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Why AICN Doesn't Post Links To Stories Like This Christian Bale thing that's everywhere!
Hey folks, Harry here... I'm getting slammed with assloads of people angry at me for not posting the Bale explosion from the set of McG's TERMINATOR: SALVATION. Well, first off - there's a real simple reason. It isn't news. And it certainly isn't cool news. It is a moment in a man's life taken completely out of context and most likely leaked to personally embarrass Christian Bale.
Now, I know what a lot of you are thinking... There's no excuse for a temper tantrum like that to ever occur and if you are going to act that way, you deserve to be embarrassed by your own actions.
Except, you want to hear the REALITY behind that clip?
I know this because I happen to be somewhere where someone that was there that day and for the shoot is. And this person isn't a publicist, nor are they invested in Bale's career. They're just someone that thinks it is absolute bullshit that this moment in Bale's life is being aired and that the real story should get out there.
The DP on TERMINATOR SALVATION, Shane Hurlbut, is a apparently a light tweaker. He's a fairly young DP and likes to fiddle with his lights on set during action, which is a big "NO NO" on most productions unless worked out in advance with performers. But apparently Shane was a pretty unrepentant light tweaker.
The scene in question, was a very emotional and tough scene between Christian Bale and Bryce Howard. A scene that required soul bearing and a deep level of immersive concentration. The sort of scene where everyone on set knows not to get in anyone's eye lines, and definitely not to move lights around while FILMING. You lock that shit down before the scene starts.
Bale had indeed warned the DP on multiple occasions about messing with lights while the cameras were rolling, and Bale was in the midst of a painful scene with Bryce, what was described to me as being the emotional center of the film and his character for the film.
Now, the reason I know all of this is because the person that was there, felt that it should be made perfectly clear that Christian Bale was the utmost gentleman and cool guy on set. And the DP really was doing something that professional DPs with experience just don't do. Not during a performance.
You don't need me to give you a link, it's all over the internet, I just felt that you should know what really went down - and that this particular outburst did indeed modify the DP's behavior - and for future DPs. Fuck with the lights before and after your actors are acting. Not during.
I stay out of the 'personal gossip' arena because frankly... can you imagine your personal shit aired for all to see. None of us are perfect, and certainly we have all sinned to some degree. Actors, Actresses, Celebrities and the people exploited on sites like TMZ. They're human beings that I personally feel are owed the same inalienable rights that the rest of us hold dear.
Can you imagine cameras documenting your every attempted private moment. This moment was something that occurred in the heat of a moment on set between professionals. The audio is so clear on Christian, that it's obvious a mike was on him or a foot and a half above him. These are the sorts of moments that are private affairs. Yet somehow, because he's an actor. We feel it's permissable to air his dirty laundry. It isn't our business. It isn't anybody's fucking business. Will this affect TERMINATOR SALVATION? Will this give us insight into his character? Only because I found some details out, do we know it was in the midst of a scene between him and Bryce Howard. But that's accidental... and certainly hasn't been revealed by CNN or any other media, because they just run the clip with BEEPS. Is it funny? I suppose it may be. It allows regular people to laugh, point fingers and call someone other than themselves an ASSHOLE. But frankly, I find it disgusting. It's the exact thing that I made AICN to not be about. I wrote this, not to create an endless TALKBACK, but to express my opinion on the spreading of stories like this and making Christian look bad, when he isn't.
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FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK
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I'm with Bale also.
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..Spielberg's laptop. Yeah.
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Good audio. Listen for the plane flying overhead.
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Thought so! Go Christian.
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Very well said.
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"I know this because I happen to be somewhere where someone that was there that day and for the shoot is."
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You trash my scene, and I WILL trash your talkback, asshole!!!
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If you don't post a link, I'M GONNA COME OVER THERE, AND I'M GONNA KICK YOUR FUCKIN' ASS! DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH!!!
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...I thought he was a dabbler in methamphetamines.
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The guy's a "light tweaker," so that's an adequate reason to be cussed out in front of dozens of people? Total B.S. Christian Bale is awesome, and is Batman as far as I'm concerned, but he made a jackass out of himself this time.
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Is shorter.
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Why? Because Bale's a hothead that beat his mom and sister. Or was that "absolute bullshit" as well?
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It's does not matter dude. No one should yell at anyone like that. Bale talks about being professional. he so was not doing that when going off on that guy,
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Shouldn't that be McG's job?
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It's audio. We do not know exactly what went down. 115 degree weather, long day trying to get the shot and a guy is walking around while your reaching for your character.. I would be mad too. But he handled it all wrong. Mc G should be running a tight ship on set. I mean ''Quiet on the set'' means?
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"I know this because I happen to be somewhere where someone that was there that day and for the shoot is." love that.
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You know how that shit feels when they just tear you down in front of all your peers...it doesn't feel good at all. If the guy just wasn't listening from previous events, I could see, but if it was an accident or it was something he needed to do to make the scene better, Bale was wrong.
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Feb 03, 2009 3:05:00 PM CST
Can someone create some animation to go along with the audio?
by thebearovingian
That would be great, really great. Really, really great.Maybe use the Bill O'Reilly Inside Edition blowup footage with this audio? "We'll do it live!! Fuck!! We'll do it live!!"
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the emotional core? Bale has rage issues. We've known this for years. It's part of why he played Patrick Bateman so well. Don't excuse it. He's a perfect gentleman? Yeah, just like that boyfriend who's the best guy ever, except when he gives you a black eye twice a year. That said, it's a shitty thing to do to leak this tape and it ISN'T news and shouldn't be reported as such.
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I talk like that when people don't move out of the way in NYC trains. totally acceptable.
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Feb 03, 2009 3:05:29 PM CST
Oh, well in that case it's okay that Bale threatened to beat the
by zeroc
Thanks for clearing that up, Harry.
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Becaude McG should feel honored to be in Bales presence, thats why. Let Bale do his thing--he was in EMPIRE OF THE GODDAMNED SUN!!!
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We all know AICN doesn't post gossip when it comes to actors' behavior. Only relevant if its gossip regarding film.
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How do we know that your source is reliable? I understand you were inundated with emails from angry talkbackers but this is your response? That's a joke Harry. If you have such a major problem with Bale's outburst getting attention than don't shine a light on it even more by saying you know someone on the set that knows this and that. We heard him freaking out and going way over the top on trashing the DP. A professional way to handle it would have been to go straight to McG and have him put an end to it. Not a tirade on a locked down set. We don't know the context at all, so how do you know McG didn't want the lighting tweaked. You just bashed this "young DP" by making it look like it's his fault. Just because you have some insider knowledge doesn't make it the truth.
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That is basically what your whole post says. You contradict yourself by saying you wont post about the audio clip but go and do it anyway. Than make a very lame excuse. So what if he is a light tweaker that does not give anyone the right to talk to anyone like that. The DP actually came off really well by apologizing straight away, Bale came off like a total prick.
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McG, the DP and Bale were all obviously unprofessional, but ultimately McG should have pulled that shit aside.
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Feb 03, 2009 3:08:49 PM CST
Was he a perfect gentleman when he beat up his mother, too?
by jackpumpkinhead
Did he warn her several times in advance?
From distance, it all actually seems far simpler than a "he's not a bad guy" tale. In fact, it seems more like this: skinny Machinist --> swollen Batman --> 'roid rage! -
Feb 03, 2009 3:09:16 PM CST
Going off on a 5 minute, psychotic tirade and threatening physic
by jj9126
...is ok because it was really hot outside. Got it.
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Check out the youtube dance remix version. Freaking hysterical! I love near the end when he says "I'm gonna kick your fucking ass!", and it sounds like there's a brief scuffle as Bale rushes towards the DP. I wish there was video, as well. Who was holding Bale back? McG? Un-Mc-Fucking-likely!
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Mom & sis Bale were prolly behind it like the last anger management incident. But I worry not 'cause even mushface Rourke got a comeback.
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Feb 03, 2009 3:10:34 PM CST
"The scene in question, was a very emotional and tough scene"
by garbageman33
Um, Harry, it's A FUCKING TERMINATOR MOVIE!!
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That is the new catchphrase of 2009. Dudes are going to be using that to breakup with their girlfriends and shit, kids will be saying it to their parents....hilarious.
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If you're not going to post links because its "not news", perhaps you should have refrained from your subsequent editorializing. If you want to take the high road, that's cool, but stick to it.
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it's good to see someone bring the truth out. Based on this account, I don't blame him for blowing up. He's fucking human!
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Bale yelled, because talking CALMLY to this DP didn't seem to sink in. He had told him MULTIPLE TIMES. Told his director MULTIPLE TIMES. And the putz kept tweaking the lights during action, and in this case during the peak moment of what he felt was the character's key scene.
As for "HITTING HIS MOTHER" - that's disproven gossip. His mother and sister, who he is estranged from, showed up at his hotel room drunk and screaming about wanting money. He was verbally abusive, never laying a hand on them, wanting them to leave him and his child in peace.
Folks - think about this. Think about Bale as one of us. Do you have a family member that's a fucking embarrassment? Have you ever screamed at a parent, a friend, someone you know who is being fucking obnoxious? That's what happened between Bale and his Mother/Sister. And in this situation, I personally hold McG responsible for not having his crew locked down during a very emotionally tough scene, where a very serious actor was doing very serious work. -
He's Batman and everyone adores him, ergo he must be a perfect human being without a hint of ego or malice in him. If this was Tom Cruise, George Lucas, ANYONE affiliated with Fox or someone else out of favor with the geek community, AICN would eviscerate them for being a colossal douchebag. But not your beloved Dark Knight, for he can do no wrong. Bale threatens to harm this guy physically and wants to fuck his career over because of one mistake and you defend him. Bale is just another egomaniac taking his "art" way too seriously. It's a fuckin ACTION movie dude. You're not making Schindler's List here. I'm glad he's passionate about his craft but he's not negotiating a cease-fire in the Middle East or sending troops into battle to die. It's a dumb, loud, fun action movie and nothing more. His rant is deplorable and you should be ashamed for defending it.
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Get Bale's cock out of your mouth. There is no excuse, in any industry, for that type of outburst. Bale physically threatened the man. A big no no. He's a humorless, too-wound tight prick that makes Terminator and Batman movies. He's not saving the fucking world. I don't care what the DPs actions were, there is a right way and wrong way to deal with such things on set (or in life for that matter). His was the wrong way.
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So it's not like he's fresh out of film school.
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his behaviour was beyond childish
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http://balevsoreilly.ytmnd.com/
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the actor is doing his job, the DP should be doing theirs. you don't go up to a golfer in mid swing and change their club. you don't run out and tap on the mic when a lead singer is singing.
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People in the industry won't even blink an eye to this stupid media "headline".
People, this happens every day on any given set, especially with such actors as Christian Bale. We are blessed with their amazing performances because of the mind set they take on when they hear "Action", and with method actors like Bale, Day-Lewis, De Niro, Pacino, Nicholson, etc. this happens before and after the cameras role.
Imagine trying to engage yourself into the reality of a scene only to see a DP or crew member walk in the line of sight without any consideration. And by the sound of it, this happened more than once.
Bale shouldn't be singled out because I promise you that a majority of the best actors out there had a few moments like this. Heck, he even pointed out that the DP was a nice guy, but professionally...
People in the industry won't even blink an eye because they know the realities of filmmaking.
Leave it to the media to blow this out of proportion.
Acting isn't fucking easy. I'm not an actor and even I know that. People think it's all just pretending like frackin' children. It's not. Actors dig deep down and it's hard to emote those emotions and truly nail it. So then comes some young DP with no consideration and distracts you while you're trying your best to sell the moment. He had every right. Sure, for the general public it might seem a little too much as far as his reaction goes, but the general public doesn't understand how damn hard it is to make films. To say Bale is an asshole or whatever is to say the same to nearly every acclaimed director, producer, and especially actor.
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I used to be a line cook in a four star kitchen and the head chef did shit like this all the time to cooks who inadvertanly messed things up. Rather they took it as a learning experience or not, it was totally uncalled for. I know acting is an intense thing to the actor in question, but Bale still should have been (or possibly was) sorry for the outburst.
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HE'S NOT WEARIN' HOCKEY PADS!!
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I read that this tape was saved in case Bale quit the movie. Anyone else hear this?
TMZ site says Christian Bale was one giant raw nerve days before he allegedly pushed his mother.
TMZ spies tell us Bale was on the set last Friday shooting "Terminator 4" at Kirtland Air Force Base in New Mexico.
During a scene, Shane Hurlbut (seriously), director of cinematography, screwed up a shot -- at least in Christian's mind. We're told Bale went wild, screaming "I will kick your ass" along with some other choice remarks. Several hundred people -- including Military Police -- heard the outburst, which was described as "intense."
We're told Bale was "extremely tired and having a bad day."
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If the guy was messing with lights he made a mistake. Bale's reaction was a mistake. Just like we all make. Everybody seems to forget that. Nobody's perfect in anyway. In the end, it affects nothing in your lives. Move the fuck on.
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Headgeek: "His mother and sister, who he is estranged from, showed up at his hotel room drunk and screaming about wanting money."
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Harrys licking ass, bale threatened the guy with violence & humiliated him in front of god knows how many people,please dont condone this.....bale was bang out of order, if this was a scorcese or speilberg film i'm sure bale wouldn't have acted this way....as for the director what a coward!! Nobody likes a bully!!
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They are not filming motherfucking There Will be Blood or Shawshank Redemption. Theyre making a damned action movie, meaning any scene where two people are talking without explosions simultaneously occurring in the background counts as its emotional center. Its like saying Bill Pullman would be justified in cussing out and embarrassing a set worker on ID4 if they distracted him during his "this isn't just independence day for america, its independence day for the world speech" beacuse its so darn emotional.
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Christian Bale can yell at incompetent DP's all he likes. I couldn't give a rat's ass.
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So we're not going to come at it from a Hollywood standpoint. That goes for everyone that does something wrong though..."walk a mile in my shoes", but it still doesn't always fly.
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I'm thinking that...they will BOTH learn something from this.
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...that's enough to annoy anyone! Use your proper name TWAT!
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Don't be a tool. You've been on enough real sets to know that what Christian Bale did was completely unprofessional. Ten times more unprofessional than what the DP was doing. This could have been taken care of in a meeting at wrap between shots. He bitched him out like he was a nobody, a PA or an extra. He's the head of the freekin' Camera Department. Behind the camera the Director, the DP and the AD are like the holy trinity of Production. Fuck that, McG should have rained Bale in especially since he then went on to tell the 1st AD to shut the fuck up. I don't care who you are. On most sets this would pretty much end with the actor being socially cast into the dog house for the rest of the production. Come on Knowles, I thought you were smarter than that. People give you crap for being a hopeless, suck up, know nothing, wannabee, sell out but I thought after almost 14 years of experience in this industry at some capacity you'd be a bit wiser than your take on this makes you come off.
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Not a single actor worth time or money acts like this. It doesn't matter if it was taken out of context - the fact that you had to post an explanation and beg for our forgiveness and understanding on behalf of Bale tells me that he did something wrong. He should apologise. End of. The DP apologised and so should Bale.
Also...Where the hell was McG? Apparently this is Bale's movie (that's the understanding I get from the clip). Thank god Cameron wasn't directing - there would have been riot vans on set! -
is to threaten violence on a co worker. youre supposed to be a team
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McG IS responsible, which again proves that Bale shouldn't have been the one who ripped the DP a new asshole.
Bale took it too far. End of story.
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Feb 03, 2009 3:19:24 PM CST
a very emotionally tough scene, where a very serious actor was d
by allenguindon
Primadonnas in a world of make believe for millions of dollars. You all need to gain some perspective.
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STILL looks like Val Kilmer.
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Feb 03, 2009 3:19:28 PM CST
"I know this because I happen to be somewhere where someone that
by mindgrapes
"I know this because I happen to be somewhere where someone that was there that day and for the shoot is."
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Feb 03, 2009 5:47:33 PM CST
If He Doesn't Like The Lighting Tweaks He Should Bale...
by read and shut up
Oh, will everybody lighten up? Hey-Zeus D Jay Sauce!
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to be a complete suckass.
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Threatening to attack the guy? What a fucking prick. Boo hoo, so the DP interrupted his chi. Deal with it and talk to the director about it. Use the multi-million dollar paycheck to buy some therapy/hookers/crack, but don't throw a temper tantrum like a spoilt little girl. Love McG's complete refusal to take any responsibility though...and now I want to see how emotionally intense this scene is.
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Bale is a great actor, no doubt about it, but no one should have an outburst like that for anything, especially when getting paid millions of dollars for a sci-fi movie. I don't care if the DP was beating off on Bryce during the scene, that's just an idiotic way to behave in front of dozens of people. But whatever, people do make mistakes, but let's not make excuses for them please. Bush was just tired and hot the day he lied about WMD's in Iraq, who cares if it killed hundreds of Americans, give him a break. This was all McG's fault anyway, it's his movie, his set, control your talent dude!
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Will everyone please just shut up?
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cui bono. Listening to the audio, this DP sounds like even under the verbal assault, for as we're being told behaving dickishly again and again, he is still muttering and talking shit back when he should really sit down and shut up. Bale wouldve shouted himself out in 20 seconds if the guy wasnt back there wheedling. Probably found the whole thing embarassing, especially if he is young. Seems to me it would be a man like that who would leak the recording out of spite. Considering how much damage to Bale's career and worldwide embarrassment it could cause, as payback for momentary embarrassment on set limited to a handful of people.Unlike many people here I don't believe violence is a 'no no'. Once someones been told repeatedly and isn't responding, then shouting starts, and once shouting starts the end point is a fist. The unreasonable one is he who causes provocation. You can all argue about professionalism and so forth. He could just have walked away. Maybe raising it at wrap would have been the more civilised method. I won't judge a man for losing his temper at an asshole.
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Tells you all you need to know about the guy defending these awful actions, sure acting is tough, I mean pretending to be someone else for millions of dollars must be emotionally draining and an awful life to have.Absolutely he should be allowed to loose it with whomever he likes, because they are just regular people remember.
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Christian Bale was/is wrong...there is no excuse. I don't care if the DP knocked over a damn camera, or danced through the scene naked. This was just plain wrong.I grew-up in a show business family, and my aunt, not a nice person BTW, could, and still can...out act Christian Bale, hands down...with no effort...so you can imagine her abilities if she puts effort to it? As actors go, she is among the elite in her ability--Bale is not. Technically, he gets the job done, but the guy is banal...and fails to provoke empathy...even when his characters are in pain...even in tears??? I have never seen my aunt act like this on stage, or anywhere else, at least, out in public; behind closed doors, is another matter...but Bale's on-set behavior certainly gives one pause in regard to the inccident in which he was accused of acting when he supposedly assailed his mother and sister. This tape, goes a long way in clearing their names, that being his relatives. All this time, I wanted to assume that they were just jealous blackmailing family members with an extortion scheme, but this tape has now exposed the truth...Bale appears to be suffering from bi-polar issues and needs serious help.No excuses, saying that somebody is just a misunderstood brilliant actor/artist is nothing but a red- herring. Like I have always said to my family, Hollywood is the greatest place a crazy person can hide out in the open, and accidentally be accused of being a great actor who's roguishishly eccentric in a charming sort of way, instead of being called on just what they really are, disturbed, freakish, and violent individuals, who need to be hospitalized. Bale was showing off for Brice, and it got out of hand. He wasn't interrupted while trying to disarm a nuclear bomb or trying to save a life or lives, in such a case, his anger would be undestandable, no...this was just a scene that got accidentally interrupted...and it happens all the time in Hollywood. No harm, no foul, you just do another take, that is all. If he had anything to say to this young man, he should have pulled him to the side, behind closed doors and calmly voiced his concerns...or challenged him to a fight, man to man. The fact that Bale did this in front of a crowd, and threatened violence, says that he is a coward who was just bluffing, afraid that the kid would kick his ass if not for all of those people standing around poised to prevent the fight from happening in the first place. Christian Bale, what a wimp???
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Must be challenging to do all that stuff for millions. I can respect that it takes talent, but that doesn't give you license to be a jerk. He can take my job any day - teaching public school. See what happens when he goes off on someone like that!
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No. Honestly. Not like that. Not in front of CO-WORKERS and fellow PROFESSIONALS. I've only worked with one a-hole like that in my 20 years in gov't contracting (a field crawling with Bale power-loving types, from what I've been told). It's just not cool to speak to another human being like that in a professional environment for a stupid mistake, even if it's the 12th time he's done it. Did it really require a 4-minute parade of demeaning F-bombs from The Big Movie Star on set? And, yeah, McG certainly deserves his share of the McBlame...
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Seriously. As long as he turns in a good performance, I don't give a flying f*ck whether he's a nice guy or not. Some of the world's most talented people are also some of the world's biggest jerks. But again, so what??
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What gives?
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He should have shut Bale the fuck up, or reigned his DP in to suit his actors demands. If this was an ongoing problem, that makes it even worse. If this was a James Cameron film, Bale wouldn't have been yelling like this, Cameron would have. And you would expect, not condone it per se, but he is the boss. Bale is just an actor. On a film like Terminator he's less important than the DP.
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Fuck a motherfucking cunt rat bastard who can't keep his fucking bullshit meddeling ass of of my goddamned frame! You fucking pussies, why don't you move your ass over to the mess tent and eat all my goddamned shrimp. If it wasn't for me you fucks would be on the second unit of a fucking Checkers ad shooting scenes of pissant bitches eating batshit fries. Son of a Bitch! Fuck all of you, I'm taking my jet back to Brighton and you can lick the sweat from my limey ballsack. Motherfuckers! (((throw glass to the ground, shattering it))) You call this fucking tea? Tastes more like you mom's cunt drippings! FUCK!
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You hear me McG? I am the voice coming from nothing, the opinion that counts. FUCK YOU.
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just wondering...
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i thought this talkback was locked?
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I'm an actor, nothing big like Bale or small like for that matter, but I've done my fair share of plays. I had a guy once while I was doing Arthur Miller's The Crucible. He was a complete fuck up. I'm in the middle of the climax of the whole play, puring my heart into my lines and the guy fucking smiles at me. I lost it similar to Bale. It's bullshit. The director can direct all he wants, but it takes more than good direction to make legitimate emotions come to the table, and when you have said emotions, you don't want them to go away. So when some fuck smiles at you, or in Bales case walks through your scene when he shouldn't, you get kinda unhappy.
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...and should not be tolerated anywhere. Especially from pretty boy prima donnas making tens of millions of dollars for a "temp" job.
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Feb 03, 2009 6:03:49 PM CST
Harry, love your site... but you have become a massive tool
by leafy mcplantsalot
I always laugh at these stories. With people's reactions being "Oh My God, that's not Christian Bale, he must have been having a really bad day - Wasn't this right after he was arrested for assaulting his mother, that must have really been weighing on him." etc.
Here's the terrible truth kids, the vast VAST majority of your favorite actors are monsters. Your favorite actor on your favorite TV show - they're a monster. Producer's, directors and even DP's can be monsters too - a film set is basically a dozen massive ego's fighting to prove their the most important person on set - actors are generally the worst though.
But it's not entirely their fault. Once an actor makes it big, or even semi big, everyone begins telling them that they are great. kids run up to them on the street just to tell them how awesome they are. Producers, agents, directors are always telling them how great they are in hopes of building a relationship and using them later. Most actors have a entourage, not the fun kind you see on TV's Entourage, but a group of five or six leeches who laugh at every joke they tell, explain to them how great they are in every scene they're in, and how nothing they do is ever wrong, all in hopes of continuing to shine in the afterglow of that actors celebrity. If you get surrounded by that for too long, you start to lose touch completely with reality and begin to feel you are the most important person in the universe as apposed to just a guy who's real good at pretending to be Batman. A guy who is really talented, but also lucky as shit to find a really good script, get a really good director and a really good DP doing everything they can to make that talented actor look even better.
It's funny, "you're in my line of sight" is basically a litmus test on set for how much of an ego maniacal asshole an actor is going to be.
Sure, there are times when it is justified for an actor to not want people in his eye line. if you are doing an intimate scene about the loss of your family, that takes concentration, focus - if a big burly grip is walking around with a hoagie and you can see them - yeah that could be distracting and take away from your performance. But the DP is the guy responsible for making sure the actors look as good as possible in every shot of film they are in. DP's don't normally adjust lights on their own, on a movie like terminator salvation they have about a hundred guys waiting to do that, so if the DP IS adjusting a light, you can bet that take aint gonna be used, if anything he is simply trying to correct the problem as quickly as possible so maybe some of that take can be salvaged.
Actors use the you're in my line of sight line most of the time just to show how important they are. I worked with one guy who would always show up late, usually hung over and wouldn't have his lines memorized. When he couldn't think of the next line he would freak out on anyone he could find and say they were in his line of sight and that's why he flubbed the line. Then run off to his trailer for an hour.
Bale has been acting since he was a kid, but only got real big recently. I have heard some really terrible things about him from the low level people on set and somebody must have really hated his guts to leak something like that. that being said, this is not a rare accurance, just a hollywood actor who never learned how to act like a decent human being. -
You just post important stuff like Script Girl's cleavage.
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It's good material for taking a shit.
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It's not deep at all. Sorry, but it's fucking make believe. If you can't get past a smile or some douche bag walking around on the set you're a fucking untalented lazy shit. That said, your first AD (who I notice is sucking bales cock in the press right now) is a useless piece of shit who can't do his job. He probably should have been yelling at him. Oh wait, he did.
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Somebody referred to acting performances being "amazing". Nope...amazing is that pilot landing the plane safely in the Hudson River. This is play acting...which all kids do...on a bigger scale, that's it. There is nothing amazing about acting. And there is no mystery here. Bale is a jerk, plain and simple. I don't care if the DP was in his sightline. Just refuse to go on until the DP gets out of the way. Bale just wanted to be the bully.
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Feb 03, 2009 6:06:29 PM CST
Honestly, who cares. He's a great actor. He didn't beat an inf
by dr sauch
I fly off the handle all the time. It happens. Chill the fuck out.
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give me fucking break. Don't make it into anything more difficullt then getting paid to pretend.
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You are so right, dude. Imagine if Uwe Boll blew up on set, or Paul Anderson. Harry would be loving it AND posting it!
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But not like that. And not in front of everyone.
I work in the movie world. Talk to me like that and I quit. -
People lose their temper everyday.. sure.. the women show will ask for a boycott of Bale while the fanboy will applaud his badassery.
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It kinda goes against your professed beliefs Harry. I know this is YOUR site, but WE also make some pretty noteworthy contributions. Don't silence us.
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Feb 03, 2009 6:10:23 PM CST
oh and I cant wait to see some of those Rush Hour...
by whinynegativebitch
...Outtakes where when Chris Tuckers phone rings during a take the DP storms onto set and calls him a worthless piece of shit mongoloid cunt for fucking up his shot.
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obviously the guy has been persecuted enough by the mainstream media. talented, good-looking, filthy rich celebrities just can't catch a break.
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And the DP still didn't quit.
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Baaaaaaaaah ha ha! Considering some of the shit that *has* been passed off here as "news," this statement has hilarious. I hope Christian Bale appreciates your attempts to metaphorically blow him.
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and talk about jizzing all over them. You are such a fucking hypocrite..
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You could hear him egging bale on by talking back to him in immature quips.
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If you have ever talked to "a family member" or anyone else like that, you should have your ass beat.
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HUGE NO-NO. I did it once while a friend filmed a college short. The actor saw me doing it and went frickin' ballistic, screaming stuff like, "Sh3t" and "F0cking hold the light steady" and "Are you an idiot!". Don't fuck with an actor's light. Ruins their mojo.
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A disgusting outburst from a so-called professional actor. If he had a issue with the DP, why didn't he take it up with McG?
And Harry, by defending Bale because of having to act out a tough scene - holy fuck! We all have pressure moments in our life and careers, but we don't explode like a supernova, not if we're mature adults anyway.
So it's not cool news, but you thought you'd have your say anyway? Good. Next time you're in town, I'll come and shout at you Bale-style, see how you like it! -
That's what you do to dicks like Bale who think that they're better and more important than you. You expose them for the assholes they are. I hope he's the one who leaked it. After seeing Harry's take, I'm curious, what is the next movie Christian Bale is shooting and when can we expect a set report? Also, does Bale taste salty or sweet?
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But me and you are over, digitally speaking.
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Don't make excuses for fucking amateurs like that. He's lucky to be breathing because if he had got in my sightline the fucker woulda been whacked.
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If you posted it people would slam you for turning into a fluff site. I'm actually surprised you're catching flak for that, I never expected to see that clip here.
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Feb 03, 2009 6:30:14 PM CST
Actually it IS news and should be posted on any movie websites
by darthbakpao
The fact is, Bale is still an arrogant prick, he pulled a diva on the set that day. I can understand if someone get mad over something, but seriously, do you have to keep yelling and trashing someone for more than 3 minutes, and physically treating the guy?
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Whiny Hollywood people are MONSTERS. Jesus, it's like the lot of you never saw a jerkoff before.
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Why is that such a hard question to get a concrete answer from? And Bale was totally in the right if the DP was being a fucking moron that wouldn't stop after repeatedly being told to.
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The DP comes from music videos and works at a Michael Bay pace. The director didn't create an atmosphere conducive to acting, priortizing how cool his film stock processing was.
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Kate Connor dies!!
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The best way to handle this kind of situation, unless the DP was endangering lives, or acting in a crazed fashion on-set, was to call a meeting and handle this issue with the executives, producers, and the director in attendance, and behind closed doors...and have it out there...even voices raised, and cursing, if need be, but Bale crossed the line here. I can understand...maybe a few sentences of verbal attack, but to continue...and to lash out, not only at the offending party, but anyone who attempted to interceed and calm the situation down, was his ultimate undoing. Bale made everyone on-set uncomfortable with his spiteful and threatening efforts, and made the working environment...a hostile one, the DP and others, have a legal...and rather meaty, claim against him, and others, should they wish to file it. He, Bale, should apologize...and move on, instead of staying silent on the issue, or using others to defend him...or even allowing others to defend him, with, or without, his permission, such as an actor who plays the father on "Everybody Hates Chris", now, a Bale co-worker on Terminator 4, who is attempting to do just that, defend Bale, as a nice guy. Trust me, from my experience in the business, you can say a person is nice all you want, because they have been nice to you, though you know that they are a snake, and you might excuse the nasty way they treat others, but if you are dealing with a snake, sooner or later, that snake who has bitten everyone else, will get around to biting, you...it is just a matter of time. This actor defending Bale, is shameless in his brown nosing!!!This story would have had a 24 cycle, maybe 48, if Bale had put out a two-line statement, apologizing for his actions. Lastly, this, Bale's actions, couldn't have impressed Ron Howard, or his daughter. Now...although Ron Howard wasn't on the set, you can be sure his daughter told him all about the incident.
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...it really wasn't neccessary. The Bale-Haters just went to the Terminator talkback. The guy is an major asshole, true, but now I would rather bash him over there. But, thanks anyway.
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Even when I'm asleep, or I will kick your fucking ass.
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http://www.idontlikeyouinthatway.com/2009/02/lunatic-remix-dance-party.html
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It's not the director's job to keep the crew in check on set. That's the job of the Assistant Director. As much as I'd like to blame McG, it's not his fault.
Everyone has had their ass chewed by someone on set at one point or another, it's part of the game. You just take it like a man and move on, or you don't learn from your mistake and you never set foot on a set again. The DP should have known better, Bale was spot on about the guy being an amateur. If you make it all the way to being a cinematographer and you don't have a basic grasp of set etiquette, you deserve to have your ass chewed out. While the camera is rolling is not the time to tweak your lighting, it's too damn late.
The fact is, actors throw tantrums. This one was warranted, though it was still a tantrum. Shit happens on set, people get their asses chewed out all the time. It's usually the DP's and AD's doing the ass chewing though. -
The AD called him a putz too. But it was hard to understand him because of all the Bale cock in his mouth.
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Then he'd frontpage the shit.
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I'm sure this is the last we'll hear of Christian Bale, right.
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the police didn't press charges. they brought in on grounds of "verbal assault". not physical.
and i said it yesterday, i want my brain surgeon to be emotionless, and my actors full of emotion and passion. and for those of you who think the actors aren't important in movies, then you deserve movies like kingdom of the crystal skull or hitman.
And I've been saying it for six months now. McG is a phony, passive aggressive, soul patch wearing fraud who went from producing Sugar Ray albums to trying to earn geek cred by using buzzwords he doesn't understand. He is the most cowardly fucking director I've ever heard - letting his AD take all the hits so he doesn't have to be the bad guy. Leaders are willing to be disliked to keep shit running, douchebag. -
should be ashamed of yourselves -- gravid with shame. I'm not even going to make a lengthy argument as to why because, deep down, you know why. It doesn't matter WHO he is.
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Feb 03, 2009 6:37:43 PM CST
"It isn't news. And it certainly isn't cool news"
by themasterofnonsense
But your wife's amateur music column is.
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I love Bale's work, but the Light Tweaker should've yelled back. Screw that. The only reason not too would've been that he was afraid of incurring Bale or McG's wrath and getting fired, in which case he shouldn't have been fucking around with the lights after being warned in the first place. A dick is only a dick as long as he gets away with it.
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Tweaks during takes. Big whoop. And Marv, the DP AND AD got chewed out by Bale in the clip. Because Bale is the boss of the set, because he is John Connor, saviour of the world. How many Terminators did BRUUUUUCCCEEEE or The Putz take out that day? None.
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It doesn't matter who who is with what...who?
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I'm jus saying..;)
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If you're reading this, good job coming out today and protecting your star with a definitive statement. Wuss. Thank fuck they're gonna kick you off of this franchise, go make your Evel Kenievel movie or another shitty tv show about rich shits in the OC. Right now the only thing I've seen you bring to the Terminator is some processing technique to your film stock and robot motorcycles.
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what a fuck up - he couldnt control his novice anal retentive dp enough to keep the shoot from imploding - its the directors fault, period
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Methamphetamine only in moderation for him, thank you very much!
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A. Bale should not rip this guy a new asshole (as someone above mentioned). I don’t care how emotional of scene it is, you do not publicly display bad blood on a set because that just creates disharmony. The DP might not be as important as Bale for the success of the movie, but he has something that Bale doesn’t have: a bunch of guys loyal to him. The Camera Assistants, the Grips and the Electrics will all back this guy up – Bale doesn’t get them work, this guy does. So now you have a set where you have Bale, your star, feuding with half of the crew. I would love to work on that set.
B. Same way, the fucking DP should not be tinkering with the lights during a scene. Talk about fucking unprofessional. I know many DPs and everyone of them knows that tinkering with lights while a scene is shooting is what low-budget filmmakers do, not big budget. This guy sounds like a dumbshit.
C. In the end the person who holds the most blame is McG. It is his set, his movie. He should have took both guys aside and made them work this out. If Bale does a hissy fit, he should take him aside and telling him he won’t stand for that behavior on his set. If the DP won’t stop tinkering with the lights, he should let him know that he better or else he’ll be fired. This problem is something that never should have happened on a real movie set (when is the last time you heard of a problem like this on a Scorsese, Spielberg or Rob Howard set?). You are the damn director, God on set, not a fucking milquetoast. If anyone is yelling on set it should be you (or even better your First AD).
D. Harry, don’t pick sides. Just say either you aren’t going to play or talk about the set episode because you don’t have enough facts in yet; just don’t try to rationalize it or take one persons side over another’s. That is just as unprofessional as they have been.
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I still think David O Russells were waaay better. Sorry Bale, the lack of video makes it way less cool. Also you should be more subtle. Pull a Brando, "I swallowed a fly. That is all I can think of today."
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IF you have cleared it with everyone, IF the shot calls for it, IF you've politely said to the actor "it would make our shot amazing and work better for your performance if we could have this gaffer here in your eyeline." And if the actor says that will mess with their performance they feel, you compromise. McG is letting his AD do all the heavy lifiting.
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... how does Mr. Bales dick taste?
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He is big enough in the business at this point, that he could have and should have, stood-up to Bale and told him to shut up!!! Given his position, if I was in McG's shoes...I certainly would have.
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Harry thinks it's "disgusting" to call Bale an asshole over this outburst, and then he goes on to basically say the DP is a moron? How is that not hypocritical?
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This is not a minor story, not when CNN's, as well as all the major news outlets have it on their sites. I would argue about the importance of the story and whether or not it deserves the play it is getting, but that is a moot point, because it is getting air time. But the most important point is your assertion via the headline, as to why AICN does not provide links. As others have documented, this site has gleefully posted links to far worse and embarrassing events than Bales rant. As the owner of the site, you have every right to publish or not publish what you deem fit, but you can not suddenly take a stance that is counter to what has historically and recently been this sites penchant for reporting salacious and titllating events, with, in some instances, juvenile glee, and expect to be patted on the back, with a 'well done Harry'.
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Feb 03, 2009 6:45:22 PM CST
LOL, NY Magazine makes Harry look like an even bigger tool
by mockingbird girl
http://tinyurl.com/bk6qra
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They are the timekeeper, the one that keeps the gears working in proper order. They are the ones who are responsible for the crew, they keep everyone on task so that the shots can get done in the time alloted. The Assistant Director does all the bullshit the Director doesn't have time to deal with. They make the shooting schedule, they pretty much determine how the film actually gets shot. When the AD is getting the crew to set up for the next shot, the Director is off in the trailer bullshitting with the talent about their character's motivations and shit like that. The AD is the one responsible for the crew though, and the DP should've known better. I am by no means part of any guilds or unions but I've been on enough sets in menial jobs to know that no one moves or talks when the cameras are rolling. It is very very basic set etiquette, one that even DP's and AD's need to follow. The only people that should be saying anything are the Director calling cut or maybe the cam op calling cut if there is a boom in the shot or some shit like that. Anyone who has set experience knows that it is the DP's fault for this shit, not Bales. He was just being an actor.
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None.
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I meant RON Howard. Damn guy I was on the phone with is named ROB. Fucking up my day.
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...to have an issue with the Dp's behaviour. Only Bale. Since the AD on this film is also one of the producers, and got the job because of Bale, you can see how it would be awkward for him to intervene. Especially after your meal ticket told you to shut the fuck up.
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bale is a class act and a good parent - as ugly as his rant sounds out of context, it was a normal reaction from a serious pro who was getting disrespected by 3 3rd stringers (the director and 2 other fuckups) - even i like to say id never react that way, but i wasnt there
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I agree with you to a point, but the thing is it is up to McG to establish control of the above the line talent. The First AD keeps all of the other people in line and makes sure the film keeps moving, but the Director has a relationship with the DP and the main actors. It is his job to keep them in line.
Once again, the DP shouldn't be tinkering with lights or be in an actors eyeline, very unprofessional, but it is up to McG to make sure they don't do that and if that can't follow those simple rules, it is up to McG to get rid of them.
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That's some pretty fucking COOL news! Pretty cool MOVIE news to be exact. Shame on you Harry, sounds to me like you were not on the ball with the story and now you are trying to make it sound like you are better then that sort of thing. When actuality you are just trying to stay in Bale's good graces in hopes for a shot at getting a meet and greet with him.
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Ok so he freaked out on a douche of a DP so what? Bale is an intense actor who totally immerses himself in a role. The problem is that the DP is probably one of McG's fucking butt-buddies from back in his music video making days and has no clue how to act on a big budget movie set around legit fucking actors... guy needs to get a clue.
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Fucking low life. He's almost as bad as those fucking maids and gardners. Why can't these fuckers learn their place in the food chain? Its a a goddamn Terminator movie. I know when I think Terminator I think B grade mumbling brit actors. Not cool explosions, FX, stunts and Arnie.
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thats the problem exactly - the director and ad should have had a problem with the dp - bale is right on this - his name will sell tickets for this turkey - he is coming off tdk - people have expectations - the pressure is on bale to carry this - why would anyone on this set do anything that might fuck up a shoot? - very unprofessional
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maybe not in Hollywood eh?
your "explanation" doesn't cut it Harry - Bale should be ACTOR enough to justify the massive paycheck he's getting and be able to do a simple INSERT, no matter if some guy is walking around in the background or not - shit, he should still be able to act his little heart out even there are people NAKED and doing UNNATURAL things to CIRCUS ANIMALS in the fucking background!
I've heard plenty of stories of actors in similar situations, where the person who is out of shot, or being shot over-the-shoulder for their eyeline in a scene is pulling all kinds of strange faces or winking at them or whatever - but a PROFESSIONAL will still pull a great fucking "emotional" scene out their fucking arse regardless...
as for the DP being a "tweaker" - well shit I'm not somewhere when someone who was somewhere on some day when something happened aso I haven't got the inside scoop, but Bale was going off at this guy for TWEAKING the lights during the shot - merely WALKING AROUND - and you know what?
maybe that "young" guy saw something Bale could not possibly have and McG obviously did not either?
you can put in the greatest fucking performance of your entire career but it doesn't mean DICK if YOU ARE IN DARKNESS...
ok I get that he might have been under stress that day and all that - which excuses the FIRST minute or so... but then he fucking UNDERMINES the director, REFUSING TO TAKE HIS DIRECTION and apparently decides HE is the director now and begins ISSUING FREAKIN ORDERS to the crew and his director - that right there is fucking INEXCUSABLE, Harry
and I haven't even got to the part where he threatens to beat his co-worker up!
if I was that DP, I would take this recording to my lawyer and see how much of a chunk of Bale's big fat paycheck I can make my own over that threat -
I like Bale's movies for the most part. I think he probably got a bit on an unfair shake here, but I don't condone speaking to other people the way he did. What ever happened to treating others with respect?
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The DP is a working professional. Shit films, sure, and I think his work is crap, but he's been about. You actually got it kind of backwards. The AD is one of Bales butt buddies. Hence the reason he can't run a fucking set properly.
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Look, I don't think you really understand what's going on in this clip. Bale's behavior in this clip is COMPLETELY and UTTERLY understandable.
The idiot DP goddamn walks in his line of sight on a live set. That shit doesn't even pass on the sets I work, and we run pretty goddamn loose sets (not to mention they're small, and with close to no budget -- this is happening on a huge Hollywood production, it's ridiculous).
What I really don't understand is why the AD or McG hasn't bitchslapped this idiot DP way earlier the OTHER TIMES he walked around on a live set.
Seriously, even on the smallest of sets you goddamn lock it down before a take. There isn't going to be any unannounced walking around on ANY SET, much less in SOMEONES LINE OF SIGHT. End of story. And that this is happening in a big movie like this is, to be honest, very strange.
... and when that rat DP talks back, my god, personally I want to slap him myself at about the same time Bale wants to. What an utter tool! If he doesn't understand that strolling around on a live set isn't acceptable, then he should go back to taking family photos. -
You didn't give Mel Gibson the same pass for his personal fuckups and you bring up other actor's politics, etc. when you don't agree with them. It's your page so you can publish what you want but your excuse is hypocritical. Bale is a great actor but his vocabulary could use a little tweaking.
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how most of you assholes had your lips puckered around Bales sphincter since he became a geek idol and now all of a sudden he's a prick for yelling at a dude who clearly wasn't doing his job.
