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2009 Academy Award Nominations Are In!!!

Published at: Jan. 22, 2009, 8:50 a.m. CST

Harry here with the Oscar Noms... Best actor:

Richard Jenkins - THE VISITOR Frank Langella - FROST/NIXON Sean Penn - MILK Brad Pitt - The Curious Case of Benjamin Button Mickey Rourke - The Wrestler

This is an excellent selection. You should definitely seek out THE VISITOR, of the above nominated performances it is the most obscure for many of you, but in many ways the most subtly brilliant. I'm rooting for Mickey.

Best Actress

Anne Hathaway - Rachel Getting Married Angelina Jolie - Changeling Melissa Leo - Frozen River Meryl Streep - Doubt Kate Winslet - The Reader

Anne is great in RACHEL GETTING MARRIED, but frankly none of the performances above really struck me. This was a weak year for interesting roles for actresses. Writers - get your shit together, give these ladies better films, which goes doubly for Hollywood producers and studios!

Best Supporting Actor

Josh Brolin - Milk Robert Downey Jr. - Tropic Thunder Phillip Seymour Hoffman - Doubt Heath Ledger - The Dark Knight Michael Shannon - Revolutionary Road

Heath should get this, but this is one of the toughest categories in terms of performances. But none touch that Joker performance. Besides - The Academy fucked up not nominating DARK KNIGHT over that tepid forgettable READER flick.

Best Supporting Actress

Amy Adams - Doubt Penelope Cruz - Vicky Cristina Barcelona Viola Davis - Doubt Taraji P Henson - The Curious Case of Benjamin Button Marisa Tomei - The Wrestler

I hope to God that Marisa Tomei wins, her role in THE WRESTLER was the best work by an Actress in film this year.

Best Animated Feature Film

BOLT KUNG FU PANDA WALL-E

And the winner is WALL-E

Best Art Direction

Changeling - James J. Murakami, Gary Fettis The Curious Case of Benjamin Button - Donald Graham Burt, Victor J. Zolfo The Dark Knight - Nathan Crowley, Peter Lando The Duchess - Michael Carlin, Rebecca Alleway Revolutionary Road - Kristi Zea, Debra Schutt

I actually feel that BENJAMIN BUTTON should take this, the art direction was stunning.

Best Cinematography

Changeling - Tom Stern The Curious Case of Benjamin Button - Claudio Miranda The Dark Knight - Wally Pfister The Reader - Chris Menges, Roger Deakins Slumdog Millionaire - Anthony Dod Mantle

I again side with Benjamin Button here.

Best Costume Design

Australia - Catherine Martin The Curious Case of Benjamin Button - Jacqueline West The Duchess - Michael O'Connor Milk - Danny Glicker Revolutionary Road - Albert Wolsky

Bet this will go to THE DUCHESS, though the best costume of the year was everything on Heath in The Dark Knight.

Best Director

The Curious Case of Benjamin Button - David Fincher Frost/Nixon - Ron Howard Milk - Gus Van Sant The Reader - Stephen Daldry Slumdog Millionaire - Danny Boyle

Slide Chris Nolan over Stephen Daldry's name and Dark Knight over The Reader and I'd be happy.

Best Feature Documentary

The Betrayal (Nerakhoon) - Ellen Kuras, Thavisouk Phrasavath Encounters at the End of the World - Werner Herzog, Henry Kaiser The Garden - Scott Hamilton Kennedy Man on Wire - James Marsh, Simon Chinn Trouble the Water - Tia Lessin, Carl Deal

I'm so happy with this line up. The best is MAN ON WIRE, but I have to say... I'd love to see Werner Herzog with a microphone to address the planet with.

Best Documentary Short Film

The Conscience of Nhem En - Steven Okazaki The Final Inch - Irene Taylor Brodsky, Tom Grant Smile Pinki - Megan Mylan The Witness - From the Balcony of Room 306 - Adam Pertofsky, Margaret Hyde

The Final Inch is not a film about my weight loss and lengthening penis.

Best Editing

The Curious Case of Benjamin Button - Kirk Baxter, Angus Wall The Dark Knight - Lee Smith Frost/Nixon - Mike Hill, Dan Hanley Milk - Elliot Graham Slumdog Millionaire - Chris Dickens

This should go to Slumdog of the 5, simply great editing.

Best Foreign Language Film

The Baader Meinhof Complex - Germany The Class - France Departures - Japan Austria - Revanche Waltz with Bashir - Israel

I feel WALTZ WITH BASHIR should and will win this one.

Best Makeup

The Curious Case of Benjamin Button - Greg Cannom The Dark Knight - John Caglione, Jr., Conor O'Sullivan Hellboy II: The Golden Army - Mike Elizalde, Thom Floutz

Well... This is THE hardest category this year. The work in Benjamin Button is exquisite. Heath's Joker make-up was brilliant and iconic above any other work for the year. Hellboy 2 was the best creature make-up of the year. It'll be interesting to see where the Academy votes. I'm not even sure how I'd vote.

Best Music (Score)

The Curious Case of Benjamin Button - Alexandre Desplat Defiance - James Newton Howard Milk - Danny Elfman Slumdog Millionaire - A.R. Rahman WALL-E - Thomas Newman

Hopefully they'll go with Slumdog here.

Best Original Song

WALL-E - "Down to Earth" Slumdog Millionaire - "Jai Ho" Slumdog Millionaire - "O Saya"

Hmmmm... so the biggest singing name on the Oscar stage this year is Peter Gabriel, then there's two truly great foreign language songs! Quality won out, but don't expect any of them to keep audiences at home in their seats sadly.

BEST PICTURE

The Curious Case of Benjamin Button Frost/Nixon Milk The Reader Slumdog Millionaire

An absolute travesty. Of this group, I'd have to side with Slumdog or Benjamin Button

Best Animated Short Film

La Maison de Petits Cubes - Kunio Kato Lavatory - Lovestory - Konstantin Bronzit Oktapodi - Emud Mokhberi, Thierry Marchand Presto - Doug Sweetland This Way Up - Alan Smith, Adam Foulkes

PRESTO is my all time favorite Pixar short. I really hope it wins.

Best Live Action Short Film

Auf der Strecke (On the Line) - Reto Caffi Manon on the Asphalt - Elizabeth Marre, Olivier Pont New Boy - Steph Green, Tamara Anghie The Pig - Tivi Magnusson, Dorte Høgh Spielzeugland (Toyland) - Jochen Alexander Freydank

Haven't seen any of these yet.

Best Sound Editing

The Dark Knight - Richard King Iron Man - Frank Eulner, Christopher Boyes Slumdog Millionaire - Tom Sayers WALL-E - Ben Burtt, Matthew Wood Wanted - Wylie Stateman

Ben Burtt, go get your umpteenth Oscar

Best Sound Mixing

The Curious Case of Benjamin Button - David Parker, Michael Semanick, Ren Klyce, Mark Weingarten The Dark Knight - Lora Hirschberg, Gary Rizzo, Ed Novick Slumdog Millionaire - Ian Tapp, Richard Pryke, Resul Pookutty WALL-E - Tom Myers, Michael Semanick, Ben Burtt Wanted - Chris Jenkins, Frank A. Montaño, Petr Forejt

Ben, get your umpteenth +1 oscar

Best Visual Effects

The Curious Case of Benjamin Button - Eric Barba, Steve Preeg, Burt Dalton, Craig Barron The Dark Knight - Nick Davis, Chris Corbould, Tim Webber, Paul Franklin Iron Man - John Nelson, Ben Snow, Dan Sudick, Shane Mahan

I have to say... I go with BENJAMIN BUTTON here. The work that was done on Brad and Cate to age and to make them younger was nothing short of brilliant. Little old Benjamin is the most amazing effects job in the service to cinematic story telling that I've seen this year.

Best Adapted Screenplay

The Curious Case of Benjamin Button - Eric Roth, Robin Swicord Doubt - John Patrick Shanley Frost/Nixon - Peter Morgan The Reader - David Hare Slumdog Millionaire - Simon Beaufoy

I'd actually go with Peter Morgan and Frost/Nixon here.

Best Original Screenplay

Frozen River - Courtney Hunt Happy-Go-Lucky - Mike Leigh In Bruges - Martin McDonagh Milk - Dustin Lance Black WALL-E - Andrew Stanton, Jim Reardon, Pete Docter

Here I'd like to see WALL-E to get it. Just great work here, the story telling and scene creation was brilliant. Andrew, Jim and Pete crafted something wholly original and stunning that managed to amuse and provoke rather deep thoughts all at the same time.

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  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:21 a.m. CST

    First

    by batomm

    The Dark Knight gets the shaft

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:21 a.m. CST

    No DARK KNIGHT best pic.

    by Gilkuliehe

    Bummer. Yaaay IN BRUGES script!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:21 a.m. CST

    Forrest Gump 2 gets 12!!!

    by tile_mcgillus

    You have got to be fucking kidding me.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:21 a.m. CST

    Hooray for Robert Downey Jr!

    by DerLanghaarige

    But even after Crash won the Best Picture Oscar I didn't expect the Academy to go that low and nominate Heath Ledger as the most popular dead celebrity of 2008.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:21 a.m. CST

    Richard Jennkins instead of Clint Eastwood?

    by rainbowtrout1265

    And The Reader instead of TDK? Hollywood must be trying to turn off the mainstream audience and decrease viewership.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:22 a.m. CST

    Batman got shafted

    by wildphantom07

    8 nominations, including art direction, editing and cinematography. and no picture or director nomination??? <p> The Reader has come out of nowhere. Where was that on all the best of the year lists from the critics? <p> Awesome nod for Richard Jenkins in The Visitor - well deserved <p> 6 for Wall-E - nice

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:22 a.m. CST

    Ugh

    by Yeah I Wrote That

    Slumdog should be a lock here. Yay for In Bruges and yay for Michael Shannon. Underwhelming choices abound.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:22 a.m. CST

    First

    by JayWells87

    Wow, the Reader puled some major upsets

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:22 a.m. CST

    AMPAS dropped the ball on this one

    by Zeegloo

    Take a fucking bow.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:23 a.m. CST

    How they dare?

    by MrFloppy

    Come on! It's not that The Reader is a bad one, it's great, but it was MISSED from the entire awards season!!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:23 a.m. CST

    Cue the DARK KNIGHT wailing and gnashing

    by Nordling

    I'm more bugged about the Springsteen snub.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:23 a.m. CST

    THE DARK KNIGHT was a good film...

    by Mockingbird Girl

    ...but not a great one. I applaud the nomination of Heath Ledger, but agree with the Academy that it wasn’t one of the five best of the year. Hell, I didn’t even think it was the best *superhero* movie of the year - IRON MAN was loads more fun, and less portentous.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:23 a.m. CST

    And yaaay, finally a Make Up nom for the Hellboy crew!

    by DerLanghaarige

    They got robbed for the first movie.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:23 a.m. CST

    let me commence the bitching

    by Juror Number 8

    no dark knight for director or best picture = academy insanity. haven't they gotten it through their pretentious skulls yet that the general public only give a shit about the oscars when a super smash hit is nominated in the major awards. if memory serves, the highest rated viewership in recent history was when titanic was nominated for everything.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:23 a.m. CST

    Surprised by Downey's vote.

    by npjs55

    Ok role and acting.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:24 a.m. CST

    BULLSHIT!!!

    by SkidMarkedUndies

    NO DARK KNIGHT FOR BEST PICTURE/DIRECTOR?!?! TRAVESTY! BUTTON GETS 12? BULLSHIT!!!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:24 a.m. CST

    The Reader? No Eastwood? No Knight?

    by Crash115

    Seriously?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:25 a.m. CST

    And I seriously agree about the FX nominees.

    by DerLanghaarige

    Okay, I only know Ben Button from the trailers, but Iron Man made me always wonder where the CG stopped and the practical effects started and TDK made even most viewers believe that Two Face was the only CGI effect in the whole movie!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:25 a.m. CST

    Boring, Predictable Nominations

    by topaz4206

    Especially Button for Best Picture. BEST PICTURE?!!?!?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:25 a.m. CST

    AND NO SPRINGSTEEN!?!?

    by SkidMarkedUndies

    DOES HOLLYWOOD HAVE THEIR HEAD UP THEIR ASS!?!?!?! OMFG I'M SO PISSED!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:26 a.m. CST

    and more bitching

    by Juror Number 8

    why the fuck wouldn't springsteen get nominated for best song. even without the visuals of the wrestler, that song is still fantastic. did we really need BOTH songs from slumdog millionaire? also, i didn't see happy-go-lucky but i thought it would've been really cool if sally whatsherface was nominated for best actress. and seriously academy, the reader? the motherfucking reader??!!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:26 a.m. CST

    13?! yikes

    by The Shyster

    suck on that Pitt cock!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:26 a.m. CST

    At lease ledger got his - RIP

    by npjs55

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:26 a.m. CST

    At least a little love for IRON MAN

    by Seth Brundle

    just visual effects, ...better than nothing i guess , and Batman on best picture....well, dreaming was nice while it lasted

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:27 a.m. CST

    I Was Proven Right About TDK--No Best Pic Or Director Noms

    by Media Messiah

    Told you. Chris Nolan is hacktacular??? Dark Knight completely sucked!!!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:27 a.m. CST

    BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN ROBBED

    by IndoorPlumbing

    This makes no sense. NO SENSE.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:27 a.m. CST

    No TDK = Geeks attempt suicide

    by lb

    I loved TDK but am not bothered at all by it not getting a nod. It really was not that great but it was better than Milk and Button

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:27 a.m. CST

    by Droid

    Rourke will win Best Actor. Pitt shouldn't be nominated. Colin Farrell should have been for In Bruges.<p>Come to think of it, where the fuck are In Bruges' nominations? It was the best film of the year.<p>The Reader? Fuck off! Kate Winslets statue chasing is starting to get on my fucking nerves. She should not have been nominated of for Rev Road. Michael Shannon as supporting actor? Yes, definitely. He was brilliant. But Kate Winslet can fuck right off.<p>Where the fuck is Jason Butler Harner's nom for Changeling? The guy was awesome.<p>As much as I like him, Downey Jr can fuck off as well. Tropic Thunder was okay, but his role was a fucking gimmick, not a character.<p>Frost/Nixon? Fuck off! Langella maybe deserved a nom. Maybe. But the flick was average at best.<p>These noms are pretty shit.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:28 a.m. CST

    FUCK THIS SHIT.

    by Pennsy

    All of it. No Dark Knight in Picture, Director or Adapted Screenplay, no peace.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:29 a.m. CST

    No Wall-E for Best Picture!?!?!?!??!

    by mvckalel

    Forget TDK, but no Wall-E?? Come on...

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:29 a.m. CST

    Okay, that Nolan isn't nominated as director is...

    by DerLanghaarige

    ...slightly disappointing. Yes, I don't think that TDK was THAT good, but he directed the whole movie without a 2nd unit and managed to make many people believe that they are watching a groundbreaking masterpiece. If this isn't award worthy, I don't know what is.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:29 a.m. CST

    lol what's with the TDK bashing guys

    by Stickman83

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:29 a.m. CST

    BOYCOTT

    by IndoorPlumbing

    Need I say more?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:29 a.m. CST

    things i was pleasantly surprised about

    by Juror Number 8

    i walked out of revolutionary road thinking that michael shannon deserves an oscar for this performance (though it should really go to heath). apparently when i talk, the academy listens. i was also surprised at hellboy 2, which was a cool surprise. i haven't seen frozen river or the visitor, but its nice to see mellisa leo and richard jenkins get some much deserved love for their long career as unknown character actors. i've loved jenkins since flirting with disaster and he really showed he was a great actor on six feet under. also, best screenplay for wall-e!!!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:29 a.m. CST

    Jenkins Deserved It Over Eastwood

    by mrbeaks

    Great call by the Academy. Winslet not getting a Supporting Actress nomination for THE READER is the biggest surprise (other than THE READER being the dark horse BP nominee over DOUBT).

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:30 a.m. CST

    TDK for Best Editing?

    by yodalovesyou

    I thought it was annoying. Undermining the great comedy moment where The Joker washes his hands with sanitizer by sticking it in the middle of Bruce trying to save Reese's life was one of the worst editing decisions ever. Nolan obviously can't do linear storytelling all that well. Ledger should be a sure-bet, if not, fuck 'em. Would like to see Sean Penn take actor. Everything else, I'm indifferent to.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:30 a.m. CST

    lol what's with the TDK bashing guys

    by Stickman83

    do you really think tiny stones like you people will change the overwhelming tide of praise for TDK? no one thinks you're "cool" for thinking that... only you guys. only you.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:30 a.m. CST

    Was pissed about Dark Knight until I remember...

    by sambafreak13

    it's kinda silly to judge art in the first place, right? Sure, TDK was in my top 5 but the whole "best" thing is kinda silly...so the Academy voters didn't like it as much as those 5 other movies...doesn't make it any less awesome. Frost/Nixon, Benjamin Button, and Slumdog were all great movies...still need to see the other 2. Nording: Good call on Springsteen...they only nominated 3 songs, they couldn't throw one more in there?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:30 a.m. CST

    I'm seriously surprised by Mickey Rourke's nominee.

    by DerLanghaarige

    Not that I think he was bad (I haven't seen it yet), but I always believed that the academy downright hated him.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:30 a.m. CST

    Jolie, Downey Jr?? Oh please

    by Gungan Slayer

    the rest of the acting nods I'm ok with, although, I'm surprised to see Eastwood didn't get much love this year, what with two films out.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:31 a.m. CST

    Academy to American moviegoers: FRAK YOU.

    by Pennsy

    The Visitor: $9.4m total boxoffice <p> Frozen River: $2.3m <p> Frost/Nixon: $8.8m <p> The Reader: 7.9m <p> Rachel Getting Married: $10.7m <p> The Wrestler: $5.5m <p> The Dark Knight: $531 million If that's not just bending and submitting to the arthouse circuit, I'm not sure what does.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:31 a.m. CST

    Benjamin Buttons Is The Film!!!

    by Media Messiah

    The Messiah called it again, well in advance!!!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:31 a.m. CST

    DK is not as good as you think it is.

    by estacado1

    Just like Children Of Men, it's not as good you think it is. Just because it has long sequences of single-shot scenes, it doesn't make a good movie great. And just because Heath Ledger is dead, doesn't make a good movie like DK great.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:31 a.m. CST

    Why Springsteen was snubbed ...

    by Lou C.

    He didn't get nominated because the song wasn't eligible. The Academy refuses to change it's antiquated rules, so since Springsteen put "The Wrestler" on his new album, that disqualifies it from contention. The song must appear only on the film's soundtrack and cannot have been released in any other form. It really is silly. He wrote the song for the movie, at Rourke's request, then later added it to his album because he liked it. They're making the category irrelevant. Some interesting choices here. If you're going to nominate Downey for Tropic Thunder, though, where's the buzz for Russell Brand in Forgetting Sarah Marshall? "I was going to listen to that ... but then I just went on livin' my life." Genius.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:32 a.m. CST

    CRASH, CHICAGO, TITANIC, DEPARTED, SHAKESPEARE

    by chetedawg

    all "good" movies at best. all heralded as "best pictures" in film history. AND THEY CANT EVEN NOMINATE DARK KNIGHT FOR BEST SCORE, LET ALONE PICTURE, DIRECTOR, ADAPTED SCREENPLAY, ETC.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:32 a.m. CST

    Fck Button! It wasn't that good...

    by mvckalel

    Oh, and Hellboy II should've been nominated for audio cinematography, but specially for cosutmes...

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:33 a.m. CST

    Harvey at it again?

    by Crash115

    It's been 10 years since Harvey W. orchestrated the theft of the Oscar from the classic Saving Private Ryan for his whispy romance Shakespeare in Love. Now he is at it again with The Reader. Certainly not a bad film, but not a memorable one either. 10 years from now, people will look back and say "how did that happen?"

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:33 a.m. CST

    That's Button But...

    by Media Messiah

    I'm so excited right now!!!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:33 a.m. CST

    So TDK was the best movie because it made the most money?

    by DerLanghaarige

    Yeah, Transformers was SO robbed at the Oscars last year. (Which even is right, in terms of visual effects.)

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:33 a.m. CST

    The Reader + Stephen Daldry = FAIL

    by Zardozap2005

    C'mon. This list was so predictable, it's pathetic. Daldry shouldn't even be on there. If the Academy was so scared of a super-hero movie, they should have at least given some director credit where it was due. The Curious Case of Forrest Gump is so over rated. BAH!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:33 a.m. CST

    Congrats RDJ , and good luck your up against over rated hype

    by JeanLuc Dickhard

    RDJ deserves this ..... and clint got fucked over

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:34 a.m. CST

    no torino at all???

    by Superzerotwo

    man, clint shoulda got something for that flick.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:34 a.m. CST

    No Best Picture Nomination for TDK

    by thethirdman3

    I guess it goes to show that elitism is alive and well.By the way good luck with 2009 Academy Award show , because the Academy is going to need it. The ratings are going to dismal to say the least.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:35 a.m. CST

    Richard Jenkins? C'mon, Beaks; with due respect...

    by Pennsy

    His movie bombed. Cratered. 1941 made triple the boxoffice of The Visitor. Although we were spared Sally Jenkins in lead actress for a movie that made only $3.5 million in its run.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:35 a.m. CST

    mvckalel you are correct

    by sambafreak13

    WALL-E was amazing and it would have been nice to see it recognized, but now that they have the Animated category you will likely NEVER see an animated feature make it for BP

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:35 a.m. CST

    How the FUCK did "THE FALL" not get a nod

    by Gungan Slayer

    for best costume design? That movie had some crazy and badass costumes if I ever saw any.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:35 a.m. CST

    its ok that TDK didnt get best pic or director noms

    by movieManiac

    that was a long shot anyway, but not even Best Original Screenplay??? I mean if anything it should have gotten that! Im glad at least songs from Slumdog got nominated this time, Globes nominated fucking Miley Cyrus for best song.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:36 a.m. CST

    No Springsteen!!!!!

    by eric haislar

    WTF! That song is great.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:36 a.m. CST

    2008 was a great year for drug addicts.

    by DerLanghaarige

    Robert Downey Jr returned big time with Iron Man and Tropic Thunder, Mickey Rourke made the most important movie of his whole career and I don't think I have to mention Heath Ledger.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:36 a.m. CST

    DerLanghaarige

    by Juror Number 8

    no, that's not necessarily why dark knight should've been nominated, but it certainly helped it's case.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:37 a.m. CST

    Yikes.

    by filmicdrummer17

    The Weinstein triumphs again... ugh. There are at least three other films (Wall-E, TDK, Wrestler) that more deserve to be there. I hope their base is really satisfied with itself. No Springsteen = weird. At least now the very good Peter Gabriel track has a legitimate shot at winning. Speaking of, Wall-E got 6, so at least there's that...

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:38 a.m. CST

    Mvckalel: You Know You Love Benjamin Button

    by Media Messiah

    All Dark Knight fans rejoice...a better film got the best picture nod and that's Benjamin Button. Soon, the best picture Oscar will be Button's...and David Fincher will have the best director award and you will all collectively say: "Damn that Media Messiah Mother Fucker, he was right again???!!! Fuck him, Rat Fink Mother Fucker!!!"

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:39 a.m. CST

    Oh well, WB is still laughing all the way to the bank

    by Shut the Fuck up Donny

    I don't think the five best pic nominations' box office gross combined came even close to TDK. <p> Considering art is subjective anyway, I think the "uncultured" masses have already spoken. <p> Come Oscar Night, I'll watch the monologue, watch the In Memorium to pay my final respects (while observing the applause-o-meter popularity contest), and go to bed.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:39 a.m. CST

    my picks, no matter f*#%king what...

    by CHUDfucker

    Best actor: Mickey Rourke Best Actress: Kate Winslet Best Sup Actor: Heath Ledger Best Sup Actress: Taraji P Henson Best Animated Feature: WALL-E Best Art Direction: The Dark Knight Best Cinematography: Slumdog Millionaire Best Costume Design: The Curious Case of Benjamin Button Best Director: David Fincher. Best Feature Doc: Man on Wire Best Short Doc: The Witness Best Editing: The Dark Knight Best Foreign Film: Waltz with Bashir Best Makeup: The Curious Case of Benjamin Button Best Music (Score): WALL-E - Thomas Newman Best Original Song: WALL-E - "Down to Earth" BEST PICTURE: The Curious Case of Benjamin Button Best Animated Short Film: Presto - Doug Sweetland Best Live Action Short Film: Spielzeugland (Toyland) - Jochen Alexander Freydank Best Sound Editing: WALL-E Best Sound Mixing: WALL-E Best Visual Effects: The Curious Case of Benjamin Button Best Adapted Screenplay: The Curious Case of Benjamin Button Best Original Screenplay: WALL-E

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:39 a.m. CST

    WTF??? No Dark Knight?

    by Stalkeye

    Oscars is Gheeeeeeyyyyy!! But altleast SDM will clean up.As for Downey, have got the nod for Tony Stark instead of some dude in blackface. (Fucking Hollywood..)Benjamin Buttons was overrated, I would pick Defiance or even Gran Torino over this fluff piece.<p>Can someone tell me why the screenplay for Juno won last year, yet TDK got overlooked for best screnplay?!?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:40 a.m. CST

    Downey Jr did NOT deserve to be nominated

    by Droid

    No Farrell or Eastwood. Fuck that shit. Good on Jenkins though. I'll have to see The Visitor now. Benjamin Button was technically brilliant but failed to engage the audience. Pitt's physical performance to bring the old Button to life was very good, but his overall performance to create the character was not.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:40 a.m. CST

    The question is this, guys...

    by Pennsy

    What will be remembered 20 years from now?! The Dark Knight or.....The Reader? The Visitor? Rachel Getting Married? Milk? Frozen River? <p> Exactly.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:42 a.m. CST

    I'm Doing The Moon Walk On TDK Right Now

    by Media Messiah

    One of the worst films of 2008 because it was so flat when there was such great room to do much more with the film...instead hyped colored people's glasses with the color of roses.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:42 a.m. CST

    STFU Donny, I don't think the 5 movies combined boxoffice

    by Pennsy

    totals equal the FIRST FUCKING WEEKEND of The Dark Knight.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:42 a.m. CST

    Buttons?!?Really?!?!

    by soloaj

    Watched it last week in a packed theater & it just did not connect. Most of the time I can dig this type of movie but not this time. It was way too long = long films do not bother me but movies that make themselves lllooonnnggg to appear Epic just annoy. I also love me some Fincher and he had some nice touches through out but that does not make it best picture. Out of that limited list I would lean toward Slumdog. Side note: both movies where packed with people & the impressions I got on the way out = Slumdog - people moved happy/enjoyed film / Buttons = Bored and not happy audience. My girl even fell asleep in Buttons & she never does that in a movie = my real gauge for how a film went ;). I would go with Wall-E, Knight, or even Doubt as some favs in my own 2 cent list.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:43 a.m. CST

    If Winslet finally wins an Oscar

    by Shut the Fuck up Donny

    do you think she'll make Mendes strap it on and fuck her with it? I've never seen anybody lust for one like her.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:45 a.m. CST

    robert downey jr.

    by Juror Number 8

    was good, but i agree with some of the other tbers, it was a gimmick, a fucking funny gimmick, but it didn't really require great acting. it was a slot better deserved for james franco for milk or dev patel for slumdog.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:45 a.m. CST

    For posterity, FTW:

    by The Shyster

    (not my personal picks, but this is who'll win... easy money) Actor, Sean Penn - MILK<br> Actress, Anne Hathaway - Rachel Getting Married<br> Sup. Actor, Heath Ledger - The Dark Knight<br> Sup. Actress, Amy Adams - Doubt<br> Best Animated - WALL-E<br> Best Art Dir., The Curious Case of Benjamin Button - Donald Graham Burt, Victor J. Zolfo<br> Best Cinematography, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button - Claudio Miranda<br> Best Costumes, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button - Jacqueline West<br> Best Director, Slumdog Millionaire - Danny Boyle<br> Best Doc, Man on Wire - James Marsh, Simon Chinn<br> Best Doc Short, The Final Inch - Irene Taylor Brodsky, Tom Grant<br> Best Editing, The Dark Knight - Lee Smith<br> Best Foreign, Waltz with Bashir - Israel<br> Best Makeup, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button - Greg Cannom<br> Best Music, WALL-E - Thomas Newman<br> Best Song, WALL-E - "Down to Earth"<br> Best Animated Short, Oktapodi - Emud Mokhberi, Thierry Marchanrd<br> Best Live Short, Spielzeugland (Toyland) - Jochen Alexander Freydank<br> Best Sound Edit, WALL-E - Ben Burtt, Matthew Wood<br> Best Sound Mix, WALL-E - Tom Myers, Michael Semanick, Ben Burtt<br> Best Visual Effects, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button - Eric Barba, Steve Preeg, Burt Dalton, Craig Barron<br> Best Adapted Screen, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button - Eric Roth, Robin Swicord<br> Best Original Screen, WALL-E - Andrew Stanton, Jim Reardon, Pete Docter<br> BEST PICTURE, Slumdog Millionaire<br>

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:45 a.m. CST

    Why only 3 Nominees for Visual FX, Original Song, Makeup?

    by kamenliter

    I'm sure they could have found other worthy nominees in these categories. Why not a nod to Hellboy II for visual FX? Almost all the other categories have five nominees. I don't understand the reasoning.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:45 a.m. CST

    some interesting conclusions there...

    by Obscura

    makes sense though. would have liked wall-e to get a best picture nom, but theres been so many good films this year. Re: dark knight, im more annoyed that it didnt get a scare nom, but somehow managed to get 2 other sound based noms.... the music is as much a part of the effects work in that film as anything else.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:46 a.m. CST

    An Oscar strap-on ...

    by Lou C.

    ... is the funniest thing I've read in a while. Nice work, sir. ... As for The Reader, it's a movie about the Holocaust. OF COURSE Hollywood is going to nominate it. You could make a holocaust porno flick and the Academy would nominate it.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:47 a.m. CST

    No Leo, No Clint, No acting nods for W....

    by Jugdish

    That sucks- Plus no Acting nominations for SlumDog Millionaire- doesn't help its cause

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:48 a.m. CST

    holocaust porno titles

    by Juror Number 8

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:49 a.m. CST

    Slum Dog: Bollywood Is Trying To Buy Hollywood

    by Media Messiah

    I love the Indian people, but Hollywood is major in need of financial investment due to the economic crash, and they want, and need, Bollywood and the Indian people watching the Oscars en mass...and with it, they are hoping to win favor and more investments by Indian Billionaires in Hollywood productions and studios like Dream Works, by giving Slum Dogs those nominations...and despite my love for Benjamin Button...the Hollywood elite are crooked enough to fix this thing so Slum Dog wins best picture over Benjamin Button just so they can get that cash!!!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:49 a.m. CST

    TDK is a great film...

    by RockLobster800

    and it was my favourite of last year, but Im not shocked it's gotten shafted-its just not the academys kind of film. And it is true that despite how excellent he was as Mr.J if Heath were still alive, he wouldnt have gotten the nod...Im not trying to undermine him in anyway, cos that performance deserves every praise it gets. The one really tragic Batman snub didnt happen this year though folks-it was when Shirley Walkers Mask Of The Phantasm score didnt get a nod in '93...truly one of the best soundtracks ever made and its just dismissed by most people as cartoon music

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:49 a.m. CST

    MrBeaks—Winslet

    by GregoryHarbin

    She was nominated for BEST ACTRESS for The Reader. How can you be complaining she wasn't nominated for Best Supporting for that movie?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:50 a.m. CST

    The Joker

    by SpikeTBB

    I jumped straight to "Best Supporting Actor" to make sure Heath Ledger is there like he should be.And to be honest, don't care much any of the others. Except for any that Dark Knight is up for. Send a message to Hollywood execs that comics book films can be artistic serious FILMS not kid's stuff silly ass fluff

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:50 a.m. CST

    to lou c: holocaust porno titles

    by Juror Number 8

    The Night of Broken Ass Cock-centration Camp Gooish Jewish: Cum Swallowers of Poland

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:51 a.m. CST

    Oh, and I complained about it before, but...

    by DerLanghaarige

    ...is it SO difficult for Germany to send a movie to the Academy that is NOT about the history of this country? At least The Baader Meinhof Complex isn't about Nazis.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:51 a.m. CST

    uninspiring selection

    by Lost Jarv

    Angelina Jolie? Fuck no.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:51 a.m. CST

    Funny book movies=not taken seriously

    by Darth Deezen

    Doesn't matter how good they are or how much angst there is. And, anyway, if THE DARK KNIGHT didn't have Batman in it and was just a thriller about a cop, it would seem rather ordinary. It's a great movie because of the funny book element...but no one can take a guy with his own Underoos line seriously. But having said that, I DO have Batman bed sheets.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:52 a.m. CST

    Soloaj: In A Year You Will Be Singing Button's Praises

    by Media Messiah

    Stop fakin' the funk. You know you loved Benjamin Button. You laughed, you cried, you cheered, you loved the movie!!! Buttons, buttons, buttons!!!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:52 a.m. CST

    If you want to know the REAL best picture...

    by OBSD

    Look at the choices for Best Original Picture. It's been that way for as long as I can remember. But here we go again with another batch of mediocre, safe and boring choices from The Academy. At least half of the "Best Picure" choices are barely above Liftime Movie Channel quality. Let The Right One In has been THE gold standard for what film should be in 2008. It showcased superior cinematography, screenplay, musical score, direction and acting (from the two leads). As far as I'm concerned, the Acadamy's "choices" for what they consider "Best Picture" seem like a limp handjob from a syphilitic 90 year old 3 dollar whore in comparison.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:52 a.m. CST

    None of the best actress performances were striking?

    by tonagan

    I beg to differ. Melissa Leo is fantastic.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:52 a.m. CST

    Any Benjamiin Button haters can eat a dick

    by Six Demon Bag

    after all the hubbub about the score for DK..nothing...that's a shame

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:53 a.m. CST

    Benamin Button was the silliest movie I saw all year

    by robertkent.net

    Imagine there's two people in love, but one of them's becoming a baby. Oh no. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to take away from that. The Dark Knight got robbed, and that sucks. It's better than Button and Frost Nixon, for sure. I haven't seen the other nominees yet, but I will.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:53 a.m. CST

    The Dark Knight

    by richievanderlow

    I'm not surprised it didn't make the cut, not real sure on whether its deserving.. I thought it was, but what do I know. Either way, this year's awards have generated zero interest and I won't be watching. This looks like any given year at the Oscars with a bunch of overrated movies that may be well done, but seem to get there because of their supposed avant garde subject matter over true innovation.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:53 a.m. CST

    Button is good, but not great

    by mvckalel

    Button's cinematography/looks is bad, it needed the 16:9, not the 2.35...Pitt's acting is bad, reminds me of Bale's Batman with the voice...the movie is just not interesting...but I love Zodiac and Se7en, so it's really the movie...

