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"Teen Angst"?!?
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Awesome show.
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go fuck urselves
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was that it was the only scifi on tv at the time<p> The alien human hybrid - that is a dead trope. if not it should be murdered<br> esp if it gestates in days and then grows to adulthood in hours or days<br> esp if it's super intelligent and becomes the hope of both races<p> and by mid 70's nazi stories were done to death<p> No more nazi stories<br> No more nazi alien stories<br> No more nazi robot stories
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the V storyline of earth being covertly conquered by hamster-eating lizards will be upended when Erica calls an erstwhile CTU colleague who will singlehandedly bring down the entire alien lizard empire within 24 hours.
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The original V is a classic. Sure, looking at it now it seems a bit cheesey, but back in the day it was HUGE and somehow IMPORTANT. This remake sounds totally fucking banal & predictable: "Tyler is an uncool kid who wants to be cool..." "Father Jack - 30 years old, a Catholic priest, loosing his faith, blar, blar"...I think I'm gonna hide away in a bunker somewhere and resurface in 25 years time when maybe TV has some new ideas, 'cos this sounds fucking fucking awful. For shame.
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from species or number 6 from battlestar
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WTF? Seriously? Come back Beastmaster you are our only hope!
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And I thought ID4's computer virus idea was bad!
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The original series was an allegory. Not exactly a subtle one, granted. But it was ABOUT something. The rise of fascism. <p> How it would feel to America if a more powerful alien invader came in, took over, and said it was for your own good. (A flip-side look at US foreign policy) <p> Instead, ABC seems to be following the same thinking that Warners had when they made V into a weekly series. Specifically "We have lazers and spaceships. That guarantees the SF audience. Now we need to attract the mainstream audience with soap-like plots." <p> This will suck SO SO hard, John Holmes would rise from the dead to get his cock sucked by it.
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show over.
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I remember back when I heard there was going to be a new Battlestar Galactica series, I thought "omfg, who thought this was a good idea? So Lame..." And what I got in return was a heaping bowl of crow to go with my humble pie. It's entirely possible this could turn out to be another pleasant surprise against the odds. We'll see. What's the worst that could happen? It would suck like 95% of the rest of the shows on TV?
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Wow, wellllllll..... Seeing how I remember the Original V mini-series from when I was a kid (both came on in the early 80-ies) as well as the orginal novels and having read the recent Sequel/Re-booting of V novel.... The decription of the proposed "New V" series doesn't sound promising... I am missing already the hot Alien Sexiness that is/was "Dianah"..wow, Jane Badler was SUCH an incredibly hot piece of 80-ies Ass back then an played such an evil and campy character (Hey! there was even a hit of hot girl on girl Alien action between Dianahs character and the Blonde Alien ship commander too! Ha Ha!!) Sounds like the new characters are porr immitations of the Characters "Juliet Parrish" and "Mike Donnovan" the shows releuctant Resistance Leaders too... I will try and keep an open mind, maybe the description of the new proposed series isn't doing it justice...then again...???
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Still do. Oh and those character descriptions, are just horrible.
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even though its really old now, and was on a made for tv budget....its still somehow more visceral than most GGI - no matter how good the CGI fx are.
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but the character bios sound pants. V was a classic. needs some fucking good writers to make this happen.
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Its gotta be better than that show from a few years back.....what was it called Invasion or something like that?
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After all these years that snake baby scene still freaks me the fuck out
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Feb. 5, 2009, 5:34 a.m. CST
"a 40 year old with flawless looks & a gorgeous figure."
by Boomers_Lips
LOL, good luck finding anyone in Hollyweird that fits that description.
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Bale-Outism #7: "I see you walking in the background da da da!"
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if they don't keep the sinister Nazi overtones.
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There have been a few over the years. <p> Though many are no longer 40, it proves that such things are possible. <p> Michelle Pfeiffer.<br> Marissa Tomei.<br> Francesca Annis.<br> Monica Belucci.<br> <p> The current crop of famous actresses now 40 though? There's some hotties, but not many.<br> Jennifer Aniston.<br> Renee Zellweger.<br> Cate Blanchett.<br> Jennifer Lopez.<br> Diane Farr.<br> Rachel Hunter.<br> Catherine Zeta Jones.<br> Kristy Swanson.<br> Julie Delpy.<br>
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As to V, the character names sound so amateurish.
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has Renee Zellweger qualified as a hottie. And you left out Diane Lane and Selma Hayek.
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stupid record store movie in that scene in which she wore nothing but a tiny apron and acted like a mega-slut.
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They should have gone the BSG route and kept this remake tighter to the original - especially regard to the characters. There are great ways to update this story within the context of the state of the world today - but keep the same core characters from before. I hold out hope, because I LOVED V growing up - but I don't think this sounds promising.