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I think McG made the right choice by staying out of it. If he sided with his DP he risks having his main talent walk off set. Hell, Bale probably has the clout to get McG fired. If he sided with Bale it would undermine the relationship he has with his DP. It shouldn't be McG's problem that his DP fucked up on set. The DP fucked up and he paid for it in the form of public humiliation, something that goes on all the time on set. The only reason it's a big deal is because it's Christian Bale that did it. I've gotten my ass chewed on set and I've seen others get their asses chewed and Bale's chewing of ass was pretty standard. I've heard much much worse on set, it really shouldn't be that big of a deal. I think it looks worse to the average joe that has no idea what goes on behind the scenes, but working in the industry it's a high-stress environment where people get called out on their mistakes and there are consequences for them.
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Actually, nobody gives a fuck about Bale. It's a Terminator movie. Bale could be in it, he could not be in it. No one cares, just like No one shows up for his non Batman movies. He's not a fucking super duper established actor. He's turned in one really great performance so far. When someone like Brando or Norton pulls shit like this, you cut them slack since the results tend to be great. Bale on the other hand isn't worth it. Especially when he obviously contributes to the problem. Why isn't he yelling at the AD for running such a shitty set? Oh, thats right, because the guy is a friend. If this was a repeated occurance, maybe its because McG, who knows exactly what this DP works like, wants. He's the director, yell at him. Oh, thats right, your too much of a pussy. It's like a douchebag pissed at his boss taking it out on his secretary.
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If Bale pulled this shit at a regular job, he'd be fired or the schmuck he berated would sue his ass (if he was the boss) or his employer for allowing it to happen.
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I have worked on set many times (now I am in post-production sitting on my fat ass) and I understand what you are saying, My point is that A) as much as this guy is annoying the fuck out of you Bale, you can't start an arguing match because it will create turmoil on the set (something a pro like Bale knows) and B) that the blame falls squarely on McG and the producers. If this guy is constantly annoying Bale then they should have done something about it now, and if Bale is completely in the wrong about this they should step in immediately. Talk about passive leaders (reminds me of Bush on 9-11 with those kids reading a book).
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http://tinyurl.com/avhf9z
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The producer is at the beginning of the rant, being told to shut up.
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Feb 03, 2009 7:02:06 PM CST
CB still was nice enough to call the DP a nice guy....
by darfurontherocks
That DP must be a fracking douche of epic proportions.
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Because thats not how it works on all movies. Especially if its a giant ass action movie shooting at a pace. Just picking up an issue of AC will enlighten you to that fact. This is apparently how this DP works. This is how the director, the ultimate voice on the set, wants it to work. Bale should do as he's told, or direct his own damn films.
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Bale had all the right to rip this guy to pieces. I'm sure bale was nice to him the first time he did it but if he kept on doing it over and over, he deserved to be blasted on. For all we know, MCG probably did told this guy to get his shit together but he probably kept on doing it. I hope that guy doesn't get hired ever again, that idiot.
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Dude is just trying to impress Bryce Dallas Howard. Hands down the most plausible, believable answer. Maybe it's to get a performance or reaction out of her that he wasn't getting, maybe he just wants to get on that, but that's the easiest thing about this for me to believe.Either that or Christian Bale is just another megastar who takes himself and his 'work' far too seriously, which is also pretty fucking easy to believe. "Think of him as one of us," asks Harry. L O Fuckin L.
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My only complaint with you assessment is now McG has displayed no control or power on his own set. Someone has a problem with a scene, they might as well as go to Bale because he seems to be the one in command. As for not confronting the DP, you can easily take the two aside and discuss it like professionals. I have noticed the times that I have been on set the least experienced and professional Directors are the ones with the most anarchy and disruptions on their sets. Like I mentioned earlier, you don't see trouble like this on established, confident directors sets (even Chris Nolan has control of his set, and he is about the same age as McG).
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Actually Nidia, if you've worked in retail...or construction...or a bar...or a hospital...or a restraunt...Um, pretty much anywhere, this behaviour is an everyday occurance.
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For all we know, McG told the Dp to tweak the lights. Especially if its happening time and time again it would seem clear that the only one who had an issue with it was Bale.
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And all that rant is probably because he wasn‘t oscarnominated. "Goddam im working on my goldboy again and you keep messing up!!!"
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Because that's the only reason you're not posting this and your "reasoning" above smells like exactly that.
AICN has always posted creative difference stories on the sets of numerous movies since you began. In the beginning, you were never worried about "upsetting" people by a particular news story.
Yet, right here. You're trying to say you're too classy for this one?
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Seems more likely someone is getting paid off by the studio to write this whole story off.
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This wasn't posted because it's too new. There will be a link to some AP news report up tomorrow.
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http://tinyurl.com/23v6pw
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I'd have done the same thing. You get a crew member that acts like an amateur, and a very dense one at that. You as an actor prepare yourself and attempt to provide the best performance and some moron keeps ruining your efforts. No one should be shocked by Bale's reaction, it was proportionate and the lighting drone deserved to be called out.
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He thinks Bale says "Fuck" way too m much.
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You could have given the whole Bale tirade some context and posted in that style.
The week that this rant took place from Bale was the same week that The Dark Knight was coming into theaters. And the same week that he was charged with assaulting his sister and mother. Charges that were later dropped.
But you could have posted this AND given the above context in the article.
That would have made your excuses for some poor set behavior at least somewhat believable.
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I don't care about his tirade. What I do care about is that it's turning into another outlet for everyone to bash McG and that's not fair. It's the DPs fault. McG shouldn't have to babysit a 12 year professional. I really think this sucks for him because I really believe he is setting out to make a film to impress the FANS and I hope he succeeds beyond any expectations I have set for this movie. Sure he made some pretty mediocre films but I think he believes that this is his chance. He doesn't need shit like this to happen, and no one should blame him for his DPs mistake and for Bale freaking the fuck out like that. But I do agree that it is no ones buisness and this should not have been made public. Bale is too fucking cool for this. It's only funny when David O'Russell does it. Fuck Lily Tomlin!!
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Feb 03, 2009 7:15:22 PM CST
Despite the fact that I like Christian Bale....
by pissed off and bitter
I think it was with the MOST unprofessional thing I've ever heard on a movie set ever. Sorry, being a method actor is not an excuse. One should be able to contain their emotions no matter what and the fact is Bale berated the fucking guy. Yeah I know that you don't mess with the lighting nor get into an actor's eyeline while he's doing the scene as it breaks concentration but fuck man, you don't go off on the guy in what I would describe as being a lawsuit-worthy piece of audio.
I've never said anything like that to anyone's face and if someone disrespected me like that to my face you better fucking believe I'll fuck you up, movie star or no movie star, trained or not trained.
Again, the DP shouldn't have been in the background but shit, you don't tear the guy a new asshole for it and try to get him fired. No one's perfect. Have I lost respect for Bale? I'm not sure. Maybe a bit perhaps. Will I see T4? Fuckin' A!!! -
Feb 03, 2009 7:15:46 PM CST
WhinyNegativeBitch, Film set is actually like the army...
by continentalop
And yes, in the army you are yelled at (especially when going through basic training, I know I was) but after that you are not yelled at as much, You are ordered around by superiors, yes, but they only yell at you in extreme circumstances.
And people of similar rank never yell at each other. The DP and Bale are above the line talent, basically officers. Officers might debate, but not yell at each other. If they did it would give the impression to the enlisted men that they had no idea what they are doing and make them lose confidence. Same with on a film set.
And once again the fault lies with the commanding officer, McG. It is his job to establish discipline on his set. Once again it is like the army; if the men under you are constantly breaking rules and acting disruptive, it is your fault for not reeling them in or establishing disciple, or because they don’t respect you. McG is the Lt. Colonel Henry Blake of directors, the only problem is he doesn't have Radar to help him.
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It sounds like Alec Baldwin talking to his daughter.
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INTERNET WHITE KNIGHTS ASSEMBLE!
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The DP's a fuck-up, Bale's an egomaniacal prick and McG and his AD are pussies for letting this disgrace go on for 4 minutes. The only lesson here is that Hollywood is full of despicable fucks. Face the hard truth: Paul Newman was the last decent human being left in that shitpool of an industry. The age of admirable actors died with him.
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Let the director handle it. Bale can be pissed, but tha rant was absurd. I don't care how "emotional" the scene was. Actors love to pretend that what they do is deep and important. The "I was in character" excuse is weak as well. I've acted myself. You're repeating lines that someone ELSE wrote. It's not as important as a scientist in a lab splitting the Atom or a doctor performing surgery. I like Bale, but his diva like outburst is fucking silly.
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should have read "Bale was NOT going off at this guy for TWEAKING the lights during the shot - merely WALKING AROUND"
and yes I have been on plenty of film sets in my time, including my OWN films as producer (yes I'm THAT kind of producer) so - again, I'm only going off what I've heard with my own ears here, not what some guy who knows some guy tells me, but Bale's issue was NOT about him playing with the lights, it was about him WALKING AROUND...
like I said above, he should earn his friggin paycheck and DEAL WITH THAT SHIT - the man was not walking over to get a coffee or have a chat about the weather, he saw a PROBLEM with the lights and was INVESTIGATING - WHO do you suppose would be in the shit if it was not discovered until the RUSHES come in that Bale did the whole thing IN DARKNESS or with the light just hitting the top of his head instead of his face?
you cannot trust the video monitor when it comes to that kind of thing because video does not have the same light-sensitivity as film so McG could well have not seen it on his screen - and NEITHER CAN THE ACTOR - which is why you TRUST your DP when he says he sees a PROBLEM with the friggin lights!
and again, you should be able to do your scene while looking at performing fucking monkeys - what the fuck kind of actor are you if you can't even handle some guy WALKING AROUND?? -
Fuck carrots
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I heard Clint Eastwood is pretty cool to work with.
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Thanks for using your vast power for good! I agree wholeheartedly with the airing-other-peoples' -privacy thing. Thank you, Harry. You're a good person. Have fun in Germany!!!!!
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...would have hired one of the locals to assassinate the DP. That's what he did to Herzog on the set of Fitzcarraldo. The lunacy of Kinski can put anything in perspective.
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But the "serious actor doing serious work" argument doesn't fly. I don't give a fuck if you were acting out the final scene of Hamlet with a knife in your gut and Shakespeare's corpse sitting in the wings. There's no excuse for talking to a co-worker like that. Plus...it's TERMINATOR!! What, he was in the middle of the "Chill out, dickwad" scene? Did he have to find his motivation to say "Talk to the hand" for the 10th time? Have a Coke and a smile, Bale. It's not Beckett, m'man. Plus, I don't care if Bale did tell the DP 100 times to not fuck with the lights. Then make it 101, man. Or better yet, get your fucking director to do HIS job and make sure the set is running tightly so slip-ups like this don't happen. Did you hear what a backpedaling DOUCHE McG sounds like? "I didn't see it!" You didn't see it, McGinty? Were you too busy lubing your meat to a Peter Facinelli headshot? How the FUCK does the director of a $100 million franchise movie not know what his DP is doing when you're rolling? In my opinion, everyone's at fault here. Bale for being a hotheaded mental patient with rage issues, Hurlbut for being a dummy and McG for being a Hollywood ass who thinks that distressed jeans and a tattered microbrew baseball cap are all you need to make it in movies. That said, I'll still probably go see this fucker, which, in the end, means I'm the biggest ass of all.
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...it was an offer by one of the natives to kill Kinski, not Herzog. And Herzog turned him down. So everything was hunky dory on that set.
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I'd recognize you anywhere!!!
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You guys go on at great length about your personal lives, yet we all have to suffer that. How is Bale's freak-out NOT news-worthy by comparison? Pfft.
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I keep hearing from all these experts about film set etiquette. A film set is not like the Army. It's a fucking film set. If the DP fucks up a scene where all Bale has to do is spit out some lines, big whoop. If the DP fucks up a scene involving massive amounts of explosions and FX, then chew him out. If Bale is too shit to act around distractions, maybe its the DP who should be yealling at him.
Lets see, this particular DP, who according to people who have worked with him is a constant light tweaker, has worked with REAL actors like Strathairn, bigger stars like Mcconaughey, and bigger ego maniacs like Costner, without complaint, or at least, still getting hired for gigs. This is his SECOND film with McG, so McG knew exactly what he was getting. It seems Bale is a fucking prima donna who needs to be handled with kid gloves. What did he expect signing on to Terminator 4? No one gives a fuck about his blubbering between action scenes. -
Keep your crew on a leash at all times please...
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Um, McG brought this DP on knowing how he works. So yeah, if its true that hes unprofessional or a bad DP, then it IS his fault. Thing is, I don't think McG has an issue with the DP. I think Bale does, and Bale alone. Which is why it probably happened repeatedly.
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why does Bale have to go off on the stupid DP and set him straight? Where the F is McG at? Shouldn't he be in control of the set? I think Bale's the only pro on this movie. He's got the most experience. Remember he worked with Speilberg when he was 10.
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BINGO! An A-list actor going berzerk on the set isn't cool news but Harry getting laser eye surgery is sooo cool.
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That's strike one.
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Feb 03, 2009 7:31:54 PM CST
What the world needs now is Bale and Oliver Stone...
by whinynegativebitch
...To work together. Lets see how Bale deals with a random shotgun blast mid take.
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Feb 03, 2009 7:32:21 PM CST
You don't know what happened on set unless you were there.
by amy chasing
You can make what you will from the audio (just google for it).
As for decent actors to work with, people have mentioned Paul Newman and Clint Eastwood - has anyone worked with Hugh Jackman? Viggo Mortensen? Kate Winslet? Cate Blanchett? I haven't but they come across as pretty down to earth. -
Except a weekly dose of tits.
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It also means Double Penetration, and Bale is certainly getting his fair share of both right now.
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what a princess
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now THAT'S news!
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"McG: Fair enough!"
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...I've been tweaking them all morning. Anyway, I'm gonna go and stroll around over here for awhile.
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For real! people, get a grip. Harry's story is ridiculous! What a stupid excuse. Ohhh!!! Emotional scene? In Termination Salvation, directed by McG? We will get to see the movie and I doubt we will have a SO emotional moment that could justify Bale's lame ass atittude. And what a coincidence, someone who was JUST on THAT SCENE gets to talk with Harry? Right now? When the talk over the web is that Bale is an ass? Awwww!!! Coincidences uh? This site became a joke. Probably afraid won't get excluvies on TS and Watchmen. what a fucking joke...
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It's like some Manchurian Candidate code word people use to flip Bales switch. I hope some entertainment reporter/whore gives it a try on the press junket. Fuck that would be funny.
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So many people pretending to be offended at this. I love to give Harry a hard time as much as anyone but I think this is one of the instances where he is on the side of being correct. Unless you actually witnessed the event in question, your opinion doesn't really mean dick. Plus as others have suggested, there are much more important things to worry about than big bad mean movie star making crew members cry.
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Yes a film set isn't the Army, but it is like the Army in how it functions. And the bigger a movie, the better to have it function like a military outfit. That is why they have separate crews with well-defined jobs and tasks - just like the Army (and like the Army, a film crew travels on its stomach).
But my argument was in defense of Bale, it was to point out that discipline and order has to be maintained on a Hollywood movie set for it to work properly. Unlike other jobs, a movie set as only an X number of days (the duration of the shoot) to get the material it needs to make a movie. Because of that you can’t afford waste, inefficiency and incompetence to creep in because they all rob you of usable footage. . McG obviously doesn’t have any control of his set; he might be a nice guy but no one respects him as a director, apparently even himself.
I will say one thing in defense of Bale. Yes, this isn’t Hamlet but instead just T4, but at least he is such a hard worker that even for schlock like this he wants to put forth his best work. His temper tantrum might have been a bad idea, but I for one admire his drive to put forth his best work no matter what type of movie it is.
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Then there would be no controversy because no one could understand him- just like the movie.
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While we haven't heard of this director having trouble with actors before, we also haven't heard many stories of Bale having trouble of set before. So once again, this could be just a fluke occurrence.
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What a fucking apathetic dumbsnatch. He should be in complete control, what we get "i didnt see anything" is just...... mesmerizing. He might as well be serving craft services, but even then he might miss a piece of poop in the coffee thermos.
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...and this asshole spilled his coffee in Dr. Bale's test tube, I'd be pissed too if I was him.No wait, he's pretending to be a soldier in a movie about time traveling robots.Give me a break Harry, it's a dick move by Bale. Maybe if you could dislodge his cock from your mouth for a second you can see that."I know this because I happen to be somewhere where someone that was there that day and for the shoot is." - FUCKING LOL.
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Yeah, I know it happens in retail, etc. (really, all over the place) but if you can document it you can sue. Problem is most people don't want to rock the boat.
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...It was Bales retarded outburts that brought the set to a standstill for 4 minutes, created friction and tension and fucked a scene. Like I said, McG is happy with the way this guy works. But wasn't this always going to be an odd match? McG, who is capable of making diverting goofy fluff, working with Bale who seems to take everything extremely serious. I mean, wouldn't the producers have seen shit like this coming from a mile off? It's like asking Daniel Day Lewis to work with Brett Ratner.
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and play her the Bale Rant. Because what good are grandparents if not to tweak them from time to time?
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I have to agree with Bfiasco and Liberty Valance, whatever the situation is that type of reaction is unnecessary in the workplace or otherwise. I have worked with some real douches in my time, but I would never have gone off like that (I may have called them a cunt under my breath though...) Now I really enjoy Bale's work and I can understand that he was frustrated and angry, but I can't believe that he was that angry just because a DP was in his line of sight in a "emotional" scene and that he fiddled with his lights during a shoot. Maybe he was angry about something else and this was the trigger that set him off, or perhaps it was the scene that put him in a very intense place and he lost it momentarily... who know and who cares - you just don't need react like that to get your point across. Look, he is an actor in movie, he is not really saving the world, curing cancer or anything of real importance - He is starring in the 4th Terminator movie. No need to get so worked up. That said because of this I am sure that no DP will ever touch lights or move a muscle during a shoot again. Everyone makes mistakes, lets move on.
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Thats real professional
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took his gun out and said Kinski should finish the movie or he'll shoot him (Aquirre i guess). aww the good ole times...
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...Work with a huge cast of top shelf actors and A list material he completely and utterly fucked it up. So perhaps Bale is pissed that hes trapped with C list creative people and knows what kind of product he's gonna end up with. We know the writers on board have worked with Bale before and done good work. Maybe he wasn't expecting such dodgy shit.
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...someone has to buy him a copy of "How to Win Friends and Influence People." He obviously never has read it.
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..."You're a nice guy. BUT I WILL FUCKING RAPE YOUR CHILDREN YOU PIECE OF SHIT CUNT!" Help you cultivate friendships while also getting your point across.
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being that jerk while doing REAL emotional scenes and not fake emotional bling-blings on action movies? Uh, nope! If Bale was having a bad day, even so, he had no right to act like that. He is just a brat who now considers himself bigger than the universe because of TDK. Let Terminator 3 suck and people - aside AICN gushers - taking a look at his 'voice' and lack of any REAL talent that's not the Christian Bale face school of acting, then maybe things change. Anyway, this AICN "defense" was the most lame ass piece of ass licking I ever saw on a movie site. period.
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the number anymore. Emotional scene... yep! Sure. let's all get angry and fuck with everyone on sets.
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By all accounts he is an extremely humble, gentle man. People that know him are freaked out that he can do roles like "Bill the Butcher". They have no idea where it comes from.
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HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA funny!
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i love the pricks on here that tell us how it really is on movie sets... im sure the T4 production is a touch more expansive than the set you created to shoot your piece of shit mini dv movie..which starred you and 4 of your mates. -
Winslet was begging for a bitch choke the entire movie and Bale woulda given her one too. Leo's too much of a sweetheart to pull off the bad guy.
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I think bale blew up because he couldn't cry as well as Kirk Lazarus in his pg-13 Mcg Terminator movie.
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Should I know what you are talking about?
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I've seen worse freak-outs on-set. I was working boom with a tape-op who, despite having a $15k JL Cooper w/compression, kept cutting because the actress had to whisper a line then start screaming (it was a horror movie). After the 3rd take, the actress was emotionally spent and had to retire to her trailer to recouperate. The director flipped on the tape-op much worse than Bale did to the DP. Though we did finish the shoot without incident (in the sound dept. anyways), I haven't heard of that tape-op since (granted I'm in post now too, so I'm not on-set much anymore).
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Where Dan Akroyd is Dick Nixon and explaining to his daughter and son-in-law that everything on the Nixon tapes was just him and John Dean (Buck Henry) screwing around, playing to the microphone.
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Continentalop: I agree, the problem was that it hadn't been caught earlier. Yes, this is a clip of someone loosing his temper (and that's never any fun, really), but the final responsibility is not on the actor. He had good reason to loose his temper, by the sound of it.
WhinyNegativeBitch: Well, to be fair, the director that wants the DP to walk in the line of sight of an actor is an idiot. Listen to the clip, McG didn't even see that the DP was doing it. It's not like it was a creative choice, it was just the DP not using his brain (multiple times), while the people who should have been addressing the issue wasn't paying attention (yes, I'm looking at you, McG). You simply can't work in a way that makes acting for one of the actors impossible. That isn't a creative choice you have. It's as simple as that.
Sure, Bale blew up, I'm not debating that. And I'm not saying it hadn't been better if he hadn't yelled, but if you can't take people yelling, don't get into the movie business. People do loose their temper once in a while (to put it mildly), and yelling when the set isn't in working condition is the norm. That's just the way it is.
Maniaq: What you do if you see something to tweak in the lights? You wait until the shot is over and do another take (if you have to). What you certainly don't do is walk right in the line of sight of one of the actors. Especially when it has already been expressed that the actor minds it while in character. There isn't any excuse for that. -
Reposting here now this talkback has been opened back up
Noone seems to know or is unwilling to say?Was it leaked because Bale refused/was unable to payup to keep it all quiet?Not defending the guys actions but an incident that according to the Dp has already been forgotten about months ago resurfacing in this manner...something just isnt right.Someone (rival studio maybe?) has some big balls to have done this, dick move or not. -
That the audio was clipping from the scream, which is why the tape-op had to cut.Aren't I the greatest storyteller, ever?~dork~
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Whoever put that together is a freaking genius. Well done.
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This is just info i randomly heard today, but the audio was leaked because it had been sent to the insurance bonding company as evidence in case Bale actually walked off the movie. I'm guessing someone from the bond company leaked it.
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Excuses are just that...fucking excuses. I bet Tom Hanks wouldn't have gone ape-shit if someone did some light tinkering. He would quietly walk off the set, let the director intervene, and then return to the set for another take. Now that's calm under fire.
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"And how was it? I hope it was fucking good for you Harry, because it's fucking useless now!!!"
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terminator movies are no longer automatic BO gold - the last one proved this - bale's attachment will do nothing but help this movie - its a big reason im interested in seeing it - i was shocked to hear he was even doing it - especially considering the director
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I think Bale is getting a bad rap. Why are people making a big deal about this?
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that leaked this. Wuss move.
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Hasn't Bale heard of doing multiple scenes? So one scene has a mistake on it. That's why you do multiple takes.
Imagine if the camera operators were as big divas as the actors and as soon as they flubbed lines started screaming and ranting the same way Bale did. Don't those dumb acors realize that operating a camera requires extreme concentration. Who are thes e dumb actors to break the cameramans concentration with their mistakes.
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on youtube - it makes bale's look downright gentlemenly
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That is the most interesting question in this. There's a lot to lose for 2 major studios if Bale's popularity declines. I am surprised this saw the light of day. Somebody is playing something here. As for Bale... I don't blame him for losing his cool under pressure... everyone loses their cool... especially when there's half a billion on the line... nobody who has ever achieved anything has kept their cool thru it all... nobody... only idiots who haven't done a thing think you don't lose your cool and yell once in a while... the pressure builds and sometimes it comes out in the wrong way... Bale most certainly apologized later... I am a producer and I don't know an artist who hasn't lost their shit at one time or another... that just comes with the game.... this isn't flipping burgers or accounting... it's risk venture art and it isn't for the weak of heart.
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Feb 03, 2009 8:15:45 PM CST
Harry Knowles Is Firmly 'Team Bale,' Former Assistant 'Team Peop
by ellisstephens
Unlike Harry knowing a friend of a friend's cousin's, girlfriends, grandfathers step sister's husband who just happened to be on set for the tantrum.Defamer.com has word from Bale's old assistant.
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it sounds to me like harry did indeed give behind the scenes info on what was (really) going on - but youd rather believe what you see & here on gossip tv shows - you sound like the asshole
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Your movie shoot is like an Army idea is bollocks on every single level. They have absolutely nothing in common.
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how many inept amateurs do you work with - the kind that make your job harder to perform
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http://tinyurl.com/b5s5vk
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Someone ask him about Bill Murray during the Terminator Salvation junket. If WB even lets him out.
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And be serious now. I mean it. Who in here is going to see this movie? I know I am, even if all the movie is is Bale whining and crying about his sight line. I should try that at work sometime and see what happens..
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Fuck carrots
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this is probably the worst place to post this since everyone here is pissed but I need to.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=SgDB6Ac2rSc&feature=channel_page
After all the hoopla about fucking transformers and the gi Joe trailer -
bad link
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are some of the funniest AICN talkbacks since the "I ran into Christian Bale at the airport" ones.
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... with a phone - i can almost guarantee he was provoked - i saw him about 9 years ago (after gladiator was a hit) in tower video in nyc shopping by himself - people were approaching him and he was totally cool - i even said hi to him - seemed like a nice regular guy - no star pretense
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Feb 03, 2009 8:28:06 PM CST
The AD should've handled the situation before it came to this.
by flickchick85
OBVIOUSLY, this wasn't the first time, so while yes, Bale's language was certainly inappropriate, he's not really in the wrong. My cinematography professor, who was a pro DP in the business ever since the "Taxi" days, would have TOTALLY sided with Bale in this situation. He always drilled it into our heads - you mess up once, shame on you, mess up twice, you're fired. Clearly, Bale must've addressed this situation before, and it's the AD's job to relay Bale's concerns to the DP and make sure it doesn't happen again, b/c YES, the lead actor trumps the DP in a project this big. McG should've obviously backed up his AD if the DP took it this far. But the DP REGULARLY interrupting a performance, not because something's wrong with the shot, but because he just likes to constantly be walking around the actors and adjusting the lights during a scene is just plain inexcusable. If Emmanuel Lubezki does it then you can bet he clears it with the right people first. And this guy had the balls to fight back and refuse to change his ways? Yeah, he's lucky he got to stick around after that. The only aspect where Bale is to blame here is the language, which is regrettable, but hey, this is Hollywood after all.
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my fragile little mind!
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Still, Bale is a cry baby prima donna. He should have just taken his pants off like Brando, or firebombed the DP's house like Kinski. Except Bale will never deliver a performance as good as either of those two.
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I guess you haven't talked to many people in the film profession. It is one of the oldest analogies around, hence expressions like "a film crew is like an army, they travel on their stomachs"
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I'd imagine intense actors like Bale are prone to this sort of thing. You guys that are prone to overreacting to people that overreact are kinda ridiculous yourselves. But, hey, that's emotions for you -- can't all be perfectly placid sheople.
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Feb 03, 2009 8:32:37 PM CST
Oh, and Bale NEVER "beat" his mother and sister, people.
by flickchick85
He was only arrested for "verbal assault" to begin with, so a "beating" was never even in question. And the BS charges were dropped anyway. Wow, some folks just love to eat up the bullshit the media likes to feed you.
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Feb 03, 2009 8:34:37 PM CST
If it was Rothman or Peters AICN would post it in a heartbeat
by juansanchez
Way to be a hypocrite, Harry.
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Bale acted like a complete asshat. Short of kidnapping his daughter, and/or taking a shit in his coffee, there's nothing the DP could have possibly done to warrant that kind of shitty behavior. Bale has no place what so ever criticizing anyone else's professionalism after that little performance. Now, should the DP have been tinkering with the lights? Probably not. And if he'd been told before not to do it, fine. Bale should have brought the issue to McG's attention, and McG should have handled it. McG needs to man up and take control of his set. But let's not pretend this kind of behavior is EVER ok in a professional setting, even if it’s behind closed doors and a part of his “private life”. That’s just pathetic ass kissing. Hell, a short outburst would have been understandable. I've worked under extreme pressure when emotions are running high. I understand what it's like to explode at someone, and to have someone explode at me. We're all human. But Bale marched on with this tirade for several minutes, cursing at the DP, his director, and the assistant director for minutes on end. There isn’t much ambiguity here. It's unacceptable, and unprofessional. Being famous and being good at what you do doesn’t except anyone from ethical behavior. I think Bale is a fantastic actor. But he deserves any shit he's getting for this. My hope is that he'll come out the other side a better person for it, and be more mindful of his actions in the future.
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you werent there - and youll never have the success or failure of a summer tent pole movie sitting on your shoulders - and you can tell me with a straight face you never talked like that to a coworker, friend or family member? - i have - im not proud of it, but im human - are you a professional in a field that depends heavily on your job performance? - bale shows up on time prepared and ready to work into the night - he is dedicated to making any movie hes in a success - this was just another gig for the dp - honestly, adjusting the lights during a scene in the stars eye line? - was the dp testing bale's resolve? - thats community college film class work ethic - but again, i blame the director
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Except he didn't mess up. I've read on various sites now that the DP tweaks and wanders during takes all the time. McG knew this when he brough him onboard. He's been warned several times, and the director doesn't tell him to stop. The AD doesn't tell him to stop. It's only in Bales eyes that he screwed up. Also, why was someone passing the audio on for insuranc purposes. It sounds like more than just the DP had issues with Bale. Not to mention people who have actually worked with him, not faceless friends of friends of a guy who knows a guy who heard about it have said he's an angry jerk with a short fuse. I actually think its unfair how everyone is jumping on the DP's back based on the word of an internet gossip columnist.
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You have a story about how the star actor on a big budget Hollywood movie is not getting along with an important crew member. It shows that the star is upset, maybe even dissatisfied with the film and it could be a troubled set. That is movie news.
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If you are a smart producer you walk to your audio guys after a stunt like Bale pulled and ask for a copy. What happened after that... who knows.
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kiss the seamstress, sweep the stage.
I'd like to get behind Batman, I would, but you don't shit on the people who make you look good - even if they are screw ups. He's a bigger star, he should be a bigger man.
And none of this "doing serious work," a real "soulful" moment malarcky. Ask anyone at a real job right now who's worried every day they are going to walk into work to find out their company's making lay-offs. Nothing Bale's doing can come close to the stress of his audience. That tirade just made we want to think twice about giving him my money. -
told the grip to punch the director in the face that was an exaggeration? Damn i was hoping that was based on a real incident. Movies sets are a lot tamer than i expected. After hearing all the Apocalypse Now set rumors i guess i had a warped view of how things worked.
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First off, who cares if Bale was right or the Dp was right the real issue is this site.Aintitcool.com more like Aintsocool.com Seriously what happened to you Harry?
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I know this has been said before, but this website is his website. Talkbacks are just how we get involved, and I feel that they are a privilege. I really hope that Harry doesn't take any of these attack personally.
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Feb 03, 2009 8:43:37 PM CST
This is why Christian Bale is my favorite actor of this decade..
by mrhazard
Cause he actually gives a damn about the movies he makes and the performances he gives (even for a TERMINATOR sequel)... I actually respect him MORE as an actor now because of this story than I did before... Cant wait to see T4, Batman 3, and whatever other movies the guys got lined up... I would see Marley and Me 2 if he was in it...
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You gotta leave him alone!!!!!!!! WHAAAAA WHAAAAAA BOO HOO!! HAHAHAHA......And Harry saying its ok because like us regular people sometimes he yells too don't ya know...he's just like us..only richer and well...richer. And yeah I yell at shit too but that was a little out there...and Terminator?...lol umm its not Oscar bait, I think it shows the days of men like Pacino, DeNiro and such are fading. Those are fuckin' actors, they were intense and worked on great shit....oh and they were smart enough to realize that a movie is a team game....otherwise Mr. Bale is just another douche playing make believe....but he is a guy reading a writer's lines, following a directors direction, and being captured on film by a DP. And Harry is it ok to verbally abuse and threaten another human being because they adjusted a light? really? Ok.
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a dp isnt supposed to tweak and wander through a scene during a shoot - this is the fucking point - because this guy does it all the time its ok? - so his amateurish habits trump everything else?
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You mean the only reason to visit the site?
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Bale, frankly, is in a position to yell at a DP who won't listen and won't do what he's told.The DP is not in the position to do whatever he thinks is best, no matter what the lead actor or the director think he should be doing.
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So called me unenlightened, but FUUUUUUUUUUCK! This story on Bale and the subsequent audio is so much more "cooler" news than over half the shit that's posted nowadays. Where are the early script reviews...hell, where are the MOVIE REVIEWS NOT DONE BY THIRD TIER HACKS!?!!? USA's POP CANDY Blog has the same news bullets culled from the same resources.....but EARLIER! The only reason I come here is for the talkbacks. Harry, cut the talkback boards.....I dare ya! Watch this fucking ship sink!
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I work at Subway and there are always these FUCKING AMATEURS who come and and break my fucking concentration while I'm trying to make a fucking sandwich. They'll start listing the fucking meats and toppings they want before they even tell me WHAT FUCKING BREAD they want it on and whether it's FUCKING SIX INCHES OR A FOOTLONG. FUCK! I'm a sandwich artist. And my coworkers will just leave the fucking sandwich papers in the microwave--so fucking unprofessional. It breaks my fucking concentration when fucking assholes are giving me their order wrong, and fucking amateurs are leaving their fucking sandwich papers lying around, and not fucking wiping the mustard off the knives. I'M GOING TO KICK THEIR ASSES. I mean, Karl at the cash register, he's a nice guy, but me and him are fucking done. Professionally.
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..to become emotionless drones? Let's just let all the people who have never in their life lost their temper, never been so frustrated at something that they have blown their top, let them line up and start chucking rocks at Bale. Come on people. This country has become so wound up with celebrities and idolizing them we no longer look at them like Human beings. The next time any of you fucks are in a car and get cut off, have a waitress drop her snot in your food because she was too lazy to wipe her nose, or get kicked in the balls...remember what you've said about Bale before you open your mouth. Self righteousness has apparently become a fucking religion in this country. Grow up, and remember that we're all the fn' same. Stop putting people on a pedistal and expecting them to be better than yourselves just because they make a lot of money for putting their faces on our TV and movie screens. If you pricks would quit jearking up every People, Us Weekly, and tuning in to see Showbiz tonight...these people might actually get to live a bit more of a normal life. If you have a problem with their choices...then stop buying their shit..but keep it to yourself, and shut the fuck up.
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...wholeheartedly. Well-put Harry, you fat bastid.
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But as you said, he's been warned several times. Who did the warning? Certainly the AD? If he's been warned, and he does it anyway, that's messing up. I mean, in the traditional hierarchy of a film set, if you've been warned several times that you are disturbing the actors and affecting the scene, then you are most certainly the one messing up. And I've heard just as many reports from both sides of the fence on Bale's typical behavior. Some say he's gentlemanly and cool, and others say he's quiet or rude or something. Sounds to me like he's perhaps a (too?)serious actor who's nice to you as long as you act professional or respectful, but certainly has a temper. I don't really care one way or another, but in this situation, it really sounds to me like the DP was very much the one in the wrong. Except the language, which isn't all that surprising. And I'm not trying to attack the DP or anything. I mean, surely the guy seems talented, and I don't think he's a moron or anything. Maybe just inexperienced. Whatever the case, it SOUNDS to me like he was the one in the wrong here, but of course, none of us were there, so we'll never really know.
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HAHAHHAHAHA... perf.
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Not hardly. Whatever few meager dollars this film makes will in large part be on account of Bale's presence, so this little tantrum is perfectly acceptable to everybody involved. It's almost as though life isn't always fair.
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...A DP is supposed to do whatever it is his director wants. A DP isn't meant to run himself and his camera headfirst into an actress' face, but Richardson did it. You have no idea what was, or wasn't supposed to be happening on that set. This isn't a fucking Fast Food restraunt where everything is automated. Different DP's, directors and other assorted people have different ways of doing things. Bales lucky it wasn't Chris Doyle, who would be adjusting lights, fucking around with the camera and drunkenly hitting on Howard during the take. Like I said, maybe its not the way it supposed to be for Bale, but if this is the DP's working method, and it's really "wrong" why is he still getting work, and even working with McG for a second time on one of the biggest releases of the year?
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...once Terminator Salvation is complete. It sounds as though he was hesitant to begin with.
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No excuse for Bale's actions...stop trying.
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For posting that link OR creating the Bill O'/Bale mashup and then linking to it.
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I can honestly say I don't give two shits who you yell at. I don't care who my neighbor yells at, I don't care who my plumber yells at, I don't care who the bag boy at the store yells at, and I surely do not care who Christian Bale yells at. You're right, he doesn't get any special rights and privaleges just because he's rich -- which means I don't care about his work-related tantrums, just like I don't care about yours.
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exactly - the guys a music video dp and he works with mac jee - (fart noise) - and like you said, "whatever the director wants" - again, the director - its his movie and his set - he needs to control it
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No. Not the AD. By Bale. Thats the point, the AD and Director, the DP's boss (not bale) didn't warn him, and as evidenced by the tape, still didn't have an issue with the DP, instead telling bale to walk it off. "Bale, frankly, is in a position to yell at a DP who won't listen and won't do what he's told." No he's not. Hes a fucking actor. He's a position to read his lines and do what hes told. Unless hes Tom Hanks or Will Smith, who make or break films. This guy got lucky and fell into Batman. Lets see how many people were ling up around the block to check out Rescue Dawn (where got fucking out acted by Steve Zahn of all people). Again, MAYBE Bale is right, maybe hes not. We weren't there, and people who were there aren't gossiping about it, so who knows what went down. Besides, if you could tape every outburst on a film set, you'd no doubt get a hell of alot worse than this. But everyone bagging on the DP is just talking shit trying to defend obnoxious behaviour. "ITS OKAY TO YELL AT PEOPLE BECAUSE HE IS RICH AND FAMOUS OKAY!".
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And wasn't it the DP recording this tirade? Um, was he trying to piss Bale off?
This doesn't make me think less of Bale. And doesn't make me feel sorry for the DP. Don't like getting yelled at? Do what you are told or don't take the job. -
Personally, I don't think Bale should have lost it THAT much. A far cooler and more professional thing to do would have been to simply stop with the scene (if he truly felt it was now ruined)... pull the core necessary people aside... and then say "What the fuck is going on here? Seriously, we need to work this out NOW."Which brings me to the quote I cited above. If this Shane guy was an "unrepentant light tweaker" -- which by pure definition means it had ALREADY BEEN GOING ON AGAIN AND AGAIN -- they why the hell wasn't this issue ALREADY addressed? Or this guy fired? Seems to me that's the larger question. Why was this guy CONTINUALLY...or should I say "unrepentantly"...allowed to continue with his practices?
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Look...I've been part of very tense negotiations, I've managed dozens of people, and I'll tell you as a business professional...I'd have fired the lot of them for such behavior. Where is the manager (director)? Why is he not 1.Telling DP to stop fucking around and 2. Telling Bale to know his place (he is talent..not management) and shut the fuck up. When your employees begin running the show, taking disciplinary action into their own hands, and you don't have the balls or skill to grab the reigns and bring things under control...you are doomed to make a shitty product. Honestly...I now believe Hollywood is run by out of control, ego driven children with no people or management skills. No wonder 75% of the movies released each year are horrid...if these are the kinds of people running the place it is amazing, and probably pure fucking luck, anything of worth gets made at all.
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Feb 03, 2009 8:59:49 PM CST
Oh, and please stop with this bullshit about Bale being an assho
by stefano
...he was working, I would be pissed too.
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He's done several features since then. They all look like shit though, by the way. Did anyone see this link? At least McG finds its funny. http://www.defamer.com.au/2009/02/more_christian_bale_fun_mcg_prophesies_fliphop_remixes_and_a_soundboard.html#more
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right on!
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Bale's been working in this industry since he was like 10-years-old. He knows the proper channels. There's NO WAY he would confront the DP personally FIRST. He would simply tell the AD he doesn't like it, and the AD would relay that to the DP. It's no coincidence that the first person to speak out publicly in Bale's defense was the AD, b/c frankly, he knows this was his responsibility, and he'd like to work again.
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You have to be kidding me right? The guy cusses out a co-worker and you call him a murderer and a theif? WTF?
So you must be one of those kinds of people who have never in your life gotten angry and did something you shouldn't have done in the heat of the moment? Bull-shit.
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We posted at the same time, but your post basically raises the same issue I was trying to bring up, but you did it far better. So kudos to you.And you're right -- where the fuck is any sense of professionalism taking place here, amongst all parties involved? Where is any sense of PROPER business and set management occurring versus a bunch of egotistical, overpaid Hollywood crybabies running wild? Conspiracy is right again -- this is why 75% (if not more) of the movies released each year are utter shit. It's because utter loons like this are the ones working behind the scenes.
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...And wasn't it the DP recording this tirade? Um, was he trying to piss Bale off?
Um. No. You know DP stands for Director of Photography right. They actually have guys who record sound on movie sets now. It's not like your camcorder or mobile phone, where the sound and picture are all in one. I dont think he likes getting yelled at by a douche bag whose not in the professional position to yell at him. If it was the director or producers, that would expected. By a fucking actor?
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Who slapped his own mom and sister. I'm not surprised, granted I think the DP fucked this one up, but at the same time, YOU KNOW you're on camera. You're an actor. So act. Don't go ape shit. Be kind, courteous, then get that son of a bitch somewhere private and explode.
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Unless hes an arrogant asshole who doesn't give a fuck about proper channels. Which seems likely from the tape. Also seems likely from his ex personal assistant verifying that behaviour. The AD is speaking out because he is a friend of Bales who was brought on as a producer too. Strange that.
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But was he bat-shittier than Tom Cruise? Didn't think so.
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But you're right about it being the AD's fault. Although, from the tape, it seems Bale's way of bringing an issue to the AD is "SHUT THE FUCK UP BRUCE, FUCK OFF!". And when your meal ticket tells you to shut the fuck up, I guess you just do what you are told by your boss.
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OR WE ARE DONE PROFESSIONALLY. CAPICHE?
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no one is saying its ok to yell at someone if youre rich and famous - im saying its ok to yell at someone if theyre fucking up your work (out of inconsideration) after theyve been told repeatedly to try and not to
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oh - "ex"video dp who now does shitty features - are you arguing my point or defending it? - so finally the guys working on a big show with a big star and he brings his c-game - nice
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Why so serious?
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I don't think its fair though. I think he should talk to his boss about his co-worker. Let his manager do his job. Otherwise you just come across as an amateurish fuckwit. Which is exactly why this tape is being played everywhere on the net, because everyone else but the completely blind can see how inappropriate and ridiculous and indefensible Bales behaviour is.
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You haven't seen the film. You have no idea if he brought his C game. His work doesn't look any worse than Fiore's, and people seem to love that bitch. He's worked with MUCH bigger stars than Bale. Thats the thing, the is his first big film, because its not a smaller piece being generated by star power, like Semi-Pro, its a giant visual action film, in which his contribution is vastly more important than Bales.
