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NARNIA Saga Now In The Hands Of Tom Rothman’s Fox!!
I am – Hercules!!
Twentieth Century Fox will now partner on Walden Media’s Narnia movies following Disney’s decision last month to pull out of the franchise.
I’m sure many will share my level of excitement as the studio behind “Eragon” is now helping to steer the adventures of the plucky Pevensie clan.
The first Fox entry in the saga will be “The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader.” Fox and Walden are aiming for a $140 million budget, considerably less money than was employed by the two Disney chapters.
Fox's 2008 theatrical distribution output included such genre titles as "Nim's Island," "Jumper," "The Happening," "Meet Dave," "Space Chimps," "The X-Files: I Want To Believe," "Babylon A.D.," "City of Ember," "Max Payne" and "The Day The Earth Stood Still."
Read all of Variety’s story on the matter here.
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Dawn Treader is considered by many to be the best Narnia novel (though Silver Chair fans would disagree). Now that it's in the hands of Fox, I wouldn't be surprised if we get a 70 minute, explosion heavy, plot light ass fest.
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The Lion, Witch and the Wardrobe remake will probably be out in a few years.
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It was sort of like the kiddie version of the apocalypse.
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Crap The Sucker of Satan's Cock is still doing movies I actually care about...Hi Walden Media, welcome to the asshole of the beast, glad you could join us...
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and the poor donkey wrapped in a lion skin. (regarding my prior statement about The Last Battle)
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It was like they were hanging out with Ace Rimmer.
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And that was the best Walden film yet.
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And they tumble over the abyss in Gandalf/Balrog style!
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I don't give a shit because I only watched forty minuets of the first film and never even contemplated attempting to re-watch it or the sequel. Odds are the third film will never be seen by me or even thought of apart from now.
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The christian tale is of little interest to me, but glad the little kiddos and fans of all things christ have something to look forward to.
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Jan 28, 2009 11:41:20 PM CST
Christ, is Fox really going to make the Narnia movies worse?
by tallboy66
the movies fucking blow already. How can you make a turd even more a turd? Christ, maybe Fox will make it better.
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So much for that franchise
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is a cavalcade of shit.
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If Fox could turn me off the x-men maybe they can turn a bunch of little kids off of Christianity.
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IS about to turn into a crap Franchise. and is the entire 2008 Fox linup God They sucked.
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Way too violent. And if they're not for kids, then who are they making them for?
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narnia gets killed in the first scene yo!
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Jan 29, 2009 12:29:42 AM CST
Meh, it's not as if the first two films were any good either.
by paul t. ryan
So what really?
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for a brilliant read on things. I'm all in if the major casualty of war is religion.
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...I'm not even shitting you when I say I've seen better looking armor weapons in community college plays. Just about the only drawback though, Narnia flicks are about the only interesting thing to come out of the ongoing rush to cash in on LotR.
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LeeRoooooyyyyyyy!! (slight inhale.) JEEENNKiiinnnss!!!
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Fox has had one screw up after another. Let's see if the streak continues.....
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Jan 29, 2009 12:40:51 AM CST
Who the fuck cares about those crappy Narnia movies?
by motoko kusanagi
Seriously. Who????
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I caught him on the Fox movie channel before an airing of the original Planet of the Apes tooting the studios horn about how ahead of the curve 20th century fox was when it came to film in the '60s. The only thing that appearance did was illustrate how mediocre Rothman is as president of Fox movies. Richard Zanuck took risks with his movies as illustrated by making Planet of the Apes. Rothman plays it safe by REMAKING Planet of the Apes.
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It's the best dam fantasy franchise since Harry Potter! So for all of you NARNIA haters out there suck a cock, a dick, and two balls! Bull Balls! Eat that shit for dinner, lunch, and feed it to your mother! The next Narnia movie is going to kick as!!
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I'd rather see this in WWE Films hands than Fox.
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Jan 29, 2009 1:12:19 AM CST
Now starring Jesse McCartney, Thora Birch and Common as Aslan
by reflecto
You know it's coming.
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well, there's no big battle in Dawn Treader, unlike the first two books. It's much quieter with more intimate moments. But there is the sea stuff, and Eustace becoming the dragon and all. So maybe the smaller budget will force them to do things in a more focused way.
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Don't pretend like you care or even know anything about Tom Rothman. You are just a stupid bitch who sucks up to Harry and the fanboys by pissing on something you have no reason to piss on. So stay in your domain pissboy. And the uneducated idiots who are actually swayed by this anti-Rothman campaign without understanding the real reasons behind it (Knowle's ego) can piss off.
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... Narnia saga now completely fucked?
