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Another rumored possibility for INDIANA JONES 4

I am NOT going to vouch for this information and it has not... repeat it has NOT been confirmed. BUT... it is another possibility in the realm of rumor-dom. This is the latest 'plotline' that has hit me from a 'insider'. Only time will tell if it be true or not, but for now... I figure I'll put it up to you.... Truth or Fake? Now McCallum says they have a script... Which would seem to disavow this report. But then, I don't necessarily trust the words that escape his mouth very often and take it like a slab of english roast beef... with a lot of salt. Meanwhile... the word on the name of the VIDEO rerelease of the INDIANA JONES series is that they are re-titling RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK.... like they did with STAR WARS so long ago. The word is, it'll now be known as.... "INDIANA JONES AND THE RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK" Ugh. I swear to God if they touch a frame of this film, I'll get hopelessly upset.

Makman here Harry. Been reading all the IndyIV rumors and just can't keep my silence anymore. I work at (Deleted San Francisco Company Name) in the production offices and have been privy to many discussions regarding the next intallment of the Indy chronicles. The film is at least 2-3 years from actual production. Wouldn't even get a start until after Episode 2 wraps in the spring of 2002. The scripts mentioned are nothing close to the actual storyline that has been placed on the fast track. There is no script only a treatment - twelve pages in length. But it is being treated as something Indy himself would spend two hours looking for. The treatment title is Indiana Jones and the Red Scare. It takes place in the early fifties, Indy is retired from galavnting across the globe. He is the department chair of the archeology department at Princeton. Henry Jones Sr. is gravely ill and lives with Indy in their modest home just off of campus. Papa Jones has maybe six months to live. He has a live-in nurse. Indy and weathered very much looking his age. He longs for excitement but knows his days are over. He wants to marry, pass on the Jones name. He spends most of his time with his father and a middle-aged history professor named Gladys, who's affection he wins from another colleague at a faculty dinner - a hilarious opening sequence in the true Indy form.

The jest of the story has Indy being retained by the Eisenhower Administration to assit the government with obtaining information about the Russians retrivial of some dubious artifacts found in Hitler's bunker after the raid on Berlin. Hitler as we know was into the occult and it seems Russia is now in possession of all the documents and oddites found with the Nazi Fueher. Sallah returns. And Indy's new lady friend is a blacklisted author well versed in the occult and deemed a Communist.

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  • July 19, 1999, 2:58 a.m. CST


    by stewdog

    Man, am I on a roll tonight!!

  • July 19, 1999, 3:01 a.m. CST

    Is Harrison Ford going to star?

    by stewdog

  • July 19, 1999, 3:03 a.m. CST

    all we're asking for is one more...

    by reni

    I don't give a fuck how old Harrison is, one more Indy flick is alright by me...This shit is my life..!

  • July 19, 1999, 3:10 a.m. CST

    Hey! I'm fourth!

    by StuEdwards

    This story treatment has cheered me up on a gloomy Monday in England...sounds like an excellent premise, and couldn't be further from the aliens crap...

  • July 19, 1999, 3:31 a.m. CST

    Indiana Jones And The Eyepatch From The Chronicles

    by Justin Sane

    ...Okay, since Indy will be "looking his age" and looking for excitement and whatnot, I wonder if he will have an eyepatch already (as seen on the Old Indy from The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles), or if he will obtain it in this adventure (since he might not be going on any more if he looks kinda old)... In any case, I have been wondering about the origin of that damn eyepatch since the show first came on the air...

  • July 19, 1999, 3:34 a.m. CST

    The Holy Grail and Eternal Life

    by Dr. Klahn

    Um...isn't it my understanding that Indiana Jones and his dad will have eternal life after drinking from the holy grail unless forcibly killed? If so, then how can pops get ill? If anyone has the answer, I'd like to know.

  • July 19, 1999, 3:54 a.m. CST

    Indy IV

    by Ian_in_London_UK

    Yuk - 2 to 3 Years wait! Personally I am looking forward to this. Hey Stewdog - who did you have in mind then - if not Harrison Ford?

  • July 19, 1999, 4:39 a.m. CST will take more than children to save you.

    by r_dimitri22

    That title change is ridiculous. In my mind, Indiana Jones *is* the primary "raider" of the Ark. To mention him separately makes no sense.

