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Peter Dinklage To Play Tyrion In HBO’s SONG OF ICE AND FIRE??

I am – Hercules!!
This from an untested source:
I have a friend who works at HBO. While he said he has not heard anything concrete, he said he shared an elevator ride with Peter Dinklage last week. He followed up with a couple people and it seems that Mr. Dinklage will most likely be our Tyrion! Great casting, in my opinion. Call me Sir Bounteous Follywit.
Is it just wishful thinking? Info on Tyrion from Wikipedia:
Tyrion, (a POV character from the start of the series) is Tywin's third child, a misshapen dwarf nicknamed "The Imp" and "The Halfman". As a fan-favorite character, he is the personal favorite of the series' author George R. R. Martin as well.[1] Though Tyrion shares his father's talent for political maneuvering, he receives little respect from Tywin because of his deformity, sharp tongue, penchant for whoring, and the death of his mother during his birth. He is capable of cruelty to his enemies, but also has great sympathy for fellow outcasts and the mistreated.
HBO is turning George R.R. Martin’s series of “A Song of Ice and Fire” fantasy novels into a TV series. The plan is to adapt one novel each season, starting with 1996’s “A Game of Thrones.” Writing the HBO version are feature writers David Benioff (“The 25th Hour,” “Troy”) and D.B. Weiss (who authored a screenplay for the proposed “Halo” movie). These are apparently very long, grown-up fantasy novels, with thousands of characters – the major ones quite flawed and complex - and lots of sex, violence and political intrigue.

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  • Feb. 4, 2009, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Wrong tyrion entry from wikipedia.

    by V'Shael

    Come on guys, get it right.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 5:15 p.m. CST

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrion_Lannister#Tyrion

    by V'Shael

    Honestly, you people look so god damn amateurish when you make such simple fucking mistakes....

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 5:16 p.m. CST

    It actually says "WARHAMMER" in your cut-and-paste

    by V'Shael

    I know you haven't cracked the books, but do you even read what you cut and paste from Wikipedia? <p> Probably not.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 5:16 p.m. CST

    Wow

    by bigbaldpapa

    Not sure what I like about this.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 5:18 p.m. CST

    peter dinklage kicks ass

    by mcdowell_32000

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 5:19 p.m. CST

    Fantastic news.

    by TELF

    To be honest, the whole time I have been reading them I have envisioned him in the role -feel like I have almost seen him do it already. Best role for a little fella ever! He will win a bunch of awards for it, I reckon.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 5:30 p.m. CST

    V'Shael

    by OptimusCrime

    That is not the wrong fucking entry unless this article has been updated. I hope for the best out of this TV series, but the scope of the books is pretty daunting for television. Especially considering that the final three books haven't even been published.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 5:33 p.m. CST

    Did Hercules actually read, "A Game of Thrones?"

    by Leafar the Lost

    I love it when he wrote, "These are apparently very long, grown-up fantasy novels, with thousands of characters..." Have you actually gone ahead and read the fucking book? It isn't that long a book, but I guess it would be to someone who just reads Internet articles and the descriptions of free porn downloads. BTW, this is the way to adapt a fantasy book series to television. I hope that in the near future other producers follow HBO's lead. I would love to see Robert Jorban's "Wheel of Time" fantasy series brought to HBO or Showtime in the same way, but it would run for at least 11 seasons.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 5:35 p.m. CST

    excellent news

    by darklament

    I hope them pretty much paid him anything Mr. Dinklage wanted, because no one else could play Tyrion. Let's hope HBO keeps up the good work with the rest of the casting.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 5:42 p.m. CST

    "penchant for whoring"

    by Juror Number 8

    my goal for the day is to work that phrase seamlessly into a casual conversation.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 5:51 p.m. CST

    ...

    by blackthought

    this would be some good casting...

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 5:55 p.m. CST

    He was the only good thing in Prince Caspian.

    by blackmantis

    Liked him ever since Living in Oblivion.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 5:55 p.m. CST

    Now just release another book, poopbrain!

    by dead youngling

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 5:55 p.m. CST

    Lets get some casting ideas out there, team..

    by TELF

    Who do you like for Eddard, Jaime, etc? And who could be hot enough to do Cersei?

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 5:59 p.m. CST

    shouldn't they wait?

    by erendis

    until he finishes the goddamn series? it's been a really long time and I think he may have written himself into a corner. as an aside- Tricia Helfer would be a perfect Cersei

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 6:04 p.m. CST

    Once BSG is done...

    by darklament

    ...have the out-of-work actors go over to Song of Ice & Fire :)

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 6:08 p.m. CST

    Pete Postlethwaite/Roose Bolton

    by Fred

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 6:20 p.m. CST

    Um...

    by The Bunglermoose

    "These are apparently very long, grown-up fantasy novels, with thousands of characters..." I *have* read the books, and that's a pretty good way to explain it to folks that may or may not be familiar with the work. You should chill a little. But seriously -- Dinklage is perfect. And not just because he's a "name" actor who also happens to be a dwarf. (Or whatever the politically correct term is.) He's also a darned good actor, and has the quick wit to bring a character like Tyrion to life.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 6:21 p.m. CST

    Tricia Helfer!

    by TELF

    My almost namesake. Good work erendis. What about King Robert?