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Didn't see that one coming. Honestly, those first two movies were such milquetoast disappointments, I don't see how anyone can be even slightly invested in how the rest of them turn out. I'm content to read the books and ignore the crap films.
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Fuck everything else.
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Sure, it was nothing like the book, which might have pissed off those two people who actually cared, but the changes were pretty much all for the better, and the film was infinitely better than Wardrobe. Now I'm all for hating Jesus, but I'm kinda interested to see this series continue, if only so we can see the final anachronistic shitfight between Aslan and those crazy Muslims and their whacky evil bird god.
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He should get fired for just that list of movies alone.
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And the list of all the genre "successes" from Fox. Wow, this Narnia installment is going to blow hugely. YAY! I hate Walden Media for fucking up "The Dark is Rising" and I loathe the Christian allegory and misogyny that are the Narnia books. Drinks all around!
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And don't you forget it! I balled my eyes out like a little baby every time I saw it.
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Fucks Studios. Fucks everything they get their hands on.
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caspian was a terrible, uninvolving bore of a movie. i'm sorry for the kids who had to see it.
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around in a house. Exciting! Though the third is beloved because of the journey by ship. Romantic imagery. Oh, and a poorly utilized Reepacheep.
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I'm still hoping they make 'A Horse and His Boy' which, apart from the slight racism, is easily the funniest Narnia book and thanfully has none of the whiney,spoilt brats from the previous books in it. Yay!
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Jan 29, 2009 2:53:57 AM CST
Fox. The studio that gave us Planet of the Apes, Alien
by harryblackpotter
& Star Wars has forgotten how to make a good fantasy, sci-fi film. Shame.
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...rolled into one ninety minute film directed by Brett Ratner. Woo-hoo!
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Better than the Golden Compass fiasco anyway.
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I thought these were fantasy films, not films about Jesus
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... I can't help getting the feeling that Fox is only good at making sort of "TV episode" films. Not one of those is a stand-alone classic. They're all cheap disposable movies, which says a whole lot about Fox's entire attitude towards movie making.
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Can someone please tell James Cameron that his "Avatar" spammers on this site are becoming totally counter-productive annoying fuckwads? I don't care how much he's paying them, by the time "Avatar" comes out, everyone is going to be sick of hearing about their eyeballs getting fucked, and the movie will never live up to the (presumably expensive) viral hype campaign.
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There is no viral hype for Avatar. It's genuine enthusiasm from Cameron fans.
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and I say that as a big fan of the books.
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Not a fuck could I give.
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I don't hate Rothman because HK told me to, I dislike him because he personifies everything that is bad with studio execs and a great, great studio has now just turned to poop under his leadership.
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yeah, we're all very excited about it, but Motoko really takes it a little too far lol
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Your distribution of Star Wars made the world fall in love with your logo. But man, that generation has grown up! Compare your slate to Warner Bros: BY NO MEANS is Warner Bros all successful, but at least they took a few risks some of which paid off (Dark Knight), others not (Speed Racer). I know there is plenty of average dross there too - Get Smart, One ? Years BC, Journey to the Centre of the Earth - but with a Dark Knight on your list, and a year of upcoming that includes Watchmen, Harry Potter and Terminator 4, who cares?
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A bigger turd has never soiled a genre movie.
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If they had kept on Singer, we would have had an X3 that I believe could have easily been of the calibre of Spider-Man 2 or The Dark Knight. Instead we had something that just felt 'rote' - and we got a crappy Superman movie into the bargain.
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2009 Fox = 1994 Orion Pictures
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and X3: Sleep well America!your franchise is in good hands!
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in 2009!
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This Rothman guy sounds like a wanker.
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Simple fact is, Avatar has so much geek hype and expectation that even Cameron's 'A' game (which is not ensured) may not be enough to stop Phantom Menace levels of dissappointment.
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I'm one of the apparent few that really liked both films. So I was looking forward to the next one. Well, that's been dashed now. The best I can hope for is to watch the Fox effort and try to figure what the REAL version would have been like.
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based in the weakest book. It was far better than MANY summer offers and MUCH better than Twilight, for example. It was released in the wrong time of the year and eaten by the summer crowded slot. FOX will only distribute the movie and co-finance it, they are not doing it. And even if they were, it could end up being good as well. But, guess so, if it was WARNER, I bet everyone here would be happy. I can't help but wait and see when the next WB offers start crashing and burning and fanboys starts their campaign excuse them. I have a feeling (unfortunately), Watchmen will just open the road...
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You all scared his Agent or something. Sad news. Could have been fun.
