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Fascinating!!!! Official Prequel STAR TREK: COUNTDOWN Offers Giant Clues Regarding Spock, Nero and J.J. Abrams’ New Movie!!

Published at: Jan. 23, 2009, 3:11 a.m. CST

I am – Hercules!!
Major new clues regarding J.J. Abrams’s new “Star Trek” movie emerged Wednesday with the publication of Star Trek: Countdown's first issue, an IDW funnybook (billed as an official prequel to the Abrams movie) which swells my withered Trekkie heart. Spoilers ahead. Highly nuanced, fast-moving and continuity-embracing, the first issue of “Countdown” is a fabulous read scripted by two guys named Mike Johnson & Tim Jones from a story by “Trek” screenwriters Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman. (Italian David Messina is the artist, and proves adept at capturing a very old Leonard Nimoy and very hot young Romulan women; I encourage Trekkies and Trekkers of all stripes to seek this publication out.) Bullet-points: * The tale is set decades after the events of “Star Trek: Nemesis.” * A white-haired Spock is still living on Romulus, his home for the last four decades. * Thanks in part to Spock’s efforts, there is now a far kinder, gentler Romulus than we remember. “Curiosity, tolerance and diplomacy ceased to be forbidden words in the empire,” notes Spock. * Spock is no longer a covert operative. For five years he has served openly as the Federation’s ambassador to the empire. We learn that Vulcan, too, has established an embassy on Romulus, headed by an unseen fellow named Sular. * In the comic Spock is something of a Jor-El figure, trying to avert a unprecedented natural disaster that threatens to obliterate Romulus and its entire star empire. Spock implores the Romulan senate to seek out the more technically advanced Vulcans; combining Romulan and Vulcan resources, Spock believes, can prevent horrifying cataclysm if they act quickly. But the old-guard Romulan leaders remain suspicious of Spock and the Vulcans, and stall a remedy. * Having had a first-hand encounter with the deadly galaxy-gobbling anomaly, the Romulan Nero (long presumed to be the movie’s villain) is depicted in the comic as Spock’s staunchest ally. He is not a soldier but a selfless and heroic spacefaring miner and guild leader, a caring family man who finds himself risking everything to save his home, wife and unborn son. He is not a Nero content to fiddle as Romulus burns, and his face does not yet bear frightening tattoos. Remans, first introduced in the terrible “Nemesis” six years ago, appear late in the first issue, and I am encouraged by Kurtzman & Orci’s willingness to embrace elements from even the most disreputable corners of the sprawling Trek franchise. The final page of the first issue should also bolster overall expectations. (More in invisotext.) The U.S.S. Enterprise, commanded by Captain Data, comes to Spock and Nero’s rescue! It's not much of a leap to speculate that things go very badly with the galaxy-eater. Nero’s family and world, one imagines, will be wiped from existance and Nero will be compelled to travel back in time, to an era just before Jim Kirk’s birth, to set things right. And, of course, Nero's attack on a ship carrying Jim Kirk's pop sets off a mammoth butterfly effect. Which is why, in the trailers, Chris Pike’s Earth-built Enterprise looks like the Enterprise-F and Chekhov now outranks Kirk. Odd that this promotional tie-in funnybook fills me so with so much confidence for the movie, but dang me if it doesn't. J.J. Abrams says he was not a “Trek” fan before coming aboard the project, and I was frankly concerned that his overaching desire to bring “Trek” to a wider audience might supercede any reverence his Trekkier collaborators might have brought to the table. Subsequent to reading this first issue of “Countdown,” I find myself far less troubled. Say what you will about the failings of the studio-hammered “Transformers” script; I feel now that the Kurtzman-Orci team supplies geekitude sufficient enough to keep the new movie honest. Look for me in line the night of May 7.

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  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:14 p.m. CST

    who cares

    by Reckoner

    about freakin' Star Trek???

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:14 p.m. CST

    cool

    by j2talk

    jj saves star trek...thank you......

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:14 p.m. CST

    There are like 9 movies of Star Trek

    by Reckoner

    and we need 9 more?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:19 p.m. CST

    DOES THIS SPOIL THE MOVIE

    by ArcadianDS

    or should one consider reading it before going?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:20 p.m. CST

    Interesting

    by AstroNerdBoy

    Unemployed though I am at present, I tell you now that if I'm still unemployed when this movie comes out, I may go without eating or something for a while to make sure I have the money to see it (either that of beg a friend to take me as their treat).

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:20 p.m. CST

    I'm not convinced

    by Insane Tiki

    The comic book is not the movie, and the comic can tie itself into Trek lore as much as it wants, but the movie looks like it's trying to seperate itself as much as possible from what's come before. I'm reserving judgement on the film until it comes out, but I'm apprehensive to say the least.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:22 p.m. CST

    Still sounds like a time traveling plot crutch crapfest

    by rectalscan

    As usual. Nothing new or exciting.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:26 p.m. CST

    4 8 15 16 23 42

    by MrSentinel

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:27 p.m. CST

    Once you do another time travel story..

    by CeejayNightwing

    you know everything will work out perfect in the end and i stop paying attention. Star Trek is supposed to be about the human development and exploration. Not traveling back in time to fix things yet again. Been there, done that!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:30 p.m. CST

    Spock's mom appears to be vulcan?

    by MattmanReturns

    Huh? She looks human in the trailer.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:33 p.m. CST

    WILL IT BE 2009'S BIGGEST MOVIE?

    by BADBOYBROM HC

    So it's set after Nemesis? I wonder if the Dumb Data is knocking around somewhere and makes an appearence? This movie is gonna rock hard.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:35 p.m. CST

    I'm with Insane Tiki on this one

    by Gungan Slayer

    and im fucking tired of time travel stories in star trek.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:41 p.m. CST

    The comic's script sucks, seriously- heree's a direct quote:

    by YackBacker

    Spock says in the Romulan Senate "Friends, Romulans, countrymen- lend me your ears!" Brutal.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:45 p.m. CST

    YackBacker...Now thats fucking funny!

    by conspiracy

    Sadly you know somewhere Orci is thinking.."Damn..why didn't I think of that?!"

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:46 p.m. CST

    Officially Overhyped now

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    Merchandising, webcomics, this, that, and the other damn thing<p> My interest in this movie is fading towards the horizon

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:46 p.m. CST

    And yes..Enough Tome Travel...

    by conspiracy

    they have made it a non-event..all lifes woes and bad decisions fixed with a quick trip around the sun.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:47 p.m. CST

    and that's...