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"I know this because I happen to be somewhere where someone that was there that day and for the shoot is." What kind of pig latin double talk is that?
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He runs the entire fucking camera department.
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Feb 03, 2009 9:18:51 PM CST
Krack is Correct, Harry Sold His Soul A Long Time Ago
by cadderlysoaring
I see so much back and forth about whether Bale was correct in waylaying Shane above in the feedback here.
But a lot of points still stand.
Harry WOULD have posted this as news back in the beginning of AICN. Not only for the hits/traffic but also because it was a site that catered to being a FAN, first and foremost.
Now, AICN has become a coporation and all Harry cares about is a freaking buck and those exclusives that he may miss out of from WB, Christian Bale and director McG (who does read this website.).
That pretty much says it all.
This is reminding me of the ethics debate of 99-00 in which Harry also came under fire. Ironically, it's for difference circumstances here.
Normally, in ethics, this wouldn't matter. It's all about Christian's performance, whether he was right or wrong, in addressing a fellow crew member in public in such a fashion.
But we frequently have to cover news that has "creative differences" on the set of movies and this is one right here.
Instead of covering the story in a legit fashion (with some context to Christian's very bad/stress ful week), Harry puts up a story that will feed hits/traffic to his website but also makes it sound like this above his notice.
He gets the best of both worlds here.
Play to WB, AICN fan McG and Christian Bale by feigning indignity but also posting it so the people have a feedback frenzy. It works for both.
It's been long accused that Harry sold out. People have been talking about it for years but here's one more example of it.
When did Harry stop really caring about providing content for FANS (the whole reason behind the launch of AICN) and start caring about STUDIOS??
Don't try passing excuses for selling out, Harry. The occasional 3rd grade humor aside, your readers are intelligent enough to read between the lines and that line is "Corporate Suit Harry." while the "AICN Harry" sold out a long time ago.
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...And the director didn't even notice that the DP was bothering Bale. 'I didn't notice it'.. McG says on tape. McG is totally at fault... but for allowing Bale to go on more than 10 seconds or so. I'd like to see Bale on Jim Cameron's set.
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When just about everything can be fixed in post in this day and age?
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This Dp is a douche and should be fired. Obviously, this guy worked on amateur films which nobody cared what he did around the set and nobody told him that he sucks. It took Bale, a professional, to tell this guy that he sucks at his job. I would have told this guy off also if he kept on interrupting my scene. I'm sure you won't see this DP on a Martin Scorsese film set.
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Harry you informed me of the damn video, yet you think you are taking some sort of stand by saying you aren't posting it. Are you fucking nuts?
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... if he allows his time tested bad habits to blow the stars performance during a scene - and if this guys contribution is vastly more important than batmans, as you say, why did they hire batman to star in it - they couldve gotten all unknowns to star - and just let the dp's invaluable vision carry the movie all the way to the bank
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cameron would hire a first string dp and this shit would never happen
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...Only problem is he didn't work on Amateur films that no one cared about. He worked on mid sized commercial hollywood productions with MUCH bigger stars than Bale. It took Bale, a guy doing a bad Eastwood impersonation on the set of the 3rd sequal to a time travelling killer robot movie to drag his personal issues onto a set and scream and yell like a baby because someone was interfering with his minor contribution to the film. So minor in fact that the director, you know, the guy who actually runs the set, wasn't even paying attention. Thats the reason this tape is such big laughs and getting so much play, because its a hollywood cliche. An average actor who lucks into a big role, and then proceeds to act out the biggest, dumbest cliche imaginable, yelling at a crew member for fucking with his "eye line" on a fucking junk action picture in which his performance means exactly NIL.
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.. I mean.. apparently it's neccesary for actors to have the ability to berate a fellow crew member cause they are having trouble making their little Terminator movie make sense.
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the camera dept. maybe - dp does not = management on a film or set
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Why did they pay Nicole Kidman 15 million dollars to star in The Invasion. Because hollywood is full of retards. You could have cast any reasonable actor in the role. I guess they wanted to lend the project some legitimacy, considering the pedigree of director and the fact that its another shitty sequal. But that doesn't change the fact that you could have dumped Bale and brought in Shia Lebouf and no one would have given a shit if the film looked like crap. Lets remove all the pretty shots of explosions and car wrecks and leave in all the emotional scens of Bale crying and see which cut does better.
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the camera department is higher than the DP? wow... interesting... okay thx for that info
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...to blow a scene. Um, did you listen to the tape. He's not the one halting a scene to scream and yell like a child.
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Not all male and female A list film actors are egomaniacs (although I'm sure many are). There's some who are respectful and professional towards their crew. George Clooney apparently got into a fight (that I believe turned physical) when he took offence at director David Russell verbally attacking a crew member on the Three Kings film, then someone leaked footage on You Tube (that should still be up on there to see) of egomaniac Russell verbally attacking a crew member on his I Heart Huckabees film.
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An EX-anything doesn't exactly make a great character witness. Especially if they've been fired, as Bale's was. I'm not gonna speculate on Bale's character, since I feel that would only be based on hearsay which is kinda pointless. I'm just speculating on this situation, and based on what we know (this has been a repetitive problem on set and disturbed the lead actor more than once), the DP, AD, and Director all screwed up, and Bale seriously lost his temper about it when trying to deliver an emotional scene with his co-star. No one's innocent certainly, but the DP's gotta learn his place in the machine. Bale's the one getting the big paycheck and getting asses in seats, not the DP, so Bale's happiness in doing his job comes before the DP's happiness doing his job. And when he's told (by whoever) that he's interfering with that, it's his job to fix it, period. And I know my professor (who is a DP, remember) would certainly agree, and his language was only slightly better than Bale's. That's Hollywood for ya, I guess.
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I actually think he was a lot calmer than i would have been. If you're a carpenter how would you feel about someone constantly sticking your hand where you're about to nail. How would you feel if someone kept interrupting you on a business meeting. If you're a photographer and someone kept cleaning you're lens while shooting. Fuck that guy! He should have smacked him.
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Some of you guys are hilarious. Please continue to enjoy casting judgment from on high regarding a situation (and a profession) you don't know shit about.
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Feb 03, 2009 9:30:24 PM CST
So, according to Harry it's a big no-no for Mel Gibson...
by snatchvagina
...to verbally assault someone, but with Bale it's okay? I mean, what? Talk about bias, man. Just because Gibson is a conservative and Bale is the Dark Knight doesn't make one right and one wrong. If you have a moral stand, great, but it has to be applied consistently and without bias...
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"I know this because I happen to be somewhere where someone that was there that day and for the shoot is."
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no - he is the guy that kept distracting the star of the movie while cameras were rolling - because he didnt notice they were filming, he was too busy adjusting and readjusting his lights - which shouldve been locked by the time the actors hit their marks - very professional
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go look up what DP means then figure it out
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Nothing will rival what went on in the Terminator Salvation TB. Harry only reopened this TB to compete with the awesomeness that is the other. Don't give in! Talkbackers, if you want the real gold, go to the Terminator Salvation TB and read up on all things Bale and White Darth Vader.
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I have to respectfully disagree about people going to see T4 despite who is in it. One thing Hollywood knows is that you need to have a star of a certain caliber to be in a movie for people to take it serious. Christian Bale is much more respected by the mainstream audience than Shia Labouf is, especially regarding blockbusters (of course, it helps to be cast as the lead and main star in the Batman franchise verus playing sidekick to Harrison Ford and giant robots).
Think, would Armageddon really have made all that money if they didn't have a star like Bruce Willis to make it look respectable, and would the Matrix have been as big of hit (despite how well it was made) if that didn't have Keanu Reeves in it to make it look like a legitimate Hollywood movie?
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none that work at this level - just tv spots and shit - why would you assume i dont know what a director of photography is - because im siding with bale?
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Harry, you should have stuck to your first inclination and just remained silent on this story (and, yes, it IS an appropriate AICN story involving several key production personnel on the set of a major studio flick; just because it may be unflattering to some does not mean it is irrelevant). Your reporting of additional facts to the background of the incident was good - it help provide perspective on what may have happened - but to editorialize and denigrate the DP opens you up for even more attacks of cronyism, which I would hope you'd have learned to dodge after all these years.Hurlbut acted inappropriately and unprofessionally on repeated occasions. Does this merit assault (not battery, just the threat of physical violence demonstrated by Bale in the recording)? No thinking person would agree, and to speculate about the actor's ego is just as pointless; it's is best left as dispassionately labeled "unprofessional".But who is truly at fault here? As has been voice many times on this thread, clearly Joseph McGinty Nichol did not run a tight set. To allow his star to rant unprofessionally and his DP to tweak/meander repeatedly is far more damning than anything Bale said....except, perhaps, Harry's one-sided defense of Bale. Perspective, man. You almost had it, but had to just wade in the shallow end of the pool. This is really one of the most compromising postings I've seen on AICN since the blubbering at the studio-screening of ARMAGEDDON. I know you need to maintain your contacts and sources, but you undermine any semblance of professionalism by referring to unattributed sources and mawkish rationalizations of rude behavior. It makes you comes across as a shill, whether or not that is accurate.This "story" will be forgotten within a week's time, but I think many of the readers who've taken the time to respond in this talkback will have come to realize where Knowles' loyalties lie, and it's not necessarily in objective reportage. I think it's pretty safe to say that as May 22nd approaches, Warner Bros. will smile kindly at Ain't It Cool News...
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I assume you don't know what a director of photography is because you said the camera department ranks higher than a DP.. That statement is fucked up beyond all recognition.
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He lost his cool on set... big fucking deal... he's got the weight of his second billion dollar franchise that he's supposed to resurrect on his shoulders and he lost it and yelled for a few minutes... people who have billions on their shouldn't are allowed to have the occasional fuck up. We ALL know that he's the last person who deserves to be called a prima-dona. We all have flipped out innumerable times under far less pressure ourselves. There is a real fucker here though... the person who sold this tape to TMZ. That worm should be fucking black listed from the film industry. He didn't reveal some abuse being suffered by some poor smuck at some shitty job. This was shit between two equal professionals. If someone fucking sold a tape of me yelling at someone for fucking up their job while I was trying to do mine... there is nothing worse than a fucking backstabbing worm who takes other people's conflict and uses it to make money. Disgusting. And anyone here who is giving Bale shit while dismissing what this person did is a fuckiing piece of shit.
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Why aren't they covered by the same real world laws as any other workplace? All their crony union rules, yet people are allowed to engage in screaming matches and threaten violence with no intercession whatsoever? It isn't just an employee thing, I can't go around threatening independent contractors at work, either. Isn't anyone with liability or responsibility actually in charge on a set? Funny how they want to enforce politically correct "tolerant" brainwashed workplaces on the rest of us though...
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harry, its no biggy. as soon as ET says "will this affect the movie?" they need to peddle out a PR guy to say "no, he's human. he was being asked for money by his estranged family, his marriage was going through something and his friend and coworker had just died" No big deal.
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One of the biggest rules of the set: STAY OUT OF THE ACTORS' EYELINES. EVERYONE knows this. The DP obviously knew, bc it sounds like the issue was brought up before, so he's the jerk for treating the actors like their job is unimportant. Think of it another way: Say the DP and the Gaffer are trying to set up their lights and they're under pressure bc the crew is behind schedule, so they're working their asses off for this very complex lighting scheme. And everytime they take a look at the stand-ins to see how their light is hitting their faces, the fucking BOOM OPERATOR with that giant boom mic is standing in front of the lights chatting up a PA, casting shadows all over the set. Now how can the DP and Gaffer do their jobs when the sound guy is fucking things up by getting in the way? Its the same fucking principle. When you're on set, stay out of the other departments' way when they're trying to get things done. You don't sit on grip equipment, you don't stand in front of lights, and you sure as shit don't continue to work while the actors are acting, ESPECIALLY NOT IN THEIR EYELINES.
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...Is okay to relieve by threatening people with physical violence.
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I remember a story that my Dad said he heard about Gary Cooper on the set of High Noon, and years later I've found it documented on the IMDB. Gary Cooper was suffering from a bleeding ulcer during the shoot and was in immense pain during the making of the entire film. During Cooper's fight scene with Lloyd Bridges, his son Beau Bridges, who was only a kid at the time, made some noises off camera that ruined the whole take. Bridges apologized to Cooper, who was in horrible pain and obviously wasn't looking forward to shooting the scene again. Did he scream and yell and berate people for having a kid on the set? No, he accepted Bridges apology and quietly said, "Let's do it again." That's real class; Bale could learn something from Gary Cooper.
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What kind of person Bale is - and this whole thing says nothing about that - has nothing to do with his work, that's all I care about. I don't think about Woody Allen shafting his foster-daughter when I'm watching his films.
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Well done sir. I'm suprised more people didn't learn from Tropic Thunder.
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batman begins disproves your argument. Bale was a nobody before that movie.
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i said a dp is not "management" in terms of film set in response to a statement someone else made - then someone, whinyneg i think, said the dp runs the camera dept. - i responded, maybe he does but he still doesnt run the set - reread higher up - ive been on sets - for crap mind you - but the dps, mixers, lsr's grips etc ive been around all knew enough not to fuck up a scene by distracting the actors - all of which were no bales
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That is what Bale should have asked....
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The Real Problem is that Shane Hurlbut is a much better DP then Bale is an actor. Why exactly is the (best case) 6th best actor in The Dark Knight and soon to be 4th best John Conner incarnation deserve to be protected by Harry I have no idea. Noone went to see The Dark Knight because of Bale's performance, they went to see the Joker, they went to see Heath's madness, the story and the effects, Keaton, Clooney, Kilmer even probably West could have given us "the acting" we got from Bale as Batman. I dont expect we are going to think he is any better in the Salvation, the movie will do good if it has good effects and a good story, noone is going to go see it because it has Christian Bale as the 4th guy to play John Connor.
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One does not measure someone's coolness factor when things are going well. It's only times are difficult, or when the situation is going badly - do we get to see who is cool - and who is jerk. I'm afraid the world is running out of cool people.
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like INSIDE EDITION.
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Feb 03, 2009 10:02:54 PM CST
IT'S FUCKING DISTRACTING! OOH GOOD !IT'S FUCKING DISTRACTING! OO
by mr incredible
DANCE EVERYBODY! Seriously, I had to listen to that rant remix again.
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and assumed i said something that is incorrect and uninformed - just like this recording of bale having a fit has been heard out of context and so many are assuming he overreacted and was out of line
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Yes he was a nobody, which is why he was cast as Batman. I admit, their are exceptions to the rule (such as when you have such a name character you don't need to cast such a big star) but the fact that they had to cast a star like Bale shows how much faith they have in McG. They have a recognizable name franchise but feel compelled to cast a star it in. Obviously they don't think the quality of the film alone will get people to buy a ticket; they feel the need a name actor to make this film feel legitimate and somehow worthwhile.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azOWjmfUqVw
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not from the fact that he wigged out at someone, but from the content, duration and sustained intensity of his wigout. And the fact that he pulled some retarded highschool jock bullshit where his buddies have to hold him back 'Christian man, he's not worth it....think of the BAND!!!' He took it way to far and personal. Personally, I'm an escalator, I don't respond well to being yelled at. If I was the DP, when Bale lunged I would have told him to go punch his mom if he needs to blow off some steam. Then he would have probably hospitalized me. Then I would have sued him, just because of how much it would piss him off to not be able to win.
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"I don't think about Woody Allen shafting his foster-daughter when I'm watching his films." I do, and it makes me feel good. antonphd, I should have his back why? Because he's a fucking ego maniac psycho? He's a fucking actor. A dancing monkey, and he's acting like hes working in an ER. How about a reality check once in awhile. bee152, he's not a carpenter. He's an adult playing make believe. Hes a stand in so we can see shit go boom around a story. Conti, yes, those films would have been hits. Will Smith. Thats it. Thats the only actor who is worth his bank in Hollywood. You think people line up to see Batman because its the latest Bale movie? Funny thing is, Shia can open a piece of shit sci fi action movie like Eagle Eye, but Bale wouldn't be able to. Thats why he has to attatch himself to franchises like this. One thing people have gotten right is this though, it's not a fucking story. Its an amusing viral video distraction, like fucking spaghetti cat or boxxy. It's funny because Bales reaction is so far out of whack with his profession. He's behaving like he's workng a real job, instead of playing dress ups, which is why everyone is laughing at him. Plus it's extremely cliched to see a big head actor ranting and raving about "emotionality" in a cheesy summer action film. Thew crew were probably walking around bored waiting for the next explosion, just like the audience will be in the cinema.
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Wow, I wish I could talk to people like that with impunity. Except even for Hollwood megastars there isn't really such a thing as impunity.
Tom Cruise got dumped by his studio for being a cultist weirdo.
Russell Crowe didn't get to finish a poem in a Baftas speech and put the producer up against the wall. Then he threw a phone at a hotel worker. Now his number is pretty much up.
Sean Connery has consistently refused to do a biography since all biographers have wanted to ask him about beating women. He even cancelled a much hyped public interview in Edinburgh because Sir David Steel confirmed he was going to ask him about the Playboy interview in which he'd said it was ok to slap women if they were being bloody minded.
Mel Gibson - need I go on?
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Feb 03, 2009 10:10:35 PM CST
Bale was about the kick the guys ass. Let's not make light of i
by happyhamster
Bale wasn't just sake "fuck". He was about the punch this guy's lights out, no pun intended.
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I like many others don't really care what Bale is like in person, so long as he keeps delivering amazing performances. MANY of Hollywood's finest are complete assholes...WHO CARES!?
All you blowhards getting worked up over the Hollywood gossip machine can lick sack!
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The main issue of this TB isn't Bale. It's Harry's ignoring of the story and later explanation. The guy is a major kiss ass insider of ENTERTAINMENT TONIGHT and PEOPLE Magazine proportions. If he just linked the audio clip it would have been good for a chuckle and that's it. But Harry had to once again let us know where his bread is buttered.
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THIS IS 10X WORSE THAN CRUISE HOPPING ON OPRAHS COUCH!!! WHAT DON'T YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND!? FUCKKIN ASS
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Feb 03, 2009 10:16:07 PM CST
BALE WAS WRONG, PERIOD! HARRY DON'T MAKE EXCUSES FOR HIM!
by darth_kaos
I won't go into a big BULLSHIT argument with HARRY on what's considered 'Cool News' of not. There's been tons of unnecessary bullshit (aka Script Girl) on this site that isn't cool, no matter how you put it. But in regards to the Bale thing, I see both sides. as a filmmaker myself, indeed you don't mess with light during shooting, that's just plain stupid for all kinds of reason. But Bale should have handle it a little better. He should have lead by example, and took the DP in a private area, then tear him a new asshole. You don't do that shit on set. Be professional.
But, I understand(wink, wink), Harry doesn't want to fuck up any future opportunities with Mr. Bale and his sort. Come on, you know and I know if it was someone like Brett Ratner yelling and screaming, it would be front page on this site.
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...About Bale sodomising the DP.
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called the guy a fucking douchebag. it's right to the point, everyone knows what it means, people will chuckle and it's all over.
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Feb 03, 2009 10:20:13 PM CST
As long as the performance is good, I don't give a fuck
by most excellent ninja
Honestly, the nicest straight forward actors are usually shit actors. Even if this was out of context, even if Bale was 100% asshole all the time it wouldn't make a difference. If Bale wasn't this intense he'd just be another actor. You can think of guys like Theirry Henry, the reason why he's such a good footballer and why he was probably the best player England's seen this decade is because he's so competetive. The dude gets angry playing with family, but who cares? If this is what makes him that good then whatever.
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verbally assaulting punk ass scrub amateurs is pure gold in my book.
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When I first got to LA I worked on an ultra low-budget b-movie with a real asshole of a first AD. The guy was a complete dick and he used to play games on PAs like tell the us to find someone who doesn't actually exist or make insane runs for stuff people didn't really need. He would also be telling the grips and the electrics this by going to their frequency on the walkie-talkies and laughing about how miserable he is making the PAs lives.
Problem was I had no patience for that shit at that time. I was young, broke and living in my car and not getting paid for this job, just like all the other PAs weren't (it was treated like an internship). So when I finally found out about what he was doing I blew my lid during lunch, front of the director and the actors. I told this guy he ever did this again I was going to fucking kick his ass and I meant it.
I will say the difference between McG and the director of this flick is that my director had it under control. He didn't fire me, but took me aside and explained that wasn't appropriate behavior on set; he said if I was having problems with the first AD I should have approached him or the Producer or even the 2nd AD and explained the situation. He also took the 1st AD aside and gave him the riot act about how he treated the PAs, telling him that was unprofessional to treat unpaid people that way. He then made us shake hands in public in front of the rest of the crew and told us he didn't want any problems from now on.
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at least in principle. This is gossip. this aint no gossip site. And comparing this to scriptgirl doesn't cut it. Plus she has titties.
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it wouldnt be the same site if he wasn't. this shouldnt come as a big suprise here, folks.
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(that's right, I called him out using a BSG reference) if McG, in fact, had been told by Bale even only ONCE before this, he should have handled it.
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is a young DP with little experience heading up a BIG BUDGET tent-pole film with exhaustive special effects work? Just the idea of it seems fishy to me. More to the story, don't buy this crap at all.
Also - I don't know of any DPs young or not, that mess with shit (unless they've planned moving or fluttering lights) when the cameras are rolling? Way to make usable takes unusable...
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Feb 03, 2009 10:29:55 PM CST
ReignO- I'm guessing there was ass play involved in the decision
by irrelevntelefant
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The DP should be behind a camera or monitor, NOT out in the set messing with the lights during shooting! Normally a DP should have very little or no contact with an actor! Every communication should go through the director! No wonder Bale said, "Are you gonna say something to this prick!" McG Should of had things more under control! I hope everyone learns something from this. I want this movie to be damn good!
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Feb 03, 2009 10:31:55 PM CST
I almost got beat up by Micky Rourke in a parking lot...
by irrelevntelefant
he didn't say a word... scary ass shit.
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http://site.despair.com/christianbale/
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There is no excuse to ever treat any human being that poorly short of some egregious violent crime. It's not an actor's job to deal with a DP, period. All he had to do was tell someone his grievance and immediately go back to his trailer. He obviously got off on abusing this poor guy, whether he was acting like a moron or not. Unacceptable. And I've been a fan of Bale's for years. I saw through the family drama bullshit. But I could hear clear as day, and it's not OK no matter what the context.
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is that no one's recording your rants. In every profession I've been a part of, someone's lost it over something legitimate (or not) on more than one occasion. Even eye witnesses take things out of context. That's why they usually lose credibility in court. Bottom line? This crap happens all of the time, in every profession. Get over it. It's nothing. Actually, it's pretty funny. That's about it.
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Waaaah! I love Bale, but give me a break. A douchebag is a douchebag.
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You don't get in the way of someone doing their job. It's rude. Pure and simple. He addressed the situation politely on several occasions and the dumb fuck refused to listen. Some people don't get it until you smack them over their head with a 2x4, metaphorically speaking. You tell someone once, twice, three times maybe but it takes a harsh burst to get it through their thick skulls. Besides, it is unprofessional for the DP not to be ready when the actor is working, I don't care if it's Marlon Brando, Christian Bale or even PAris Hilton. Rude and unprofessional. Scumbag.
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What is he, a fucking cat?
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The guy getting paid $10+ million usually has a say in just about everything. His name's on the picture. When we see a bad movie, we don't curse the lighting. I think it's more than OK. We also don't know what was said before the beginning of the recording. Maybe the guy told Bale to piss off. Was it over the top? Yes. But maybe that's what needed to be done to get through to the guy. I don't stand in judgement.
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Good on ya mate...As a DP myself thats atrocious and amazingly amateur behaviour...cmon Shane you know better than that, you got a well deserved bollocking! And why the hell wasnt McG not doing it! Where was he???
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not that the DP was one, but sometimes its good to tear into the occasional dumbass who doesnt get it the first time.
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Have you guys seen the trailer?? The cinematography looks GREAT!! Shane obviously knows what he is doing and McG obviously continued to let him 'walk around tweaking the lights' to get the effect/mood he wanted.
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Hey, since I badmouthed Harry's sycophantic brown-nosing of ARMAGEDDON earlier, Bob Parr's TB made me think I should revisit it to see the side the bread is buttered on. Sherman, set the Way-Back™:
http://tinyurl.com/armageddontears Pretty fucking amazing stuff, especially the last couple of lines. There are only 20 talkbacks in there, so it'd be fun to boost it back up - if you're up to it. -
Feb 03, 2009 10:47:21 PM CST
Our troops abroad are distracted by bullets whizzing by them.
by pagliacci
The President and Congress are distracted by an economic catastrophe. Bale is distracted by lights. And he's the only one that throws a fit.
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Being paid $10 million means that if someone tells you to don ballet shoes, a Smurf costume, and sing "Dancing in the Dark" acapella, you fucking do it. Being paid that much means others are controlling your every move, not vice versa. But for someone to take a fucking TERMINATOR movie this seriously is hilarious to me. "Oh my God, but he was doing such an emotionally powerful scene!!!!" Fucking ahahaha.
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Listen, I was on the set of Transformers 2 in Philly, and Micheal Bay was the biggest douche on set. he yells, he screams, but I guess his abuse is fine as long as the job gets done. The same goes for Bale I guess. but it's still wrong. I've worked on low and high budget sets, and there is a ton more of stress on the big ones.
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...that on the day any one of you snap with some uncalled for outburst -- and there will be that day -- the same rule is applied to you you're applying to Bale. Remember that, my fellow Armchair Moralists. Rude and unprofessional behavior cannot readily be defended, but it sure can be understood -- unless you're perfect, like so many of you here are implying you are. Cast the first stone, indeed.
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You and me are fuckin' done...professionally
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And I honestly take no issue with the way you run your site. But there's just no excuse for this. I know there are three sides to every story ... Bale's side, the DP's side and then the truth. But whatever that may be there is NO reason to berate another human being like that ... especially NOT with a fucking audience around. I've had people in my line of work that I'd love to berate like that, but you just don't do it. No matter how frustrating it can get. And that fact that you're so staunchly defending him tells me that you're more concerned with being a kissass than anything else. Too bad.
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I mean the guy does like 18 hr a shift and puts more work than some pissy fit Tantrum actor???
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I would be thinking numerous things: that they werent shooting anymore and hadnt yelled cut, theres something wrong, or they hadnt rolled at all...all of which whilst trying to act convincingly would be on my mind meaning shit distracted acting! No surprise he chucked a wobbly!
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Paris had a drink last night, Lindsay fell over.
When will this please go away? Hopefully people will start buying less of these magazines once the recession kicks in.
If you listen to that rant. Christian says " I've told you before."
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I'll say it one time, if you people are freaking out against Bale because of this, then prepare to disown neearly every favorite actor and director of yours because THEY'VE ALL HAD FREAK OUTS, especially the directors. Been there, seen it, on and off the set even.
Damn this talkback 100% represents how our society is beyond fucking media crazed, judgemental, ignorant, cynical, etc. Arm chair fucking Monday morning quarterbacks.
LOL!!! Damn people. It's the nature of the business. Film sets are high pressure atmosphere's and EVERYONE is on edge. Someone from every fucking department has a meltdown in any given 3 month or more shoot. Damn you better not like James Cameron, then. You better not like Scorsese. You better not like Day-Lewis. You better not like Ed Harris. Just a few examples. Important thing is they get the work done and hands are usually shook soon afterwards.
It doesn't make it right, but damn people, get off your high horses. If you're going to call out Bale, then you call out pretty much all of Hollywood at one time or another. Shit happens. And yes, the context does matter.
In the end, who cares. As long as Bale delivers like he arguably has been these last many years in hte context of the films I'm watching, it's all good. Some of my favorite filmmakers have proven to be assholes, or at least that is the perception that I've received for whatever reason.
Adam Sandler, his guys, and myself were playing b-ball at the Sony lot. Sandler and I were covering each other and my knee popped. One guy not with Sandler said, "Hey, you should sue him bro." Fucking tool dumb ass thing to say right? And you know what Sandler's reaction was? "How about I punch you in your fucking face." Taken out of context, Sandler comes off as an asshole. BUT, it was a logical and understandable reaction to some idiot suggesting that I take advantage of Sandler's fame... even if it was a joke. And for anyone who knows Sandler, he's not an asshole. THAT is why context is so important. -
Feb 03, 2009 11:00:17 PM CST
You're an idiot if you DON'T find this incident funny!
by bob cryptonight
First of all, the screaming is way out of proportion to what actually happened. Secondly, a guy in a bad mood or with a bad temper WOULD scream about something like this, especially if the "offender" had been warned several times but just didn't care (or, more accurately, COULD NOT STOP HIMSELF from mucking about with the lights). Thirdly, Bale walking away from this would not result in calming down--the dude had to vent! And, finally, the amount of the usage of "fuck" and the way he says it...that is all hilarious. That's one of the reasons that Vern's writing is funny...overuse of "fuck."
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I would be thinking numerous things: that they werent shooting anymore and hadnt yelled cut, theres something wrong, or they hadnt rolled at all...all of which whilst trying to act convincingly would be on my mind meaning shit distracted acting! No surprise he chucked a wobbly!
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You have all been screamed at by your supervisors at work for doing equally dickish behavior! Don't deny it!
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you here that, you whiny crybaby peaceloving hippy bastards!? The BALE will eat your soul and humiliate you in the process!
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Not me, but swiped from Reddit:
I remember this - I was there as an extra. We were way in the background in the middle of a scene when Christian Bale started this tirade. Those in charge hid us out of sight during most of it, and I was far enough away that I couldn't hear exactly what he was saying. It's entertaining to hear this and finally understand completely.
Apparently Christian Bale is a true method actor, and has to get into his role pretty heavily. I pity the fool (like this guy) who breaks his concentration.
I wish I had gotten a chance to shake his hand or something, but I'll just have to wait until sometime when he's not on set.
EDIT: Also of note, this took place only a couple of days before his "verbal assault" on his mother and sister.
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Also swiped from Reddit:
I've worked with a number of people who have worked with Leonardo DiCaprio. I've heard nothing but good from every single one of them. Yet I know a boom guy who worked on GANGS OF NEW YORK and in a street scene, Mr. DiCaprio was walking on set, smoking a cig, being all tough, and he flicks it away.
It lands on my buddy. Burns him. My buddy says "hey!" Mr. D looks back at him, keeps walking. My buddy says "well, you gonna say sorry?"
Leonardo DiCaprio turns around, says "I can't act any more today" and walks off the set. That's a wrap, folx.
And memos were exchanged, and phone calls were made, and my buddy didn't lose his job and the show went on... long story short, Leonardo DiCaprio, general all-around nice guy, was likely horrified that he'd flicked a cigarette butt onto a crewmember. Amsterdam Vallon, street thug, on the other hand, would likely have put it out in his eye. And when Mr. D had to reconcile those two people in his mind, he sorta popped out of gear and had to quit for the day.
Sets are emotionally supercharged. What happens there should not be mistaken for real life for a single minute.
(and yes - Christian Bale is a bit of a method actor)
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Of course! Because you were there, right?! Bale gets paid 10 million because he's the star. Because they want him in the picture. I know it seems easy, or unfathomable to most of us, but guess what? Get over it. He's the star. I don't have it backwards. And regardless of the context, or what was said, it's his picture. The DP was wrong. And to get our facts straight, he's an assistant DP. The DP is behind the camera, or at the very least behind the monitor with the director. Actors put in a crap load of work, just like everybody else on the set. They all do it in pre and post production. The difference is, nobody gives a crap about the assistant DP except the people directly affected by his mucking up the scene. When you work for so many hours, and you've done 48 takes...you get pretty pissed when someone screws it up. There are also times where everyone's doing their job, and the actor , out of exhaustion or whatever, gets the giggles. Shit happens. It's annoying, it's inappropriate...whatever! Bottom line, the big name actor trumps the grunt. Just like my boss screams a lot louder at my reports than I might. He's calling the shots. Like it or not, Bale calls some of the shots. That's the business. Deal with it.
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didn't ask what Bale thought of Huey Lewis and the News.
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We've got an actor with substance abuse problems playing Iron Man, and another with anger control issues playing Batman. HIGH FIVES ALL AROUND. Bale is the first guy to play Batman that I've ever believed could kick my ass. Dark Knight Out.
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I actually don't know if he's the DP or assistant DP. Either way, why would he mess with lights during a scene? It would just waste the film. dummy either way.
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Your story doesn't make any sense, because this happened a few months ago, but the incident with Bale's mom happened back in July, didn't it? You weren't there, fibber.
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I accept your high five and return the favor. Hilarious!
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Who's shocked that the DP fucked up? I remember freaking out worse than this on our shoots in college...can you imagine working with talent?
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Oh yeah, he was on bigger sets with bigger stars. Let's see, he did "Swing Vote, with kevin costner. Yeah, u know how big a star he is. He also did a great movie like "Semi-pro" with such great actors as Will Ferrell and Andre 3000. He did other classics as "into the blue", "waistdeep", and "mr. 3000". I think this proves that this DP was on terrible movies and movies with terrible actors where they didn't care what people were doing in the background. Oh yeah, MCG. I'm sure that Hack didn't care what was going on with his film set. Fact is, this DP is very bad at his job and shouldn't be allowed on a film set. Let's cross that, he can continue doing films with big stars like Kevin costner and Jessica Alba.
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and she certainly isnt cool.
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First of all, I want to state that I’m a working director and have insights on all sorts of set behavior, from TV shows to feature films. One thing that’s not only implicit but also strongly explicit is that once the camera is rolling, NO ONE moves or makes a sound. That goes from the production assistant taking out the trash to the producer watching on the sidelines. 1 ruined take can cost thousands of dollars so it’s in production’s best interest to limit the number of takes (if possible).
If it’s an emotionally charged scene, an actor can get physically and emotional exhausted during multiple takes. There are only a few really good ones in the best of them. After that, they’re faking it and it shows. So, from a production standpoint, EVERYTHING is locked down before the director or 1st AD yells “action”. Every professional in the industry knows this. Everyone in film school knows this too. For the DP to go wandering about and tweaking lights is a HUGE mistake and completely disrespectful to the actors AND towards production as a whole. He’s clearly inexperienced.
If this has been an ongoing issue, then Mc G and the 1st AD should’ve addressed this problem a long time ago. It’s Mc G’s fault for not caring enough towards the film’s best interest as a director and the DP’s fault for his inexplicable and inexcusable behavior on set. There is a certain standard and etiquette when working on a professional set that everyone is aware of. I’m not condoning Christian Bale’s actions but I do understand why he might feel justified in his outburst. It’s a tough call. Christian Bale must feel so frustrated, especially coming off of a more competent set run by Chris Nolan.
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Feb 03, 2009 11:30:58 PM CST
HARRY IS TRYING TO KILL THE OTHER TERMINATOR TB WITH THIS ONE!!
by dannyglovers_dickblood
Stop fucking posting here. He opened this one up for comments to kill the other one and make all our amazing material go bye bye. He wants us out of the Top 10. FUCK BALE AND FUCK YOU FOR SUPPORTING THIS HORSESHIT!! JOIN US!! JOIN US OR SUCK THE DICK OF A DEAD DOG YOU MOTHERFUCKING RATS!
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Feb 03, 2009 11:32:49 PM CST
"I'm a working director" WELL LET ME SUCK YOUR FUCKING COCK.
by dannyglovers_dickblood
Thanks for sharing!
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What Nonononstop said wasn't that bad. Its not like he was really trying to rub our noses in it or brag, just stating a simple fact that in his eyes gives him some added insight into this situation.
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"Why AICN Doesn't Post Links To Stories Like This Christian Bale thing that's everywhere": Because Happy Harry Hard-on DOESN'T TRUST "other" sources to give us the "real" story. Must be nice, having the market cornered on truth and objectivity and all. How fortunate we unwashed messes are to have an intercessor, an interpreter, an emissary of truth, justice and the Obamacan Way to lead us all down the shining path of righteousness and to the promised land of unbiased, unvarnished, unexpurgated Truth With a Capital 'T'!
Whatever. I've been coming here since the beginning, was one of the original couple dozen can't-miss Forumers, and I've seen it all. Harry creaming all over his Original Recipe-stained thighs for 'Godzilla'. Harry being named to the Top 100 Most Powerful People in Hollywood List and then grousing about being a perennial "outsider". Harry first BEGGING for birthday gifts, then DEMANDING them, then outright EXTORTING them from well-mannered prospective BNATers. Harry deigning to actually post a review every other month or so on a site initially conceived and advertised as having The Harry Knowles Film Experience as its raison d'etre. Harry pimping Barack Hussein Messiah Jehova Jumping Jeebus Jitterbug Hallejulah Obamarama. I've become used to seeing people I genuinely like and admire turn out to be total fucking whore tool bitches. Warren Moon. Roger Clemens. Jimmy Carter. Michael Phelps. And, now, ladies and gentlemen, someone who needs no introduction: Today's Biggest Douche in the Universe, Harry Fucking I Am the Great I Am Listen To Me You Heathen Ingrate Bitches Can I Please Have a Set Pass to Your Next Film I Can Pimp I Suck Big Fat Harry Dead Diseased Donkey Balls Knowles, Cockmaster, Esq., who actually has the brass ones to title a thread, "Why I'm Too Awesome to Mention This Piece of Shit Story," before spending three thousand words not only talking about it, but advocating one of its sides and frankly throwing one of its participants under the bus, sitting his fat ass down behind the wheel, putting said bus in gear, backing it up and then running back over the poor unemployable sonofabitch a second time before racing down the road to give Christian Bale a blowjob. And I LIKE Christian Bale. And I actually think Harry makes good points about the sort of chaos that can ensue on-set when everyone's singing from a different hymnal. But to bleat, "I Refuse to Discuss This!", then go off on some poor bastard DP who you've now rendered a eunuch in front of the entire world, is a particularly brutal and craven form of hypocrisy. All this journalistic fucking abortion proves is that the only difference between you and TMZ, Harry, that site you think you're so very much better than, is that [1] They go after the big fish, not the little guys; and [2] They make no apologies, offer no excuses, and in no way attempt to sidestep responsibility for what they do. You, my friend, are no different from the guy in the wife beater and the La-Z-Boy who watches someone get hauled off on 'Cops' for beating the shit out of his girlfriend, clucks disapprovingly and announces, "That's fucked up!", then cuffs his dog in the ear because the sorry sack of shit chewed on your shoes again. Being a dick is fine. It's a free country (for now). Just don't think for a moment you're any better than the scum you take such great pains to judge and deride and distance yourself from. You're the same. You just have the temerity, the audacity, the sheer brazenness to take a shit on someone and tell them, it's cool, it's actually hazelnut sorbet.
My advice: Grow the fuck up and stop reading your own press, and stick to what you're good at, if you can even remember what that was anymore. -
First, "I know this because I happen to be somewhere where someone that was there that day and for the shoot is"....is that even English? wtf? Bale had a tantrum and your too scared to bash him because it will shut down the pipeline of free shit to your house....you are totally without a shred of journalistic dignity.
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You're argument is unabashedly valid. People must listen to you all the time. How's that going for you?
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...this is not news, it's a private moment and Harry doesn't want any attention drawn to it? Ah, so that's why he created a whole article and then, for a time, banned anyone from posting on it.I don't know the whole story and, frankly, I don't really give a shit, but let's face it, acting is not a real job, is it? It's dressing up and playing make-believe for huge sums of money. Being able to act for a living should be regarded a privilege. It certainly isn't a grind like the poor sap above who's slogging his guts out in 'Subway'. Grow up, Christian, you spoilt little tit.
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Ladies and Gentlemen, this man is for the the birds!
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"The scene in question, was a very emotional and tough scene between Christian Bale and Bryce Howard. A scene that required soul bearing and a deep level of immersive concentration"
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Thank you for seeing what I wrote for what it is. You're probably among the few critical readers out there.
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Straight from Hollywood: Christian Bale has been replaced by fellow British action star, Bob Hoskins. For more "news that really isn't news but will be posted as non-news news" go to AICN...
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I'm an actor, almost 25 years of theatre and film and I would never act like that, and I've had many fucked up things go on during emotional scenes. What i have in incredible concentration, which any pro should have. IF something you don't like happens, you talk CALMLY to the producer or director and not act like a prick. All of our lives can be taken out of context...he doesn't get a pass because he's Christian Bale. I'm not a fan of that behavior, nor of him.
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Their classic Russel Crowe episode is one of my faves. Can't wait to see what they do with this!
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you know its coming.
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Because he's NOT young and inexperienced. Harry is just flat out talking shit and feeding you junk from Bale's publicist, or desperately sucking cock to stay in someones good books. "The DP should be behind a camera or monitor, NOT out in the set messing with the lights during shooting! Normally a DP should have very little or no contact with an actor!" And you officially have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. Congratulations.
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Funny how when O'Rielly did this, every liberal fuckbag and news outlet that could, smeared the shit out of him, but when Batman does it, it's the other guys fault. For the record I don't think either man was wrong to give shit to the people fucking them up, but man there is some serious hypocrisy with some of you AICN shitbags.
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Feb 03, 2009 11:57:22 PM CST
DEPT. OF LABOR REPORTS FIRST LAYOFF OF FEBRUARY 2009
by bringingsexyback
That would be Shane Hurlbut. It didn't have to be this way, if he woulda just stay out of the man's fucking sightline. I mean, is it that hard to fucking hold still during a scene or is this fucker braindead?
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"A very serious actor was doing very serious work."Erm, no. Not really. Not when you think about it. My missus is a casualty nurse. I'm a forensic photographer. That's 'serious work'. Christian Bale is a bloody actor. He's playing dress-up and make-believe in the third sequel to a low budget film about robots for more money than the wife and I will ever see in our entire lives and you regard that as 'serious' work?Sorry fella, but what little credibility you still had just evaporated with this post...
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I remember when he cussed out Roger Rabbit for walking around off set, and needless to say they have never held a professional relationship since
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Feb 03, 2009 11:58:56 PM CST
DEFENDING BILL O'REILLY WILL NOT MAKE YOU ANY FRIENDS, CHUTCH
by bringingsexyback
At least the kind worth having. And double-shitbag on you.
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The DP was an idiot for tinkering with the lights during a scene. McG was an idiot for letting him. Bale was an idiot for blowing up the way he did. McG was an idiot for not having more control of the set. The guy who leaked this is an idiot. McG is an idiot if he thinks James Cameron's going to give Terminator Salvation a passing grade. So in conclusion: 1 idiot point for the DP. 1 for Christian Bale. 1 for the guy who leaked the story. And 3 for McG... Isn't it amazing that even during a profanity laced, assholey, pretentious flavored tirade, by a guy who beats his wife and sister, McG still comes out as the biggest idiot?
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How did this all leak to begin with?
....Someone clearly wanted to retaliate and screw Bale over so they leaked the audio....Why?
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Someone fucking with your tuning on your guitar while your on stage.
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We all know you shill for WB so this latest "gramatical" attempt at spin control is more than pointless. YOU DONT HOLD NEAR AS MANY IF ANY OF THE SMALL AMOUNT OF CARDS OR CRED YOU USED TO. Now go back to your laser gun and "serious" work, fuckhead.