  • July 19, 1999, 4:40 a.m. CST

    This sounds more like Jack Ryan than Indy!

    by Drath

    Indiana Jones doesn't work with the government for any more than a few framing scenes. You CAN'T have him moping around for long before you throw him out into the wild adventure land! This sounds dumb, and I hope the Red Scare is nowhere near the main subject or the title! What's the opening sequence, a day dream where Indy is still "galavanting" around? Can we say lame? Bah, this is rumor is more hooey than the Area 51 and UFO bull. Good thing you stuck a disclaimer on this bomb, Harry. This is the real salt.

  • July 19, 1999, 4:44 a.m. CST

    To GenecentMan2, Re: Eternal Life

    by r_dimitri22

    My understanding based on what the knight said was that in order to have the eternal life that the grail provides, Indy or his dad would have had to stay at the Canyon of the Crescent Moon. Since they did not stay to guard it, the grail did not endow them with eternal life.

  • July 19, 1999, 4:46 a.m. CST

    Won't work

    by Alessan

    Just like the other Indy ideas we've seen, this won't work. Not the plot lines (although I agree that the alien thing is rather moronic) but with the character. Don't age Indy! Don't change him at all, in fact. The strength of the series is that Dr. Jones always ends up where he started - maybe with a new girl, but they never last. I mean, in essence Indiana Jones films are James Bond films with a twist. That's what Spielberg was aiming for, originally. James Bond never changes, never ages, never burdens us with existential angst, and neither does Indy. His films are great because they have a formula, and breaking the formula will break the film. Even the Last Crusade, with the introduction of his father, was walking on thin ice. .......... As to the guy who mentioned the Holy Grail - I think the idea was that if they'd continued drinking the Grail, they'd have lived forever. They left, so they won't.

  • July 19, 1999, 5:44 a.m. CST

    Best option to date

    by HagCeli

    This doesn't sound too bad for me!!! Basically, it's a nice idea. The storyline seems a lot more dramatic and interesting than the "Saucermen" shit and the campy "Excalibur" fan fiction. I like the whole communist thing, and making Indy's love interest a blacklisted occult writer is a nice idea. Setting the plot in bombed-out post-war Germany (at least parts of it) would be quite interesting. The good thing is that it's a FACT that there was a competition between the U.S. Forces and the Red Army in getting Hitler's artifacts. All they need is a _good artifact_ that could possibly have been in Hitler's posession, then I can see a great adventure here, given they hand the treatment to a good screenwriter (not necessarily Boam or Stuart). Oh, and please throw in a snow scenario - maybe in Russia or Siberia or even Germany. And what about some underwater archeology? Maybe Hitlers Fuehrerbunker is now full of water and they have to dive, "Abyss"-like to get in. Well, just an idea :-)) As for this scooper's storyline, I already heard about the same plot some time ago, so at least I don't think he made this up on his own.

  • July 19, 1999, 5:52 a.m. CST

    ugh . . .

    by fonebone

  • July 19, 1999, 5:55 a.m. CST

    by fonebone

    I agree with the source of this gossip that it's a "jest" of a story. C'mon -- will the climatic scene be Indy testifying before Joe McCarthy and the House Un-American Activities Committee? Bizarre. And hearing about the whole "eternal life" debate reminds me of how bad Indy III was. God, I hope they don't add in CGI scenes to "Raiders" -- that scene when they open the Ark has to be one of the best effects scenes ever, and there's no CGI!

  • July 19, 1999, 5:58 a.m. CST

    Come on...

    by Jonte

    Not another stoopid commy-plot!!! And which one is worse, Phantom Menace or Red Scare? Poll-suggestion, Harry? ;-)

  • July 19, 1999, 6:09 a.m. CST

    It's "gist" not "jest"!

    by Aerofault

    I doubt the validity of this scoop simply because of simple misuse. MiKEY

  • July 19, 1999, 6:35 a.m. CST


    by gold286

    Pardon but you have look carefully at "Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade ?" The Immortality works only if they stay behind the cross on the floor(inside the place in the Crescent Moon Canyon). You don't remember the words of the last Crusader "This is the price and the limit of Immortality" ? For me some new idea will be good. I don't think that the story plot MUST be as the other to have a good Movie. The big 3 know theyr job. Bye all Alex

  • July 19, 1999, 7:52 a.m. CST

    The first time I want to believe

    by gsolo

    Sounds like a cool approach. I always wanted Marion of all people to return but now that we may have a blacklistd supposed communist author as a love interest...alright. Raiders is amazing. I kind of hope a special edition falls through, although I would love a restored re-release. I also think Raiders is the best "looking" film of the 3. Now I'm feeling some excitment again. I like the possible title too.