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    the light speed horizon

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:47 p.m. CST

    YackBacker

    by Boborci

    You got the quote wrong.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Time travel is a neccesary evil...

    by Voice O. Reason

    ...to reboot the franchise without ignoring the last 40 years.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Trying to separate is okay with me.

    by JumpinJehosaphat

    I mean, if you look at the sum total of what's been done with the Trek universe, the vast majority of it involves changing things up. Time travel occurred in TOS, The Next Generation opened the door to telling stories that weren't about the adventures of Kirk and Spock. If anything, this movie is more like TOS than not. Whether that's a good thing or not is another discussion.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:52 p.m. CST

    That Spock's mom line is puzzling.

    by rev_skarekroe

    She didn't look Vulcan in the trailer to me and IMDB says she's "Amanda Grayson". Not a very Vulcan name.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:54 p.m. CST

    Spock's mother...

    by Boborci

    is human.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:56 p.m. CST

    SPOILER ALERT!!!

    by 11ZOMBIES

    Captain Data of the USS Enterprise? Consider me intrigued...

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:57 p.m. CST

    Ok Bob, here's the quote:

    by YackBacker

    "Friends, Romulans, countrymen... we share the same ears!"

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:57 p.m. CST

    Referencing Nemesis

    by photoboy

    I don't think referencing and embracing Nemesis is really something that should be considered a plus point. It's more like a reaffirmation that this film will be shit given the company that it keeps.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:59 p.m. CST

    i hope its explained in the movie

    by IndyAbbey Jones

    i hate films that rely on you to have read the prequel novel or comic book, or even some webisode thing to understand the plot<P>it confuses non fans and to be honest some of us fans don't want to bother reading a comic book, we just wanna watch the movie and have every plot detail we need to know be presented to us in the 2 hours it takes to watch the movie<P>movies that try to take on every faset of media are ruining the world (hear's looking at you cloverfiled)

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:02 p.m. CST

    "not a Nero content to fiddle as Romulus burns"

    by newc0253

    props.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:02 p.m. CST

    And I found the comic panel here:

    by YackBacker

    http://tinyurl.com/ar4opu

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Star Wars trailer, never forget

    by technotranceporter

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgDB6Ac2rSc

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Please, AICN, please....

    by Dr.DirtyD

    Stop reporting your subjective speculation as news!! I know that last bit may sound like an oxymoron, but that question over Spock being full or half vulcan is an issue, only in the mind of the writer; just because Ryder "looks" Vulcan to him. The mention of Chekkov being older than Kirk is, also, not based on anything we officially know about the film and is based on this particular AICN staff's, very subjective, observation.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:19 p.m. CST

    I can't believe everyone isn't over at HitFix.com???

    by Puddleglum

    The power of McWeeny compels you! <p> The power of McWeeny compels you! <p> The power of McWeeny compels you! <p> The power of McWeeny compels you! <p> The power of McWeeny compels you! <p>

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Tiki....

    by Dr.DirtyD

    I think it's all perspective. You are looking at the project with suspicious eyes. I would say, personally, that everything so far looks, predominantly Trek faithful and what changes there are, in contrast, are quiet minimal AND negligible.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:21 p.m. CST

    Yackbacker - with writers like Orci, I'd be surprised if

    by Puddleglum

    a line like that WASN'T in there. Did Rob "Me did such a best job on Bayformers!" Orci write Abrams' new trek film? if so, I wonder who will get to pee on Spock's leg?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:23 p.m. CST

    Or do I blame Kurtzman for Bayformers excellet script?

    by Puddleglum

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:24 p.m. CST

    Bob Orci, a question about Hercs article...

    by Dr.DirtyD

    ...Can you verify: why does the article author say Chekkov is older than Kirk in your movie? He's just making gross speculations and assumptions based on lazy observation, right?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:31 p.m. CST

    I never thought that NEMESIS was bad at all

    by George Newman

    The action and special effects are awesome. Data and Picard share fun screen time together. <p>While the clone looks more like a young Dr.Evil, he is still interesting. <p> B-4 is a little lame (and his name doesnt make any sense if he was named before Data was built; it'd've been weird for the doctor to plan that far ahead in the android-building process) <p> I like the movie and prefer it over movies 5,7, and 9. I've got the 10-film, 20-dvd set, and NEMESIS gets more play than any of the above mentioned (as well as 1st, i barely ever watch that)

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:34 p.m. CST

    She's human, it was just fucking TBers stupid vitriol

    by performingmonkey

    When the trailer came out, many presumably dumb TBers were screaming 'why is Spock's mom a Vulcan??' just because she was featured in a scene ON Vulcan. Show me the pointy ears on Winona Ryder. That's right, you can't, because if you look she is NOT Vulcan, therefore making her human. Somehow the 'fact' that they had made her Vulcan spread throughout the community and some people still believe it. Well it ain't true, you stupid honk motherfucking dil-hole eating cunt rapers! Can't wait to read this 'funnybook' (hate that term)

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:37 p.m. CST

    you don't need

    by DrLektor

    to read the comic in order to see the movie, it's not essential. The whole point of the movie is to make trek accessible again, for too long it's been mired in the same technobabblish continuity hell, seriously, it puts prospective new fans off. Those treckers that have the knowledge to spot the changes "whaa? nipples on the enterprise?" are the ones who are enough into it to check out the comic too and get the details they need. The comic is also not so much referencing Nemesis as just plain referencing Trek in general. it's closer in spirit to the episode Unification than anything, that should be enough to get a few Trek hearts pumping. I got a kick out of seeing Data because, uh oh, he was dead, is this B4 taking his brother's name? By stardate 64333.4 those 10 or so years we've now passed by have added an air of mystery, sadness and potential wonder that's been missing from trek for too long... and this is just the freaking comic prequel.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:37 p.m. CST

    Agreed, George Newman.

    by NinjaRap

    My only problems with Nemesis are the stupid photo of Picard with no hair as a young cadet, and the total lack of reference to Data's fabled emotion chip. Otherwise that movie was good - hell, I thought it was actually pretty great. It raises interesting questions, has some epic shit in the final battle, and the performance of the guy playing Shinzon is awesome.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:45 p.m. CST