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 6:26 p.m. CST

    The can adapt this nonsense...

    by MaxTheSilent

    ...but not give us a worthy adaptation of King's THE DARK TOWER or Barker's IMAJICA.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 6:33 p.m. CST

    Perfect choice

    by MattmanReturns

    Now get the entire cast of Rome to play everyone else and we'll be good.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 6:42 p.m. CST

    My penis is giddy at potential of this show

    by Liberty Valance

    But if GRRM continues to take 5 years between volumes, the series will catch up to the books before volume 6 is out. As much as I want a season of "Game of Thrones," I want "A Dance With Dragons" on store shelves about 100x more. Finish it already you tubby fuck!

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 6:47 p.m. CST

    Pretty much the best series ever.

    by Venardhi

    Anyone even vaguely entertained by fantasy should pick these up. Personally I think Dinklage is about 10 years too old according to the books themselves, but I could live with this change just because of his talent. It looks like they're aging all the characters up about 5 years except for a couple of the kids (who probably could have benefited more). Either way, with 5 years of storyline already written (A Dance with Dragons is reportedly so close to being done that I'll count it) they could easily release a season every 14 months or so and still give Martin 6 years to finish the last two volumes.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 6:57 p.m. CST

    ...

    by blackthought

    i hope a dance with dragons actually hits shelves this year...

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 7:01 p.m. CST

    Great Actor

    by ThomasServo

    I'm more excited at the prospect of Peter Dinklage getting some good work than I am at the series itself. (Though I do really like the books. HBO will do them justice.) Dinklage is one of the very best actors working today, period. It's a shame he'll never get to be the traditional leading man because of his physical stature.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 7:03 p.m. CST

    Herc, you need to read it this summer

    by Fico

    What else are you going to do with no Lost/BSG? These books are amazing, especially the first couple. And let's be honest, that's probably as far as the series will get.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 7:20 p.m. CST

    ThomasServo, have you seen "The Station Agent?"

    by Shut the Fuck up Donny

    He pretty much played the leading man opposite Patricia Clarkson and fucking nailed it. Their chemistry made you completely forget his stature. <p> And as goofy as "Nip/Tuck" generally is, his character's brief relationship with Sean's wife/ex-wife was legitimate, believable, and fairly emotional. <p> Although the latter example isn't as true to the definition of "leading man," I think he's established he can take center stage in believable romantic roles.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 7:21 p.m. CST

    Leafar...

    by OgamiTito

    "I would love to see Robert Jorban's "Wheel of Time" fantasy series brought to HBO or Showtime in the same way, but it would run for at least 11 seasons. " No. No it wouldn't.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 7:34 p.m. CST

    "Those are brave men."

    by ebonic_plague

    "Let's go kill them." <p> Tyrion is a great character, pretty much the heart and soul of the story, and Dinklage is perfectly cast as Tyrion. It's like when Patrick Stewart was cast as Professor X, I don't think there's a better actor for the part. I suppose he could be uglier, but for the spirit of the character, he's perfect.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 7:38 p.m. CST

    At this rate they'll be up to season 5...

    by commiepinko

    ...before book 6 comes out. Can't wait to see it on screen though!

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 7:51 p.m. CST

    And, Herc...

    by ebonic_plague

    ...turn off the idiot reality TV BS every once in a while and pick up A Game of Thrones and see what you've been missing. When I met my girlfriend, we were comparing notes, I insisted that she watch The Wire and she insisted that I read A Game of Thrones... I got halfway through the first chapter and wasn't into it and put it down, and she watched an episode and a half of The Wire and did the same thing. Then, a few months later, I picked the book back up, got further in, got hooked and couldn't put it down again... while she watched further into the first season, got drawn in and watched the subsequent seasons in marathon sessions. Anyway, I still associate the two series together in that way, and I don't think its a bad comparison... the idea that they will now both be HBO series just tells me that HBO still knows quality. You should read these before the series starts, once you get into the meat of the story it's almost impossible to put down.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 7:53 p.m. CST

    You people are being awfully optimistic.

    by Pops Freshemeyer

    You all know that HBO will cancel the show before season two is completed. And I have zero faith in GRRM actually putting down his fucking pizza and finishing the book. Why work and finish the series when he can just go to comic conventions and have everybody kiss his ass instead?

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 7:55 p.m. CST

    MaxTheSilent

    by andtheflesh

    I love the Dark Tower series but it has absolutely nothing on these books. <br> <br> There's only two things that King's work has over the Martin series. <br> <br> 1. It's finished. 2. It's more pop culture accessible. <br> <br> A Song of Fire and Ice is like Lord of the Rings, if LOTR merely revolved around the human beings, coupled with the political intrigue and treachery from Dune. Not to mention that Martin's prose is leaps and bounds superior to King's. And I say that as someone that lives in Maine, and actually lived in Bangor about two minutes from the man's home. I love King, and as fine a storyteller as he is, he is, in my opinion, a shitty wordsmith.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 7:56 p.m. CST

    Castings

    by andtheflesh

    It's too bad that Mickey Rourke got all famous again. He'd have made a great Sandor Clegane.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 7:58 p.m. CST

    And for the fantasy crowd...

    by ebonic_plague

    http://tinyurl.com/5wkl9u <p> Pretty dead on. I wish I'd listened to this guy's advice regarding Dune.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 8 p.m. CST

    There really isn't any other choice ...

    by Itchy

    can you picture any other little person getting his pecker sucked by a whore and then stumbling out in a rage to go shoot a dude sitting on a shitter in the gut with a crossbow ? This is as much of a no brainer as casting Angelina Jolie as Cerseit and her brother from the Oscars as Jaimie Lannister.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 8:02 p.m. CST