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Jan 29, 2009 6:42:54 AM CST
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!
by half-baked-goggle-box-do-gooder
Good Fucking Riddance to 'em.
What kind of a masochist IS Rothman, anyway? First, he goes out of his way to piss off the fanboy nation. Now he's going after the cutesey-poo Christian demographic.
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As I watched Narnia I kept thinking... "Where is my Lord of the Rings DVD."
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I think a $140 million dollar budget is more than adequate. I mean, I know these films are supposed to be epic and grandiose, and there's a huge amount of CGI and special effects involved, but if you can't make a decent movie with a $140 million, then you probably shouldn't be in the industry. Learn to fucking budget your money better and learn how to do more with less.
And, seriously, how much are these films earning? Because they seem to receive fairly mediocre reviews and once they're released you don't tend to hear much about them. They definitely don't seem to be on par with The Lord of the Rings, or even the Star Wars prequels, in that they don't seem to generate a passionate opinion one way or another. So, while it shouldn't be all about money, if the movies aren't making enough profit, if they don't offer the incentive for financial growth, I'd saythey're lucky to be given a budget to continue the story at all.
Of course, the real question is what other restrictions and requirements Fox will be piling on the project. Like, are they already demanding a Christmas 2009 release, thereby severely limiting the planning and production time, forcing the filming schedule to be rushed and sloppy? Are they going to take the slash-and-burn approach they used with X-Men 3, where Rothman throws a whiny little bitch tantrum, driving people - people who might have given a fuck about the movie - off the project and slotting in any shitty replacement who'll promise to deliver on time and under budget, regardless of quality? Will Fox honor the established films and make a genuine effort to keep the recurring cast, or will they immediately replace anyone who won't bend to their will and accept whatever terms they offer?
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If you were looking for a Fantasy Movie with that D&D feel I think it was better than LOTR in that regard!
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is still going to be better than the shitty blockbusters we've had foisted on us by The Hack Pack over the past few years.
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...couldn't make this franchise any worse. But then, he seems to be the Anti-Midas, a being out of some sort of alternate-universe ancient Greek mythology, with an unparalleled ability to transform gold nuggets into turds.
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But wait until Fox is done production and the film is just a few months from release
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It was just starting to get a little more serious and have a little more depth. JUST when we were getting to my favorite book in the series...THIS happens. I just don't trust FOX not to meedle. I know Walden makes their movies and use studios to distribute but Fox won't keep their spoons out of the soup...they never do.
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Why?! Where's Aslan to save us all?!
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but I didn't race out to see Caspian. Still haven't seen it. I lost interest.
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Wardrobe has grown on me, too. They aren't perfect films, so I can't get upset over this news, even the FOX can go kiss a duck
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Jon Peters or Tom Rothman?
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Rothman will hire Brett Ratner to direct the next movie, and he will change the story around to make it more exciting. Ratner will put in a sex scene, some partial nudity, and add as much violence as possible to keep it at a hard PG-13 rating.
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As my wife said, "The first two were good." (Sigh.)
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Jan 29, 2009 8:03:41 AM CST
that list of Fox's 2008 output just makes you want to weep....
by gabba-uk
All of that drek came from the studio that gave us Die Hard, Predetor, Alien and not least of all Star Wars???? Can you imagine if Rothman was in charge in '76 instead of Alan Ladd Jr... Seriously now, someone needs to put that studio out of it's and our misery. It really is just a shell of it's former self, surviving purely by the raping of it's past glories. It makes me sadder than it does angry.
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It's not the size of the douche that matters, it's what they douchebag with it.
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awesome
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Jan 29, 2009 8:21:02 AM CST
Why isn't the mighty Christian movie crowd making hits of NARNIA
by bob cryptonight
--making hits of these NARNIA films? After that first one, the whole "underground marketing" through the Christian community kind of fizzled. I guess they have better things to do like stopping abortion and crushing militant Muslim terrorism. But come on!!!! On the weekends, you guys need to relax! Go see a NARNIA movie, people!
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Jan 29, 2009 8:25:16 AM CST
Aslan and rothman will now fight for the souls of the pevensies
by ironic_name
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My deepest sympathies to you. I am betting this ends up in the hands of Brett Ratner even though the Variety article has Apted directing. I figure it because Asshole, sorry I meant Prick, sorry ... Rothman, will stick his nose in it, piss Apted off who will walk and lo and behold Ratner is parachuted in.
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This is good news. Bad movie, Disney. You don't drop a hit franchise after one weak entry, especially when the weak film is based on the weakest book in the series.
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I can't believe anyone would think it's better than TLTWATW. It was even more heavy handed in its Christian allegory than the first film and the Caspian actor put me to sleep every time he was on screen.