    Puddlegum

    by jackalcack

    You've posted the exact same plug in 3 talkbacks now, I'm beginning to suspect that you are a Hitfix plant. Maybe even Mori himself.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:46 p.m. CST

    For the Star Trek movies

    by maelstrom_ZERO

    <p>For the ST movies, I pretend that Wrath of Khan and First Contact were the only ones ever made. My geek conscience feels more comfortable that way.</p> <p>Personally, though, I think that J.J. Abrams is typically a smart director, one that focuses on relationships, character interaction and story rather than Bay-esque inspired stupidity. So with that in mind, I'm cautiously optimistic.</p>

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:56 p.m. CST

    Nemisis was much better than Insurrection. i hated that one

    by BMacSmith

    bunch of fucking hippies hogging immortality and screwing over life everywhere else in the universe! i always felt like he Enerprise crew was on the wrong side in that one. plus it just scuked.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:56 p.m. CST

    Nemesis

    by enderandrew

    I was one of the few that really liked Nemesis, though they wasted the opportunity to present good Romulan villians. Nemesis is almost a carbon copy of Wrath of Khan. I find it odd that most Trek fans praise Khan as the best, and Nemesis the worst, when they are basically the same movie.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:59 p.m. CST

    Was that the REAL Bob Orci?

    by raw_bean

    Was that yet another example of a Hollywood type appearing randomly on the TB to address the raving slavering public (see Walter Bruce Willis, Kevin Smith, etc.) or just some guy pretending?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:02 p.m. CST

    Agreed, George and Ninja

    by supertoyslast

    I only recently saw Nemesis and, because of its bad rep, I wasn't expecting much (something at least as bad as Insurrection). So I was pleasantly surprised to find something that, of all the TNG movies, played most like a fairly decent two-parter of that show. Patrick Stewart said it best in one of the interviews on the DVD: "A Star Trek movie has to be Star Trek - not just a movie which happens to be Star Trek". Nemesis was resolutely Star Trek. Not great Star Trek, but not awful either.<p>Also, I have no idea why anyone thought Spock's mother was Vulcan from the trailer. As she appears on screen a voiceover says (of Spock) "you are a child of two worlds" - or something like that. Pretty self-explanatory to me.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:08 p.m. CST

    raw_bean

    by jackalcack

    I think there's a strong chance that was the real Bob Orci. If you look at both his posts, one corrects Yackbacker on getting the quote wrong, which he did, and the other answers the question about Spock's mother being human. Would a pretender have bothered registering that name just to be all low key and dull?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:12 p.m. CST

    jackalcack

    by Puddleglum

    well, rest easy knowing that at least I'm not the real Robert Orci

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:14 p.m. CST

    raw_bean - yep, that's Bob

    by Sir Loin

    He frequently posts at trekmovie.com as well, pretty cool to get direct answers from the writer if you ask me.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:15 p.m. CST

    Puddlegum

    by jackalcack

    I've got your number Kurtzman

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:16 p.m. CST

    Kevin Smith

    by jackalcack

    ...So when did he post on AICN?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:17 p.m. CST

    That Boborci guy always pops up in these

    by conspiracy

    not sure if he is the real deal or not..but it makes me happy to think it is..so we can collectively tell him that given a pen, a piece of paper, and a topic; the typical government schooled, sub 100 IQ 10th grader can come up with a more well thought out, less insulting, and overall more entertaining script that the puss he pissed out for Bayformers. Fuck you Bob Orci...just take your ego, your giant paycheck for producing crap, and go fuck with something besides what we film fans like. Go Write a script for Tom and Jerry...you'd manage to fuck that up too; I'm sure..even though they don't fucking TALK a "Talent" such as yourself could easily make a mimed slapstick cartoon seem more innane and childish than it already is while searching for a new Audience. Better yet..go write for Teletubbies you fucking Hack...there is something even YOU couldn't possibly screw up.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:17 p.m. CST

    dirk, you haven't been following Trek long, have you?

    by BMacSmith

    Trek has always mirrored real world events, from the cold war to now. and i hate to break it to you, but the liberal hollyweird bullshit about Bush you keep speaking of happens to be the general consensus of the vast majority of the world's population, not some small fanatical speck of humanity. <p>Even though your precious fake conservative radio gods tell you otherwise, they don't represent most American's beliefs. thank god they are no longer much of a force in America. deal with it.<p> oh, and btw, I'm not a liberal so don't even bother calling me one.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:22 p.m. CST

    It doesn't say Chekov is older than Kirk

    by DougMcKenzie

    It says he outranks him. I assume the timeline change caused Kirk to NOT enter Starfleet at the right age (18?) He could be 25 now when he meets Pike, and gets pushed into Starfleet.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:24 p.m. CST

    Obama..Liberal?

    by conspiracy

    The guy whose VP all but called Russia and China enemies, and who plans on taking the troops from Iraq and sticking them on the Pakistani boarder? Who voted to continue the Dept. of Homeland security and voted to give amnesty to Telecoms for violating your right to privacy as outlined within their own user agreements? Ya mean the guy who put the Warhawk Hillary a secretary of State and kept Cheneys lap dog Gates as Sec. Defense? hahaha Change my ass.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:24 p.m. CST

    i liked Nemesis too.

    by smudgewhat

    thought the Picard clone was a creepy, interesting approach. but also looking forward to the reboot, accepting it as something entirely different from canon.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:25 p.m. CST

    "Bring Trek to a wider audience"

    by IndyCollector

    Still baffles me. If someone isn't a fan of Star Trek, they aren't going to go see a movie called STAR TREK!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:25 p.m. CST

    Now enough Political BS..lets keep the focus on a shared enemy..

    by conspiracy

    Kurtzman/Orci.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:26 p.m. CST

    Yeah Nemesis was good too

    by IndyCollector

    The plot is cool.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:28 p.m. CST

    Kevin Smith

    by enderandrew

    Kevin Smith posted on the talkbacks responding at length directly to several people, and then eventually started posting his responses on his forums. That portion of Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back where they go beat up "MagnoliaFan" was inspired by the AICN Talkbacks. It seems he reads them fairly regularly.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:30 p.m. CST

    Every Dumb, Superfluous Post on This Movie

    by Aquatarkusman

    Reduces my interest in it by 5%, placing me at 2975% disinterested at this point.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:30 p.m. CST

    nice to see some Nemesis love

    by BMacSmith

    not that it was that great, but there are much worse Treks. its in the middle.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:32 p.m. CST