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:54 a.m. CST

    Media Messiah

    by Droid

    You're a complete fuckwit.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:55 a.m. CST

    Did Wall-E break the record for most noms for an animated film?

    by The Shyster

    Anybody?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:55 a.m. CST

    Button is still good, but not great

    by mvckalel

    Longer than needed...bad pacing...

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:55 a.m. CST

    Those are some lousy choices for best pic

    by Robstar

    Crash...No Country...now Slumdog for this year. Nothing against those films, but theyre NOT classics.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:55 a.m. CST

    the ideal best picture nominations

    by Juror Number 8

    Dark Knight, Wall-E, The Wrestler, Milk, and the last one's a toss up between Revolutionary Road and Benjamin Button. Those were the best told stories of 2008 (haven't seen let the right one in so please don't shit on me for not including it in this list).

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:56 a.m. CST

    Benjamin Button?

    by OBSD

    Don't you mean "Gump2:Still Gumpin"?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:56 a.m. CST

    Six Demon Bag

    by richievanderlow

    No kidding on TDK's score. Certainly the most innovative and appropriate music in any film I've ever seen. So much for being different. It's the same ole' same ole' for the Academy this year... how boring.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:56 a.m. CST

    Pennsy, once and for all, box office does not = quality

    by JimCurry

    Saying The Visitor "bombed" is hilarious. Was it released in over 3,000 theaters? Was there a massive push for it? No. It's a low-budget, independent film that, shock, people who ACTUALLY SEE IT seem to like. You child.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:57 a.m. CST

    Best film of 2008 was In Bruges

    by Droid

    And Colin Farrell was robbed.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:57 a.m. CST

    Agreed Juror #8...those should have...

    by mvckalel

    But No Country for Old Men and The Departed are GREAT films...and let's not get into the 'classic' category, because Toy Story is classic, and it didn't win Best Picture...

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:57 a.m. CST

    RIOT!!!!!!!!!

    by BrowncoatJedi

    Dark Knight rules and Button was mediocre at best. NERD RAGE!!!!!!!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:59 a.m. CST

    OBSD is right

    by Lost Jarv

    look at the best original screenplay noms. There's your best picture.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:59 a.m. CST

    once and for all

    by Juror Number 8

    no, box office doesn't = quality, if that were the case then the fucking grinch would've gotten a best picture nom. BUT, it does help make a good case for an already amazing movie where the general consensus of critics and moviegoers agree on it's sheer awesomeness.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9 a.m. CST

    Boy, if they thought last years Awards had low ratings...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    ...wait till they get a load of this year. What a snoozefest of films. (Although, I'm sure there will be a spike in the ratings when the Best Supporting Actor category goes down.)<P>The most important thing to remember here is that the best film of the year, bar none, is/was MAN ON WIRE. Everthing else? Fiction.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:01 a.m. CST

    Where is your anger towards the Academy Harry?!!!

    by DarfurOnTheRocks

    Seeing that your rant against the foreign Film press because they shunned DK could have been construed as nationalistic tripe on your part.....

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:01 a.m. CST

    What will viewship be this year

    by Samuel Fulmer

    About 12 people???

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:01 a.m. CST

    Apparently, I can't type today.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Bloody typos.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:01 a.m. CST

    Batman needed more gay men and holocaust

    by jimmy_009

    to make it a best pic contender. Sad but true.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:02 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv

    by OBSD

    Thanks for seeing through my stupid fuckup. I meant to put "Screenplay" and never did. I'm glad you figured out what I was trying to say.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:03 a.m. CST

    The Departed is a sack of crap

    by Lost Jarv

    Infernal Affairs destroys it.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:03 a.m. CST

    The Academy just slit their own throats

    by HEADGEEK

    Not having THE DARK KNIGHT in the major awards running will kill viewership. Especially with Wolverine hosting.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Benjamin Buttons lovers can eat shit..

    by Stalkeye

    ...and die in their own shit.XD

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:05 a.m. CST

    Oh come on, all the Heath Ledger Fangirls will watch it!

    by DerLanghaarige

    And there are lots of it! (Or just a handful who have invaded every single website on the planet.)

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:05 a.m. CST

    on man on wire and docs in 08

    by Juror Number 8

    it was a fantastically made movie, but the best documentary released theatrically in 2008 was "Taxi To the Dark Side" which won best doc last year. after that, in no particular order, would be man on wire, religulous, standard operating procedure, shine a light, and (even though most critics didn't respond well to it) where in the world is osama bin laden?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:05 a.m. CST

    That's why HeadGeek is Headgeek.

    by Pennsy

    He knows his shit. :)

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:06 a.m. CST

    I hope Wall-E doesn't win ANYTHING

    by SnowDogs

    Most overhyped movie imaginable. Kung Fu Panda was better in all respects.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:06 a.m. CST

    'The Reader' was pretentious garbage

    by KennyKilo

    Receiving a BP nod over 'The Dark Knight' is a joke, and what makes matters worse is Christopher Nolan being snubbed by Stephen Daldry. No Clint, No Kate (for the far superior Rev Road), No Springsteen, or The Fall. And no 'Rock Me Sexy Jesus!?!' Well, I actually liked 'Crash' so this is like Christmas; you can't get everything you want every year. Boycott the telecast!!!!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:07 a.m. CST

    I agree Harry...

    by JimCurry

    This will be the lowest rated ever, if not, pretty darn close... TDK would have gotten millions of geeks, and curious casual viewers, watching... No one really gives a flip about Frost/Nixon vs. Slumdog.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:07 a.m. CST

    Shite year for movies..

    by Lacloake

    Best films I've seen this year are 'Let The Right One In' and 'Hunger' but there's a snowball's chance of either of those getting a nod.... And where the fuck is Eastwood for Gran Torino? I know it's a bit of a flawed movie but he was fantastic in it!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:09 a.m. CST

    TDK

    by mode_7

    I'm way more surprised TDK didn't get a nod for the score than anything else. How the fuck can that score not be nominated? It's a fucking masterpiece.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:10 a.m. CST

    Borrriiiinnnnnnngggggggggggggggg

    by CountdeCeredigion

    Would it really have been so hard to nominate Dark Knight for best picture or have a little recognition for Nolan?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:11 a.m. CST

    Spiderman 2 was one of the best reviewed

    by skimn

    films of the year, the year it came out, with a lot of support for Alvin Sargeant's screenplay. And just like then a "comic book" movie has a chance in hell in getting a best picture nom. Gone are the days when popular (Star Wars, Close Encounters) and popular fluff (Airport, The Posidein Adventure) were nominated.<p>As far as The Reader...I guess Ricky Gervais' advice to Kate Winslet was right. Do a holocaust movie, and the awards will follow.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:11 a.m. CST

    about the springsteen snub

    by Juror Number 8

    i dont give a fuck if its against some arbitrarily moronic rule, its a travesty the wrestler wasn't nominated for best song. the fact that springsteen is playing the superbowl would increase interest in him playing the song at the oscars, but now we have to listen to TWO bollywood songs. nothing against bollywood, but one is definitely enough. also, springsteen would bring his legion of fans to watching the oscars for his performance and his definite win, if he were only nominated, of course.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:12 a.m. CST

    What will Happen when Heath doesn't win

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Because that will probably happen.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:12 a.m. CST

    they forgot a little movie called Snow Angels! Stupid Assholes!

    by What The Duck

    Great movie with great performances. It should have at least been nominated for the acting. On another note ddid anybody really believe TDK was gonna snag a best picture nomination?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:12 a.m. CST

    sorry harry "in bruges" will win best screenplay

    by logicalnoise01

    also fuck watching this boring telecast.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:13 a.m. CST

    If There Will Be Blood's Score didn't get

    by Samuel Fulmer

    nominated, I'm not shocked about TDK's score not making the ctu.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:13 a.m. CST

    The Academy Awards/The Wrestler

    by gunnarcannibal

    Weeee woopdee fucking shit! But still I hope Mickey gets the oscar just for bragging rights and because he deserves every single award he can get for this role. The Wrestler was better than all those nominated films...it took something as silly as pro wrestling and turned it into a heart wrenching tradgedy. Whatever, it won best picture in my little dream world...along with Let The Right One In, The Dark Knight, Rachel Getting Married and Tropic Thunder!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Rourke ain't going to win

    by Samuel Fulmer

    I'd like to see it happen, but it ain't going to happen. He's going to get the Bill Murray runner-up award.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:17 a.m. CST

    Slumdog Win=

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Thank you Bollywood for funding Hollywood during the economic downturn.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:18 a.m. CST

    The American Beauty Prequel set in the 50's

    by Samuel Fulmer

    didn't get nominated, but the Forrest Gump remake did. Interesting.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:19 a.m. CST

    Tomato Meter and the Oscars

    by knowthyself

    What's even scarier is if you bother to check the tomato meters for the films nominated. Best films of the year getting 70% fresh? WTF? Benjamin Button 73%, The Reader 60%, Meanwhile Wrestler got 98% and Dark Knight got 94%.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:20 a.m. CST

    Kate Winslet..The Susan Lucci of Oscar

    by Samuel Fulmer

    She'll finally win and do important films like a remake of Wes Craven's Shocker and the lead in some Michael Bay action movie.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:20 a.m. CST

    Who the fuck cares when AVATAR is fucking our eyeballs in 2009?

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    Fucking academy. THE mediocre READER??? What the fuck? WALL*E for best script??? Christopher Nolan not nominated? Plenty of BENJAMIN borefest BUTTON love???<p>I fucking hope that Ledger gets his golden boy. Plus, IN BRUGES rocked!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:21 a.m. CST

    Oh and ENOUGH with the god damn Holocaust movies.

    by knowthyself

    Can we stop with those already? Its like an automatic win whenever your killing jews in your movie.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:22 a.m. CST

    Maybe there's some truth to this Bollywood/Hollywood

    by Pennsy

    conspiracy theory. TWO B-wood songs in Original Song and no Bruce? WTF?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:22 a.m. CST

    Media Messiah: I am convinced

    by soloaj

    I stand corrected = love me some Buttons now! You Win! ;) HA! Is it Friday yet? = need some BSG ASAP

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:23 a.m. CST

    Eastwood

    by ForkTongue

    He's okay at delivering a weak script and some terrible dialogue. Should have let someone else direct that film and just stick to the acting and playing the song.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:23 a.m. CST

    What contest?

    by skimn

    Its a lock. Rourke for The Wrestler, the comeback win. Winslet for The Reader, the multi-nominated-no-win win. Ledger for the career interrupted win. Henson for the supporting minority win. And Slumdog Millionaire for director (which Boyle shoould have got for Trainspotting) and picture for the little film that could that had more substance the Little Miss Littlefilm.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:24 a.m. CST

    Dark Knight Sucks Shit

    by Mr Sidney James

    Is it just me that thinks the dark knight would have benefitted from cutting by at least 1/2 an hour. Sorry but nominations just because you're dead suck shit

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:25 a.m. CST

    TDK for BEST MAKEUP?!!

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Uhhhh.....they do know that Two-Face was 90% CG, right? I'm righting a letter right now to get it disqualified.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:25 a.m. CST

    TDK for BEST MAKEUP?!!

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Uhhhh.....they do know that Two-Face was 90% CG, right? I'm righting a letter right now to get it disqualified.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:25 a.m. CST

    fuck....thats WRITING not RIGHTING.....retard

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:26 a.m. CST

    And a big LOL to all the dumbasses...

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    ...who still don't know what "editing" is about. It's not the montage within a scene, you morons! It's how the movie as a whole is visually told. <p>TDK should win that category. Great editing.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:26 a.m. CST

    Your Moms-The Penn thing

    by Samuel Fulmer

    I totally agree. He had to demean himself in crap like I am Sam in order to look serious (which is funny because I thought it was the most unintentionally funny performance ever) so when Mystic River came out, he could win. Rourke hasn't really been good in years, and they're just going to skip over him for this reason. I think it's stupid, it's the best performance of the year, not best career or whatever.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:26 a.m. CST

    Fuck Milk and Sean Penn

    by masteryoda007

    What a cunt of a movie. What a cunt of a lead actor. Sho nuff.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:27 a.m. CST

    My vote would be for

    by Mr Sidney James

    Anus, Penis, Anus, Oh Yeah!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:28 a.m. CST

    Bruce Springsteen, Benjamin Button and the Oscars...

    by spooky2k

    So how come 'The Wrestler' isn't in the best original song category? I mean, obviously it's because it wasn't voted for but come on...Peter Gabriel? That song was terrible. Jai Ho was great and I hope it takes it. Sorry but I'm not feeling the love for Benjamin Button at all. It was OK but essentially was a completely forgettable 'me too' Oscar film. The film cut it's own logic in half at the end! (He started as a little baby who looked 80, so logically he should end as an 80 year old who looks 1 hour old, right? I felt short changed!) Also, Ease up the the Dark Knight love. It isn't half as good as you remember it being.

  • Because Al Pacino deserved an Oscar for his HOO HAA?? Of course, the performance plays just a portion of the award.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:30 a.m. CST

    Maybe Pacino will do Cruising 2

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Electric Fistaloo.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:30 a.m. CST

    A disgrace that Dark Knight left out of Best Picture

    by Stan Gable

    In a world where Titanic, Gladiator and LOTR: Return of the King have all won best picture awards, the Dark Knight isn't even nominated? Milk, Frost/Nixon and Reader and no Dark Knight? Dark Knight was clearly the most entertaining movie of the year, with great acting performances turned in by ALL, excellent direction from Chris Nolan and an epic screenplay. If Heath Ledger hadn't died they probably would have left him out too.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:31 a.m. CST

    For the First Year..

    by Playhouse

    ...I've realized how bloated and ultimately unimportant the Oscars are. The Globes and the Oscars this year are both pretty staid with a few bright spots. I'll tune in to see Ledger become only the second actor to receive a posthumous Oscar after Finch. That's about it. <p></p> <p>It's not that I don't support a number of these fine films. It's that the Academy Awards continue to be out of touch with quite a bit of excellent cinema. I think I'm finally done with awards shows. And the Oscars were one of my favorite things growing up. Oh well, on to more important things.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:31 a.m. CST

    Once again..

    by kbass

    The Academy proves just how out-of-touch it is when it comes to nominations. "The Dark Knight" snub is a travesty, but not surprising. I'm equally displeased that "Gran Torino" and Clint Eastwood were ignored. It's a fairly simple movie but he delivers an amazing performance. Nice job Academy! And TV viewership continues to spiral downward...fewer people watch because fewer people care. When you slight a film like "The Dark Knight" you deserve your fate.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:32 a.m. CST

    2 questions - Gran Torino and Ben Button

    by jones1899

    1. Did anyone else find MUCH of the acting and dialog in Torino to be so bad that it pulled them RIGHT OUT of the movie? Not talking about Clint here.____________________ 2. Can You explain to me Brad Pitt's nod? Sure he acted in different ages, but as far as emotional performance - the guy was just kinda walking around, watching shit happen, talkin about it. Maybe thats the fault of the script (which also makes me question the nods for best screenplay and picture)

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:32 a.m. CST

    My 2009 Oscar picks, and Fuck the Academy...

    by Leafar the Lost

    ...for not nominating the Dark Knight. Best Actor-Mickey Rourke (The Wrestler) Best Actress-Anne Hathaway (Rachel Getting Married) Best Supporting Actor-Heath Ledger (The Dark Knight) Best Supporting Actress-Marisa Tomei (The Wrestler) Best Animated Feature Film (Kung Fu Panda) Best Art Direction (The Dark Knight) Nathan Crowley, Peter Lando Best Picture (The Dark Knight) Fuck the Academy on that one.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:33 a.m. CST

    Don't kid yourselves....

    by Mr. Profit

    Viewership will not plummet due to lack of The Dark Knight being nominated. Most of these films that were nominated have made money this year. This is also the first year where most of the people I know have seen the majority of the nominated films. The viewership will either stabilize to last years or improve a bit. The Dark Knight wasn't going to save the Academy. It's a great movie that should have been nominated, but it wasn't. The hate should be directed at The Reader. Not at films like Slumdog or Button. Kate was better in Revolutionary Road, and even in that movie Leo out acted her. This whole movement behind The Reader by the Academy is a surprise to me.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:33 a.m. CST

    Soloaj: BSG MAY BE A TV SHOW BUT...

    by Media Messiah

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:34 a.m. CST

    Hey, I just realized that Valkyrie isn't nominated!

    by DerLanghaarige

    I expected a best actor nom for Cruise. Because he not just played a historical character, but he was also wearing an eyepatch!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:34 a.m. CST

    Sally Hawkins

    by BirdMnJr

    Sally Hawkins was robbed. She gave the best female performance of the year in Happy-Go-Lucky, won a Golden Globe, and got shafted here. Good job AMPAS.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:35 a.m. CST

    Soloaj: BSG MAY BE A TV SHOW BUT...

    by Media Messiah

    It's Oscar worthy. Maybe they should make film versions of it so they can get those Oscars after all!!!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:35 a.m. CST

    The real ROBBERY

    by Adelai Niska

    was the lack of a Wall-E best director nom. It was only a completely incredbile movie that had no talking for about an hour, I guess that takes no skill at all. It's a much better skill to be able to point a camera at Sean Penn's sad little one-dimensional gay impression

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:35 a.m. CST

    I'm a Fincher fan...but BUTTON doesn't deserve BEST PICTURE.

    by JDanielP

    I haven't seen all the BEST PICTURE nominees, yet. Maybe David Fincher's BUTTON deserves to be in THAT specific group. However, I do feel that Nolan's THE DARK KNIGHT was a superior flick to Fincher's. <P>Many thanks to Chris Nolan. And here's to my hope...that he introduces Superman in the next Dark Knight installment, even while maintaining his life-like style. I'll be keeping my fingers crossed...for Nolan to prove that even Superman can transcend the genre.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:35 a.m. CST

    The usual Oscar Bullshit!

    by Power_Girl

    Honestly why does anyone care about the Ego, vanity awards known as the oscars. It isn't about the best films of the year and honoring a years work in cinema. Only types of movies are even considered and they have to be studio films or at least owned by one.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:35 a.m. CST

    Solution: Instead of watching the Oscars that night...

    by Pennsy

    Rent The Dark Knight instead on PPV, DVD or Blu-Ray.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:36 a.m. CST

    As much as I loved The Wrestler...

    by IAmMrMonkey!

    I'd really like Langella to take the Oscar. I truly enjoyed his performance in that movie and think the guy deserves some recognition.<p>However, if he lost out to Rourke, I wouldn't be unhappy at all.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:36 a.m. CST

    I agree Adelai Niska

    by Mr. Profit

    Both on your point about Wall E and on Sean Penn's overrated performance.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:41 a.m. CST

    Snubs, etc.

    by Reckoner

    I really enjoyed Ben Button, but I think Leo or Colin should have been nominated over Pitt. Great to see In Bruges got a screenplay nod, though. Best screenplay I've seen in a while!! I can't believe Springsteen didn't get nominated. If you would have asked me for a sure thing, his nomination would be at the top of the list. And he won the Golden Globe!!! Good to see Michael Shannon in there for Rev Road. The Dark Knight should own the technical categories. Stephen Daldry for direction over Christopher Nolan??? WTF?? All the Reader is is 2 people in a bedroom banging each other and talking!!! This is a great example that the Oscars are political snobby BS. Good job Weinstein!!!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:42 a.m. CST

    Why only three Best Song noms?

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    And nominating two songs from Slumdog Millionaire means the votes will be spilt and the award will go to Wall*E. Danny Elfman's "The Little Things" from Wanted deserved props. And -- trivia alert! -- this is the first year since *1992* to feature an un-nominated John Williams score.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:43 a.m. CST

    Stalkeye: Isn't That A Bit Harsh...

    by Media Messiah

    ...you could have told us to eat vagina...and die in vagina, instead??? A much more pleasant way to go. You know you love Benjamin Button too, see...I know you. See, you're smiling now. I saw that! Your grin!!!<BR><BR>I have a confession to make, just like you, I cried during the movie, Benjamin Button, also. It's okay to admit it, we're still strong men...and best of all, the ladies will be impressed by our sensative sides. Just ask Mavra Chang...she'll tell you.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:43 a.m. CST

    Oh well, so much for ratings. Too bad, ABC.

    by Orbots Commander

    The only one of these major nominees in wide release is Benjamin Button (and it's not exactly setting the world on fire); everything else is still in only playing in selected theaters in NY and LA. Good luck in getting anybody to tune in.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:44 a.m. CST

    The night of Kiss assing and self congratulating!!!

    by Power_Girl

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:46 a.m. CST

    That's "Sensitive"...Sorry For The Misspelling

    by Media Messiah

    I'm sorry for the misspelling, but a tear was in my eye as I was just crying watching a bootleg of Benjamin Button. I'm still chocked-up!!! Please excuse me, I have to go cry some more!!!!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:46 a.m. CST

    Media Messiah:SO SAY WE ALL

    by soloaj

    If they can't get some TV award love give them some movie award love ;) Get me the academy on the line or they will feel the wraith of the 13th colony.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:48 a.m. CST

    Since the academy will allow movie trailers

    by skimn

    to run during the telecast, I wonder if there will be a teaser for Avatar? THAT would get the geeks to watch.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:48 a.m. CST

    See I Told You

    by Media Messiah

    I'm too choked up to spell choked. Haha!!!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:49 a.m. CST

    Pennsy, stop being such a child

    by sambrook

    Just because a film made more money than another doesn't make it better (just like winning an Oscar doesn't). Pirates 2 is the third biggest film of all time worldwide, should that have won Best Picture? I agree that The Dark Knight should have been nominated for Best Picture but not because it made so much money, but because it was a genuinely fantastic film.<p><p>And saying that Richard Jenkins doesn't deserve an nomination because his movie "bombed"? For such a small indie film it made a tidy profit and to completely denounce his performance because it didn't do blockbuster figures? Fuck off. That's one of the most ignorant, childish and retarded things I've read on here and - as you seem to be on these boards every day - you know how ignorant, childish and retarded these comments can get.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:50 a.m. CST

    No Best Picture for The Wrestler? Boo.

    by Stuntcock Mike

    It'd be nice if Rourke won.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:50 a.m. CST

    Why The Reader suprise?

    by skimn

    Don't the Jews still run Hollywood?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:51 a.m. CST

    Slow to post the nominees guys?

    by Brody77

    Even IMDB was faster!! I'm not too thrilled by a lot of it. I haven't watched Slumdog yet, but the universal cock sucking is getting a bit old now. Never mind the noms, what do folk think Jackman will bring to it as host? Will he do Oklahoma dressed as Wolverine? Will he apologise for Van Helsing? Hopefully he's gone to Billy Crystal for tips and not Letterman.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:51 a.m. CST

    The Academy Finally Gets It Right!

    by horato

    Jerry Lewis is finally getting an Oscar this year(albeit for humanitarian efforts). All other snubs this year are instantly forgiven.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:51 a.m. CST

    As for The Reader..I would love to "read" ...

    by Stalkeye

    Kate Winslett's lips :P.This is more like a Cumming of age film, than your average historical Nazi Docudrama.It com every teenage male's fantasy..to get busy with a Milf.The Movie is just ok,but it should have NEVER gotten the nod over TDK.Paul Verhooven's BlackBook runs circles over this shit.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:51 a.m. CST

    NO CATE BLANCHETT?!!!!! WTF!

    by FuckMichaelBay

    SHE WUZ ROBBED!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:53 a.m. CST

    THE READER is way overhyped.

    by FuckMichaelBay

    It's a good but forgettable, and often predictable film with prestige talent. This is more of a nod to Pollack and Minghella than to the film itself.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Kate Winslet should've won for Little Children.

    by Stuntcock Mike

    She also needs to start doing movies like Doomsday and stop licking the Dick of Oscar.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Benjamin Buttocks was ass.....

    by thot

    One of the worst films I've seen in quite a while. Pitt for best actor in BB?? What the hell? He was FAR better in "Burn After Reading" He actually had to ACT in that film. (A far superior film to BB by the way). No TDK for best pic? Odd indeed. The Oscars are a joke, I never watch them.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Richard Jenkins nom

    by skimn

    The guy has been a beloved character actor for years, and he got a chance to shine in a main role. Kinda like David Strathaim in Good Night And Good Luck. So give him his time in the sun. Rourke will still be the sentimental favorite to win.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:55 a.m. CST

    The Academy can Kiss My A$$!!!!

    by Jazner

    Sorry folks, but I refuse to watch the Oscars' broadcast or lend any credence whatsoever to the legitimacy of the nominated films. Granted, you can no doubt make a case for why each film nominated should win the actual award. However, there is NO REASON why TDK shouldn't have at least been nominated to categories such as 'Best Picture,' 'Best Screenplay' or 'Best Director.' In short, The Academy of Motion Pictures, Arts and Sciences is an arrogant, self serving group of elitist hypocrites and they can all kiss my ass for their continuous attempts to cram their snobbish cinematic tastes, among other opinions and beliefs, down my frakin' throat.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:55 a.m. CST

    WEAK!!

    by JacksParasites

    Once again, the Oscars proves its own irrelevancy. Once again this is the same academy that opted not to honor Citizen Kane, Casablanca, Double Indemnity, Star Wars, or Pulp Fiction with Best Picture, in most cases in favor of films that have been long-since forgotten. Now granted I've never seen The Reader, but I'm pretty fuckin' sure it's not going to stand the test of time like Dark Knight will. The Academy consistently makes the same mistake, picking the flavors of the months instead of those films that will stand the test of time, will become classics, and will be taught in film classes. Kudos for the unexpected Downey Jr. nomination though. He deserved something for his awesome performances in 3 films this year. He's a dude playing a dude pretending to be another dude.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:55 a.m. CST

    Let The Right One In

    by mithrandir16

    My understanding is that Sweden submitted a different movie for the Foreign Language category, but it wasn't selected for the final nominees. Anyone know what that movie was or why they would make that decision? Let the Right One In was definitely one of the year's best, foreign or domestic, and it's a tragedy that it doesn't have a chance to win.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:57 a.m. CST

    Re: "Will he do Oklahoma dressed as Wolverine?"

    by Stalkeye

    I would pay front row seats to see that happen.Just to jeer and laugh at Jack(off)man as he sings; "I got a beautiful feeling..." What a douche and yes he should apologize for Van Hellsing and Swordfish too.Hugh Hackman indeed.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:57 a.m. CST

    The people that care that "Wolverine" is hosting

    by HypeEndsHere

    don't place much value on The Oscar (tm) anyway.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:57 a.m. CST

    For TDK to get an editing nod

    by Garbageman33

    The editor would've had to excise that entire dueling boats with bombs on them sequence.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:57 a.m. CST

    Forrest Gump 2 and a bunch of movies no one saw

    by Defrost

    And then they'll act shocked when no one watches this

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:57 a.m. CST

    FUCKING CUNTS! FUCKING CUNTS! FUCKING CUNTS!!

    by most excellent ninja

    this awards show gets more irrelevant every year. by the way idiots. billions of viewers? it's not the champions league final. hell it's not even a barca - real madrid match or even a man u - liverpool match. Fucking cunts.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:58 a.m. CST

    knight gets the shaft.

    by El Borak

    figures.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:58 a.m. CST

    Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

    by kwisatzhaderach

    should have been up for Production Design.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:58 a.m. CST

    Soloaj: You Never Know About A BSG Movie...

    by Media Messiah

    ...the Oscar folks are a different crowd.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:58 a.m. CST

    And the award for best actor goes to...

    by Garbageman33

    Hugh Jackman for his role as "heterosexual man".

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:59 a.m. CST

    Titanic gets a nomination (and a win), but not DK?

    by BrantleyFoster

    This, to me, is insane.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10 a.m. CST

    The Reader: Less reading,more fucking!

    by Stalkeye

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10 a.m. CST

    Chris Menges AND Roger Deakins

    by skimn

    as co-cinematographers for The Reader? That'll be hard to beat. Very glad to see In Bruges get a screenplay nod.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:01 a.m. CST

    Pitt in Benjamin Button

    by Droid

    Pitts actual performance (aside from the physical aspects of the motion capture) was shit. Seriously, he has fuck all actual dialogue, it's all voice over. And the dialogue he does have he delivers like he's Karl Childers dimwit cousin.<p>The special effects made his performance look much better than it was. If they're going to do that, then they should've nominated Andy Serkis for Gollum.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:01 a.m. CST

    Titanic is a much better film

    by kwisatzhaderach

    than The Dark Knight.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:01 a.m. CST

    How did the academy not nominate..

    by JimCurry

    My balls?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:01 a.m. CST

    I fully expect SDM to join....

    by Pennsy

    Shakespeare in Love, Annie Hall and The English Patient in the "what the living fuck were we thinking?" Hall of Reverse Fame.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:03 a.m. CST

    TDK

    by tranpkp1

    wow, everyone was really thinking TDK could pull of the win and then they just shut the doors?? LAME. Button is OVERRATED and boring. I'd rather watch Gump 3x over before going thru Button again. I wish I aged backwards cause Button was LONG / slow and ultimately pretty boring. Slumdog for the rest. Pretty lame, Heath will win, and it'll get all the death, blah about it Nolan got robbed.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:03 a.m. CST

    How is Titanic

    by Defrost

    better than any movie really?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:04 a.m. CST

    Clint should have been nominated for Gran Torrino.

    by Stalkeye

    "Go ahead,kiss my ass".

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Defrost

    by kwisatzhaderach

    You may not like it. I don't like it all that much. But Titanic is a Grade A piece of filmmaking. I don't like it...but I can admire it.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:08 a.m. CST

    Langella should win Best Actor

    by MontyPigeon

    It was the best male performance of the year but the academy will go with Mr Rourke.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Agreed. TITANIC > TDK

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    Fantastic movie. Fuck the haters.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:12 a.m. CST

    Silly me, I honestly had hope this year

    by T 1000 xp professional

    for a movie so inarguably loved by everyone and still untopped this year as far as being compelling and emotional. No other movie made me think as much or feel as much during or after the movie. Slumdog was great Button was better, but Dark Knight changed filmaking..... I gotta a question for the film buffs here. What actually makes a good movie?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:12 a.m. CST

    The Reader...

    by I AM ROCKO

    ...I watched it as a fan of the book, and apart from Kate (who gives an amazing performance) the film is very average and bearing in mind the subject matter(s) dull, and I cannot quite believe how they managed that. I mean a film where an older woman seduces an under age boy who turns out to be a Nazi...it should have been powerful, dramatic, intense and gripping it is none of these things. TDK is a great film, not perfect, but better than other billion dollar grossers The Return of the King and of course the woeful Titanic (even the effects now are underwhelming).