    I can't wait...

    by andtheflesh

    ...but at the same time, I know that there's no fucking way HBO will finish the entire series. Especially, seeing as how the books are likely never going to be completed. Seeing has how it took Martin about 10 years to write the last 2 books, one of which isn't even out yet, and knowing that there's 2 books that haven't even been started, I really don't see them getting done before Martin has a heart attack.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 8:02 p.m. CST

    By the way, this series kicks more balls than any other

    by Itchy

    fantasy series ever. By far. And I hate George RR Martin for it, because that fat heart-attack-waiting-to-happen is so busy fucking painting miniatures and traveling the world going to conventions that he can't squeeze out another volume despite having 5 fucking years to do it. Seriously. The chances of him completing this series are slightly less than Robert Jordan completing the Wheel of Time ... and Jordan's already fucking dead.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 8:03 p.m. CST

    Oh - and I could cast this show with 6th graders

    by Itchy

    and it would still shit in the mouth of anything based on Terry Goodkind's craptacular spankfest of a series.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 8:04 p.m. CST

    andtheflesh

    by TELF

    The Hound is real ly tricky to cast I think. He has to be terrifying, but also able to give away hints of humanity and vulnerability. With Gregor you can just cast some big WWE brute, but Sandor has to be a really solid actor. Rourke would be great, but maybe a little modern-I was thinking Kevin Durand- he was Keamy in lost. They guy is 6 foot 8 and a really interesting actor.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 8:07 p.m. CST

    ebonic_plague

    by andtheflesh

    "Knights Who Say Fuck" perfect.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 8:09 p.m. CST

    Its actually going to happen!

    by Charlie_Allnut

    Now if we could just get Martin's fat ass writing again!

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 8:09 p.m. CST

    James Purefoy as...

    by andtheflesh

    Jaime Lannister. It's as if the character was made for him.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 8:10 p.m. CST

    The Hound = Ron Pearlman

    by ebonic_plague

    I defy you to tell me I'm wrong.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 8:11 p.m. CST

    The Hound = Ron Pearlman

    by andtheflesh

    I'm down with that...they'd better hurry up and cancel Sons of Anarchy though.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 8:14 p.m. CST

    Jon Snow & Arya

    by andtheflesh

    Are going to be the most difficult characters to cast I think. Arya especially. Daenerys will be tough as well. I can see Octavia from Rome pulling off the weak willed version of Dany but that dragon queen transformation...now that's going to be tough for just about any actress.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 8:15 p.m. CST

    Rome

    by andtheflesh

    Whoever said it earlier, I totally agree. About half the cast of Rome could be cannibalized for Game of Thrones.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 8:22 p.m. CST

    A Song of Ice and Fire casting

    by ebonic_plague

    I found this site that had a damn good rundown of some fan casting picks... http://tinyurl.com/baoglz <p> I like Diane Kruger for Cersei, but Tricia Helfer would work too. Emily Browning (from Lemony Snicket) as Daenarys is another good choice, as is the little girl from Silent Hill as Arya. There's a couple good picks for Sansa, Bran, and the Kingslayer, too.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 8:24 p.m. CST

    jon snow

    by jonsnow

    The real question is who is going to play Jon Snow? My pick would be Tom Cruise.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 8:45 p.m. CST

    Goddammit People

    by Venardhi

    Jon Snow is a teenager, The Hound/Sandor is in his 20s. Stop doubling everyone's age in these casting lists!

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 8:54 p.m. CST

    I'm not going to get exited till its underway

    by Quin the Eskimo

    seriously it's been like 2 years

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 9:12 p.m. CST

    Venardhi is exactly right

    by gooseud

    I love PEarlman as much as the next guy, but the Hound is 35 tops in the book, PEarlman is what, 55 at this point? And Gregor is the older brother, so who would they get to play him? Patrick Stewart IS Tywin though. Daniel Day-Lewis is also Eddard, but obviously the chances of him doing it are slim and none.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 9:13 p.m. CST

    in his 20's

    by jonsnow

    Yes, but Cruise looks like he is in his 20's still.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 9:18 p.m. CST

    The Wheel of Time has 12 books in it, the last one...

    by Leafar the Lost

    ...will be released later this year. Robert Jordan made tapes and notes so his last book could be finished by someone else. Have you seen a picture of George R.R. Martin lately? If he dropped dead tomorrow it wouldn't surprise me. I hope he made notes and tapes for someone else to finish the series. At least J. R. R. Tolkien actually finished the Lord of the Rings before he died. That fat ass, Martin, could have finished this book 2 years ago. His publisher should have put in some clause in his contract that required him to fucking write it all ready! You are a great writer, Martin, but you are no Tolkien. Write the fucking book before you drop dead!