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Jan 29, 2009 8:36:10 AM CST
Lion, Witch, Wardrobe wasn't bad, but...
by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for
Caspian was boring shit.That is all.
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who say things like "Oh shit!" and "Step back, shortness." Fortunately, all that's forgiven because Edmund (who is now black) remembered to bring Lucy (who is now asian) an Ipod, a PSP, some bottles of Pepsi, and a sack of McDonalds hamburgers.
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Why didn't they give it to Sony? Other than wanting to kill the franchise in the most gruesome way imaginable, putting it in Rothman's hands makes no sense.
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Boy. It won't happen because Calormen and the worship of Tash is an ever so thin disguise of the Arab world, Islam, and Allah. And we wouldn't want to offend terrorists now would we. No, I understand not all Arabs and Muslims are terrorists. That is a given. But enough of them are, or indfifferent to the actions of their brothers that it is not a stereotype, but a truth.
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but Prince Caspian was horrid in that it totally went off script from the book. There was no castle invasion, the Narnians were supposed to be myths, not extinct, and Caspian was supposed to be younger than Peter. Dawn Treader can redeem the franchise, but if they make it they need to get busy as Scrubb is in Dawn Treader, Silver Chair, and the Last Battle, and he ages normally. Whereas Magician's Nephew and A Horse and His Boy can be made anytime. You can even have new actors or the same actors as the Pevenses in The Last Battle as they are several years older, and it makes no difference.
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Much better than the Narnia stories.
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...A Skeptic's Adventures in Narnia. Good stuff...essential for all Narnia fans, especially the non-religious.
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Very little CGI would be needed. It could have more Conanesque feel as far as the cinematography. Disney should not do it though. They turned The Black Cauldron into a piece of crap by combining The Book of Three and The Black Cauldron. Paul Bettany as Flewdur Fflam. I wanted to like Eragon, but it was terrible. Too bad Lloyd Alexander has passed away.
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I'll have to look that one up. It sounds interesting.
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'Nuff said.
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When am I going to get the opportunity to buy *Fight Club* and *Big Trouble in Little China* on Blu-ray? Shouldn't you instruct Fox Home Video to get your beloved catalog titles onto the format so us genre fans can do the inevitable double/triple dip upgrade so you can add that revenue to the balance sheet?
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I'm the last person in the world to support what Disney has become, but the NARNIA movies were getting better. I was hoping NARNIA would follow the same path as ther Potter franchise and keeping getting better as you go. CASPIAN was head and shoulders better than WARDROBE. Which is kinda funny since the book "Prince Caspian" is probably the second worst book in the series, next to the last one, "The Last Battle." Not saying CASPIAN was great, but at least it had substance to it where WARDROBE did not. Similarly with the first two Potter films compared to the 3rd. The place finally looked lived in. The characters, while still not a lot, finally had some depth. I was really hoping DAWN TREADER would be the breakout film of the series. It also happens to be one of my favorite books of the series. Second only to "The Silver Chair."
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Just shut your stupid ignorant cunt mouth.
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I believe Disney still owns the rights to those. I think a live action version of those could be great. I kind of picture Adrian Brody as Flewdur.
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I loved the first two Narnia movies. Most of the criticism tossed at Caspian was baseless. It would have been disappointing to have the series end with just two installments. If Fox would release the next Narnia film during the winter it would make a hell of a lot of difference in the gross. The summer is just far too crowded by blockbuster wannabes.
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Nothing happened to or between the children. Think how engaging Ed and Lucy were in the first film. In Caspian they were just doing what, er, they'd already done. Read the books. (BTW, the Magician's Nephew is a beautiful, beautiful book, highly recommended to anyone who likes fantasy of whatever age.)
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I thought the first two Narnia films were interesting, in their own way--certainly not compelling, for they felt a little shallow and empty--but they did try to emulate the spirit of the books, which is admirable in itself.
Except, now with Rothman on board, I have this perverse desire to see just how terrible things can get. . .and I imagine that things could get pretty terrible.
I'm envisioning Voyage turning into a Pirates of the Caribbean/Sinbad/Hercules style adventure, complete with partial nudity, massive explosions, and corny one-liners ("This water's drinkable light. . .as light as. . .as. . .water!!!!!" OH SNAP).
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...crap (I love the books), and end up getting into it more than I expected to. I think it might be the music that gets me...not sure.
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at least SOMEBODY is making "dawn treader" now. last week as far as we knew, nobody was. fwiw, i thought both movies were great. but i'm also a long-time fan of the books, heavy-handed christian message or no.