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:12 a.m. CST

    kwisatzhaderach-Titanic v. TDK

    by BrantleyFoster

    While my personal taste leans toward TDK being a better all around film than Titanic (no sense in arguing why--we'd go in circles forever). However, the fact that both overall critical reception and public opinion (rarely do this things match) were overwhelmingly positive for the TDK (similar to Titanic--at least in the public's embrace of the movie). That this fact alone did not warrant at least a best picture nomination is surprising to me.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Right on Pennsy

    by T 1000 xp professional

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:13 a.m. CST

    The Curious Case of Forrest Gump......

    by BacardiRocky

    ....was a chore to watch. As already stated it was nothing more than an updated version of Forrest Gump. They both have a handicap They both are southerners They both never had a relationship with their fathers They both had understanding mothers who years later lose their mothers The both had brushes with history They both went off to sea and war (They did opposite in both films but you get it) Forrest Gump had the feather, Benjamin Button had the Hummingbird They both loved a woman who wouldn't pay them any mind, and the woman finally did and had their child. The scene early on where the preacher told Benjamin to get up and walk out of the wheel chair and falls on his face was similar to when Forrest tries to walk in the doctors office and falls. If Hollywood honors this, then why aren't they honoring all the shitty remakes that they have been puking out the last few years? What a fucking joke. Oh yeah, Bruce was fucking ROBBED for The Wrestler.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:13 a.m. CST

    If Langella wins for Frost/Nixon

    by Samuel Fulmer

    He's really winning for Masters of the Universe.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:14 a.m. CST

    What terrible, terrible choices.

    by mefrog

    The Reader is a VERY mediocre movie, The Dark Knight got shafted (not even a fucking screenplay nod?), Revolutionary Road got nothing... this had the potential to be one of the most exciting Oscar years... now I don't know if I'll even watch.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:14 a.m. CST

    Sigh…

    by funwithwords

    Another TB destined to be focused on TDK, in which the level-headed feel it’s their responsibility to inform the starry-eyed fanatics that the movie was not remotely good enough to be considered among the best pictures even when you figure in how entirely mediocre this year was for film. Great. Count me pleased with TDK exclusion, but count me out of the gloating.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Zzzzzzzzzz.......

    by Orbots Commander

    Seriously, why even tune it? To see The Reader, a movie that I'll likely never see except on late night cable, win? As Homer Simpson would say, "Booooo-riiing!" These nominees and Jackman prancing around on-stage doing musical theater will make this Must Not See TV.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:16 a.m. CST

    Brantley

    by kwisatzhaderach

    First and foremost the Academy would still view TDK as a comic book/action movie, and they are notoriously snobbish about those genres. Titanic was undoubtedly helped by being a) a historical movie and b) an old-school Hollywood melodrama sepctacular.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:17 a.m. CST

    KWIS I would agree about Titanic except...

    by Maestro610

    it won when nominated against LA Confidential. Titanic is a great piece of filmmaking but featured two actors who were not ready for the material. I think Winslet and DiCaprio are two of the best actors in major films.... NOW. At the time they were almost there... The story was predictable and didn't allow anyone like BIlly Zane or even Kathy Bates to really shine in any regard. Meanwhile LA Confidential which is also a period movie, featuring incredible set pieces, direction at least 4 interweaving subplots and gives every single actor and actress something interesting to do, loses. If we're giving awards just for the craftsmanship of making a film then I understand the Titanic win, but if we're talking about the art as well then LA Confidential is clearly the better film by far.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:17 a.m. CST

    1000 times xp professional: NO

    by necgray

    TDK was NOT universally loved. I, for one, am over-fucking-whelmed with relief that Dark Knight did not get nominated. Because it's nowhere near the Best Picture. Neither is Button, which is a pointless yawnfest, but Button doesn't engender the foaming fanboyism that TDK does. Which seriously needed to be swatted on the nose.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:17 a.m. CST

    Considering that TDK got BOTH noms

    by skimn

    from the Producers Guild AND the Directors Guild, but got snubbed by the academy by The Reader is proof enough. Asshats. Sure, you can debate if TDK is Oscar worthy, but I'll bet you find it on more top ten lists, hell top five lists, than The Reader.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:17 a.m. CST

    The Weinstein Company are to blame.

    by Grando

    They heavily petitioned Oscar voters over the past few weeks with DVD screeners and "gift baskets" to sway voters towards The Reader ahead of The Dark Knight. The fucked up thing is that it worked.....

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Maestro610

    by kwisatzhaderach

    I completely agree. Confidential was the ebst film of '97.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:18 a.m. CST

    mefrog: NO, no screenplay nom

    by necgray

    Because the screenplay was not good.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:20 a.m. CST

    "Not having THE DARK KNIGHT in the major awards running will kil

    by Mr Incredible

    Harry, get real. Your worship for this movie is clouding your judgment. People around the world will watch this back-slapping shitfest, no matter what. TDK made Warner Bros. a billion bucks plus, and you're crying about it not getting more nominations? Please.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:20 a.m. CST

    Dark Knight

    by SpawnofAchilles

    is overrated and NOT best pic material. I feel that Nolan should be nominated for director though. The Springsteen snub is unforgivable and Iron Man AND Dark Knight should get costume design...Gran Torino looked like a fucking joke from the trailer, is that movie actually good? Like I literally thought it was not a real movie...Dark Knight score should also be nominated but NOT screenplay. And Ben Button was great so suck it haters! GO HEATH!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:21 a.m. CST

    LA Confidential was better than Titanic but

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Boogie Nights and Jackie Brown were bother better than LA Confidential. I watched LA again recently and was shocked by how great Kevin Spacey used to be, and how over the top Crowe was. Russel Crowe's Bud is a cartoon character who would've fit in better with De Palma's Black Dahlia.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Here Is A Song For The Academy!

    by laraz

    FUCK OSCARS...YEAH...FUCK YOU....RIGHT IN THE ASSS...FUCK YOU OSCARS, FOR NOT GIVING THE BATMAN A CHANCE.....YEAH...FUCK YOU OSCARS....FOR NOMINATING EVERYONE IN THE FILM_OF slumdog millionare--EXCEPT IT'S ACTORS.....FUCK YOU OSCARS...FOR PASSING ON THE BOSS FOR A BEST SONG NOMINTATION, BUT INSTEAD YOU NOMINATE M.I.A. WHOSE MUSIC IS SHIT.....FUCK YOU OSCARS....FOR NOMINATING FILMS NO ONE HAS EVERY HEARD OF.....OR WILL SEE!.....FUCK YOU OSCARS.....FOR PLACING ROBERT DOWNEY JR AND HEATH LEDGER IN THE SAME CATERGORY....ITS LIKE A SLAP IN THE FACE....FUCK YOU OSCARS....FOR NOMINATING THE READER WHICH REMINDED ME HORRIBLY OF ATONMENT.....I HAD NIGHTMARE'S FOR DAYS AFTER I SAW ATONMENT...SO FUCK YOU OSCARS...FOR PASSING ON LEO ONCE AGAIN....IT COULD OF BEEN HIS YEAR...IF YOU ONLY GAVE HIM...AAAAAAAAAAAA.....CHANCE....SO FUCK YOU OSCARS.....ME AND ALOT OF YOUR VIEWERSHIP WILL NEVER WATCH YOU LAME ASSES AGAIN....SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO......FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK.............YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOU........AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACADEMYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:21 a.m. CST

    LA Confidential

    by skimn

    Didn't Horner also win over Goldsmith for score? For shame, considering Horner steals his best ideas from Goldsmith.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:22 a.m. CST

    kwisatzhaderach - You're right. Good point.

    by BrantleyFoster

    And that's a damn shame about the Academy. Maybe in 15 years when the fossil-like academy members are no longer around, the remaining voters will start looking at genre movies in a new way. It's almost a moot point this year anyway; TDK would not have beaten the all the other competing films.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:23 a.m. CST

    Just you wait...

    by Lacloake

    Even if it's a fucking masterpiece the same thing'll happen to Watchmen next year... sayin that I didn't enjoy TDK at all... Besides how many times has the true best film of the year actually won best Picture? Like last year I thought 'There Will Be Blood' was a far superior piece of cinema to 'No Country' and I hope time will prove that.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:23 a.m. CST

    Don't care

    by Tomarru

    Tbh i've had little to no interrest in the oscars for a very very long time. It just seems to be a way for hollywood to give a nod to films that were so crap or pretentious that next to nobody seen them. Every year the big blockbusters get shafted because of what they are and the fact that they have already raked in the cash just so some rubbish that nobody wants to see can add a sticker to its dvd cover. The oscars have become so predictable anyway, films are made and released solely for the purpose of awards and they generally get them. They appeal to a select group of people who are so snooty to begin with and generally go against what the rest of the cinema going public thinks just for the sake of keeping their circle of nutters intact and exclusive. Maybe in a few decades the current crop of people in charge will have lost the keys and a group of people that are more in line with what everyone else thinks will hand out the awards. Until then, the predictable rubbish will continue to reign supreme.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:24 a.m. CST

    James Horner has three good scores

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Star Trek II, Aliens, and Willow, all of which he does over and over again in every film other film he's done. Goldsmith should've won for LA Confidential, but then again, he should've won for Chinatown too!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:25 a.m. CST

    Fulmer

    by kwisatzhaderach

    The Rocketeer!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Speed Racer

    by ED2D2

    How Speed Racer couldn't at least be nominated for best visual effects is beyond me...

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:28 a.m. CST

    funwithwords: thank you

    by necgray

    It's too late to stop the two postings I already did, but you've made me re-think things. I guess a large part of me WANTS to gloat that TDK was not nominated. But that would be silly. As much as I think TDK fanatics are willfully blind to its faults, it IS a pretty good movie and one of the better comic book efforts. There's nothing to be gained from me rubbing salt in the wound.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:29 a.m. CST

    I am someone who feels TDK should

    by Maestro610

    have been nominated for more categories. Having actually seen most of these films I think Wall-E, Slumdog, Button, TDK, and Doubt should have been the nominees for best picture... if you want to swap Doubt for Revolutionary Road I'd buy that. Coming in and eschewing rancid bile because TDK was not nominated while offering no reasoned alternative or even a film on the list nominated that was actually better means your opinion is completely invalid. You're not cool because you didn't like the Billion Dollar Batman Phenom. You're not cool because those of us who think it should be nominated didn't get our wish. In fact the majority of the people in this talkback probably haven't even seen 45% of the films on that list. If you thought TDK was only a good film and not a great film do me a favor please tell us what this year you thought was better. Then its actually you know a discussion instead of ... HEHE TDK wasn't nom'd toolz!!!!... Find something to add to the conversation.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:29 a.m. CST

    The Dark Knight will sweep

    by buffywrestling

    The MTV movie awards - yeah, that'll show'em!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:33 a.m. CST

    Why so serious?

    by Black Jack iii

    You TDK people are better off that it didnt get the nom anyways, because it wouldnt have won. Then youd REALLY be furious. This is, and has been, a two-horse race since September. Slumdog vs. Ben Button. Obviously a slow year for nominatable films. My favs of the year: Wall*E, Let The Right One In, In Bruges, & Slumdog. I found [REC] & Clovie more fun than I did TDK, but I still thought TDK was a great movie. Bottomline: Who cares what the AMAMAMAAPS think? I dont.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:33 a.m. CST

    As a concerned heterosexual...

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Am I allowed to post in this thread?<p>I am only a heterosexual and not as knowledgeable about lavish Hollywood parties and designer dresses as everyone else here, but I did want to say it is a great insult to all the Batman-loving children in the world that this fine film about a man fighting crime dressed like an animal did not get more recognition this year. Surely, it is time to consider a category for Best Children's Film? That way, The Dark Knight need not miss out on an award.<p>I hope that's okay.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:36 a.m. CST

    FUCK the academy!

    by zooch

    How out of touch with the rest of world are they? What planet do they live on? You can not tell me these are best films of the year. You absolutely CAN'T! The Reader over The Dark Knight!? No Wall E BP nom? Gran Torino shut out? Who even saw the Reader!? It grossed about $524 million dollars less than the Dark Knight. After this travesty who will even watch the Oscars now? I sure won't. Expect it's lowest ratings in history. The Academy is officially irrelevant.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:36 a.m. CST

    "The Reader" fills the Holocaust quota

    by Reno

    Gotta have a Holocaust-themed film in there somewhere at the Oscars, for obvious reasons.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:36 a.m. CST

    PRESTO - the best thing I saw at the flicks all year!

    by BiggusDickus

    If it doesn't win it's golden baldy there's no justice.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:36 a.m. CST

    I just think there's a consistency problem from year to year

    by Lou C.

    This year, for example: Doubt earns FOUR acting nominations, one for every major performance in the film, but they don't consider it one of the best pictures of the year? That seems weird to me. The Dark Knight earns eight nods, seven that would suggest it was one of the most well-made films of the year, but they don't consider it a best picture or best director nominee? On the other hand, The Reader only earns one acting nod, and yet it's up for best picture and best director. Slumdog gets all these nominations, but no one thought highly enough of the acting to nominate someone? And there's a good chance that Marisa Tomei and Mickey Rourke could walk away with Oscars, and yet The Wrestler is otherwise virtually ignored. I'm not lobbying for any of these flicks, but the whole system seems out of whack.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:39 a.m. CST

    Slumdog Millionaire

    by Mr. Profit

    Why is it cool to hate on this movie all of a sudden? It's not crap like Juno, Little Miss Sunshine, Shakespeare in Love, or Crash. <P>Slumdog Millionaire is a movie I went to see with no expectations and I wound up enjoying it very much. And I don't like Danny Boyle. But he got a lot right here. The look is authentic and realistic, the score, the young actors, the story. It was all a good experience to watch. <P>The movie also took a much ignored part of (the world that is slowly becoming a force in the global marketplace) and shows us their struggle without being preachy. And they even wrapped a relatable love story around it. It basically has everything an Academy voter could want in a film. <P>People need to stop being ridiculous cynics and direct their hate somewhere else. It's foolish. Also while The Dark Knight is a superb film, it leaves you cold after viewing it.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:39 a.m. CST

    Benjamin Button is NOT better than TDK

    by ricarleite

    It's an overlong greater-than-life Forrest-Gumpesqe fake biopic with nothing on its side except the gimmick of Brad Pitt getting from old to young. You just go through this to see how he dies. Fincher being nominated by this and NOT by Fight Club - clearly a better movie - is a JOKE. Also, I'd give TDK the special effects Oscars over Button ANY time. The amount of practical effects and amazing shots should be recognized, and not that creepy old meat-puppet with Brad Pitt's motion capture movements. Also, WALL-E should get original soundtrack. No questions about Peter Gabriel and Ben Burtt getting the awards here as well, so I'd give WALL-E 5 awards here. Best picture will be given to Slumdog Millionare due to the Golden Globe media hype.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:39 a.m. CST

    Black Jack

    by Maestro610

    Let The Right One In is absolutely one of this year's best films. Unfortunately, with the rules of the Academy and the Foreign Language Film award it would never have a chance to make the list. Should it be in the best picture discussion absolutely but so should In Bruges.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:39 a.m. CST

    Meryl Streep could be in Meet the Spartans

    by Reno

    and she would get nominated for trophies. Some people are just automatic noms.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:39 a.m. CST

    Benji Button and Milk were totally overrated.

    by iamnicksaicnsn

    Milk at least was a good movie, if not a great one. I didn't think he had enough trial and tribulation on screen, and too much of it was off screen in his voice overs. I also thought Dan White's character should have been delved into a bit more, for instance, what was the point of saying he was gay or an alcoholic, but only really referring to it in no more than a single scene? <p> As for Benjamin Button, the first two thirds were ok, but by the end it was just totally absurd. It also didn't really follow the rules it set for itself. I mean, I know no one in their right mind would ever show a baby the size of a man, but if he came out the size of a baby, he should have left the size of a man. I also got tired of the lightening guy after the fourth or fifth time. </p>

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:40 a.m. CST

    THE DARK KNIGHT Should Have At Least Been Nominated

    by LaserPants

    for best picture (if not win). Ledger is an easy win for supporting actor.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:40 a.m. CST

    Where's Rambo?!?!

    by TylerDurden3395

    Best film of the year by FAR. <p> <p> Slumdog Millionaire was absolute shit. I'm sorry but why am I going to pay $10 to see an extended version of Who Wants to Be a Millionaire when I can see that shit on Game Show Network for free? <p> <p> And out of all the game shows in the history of broadcasting, why did the filmmakers have to center their film around Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? Couldn’t they have picked a better game show? I mean there are like 100 cooler game shows they could’ve based their film on. Here are just three game shows the filmmakers could’ve used for inspiration that would’ve made the movie a lot better. (I hope you’re taking notes, Boyle.) <p> <p> Hollywood Slumdog Squares. While thinking up an answer to Who was the 17th President, Paul Lynde has a flashback to his Thug Life childhood when he and his homeboy Vincent Price popped caps in people and fought over the affections of Rose Marie. <p> <p> Win, Lose, or Draw: The Movie. Celebrities’ drawings come to life in whimsical and magical ways. Then suddenly, Dom DeLuise’s doodling of Godzilla comes to life and eats Rip Taylor. Burt Reynolds laughs hysterically. <p> <p> Match Game Millionaire. Flashbacks reveal just how dumb Dumb Dora really was. Then, after years of lustful innuendo, Richard Dawson and Gene Rayburn finally get horny enough to double stuff Fannie Flagg while Charles Nelson Reilly tells everyone where to put their ________.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:41 a.m. CST

    WTF?!?! No Dark Knight? No Bruce Springsteen?

    by DKT

    Academy Awards, you are dead to me.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:43 a.m. CST

    Lou C

    by Black Jack iii

    The whole system IS out of whack. When have they ever gotten it truly right? Think about it; how many times have you heard "That wont get nominated because noone has seen it or knows about it.". How is that an excuse? Isnt that the JOB of these people, supposedly? To get out there and see as much as possible as to truly identify and reward the best of the best? No, for the most part, the judges/voters are HANDED what they are TOLD are the best films/perfomances of the year... Ah well, thus is life.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Wow. This fucking sucks.

    by casale2a

    Movies I would have wanted to see nominated: Best Foreign Language Film - Let the Right One In Best Picture - THE DARK KNIGHT!!! Fucking Bastards. Best Director - Chris Nolan What the fuck is The Reader anyway? I've never heard a thing about it. The only reason why they didn't chose The Dark Knight was probably cause its a superhero movie based on a comic book.. Dickheads. I'm not watching the Oscars.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Oscars will be a ratings bomb

    by Jared

    bleh...what a weak year. the Oscars are going to have another ratings disaster on their hands. perhaps a good host and Ledger's nomination will interest viewers...but I'm not holding my breath. The Oscars have been criticized in recent years for nominating films that no one has seen. As a cinemaholic, I don't want to see pedestrian films nominated, however nominating a wildly popular, critically acclaimed film like "The Dark Knight" for Best Picture, Best Director, etc. would have drawn non-traditional viewers.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Franklin T Marmoset--I understand the point you're making, but..

    by BrantleyFoster

    While we're talking about children's films, how about the film about a guy that's born old who ages backwards? If we wanted films to only be a total, plausible reflection of reality, we could all save a lot of money and just go sit at a bus stop for two hours. To say that nothing of cinematic value (based upon your highly developed sarcasm)can be gleaned from fantasy might put off a lot of filmakers, authors, painters, etc. I do, however, applaud your willingness to draw the ire of the vast majority of people on this site. What an original concept.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:44 a.m. CST

    here is a rap for the Oscars!

    by laraz

    you fucked up like titanic/not nominating the dark knight cause you thought your awards would be in a panic/how pathetic!/no acting nods for slumdog millionar/india wont even watch/so who cares/kate got nominated for the reader/even though reveloutinary road was a far better picture/you nominate richard jenkins but forget to give props to the eastwood legend/josh brolin snuck in and stole another nomination from that emily hirsch and james franco kids/you left chris nolan out in the wind again!/hes the next stanley kubrick so he dont need your awards anyway/give it to ron howard or danny boyle/cause the both of them are a little spoiled/you give props to isreal with waltz with bashir but forget let the right one in, what a mess/dont even ask me why im stressed/Robert Downey jr got a nomination for tropic thunder/is this a joke, maybe i'll have to take a plunda/TDK got no musical score nomination, yet youll nominate defiance, which aint even in the same constolation/IronMAN got best visual effects over speed racer/it'll probably win to cause stan winston is the creator/in brudges got a shout out for orginal screenplay/but the nolan brothers got played/ Dam i'm only being real...every dam oscar show i watch...i see the same old hoes..yeah.yeah..

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Best Editing for TDK?! Fuck that.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Absolutely standard editing. Nothing special about it. Thats a sympathy nom if I've ever seen one.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:45 a.m. CST

    Lou C

    by Mr. Profit

    Sometimes a film can feature better performances than the film itself. Doubt is one of those movies where the actors all bring their A game, yet the direction is lacking. The Wrestler features a pair of great performances from Rourke and Tomei, but the end of the film leaves you cold. Revolutionary Road is another case of great acting from both Leo and Kate, but the film itself underdelivers as a whole. Slumdog Millionaire is a great film, but it's not due to acting. It's the story and the direction. <P>The main thing that bugs me is when directors are nominated for best director and their films don't get nominated for best picture. To me those two go hand in hand but the Academy voters don't think so.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:45 a.m. CST

    Maestro

    by Black Jack iii

    I totally agree with you and it's sad that Sweden didnt at least TRY to get that film nominated. Some political crap Ive read.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:48 a.m. CST

    I stopped watching years ago....

    by dingleberryjerry

    I used to watch the Oscars every year when I was younger, even if it meant staying up wayyyy too late on a school nite. But you know what, about 10 years ago I missed one..and the world didn't end. Sure I caught the news the next day to find out who won. And that was enough for me. I just grew up I guess.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Amen, biggus...

    by HapaPapa72

    We have Wall-E on DVD and so far we've only watched it once more. But we've watched Presto a good 10 times at least now. Just the best Pixar short yet. Re-watched TDK again too. Heath was fine right up until the end..the incessant laughing reminded me of getting tired of Jack's incessant laughing back in '89. The torch has been passed, indeed. I hope he wins, though, so we can all get on with our lives and forget about it.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Rambo 4 was fun....

    by Mr. Profit

    My friend and I were probably the only 2 hysterically laughing at each ridiculous death. It was so much old school fun. Can't wait for The Expendables.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Oh, the Irony!

    by RetroActive

    Winslet jokingly said a few years ago that the sure fire way to get nominated is to do a movie about the Holocaust. Which is true. Every damn movie, brilliant or terrible has received a nomination based purely on the subject matter. Now, although the picture gets nominated, she does not. Well, they sure showed her, didn't they?! Idiots. The bottom line is, you can never be reminded enough of the atrocities of Nazi Germany. ut enough with the automatic nominations, even if it is deserving! There are other stories to be told! I almost feel as if a few categories should be created based on the sheer volume. "Best Animated Picture", "Best Picture", "Best Holocaust Themed Picture" "Best Supporting Actor/Actress in a Holocaust Movie", "Best Title Attempt of a Holocaust Movie to Keep You Coming Back for More"

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:51 a.m. CST

    Of course the ratings will go down.

    by mrfan

    They go down each year and have been for some time. Has nothing to do with the nominations. Has to do with the quality of the show. Get over it people. Just because certain movies haven't been nominated doesn't mean jack.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:52 a.m. CST

    Should have been...

    by zooch

    Dark Knight<br> Gran Torino<br> Wall-E<br> Slumdog Millionaire<br> Milk<br> Benjamin Button<br><br> Fuck the pandering holocaust film like The Reader, and Ron Howard is still overrated.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:52 a.m. CST

    Bull. Shit.

    by HoboCode

    Watch the ratings for this broadcast sink to new depths.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:53 a.m. CST

    No TDK Best Picture nomination = No TV ratings

    by SpyGuy

    When the #2 box office film of all time fails to land a Best Picture nomination, you've just about guaranteed yourself a low viewer turnout. Hell, if it wasn't for Heath Ledger, WALL-E and Peter Gabriel, I wouldn't be watching either.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:53 a.m. CST

    Nominations were generally spot on except TDK got a bad deal

    by zapano

    overall the oscars seem to be improving and actually acknowledging deserving films. Last year was excellent i put it down to academy members' demographics actually changing. At this moment i'm rooting for Slumdog.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Oh, the Irony! (correction)

    by RetroActive

    Even more irony! I misspoke. Winslet WAS nominated for The Reader! Hysterical! She's a lock! Especially since her main competition is Streep as a Catholic nun...though, since Streep is playing a "witch hunt" Catholic...this could get interesting!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:55 a.m. CST

    RetroActive

    by sambrook

    She DID get nominated. And it's not like she said that in a press conference - it was written for her when she was playing herself in Extras. Which is why I'd get a kick out of her winning just to give that episode the perfect punchline. Not to mention the fact that, while the film itself wasn't fantastic (it was interesting but lacked dramatic impact and felt longer than it was), she gave a very strong performance.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:55 a.m. CST

    Watch Heath get his Oscar on YouTube.

    by Pennsy

    Don't give ABC the satisfaction of your presence. That's all you do. At this rate, I'm hoping for a Sopranos-like ending when it comes to announcing best picture. :)

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:55 a.m. CST

    Sorry RetroActive

    by sambrook

    Just saw your next post...

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Mr. Profit: I Give Slum Dog A Chance

    by Media Messiah

    It's only fair, right!!!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:57 a.m. CST

    Will Jackman be in Wolverine Drag

    by Samuel Fulmer

    That's what matters. Will Brandon Routh host next year?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:58 a.m. CST

    Jolie in Changeling is underrated

    by Mr. Profit

    As is the movie itself. Eastwood did a great job but he's getting more attention for Gran Torino. I'd rather see Jolie win than Hathaway who only played a piece of trash junkie who ruins a wedding.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:58 a.m. CST

    No nomination for TDK for original score?

    by Rickey Henderson

    Bullshit. It's bad enough they snubbed a terrific movie for best pic and best director, but they couldn't even give the soundtrack some much deserved lip service? On this day, the Academy takes one more giant step towards irrelevance. Benjamin Button was light hearted fluff--nothing more. How the hell does it get nominated for anything other than a few technical awards?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:58 a.m. CST

    BuffyWrestling: That Is Funny As Hell

    by Media Messiah

    Your riff on the MTV Awards and TDK is a classic!!! Brilliant work!!!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:58 a.m. CST

    typical

    by sokitome

    Reader got in because it is about the Holocaust. Ricky Gervais had it right at the GG. You make an above average movie about the holocaust and white academy voters eat that shit up. Frost/Nixon was meh and I'm a history fanatic (b.a. in history), but it's about a so called real historic event, ironically to most historians a non-event, so it gets in. MILK is about GAY people so that's automatically in Hollywood, but I haven't seen it so I guess I can't be too judgemental. All i can say is TDK and WALL-E should be in this category.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11 a.m. CST

    No Dark Knight? Fuck You All! Yo Old Acadamy Hacks

    by kenjinattix

    I just needed to get that off my chest Acadamy. If you can hear me. If this message gets into your brain somehow. That I wrote on an Aintitcool message board and wished for your narrow minded long winded death.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11 a.m. CST

    Boycott the Awards ceremony!

    by zooch

    Join me!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:01 a.m. CST

    Obama to attend

    by Samuel Fulmer

    And give out best actor award.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:02 a.m. CST

    BrantleyFoster is with me!

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Clearly, the children would like to see their film about a colourful crime fighter rewarded with an Oscar of some sort. Listen to your audience, various Academy members!<p>I think the Oscar for Best Children's Film is the way to go for The Dark Knight. I suggest they make the statue slightly smaller than the grown-up Oscar, and with something covering its swimsuit area, because exposed genitals on awards is not appropriate for kids.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:02 a.m. CST

    Moral of story: the holocaust > superheroes

    by Rickey Henderson

    class dismissed.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:03 a.m. CST

    Wanna see a cool Holocaust themed Movie?

    by Stalkeye

    Checkout Defiance in which the Jews actually kick Kraut ass.Now that's a good Nazi Movie as opossed to the Reader.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:03 a.m. CST

    Colin Watkinson fucked over for cinematography on THE FALL!!!

    by Prague23

    Who didn't suck who's dick so that this film was completely overlooked? I know the script was kinda weak but the cinematography was STUNNING! <p>

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:04 a.m. CST

    Gran Torino is overrated

    by beatleMatt

    Clint was great, the story was excellent, but MAN the supporting cast were chock full of shitty fucking actors. Every time I hear that asian actress say "Hill people! booga booga booga!", or here the priest say "We're not IN korea" I wanna gouge my fucking ears out. That ranks up there with J-Lo's "Gobble Gobble" line in my book. Could Clint not find decent actors?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:04 a.m. CST

    Let's just get one thing clear: The Reader is not a good movie

    by mefrog

    Not really. It's poorly paced, the relationship between Winslet and the boy is borderline ridiculous, and the ending drags. Winslet is good (not as good as she was in Revolutionary Road) and Ralph Finnes is strong but I was shifting in my seat wildly by the first hour mark. It really is true: make a Holocaust movie, get a nomination. Fuck you, Academy.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Mr. Profit

    by Lou C.

    Fair enough, but can't you predict some of this stuff every year? You just KNEW that Mickey Rourke was going to get nominated but the film wouldn't, despite the fact that it received far better reviews than The Reader, as far as I know. Last year, you KNEW Juno would win for screenplay because the voters love the movie, but not enough to give it best picture (not that I thought it deserved it) and they wanted it to win SOMETHING. No one really knows how the process is broken down, but inconsistencies abound on how they choose nominees and winners from each category. I haven't seen Doubt, but I refuse to believe that it makes sense that the Academy could consider every major performance in the film among the best of the year, but not consider it one of the best films of the year. If just Streep was nominated, I could buy that argument ...

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:06 a.m. CST

    So Harry - TDK should be nominated to boost ratings?

    by geraldbeans

    Did you really just say that?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:06 a.m. CST

    I wonder if Kurtzman/Orci

    by kwisatzhaderach

    will get a nod for Star Trek next year?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Benjamin button and David Fincher own ALL of you

    by Six Demon Bag

    accept this fact...you know it to be true

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Captain America movie will win an Oscar

    by Samuel Fulmer

    As long as it has a concentration camp scene.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Why Rourke should win....

    by Chicken Grease

    The acceptance speech. If Sean Penn wins, he'll go off on a speech about rights and Prop 8 and yadda yadda yadda. If Rourke wins, he will give us an awesome funny speech like the Globes. Plus Penn went full gay, no one wins an Oscar for going full gay. I was surprised by no Gran Torino and no Sally Hawkins. And we all know that the Mumbai terrorist attacks was just a marketing ploy for "Slumdog Millionare"

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:08 a.m. CST

    Also, how about Colin Farrell for In Bruges?

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    I found his performance in the role of 'Joey Tribbiani, but Irish' to be deeply affecting. Where's his nomination?<p>This is typical of the Academy's prejudice against actors playing their parts as though they were characters from Friends but with different nationalities!<p>It's nothing but elitism!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:08 a.m. CST

    Do you think

    by Defrost

    the Academy sees the irony in nominating Downey for a movie that makes fun of the types of movies the Academy seems to always get a hardon for when he is surrounded by all the types of movies the Academy gets a hardon for?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:09 a.m. CST

    get real....this will not affect ratings.......

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    People forget the rest of the general public doesn't bitch and whine like all these man-children on here. People who saw and liked TDK can give a fuck if its nominated for anything. Most people probably didn't even know it was being hyped up for Best Picture. Ordinary folk wouldn't necessarily associate TDK with the Oscars. No one will care.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:11 a.m. CST

    I'm not sure but

    by Samuel Fulmer

    I think the highest recent Oscar ratings were for when two popular movies one (Titanic and LOTR:The Return of the King).