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 9:19 p.m. CST

    Ned Stark

    by ebonic_plague

    It's too bad Viggo can't play him. I guess that's medieval overkill, though. But that would be a hell of an episode when Joffrey shows his mercy. <p> And I didn't think the Hound was so young. It's been a minute since I've read the books, but I pictured him as older.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 9:25 p.m. CST

    Goddamn...

    by ebonic_plague

    ...if I was Martin I'd die just to spite you fuckers. "You better not die... not because I give a shit about your life, just because you owe me a book!" No wonder he sticks to the cons.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 9:26 p.m. CST

    Casting

    by OgamiTito

    The kids will have to be aged up, otherwise you run into problems with subsequent seasons (see also: WAAAAAAALT!) Also, while I love Dinklage, they're going to have to ugly him up a bit. He's damn handsome, and the character's got to be somewhat misshapen. If his father says to Tyrion, "The only woman that would sleep with you is a whore," and he looks like Peter Dinklage...? Yeah, that's not true.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 9:28 p.m. CST

    The Hound

    by andtheflesh

    Yeah, suppose I never realized that he was so young. He always seemed a lot older in the novels. I guess it makes sense though seeing as how he's part of the new generation. Robert and Ned can't be much past their 50's in the books.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 9:45 p.m. CST

    Audio version

    by Doc Savage

    These books are amazing reads once you get into them. Where they succeed over most fantasy books is 1) GRRM is not afraid to kill off major characters, which gives weight to all events as you never know what is going to happen on the next page, and 2) the fantasy elements are rare over the course of the book. You don't have elves and such on every other page, so when something magical does happen it has weight. By the way, the audiobook version of this series is awesome and is worth a listen to anyone who can't wait for the HBO version. Roy Dotrice (who most recently was the elfking in Hellboy II) makes all of the characters distinct and truly brings this story to life. His version of Tyrion is fantastic. Highly recommended.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 9:49 p.m. CST

    "When was the last time you had a dream with a dwarf in it?"

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    "*I* don't have dreams with dwarves in them! Oh look, there's a dwarf, she must be having a fucking dream...!"

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 9:50 p.m. CST

    I could see the kid who played the younger..

    by commiepinko

    brother in Narnia as Jon Snow. Gary Oldman for Eddard.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 9:54 p.m. CST

    Danny Huston 4 Robert

    by commiepinko

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 9:57 p.m. CST

    Fuck yeah.

    by WerePlatypus

    Dinklage is perfect for this. OgamiTito is right though, they'll have to ugly him up a bit. What makes Dinklage perfect is his presence. . . the actor needs to convey the power of nobility, and I can think of no other actor but Dinklage who can do that with excellence.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 10:29 p.m. CST

    they should go out on a limb

    by crazybubba

    by casting a tyrion with attitude and cast that midget from Bad Santa. You tricked me into leaving my ho daddy, you selfish motherfucker.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 10:41 p.m. CST

    Shut the Fuck up Donny

    by BERSERKR

    I LOVE THE STATION AGENT!!! and as to the talkback itself, Peter Dinklage is perfect for the role. this is my favorite books of all time. i cant wait!!

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 11:01 p.m. CST

    This is nice and all but...

    by Cory849

    I'D RATHER JUST HAVE YOU FINISH THE NEXT BOOKS BEFORE YOU DROP DEAD, GEORGE R.R. MARTIN!

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 11:14 p.m. CST

    me too

    by crazybubba

    i'd love to watch an hbo series, but i'd rather he finish the books. isn't Martin gonna be heavily involved in writing the screenplays for the series because he worked in Hollywood for such a long time? Where's he going to find time to finish the books? I want to know what happens with Littlefinger dammit.

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 11:35 p.m. CST

    Re: "Robert and Ned can't be much past their 50's in the books."

    by Venardhi

    Robert and Ned are in their mid 30s. Jesus Christ people didn't you pay any attention to the time references they gave on anything?

  • Feb. 4, 2009, 11:46 p.m. CST

    BTW HERC.

    by Venardhi

    The official title of the series is "A Game of Thrones"

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 12:12 a.m. CST

    yeah

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    I didn't see them casting Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson in this role...

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 1:45 a.m. CST

    OptimusCrime: Article WAS updated.

    by V'Shael

    Herc just didn't fucking note that he updated it. He originally had a Tyrion entry from Warhammer in there. But he changed it after my posts went up and I supplied the correct link.

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 2:44 a.m. CST

    Good casting but I was hoping for someone else

    by Preacher_mg

    Jordan Prentice, who played Jimmy in "In Bruges", basically a modern day tyrion, including his liking for whores.

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 5:22 a.m. CST

    Jordan Prentice

    by Venardhi

    Both looks more like him, is closer in age and has a more suiting "constant sneer" that fits Tyrion like a glove. He may not be quite as skilled an actor, but it is hard to say considering how little we've seen of him. He had my support in the casting threads over on westeros.org. Alas, my far superior opinion seems to be ignored there. Oh, and fuck Keamy from LOST, that dude is far too douchey looking and acting to play The Hound. The hound is angry at the world and pretty much amoral, but Keamy was simply an asshole and there is a HUGE difference. Besides, the dude reminds me of my friend's room mate who likes to pee on girls in a baby pool in his bedroom.

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 7:08 a.m. CST

    I want to read these books

    by Tin Snoman

    but every time I see them in the store the covers are so bland and retarded they annoy the hell out of me and I can't bring myself to pick them up. Also, I'm not gonna get screwed like my Wheel of Time-reading friends who are still waiting for that last book. By the time the series is done maybe they'll actually pay an artist to do some covers and then I'll read it.

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 7:22 a.m. CST

    Tin, you may be right.

    by V'Shael

    Speaking as a WOT reader who gave up after slogging through book 7, I have to say I'm really enjoying the Song of Fire and Ice. <p> But I enjoyed the hell out of early WoT books too. So who knows if George will send the series up its own arse, or die before the end.