  • July 19, 1999, 8:15 a.m. CST

    Olde Tyme Hockey

    by Kane

    I hear tell that 'Raiders' is being retitled 'Indiana Jones and the Guy With the Really Melty Face'. WHO GIVES A SHIT.

  • July 19, 1999, 8:18 a.m. CST

    "Geriatric Jones and the Flying Wheelchair"

    by Uncapie

    They'd better hurry upand make a film instead of bullshitting about it! 1. The actors are getting too old. 2. The new generation of kids won't care who they are. "Indiana who?" "Indiana who cares!"

  • July 19, 1999, 9:01 a.m. CST

    why "junior" and "Dad" won't live forever.

    by luthardt

    "The grail cannot pass beyond the Great Seal. That is the price of immortality" (drama drama drama) "Ilsa no!" (drama earthquake) "I can reach it" (drama death, carnage) "Junior I can't...Jun...indy." (Drama father son stuff) "Got lost in his own museum?" (Drama end credits) So as you can see, Indy and his dad *broke* the Grail for all of us. Thanks alot guys.

  • July 19, 1999, 9:01 a.m. CST

    Indiana that was the dog's name!

    by The Big T

    Well well things are beginning to heat up with all this crap. I am gonna make this quick like Harry did this guy is most probably feeding us crap and Spielberg aint gonna screw up the Indiana Jones trilogy allright he is a professional. Steve learned what not to do after he did 1941 okay. Big T out.

  • July 19, 1999, 9:07 a.m. CST

    The artifact in Hitler's Bunker is....

    by luthardt

    The Spear of Destiny. It is conjectured that Hitler became obsessed with the occult and some say he was demon possessed during most of his promnence. There are rumors that he horded many artifacts from Egypt and the region, but the most primary is the Spear of Destiny, the spear that a roman centurion drove into the side of Christ, thus pronouncing him dead upon the cross. Historically, at one point during the 15th century, there were 5 such spears all attributed to being the Spear of Destiny. After the disaster of the last crusade, they all fell into the hands of the local forces and none were seen again. The spear's legendary power is that it has the power to kill anyone or anything it is thrust upon. Television fans might recall the shortlived series "Roar" on Fox. There was a roman centurion character who was unable to die, but urgently wanted to. The show revolved around his unrelenting quest for the Spear of Destiny, in the hopes that it's power might permit him to die at long last.

  • July 19, 1999, 9:22 a.m. CST

    Re: Spear of Destiny

    by claymore

    Allegedly the spear of destiny is possesed by evil spirits that allow for control of the world by the person in possession of said spear head. According to legend, The romans lost it and the empire fell, Charlemagne had it, Napoleon had it and then it landed in a Austrian mueseum. Hitler visited it as a younger man and allegedly (again) took a hallucinogen (sp?) and received a vision telling him to possess this spear. when he invaded Austria he took it. Patton knew all this spear stuff too and made a point of taking control of it. He supposedly wanted it placed in a vault in D.C. but was ordered to return it. For more far out spear stuff look up Rev. Perry Stone. It's Apoca-tastic!

  • July 19, 1999, 9:37 a.m. CST


    by dfeddon

    A film projector CHATTERS as it casts grainy footage upon a screen. It depicts Belloq, clad in priestly vestments, and the Nazi hoard at the Ceremony of the Ark. Marion is ushered into the room by her toothless ward. Next to the projector sits Kreiger, watching the footage with intense delight. KREIGER: "Can you believe it? This, the single most conclusive proof of the existence of God -- dismissed as mere Nazi propaganda." He watches as the Ark suddenly pulses with bolts of power, then a plume of fire consumes Belloq

  • July 19, 1999, 9:53 a.m. CST


    by HarrisTelemacher

    Why do some of people (JJ Fong as an example) insist on attacking Spielberg and Lucas verbally because they don't like some of their decisions? It seems very childish and never adds anything to a Talk Back. I'm not saying you have to like their ideas but to simply say Fuck you is infantile. Add something a little more constructive please! And to fonebone (great name, BTW) I would like to hear why you thought Indy/Crusade sucked. Most people I know loved it and I would love to hear a counter-arguement!