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Some people think she's hot. (I'm not one of them, granted.) <p> And some people think Maggie Gyllenhaal is hot after seeing "Secretary" and personally I think she looks like a dog.
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There's "reimagining" and then there's "sticking the original's name on something that appears at most tangentially related."
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I LOVED V as a kid. I will at least give this a try :)
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Feb. 5, 2009, 7:59 a.m. CST
Cry Babies the only difference between this and The Gallactica R
by thecomedian
Is that they've changed the characters names. Gallactica kept the names but completely changed the characters (including changing their sexes in some cases) and added on this hokey "eventhough this is set in some future everyone wears dresses like their still in the 21st century. Presidents still have press conferences with reporters etc). <br> If you look at the character descriptions those are basically all the same characters from the original mini only Mike Donovan is a chick and the reporter lady is now Anderson Cooper. Diana and John have been merged into one character. They don't have the family with the grandpa who survived the holocaust. That about covers it. <br> Personally, with all the conspiracy theorist in today's world that ACTUALLY BELIEVE we're already being manipulated and ruled by Lizard People I think this new V should totally go the David Icke route. I mean, start it off like the original V where the motherships show up and the sexy benevolent visitors come out wanting only water but slowly uncover the fact that they're not actually "visitors" but they've been here all along controlling the human race and breeding them like cattle. This was just the easiest way for them to coming out. Make them shape shifters instead of the old mask bit. That way you're doing something similar to what Roland Emmerich is doing with 2012. You're capitalizing on an urban legend/popular myth people believe in already.
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I'm not really sure if I'm as excited about this as I want to be, but I'll give it a shot. The bios sound horrible and cliche, but most bios do anyway. This "Anne" character better have dark hair...I don't want another blonde bimbo running around all the time when we can have a hot hot hot woman with dark brown or black hair. Not that tickles my fancy just a bit and makes me hope for the unrated pilot showing some V-jay-jay....sorry...had to be said.
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I think the original V was a one-time win. Similarly, "AlienNation", which I love, I don't think would make it in today's tv-land, esp on broadcast networks.
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It was cancelled because no one liked it.
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was awesome entertainment.
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May be the best nick-name EVER given to a reporter by a hardened Merc. PLEASE find a way to work in Michael Ironside. Please?
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any time you can remember a one-liner by a character from a broadcast mini-series that aired 25 years ago, that character is a keeper. Right? I mean, do any of you actually remember anything that the original Apollo stated from the first BSG?
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was quite good. There is a scene where kids are tagging those Visitor "we are your friends" posters with spray paint, and Scary German Guy from Monster Squad walks up. His character in V was in the Camps during WW2 and the kids think they are in trouble. Rather, he places his hand over the kid's and helps him paint a large "V" over the Visitors propaganda poster. V for victory. An awesome moment, I thought, and I hope a new series could capture that moment, but I doubt it. I would love to see this in reverse, aliens come with awesome technology and we con the shit out of them, render them morally bankrupt, and then sent their asses skipping when we figure out their shiny boomsticks. Yeah.
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...and pick up where BGS leaves off. <br> <br> Continuity, baby! The evil splinter group can go on further rampages!
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What no Ham Tyler? this is so gonna suck.
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The 2 mini-series were done by a different crowd, and they were pretty fucking awesome. <p>
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As long as they don't fire up their leaf blowers befor 9am.
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Is it just to make some heavy handed TV point about Terrorism and racial profiling?
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I loved the first mini-series and the "Final Conflict." And to be honest I even enjoyed the beginning of V: The Series, even though the special effects got progressively worse. The first few episodes were pretty decent, I thought. Then they just kept killing off every major character and the plot became focused on the love story of the Starchild -- who was supposed to be like a year old! Creepy and silly. They virtually ignored every cool thing the first two mini-series set up. I not a big fan of "reimagining classics" unless they can find a way to keep it within established continuity, or unless you're going to do an actual "remake" of the original story and characters. This could turn into a Battlestar Galactica success or a Bionic Woman fiasco. We'll see.
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Feb. 5, 2009, 11:12 a.m. CST
Sorry I have to hijack this V talkback in the name of Star Trek.
by thecomedian
...Some dude in Denver actually robbed a 7-11 and another convenience store...WITH A BAT'LETH!!! <br><br> http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/18637190/detail.html#- <br><br> I thought things were going good for Michael Dorn with him playing the President on Heroes. Oh well.
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I remember thinking the blonde girl who was supposed to be the half-human half alien that was going to be the savior of the war or something was pretty cute. Then shortly thereafter caught her on some cheesy-80s straight-to-cable-teens-at-camp-Meatballs-knockoff...
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Well, he seems like a favorite to cast in everything else, so why not this?