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...complete control of the world anyway? Will Fox have that much to do with it besides distribution?
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is more than enough to make this book into a movie. All you really need is a CD dragon, and random holes in the ground, and a boat. I hope they stiat closer to the source material than Caspian did. Although that was a decent movie, I think they tried to make it too bad ass for what it was supposed to be.
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I checked out of part one when Santa Claus showed up. That was as stupid as if the Easter Bunny showed up in the middle of Lord of the Rings.
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I really enjoyed the first but man... Prince Caspian was barely mediocre.
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It was an interesting prequel to the Narnia saga with the allusions to Genesis, but I felt it lacked a sufficient ending. It felt too much like a prologue to Lion, Witch and the Wardrobe. I doesn't work as a stand-alone story very well.
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Jan 29, 2009 10:20:04 AM CST
I don't think Walden will let Fox fuck it up.
by dannyglovers_dickblood
I'm sure this is like Star Wars/ Fox distribution deal. Walden still foots most of the bill and has creative control and Fox just slaps their logo on it.
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but, like "Titanic," allow your brain to rest unmolested. I don't see "Aliens"-level Cameron in this. Sorry.
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glad I'm not one of them.
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That was their biggest boneheaded move on Prince Caspian. Either stick the franchise back in the holidays where it belongs or at LEAST wait until July when kids are actually out of school.
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Fox just be paying a distribution fee to release the Narnia movies, but it is likely that Walden, like Lucasfilm, retains complete control over their C.S. Lewis properties.
That's probably the only way you can do business with Fox. If Marvel makes movies with them in the future, go in with total control of your property, ask Fox if they want to distribute for a fee and that's that.
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Please don't remind me that this was the studio behind Eragon. Eragon was one of the most sucktastic movies to come out in a long time. If they handle Dawn Treader the same way, I'm going to rip my own head off.
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I enjoyed all of those. Especially the first two. Too bad even the really good Fox films were ignored by the public last year.
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Jan 29, 2009 10:47:17 AM CST
who cares when AVATAR will be a FUCKING FAILURE in 2009?
by ironic_name
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Releasing in May was the biggest mistake. The Christian crowd that helped make the first film a hit will turn out more at Christmastime.
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But that's not the issue here.
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Not perfect by any means, but a good movie. The second one just didn't have the proper pacing. They could re-edit that and make it awesome. I have high hopes for the third one provided Walden Media is in control. If FOX controls this film, I WON'T watch it. I just hate that Anna Popplewell won't be back because she's hot!
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sorry I'm on a "In Name Only" binge
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We know from various reports that they had already started preproduction and the film was set to start filming around march 2009 for an x-mas 2010 release, I just hope this deal doesn't dlay that anyfurther, the 3 years between the first 2 films was too long, they should be pumping out theses films every 2 x-mas's, perhaps go to a 3 year gap once the pevensie adventures are doneif you wait too long then the actors will be 35 by the time they make the last battle, hell the guy who played caspian is already like 29 or somethingas much as i love this series, i don't think fox will completley destory it as it already had cracks in its foundation, the franchise should have been better planned out from the begining and walden should of had disney commit to the whole series, now the first 2 films will have a much different feel from the rest of the series
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But apparently this site is full of democrats and atheists. You all need to grow up just a bit and GET OFF THE INTERNET SOMETIME.
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Jan 29, 2009 12:03:29 PM CST
The LOTR Movies and the Star Wars prequels were $110M each...
by revenge_of_fett
I think $140M will be fine for Dawn Treader. It's too bad Disney dumped it, but I'm just glad someone picked it up. i don't have the seething hatred for Fox that some of you do, but that Watchmen business ticked me off.
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Can't wait to watch the next films on my iPod!
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Muslims invaded the US Embassy in Iran and took American hostages. Muslims tried to bomb the world trade center once, and succeeded on a second attempt when terrorists bombed the world trade center. Muslims send suicide bombers to Israeli markets killing people indiscriminantly, and fire rockets into their cities. Muslims are trying to overthrow the government in Afghanistan by using suicide bombers. It appears that, although nothing proven yet, that Muslims were responsible for the Mumbai bombing in India. After freeing Iraq from Hussein (and yes, W was an idiot, and no, we shouldn't have been there or be there, but that aside) Shiite and Sunni Muslims have the chance to live in peace together without persecution. What do they do? Bomb each other. Am I missing something here, or is your only defense against truth an infantile comment instead of a relevant discussion. And as I've said a million times, not all Muslims are terrorists, but don't try and even pretend they're not out there. Newspapers can't even publish a picture of Mohammed without being threatened. Do you seriously think a studio is going to release a movie like A Horse and His Boy or The Last Battle? Rant all you want, but the ultimate defense against libel is the truth.