    IndyCollector

    by DrLektor

    "If someone isn't a fan of Star Trek, they aren't going to go see a movie called STAR TREK!" why do you think that is? Now ask yourself, how could you change that?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:32 p.m. CST

    This movie is a bit of a curiosity.

    by OneBuckFilms

    It is a reboot/origin story, with a link to the original events for those who need it. One does not need these comics to understand the movie, and the basic characters introduced in the movie, but for fans like myself, it provides an explanation as to why so many things are different. This is actually a very bold solution that allows a lot more creative freedom without tripping over the 40+ year mythos. It also restores jeoprady to the movie, since we actually don't know how this new series of movies will end, or what the crew will encounter in the new TOS timeline. And true to Trek tradition, the story integrates current scientific knowledge and theory into proceedings.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:34 p.m. CST

    Hey BobOrci

    by Puddleglum

    I'd really like to ask you "what the fuck" on your script for Bay's transformers movie (the first one). But at the end of the day, you'll still be the one laughing all the way to the bank, not pissing and moaning about it on a stupid internet board. <p> Still, WHat the Fuck? Dogs peeing on transformers? The stilted dialog all over the script? "Hey you anorexic freak!" Bob, you are so much better than this, aren't you? What the fuck happened on TF? Is it Bay? Did he insist on the shittiness that resulted int hat script? <p> tell Bay FUCK YOU, I know how to write so stop making me look like an asshole!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:37 p.m. CST

    RE: IndyCollector

    by OneBuckFilms

    DrLektor, I think they are working to rid Star Trek of the geeky stigma it has in the general public conciousness by touting it as a "reboot", and "not your father's trek". Judging from the buzz and press so far, it looks like it's working. There's a reason Paramount are spending $150m on this one, and moving the film to a summer tentpole spot on May 8th.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:43 p.m. CST

    They need a proper movie to end TNG, which is by far the best Tr

    by dr sauch

    ORIGINAL SERIES SUX!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:45 p.m. CST

    dr sauch - "Original series sux"?

    by Puddleglum

    you lookin for an asskicking coming 'round here with that shit?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:46 p.m. CST

    RE: The comic's script sucks, seriously- heree's a direct quote:

    by OneBuckFilms

    YackBacker, The quote is actually "Friends, Romulans Countrymen... we have the same ears." Personally Ilike the line, since Spock has shown more of his human side in Unification and Star Treks IV thru VI. It is also hinting his diplomatic skills with the Romulans in that he realizes the importance of personality when getting people to listen to him. He puts them at ease so that they would be more receptive to what he has to say, though it still doesn't quite work in this case.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:49 p.m. CST

    Last week's news

    by randie1313

    They reviewed this comic like almost a week ago at www.trekmovie.com. Really any item that appears here about the Star Trek movie likely appeared there at least a day or two before.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:50 p.m. CST

    Lol, sorry Puddlegum, I couldn't resist.

    by dr sauch

    This is my very favorite place to drop massive flame-bombs. No, I respect the original series, but I really think that TNG is sublime storytelling. I want a final movie, with a good script, that really ends it all. They basically have to do it before Brent Spiner gets too old and fat to play Data.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:57 p.m. CST

    Hunh?

    by IndyCollector

    If you ask someone who hates Star Trek if they are going to see the new movie titled STAR TREK what do you think they will say? I'm guessing not YES.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:59 p.m. CST

    Star Trek's geeky stigma

    by IndyCollector

    Doesn't come from any of the TV shows, movies, games, comics, etc. It comes from FANS. And they ain't changing.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:02 p.m. CST

    FASCINATING!

    by dekionplexis

    If you're an asshole.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:06 p.m. CST

    Spock's mother

    by CharlesFosterKane

    His mother was human and his father was vulcan. It's always been that way since the original series. I'm baffled at the idea that Star Trek continuity is important to anyone who doesn't know that, since it has always been an important part of the character's history.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:13 p.m. CST

    Lost and Star Trek ties

    by technotranceporter

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgDB6Ac2rSc Support me. Please. I make horrible, horrible shit. Worse than the turds from Harrys ass...

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:14 p.m. CST

    Counting the Days

    by cutest_of_borg

    I cannot freaking wait until May.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:15 p.m. CST

    Capt. Data?

    by Seth_Brundle

    Starfleet is still oppressing intelligence. The smartest officer of the Federation was a Lt. Cmdr. on two Enterprises for over 15 years, and now in the even further future he finally makes Captain. Data should be the C in C by this time.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:26 p.m. CST

    Nope, does nothing for me

    by GeorgieBoy

    This thing is still a big "screw you" to Star Trek fans. Shame on Paramount for going with it.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:36 p.m. CST

    Re: Data...

    by MCVamp

    I liked TNG, but really, the most annoying thing about the whole series & films was Data's "growth" into Brent Spiner's idea of trying to break out of typecasting. Yes, you can sing and dance, Mr. Spiner. Save it for the stage.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:59 p.m. CST

    "Enterprise" may have screwed timeline up

    by Mike Hunt

    Didn't Daniels (the guy from the future) tell Archer that history recorded no Xindi attack on Earth in the 22nd century......yet there still was one on the show.....so the events as played out on Enterprise were in fact different than they originally were in the original TOS, TNG, etc. timeline......Yeah, a guy can go crazy thinking about this!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:27 p.m. CST

    Blame the Remans - Spoilers!!!

    by sirbroiler

    I haven't seen Nemesis in a looooong time. But I think next to B4 (a half-assed, obvious convention designed to allow producers to kill Data, but then bring him back later) the real failure of Nemesis was the introduction of the Remans. With the vast array of established alien species at their fingertips, why did TnG flicks rely so heavily on newly introduced species as key villians? Remans. Son'a. Picard Clones. And whatever. I hope the reappearance of Remans is exclusive to the comics and I pray they don't play any part in the film. In the inevitable Trek sequel, let's have Kirk and company encounter more of the familiar aliens in the Trek galaxy - but experience them in new and exciting ways. Important note: If Spock has been on Romulus for 4 decades - then Picard is probably pushing 90 and Riker 75 by the time Spock decides to go back in time. So I'm not holding out hope that they'll be around to help Spock with his time traveling in the new film. Now...Data (B-4 with a Data back-up file loaded) is a different story. A story that would KICK ASS on film.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:33 p.m. CST

    Nemesis blows ST:V outta the water!