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Feb 04, 2009 12:07:18 AM CST
Go read CHUD's take (far better than Harry's cocksucking!)
by standundermyumbrella
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If there wasn't any bullshit like TMZ, E!, Access Hollywood and all the other "media" that's celebrity-obsessed, no one would ever hear much about their personal ives.
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You talk shit. You mean you are a working director on infomercials or something? Theres plenty of sets where plenty of shit happens once the director calls action, but you wouldn't know, because you are talking out of your ass, Mr. Industry Type. "He’s clearly inexperienced." Except, uh, he's not. And hes actually worked on real movies, unlike you. To bee52 "He addressed the situation politely on several occasions and the dumb fuck refused to listen." No, no he didn't. Maybe you should listen to the tape. He made one previous mention, ONCE, to the DP, and then exploded like a juvenile prat. To the other turd, whats your name, aportee, you're gonna sit there and claim that Bale's standing in cinema history in anyway compares to Costners? If you are, then you are a fucking idiot. Ferrell is a bigger star than Bale, Mocgheheuhgheewhatever the fuck is a bigger star than Bale. You know why? People go to see THEIR movies. They don't even have to be in good movies or get cast as Batman. " Fact is, this DP is very bad at his job and shouldn't be allowed on a film set." I wont disagree with you, because I thought Marshall was a shitty looking film. That said, you have no idea if he is or bad or good at his job, because you fucking haven't seen T4 yet. I can point to some shitty films Chapman has shot over the years too, but he's still got Raging Fucking Bull behind him. Yeah, lets all rag on this guy but give Christian Bale a free pass for piles of shit like Equilibrium or The Machinist then?
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This isn't a celebrities personal life you halfwit. It's his professional life.
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Listening to the audio it seems like Bale was left to get hotter and hotter under the collar and just keep yelling and yelling.
I think if I had been there I would have been asking him to calm down, it's not worth going ballistic over it, and just getting the other guy out of the room. Just keep trying to de-fuse the situation until cooler heads can prevail.
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You mean like how the AD stepped in to calm him down and talk sense to him and bale calmy responded with "SHUT THE FUCK UP BRUCE!" or the numerous times they ask him to cool down and take a minute or walk it off and he starts telling them hes going to fucking kick their fucking ass across the fucking room. Ass Fuck!. Okay Kurt, Equilibrium was okay as far as poorly shot, derivative, lazy low budget Paul W.S. Anderson wannabe show reels go. I'll give you that.
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...This might finally make Bale a movie star. Sort of like the anti crowe. What does this teach those ADD riddled children though, that poor behaviour is rewarded with attention. Naughty Bale.
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Didn't think it was that bad. It's not Memento but very few films are.
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Seriously that movie is unbelievable. And Equilibrium is his King of Comedy - not his best, but still a brilliant performance. Gun. Kata. Win.
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http://weblogs.variety.com/hal/2009/02/christian-bale-the-remix-all-of-them.html
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This sounds like something that occurs often during teching for a stage production. If that's where his experience is from, that makes sense to me. Doesn't excuse it in the slightest. But it wouldn't surprise me for that type of behavior.
Still, no one - stage, film or television - would do anything of that sort during a performance.
And while I think Bale is somewhat of a putz for blowing up in such a fashion, I can certainly appreciate where he's coming from. I know he's an intense actor, so hearing this doesn't surprise me much either. There's nothing worse than having something external fuck up a scene or a moment you're working in.
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The AD was trying to calm him down very early on in the situation, like the first 30 seconds. Very brave of him since Bale was obviously still in mid-explosion. But they let it continue for over 3 minutes. Sure there was the occasional "you want a minute?", "you want to take a walk?", but that just came across as patronising, further fueling Bale's anger. It seemed like everyone was too stunned to act on the situation, get the DP out of there and seriously get Bale to calm down. Is just how I hear it.
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I've blown up a lot worse over a lot less.
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It's a short film stretched painfully out to feature running time. coupled with a truly bizare performance by Bale. Not a bad performance, just one completely alien to the film he is in. Equilibrium made fantastic use of Bales cheek bones in a shitty film. I think he peaked with American Pscyho, which is a weak adaptation (although that material is...troublesome...to adapt) but a fantastic, star making performance. I also think Rescue Dawn had the misfortune of being an exellent film released in a year with too many great films, but again he was great. I love his Batman flicks and I think the dude is 100 per cent genuine leading man material, although it'd be nice to see more range from him. I kind of hope Batman/Terminator and getting some tabloid exposure opens up the choices for him a bit more to pick from. It'd be nice to see big movies being offered to someone other than Will Smith or George Clooney (or, if god is smiling on us, he can replace Brad 'I cant fucking act for shit' Pitt on the rosters of good flicks. Imagine Fight Club with Bale instead of Pitt).
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I think the RevoLucian Remix needs to be our national anthem.
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Feb 04, 2009 12:26:26 AM CST
You should have just given Bale a BJ in person instead of making
by happybunni
Bale is a fantastic actor in my opinion. But there is no excuse for not controlling yourself. Bale should not have blown up no matter what, he should not have threatened the guy no matter what, and he should not have created a toxic work environment. You know what happens on normal jobs when you freak out like this in front of tons of people, and make the work environment toxic? You get fired.
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While physically Bale went to even more extremes than De Niro did in Raging Bull, emotionally and internal acting-wise Bale doesn't approach what De Niro did IMHO.
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Feb 04, 2009 12:29:07 AM CST
MRS. DP WAS CLEANING THE WEAK SAUCE OUT OF DP'S UNDERWEAR
by bringingsexyback
right after that shoot. Seriously he musta peed and shat his pants after the Bale out.
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He ripped into the guy for 4 minutes, in front of everyone, screaming like a lunatic. Come on, that is just not defendable.
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It's because Bale is the fucking man. The big dog on set. Thats why everyone is calling him a douchebag. Because a) He doesn't really deserve to be the A list star yet, and b) thats exactly the cliched way people expect self centered stars to behave. People are right when they say he's probably more important than McG on the set. The producers would rater lose McG than Bale. Kurt, yeah, there were some cool ideas in Equilibrium. Too bad they were put to better use in their original incarnations in the likes of 1984, A Brave New World, The Matrix and Farenheit 415. Gotta agree with you on one part though, I never would have imagined the drop off from (to me) a lazy, dull yet very professional flick like Equilibrium to the shampoo commercial style hysteria of Ultraviolet. I wonder how that happened.
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I know other people have mentioned it, but "I know this because I happen to be somewhere where someone that was there that day and for the shoot is." What the Fuck does that mean?
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I realize that the antics of many a movie star rival what we've recently heard from Bale, but it nonetheless remains inexcusable and dispicable. Sure, the DP was apparently out of line but
Bale's crazed, vicious and aggressive rant was even more so. I guess the rumors were true. He's a great actor, but seems like he's got some anger issues. -
Oh no - I ain't saying Raging Bull and The Machinist are on equal footing (it was Scorcese's height of brilliance IMO) ... but I'd say they're comparable in the scope of DeNiro and Bale's respective careers.
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...Righteous Kill or Rocky and Bullwinkle?
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First of all, I wasn't referring specifically to Christian Bale.
Secondly, when I said "personal lives", I meant what celebrities do when I don't see them on tv or movies. Whether it's filming a movie or walking down the street, I don't give a shit.
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They could't have gotten even a Toyota Celica?
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...BUT I am not always happy with some of his acting choices, especially his performances as Bruce Wayne/Batman and in 3:10 to Yuma. Good performances, but I believe they could have been better.
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I have to assume about half of you are still in high school. Because anyone who has had any job and lived in the real world for about 5 minutes knows that people lose their shit all the time. I haven't had a job where someone didn't meltdown at least once a month and I mean in like museums and import/export companies where the amount of money involved is minuscule in comparison. The worst thing you will find in the workplace is when someone not only can't do their job, but fucks with your ability to do yours. And when that happens you get pretty pissed off. Some people are aggressive and some people are passive-aggressive. I'm willing to bet that Mr. DP here is the passive-aggressive type and does his tweaking to piss off his more aggressive coworkers. That's how some cowards get off, by pushing other people's buttons, because their buttons don't work. I'm so with Bale on this one. Because I've dealt with enough incompetent and careless morons in my time to know that they need to be removed from earth. So a little shouting is nothing.
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Maybe you should make that distinction if you are posting in a thread related very specifically to Christian Bale. I'm sorry I also didn't understand your very incorrect use of the world "personal". Next time you deliberately mangle the english language, you should give us a heads up, so we know what the fuck you are talking about.
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I am totally pro-Bale.
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Definitely seems like Bale is running the show from this. What sort of a boss lets one employee go nuts at another employee like that? Within 10 seconds I would have told him to shut the fuck up and get off set to cool down and to deal with it after.
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I have had several real jobs. I've had several bosses behave like that. Not to me though. If they did I'd break their fucking jaw.
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...that should be all he says when someone asks him about this. and they should feel lucky that he has not chosen to kill them.
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Everyone is ragging on McG, but after the shit and ego's he would have dealt with on the charlies angels sets, he probably doesn't understand what the big deal is.
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Another moving performance from Christian.
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agreed... this kind of stuff happens all the time. also, if any of you has spent much time on film sets, most of the time it is the director or dp or AD or producer who go ape shit on the lower guys like the grips and pa's and whatnot.
What Bale did was fine with me. Each shot is thousands of dollars, and Bale, being paid what he is, will be held responsible for how the movie performs. ALL people on set know to stay out of an actors way when they are doing their thing. great actors are often intense... he didn't personally destroy this guy. even said that he was a "nice guy but..." the dp is a wang and should not be anywhere near a set. everyone's work is relative. i don't see why a forensic photographer is more important than an actor. and if a nurse is important, well a doctor is much more important than her, so can a doctor shit on a nurse by this logic? the last few lines were for the hero who posted before that he and his wife are monumentally important because they do whatever they do. nurse and photographer. i hope detectives shit on this faggot photographer. you are just taking pictures, they are actually solving crimes. anyone can take a fucking picture... what makes you so fucking special? -
Here is everything the DP said. Christian, Christian... Christian I'm sorry... Yes I am (a professional)... I was looking at the light. I absolutely apologize. I'm sorry, I did not mean anything by it. No, what it is, is looking at the light and making sure, that you are...
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An extra was walking in Bale's eyeline while he was dancing in Newsies. You can imagine the rest.
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Feb 04, 2009 12:56:55 AM CST
Is there a link to the audio of Bale's apology to the DP?
by amy chasing
Just so we all have closure.
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Feb 04, 2009 12:58:52 AM CST
amy chasing i'd say that'd make a great project for someone to e
by ribbitking
All Bale's movies..there has to be a great apology scene someone could edit together.. i'm too lazy.
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One less fuckin' ass among us, the better.
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you can only go by what you've heard. If you weren't there you don't know what truly happened. I don't think anyone here knows the full story. Harry included.
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will immediately be replaced with another. They are legion.
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Not because he is Batman or John Connor or some other Dumb shit like like that. he is Right because there are certain professional standards that ought to be adhered to and this Douche DP thought he was to cool to respect them. On top of that you have a man who has to push himself emotionally for this scene so he might not be as congenial as he usually is. Professional techs understand these dynamics and this guy was just taking a huge dump on them. F-this dude he deserves to only work on B-movies until he learns to be a trues Professional!
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Let's apply that criterion to the rest of AICN's output, shall we?
ScriptGirl - not news, not cool news
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Is a topic for 5 years ago, it's not really a secret anymore. Anyone who visits movie sets and flaunts his friendship with directors is beyond objective. The greatest irony of AiCN is Harry is the biggest Plant of them all.
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Feb 04, 2009 1:23:32 AM CST
Harry = disgustingly shameless starfucker that defends Bale
by tallboy66
Ick. I like the site alot but somehow trying to justify someone's actions like that is just ick. You're also the one who defended Polanski. Jesus Christ, Knowles, just because they're in Hollywood doesn't make them fucking untouchable. You get so gat-damn righteous about Bush constantly, but the second a left-Hollywierd douche goes off you rush to defend them? Shamless sucking up. That's real sad.
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I'm a big Christian Bale fan, but the fact is he lives in the public eye, this DP guy doesn't. He probably makes a living (earning considerably less than Bale) by going from film to film, based on his previous job. Counter-acting bad publicity for Bale, by printing something that you heard from somebody else, but also may not be true (as you weren't there) is just as bad. Look, some people argue, some get stressed out & argue in an overly heated way. That's life. But nobody deserves to be ranted at in a half British, half American accent for that long!
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is weak. The obvious difference is that Ooooh Reilly owes his (relative) popularity to his righteous rage, his 'culture warrior' status. Which kind of implies that he only gets angry at people who deserve it, you know, DIRTY LIBERAL PINKO HIPPIES -- not some working slob. Righteous fury, not pitching a fit because his latte is too cold, that's the kind of image he pretends to despise. Bale, on the other hand, is an actor. His career is built not one bit on what he's really like as a person, he never pretended to be some shining paragon of justice or morality. So the fact that he's a douchebag means little. Unlike our smarmy Fox friend. Simple difference. And I knew people would draw the line as if they're exactly the same thing.
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Feb 04, 2009 1:36:13 AM CST
sounded like Bale was the ONLY ONE with a problem here
by the power of greyskull
did the director have a problem with the DP walking around?
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did the 1st AD have a problem with the DP walking around?
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did Bale suddenly decide this was HIS movie and his movie ALONE and that HE was in charge, not the director, not the AD - and take matters into his OWN hands?
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Harry, I can think of at least one scenario where the lights would need to be constantly be tweaked and the DP could well be the only one who can see it (ok maybe the camera op, too - unless they're one in the same on this set) -
let's say you are doing a REVERSE (do I need to explain what kind of shot that is to people?) and you are reasonably CLOSE on your actor's face - and it's an "emotional" scene where he tends to move his head around a fair bit...
sometimes you can light a shot like that so the actor can move their head all they want and it's no problem, but sometimes you just can't - sometimes you need to get in there and adjust that shit - course you do that IN BETWEEN takes and who knows? maybe the DP was completely unprofessional and needed to be talked to?
that's not the problem - the problem is it's NOT HIS PLACE to do that and THAT is completely unprofessional!
did BALE threaten physical violence on the DP?
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did BALE tell the AD to "shut the fuck up"?
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did BALE contradict and UNDERMINE the director in front of the whole crew??
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This twat is called Joseph Nichol...
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To rephrase what I said, which maybe didn't get my point across well..isn't it unfair to essentially lable this guy as unprofessional? Bearing in mind the fact that you don't know him & he probably depends on his reputation to earn a living? Bale could never work again & he'd still be rich. This guy works a real day job.
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Ugh. Just ugh.
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"i don't see why a forensic photographer is more important than an actor. and if a nurse is important, well a doctor is much more important than her, so can a doctor shit on a nurse by this logic?" If you don't see why a forensic photographer is more important than an actor, that speaks to you being a useless moron, not the important of a given job. Guess what dude, Doctors chew out nurses all the fucking time, because...they are more important. Thats how it works.
"i hope detectives shit on this faggot photographer. you are just taking pictures, they are actually solving crimes. anyone can take a fucking picture... what makes you so fucking special?" Guess what would happen if he did that? His peers and co-workes would think he's a totall fucking faggot idiot. Which is what people currently think of Bale. " push himself emotionally for this scene" You mean scowl and talk in a low grunt? Yeah, fuck me, I can imagine how horrible and stressful it must be to visit such dark corners of the human soul. "F-this dude he deserves to only work on B-movies until he learns to be a trues Professional!". The quote speaks for itself. This is no different from O'Rielly, only Bale thought he had a legitimate reason for being angry, whereas O'Rielly was freaking out because he is too retarded to understand simple English. O'Rielly also pretends on a daily basis to be an educated and informed individual, thus it was waaaaaay funnier. Bales just rules because it's Batman shitting on some meek crew member. -
if you're not actually there, you can't know the whole story. That goes for everything. I'm not defending Bale, but who knows what's going on in his life, or what the DP's body language was like, or what their history is. There's plenty of reasons why you can't just say "this guy was right, this guy was wrong" here.
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Feb 04, 2009 1:44:18 AM CST
Except for the whole tape of him screaming like a lunatic Amy.
by whinynegativebitch
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I'd knock the cunt out. Simple as that. I think the DP came off as polite & calm in comparison. McGimp came off as a weak little shit, scared to step in, just in case Bale walked.
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you wanna slam someone completely based on an audio recording, go ahead. I guess that's justice for ya.
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yes it's true people lose it all the time in every profession - especially when there is big money riding on the project - but you know what separates the true professional from the dumb shit who has been promoted to the level of their incompetency?
WHERE they do it - if you do that shit in front of everyone, especially if you single someone out in front of everyone - MOST especially if you disrespect those who are trying to help you by telling you to take that shit some place else - you fall into the dumb shit category.
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We are seperated into "bad things happen" and "people should be nice and good and dispense lollipops to each other all the time" camps.
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who cares?
I doubt he's the first actor to throw down and certainly not the last.
I've not listened to the clip, but did he use his dodgy Batman voice?
Anyone consider this was leaked to generate more publicity for the flick? People will be watching this film's progress more closely now for sure.
I do agree though that Mr Knowles is being every so slightly hypocritical & biased towards Bale.
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Because he's a big weeny. I've worked with ultra peevish DP's in the past and they just piss everyone off. They never know how to talk with people and are always changing their minds over and over and have to personally adjusting every light bulb on set. Also, he's not entirely new and has been working for over 20 years in the Industry and should of known better. I bet every G&E in the world is laughing their combined asses off at him. I know I am.
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Only he could come out of this looking better than before..and oh yeah..Harry, yer still a fucking tool..you said "why arent we posting this" by POSTING IT..dumb ass..coming from the same site that posted topless Meagan Fox pics from Jennifers Body..you are or you arent Harry..TOOL
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WHAT DONT YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND
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WHAT DONT YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND
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WHAT DONT YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND
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WHAT DONT YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND
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Nah, he didn't use his dodgy Batman voice, but I'm not sure which accent he was doing. It was pretty fucked up! Not a mixture of British & American, it was like British one minute, American the next, then back. Bizarre.
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His name is Joe Nichol.... Fucks sake!
I could understand it if his surname was McGuff or something else kinda Farty... But Joe Nichol... Jeez.. "I called myself McG because all my brothers had the same name.. sob sob". I dont know if thats true, eitherway...
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He's not 22 anymore so for him to act out like that like a diva,ala, Diana Ross, Maria Carrey, Cher, Madonna, Jolie, etc. is being a fucking pussy.
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Hence the British one minute & American the next. Princess Leia could rip Bale a new one, hands down.
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When Leia's done with Bale, she can rip me a new one too. I'm oiled & waiting.
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So, let me get this straight...some of the biggest assholes on the internet post on AICN talkbacks, and then poke insults at Christian Bale claiming he's an asshole. Well, I guess you guys know your own. Maybe he'll sign up and join us?
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Feb 04, 2009 2:10:25 AM CST
Christian Bale can do whatever the fuck he wants-
by particularly hard vato
The DP is lucky he didn't get his lights shoved up his ass. Seriously- if Terminator Salvation does not suck- it will be because of Christian Bale. He's fucking Batman- and nobody gives batman shit. Seriously- Bale is a great actor, and Mr. DP should STFU. Go Batman! And one more thing Bale- you're only cool if you do Batman 3!
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2 words. Fuck. That.
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...I'd tape it and sell it to TMZ.
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Joseph "McG" McGinty Nichol (born August 9, 1968) is an American film and television producer and director. He was nicknamed McG from birth to differentiate him from his uncle and grandfather, both of whom are also named Joe
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excuses for this kind of behavior. It's like when we were in jr. high and everybody took the side of the popular kid and dogged the nerd. Well, I got some news for you guys, most of you are fucking nerds so remember that when you're taking up for Bale and his temper tantrum. After all, Harry took pussy way out putting ALL the blame on an anonymous face compared to the famous dude. It's beyond sickening!
And this is coming from a person that loves Bale as an actor but I'm not deaf or blind. Harry should be a pr crisis person or a publicist because he's has no fucking shame w/ what he contends. I thought it was bad when Capone went gaga over Paris a few months back when he got to interview her and the way he went on and on about how great she was and how they "touched" under the table. Another truly sickening ass-kissing 1000%. But Harry has definitely topped Capones pussiness w/ his blind or undying support for the head movie star. Which he'll do 9 times out of ten sadly! Shame on you for being two-faced and I don't know how the hell you could have taken that stance. And I don't give a fuck about how many times these divas act out like this b/c their backers always end up throwing them under the carpet. -
Don't make me angry: You wouldn't like me when I'm angry! And God help you if you cut me off in traffic... rrrrrrrrRAAAAAAAAW, I'll fuckin' kill you, you bloody cunt!
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http://site.despair.com/christianbale/
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Great. Now I got to be thinking of that before I go to bed.
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You know, Dickwad.
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"What do you want for dinner Darling?" Shut the fack up. It's fahking distracting. I want Spaghetti. What don't you fahcking Anderrrstand?"
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Feb 04, 2009 2:26:24 AM CST
DP: "I thought we we're supposed to be a team, a unit?"
by guitar heroine
Christian Bale: "Suck my unit!"
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This is what happens when humans don't eat meat. They get skinny, pale, and really fucking uptight.
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Humans are supposed to eat animals. That's why cows are made out of steak.
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...Bale should have never reacted that way. Amateur move or not Bale did not need to dress down the DP in that matter for any reason whatsoever.
I want to know what magic serum is inside Bale's Ballbag that Harry sucks his dick so much. What are you expecting to be rewarded with fat man....gooey ropes of dexatrim?
What a hypocritical hunk of horseshit this all is. Bale is a dickhead no matter the context of this childish outburst. And yes I said childish even after posting what I did. -
Harry being a fucking apologist? What else is new. You know that he won't be slobbing on your knob no matter how hard you defend him, right? Why should we care if Bale's a dick? I'm sure that your average AICN talkbacker would consider most of these pampered motherfuckers we call "artists" to be dicks, but we watch the movies anyways. Harry, just forget this shit and start preparing to pimp out the inevitable Hostel 3. At least Eli Roth might actually lick your nuts.
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ewwwww
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Feb 04, 2009 2:36:56 AM CST
I do have a question for those chowing on Bales cock...
by whinynegativebitch
...If a DP, any DP, had taken half a day to wait for light, and Bale had fluffed his lines, and the DP had run in screaming "YOU WORTHLESS FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT, I'LL BREAK YOUR FUCKING FACE! YOU RUINED THE FUCKING SHOT YOU MAGGOT CUNT!" do you think it would be"acceptable" behaviour and understandable given the circumstances, blah blah blah. Fuck no. They would sack his ass.
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http://www.shanehurlbut.com/bio.html
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The answer is simply no because life is unfair. While a DP's job is hard and takes a lot of skill, it isn't a performance job, and by that I mean he is not suddenly put on the spot and expected to perform something flawless right then and there. He has the "luxury" of not being judged by his work while he is working but by how it looks after it is shot.
Actors, however, are judged by their performance which they have to do while the cameras are running. They are put on the spot and expected to hit a mark or perform flawlessly each take, and if they don't get it people will look down upon their work.
The second thing is that DPs also are lower on the totem pole than most major stars and as such are not given as much preferential treatment. Producers and studios pay way more for a major actor than they do for a star, plus if a star pulls out of a picture halfway it cost shitloads to reshoot, but you can always replace a DP in hopes no one notices. Stars are simply more important than DPs and as such you have to take their belief that their craft is more important to the success of the film than a DPs. It isn't fair, but life isn't fair. Soldier's actually do all the fighting, but they have to salute some dick with stripes who usually never sees the frontline. That is how life operates. -
"Producers and studios pay way more for a major actor than they do for a STARr" I meant to say "than they do a DP". Getting late.
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Feb 04, 2009 2:52:24 AM CST
Your right, and thats why people hate dicks like Bale.
by whinynegativebitch
"The second thing is that DPs also are lower on the totem pole than most major stars and as such are not given as much preferential treatment. "
Thats the ONLY thing. And Bale knows that, as do all other major stars. The difference is it takes a real fuck head (Bale in this case) to act on it. -
FUCK WITH MY LIGHTS WILL YOU HUH? DO YOU HEAR ME, HUH? I SAID DO YOU HEAR ME? I WILL RIP OUT YOUR ASSHOLE AND PUKE INTO YOUR INTESTINES, DO YOU UNDERSTAND? YOU, YOU, MOTHERFUCKER, YOU PIECE OF SHIT. WHAT, WHAT WAS THAT? I'M A BITCH, NO, YOU'RE THE FUCKIN BITCH. YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE DONE, PROFESSIONALLY. FUCK YOU, YOU ASSHOLE. I'M GONNA KICK YOUR ASS, YOU FUCK........... NOW I'M READY, LET'S DO THIS. FUCK YOU. And, boys and girls, that was Christian Bale talking to his mom. What a potty mouth.
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...but I do believe that the DP does have some responsibility for this by acting unprofessionally (You don't keep walking in an actors eye-line) but like I wrote earlier, I put the majority of the blame on McG's lap. As director he should control his set and realize if their is a problem.
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I Absoloutely pissed myself. I just wish Bale had pulled out a gun... or an axe... now that would have been really cool.
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"You don't keep walking in an actors eye-line" Are you people fucking serious with this shit. It's almost as funny as Bales outburts. Again, he's not a fucking brain surgeon. He's pulling a funny face and talking in a funny voice. If he can't handle some dork in peripheral vision, how about he take up something more suited to his abilities, like toilet cleaning. It's funny because its a retarded overreaction and signifies mind boggling self importance. Again, all he has to do is remember the lines and not walk into the furniture. He's swapping out a heart or defusing a bomb. He's acting like a tool, and as a result he's got several months of youtube remix's and late night talk show jokes at his expense. It's better than a punch in the mouth, which is probably what he would have got if he'd been around actual men, not film set fairies.
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The best bit is when you could hear him scuffle in the dirt as he did the quasi tough guy hold-me-back charge. Thats right, motherfucker, I'm gonna pretend like I'm gonna get in your face.
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Harry, psst, you're talking about it now. "You and me, we're done professionally. No Fuckin eh, Harry. I mean it. You're a nice guy, but you don't know shit about talkbackers!"
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Yes, tweaking with lights during filming is unprofessional... but also shouting and spewing a string of profanities for 5 - 10 minutes is a sign of weak character... and is just as unprofessional.
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just.....sigh
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"Sigh.....just.....sigh". Thats really gay. Are you practicing what you're going to say to Hugh Jackman when you get him to sign your Wolverine poster at his next comic con?
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Every single human being has had a "balegate" moment. I don't mean we've all went overboard it response to a mistake of a peer, but we've all done something in our lives that for one reason or another would have people thinking less of us, and that we regret. We didn't get our shit broadcast to the world, so why should Bale?
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Bale is just a fuckin rage head. Everyone flies off the handle now and again, but everything I read from the guy that's candid and not blatantly endorsing his shit, he seem like he's just about to snap any moment. Im not even gonna say he shouldn't have freaked out, that's just human nature. but i hope the lousy bastard apologizes too.
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...........professionally. I'm not gay everybody, honestly. I mean when I said that him & I are done..which we are..professionally.. Look I'm NOT GAY ok?"
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Praise in public...reprimand in private. McG should have reigned Bale in quick. The DP answers to the Director. Yeah, I heard Bale tell the AD to shut-up... seriously... I would have been all over Bale.
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I was quoting a post from Reddit.
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Feb 04, 2009 3:30:43 AM CST
"We didn't get our shit broadcast to the world, so why should Ba
by whinynegativebitch
Because he's a giant fucking movie star who was stupid enough to do in public. Why the fuck should be treat him like a fucking princess? If he was a fat mall security guard screaming at a kid on a skateboard it would be all over youtube too. Seriously, the line for people to feel sorry for in this life is really, really long and I'm not sure Bale, a millionaire asshole deserves a place on it.
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Feb 04, 2009 3:36:03 AM CST
I wanna nip that fucker who recored&leaked this mp3 in the bud!
by motoko kusanagi
And shame on all of you FUCKING MONKEYS that are crying about how oh-so-bad Mr. Bale is.Shut the fuck up and move along. Thanks.
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Yes, I take that shit serious. Why? Because I like to think I am a serious editor and filmmaker and I like to think I work on serious movies, not a bunch of guys fucking around with the camcorder on the weekend. I like to make movies as good as they possibly can be, even if they are b-movies or low-budget independents. You obviously don't think it is a job that should be treated that seriously, which is fine, but don't try and act like us who do work in this profession are nuts or overreacting. This is our profession and something we are passionate about.
Serious, talented filmmakers take making movies seriously. You walk on a Scorsese’s set, you know not to walk in front of the actor's eye line. You come on a Spielberg’s set, you don't walk in front of the actor's eye line. You walk on Coppola, Clint Eastwood, Chris Nolan, Tarantino or even Wes Craven’s sets, and you don't walk in front of an actor's eye-line. The reason why is because you do not want to disrupt and actors performance, even for a moment, and take the audience out of the film. It is rude and disrespectful to an actor, and shows that you are not serious about the film or your craft.
And I know that Bale and McG are only making a film about robots that take over the world, not King Leer. But guys who are the big shots, the top guys in this town, treat everything they work on seriously and try to do their best work, and guys who hope to be big someday also take making films seriously, even if they are about ridiculous subject matter. That is how you get to the top, but treating it more than just playing pretend. It’s like being a fucking pro athlete and telling him to relax because it is just a game. Yeah, it’s just a game, but it is a game they have dedicated their life to playing and are now getting paid millions. It also takes more dedication and devotion than I think many of us can fathom. So you can understand why an athlete can get emotional during a game, just like I can understand how and actor can get emotional while on set.
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But is still happy to post stories about this..!! Oh the Irony!
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You mouth breathing Neanderthal. Tell me right now where i said we should treat him like a princess? You can't; because i didn't say it. He should get his shit straightened out just like anyone else who snaps and does something stupid. What shouldn't happen is the whole GD thing being playing out on gossip sites like some lowest common denominator reality show. The same goes for your hypothetical security guard. It's not a matter of me feeling sorry for Bale, it's a matter of shit not playing out the way it should. There's no need for any of this. Especially not here, on a news site/review site. If it gets to Youtube, so be it. That's an entirely different matter.
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"It’s like being a fucking pro athlete and telling him to relax because it is just a game." Which is why I laugh at fucking idiots who cry when their sports team loses. The fact that these people take the third sequal in a series of films about time travelling killer robots this serious is EXACTLY why people are fucking laughing at them. I've seen mentally challenged homeless people intently playing with their feces. I don't care how seriously they take it, it's still ridiculous AND funny. "You walk on a Scorsese’s set, you know not to walk in front of the actor's eye line. You come on a Spielberg’s set, you don't walk in front of the actor's eye line. You walk on Coppola, Clint Eastwood, Chris Nolan, Tarantino or even Wes Craven’s sets, and you don't walk in front of an actor's eye-line." Only we are on a McG set. Yes, the auteur behind the remakes of shitty 70's tv shows and unwatchable schmaltzy low grade trash like We Are Marshall. If Bale took his fucking craft so seriously, he wouldn't be whoring himself out to giant piles of trash like this film.
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I'm sighing because I think the shitstorm this "incident" has caused is ridiculous and people need to move the fuck on
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...One of the few things I actually dislike about the trailer is the shitty, bad Mauro Fiore imitation photography. I think Bales just shitty because he knows Worthington is going to be walking away from the film a star, while he will always be Batman and that guy who gets really skinny.
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Got anything funnier in the world of entertainment to link us to?
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If it was a mall security guard yelling at a kid, nobody would care. The presence of this thread IS Bale's preferential treatment. Just admit it's your evening's entertainment and move on.
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but people are still making WAAAAAAAAY too big of a deal out of this, I mean come on people....
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The guy walking in between the shot is the unprofessional one. Fucking pussy fuck. Alex Ferguson has lost it heaps of times, threw a shoe once which was well documented. Anyone give a fuck? No, because he gets the job done.
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are you fucking serious? "because he knows Worthington is going to be walking away from the film a star, while he will always be Batman and that guy who gets really skinny." you are a fucking idiot.
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You must be new to the internet. Part time policeman yelling at skateboarding teenager in Baltimore was a meme sensation a year or so back, replete with remixes. "Just admit it's your evening's entertainment and move on"....Of course it's our evenings entertainment...What else would it be? I'm not the one crying about poor, poor Martyr Bales right to privacy. Amazing G, thats what happens on slow news days. Seen the main page lately? Some guy might be writing some film that might have Gyllenhall in it which could be about the moon or something...Not quite as diverting as nerd god movie star goes expletive crazy. Not to mention how fun these talkbacks are.
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I suppose James Camerons an idiot then too? Ever seen Worthington at work? The guys gonna be huge. For a month or two.
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First, the DP will probably be the one losing the most here. Bale's not gonna lose any roles because of this. The DP mght never work again in a major film (I guess he won't be the director of photography on Will Smith's 20000 leagues under the sea). Second, I understand that Bale has warned the DP not to do this, and it was a major, MAJOR faux pax on him, but you do not lose your temper and drop F bombs and threat to resort physical violence for five minutes. If I did this at my job, no matter what the other person did, I'd get my ass fired as well. If the CEO of the company, who gets as much $ as Bale does, did that, he WOULD be asked to leave the company. It does NOT justify his actions. You don't do this at other people. He should have spoken with McG and told him to fire the guy, and explained what happened. The delays alone would have the DP fired for SURE. Which brings us on the last subject, McG. This guy is pathetic. He is the FUCKING DIRECTOR! What did he mean, he didn't see it? He was somewhere else?! On the most important scene in the film?! Are you kidding me? This guy directs bullet time scenes and music videos. The fact Bale calls him McG on the set just show how little respect he has. It's like Marlon Brando calling Frank Oz Mrs Piggie. McG is the one to blame here, he should have put his DP under control, if he knows he does that. He worked with the guy before. McG and Shane are over. Bale should watch his step, next time, the DP might have a gun. And, as a public person, you do NOT go on insane rage periods when you know microphones are all around.
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...Anyone give a fuck?" No. Because no one knows who the fuck he is.
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do you know Bale? Then how the fuck does it matter? Are you guys like those mainstream bitches who if they had enough culture to check out a Herzog film they'ed think Klaus Kinski is a maniac and no one would want to work with him again? Thing is they would want to work with him again. Bale is the same way but Bale was in the right. Fucking pussies. Klaus Kinski to all accounts was a right cunt, but people would still work with him. You think directors are going to go "ohh Christian Bale is so mean, I don't want to hire him because he might hurt my feelings" fuck off. This isn't a school playground. Good directors will take cunts, drug addicts, whatever, as long as the product works.
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That's because you're a fucking idiotic american cunt. Hundreds of millions of people know who he is. Somehow you don't so apparently no one cares. You're looking like a complete fool so might aswell shut the fuck up.
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You're taking Harrys word for it that this was the most important scene in the film. Which is definatly bullshit. I would wonder about CEO's getting called on Rages though. I doubt it. I've seen fucking supermarket managers raging at staff while I've been waiting in line, so I can't imagine the head of Walmart being reprimanded for this. Not to mention you have producers like Scott Rudin spitting on staff and tossing paper weights into their heads.
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unless you can honestly 100% say you've never lost your temper and shouted or cussed at someone then you're being a hypocrite if you think this is a big deal
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but the thought of screaming at a parent gasp and recoil in shock... maybe I'm old fashioned and shit. Other than that I agree with some of what you said but yelling at your parents... Goddam!... Wrong!
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Hollywood and movies don't work like this, Bale is intergral to this production and Warner Bros in exec's eyes. He could of beat the shit out of the guy and he'd still get to do the sequel. Don't confuse a standard company for the way film works. It's not just to say Hollywood lives in a different landscape, but sometimes you would let things go because the product and money matters in the end.
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Except I'm not American. I'm British. But nice try. Just because I can't place the name of some obscure english man, I'm a complete fool? Who is he? What did he accomplish? What did he invent? Never heard of anything important related to him. " Klaus Kinski to all accounts was a right cunt, but people would still work with him." Actually, no, people didn't want to work with him, thats why he took on so many shitty roles over his career. Try reading his autobiography, you oh so cultured man. Also, you're going to compare Bale and McG to Kinski and Herzog? Why not just piss on his grave while you're at it.
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Again G, I'm a fucking nobody. Me cussing and yelling and throwing a fit, unless spectacularly funny (like said security guard and skateboarder) is not lulz worthy. Major hollywood douche bag, on the other hand is. Bale is not like normal people. Thats why he gets paid millions of dollars to say shit on camera. This shit works both ways. You don't become a celebrity so you can have your right to privacy protected.
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It’s like that time Brando had to work on that gangster film in the 70’s that Paramount thought was going to be a dud. The one with a cast of no-names (well, the guy from TO KILL A MOCKING BIRD was in it, and so was b-actors Sterling Hayden and Richard Conte) and it was directed by this no name that used to work for Roger Corman and made that dud Finian’s Rainbow. No one should have taken the eye-line serious on that set. What was the name of that movie again?
Yes, people freaking out about there sports team losing is ridiculous, but an athlete getting paid millions upset about losing is another thing. They have spent years training themselves, pushing themselves and competing against other people who want their spot. It is completely understandable how they would look at it as more than a game.
Another thing is you can’t just turn on and off passion, as much as people like to think so. One of the traits that make the actors, writers and directors who reach the top get there and stay up there is their dedication and their consistency. You put out only 50% on a bad movie, than it is very unlikely you’ll put out 100% on a good movie. Its like working out or practicing before a sporting event. If you don’t push yourself during your practice or workouts, how are you going to push yourself during the big game? Well that also works for movies; you don’t push yourself even on the less important ones, how are you going to turn it up a notch on the big ones. Just magically flick a button.
I am an editor now, and I am not going to pretend I am some big shot or claim I work on big movies - far from it. But I have worked on some very good projects, just like I have worked on some crappy features. And while I might not have put as much effort in the crappy ones as the ones I cared about, I treated both films seriously and tried to do the best job I could. And if someone broke one of the taboos of the editing room, even during the crappy movies, I let them know about it.
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What the fuck are you talking about? The studio KNEW The Godfather was going to be a massive fucking hit, thats why they were nervous about Coppollas choices, and made Brando screen test so much. They also continually complained about his choice of DP. Again, thats Coppollas set, and people take it seriously because he demands it. Bale knew he was going to work on a McG film. A McG sequal to a sequal to a sequal. It's not even remotely comparable to a film featuring Brando and based on one of the best selling books of its time. Also your confusing passion with being a cock head. Thats not passion. Thats some arrogant wanker moaning and bitching because about his precious craft, and demanding attention because its clear his director doesn't give a fuck. Yes, I also laugh at sportsmen crying when they lose. If Bale wants professionalism, don't sign on for McG movies. Real fucking simple.
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I also make independent low budget movies. I also take them very seriously. I've worked as a director on my own movies and as an actor on other movies.
And I must say, if an actor can't handle someone passing his eye sight then he's in the wrong profession. "You never walk in their eye line"? Fucking please. Actors are the lowest on the totem poll if you ask me, they're/we're monkeys playing make beleive. It's not deep, it's not an art, it's pretending to be someone else. And if you can't handle that because you're actually on a set, then you're not an actor. -
I’m not trying to rip into you WhinyNegativeBitch, but one of the things that makes these guys successful is the fact they take it all very seriously. The don’t just flick a fucking “only a McG movie” switch and than flick it back when they are working with Herzog. They are CONSISTENTLY trying to do good work. That is why the eye-line in important, no matter which movie. I worked on a b-movie where they yelled at a member of the crew for constantly getting in a person’s eye-line.
And when I was working on a b-movie, you can tell who is going to make it by watching how they acted on set. The actors who memorized all their lines and put a lot of thought in it despite the subject matter; the grips and electrics that didn’t talk when the camera was rolling just because it was only a b-movie; and the PAs who treated this as a learning experience and not a waste of time because it was going directly to video; these where the people you knew who were going to be working in the big studio films.
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...As an example. A film where the on set crew fucked around and didn't give a shit about what they were shooting. Remember when the star of that flick, Ford, threw a hissy fit for the lack of professionalism? Oh...wait...No, because he thought it was a pile of shit too. He just did his job and read his fucking lines and didn't cry like a little girl when the crew laughed at chewbacca.
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"The don’t just flick a fucking “only a McG movie” switch and than flick it back when they are working with Herzog." Except...when they do. You can watch Pacino and Deniro sleep walk through tons of junk if you'd like. Or Nicholson, phoning it in when he feels like it. Or Norton, who if someone irritates him, grows a silly moustache and sleeps through his lines. Again, if Bale was looking to do consistantly good work, he wouldn't sign on to a McG film. Thats the thing. If this was Daniel Day Lewis going ape shit bananas on There Will Be Blood, it would be funny, but people would cut him some slack. This is an actor whoring himself out to a killer robot movie, and as a result, everyone is laughing at him.
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As I said before, I am not defending Bale actions here, but the idea that the eye-line is unimportant is just ludicrous. It is a sign of professionalism. I work as an editor now - if a director touches one of the buttons on my computer I basically slap his wrist. No one touches the editing counsel except for me or one of my assistance. Why? Because it is post-production etiquette. That is the same thing as crossing in front of someone’s eye-line. It might seem ridiculous and silly to those outside of the business, but it is one of the things I have discovered that separates the real professionals in this business from those who are not as serious about it as me.
Is there obvious exceptions to this rule? Yes, obviously with a place as chaotic as a film set there is going to be people crossing in front of the eye-line, no matter what, and you expect your actors to be able to handle that. But the question is it a rare occurrence or is it common occurrence. If it is common, I imagine that is not a very professional set and I doubt I would have much confidence in the film being made.
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You're right about that, very, very few people have confidence in this film being of decent quality. Again, another reason this tape is so funny. Especially when you hear McG "Huh? What happened? I was counting my money, sorry."
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Feb 04, 2009 4:30:48 AM CST
"This is an actor whoring himself out to a killer robot movie"
by continentalop
No, this is an actor still trying to establish himself as a major box-office star. He has yet to get himself cemented in the Nicholson, DeNiro, Pacino class. Maybe after he has established himself long enough and he feels safe in his career he will start to sleepwalk more. I mean, we are talking about Bale being a $20 a film star here. I can see why he is a little worried about his performance and how well he is received even in a silly movie about killer robots.
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Feb 04, 2009 4:30:49 AM CST
"This is an actor whoring himself out to a killer robot movie"
by continentalop
No, this is an actor still trying to establish himself as a major box-office star. He has yet to get himself cemented in the Nicholson, DeNiro, Pacino class. Maybe after he has established himself long enough and he feels safe in his career he will start to sleepwalk more. I mean, we are talking about Bale being a $20 a film star here. I can see why he is a little worried about his performance and how well he is received even in a silly movie about killer robots.
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Hey Harry weren't you the one that had the pictures of the candidates of who would be Batman and the copy of Bale's was shirtless and autographed? I'm sure it's coincidence.
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He could have at least used his Batman voice when having his menstral moment!!
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I am not disagreeing with you that it isn't funny, or that Bale doesn't look like an asshole. He very well could be but this could also be a one-time event. My disagreement with you is that A) What he is arguing over is not completely frivolous (he is a professional actor who takes his job serious); and B) that this makes McG look worse in my opinion than it does Bale.