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:12 a.m. CST

    spot on Danny

    by Rickey Henderson

    No one gives a flying fuck about Oscar nomination politics. Besides, everybody knows that the Oscars are like the Superbowl for dudes who enjoy fornicating with other dudes.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:13 a.m. CST

    geraldbeans

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    I'll go ahead and answer that. THE DARK KNIGHT should have been nominated (I have to believe it was seriously considered) because it was a great film that was critically acclaimed and immensely successful with the public. After films like TITANIC and THE LORD OF THE RINGS (ROTK), there really shouldn't be any quibble by the Academy over whether or not a popular superhero movie is worthy of a Best Picture nod.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Most Academy members would have fallen asleep during TDK

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Blame Bale's insomnia-inducing performance.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Not Unexpected

    by greenhorn1

    Not that I expected any different but it's still sad that Synecdoche NY didn't get any nominations. Best film of the year and some wonderful performances as well.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:13 a.m. CST

    2 Ways to improve the Oscars...

    by TheWacoKid

    The Academy needs to start nominating movies people actually have seen and/or heard of. Also, it would be awesome if they told us how close a vote was or if somebody won by a landslide. That would great. It will never happen, but it would have me watching. However, after hearing these horrible and uninteresting nominees, I will be no where near this telecast. Oh, and I know I am alone here, but it is a slow acting year if Mickey Rourke wins. He was good, but not great.

  • I feel totally blue-balled.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:16 a.m. CST

    Oscar best Best Picture of this decade

    by Samuel Fulmer

    2000: Gladiator -- 2001: A Beautiful Mind -- 2002: Chicago -- 2003: LOTR:Return of the King -- 2004: Million Dollar Baby -- 2005: Crash -- 2006: The Departed -- 2007: No Country for Old Men......Agree....Disagree

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:16 a.m. CST

    Sacha Baron Cohen was right.

    by ricarleite

    We should have thrown the jew down the well. Death Weinstein wins again.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:18 a.m. CST

    DG_DB

    by Black Jack iii

    Exactly. People will tune in to see post-hum Heath win his award. Look at how many fools went and saw Mamma Mia and probably consider THAT to be the best of the year. Most of the general public are very disconnected from what goes on here and in these talkbacks. And no, geeks, I did not compare the quality of Mamma & TDK, just their money making = public love aspect.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:18 a.m. CST

    Leo DiCaprio - Rev Road

    by eickhry

    This guy was robbed of a nomination. I enjoyed Pitt's performance but DiCaprio's performance was definitely better. Congrats to Michael Shannon though who was mesmerizing in Rev Road!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:18 a.m. CST

    Departed

    by Jared

    I loved "The Departed" in 2006 and thought it should win. Two years later..."Children of Men" was clearly the best pic that year.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:19 a.m. CST

    TDK SHOULD have taken place during the Holocaust

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Christopher Nolan's Batman would have made a GREAT Nazi, and we could all have clapped and cheered as anti-fascist loose cannon The Joker punched his uptight face and saved the day.<p>Oscars by the boatload, surely.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:20 a.m. CST

    dont you guys understand?

    by bacci40

    this is an infomercial...always has been..they need to sell these movies to make a profit...that is why noms go to movies that arent big money makers...

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:22 a.m. CST

    bacci40

    by Defrost

    That would make sense if the ratings for this idiocy wasn't going further down the toilet every year.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:24 a.m. CST

    Snubbed!

    by kafka07

    Fuck you, Academy, for ignoring Dark Knight in Best Director, Best Picture and Best Score categories. I'm not saying it has to win every category but the the film deserved those nominations. Nominating Ledger is great in one sense, but the lack of other noms for the film seems as if Ledger's nom is more for sympathy.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:24 a.m. CST

    Bring back the interpretive dance portion

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Imagine what they could do to Milk and The Reader.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Oscars will suck regardless because

    by kenjinattix

    Hugh Jackman is the host...people keep forgetting that. Billy Crystal, David Letterman, Steve Martin, Chris Rock, Jon Stewart, HUGH FUCKING JACKMAN???? I like Hugh. I'm going to watch Wolverine. I think he's a nice guy. I know he did broadway. But him hosting the oscars is like T.I. hosting the BAFTAs. You lost the young viewership by taking off Dark Knight Acadamy. But its all good you sure got the Holocost surviver viewership and the Bollywood crowd. Should make up for it. I'm so glad the acadamy hasn't stopped Catering to arthouse repetitious films like period pieces and Nazi films. Thank god they respect the hard work and huge dividend earning pictures like Dark Knight. Wait...thats sarcasm Acadamy voters. I keep forgetting that your blowhardedness and obtuse thinking prevents you from knowing when someone isn't really blowing sunshine up your puckered ass.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:25 a.m. CST

    The Curious Reader's Slumdog Nixon Milk

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Now there's an Oscar Winner!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Doesn't matter

    by Six Demon Bag

    regardless of who is nomd and wins the oscar, the films made will speak for themselves in time...good or bad. Oscars are irrelevant to which films you like and which are actually, in fact, worthy.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Bale will accept Heath's award using his "scary" Batman voice

    by TylerDurden3395

    You know you want to see that.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:26 a.m. CST

    Samuel Fulmer

    by Black Jack iii

    I'll stick to what was nominated in those years mentioned, otherwise this will go on forever: 2000 - Agree; Gladiator 2001 - Disagree; Fellowship 2002 - Disagree; Gangs of NY AND Two Towers were better than Chicago. 2003 - Agree; ROTK 2004 - Disagree; The Aviator 2005 - Agree; Crash 2006 - Agree; The Departed 2007 - I both agree & disagree since I liked both No Country & There Will Be Blood, so I had no problem with No Country winning. As far as "film" goes though...Blood was superior and probably SHOULDVE won. Of course those years, like this year, just because it was nominated doesnt mean it was the best that year. I just dont feel like going back and researching what was when, so Im taking the lazy way out for now.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:26 a.m. CST

    Lou C.

    by Mr. Profit

    I saw Doubt. It's totally obvious that it was the directors first film. It was shot funny at times. But the actors brought it home. And I was actually a bit worried about Rourke being nommed. People hate on him despite the fact that he delivered the best male performance of 2008. I'm glad he was nominated.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:26 a.m. CST

    The Reader 2: Easy Reader starring Morgan Freeman

    by Stalkeye

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:27 a.m. CST

    No Wallace and Gromit?

    by supertoyslast

    Is it too new to qualify for this year's Oscars? Did it not qualify for some other reason? Was it just not good enough? It surely can't be because it's a TV piece, since all the others were too.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:27 a.m. CST

    kwisatzhaderach - you buerk!

    by Darth_Tarantino

    How exactly would academy members be put to sleep by "Bale's insomnia-inducing performance"?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:28 a.m. CST

    The Reader? Come on...

    by Dr. Chim Richalds

    I have to admit that I don't understand the Academy's apparent love for The Reader. The best word that I can use to describe it is "inconsequential." Kate Winslet's character in particular says very little throughout the film and apparently does not engage in much introspection. We never truly learn why keeping her one secret is so important to her that she would risk going to jail for decades over it. Moreover, it is not clear what we are to make of Fiennes's thought process throughout the movie. Ultimately, it's a breezy film which suggests that it is more meaningful than it truly is.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:28 a.m. CST

    Dear Academy,

    by The Ghost of Marcus Brody

    This list of nominees is a complete travesty. Your job is to SELECT THE BEST ACHIEVEMENT IN THE ART OF FILM MAKING, that's it. And you have proved to us all that that is a task to hard to comprehend for you. Frost/Nixon??? The Reader??? Benjamin Button?? Where the hell is Wall-E and The Dark Knight?? Just because they were a commercial success does not mean they were not best picture contenders. Stick your head out of your asses and look around.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:30 a.m. CST

    supertoyslast

    by montimer

    Unless it's had a release in the LA county area between 1st January 2008 and 31st December 2008 it is inelligible for an oscar.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:30 a.m. CST

    I guess Lou Ferrigino was busy

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Must explain Jackman hosting.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:30 a.m. CST

    Forget DK, where is Synecdoche

    by ENAN

    I can't understand why, based on box office draw, Dark Knight should be nominated... It was fun and pretty and sort of fresh...but compared to Synecdoche, NY it is a footnote in cinematic history. DK is way uneven, and frankly, Ledger's performance is the most noteworthy aspect and I am glad that the academy reflected truth in that sense. While being smart enough to see Dark Knight clearly, missing the boat on Synecdoche, NY is inexcusable. I have seen all the movies in contention except for The Reader because the premise is soo boring I wouldn't drop a dime on it. Considering this reality: Benjamin Button - Best Film, Rourke - Actor, Melissa Leo - Actress, Shannon - Supporting actor, Cruz - supporting actress, Fincher - Director, Button and Happy-Go-Lucky for scripts. Oh, and to those of your knocing THE DEPARTED...you are so right. That movie was barely coherent and frankly paled in comparison to Goodfellas or Casino. Scorsese in the 21st centuries sucks ballz.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:32 a.m. CST

    No Wall-E or Dark Knight in Best Pic Noms?

    by DisneyFanatic

    Yep, there goes all hope that they were legit.<p> No offense to ass kissing liberal hollywood pricks, but this goes to show just how fucking gay for each other that community is.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:32 a.m. CST

    if you're gonna complain, complain about the omission of No Beni

    by Six Demon Bag

    he owned this year

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:33 a.m. CST

    no Benicio for CHE???

    by Six Demon Bag

    see above

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:34 a.m. CST

    Re: Samuel Fulmer - This is FOX doings

    by ricarleite

    To promote Wolverine. Bobcat Goldthwait was the one too busy.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:36 a.m. CST

    TylerDurden3395

    by DisneyFanatic

    Thiis maan. Deserved this awaard. For all the haard woork. He puut into the chaaracter.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:39 a.m. CST

    Cobra-Kai

    by Lost Jarv

    that's because it wasn't very good.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:39 a.m. CST

    One bright spot.

    by Pennsy

    At least the dozens that watch this turdpile of an awards show won't hear any music from High School Musical 3.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:40 a.m. CST

    Gran Torino got the nominations it deserved

    by MIkeYH

    which is none. That movie was pretentious and ridiculous and horribly acted. What's so awards worthy about a story of a crotchety, racist war vet (because all war vets are crotchety and racist and completely socially inept according to Hollywood) learning to love people and not judge them for the color of their skin? And I never did understand how we were supposed to see Eastwood as "old fashioned" because he didn't like his granddaughter showing up to his wifes funeral in a mid drift and texting during the service. I think anyone above the age of 7 would share his hostility to that behavior. Stupid movie.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:40 a.m. CST

    Eh

    by malpaso

    The noms, overall, suck. MT and MR from "The Wrestler," and the rest blah. Pitt over Eastwood? For a make-up role? The day Pitt wins an Oscar is the day they need to shut it all down. I'll look for the results on Yahoo the next morning.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:41 a.m. CST

    That said, Paramore got fucked over with 'Decode'.

    by Pennsy

    Don't care how this comes across, but that song from Twilight should have made the final list. Or a couple of Forgetting Sarah Marshall songs (Inside of You and Dracula's Lament).

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:43 a.m. CST

    INDY 4 was nominated for a Razzie.

    by Orbots Commander

    ...as it should, as well as The Love Guru. I contend that the Razzie awards would be more entertaining to watch than the Oscars.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Oscar Outrage!

    by LoneGun

    The Academy has failed to nominate as Best Picture the film that mattered the most in 2008. THE DARK KNIGHT was not only the year's most highly profitable movie and one of the very best reviewed, it will be remembered as the most influential. What other film generated more discussion, more fervor than this one? Studios are already scrambling with their next batch of films to meet its ceiling-shattering standards. THE DARK KNIGHT is the movie that made history in 2008. All else paled in comparison.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:45 a.m. CST

    Hugh Jackman is a song and dance man

    by skimn

    Give him a lifetime pass to host the Tonys. Give Hollywood the willies and let Gary Busey host the Oscars.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:45 a.m. CST

    Samuel Fulmer - re Oscar winners

    by MontyPigeon

    2000 Gladiator (disagree) - Memento<p>2001 A Beautiful Mind (disagree) - The Fellowship of the Ring<p>2002 Chicago (disagree) - City of God<p>2003 The Return of the King (disagree) - Oldboy<p>2004 Million Dollar Baby (agree)<p>2005 Crash (disagree) - A History of Violence<p>2006 The Departed (disagree) - Pans Labyrinth<p>2007 No Country for Old Men (agree)<p>2008 Slumdog Millionaire (agree)

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:46 a.m. CST

    Benjamin Button is Fincher's worst film

    by Lovecraftfan

    Visually striking but drawn out and completely uninvolving.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:48 a.m. CST

    What a bunch of bullshit...

    by Kirbymanly

    1) Jolie for "Changling"?! Seriously?! I LAUGHED (as did others I know) during her entire performance. One of the most forced performances by an actress I've ever seen in a major motion picture. 2) No "The Dark Knight" or "The Wrestler" for Best Picture or Director?! Shows how out of touch the voters are. Both of those films run circles around "The Reader" and "Frost/Nixon". 3) I may lose some of you on this one but... "Cloverfield" not getting anything for Sound Design?! That was, next to Wall*E, one of the best designed films I've seen in years. The Academy's picks are actually making The Golden Globes seem legit.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:49 a.m. CST

    Pennsy

    by skimn

    Why not a song from Sarah Marshall indeed. Does Best Song always have to be something played over the end credits while people shamble out of the theater?<p>And yes, your Twilight nod does come across as gay.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Benjamin Button would be the worst best picture winner.

    by drewlicious

    Of all time. It was an unspired movie that sprang out of an uninspired idea. Also, what the hell is Brad Pitt doing up there when I can name at least two performances that were better?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:50 a.m. CST

    BOGUS! ben button was weak...NO WRESTLER!?!?

    by FleshMachine

    hopefully slumdog will get it...way better then button.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Oscar best Best Picture of this decade

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Should have been: 2000 - Traffic. 2001 - The Fellowship of the Ring. 2002 - The Pianist. 2003 - Master and Commander The Far Side of the World. 2004 - The Aviator. 2005 - Munich. 2006 - The Departed. 2007 - There Will Be Blood

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:52 a.m. CST

    Fuck the Academy.

    by Crimson King

    Kate should've been nominated for Revolutionary Road instead of The Reader. Same for Roger Deakins. Obviously The Dark Knight needed to be nominated for more awards.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:52 a.m. CST

    You know what I'll say it.

    by kenjinattix

    Fuck Slumdog Millionare. Fuck India for that matter. It pisses me off that this is the movie the awards shows are getting behind this year. Some cross between Quiz Show and Ghandi. Hearing the concept makes me want to fall asleep.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:52 a.m. CST

    Crystal Skull

    by kwisatzhaderach

    should have been up for Sound, Production Design and Visual Effects. The fact that The Dark Knight is up for Best Editing and Skull isn't is pretty ridiculous. The Academy sure do hate Lucas though.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:53 a.m. CST

    yep Button and Panic room..both weak fincher filx

    by FleshMachine

    forrest gump redux.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Anyone confused by the nominations...

    by montimer

    Check out this Variety article about how the nomination process works: http://tinyurl.com/cc7jt9

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:55 a.m. CST

    13 Nominations For Benjamin Button

    by Media Messiah

    Now guys...if you are smart, you'll tell every girl you know that you love this movie...and they will love you almost as much as they love me. Excuse me right now, I have to go cry, another lovely scene is coming on in the movie and I am going to sob...not just cry, and I'll weep too.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:55 a.m. CST

    this argument that the Academy should nominate popular films....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    ....people actually saw. FUCK THAT. Box office should not translate to awards. For that, I'm glad TDK wasn't nominated. A film that makes a bazillion dollars shouldn't be guaranteed a Best Picture nom. Tons of people go to see some horrible fucking shit. If we're going by Box Office-- than Indy IV and Hancock should also be nominated for Best Picture. This is exactly what the fucktards on the site would turn the Oscars into. And Judd Apatow would get the Lifetime Achievement Award. No fucking thanks. I'll stick with the decisions from the old folks home. You guys can bitch all you want-- if you don't wanna watch, than don't fucking watch. I guaranfuckingtee ratings will be up this year.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, noon CST

    nutjob

    by Lost Jarv

    Didn't you learn your lesson with trash talk when wixmmmm schooled you?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:01 p.m. CST

    Hey, DANNY.

    by mrfan

    In total agreement with you.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:02 p.m. CST

    Also, glad for Richard Jenkins.

    by mrfan

    Very underrated performer finally getting some recognition. Had a great year.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:06 p.m. CST

    by millermeusa

    Lets praise GOD that Beyonce wont be singing any of the nominated songs!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:08 p.m. CST

    What a bland group.....

    by NoCalFlicks

    with the exception of Slumdog Millionaire, it just seems that the Best Picture nominees are your run of the mill biopic films that were made in order to get someone an oscar. I am not so much mad that TDK didn't get a nod, more just mad at the blandness of the group that did get picked. Also, Let the Right One In should have got a nomination for best foreign film. That is perhaps the best movie I have seen all year, horror or not.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:09 p.m. CST

    DannyGlovers

    by Rand92

    Your opinion about popular films is valid. But how can you say ratings are going to be? With only two or three films total that anyone actually saw why would they watch? Most of these films I couldn't go see even if I wanted to because they do not show outside of big metro areas. I don't think boxoffice should be any standard for garnering Oscars. What I will say is that the Oscars are irrelevant to anyone outside of the film industry or film school culture. People may still tune in for awhile just to see what people are wearing, but I can tell you that who actually wins these awards will not matter before long if they even matter now. Besides you can't tell me that there aren't popular commercial films that are just as deserving as these obscure films that no one goes to see. TO echo your own argument, a lack of viewers doesn;t make a film great either.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Ledger got nominated,Now STF @ TDK

    by j2talk

    Ledger got nominated,Now Shut the FUCK UP about TDK...The Dark Knight WAS NOT the Best Picture in 2008 so it should not have been nominated......

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:11 p.m. CST

    Happy to see Dark Knight eclipsed by better films

    by 9000rpm

    TDK wasn't the best picture of the summer, never mind 2008. I do wish there had been room for Gran Torino and Clint but all and all this is a much better group of films than the last few years.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:11 p.m. CST

    Others have said it and so will I:

    by Orbots Commander

    The only reason the Academy is so high on SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE is that Hollywood is eager to suck in all those potential Bollywood investor bucks at a time when hedge fund money is suddenly scarce. It's really funny to see.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:12 p.m. CST

    These nominations are a turdpile,

    by Pennsy

    And maybe we all should take up DannyGloverD-Blood's generous offer. Like taking candy from a baby. :)

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Obama a presenter

    by 9000rpm

    He's pretty much been elevated to sainthood by the Hollywood clique so you never know. 13 covers on Time magazine in one year, disgraceful.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:15 p.m. CST

    Sally Hawkins actually turned in the best performance for Happy-

    by waitingimpatientlyforingloriousbastards

    Unbelievable that she was ommitted. Also, why The Reader? What's the academy's weird fixation with that movie? It was OK, but not great. The only ting great about it was Kate's amazing (SUPPORTING) performance. Also, where is The Wrestler and Gran Torino for best song? Lastly, The nominating committee from Sweden should all be shot. Let the Right One In deserves the Oscar for Best Foriegn Language Film.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Mr. Incredible

    by Rand92

    I am with you, but this is not how the Oscars work anymore. They used to mean something to the average moviegoer, but no longer. The Oscars seem to prefer to nominate films that they want to see make more money. I think they use the awards to prop up the types of films they would rather be making instead of the movies that average people want to see. I see it as a kind of war between the self-important people in the film industry and the people who pay to see their films.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:18 p.m. CST

    I do get it....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    ........and the Academy is not beholden to critics or their reviews. Most of the times the films are well reviewed, sure....but these are individuals voting. No one can tell them who to nominate. If TDK wasn't nominated, who fucking cares? How the fuck will that affect your life whether or not it wins? And its not like every Oscar winning film is seen by no one. How the fuck do you explain Titanic, Gladiator, Return of the King and many other financial hits? Oh they don't support your argument so we don't mention them, right? I get it. When the Academy sucked Peter Jackson's balls they were great-- now suddenly they are the villain again because they don't nominate a Batman movie. Oh fuck all of you.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:18 p.m. CST

    RDJ

    by HoboCode

    I think that nomination is a joke. I couldn't understand a word he said in the film.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:18 p.m. CST

    The problem is...

    by codymr

    TDK did have a lot of stiff competition this year - a lot of quality films made it to theatres. This made it even tougher for TDK because it's unfairly considered a "genre film". <P> A shame that there was no Best Pic, Director or supporting actor nods for Eckhart or even Oldman. <P> BTW: What's all the hate for Button? Fincher did a good job with it. Seems people here are hard on it because it's a romance... to me, that's just as bad as disqualifying TDK for being a comic book adaptation - both reasons are shallow and unfair.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:19 p.m. CST

    Well, waitingimpatiently...

    by Pennsy

    There are only so many movies that .002% of the American people saw that can be nominated for Oscars like Jenkins and Leo. Hawkins would have been too much. Or in Happy Go Lucky's case, .00007% of people in the U.S.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:19 p.m. CST

    Happy-Go-Lucky

    by Bungion Boy

    One of the most wonderful films of the year. Almost completely shut out of the Academy Awards, after being COMPLETELY shut out of the BAFTA's. Sally Hawkins won more critics awards than any other actress this year and yet wasn't nominated. Criminal. Happy for the Mike Lee nod though.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:20 p.m. CST

    Jordo...That's Funny And Your Are Right

    by Media Messiah

    If TDK took place during the holocaust it would win. Very funny observation!!! The problem is with the film, is that it didn't...and TDK is boring and overlong. Ask yourselves something, what did Bruce Wayne do that was human, through the whole film??? He just stood around...and or sat in chair while wearing suits...and talking near meaningless filler dialogue with Alfred. We learned nothing about Wayne, Alfred...Morgan Freeman's character, Commissioner Gordon, Rachel, nothing??? The film missed some very important emotional beats, that it should have had. <BR><BR>They should have brought Joss Whedon in to write a love triangle between, Wayne, Rachel, and Dent...and really showed us that Bruce and Rachel love each other...so we could feel her death...and feel Bruce's loss. As well, the Joker could have used some Joss Whedon's sucker punch dialogue and motivations. Man, if they just brought in Joss and said...Dude, you have 20 pages to write a section in this movie showing us Wayne's emotional relationship with Rachel and the love triangle...and another 5 to 10 pages, working to beef up the Joker and his dialogue...and if they saved Harvey Dent, the villain for another film, they might have had something.<BR><BR>Also, the Joker should have remained something of an urban legend until the middle of the 2nd act, no beng quite sure if he is real or not, not even his men? Chris Nolan and Brother...along with Goyer...blew that, because they failed to give the film heart, humor and substantive impact. Bruce Wayne should have tortured himself knowing he had the chance to kill Joker multiple times, and could have saved many lives...including Rachel's. The Joker was just a sad crazy who should have been euthanized...as that would have been the most humane thing to do for him...and for everyone else...and that is the problem with the movie, they failed to go there with it. Joker was essentially looking to commit suicide by cop...and Batman should have granted him his wish. The real villain of the film is Batman, because sometimes the lives of the innocent must go before one's code.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:21 p.m. CST

    Rand92 -- the Oscars don't mean anything...

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    ....to the average moviegoer anymore? Oh really? Thats why Oscar winners see massive box-office bumps for weeks after the show? When you say the Oscars don't mean anything you really mean "They don't mean anything to AICN nerds." Be honest man.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:22 p.m. CST

    Yep, thank you Academy for continuing to

    by blindambition238

    Reaffirm our belief that you guys are morons.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:23 p.m. CST

    "No one cares about Oscar" is not borne out by facts

    by JackRabbitSlim

    The "quality of film" is a masturbatory exercise in fanboy vs arthouse vs mainstream futility that is pretty much fucking pointless. <p> On the other hand, the number of people going to a movie after it has been nominated or won for best picture is well-documented, best demonstrated by boxofficemojo's illustrative charts. Best examples would be "There Will be Blood" earning 65% of its gross post nomination, Chicago earning 40%, etc etc. Even better - the mere fact that so many of the quality films are released late in the year demonstrates the profit-driven studios know the effect of the awards. Yes, many of these are strictly oscar-baiting, but suggesting the academy is out of touch is pretty much ignorant. And, seriously, fuck Wall-E. That movie blows chunks.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:23 p.m. CST

    No surprise about TDK snub......

    by bugkill

    I absolutely loved TDK, but I was not surprised that it did not get nominated. Actually, I'm more upset at the fact that the screenplay did not get nominated, and the performances by Aaron Eckhart and Gary Oldman were overlooked. Heath Ledger should win Best Supporting Actor, but I would not be surprised if he is passed over as well. The Oscars are not like they used to be. TDK was more than a meg-hit at the box office, it was a great film as well. The one thing that I did notice was the fact that the academy gave TDK a nomination for its biggest flaw, which was the editing. I thought there were a couple parts where the editing could have been done way better, but I think they did it by giving TDK a boost in the amount of nominations it received. I will not watch it because most of those films did not interest me. The only thing I hope to see (actually, read about) is Heath Ledger win. He had the biggest impact in a film as a supporting actor, hands down. The only competition he has is Josh Brolin, and I would not be surprised at all if Brolin wins. Also, I hope Mickey Rourke gets Best Actor.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:24 p.m. CST

    Nolan should have at least gotten best director

    by A for Aristocrat

    Regardless of TDK being best picture of the year (it was), Nolan deserved a nomination for taking a genre franchise superhero movie and elevating it to an oscar worthy film. The Ledger nomination was to appease the public and there is no way that Ledger will lose that but the nominations stink of the Academy bullshit that produced the lowest ratings in Oscar history last year. I havent watched the Oscars in over 20 years and the Dark Knight snub won't bring me back for this one. Still TDK winning any Oscar will be an achievement considering Acadamey bias.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:24 p.m. CST

    Media Messiah

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Spot on. The Dark Knight has the most boring central character in any film i've ever seen. And you're right about the missing emotional beats, something that completely undermined Rachel's death.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:24 p.m. CST

    kwisatzhaderach is an idiot

    by 9000rpm

    Should have been: 2000 - Traffic. AWFUL MOVIE, ALMOST UNWATCHABLE TODAY 2001 - The Fellowship of the Ring. MAYBE 2002 - The Pianist RIDICULOUS. 2003 - Master and Commander SO BAD I WALKED OUT. BEYOND INSULTINGLY STUPID 2004 - The Aviator. REALLY? WOW, JUST WOW. 2005 - Munich SO PAINFULLY BAD EVEN THE AUTHOR OF THE ORIGINAL STORY RIDICULED THIS PIECE OF SS SILLINESS 2006 - The Departed ANOTHER EMPTY PIECE OF OVERBLOWN HOLLYWOOD HOOPLA THAT NO ONE WOULD EVER WANT TO SEE AGAIN 2007 - There Will Be Blood HMMMM...MAYBE.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST

    Pennsy

    by waitingimpatientlyforingloriousbastards

    Whether anyone's seen it or not, it doesn't change the greatness of her performance. I agree with Bungion Boy. It was a great movie and a shame Hawkins wasn't nominated for it.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:26 p.m. CST

    shocked TDK screenplay didn't get a nom?!

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Fuck. I like the movie. I saw it 3 times in the theater. It was a great theatrical experience and everyone except Bale in it is great. But come on now-- the screenplay? You thought it deserved a nomination? Seriously? Its not an award for Story Structure, its an award for everything on the page. I read about half of it after seeing the movie, ands its amazing how bad the dialogue is on the page. It reads very fucking juvenile and you start to realize poor Bale had nothing to work with. Read the script. Its shit. The structure is great. The film is great. The script itself is not.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:31 p.m. CST

    Well, at least we got Obama.

    by Vern

    There are a bunch of good ones on there, I'm happy to see Richard Jenkins and Michael Shannon are Oscar nominees (although I haven't seen those movies and probaly won't watch the second one), it's hilarious that Robert Downey Jr. is getting an Oscar nomination for wearing blackface in a movie about how stupid it would be if someone did blackface to try to get an Oscar nomination, and I was glad Taraji P. Henson got nominated because she was really good in that movie and deserves some recognition.<p> But I can't help but be a little disappointed. I kind of thought they had evolved beyond that "well, the Weinsteins have a new movie about nazis or something, and Kate Winslet is in it, must be important" mentality. And I think it was a great year for movies, but you'd never guess it from those nominees. Of course I'm used to my favorite movies not being recognized - I'm not gonna complain that Chewitel Eijiofor is not nominated for REDBELT (though, let's be honest fellas, he should be) - but it's not like DARK KNIGHT and WALL-E are a secret. They're being punished for being openly commercial movies that happen to be important instead of commercial movies pretending to be small but important. People have already discussed the meaning and substance of DARK KNIGHT a thousand times more than they have the explicitly political FROST/NIXON, and will continue to. WALL-E is a timeless classic and I respect that it got the writing nomination, but that will be remembered 50 years from now and I bet you THE READER will never be watched or mentioned again 6 months after it comes out on DVD. The only reason I've even heard of it is because it was hyped up as an Oscar contender, it exists for no other reason. And yet it gets the nomination over WALL-E so that it can be in the cartoon category alongside a mediocre movie where John Travolta plays a talking dog. That's real fair.<p> And you know, I was ready for BENJAMIN BUTTON to be a masterpiece, but it's not, and everyone I've talked to is in the "pretty good" category. It always makes me sad to see a director like Fincher get his first nomination for his not as good movie.<p> And what the fuck is up with no Bruce Springsteen? Not the biggest fan of end credits songs, but that was a great one. Not sure how that happened. (I was rooting for Clint even though I knew he wouldn't get up on stage and sing that.)<p> Anyway, whine whine whine, this is nothing new, but what about the new era of responsibility, Hollywood? You are shaming your country and your ancestors.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Milk for costume design

    by indyjonez100

    What the hell did he have to do, hey everybody wear something from the late 70s. Come on,

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:32 p.m. CST

    9000rpm

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Those film choices were out of the films that were nominated for Best Picture. Let's hear your choices. Otherwise shut the fuck up and go learn about filmmaking.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Springsteen

    by adolfoliver

    Someone stated that the reason Springsteen's track for "The Wrestler" wasn't nominated was because it was included on another piece of work, namely Bruce's new album. However, I remember Janet Jackson getting a nomination for her song "Again" even though that was on her album.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:32 p.m. CST

    There's always the MTV movie awards for TDK

    by Six Demon Bag

    that's gotta hurt

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Pennsy

    by sambrook

    Seriously, stop talking all this crap about actors only deserving to be nominated if a certain amount of people saw their performance. That doesn't matter. The strength of the performance would remain if 100 or 100,000,000 people saw it. To use an example you'd get - Veronica Mars' viewing figures were never huge. Yet would you deny that praise and awards?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Jolie?

    by Stalkeye

    My Wife said how the hell she got nominated? all she did throughout the movie (The Changeling) was cry; "where's my sonnnnnnn"?Sure it may not really matter if TDK got snubbed, but it would have been cool to have compete against all the other picks.Not to mention breaking the elitist choices that are mostly Dramas.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:34 p.m. CST

    9000rpm

    by kwisatzhaderach

    You thought Master and Commander was insultingly stupid? What the fuck are you talking about?!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:34 p.m. CST

    oh yeah

    by Vern

    And I do not believe for a second that Ledger would've been nominated, or even discussed as a contender, if he hadn't died. I think he deserves it but I don't think those people would recognize that under different circumstances.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:35 p.m. CST

    TDK snub was somewhat expected... but no Leo??

    by SamLowry27

    His performance in RR blows most of these others out of the water. Rourke has one real emotional scene that he knocks out of the park. Leo has about 10, all masterfully done. I'm no Leo fan, but I can't believe he's not getting more attention. Huge snub.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:36 p.m. CST

    DannyGlovers

    by Rand92

    Yes, there are still boxoffice bumps. Oscar awards still probably mean an increase in rentals. Yes, unfortunately most people are still beholden to the opinion of the "experts" and are unable to think for themselves about whether they want to see a movie or not. But that is going to change. As soon as they see enough of these films to realize that most of them are not what they typically enjoy, then the bumps are going to stop. How long will that take? That depends on the viewer and how ingrained they are into thinking that Oscar=entertaining. Mark my words, the Oscars will be totally irrelevant within the next decade if they continue this trend of rewarding only obscure films.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Vern

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Spot on.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Vern nailed it

    by IAmLegolas

    in his "Well, at least we got Obama." posting. But award shows are bullshit any way you slice it, and classic movies aren't really know until 10-15 years have passed by.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:38 p.m. CST

    by RonnieBarzel

    "Once again this is the same academy that opted not to honor Citizen Kane, Casablanca, Double Indemnity, Star Wars, or Pulp Fiction with Best Picture, in most cases in favor of films that have been long-since forgotten." 'Casablanca' did win Best Picture, as well as Best Director and Best Adapted Screenplay. 'Star Wars' pretty much swept the technical awards, which makes sense since it was a B-movie with A-level production value, before losing to 'Annie Hall.' 'Pulp Fiction' lost to 'Forrest Gump,' a verdict I disagreed with at the time but have come to understand.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:38 p.m. CST

    Ledger would have gotten a nom if he were still alive

    by blindambition238

    Remember the AA nominate Depp for his Jack Sparrow in the 1st Pirates movie.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:38 p.m. CST

    know = known

    by IAmLegolas

    or I should have said "recognized"

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:38 p.m. CST

    Actually, Hanks got an Oscar for going full gay . . .

    by gruntybear

    Didn't he? For "Philadelphia?" I'm just sayin'.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Harry's got it all right...

    by lovecraftian

    Look TDK shouldn't win Best Picture. I loved it. I still love it. But there are plenty of other relatable films out there that were probably better. Having said that, TDK should've still gotten the nod. Why? Because of all things GLADIATOR won. And there is no one anywhere, at anytime, and anyhow that can convince me GLADIATOR was a better achievement than TDK. (I know we're comparing this year's films. Bear with me.) Nolan managed to somehow make something that had previously been relegated to pure fanboy summer fare and make it more than that. He made a relatable and even pretty believable film out of one of America's leading pop icons. That, in and of itself, means something. Giving out the nod to TDK wouldn't result in doing the same for HANCOCK or INDY, because it was nothing like those films. TDK affected people in a big way. Batman, the character, and by extension the Joker, are mythic images born out of the collective American psyche. And, unfortunately, up until now, (while the 1988 Burton film was a valiant effort)no one had truly captured why. I think Nolan really got it. So, in my humble opinion, not giving him the nod when so many previous films of lesser quality have received it is just not-so-veiled discrimination based on the subject matter of the work instead of the quality.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:40 p.m. CST

    And didn't Rex Reed say Synedoche, NY was

    by Pennsy

    the worst movie ever made?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:40 p.m. CST

    By the by...

    by lovecraftian

    He is right that it will directly result in poorer ratings than they would've gotten if there had been a Best Picture nod for TDK.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:40 p.m. CST

    I don't know Vern, they gave Johnny Depp

    by comedian_x

    a nomination for Jack Sparrow. The academy seems willing to acknowledge when an actor creates an Iconic character in a blockbuster -- at least these days.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:41 p.m. CST

    How did the academy fail to notice...

    by Kizeesh

    that The Reader was a pile of dull unmitigatedly drab shite? I mean yes winslet did capture perfecly the Germaic utter lack of je ne sais pas, by having her an ungainly clomping teutonic cougar, but the story was bland, preictable and unless you are a german riddled with holocaust guilt, it was unfathomably stupid.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:41 p.m. CST

    TDK better than Gladiator?!!