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 7:59 a.m. CST

    Dinklage riding a horse

    by ForkTongue

    That's the only part that may look a little strange but overall this is great news! <p> Hopefully this is the biggest hit HBO has and then someone has the idea to look at Malazan Book of the Fallen since it surpases anything else out there in fantasy.

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 8:27 a.m. CST

    READ THESE BOOKS!!!!!!!

    by BilboRing

    I swear these are the best books I have ever read. Second only to The Lord of the Rings. They might be better. And I am a HUGE Tolkien fan. Huge. These books are better than any movie, television series, or comic this site covers. Blows them all out of the water!!! I hope HBO can do the books some sort of justice. They are long but worth every page. HBO better not fuck up and do a season every 9 years or something dumb like that. If you want to get away from brain dead actors and their movies, READ THESE BOOKS!!! GRRM is a true genius.

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 8:28 a.m. CST

    Oh yes

    by CuervoJones

    Oh sí.

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 8:41 a.m. CST

    AGE ISSUES

    by BilboRing

    The hound and his bro are in their 20s by my guess. Robert and Ned are in their early to mid 30s. People over 40 in the book are considered old and no longer able to fight. Remember it is ancient times.

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 8:51 a.m. CST

    THESE BOOKS

    by BilboRing

    These books made me realize just how inferior and lame movies and TV shows are. Truly. My wife and I read these at night and could care less about television shows becasue of just how good these books are. My problem is I am almost done with Storm of Swords and after Feast for Crows there is nothing else to read until GRRM decided to write them again. I wish this site had more dedicated to geek books than their lame-ass, inferior counterparts (movies and television).

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 8:53 a.m. CST

    Ages, from an anal fan.

    by Venardhi

    BilboRing: Gregor was a teenager (guestimated at 17) during the war, which was aprox 14 years before the series starts. Thus he is at least 30. Robert and Ned were around 20, which Robert possibly a year or two older. I think Ned has been confirmed at 34. There are still plenty of knights who are very able at 40 (Barrisan Selmy is in his 50s.) A Farmer may be old at 45, but a noble would generally still be hearty at that age. Aging everyone up 3-5 years would be acceptable in most cases for the adults and older children. It is only the younger Stark girls that really need to stay their ages for plot reasons.

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 9:02 a.m. CST

    Oh man...we are not ready...

    by skycrapper

    for this greatness to be unleashed. I always picture Dinklage when I'm reading about Tyrion, I hope this is true. And Tin Snowman don't judge a book by it's cover. If it's pretty cover art you need to look at buy the British versions.

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 9:06 a.m. CST

    TWOT / The Dark Tower

    by arby64

    The Wheel of Time would only take 6-7 seasons tops. (1,2-3,4-6,7-9,10-11,12) 4-6 might be two seasons worth. The Dark Tower would be a 20-22 hour (miniseries/one season series) that would have to be greenlit in it's entirety from the beginning.

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 9:08 a.m. CST

    Casting

    by Scotious

    While it is fun to play the casting game, just know that due to the amount of characters in the novel, there's probably only going to only be a few famous to semi-famous actors in it. The rest will be unknowns. HBO is already worried about the budget.

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 9:15 a.m. CST

    Jim Caviezel as Eddard

    by skycrapper

    That would be my choice.

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 9:15 a.m. CST

    You know what's cool about Dinklage?

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    He's just got that cool deep voice thing going. That is incredible considering many with dwarfism end up with a high pitched voice like Verne Troyer. When I see Dinklage act I don't see a dwarf, I see an incredible actor.

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 9:23 a.m. CST

    Ray Stevenson (Rome) as Sandor Clegane

    by ides

    That casting would be just as perfect as Dinklage.

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 9:26 a.m. CST

    Different kind of Dwarfism Binks.

    by Venardhi

    Most I've encountered are of the Dinklage variety, short limbs and squat build (often with a larger than normal head) but not particularly 'small' on the whole. Some have a slight pitch to their voice, but it is far from a considerable proportion. I think it is only a few of the more rare varieties that cause vocal abnormalities.

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 9:48 a.m. CST

    Things I'm looking forward to from this show

    by skycrapper

    The Wall, The Others (not the ones from Lost, actually scary ones), Wolves as big as horses, the Dothraki, the sky cells, a throne made out of thousands a swords, "the things I do for love" and of coarse beheadings.

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 9:56 a.m. CST

    Skycells

    by V'Shael

    I always thought they'd never be as scary on film, as when you're just sitting there in your chair, thinking about it...

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Re: Skycells

    by skycrapper

    Anyone scared of heights would crap their pants. I picture them looking like a hornets nest off the side of a cliff. By the way GRRM posted a picture from the calendar on his blog. http://pics.livejournal.com/gr rm/p ic/0002cqck

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 10:33 a.m. CST

    Okay cool pic but...

    by V'Shael

    I totally don't see it like that in my head. :( <p> I imagine it as a room, with a sloping floor, and no wall on one side. Just sky blue outside. You can't see the ground unless you actually get really close to the edge. <p> Now, I'm not scared of heights. But when I brood about spending time in a cell like that, I get a little freaked out!