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and nobody cares. walk away, take the baggy pants and walk away.
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Fox tends to underpromote all of their Walden movies, and this one is actually one that can't be underpromoted. If they do, some people will get fired. And hopefully whoever replaces them will do more as well as more of the Inheritance Cycle and the Dark is Rising Cycle... But that's just me.
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it wasn't that good anyway.
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Jan 29, 2009 1:45:13 PM CST
To be honest, I'd rather see them...
by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for
do the Golden Compass sequel.Thats how shit Caspian was.
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honestly, was it badly acted, badly scripted, bad action...what exactly is the reason people think it was terrible, yes it did deviate from the book, but that doesn't make it a bad movie, just not a great interprtation of the source material but fuck that, those were the books these are the movies, its two different forms of media they should at least be somewhat different..now i do not think the movie was perfect, i felt it had some pacing issues and could have done with some finer editing, but its not a terrible movie, if it wasn't sandwhich in with the other major blockbusters this summer it would have been in several top 10 listsdisney are bitches, they were looking for a film to go up against ironman and indy and they thought caspian could do it, but they were wrong and rather then admit they made a mistake with the relase date, they just drop the franchise all together. well as much as FOX has let me down these passsed few years, i wish them all the best i hope these movies go on to make sevral billion dollars and disney is left looking like the idiots who lets a cash cow slip through their fingers
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And you're right, I don't care. Those books just didn't grab me. The Weitz bros. actually wanted to make the movies, if you recall; but Brad Pitt is too buff for Elric. Paul Bettany -- oh, but he already played an albino. Hey, you know who would've been PERFECT... Heath Ledger.
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.. and that was the biggest problem. It's execution was an insult to the source material, so for avid fans of that source material it rang hollow and fell flat. And for people discovering the material through the movie, the lack of coherent geography and any tangible credible motivations or arcs for the characters left them floundering, with just some nice scenery and some interesting sets to gawp at.
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Just shut your mouth. You're an ignorant asshole who should keep his reprehensible thoughts to himself. You want me list the hundred or thousands of examples of non-Muslims committing or who have committed atrocities around the world. Look at Israel. Hell look at your own fucking country fuckhead. Yet you, becasue of your sad pathetic prejudices, have to single out Muslims for their misdeeds, as if being Muslim has anything to do with it.
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...and dig those books enough to pray no one attempts to put it on screen. Put it this way, LOTR was much more translatable in a visual way than Elric would be.
The only way I would like to see this done is animated. Full blown state of the art, dream-like fantasy...from Tanelorn to Nadsokor. Some of the freaky stuff in Akira would be a good reference, and that was how many years ago?
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watch fox make this a great series
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...Was good. It doesn't really belong on your list of "FOX sucks" movies.
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I always thought Caspian was by far the weakest book anyway, even though the idea of Narnia of old being dead for centuries and ruled over by this nasty human race is a pretty strong and far out idea for the SECOND book of a kids' fantasy series. But there was NO DEPTH. The movie brought in that depth, whether you like it or not. The Telmarines were IMO brilliantly realised. The guy playing Miraz did an excellent job, as did his generals. The ONLY bad thing was the acting of the guy playing Caspian, but that was partly because you can't help but laugh at his Mexican/Spanish/Italian/whatever accent (he normally has an English accent). He was still believable as Caspian, and Peter, Susan etc. were pretty good too. I reckon the youngest girl, Lucy, has a real career ahead of her. If she keeps on track she could be great, maybe the next Keira or Kate Winslet or something (OK that's jumping the gun, she's like 11 or something, but she CAN act).
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You cast yourself as some sort of champion of all slighted people everywhere. Your a hyper-sensitive wimp who screams "bigot" when anyone here makes an honest observation... even prefaced with a disclaimer.
You must be uncapable of any nuanced thinking as evidenced by your lame ass non sequiturs (i.e just because all Muslims aren't terrorists means that NO Muslim is ever a terrorist.) I guess that means that no white people are racist either. Shhessh. You're as intolerant and misguided as they come and in a different age you would have been that guy who led the villagers with pitch forks and torches to "go get dem' witches"
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Jan 29, 2009 3:39:47 PM CST
OK she's actually 13. Dawn Treader would be her chance
by performingmonkey
to prove herself as Lucy has a larger role. The guy who plays Edmund, Skander something, also has a great future ahead of him.
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The non sequitur I meant to illustrate was the lame retort of listing all of the atrocties NOT committed by Muslims...as if that has anything to do with dudes central point.
