trying to jerk off...

    by FuckMichaelBay

    ...go home pussy. Send me a couple more links proving you're not a troll.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 12:17 a.m. CST


    by FuckMichaelBay

    The only thing I came on to...was your Mom's face.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 12:23 a.m. CST

    Fuck Steven Spielberg!

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    Not only for Indy IV.<p>Also, don't let that fucker near Ghost in the Shell. Ever.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 12:38 a.m. CST

    Who the fuck cares if I'm a troll ...

    by Lamerz

    You've more than proved that you are exactly that. A dumbass troll with nothing better to do than hate on a guy that is obviously successful and more than you'll probably ever be. You aren't funny, or even original. Give it the fuck up, loser.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 1:23 a.m. CST


    by Grrrr....

    Just to derail this thread some more.... CGI Gophers..... When I saw that I knew trouble was not far away. I can forgive the fridge scene. Yes, impossible but what the hell. Then came more shitty CGI followed by that horrible swinging monkey scene. And the ending. That is what ruined it for me. The rest I can forgive but jeez some of the effects were also so bad it took you right out of the movie. Now back to Transformers. The first had it's flaws but it was awesome to look at and helleva fun. The second will be more of the same. Now flame on some more my good friends, I always enjoy a TF talkback.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 1:24 a.m. CST

    Both of those look sick!

    by ganymede3010

    I can't way to see Devastor in action. I like the Fallen design allot better then the last toy we saw. This year is going to the best year ever for geek cinema. TF2, Avatar, StarTrek,T4,Watchmen, Wolverine, G.I Joe. Holy fuck now that's a line up:)

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 1:41 a.m. CST


    by Rommel Catuncan

    These kids today huh?

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 1:48 a.m. CST

    such ugly robots

    by cloudrider`

    who designed these, really. give me stan winston's robots anyday. these new tf are so unpleasant to the eyes even when they are just standing still. and when they move(and the camera shakes with it) on the big screen, it's akin to fingernails scratching on chalkboard.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 1:53 a.m. CST

    I like when Shia say

    by Rommel Catuncan


  • Feb. 12, 2009, 1:53 a.m. CST


    by most excellent ninja

    what the fuck? hahahahahahahahaha

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 1:54 a.m. CST

    Stop spitting Michael

    by Rommel Catuncan

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 1:58 a.m. CST


    by most excellent ninja

    you need to stop being such a homophobic cunt and realize that flames on prime because it appeals to idiots is not the same as Megs turning into a gun. If you were around for the first transformers talkbacks, you'd know everyone hated Megs' robot design because it looked like it transformed into a Chandelier.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 2:03 a.m. CST


    by most excellent ninja

    when Dark Knight is gonna fuck our eyeballs in 2008!!!

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 2:50 a.m. CST

    Most anticipated of 09

    by geek molester

    fuck, the Inglorious Bastards trailer sucks my balls!

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 6:37 a.m. CST


    by Grrrr....

    ....flaming, more flaming!!!! I get the feeling this thread is dying. Harry posted this to knock Bale's thread off so keep flaming! Remember, Transformers is made by Bay. Yes Michael Bay for goodness sake! And that main robot Prime, he has frieken flames man! Oh the humanity of it all!!!

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 6:38 a.m. CST

    And the designs...

    by Grrrr....

    ...the designs don't look like the 80's cartoons!!! FLAME!!!!!!!

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 12:40 p.m. CST


    by rogueleader66

    And fuck the fanoby cocksuckers for sucking its cock.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 1:43 p.m. CST

    I second that

    by Charger26

    FUCK AVATAR and all you little girls cheering for it. Let's give it up for MICHAEL BAY!!!!

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Re: most excellent ninja

    by Charger26

    I was around for those talkbacks. I just didn't care to say anything until I saw the movie ya dick eater. Now fuck you and your two gay dads...most excellent transsexual.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 3:03 p.m. CST


    by the1980mutant

    it's at least interesting. Hope the Fallen gets (at least) enough screen time to bring out the character. Devastator looks like one of the Big Daddy's from Bioshock.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 4:11 p.m. CST

    Once Had Yummy Labia!

    by bobjustbob

    And INDY 4 did suck... but not as bad as TF1.

  • Feb. 12, 2009, 8:50 p.m. CST

    Devastator and the Fallen are. . . Bionicles?!?!?!

    by Violator90

    WTF?!?! I thought the Fallen was suppose to be the size of Unicron!?!?! Devastator looks like something out of the Lego world! What's next? Sponge Bob Squarepants appears and transforms into a kotex! Nuke the fridge Bay! 'Splode it like only you can Mikey.