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Venardhi

    by BilboRing

    Thank you for clearing up the age thing. I am just going through my 1st round with these books (almost done with Storm of Swords) and I plan on reading them again immediately so I can start picking up all of the things I have missed, which is quite a lot I am sure. I can see aging the boys a bit since I think they are doing stuff in the books that a child would not really be able to do even in old times. The girls should stay the same. Especially Sansa. We shall see what HBO does. I have to admit I don't think they will do it justice. Or they will can it even if it's great. But if they are truly dedicated, which I know they aren't, then it could be one of the best shows ever.

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 10:58 a.m. CST

    Who will play one of my favorite character???

    by BilboRing

    HODOR!!! Hodorhodorhodorhodorhodor!! HO-DOR! HO-DOR!!!

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 11:21 a.m. CST

    I'll read the books based on your say-so ebonic......

    by morGoth

    ...hey, you've never steered me wrong in the past. Believe it or not, I don't really read much fantasy stuff other than, y'know, a certain trilogy. Anyway, I'm sure HBO will do great things by the book.<p>Boo-yah! Something else to look forward to from HBO!

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 11:24 a.m. CST

    Dang, almost forgot...

    by morGoth

    ...excellent casting as anything I've seen Dinklage in was top rate. I agree, he was very believable as the lead in 'The Station Agent.'

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 11:43 a.m. CST

    Good News

    by Cobbio

    If he's cast as Tyrion Lannister, Dinklage will likely do a bang-up job. He's likely been dying to sink his teeth into such a skewed, scheming and politically savvy, yet endearing character. Seems like an actor's dream gig.<p> I hope it comes to pass.

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 11:58 a.m. CST

    Am I the only one . . .

    by Nice Marmot

    . . . concerned about just how chopped up it will all have to be to fit one book per season? There's just so damn much going on. What do you all consider absolutely necessary and what can be cut out? Oh well, it's actually happening. Actually FUCKING HAPPENING!!!!! CAN'T WAIT!!!

  • Feb. 5, 2009, noon CST

    V'Shael

    by skycrapper

    I agree with how you think about the cells just a blue sky at one end of the room is very vertigo inducing. I picture the guards saying if you can fly you're free to go.

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Exactly skycrapper.

    by V'Shael

    At least the ground is a finite distance away. Staring into the deep blue beyond, is like staring into infinity....

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 12:12 p.m. CST

    There isn't that much that has to be cut...

    by Pops Freshemeyer

    Really, the books just go on forever because Martin can't stop describing all the food being feasted on. I think he's actually using the books as a food diary, with some action added in...

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 1:27 p.m. CST

    Venardhi

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    Yeah, I believe there are basically two types of dwarfism. It was all covered in a CSI episode, so if what TV tells me is true then you are correct.

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 2 p.m. CST

    Nice Marmot

    by MattmanReturns

    Actually I think a full 12 episode season is perfect for the books. Of course some stuff will be missing, but that's what the books are for. It's not like it's a 2 hour movie, at least. That would be impossible.

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 2:08 p.m. CST

    hmm...

    by blackthought

    hodor would be played by andre the giant circa 1968.

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Hodor

    by skycrapper

    How about Peter Mayhew? Too old?

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 2:19 p.m. CST

    Hope this works out

    by Pooter the Clown

    and kicks open the door for Feist's Riftwar. I would be very happy to see that.

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 3:45 p.m. CST

    As good as Gandalf

    by BackStJoe

    Scoring Dinklage is akin to geting Ian McKellen for Gandalf (or Magento for that matter). Unreal.

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 3:58 p.m. CST

    I Can't Wait...

    by seniorspeilbergio

    To see these talkbacks after the show hits the air. The posts will be longer than Shug Nights' rap sheet. Personally, Dinkledge does seem way too good looking for this. I would prefer a complete unknown and a little person who's body is more dispaportionate to capture Tyrions "waddle". And all these actors should be twice as old as there characters. It is a medievil world so i say Jeff Bridges for Eddard and how about Gene Hackman for Mormont. As for Jamie Lannister, I just keep picturing Brad Pitt around Legends of the Fall time. He almost played this character in Troy which, everytime I see that movie on TBS, i want to cry. I see Pitt playing Achilles and stabing that big dude in the shoulder and just shake my head and say "what a waste." Right performance, wrong story. Dammit Pitt!

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 4:11 p.m. CST

    Cersei

    by OptimusCrime

    I think that Sandra Lee on the food network looks exactly how I picture Cersei. If she could act, she'd be perfect. As for the person who recommended Angelina Jolie and her brother for the Lannister twins...you are an idiot. The Lannisters are always described as bright and golden, not sullen and dark.

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 4:13 p.m. CST

    my bad

    by OptimusCrime

    Its because of the incest thing, got it.

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 4:20 p.m. CST

    My favorite character is Arya.

    by johnnyangelheart

    Psycho killer, Quest que cest. Run run run run run run run away.

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 5:03 p.m. CST

    Also..

    by seniorspeilbergio

    Geoferry Rush for Littlefinger and Harvey Keitel as Davos Seaworth. By the way, I'm suprised that Harry hasn't read these. He likes all those John Carter and Tarzan books so what's hi excuse for not reading this? Maybe instead of popping in a movie for once, he should crack open A Game of Thrones because the Martins story is far superior to anything in tv or movies right now. BY FAR. Ah, I can't wait for this to air and watch all of the non reading, media controlled geeks on this site loose there fucking minds at the awesomeness of this completely uncomprimised fantasy tale. Fuck, Jordan, fuck Goodkind, fuck Narnia, fuck Golden Compass. Fuck em all. Winter is comming bitches!