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Jan 29, 2009 4:04:22 PM CST
You guys really think people would associate with Muslims?
by dannyglovers_dickblood
There are still a ton of people that say "Oh really?" when I explain all the Christian allegory in the first film. And I disagree that Caspian has more allegory than Wardrobe. No fucking way. Not after the sacrifice and resurrection Lion scenes. Nothin will come close. Really I can give a fuck. I don't like Christians, but I love these movies. Bring on more.
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Jan 29, 2009 4:06:13 PM CST
the young one in Narnia can be the next Drew Barrymore.
by dannyglovers_dickblood
She won't be attractive enough for anything past that. And she has the same lisp.
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please go away. off the internet. don't come back.
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...not great books of course, but Elric is kind of cool in a turgid, pulpy sort of way.
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Orange juice
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Um...you guys should probably try to keep that a secret.
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Wardrobe was a cute movie but lacking any real substance.
Caspian was so bad in the first half, I almost walked out. The kids aren't good actors. Going off a mediocre script. And getting bad direction from a guy that obviously doesn't know how to communicate with actors. The villain was rather lame. There's a kernal of an idea about equality between humans and animals/monsters, but it certainly wasn't cultivated properly. As others have said, Caspian himself was lifeless and uninspiring. And the general story was a mess. That enough of a critique? And I love fantasy. I'll even watch whatever crappy syndicated fantasy show is playing on Saturday afternoons this year.
BTW, all the X-Men movies suck. Not just X3. The first two were messes. No character development other than Wolverine. No real tension. X2 was just a longer version of X1 but without any villains for the X-Men to fight. And it had plot holes the size of mack trucks in it. How it gets some geek adorement is beyond me.
That said, Fox does suck as a studio. I just don't think the Narnia films can get much worse. Caspian was a huge dude. -
... in the end where OK movies. Not great by any means, but certainly not that bad as people has trashed them... Narnia movies haven't been that good anyways, so I don't think the change of studio to Fox is going to damage that much. Mediocrity to mediocrity.
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or Ireland plays Elric. His first pick was Bettany, but he already played a character with albinism. A recent suggestion of his is Cillian Murphy. Or he'd be happy with Tilda Swinton.
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He has those creepy dead eyes.
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Jan 29, 2009 7:10:38 PM CST
An Elric movie would have to be more of a horror/fantasy...
by flickapoo
...sort of thing...to do it right. I'd watch that.
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it was fucking boring. It was a pathetic retread of the first flick and it's title actor was a brit with a shitty spanish accent.Hence, a shit movie.
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$140 million doesn't seem like it would go very far. I hope they spend wisely. Outside of that, this could be another Caspian-type disappointment if they don't get the release-date right.
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Now that I have your attention, how about some Hobbit news. We haven't had a tidbit of information. Aren't they at the point of casting yet? Come on, Harry give us some cool news.
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I love you.
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I know that you know that I know you killed bobby lupo.
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I will be > you and if I find that you are trying to corrupt my first born child, I will bring you down, baby. I will bring you down to Chinatown.
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...As I recall, you and BSB were spooging all over your monitors regarding this particular POLITICIAN. Your guys' pecker tracks are all over these talkbacks!
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Somehow I'm guessing 'hating' on Christians is okay in his book.
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I won't assume to speak for him, but a lot of people on this site don't mind hating Christians, but scream foul if the word Muslim is even mentioned. It's like the Isaac Hayes hypocrisy. He would bash any religion on South Park, but once you talked about scientology it was like "oh no, insulting religion (only mine) is wrong." As I've stated anyone can spew their little curse words to make them feel like a big person instead of trying to discuss an issue with some semblance of reason, rationality, and logic. Bottom line is you'll never win an argument with a crazy person.
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You're dead on correct. I grew up in a mildly Christian household, my wife is Muslim, I work in a VERY diverse place with Mormons, Jews, Muslims...and as much as I may think their particular theologies are bat-shit crazy, they are still some of the kindest, easy going people I've met.
I don't judge religions, I can only assess individual practicioners.
But you will hear the defense here from BSB and others saying :No, it's not ALL Jews (or Christians or insert said religion)" Just some! It's kind of like the red neck who says to his black friend "I don't like black people but you're ok!" ...and thinks he's paying him a compliment. -
Blow a little money on some talent one day, ok? Sheez.
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I just think the first Narnia movie was handled much better and since i have not read any of these books I honestly have no expectations or clue one about the potential in sequels. Those kids are pretty old already. Oh well Fox is making it so it's probably a moot point.
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...the Narnia films couldn't suck anymore: Here comes Tom Rothman and his giant Suck Brigade. Have a blast ruining another sequel/film series Tommy. It's what you do best!