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Awwwwwww hell naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw!!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:41 p.m. CST

    FUCK. RIGHT. OFF.

    by henrydalton

    Seriously. I was so looking forward to the Best Pic noms. Wasn't expecting a Dark Knight win, just really wanted it to be recognised. And these are just... rubbish.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:41 p.m. CST

    FUCK. RIGHT. OFF.

    by henrydalton

    Seriously. I was so looking forward to the Best Pic noms. Wasn't expecting a Dark Knight win, just really wanted it to be recognised. And these are just... rubbish.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Dark Knight would've been nominated if...

    by Thanos0145

    George Clooney would've played Batman instead of Bale.Marvel will now hire Harvey Weinstein to help produce Captain America (set during the holocaust)so it can get nominated for best picture when it comes out.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:42 p.m. CST

    Now You See It?

    by mvckalel

    TDK wasn't and will never be the greatest movie ever...it's overrated, and (unfortunately) aided by Ledger's death. Iron Man was the 2008 superhero movie, it's a complete work that is enjoyable from beginning to end.............................but, really, do you now see that you might be wrong? That TDK is not the masterpiece you thought about? Obama already won, things are "brighter", get over it. Leave all those thoughts aside, rewatch TDK with a clean and empty mind, and you will see the truth. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . plus, if TDK had been nominated the ratings would've been higher (supposedly), either ways, next year, back down again...Wall-E was also robbed for Best Movie and Best Actor (you give the award to the animators). Speed Racer wasn't nominated for Visual Effects, how come? Hellboy II not for costumes, how come? GET OVER TDK, see the truth...

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:42 p.m. CST

    Danny...

    by lovecraftian

    Sorry man... But it's true.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:42 p.m. CST

    I'm even more shocked that there is no DK cinematography nom.

    by Evil Hobbit

    Dark Knight had easily one of the most impressive cinematography in a film since since... I dunno, a long long time. And not just because of Imax. Bummer bummer, at least Nolan should have gotten a best Director nom. I can see how it didn't get a best picture though.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:43 p.m. CST

    This is a Joke

    by djscott95

    13 noms for "Forrest Gump 2" and no BP Nom for "The Wrestler"!?! Worst... Nominations... EVER. Here's hoping that Slumdog kicks Fincher's overrated ass all over the place that night.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:44 p.m. CST

    lovecraftian

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Nope. One reason-- the leading man in Gladiator knows how to act.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:44 p.m. CST

    Oh and Wall-E is defiinately best director/best picture material

    by Evil Hobbit

    Fuck the reader.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:44 p.m. CST

    TDK got the Bat-Pole

    by Kentucky Colonel

    right up the Bat-Hole

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:44 p.m. CST

    "We mortals are but shadows and dust...

    by kwisatzhaderach

    shadows and dust Maximus!" Gladiator shat all over The Dark Knight.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:45 p.m. CST

    FUCK The Reader!

    by thewizardofoz

    So angry right now! This was the worst awards season film I've seen in a while! Pretentious, self indulgent and the most obvious attempt at "oscar bait" I've ever seen. NO NO NO! It's rediculous that this would be nominated. Ten years from now everyone will still be discussing the Dark Knight and what an achievment it was. Will anyone even REMEMBER The Reader?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Evil Hobbit

    by sambrook

    The Dark Knight DID get Best Cinematography. And rightfully so - above everything else that was one of the key strengths in the film. And I completely agree about WALL-E.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:47 p.m. CST

    WHAT?! NO NOMS FOR "PUNISHER: WARZONE"?

    by IAmMrMonkey!

    I'm outraged.<p>In fifty years time, people will still be discussing that masterpiece.<p>Fuck you Oscar people.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Honestly Punisher: War Zone

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    ....could have gotten a Cinematography and Sound nomination.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:50 p.m. CST

    Kwisatzhaderach... The sleeper must awaken.

    by lovecraftian

    Look. It's useless to say that GLADIATOR was better. It wasn't; at least not as an achievement. It was BRAVEHEART in Rome. I liked Derek Jacobi. And of course, the late Oliver Reed was amazing. But it's easy to lend gravitas to a story like that. TDK managed to actually take seriously something that previously not been and make it accessible and believable.--And Danny, seriously, you may not have liked the "growl", but we all know Christian Bale can act.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:51 p.m. CST

    Another Snubbery!!!

    by Mathom

    I'm amazed at how many TDK "Not that great" quotes I'm seeing on this page. Did somebody splice clips of Batman and Robin into the reels when you watched it? I'm not suprised by the Accademy's decision as most of the greatest films in history are slighted at the Oscars. And The Dark Knight truly is of that glorious stock. Here is to the truly best movie of the year.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:51 p.m. CST

    Gladiator>Braveheart

    by Thanos0145

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:51 p.m. CST

    TDK wasn't going to win BP or BD anyway

    by Liberty Valance

    TDK had no chance of taking home Best Picture or Best Director. Zero. Zilch. NO FUCKING CHANCE. So why is a meaningless nomination so important to you? Nobody ever remembers the losers. You always have 2 movies vying for the big prize (Button and Slumdog this year) and the other 3 are mere ballast. TDK wouldn't even been one of the final two, so fuck it. No movie whose main character growls every line is ever going to win Best Picture. The Academy was right to shun this glorified action movie.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:51 p.m. CST

    sambrook: thanks for that,

    by Evil Hobbit

    I am so blind for not seeing that.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:53 p.m. CST

    And...

    by Mathom

    Gladiator is weak.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:53 p.m. CST

    I wish to adopt Kentucky Colonel's Bat Pole/Bat Hole

    by Pennsy

    as my official .sig. 10 words that sum it all up.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 12:56 p.m. CST

    lovecraftian

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Christian could act great when he was a kid. I think he lost that now and he equates physical change to great acting. Rescue Dawn is a great example of that. His acting is absolute unlikeably boring shit. I sat there thinking how much better the movie would have been if Steve Zahn were the lead. Fuck Christian Bale. Act my ass. He can growl, mope, lose weight, and bulk up. Real fucking impressive.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1 p.m. CST

    Does anyone care? Does anyone watch?

    by conspiracy

    Just entertain me, give me quality entertainment, and keep the self importance to a low rumble. I've never watched the Academies grand circle jerk..and never will. And by the way...Wall-E was PURE art...simply beautiful.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:03 p.m. CST

    oh by the way-- CAROLINA KENNEDY is OUT!!

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    THANK JESUS!! I'm probably more qualified for the Senate than that hizz-oh.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:05 p.m. CST

    And speaking of Snubbs...

    by Mathom

    No love for Cloverfield?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:05 p.m. CST

    Let's be honest...

    by ScottinDC

    Yes, we all loved The Dark Knight. Ya, Heather Ledger was cool and it made a ton of cash...BUT....the simple fact is it simply isn't Best Picture material. (There, I said it and am now eagerly awaiting all the fanboi abuse). Some of the acting wasn't quite as tight as it could've been and Two-Face's character seemed rushed and almost tacked on as he hurdled toward insanity and violence. The editing also wasn't very good (highly noticeable on repeat viewings). And yes, the IMAX scenes looked kickass....but seeing something in massive scale is NOT the same as 'gorgeous cinematography work'. TDK kicked ass...but it wasn't the best film of the year by any means.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:06 p.m. CST

    Well, I don't think that Depp was Oscarworthy in Pirates...

    by DerLanghaarige

    ...I think he was more than Ledger, because Depp's performance took an otherwise pretty normal summermovie to a whole different level of entertainment, while Ledger was overacting in an otherwise pretty low key crime drama. Imagine DeNiro's would have acted in Heat like he did in Rocky & Bullwinkle.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:06 p.m. CST

    Cloverfield deserved a Sound nom as well....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:07 p.m. CST

    The Bank Robbery scene = best directed scene

    by most excellent ninja

    Nolan should have been nominated, the bank robbery alone is better directed than any of the other movies combined. The hospital explosion. batman fighting the mobsters in the carpark with that music. yeah academy can suck a dick.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:07 p.m. CST

    But I would argue...

    by lovecraftian

    That THE PRESTIGE and EQUILIBRIUM (though, that's a bit older) proves he can act. I can't believe physical strain is the sum total of his acting tool kit.--As for RESCUE DAWN, I like Steve Zahn okay... But Jeremy Davies is ALWAYS the shit. See the HELTER SKELTER remake and his audition reel for it if you can.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:07 p.m. CST

    The Dark Knights snub

    by skimn

    Those who argue that TDK made 500 whatever million versus all the other nominees (Pennsy, looking at you), is an empty arguement. But as I stated earlier both the Producers Guild chose TDK in their nominees for best picture, and the Directirs Guild chose Nolan in their choices for best director. Those are two big nominations from the unions themselves. That TDK got snubbed in both, in favor of The Reader the usual "IMPORTANT film dealing with the HOLOCAUST and GUILT", is the reason that a lot of people are upset.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:09 p.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD ohh shit the fuck up you cunt

    by most excellent ninja

    you are the worst poster this side of animalstructure. Bale is probably the second best actor on the planet, second to Day Lewis. You talk so much shit. The Machinist you forget he is skinny and he's just losing his mind, the scene where he confronts jennifer jason leigh's character with the photo was amazing. Fuck yourself dickblood, you know shit.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:09 p.m. CST

    I'll admit I've joined in the Button/Gump

    by Samuel Fulmer

    comparisons, but since when did Gump become this beloved film. I swear 6 months ago people were moaning that it was the sappy film that beat Pulp Fiction for best picture (which let's face it, both films pale next to Ed Wood). Now it's a beloved classic. What a difference a few months make.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:10 p.m. CST

    Bale's acting

    by skimn

    I still think his debut in Spielberg's Empire Of The Sun is one of the best "child" performances in film.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:12 p.m. CST

    The Wrestler was totally ROBBED.

    by cinemixtape.com

    I don't care about the reason, Springsteen not being nominated is a fucking crime. And it was simply the best film of the year. I feel that it's the only bonafide classic of any of these films. Both times I've seen it my heart has been in my throat at the end. Milk was probably the second best of the year followed by Slumdog. Great films, also, but not as good as The Wrestler.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:13 p.m. CST

    most excellent ninja -- you sound like a fucking retard

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    fat 13 year old slobbering all over himself "And and and and Batman is cool....and and and he beat up the mob....and and and and I like the music when it goes DA DA DA DA.....and and he just kicks a lot of butt....and and and it should have won every award in the galaxy as best movie of all time ever!!!"

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Bale should've won for American Psycho

    by Samuel Fulmer

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Oh, and fuck Benjamin Button.

    by cinemixtape.com

    It won't win anything major because the lead character doesn't do anything in 3 hours. He just observes and people die. It's a "great movie" for people who don't watch many movies.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:14 p.m. CST

    I agree. Bale is genius in Empire.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    And The Machinist is like most of his films, overrated shit. How does he manage to be so consistently boring? He even looks half asleep in Terminator.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:16 p.m. CST

    TDK did not recieve a best pic nom because...

    by Droid

    Hollywood realised that Heat, a far superior film which TDK mimics, didn't get nominated for ANYTHING.<p>So feel lucky to have gotten your couple of noms TDK fans.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:18 p.m. CST

    Fuck it. All is one in Darkseid

    by most excellent ninja

    hopefully Final Crisis happens before and Darkseid eats the academy "All is One in Darkseid".

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:18 p.m. CST

    I couldn't be happier at the Wall*E and TDK snubs

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    I haven't seen The Reader or Frost/Nixon yet, but if anything people should be more upset that The Fall got snubbed for cinematography, The Visitor and Defiance all but got ignored and once again comedy is all but absent save for Downey Jr. The foreign nominations are a joke as are the FX contenders.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Bollocks as usual

    by Wormie1

    How come the Oscars, Baftas, Golden Globes, etc. come up with the same small group of films as each other every year? I suspect the clueless voters only watch the same six screeners they get sent over the whole year. It's pretty clear that these awards shows despise OUR favorite genres, the most popular genres. It's also clear that they have a pathetic record (particularly over the past thirty years or so) of not picking the films which have had a lasting value, appeal and impact. The Oscars is just an excuse to hype box office turkeys like The Reader. Although, hey, I loved Slumdog.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Where was the outrage when Batman Begins

    by Samuel Fulmer

    wasn't nominated? It's better than The Dark Knight.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:19 p.m. CST

    No Dark Knight

    by AlwaysThere

    Praise the Lord.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:20 p.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    by most excellent ninja

    and you sound like a dumb cunt every time you post. kill yourself.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:22 p.m. CST

    most excellent ninja

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    "......and and and Christian Bale he's like really strong in this one and and and and batcave is burned they are working on it and and and and and its cool cause guy gots face half burned but he still alive and and and when he screams its like AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH and and and Joker-Man is scary too and and and and I like the DA DA DA DA music and and and pretty much its greatest movie of all time and and and yeah....its the bestest!"

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:24 p.m. CST

    FUCKING BOOOOORRRRRRRRRRING

    by SomaShine

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:25 p.m. CST

    I hope there's a buddy cop movie montage

    by Samuel Fulmer

    That'll help break up the monotany of seeing people get awards, because we don't want to see that. Who wants to see people get awards?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:26 p.m. CST

    funwithwords and the rest

    by Slaphappy Slim

    A lesson: It's called your opinion. You can state your opinion as if it's gospel truth all you want, but it still boils down to whether or not something is or isn't your cup of tea. Thanks, funwithwords, for bearing the stressful responsibility of being so "level-headed" and informing us that TDK wasn't "worthy" enough, or whatever. I stand in awe of your vast intellectual superiority and infallible taste. Oh, right, it's not "taste", but in your warped view "truth". So let's sum it up: any one of you out there want the definitive word on any particular film, guys like funwithwords will be thrilled to "educate" you.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:26 p.m. CST

    sseriously

    by lucky slevin

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:28 p.m. CST

    "The gilded ghetto".

    by Pennsy

    That's what E! Entertainment Television's website said about TDK's snubbing today: "The Dark Knight did earn eight overall nominations, but aside from its expected acting honor for the late Heath Ledger, it didn't bash its way out of the gilded ghetto for big-budget superhero movies: the special-effects and technical categories."

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Kentucky Colonel

    by codymr

    "TDK got the Bat-Pole" <P> LOL... very, very funny!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:28 p.m. CST

    The Dark Knight SHOULD have been nominated

    by Nickn328

    Seriously, THE READER? Indy 4 got better reviews, Dark Knight is one of the best reviewed movies of the year, and...God this is an awful list.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:29 p.m. CST

    sseriously

    by lucky slevin

    fuck the academy. who cares what those self righteous pricks have to say. watch something great that wasn't on this list like Let the Right One in instead of this garbage.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:31 p.m. CST

    This Oscar telecast...

    by codymr

    will be the longest in history... half the show will be taken up looking back at the people who passed away... there seems to be a lot this year.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Really bummed out over Dark Knight.

    by heyscot

    I thought the direction, writing, and picture was worthy of nomination. It's so disappointing that it didn't get a nod for Best Director, Best Picture, or Best Screenplay.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Why don't you two fight to the death?

    by Garbageman33

    No matter who loses, the rest of us win.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:34 p.m. CST

    New Oscar Category!

    by ScottinDC

    That's what the Academy needs - "...and the Oscar for Jewish suffering goes to..." - that's what Directors do when they want a cheap, easy Oscar (they do a film about WW2 atrocities or related tales like the limpdick film that was The Reader). I still don't think TDK was even close to Best Picture; but I do agree the Academy has a VERY transparent agenda and it governs the way it votes big time.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:37 p.m. CST

    These oscar noms almost make this movie year depressing

    by Stengah

    This is fucking retarded. I remember shit tons of memorable films i watched this year.... or did I?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:39 p.m. CST

    loserguy3000

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    I too received an email and I did sign up for Mori's initial newsletter, but under a different email address. The one he spammed was the one I registered on here with.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:40 p.m. CST

    Wow.

    by PTSDPete

    An outright snub. Bastards.</p> NO VIEWERS FOR YOU, MOTHERFUCKING OSCARS !!!!! </P>

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:40 p.m. CST

    loserguy3000

    by Six Demon Bag

    shut up and go away if this is your biggest problem...gitmo has been closed down and im rounding up all the benjamin button haters and giving them a one-way ticket to go live in the BEARD

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Wall-E vs. Kung Fu Panda

    by Plathismo

    Snowdog, I'm with you--having watched both films repeatedly on blu-ray...Kung Fu Panda is my favorite of the two. Now, normally Dreamworks + Talking Animals = Vomit, as far as I'm concerned. But KFP transcended its roots. As for Wall-E, I hate to admit this, but Devin at CHUD nailed it--it's 30 minutes of a brilliant film followed by about an hour of a pretty good one. For me, it adds up to less than the sum of its parts. I can't help but think it would have been a stronger movie if it had stuck to its early convictions and junked the humans altogether--their pudgy, soft-focus cartoonishness just feels out of place after the photorealism of the early scenes. A story about humanity's robotic servants continuing their rote tasks long after their creators went extinct could have made for a more interesting (and sobering) movie, IMO.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Nominate TDK just for the ratings boost

    by Garbageman33

    Seriously, The Reader has a .07% chance of winning best picture. As would any of the films that occupied that 5th slot. So why not at least pick a nominee that'll put asses in seats?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:42 p.m. CST

    Danny Glover

    by Reckoner

    So, Danny, you think Russell Crowe is a much better actor than Christian Bale? You think Russell Crowe was better in 3:10 to Yuma than Bale? Bale out-acted Crowe and had a better character to work with. Even though Crowe was good, it wasn't as challening a role as Bale's. Russell Crowe has been sleepwalking through the last few of his films (3:10, Body of Lies, looks like State of Play is the same, boring shit from him)

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Benjamin Button was lackluster as fuck

    by Cruel_Kingdom

    Seriously. Who the fuck are these people who love this movie so much, and why?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:44 p.m. CST

    SHUT UP ABOUT THE DARK KNIGHT< FOR FUCK'S SAKE!!!!!!!!!!!

    by cinemixtape.com

    Fucking hell, you morons. It wasn't that good. That ferry boat shit at the end was so convoluted, it was basically one long non-sequitir. Ledger was really good, but he really shouldn't win. The direction was fine, not earth-shattering. Good Lord. Being upset about this is ridiculous. It's a COMIC BOOK movie.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Im boycotting the oscars...

    by nick b - london

    and here's why... Cos i am fed up of the same predictable arty farty guff being pushed into our faces year in year out. The last 7/8 years the winners have been dull and the choice sucked too. I am not going mad about TDK not being nominated, I called that one after I saw the film. But Slumped dogged Million bleugh and Frosty/Nixons Talky Talky movie over such amazement as Wall-E and The Wrestler? Where is the Academy's balls? Oh year, in the mouths of the Weinsteins, of course!!!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:44 p.m. CST

    reckoner

    by Six Demon Bag

    it was a draw

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:45 p.m. CST

    The Importance Of Being Oscar

    by skimn

    The best picture winner may get a week or two bump in the box office if they are still in the theaters, but outside of that? The best picture seldom if ever sell big on DVD. Titanic and LOTR excluded. Did Forest Whitaker's Oscar help land him his role in Vantage Point? Halle Berry in Catwoman? Did Phillip Seymour Hoffman's price go up all of a sudden, and now he has a pick of better scripts? Anyone RECALL who won best actress last year? Ummm that foriegn chick...The Oscars are just the final stop in the dog and pony show that this time of year has become. The common jamoke could care less, and the entertainment starved enjoy it like a Kentucky Derby with people.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Reckoner

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Okay okay....I forgot about 3:10. I think its Bale's only great adult performance. I agree he was better than Crowe in that film. But that was more a writing thing. Overall Crowe wipes the floor with that boy. In The Insider and L.A. Confidential he puts out performances that Bale will never rival.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Being a "comic book movie" makes it less worthy of praise?

    by Cruel_Kingdom

    Stupid.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:46 p.m. CST

    but yes....Body of Lies looked gay as fuck.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    No offense to the gays.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Less worthy of praise?

    by cinemixtape.com

    No, but it does make it less important.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Funny, how many of the Bale lovers are the...

    by mrfan

    same ones who cried, bitched, and moaned when it was announced he was playing Batman. Make up your minds. <p>Oh, and Crowe is the better actor of the two.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:47 p.m. CST

    nick b - london

    by Cruel_Kingdom

    The "arty farty" films you refer to are selected over the popcorn fare that you so obviously love because they are far more artistic films. Period.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:47 p.m. CST

    also to any face book people

    by nick b - london

    http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/group.php?gid=50835610951&ref=mf My Boycott the Oscars group. Come join, it will be fun. Lets spread the hate!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:47 p.m. CST

    no dark knight wah wah wah

    by slappy jones

    while i would rather see it there than the turgid reader i would rather see the wrestler then than tdk. i mean come on just because it made a ton of money doesn't make it the best film.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:49 p.m. CST

    Kid Idioteque

    by Cruel_Kingdom

    I do not share your view that a film's type of source material makes it less important. Good is good no matter what it's based on.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Don't worry Dark Knight fans...

    by waitingimpatientlyforingloriousbastards

    Inglourious Basterds will be the best movie of 2009, in my estimation ;), and there's no doubt in my mind that at most it may receive a screenplay nomination...

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Danny

    by Reckoner

    I agree with you about The Insider. Crowe was unbelievable in that, and it's one of my favorite movies. But I think the overall body of work, Christian has the edge. Bale has been more exciting to watch the last several years, and he gives 100% in every role he does. Crowe just doesn't seem to care that much anymore. He's still a fat ass from Body of Lies, and Ridley Scott demanded that he lose the weight for Nottingham, but he hasn't yet.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Dark Knight didn't have SEAN PENN in it

    by MattmanReturns

    If Sean Penn had played Harvey Dent, the academy would be all over that shit because they fucking love that cocksucker. He's the worst over-actor ever and I don't understand why any movie he's in automatically gets a free fucking pass. And why does Dark Knight get best makeup but not best screenplay? Think they got their categories mixed up... since the only makeup was messy Heath clown face, and the rest was CG Harvey Dent. Oscars are a joke.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:53 p.m. CST

    Dr. Dickblood

    by Vern

    If you don't like Christian Bale in Batman, whatever. You think he's a boring actor, I don't get it, but fine. But I challenge you to claim he was bad in AMERICAN PSYCHO. You have consistently gone beyond the call of duty in being so utterly wrong about pretty much everything that it seems impossible, but I DARE you to cross into this line of headscratchingly bizarre, bordering on brain damage incorrectness. DO YOU HAVE THE BALLS, DICKBLOOD?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:53 p.m. CST

    Bale's good if he gets over the top characters

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Harsh Times and American Psycho being two prime examples. Crowe is terrible when he's asked to do this. Crowe's better at the subtle stuff (like The Insider), but he has a tendancy to go so subtle that he looks like he's ready to go into a coma.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:54 p.m. CST

    I don't know waitingimpatientlyforingloriousb astards

    by mrfan

    That Tom and Jerry origin movie might have the edge.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:54 p.m. CST

    Re: Cruel Kingom

    by nick b - london

    So The Wrestler and Wall-e are popcorn flicks??? Read what I said you numpty! Besides, Can you say A Beautiful Mind or No Country For Old Men will be see in 20 years time as masterpieces?? No. Just films that undeservedly won Oscars cos Money talks!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:54 p.m. CST

    Mattman Returns

    by Cruel_Kingdom

    Sorry, but you are retarded. Had to be said. There, I said it.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:54 p.m. CST

    Milk by way of Harvey Dent

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Now there's a movie!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:54 p.m. CST

    'Kay, now if Slumdog wins BP...

    by Ravetin

    ...I'll instantly forgive the insane lack of Gran Torino and Wall-E in the same category.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:55 p.m. CST

    No Country for Old Men is a fucking masterpiece

    by Cruel_Kingdom

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:55 p.m. CST

    If TDK bombed....

    by drewlicious

    Would Warner Bros still be cutting 800 people? It was a record year and they're afraid of not having another one. A lot of this is a pre-emptive strike against loss they're afraid to have. So if they make money this is all for nothing.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:56 p.m. CST

    And fucking Titanic got fucking nominated ....

    by PTSDPete

    Good-for-drivel, senile Zionist hacks !

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:57 p.m. CST

    OK enough with TDK...what about The Wrestler?

    by ScottinDC

    So am I missing something? Everyone's fired up about TDK not being nominated for Best Picture (which it's not really worthy of) but Darren Aranovsky who directed The Wrestler doesn't get nominated at all but Stephen Daldry does for the Reader which was like watching two retarded geriatric flies fuck? And The Reader gets a best picture nom but The Wrestler is left off the list? What am I missing?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:57 p.m. CST

    Gran Torino? Negro please

    by Cruel_Kingdom

    You thought THAT should be up for Best Picture? It wasn't even original, and was racist as fuck to boot. And Clint OVERACTED with that guttural growl that was a cross between Bale in TDK and Carl from Sling Blade.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Cruel_Kingdom

    by MattmanReturns

    Sean Penn must've sucked your cock too. I don't blame you for standing up for him, I'm sure he's quite good at fellating by now, after going down on the entire academy. Enjoy.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2 p.m. CST

    What Penn movie GOT A PASS?

    by Cruel_Kingdom

    Tell me the bad Penn movie that received Oscar nominations, Mattman Returns. I'm really curious to see how far your stupidity can reach.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2 p.m. CST

    The Academy doesn't know the difference between makeup and CG

    by Garbageman33

    Let's face it, the Academy is old and out of touch. Always have been. That should've been obvious the moment Hoop Dreams was snubbed ten years ago. You can make arguments for and against The Dark Knight, but the Hoop Dreams snubbing was so blatant, I think it may have given Roger Ebert cancer. After that, nothing they do surprises me. Especially not nominating a comic book movie.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:01 p.m. CST

    MattmanReturns

    by Reckoner

    Are you freaking nuts? What the hell do you have against him? You think he's the "worst over-actor ever"... Penn's range is astounding. Have you seen Dead Man Walking, Carlito's Way, Fast Times, I could list 10 more.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Milk got a free pass

    by MattmanReturns

    What the fuck do you think I've been talking about?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:02 p.m. CST

    Cruel_Kingdom

    by waitingimpatientlyforingloriousbastards

    I couldn't have said it better myself. I haven't seen the Wrestler, Frost/Nixon, or Slumdog yet, but from everything else I've seen, nothing from 2008 really stands up to No Country For Old Men or There Will Be Blood

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:02 p.m. CST

    MILK was one hell of a movie

    by Cruel_Kingdom

    Have you actually SEEN it?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:03 p.m. CST

    Sean "I cry in every role" Penn

    by MattmanReturns

    Oh fuck, what have I done? I've made fun of Sean Cocksucking Penn and everyone's pissed. I know you all love him because he cries in every role... but that's not good acting. Why the fuck did he start bawling in the Interpreter? I'll never know.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:05 p.m. CST

    Why did he cry?

    by Cruel_Kingdom

    I'm gonna go out on a limb and see either because the director wanted that or the script called for it. You don't like him because he selects roles in which he has to cry? Um...

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:05 p.m. CST

    I'll give you Carlito's Way

    by MattmanReturns

    He was good in that, because he played a cocksucking asshole.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:05 p.m. CST

    GT is leagues better than...

    by Ravetin

    ...all the other Clint movies that have nabbed major noms in the last few years.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:05 p.m. CST

    to me, BB is perfect...

    by Six Demon Bag

    stop yr bitchin, these are the facts ladys...TDK is not nominated. done. Button is. Does that make it a better film? No..it is a better film because everything it was nominated for...I do think Button is the best films that i've seen in the last few years. I challenge any of you haters to find any flaw in Button or a better film..til then shut the fuck up...and boycott the oscars..i really do give a shit

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:07 p.m. CST

    Six Demon Bag

    by Cruel_Kingdom

    Benjamin as a character had no personality. That's a pretty big fucking flaw there.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:07 p.m. CST

    The academy doesn't reward subtlety

    by Garbageman33

    That's why The Wrestler didn't get a best picture nod. Meanwhile, Angelina Jolie and her histrionics got nominated. Reminds me of the year Sean Penn beat Bill Murray because Bill Murray never stood in the middle of a Tokyo street and screamed "IS THAT MY DAUGHTER IN THERE?!"

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:07 p.m. CST

    The Reader over TDK AND Revolutionary Road?

    by flickchick85

    Come ON! And I get that RR disappointed some people (not as much as the Reader, though), so I'm not shocked it didn't get a best Best Picture nod, and I loved Benjamin Button, but there is NO WAY Brad Pitt turned in a stronger performance in that than Leo in Revolutionary Road. I can't even believe that. This was the best performance of DiCaprio's career and the Academy didn't give a shit. And damn, I'm thinking Winslet's gonna lose again, too.<p>I also loved Frost/Nixon, but Chris Nolan deserved a spot in that directors list over both Ron Howard and Stephen Daltry. <p>Yep, overall, these nominations somehow feel like one big "Fuck You" by the Academy. I'm glad In Bruges got in there, though, with that Screenplay nod (aka, the "sorry, our memory's not good enough to nominate you for Best Picture, so here's a consolation prize" nomination that was also given to Almost Famous and Eternal Sunshine for the same reason).

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:08 p.m. CST

    Best Foreign Film...

    by MJDeViant

    Is "Let the Right One In" eligible? If it is, then that deserves the best foreign film Oscar.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:08 p.m. CST

    flickchick85

    by waitingimpatientlyforingloriousbastards

    I agree about In Bruges. It's actually my favorite movie of 2008.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:09 p.m. CST

    My Disgust Knows no ends

    by ChocolateJesusMan

    No Best Picture Nomination for Paul Blart Mall Cop...I say Boycott

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:10 p.m. CST

    Find a flaw in Benjamin Button?

    by Garbageman33

    That's like saying, "Find a drunk person on Spring Break".