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 5:53 p.m. CST

    Gods be good! The Dink IS Tyrion! But please no Tricia Helfer!

    by Snake Foreskin

    I am currently reading a Feast for Crows, the fourth novel in the series. From the first time Tyrion was described in A Game of Thrones I pictured the Dink. He was born to play that role. George R.R. Martin himself has written the character with the Dink in mind.<p> But the dumbasses crying for Tricia Helfer as Cercei Lannister couldn't be more simpleminded. "Oh, look! She has golden hair! She should play Cersei!" Gimme a break. The actress needs to be cold-blooded and beautiful. Helfer is not the right choice at all. I would prefer Sienna Miller in the role. She would pair up beautifully with Jaime Lannister played by Heath Ledger. Oops! Too bad he isn't around to play the part. Perhaps Charlie Hunnam, then?<p> Since I don't know of many (any) almost 8 foot tall hulking men, I think the characters of Gregor "The Mountain" Clegane and Hodor would have to be made larger with camera trickery, a la Hagrid in Harry Potter and the Hobbits in the LOTR movies.<p> Wow, if they don't muck this up, this could be the television event of the century. It would make even ROME pale in comparison!<p> Go Dink!

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 5:58 p.m. CST

    Ron Perlman would be a great Sandor Clegane

    by Snake Foreskin

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 6:33 p.m. CST

    Helfer as Cersei could work...

    by Werthead

    "The actress needs to be cold-blooded and beautiful. Helfer is not the right choice at all." I don't think she's got quite the right look for Cersei (Cersei isn't described as being really tall, which Helfer is), but she's more than got the acting chops to pull it off.

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 7:11 p.m. CST

    I Don't know...

    by seniorspeilbergio

    Cersei is more regal than Helfer and Helfer's too laid back. Cersei is definately a high strung, type A personality. I would be happy with an unknown that's something more like a young Nicole Kidman. Look at her in Far and Away and The Others. That's more like Cersei.

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 7:16 p.m. CST

    Snake Foreskin

    by Venardhi

    Did you not read the talkback, we've already established that Ron Perlman is 2x Sandor's age. It is true that Martin envisioned Sandor as Perlman when he started the series. . . 20 YEARS AGO. Also, I don't know how you could get the image of Dinklage considering Tyrion is described as ugly as sin, with blonde hair peppered with black and white, strong arms and in his early-mid 20s. A Dwarf is a Dwarf though right?

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 8:55 p.m. CST

    Eh

    by jdb1972

    I think of SOF&I like Grant Morrison's comics: much less than the sum of their parts. I love some of the ideas and characters, but don't really care for the books themselves that much. And, of course, once I learned they were loosely based on the Wars of the Roses, I lost any remaining interest.

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 9:49 p.m. CST

    The actual age of the actor DOESN'T matter; they're ACTORS.

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

    Despite being classified as "fantasy" for marketing reasons only; A Song of Ice and Fire is far more "medieval realism."<p><p>People appeared to age faster in the medieval ages. Kids developed into adults faster. It was a time of harsh living conditions; living to age 40 would have been rare.<p><p>Actors act. That's what they do. The age of the actor and the age of the character have little in common. Kids have to be kids, but aging them a year or two doesn't matter.<p><p>Dinklage would be perfect as Tyrion! Everything about this seem first rate; I hope they keep their intended quality.

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 11:23 p.m. CST

    Right on, MorGoth!

    by ebonic_plague

    I don't doubt you'll dig the series. And If you get into the books like I did, you'll probably be finished with them right in time for the next one's release!

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 11:35 p.m. CST

    Syrio Forel to be played by...

    by BiggusDickus

    ...ME!<p>Why not? Bald head, big nose, half-decent fencer. This could be my big chance, people!<p>Just so.

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 11:38 p.m. CST

    Failing that, I'm quite prepared to play...

    by BiggusDickus

    Jorah Mormont. Anyone got a raven I can borrow?

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 11:42 p.m. CST

    Snake Foreskin...

    by BiggusDickus

    What's wrong with Tricia Helfer? Cersei is a cold, calculating bitch who uses her sexuality to get what she wants. Helfer has already proved she can nail this playing Caprica Six, so why not?<p>Nice thinking, erendis, it works for me!

  • Feb. 5, 2009, 11:45 p.m. CST

    Age kinda matters

    by Scotious

    A few years difference is fine, but to have Ron Perlman playing a guy in his mid-20s is stupid. Yeah, he's cool, but so are a lot of other actors closer in age. Plus, the character has an older brother who's supposed to be one of the most intimidating knights ever. Would he be played by a 65 year old? Besides, if HBO does pick up the pilot and God willing actually makes it through seven seasons like the books (which I doubt), those actors are gonna be old. Especially since HBO sometimes takes its sweet time between seasons...

  • Feb. 6, 2009, 9:30 a.m. CST

    seniorspeilbergio.....

    by BilboRing

    WINTER IS COMING!!!!!

  • Feb. 6, 2009, 10:17 a.m. CST

    This pilot script is online.

    by skycrapper

    http://www.bo x.net/shared/e046 azo9j2 It seems legit.

  • Feb. 6, 2009, 1:40 p.m. CST

    The script.

    by Venardhi

    Ugh, some of that dialogue is painful to read. Hopefully this is an early draft.