    by FSJGuy

    I dunno what people are smoking, ST:V was the biggest waste of time in my life other than writing this. Meeting God? Worst FX since Plan 9 from Outer Space...Star Trek 5 is the shame of the franchise not Nemesis, even Insurrection was worse than that one.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:43 p.m. CST

    Biggest revelation - Starfleet went back to the DS9/Voyager unif

    by TallBoy66

    I wonder if we'll see it in JJ's Trek (before Nero/Spock get their time travel on). It isn't the DS9 uniforms all the way, but it looks alot more like that than the FC-late DS9 era black & greys.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:44 p.m. CST

    orms

    by TallBoy66

    I knew I shouldn't have thrown "Voyager" into the title header.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:46 p.m. CST

    Captain Data in JJ Trek would be amazing, though.

    by TallBoy66

    If only he's the one who sets up Spock for his time travel trip. Probably not, but it's nice to pretend, isn't it?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:48 p.m. CST

    Hell, I hope Countdown reveals that Nero was Ent's Future Guy!!

    by TallBoy66

    See, to me, that's a geekgasm that would fill a pretty big plothole. C'mon, gimmie a throwaway reference or something.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:55 p.m. CST

    Why do these dumbfucks keep saying holyweird?

    by locust

    Not clever at all, dumbass right wing flakes...

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:09 p.m. CST

    40+ years of trek

    by Prossor

    cant get ENOUGH OF IT! pile it on studios, fuck every other brand spankin new idea, fuck it in its ear.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:28 p.m. CST

    Ya know, I wonder if Shatner really does make an appearance

    by YackBacker

    I'm still skeptical of JJ passing up the chance to use Shatner. Something to ponder...

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:40 p.m. CST

    You know who's a buncha pussies? CHUD.

    by DOGSOUP

    Disabling their comment sections because they couldn't handle it. Devin's countdown to trek by reviewing every single OS episode is weak. Fuck you CHUD! Fuck you Forever!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:04 p.m. CST

    Re : Reckoner

    by Real Deal

    Well judging by the amount of posts here you are in the extreme minority. I can't wait for this movie! I have a feeling that this will be something really big. Bigger than Star Trek has been before. I don't know it's just a feeling. And usually when I get these feelings I'm right!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:32 p.m. CST

    RE: Shatner making an appearence

    by zillabeast

    Herc knows the goods on this one. He's been dropping hints all year long! Spill it, Herc!!!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:35 p.m. CST

    DirkBelig

    by quantize

    That's right, even in the 24th century nobody can forget what monumental assholes dubya and his looney redneck puppetmasters were same old right wing shit from you then.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:37 p.m. CST

    This does NOT takes place "decades after Nemesis"

    by Alan_Moore

    Trekmovie.com (the only site you need for Trek news these days) states that it takes place 8 years after Nemesis. And I tend to believe them, since Picard appears in this series looking more or less the same as he did in Nem.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:06 p.m. CST

    not enough Borg in this.

    by Boomers_Lips

    and not enough Seven of Nine.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:08 p.m. CST

    Red matter?

    by Lorquaine

    How can a single supernova, even a really really big one, pose a danger to the whole Romulan empire? How can a supernova destroy planets? (Like: completely destroy?!) How can an artificial black hole help? Wouldn't it be as dangerous after swallowing that star that's about to go nova? Is Spock really that dumb? And what's red matter? Maquis gone communist? That first part of "Countdown" is not Star Trek science-nerdy, it's total crap. Totally offscale pseudoscience. Hope the rest will be better.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:28 p.m. CST

    RE: Red matter?

    by OneBuckFilms

    Red Matter is more plausible than the Genesis Device...

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:41 p.m. CST

    okay that's cool.

    by Cotton McKnight

    The invisotext. If they can right, then I might actually give this movie a chance. Though, I do believe that how it happened in "canon" is honorable. It just happened to take place in a really bad movie.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:45 p.m. CST

    What's funny though is that this is "new"

    by Cotton McKnight

    And yet it borrows from old star trek movies. Goes back to "set things right?" Star Trek 4 anyone? How about Soren from Generations? Or the borg in first contact? Anyway.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 12:05 a.m. CST

    Actually, I got a real Superman Krypton vibe from the comic

    by TallBoy66

    So Nero = Jor El? Is that it?

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 12:14 a.m. CST

    YackBacker and others...you guys were serious?!?!?!

    by conspiracy

    About that "Friends Romulans..." bullshit? Really? I thought you folks were just fucking around! HA!

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 12:16 a.m. CST

    Spock has lived on Romulus for 40 years...

    by Bill Clay

    ...according to the comic book. The TNG episode "Unification" shows Spock arriving on Romulus in 2368 and Nemesis took place in 2379 (according to the trekkie wiki). So this story takes place roughly 29 years after the events in Nemesis. Maybe.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 12:41 a.m. CST

    a question about Hercs article...

    by Boborci

    Chekov is NOT older than Kirk in our movie.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 1:06 a.m. CST

    Stop defending that pos NEMESIS, will ya?

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    That's among the three worst Trek movies ever.<p>Now guess what the other two are.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 1:11 a.m. CST

    Steve Langford has a huge penis!

    by Boomers_Lips

    penis...penis...penis...penis.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 1:13 a.m. CST

    hey BobOrci

    by Boomers_Lips

    if Star Trek does well in box office, focus on the Borg next time. Reboot them back as the scary villains they shouldve been and ignore the Voygaer years version of the Borg.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 1:24 a.m. CST

    Captain Data?

    by KDog629

    Um...it's great that we're embracing canon from even the most reputable corners of the franchise, but if we're gonna honor canon, did anyone remember that Data was dead at the end of Nemesis? His "engrams" were downloaded into his prototype, B-4, but B-4 was more childlike than Data had been, even at the beginning of TNG. Are we to believe he skipped his entire Starfleet career, and is now a Captain, under his brother's identity?

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 1:43 a.m. CST

    Boomers_Lips

    by Boborci

    Noted.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 1:45 a.m. CST

    this actually sounds cool - why isnt THIS the movie

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 2:16 a.m. CST

    Fans should never be given control of a franchise

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Because if they do they come up eith this sort of unoriginal crap. Captain Data commanding the Enterprise? Please.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 2:18 a.m. CST

    kwisatzhaderach

    by Boborci

    Yeah. Captain Data. Cuz we said, "Make it so."