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:10 p.m. CST

    MJDeViant

    by waitingimpatientlyforingloriousbastards

    Let the Right One In didn't get nominated by its country of origin, so it wasn't able to be voted on by the Academy. I agree with you though.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Tell No One

    by waitingimpatientlyforingloriousbastards

    was also an amazing foreign language film... no love from France.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:12 p.m. CST

    Cruel Kingdom

    by MattmanReturns

    Benjamin had no personality? Now I see where you're coming from... subtle, nuanced characters do nothing for you. You need a cry-baby who bellows all his lines, like Sean Penn, so you'll know exactly how you're supposed to feel.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:12 p.m. CST

    In Bruges

    by Reckoner

    So glad the screenplay got recognized. It's one of those films where the dialogue is so good, that even if you've seen the movie 3 times, there are new quotes that pop up that you forgot were so damn funny or good or whatever the first time you saw it. It reminds me of Pulp Fiction in that way...

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Mattman Returns

    by Cruel_Kingdom

    Nice language there with the "cocksucking asshole" during a serious film discussion. I'll bet Ebert frequently says, "Well, this guy is a cocksucking asshole..." I hear that Francois Truffaut, Andre Basin, and the Cahiers du Cinema crowd used to judge movies based on the "cocksucking asshole" criterion, as well.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:14 p.m. CST

    F*ck the oscars commitee in the @ss with hot iron bars.

    by Damien Chowder

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:14 p.m. CST

    fookin' Bruges

    by Reckoner

    I've never been there, but I'm sure it's a sh*thole.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Yes, the subtlety of Benjamin Button...

    by Cruel_Kingdom

    Without that manipulative swelling music I would not have known that I was supposed to be sad when the infant Benjamin died, right...

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Vern

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    He was well cast in American Psycho. He can play an asshole well. The movie sucks balls, and I'm shocked you would bring it up after your rants on misogyny. The problem with Bale is, he is sort of an asshole in everything he has done since. There is nothing likable about his portrayal of Bruce Wayne. I'm completely wrong about this? There are lots of people that will agree that Bale was the weakest thing in TDK.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:16 p.m. CST

    Bale was better than Crowe in 3:10? WTF?

    by Droid

    Crowe shat all over Bale in that. Crowe was charismatic as fuck and Bale was, well... Bale. He plays two types. The strong, silent type with a moral agenda or slick, rich boy. In the Batman flicks he gets to play both. Don't get me wrong, he's a good actor and is brilliant in American Psycho but his range is shit.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:17 p.m. CST

    Danny, the weakest thing in TDK

    by Reckoner

    was Eckhart's courtroom scene. It came across as totally forced and premeditated.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:17 p.m. CST

    Serious film discussion?

    by MattmanReturns

    I like how you berate me for the "cocksucking asshole" remark, yet your entire argument consists of calling me "retarded" and "stupid".

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:17 p.m. CST

    Reckoner

    by waitingimpatientlyforingloriousbastards

    I know what you mean! I've watched In Bruges 3 times now, and each time I get into it even more.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:17 p.m. CST

    If Holocaust = Oscar Bait, then Rob Zombie's bound to get an Osc

    by AgentArchangel

    Mark my words, the 2015 Oscars will be the year of "Werewolf Women of the SS"! Best Actor: Nicholas Cage, Best Original Screenplay, Best Score, Best Cinematography, and Best Picture! You heard it here first!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:17 p.m. CST

    Did Jonathan Winters win an emmy...

    by Isolar

    ...when he played Benjamin Button on television in the early eighties? Wasn't that the name of Mork & Mindy's kid who was born as an adult and aged backwards?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:18 p.m. CST

    Benjamin Button is a bad remake of Forrest Gump

    by BigTuna

    I can't believe people on this site like that boring, recycled, Eric Roth bullshit.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:19 p.m. CST

    Mattman Returns

    by Cruel_Kingdom

    I was only stating fact when I called you a fucking moron. Oh, I guess I didn't call you that... Well, now I have, you fucking moron.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:21 p.m. CST

    It's all fixed

    by SpikeTBB

    I have, for a long time, suspected the Oscars are just negotiated and traded off and fixed by the studio heads. Not voted on. Its not the voters who count it is who counts the votes. TDK doesn't need an Oscar to boost DVD sales, and that is what the Oscars have been reduced to I think. They want Benjamen Buttons to be unquestionably regarded as a classic heart rending blah blah blah. No one better dare think it is less than that. I didn't like Forrest Gump or Private Ryan either. They weren't bad but they didn't do anything for me either. Just not my cup o tea. But the business wants that wonderful rep that if YOU don't love their movie then something is wrong with YOU. Why wouldn't they? Titanic was mediocre but if you say that in some circles its like blasphemy. The Emperor's new clothes syndrome. So now that dvd sales and rentals are so vital to their profit I am sure they make deals. "You take Best Actor and let me have Best Picture. I'll take Best Editing and we can give this one Best Sound. It need the boost to push it to the 15 million mark."

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:22 p.m. CST

    BB music was actually pretty minimalist

    by Six Demon Bag

    garbageman33 still waiting on the flaw or do you need to see the film first?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:22 p.m. CST

    WHAT THE FUCK?

    by Out of your element

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:22 p.m. CST

    Reckoner

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Hmmmmm...that scene was a bit weak. But overall I think Aaron did a much better job than Bale. He is likable, and he has charisma....something Bale knows nothing about. You know what made that scene feel cheap was that shitty ass piano playing lightly. God that shit sounded like an after-school special on teen pregnancy. It was for that music cue right there that Hans didn't get nominated. Well.....that and the fact that 30 people wrote the score.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:23 p.m. CST

    Just got one thing 2 say:

    by steele8280

    Richard King - Dark Knight - Best Sound Design... what y'all taling about???? SNUBBED MY ASSSSS!!!!!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:23 p.m. CST

    Cruel

    by MattmanReturns

    So I've evolved from retarded, to stupid, to fucking moron. Yes, you are clearly the epitome of "serious film discussion."

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:24 p.m. CST

    WHAT THE FUCK?

    by Out of your element

    Fucking academy is full of a buch of twats. Harry, Benjamin Button wasnt that good.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:24 p.m. CST

    MATTMAN RETARDS

    by BringingSexyBack

    Nothing ... just felt like writing that subject line.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:26 p.m. CST

    BringingSexyBack

    by MattmanReturns

    I hope that username isn't taken... that's brilliant

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:28 p.m. CST

    MATTMANRETURNS = PIMP MADE

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:28 p.m. CST

    HAVEN'T SEEN MILK BUT DOES IT TOP DEAD MAN?

    by BringingSexyBack

    Because that was once in a lifetime brilliance.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:31 p.m. CST

    Superhero Flick vs Holocaust Flick

    by buffywrestling

    "It's not enough to bash in heads, you have to bash in minds" - Captain Hammer

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:31 p.m. CST

    Dead Man

    by ScottinDC

    You mean the Johnny Depp movie? Jim Jarmusch kicked ass with that film (it's imminently watchable over and over again).

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:32 p.m. CST

    The Reader and Gran Torino both susked balls

    by Outlaw

    The Reader was a shitty story with good acting (from Winslet) while GT was a good-ish story (with piss-poor shitty acting...minus Clint). Disappointed to see the Reader get a best movie nod though. Wall-e or TDK should have been up their, but no real sweat off of my balls.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:33 p.m. CST

    SpikeTBB-I wouldn't be shocked

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Benjamin Button has currently grossed 115 million dollars on a 150 million dollar budget after being out for almost a month. It has a very long way to go to break even, let alone make a decent profit.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:33 p.m. CST

    Rock me Sexy Jesus was robbed...

    by Alonzo Mosely

    Can you imagine the entire middle of the country watching in shock before grunting in unison, "Hon, get me my gun, I'm a gonna go to Hollywood and kill them Jeebus mocking fuckers..."

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:33 p.m. CST

    Dead Man's Chest?

    by MattmanReturns

    Yeah that was pretty brilliant, even though it didn't have Sean Penn, Lord of All Cocksuckers in it.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:33 p.m. CST

    ScottinDC

    by Reckoner

    Dead Man Walking... Sean Penn is in both Milk and Dead Man Walking... ha ha Though I have seen Dead Man w/ Depp. It was oddly enjoyable, though I could watch Depp in anything

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:34 p.m. CST

    I MEANT DEAD MAN WALKING

    by BringingSexyBack

    Lazy me typing on a Treo ...

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:34 p.m. CST

    Maybe if Katie Holmes was in The Dark Knight

    by Samuel Fulmer

    It would've gotten nominated.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:34 p.m. CST

    But it did have Crispin Glover

    by ScottinDC

    "They're shooting the buffalo!"

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:35 p.m. CST

    William Blake! You were a poet and a painter!

    by Kizeesh

    Do you have any tobacco?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:35 p.m. CST

    speaking of Depp and Bale,

    by Reckoner

    PUBLIC ENEMIES will own your ass and Oscar's next year!!!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Hehe

    by ScottinDC

    Sorry - had to throw Dead Man out there ;) I freakin dug that weird ass movie (I need an Indian buddy named Nobody to help me scalp some fuckers here at work).

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:36 p.m. CST

    why the fuck are people saying Wall-E was robbed?

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    There is an Animation category for a fucking reason. You think the Academy can just pick which animated film is really really extra special good and transcends the Animation category for Best Picture territory? I don't get it. Why make the fucking category if it means jack shit.....if anything they need to get rid of one of the Sound awards and make BEST STUNTS so Jason Statham can finally get a fucking Oscar.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:38 p.m. CST

    Lord of all Cocksuckers is taken....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Its a three-way tie between Chloë Sevigny, Coughlins Laws, and Shia LeBeouf.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:38 p.m. CST

    Wall-E

    by Reckoner

    Am I the only one who doesn't have much desire to sit through this?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:39 p.m. CST

    Crispin Glover in Dead Man

    by Kizeesh

    is my favourite part, especially as he begins by obscurely narrating the closing seconds of the movie and the thoughts running through Blake's then moving from inquisitive to angry, vindictive and finally grave. Essentially Microcosming the entire movie into a 3 minute exchange before summing up the horror of it all by pointing out the buffalo in an almost angel of doom sort of way.<p> I got a lot of time for that film.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:39 p.m. CST

    Yep, Chloe was good

    by Reckoner

    in The Brown Bunny.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Benjamin Button had no personality

    by drewlicious

    His presence in the entire film was completely benign. Brad Pitt could only do so much with that character and most of it was superficial. On another note I do think Wall-E deserves a fighting chance outside of the animation category. Unfortunatley the acadmey's attitude towards animation is the same as it is to comedy, neither are considered as compelling as drama.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Shia needs to suck more Academy cock

    by MattmanReturns

    It's not about how many cocks you suck, it's about WHO you suck off.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:43 p.m. CST

    drewlicious, I completely agree

    by BigTuna

    Benjamin Button had no personality and life in the film. He's such a dull character. That's the big problem I had. Pitt was good, but imo, not good enough for an Oscar nom.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:43 p.m. CST

    I think what you people don't get about Ben Button

    by Reckoner

    having no personality is this: The guy was born an old man, and feels like an outsider. He becomes an introvert because of this. Not being accepted, but basically being raised with love. Thus, he is a quiet, introspective person. He's not supposed to have a grand personality.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:45 p.m. CST

    MattmanReturns

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Its a combination between WHO and HOW GOOD. The Berg gets his dick sucked at least 5 times a week by random assistants looking for a promotion or actors looking for a gig. He's seen 'em all. Shia struck a chord with him because of his skills. Lets just say he doesn't shy away from the salt and vinegar taste of a 60 year old man's asshole. That smug, smart-ass loudmouth he's so good at playing, thats no act man. He is confident with the cock and not afraid to say so.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:45 p.m. CST

    FUCK THE ACADEMY I'M BOYCOTTING

    by bradsand

    you know I used to have Oscar parties and make a big deal about the Academy Awards, but the past few years I've stopped and this year I'm just not even going to give them the time of fucking day, (yeah I'm pissed Nolan and Dark Knight got snubbed- THE READER- WTF!!!!??????) BOYCOTT THE OSCARS BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:46 p.m. CST

    Shia....if you're reading this. O.D. SOON!!

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:48 p.m. CST

    Being an introvert doesn't mean you have to be lifeless

    by BigTuna

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:51 p.m. CST

    Thank god this site wasnt around in 89

    by Six Demon Bag

    you guys wouldve rode Miss Daisy HArd

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:53 p.m. CST

    I know, Dickblood was just sarcastic, but I think...

    by DerLanghaarige

    ...that a Stunt Oscar would be a great idea. Stuntpeople risk their life pretty much every day and stunt coordinators have a shitload of work to do, to make any kind of stunt look impressive. Doesn't matter if it's in a comedy, your typical brain-out actioner or a oscar baiting war epic. But all they got is that awards ceremony that is sponsored by Red Bull. So yes, an Oscar category for Best Stunt Work would be cool.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Ben Button wasn't supposed to be the life of the party..

    by Six Demon Bag

    in every scene with people "his own age" (in NY) hes an outsider. hes comfortable in the old age home and on the boat and with people older than him (Tilda) and with Cate

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Downey Jr's nomination is the only bold one

    by IndyCollector

    It's a good one though.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:56 p.m. CST

    Best Cocksucker Oscar

    by MattmanReturns

    Danny has me convinced that Shia would win...

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:56 p.m. CST

    I was pretty moved by Button's journey

    by lioner

    His character has to deal with quite a bit, and has a strange, interesting life. The power of the movie, to me, is seeing an inexperienced young man experience the world, fall in love for the first time, get drunk etc, with the exterior of a well traveled old man. And on the other side, seeing a 20 year old who is actually a 65 year old man with all of these experiences. Pitt plays it wonderfully. I dunno. There is a strange, uncanny emotional thread running through that film that is very distinctive to Fincher, and not Gumpian in the least. And also, I would like to add, not in the least "Oscar bait." It seems to me that everyone on here hates the movie, and I think i'd just like to say it's worth another look. I'm going to check out TDK again this weekend to see if I just misjudged it as superficial and awkwardly constructed and plotted. I might have been wrong. Button's worth another look in my opinion.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:56 p.m. CST

    Ben Button

    by Reckoner

    Being looked at as a freak would make anyone feel lifeless and completely alone. And by the time he ages to be more normal, he still has the introverted personality that he grew up with b/c of feeling alien. Daisy gives him a spark, but I thought the script did a good job of keeping him calm and somewhat introspective because that's who he is deep inside. Basically, they made him have a bland personality because they were being true to the character.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:58 p.m. CST

    How Can I be moved by Benjamin BUtton's journey..

    by BigTuna

    When I saw it already in Forrest Gump?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 2:58 p.m. CST

    DerLanghaarige -- I'm not kidding.....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    .....I think it is appropriate for them to have a BEST STUNTS. Not like one single stunt but for the stunt-team on the film with the best overall physical stunts of the year. Why not? They are on screen performers doing things that are just as amazing as any visual effects nerd. They need to be acknowledge as well. There are some stunt people that have been pushing for this for years.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3 p.m. CST

    That's why Ron Howard kissed Obama ass

    by Reno

    Ron Howard has never been politically active before, like many of his peers have been. But, when Ron Howard had a movie about evil NIXON coming out, it was time to kiss a bunch of Hollywood Dem ass. For the publicity, but ESPECIALLY for awards season. The noms are his reward. The people affiliated with Batman obviously didn't kiss enough Obama ass.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3 p.m. CST

    Shia realizes its all about the suction.....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    ...and if you're going to use your hand while you blow-- please go with the same rhythm of the head bob. Nothing worse than two clashing motions tugging your dick in different directions.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3 p.m. CST

    Oh, okay.

    by DerLanghaarige

    The Jason Statham-comment made it sound sarcastic. :) But yes, I 100% agree about the stunt Oscar.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:01 p.m. CST

    waitingimpatientlyforingloriousb astards

    by PTSDPete

    Yes. " No Country for Old Men "/ " There Will Be Blood " - greatest films since Apocalypse Now.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:02 p.m. CST

    article from 2005 on Stunt Oscar

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Frank Pierson, the academy's president, announced last week that its board of governors rejected a proposal to create a new Oscar category to honor stunt performers. As the academy is ''more focused on reduction than addition," Pierson said, ''the board is simply not prepared to institute any new awards categories." <p> Such logic didn't stop the academy from adding a best animated feature film category in 2000. Still, anyone who has slogged through one of those interminable Oscar telecasts wouldn't mind seeing the ceremonies trimmed to, perhaps, a maximum of three hours, and even that's pushing it. Yet it would make more sense to eliminate such fat as the usually dull musical numbers -- c'mon, people, did this year's show really need Beyonce performing three of the five nominated songs? -- than to continue to deny recognition to men and women creating some of the most indelible moments in film history.<p> Filmmakers and actors, including Martin Scorsese, Robert De Niro, Jerry Bruckheimer, and Steven Spielberg, supported the proposal submitted by several stunt performers' organizations for a best stunt coordinator category. A statement on the Stunts Unlimited website, representing stuntmen, coordinators, and action directors, laments stunt performers going ''unnoticed and unrewarded" by the academy. And there's also the hard-to-argue contention that stuntmen and stuntwomen ''are the only faction of the movie industry that must literally risk their lives for the sake of their art."<p> Those who are willing to leap from buildings, be set on fire, or maneuver careering cars through traffic during a high-speed chase -- and do so to make some much-better-compensated famous face look good -- deserve more than a shrug from the academy.<p> It's summer, the time when filmmakers are more concerned with spectacle than intellectually salient and serious movies, and thus the high season for stunt performers. Even with the prevalence of CGI -- computer-generated imagery -- some of the best stunts are still performed by actual people. And for all the wonders of CGI, more often than not it can make movies look like the video games they will eventually become.<p> In 1960, ''Ben-Hur" swept the Academy Awards, winning 11 Oscars, including best picture, best actor (Charlton Heston), and best director (William Wyler). Yet what most people remember about this biblical epic is the dramatic chariot race between Heston's Judah Ben-Hur and his friend-turned-rival Messala, played by Stephen Boyd. Of course, we see Heston and Boyd only in close-ups, while their stunt doubles do all the real work, which was plotted and choreographed for two years by legendary stuntman Yakima Canutt.<p> Yet while the film received an award for best special effects, neither Canutt nor his stunt teams received any academy recognition for what remains one of the greatest action scenes in motion picture history. (Canutt was given a special citation in 1960 for his direction of the chariot race by the National Board of Review; in 1966, he received an honorary Oscar for ''achievements as a stuntman and for developing safety devices to protect stuntmen everywhere.")<p> Nearly 50 years later, the academy is still deluding itself into believing that stunt people aren't a vital, necessary part of the film community. At next year's ceremony, count just how many fantastic stunts -- whether it's the white-knuckle car chase from ''The French Connection" or Steve McQueen's iconic motorcycle jump in ''The Great Escape," actually performed by stuntman Bud Ekins -- are included in all those lengthy hooray-for-Hollywood montages.<p> When it comes to self-congratulations, Hollywood understands just how important those amazing scenes are, yet when it's time to honor the people who plan and execute them, the academy is unwilling to acknowledge their irreplaceable contributions. If, as the Academy Awards like to trumpet every year, their much-ballyhooed night is about celebrating the creativity, the spirit, and especially the magic of the movie industry, then it's time for adequate and respectful recognition for some of their most unheralded magicians.<p>

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:02 p.m. CST

    Gump is totally different from Button tone wise

    by Six Demon Bag

    whereas Gump took the saccharine and sappy way to overdramatise every scene, Button never reaches that point...just when you fear the cliches are coming Fincher restrains himself from manipulating the audience. Still haven't found a flaw yet? C'mon guys, you've been bitchin all day and have come up with nuthin!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:03 p.m. CST

    OMG WHERE'S MAMMA MIA!?

    by Mattyboy122

    I, LIKE, CAN'T BELIEVE MAMMA MIA DIDN'T GET A NOD! IT MADE ALMOST $600 MILLION AT THE BOX OFFICE! THAT'S QUALITY! OHMAGAWD! Jesus H... All you people frothing at the mouth over TDK need to take a look in the mirror. Which isn't to say TDK is a bad movie, but get real. A film's box office is in no way an indication of its quality. Slumdog is a fantastic flick and it's great to see Danny Boyle FINALLY get some recognition.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:05 p.m. CST

    Reno

    by PTSDPete

    But Obama is a fan of the Batman. If it were up to him, ' The Reader ' would fucking GO TO HELL !!!!!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:05 p.m. CST

    Bale in Public Enemies

    by Black Jack iii

    After being on set for a few shoots and after reading a few prelim reports from screenings (this site's included), I can say that Bale isnt going to be what all the buzz is about in that movie. You'll see. And white he didnt single handedly ruin TDK's chances at a best pic nom, I can pretty much safely assume that his performance didnt help to get one. At all. That being said, Marion Cotillard is jaw-droppingly gorgeous in person.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:07 p.m. CST

    Spielberg snubbed for KOTCS.

    by cinemixtape.com

    A damn shame...

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:08 p.m. CST

    Also

    by Mattyboy122

    Kate Winslet's shameless quest for an Oscar is really terrible. First of all, she is an average actress most of the time (I'm always aware of her acting, and it's not because she's pulling some Brechtian shit or anything). And Benjamin Button may be one of the most well-made films of the year, but there is a lot wrong with it. It never gets its own logic right, it introduces the clockmaker only to have him disappear completely and be only tangentially related to the story, the movie spends 2 hours of its run time with Benjamin up to the age of 40, then 30 minutes for the rest of his life, etc. Without the reverse age gimmick, Benjamin Button wouldn't be talked about at all. Blanchett was good in it, though.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Yeah, it's a shame. I hope they add Stunt Oscars in 2010

    by DerLanghaarige

    Stuntpeople ARE the unsung heroes of Hollywood. In a perfect world, stunt coordinators AND performers would be named in the opening credits, between the FX supervisor and the guy who did the Make Up, and not just buried somewhere in the end credits. And THEY should get the 20 Millions per movie and not the actors. <br> I wanted to be stuntman as a kid, but it turned out that I'm way too scared to jump off high buildings and through windows.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:09 p.m. CST

    I LOVE the Academy!!!!

    by standundermyumbrella

    FUCK the dark Knight!!!!!!!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:10 p.m. CST

    Best Original Screenplay

    by Oomlot

    All I can say is: Wall-E, um what screenplay, it only had 5 spoken lines. it would have read like: retarded robot looks at garbage, things blow up, people chase it, aww it fell in love, hey check out all the fat people, lol, oh look, there was always grass, the end.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Kid Idioteque

    by Reckoner

    Nice name. I saw them in Atlanta this summer and they played both Kid A and Idioteque... Great show. Spielberg needs to get his ass in gear and quit making popcorn crap. Go back to stuff like Munich, Private Ryan, etc...

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Mattyboy122 -- you mean Blanchett?

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Black Jack iii-In regards to Public Enemies

    by Samuel Fulmer

    What are you refereing to as being "buzz" worthy. Is it on the directing or acting end?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Funny to read people downplaying Roth...

    by BigTuna

    ripping-off his own Gump screenplay. Fuck the "It's a different tone" bullshit! It's the same goaddamn movie. Why don't they get it over with and call the drunken seacaptain Lt. Dan.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:15 p.m. CST

    Mattyboy122

    by hst666

    Nobody is saying Slumdog or Danny Boyle should not have been nominated (maybe someone has, but I am not going to read every talkback comment). I think most are pissed about Benjamin Button or the Reader being nominated over Dark Knight, neither of which is as good.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:16 p.m. CST

    Ben Button

    by Reckoner

    In the director's cut, Ben Button says "She smelled like cigarettes" to the boat captain, referring to the prostitute in town.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:17 p.m. CST

    I thought INDY IV was robbed by The Razzies....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    ...because it wasn't nominated for Worst Picture of the Year. But then I found out its getting a special honor!! <P> WORST PREQUEL, REMAKE, RIP-OFF OR SEQUEL: <P>INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Samuel

    by Black Jack iii

    Directing and acting both...I shouldve been more specific. The film will be amazing; but Bale will still be..well Bale. His character isnt developed and he doesnt put much into the scenes that he does have. Very cardboard. Depp, however, is amazing. Not that he ever isnt.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Bad year for great films

    by Coma Baby

    at least compared to last year. I saw a fair amount of movies this year but hardly any of the top reviewed ones (like these best pic nominees) seemed really interesting to me - just sort of middle brow. None of these movies really wanted to challenge anyone - well maybe the reader but I haven't seen it.. If Benjamin Button wins best picture it will be remembered much like forest gump - a sentimental mistake. What makes it eerie, if it wins, is how closely the film was modeled after Gump. It was a nice enough night at the movies, but after, I had to pry it's hands off my pant-leg. I only saw three of the five documentary nominations (man on wire, werner herzog on ice, and trouble the water) but all three were better than Benjamin Button. Why don't they just rename best picture "best narrative picture"? Dark Knight was good and suspenseful, with some interesting plot turns and a great performance by Ledger, but somehow Bale and Nolan made batman bland and uninteresting. Didn't seem like a best picture to me but I think it'd fit right in with this bunch.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:21 p.m. CST

    This talkback is hilarious!

    by The_joker

    I've never seen so many movie nerds outraged that their favorite film didn't get nominated. It's not like any of you have a serious stake in the film. If you were like, "I busted my ass all day long as a key grip on The Dark Knight, and we didn't even get a best picture nomination?! Aw hell no!" Then maybe I could sympathize with you, but whether TDK got a nomination or not wouldn't have any affect on me at all. I guess the Oscars are like The Superbowl for movie geeks, and today is the day you found out that your favorite team got eliminated from the playoffs. Too funny.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:25 p.m. CST

    It's jewish folk that got "The Reader" all those noms.

    by GQtaste

    Jews run hooywood so you guys shouldn't be surprized.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:25 p.m. CST

    THE RAZZIES

    by Reckoner

    The Love Guru will sweep the Razzies: Worst Picture Worst Actor, Mike Myers Worst Supporting Actor, Verne Troyer Worst Supporting Actress, Jessica Alba Worst Screenplay, Mike Myers

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:27 p.m. CST

    Thanks Black Jack iii

    by Samuel Fulmer

    I really like Michael Mann and feel that his films this decade have been okay, but I'm more impressed with his 90's output. I'm hoping that Public Enemies can stand beside Last of the Mohicans, Heat, and the Insider.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:27 p.m. CST

    Reckoner -- i think you're right.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:27 p.m. CST

    Best Animated Feature pretty much killed any chance

    by IndyCollector

    Of an animated movie to ever be nominated again for Best Picture. Enjoy your place in history Beauty and the Beast.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:28 p.m. CST

    Coma

    by Black Jack iii

    Obviously Shawshank was the winner that year, or even Pulp arguably, but any one of those three would (I hope) landslide any other year in which they were nominated on their own. (Think Shawshank THIS year). Man, that was the year of Ed Wood!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:28 p.m. CST

    The Oscars are a sham anyway...

    by A for Aristocrat

    Its all politics and bleeding heart bullshit. Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie, and Sean Penn will always be nominated because they are such "good" people. They let Ledger get nominated because they felt sorry for him. They nominate films that support their world view. And yes the actors and movies on this list deserved to get nominated but so did Nolan and Eastwood and a dozen other people and movies. The Oscars arent relevant anymore...they are basically for Hollywood to feel good about themselves nothing else.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:29 p.m. CST

    Ah, the irony

    by Garbageman33

    I love that the guy scolding everyone for getting too attached to The Dark Knight has the username The_joker.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:29 p.m. CST

    The Dark Knight stays 'cool'

    by Dr Gregory House

    by NOT being nominated. I mean, who is really shocked by this? F the Academy! Period pieces and gayness...

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:29 p.m. CST

    Miami Vice = DA' BOMB

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:29 p.m. CST

    But will Myers show up for the Razzies?

    by tonagan

    Or is he too sensitive?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Yes, Yes, Mr. Sherman. Everything Stinks.

    by Larry of Arabia

    Look, just because your favorite film didn't get nominated doesn't mean that you should hate on the films that were. Slumdog has a legitimate shot at becoming a classic. Milk hits all the bio grace notes but rises above them to become something special, and is very much a movie of it's times. It's a race between Slumdog and Button, and I hope the latter wasn't able to pull the "epic" card, because it's just not moving enough.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Yeah, I love Michael Mann, too

    by Reckoner

    But I was wondering what the hell he was doing attached to Hancock. He almost directed it, but let his protege (Berg) do the honor. Thank God... Is Hancock nominated for a Razzie? If not, it needs to be.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:34 p.m. CST

    No "let the right one in" for best foreign pic?

    by knowthyself

    Dammit.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:35 p.m. CST

    Don't forget to add an hour to the Oscar telecast

    by IndyCollector

    For all of the Obama ball licking that will occur. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a honorary Oscar.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:36 p.m. CST

    Lovecraftian

    by kwisatzhaderach

    I think Gladiator was much better than The Dark Knight. I was emotionally involved in the story. It's not perfect, and it is Braveheart in Rome as you say. But as a piece of filmmaking it is much better than The Dark Knight, mainly because Ridley Scott is a much more talented artist than Christopher Nolan. The Dark Knight to me was like somebody trying to copy a Michael Mann film. It was flat and uninvolving. I know the comic book fans are happy because the subject matter is being taken seriously but that does not make it a great piece of cinema.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:36 p.m. CST

    TDK snub..due to politics?

    by knowthyself

    You think Batman's "do anything to stop a terrorist" approach turned Hollywood away from nominating it for best pic? I mean it pretty much defended Bush's policy of breaking civil laws for the common good. Their was no other way to stop The Joker.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Reckoner

    by kwisatzhaderach

    I love Mann too, what the hell is he doing having Berg hanging around. I'm dreading his version of my life story, Dune.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:37 p.m. CST

    He's too sensitive. He wouldn't go.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    I think he takes his career very seriously and he wants to succeed once again. He just doesn't know how.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Samuel

    by Black Jack iii

    I sat behind Spinotti and watched Depp come out of the Biograph over and over again for about three hours to get probably 6 or 7 minutes worth of film (picture the Jennifer Connelly shot in Requiem with the camera mounted to her chest as she leaves the "party" - same style and look, but much smoother). To say Mann is a perfectionist would be an understatement, so his inconsistency will always baffle me.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:38 p.m. CST

    knowthyself

    by kwisatzhaderach

    I think the snub is more to do with it not being a great film myself.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Oh and Miami Vice sucked a fat fucking ass

    by IndyCollector

    From the guy who was the EXECUTIVE PRODUCER of the TV show, he couldn't even put the theme music in it let alone anything else resembling it other than the names Crockett and Tubbs.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:38 p.m. CST

    "absolute travesty" why?

    by curtis3martin

    My reading comprehension skills are slipping. Are the Best Pic noms a travesty because the Dark Knight wasn't included? Is that what we're to assume? You gotta be fuckin' kidding if you thought a Batman movie would get best pic. It was a really good comic book movie, but nothing more. It took interesting themes but still presented them in a simplistic comic book way--not Oscar stuff no matter how much dough it raked in. In other words, it was really good within the confines of the genre. And that's about it. I'd have had nothing really against DK getting a best pic nod, but it definitely would have made me laugh a bit. And it not being nominated is FAR from being an "absolute travesty." Jesus!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:39 p.m. CST

    Revolutionary Road

    by movieman742

    Still mad that it didn't get more noms. It was nice to see Shannon get one. He's becoming a very good supporting actor in the last several years. The Reader over Revolutionary Road is shit. I can't really say I'm disappointed in the academy considering it's been shit the last few years anyway. Oh well, at least I'll know Revolutionary Road was better than The Reader...and Slumdog Millionaire for that matter. Leo's best performance of his career isn't even recognized. It's a shame. I agree with someone else who mentioned SDM. It's gonna be one of those that in 5 years from now, everyone will go, "Um, wait, what did we do?!?!" LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL is a good example. Oh well.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Black Jack iii

    by kwisatzhaderach

    What inconsistency?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:41 p.m. CST

    kwisatz

    by Reckoner

    I think Berg is talented, he just needs to lend his talents to stuff like The Kingdom, not a steaming pile like Hancock. Yeah, Myers won't show up. He's a notorious egomaniac. He just hides it from the public.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:42 p.m. CST

    I forgot Spinotti was working on PE

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Great to see him back with Mann.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:42 p.m. CST

    DannyGlover

    by Mattyboy122

    Nah, I was talking about Winslet. I don't know how to create spaces for separate paragraphs, so I just went straight into my thoughts on Benjamin Button. I like Blanchett quite a lot.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:44 p.m. CST

    seriously, not a great set of noms fuck slumdog

    by IndyAbbey Jones

    while i don't think TDK would have won best picture, it defenetly deserved to get a nomination, as it was obviously one of the top 5 films of last year. <P>Nolan sure as hell deserved not only a best director nom, but the actual award itself, TDK is beautifully directed and shows a real skill<P>also, i'm gonna play devil's advocate here and say fuck slumdog Millionaire, in all my years on earth i have not seen a movie that i hated more then that over pretentious piece of shit, the fact that everyone is sucking this movies cock just pisses me off to no end<P>if it win best picture then hollywood is lost to me<P>also go Ledger, Glad to see Downy nominated, but it should have been for best actor and it should have been for iron man

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Black Jack iii

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    You see Mann freak out?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:45 p.m. CST

    I loved The Dark Knight but it wasn't some genre

    by IndyCollector

    changing or industry changing film. It was a sequel to Batman Begins. Sure Ledger is great in it but if he hadn't died the box office take would have been less. Plus it's the JOKER. Never underestimate the popularity of the Joker. If it had been the same movie with a different Batman villain who hadn't been used before (say Mr. Zsaz was upped from his brief cameo from Begins) it would have made less.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:46 p.m. CST

    Mattyboy122

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    space like this<p> < p > <p> but with no space between p and the >'s

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:46 p.m. CST

    WTF NO DARK KNIGHT !?!?!?!

    by quintana007

    Soon there will be a lot of basements free, i smell plenty fanboy suicides.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:47 p.m. CST

    I love Winslet.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    I don't know how anyone that has seen her work in Eternal Sunshine can say she's not a very good actor. She is fucking amazing in that film. Blanchett on the other hand always feels like she is really trying too hard. But they're both fine as fuck for what its worth.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:48 p.m. CST

    Let's have our own Best Picture contest

    by IndyCollector

    Among four blockbuster/populist films that WERE nominated for Best Picture and The Dark Knight. Pick the Best Picture winner: Jaws, Star Wars, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Ghost and The Dark Knight.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:48 p.m. CST

    kwisatzhaderach

    by Black Jack iii

    Manhunter - Great Last of the Mohicans - Amazing Heat - Amazing The Insider - Good Ali - Good Collateral - Good Miami Vice - Wtf?? Public Enemies - TBD ---- First three were sick...followed by average to above average films. It's disappointing, I guess, to see a guy do something amazing and follow it up with something less than that. Good news with Mann though, even his "less than that" is still better than 90% of Hollywood's average.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:49 p.m. CST

    "Stunt Oscar"

    by skimn

    There is the Taurus Award that has been around for about 5 years. It's been televised on Spike.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:51 p.m. CST

    The Keep

    by Samuel Fulmer

    So bad it's not even on DVD. Still I'd buy it for the excellent cinematography.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Ledger not a shoe-in

    by Coma Baby

    Michael Shannon was all kinds of awesome in Revolutionary Road - he almost stole the movie. I'd pick Ledger over him because he was just as good, if not better, and his role was more substantial (more of a co-lead, really). But I can definitely see the academy types picking Shannon.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:52 p.m. CST

    Indy Collector

    by skimn

    May sound cliche, but I'd have to choose the one that started it all (the pop culture super-blockbuster)..."Jaws". Still holds up beautifully all these years later.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:53 p.m. CST

    I'll say it now, Ledger isn't going to win

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Remember Eddie Murphy was also supposed to win for Dreamgirls, another movie that didn't get nominated for best picture (rightfully so, it was terrible).