  • Feb. 6, 2009, 1:49 p.m. CST

    I bet it's a small part...

    by uberman

  • Feb. 6, 2009, 1:50 p.m. CST

    The part of TYRION is pretty big shoes to fill...

    by uberman

  • Feb. 6, 2009, 1:52 p.m. CST

    TYRION's part dwarfs that of the other characters...

    by uberman

  • Feb. 6, 2009, 1:53 p.m. CST

    Dinklage will take any role, no matter how small...

    by uberman

  • Feb. 6, 2009, 2:47 p.m. CST

    BILBORING....

    by seniorspeilbergio

    BOOYAH!!!

  • Feb. 6, 2009, 3:28 p.m. CST

    Just Finished Storm of Swords Last Night

    by BilboRing

    What a fucking brilliant book!! I never said "Holy Shit" so much in my life!!! I will start reading Feast for Crows next week. Hopefully Dance of Dragons comes out in 2009.

  • Feb. 6, 2009, 3:30 p.m. CST

    As for the actors...

    by BilboRing

    I'd rather see it full of no names who can act since this could possibly/hopefully be a 7 season adventure. HBO makes me nervous as it is. We don't need greedy superstars mucking up production either.

  • Feb. 6, 2009, 3:31 p.m. CST

    Hey BilboRing. . .

    by Venardhi

    . . . Jaime Lannister sends his regards.

  • Feb. 6, 2009, 9:11 p.m. CST

    Not sure about Dinklage, but this guy...

    by catlettuce4

    Yeah, Dinklage is good and all, but I'm just not sure of him for Tyrion. This guy however... - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0458514/

  • Feb. 7, 2009, 6:28 p.m. CST

    Cersei casting

    by jonsnow

    I think that Lucy Lawless would fit the bill pretty well if you ask me.

  • Feb. 7, 2009, 7 p.m. CST

    Pratt/Bloom best pick for Lannisters by far

    by jonsnow

    To cast Orlando Bloom as Jaime Lannister and Victoria Pratt as Cersei Lannister would be the best casting decision in history, they practicaly look like brother and sister.

  • Feb. 8, 2009, 11:27 a.m. CST

    Cersei Casting

    by Mandamas

    Rosie O'donnel anyone?

  • Feb. 8, 2009, 9:40 p.m. CST

    Alexander Skarsgård for Jaime!

    by deviloki

    Alexander Skarsgård for Jaime, Tricia Helfer for Cersei!

  • Feb. 9, 2009, 8:16 a.m. CST

    Who will play the fiery dornish peppers?

    by CatoTheCensor

    I think a habanero and maybe a red fresno could pull it off with some makeup. What about the bowl of brown? Who will play that?

  • Feb. 9, 2009, 8:29 a.m. CST

    Venardhi

    by BilboRing

    That Red Wedding messed me up big time!! I read the chapter 3 times to make sure I was reading it right. Afterwards, I was so worked up that I could not fall to sleep for 3 hours!! I did NOT see that coming!

  • Feb. 9, 2009, 10:43 a.m. CST

    Symon the Silver Tongue plays the bowl of brown!

    by Snake Foreskin

    Don't you remember?<p> By the way, Dinklage was the very actor George R.R. Martin was thinking of as he was writing the character of Tyrion. Don't give me any of that "a dwarf is a dwarf" bullshit. I am not saying that at all.<p> But how many truly great dwarf actors have you seen? Dinklage is a great actor who is perfect for the role. Not just because he is a dwarf. Because he can act the hell out of that role.<p> Tricia Helfer is just not right for Cersei. I am sorry, but she just isn't.<p> Ron Perlman could play Sandor Clegane very easily, even if he is "too old". Half of Clegane's face is charred and scarred by fire. It would be relatively easy to age him downward somewhat, especially with only half of a face to worry about!<p> Man, I want this done right. But like with most of the adaptations out there, budgetary constraints will likely hamstring the "greatness" right out of this project.<P> That said, the show wouldn't have to be done with a bunch of big name talent. If they can find some truly great "unkowns", this could still happen and be glorious in its happening!

  • Feb. 9, 2009, 11:02 a.m. CST

    Bilbo, I almost stopped reading the series right there.

    by Snake Foreskin

    I was so pissed at Martin for doing what was so obvious yet so outrageous.<p> It was as if he had made a promise and then purposely decided not to fulfill that promise. I felt like that when Theon was chasing after Bran and Rickon. Then the next thing you hear, he has the boys' heads on spikes. I was beside myself with disappointment.<p> For people who haven't read the books, I will give you a cinematic example. Imagine watching The Black Stallion. Coppola painstakingly forges a relationship between a young boy and an unbroken Black Stallion. Stop there, pervs. Not THAT kind of relationship.<p> The horse saves the boy's life, and the boy earns the stallion's trust. They become like brothers. The audience is treated to witnessing this wonderful relationship between horse and boy.<p> Now imagine, in the middle of the big climactic race, as the boy is jockeying for the finish astride his magnificent Black Stallion, the boy slits the horse's throat amd leaps off. The horse stumbles and tumbles sickeningly across the track, end over end. The boy walks up to his horse, slits its throat and drink its blood. Then he stalks his way to Mickey Rooney and begins savagely beating the old man. He squeezes out Mickey's eyeballs and then begins to peel the skin off of him one limb at a time. As the crowd rejoices around him, the young boy flays the old man while still alive. End Scene.<p> You'd most likely be saying to yourself, "WTF did I just see?!"!!! That's what the Red Wedding was like.