  • July 19, 1999, 9:55 a.m. CST


    by Rogman

    Or maybe not.

  • July 19, 1999, 10:20 a.m. CST

    Better dead than Red Menace...

    by Fred4sure

    The Atlantis storyline is old, Harry, but the Red Menace has whiskers down to the floor and out the door. They were playing with that one before The Last Crusade. I think the next film should involved Indy going to Disneyland and getting heatstroke from standing in line for three hours to ride his ride. Marion could return in a dream sequence, wearing that silk number from the freighter. --Fred4Sure

  • July 19, 1999, 10:41 a.m. CST

    response to H.T.

    by fonebone

    I do not remember Indy III so well now, but I do remember thinking that the interaction between Indy and his father was very cutesy and staged; I didn't feel it was very genuine. I thought the plot was not very well thought out, and did not take advantage of Arthurian legend sufficiently. The Nazis were not a good enemy the second time around. Plus that blonde woman who was the love interest -- does anyone remember the name of the character, or even the actress? Everyone remembers Karen Allen as Marian. I liked II a lot better than III -- the opening was classic, and it had a real pulp feel. I hope Indy's dad is nowhere near Indy IV.

  • July 19, 1999, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Obviously Indy HAS to age, but.......

    by letseatcheese

    ...This story sounds utter shit!!! Indy, past it?? sitting around looking after his dying father?? getting married??? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! We all know Harrison Ford can still cut it in the action stakes so why do this?? We don't want a film where Indy is past it!! He is forever that hero we love and I can't imagine and shut out the thought of him getting too old to run around!! I think, of course he should be older but why can't that just be an added joke??? with a few Lthal Weapon style "I'm too old for this" jokes?? this would be great!! He can fall over a few times. If he gets chased by baddies (which I'm sure he will) Why can't he just get caught!?!?! or beaten up a little more often than usual! It would work. Just play on the age thing a bit, but don't stop him being INDY!! the non stop hero!! It would ruin our perception of Indy, I'm sure!! And the changing the name of "Raiders" sucks. It is a great title and should stay the way it is. The fact that it doesn't include "Indiana Jones and..." in the title helps the film stand alone! aswell as part of a fantastic trilogy! This would only take away from it's individuality! I think. Don't do it!. I don't want to have to refer to my favourite film of all time as "Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark!" No thankyou!!

  • July 19, 1999, 11:40 a.m. CST


    by HarrisTelemacher

    Thanks! I have to agree with you on the Ilsa Queen of the Nazi Love Camp character, blech. However, I have to disagree with you on the Junior and Henry scenes, I thought they had great chemistry. I thought the bad chemistry in the movie came from Henry Sr. and Marcus. Vive le difference!

  • July 19, 1999, 11:47 a.m. CST


    by PENGUIN77

    My friend and I have fully scripted a much better idea! Why won't the studio listen! Basic premise -- titled Indiana Jones and The Guardian of Eden -- follows Jones, an overly adventurous, eccentric Austrailan buddy and a former lover turned double spy in a race with the Soviets and the Chinese to recover the Sword of the Angel that kept Adam and Eve from re-entering the Garden of Eden. We tied in the sword to the legends surrounding Alexander the Great and even include a bit with Stalin's right-hand man, Baria, at a secret Soviet nuclear facility being built over the resting place of the sword. RJD

  • July 19, 1999, 11:57 a.m. CST

    You've got it all wrong

    by Dr. Dorkenstein

    Attributing the "Red Scare" to Russia is completely off the mark. The "Red Scare" in this instance refers to Red China. Indy battles the forces the Communism in China and faces off against their evil leader, the most ruthless and horrible foe he has ever met: Short Round.