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 2:23 a.m. CST

    CeejayNightWing

    by kwisatzhaderach

    is correct. Star Trek is supposed to be about going forward, not backwards. I can't help but feel that doing the prequel/origin angle is a fatal mistake. We'll see. And re: my previous comment about fans being handed a franchise the best Trek movie was made by someone who had pretty much no knowledge of Trek beforehand.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 2:24 a.m. CST

    kwisatzhaderach

    by Boborci

    "And re: my previous comment about fans being handed a franchise the best Trek movie was made by someone who had pretty much no knowledge of Trek beforehand."<p> Not anymore.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 2:25 a.m. CST

    Boborci

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Props for making me laugh. I do miss Star Trek so I hope you guys have done something cool with it. But i'm a born sceptic.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 2:27 a.m. CST

    Boborci

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Yeah I know Abrams wasn't a Trek fan but i'm still pretty sure Meyer had only seen one or two episodes before taking over. Out of curiosity what are your top three Trek flicks?

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 2:31 a.m. CST

    Boborci - Please, Make Nero Future Guy!!!

    by TallBoy66

    C'mon, do us all a solid, willya? It ain't that hard for a last minute rewrite. Just to wrap up a huge dangling thread. Thanks!

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 2:33 a.m. CST

    kwisatzhaderach

    by Boborci

    2,3,4

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 2:39 a.m. CST

    SPOILER QUESTION

    by mynamesdan

    i thought data was dead though? isn't that the reason nemesis was so boring- because of all the extra added gush at the end while data 'did a spock' why did we suffer all that nonsense for him to not be dead? don't get me wrong- i'll be pleased to se him- but come on!

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 2:43 a.m. CST

    Boborci

    by Hercules

    What has Tim Jones done before?

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 2:44 a.m. CST

    Data downloaded his katra in B4

    by TallBoy66

    So, yeah, quickie reboot of B4's brain and, presto changeo, he's Data. No big deal. The original Soong android, Data, was blown to bits, but I'm assuming in Countdown / JJ Trek (if he's even in it), that the "Data" running around is for all intents and purposes the Data we all know and love, his body is just B4.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 2:47 a.m. CST

    Herc, Wizard lists Tim Jones as a "newcommer"

    by TallBoy66

    Take that for what it is, cause that's all there is to it, but I think he's a buddy/co-writer of the comic scriptwriter. Also, Herc, read more Wizard. Great bathroom mag.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 2:48 a.m. CST

    Hercules

    by Boborci

    thanks for the generous review. tim jones is writer we met a few years back who wrote for us on the short lived JACK OF ALL TRADES.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 4:05 a.m. CST

    Boborci - my 2 cents

    by andrew1911uk

    For what it's worth, I'd suggest going your own way with the francise and not pander to quick win fan favourites like the Borg. Leave them in Picard era. Paying close attention to some of the non-canon sources would pay off big dividends...in particular the books of Diane Duane and Peter Moorward. <Br /> In a sequel, I'd love to see the Klingons broght up to snuff as proper adversaries for Kirk...he was treated as their particular nemesis from a tactical viewpoint - why not a serious knock down, drag out tactical, lengthy battle with multiple ships - with Kirk being the tactical leader he is in non-canon sources.<br />The authors I refer to have done some spectactular things with the characters - I recommend the book 'The Final Reflection' especially.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 4:17 a.m. CST

    Chekhov now outranks Kirk

    by gotilk

    Outranks. Where did all these people get "older" from?

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 4:40 a.m. CST

    Should have been the movie...

    by I AM ROCKO

    ...I agree with the talkbackers above, this should have been the movie to reboot the Trek movie series, much more interesting to focus on the good Romulan Captain Nemo working with Spock to save his people, then through tragedy he has a fall from grace- a new Enterprise is shown at the end, introducting a new crew and the rest of the movies focusing on them dealing with an unhinged Nemo trying to take his pain out on the universe...

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 4:40 a.m. CST

    Smilin' Bob...

    by Rakafraker

    I look forward to a new bad-ass Trek that doesn't have to stick to continuity (but still does). Time travel was in TOS and every series after, and IMHO is (and has always been) integral to ST. <p>Also looking forward to the new Transformers movie. I'm hearing from friends in the know that it's way less silly. Hopefully the powers-that-be didn't pull too much of a Raimi/Arad on you guys this time. <p>With CG as good as it is today (especially after the Star Wars prequels (the cartoons included) and the Resident Evil movies (with exception to the voice acting-Imagine what a few extra $$$ would have done to improve the talent)) I'd love to see what original Sci-fi you could come up with. <p>P.S. I'd love to read Countdown right now, but I'm going to have to wait and order the comic online. There isn't a comic book store for many miles.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 5:16 a.m. CST

    Boborci

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Interesting choices, I've always felt 3 was kind of underrated. I'd plump for 2, 4, 6 although I have a place in my heart for The Motion Picture which was an AWESOME cinema experience for me at the age of 6.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 5:37 a.m. CST

    The spoiler part

    by InfinityWave

    TNG fans have to take what they're given now. Since Nemesis' failure we can't expect new stories outside of books and comics, or hope for any fan service in this new film... but still, it's sweet to see Data back in the approved continuity.<br><br> Perhaps the B4 prototype was designed to age at a normal human rate. Then if there ever were a new modern Federation movie, we could have Brent Spiner without worrying about any extra pounds and wrinkles. :)

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 5:38 a.m. CST

    Invisotext comment

    by The Chosen

    WHATHEHELLAREYOUTALKINGABOUT DATA??? CAPTAIN??? HE DIED! DIDN'T HE? Is this one of those "alternative JJ Universe" or is that B-4, Data's twin brother?