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Mattyboy122

    by Six Demon Bag

    The film is not about the clockmaker..he made the clock which happens to tell time bacwards...which coincidentally is how Benjamin ages. If you have ever been around anybody on their deathbed, you would know that there are some tangent stories floating around. Daisy was sating this in passing, then started talking about Benjamin

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:57 p.m. CST

    What happened in the Best Picture category

    by Puddleglum

    Academy members fuckin dropped the ball

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:58 p.m. CST

    IndyCollector --- I GO WITH JAWS

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Shannon ain't going to win

    by Reckoner

    This is like the 2nd nomination out of like 30 that he's been nominated. Plus, he's a newcomer and we know how that is with the Academy. I'm sure he's great, but no. I would put my life savings on Ledger to win. Brolin will be a distant second...

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:59 p.m. CST

    For anyone doubting Mann's genius see Thief

    by Droid

    Fucking awesome flick. Caan is great in it.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:59 p.m. CST

    Myers success= Shrek 4 + 5

    by Six Demon Bag

    they wont't be critical successes but they'll make him money. he rocked in 54 tho.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:59 p.m. CST

    No KOTCS for Best Effects?

    by Puddleglum

    I mean, they actually made Indy look so almost mid-50's again instead of almost 70. Fuck Benjamin Buttass. That was some real movie magic. And, unfortunately, the only "magic" in that entire movie.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:59 p.m. CST

    I go with Raiders

    by IndyCollector

    Obviously based on my name. Raiders is the perfect movie. It blends so many genres successfully.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 3:59 p.m. CST

    IndyCollector

    by Reckoner

    I say Jaws also. I've seen it like 20 times.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:01 p.m. CST

    even though I despise KOTCS.....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    ....I am actually surprised its not nominated for effects or sound.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:02 p.m. CST

    If Ledger doesn't win

    by rhcp2sweet

    TDK fans can come over to my house and I'll have some nice cyanide spiked fruit punch for us all to drink.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:03 p.m. CST

    I still knew it.

    by UltimaRex

    TDK one of the best films of all time was never going to get best pic so why nominate it? The five other films (and the industry as a whole) needs the cash a TDK win would take away. TDK is still one of the best films of all time so I simply don't care.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:06 p.m. CST

    JOhn williams

    by Six Demon Bag

    its the 1st time he hasnt been nomd in a looooong time

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:06 p.m. CST

    IndyCollector - I'd have to pick Raiders

    by Puddleglum

    I just never get tired of that movie. The acting is great, the story is well written. The music incomparably kicks ass. <p> I really dig Jaws. It was one of the first DVDs I ever bought. I woudl even concede that on a per person basis, the acting is superior to Raiders. But the writing, in my opinion, isn't quite as good as Raiders and the music not as thoroughly engaging, though the geneal Jaws theme parts (beyond just the "Dah-dum! Dah-dum!" stuff) is damn good.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:07 p.m. CST

    Relief no TDK - but no Hellboy SFX?

    by elab49

    Glad the academy didn't fall for the fanboy hysteria on what is an occasionally excellent but overall muddled and overlong film with an unbalancing 'support' that doesn't really take off till the jail cell. But where the hell is Hellboy's SFX nomination? Couldn't the old geezers make it to that film as they tick boxed down the overrated Benjamin Button? As for Streep - did they mean to say Scott Thomas? Eddie Marsan was also robbed and is the only one of that lot that then would have deservedly beaten Ledger. Thank heavens Jenkins and Leo bring some common sense to the nominations outwith the cliched little clique that had built up.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:07 p.m. CST

    Six Demon Bag - Johnny Williams

    by Puddleglum

    Because the old man has lost it. I don't know what else he scored that came out in 2008, but Indy IV blew.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:08 p.m. CST

    I wonder what Vegas odds are on Ledger

    by Reckoner

    I'm not sure if Vegas still does Oscar betting, but they used to. If they do I bet they have Ledger at 1 to 5 odds, meaning that if you put $500 on him to win, you would win $100. I thought about betting on Helen Mirren for The Queen, but I wasn't in Vegas. That was easy money. She was a lock that year.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Ben Kingsley in The Wackness

    by Garbageman33

    Where's his fucking nomination?! You want to bitch about something, bitch about that. Also, Ralph Fiennes for In Bruges. The supporting actor category was stacked this year.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:13 p.m. CST

    Ledger is 1-10 on Paddypower.com

    by Droid

    A UK bookie.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:14 p.m. CST

    Eddie Murphy would've won

    by Garbageman33

    If he'd only had the good sense to overdose on prescription medication. Hollywood loves dead people. Or have you forgotten about the In Memoriam popularity contest they do every year?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:14 p.m. CST

    People who don't like Winslet

    by MattmanReturns

    can suck Sean Penn's cock. Sorry, I hadn't brought up Sean Penn in ten minutes...

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:16 p.m. CST

    garbageman33 & mattmanreams

    by Reckoner

    garbageman - that's pretty low. matt - nice one

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:17 p.m. CST

    Hey KOTCS is up for four Visual Effects Society awards

    by IndyCollector

    So eat it KOTCS haters. It even has one for Best Single Effect for, *gasp*, the "Valley Destruction." http://tinyurl.com/9289ue

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:17 p.m. CST

    Put next month's mortgage on Ledger!!!

    by Reckoner

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:19 p.m. CST

    Hollywood does love dead people and

    by IndyCollector

    rapists

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Didn't someone once suggest that we (or Harry)

    by skimn

    put together our own Oscars, but with nominations similar to the MTV Awards? Like best gunfight..Best catchphrase..Best representation of an animal in CGI...Most creative use of profanity...

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:27 p.m. CST

    John Williams hasn't lost it.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Its just the stench of Indy IV is so foul it can even destroy the most talented people in cinema. Seriously....how the fuck do you make the Raiders March sound shitty?!! It never once sounded cool because the visuals accompanying the tune looked like dogshit. Poor Johnny. Its okay-- he'll rebound with Lincoln.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:29 p.m. CST

    Harry. I've said it before and i'll say it again

    by Mr_X

    Get your fucking act together and create a proper voting system on-line on your website and let your readership vote for the Ain't it cool news "Oscars"

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:32 p.m. CST

    ron howard is the most overrated filmmaker of all time.

    by oceanic86

    without a budget and a good screenplay, he wouldn't be shit. also, frank langella's "nixon voice-face" is laughably distracting.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:33 p.m. CST

    John Williams has sucked the final big one artistically

    by Kizeesh

    His Obama worship piece was rotten. The introitus was stolen wholesale from HALO for christ sakes and the rest was a plaguerised lift from Lord of the Dance.<p> Bad AIDS john.....Bad AIDS.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:38 p.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS - it's a testament to how shitty KOTCS was

    by Puddleglum

    it was so bad, it ruined everything else he did in 2008. Good theory. though, I really don't think Williams' compositions are as novel or exciting as they were 10+ years ago.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:40 p.m. CST

    BTW, why is anyone still here & not on HITFIX.com???

    by Puddleglum

    The power of McWeeny compels you! <p> The power of McWeeny compels you! <p> The power of McWeeny compels you! <p> The power of McWeeny compels you! <p>

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Fuck up the Oscars

    by karma_god

    Wouldn't it be great if thousands of TDK fans showed up and protested outside the red carpet and the ceremony. After all, it's we comic nerds that have kept Hollywood afloat for the last decade, with one comic book film after another. It's time to push for a little payback. I haven't watched this shit in a decade, and I won't now.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:41 p.m. CST

    John Williams

    by MattmanReturns

    The Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban score is amazing.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:48 p.m. CST

    Harry won't get his act together

    by IndyCollector

    Where's his DVD column that he said he was "working" on during the inauguration? He'll have some lame excuse prefacing the column like he always does to make it sound like it's the first time it's ever been late, "Hey folks, Harry here. Sorry the column is late but it's been a hectic week this week. Since Obama got sworn in I haven't been able to stop masturbating. I'm sure you understand. Yoko is threatening to leave me if I don't get a film career going soon so I've been busy calling some chums to see if they can help a fatty out. Anyway, the links go to Amazon like always. I've even included some shitty movies I don't recommend but buy them anyway." Only with more grammatical errors.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:54 p.m. CST

    People who say "Button" is "Forest Gump 2"

    by Mr. Profit

    Are just repeating the bullshit they read on a message board. The movie is in no way similar to "Forest Gump". Just because we see the life Button has traveled, doesn't make it similar. Button did not go through several decades and alter American history with his actions. It was a simple story about a man who was born old and alone. He grows up acting like an old man, therefore he doesn't have some oversized personality. The music is subtle and memorable. And while Brad didn't bring it (I agree that Leo deserved a nod more) the movie wasn't shit. People on AICN give it hell because it's a 2 and a half hour movie that is about a romance. Its funny to see people bitch about it or discredit it then complain TDK deserved every award in history. TDK was a great film, but really, not being nominated isn't going to make Nolan or Bale or WB cry a river. They are all still filthy rich. And at least "Heathus" was nominated (and will win).

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:57 p.m. CST

    Johnny Williams

    by Six Demon Bag

    both Catch Me if You Can and Terminal are good in my opinion, as well as HP3, Indy 4 score isnt as good as the others, but c'mon those are high standards

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 4:59 p.m. CST

    Of course Benjamin Button isn't like Forrest Gump

    by IndyCollector

    Forrest Gump. Slow, yes. Retarded, maybe. Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off Nixon and won a ping-pong competition. That ain't retarded.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:04 p.m. CST

    AND THE WINNER IS, SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE...

    by Orionsangels

    Just announced it already. God dang it the Oscar's are boring and predictable!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:11 p.m. CST

    Benjamin Button haters---explain yourself

    by Six Demon Bag

    when you talk shit you have to back it up

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:12 p.m. CST

    HB2 shouldve been nominated for fx

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:18 p.m. CST

    WTF!!! No, My Bloody Valentine 3D ?!?!?!

    by The Dum Guy

    I had an iota of hope for TDK getting a nom for best pic, but I sorta figured this would happen...

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:19 p.m. CST

    I was bored watching Benjamin Button.

    by TooWhippy

    Cate Blanchett was miscast... terrible.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:19 p.m. CST

    the reason DK got snubbed for a best pic nom...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    ... is the same reason that i have no interest in seeing slumdog millionaire - the academy members had DK pushed in their faces and were told that they have to nominate it, theyd be nuts not to - like ive had slumdog pushed in my face every time i read a paper or watch tv or go online being told i have to see this, its the best movie ever - i will never see it - i have no interest whatsoever in seeing it - a movie whos central plot device is a tv show that i cant stand - no thanks - my sentiments are mirrored by academy members that have an aversion to batman or superhero movies - just a theory - as great as DK is, its still just a batman movie to a whole lot of people

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:21 p.m. CST

    the curious case of a writer shoe horning...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    ... a new story into an old screenplay - forrest gump

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:22 p.m. CST

    Academy loves Fantasy, hates Comic movies?

    by Rindain

    I just don't understand how the Academy could nominate all 3 Lord of the Rings movies, but snub The Dark Knight. Before the LOTR noms, people thought fantasy films could never be taken seriously by the Academy. So why not honor a film (TDK) that did for comic book movies what LOTR did for fantasy?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:23 p.m. CST

    WALL-E - "Down to Earth"

    by Series7

    SOOOOO SOOOO deserves to win. Thank god that Wrestler/Streets of Philadelphia/Dead Man Walking Song didn't get a nom.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:24 p.m. CST

    TooWhippy

    by Six Demon Bag

    IM SORRY if the film was too serious for you...how was blanchett miscast...she's perfect as is Brad Pitt. who would you had?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:24 p.m. CST

    The Baader Meinhof Complex

    by TheNorthlander

    Great, great film. Hope it wins.<br> The Class was good, but not worthy of oscar nomination.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:24 p.m. CST

    TooWhippy

    by Six Demon Bag

    IM SORRY if the film was too serious for you...how was blanchett miscast...she's perfect as is Brad Pitt. who would you had?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:24 p.m. CST

    PROOF BUTTON IS GUMP2!!!!

    by Thanos0145

    Enjoy!!! http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/1d76506803/the-curious-case-of-forrest-gump-from-fgump44

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:24 p.m. CST

    Six Demon Bag - i have no interest in seeing it

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    so i cant say that i hate it - i can safely say from what ive seen and read of it, it would bore me - just the trailers alone bore me

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:26 p.m. CST

    Wall-E

    by Series7

    Is going to walk away with the most Oscars.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:27 p.m. CST

    JimmyJoe RedSky

    by Six Demon Bag

    sorry...you probably complain too that Frank Darabont jsut makes Stephen King Prison flicks..what Eric Roth was adapted faithfully..the stories of two mens' lives...get over yourself

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:27 p.m. CST

    TDK needed to end with a Bollywood musical number.

    by Pennsy

    THAT's the ticket this year to Oscar glory. *roll eyes*

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:28 p.m. CST

    JimmyJoe RedSky

    by Six Demon Bag

    i'm done with you

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:28 p.m. CST

    Mr. Profit is right and Brad Pitt for best actor?

    by tbransonlives

    You are 100% right about the people calling it "Forest Gump 2." It was nothing like Gump at all, I'd call it the anti-Gump.<p> How did Pitt get nominated? He wasn't awful, it's just the character wasn't interesting only his situation. No way he wins anyway, Penn has it on lock.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:30 p.m. CST

    I think another reason TDK didn't get nominated

    by IndyCollector

    is because it's technically the sixth film and a sequel to a reboot that didn't get nominated either.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:32 p.m. CST

    the wrestler got snubbed for a best pic nom...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    ... because its about pro wrestling - if any movie deserved a best pic nom its the wrestler - if it was the same movie but about a washed up boxer, or football player it wouldve been nominated

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:32 p.m. CST

    IndyCollector

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    i agree - and its a batman movie

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:34 p.m. CST

    Six Demon Bag... you are done with me?

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    when did we ever start?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:34 p.m. CST

    Rindain

    by IndyCollector

    How does the Academy love fantasy? When Lord of the Rings was nominated everyone was saying how fantasy films DON'T get nominated. The Academy loved Lord of the Rings, not fantasy in general. And if anyone couldn't see that FOTR and TT were token nominations so ROTK could get the Best Picture award in order to reward the entire trilogy for being a successful adaptation of something believed to be unfilmable is a retard.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:36 p.m. CST

    the wrestler - all the pathos, romance and tragedy...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    ... of benjamin button - but in a tighter shorter package - and minus the syrup

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:39 p.m. CST

    I think the only way a comic book movie will be nominated

    by IndyCollector

    for Best Picture is if it isn't a mainstream super-hero movie. It would have to be an adaptation of something abstract like Watchmen (and don't tell me Watchmen is well-known. Go ask a non comic reader what Watchmen is. At best they'll say, "Oh it's a movie coming out soon.") or American Splendor.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:41 p.m. CST

    IndyCollector...

    by Rindain

    The Academy might not "love" fantasy as I said in my title, but on the other hand, they did honor a fantasy trilogy. Before Fellowship's nom, everyone considered fantasy to be anathema to the academy. Arguably, TDK is the current pinnacle of comic book films the same way that the LOTR trilogy represented a pinnacle in fantasy filmmaking. So why honor the LOTR trilogy, but not TDK, which "legitimized" comic book movies in the same way that LOTR did for fantasy?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:41 p.m. CST

    Six Demon Bag

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    i love frank darabonts stephen king prison flicks - get over your own self - can you think of any movie that you havent seen but have no interest in seeing? - fill in the blank - i like fincher - i like pitt - i even liked the short story the movie was based on - but if im not interested in seeing this version of that story - maybe ill rent it

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:45 p.m. CST

    Ever occur to you that TDK was a middling movie?

    by BurnHollywood

    Heather Ledger's incredible performance aside, natch...and if he doesn't win, I'll happily commiserate.<p> It seems that the Academy was just as unimpressed with the cornball ferry resolution as yours truly. Good.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:45 p.m. CST

    IndyCollector is right, but...

    by waggy

    not far enough. Even something like Watchmen or Sandman would be too comic booky for the Academy. You would need something like Ghost World or History of Violence, where 90% of people have no idea it's based on a comic.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:46 p.m. CST

    Rindain - Why does TDK get the acclaim for legitimizing comic bo

    by IndyCollector

    I think Superman: The Movie gets that honor. Or at least Spider-Man if you have to go with something more recent. TDK is a great BATMAN movie. It's was proven that comic book films can be good AND successful a long time ago.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:50 p.m. CST

    IndyCollector - if DK didnt get it, watchmen wont

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    watchmen is darker and rated r - its the anti superhero movie - it should be considered (even having not seen it, im assuming its great) but it will be overlooked - also, superhero movies are a staple now - people are sick of them no matter how great some are (DK, HB2, IRONMAN)

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:50 p.m. CST

    Typical boring Oscar bait films.

    by Dingbatty

    That, and the always incestous Animated Feature Film threeway between Disney/Pixar and Dreamworks.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:50 p.m. CST

    Why should the Academy care about TV ratings?

    by Flim Springfield

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:51 p.m. CST

    JimmyJoe RedSky

    by Six Demon Bag

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:51 p.m. CST

    JimmyJoe RedSky

    by Six Demon Bag

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:51 p.m. CST

    Good point about The Wrestler

    by Garbageman33

    That affected me more than any other movie this year. By the end, I felt like I truly knew that character. Unlike Benjamin Button. By the end of that, all I knew about him was that he aged in reverse. And that he had some sort of weird hummingbird fixation.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:52 p.m. CST

    JimmyJoe RedSky

    by Six Demon Bag

    you know not what you speak of. did you not see the wrestler too? you Do know this is a movie site, right?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:54 p.m. CST

    BurnHollywood... the ferry solution is corny

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    maybe almost as corny as a movie about a kid that wins a game show in order to find a girl he has a crush on - or a love story about an old baby that grows up to be a sad brad pitt who goes on adventures all the while pining for the girl he let slip away

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:56 p.m. CST

    And the Oscar goes to....Irelevancy!

    by Yelnick McWaWa

    No Eastwood? No Dark Knight?! FUCK SEAN PENN and the fucking Milk, which will never be seen by me. Assholes. Rourke was good, the movies was meh; shitty camera work and mostly pointless scenes...Rourke was gold though...but Eastwood should have been thrown a bone..If Paul Newman could win for a shit movie like "Color of Money" why not give to Clint? I hate the Oscars!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:59 p.m. CST

    The deli scene in The Wrestler

    by Garbageman33

    That one scene tells you more about Mickey Rourke's character than two and a half hours of Benjamin Button tells you about Brad Pitt's.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 5:59 p.m. CST

    Six Demon Bag

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    huh? - yes - i saw the wrestler - i liked it a lot - but wow what a bummer - it felt very real - answering your question, yes - i know this is a movie sight - thats why im discussing movies and giving my opinion - which really seems to bug the shit out of you - you asked why so many hate BB - i answered that i dont hate it, but havent seen it and im not eager to - you then had a hissy and said you were "done with me" - go grow a pair - wait... ar you a chick?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6 p.m. CST

    Garbageman33... ecxactly - and it was all improv

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6 p.m. CST

    Enjoyed TDK, but it was riddled with

    by Dingbatty

    plot holes, and, hearkening back to the crap 90's Bat films, the protagonist Batman was shafted in screen time and character development. And, that suit -- horrible. Can't wait for this trilogy to finish, so we can ditch the realistic-esque milieu. Batman needs balance between the serious and the fantastic.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:01 p.m. CST

    and......

    by Yelnick McWaWa

    I don't see why the Dark Knight wasn't nominated, "Star Wars" and "Raiders", cut from the same mass-appeal cloth and instant classics like TDK, were both nominated in their years of release...it's snobbery of the worst kind, if you can't recognize a good film, no matter what genre it's in, you have no business voting and definitely no business making movies.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:01 p.m. CST

    And what is up with the song category?

    by IndyCollector

    I don't know if it's good or bad but the Oscar songs of recently years are basically songs no one hears outside of the film. Where are the Eye of the Tigers or The Power of Loves or the Disney songs redone by musicians for radio play or the Ghostbusters, etc.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:02 p.m. CST

    Six Demon Bag - Benjamin Button

    by DarthCorleone

    O.k. I'll tell you why I don't like Button. Bear in mind that I have no problems with the film technically; it's the narrative that I dislike.<br><br>1) The central conceit - our protagonist's aging backward - has virtually nothing to do with the story. Yes, his father abandons him because he looks different, but lots of children are abandoned for whatever reason. After that, what happens in Benjamin's life that is inherently linked in any way to his condition and its limiting nature? His emotional, mental, and psychological aging are all right on schedule. Yeah, he's raised in a nursing home, but no one gives him a second look. He leaves home at the age any normal person leaves home. He might get a second look and a little skepticism, but he gets a job (and even goes to war!) like any young man would. He even ends up back in the nursing home; how is that destination any different than how a normal person's life would go? Give me at least one interesting scene in which Benjamin is forced to try to fit in with those who look like him but it doesn't work because of his real age. (See more on this in point #2.) Hell, there's nothing even that unusual about having a tryst with the older Tilda Swinton's character at that age. Basically, I'm left with the message that aging backward doesn't make any difference; you're still the same on the inside. What uncanny insight!<br><br>2) The film completely lost me at the third act mark. Benjamin's decision to leave Daisy and his daughter is unsympathetic and bewildering. Daisy wouldn't be "raising" him; he has an adult mind. And as she says, we all end up in diapers. Benjamin had at least another 20 good years he could have spent with his daughter without drawing serious scrutiny. Even when appearances become tricky, make up a story and tell your daughter her dad is special and that she needs to be discreet. No character has ostracized Benjamin to that point; why does he suddenly feel like he can't lead a normal life with his condition? He's been pining for this woman his entire life, and they are deeply in love. She wants to try, but - purely because the screenplay is written as it is - he must leave. MAYBE they could have convinced me this was a credible decision, if there had been a single scene in the film supporting it! Hell, have him become a true selfish jerk and suddenly embrace the shallow opportunities his young body affords him. Give me something to work with. <br><br>3) I just didn't enjoy the frame story. It took me all of two minutes to guess that she was their daughter, and then I wait two hours to discover it, as if it's some sort of major revelation. Additionally, this is a minor quibble, but I found it slightly distancing to have Daisy be the central figure in the frame story, when she really doesn't have much to do with Benjamin's story prior to their finally getting together aside from playing the role of always-out-of-reach love interest.<br><br>I guess that about covers it. Just one guy's opinion.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:02 p.m. CST

    Yelnick McWaWa - he won 2 oscars for directing

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:04 p.m. CST

    DarthCorleone - now im definitely skipping it

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:04 p.m. CST

    Also, Six Demon Bag...

    by DarthCorleone

    ...great username. At least we can agree on that.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:05 p.m. CST

    Yelnick

    by IndyCollector

    Star Wars and Raiders were movies that hadn't been done before. Sure there were both homages to serials but done in a way that was still original. What is original about TDK? The Joker? He's been portrayed before. Definitely better in TDK but not the first time.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:06 p.m. CST

    Yelnick McWaWa - it is snobbery - its "the academy"

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:06 p.m. CST

    I know!

    by Yelnick McWaWa

    Eastwood needs one for his acting, the guy's retiring, throw him a freakin bone and some respect! Besides, who the fuck is Richard Jenkins? And fuck everything associated with "Revolutionary Road!" Could Winslet be the worst female character---ever? damn babykiller.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:08 p.m. CST

    So, TDK didn't get nominated.

    by otm shank

    When "Dances With Wolves" beats out "Goodfellas", and "Forrest Gump" beats out "Pulp Fiction" who gives two flying turds what the academy thinks.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:08 p.m. CST

    ROTK won because of the political climate at the time

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    plus it was a great movie

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:10 p.m. CST

    OTM Shank

    by IndyCollector

    To add to that, what about Rocky beating All the President's Men and Taxi Driver? I love Rocky but that's a tough call there.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:14 p.m. CST

    I got nothing.

    by Yelnick McWaWa

    Sure they were original, but why would that matter? Remakes have won Best Picture Oscars in the past so I must call BS on that. "The Dark Knight" is no different from the LOTR trilogy and if those miserable little turd hobbits can win, give it to the Batman! At least he likes girls. :) I trust no one who doesn't like "The Dark Knight."

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:15 p.m. CST

    The central conceit in Benjamin Button

    by Garbageman33

    Would've worked much better if there was something, anything, else to it. Take Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, for example. That was a story about the end of a relationship. It showed you how they fell in love. And why the relationship ultimately failed. The brainwashing thing was only one aspect of a very rich story. Benjamin Button could've worked the same way. A love story in which the main character aging backwards almost becomes an afterthought. But the love story couldn't stand on its own. Not even close. In fact, I'd ask Six Demon Bag why Benjamin and Daisy were together in the first place. And no, "fate" is not a good enough answer.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:15 p.m. CST

    What remakes have won Best Picture Oscars?

    by IndyCollector

    I'm drawing a blank.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:16 p.m. CST

    GO WERNER HERZOG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by Sithlord_999

    Ich bin der Zorn Gottes!!!!!!!!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:17 p.m. CST

    JimmyJoe RedSky

    by Six Demon Bag

    the reason why im done with you ( and any others) is that you shat on a film (and its writer) without having seen it. granted you can read reviews all you want and make snap judgments about lesser films that are potentially wastes of time (any generic horror film out right now or those fill-in-the-blank movies) but don't rush to judge this film...Presently, BB is without hype and pretention. I rarely see films numerous times in the theater, yet this one keeps drawing me back (3x) and I keep getting more and more enjoyment out of it. Just don't rush, i hate that shit..i asked every TB hater to explain themselves and the best was Gump 2..they oviously haven't seen Button

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:18 p.m. CST

    No reason to watch...except

    by Yelnick McWaWa

    It looks like now the only reason to watch will be for Sean Penn to make the usual ass of himself in a speech about making love to his favorite Dictator and how evil America, the country that provided him with all his wealth and position to speak out, is and how great Obama will be....Zzzzzzz. On second thought, I hope there is Twilight Zone marathon on instead.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:19 p.m. CST

    YELNICK MCWAWA

    by PenguinSlide

    Thanks for the spoiler, Dickweed. Seriously. Who gets off on ruining movies for other people? There is a special level of hell for those who spoil films because they think it's cool or something. They share that level with the drivers who don't understand merge lanes. Seriously McWaNa... have some BLEEP'n courtesy. You're among other movie lovers. And if you're not a movie lovers then why are you here?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:22 p.m. CST

    If you're gonna say

    by MattmanReturns

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:23 p.m. CST

    Garbageman33

    by Six Demon Bag

    Daisy and Ben loved each other from the first time they met, at least in Bens eyes. BTW, you can take Eternal and view it as the start OR end of a relationship...it elliptical, which makes it cool...Kaufman is a genius

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:26 p.m. CST

    by Yelnick McWaWa

    Remakes that won were- Ben-Hur, The Departed, not as many as I thought, but still remake status is irelevant. Network should have won in 76. Taxi Driver, too dark, but damn brilliant also. Christ! Give it to them both!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:26 p.m. CST

    Costume????

    by Series7

    Hugh Jackman shirtless??? Is that was flies for a Best Costume these days? He doesn't even do steroids. Sly and Arnold must be pissed.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:27 p.m. CST

    "Nooo, my Batman VI wasn't nominated!"

    by JackPumpkinhead

    It's hilarious that some are actually surprised by that.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:30 p.m. CST

    TDK was robbed

    by barnaby jones

    Its embarassing how wrong they get it year in year out.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:31 p.m. CST

    I haven't watched the Oscars in the past several years

    by IndyCollector

    I follow Harry's "blog" but that's about it. I just like knowing who wins and you can find that out on the Internet. I don't care about who's wearing what, stupid song and dance numbers, long and boring speeches from people I've never heard of thanking people I've never heard of, unfunny bits and repartee, political commentary that has nothing to do with the awards (Jim Carrey's "Viva El Salvador!" was the best spoof that though)

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:31 p.m. CST

    Sorry.

    by Yelnick McWaWa

    Had no intention of ruining anything, but really I'm saving you two hours so don't worry about it. The movie is Lifetime of the Week crybaby shit. This is what the Nominations would look like if Ben Lyons was in charge...