  • July 19, 1999, 12:04 p.m. CST

    Why does he have to age!!!!

    by +Trustno1+

    Why the heck does indy have to age??? Look at james bond!!! I mean the man has had 18 films and a 19th is on the way. He hasnt aged!!! Lucas get a new fresh new actor and run with him. make himn rugged and like harrison ford. River Phoenix would have been a good choice here except hes dead. Now I know all you fanboys are gonna crucify me for this one. Let me first tell you all I am in no way a supporter of anything else this guy has done. As far as I am concerned he stinks. Leonardo Decrap.. I mean Decaprio looks like indy would look younger. Let the boy take the 2 years untill after ep 2 is done to go to school and learn how to act and then cast him(2 years older) rugged for the part of indy. Maybe harrison would let him come stay with him for a summer or two to learn from the master. If any execs or actors read this stuff you should pay attention. Dont make indy old and dying. I want a fresh young indy running around with guns a blazin and whips a flyin!!! Thats it. Let the flamming begin.

  • July 19, 1999, 12:43 p.m. CST



    He made HOOK! Woops. I guess we all have our bad years. ......................................................................................................... Anyway pay close attention to the "spear of destiny" posts above. They are right on the money. The Spear WILL be the artifact they are looking for in INDY IV, mark my words. As far as THE RED SCARE goes, I like that as the framwork,i t got my interest and I fuckin' love the idea of his love interest being a blacklisted writer. Fascinating. But you know what, I think that AREA 51 plot coulda been kind of a blast too. How weird would that be?

  • July 19, 1999, 12:54 p.m. CST

    How about the 'Brittany Spear of Destiny'?

    by Fred4sure

    She uses her spear-like singing voice to pierce your eardrums so you'll like her music. Indy has to use his bullwhip to crush her windpipe. I'd pay a dollar to see that! --Fred4Sure

  • July 19, 1999, 1:03 p.m. CST

    There is nothing you possess which I cannot take away...

    by DarthRavage

    I have an idea. Why don't they keep the IJ trilogy just that, a trilogy? All these "ideas" sound pretty God awful to me. Indy retired and sitting aound waiting for his father to die. How friggin' morbid can you get? And he has a girlfriend named Gladys. Gladys? Marion, Willie, Ilsa, Gladys. Which one doesn't belong? I hear the name Gladys and think of the nosy neighbor on Bewitched! Just leave us with the good memories from the three movies we have, rather than stinking it up with an obviously subpar film.

  • July 19, 1999, 1:15 p.m. CST

    Bruce Campbell

    by mayhemz

    Ya know I always thought that bruce Campbell would make a great Indiana Jones, in case they find Harrison Ford to be to old to do it.

  • July 19, 1999, 1:25 p.m. CST

    "Indiana Jones and the Lost Colostomy Bag"

    by Uncapie

    That's a shitty title.

  • July 19, 1999, 2:34 p.m. CST


    by Biggie

    i like that idea someone said about the eye patch. they should give that to indy to make him look bad-assed like john wayne in true grit sorta. bye the way after spielberg made 1941, there was still always and hook, so don't say he learned entirely from 1941.

  • July 19, 1999, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Isn't it about time Indy starts searching for Atlantis?

    by JFP

    Unless they intend on continuing the serie without Harisson Ford (which I doubt possible)...

  • July 19, 1999, 3:55 p.m. CST

    NO! Indy 4 must NOT BE MADE!!!!

    by Funmazer

    This movie must NOT be made! Why can't movies be left as TRILOGIES??? If you look at the Trilogy as a whole, it has a definate 'arc' to it. He he. Arc. Anyway. In the first film, Indy is basically an atheist. But, he is exposed to some of the powers of God. He's pretty blind to faith in Temple of Doom as well. Probably because it takes place before Raiders. (BY THE WAY. If they change ANYTHING in Raiders, even the title, I shall march to Hollywood and piss on it) I think the only reason they'd consider doing it is because the groundling people of the world call his movies 'Indiana Jones' be it the actual title or not. ANYWAY! By The Last Crusade, Indy's faith is finally put to the test, and he becomes a believer. That's basically what that film is about. It provides a kind of 'closure' for the trilogy. It sums things up. It ENDS things. Why must studios keep tagging on 4th installments? They always suck! They never made a Back to the Future 4. Because they didn't need to! Now, I think that a 4th Indy would have a HUGE opening. Bigger than Phantom Menace. Cuz guys AND girls like it! But anything they think up for it would seem tacked-on and pointless. Mummy was pretty decent, upon watching it a second time I really liked it. I'd rather see things like that than watch Indy get old, married, and chase aliens. Spear of Destiny, wasn't that the sequel to Wolfenstien 3D? ONE LAST POINT! No sequel should come out 15 YEARS after the previous installment. Bond works because they are consistant, every 2 years.