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"No, this is an actor still trying to establish himself as a major box-office star." and yet he can't handle someone walking through his eye line. Maybe he just doesn't have what it takes. I wonder if anyone ever walked through Eastwoods eye line? Or how many times he went ape shit crazy at crews on spaghetti westerns...Probably never. Thats why he's a real movie star well into his 70's, while Bale will be forgotten.
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... Fuck! What the fuck is it with you? I was looking at the light. IT'S FUCKING DISTRACTING! No, no, fuck! What don't you fucking understand? Think for one fucking second! I'm gonna fuckin' kick your fuckin' ass! Seriously man, you and me, we're fuckin' done professionaly.
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While this sort of thing is shocking for people outside Tinseltown, it's pretty much standard operating procedure around these parts. I used to work for a guy who managed an actor who was getting a tad senile. He often ordered food, forgot what he ordered and then tore the wait staff a new one when they brought what he actually ordered instead of what he thought he ordered. He got really mean and everyone around just sat in terrified silence as the waitress was reduced to tears. As this actor is surrounded by yes men, nobody says anything. I was the only one who ever had the balls to stand up to him but eventually I gave up because the actor would FORGET that we talked or that the event even happened! Anway...my point is that while bad behavior is not the norm in Hollywood, it certainly is prevalent. People get away with it because the people around them are afraid of losing their jobs. As for this incident, Bale had a point but he shouldn't have been making it and not in such a harsh manner. It should have been the AD or McG. But I guess they were just too scared or tired or were just waiting for it to blow over. who knows? Who cares? Hope the movie turns out okay.
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I have seen a project manager go on a bezerk rant like this, at about 5 PM. At 7 PM his manager asked him to come to his office. He was cleaning his desk 15 minutes later. He brought a LOT of $ into the company.
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you are so perfect,so civilized,so out of human frailties,so comfortable with your big human selves,that you think that you have the absolute right to judge,criticize,characterize and condemn people because they have the bad luck to be celebrities??
yes bale shouldnt have react like that,it isnt the most correct way to express your dissatisfaction with someone,BUT on the other do you know what really happened there and what caused his outburst? are you so sure you wouldnt have reacted like that?
moreover does he do this all the time in all his films? was it a random bad moment of his life or is this a trademark of his character? how would you react in his place? or havent you ever reacted like that in your life,when an idiot whom you work with,is unprofessional and ruins your work? oh yes i forget you are all saints...
how the frak do you know that bale is a monster who beats his mother and sister, if you dont know him personally and havent ever work with him? how the frak can you judge him only by an mp3 file? oh yeah you are the audience,the people who send the artists,their idols,their gods to paradise,as easy as they send them to hell if they,god forbid,behave like humans...
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I can't stand his Welsh/American accent. He just made a Prima Donna twat of himself.
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"how the frak do you know that bale is a monster who beats his mother and sister, if you dont know him personally and havent ever work with him? how the frak can you judge him only by an mp3 file?" We don't. We also don't know that the DP is fucking useless & that Bale had a right to act like a cunt. Which is what is being unfairly insinuated in the article.
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It gets worse! He doesn't have a Welsh accent. He has an English accent & refers to himself as English. He was just born in Wales 'cause his dad was stationed there in the RAF. I'm a fan of his, (hence my name) but he's weird. He doesn't stop people calling him Welsh because he thinks it "sounds poetic." So, he's an Englishman, who lets people call him Welsh & speaks with a fake American twang. That's pretty fucked up.
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Can't all you frakking pieces of frak just see where I'm coming from? I demand respect while maintaining a non-swear word dialogue! Frak you people!
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with some other actor and not the fanboys favorite "I have only one voice Bale", I BET hell would break here at AICN with Harry writting a bigger than life rant about how actors act like twats on sets and have no respect for the ones who work hard behind the scenes. But... you know, a WB movie, bringing the site to the sets, exclusives... what a sell out. No excuses for Bale acting like a twat. I will wait for another actor having a bust on the set, someone in a FOX movie... let's wait for the soulfull and so understanding defense...that will never come.
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frak frak frak.This is the worst, most embrassaing talkback ever.I apologize to all that read this for having posted in this piece of shit.
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if you listen to the mp3 carefully,you will hear bale yelling,that this guy,Bruce the DP,has interrupted the scene more than once.
frak harry's statement,just listen to what bale shouts in the mp3.he doesnt give me the impression of a primadona,but rather a processional actor who got fed up with an amateur DP.
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and I never will now.Fucking nerds...
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I dont understand why so many of you cannot wrap your brains around the concept of being truly professional and even semi-tolerant of other peoples mistakes.
Im talking about Bale totally losing his mind over something trivial. Thats right, in the scope of what was going on his reaction far outweighed what is trivial in comparison to real issues.
Reasons to degrade and humiliate someone like Bale did:
1) You find them in bed with your wife.
2) Their incompetence results in your loss of a body part.
3) They have intentionally hurt a family member.
Outside of these things there is NO REASON for Bale to have talked to this person in public like he did. Yes we all have bad days, yes there are times when most of us can be dicks but never have I heard something so grossly ridiculous as Bales rant over something so trivial. Yeah, trivial...the shot can be done 10000 times until he is happy. -
that the real responsible for this unpleasant event,is MCG.if you call yourself a director and cant control your set and your cast/crew,then you dont deserve to work in a movie.
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are what happens in the locker room stays in the locker room. what happens on the movie set should stay on the movie set. unless there is someone who really hates bale and thinks he is an asshole. that is why this thing got released. the stories about cameron were legendary. including the one where he blew his top when an accountant from fox with orders to get costs down on the movie was sent packing but not before Jim edged this guy on to the precipice of an empty water tank with a 100ft drop. cameron told this guy to fuck off off his film set and to never set foot on his film set again and called him a fucking jerk. disgruntled footballers use thier agents to write letters demanding transfers. Irish football legend Shay given used his agent Micheal Kennedy to release a letter demanding that his client Shay given be transfered from the shambollically run newscatle united to Manchester City football club. which is run by the Saudis. The Roy keane interview which hastened his departure from the club was a two hour interview. editied down on Alex fergusons orders. the club had just been bought by Malcolm glazer and his two sons. Keane in the interview had a go at everyone, players, supporters, the board and the manager. In english football. there is a golden rule. you do not cross sir alex ferguson. and keane did and he was sacked.
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....to speak that way. You find Mutha F*cking Snakes on your Plane.
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FRAK Harry's statement!You hear that Harry. Frak you from the fans!Boy am I bored.
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its trivial when someone ruins for the 10th time the most important scene of your movie?????? JESUS CHRIST
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I'm not saying it was unjustified either. Over the top? Absolutely. I just think it's unfair for Harry to back Bale, dragging the DP's name through the mud in the process, based on something he'd heard from an un-named source,not fact. Particularly as the source says nothing that can't be heard in the clip. It's biased & not cool. Nor is it news.
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Technically speaking, this guy is distracting Bale while he's trying to save the last remnants of humanity from total annihilation. He is dealing with FUCKING CYBORGS THAT LOOK LIKE PEOPLE walking into his camp and blowing people away, and this asshole is wandering around checking the lightbulbs.
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atmosphere on clints movies is very relaxed.
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If you were working in construction and every time one of your co-workers fucked something up, like say the way a wall is being constructed, so you had to keep redoing it over and over instead of moving on to another part of the project, I think you might finally lose your cool and freak out.
I am not saying that is what happened, but that is what could have happened. Right now we don't know if this DP just accidentally got in front of Bales eye-line on one or two occasions (which is a no-no but completely understandable mistake, and might even have been necessary if it was an important scene and he say something that had to be fixed quickly) or if he was constantly getting in Bale's eye-line despite Bale asking him not too. Either the DP or Bale could be at fault here, but one person certainly has some blame and that is McG. -
Damn You Michael Bay
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Oh, now its 10 times. Im sure you can back that up. So, lets assume it was 10 or even 20. That deserves the tirade Bale unleashed? Something that can be done over and over and over until everyone feels that it is just right IS trivial. It wasnt something that had one chance to be done properly like a moon landing.
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…Harry, you know what? That person who happened to be on set is just as trapped in her subjectivity as any listener of that audio. Sure, she knew the context, lalala, but her positive judgment on Bale, while steeped in actual contact and experience with the actor, is just as incomplete and untrue an opinion as anyone's. Only Bale can know Bale (even though anger can cloud judgment).
Truth is: eye of the beholder. I find it sickening that a great number of people seem to think they can judge any stranger they see on a TV screen, even though I'm prone to the sickness. It's the old objectification principle of all other subjects but ourselves, well explored by Jean-Paul Sartre and vulgarized by Paul Auster. The cultural (or subcultural) roots of this phenomenon go deep, the result of a society obsessed and distracted by images (which makes neurological sense but still). And people in need of some existential grounding, even an illusionary one.
A wardrobe malfunction, an on-set rant, a flying telephone, a shaven head, a lesbian affair... Same shit, different day. People should learn to judge themselves before they start trashing others but then again, if that moral principle where a law, we wouldn't have the plurality of democratic opinions or the First Amendment. In that spirit, it is entirely up to you if you choose to comment or not, release the story or axe it. Some better angels can become demons that bite you in the ass, as demons love to do.
Still, people think they own celebrities' private lives and should have their voyeuristic access because those celebrities are paid so godamn much to just “act out.” An other corollary of modern objectification is a warped sense of property, through cash paid to see the artistic works. I find an artist's only valid expression is in her works, not her private life. Now we know why Kubrick went into hiding. Now Salinger doesn't seem so much like a crazed, paranoid ermit. Brangelina are moving to France for just that reason and Johnny Depp stays there for the vineyards...
And just to disclose: I really don't get the credit/ admiration Christian Bale gets as an actor. He hasn't wowed me since American Psycho and that movie was unfortunately far below the level of his acting. That doesn't mean his private life should be dissected out of context and ignorance. I will say, however, that this rant made me laugh thoroughly, so I would like to thank all of those involved in creating it, even inadvertently so.
Is McG short for McGuffin? Because it does sound like he's the BS pretext for a director... Shit... now I've just contradicted my whole rant. Only human. Terminator salivation is upon us. Let's drool in anticipation and cry after the fact. Tears of joy, tears of pain, we will only know later this year...
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Go fuck yourself with a Saya, and find another website, if you hate Americans so much.
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judge him for being Welsh. Let's be honest here, these people are spoken of in open conversation less often than the C.H.U.D.s. Seriously, think about it. When was the last time you used the word 'CHUD'? A year ago? 2 years ago? Now when was the last time you said the word 'Welsh'. When did Catherine Zeta Jones become famous? 1992? That was probably the last time anyone, including the Welsh, spoke the word out loud.
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some little meak fellow stumbling around poking at lightbulbs while Christian Bale is getting all huffy and trying to maintain the utmost emotionality. It would make brilliant little comedy skit.And you are all dumbasses for debating this shit that will definitely have no affect whatsoever on Christian Bale, the new Terminator movie, Harry Knowles, or me.I personally have decided to post to tell you guys I hate you all.Except Danny of course, who I believe has posted once above.
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Sure people get pissed and angry but there are ways of handling issues that are proper and professional. Hanging someone out to dry like Bale did is not one of them. Bale could have easily pulled McG or the DP aside and tore them a new A-hole in private without making himself look like a dick and embarrasing the DP in front of his peers. No excuse for it. I agree McG should have had a handle on this BEFORE it came to such a head but again....Bale went WAYYYYY overboard.
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no they didn't. They were seriously worried about it, because of a string of Mafia films tanking just before it. It's in The Kid Stays In The Picture- if Evans can be trusted.
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You lot sure ain't getting an invite to the set of Terminator Salvation Part 2 The Revenge. Well played Harry.
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If George Clooney was on the set at the time he would have gone straight for Bale and told him 'You do not talk to people like that'. Bale is no gentleman. It annoys the fuck out of me; all these people sticking up for him are probably the same people that said Tom Cruise 'overreacted' when that joker sprayed water in his eyes. These are the same people that think a mellow person like George Lucas is the very incarnation of Satan himself. Beyond pathetic. I'm offically done with AICN. Bye, fools!
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didnt know we were in a court here,defending or proving bale's gult.
its a figure of speech,but i ll rephrase my sentence so it will make you more happy:
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success.And don't come back yodalovesyou.
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...he ruined bale's scene more than once,during the filming of the movie..
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this is the worst fucking TB in a long time. On every side. I also apologise for posting in it.
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They also mention Paramount's nervousness in Easy Rider & Raging Bulls, The studio actually wanted it to be a contemporary movie, set in the 70s with hippies and such, and starring Ernest Borgnine as the Godfather.
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Everytime he fluffs his lines, he should threaten to kick his own ass.
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he should have smashed the guy's head.i mean it was funny,but the victim of the joke,tom cruise in this instance,doesnt have to find it funny too,especially when he is with his girlfriend and is happily to answer questions to the so-called interviewer.
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Don't fuck with its creation. Bale was cooking up an emotional roller coaster, and this fucking jerk and his lamp poured in too much salt.
- Lost Jarv I went with Easy Riders, Raging Bulls, but that could be just as much bullshit as Evan's account. "If George Clooney was on the set at the time he would have gone straight for Bale and told him 'You do not talk to people like that'." BULL FUCKING SHIT. Clooney would have gone straight to him and knocked him the fuck out. ominus - No, Bale being a douchebag ruined the take. Thats why he's never gonna be an A list star. Also this is the best talk back in ages. Accept it and move on. -
Who says he didn't take McG aside? He might have but nothing ever happened.
Once again, I am not saying Bale isn't an asshole. He might very well be. Be I see two things here:
A) The DP has been constantly fucking up Bale's eyeline despite being told not and McG has done nothing to stop it or;
B) Bale freaks out for no reason at all and McG does not put a stop to that either.
The one who looks the worst in this to me is McG. If Bale is an asshole McG should have put his foot down and asserted command of his set once he started mouthing off, and if this DP has been fucking up constantly than McG should have either got him under control or canned him before Bale felt like he had to go into a hissy fit. -
i believe he gets angry with himself.
dont u get angry with yourself, when u dont succeed at something important at repeated tries becayse of your own fault?
i do when i cant get in my bed the super hot pussy i want,because i am not the super cool guy he wants.
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That stands for Kentucky Fried Hate people. Now stop fucking arguing over something that has no consequence in your lives and start doing something productive.Like telling people how stupid they are like me! Yaaaaay!
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You do realize you wrote "i do when i cant get in my bed the super hot pussy i want,because i am not the super cool guy HE wants." Emphasis on He wants. I imagine this is a typo, because if not I am afraid to see the type of pussy you want.
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He just kept talking and feeding into Bale, who was obviously upset and at one point seemed to be calming down. The context doesn't really surprise me. At the same time, it is fascinating especially how Bale practically runs the set ("Lets go again!"). Still, I'm seeing "Terminator: Salvation," I think Bale's great, and the DP probably learned a thing a or two from the experience.
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yeah its a typo,i realised it when i posted the comment,but i cant reedit it.damn talkback system. ;)
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This might be a sign that I should go to bed. At least now I will not have images of strange hermaphrodites in my head. As for the rest of you...You and me are done, professionally. Assholes.
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that bale,harry,MCG,WB studio,even the movie,is going to be affected by this.Life just keeps moving on.
we are just bored and we dont have anything better to do (still searching for hot pussies,FEMALE ones),and this thing with bale is just too hilarious to ignore.
ps.ofc the only thing that is sure to happen,is that Bale is not ever going to work with this DP again in the future.
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I am not a Bale-Hater nor am I an apologist. I like the guy, think he has been great in everything I have seen him in. But I do think his reaction to the DP was over the top.
Yes the DP might have fucked up, Yes this might have been X amount of times he has been told, but that does not excuse Bale's behavior. To be yelled at in front of Co-Workers is demeaning and insulting, Bale should have taken the guy to one side with the director and told him that way -
He SHOT an extra because they were being noisy at a card game at night. Werner Herzog would direct him with a weapon pointed at his head. He would storm out of sets and abuse every single person on the set every day. And everyone consider him a genius.
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and stop giving the TBers a bad name. I'm sure there are plenty of frequenters of thee site that get loads of ass. I'm not even being sarcastic either. That stereotype of the nerds not getting tail is just fucking boring.
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and thank you very much.
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Feb 04, 2009 6:02:45 AM CST
again, coz the point seems to be lost on some people
by the power of greyskull
Bale having a go at the DP, for whatever reason - right or wrong - unfortunate but ultimately forgivable, mostly coz it's so funny
the REAL problem here-
Bale telling off the AD and then proceeding to ignore direction and (rather theatrically) undermine the director ON SET in front of the ENTIRE CREW - that shit is not on
McG may or may not have been trying to defuse the situation at first, but if one of his actors suddenly decides he is running the show now, he fucking well better pull than cunt aside and remind him just exactly who's ACTUALLY in charge here!
ninja, whenever I hear someone invoke the "gets the job done" line, I'm always reminded of Homer Simpson yelling at his TV while watching McGarnagle- "it means he gets results you stupid chief!"
thanks - just when I thought I couldn't get any more laughs out of this! -
he was always treating his female interviewers as whores.
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Feb 04, 2009 6:09:43 AM CST
EVERYTIME I SEE A LIGHT BULB I JUST WANNA CHOKE A BITCH
by bringingsexyback
Too many light bulbs ... not enough bitches!!!!!!
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I'd expect this. This site has widdled down to name dropping and ego boasting. I think what Bale did was OK, I would've gone ape shit on that guy too. But fuck you Harry for looking after your cock cleaning list.
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I loved Bale's work in the 2 Batman films and thought he was damn fine as Bateman in American Psycho, but he ain't a BIG BIG star yet, so he ought to calm down a bit before he gets a reputation as a hissy-fit, prima-donna. Same thing happened to Val Kilmer who was on the verge of HUGENESS after Batman Forever & Heat, then annoyed EVERYONE in Hollywood. Now the only work he can get is as a talking car in a cruddy remake of Knight Rider. And he's fat. Bale beware.
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When Bale gives us an Aguire...Actually, I think Bales given us just as much good work as Kinski I guess. The only thing is Kinski knew that to be truly worthy of anecdote status you needed to take it that little bit further. If Bale had finished his rant with a Brandoesque "I just swallowed a fly. We are done for today", or had actually torn down the lights, I'd respect him more. Next time I suggest biting an extra. I still think McG's response is one of the funnier moments of BaleGate.
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and in Willow!and he was that gay P.I. in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.So you shut your damn mouth.
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Bale Out - RevoLucian's Christian Bale Remix!
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Seriously? You people act like this is the only time a guy has flipped out on a movie set. Have you seen the David. o. Russell thing where he flipped out on Lilly Tomlin? Or how about James "I'm gonna fuck your eyeballs" Cameron? That guy's fucking notorious for flipping out on the crew. Same thing with Michael Bay and Brad Bird. On the set of Mel Gibson's new movie he went completely bugfuck apeshit because he didn't want to do any more takes of a scene. C'man! You guys are supposed to be movie geeks and you never heard of this before? Please stop acting shocked (shocked, I tell you!) because one guy got caught on tape. This Bale shit is no worse than Cameron flipping out on a studio exec and trying to kill him or Mel Gibson losing his shit because he didn't want to do another take because his ankle hurt. Buncha vultures.
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ten foot bat pole. Just like eddie muprhy. John landis was turned into a emotional wreck after working with Eddie Murphy.
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brad bird?
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Harry you fucking suck ass
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enough of this long free lunch for Harry
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but Mr Bale can shriek like a fucking baby..there aint no excuse Harry, you're a fucking fool if you think acting is brain surgery.
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if yes,then that makes him,from a commercal perspective,a superstar in the AAA list.
but from an artistic point of view,he inst there yet,and he is not going to be if he keeps doing not very demanding,as leading role, movies like dark knight and terminator.
he should find a good director,with a mutual understanding and respect,a balanced chemistry and start doing movies with him if he wants an oscar.just take for example dicaprio and scorsese.anyway. -
what happened to Heath Ledger. Bale needs to stop working for a while. He has been solidly working for the past two years. needs to take a break. Batman begins, the machinist, Hard times, and the herzog film plus The dark knight. all in the space of a couple years the terminator saga. he needs to take break.
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berg.
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and a nice slobbery blow job.The po widdle fella's all tuckered out.
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and I love that they always try to avoid this celebrity gossip BS.
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In the time he's made those movies, I've been working every day. In a proper job. With 2 weeks off. For shit wages. If he's tired, I must be fucking exhausted.
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It almost seems that people want to find a reason to hate Bale. Listen to the commentary on Se7en where Morgan Freeman admits to cussing out many a DP. This is mild stuff folks compare to tirads of other actors that not only still have careers but also went on to win Oscars. But for some reason Bale is a target. I find it somewhat laced with envy and actually pretty pathetic news. For those saying there is "no excuse", well there is no excuse for many things we do everyday. I guess we just don't want actors to be human.
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Wow, so many "Bales a bad man because he got angry and yelled at someone for a couple minutes". What the fuck is the matter with some of you? Damn, Eastwood is right, Generation Vagina...
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I don't see many people looking for a reason to hate Bale. Most of us are making fun of it, because it's funny. The odd serious comment against Bale isn't so much against him, but against the ridiculous article, telling us it's all the DP's fault for being shit at his job & not Bale's, because Harry's friend said so. It's wrong to drag a guy's name through the mud like that based on gossip & speculation.
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funny!
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It was a school production of Cats. I was just a young kiddie watching the show. I was hungry so reached for my packet of wine-gums. I tried to be as quiet as possible and even choose wine-gums because once there in your mouth they don't make any noise. They were even in a paper bag so as not to rustle and distract the performers. But no sooner had I popped a soft candy into my mouth and all hell broke loose. The young actor playing Mcavity Cat suddenly leapt down from the stage and called me a c**k sucker. He screamed that he was going to kill me if I didn't stop being so goddamned disrespectful to the actors on stage. I tried to explain that it couldn't have been me who made any noise because they were only wine-gums, but then he went from cat to ape! He lost it completely and scratched out my eyes with the razors he put into his costume for realism (gotta love his dedication to the craft). I was only 8 years old at the time and the actor was 10, but no-one in the audience helped me. They all said I was the one in the wrong by making 'noises' during the play. Even though I'm now half blind, I now appreciate I was in the wrong because actors need to be respected at ALL times. Oh, and that 10 year old Mcavity Cat was played (at least the programme said ) by C. Bale.
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Bale should not take it too seriously and just phone it in since other actors do it too anyway, right? Are you fucking retards??? You're now complaining that an actor is taking his role too seriously? Really???
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Can't believe you didn't honor the guy HARRY!! His movies are what this site used to be all about...
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They think the set and the movie itself revolves around them and their stupid lights. They have no problem holding up a shoot for hours or apparently interrupting an actor's moment so they can get their precious lights looking so fantastic so as to actually steal the light from the actual stars. F*** them all to hades...
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A wine gum is a special treat you get from a drunk, toothless gypsy. Or a fruit flavoured chewy confectionary. Depending on where you come from.
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There have been many times in my visits to Ain't It Cool News that I have been disgusted with the goings on. This would have to be the final straw. Christina Bale was good in Batman Begins and American Psycho. His newest Batman flick was a farce and practically unwatchable. He doesn't sound all that professional to me and I haven't listened to the audio and won't. What worries me is that this site has become bias. I would just like the facts here. News about stuff I didn't know and have the cool stuff get the geek love that it so rightfully deserves. Apparently, that is no longer the case and that is a shame. Goodbye, Harry. I shall not be back. Guess I could read a book instead.
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The internet would be very grateful if you could obtain audio/visual of the above mentioned freak outs. "Eastwood is right, Generation Vagina..." Too true. Bale being a perfect whiny vagina example.
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But AICN doesn't because they only like shit around here.
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Feb 04, 2009 7:05:07 AM CST
When Bale can must half the class of Mark Gormley...
by whinynegativebitch
...I'll let his bitch rants slide. Until then, enjoy a true entertainment professional. http://youtube.com/watch?v=87nkJquHnAU
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WOO HOO!
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Sure context matters, Bale clearly crossed the line. I can practically see the spittle flecks and bulging eyeballs. Dude has issues.
Threatening to kick his ass? The millionaire star threatening to kick the DP's ass? I really hope for his karma that he apologized or something. How could you not feel like a douche after that, even if the recipient was deserving of getting chewed out? Professional my ass. -
he looked like an idiot halfway through, hence going from threatening to kick his ass & have him fired, to saying "You're a nice guy" & saying we're done...professionally." Backing down. But for some reason STILL UNABLE TO STOP FUCKING SHOUTING!!!!!!
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Oh Bale is a good soul now, is he?! It should kept in mind Bale was being a major prick, no matter what the dp was tweaking. Harry, you seem to find this behaviiour acceptable. What if the DP acted like Bale did because Bale was doing something wrong? Would you find that acceptable? Of course not. What also should be kept in mind was that his own mother and sister brought charges against Bale during the time of the Dark Knight premiere in London, for alledgly assualting them. This guy obviously needs some help.
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It's a hissy fit. Nothing more. Actually, it reminds me of my dad, who also has a pretty nasty temper. His bark's worse than his bite however,& maybe Christian Bale's the same. Some people just let off steam that way. The thing I find bad is Harry's biased & plainly unfair write up at the top, potentially fucking up a guy's professional reputation, based on nothing but conjecture & hearsay.
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Feb 04, 2009 7:37:42 AM CST
it's ok Harry we know you love EVERYONE -except George Lucas
by the power of greyskull
this sort of thing doesn't even come as a surprise anymore with this site - hate the game, not the player!
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Maybe it's because the site is dominated by gutless California weasels. Anyone who says they've never yelled at someone like this ONCE in their life has no dick. If you don't occasionally get this angry, you must not care what you're doing, or you must have infinite patience for other people's stupidity making more work for you [which amounts to not caring about what you're doing in any event]. I know that Californian meetings resemble silent pilates workout sessions, and maybe that's why you're shocked, but in New York if someone fucks up badly enough they get yelled at. Those are the breaks. And btw, I also side with Harry on the mother/sister thing, because if a former child actor says, "I hate my family and want them to stay the fuck away from me," I assume the child actor is absolutely, positively in the right. Do I know every detail of that situation? Nope. Doesn't matter.
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I think this talkback is full of IRON MAN fans who didn't think that film got the respect it derserved. Otherwise, I don't understand all the anger. People explode on film sets ALL THE TIME. Sets can be extremely tense, especially multi-million dollar projects. It's just not always recorded and put on TMZ. That's it. Loosen up on Bale and on the DP. Nobody got killed.
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SERIOUS BUSINESS
"The scene in question, was a very emotional and tough scene between Christian Bale and Bryce Howard. A scene that required soul bearing and a deep level of immersive concentration."
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I was fired from my job last November because someone complained to my boss about me concerning something that wasn't true.......so he fired me, rather than ask for my side of the story (which would have exonerated me, I'm sure). I learned a very valuable lesson from that.....ALWAYS get everyone's side of the story before taking action against someone!
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The DP was warned multiple times about his actions. He didn't listen. Bale takes his work very seriously, if he didn't he'd be cheating the audience. Doesn't matter that the film features "Terminators", it's still serious business -- keeping it in context, after all, it's art -- and Bale is trying to do his best for the audience. Still, Bale should publically apologise to the DP. The threatening behaviour was uncalled for. Anyway, this happens all the time on film sets.
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WE ALL ALREADY KNEW WHAT HAPPENED...IT'S ALL VERY CLEAR ON THE RECORDING...MCG DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM, THE PRODUCERS DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM, THE STAR DID...AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT HIS COMMITMENT TO HIS ARTFORM, WHATEVER, IT'S FUCKING TERMINATOR NOT SHAKESPEARE...HE OVERREACTED, HE THREATENED TO QUIT THE FILM OVER A GUY WALKING AROUND IN THE BACKGROUND OF THE SET, IF THAT'S NOT DIVA BEHAVIOUR I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS.
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He wasn't yelling at some poor old random extra or an assistant for bringing him cold coffee, but at the DP for being crap at a job he's paid very well to do. Who in case with a production as huge as this is supposed to be not only professional, but the BEST, and know his way around actors and let them do their job properly.
DP is the third most important man on the set after the producer and the director, so he was very least a peer on the level of importance.
Look at it this way: it's very assholish for a customer to yell at a waiter at a restaurant, but if Gordon Ramsay hires you over 100 applicants, and you repeatedly make the same mistake over and over, you can bet your ass you'd be yelled at, if not fired. Because you failed to live up to the expected standards, for not being professional and wasting the space of someone who wouldn't make those mistakes. In this case it's not just reputation on the line, but millions of dollars. -
will be far more entertaining than the actual film.
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"Otherwise, I don't understand all the anger." The only anger is coming from the retards trying to defend Bale from being made a laughing stock of. " keeping it in context, after all, it's art" LOL. No, dude, no its not.
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Feb 04, 2009 7:59:42 AM CST
Is there an MP3 of the Bale Remix posted anywhere besides YouTub
by spyguy
Stupid content-blocking software trying to make me actually do some work...
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was on so many drugs?????
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When Bale asked McG "Hey, are you gonna say something to this prick?" McG was supposed to look at the DP and ask "Shane, did you get in the shot?" and when the DP answered "Yeah, I was moving the lights, but..." McG was supposed to say "Well, don't fucking do it again." That "I didn't see it happen" shit is totally fucked.
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Phantom Menace footage???
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...David Tattersall...? This guy shot swing vote and semi pro. Bizarely I saw both of them side by side at the video store today.
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Does anyone still think he's totally innocent in whatever happened betwenn him and his mom/sister last summer?
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no excuse for this. None. There's also no excuse for THIS: "I know this because I happen to be somewhere where someone that was there that day and for the shoot is." Harry, I had a seizure trying to make sense of that sentence. And, yes, it's cool news related to geekdom. i'm not sure why you like to place yourself above this stuff. you are not.
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"his mom/sister ". Come on, he may have a temper on him, but there's no need to accuse him of being inbred:-).
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That was a rumor that was presented on this site back in '98 as fact, when we know the problem with the film wasn't that they shot blurry footage, it was that they shot wooden footage.
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Bale's reaction was wrong, no arguments about it. Harry, you're an ass for even trying to defend his actions. Pissed? Sure he can get pissed. But threats of violence, his 4 minute rant? Unacceptable in any professional environment. You just don't talk to people that way. End of discussion.
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but now that I think of it, if your mom happens to be your sister, that can make you preaty loopy. Look at Jack Nicholson!
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when he was on At the Movies? Who knows, maybe he did.
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Thank you Haryy for posting this comment/statement/OP ED (if you will).
First of all...look at this way..
those "Angry People" e-mailing you and berating you for NOT posting what happened to Christian Bale?
Well...FUCK THEM!!!
If those Assholes want gossip or want to hear the shit that was said by Bale when he was pissed off and ripping th DP a new asshole for what he did?
Do to those online gossip sites (I am not going to name the sites...a majority of them are useless and stupid or a total guilty pleasure not to be taken seriously even int he remoteset of instances!!)
Aint IT Cool is NOT a gossip rag site...tue there are often times that this site posts "rumors" or things that may or may not happen in a movie or tv show or on set..but it is never hurtful/malicious.career destroying or absolutely brainless spiteful shit! But, thank you for stating the obvious to all those fucking fucktard haters out there
Funny how this event happened some many months ago during the initial filimg and it is JUST now coming to light...funny how there is only Christian Bales part of the tirade being aired about what transpired (what happened to the events leading UP to the explosion!?!?)...strange how Christian is being villified for blowing up at a person who fucked up what apparently was an important part of the movie and it is sad how certain people who apparently have an Axe to grind are trying to fuck a talented actor over (I wouldn't be surprised if it was the DP or a friend of the DP who realised this audio)
Just remember a few things here people....
Everyone...and I DO MEAN EVERYONE...has a bad day, a time where they blow up at someone and unleash verbally explosive words to express how angry they are at what is happening NO ONE is perfect.
Remember too...this audio is only part of what transpired..there was a before series of events that transpired to piss Mr Bale off
Remember too...this happened to an Actor who is part of a VERY expensive and a HUGE summer movie event that has the potential to be a blockbuster too and from what Harry said this happened during a very key emotional part of the Movie that I for one am really looking forward to seeing
Lets see the average and everyday Joe Schmoe-nonactor averyday guy/girl deal with all THAT pressure, staring in a major and highly anticipated summer movie and have someone fuck up an important part of THEIR work that they have been working hard on for what? 60/90 days of filming?
Take it ALL into context before you judge a good actor like Mr. Bale and what you are hearing
That's all that I am saying
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Maybe he needs to go to Wall Street and talk like that.
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no pussy footin' around, you fuck up my take I will end you, there is nothing more important than a grown man playing pretend in front of a green screen. The DP should have known he'd be im-BALE-d for it.
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Honestly, threats of violence can never, never be excused. How would Harry Knowles feel if Bale ragged on him and made him feel small and stupid in front of an ENTIRE film crew. Harry you're a stupid hypocrite for defending Bale on this. Bale was wrong, why can't you admit it instead of leaping to Bale's defence just because he godammed BATMAN.
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Bale can say whatever he wants on a set and get away with it. I bet if the DP talked to him like that, he'd be fired and never get another job in Hollywood. I understand tempers flare, etc., so it's not entirely unusual for something like this to happen. The thing though is, it doesn't make him look like any less of a douche. It sounds like both him and the DP have "moved" past this, so really I do agree that it is kind of a non-issue at this point.
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This is an issue the director should've taken care of. If the DP was doing something interfering with the performers, his director should have had the balls to tell him to knock it off, or to explain to his performers what was going on.
Personally, I find the idea of a DP changing lighting during shooting pretty exciting, possibly adding a spontaneity to the film.
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And he hits girls. And people with glasses. And his Batman speaks with a lisp.
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Bubblehead! C'mere! Respond, bc I've got something to show you that might interest you...
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This kind of stuff happens on all kinds of sets, no all kinds of workplaces around the world but because it's "Batman star Christian Bale" everyone looses their minds!
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..sounds reasonable and makes sense, but 5 MINUTES OF CONTINUAL VIOLENT VERBAL ABUSE AFTER THE POOR BASTARD SAID HE WAS SORRY? No fucking excuse for all of that out of Bale. You cannot justify what we have all heard with our own ears.
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Regardless of whether Bale is an ass or not, what kind of fucking idiot DP messes with the lights while the scene is being shot? Answer: NONE OF THEM DO.
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bill murray vs. lucy lu in charlies angles, bale vs d.p. on terminator. Dude needs to learn how to lock it down. LOCK IT DOWN.
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After the shitfests that were the 2 Charlies angels movies, we should be thankful that for once there's actually been some drama on a McG set.
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after working with Ang lee. Gilliam worked with Ledger on bros grimm. Gilliam didnt recognise Heath ledger. According to James Schamus, Lee has a very cuddly demeanour, but once he shouts action a more militaristic(less empathic director) emerges. Christina Ricci said that he was like an overly strict Headmaster. If she asked questions she felt like she was punished. by being told to read the script over and over. After working with ang lee. Heath ledger was reportedly shattered. dont just take my word for it. Gilliam and Schamus both say that Brokeback mountain took its toll.
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Bale lost his cool and could have handled the situation more "professionally", but apparently, that way did not work the first couple of times. The DP screwed up again and Bale torched his ass for it, simple as that. I have went off on some of my soldiers before for making stupid mistakes after repeatedly being told not to do something. Could I have done it quietly? Yes, but that's just it, I did it that way the first couple of times, but it did not work.
Sometimes you gotta snap on a muthafucka to get their attention and to make them think before they act. I support Bale on this one and plus I love his delivery, a classic ass-chewing! If I were Bale, I would not apologize for s**t! -
Christian Bale: KICK YOUR FUCKING ASS!Shane Hurlbut: Christian, Christian –Bale: I want you off the fucking set you prick!Shane: Christian, I'm sorry.Bale: No, don't just be sorry, think for one fucking second. What the FUCK are you DOING ? Are you professional or not?Shane: Yes I am.Bale: Do I fucking walk around and rip down –Bruce Franklin: Christian, Christian –Bale: No, shut the fuck up Bruce! Do I want - no! No! Don't shut me up.Franklin: I'm not shutting you up.Bale: Am I going to walk around and rip your fucking lights down, in the middle of a scene? Then why the fuck are you walking right through? Ah da da dah, like this in the background. What the fuck is it with you? What don't you fucking understand?Shane: (inaudible)Bale: You got any fucking idea about, hey, it's fucking distracting having somebody walking up behind Bryce in the middle of the fucking scene? Give me a fucking answer! What don't you get about it?Shane: I was looking at the light.Bale: Ohhhhh, goooood for you. And how was it? I hope it was fucking good, because it's useless now, isn't it?Shane: Ok.Bale: Fuck-sake man, you're amateur. McG, you got fucking something to say to this prick?McG: I didn't see it happen.Bale: Well, somebody should be fucking watching and keeping an eye on him.McG: Fair enough.Bale: It's the second time that he doesn't give a FUCK about what is going on in front of the camera, alright? I'm trying to fucking do a scene here, and I am going "Why the fuck is Shane walking in there? What is he doing there?" Do you understand my mind is not in the scene if you're doing that?Shane: I absolutely apologize. I'm sorry, I did not mean anything by it.Bale: Stay off the fucking set man. For fuck-sake. Alright, let's go again.McG: Let's just take a minute.Bale: Let's not take a fucking minute, let's go again. And have YOU fucking walking in! Can I have Tom put this on please.Franklin: Can I have Tom in wardrobe please? Can I have Tom in wardrobe?Bale: You're unbelievable, you're un-fucking-believable. Number of times you're strolling-a-fucking around in the background. I've never had a DP behave like this. Ehhh…you don't fucking understand what it's like working with actors, that's what that is.Shane: No, that's –
Bale: That's what that is man, I'm telling you. I'm not asking, I'm telling you. You wouldn't have done that otherwise.Shane: No, what it is, is looking at the light and making sure, that you are, ugh –Bale: I'M GOING TO FUCKING KICK YOUR FUCKING ASS IF YOU DON'T SHUT FOR A SECOND! ALRIGHT?Unknowns: Christian, Christian. It's cool.Bale: I'm going to go…Do you want me to fucking go trash your lights? DO YOU WANT ME TO FUCKING TRASH YOUR? Then why are you trashing my scene?Shane: I'm not trying to trash your scene.Bale: You are trashing my scene!Shane: Christian, I was only –Bale: You do it one more fucking time and I ain't walking on this set if you're still hired. I'm fucking serious. You're a nice guy. You're a nice guy, but that don't fucking cut it when you're bullshitting and fucking around like this on set.McG: Alright, I know, let's, let's — (inaudible) –Bale: Yeah, you might get it. He doesn't fucking get it.McG: I got it, I know. I get it. I get it. I know.Bale: You might. He. Does. Not. Get It.McG: We made good adjustments. For real, honestly. I get it. Just walk for five seconds.Bale: No, I don't need any fucking walking. He needs to stop walking.McG: I get that –Bale: I ain't the one walking. Let's get Tom and put this back on and let's go again. Seriously man, you and me, we're fucking done professionally. Fucking ass.
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clint comes up to Bale and say through gritted teeth. "get the fuck off my movie set or ill shove that boom mic up your ass". Bale calms down very quickly.
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People see what they want to see. They can take something out of context and immediately make a judgment, without knowing the entire story. Bale vented his frustration with the DP and because his voice was recorded, here it is all over the internet. And because the internet is what it is, we can even DANCE to it. Only two weekends ago, after watching REIGN OF FIRE with my wife (she hadn't seen it), I commented on Bale's smart career choices. Even REIGN OF FIRE seems better TODAY, in contrast to the disappointments that Hollywood has shoveled our way. You can see Bale's passion in his work...and as a movie fan, I sincerely appreciate that. There's just not enough passion in Hollywood. I'm sure that both Christian Bale and the DP has learned a valuable lesson in all this. Same goes for McG. And so, they can ALL go back to concentrating on the work...and we will all be the better for it.
Now, if only they could all laugh at themselves and release a music video of the Remix. Bale acting tough as nails with the Remix pumpin' would be a hoot!
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I'm sorry but these actors/actresses are a bunch of primadonnas no matter how you spin it Harry. I like Christian Bale's work, but that doesn't mean he isn't guilty of being a cry baby. One thing I have never understood about film is how tantrums are tolerated, whether it be by the director, cast, or crew. I was on set of a Mike Nichols movie in London about 9 years ago and he pitched a fit because there was noise coming from an adjoining set and wrapped work for the day. I was thinking to myself, "what a bitch." In the real world, you pitch tantrums in the workplace, one of two things will happen. The first is you might get your teeth knocked out. The 2nd and most probable will be that you get fired or put on some severe disciplinary action. I'm sorry, just because you are an "artist" doesn't mean the world revolves around you. Mistakes happen. Man up and stop being a cry baby. My experiences with actors/directors has definitely left me not idolizing them.
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It's just funny as hell. Blown out of proportion? Yes. Is Bale nuts? Probably not. Temper problem? Maybe--but I'm guessing Harry is correct and Shane was doing stuff you probably shouldn't be doing at that time. Which is why they are now DONE professionally
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http://tinyurl.com/c5yvjw
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It sounds like he was in a rough patch, and the DP should've known better. Was Bale excessive? Yes. But it also sounds like an incident that could've been avoided, and just wore on Bale's last nerve. Cuz other than this, which happened @ same time as the "incident" w/ his family, I can't recall hearing of less-than-courteous behavior from him on Batman or Terminator. Kinda like how Tom Cruise was "NUTZ" on Oprah, but numerous stories are that he will help "the common folk" when other "commoners" can't be bothered to stop to help change a tire.
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Feb 04, 2009 9:04:17 AM CST
I've lost ALL respect for Bale. What a complete tool.
by harryblackpotter
And his Batman speaks with a lisp!
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That man took it the the fucking EDGE! Maybe Russell and Bale should hook up for a project.
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Feb 04, 2009 9:09:22 AM CST
BALE HAS SET A NEW TONE FOR DISCOURSE IN AMERICAN SOCIETY
by bringingsexyback
And if you ask me - as well you should - it's about time.
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Then what's the problem?
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Feb 04, 2009 9:11:29 AM CST
It's pretty fucking funny how some morons around here...
by motoko kusanagi
...are flipping out just because an actor (sic!) flipped out on a movie set. I guess none of those fucking monkeys who are bitching about Bale's (mis)behaviour have the slightest idea what it is like behind the scenes of ANY movie production or of movie making in general.Go back watching Speed Racer, you monkeys. And please shut the fuck up about Mr. Bale! Thanks.
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If you ask me (and you eventually will) he's nuttier than a Balecake.
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Truthfully, if he had a bad day, those might be mitigating circumstances - if he had flipped out for 10 seconds, or 30 seconds.
This moron freaks out for three minutes. Why do I call Christian Bale a moron, because he has no social skills and behaved unprofessionally.
If he wants to yell, all he needs to do is say, "Shane, let's discuss this outside".
Admittedly, he's not doing fifteen hours of brain surgery. He standing in a costume, wearing makeup, and ACTING!