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If you're going to drag me into your argument (for lack of a better word), you might try to represent my position accurately.
And if you want to justify your place on that grand pedestal of righteousness, you might want to apply some indignation at that morbid buddy of yours who has expressed the most horrible hate speech ever to grace a talkback without getting banned.
But you being a typical self-righteous hypocrite, no one will be holding their breath for it. Stay classy biatch. -
OK, "CHRONICLES" it says, well then why did they start in the middle...do it right, start at the beginning, even if you have to combine a couple of the books...some folks don't know how the lantern got there! Also I am so tired of some people who are trying to force "religion" on everything we enjoy. I just don't get it...why can't any classic just stand on its own merit without people trying to read their own twist to it. It's a marvelous series and is fun to read again and again. Leave it at that.
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Excellent. Doctor Who? can you honestly not see anything wrong in the gross generalisations that you're throwing around? People would shit one if you called ETA or the IRA "catholic terrorists" but that's what they are. I actually think that your pigheaded redneck analogy is wrong. You've got it reversed- by labelling the minority you're actually the rednecked fuck saying to a black guy "I thought you lot were all like this, but you're OK". I don't like any organised religion, and am prepared to badmouth Islam as much as Christianity. Having said that, though, I don't care if you worship whatever, just don't inflict it on me .
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Jan 30, 2009 4:15:56 AM CST
Lost Jarv, ahh, if you're 'prepared to badmouth' something
by ironic_name
prepare to have someone defend it. [nods wisely] also, paddington bear is your emperor.
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The French Connection, Alien, Star Wars, Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid, Die Hard.... Rothman shoud be fired after his output last year.
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You're right Lost Jarv...they are "Catholic terrorists" and wonder of wonders...YOUR USE OF THAT PHRASE DOES NOT OFFEND ME. Suprised? Just because such a statement is used does not call ALL CATHOLICS into question. I can't believe I'm typing such a BLATANTLY OBVIOUS observation. I will not call you a bigot nor claim you are using hate speech. It is an empirical statement and you get a cookie for applying some logic for a change.
So fine...you called them Catholic terrorists. I'm down. Why is it that you bristle then a talk backer types the 2 words 'Islamic' and 'terror' together?
Note however, that a "Catholic terrorist" statement doesn't stir up up mobs of screaming people in Rome burning things in effigy. Why do you think that is? I honestly do not know.
And as for "hate speech" BSB...your definition of such is arrived at by your 'feelings' and not your rational thought! Did he say he hates Muslims or finds them to be sub-human? Did I miss that? Sounded pretty tame to me.
Apply some critical thinking and step your game up instead of emoting all over the place while pointing fingers and screaming bigot.
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THE LION, THE WITCH & THE WARDROBE was the first Narnia book written and published and despite the later changing of the numbering to reflect the chronological order of the story, every dramatizer has chosen to select LION as the first story filmed.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chronicles_of_Narnia#Reading_order
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to tar a whole religion because of the minority- The point is that neither ETA or the IRA are reffered to as Catholic Terrorists- and they aren't representative of the whole catholic population. Al Qaeda, Hamas etc do not represent all of the muslim population, so perhaps another perjorative term should be found for them.
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back to the point. Narnia sucks ass, always has done, always will do. It doesn't matter which studio attempts to adapt Lewis' unsubtle analogies- they will all suck.
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The first film felt to plastic. The world didn't look as if anyone lived in it. It wasn't a terrible film, just a bland one. I've only read the first book when I was younger (and being indoctrinated into Christianity) so I'm not terribly familiar with Prince Caspian.
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All of those movies listed at the bottom are bad.
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Uh huh. Right. Coming from you, that's too rich for me. I suggest you read Jarv's posts - and by read I mean get his point - and step up your own game.
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And yes, I do see where he's coming from BSB...I just think it is flawed respectfully. Here's my example Jarv:
If Guy who happens to be a Christian commits a horrible crime...he is simply a criminal.
If the same Christian guy commits a horrible crime IN THE NAME OF CHRISTIANITY/JESUS etc...then yes, he is a Christian fundamentalist wacko-terrorist. That's fair. HE declared it. It's accurate. It's not some arbitrary lable thrown at him to marginalize OTHER Christians.
If other Christians were to take offense to that...then they can go fuck themselves. They should take offense at the clown who committed the crime, denounce him and see the plain fact that said criminal is the one harming the name of the religon by his own declaration.
Conversly, anyone who would think that he represents all Christians would evidently be an idiot.
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Both Narnia films are good and you're all too fucking afraid to say it.
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