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totally stock. just pull them out of the character names hat. toss, shake, repeat. just like Star Trek Enterprise crew names. a bad sign they're on autopilot
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Judging from the character description Rena Sofer would probably make the perfect Anna. She's forty, she's gorgeous and she's a brunette who could totally step in Jane Badler's shoes. Unless they want to got totally cheesecake, then I'd say Catherine Bell.
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What the FUCK is up with these characters, and the seventh-grade drama club casting call? ERICA EVANS sounds like a post-9/11 combination of Dana Scully and Muphy fucking Brown. FATHER JACK?!?!? BILL HEMMER?!?!? WTF?!?!? Where are the COOL characters?!?!? Where's HAM TYLER, or his portly, mute, Kevin Smith-esque mercenary sidekick, CHRIS FARBER?!?!? Where's MIKE "Beastmaster" DONOVAN, who would absolutely beat the living gerbil paste out of this milquetoast mtrosexual CHAD douchebag?!?!? Where's STEVEN, or JOHN, or [fanboy gasp] DIANA?!?!? And what's up with the writing? "Currently on the trail of a sleeper cell that has forged suspiciously accurate documents with suspiciously WASPy names"?!?!? Who the FUCK writes like that?!?!? I mean, except Harry... Did he get this shit from the same "source" who was supposedly on-set for Balegate? Wait, lemme guess: He knows this because he happens to be somewhere where someone that was there for the Visitor's last invasion was that day and for the Earth strategy sessions is. What?!?!? Oh, fuck it, whatever, nevermind. Go back to your laser pointer-lit doobies, your Megan Fox surveillance cam pics and your tour of German 'schiesse' parlors, Harry. It's all going to be okay. Trust us.
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Exactly. Kenneth Johnson is a pretty good writer. I was surprised at how serious the tone of 'V' was, particularly the first two-parter. It all fell apart when Kenneth Johnson was removed though. Typicla idiot TV bosses.
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They should take a page from the history of European colonialism. The Visitors should use a divide an conquer strategy. Get one group of indigenous Earthlings to fight with the others over the equivalent of beads, metal pots and iron tools. The Visitors should introduce either by accident of on purpose some disease that wipes out two thirds of the human population.
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It was to much of a soap opera. This will be too from the sound of it. It should be more of a action show. Kids won't watch this because it will be a soap opera. Adults won't watch it because it's a soap opera about alien lizard people.
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Evidence: V: The Final Battle and V: The Series. V: The Second Generation, Kenneth Johnson's TRUE sequel to V, is a masterpiece of science fiction that deserves to be filmed.
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The Final Battle was just exploitive, ratings desperate TV equal parts jiggle (Julie in that fleshtone catsuit jiggling her way through Diana's brainwashing)shock (the alien baby birth. The "did you fucking see that on TV last night" moment of my 4th grade class back in 84) and cheese (the magical starchild with inexplicable from either species powers saves the day). V: The series was just a shitty Dynasty retread with Diana and Lydia subbing for Joan Collins and whats her face.
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I would like to see it.
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Little bastard knew he was evil straight out of the womb. Never watched any of this before. So did they end up killing it or what?
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What about 50 year old male who is former special-ops and carries a bag of red death dust and a mac-10.<p> Michael Ironside Bitches!!!
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what does he do for dessert??
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let Robert Englund in too. Gotta love extraterrestrial milkbags... rrrrrr
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These names come off like they are deliberatly trying to change the names from the original. And everything sounds like a redux of sci-fi and genre drama of the last decade. Why not stretch out and try to find an allegorical topic that hasn't been beaten to death.
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after the initial 6 episodes.
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shed the only over 40 chick who would do a tv show.
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..better be playing 16 year old Tyler. The name "Ham" should be involved. Also- Marc Singer should be the Chad guy.
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This isn't Kenneth Johnson's V. <br><br> I've already seen Mike Donavon lose his son and go from being a TV camera man to a resistance fighter. I've already seen Julie tare John's face off and expose the visitors on national television. I've already seen Kristine Walsh murdered on national TV by Diana. I already saw the jewish family with the snot nosed grandson who sold them out because they were hiding scientists. I've already seen the hybrid baby being born. <br><br> Bringing back the exact same characters doing the exact same stuff would be a shallow retread. The original is awesome on it's own merits. <br><br> I got no problem with them using the same character archetypes but changing the names and sexes of some of the characters. Gallactica basically did that and patronized to the fans by keeping the character names. Kate Sachoff and Dirk Benidict pretty much only share the name Starbuck in common as far as their characters go. <br><br> The only character who I'd say should keep her original name is Anna/Diana. Diana is pretty much the most iconic character of the franchise and from this description the only main difference in this version is the whole sexy 40-something bit. Other than that she's obviously supposed to be Diana. <br><br> There are a whole slew of smoking hot brunette TV actresses that are in their early 40's. They could probably even wrangle in Famke Jansen with the hope of a regular paycheck alone. I just say Rena Sofer would be the best choice because she's someone we've seen in a lot of sci-fi TV and other stuff over the past decade who just hasn't had her shot at being a household name yet. I always think of her as the best Lois Lane that never was. And I can totally see her being the manipulative, pure sexy, evil that is Diana. Carla Gugino's got nice tits but she's a movie actress and she's too sweet. Marg Helgenberger is well over 50 and hardly a drop dead sexy 40. She was pushing 40 when she was on China Beach with Dana Delany 20 YEARS AGO. Catherine Bell might work too especially since she's a fucking scientologist so she's almost the real thing.