True, it might be his art, and he may take it seriously, but that gives him NO RIGHT to verbally abuse people and expose them to his insanity.
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This man clearly has anger-issues.
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Feb 04, 2009 9:14:19 AM CST
Btw, Shane Hurlbut (hurl butt?) is the fucking prick here.
by motoko kusanagi
That makes at least two amateurish hackmasters working on T4. Plus PG-13. Great. Just great.
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Clearly his acting is akin to brain surgery and any disturbance of it deserves a tirade on the scale of an 8-year old who just learned the word 'fuck'.
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Feb 04, 2009 9:20:14 AM CST
I'M SURPRISED BY THE ANTI-BALE CONTINGENT AROUND HERE
by bringingsexyback
Considering how any discussion of theater talkers and texters inspires some of the most violent tendencies in you people, you sure don't cut much slack for a guy with a more affecting grievance.
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If Bale had any respect for his director, he wouldn't have embarrassed him by verbally raping his DP. McG did NOTHING to help the situation. He was so out of his depth. This movie won't be any worse than T3, but it's still gonna suck.
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You need to read the brilliant "Easy Riders, Raging Bulls" from Peter Biskind, then maybe you'll get how a movie is being made. Fucking morons.
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Feb 04, 2009 9:24:23 AM CST
EVERYONE HERE MUST JOIN US IN TERMINATOR TB.....
by dannyglovers_dickblood
.....FOR A GOOD TIME. SAY NO TO ROMAN POLANSKI, CHRISTIAN BALE, AND HARVEY FIERSTEIN!
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Seriously, it's time to take fuckin' ass kickin' to a national level.
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Armed with nothing more than THIRD HAND RUMOR, he calls out the Director of Photog to the carpet and accuses him of not knowing how to do his job - states that he has a record of being bad at his job. Then to top it all off, he insinuates that this guy is nothing more than a frustrated Director who is so angry that he's just the DP, that he's going to sabotage every movie he is on by 'tweaking' with lights.
Well done Harry - you dont even KNOW this guy, your 'super secret' source is probably full of shit, and based on nothing more than shadowy rumors, you're going to call out the DP as an amateur. and THEN have the audacity to say "Im above doing what I just did so that's why you wont see me do what I just did on this website."
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Fuck this TB.
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But fix this: "And have YOU fucking walking in!" is actually "And lets not have YOU fucking walking in"
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I seem to remember a certain Coax news item about America's Next Top Model getting a transgender cast member. I suppose THAT was "cool news" and totally worthy of creating a TB. Or how about that lovely review of Sex and the City done by Massawyrm? That was definitely a movie that the AICN crowd gave a shit about and the review was totally unbiased and professional. Right.
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was starring in a play in small theatre. One afternoon. when there was hardly anyone there. just two people. of them started to talk on his mobile phone. this incensed gambon to the point where gambon took a bucked threw it over this astonished audience member. Richard Griffths got so incensed at a man having a conversation on a mobile phone during a play one evening that Griffths roared at this guy to shut fuck up. a got a ten minute round of applause.
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I can just see him bad-mouthing his way around South Park, p**sing everyone off. They gotta do this.
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You should have shut up, you only made it worse.
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People yell at each other like this when you cut them off on the freeway. Or sometimes even if they just THINK you cut them off. I can sympathize with Bale, but it DID seem to go on forever. And I don't think he was too outta line until he physically threatened the DP.
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People yell at each other like this when you cut them off on the freeway. Or sometimes even if they just THINK you cut them off. I can sympathize with Bale, but it DID seem to go on forever. And I don't think he was too outta line until he physically threatened the DP.
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Because we don't want to embarrass our industry friends and lose our access. Remember all those stories about Robert Rodriguez losing the Barbarella remake? You didn't read them here, 'cause he's our buddy!
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The incident took place last July and I remember tara brady from hot press magazine. saying what happens on a set should stay on the set. Why is it being released now. that is the question.
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film studios and certain directors.
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I want to see the footage of Bale with veins in his neck and forehead as he's screaming abuse at the poor guy; with spit flying from his mouth and his face going redder, and redder with 'roid rage.
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Here you go. Thanks for keeping the faith.
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Unless someone is threatening you with bodily harm, there is NO REASON to verbally abuse someone who ultimately is striving for the same goal...a well made movie. As a mid level manager in a non glamourous job, if I or my boss displayed that kind of feedback, we'd be at least suspended for a few days to give us some time to think about how unprofessional we were. As one earlier talkbacker said, Bale was cussing out a guy over a SCENE IN A TERMINATOR MOVIE. I wish some guys at Bank of America or Citibank had went off of somebody before we got in this financial crisis...
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Feb 04, 2009 10:32:53 AM CST
Bale doesn't have to deal with the mundane crap the rest of us d
by yotzvonfrelnik
And as such he should be thankful all the stresses that most of us go through in our mortal lives aren't on his plate every fucking day.
I suck up a lot of rage in a year's time because I'm supposed to be professional. I think someone who earns more in a day than we do in a month ought to be able to cope. Personally I stress and freak out because the emotional domino theory dictates that every time something makes me unhappy I think about all the unhappy aspects of my life and how frustrating it is having to endure. This guy doesn't HAVE to do the 9-5, doesn't HAVE to deal with catching a bus every morning, doesn't HAVE to fret over his income tax, doesn't HAVE to concern himself with how he's going to finance the next dozen dates he goes on or whether he can afford to date period, etc, etc....
If we could remove those worries and concerns from our lives I know we'd sure as hell be happier people and no question! I certainly would.
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Seriously...I thought he meant he was 'mildly' into crystal meth. You know, just a light Tweaker.
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Probably the 100th anniversary Plutonium edition. By then maybe society will also get over itself with the "F" word issue, too.
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That should be what happens when you click on the THX test icon. As far as why it's being released now...I would level a pretty reliable guess that it's happening because Bale pulled his BS on someone who had access to the footage and decided to give him some come comeuppance. What is far more telling about what kind of person he is, far more than the rant, is the fact that every person on the set, including the other actors and the director , was afraid to say *anything* to him. You know what their interactions with him reminded me of? The episode of Twilight Zone where the kid has supernatural powers and his whole family sits around the table wearing shit eating grins while he turns them into clowns and pops the postman into another dimension.
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thats the problem. Someone working on this production thinks this film is a load of shite. thinks the director is weak. thinks bale is a right royal pain in the ass. I have no idea why this is a big story no as the incident took place in june. Unless someone is trying undermine the movie. To trash a dp. might be part of it.
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/film owns your ass
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as the DP, who, granted shouldn't have been moving around.
But look acting is hard for other reasons than it just being hard to act, it's hard BECAUSE there are distractions that come up and you HAVE to stay focused. I good solid actor, SHOULD be able to keep focus regardless of whats going on in the back ground (to a point of course) It's part of what professional acting training teaches you, and the whole thing shines a light on whether he's had any professional training at all. sounded more like a movie start running the show -
...If I go off ballistic at anyone where I work, I mean anyone, even an administrative assistant, intern, mantainance worker, mail clerk, whatever, if I use the epithets Bale used, I'd be canned immediately. But, since Bale is a precious genius, multi-millionaire actor, everyone quivers and he gets a pass. Well, sorry, he doesn't get a pass because we have the internet now and it's a great leveling tool to put arrogant a-wipes like Bale in their respective places, from time to time, anyway.
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I mean he's obviously been asked (probably in a nicer way) to get the fuck out of the scene. That ticked him off, so he decided to play the "who me? - I'm innocent" angle and retaliate via passive aggressive interruptions on the set. He got more than he bargained for by pushing the buttons of a coked-up, roided-up, prima donna who just came off a billion dollar Batman gig.
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I don't know him from Adam but I don't just casually trash the sum total of a human being based on an ugly incident.
Bale could quite possibly be a major asshole. My guess is dude has some underlying issues. But hell, Tom Cruise is despised for stupid things like jumping on couches and promoting Scientology.
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if someone underperforms on a difficult operation. So forgive me for not praising Bale for an utter lack of class.
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...to the rarefied air of a multimillion dollar movie set. Different rules. Different hierarchy. Different universe.
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to post some footage of Indy 4 online his website, spielberg had him fired. he had to hand back the footage and he was erased from the movie and will never work for dreamwork again.
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I think the biggest problem with this site is it has evolved into something mentioned earlier. Harry coddles certain studios, directors, etc., so he can remain in their good graces and receive perks(info, set invites, etc.). I prefer to click on an article here and read if the director is a scumbag or the studio is a bunch of wankers because of what is going on with a certain film. I also want to read an unbiased review. If a movie sucks, I want to know, so I don't waste money on it. Stop kissing so much ass Harry. At least I know now to scratch Bale from my xmas card list this year.
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I asked before most seem unsure but I am going with Fox they are dammed if Warners are going to have another franchise on top of the whole Watchmen debacle. Releasing this for no other reason than to try and destroy Bale and with him the Terminator and Future Batman (there might be a 4th right after the 3rd according to some) Movies. Fuck Rothman is all I have to say.
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Heston, was by all accounts an affable and thoroughly professional actor, who by the 1960's had a say in who directed his pictures. On MAJOR DUNDEE, the film was over budget and behind schedule to the point that Chuck had to give up his salary to keep the studio from firing Peckinpah. But Peckinpah being Peckinpah, kept up his self destructive bullshit. One day Heston had had enough, wheeled his horse around, and was in the process of running down the director with his steed, when he came to his senses and veered away. Shit happens, and tempers flare when careers and millions of dollars are on the line.
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Just for future reference, how am I supposed to act if Christian Bale (or some other diva) tells me that they are going to kick my ass? Am I allowed knock him out? Or is there some special hollywood moral code which means I just need to sit it take it like a pussy because it's the "star".
Seriously, who is he threatening people like that. Does he actually beleive he is batman now? Russel Crowe is an ill tempered lout too, but he is a lot more honest and likeable about it. -
Feb 04, 2009 11:11:13 AM CST
If Bale talking to me like that I'd f**kin' end him!!!
by harryblackpotter
I would f**kin' rip his massive head and shove it up his a**. C**K!!!
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Feb 04, 2009 11:13:31 AM CST
"I know this because I happen to be somewhere where someone that
by jabbayoda
That sentence absolutely made my head fucking explode.
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To be fair to Crowe it has almost ALWAYS been the drink more than anything else. He does at least manage to have a laugh now and then but Bale is a different animal. He really does seem to just be rage through and through, why do the good ones always have to be crazy. I should point out my man crush on Bale prevents me from thinking of anything other than the hot fiery manlove to be had from such a distrubed soul and not see any of the bad shit you nerds have been discussing above over this mild outburst.
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>>It's better than a punch in the mouth, which is probably what he would have got if he'd been around actual men, not film set fairies.
W.N.B. lives in the real world, like me and almost everyone else. The Bale rant (and worse, the AICN justification) comes from a make-believe world where oscars matter and ego's rule.
Anyone with that kind of attitude wouldn't last a week in the real world. In the real world, someone talks to you like that you clobber him. that's how we maintain a civil society. When people aren;t allowed to straighten out assholes, you get a culture like hollywood.
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Feb 04, 2009 11:16:34 AM CST
FUCK CNN AND ALL THE NEWS OUTLETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by illuminate
I know for a fact that yelling like this is normal on a movie set when certain people want to get a realistic performance as apposed to a B Movie performance.
I also, knew that Bryce Dallas Howard was doing an deep dramatic scene with Bale since he mentioned her name in the background.
THE NEWS OUTLETS ARE FUCKING IDIOTS. They were asking there crew on the air if that was normal and they replied "No." How the fuck would a TV crew know about how shit is done on a movie. There is a huge difference between the news and Movies. One asshole from one of the news outlets who used to work on movies said it was not normal well, that idiot knows shit about movies and if he were so knowledgable about movies than he would still be working in them.
As for the cinematographer. Well, he was also right since the best cinematographers alter the lighting and do tweek.
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Is expected within the film and TV community; I know, I was a part of it for years. You had good talent, you had bad talent, but they were the TALENT. You paid them to be there to give their best possible performance. To have a member of the crew (which the DP is) act UNPROFESSIONAL is unforgivable, especially since he had "Director" in his title.
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Also, were the fuck was McG during the start of that argument. A Director is supposed to be on set talking to the Cinematographer. Not Bale. Bale had no choice since his Director was fucking the crafts service bitch in the trailer. McG is supposed to be there during all the dialog scenes. James Cameron would never pull shit like that. James Cameron would blow his load of cum down the Crafts service bitch inbetween takes. : )
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The most impressive thing about Christians rant is that he NEVER DROPS ACCENT. He is English, yet remains in full Mickey-Blue-Eyes American accent for the duration of the bollocking. Method!
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every time some fake tough guy (like bale) threatens to kick someones ass that doesnt mean they are going to actually try - so youre saying if someone says theyre going to kick your ass you come out swinging? - like a jerry springer guest? - i wait until the threat becomes real, like if the guy making threats comes at me offensively - that way you dont get sued for beating up a guy for something he just said to you - real men can take it if its just words, you pussy
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Look, The truth is that McG needed to get his people in line...both Bale and the D.P. were at fault and McG needed to get in the middle because his "In Charge" and he needed to tell bale to not calm the fuck down and he needed to tell the D.P. to stay the fuck still and get the ants out of his pants...He needs to take a cue from Michael Bay...Oh wait, he did...He's got giant fucken robots in T4 that don't belong there...And Harry, quit kissing ass after people people have the runs...What if someone talk to you like that?? If the people in charge isn't going to intervine, wouldn't you have to get your back...Or would you just stand there and take it?? I'm just waiting for the day where Bale does that "performance" to the wrong person?? I hope that person knocks him right the fuck out.
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...being an a-hole is still being an a-hole. And, like I also said, we "mere mortals", who have to settle for mere oxygen rather than "rarified air" now have a great way (Youtube, et all) of putting our boots up the @$$es of overpaid d-bags like Bale. Payback indeed, reamains a bitch!
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Bale lost his temper, he exploded. He's an actor tapping into his emotions. It's bound to happen. I'm sure Bale will probably apologize for his tone, but he shouldn't apologize for standing up for himself. the DP should apologize too.
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Fucking site...I'm going over to Rotten tomatoes. this is "cool" news. Why wouldn't fans of film want to hear about an uppity actor losing his rabbits and going off on a DP? Fuck this site! Keep publishing album reviews of underground garbage and concept art of James Gandolfini's nut-sack and call it "news".
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But maybe he was channeling John Connor there. I imagine being the saviour of a cyborg dominated, post-apocalyptic world brings along a certain amount of stress.
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Bale was probably pissed off because he was having to act opposite Bryce Dallas Howard. That would cause any serious thespian to lose it in the course of a day. But agreed with the majority here. Bale behaved like a real douche, Harry's defense of him is a real disappointment, and a tirade like that is completely uncalled for. For the good of the film, Bale and Hurlbut need to come together, hold a press conference, and say, 'That was months ago. We're past it. We'll even work together again.'
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Feb 04, 2009 11:37:55 AM CST
I would pay to see the look on Bryce Dallas Howard's face...
by kid idioteque
during all of this. And the absolute best part is that Bale actually refers to McG as McG! I thought that was just a silly stage name. Hahahaha.
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the fact that the films star did have a problem with the dp walking around (to the point he couldnt finish a take) trumps everyone elses tolerance of it - including the director and ad - its not about "whos movie is it" or majority rules - its about being considerate to all involved - its fine that all the lucky hacks behind the cameras are cool with a loose unrestrictive set, but if it effects the performance of the actors then its everyones problem - it then grinds the day to a halt - is the star of the fucking movie supposed to "play ball" and suck it up? - because everyone else doesnt mind the bullshit going on during a take? - remember your logic the next time youre working with assholes whos workplace bullshit interferes with youre job performance - like in an office or construction site - ive worked at both and there are inconsiderate assholes everywhere - some that push limits and go out of there way to distract - get a life
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Michael Keaton is the ONLY Batman
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You ask the man to inhabit a completely different persona, to abandon all that is natural to his mind and soul, and you let someone walk into his sightline?
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Feb 04, 2009 11:42:46 AM CST
MICHAEL KEATON'S RECEDING HAIRLINE WAS NIPPLES TO ME
by bringingsexyback
And, I'm sure, a great deal many others.
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He is the goddamn batman
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than a lisp and cum-gargling growl
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glovedone. Prick. Are you ever actually going to carry through with this threat and fuck off for good? Or is this another round of empty threats before you get temporarily banned?
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I did/
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I did/
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Really, have you ever laid eyes on a prettier man than Bale?
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You not down with the White Vader?
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Stop stalking me. I dont follow you around to the bathhouses and gloryholes you frequent.
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The Missus: "Stay off of fucking aintitcool."
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I know this sounds kind of silly, but being the star of a movie is a lot of pressure. Every eye is on you. You have to deliver every single moment in front of the camera. Okay, so Chris had himslef a temper tantraum. McG handled it the way he's supposed to; he let the actor vent, get the shit out of his system, then back to work. I'm sure even the DP felt the same way -- let the guy blow off the steam and then we'll move on. This kind of shit happens all the time on movie sets. People don't take it personally. They just move on. I'm sure by the end of the day, everyone was all smiles and laughs. That's just the way it goes. Remember, actors get picked up very early every morning for make-up and wardrobe, sometimes an hour or three before call, then they shoot all day up to sixteen, eighteen hours, then off to the hotel for a few hours sleep and then back to work in the morning. Those hours get to you. Everyone on set knows it. This whole thing has been blown out of proportion. (p.s. LOTS of DP's fiddle with their lights, even when they're rolling.)
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Bale at least is alive, not some PC hypocrite hiding being his PC who posts insults over someone they would never dare insulting face to face. Talkbackers, you need to clean up the mess.
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Harry wants to KILL our other TB and get it out of the Top 10. Thats why he opened this up for comments after he shut it down. There is far too much good material over there to lose.
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I'm with Harry on the fact that this isn't news. What goes on on set should stay on set. The fact that the thing was recorded and leaked to the press is ridiculous. Things happen when you're acting... I act... granted it's only community theater, but it's still acting. When you're acting, you're emotions are so high, and there's so much pressure to get it right. Sometimes things happen. I've seen more than one freak out at a rehearsal or even a show. Heck, I've had one or two of my own. I do think that Bale overreacted. The guy was definitely in the wrong. I do think the cussing out and screaming was a little extreme. But, in his defense, if the scene was as intense as Harry describes, then his emotions were probably high and his adrenalin was rushing. I would hope that he at least apologized later for taking it to that level. I would if it were me.
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Come on, anyone in the least aware of how it went on James Cameron sets knows the director not only beated up Bale in having fits, he would scream INTO A FUCKIN MEGAPHONE at you in front of 200 extras and 800 techs. Get the fuck out of my sightline illuminate, YOU ARE A FUCKIN COCK
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Feb 04, 2009 12:03:46 PM CST
Most of these posts show HOW LITTLE you all know about movies.
by bob cryptonight
You probably imagine its like playing one of your idiotic video games, except with real people. You have no fucking clue. There are SO MANY books out there about movie history, books by actors, books by directors, books about making films...all of which point to Bale's behavior being no big deal. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE is that no one has any audio for the gossip whores. Most of you are, obviously, "sensitive" types.
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Reporting as ordered, sir. Good to hear from ya, hero. Sorry I didn't follow up all those months ago, I was battling Lance Armstrong cancer at the time. (Yes, really.) You may now call me, "One-Nut Bubblehead". Or, erm, not, so much.
E-mail me, please, at hangdaiwu@yahoo.com.
Oh, and on-topic, let me say this: Just about everybody in the WORLD has had a Hulk Smash! moment when they finally popped their cork, blew a capacitor and began re-enacting some Michael Douglas role or other (Gordon Gekko in 'Wall Street', the cuckolded hubbie in 'A Perfect Murder', 'D-FENS' in 'Falling Down, pretty much anything he did with a pre-fuglified Kathleen Turner, take yer pick). A waiter spills hot soup in your lap, one of your kids chews on the corner of your Cerebus #1, the IRS audits the last seven years of your life, a cop pulls you over for doing thirty-seven in a 30 MPH zone, a preening Marxist hack who couldn't make it as an alderman becomes President, Benevolent Despot and Messiah, all on the same fucking day. It happens. Some people spin up quick and blow up fast, then spin back down real soft and buy their hapless victims scotch and chocolate and puppies. And some people simmer for fucking DECADES, pretending that they're shiny happy sociable generous affable awe-shucks-that's-all-right-mate saints, all the way slowly cooking off and stoking an impressively cheer-resistant hate for the universe in general and everybody in it in particular, until one day their percolator top cracks, and they're on the news for having knocked their landlord over the head, tied him to a bed and keeping him alive for a year surrounded by urine and stool samples and with sic or seven hundred pine air fresheners hanging suspended from the ceiling above. You never know. Bale may be the first. I may be the second. You may be the next person I abduct, strap to a hospital bed and abuse with chemically treated Real Outdoor Smell! You just never know.
Bale may have acted like a shit, a brittle, petulant, aggressive, overbearing 120-lb. ball of hate suffering from Half-Inch-Prick Syndrome, but so have I on a couple occasions in my otherwise blemishless life, and so have you, probably, and so did your mom and dad, your Sunday school teacher, your pediatric nurse, that friendly cat lady across the street with the Hummel collection and the soup-smelling house, and so will your children. The difference is, me and you and your mom and dad and your Sunday school teacher and your pediatric nurse and the friendly cat lady and your ungrateful freeloading moody little spawnlets aren't famous, don't live their lives in front of the cameras, and no one really gives a shit what sort of rants or tirades or wig-outs they suffer, unless they suddenly become famous or are a politician or hit the Lotto jackpot or stuff their kid in a trunk for six weeks before reporting him or her missing. So Bale popped off. So he overreacted. So he treated someone, for at least a couple of minutes of what for all we know might otherwise be a fairly calm and serene existence on this soon-to-be-annihilated-by-a-Swiss-manufactured-precision-black-hole, like one of the Bumpus's dogs who just broke his table and his screen door and ate his Thanksgiving turkey and wiped off steaming, coffee-consistency shits all over his floor. Been there. Done that. Cooled off, apologized profusely, contemplated dickness, instituted a ten-seconds-before-liftoff rule, approximated normalcy again, enjoyed the relatively unremarkable passage of weeks or months or years until the next tantrum, went through it all over again. Lather, rinse, repeat. ANYONE who doesn't admit to having had a somewhat similar experience in life is either a saint, a liar or a functional shut-in. And that goes for ALL you bitches and whiners and crybabies and hypocrites who are using this opportunity to cast stones. What, you never spoke out of turn? Got puffed-up and power-mad? Never berated an employee, abused a cashier, bumped chests with some random asshole who stomped on your foot while waiting in line for 'Mean Girls'? Fuck you very much.
What pisses me off so much about this thread is Harry's ignorant, intransigent, irrevocable dildoness at trumpeting his moral superiority while indulging his inevitable base hyper-allegiance to the industry hacks, Bale and his producers included, who keep him in Snacky S'mores. Harry, you're no fool, my man, but you certainly are a tool. Your fame, such as it is, will come to an end one day, and as a direct result of your mercenary corporate whoremongering, not with a bang, but a simper. And there will be much rejoicing, 'cause this site's questionable public utility died long before 'Armageddon', even. -
"You ask the man to inhabit a completely different persona, to abandon all that is natural to his mind and soul, and you let someone walk into his sightline?"
That is not acting, in any way, shape, or form. That's just pretension. the idea is to NOT abandon everything that is natural. Think about it, he was being "natural" yelling at the guy, and when he was doing that, was he worried about some other guy walking into his sight line while going off? and it's funny, bryce dallas howard, who's had serious training, didn't seem to be complaining about it, probably cause she was "in the scene and not focused on what other shit was going on" the director is mostly at fault -
Feb 04, 2009 12:07:56 PM CST
HARRY....its sad you opened this back up for comments.
by dannyglovers_dickblood
Seriously. What the fuck are you thinking?
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You just can't let go. Why bother putting in the effort to threaten to quit and then hover around like a fart in a spacesuit? What did you want everyone to beg? Oh please don't leave glovedone, your pathetic whinging about speed of news, and fucking classless behaviour in obits make the place soooooo much better? Now, follow through with your threat and fuck off.
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why?
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most other movie stars with a grudge would not have shouted at and insulted the guy - they would have disappeared to their trailer and had a quiet word in the ears of those who would fire the guy... at least Bale expressed his feelings to the guy's face and, apparently, the guy continued to work and improved/modified his behavior. He had a chance to finish his job and get the credit. It's so hypocritical that the guy who shouts and insults is seen as the bad guy... when you know that plenty of movie stars have had plenty of people actually fired who they didn't like, but did it in a way which was less loud and less newsworthy.
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so sad. You are the one harassing me dipshit. what is this crush on me all about?
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Haven't you noticed my post whoring?
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it's just funy because you can't suppress news like this and the surrounding discussion regardless of how hard you try.
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You gotta respect the DP!
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You gotta respect the DP!
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which is why it should have been a thread a few days ago.
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i hope you enjoyed it
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Feb 04, 2009 12:20:32 PM CST
GLOVEDONE - YOU MAKE A LASTING IMPRESSION ON PEOPLE
by bringingsexyback
That's my guess!
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Of getting Bale into line, maybe now they wont have to offer him so much to do Batman 3? I still think the whys surrounding this release are more important. For instance how does Tmz owned by Time Warners I beleive get the greenlight from above to post this? The fact it has one of its main stars in two major franchises you would think someone would have put a stop to this and notice how Warners have allowed the clips to be used all over Youtube when normally they would be dishing out notices left and right. Who the fuck exactly has Bale pissed off? If not this then I am going with my original assertion that its a rival studio.
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Feb 04, 2009 12:28:47 PM CST
Harry Says It;'s ok to verbally abuse someone, everyone!
by blinkingfist
As long as you know the whole back story.Verbal abuse, Harry. That's what it was and it can be as terrifying as physical abuse. You sound like your saying "It's ok I hit my wife cause she was asking for it. You don't know the WHOLE story. I tole her many times to get my original recipe and she kept getting extra crispy.
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"You think this is some kind of a fucking joke?" Bale continued, punching a nearby plastic terminator robot so hard that the velcro attaching the plastic "ammo" to the hip of his futuristic GI Joe outfit fell to the ground with a sad click.
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...but you really ought to go get that foot-in-mouth-disease checked out. "I'm with Harry on the fact that this isn't news. What goes on on set should stay on set. The fact that the thing was recorded and leaked to the press is ridiculous." WHAT?!?!? WHAT, I say?!?!? Do you have ANY idea how completly fucking moronic that statement makes you appear?!?!? Let's tear this apart for a moment, like a chupacabra does little brown babies smothered in dysentery and tamale sauce and poor juice: "I'm with Harry on the fact that this isn't news." The. Fucking. Guy. Created. An. Entire. Thread. On. A. Site. Called. "Ain't". "It". "Cool". Wait for it... "NEWS"!!! Dildo. "What goes on on set should stay on set." So why did Harry, Mr. Above-Such-Things, go into a play-by-play exposing the names of all the participants, Bale's "motivation", the DP's thin resume, etc., etc., etc.? About the only thing Happy Harry Hard-on DIDN'T do is post a link to that belly-button-cam he snuck onto the set, which, owing to his impressive girth, is actually an IMAX camera rig. Dildo. "The fact that the thing was recorded and leaked to the press is ridiculous." Dude. Seriously. If you don't get help at Charter, please, for the love of cripes, get help SOMEWHERE. Oh, and: Dildo. And WTF is up with the rest of this horseshit? "Things happen when you're acting... I act... granted it's only community theater, but it's still acting." Yeah. Shit goes down when you're playing NFL football. I play football... granted it's Madden '09, but it's still football. "When you're acting, you're emotions are so high, and there's so much pressure to get it right." Pop a fucking Xanax if it stresses you out so. You'll be like every other "actor", then, in that respect at least. "Sometimes things happen. I've seen more than one freak out at a rehearsal or even a show." That cirriculum at West Dognuts State Junior College and School of Auto Maintenance, Stenography and Hairdressing must be a real bitch, har, har. "Heck, I've had one or two of my own." Heck, I once saw a copy of Maxim, stayed up way past my bedtime and employed an ACTUAL CUSS WORD. "I do think that Bale overreacted." Concise, inarguable, obvious, worthy of a Fox! News!! ALERT!!! "The guy was definitely in the wrong." Not according to your hero, Harry 'Will Lick Your Balls For Access' Fucking Knowles. "I do think the cussing out and screaming was a little extreme." Maybe he shoulda just went on a hunger strike in protest. It's not like his body can't handle the occasional 80-lb. weight loss. "But, in his defense, if the scene was as intense as Harry describes, then his emotions were probably high and his adrenalin was rushing." Put this fucker in 'Hamlet', and he'll get away with justifiable homicide. "I would hope that he at least apologized later for taking it to that level." I'm sure he did, but even if he didn't, his agent sure as Hell did. "I would if it were me." Hey. you're all right, Potchsie, I don't care what I say about ya.
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Bale had a very rough year. He had just lost someone who had a become a very good friend. He was in the wars with family who were trying to mooch of him. and he told them get lost and they attacked him and he lost it. then had to face the old bill. so bale had a very rough year. on the day he faced the old bill bale looked as if he was about to reach down the camera and do some damage to Andrew Castle who asked him what close bale was wearing to the batman premiere. bale looked very on edge. On the day in question last june he could been in very bad mood. that plus all that stuff that happened and the pressure bale was under now he is carrying another franchise on his back made him snap.
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a teleporter for photons, qubits and harry is possible now by sending the quantum info of the particle state to the other elementary particle through quantum entanglement which is something Harry is familiar with. so imagine Harry being in two places at once?
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Fuck him, Bale's right. Dude is lucky he still has a job if he was fumbling around the set of a multi-million dollar film like that. Awww, he got his feewings hurt by Bale calling him names, aww...Boo Hoo... He is lucky to still have a job, period.
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plain and simple.
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He's not an NBA PLAYER, but Mark Cuban pretty much fits that bill.
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"...imagine Harry being in two places at once..." Don't have to. He is: Where he is, and the space NEXT to where he is.
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Read the transcript. The DP was doing what his director wanted. Bale flips out and tells the entire crew to get fucked and do as he says. He's just an egomanical dickwad. I just wish it was on video instead of all audio. It would be cool to see him do the faggoty faux "hold me back" pose.
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club. Have not heard him say whether or not he approves of this franchise contiuning without Jim Cameron. My guess is that once this film is out. Harry will incinerate this movie. Harrys reviews are few and far between these days any how. oh and you can expect more bashing from pro harry sources who hate this film. ITs so sad to see some who proclaims to love film doing threads like this. ie underming movies. thats a very bad day.
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Seriously, Skynet, you're a nice computer system, but you and me are fucking done professionally after this.
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Feb 04, 2009 12:42:54 PM CST
Should've said "YOU WANNA GET NUTS?!? C'MON!! LET'S GET NUTS"
by koborover
Awesome if he'd said it.
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Feb 04, 2009 12:44:07 PM CST
Where were you all when Ed Harris punched James Cameron?
by vintagecrow
You hate Ed Harris now?
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Feb 04, 2009 12:44:41 PM CST
Also, I don't give a fuck wether its "news" or not...
by whinynegativebitch
...Script Girl sure isn't fucking worthy news, nor is some blurry pictures of Heath Ledger walking to his trailer on the set of Dark Knight returns. What this is, is fucking funny, and some faggots bawwwing like little girls that we shouldn't be laughing at our lord and master Sir Bale is rage inducing. I'm sure his millions of dollars and ego will keep him warm at night. You don't need to hold his fucking hand. If he can't handle the heat, maybe he should take up another business...Oh wait, no other business could accomodate an asshole like that.
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blockbusters and now thknks hes the boss. ego a go go.
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Witness... http://youtube.com/watch?v=azOWjmfUqVw
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Did you get your name from that comic in MAD?
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Just saw your Youtube comment (if that was the real you) - fucking agree with your fuckin' ass. That remix is the best song I've heard in prolly the last decade. Fuckin' ass.
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Pretty much in agreement with ya, but you're forgetting one 'business': Politics (remember Dick Cheney's temper?). Oh, and professional dominatrix sadomasochism. Funny, how that works out. P.S. You write good shit, even when I disagree with you. And you were also right: This is The. Best. Talkback. EVER. Props. And for anyone who disagrees, I'm sorry that you were looking for Argument, but, this is Abuse.
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He of all people!
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He of all people!
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He of all people!
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...See how annoying that is? Mike Hunt, meet Yuri Shithead.
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I got about half way down and had to stop.
First off. Harry, this most certainly IS news. It is film news and it has definite implications on what is going on during one of this year's biggest film releases. The fact that it was recorded and sent to the film's insurance handlers is proof of that.
I am putting myself in the camp that sees McG (god how I hate even having to type that) as the soul person responsible for this even occurring. It is his set and he needs to be the one to handle the problem before it gets this far. None of us were there so we don't know what channels Bale went through before this happened. If he went to McG, which seems likely to me. And it still happens, then McG is a prick for letting the DP still do it. If he only talked to the DP, then even that should have been enough for the guy to know better.
And think about this. If you in your job ever decided to explode on one of your co-workers, what would be the result? You'd most likely be fired, right? Because almost anybody can be replaced. Even the director. But halfway (or more most likely) through filming, you can't FIRE the lead. You can't replace him. You could even fire the director and have someone else come in and finish the job and only about 1% of the people watching the movie would know or care.
So, for all of you TBers who think Bale went too far with his rant, he did. But so what? The average movie viewer (and believe me WE who come to this site are NOT the average movie goers)DOESN'T CARE!!
Ok, it's an action movie following up a shit movie sequel that even Arnie's presence couldn't save. Bale was obviously taking it seriously. I'm sure the producers of the movie were taking it seriously too. And imagine if Bale DID walk off the picture because of this. I would say he would be right to do so, with unprofessional pricks like McG (and I'm only saying he's a prick because he wants to go by the name 'McG'.) That would certainly make this audio tape newsworthy.
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Feb 04, 2009 12:57:36 PM CST
'Brokebale Mountain', starring Cinderella Man and Patrick Batema
by theoriginalbubblehead
"I... wish... I... knew... how... to... light... you!"
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I get it...but it doesn't even apply.
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Well, did you read Harry's article? He's the one trying to personalise a hollywood prima donna.
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Feb 04, 2009 1:19:04 PM CST
Man. Fuck this TB like Bale fucked his mom's face up.
by dannyglovers_dickblood
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Feb 04, 2009 1:19:13 PM CST
Uh, Bale and Russell did work together -- 3:10 to Yuma
by iamjack'suserid
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i wanted to hear Bale shouting with his batman voice:
-Swear to me,you fuckin ass.
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Thanks to your slapdash column, Harry, people are now labeling Shane Hurlbut as a meth head.
(See http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0403397/board/flat/129572345)
You owe Mr. Hurlbut an apology for that at least. If you can't name your source for the other accusations, you should apologize for the rest of it as well. -
Is that wierd wart like thing on the side of his nose up by his eye. Everytime I see it I can't help but think that with all that money, why not just go to a surgeon and have it removed? It's distracting as hell.
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working on a movie is like waiting in line at the post office for 12 HOURS. You can go crazy.
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I think this is a BS excuse. No DP would fuck with the lights when the camera is rolling. And if he did then Bale was right to chew him out for such amateur-hour behaviour. And McG should have jumped on that shit at the beginning and fired his ass if he kept it up. What director would be ok with this???
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Baldwin's daughter had it coming too. Selfish little pig.
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No? Bales tirade is mild compared to some of the meltdowns I've seen. And if some tool screwed with an integral part of the job not once buty twice? He'd get the ass chewing of his life, a few tools thrown at his head and a hard escort off the work site.
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Bale was hired strategically as a valuable asset, and Hurlbut was hired strategically as a valuable asset... so they both are chosen creative talents who's mistakes/quirks would be generally tolerated to keep the machine going...
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you shouldnt fuck with the goddamn batman,you hear?
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Feb 04, 2009 1:41:08 PM CST
Changed my mind. Bale was right - though he was still wrong.
by harryblackpotter
When I commented on it earlier, I'd only been able to read the transcript (work blocking mp3's) but when you hear it, two things become quite clear: A) Bale was in a real shitty mood anyway and looking to take his shit on someone. Days earlier he'd been in trouble in London which the press got hold of. B) The DP really sounds like a bit of a dick. The fact is that this wasn't the first time he'd fucked up a scene shows he's not a pro. However, Bale should have tackled the situation in a more professional manner, which is kinda ironic after calling the DP unprofessional. So, is Bale a prick? Probably not. Does he need to go to anger therapy classes. Maybe. Is he still one of the best actor's of his generation. Yes.
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29017195/
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After being subjected to unspeakable psychological damage by the psychopathic Christian Bale, Shane Hurlbut is going to sue him for 100 million. I am making that up, but I see it coming. Hurlbutt (hahaha) will never work in this town again. Bale destroyed his career and his manhood in one rant.
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I fucking back Bale 100%. He's never struck me as an egomaniac or narcissist, never come across as someone emotionally unstable who'd blow shit way out of proportion and be a bitch-ass primadonna on or off the set, and nothing less than an absolute professional who takes his work seriously. When I heard that recording of him tearing that dipshit DP a new asshole, I felt confident that the man deserved it. I have zero tolerance for asswipe fucktards, too - especially in the workplace - and people who are just wholly inconsiderate or outright stupid. So fuck anyone who wants to bash Bale for his outburst; they can throw their support behind the DP, because they can probably better relate to a dumbass fuckup than someone who takes their work seriously, wants to take pride in the final product, and understandable gets upset when they're confounded and sabotaged by someone else's incompetence.
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This site acting like it's ever taken the high road is fucking hilarious. Now shut up or I'll tear down your fucking lights. Harry's little plea to "regular people" came off as a "boy, I sure hope Batman reads this and becomes my friend." Pussy.
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You can't sue someone for yelling at you. If we could do that, we'd all be sued on a weekly basis.
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Great decision in not jumping on the anti-Bale bandwagon. This isn't a news story. At all.
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theplant, you are a fucking idiot you doesn't know how to read. Of course James Cameron yells since, that's how Cameron gets shit done. I was talking about how McG was not on the set during the take you jack ass bitch. : )
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theplant, you are a fucking idiot who doesn't know how to read. Of course James Cameron yells since, that's how Cameron gets shit done. I was talking about how McG was not on the set during the take you jack ass bitch. : )
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He was in the fucking zone, doing his thing.
When the DP fucked it up it wasn't like CB could just flick a switch and back to his normal self.
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Nobody fucks with Bale.
You know, the last guy who crossed Christian Bale on set was Heath Ledger... And you know how THAT turned out... -
Is how divided everyone seems to be. I would say it's pretty close to 50/50 with a +/- of about 5% in either way on how people feel about it. Between whether Bale was a prick for his rant, or if the DP deserved it. And there's not really any 'trolling' on either side because it's not all cut and dry. But it's pretty obvious that the majority of us think you're absolutely wrong about this being news Harry.
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On his website, he addresses Christian Bale’s explosive and embarrassing tantrum on the set of McG’s “Terminator Salvation,” when he reamed out director or photography Shane Hurlbut for disturbing his concentration during a scene.
Harry hasn’t written about it until now because, he says, “It isn't news. And it certainly isn't cool news. It is a moment in a man's life taken completely out of context and most likely leaked to personally embarrass Christian Bale.”
He knows what many of us are thinking: There's no excuse for a temper tantrum like that to ever occur, and if you are going to act that way, you deserve to be embarrassed by your own actions.
Now comes his insider explanation behind what REALLY happened. Are you ready? But first, Harry reveals his Deep Throat:
“I know this because I happen to be somewhere where someone that was there that day and for the shoot is. And this person isn't a publicist, nor are they invested in Bale's career.”
He then calls "young" DP Shane Hurlbut ...
... a known "light tweaker.”
Then he describes that emotional scene between Christian Bale and Bryce Howard as one that required “soul bearing and a deep level of immersive concentration.”
Again, back to why his source spoke out: "Now, the reason I know all of this is because the person that was there, felt that it should be made perfectly clear that Christian Bale was the utmost gentleman and cool guy on set. And the DP really was doing something that professional DPs with experience just don't do. Not during a performance."
Harry's heard the audio tape, all four-plus minutes of it, and believes that this particular outburst did indeed "modify the DP's behavior."
He then enlightens us lesser film buffs: "None of us are perfect, and certainly we have all sinned to some degree. Actors, Actresses, Celebrities and the people exploited on sites like TMZ. They're human beings that I personally feel are owed the same inalienable rights that the rest of us hold dear."
Anyway, you can read more of Harry's lame excuses for Bale’s behavior on his site.
I’m as disgusted by Bale as I am by Knowles who says he wrote this lame excuse "to express my opinion on the spreading of stories like this and making Christian look bad, when he isn't.”
Christian may not be a bad person, but his behavior -- screaming at a DP in front of the crew -- was reprehensible. And that's pretty bad.
But that's my take. What do you think? Or maybe you agree with Harry?
Or do you think Harry the film geek is standing up for a movie star just so he can maintain and increase his access to studio set visits for his site?
Nah, that' can't be it.
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Ok, I don't know what happened exactly on that set but it seems like it was two possibilities:
1) Bale was a complete asshole and lost his fucking mind on a guy for the smallest of problems, or;
2) Bale had constantly been asking this guy to stop walking in his eyeline but he kept doing it, and finally Bale snapped.
In either case we don't know if Bale apologized right away or not, or if he made any attempts to make amends with the guy. What I do know is that McG has a set where an actor can go on a rampage without any interference; or he has a set where an actor can repeatedly ask for someone not to cross into his eyeline and the director does nothing to stop it. We don't know the exact facts of the Bale scenario (although I will admit it was damn funny and I see no problem with laughing at him) but we can see the facts that McG can't keep order on his set. -
Uhhhhh no, you still can't sue.
Hey Kurzinski, If I see you on the street, I'm gonna kick your fucking ass!
Can you sue me?
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He said sue, so that's what I responded to.
Sorry it got you in such an uproar. Damn. -
Next you'll be telling us that the 13-year-old that Roman Polanski molested deserved it, because she trapped him into a sexual situation, no doubt aided by deftly engineered mood lighting. (Those damn lights!) Really, take the studio p.r. flack's cock out of your mouth and replace it with a hoagie.
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"I know this because I happen to be somewhere where someone that was there that day and for the shoot is." Great sentence there, Harry.
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If we didn't know it before, we know it now.
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Nobody fucks with Bale. You know, the last guy who crossed Christian Bale on set was Heath Ledger... And you know how THAT turned out...
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Harry's mangled, primary-school ESL-class justification: "I know this because I happen to be somewhere where I'm getting paid off by someone who knows someone who heard about what happened there that day and is shooting studio spunk all over my Whopper-stained, size XXXXL 'Roland Emmerich is God' t-shirt. Why so serious? I Believe in Harry Knowles.
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you dont accept shit from anyone. bales bad mood, combined with personal stuff ie ledgers death and his run in with his family and the law, possibly made him a sore ass. The long hours and this bloke faffing around on a film set, triggered bales rant.