  • July 19, 1999, 3:56 p.m. CST

    Indy settling down??

    by Giant Fish

    While this plotline is infinitely better than the Area 51 hokum, it does present some contradictions regarding the character. One of the things that made the Chronicles so enjoyable was the notion that Indy, almost a hundred years old, still hadn't settled down. Sure, from time to time he would mention his grandchildren, but he was still a kid at heart. And he was still criss-crossing the globe, sliding down banisters, climbing trees, and keeping up the same level of expenditure as he did in his prime. Seeing George Hall's vigorous performance as old Indy made me lose my own fear of growing old. By all means, let Indy fight the Russkies, but in this outline, he seems a little too grumpy. And if Henry Jones is in the picture, let him be portrayed the same way. I mean, who on earth would want to see the Jones boys in a contemplative mood? It certainly would break the precedent that was set up in the Chronicles. It's a great and worthy addtition to the Indy saga, and shouldn't be dismissed.

  • July 19, 1999, 4:13 p.m. CST

    The Spear of Destiny...

    by gripper44

    I read a series of books a long time ago about a the Roman soldier, named Casca, that pierced the side of Christ with his spear and was cursed to walk the Earth for eternity. The series took place at different times over the centuries. One story even centered around the Nazi's and Hitler, who new all about Casca. Great Series- It was written by Barry Sadler (I believe) and it's been out of print for awhile.

  • July 19, 1999, 4:31 p.m. CST

    Indy IV

    by K Soze

    I was under the impression that the next installment of Indy was "Indiana Jones and the Lost Continent." Has anyone else heard this?

  • July 19, 1999, 4:36 p.m. CST

    It is not of this earth!

    by IAmJack'sUserID

    If there was meant to be an Indy 4, it would already have been made. I hate it that Spielberg and Co. want to make Indy 4 so bad, they forget they have NO script, no idea, no nuthin'. While good, Indy 3 is a step down from my no. 2 all time favorite film, Raiders of the Lost Ark. And leave the goddamn title alone. Indy IS the Raider of the Lost Ark for chrissakes. Raiders IS the GREATEST action/adventure film of ALL time, bar NONE. Guess I'll have to buy the tape since there is NO GODDAMN DVD yet. Hahaha....sunovabitch...

  • July 19, 1999, 4:38 p.m. CST

    Truck? What truck?!?

    by IAmJack'sUserID

  • July 19, 1999, 4:39 p.m. CST

    The Lost Continent

    by Giant Fish

    Regarding K Soze's posting, the entry for Indy4 on the internet movie database is Indiana Jones and the Lost Continent. However, that is the only place I've seen it. The Indy fan pages dismiss this title.

  • July 19, 1999, 6:35 p.m. CST

    Indiana Jones and the Rectum of Doom

    by Freud

    So the Russians have discovered a shit-tick perfectly preserved in Hitler's ass-crack and are harvesting its DNA to unleash horrifying biological weapons on our 50's suburbs. Can Indiana Jones stop this mad plot and still have time to change the sheets on his father's urine-soaked mattress???

  • July 19, 1999, 7:11 p.m. CST

    Yeah Right

    by Danimaal

    Anybody believe this guy works in a PRODUCTION DEPARTMENT? He can't even spell half the words in his sentences! If he really does work in production, it explains a lot about the direction most films are heading in these days.

  • July 19, 1999, 7:41 p.m. CST

    "Indiana Jones and the Lost Incontenence"

    by Uncapie

    What a pisser!

  • July 19, 1999, 8:24 p.m. CST

    A note on Chronology

    by Dolfanar

    Indy Jones and the Temple of Doom takes place BEFORE (1934) Raiders of the lost Arc (1936 or 37). Just a response to the guy who points out how the action flows from Raiders through Doom and Crusade. Crusade and Raiders are flip sides of each other, with Temple having very little to do with either. Crusade was a TRUE sequel while Doom was more in the Bond mold of sequels. After Doom, Spielberg and Lucas had a chance to turn Indy into a Bond like franchise but instead they chose to wait for Ford and make conventional sequel. I like this most recent idea best, but with the crap that Spielberg and Lucas have dumped lately I'm still more likely to believe that the gimmicky Roswell plotline is the one they're leaning towards.