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 6:27 a.m. CST

    Great Information -- Marginal Comic

    by optimous_douche

    Yes, it was wonderful to get this information prior to the movie being released, but this was damn far from a good comic.<p> The art was simply marginal and in some places downright atrocious. Spock looked closer to Sarek than Spock (and don’t tell it’s because Nimoy is older, I saw the special trailer -- the man still looks like Nimoy) You really couldn’t even tell it was Spock until the close-up close to the end.<p> The beginning had more gaping holes than a Paris Hilton sex video. I only knew there was a mining platform because they told me in the text it was there.<p> I don’t expect great things from a movie tie-in book, but you can tell it was done by movie guys. Not comic guys.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 6:51 a.m. CST

    Most Trekkies hate Nemesis because...

    by TylerDurden3395

    It was essentially a remake of Wrath of Khan but with TNG cast. As a non-Trekkie, that's why I liked it. It had more emotional resonance than any of the other TNG movies and had a lot more action too.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 6:52 a.m. CST

    How about a scene where Spocks parents think he's masturbating!

    by YackBacker

    Like Sam's parents did in TRANSFORMERS. That would be fucking rad.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 6:58 a.m. CST

    John Bryne?

    by Dazzler69

    Is he the artist? That would be the only reason to get it for me.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 7:21 a.m. CST

    Yeah, if there were a Data cameo in this..

    by dr sauch

    I would swoon and piss myself with nerd-glee. Data is the best character ever.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 8:11 a.m. CST

    Best Trek Movie is Star Trek III

    by mattb68

    Always my favorite. Loved and still love Wrath of Khan but Search for Spock was the most a kin to the best story and dramatic tones of the better original series episodes.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 8:16 a.m. CST

    OneBuckFilms: Red Matter

    by Lorquaine

    You wrote: "Red Matter is more plausible than the Genesis Device." Maybe, but the Genesis device is, well, a device. I have nothing against Science Fiction inventing super weird technologies. But in terms of natural phenomena it shouldn't go completely over the top like gargantuan evil supernovae. On the "red matter" itself, I have to admit that I'd like to know how they explain it. At least it sounds interesting. :)

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 8:17 a.m. CST

    COMMODORE Data of the Enterprise-F...

    by BurnHollywood

    According to the link below, this was an alternate universe Enterprise featured in the Trek novel IMZADI. This universe is "triggered" by the death of Troi in 2368.<p> http://everything2.c om/title/USS%2520En terprise-F

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 8:27 a.m. CST

    My favorite Treknobabble gaffe...

    by BurnHollywood

    There was a "dark matter nebula" mentioned in VOYAGER (I think).<p> Dark matter is called "dark matter" because it's a nearly unknown quantity. If there was a nebula of the stuff sitting somewhere, it would cease to be known as "dark" and would be known by some other name..."gluxons", "helium-X", "vac-u-funk", whatever.<p> It's the equivalent of conclusively saying there's a big pile of "nothing" on my desk.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 8:30 a.m. CST

    wrath of khan?

    by BigDude

    Nemesis was NOTHING like Wrath of Khan. Good lord man, that's like saying the empire state building is essentially the same as the JFK building just because they are both skyscrapers. Khan is a work of art, Nemesis was a crappy movie. JJ is going to make a decent flick, I just don't think it's going to be what it needs to be as a star trek film.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 8:48 a.m. CST

    Ok, so when does this take place??

    by Alan_Moore

    I'm gonna need the exact line from the comic before I agree that it takes place decades after Nemesis. Trekmovie says 8 years, and like I said, Picard is in this thing, looking very much the same as current Patrick Stewart. Perhaps Bob Orci could shed some light on this?

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 8:55 a.m. CST

    AstroNerdBoy

    by Himbo

    If you have the discipline to go without food to save the money to see this movie, then I'd say you will have the discipline to have an income stream before then.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 8:59 a.m. CST

    Re : Lorquaine

    by Real Deal

    Well I haven't read the comic and not sure of your reference but Super novas ( even small ones ) wipe out their entire solar systems all the time out there. The power is simply unimaginable. If that happened here even pluto wouldn't be safe.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 9:03 a.m. CST

    Patrick Stewart

    by mynamesdan

    was born looking like a sprightly sixty, he will always that way. he always has. he's the timeline's best friend at this point, considering data's middle-aged spread.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 9:22 a.m. CST

    I Swear

    by skydemon

    Please, no klingon acne, no fat clumsy chief engineers, no marshmallows, no "don't call me tiny" lines, Please, JJ give us "LOST" quality on this movie. Those lame attempts at laughs in the previous films were sickening.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 9:36 a.m. CST

    Re: "the exact line from the comic"

    by Bill Clay

    Spock: "Romulus. My home for the last forty years."

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 10:06 a.m. CST

    New poster for the movie here

    by Abominable Snowcone

    in case you missed it<p> http://tinyurl.com/d9tfac

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 10:10 a.m. CST

    Seems everyday I care less and less about this.

    by mrfan

    Too bad. I was excited at first.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 10:12 a.m. CST

    Time travel: Gee, that

    by mrfan

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 10:12 a.m. CST

    is so original

    by mrfan

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 10:13 a.m. CST

    This comic seems like a desperate play for...

    by rbatty024

    the fanboys. But I'll take it. I, for one, actually enjoyed The Next Generation and Deep Space Nine, it wasn't until Voyager that the entire franchise started going downhill. It's nice of them to make nods towards continuity, even if it ultimately has to be sacrificed in order to inject life into Trek's bloated, rotting corpse. I'm looking forward to the film, but I honestly don't think general audiences are going to flock towards it. This may be Trek's Alamo. It was a valiant effort but there wasn't a sequel.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 10:14 a.m. CST

    Tom Paris would be a better Captain of the Enterprise than Data.

    by thecomedian

    or even Chakotay. I'm just saying is all. At the end of the day, emotion chip or not, Data is a machine. They'd never let an android Captain the flagship of the Federation. Though I'm sure that will be Data's character arc to deal with in this comic book miniseries. Maybe he's this tough, grizzled disillusioned Data who's seen it all and done it all. That's the only way I'd buy it. <br> <br> I always figured they'd do one more TNG movie with all the major characters from the spin offs either now on the crew of the Enterprise or playing some role in the story. On the flip side it would be nice to see Jolene Blaylock do a cameo as T'Pol in one of young Spock's scenes on Vulcan so at least we know Enterprise did actually happen and that T'Pol wasn't just a fetishized fictional titty puppet in Will Riker's holodeck spank bank.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 10:40 a.m. CST

    "The tale is set decades after the events of “Star Trek: Nemesis

    by OptimusBob

    At first I thought even though Spock is a vulcan, he must be dead by tjen. But then I remembered, He was reborn in "Search For Spock". Aging forty-odd years or so in a matter of days, maybe his extended longevity has a connection with Genesis.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 10:41 a.m. CST

    Edit:" Dead by then" not tjen

    by OptimusBob

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Found a simpler way of saying this:

    by OptimusBob

    The moment spock was reborn on the Genesis planet his longevity was reset, even though he aged rapidly on Genesis, he still had the standard vulcan lifespan ahead of him.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Boborci

    by Refuge5

    I'm a life long Trek fan - I cannot wait to see your movie!!! I'm trusting that it is respectful to Treks history but just what the world needs to put Trek on top and give it new life.... I enjoyed the comic also...