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All those guys talking shit about the film business, about how Bale would get punched in the "real world", how to get upset if someone walks in your eyeline is gay, and how they treat what they do as important - get real guys.
If movies are not important, than why are you here? You're logged onto a site that gives you movie news, and you're the guys who've probably spent more hours on this thing than anyone else. I’ve got news for you, movies are important. It is a multi-billion dollar industry, one of the biggest exporter we still have in this country and it employees hundreds of thousands of people, and some of those people are the richest people in the world because of that industry.
Yes, in the grand scheme of the things movies are not as important as a man searching for the cure for cancer or a teacher working in the inner city, but it is just as frivolous (or maybe even less so) than a stockbroker, a pro athlete, a store clerk, or even people in the restaurant business (you can always eat at home). Fuck, 90% of the jobs in this country are not somehow any more “real” than working in movies. That is real work, like it or not.
The only problem it seems to you guys is that people in the film business can potentially earn more money than you ever could and that they are viewed as celebrities. Yeah, I’m not a fan of the celebrity culture but it is a fact of life, stop whining about it and move on. In the “real world” someone could have punched George Bush for his boneheaded decisions but since he is the President and he doesn’t have to hobnob with the rest of us that isn’t going to happen.
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As an actor in Hollywood for over 15 years, there is no excuse to treat anyone that way. I love CB and all but HE was being unprofessional.
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bribe mori to come back and take over this. Harry can then do what we all want him to do. go work for a newspaper. or do film history course.
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In the “real world” someone could have punched George Bush for his boneheaded decisions but since he is the President and he doesn’t have to hobnob with the rest of us that isn’t going to happen
Oooo! The TB gets POLITICAL!
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You're 100% right about the inherent stupidity in complaining about this story while contributing to its popularity and infamy, and also are accurate in your observations about why the entertainment industry, perhaps America's most valuable export (right behind agriculture, wars and debt), matters. Props, bravo and ditto. But putting this all down to simple jealousy is a little naive. Who the Hell would WANT to be a movie star (or a singer... or a politician)? What's privacy worth? How about dignity? Or having well-adjusted kids? People who voluntarily enter into the Faustian compact of La-la Land gte absolutely ZERO sympathy from me. They sacrifice normalcy, sabotage relationships and risk their children's well-being for a few bucks and then bitch about how unfair it all is and how much we should pity them their loss of things they never valued before. WAAAH. Grow up, count your money and shut the fuck up. I don't envy these people at all, who can't have an argument with their spouse or discipline their kids or go out for a venti mocha frappuccino without getting stalked like a gazelle on the Serengeti. They had their choice: Like like Croesus, or common folk. They chose the circus.
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Yeah, McG is a coke anyway, we all know he is just some salesman out to get some geeky recog because that's where money is at. But Bale was right. The DP is mcG reg DP, and looks just like him, like the jock at school who bashed your face in while going "rarr rarrhhh rahhhrrr" for liking X-Men by John Byrne comic books, while he would put his stinking tongue into the cheerleader Ahole, thinking he was superior to you while having a mouthful of shit. Bale should have fired both of them and replaced MCCok as director.
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Bale exploded on the guy. As a film student I agree that the DP should have sat back and shut up, but Bale should not have threatened harm on him. You can hear talking in the background amongst the other crew members and I think that is the crucial element here. They clearly wanted Bale to stop. He yelled at everyone including the AD. McG may be at fault for provoking Bale by not locking his set down, but it's Bale's actions as a loose cannon that make it a shitty situation for everyone involved. Most competent actors would walk up to the director to assuage something like this, most DPs would have the set ready by the time they're rolling and most competent directors would know to lock down their set or to inform their actors about any lighting changes.
It bothers me that Harry chooses to defend only Bale at the expense of everyone else. This is not how anyone should operate on a movie set, and this is not a simple situation where one person alone is at fault. I've heard that recording numerous times and it's clear as day to me that it's just a shitty situation for everyone involved. It just so happens that the media will spin it so that Bale suffers the most. Hollywood is just fucked up like that. -
Dubya may not have gotten punched in the face, but he DID get some smelly-ass genuine imitation Manolo Blahniks thrown at him by some pissed-off sand rat whose religion denies him both booze AND pussy and probably ate some bad dates the night before. So, there's that to consider.
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"LEAVE CHRISTIAN ALONE!!" =
http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/?p=9418
http://tinyurl.com/bungxk
The gold is in the comments though...
Great news, I found an excerpt of the part of the script they were performing:
Bale: “It’s the future and robots are killing everyone! I don’t like that!”
Howard: “I’m a hot redhead from the future and I don’t like that either! But look at my future cleavage!”
Robot: “Boop beep boop bip bop.”
Bale: “NOOOOOOOOOOO!”
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Great script "scoop", there. I think they shoulda cast Bill Shatner as Connor, tho. Maybe then he'd quit bitchin' about not being up for a part in 'Star Trek: The Wonder Years'.
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somewhere where someone that was there that day and for the shoot is."
uhh...what?
it chaps my ass that such a poor writer gets to run such a huge film review site.
harry. i've been coming here a long time. and i've always turned a deaf ear to the jeers. but goddamn man. every time i come here, i lose a little more respect for you. -
because of the decisions that are made when making a film and shape of the final product. and who stars in it. What happens on the set should stay on the set. unless there someone in the production(an insider who aint happy). then they are always free to quit and go somewhere else.
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That was one of the commenters on the site, not me.
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NINE, count 'em, NINE new articles posted to It-Used-To-Be-Cool News since midnight, from a scant two sentences on 'TR2N' to another interminable installment of 'Mrs. Knowles' Nepotistic Narcissistic Non-News!' Dude, just retract and redact the fucker. It's okay. Everyone knows you're not really a professional journalist, so you don't need to feign "standards". This ain't the Gray Lady, it's not even The Enquirer. It's a burnt-orange blog and affirmative action program for the SpellCheck-impaired. Enough with the delusions of mediocrity.
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Feb 04, 2009 2:42:15 PM CST
It's a standard post where HARRY throws himself into the situati
by jeditemple
Oh, were you there, Harry? Do you have some special insight that the rest of us don't know about? You don't want to get involved, but you sure as hell defended Bale and went out of your way to attack the DP. Bias? Yeah, I think so. So, take your mouth off of Bale's member and get back to work.
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and for all of those reasons I have decided. that I do not want work in the film business. besides I am related to a very talented animation producer who has won many for his movies. he has a very small company. one is a enough and I am more than happy to go to movies and write about them. and have done the past.
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I agree...but I also disagree a little. A hypothetical--say I buy Bumblebee Tuna all the time. I really don't have any reason to care about what goes on inside the factory, so long as I enjoy that tuna and think I'm getting good value, right? Sure. But what if I learn in the news that the execs at the company treat the workers like shit? Or that they catch too many dolphins in their tuna nets? I might decide, hey, I'm gonna buy Starkist Tuna now, because they don't treat their workers like shit.
I think on this site, we're here because we are movie FANS. Which means most of us--MOST--are still just like other "normal" audience members on the product / consumer end of the movie biz. No, we ordinarily don't know or care what goes down on the fancy-schmancy sets, but some of us MIGHT care if it comes to light that a Tom Cruise or Christian Bale or whatever start thinking that their success or stature gives them a right to belittle other people. I mean, Bale's only 35, which is still relatively young in my book. Younger than ME anyway, and I always make a point of still giving my elders some benefit of the doubt before I go biting peoples' heads off.
At the end of the day, or come this summer, my ass will still be in the theatre for this movie, because I WANT to see it. I'd like to think that Bale just had a bad day, that he doesn't explode all the time, and that he apologized. That's not for me to know. And frankly, I don't personally care so much, but yeah I do think there's people out there who MIGHT, or who would stop seeing his work -
Bale is obivously a pompous douche, as no one should get that emotional about anything - I've been in trials involving millions of dollars and never blew my top that bad. The DP is a douche for dicking around while serious people are trying to work. McG is at fault for having quite possibly the stupidest, gayest name of all time. Harry is at fault for sticking up for some fuckwad fancy pants actor. And Herc is at fault for not having a goddamn Lost talkback up, forcing me to read shit like this to keep myself entertained. The only people not at fault is Ben Stiller and Tom Cruise, for coming up with that hilarious producer scene in Tropic Thunder, which actually did make me laught quite a bit.
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Feb 04, 2009 2:44:47 PM CST
This discussion is moving to the TERMINATOR TB....
by dannyglovers_dickblood
Anyone who stays in this shit hole and continues to massage Harry's lap band, you and me-- we're fucking done professionally.
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Harry defending Polanski for butt-raping that 12years old girl,or Bale for trying to kick the ass of a poor,defendless DP who is just doing his job.
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If it talks like and Ass, walks like an Ass, acts like an Ass - Humm let's see - Oh yeah, it's probably an Ass. If it's the guy down the street everyone on the street knows he's an Ass. If it's a co worker everyone at work knows he or she is an Ass, if it's the local guy on TV- everyone knows local dude is an Ass, if it's Christian Bale who acts like a total self centered Ass- guess what Harry? More people can identify him as an Ass. People who aren't total asses don't act like that do they? Even if you put a camera or microphone in their faces twentyfour hours a day, most people aren't going to go Total Retarded Ass are they? Nope. Dude's an Ass. And you're a suck up apologist Harry.
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celebs bashing the press for a lack. privacy. and I always repsond you chose this life. if you dont like, leave and get a real job. I read an interview with Resse Witherspoons ex husband. and he said the following" if my daughter came to me and said she wanted to be an actress and asked would it be ok, i would say no and I would do everything in power to deter her from doing it. and I would argue that she should go to school, go to college, and get a job in the real world. being in the movie business is no life at all."
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You make good sense, and yours is an especially reasonable outlook. But, on a movie set as in a professional sports locker room, a trading floor or a military unit, comparative age doesn't matter. Position, rank, and power matter, and if the platoon's lieutenant is 24 and its NCOs are in their thirties, well, it don't matter, 'cause the Ell-Tee is in charge. And if the senior broker is a recent graduate of the Harvard Business School and everyone else on her team has a minimum fifteen years on the Street, well, it don't matter, 'cause they have all the authority. And if the QB1 is a rookie and his entire offensive line has at least five years in the leagure, well, it don't matter, 'cause he has the ball and makes the call. And if the film's putative star and above-the-title "name" actor is a mere 35, and the DP is his father's age for all I know, IT DON'T MATTER, 'CAUSE THE DP IS REPLACEABLE, AND BALE ISN'T. Power is ALWAYS concentrated in the hands and persons of the people an organization or effort simply CAN'T LOSE. It may not be "right", it may not be "fair", but it's the world we live in. Moreover, WE MAKE IT THAT WAY. There are reasons why head coaches are fired when their mealy-mouthed little pampered pussball players let out a high-pitched whine (when they're not under arrest). They're "the man", and everyone else has to either adjust to them, or hit the road.
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in a couple weeks I will be the same age as bale. I have seen all of the terminator films just like I have seen all of the batman movies. I will be seeing this.
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'Cause you're all ridiculously gay for fretting over this shit. Well done Harry, this is your "Leave Britney Alone!" moment. Rickey hopes you're proud of yourself.
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Harry, I appreciate your revulsion for tabloid reporting and agree that this story isn't news, let alone cool news. So, aren't you being a little bit hypocritical by engaging in the very practice you condemn and providing your insider's take on things? Who knows what the truth is. I really don't care. I don't care about Christian Bale's personal life or his behavior on the set. And I don't care whether its justified or not. Why are you taking up space on the website with this topic at all? This is my first talkback post, and I can't believe I'm doing it to scold you. Please go back to being the super cool guy that you are and just ignore stupid tabloid frenzies like this one.
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normally, Bale would stab a guy in the neck with a spork for looking at him the wrong way. the guy is god. the DP got off lucky.
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Feb 04, 2009 3:21:09 PM CST
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by motoko kusanagi
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because people bugged the ever living shit out of him over it. Which is what he fucking wrote. These gossip stories just bring the stupidest motherfuckers out of the woodwork.
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the next time some douche cuts across your eye line, you give 'em hell! "oh, what's that, sandy? i don't CARE you were merely coming over to hand me my inter-office mail for the day! YOU WALKED INTO MY EYE LINE! how dare you, you fucking amateur!"
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First off this looks horrible for McG. Where was the director in all this? Prepping C. Angels 3? He should have stepped in right away and diffused this situation. As for you Harry this is just another attempt to make sure you don't ruffle feathers in the industry. So you can still have your celebrity friends and advanced screenings. I love this website, but it has lost it's way. It's fine if you have the inside scoop on things but please don't pretend you are an outsider anymore. i dnt care if the scene was emotional or not you don't talk to people like that in an aspect of life. who the fuck does Bale think he is anyway? yes the Batman movies are great but it is not because of him. I hope he ends up like Russell Crowe. If I was that Dp I wold have punched his limey ass!
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Granted, the DP WAS being unprofessional, but it was NOT Bale's place to step in and scold him. If Bale had a problem with the DP, he should've stopped the scene and discussed the situation with McG or one of the producers. I don't blame Bale for being angry but I do blame him for going off the deep end and essentially playing the "I'm a movie star and am above you!" card by requesting that the man be fired or he would walk off the set. Extremely low class.
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i heard from someone who knows this other person who knows somebody else associated with the movie industry that says this shane hulbert is a real prick to lower level workers especially the PA's, whoever they are, does that change the equation at all. is bale justified in being a dick to a dick.
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or something around their necks, so you can pull them back and beat them with it! Just joking. Bale is an Ass, I always knew. You want to see Bale acting, watch his "Batman", you wanna see Bale being himself, watch "American Psycho" or "Shaft". ;-)
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Enough said.
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if he can beat up his mom then theres no stoping him
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he wanted terminator to go down in flames and he likes what hes hearing.
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or something around their necks, so you can pull them back and beat them with it! Just joking. Bale is an Ass, I always knew. You want to see Bale acting, watch his "Batman", you wanna see Bale being himself, watch "American Psycho" or "Shaft". ;-)
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sorry´ bout that. Explorer to sloooow.
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he threatened the dp with PHYSICAL VIOLENCE. any other job except the priveleged one that bale is in, he would have been fired and escorted from the work site by security. no matter what the dp did, bale's tirade is far more unprofessional. there are a million other jobs more important and less lucrative than the one he's in and people don't lose their cool like.
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shut the fuck up u fuckin haters, u want me to trash this talkback? then why you trashing Bale, the guy is awesome.
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U don't know Bale personally!
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how dare you say that about Bale you fucktard i hope u go to hell
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Keaton would kick his ass anyway, hell, Val Kilmer would (with nipples attached). Talk about overrated. Seemingly "Mr. Personality" is believing in his own hype.
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You at least seem to be from the same...tribe. ;-)
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what makes u think that.
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the Bale is one cool dude. and i'm done with anyone (professionally) who disagrees with the Bale's actions in this, or any other matter.
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Feb 04, 2009 4:08:27 PM CST
OOH! Fight! FIGHT!! Hit 'im with a Fresnel lens!
by theoriginalbubblehead
One guy bags on Bale but doesn't know him. Another guy defends Bale but doesn't know him. They both puff out their chests and pretend the heaviest thing they've lifted in the last ten years wasn't an Almond Joy, then circle each other, peacock-like, making high-pitched barking noises and eyeing each other balefully (yuk, yuk). Then they collapse into each other's arms and promise never to argue with each other again before taking out the toys and the butternut-flavored body lotion and putting on a Nina Simone CD. I am so fucking proud to be a reader of this Talkback.
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wtf? i wish i was him.
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even if he is a "cool" guy. nobody deserves to be talking that way. just they way i feel.
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Bale is a method actor... and as such, he could have easily reverted into one of his many other kick-ass personas, ending the DP's life--let alone career--right there on the spot. oh, do believe... Grammaton Cleric John Preston plays NO games.
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all other actors are boring, Bale makes any movie 100x times more viewable than a movie without him.
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...Sure, but he could just as easily have slipped into 'Newsies' / 'Swing Kids' Jack Kelly / Thomas Berger mode, and embarked on a dance-off... Or played with a rubber ball, as Alfred Borden woulda done in 'The Prestige'... Or gone and quite literally flown a kite, like Jamie in 'Empire of the Sun'. Fucking Stanislavskiy Method nutters... As Olivier commented about Hoffman, "Why doesn't the dear lad just ACT?" Do people REALLY have to shoot someone to play John Wilkes Booth? Or get hooked on crank to be a rock star? Or rob a grocery store to portray a klepto? Fucking high-minded, high-strung, high-maintenance dildos.
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the names dioXholster, nothing to do with dicks. dioxholster is the name of the moisturizer that Turks put on their dicks. see big difference
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let me guess, u dedicated ur life to porn-watching and have mastered the art of masterbating? bravo to you we are all proud.
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He was simply pissed because it took to long for him to be born and become a megastar. Bale beat up his mom because she kept him in her womb for a whole NINE months. He wanted to be born sooner.
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another person to play John Wilkes Booth? no. i suppose not. but it lends a hell of a lot of cred to the role, that's for certain. go ask RDJ or Rourke how 'art imitating life' worked out for them.
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Like most people, I'm dealing on a daily basis with actual real-life problems. In my job, which can break my heart, and at home, where it sometimes feels like the world is ending, there are problems without solutions. I never, no matter what, feel entitled to unleash such bile upon another sentient being.
I would love for my biggest difficulty to be that an underling has wandered into my line of sight while doing his job. Imagine the luxury! "The worst thing that happened to me today at work? Oh, I made eye contact with a person who is not a movie star. Shudder." Seriously, Bale, 99.9% of the world's population would love to have your problems. Suck it up. -
You'd need a fuckin' crane. Where does he buy his washcloth's on a stick?
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Feb 04, 2009 4:37:23 PM CST
Thanks for the facts, Harry. Man, the press really annoy me.
by mr nicholas
They get hold of any little thing they can use to make someone famous look like a twat and trim anything pesky contradictory facts. You really can't believe anything these days. It's the lowest kind of journalism.
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that DP since then? You know, most of the accidents happens on the place, your work (especially with an psychic instable Egomaniac, who hates you, around).
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This whole thing actually gives me hope for the movie. If Bale is that intensely into the scene we might have something here.
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John Connor standing on a burning Hollyood-Sign, Bigass-Laser-Rifles in his left and right hand, facing millions of Terminator, screaming out loud: "Fuck you, you fucking pricks! You and me...we are DONE,...professionally. Fuck!!"
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Bale took the role seriously. EVEN THOUGH ITS A FUCKING TERMINATOR MOVIE DIRECTED BY THE SAME GUY THAT DID CHARLES ANGELS! if im a director i would want Bale.
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i wish i was Harry Knowles who is so content to be the crusted up last drop of semen on the tip of the penis that is Hollywood Knowles you fat Crippled turd no one in hollywood gives two shits about your opinion or your stuck in 1995 website No wonder Moriarty left he was being squeezed out by something even bigger than your fat ass.. your overblown wannabee "inside" so bad Wanna bee director ego
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I'm sorry, but no matter what job you're doing, when somebody continuously fucks with it, you get VERY fucking angry. Also, it wasn't eye contact. Bale was acting with Bryce Howard and that dude suddenly showed up behind her and started fucking with the lights. I don't know what you do, but Bale's performance is going to be seen by millions of people around the world in a very large $200,000,000 film, to be forever remembered on celluloid. Actors aren't crew. They have to reach into intense personal experiences to give good performances. It's very hard to get there, but they do it. I've had to flip out like that on my employees, and I always felt bad about doing it, but I always had to. Sometimes you just have to fucking yell to let somebody know you are serious. A lot of people shrug things off in the vein of "Oh he's having a bad day" and go on with their shoddy ways. Bale was right, and even threw the guy a bone with "You're a nice guy, but that doesn't fucking cut it here."
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Sorry, but he threatend that guy to loose his job, just because he made a simple mistake. Hell, he even apologized, before the whole rant started. What did Bale wanted to hear? He verbally assaulted that guy for 3 minutes for no reason. He made a mistake, so what? Just do another fucking take, take that guy to the side and give him a private speech. That´s what a class act would do!
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Hey, its okay if you didn't respond. I ended up getting banned the next day and had all my posts erased- I thought you never saw it and figured I'd never get a chance to see you again. I'll email you soon...
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[1] It IS Harry's site, and he CAN do what he wants with it. And he allows the public to comment on what he DOES with it, and because he, UNLIKE so many of his pinko liberal commie eggplant-bong-huffing transgendered dilletante fascist dildo brethren, actually BELIEVES in the primacy of the First Amendment, he realizes that dissent and criticism and even insultery is an inevitable side effect of a rich and varied exchange of ideas, just as it was when Benjamin Franklin was publishing the American Aurora newspaper in the late 18th Century. He serves up the occasional meatball, we whack it out of the park, he watches and cringes, but doesn't throw his mitt on the ground, cry "foul!" and run off the field sobbing. He may be an officious, pandering, narcissistic prig, but at least he takes the bad with the good and doesn't whimper and moan about how unfair it is he's not universally loved and respected and sucked off. He doesn't like it, he can close this or any other Talkback down, at any time. He can take it. I'll give him that. It's one of the few remaining aspects of this site, or of him, that I can still totally respect. [2] Yes, it's HIS site, but WE pay the bills, pal. It's our "hits", our eyeballs, our interest, that fuels his site, his fame and his life, and, so far at least, his missteps and fuckups and cockups have only increaed his notoriety. He's long, long past having a thin skin or an easily-deflated ego: This is what he's CHOSEN to do for a living, and it's worth it in his book, or he wouldn't DO it. Who do you think you are, Drillbit Taylor? Harry's a big boy, he can take it. You, you sound like an infant. [3] No, this site is NOT a democracy, hence Harry and certain select cronies, relatives and perennial snausage-snorflers have posting rights, and the rest of us DO NOT. It's a MERITOCRACY, you boob, but, just like The New York Times, talk radio or your local campus bulletin board, the public has a right to respond, you frustrated jackbooted ninny. [4] "We all post at the pleasure of Harry"?!?!? Oh, please. Lord, master, my liege, if it pleaseth thee, I beg thou, alloweth me thine cock into my mouth. Eth. He's not the Messiah, he's a Very. Naughty. Boy. [5] "I'm surprised he lets you guys rag on him as much as he does." Well, damn, I'm surprised a cunt like you manages to survive a single day in the world, the slightest headwind tickling your chin-pubes, or the subtle pull of gravity on your increasingly worthless frame. [6] "If it was me, I'd just be like delete, ban, delete, ban, delete, ban." Then we should all be grateful it's NOT you, you onion-skinned melodramatic poofdah. [7] "You don't like it. Get your own fuckin' site and work your ass of on it for ten plus years til your own work gets the kinda hits his does then you can call the shots, too." If Harry's been working his ass off, pal, his chair ain't exactly noticed yet. [8] "Ain't life grand?" It is indeed. Even a fucknut like you can speak his mind without fear of being slapped across the face with a dead carp. On the Internet, no one knows you're a dildo.
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seems to me all the people Bale's defenders always fall back to the same argument - the DP deserved it coz he was being "unprofessional" - but where did you get that information?
from Harry's BULLSHIT made up fucking "source" is where!
listen to the only CREDIBLE evidence - the tape - and understand it is NOT clear exactly what the DP was doing NOR is it clear if Bale SAID A GODDAMN THING TO ANYONE ABOUT IT before this tirade!
all the conclusions you draw that are NOT based on the tape are based on what you heard from a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy - in other words COMPLETE FUCKING BULLSHIT!
you want me to believe you Harry? NAME YOUR SOURCE
otherwise I call BULLSHIT on your CONVENIENT little backstory and, based on the ACTUAL evidence of this tape, reckon Bale spoke for about four and a half minutes too long on this matter and McG should have offered him a nice warm friendly mug of SHUT THE FUCK UP -
made the whole shooting on this day surely more uneasy and hard for anyone involved than the DP could ever do.
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"...McG should have offered him a nice warm friendly mug of SHUT THE FUCK UP" ...Classic. Amen, and well said. I make the same kind and considered offer to KurtLockwood. You don't like what's being said here, tough titmice. Go back to Webkinz World, where it's all nice and inoffensive and custom-built for toddlers like yourself.
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I know this because I happen to be somewhere where someone that was there that day and for the shoot is
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why is he ignoring her appeals to calm down.....
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It would be great to hear from you, you're practically the only name I recognize from back when this place was worthy of my continual presence. What a fucking train wreck it's become, seriously, it makes me sad. It's great to hear you got banned! I may be angling for that particular honor, myself, as, like Howard Beale, I have quite simply RUN OUT OF BULLSHIT. People make me fucking tired. I hope the Swiss and their Large Harry Collider manage to transmogrify the Earth into a galaxy-chewing black hole that will forever erase all traces of our existence, so as to spare God any further embarrasment.
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Rue The Day: Near as I can figger, with the Universal Translator on the fritz, what it means is, "I've gone somewhere else, where I am now with someone who was on the set that day and saw what happened, and that's how I know these Great and Wonderful Things." In other words, Yo, I got da hook-up, moneygrip.
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Yes, I'm practically the only person from the old days that still trolls around AICN. At least, the only one that still posts (which I never did, but recently picked up within the last year and a half). Northlander reads but never posts, and the rest probably don't even bother with that. Consider yourself lucky you haven't run into any of the real dirtbags on this site. Oh, and some help: If you want to put spaces between your paragraphs and help break it up and make them easier to read, type this but without the spaces in between!
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you are indeed a whiny negative bitch
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Speaking as an aspiring dirtbag, I wholeheartedly plan on avoiding myself, which should be a good deal easier now that my multiple-personality disorder has been cured by that psychiatrist dude from 'Office Space'. (Hence, I now have NO personality, which should surprise no one.) Thanks for the advice, but I've actually gotten used to run-on sentences and interminable Exodus-like postings, and now consider myself to be an exceptionally unfocused digital edition of Jabberwocky. I'll look forward to hearing from ya at hangdaiwu@yahoo.com. Hang dai, fuckin' Vader. Hang dai.
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"It is a moment in a man's life taken completely out of context and most likely leaked to personally embarrass Christian Bale".
Was attacking his mother and sister simply a moment in a man's life taken out of context. I want to know why irresponsible journalism is forgiven simply because it's on a hack site.
What does it take for these ass sniffing wannabee celebrities who run these sites to open their eyes. These celebs are treated like royalty. When people in the real world beat up their mother and sister they go to jail. When they scream and yell like a lunatic they get their asses beaten. I don't know who's worse, the celebs themselves or the apologetic asswipes who write about them. -
"And in this situatioin, I personally hold McG responsible for for not having his crew locked down during a very emotionally tough scene, where a very serious actor is doing very serious work."Dude, he's playing a robot killer in the future. A comic book movie if there ever was one. "Deathlok" or something.I peronally hold Bale responsible for not having his little girl emotions locked down. He ruined the take by walking into your line of sight? Talk to McG and have him lock the crew down, don't go ballistic on a guy and publicly humiliate him. That's one of the worst things you can do to a human being (and yourself in return.) Oy.
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The only hope is we find out he's been running a dog fighting ring. That's the only way to end a career.
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It's simple, he gets off on stealing someone's dignity. Bullies like Bale steal your dignity, they yell, scream or beat up their mothers and sisters. Paraphrasing from some movie that I forget now. City Slickers maybe.
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Feb 04, 2009 6:03:48 PM CST
Harry's Source Is BS - Howard Stern Received Exact Letter Today
by topjack
Harry's "source" is nothing more than a PR shill for Bale. Stern read, verbatim, the same letter today from one of his "listeners." Exact wording with "light tweaker" references and same apologist nonsense. There's no inside source, no exclusive info. Just the damage-control ramblings of a WB/Bale shill.
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http://tinyurl.com/d4o68d
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...and sent it into Stern. That doesn't disprove anything.
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I'm a really good one. Am I a star like Bale? Nope. I neither have the connections nor the "look" to make it in Hollywood. Still, I'm every bit as talented as he is or more. I have tons of actor friends who are just as talented as anybody in Hollywood. You know what? You act like that around me and you'll be lucky to walk out of the room. I don't care who you are or if someone has interrupted your "moment". Shit happens. If you're pissed about something, you take a break to calm down and you handle it like a professional. Bale was the one who was unprofessional. On a film set there are so many people and things that have to get done. It isn't all about you. The person who makes sure the set is properly dressed is as important to the end product as the actors. Bale is a douche. He's a talented douche, but a douche nonetheless.
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Screw this site..and its apologist who is afraid to ruffle hollywood's feathers (AkA the worlds Fattest Feminine Hygene product..Harry "Pork Pies & "Chocolate covered Hamburgers" Knowles
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I think this thing has gotten way out of hand. I wonder if this will have any negative impact on Bale's movie career? Personally, I don't care anymore. It happened a long time ago. The real question is, who recorded the audio and what is their agenda? Me? I'm still gonna watch this fucker because the movie looks good. As for my previous talkback about having less respect for Bale... Well I'm sure the man is really sorry now if he wasn't before. Perhaps he learned his lesson from all this about professionalism in the workplace. I know for a fact he's permanently lost geek credability here but is it repairable? And as for the DP? Well he's obviously had a lesson and then some but he's still working so there's no permanent damage unless he decides to sue which I don't see happening. And as for me and this talkback...... We're done, professionally.
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all you ladies should go back to daycare or sesame street. i have had somebody rip me a new asshole many times and i deserved it. i have also ripped me some new assholes and i regretted it. personally, regardless of how you feel about the incident -and i've said it before- anyone that can string together that many f-bombs is aces in my book.And so in closing, i would like to say get you're head out of your ass shane!
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What does the context of the insane rant matter? Who care's what the story behind it is, or what the DP's credits are, or who lit what wrong. It's irrelevant. We heard the insanity word for word. The back story is completely irrelevant. The apologetic rant of an ass kissing website owner is just sad. What kind of a world do we live in where behavior like this is rewarded?
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Harry - If all you've told us is true, then ultimately the blame lies with the Director. He's resposible for his cast and crew. I don't give a flying fuck how big the star is, there's no reason to do what he did. Mc G should have taken his DP aside and had a talk with him if it was really a problem.
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Did you beat up your mother and sister too? This is not an isolated incident.
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How dare we insult a raving lunatic who beats up his mother and sister and berates a fellow human being in public. Then how we dare mock the asshole who defends him. Do you actually believe you idiots are right?
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no but i've wanted to. my mother is nuts. think of the movie mommy dearest. "NO MORE WIRE HANGERS!"you've gotta admit though matthooper8, he dropped some pretty good f-bombs. impressive.
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Yep, as far as f-bomb laden rants go, it was awesome. Imagine a Bale vs Crowe death match.
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Have we figured that out yet? Because if I worked in the movie biz, I'd want to know so that I'd never make the mistake of working with that person. I understand that they sent a copy to the insurance company but I can't see a motivation for insurance people to leak it. So it seems someone hates Bale and wanted his tirade out to create the PR disaster that has happened. Could you imagine working with someone like that? I sure as hell wouldn't want to. And if people don't go see the movie because of their judgments on the star's behavior, then whoever let this get out might have sabotaged the box office numbers.
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"Assault," in Britain, just means yelling. How many times does it have to be said?
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dioxholster Feb 4th, 2009
04:28:14 PM
dickholder: "let me guess, u dedicated ur life to porn-watching and have mastered the art of masterbating?" Not yet, but I still have your mom's Vivid catalogue to go through. Wish me luck. "bravo to you we are all proud." And nuts to you, you bitter little puffed-up nut-nibbler.
Kurt (what a faggoty name, anyway): "What an immature tirade!" Says the man (I presume, perhaps far too generously) who called out EVERYONE for being mean to Poor Wittle Hawwy. "Are you Bale?" No. Are you bile? Probably. "You insufferable diseased twats who give Harry shit here can hide behind the first amendment all you you want." Thank you, that's one of the benefits of living in a constitutional democracy. How are you liking the banana republic YOU live in, Herr Kurtzweil? And the same First Amendment that gives Harry the right to trash some formerly anonymous DP on the merits of third-hand innuendo, protects ME when I call him out for a fat fucking hypocrite, and YOU when you act like a mewling, squealing, noodle-noggined numbnut fuck-for-brains. "How about being POLITENESS?" How about proper speaking Englishness, you autistic unemployed carpetbagging cab driver-wannabe? "How about a little respect and props to the guy who provides you whining crybaby, assholes with this forum that we know is checked by A-list stars, directors and studio heads." How about ingrate little twats like yourself let the man fight his own battles, and why don't you go join your local Fight Club or petty dictator's army if you're spoiling to teach the unwashed masses a lesson so much? YOU started this, fuckball, not I. You and your whiny simpering little cock-mouthed, "Stop being MEEEEEAAAAAAAAAN to him! What's the MAAAAAAAAATTTTTER with you all?!?" "And what the fuck do childish asshats like you do in return? Call him every name in the book like we're on a playground in elementary school, and even make up some new ones just like your classmates, Stan and Cartman." I WISH I could come up with names as awesome as Stan and Cartman, let alone KENNY. "I, for one, would be pretty disappointed if one day Harry just threw up his hands and said, 'Fuck it,' because he was sick of the insults from little whiner douchebags like you." Well, that's because doughy little douchbags like you are completely fucking ADDICTED to this site, which is as close to the actual real world as a dysfunctional, Ignatius J. Reilly-esque twat like you will ever get, so shutting down this site would be like turning the lights out on the entire Universe. Take some advice: Ask your mom to quit bouncing up and down on that crack dealer that hangs out at the public phone booth across the street, have her microwave a Hot Pocket for you, dig one of your moth-eaten charitable-donation hoodies out of that pile of mouldering pizza boxes and telephone-sex ads you have stacked in the corner of your room, go outside and ENGAGE THE FUCKING WORLD OUTSIDE YOUR LCD MONITOR. Talk to a girl, or a guy, or a squirrel. Breathe in air that doesn't reek of cat piss and your own crusty underwear. And get a fucking life. "And believe, me this site would still get plenty of hits to 'pay his bills' without you and your rude ilk around, you fucking used, splooge tissue." True. There's always some other asshole. Thanks for making that clear. "Whatsamatter, Bubblehead? Did your Mommy not let your suck on her titty long enough?" No. Yours was far more accomodating. "Or did your Daddy let you suck on his dick too long?" At least my old man had one. "My only hope for you Original Bubblehead is that your WAR AND PEACE length Bale-esque rant is but a small taste of the tsunami of anger that you must carry around with you on a daily basis and I see that that you are probably a miserable hateful bastard in ALL aspects of your joyless life and I'm pleased in that knowledge and further it means that you will die of a really painful heart attack from your Type A stress behavior hopefully someday soon." Actually, I DON'T hate everybody. Just you. Just you. "Admit it, you're not clever you're just a hateful, snotty brat, prick who likes the sound of his own voice (or sight of his own b.s.)." Ooh, you got me. "There's a couple dozen of you reach-exceeds-your-grasp fucktards on here (and some do it wayyy better than you)." Wow, 'fucktard'. Original. "I don't have to worry though, people as miserable as you usually do the world a favor and kill themselves." If you're good at something, you won't do it for free. Sorry. "So jump off a building somewhere or hang yourself or there is always the ol' gun in the mouth magic trick." I forgot that one. Would you mind showing me how it goes? "No more anger, Bubblehead, no more pain." Doesn't sound like a whole lotta fun to me. Pain is how the body reminds us we're still alive, and anger is what motivates decent people not to be, well, you. "It's calling to you now." No, that's your mom again. My check for $3.99 bounced. "No one will miss you. Especially not here, especially not Harry." I would be concerned for all of you if you did. "Click Click Boom! Do it." I hope you're not a motivational speaker in addition to being a relentless Harry apologist and digital publicity whore, Kurtlicker. 'Cause, gee, you'd suck at it. Just like you suck (at) everything. -
Imagine you moronic bufoon that you were on the receiving end of this...
It's fucking embarassing...a professional walks off the set until the director grows some fucking balls...your apologetic horseshit and mindless PR regurgitation...adding to some of the dropkick fuckheads excusing this shit only sends the same signal..that there some excuse for losing your shit on total strangers in a workplace..and fuck off with this idea that the 'magic' is so precious on a movie set that it gets a free pass.
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By the way, the guy way up there who said the difference between Bale and the DP was that Bale wasn't wearing hockey pads? Hilarious.
I think Bale went a bit too far, but I can understand it and maybe even sympathize, but you know what? Christian Bale has never told me who to vote for, or to vote, period. He has never urged me to buy a hybrid. Christian Bale has never tried to open my eyes to the atrocities going on all over the globe. To my knowledge, he's never so much as hawked a can of soup on TV. He just acts and makes movies. For that, sir, I thank you, and curse out anyone you want. -
Feb 04, 2009 6:52:16 PM CST
How 'bout that. Lockwood has a point. Someone note the date.
by theoriginalbubblehead
Much as I hate to admit it, Kurt Lockwood's right: Bale's "assault" on his family was verbal, not physical. Which means, I suppose, that I too have "assaulted" Kurt Lockwood, for being a total fucking tool whose bleating is right now no doubt contributing to the global warming that will one day contribute to the oceans washing over us all like the world-covering tidal wave of semen you just coaxed out of Harry Knowles' purple balls.
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Feb 04, 2009 6:54:49 PM CST
Dumbshits, threatening to beat up someone is assault...
by leafar the lost
...in the US too. Assault and battery is the combination of two violent crimes: assault (the threat of violence) and battery (crime) (physical violence). So, KurtLockwood, you need to get your head out of Bale's ass. WHAT DON'T YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND ABOUT ASSAULT AND BATTERY?! FUCK ASS...
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you're not the only poster here from the days of old. lots of people have new user names.
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assault is verbal and battery crosses the threshold to being physical. that's not just in england either, folks. i know we americans drive on the wrong side of the road but the definition of assault and battery is the same. fuckin amateurs. you and me we're done professionally.
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The guy sucking an actor's cock or the people sucking the guy who's sucking an actor's cock.There's no excuse for Bale's behavior and those of you lining up behind that fat fuck shill Harry are just as pathetic.I thought it was bad when he totally showed his true colors during the HD-DVD disaster but this is a thousand times worse.You suck now Harry, more than ever.
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What type of accent does Bale have? It's one crazy sounding dialect.
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ok, so the dp shouldnt have been fucking with the lights. well MCg you're the fucking director. the manager of the whole fucking thing if a guy is fiddling when he shouldn't take it up with him. if your lead actor rips into one of your staff for a whole 3 minutes you stop that shit, get them out in a room and deal with it. the dp may have fucked up, but no body deserves that kind of embarassment to be ripped a new fucking asshole in front of everyone. no one deserves that shit. MCG. you and i are done professionally.
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I've seen blow ups like this many times in many different situations, including film sets ive worked on (which happen a lot) and I can tell you now there's never ANY call for it. in fact, the only time i ever agreed with anyone blowing up at someone like this was when it was at someone who just kicked a dog. so pulling someone up for being a cruel jerk is one thing, but doing this to someone who is merely existing in their presence is a psychological problem from what I've seen of the Terminator salvation footage, the DP has done the best work. So for Bale to rip into him (the man trying to make the actor look good) is completely out of line that said, maybe the DOP was being a distraction but in such a case what the fuck is with the verbal lashing and the threat of violence - that shit just aint on. I've since been watching a lot of Bale interviews on youtube and you know what - he's a fucking twat. here's a clue to Mr. Bale, he's the 4th actor to play BOTH batman AND John Connor (5th if you include the brief shot at the start of the second film) put it together and what does that say?? replacable. Mr. Bale, you're a disgrace
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1. I´ll never buy or download anything from this gentleman, RevoLucian (not my glass of scotch). But, fuck man, I can´t stop playing "Bale Out" over and over and over. Best. Fucking. Song. Ever (until the next remix, ´course).
2. I support mr. Bale on this. The world needs more FUCKs and FUCKINGs. Big Lebowski style, man.
3. I feel sorry for the sad fuck who released the audio. I hope he/she´s gonna be fired ASAP. With the already immortal words: "No, don't just be sorry, think for one fucking second. What the FUCK were you DOING? ARE YOU A PROFESSIONAL OR NOT??"
4. I don´t hate you, McG. But DON´T EVEN THINK ABOUT TOUCHING OUR BELOVED SPACED. Thanks.
5. It´s too fucking late, the end of world is coming. AGAIN. Directed by Jason Friedberg and Aaron Seltzer. EPIC SET MOVIE. With a 300% unfunnier version of THE RANT. At least, they will put the SQUID on it. Squid´s last famous words, after the teleportation: "Seriously, New York, you and me, we're fucking done professionally, poooooooohh (cerebral farting noise)"
6. And BTW, keep the good fucking work, Harry. Kurt is right.
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you and me we're done professionally. as for you bryce dallas howard, my pet. you and i haven't even begun. purrrr.....
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Walk straight, don't get in anybody's sightline - especially mine - and you won't get TRASHED. Have a FUUUUUCCCKKIN' night.
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Feb 04, 2009 7:16:56 PM CST
WHAT THE *FUCK* ARE AFRAICAN-AMERICAN MALES AN FEMALES
by bringingsexyback
I don't FUCKIN' UNNERSTAND.
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David O. Russell. Remember the guy who went on a fuck laced tired at a cunty Lily Tomlin before tossing a stack of papers into a P.A's face, or got punched out by George Clooney for assaulting an extra? Imagine their creative discussions.
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Feb 04, 2009 7:18:15 PM CST
Shia Labeouf to replace Bale as Batman and John Conner...
by leafar the lost
...says bullshit source (me). It's true, Christian Bale is so replaceable. The world doesn't revolve around you, mate. There are 100 other actors just waiting to take your place. Just ask Val Kilmer sometime about how fleeting fame is. He's the fat ass who is the voice of KITT. That's what happens when you stop snorting coke.
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Again, retards, listen to the tape. This was the second time the guy walked in his eye line. Not constantly. Not on going, the second time. Also listen to what else McG says, "we made good adjustments" and he and the crew ask him to cool off and get told to get fucked and shut up and do what they are told for their efforts.
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To act out his fantasy of being an orphan!
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If he delete banned everybody, he would have no site left. I know this shit is hard to hear for some, but no one comes to this place for the reviews or news. It's the talkback function. I originally came here back in the mid-late 90's because I kept reading on sites about how funny the talk backs were (as in a laughing at us, not with us kind of way).
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Feb 04, 2009 7:43:01 PM CST
BALE'S MOTHER SAID THE BATVOICE SOUNDS LIKE HE'S GARGLING CUM
by bringingsexyback
That's unprofessional, hence the assault.
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The DP apologised. Over and over and over. Even people unrelated to the incident apologised. It's hard to hear them over the maniac screaming and threatening to kick their ass.
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"Arrrrrlllllmmmm not wearin' hockey paggggghhhhhhhhrrrrrrrrds!" Slurp. Gulp. Aaah! That's it, we're done professionally.
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In UK, it can JUST be yelling, threat or not.
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The way people here are ripping into eachother for ripping into Bale for ripping into a guy. 99% of you don't know eachother, or the full story behind the audio clip, you're just ready and willing to take what you hear & read at face value and be judge and executioner. If it weren't so funny it'd be sad. Just trying to keep some balance & perspective here. Yes it's a TB but... geez!