  • July 19, 1999, 9:34 p.m. CST

    Indiana Jones and the Impotent Penis

    by Tall_Boy

    well, whoEVER will be his love interest in this obviously fake rumor for this NEVER to-be-made movie must know that Dr. Jones is in his 50's and Viagra ain't invented yet. . .

  • July 19, 1999, 10:57 p.m. CST

    "Indiana Joan and the Secret of Shamu"

    by Uncapie

    Marion comes back and assumes the role of the world class adventurer as Harrison Ford decides to do another "Star Wars" for Georgie-Porgie. This time as obnoxious Jar-Jar's long, lost half brother. What laughs will be in store! Anyway, Marion gets lost at Sea World and meets up with Shamu the kindly, killer whale, escapes with him via "Free Willy" style and searches for the Lost City of Atlantis. They get lost and end up in Atlanta instead and open up a exotic dance club where a killer-stalker preys on young, nubile strippers. A Golan-Globus Production. Directed By Roger Corman.

  • July 20, 1999, 1:18 a.m. CST


    by Dr. Klahn

    Thanks for everyone who cleared up that whole eternal life thing. It must have been longer than I'd thought since I had watched that great film.

  • July 20, 1999, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Tell you what they should do...

    by Isamu

    Forget all that being retired and getting old crap! Do one last movie like you always did, with Spielberg and Ford. Then what you do is write a new script, find a new young director (one that won't say "Yeah! I wanna do it!" and then move on to do something else!), and cast a new young actor who will commit for 4 or 5 movies. What have you got? A franchise that could be as successful as the Bond one. You think it can't be done? You think it's outrageous? Well, then, I bet you would have been one of those people who said they shouldn't get someone else to play James Bond in 1968.

  • July 20, 1999, 7:07 p.m. CST

    From Rectum With Love

    by Freud

    Sorry, Isamu mentioned Bond and I couldn't resist.

  • July 21, 1999, 8:38 p.m. CST

    Spear/Sword of Destiny

    by cjr71244

    The Spear and The Sword were created as a set by Tubal-Cain in 3061 BC, and they were later found buried by Pompey the Great at Masada in 63 BC. Pompey later gave the set to Julius Caesar {REF g}. - Caesar eventually gave The Spear to Longinus, who later used it to pierce the side of the Christ after the Crucifixion on the Cross, and he gave The Sword to Brutus, who later used it to assassinate Caesar himself. The Sword last surfaced as Excalibur of King Arthur, and The Spear is presently located at the Hofburg Museum in Vienna, Austria {REF g}. - numerical value of "The Spear of Longinus" = 224 {REF g} = numerical value of carab, which is the Hebrew word for cherubim - numerical value of "The Sword" = 79 {REF g} = numerical value of cherubim - numerical value of "The Rapier of Brutus" = 222 (NOTE: a rapier is a sword that is used for slashing and thrusting {as in an assassination}, and it has a long double-edged blade) Pretty cool shit

  • July 21, 1999, 10:50 p.m. CST


    by Eisner II

    Although probably bullshit, this plot doesn't sound so unworkable...personally, I liked the Atlantis rumor but that is probably bullshit as well. I agree with Harry about not trusting McCallum about having a script; he's never been afraid to twist the truth for PR or other reasons. As for the guy who says it is a mistake to age Indy, I disagree. Face it; Ford is older. To attempt to hide or completely ignore this fact would be disastrous in my mind. I'm not saying that they have to make him a boring old geezer, but the idea of Indy being frustrated by a lack of excitement in his older age is a good one, as long as in the end, he finds that excitement and is reinvigorated...

  • July 22, 1999, 4:46 p.m. CST

    Stick with supernatural

    by Snake Plissken

    Stick with the supernatural in Indiana movies FORGET aliens,We all know Indiana Jones for trying to find religiouse artifacts.Putting aliens into it would just be a sort of "hey we are trying to be X-Files" thing.Supernatural is not very popular among masses but its better than X-Files type UFO and Area 51 bullshit.