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 12:16 p.m. CST

    One way this new ST film will work....

    by blatz

    is if the LOST Island is secretly a Borg station and will soon be seen orbiting Romulus. Man, that would explain a great many things in both story lines.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Kahn Not Affected!!!!

    by Achilles420

    The sequel better be Kahn V Kirk round 1. Maybe Kirk kills him to avoid Spocks death from Star Trek II WoK?

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 1:22 p.m. CST

    Real Deal

    by Lorquaine

    True, they wipe it out, but a supernova wouldn't actually destroy the planets, since the star's matter would be too heavily dispersed. It goes in all directions, and is not focused on specific planets. It may fry the planets with gamma rays, scorch the planet surface, maybe even alter the orbiting path a bit. But a super-supernova that destroys the complete Romulan Star Empire, thousands of lightyears across? Come on! The star's matter will be propelled beyond the originating solar system, but will be dispersed further. Still hundreds of lightyears to go until the next system. Only the gamma rays are relevant. And nobody can tell me that even a super-large star can go nova and emit gamma rays that completely destroy all ozone and as a result all (really? all?) life on planets 8000 lightyears away. Such a star would probably be so huge and heavy that it would already have turned into a black hole. At the moment, this STCountdown outset doesn't seem very convincing to me. Considering that the writers are so fixated on scientific accuracy for the new film, this is not very reassuring.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Re: Did "Enterprise" actually happen?

    by Bill Clay

    Ships and planets keep popping up that are named after Archer, so I guess it's an oblique nod that the events of "Enterprise" did occur. I do like the idea of having T'Pol cameo, she would still be alive during Spock's youth on Vulcan.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Voyager did encounter a big pile of nothing.

    by Smashing

    They called it series 2. Badum.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 6:16 p.m. CST

    BOBORCI BOBORCI BOBORCI BOBORCI BOBORCI!!

    by EverythingEverywhereStinks

    I hope you get back here to read more comments, because I think this will be the only venue open to me so I can properly express my gratitude to you and the rest of the new "Star Trek Supreme Court!" I want to thank you so very much for reimagining Star Trek into something unrecognizable, then slapping a "time travel" label all over it so dummies can be fooled into thinking you know what you're doing. I also want to thank you and your boss Jar Jar for repeatedly telling me how camp and kitschy The Original Series was, and how it had to be euthanized and replaced by your superior vision of things. But best of all, I think special recognition for your skill at mangling science fiction/fantasy concepts has to go to the unique explanation you have given regarding "altered timelines." Only a master wordsmith could say that decades of history can be wiped out (that would be The Original Series era of Star Trek) only to have everything magically fixed by the time the future rolls around (that would be The Next Generation era). At the very least, you didn't resort to the trite phrase "A wizard did it!" and for that, you have my eternal gratitude. Joe Pesci bless you Bob. Joe Pesci bless you.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 7:33 p.m. CST

    by Yelnick McWaWa

    Damn right@ Just what Trek needed, fans who actually know what they are doing unlike Rick Berman!

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 9:37 p.m. CST

    Didn't Data die?

    by syoreed

    I'm a nominal Trek fan, so excuse me if I missed something, but didn't Data blow up or something at the end of NEMESIS?

  • Jan. 24, 2009, 2:51 a.m. CST

    Search for Spock

    by Prossor

    yeah put me in the camp for fav trek movie with this one.

  • Jan. 24, 2009, 9:33 a.m. CST

    TNG crew didn't scale well

    by The McPoyle Clan

    With the possible exception of Picard and Worf, the characters from TNG have had more cringe-worthy than good turns in the films. II/III were the zenith of the film series.

  • Jan. 24, 2009, 1:30 p.m. CST

    Re: "didn't Data blow up or something?"

    by Bill Clay

    Yeah, he did. He blowed up real good! Probably Data's robot twin B-4 has spent the past 30 years integrating Data's personality into himself and has taken on Data's name. If the comic tries to somehow bring the original Data back from the dead, then it's shark jumping time.

  • Jan. 24, 2009, 4:13 p.m. CST

    Re: Re: "didn't Data blow up or something?"

    by syoreed

    well, if it's all the same to the rest of Trek fandom, I'm gonna go ahead and assume that Abrams has decided to undo the death of Data. My wife and I were miserable when Data died, and the possibility of it just not happening is an appealing one.

  • Jan. 24, 2009, 4:15 p.m. CST

    Re : Lorquaine

    by Real Deal

    I'm guessing you are too familure with trhe power of a super Nova. http://www.windowpaneobservatory.com/ask7.html From that page : " 2) A supernova is such a large cosmic event that when astronomers view supernovae in other galaxies, that exploding star sometime shines for several days with the brightness of 10 billion suns. The amount of energy released is equal to a small Big-Bang. Not only would any planet nearby be instantly vaporized, but asteroids, nebulae, and even other stars could be seriously compromised or vanish altogether. A supernova is the single most catastrophic event in the entire Universe. " So any planet in range wouldn't stand a chance and would be vaporized. So it really depends on how far away the planets are. certainly withing that system anything would become vapor. I haven't read the comic but yes SNs do vaporize planets.

  • Jan. 25, 2009, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Data

    by Redmantle

    Maybe Data was experimenting in his tricked out lab on ways to "back up" his peronality subroutines and Jordi, missing his friend, uploaded those personality subroutines into that idiotic "B-4". Data is back, but he has mixed feelings about the embryonic consciousness that was B-4 now that Data's programs and memories have effectively written over B-4's. Who knows. It's possible. This is science fiction people.

  • Jan. 25, 2009, 8:01 p.m. CST

    IGNORE THE BORG

    by lynxpro

    They are ripoffs of the Cybermen. Since we are revisiting TOS fresh with this potential franchise, focus on the Klingons.

  • Jan. 25, 2009, 8:11 p.m. CST

    Is it just me...

    by lynxpro

    ...or in the original continuity, shouldn't Kirk have fathered a ton of kick ass offspring and not that weenie character that got killed off in ST III which had absolutely no impact on the audience? Kirk should have fathered an epic son along the likes of Alexander the Great and not Brian Boitano (sic) with a cracker perm.