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that's strange. i was there when your source's cousin was somewhere else at the time i wasn't there when she called me and told me the same thing. but i didn't believe her and told her "you and me are done professionally fuckhead."
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Fuckhead yelling like a fucking idiot at some subordinate over something trivial to 99.9 per cent of the worlds population.
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Feb 04, 2009 7:51:31 PM CST
I never let details like facts get in the way of a smart-assed o
by theoriginalbubblehead
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To suck up and defend a celebrity. Here is a man who practically defended someone who shot another man for talking in a movie theater.
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thanks for clearing that up. fucking euros fuckin amateurs. i prefer the american way of being able to yell at someone without being handcuffed. euros and me are done professionally. fuckheads.
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Isn't just Harry sucking up to a celeb. It's ruining a guy's professional reputation, based on unsubstantiated rumours from a "source". It's just plain fucking wrong & biased. Not to mention the fact that this "source" doesn't say anything that can't be heard on the tape & contains the same info from an official interview by the world famous AD known as "Shut the fuck up Bruce", that can be seen on yahoo movies & elsewhere. If I didn't know better, I'd say this "source" was Harry reading & hearing the same shit we can, forming his own opinion & claiming it's a source. Besides that, it's fucking funny. No......NO!!
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That'll do, shite. That'll do.
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Lenny Nero's wrong about that. Assault isn't yelling in the U.K. It's basically yelling in a threatening manner, the same as anywhere else. Otherwise people selling stuff in markets would be all in prison for shouting "strawberries, come & get ya strawberries." & Brits aren't European. Technically speaking, we're an independent island, devoid of continent. Although the politicians would have us be otherwise.
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You're a deluded celebrity worshiper if you believe Russell Crowe had been provoked when he hit a clerk in the face with a phone. Oh, but I guess because the great Russell Crowe said "hi" to you he must be a terrific guy. Get real.
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and claiming his bullying, egomaniacal verbal assault was justified has serious celebrity-worshiping issues.
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thank you good sir for clearing up the clear up. i thought i had it right originally but wasn't a hundred percent sure. also my fuckhead comment wasn't directed at you, just so you know. i am a fuckin amateur. me, myself and i are done professionally.you brits haven't gone over to the euro note yet or have you? so the politicians haven't completely thrown you over.
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Thank fuck. God save The Queen..and all who sail in her.
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Geez...
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Could you please post the link to the AD interview on yahoo movies?
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Here's the link. On going back to find it, I realised I was a bit wrong. I don't think it was "shut the fuck up" Bruce afterall. It's an associate producer Bruce. It still says the same thing though, about the supposed intensity of that particular scene etc, which means the rest of Harry's rant was specualtion, which is unfair. Anyway, here's the linkhttp://uk.movies.yahoo.com/04022009/5/bale-terminator-rant-0.html
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I just tried it from here & it didn't seem to work. Anyway, it can be found at yahoo movies UK. It essentially says the same stuff about that scene being intense & emotional & blah blah. Combine that with the tape, add a bit of unsubstantiated rumour-instant talkback.
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sets are very relaxed. At least that's what John Lee Hancock stated.
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asserting Shane is an amateur... you may want to look up his credits... music videos and features.
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Was expecting a movie since it was on yahoo movies, but I guess that's me proving my own point that just because you read (or hear) something doesn't mean that's the way it is.
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damn
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This is his site afterall & I'm on it. But, it smacks of hypocrisy to say "I'm anti-gossip" when it comes to movie stars, but then gossip about a DP. How can he say it's his fault & that he's a well known "light tweaker"? It's wrong. I don't give a fuck if Bale lost his temper. I've heard worse & it's funny to listen to, but that's about it. But a person is either anti-gossip or not & that should apply to everybody, whether he's a movie star or a DP or the guy down the street (who I've heard is a well known chickn fucker, but he isn't a millionaire actor, so I can ruin his reputation without hesitation).
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Feb 04, 2009 9:21:40 PM CST
I know this because I happen to be somewhere where someone that
by iwasredempted
clearly harry is a starfucker. but that doesn't make him a fuckin amatuer. he's sly that one is. don't tell me his line "I know this because I happen to be somewhere where someone that was there that day and for the shoot is." didn't blow your fucking mind. when i read it, i thought "what the fuck just happened?! was that a glitch in the matrix?" it fucking changed my life. harry and i are not done professionally.
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Feb 04, 2009 9:26:34 PM CST
Is Shane Hurlbutt still working as a DP in Hollywood?
by leafar the lost
I insist on spelling Shane's last name with two tt's, because it's fucking funny. I'm so drun k...
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I'm a trained, experienced, award winning journalist.These days, I work as an English teacher. I have to watch the little shits dribble snot down their fat fucking monkey faces. Yet somehow, I'm on the site of a guy who writes stuff like "I know this because I happen to be somewhere where someone that was there that day and for the shoot is." How the fuck did that happen? & I'm still here! Every day. Helping him to pay for whatever it is he eats. Seal cubs or something. Fucked up.
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why has this been leaked now and by whom?
elementary, my dear talkbackers - BALE IS BAILING ON THIS MOVIE
the insurance company have leaked this because Bale has seen McG's first cut and finally realised what a (in Cameron's words) "steaming pile of shit" he's been attached to and has consulted his "representation" on how he can get this film shitcanned - so they wanna make sure he ALSO understands it's waaay past negotiatin time and they are prepared to play hardball if they have to -
I know this because you know I'm somewhere where someone who knows something about this told someone else who told me not to tell anyone, you know? -
Shut the fuck up Bruce (AD) and Cock Sucking Friend Of Bale Bruce (Producer) are one in the same.
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Heard and seconded. A former journalist and talk radio host myself, now I supplement my own junior college lecturer's salary by teaching foreign languages to telcom corporate officers ten years younger and six figures richer per annum than me, and co-owning a comic book / game store concern. And yet, with all these responsibilities and time commitments, it's here I find myself, sparring with the nerdy, the neurotic and the no-shit nonsensical. Pathetic. I would hate myself, except that I'm just so much better than all of you. (Kidding... Except for YOU. You know who you are, you twat.)
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He's DP on a 100 Million + movie. That doesn't happen to amateurs.
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That makes sense. It sounded like something that "shut the fuck up Bruce" would say. Who wants to lay bets that Shut the fuck up Bruce, Cock sucking friend of Bale Bruce & Face saving "source" bruce are one & the same?
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That's proof that the old saying is true.."It's not what you know, it's who you know." Or in this case, who you suck up to.
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i only have cursory knowledge of logic traps but harry's line stripped me of everything i thought i knew about myself and my place in this world. i'm free now.
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Are what he uses to catch the grammar monkeys.
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The problem is, I have this terrible and self-destructive habit of throwing the bullshit flag at the drop of a hat. And I have no patience for fools, their foolishness or their equally foolhardy apologists any more. Ignorance can be educated. Naivety is diminished with experience, senselessness succumbs to wisdom, but STUPID. LASTS. FOREVER. There are several here who add the 'Q.E.D.' to that particular sentiment. More's the pity, they're totally oblivious to it. Anywho, carry on, mate, well met, and I look forward to trading mutually exasperating commentary on the decline of Western civilization, here or elsewhere, in future. Props, my friend. This meeting of the Mutual Admiration Society is now adjourned. All members, please close your flies and wipe your mouths.
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Feb 04, 2009 10:02:16 PM CST
I wish the DP had broken Bale's face in defense. Professionally.
by its a lion
That would have made this story cool and news.
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you're here because of your geek dna. what describes that best is the pink floyd line about the english "Every year is getting shorter never seem to find the time.
Plans that either come to naught or half a page of scribbled lines
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The song is over. We're done, professionally.
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I'm sure Batman would protect him in exchange for getting to fuck Harry's big tits regularly. Just don't fucking distract him.
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but i'm more of a beatlemaniac to be quite honest with you. i'm a sucker for a good pop song.
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...are experts about on-set etiquette, all of a sudden. To be perfectly honest, I don't know Christian Bale. I don't know what stress he was under, or how many times this guy had done that "tweaking" stuff.
Personally, I'd lock down the set if I were the director of an important, emotional shot, not merely so that my star won't throw a tantrum, but so I could get it in the fewest takes with the least trouble. Acting is a profession where intense concentration can come into play, and I'm sure few of the talkbackers are such zen masters that they didn't flip out at somebody who broke their concentration while they were doing something important.
Let's not make excuses for what Bale did. We should do our best to keep our tempers in life. But lets not pretend we can know enough to sit in judgment. This is on-set politics, and another human beings life, of which most of us are supremely ignorant. It might be the more reasonable thing for us to stop jumping to massive conclusions about people whose lives we hardly know.
Also, I can understand Harry's point. I don't come to this site to shit on movies, to shit on movie stars, nor to shit on special effects (I mean, damn, you could do an HDRI Full Force Final Gathering/Radiosity Render on a High definition scanned man, with a fucking genius doing image based maps for his texture, and have everything motion captured within an inch of its life, and some asshole will say the CGI was terrible.
I think people on the internet have gotten too interested in judging movies, overthinking everything in hypercritical detail, throwing their own temper tantrums if some guy in a fedora gets nuked in a fridge, or their favorite toy gets flame decals on the side, or if a certain Indian America Director dares to expose a foot of film within the boundaries of the continental US.
Me? I got enough critical training to last me a lifetime. I know and have retained from my college days a shitload of information about how exactly a film gets made. But you know what? I just like going with the flow and having fun. I like the experience. I don't blame movies for not being 100% real, because I know that everything in a movie is COMPLETE BULLSHIT. Realism is a style, not a creative obligation.
Lighten up folks. Stop taking sides in a fight you just eavesdropped in. Don't be like Donny, in the big Lebowski. Enjoy your movies. Don't worry about whether that makes you a tool or not. If you didn't want to be fooled by a movie, then what's the fucking point of seeing them? Postmodern masturbation about how knowing you are of the whole charade? Small children exist who know that somethings are just true in the movies. Big fucking achievement. How about relzxing, absorbing what the filmmaker is offereing, and then trying to figure it out, work it out.
Folks do this because it's uncool to sing the praises of things nowadays. Oh, you must be aloof from the studios, you must parse the movie down, etc, etc. But if we don't give credit where credit is do, everything becomes about not giving in to the filmmaker, which makes it kind of hard to tell a good story to somebody. -
If you can be bothered to sit through the whole album. I'm a skipper. By that I mean I get bored & skip tracks, not that I'm a ship's captain. Or that I skip merrily down the street. Well, only on Tuesdays. The Beatles piss all over Pink Floyd.
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and ripped him a new one as well.
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I dislike the phenomenon of an actor's persona or "niche" perception being overtaken by the sheer amount of liscence and leeway their profession gets to act completely unprofessional. Actors on this level are supposed to be past the drama queen phase of their career and yet Bale is just one more to shred this perception. Harry, it's bad enough the internet is rank with this stuff. While I am glad you didn't actually post the now infamous video or audio, I feel it poor form to use this an excuse to puff out your chest to tell us what I thought we already knew: That this site wasn't supposed to be the supermarket tabloid of film news.
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I hope he's able to laugh it off eventually. I mean how else do you handle a situation like this?
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Yeah, it must be pretty humiliating. Like that feeling when you did something stupid whilst drunk, then wake up & think "Oh my God, everybody saw me run naked down the street last night with a firework up my arse & now I have to face the world."
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Judge Chamberlain Haller: Mr. Gambini?
Vinny Gambini: Yes, sir?
Judge Chamberlain Haller: That is a lucid, intelligent, well thought-out objection.
Vinny Gambini: Thank you, sir.
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And here I am making it thru everyday surrounded by asshole customers and asshole co-workers, yet I don't feel the need to take it out on someone. Harry, get a clue. Bale gets away with this because he's the "star" of the show: a god damn sci-fi movie. Messed his shot up? Too bad. Get over it. He's still gonna get paid. I have almost nothing left. I'm broke. My mom is no longer around. My dad wastes away. I go thru everyday with my head hurting worse and worse...so how the FUCK does bale have it so bad? Tell me because I really want to know. Bale should be banned from movies. He does'nt deserve to make millions of dollars for pretending to be a non-existent person in a sci-fi movie directed by some asshole named "McG" who doesnt have enough fucking huevos to call time out and pull bale to the side. If bale were to do that to me I'd be in his face like a fucking face hugger from the Aliens film. He would probably kick my ass...but at least I would go down fighting and take a good chunk of pretty boy meat with me. Bale is a coward and a phony. He belongs in a hospital and when he dies I hope he goes to hell.
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While I don't agree with all of your sentiments, I certainly do thank you for putting a REAL perspective on this. BOTTOM LINE: This isn't method. My wife and I have both studied it, and this has nothing to do with it. This is an inexcusable outburst which demands an apology.--BTW, whereAMeye, I'm sorry for your struggles. I hope things get better for you and yours.
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seriously. let's not start comparing what we have to deal with in our lives. it's a zero sum game. sure bale may not have it as bad as you. or maybe he does, we don't know. it's not his fault your father is dying. apologies for being harsh, do not project on him. it's unfair to him and it's unfair to you.
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To amend what I've said here, and to clarify, I don't approve of what TMZ did. I don't approve of just tearing Bale apart. Nor do I approve of tearing this DP apart. For that matter, I don't know if I approve of tearing McG apart (as much as I hate to admit that last one.) My point is, Bale's humiliation aside, this DP is everywhere now too, facing the fact that HIS OWN humiliation is an international joke. That alone (despite accusations of "unprofessionalism") demands something. I just hope he's got some friends to buy him a couple of beers right now.
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not because I worship celebrities. I doubt I'll see this opening weekend (or in the theatres at all after T3 sucked so much).. I support him because I work in retail.
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are going down the toilet in less than 48 hours.
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who works in movies sometimes, tell me that Bale is cranky in the morning before he takes coffee. You know why ? It's all hurtbutt and maccoffee fault, they're unprofessional. I know, he told me.
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blah blah blah, cynicism, blah blah blah, death of innocence, blah, blah blah. I like to kick back and enjoy the fuck out of stuff and not critically analyse it just fine, like Tokyo Gore Police, for instance. I was also happy to kick back enjoy the fuck out of the hillarious wanker screaming crew member tape too, until our boy Harry here decided it was a situation worthy of deep psychological analysis and social concern. Why can't we just all enjoy it for what it is? A spoilt cockhead crying like a baby? "I mean how else do you handle a situation like this?" By taking 5 minutes out of your day to loudly and violently threaten anyone who mentions it. Bale needs to start eating meat, its making him moody being on these novelty diets.
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I caught part of the audio clip on TV accidentally, and in what I heard, Bale was very clear with his threat to walk - if the DP did that again. I'm curious as to why the director didn't clamp down on the DP the first time he messed with his actor.
It's worth the reminder that everything that happens on-set is so that the actors can make magic happen between ACTION and CUT. More intimate scenes in particular require everyone on-set to respect the actors and their process as they make that magic happen.
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http://tinyurl.com/bkoaqp
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hes been acting ever since he was a kid, he knows what to do when some DP gets in his way.
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but in the audio, there's no mention of TWEAKING lights. Bale's problem was that the DP was simply walking behind the camera, CHECKING the light. He's not clambering up a light stand and messing with spun.
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shits distracting man
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Call him an idiot, tell him to fuck off, fair enough. Threatening physical violence is totally uncalled for, it's the behavior of a thug plain and simple. He deserves to be embarrassed by this.
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a movie set is just another location on planet earth, there's no special dispensation for playing 'pretend' that allows verbal abuse of strangers...put down that celebrity cock you're gagging on and think about what you just wrote.
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It's indeed hilarious that god knows how many talkbackers on here are now talking about human etiquette. I mean, I thought this was AICN, where a whole lot of you call each other out on a daily basis, cursing and spitting to each other right ? Ah, but that's just playing right ? I see things differently. Pot and kettle, it's all the same to me.
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as i did 4 or 5 years. What happens on a film set of a film that will be forgotten in a couple of years. somethings are just not that important.
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You don't verbally threaten people, period.
Too bad Bale's "emotionally intense" acting ability can't seem to get rid of the constant LISP he has in every single one of his films. Nor make his lines understandable in TDK.
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...Bobby Knight, legendary NCAA trainer, flip out. THAT was a killer outbreak of emotions.http://crossover-online.de/show_downloads.php?s=8&vNr=3 Just remove the space and click on the download button called "Anschiss von Bobby Knight", listen and learn. Then you'll see Bale's "outbreak" in another light.
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...that hosts a link to an mp3 file of an actor who shouts at man who "tweaks" a "light", and that is how I know the Christian Bale is a monster.
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Not THIS one, though.
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....one time too many. None of the writers have the wit or observational skills to recognise the irony of this whole thing then they are no longer fit to run the site.
Today = the day that AICN died. Let's all go to new Corona Coming Attractions and see how it's really done. Pat had AICN skewered and roasted bang to rights years ago. -
the closed set. and why in the past. the studios went into lockdown to prevent leaks.
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but the stars are the ones with all the power. It may not happen.
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Who gives a shit either way. This will be old news in a week's time.
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"I personally hold McG responsible for not having his crew locked down during a very emotionally tough scene, where a very serious actor was doing very serious work." I didn't realize a McG directed Terminator was so serious. Maybe it will be the next English Patient but with robots.
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could find a whole transcript of the audio?
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Personally, I could care a less what went on, but it doesn't make me not want to stop and call a spade a spade. A lot of actors are whiny little bitches. I've seen it first hand. However, if you are going to critcize the DP for making a stupid move and being amateur etc. for his so-called mistake, you may want to step back. Does that mean when an actor flubs his lines the director has permission to open a can of verbal whoop ass on them for not getting it right? If that's the case, I guess those wonderful blooper reels will become exhibit A for why the director had cause to put a verbal beat down on "amateurish" actors who get their lines wrong. I'm glad Bale never does that. I would hate for him to get a tongue lashing.
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He actually cares about the movie he making and not just cashing a paycheck. This makes me think this movie is going to rock. BOO HOO an actor yelled at me! Get a real job and have your boss yell at you like the rest of us!
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http://tinyurl.com/cvftkp
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I get a huge kick out of all of you moralizing shitheads up in arms about there being "no excuse" for this kind of behavior. As if having a temper tantrum is somehow in the same ballpark as raping a child or something. I'd love to see the pristine moral behavior you all have, of course, conducted yourselves with your whole lives. After you're done proselytizing and feeling all smug and superior, please do go fuck yourselves.
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on set of friends. He did. I am not making it up. as did the other cast members. Schwimmer demolished a junior scriptwriter on the show a couple of hours before an episode was due to air, though he never wrote any joke for the show and never set foot in the writers room, tore this junior scriptwriter limb from limb and demanded that all his jokes for that episodes be re-written. he threathened to get her sacked if he didnt get his way. There is something in the fact that warners will not sanction a friends movie. None of the cast got on very well in the end. WB were glad to see the back of a cast that had gone beyond arrogant. the writers hated them too. cuase the actors were throwing there weight around. The cast of Sex and the city were barely on speaking terms before the movie came out.
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he flubs a line? Just curious why it doesn't work both ways. Oh, I forgot. Bale would beat my ass if messed him up. If he screws up it is okay.
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on the set also. WHOOPS. Sorry. I was gossiping on AICN. They don't allow that. Wait. Isn't this what this site is? Rumors and gossip? Gee, am so confused.
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ROY: How many posts does the White Vader TB have?
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.....if you want the REAL BALE EXPERIENCE get the fuck out of this ballsuckfest and join us in the Terminator TB. WHITE VADER MOTHERFUCKER.
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Is Shane Hurlbutt the DP of another movie, or is his career in Hollywood really over?
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Feb 05, 2009 12:33:01 PM CST
Well, okay, fine, you don't have to be THAT way...
by theoriginalbubblehead
DANNYGLOVER: I want you out of this fucking Talkback you pricks! KICK YOUR FUCKING ASS!
ominus: DANNY, DANNY -
GLOVER: Out of the Talkback you prick!
TheOriginalBubblehead: DANNY, I'm SORRY.
GLOVER: No, don't just be sorry, think for ONE fucking SECOND. What the FUCK are you DOING? Are you a professional or not?
Bubblehead: Erm, no, actually, I'm not. I don't even know what a "professional" Talkbacker IS. Do you?
[DANNYGLOVER smacks TheOriginalBubblehead one]
GLOVER: I said SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! Or I'll rip -
dioxholster: DANNY, DANNY -
GLOVER: No, SHUT THE FUCK UP! Do I want - no! No! Don't shut me up! I don't even know what I'm FUCKING SAYING! FUCK! FUCK!! FUCK!!!
The Dark Shite: I'm not shutting you up.
GLOVER: FUCK!!! FUCK!!! SHUT THE FUCK UP ALL OF YOU!!! [cuffs Dark Shite across the head] FUCK!!! SHUT!!! FUCK!!! UP!!!
Bubblehead: Can I just say, I don't think there actually ARE "professional" Talbackers, mmmkay?
GLOVER: FUT!!! SHUCK!!! UP!!! [grabs klieg light and smashes Bubblehead to the ground with it, then casts it aside] AAAARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!! [stomps menacingly off-set]
Darth Shite: We better all head over to that other Talkback, guys.
ominus: What about him? [gesturing at unconscious / comatose / the late Bubblehead]
dioxholster: I say, fuck him. He's a fucking prick anyway, and he's SO unprofessional. He makes the rest of us Talkbackers look bad. Let the rats have him.
ominus and Darth Shite, together: YEAH!!
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Bale would be fired from his job in the real world, but not the Hollyweird world where inexcusable behavior is tolerated from spoiled actors who has the single skill of memorizing lines and then repeating them.
“The scene in question, was a very emotional and tough scene between Christian Bale and Bryce Howard. A scene that required soul bearing and a deep level of immersive concentration. The sort of scene where everyone on set knows not to get in anyone's eye lines, and definitely not to move lights around while FILMING. You lock that shit down before the scene starts.”
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http://videogum.com/archives/an-open-letter/christian-bales-letter-of-apol_050191.html
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Anyone who reads the posting that they're responding to here and still castigates Bale about this is hopeless.
If anything, I'd like to know where the director was when this guy was fiddling with the lights interfering with the actors' work.
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You got the balls. Join us in the Terminator TB for a good time and a little sniff sniff a White Vader.
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Feb 05, 2009 1:40:06 PM CST
CAPONE deleted my post history over Paris Hilton....
by dannyglovers_dickblood
.....when I called him out for being reduced to a stuttering fan when he explained "SHE LIT UP THE ROOM AS SHE ENTERED." Yup. 10 minutes later all my previous posts disappeared. REAL COOL FUCKIN' NEWS!!
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This makes me thankful that my worst work moments aren't being recorded and analyzed by the world - or are they...[arches eyebrow, looks up at suspicious hole in office roof tile]? Course they'd be sort of lame compared to that. I'm not the biggest fan of Bale the actor, but I feel somewhat bad for him here and pretty much everybody in this clip - nobody comes out looking good. Bale is probably right, but he's clearly overreacting and publicly humiliating a guy. In a normal job, that would be it. He'd be gone. Asshole. The DP is dicking around, being self-centered, not caring about the other aspects of the film, like, you know, the guy who actually appears on the screen, while the actor is trying to do his job for the film. Asshole. The Director doesn't seem to understand or really care or want to take charge of the set, and clearly should have solved this problem earlier. Ok, not an asshole, but certainly clueless, or at least not one his finer moments. Or maybe not, maybe McG said or did something at this point that brought the crew back together, dried all the tears, and got the job done. Who knows? The problem is we don't really know the context. It's a short slice of life where something happened to set it up, and something happened after to resolve it. There were probably lots of other moments that occured on that set where everyone was really capable and professional. Which is why the person who originally put this clip up is probably the biggest asshole of the bunch - knowing it's out of context, not really caring about the film he/she was involved in, just hoping Bale's career is damaged or at the very least, he becomes a laughingstock in front of a world audience. Asshole.
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This is a counterfeit talkback. The real FUCKING Bale talkback is over there ---->
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The David O. Russell vs. Lily Tomlin smackdown... or the "McG doesn't actually control his own movies" ass-whooping. Discuss.
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did you hear about googles latest piece of software. Its for the mobile phone. it involves satetillite tracking. Its pay version of social networking sites like bebo. its called google latanent. and its gives the user upto the minute info on were other users are. in real time. So google will know everything about everyone, where everyone is in the world and what there doing. and what books you read, what you buy. never has the following phrase taken on such a sinister meaning. Its googles World. we just live in it.
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I hadn't. That's fucking nuts and makes total sense. And you're right, google will have all the info, whether people tell google they want to be searchable or not. Watch, in the next few years, someone at google, a loose cannon or something, will use this sort of thing for blackmail - either using what people are looking at/buying, or by tracking where people go and who else lives or goes there. Some idiot congressman will only have to use his iphone in a strip club or a hotel when he's supposed to be somewhere else. No doubt the company itself will use/is using this info to track people who work for comptetitors, whether on the job or off. By most accounts I've read, Google is a pretty cool, laid back place to work. But people are capable of pretty much anything, and will use anything available, when they really need, or want something.
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http://ca.eonline.com/uberblog/b81974_christian_bale_f-bombs_terminator_set.html
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This dovetails nicely in this TB.
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You're right! It all becomes a kind of meta narrative and possibly explains the presence of Arnold Swarzenegger in our reality.
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Like others have said, listen to the damn tape! He didn't "enter the shot", he didn't "tweak lights" like Harry lied. He DARED to look at some lights in Lord Bale's presence. Maybe. McG didn't even see the DP do it, so it may not have even happened.
Personally, I agree with Media Messiah: Bale secretly wanted to tap Bryce's freckled ass and was showing off his "power". I'm sure she was not impressed.
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...to a point. It sounds like a lot of people with a hell of a lot more film experience than I have believe that the DP should not have been moving during a take. I get it. When I was in a scene in a movie years ago, we did seven takes, and during the takes, nothing happened around us off camera. Philippe Rousselot was the DP, and he didn't move a muscle. In fact, I was worried that the heavy, metal-hinged prop clipboard I was holding up for seven hours straight was making too much noise when my muscles started to twitch from standing completely still for too long. I kept expecting Donald Sutherland to demand that I be removed (he never did). I truly can see why Bale would be annoyed by the movement during the scene. But, the severity of his reaction is the real problem that people are having with this. I can accept him yelling "Quit fucking walking around!" Creative people get heated up and fight about what they do, sometimes. And, for all we know, Bale might have bought the guy a beer later on and apologized. But, it's the snide condescension dripping off his voice in this clip that really turns people off. You can get in a shouting match with somebody and still retain a certain amount of respect for that person. I think most people have a threshold they naturally won't cross, because a) they don't want to lose their job, and b) don't want to get punched in the face. I've seen it happen - a respectful shouting match between passionate creative people. But, Bale sounds like an arrogant master, here, dressing down an underling in a sing-song-y voice, like he's dealing with an idiot stepchild, when he himself later says the guy is "a nice guy". THAT is why he comes off as such an asshole, here. Maybe the DP is an 'amateur'. He's certainly got a long enough resume to suggest that he's at least competent enough to keep getting work. But, Christian Bale is not this guy's better. He's certainly more famous, and probably has a lot more riding on this film as a result. But, that's not how you deal with people, even if they do deserve or even need to get yelled at. It pretty much guarantees you won't get the respect that you're demanding from people. I'm actually pretty disappointed in people like Aronofsky coming out in actual support of Bale's behavior. It certainly makes me wonder how he behaves toward his own staff.
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...is that if McG were using a video assist monitor, he'd never see what Bale could see. Because, as you said, the DP never actually entered the frame. Whatever it says about McG's directing approach, I believe he could say "I didn't see that happen" and not be lying. Why would he see it? He's certainly not the only director who uses a monitor.
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I always wondered how directors and crew members can stand working with people like Jim Carrey when he's constantly goofing around on set and blowing takes on purpose, just to get cheap laughs that won't be in the movie. Unless it's for a legendary director who's too well-respected or too tough to fuck with, it really does seem like high-paid actors are running these shows.
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there's too much discussion on the actual topic here and not enough about removing the essential "blackness" from a certain fictional character, or inserting Bale's monologue into the mouths of other fictional characters...
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I hadn't even heard of this so I found a link and listened to it and you know, if you listen to the frstration in Bale's voice and not what he's saying, you'll hear some incredible stress in there. It sounds like he's just hit the limit of his patience and yes, some people do deserve to get yelled at that way because it's the only way you can get them to listen. If you're nice, they'll brush you off and I think that why Bale just got fed up with this guy traipsing around the set not paying attention to what is happening in front of the cameras. Bale just got fed up with it. And did you hear toward the end how Bale just got more angry? You can barely hear the response of the guy in the background but instead of stepping up and saying "sorry man" or something, he's being a flippant jerk, and it just pisses Bale off more. You know, I don't know Bale, in general he's an okay actor and I think he's an inspired choice for both Bruce Wayne and John Connor but I have to go with him on this. By the tone of his voice, it sound to me like he's just had it and the DP is a putz.
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I'll back you up on Sandler being cool. I played some ball with him on the set of Waterboy in Orlando, Florida. I was one of the multitudes in the final scenes of the movie. He was super nice.Now, we don't have a context for the one side of this conversation. Just people busting balls on the guy for flipping his shit. However, the Bale story about him fighting with his mom and sister and nearly getting thrown out of a hotel wasn't too long ago. I don't know. I like Bale's movies. :)
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...That epic rant was PRICELESS, and all the evidence I or anyone else needed that you have nothing but this Talkback in your sad, blighted, closeted life. I'd pity you if I actually gave a shit.
You're right about one thing, tho: I only ever come here to amuse myself. What, did you think your opinion MATTERED, to me or anyone else? Delusions of relevance, not to mention, intelligence. You can have 'em, I know you have precious little else.
And, again I remind you, YOU're the person who called out everyone critical of Happy Harry Hard-on's self-proclaimed piety, nobility and gossip-aversiveness. YOU had a problem. Me, I didn't even know you existed until you started bleating like a shorn lamb. Baaaaah. There it is again. BAAAAAH.
I'll continue to love life, so long as it affords me the ability to spin up, abuse and embarrass mewling little shoggoth-shit like yourself. Keep it up, by all means. You are my favorite pet, Kurt.
And, oh, btw, no one needs to "condescend" to rat turds. They are simply... rat turds. Know what I mean? Of course you do.
As to your kind offer, Hell, son, my E-mail address is all over this Talkback. Contact ME. I double-dog dare ya, meat.
I wish YOU a long and healthy life, btw. Anything to prolong your meaning-deprived worldly existence. And then, of course, there's still Hell to look forward to. Sláinte!
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to film the filming of a movie and release that.
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Can you imagine Paul Newman pulling some shit like this? Christian Bale is a fucking loser. Harry Knowles is a massive, MASSIVE tool. You're not a Hollywood insider Harry, you're a GEEK, that's all. Don't pretend to know anyone. You're fucking backbone is jelly. You PANDER to these people. I personally hope people start banning your bullshit site.
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Feb 05, 2009 6:54:46 PM CST
Crowe and Bale should f*ck themselves and have poo babies.
by damien chowder
Just heard the whole thing, what an ass! Anybody that condones and applauds Crowe and Bale for their fits are insane egotistical narcissists. Even if provoked their is no need to be a complete satan. Only in the movie business would shit like this happen. If those twats acted like that in rougher neighbourhoods they'd fucking get kicked so hard that even there laywers would keel over from 3 cities away.
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...But, say, isn't it past your bedtime?
[YAAAAWWWWWNNNNNNN] Anywho, you're just repeating your own offal, now, so, you're just too boring to pay attention to. I'll await your future prattlings at hangdaiwu@yahoo.com. Time to put my OWN kid to bed, clean up the dishes, tell the missus about that completely cracked nincompoop I put into such a tizzy today, and probably tighten that nagging shower head that's been dripping the last couple of days. You have a great night masturbating to Harry's eye popping out, fantasizing about momentarily trumping your betters and dreaming you had anyone's life but your own. Nighty-night, fucknuts. Don't forget to plug that Elmo Brite Lite in, we know how the darkness scares wittle Kurty-pooh.
Oh, and, btw, "ORIGINAL SHITBUBBLE" is actually pretty good, by far the most imaginative or relevant or memorable thing you've said, here. I won't be coming back... See ya in other Talkbacks, perhaps when your ass isn't cocooning your head quite so efficiently. Toodles, cunthair, you and that Etch-A-Sketch mind of yours can have this thread all to yourself. You deserve it. -
This ain't cool and it ain't news. Is that what you said Harry? A psychotic meltdown by an actor starring in the two biggest genre franchises EVER is not news. Really, are you fucking serious? But somehow Rosie O'Donnel's craptacular variety show WAS news? Right.
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This ain't cool and it ain't news. Is that what you said Harry? A psychotic meltdown by an actor starring in the two biggest genre franchises EVER is not news. Really, are you fucking serious? But somehow Rosie O'Donnel's craptacular variety show WAS news? Right.
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Not news? Of course it is. It's news like anything else this site reports on. If it's not news, then why report on a set visit, or an interview or the myriads of second hand reports this site writes about.
A fucking lunatic blows an O-Ring on a MOVIE set for a huge film and it's suddenly not news. Forget supporting or not supporting the douche bag star, it's about holding the douche bag web geek accountable. You can't have it both ways. -
Please continue giving us exclusive screenings and interviews! We promise we won't put out anything to hurt you! We love you, we really love you! What's that? You'd like that Star Wars review removed? Yes SIR Mr Lucas!
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it's true that there were prior issues with this DP on the set. Then this is a director issue. "McGee...I didn't see it happen." is a moron and should have corrected this problem beforehand.
It is especially frustrating if this was a growing problem and nothing was getting done about it.
So what that it's a Terminator movie. Bale is an intense dude. It's going to have some emotional moments. Why the fuck do you think they picked Bale? Yes Bale snapped. He shouldn't of talked to him like that. He shouldn't threatened him. But his frustration may have been building and some of it towards "McGee...I'll just let this escalate." But he isn't gonna snap at "McGee...I wish I had control of the set like a real director does." The DP is easily expendable, rather then a director.
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...talkbackers condemning Bale for losing his shit and screaming profanities at some clueless movie industry moron is like Hitler condemning Ahmedinajad for expressing anti-semitism. At least Bale had a good excuse. I've never seen a group of people so eager for any opportunity to flip out into inappropriately harsh, profanity laden douchebag rants since I left New Jersey. You guys should write Bale thank-you letters just for providing you an opportunity to express your asshole inner selves. You guys and me, we're fucking done professionally. But I do love the smell of catchphrase in the morning!
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I think some people have been too hard on Shane Hurlbut in this talkback. I'm not on his side or Christian's side, I know enough to know that even with that piece of audio, we don't have the full story. A lot of people are calling him out of his name and calling him an amateur, look at his resume. If you go to imdb, you'll see he definetly isn't an amateur.
He's worked with a lot of directors twice, a director isn't going to request too work again with a DP who is "amateur". I've always liked his photography on everything I've seen him shoot, even the trailer for Terminator looks great. You dont get to shoot a big movie like this unless you know what you are doing. I've been on studio sets where both the DP and Director will move around to check on something, during a take. I wasn't on the set that day but I'm sure in his mind he was doing a good thing, there's so many things he could have been checking on. It's possible that a light was going to tip over. Maybe he saw a bulb diming and would have caused Christians face to fall in shadow. The same way that Christian is passionate about acting so are DP's about thier jobs. All the cool movies that we love have great cinematography, Peter Sushitzky did awesome work on The Empire Strikes Back Allen Daviau on E.T. and Empire of the Sun and Jan DeBont on Die Hard. I've got to watch Jan work on two movies, he is very passionate about what he does. I like Christian Bale's work as an actor too, just don't make it seem like the guy getting yelled at was not making a contribution to the film. -
messing with lights while the cameras were rolling."
Bale (1:30 into tirade): "This is the -second- time that he doesn't give A FUCK about what is going on in front of the camera." -
"The thing that I want to stress is that I have no confusion whatsoever. I was out of order beyond belief. I acted like a punk.
"I regret that and there is nobody that has heard that tape that is hit harder by it than me. I make no excuses for it, it is inexcusable, and I hope that is absolutely clear."
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Orcus knew why he liked this site. On a side note, who what the pregnant actress that was giving out blowjobs that was stated in your book? It's been several years, can we have a hint?
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A lot of you are blaming him for not controlling his actors, his set, and just generally being named McG -- I guess because for a fanboy it's easier than having to decide whether or not Bale is "wrong." But McG, regardless of his hilarious stage name, was put in a pretty difficult situation too. I imagine that he and Shane Hurlbut would consider themselves somewhere in-between colleagues and friends, since this is the second film they worked on together. So then what do you do when Bale, who the studio probably considers more important to the success of the movie than you are, hulks out on him? Would it have been a lot cooler of him to intervene on behalf of one or the other of them? Yes, but I can completely understand his purposeful non-reaction. If I were in his position I'd probably be shitting my pants too.
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"Bale had warned the DP on -multiple occasions..." It's not Bale's position to warn the DP... there is a hierarchy on a set. Bale should have gone to McG...if McG didn't do anything about it... you go up the ladder. The DP doesn't answer to an actor. Apparently, Bale is getting a lot of fallout for his actions... --- http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.a680c9d0e80bcd0500934ea9f7899ed9.601&show_article=1 -- Bale issued an apology, " "The thing that I want to stress is that I have no confusion whatsoever. I was out of order beyond belief. I acted like a punk.
"I regret that and there is nobody that has heard that tape that is hit harder by it than me. I make no excuses for it, it is inexcusable, and I hope that is absolutely clear."" -
So perhaps Harry could now admit he was wrong too and that this kind of behaviour in any line of work is unacceptable?
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McG is a total pussy in this recording. Neither does he tell Bale he's out of line, nor does he tell his DP to get his ass in gear. He just sits there and defers to Bale ("I didn't see it happen"...you can hear his balls sever themselves from his body and drop to the floor). As for the people saying Bale should never work again, lighten up. Bale's obviously a professional, he cares about his work and that passion fueled a serious shitfit when he got taken out of his groove. I've flipped out before (although to be fair, I don't embarrass people or act condescendingly toward them when I do). Bale was wrong to do both, to embarrass the guy and to sound like a condescending douche in the process. But he made a simple mistake. And saying he threatened violence? Please. I thought of his "threat" as the sort of empty talk you throw in high school. It's not like Bale had a gun on the guy or anything, it's not like he threatened to the DP's child alive or some shit, so relax. That said, the rant is comedy gold. I hope that all of those involved have a sense of humor about it as well and learn to have a laugh about it. "Seriously, man, you and me, we're fucking done professionally."
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can land your ass in jail. Except in Hollyweird, where it's perpetual high school, apparently.
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I'll likely see the film... but there are so many conceptual (design)...and casting choices that have turned me off. Seriously, Anton Yelchin as Kyle Reese? Was this a nod to BTTF? John is Marty...and Kyle is George? Anton seems like a nice guy...but comes across as a dork. Someone like Jamie Bell should have been Kyle Reese. Hell, he even resembles Bale.
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...Equilibrium kind of sucks (this has nothing to do with Bale, really, I was just reading a comment about it earlier in the thread). What exactly did it give you to think about? That feelings are, like, good and stuff? And why is it that Wimmer's solution to every existential crisis seems to be killing a building full of people? I will cop to the fact that Sean Bean made the most out of his small role and the moment where Bale tears the cover off his window is pretty beautiful, but overall it's just as vapid a sci-fi actioner as Wimmer's Ultraviolet... no matter how fancy "gunkata" is.
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You need to hang it up. Your coverage is awful, and you're a sellout. The same goes for the rest of dumbass contributors on this site. I'll be taking my business to CHUD, you tool. Hope you have fun licking Christian Bale's unprofessional ass.
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made a huge mistake. on day three of Ultraviolet. His mistake was that he tried push around MIlla Jovivich. She walked over to him and punched him in the face. you do not frak around with her. one tough bitch.
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it goes to your head. you beome demanding. Edward Norton is a great example of modern actor. Who became power hungary wanted too much control. If you need a more pressing example. The incredible Hulk. is a salient point. We still havent heard the full truth about what happened behind the scenes on that one. but there was a huge battle studio, Marvel and Norton. Marvel aint rushing another Hulk film into production.
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and in a couple of weeks Harry will giving us his coverage of the Oscars. but here is the point of my point. once again this site has got no coverage of the baftas. none. not even afucking TB. so therefore you will not have heard that Terry Gilliam got a major honourary award. The bafta Fellowship. and that Pinewood/shepperton got the Oustanding contribution Award. or that slumdog millionaire walked away with seven awards. or Martin McDonagh won an award for in bruges or that Heath ledger won for the The Dark knight. or that AARdman won an award for Wallace and gromit a matter of loaf and death. or that Noel Clarke won the Orange rising star. I know that this is american site. But the above is news. and cant understand why for umpteenth year this site has not covered this awards ceremony. It will cover the oscars but not the Baftas. which is in 62 year. I really amazed that this site didnt at least cover the news about gilliam gettin a major award. this site really has become a a fat sad joke.
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But where was Heath in the Obits?
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WHOA! What the heck did I do to piss you off so badly? I was only expressing an opinion. I'm sorry if you think it was stupid, but it's just how I feel. You tell ME to pop a Xanex, but holly crap? Did I really deserve the complete and total verbal backlashing that you gave me? I think it was a little uncalled for. Also, I'm not a dude, I'm a woman. I'm really am truly sorry that my post offended you so badly. I wasn't trying to piss anyone off. Maybe you misunderstood what I was trying to say. The thing is, I have NEVER EVER been rude or mean to anyone one this site. As a matter of fact, I've been told on here that people respect the fact that I'm that way. I know you probably don't care, but you've really hurt my feelings.
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Harry is mot my hero. I only partly agreed with him on this one thing. I just don't understand why you attacked me like that.
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Ledger died last year. and his obit was included in the obit montage. correction made.
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Actually, I DO care, and I apologize for having called you out so nastily, intemperately, and profanely. Like, I rather suspect, many others here, I had become whipped up into a Bale-esque frenzy of my own before ever reading your original post, and it's more than possible I vented some annoyance / exasperation / misdirected rage at you. There is no excuse.
Thanks for setting me straight instead of putting your head down and allowing me to run right over you without answer... I certainly hope I didn't dissuade you from sharing your opinion in future, or make you regret posting in this instance. ALL points of view ARE valuable, even (especially?) those we fail to agree on. If you would do me the honor of E-mailing me at hangdaiwu@yahoo.com, I would like the opportunity to apologize more personally.
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what the hellseriously.
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Bubblehead and I go way back. When I say I am one of the only ones from the old days to still post, I mean one of us from a CORE group of posters that had been here since 1996. Not that I'm the only person to have been visiting AICN since then, you moron.
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Wow Bubble, I was actually kind of afraid to come back and see if you responded to my post. From your first response to me, I was expecting another verbal lashing, but you pleasantly surprised me. Thank you for that. I will email you as well. Thank you again. :-)
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The two main reasons for light tweaking during a take is A) A change in natural light and the DP is attempting to salvage the rest of the take, or B) the actor missing their mark, and the DP trying to salvage the take for the sake of the actors performance.
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