  • July 22, 1999, 8 p.m. CST

    Ring of Truth

    by James99th

    This is the first Indiana Jones script rumor I've read that has the general ring of truth to it. Sure, many changes can and will be made before they go into production, but this sounds like a cool premise. The "Spear of Destiny" theory some have posted here may have some merit, or there may be some other Nazi relic. We also know from recent Rick McCallum statements that Harrison Ford's age in a few years is a non-issue, so Indy will appear substantially older than he was in the last film. This is OK with me 'cause I remember how absolutely ridiculous Roger Moore looked in the last Bond he did, trying to play a role much younger than he was. Indy appropriately should be semi-retired and only brought out of retirement by an emergency. It sounds right that a major Hitler artifact falling into Stalin's hands could be that emergency. The McCallum comment that we should "watch the desert and watch the stars" is interesting too, but I believe this has been misinterpreted by many to mean the story will involve UFO's. On the other hand, finding evidence in Egypt of off-planet human ancestry is an interesting possibility. At one time this was to be the theme of Star Wars Episodes 10, 11 and 12--before Lucas made an early decision to scrap them. Wouldn't it be cool if he brought that theme back in the last Indy movie instead?

  • July 25, 1999, 10:33 a.m. CST

    "INDY IV" rumours

    by DWS1

    Great to see buz about this film but lets listen to the words of Lucas, Speilberg and Ford concerning "INDY IV" and not some wannabe who works in some company mailroom. DWS

  • July 25, 1999, 7:59 p.m. CST

    Spear of Destiny

    by Fawst

    Wow... that sounds so fucking cool it's scary. But as someone incorrectly mentioned, it's already a Wolfenstein game. Sequel, not a new one. It's quite old actually. But whatever, that sounds like a damn good plot, and not as obvious and accessable as, say, Atlantis. And come on... Ford IS Jones. There's no way he could be replaced.

  • July 30, 1999, 6:48 a.m. CST

    Ford or not to Ford

    by Jarrel Faxx

    ok ok ok... 3 years from now. Ford is not going to play Indiana Jones again...not at the ripe ole age of 60 So....they've done it with Bond and they'll do it with Jones... Who would you have play the new incarnation of Dr. Jones?

  • July 30, 1999, 9:30 a.m. CST

    Wait a second.... I thought Speilberg said no Nazis?

    by hamlet72

    Speilberg said that he would never use the Nazis as a protaganist in an adventure movie after making Schlinder. Does this fall into that category? I'm not to likely to believe this story....

  • Aug. 28, 1999, 4:54 p.m. CST


    by 7

    A single, sorrowful horn blows throughout this post as a dark figure approach the board. He taps his finger on the mic, producing a beating sound on the stereo surrounding the message board. Finally he breaks his silence. "Yes, people, I am the last poster on this TALK BACK. I declare it unpostable! Thank you." Boos and Jeers are toss at him as he bows.

  • Dec. 5, 1999, 10:37 p.m. CST



    i definately think they should make another indy movie...IF THEY CAN GET A GOOD STORY."Raiders" was by far the best and the other two dont even compare.If they can come up with something that resembles Raiders it would be worth it. This is gonna be the last so it should be as good as the first.They probably should have just made Raiders and been done with it but we cant worry about that now.Indy's final adventure has gotta be great and kinda sum it all up.I also hope Karen Allen returns.She was great in the first one and they owe it to her to bring her back. I also suppose they should give Kate Capshaw and Alison Doody a small role in the film just so they dont feel left out. As far as the age thing goes, i agree with that other person, they should just let it be a joke and not make a big deal out of it.Please make Indy be old and retired. If he's not the same hero he's always been, it wont even be an Indiana Jones movie.And beyond that it CERTAINLY wont be an indy movie without Harrison Ford! SO ANYWAY, IF THEY'LL GET A GOOD STORY AND KEEP HARRISON FORD AND BRING BACK KAREN ALLEN AND DONT MAKE A BIG DEAL OUT OF THE AGE FACTOR IT'LL BE A GREAT FILM.(OTHERWISE I WONT BOTHER TO GO SEE IT!)

  • Dec. 5, 1999, 10:42 p.m. CST



    *ATTENTION*...I meant to say Please DONT make Indy old and retired!I dont want n e 1 to actually think that i want that!

  • Aug. 14, 2006, 7:32 p.m. CST

    He travels to Canada for cheap medicine in this one.

    by Wolfpack