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Yeah, I went there. He's just Michael Ironside being the same Michael fucking Ironside he is in Scanners and Total Recall and Starship Troopers. The only difference between Ham Tyler and Richter is that one of them is evil. They're not going to get Michael Ironside anyway so what then? Some douche pretending to be Michael Ironside? Let it go.
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Not interested
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shes hot!
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V: The second generation is a book. You should be able to get it at amazon or any bookstore.
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everyone knows that...duh.
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If they really wrote "your a good man" in their message, then you should add a "sic" ...they are obviously idiots.
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...what a douche bag sounding tone in that letter. What were these awesome character descriptions anyway? "Lizard Man With Rubber Human Face"? What a unique and special intellectual property! douche bags!
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besides AICN, I don't see anyone else even mentioning or interested in this. No one else is fucking looking for them.
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hurts new shows trying to make it. Dumbasses...bit like this won't hurt the show and if it sounds stupid we might be able to help.
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Feb. 6, 2009, 8:25 a.m. CST
I would like to Quote "Battlestar Galactica" by saying....
by Arcangel2020
"Shove It Up Your Ass" Breakdown Services! Ooooooo...excuse the fuck out of Aint It Cool News' interest in the "so-called" remake/update of "V"...so someone may have leaked (basic) Info on the main characters in this proposed new series? Big fucking deal! It's not as if someone stole scripts and breakdowns of each and every episode you fucking morons I would have taken the interest and posting as a sign/show of interest and would have been flattered...but no! You have to threaten legal action and force this site to remove the info Way to go...you just turned off a lot of potential fans and viewers with you heavy handedness you fuck-tard!
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Feb. 6, 2009, 8:34 a.m. CST
Breakdown Services is just another hack advertising service....
by thecomedian
Like Backstage Magazine. Middlemen vultures. I'm sure ABC loves that some idiots at some casting service killed a possible early buzz on their next potential tentpole show. It was probably someone involved with the production that leaked this in the 1st place. Way to go Breakdown Services!
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That company doesn't have any rights to anything and you AICN guys should know that. Hey there is a General in Africa looking to put his money into someones bank about maybe you guys should contact him to help. I wouldn't have taken it down unless requested by the studio. There is no way, shape or form that these guys have rights to descriptions of characters.
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Well, "your" a fucking idiot. Come back and talk to me when you're up to a sixth grade reading level.
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...to be a good pilot. It is certainly different from anything else on network (non-cable) television. I love BSG...and this could be network television's answer for it!
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Feb. 6, 2009, 11:07 a.m. CST
When Breakdown Services created this copyrighted material
by MrSandwich
...did they use apostrophes?
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He surely weeps and laughs at what "Breakdown Services" says.
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Didn't ABC crash and burn with Invasion?!? That had potential and they blew it. Give this half a season at best.
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If Kenneth Johnson isn't helming this w/ total control - its gonna fail. There is no other way around this!! Why can't they get this through their fucking heads?!
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Best... cease and desist... ever...
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as leader of the milfships
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Gaddammit
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Little news flash for "Breakdown Services" -- as cute as you might think you are being with your short and sweet note, you're TOO LATE. The information is now out there and now everyone ALREADY knows this latest incarnation of V is UTTER SHIT and was conceived with the most cookie-cutter characters and concepts from Hack Show Creation 101.<p>So go pound your note up your fucking asses since no one wants to see your asswipe show anyway.
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Whatever her name was.
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Feb. 7, 2009, 11:09 a.m. CST
I wiped my ass with Breakdown Service's copyrighted material!
by Leafar the Lost
I can't wait for "V" to fail now. Fuck off!
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If I was the "copyright holder" of those shitty character breakdowns, I'd be pretty pissed that people all over the 'net saw what a fucking HACK JOB I'd done to Kenneth Johnson's original material and I'd prob'ly send out a cease and desist as fast as little prep school hands could type... <p> if only the FANS could send these douche nozzles a cease and desist for what THEY'RE doing to this property!
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