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:32 p.m. CST

    Sithlord_999

    by Series7

    Hell yeah what ever that means. I love Herzog. Man on Wire was over rated critical masturbation.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:32 p.m. CST

    filthy critic explains the academy's worth

    by Prossor

    http://www.bigempire.com/filthy/fucktheacademy.html enjoy!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:32 p.m. CST

    DarthC

    by Six Demon Bag

    thank you for an intelligent response...i assume you've seen it. The framing device is an afterthought, just another way to cannect to the audience..for all you people complaining that Ben had no personality. You could connect with someone. With Caroline being his daughter, it could've gone either way in my opinion. The WHOLE point of the film is the aging process---otherwise it would've been told straightup! Ben is constantly being treated as something other than his age..and judged as well. When he's "old", they treat him as such, not knowing the truth. When he's in NY or taking Daisy to dinner, people are seeing that she is with not someone of her own age, but a 50 yr old. As his mother says, "We are all goin the same way, you're just taking a differnet path" Lastly, him leaving his family so he wouldn't be a burden was handled properly. Ben knowing how the world has treated him thus far, knew that it was for the best. It wouldn't be prudent anf fair for a 80 yr old taking care of and sleeping with a teenager going through senility. Goos thorough argument though...nice name too

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:33 p.m. CST

    You're right JackPumpkinhead

    by IndyCollector

    The magic number is three. Godfather III was nominated and Return of the King was nominated. However, Batman Forever missed it.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:37 p.m. CST

    My take is this...

    by Bartleby T. Scrivener

    Although it would have been nice to have seen Dark Knight nominated, it wasn't. That won't take away the fact that the film is great. It's not like the film's legacy is going to be lost because it never won Best Picture. Just do what I plan to do on Academy Night: Turn off the lights, pop in the Dark Knight Blu-Ray (or DVD), and experience it one more time.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:37 p.m. CST

    Six Demon Bag

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    i dont need to see death race, bride wars, sex and the city, saw 7, my bloody valentine, or 4 christmases to know whether ill like them or not - i know what i need to know going in - ill admit, BB looks great - great production values, fx, costumes and set design - im just into what its about - ill tell you what, send me 12 bucks and ill go see it then write an objective unbiased review and email it to you - otherwise, climb off my sack already

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:38 p.m. CST

    Is Rocky the Best Picture winner with the most sequels?

    by IndyCollector

    I'm guessing so. Not many Best Picture WINNERS have sequels. The Godfather is the only other winner I can think of with sequels. Return of the King doesn't count because it didn't have a sequel. Plenty of NOMINEES have sequels though.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:41 p.m. CST

    JimmyJoe RedSky

    by Six Demon Bag

    Yes any intelligent person knows bride wars is shite..but can you honestly compare the 2? We're talking creme of the crop here! I wouldn't presume to talk shit about Slumdog Millionaire (yet) without seeing it..There's a big fucking difference. Form your own opinion and not just regurgitate soundbites like "GUMP 2". that's petty.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:42 p.m. CST

    DarthC

    by celebritydave

    im with you.. and the guy that just called it "lackluster". oh yeah, Daisy was a cunt of a thing.. treated him like shit in NY. im glad he left her.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:43 p.m. CST

    JackPumpkinhead - really? - why?

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    ROTK won best picture - it was the 3rd installment of a trilogy (heavily dependent on the first 2) - a 3 hour fantasy epic - wall to wall digital fx - over the top acting - were you surprised it won? - i sure was - but i also felt it deserved it - as i do TDK - aaron ekhart shouldve gotten a nom too

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:43 p.m. CST

    Silence of the Lambs - Hannibal

    by Garbageman33

    That's another best picture winner with a sequel (or two, if you count that Ratner abortion "Red Dragon").

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:45 p.m. CST

    typo above - im just "not" into what its a bout

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    that flub changed my whole arguement

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:45 p.m. CST

    Benjamin Buttons isn't like Forest Gump? WATCH THIS!

    by Orionsangels

    http://tinyurl.com/9alfm3

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:46 p.m. CST

    Thanks Garbageman

    by IndyCollector

    Hmm. Red Dragon is a prequel, as is Hannibal Rising, but without the success of Lambs those two films wouldn't have been made so they probably have to count.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:47 p.m. CST

    One more

    by Yelnick McWaWa

    Duh, Silence of the Lambs!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:49 p.m. CST

    Six Demon Bag

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    the point is - there are defenders of movies such as bride wars etc - their opinion and taste is as valid as mine or yours - im just not into the subject matter - even if its executed brilliantly (as with BB)

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:49 p.m. CST

    I rarely watch the Oscars anyway

    by DDMAN26

    And I don't see that changing this year either.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:54 p.m. CST

    and screw slumdog millionaire too

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    ive been to india - its no rainbow pastel colored urban fantasy land (at least not where i was) - the magic lens of danny boyle - india, one of the few countries where throwing acid in a womans face (for suspected cheating) is tolerated - on my trip i had to wade through a knee high river of shit to get from point a to point b - fuck it - and fuck "who wants to be a millionaire"

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:56 p.m. CST

    by Yelnick McWaWa

    Eddie was robbed, but he deserves it for making shit movies and refusing to be funny anymore. 6 yes I was surprised ROTK won which is why I'm just as surprised TDK wasn't nominated...makes no sense.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 6:58 p.m. CST

    JimmyJoe RedSky is correct!

    by Yelnick McWaWa

    Good God, India..what a shithole. They are a third world country for a reason- they choose to be.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:01 p.m. CST

    Penn is going home empty-handed

    by caruso_stalker217

    You never go full gay.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:03 p.m. CST

    KurtLockwood - rumored?

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    she/he fell to her/his death "climbing into a window" - hmmm - lets just say its a good thing for eddie he/she died - eddie is doing well and making family aimed comedies - tranny hookers dot fit in that picture

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:06 p.m. CST

    india has skyscrapers and nuclear power...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    but cant still solve their "shit river" problem

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:06 p.m. CST

    Garbageman33

    by Series7

    Silence of the Lambs was a Sequel. Manhunter is the original Red Dragon. Brain Cox turn down the role Hopkins got because he didn't want to get type casted, he very shortly realized his mistake.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:08 p.m. CST

    JimmyJoe RedSky

    by Series7

    Have you seen Slumdog? The main character actually wades through a knee high river of shit to get from point a to point b? I don't see how its much different then your experience.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:13 p.m. CST

    Slumdog's India was no fantasy land.

    by Flim Springfield

    It's obvious who didn't see the movie.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:16 p.m. CST

    Eddie Murphy was robbed all right...

    by Puddleglum

    of a respectable career later in his life. <p> The only thing is that he seems to have willing given that away more than having been robbed of it: <p> Vampire in Brooklyn <p> Holy Man <p> Metro <p> Showtime <P> PLUTO NASH <p> Norbit <p> Daddy Day Crap 1 and 2 <P> Haunted Mansion <p> way to whore yourself out, Eddie. No wonder people didn't give a shit about Meet Dave.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:18 p.m. CST

    Eddie

    by Series7

    Didn't even give a shit about Meet Dave. He didn't even show up to the opening.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:18 p.m. CST

    Just looking at that listof movies above makes me ill

    by Puddleglum

    and, no, the fact that he did a shticky voice in three Shrek movies obviously doesn't make up for that list of pig shit up there.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:19 p.m. CST

    no Dark Knighty, no watchy

    by BMacSmith

    my interest in the Oscars just dropped to 0.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:20 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by Puddleglum

    Bwahahahaha! At least he's ware he's whoring himself out, even if it does impact his reputation.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:23 p.m. CST

    How the man

    by Series7

    Behind The Adventures of Pluto Nash was ever given the chance to to make Meet Dave will be one of the biggest mysteries. Its almost like they let Renny Harlin make Cutthroat Island 2.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:23 p.m. CST

    i wont be watching this year

    by karatekid17

    Just when the Academy had to chance to increase viewership they go and fuck it up again. The Dark Knight should have been recognized for Best Picture just for its Box Office alone ...And if they were ignoring that fact and going the artistic route, then The Wrestler should have been nominated along with Bruce Springsteen. Fuck off Academy...

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:24 p.m. CST

    Dark Knight as Best Picture was a pipedream, guys

    by Puddleglum

    Frankly, I'm surprised Ledger even got the Supporting Actor nom. Not because he wasn't fantastic in the role, just because it's the kind of movie that typically gets snubbed for all the major acting categories. I was amazed they ever recognized Depp as jack Sparrow. <p> Be happy Ledger has a shot at an Oscar. It was the best chance DK had for an Oscar nom among the major awards and they got it.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:25 p.m. CST

    the oscars should be like the hall of fame.

    by BMacSmith

    no voting on movies until they've been out five years. most of the winners are forgotten or ridiculed in favor of better movies that lost. Crash comes to mind.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:25 p.m. CST

    Series7

    by caruso_stalker217

    Brian Cox is too good for that Lector shit anyway.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:27 p.m. CST

    Jesus Christ, Series7! What what you're saying!

    by Puddleglum

    In a town that is willing to make continuouslt crappy Eddie Murphy movies, a feature length Tom & Jerry movie, Brendan Frasier goes to the Center of the Earth in 3-D, and a fucking MONOPOLY MOVIE, we need not be giving them any more piss poor ideas!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:27 p.m. CST

    if they can say Gladiator and Titanic were best pictures,...

    by BMacSmith

    TDK could have gotten nominated. its not really a pipe dream to get a big budget movie in there.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:30 p.m. CST

    BMacSmith - heard that argument before and kinda like it

    by Puddleglum

    Way too much kneejerk reaction to films that don't hold up only a few years later, or on repeated viewings. <P> But, then, the Oscars are really a reflection of the time in which they are awarded and 5-6 years later, sentiments may have changed alot since the time when the movie opened. I guess it depends on the criteria you judge the film/actors/wririntg/music/etc by. By the "here and now" context, or the context in which they will hold beyond when the movie first comes out and is "novel".

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:31 p.m. CST

    Yeah

    by Series7

    But at least those ideas will make money. Eddie Murphy and sci-fi comedy does not make money.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:33 p.m. CST

    Pirates 2

    by Series7

    Wasn't nominated for best picture and it made TDK money.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:34 p.m. CST

    Let the Right One In = best picture of 2008

    by vaudeville villain

    screw the oscars... and sweden for its erroneous submission of whatever-the-fuck in its place.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:36 p.m. CST

    BMacSmith

    by Six Demon Bag

    some people cant get over the fact that its about Batman..if you replace every character with someone wearing carsets and victorian apparel, it would've been a shoo-in. it's like a modern day Othello. As someone posted before, you cant win them all...the fact it wasnt nominated will not diminish the fact tht it is a great film. At least we wont have to double dip DVD or Blu Ray with a new spec feature hyping the Oscar noms

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:37 p.m. CST

    Dear God, I WISH Ben Button was like Forrest Gump..

    by Negator76

    ...If it was more like Forrest Gump, it might have been cheesy, contrived, ham-handed but eventful and entertaining. Instead of cheesy, ham-handed, contrived, incoherent and brutally dull. It gets my vote for worst movie of the decade. I don't think 'Dark Knight' was the best movie of the year by any means. But it deserves the nomination over Fincher's smelly mess. Fuck, 'The Incredible Hulk' was better than 'Button'. At least when I came out of 'Hulk' I felt like I wasted an afternoon on a goofy indulgence, instead of robbed of years of my life.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:37 p.m. CST

    No, but Titanic and Gladiator we not the same kinf of film

    by Puddleglum

    They came out with a reputation and full intent of being Oscar bait. Just more action oriented (more so for Gladiator). They also weren't based on a comic book, which is going to hold back a Batman film in the eyes of much of the Academy. It's not about it being a "big budget" film as much as it is the public perception of what these filsm are expected to be when released. I don't disagree that DK is a great example of film exceeding that kind of expectation. It's exactly the kind of film in the comic book/superhero sub-genre of action films that should have gotten a Best Pic nom and start breaking that perception that films like DK don't get best Pic noms. But, such is life....

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Slumdog the favorite for best pic, but Milk has a chance.

    by cinemixtape.com

    I loved both, but aside from bitching about what WASN'T nominated, I sort of hope Milk wins. The politics were overbearing, but it's a great film. Other than Diego Luna's really creepy, unlikable character (possibly just because the performance was that bad) and one of the kids from High School Musical (if I'm not mistaken), I really enjoyed it. Although Slumdog is undeniably great. I can definitely see Boyle for best director and Milk for best picture. As much as it hurts that the Wresler didn't get nominated for best pic, and as lame as Ben Button was, the biggest crime in the last few years was the complete fucking snub of Zodiac. That was a travesty.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:44 p.m. CST

    i wonder if bale's 'growl' is to blame for the snub?

    by vaudeville villain

    maybe the voters found it too over the top?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:46 p.m. CST

    JackPumpkinhead

    by MattmanReturns

    Yeah I'm pretty surprised that the best film I saw last year (and judging by box office, critical reaction, and word of mouth, most of America agrees with me) wasn't nominated. I don't think you're actually shocked by this reaction though, I think you're just being an elitist jackass hoping for a "GASP! I can't believe you called it Batman VI!!!". Nothing you say is going to undermine the film. Ask ten people on the street what the best film they saw in 2008 was and I think you know what 9 out of 10 are gonna say. I'm sure that pisses you off because you apparently didn't like the film, but it doesn't change the fact that the majority of the world did.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:46 p.m. CST

    Negator76

    by Six Demon Bag

    you're the reason Michael Bay still makes movies...jackass. Don't go see Frost/Nixon, you might learn something..

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:46 p.m. CST

    I can't believe The Wrestler didn't get a nod for BP

    by Cruel_Kingdom

    That was my favorite film this year, far and away. What a beautiful, touching, realistic, well-acted little film.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:48 p.m. CST

    favorite does not mean best

    by Six Demon Bag

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:48 p.m. CST

    Best doesn't always mean BEST

    by Six Demon Bag

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:48 p.m. CST

    You know the Wrestler

    by Series7

    Not getting movie or director hopefully means Darrin will keep trying to make crazy films.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 7:56 p.m. CST

    I agree that 'Zodiac' was a great film...

    by Negator76

    But Ben Button made me want to dropkick a baby. BENJAMIN BUTTON IS BAD FOR AMERICA

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:07 p.m. CST

    Six Demon Bag...

    by DarthCorleone

    I'd hardly call the frame story an "afterthought." It begins and ends the film, it has the great Julia Ormond in a major role, it makes a point of playing on our emotions related to Hurricane Katrina, and there's no way that father-daughter revelation is not intended to have emotional resonance.<br><br>Yes, what you are saying about how others treat him is what the movie should have shown us, but it absolutely did not show us that - at least not in any adverse manner that would have scarred Benjamin. If I'm supposed to take it at face value that very subtle age discrimination drives him to leave his wife and daughter, that's just not enough for me.<br><br>For that matter, the guy was rich. He, Daisy, and the daughter could have lived life in privacy on their terms with relatively few problems. Make Daisy the adult executor of their estate when Benjamin becomes too "young" to be an adult and leave anyone that might question them to mind his or her own business.<br><br>Doesn't the idea of Benjamin trying to fit in at high school as a wise old man sound intriguing? What if some social worker stuck the "seven-year-old" Benjamin in elementary school, and he was forced to interact with the other kids? The twilight of his life - when an old man who appears young might interact with those new to the world - is when it should have gotten the most interesting, and they glaze over it completely. How lonely would it be to never truly feel like you can fit in with your peers simply because you appear different? And yet, we never have any concept of this loneliness. Benjamin makes friends, has numerous lovers, and has romantic travels. Or show us the positive side. Show us what it would be like to truly take advantage of having the wisdom of knowing better and the body to take advantage of that knowledge. (That's along the lines of the age-old plight that you never have the time and money to travel until you're too old to fully enjoy it. There's a bit of this with his trip to India, but why would I care at that point when he just left his wife and child for no good reason?) Those are just a few examples of what I mean by their ignoring the central conceit. Perhaps those examples belong in a different film, but if they belong in a different film, why am I watching a movie about a character who ages backward?<br><br>The only character who has any consistent truthful window into Benjamin is Daisy, and she always treats him like the age that he is. She's his touchstone, and he throws her away. I simply don't dig it.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:09 p.m. CST

    Six Demon Bag--

    by Negator76

    Your Michael Bay comment just reveals how prejudiced you are against people whose taste in films diverges from yours. I've probably seen more Tarkovsky, Kubrick, Kobayashi, Malick, Ashby, Frankenheimer, Fellini and Renoir films than you've seen trailers. And I still say 'Incredible Hulk' is a far finer film than 'Benjamin Button'. It's stupid, marginally competent junk food, but at least it does what it says on the tin. Unlike 'Button', which is a sleeping pill wrapped in a melted snickers bar that's pretending to be foie gras. I would have rather been stuck in airport security for three hours than sat through that dull, pretentious slog. I used to love Cate Blanchett. Now I want to beat her to death with a sock full of pennies ($10 worth of pennies, the price of the movie ticket.. poetic, huh?) THAT MOVIE SUCKED

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:12 p.m. CST

    I'm Dying To See LET THE RIGHT ONE IN

    by LaserPants

    Sadly, I just missed it at the local art-house before it slipped away. :-( Prbly comin' to dvd soonish?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:13 p.m. CST

    DarthCorleone...

    by Negator76

    ...speaks the truth. I am absolutely baffled as to how many professional critics gave that turd a pass. Embarrassing.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:15 p.m. CST

    THE DARK KNIGHT Should Have At Least Been Nominated

    by LaserPants

    Maybe not win, but it should have gotten a nomination at least. If friggin' swill like Titanic can fucking win Best Picture? You gotta be kidding me. Shit, by that yardstick, TDK should not only have been nominated, but swept the whole awards.<br><br> On the brightside, tho, I suppose Ledger is a lock for Best Supporting Actor.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:23 p.m. CST

    Grow A Pair Academy!

    by CellarDweller

    Truly a bunch of pussies not nominating The Dark Knight for Best Pic or Director. They played it safe and predictable. 13 nominations for Benjamin's Belly Button? Yawn. Cowards! This was a chance to step up to the plate and recognize a genre film that broke the mold. A "comic book" movie that blew all the others that have come before it away, set a new standard for those kinds of movies and stands on it's on as one kick-ass, crime drama equal to or better than a movie such as Heat. You royally fucked up Oscar ("the grouch.") I'm sure they're patting themselves on the back for nominating Heath. While he more than deserves it for what IS truly the best performance in that category, they probably just did it as a "pity" nomination and didn't want to deal with people booing during the ceremony b/c he wasn't nominated. I have no interest in watching the Awards this year after today's disheartening news.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:24 p.m. CST

    loserguy3000...re: Hitfix...

    by DarthCorleone

    That's a good question. I assumed I received that email only because I had emailed Drew personally a couple times (without response, incidentally), but I guess it was AICN data that provided the list. Regardless, I didn't really mind it.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 8:47 p.m. CST

    by Yelnick McWaWa

    And no one will ever be able to tell me "Titanic" is a better film than The Dark Knight! The porno title of 2009 is, "The Curious Case of Benjarmen's Butthole."

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:09 p.m. CST

    Total F***ing Destruction!!! No Dark Knight?! I call on

    by Dogmatic

    all geeks to march upon the Hollywood Shrine Auditorium and burn that shit to the ground come Oscar night! This is just ridiculous. I mean...the Oscars are even due to nominate a huge populace pic...they do every 3 years. Braveheart in 95 Titanic in 98 Gladiator in 2000 Return of the King in 03...dropped the ball with a huge populace pic in 06 and 07....they were due! Dark Knight isn't good enough?! What the crap?!?! Burn that shit down!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:09 p.m. CST

    maestro610 re: what was better

    by necgray

    Slumdog Millionaire. Wall*E. The Wrestler. Let the Right One In. Teeth. The Visitor. The Fall. Burn After Reading. Synechdoche New York. I haven't seen Doubt, Revolutionary Road, or Milk, all of which have really great reviews. Personally, I preferred Iron Man to The Dark Knight, but that's not necessarily a matter of it being "better", I just liked the tone more AND felt that while it didn't reach for the same heights as TDK, it also didn't suffer from a sense of self-importance like TDK.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:09 p.m. CST

    They DID grow a pair and ignored the popular choice.

    by Flim Springfield

    Popularity does not equal artistic merit.<br> <br> Also- Heat didn't get nominated either, so it's probably not the best comparison.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:12 p.m. CST

    CellarDweller: blown away? really?

    by necgray

    Superman: The Movie was blown away by TDK? Spiderman? Fuck, I'd say Darkman was at least as good as TDK.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:15 p.m. CST

    No it doesn't mean the best...

    by Orionsangels

    It just means the movie is now part of special club and will have notoriety for all time.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:24 p.m. CST

    Oscars = Marketing Gimmick

    by YackBacker

    Guys, relax. The Oscars are a lie unto themselves. There is no real criteria at work here- it's about ego and popularity. I yawn at the Oscars. I have more fun watching porno. A lot more fun, in fact.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:34 p.m. CST

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

    by GeorgieBoy

    No Dark Knight for Best Picture! Finally, justice!<br><br> WALL-E was the best movie of the year. At least it'll be able to claim it got the Best Animated. TDK gets bupkis!!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:44 p.m. CST

    I'm still baffeled by Slumdog Millionaire

    by blindambition238

    I liked it just fine, but wasn't very impressed with it... It seemed like a well made version of older films. <p> Also I'm really disappointed and surprised by the best pic snubs for Wrestler and Wall-E.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:48 p.m. CST

    laser pants, l.t.r.o.i is headed to dvd march 10th..

    by jig98

    haven't seen it yet, but heard it was the best vampire movie ever. which is just unexplainable.

  • And the Academy chose to ignore it (TDK). The two are not mutually exclusive. In this case, they co-existed in the same movie.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:49 p.m. CST

    Chris Nolan movies are empty experiences...

    by Chishu_Ryu

    ...dressed up in pretty cinematic "gimmicks." If you take away the "gimmick" of MEMENTO being a movie that unfolds backwards like an ignorant American reading a Japanese manga, the movie has nothing really going for it. If you take away the "gimmick" of DARK KNIGHT being a realistic gritty BATMAN movie, that film really has nothing going for it either. What, are we supposed to be intrigued by the human drama that unfolds between Rachel, Bruce, and Harvey? First, you have to ask, what human drama? DARK KNIGHT was all about The Joker being The Joker. That was the gimmick, and that does not deserve it a Best Picture nom. Sorry.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:55 p.m. CST

    Mickey's gotta win!!!

    by budolite

    He knocked it out the park with his performance! If there is a god, gods or just Elvis watching over us, please, grant Mickey his just reward so we can all drink happily ever after!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 9:57 p.m. CST

    Oh the comedy!

    by yiannis

    Granted there are a few sane people on this talkback that actually know how the world works, but I'm honestly nearly splitting my sides laughing at the people bitching about the noms and saying "This movie or that movie was much better"<br><br>C'mon, fellas! When has quality EVER - EVER - been a criteria for Oscar voting?<br><br>Any user on this website could probably name one film for every year they've been alive that got a nomination it didn't deserve and probably half as many films that won when they didn't deserve it. Chances are, at least 70% of people would come up with pretty much the same lists.<br><br>Every year, you get the same predictable slew of "award friendly" movies released (at least in the US) between about September and December, as if the rest of the year doesn't matter. These films will always follow the same subject matter. Take your pick from true story/touchingly inspirational/classical literature/melodramatic tragedy. The winner is usually the one that combines all four.<br><br>As for some people hailing Ricky Gervais as some kind of prophet for his "Holocaust movie" quip in Extras?<br><br>He's not.<br><br>He was just telling it like it is, like it was, like it's always been and like it always will be.<br><br>The fact he said it to Kate Winslet was not a coincidence either. Let's face it, you couldn't find a single person in Hollywood more deserving of being labelled "awards whore" (unless their surname was Weinstein). Who else would he pick to say that to? The fact she agreed to appear in it speaks volumes about the fact that she knows EXACTLY what she's doing and doesn't care who else knows. The fact that she then actually went and MADE a fucking Holocaust movie goes to show just how cynical, shallow and empty the bitch really is!.<br><br>The Oscars are the movie equivalent of a beauty pageant. The qualities that make a winner in either are pre-determined by the judges and the actual winner is simply the entrant who best matches those pre-determined qualities. If you offer something even slightly different, it doesn't matter how good a film/beautiful a girl you are, YOU WILL LOSE!!<br><br>There are only three types of people that will EVER care about the Oscars:<br><br>The people who've already won one and are greedy for more<br><br>The people who haven't won one and who are so spiritually empty and soulless that their lives are meaningless without one<br><br>The wonderfully naive people out there who STILL believe, despite over 60 years of evidence to the contrary, that the Oscars somehow represent an objective, meaningful appraisal of the quality of cinema in any given year<br><br>Fuck the Oscars!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10 p.m. CST

    Good reviews don't necessarily equal artistic merit either.

    by Flim Springfield

    Iron Man was a great movie with great reviews as well. Do I think it should be nominated Best Picture? Heck no. It was a popcorn movie made to sell toys (not that there's anything wrong with that.) The problem is people mistake The Dark Knight's "darkness" for depth. It was a popcorn movie, too.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:02 p.m. CST

    Gump 2

    by ThePilgrim

    The Curious Case of Benjamin Button= Gump The Remakining. No seriously watch Gump again! BB is a soapy fucking mirror reflecting a run down muffled TV set with Gump playing on it! <P> Frost/Nixon= Was better on TV, Generation's forget, and it becomes powerful again. When's the OJ/Goldman film coming out 10 more years from now?? Powerwise it's Certainly no Apollo 13. <P> Milk- Harvey Milk didn't have an effeminate gay lisp. Also, Why aren't Gay roles being played by gay actors? Pretending to be gay shouldn't be an easy oscar win for anyone. <P> The Reader- Holocaust flick. Fucking admit it! <P> Slumdog Millionaire- A Hollywood made Bollywood flick. Haven't seen it so I can't say good or bad. Y Nom these unoriginal "let's recap and rewatch history" "do a film based on a book that was reworked into a film called Forrest Gump first, and then remade again into the film about the same book, by the same fucking writer!"<P> You Nom These Fuckers and you don't nom The Wrestler or The Dark Knight. FUCK YOU OSCARS!!!!!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:09 p.m. CST

    I hope Rouke brings a flask of his own piss in with him

    by ThePilgrim

    If he wins he can dump it on the oscar. If he loses he can dump it on the oscar and the winner. Brando would be proud!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:12 p.m. CST

    Wished Jenny Lewis' Bolt Song Had Received A Nom...

    by mjgtexas

    If only to view the finest red head not named Chrisitna Hendricks shake her nice pale ass in circa 1979 Roller Derby hot shorts.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:17 p.m. CST

    WATCHMEN = Oscar's best picture 2010!

    by Orionsangels

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:18 p.m. CST

    A theory taking hold on why The Reader hit the jackpot today.

    by Pennsy

    It was nominated IN SPITE of the douchebag prick who produced it. There were reports that Weinstein went at it hammer and tong with Sydney Pollack, to the point where they were arguing on the latter's *death bed*. There was such tremendous heat between Weinstein and the Pollack family that they banned him from speaking to any of them. <p> From what I was told, three reasons why the Reader scored so much today: <p> 1) For the film itself<p> 2) To honor Pollack and Minghella's memories<p> 3) A sympathy vote for Scott Rudin (?), Daldry and the rest of the cast and crew. <p> Take that for what it's worth. It doesn't justify TDK's ouster, but mebbe this explains things moreso than before.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:25 p.m. CST

    Maybe jugfuls of Winslet nudity helped as well.

    by Flim Springfield

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 10:52 p.m. CST

    BUT WILL DARREN ARONOFSKY'S MIDDLE FINGER MAKE ANOTHER APPEARANC

    by BringingSexyBack

    This time because Springsteen was shunned?

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:01 p.m. CST

    Where they got it wrong!!!

    by Jobafet

    The three biggest mistakes the Academy made this year are the Dark Knight not being nominated for best picture and best director, and Sally Hawkins not being nominated for Happy Go Lucky. I don’t understand how these nominations could be over looked. It is just a travesty. In the case of the Dark Knight I’m not even saying it should win those awards but it damn sure should have been recognized, but Sally Hawkins easily gave the best performance by a lead actress this year and should have not only been nominated but she should be receiving the award. Now I didn’t hate The Reader but it should not have replaced the Dark Knight for those nominations. I feel the same way about Angelina Jolie in Changeling she was good not great and she has Sally Hawkins nomination just because she’s Angelina Jolie. Another nomination that is just missing altogether is Bruce Springsteen for “The Wrestler”. I don’t understand how they only gave three nominations in this category this year but Springsteen should have been nominated.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:03 p.m. CST

    "Im Not Wearin Hockey Pads"!

    by GravyAkira

    Hey, Saving Private Ryan didnt win either. The Dark Knight got screwed big-time, but its legacy will live on without an Oscar for best picture. I am the biggest David Fincher fan in the world, and Benjamin Button was a great film. But I know what the best picture of the year was. "Harvey Harvey Harvey Dent". Give Heath his due Academy!

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:14 p.m. CST

    Another year

    by methosb

    My favourite movie never gets nommed: The Wrestler this year, Jesse James last year, The Fountain the year before that, The Constant Gardener that year before that. It is just perpetual snubbidge for me so I never really give a shit who ends up winning. So, meh. I think all of those had the best soundtrack of the year and weren't even nommed either.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:19 p.m. CST

    Chishu_Ryu: Nolan's Whole Career Has Been One Big Prestige!!!

    by Media Messiah

    I have seen 3 of his films, 2 Batman films, The Prestige, and part of a 4th, that being his first film, and they have all left me cold. This guy has built a career off of building a real life Prestige, by pulling the wool over our eyes, or at leats some, all designed to fool everyone into think that he is a director and writer, and he is neither. The guy is really a camera tech, and that is it.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:33 p.m. CST

    Flim Springfield... they grew a tiny pair

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    and nominated the obvious choices - the studios' "prestige" movies - the "oscar best picture nomination" movies - lame - besides TDK, "Synecdoche, New York" and "The Wrestler" shoulda been nominated for best picture

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:34 p.m. CST

    and why no fx nom for "Cloverfield"?

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    i hated the movie - but its fx were great

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:37 p.m. CST

    Series7... excellent

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    but then the focus shifts to him winning a game show in order to get the attention of a very hot young girl - im bored just typing this

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:41 p.m. CST

    Flim Springfield

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    the marketing behind the movie does not paint it as grim at all - but very bright and colorful full of zeitgeist editing and feel good moments of movie triumph - im falling asleep

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:43 p.m. CST

    i just watched TDK for the 2nd time on blu ray...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    it shoulda been nominated - popular entertainment at its best

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:51 p.m. CST

    You Take TDK Out of TDK & It Gets Nominated

    by Stacy Without An E

    I had an amazing cinematic experience with TDK that as a film fan I will never truly forget. You take the Batman elements out of the film, but leave the soul of the film intact and you've got yourself an Academy Best Picture nominee. The fact that the Academy is so short-sighted will be referenced in the ratings. "Knight Rider" on a bad night will beat this.

  • Jan. 22, 2009, 11:53 p.m. CST

    JimmyJoe RedSky: And For A Second Time, You've Been...

    by Media Messiah

    ...robbed of 2 hours plus of your life.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, midnight CST

    Langella deserved that nomination 22 years ago....

    by mediamole

    For his role as Skeletor in 'Masters Of The Universe'

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 12:04 a.m. CST

    Clarification regarding TDK

    by CellarDweller

    Hell yeah TDK blows away Superman: The Movie, Spider-Man and especially Darkman; all movies I like by the way. However, they are very much just fun, popcorn, summer blockbusters. Typical, comic book movies without a lot of depth beneath their cool effects, spandex costumes, etc. TDK had cool action scenes, gadgets, etc. but it also dealt with weighty issues in an intelligent fashion that didn't talk down to it's audience or dumb down it's script to a third grade reading level. I wasn't suggesting that the film Heat should have been nominated for an Oscar back when it first came out. I only mentioned it b/c it clearly was an influence on the opening bank heist scene in TDK and is a crime drama as is the TDK (more than it is simply a "superhero" or "comic book" movie like The Incredible Hulk or Iron Man; not that there's anything wrong with those pics, but they don't really deserve Oscar nominations.) TDK got robbed plain and simple. It has flawless casting and performances, a complex/compelling screenplay that deals with issues not unlike those we're facing in our world today (i.e. wire-tapping, torture, terrorism, etc.) stunning cinematography, editing, music, costumes, the list goes on. All of it being "conducted" by the relatively young and brilliant Christopher Nolan who should have received a Best Director nomination. TDK was a popular movie with audiences and critics, but genre films such as "comic book" movies thus far have proven unpopular with the Academy with rare exceptions (Return of the King, Pan's Labyrinth.) "Popular"/safe choices for the Academy are period pieces, movies about the disabled, underdogs, movies that, for lack of a better phrase, "tug at the heart-strings/" Milk, Doubt, Benjamin Button, etc. are all obvious/safe choices. THAT is why I said, "grow a pair." Think outside the box Academy. This was an opportunity to nominate a comic book movie that is SO MUCH more. It will be a long time before another one comes along that will come close and have a shot at a potential Oscar. That's what sucks. And no, Watchmen, won't come close to the TDK. It might be visually stunning and faithful to the look of the book, but it is going to be the Cliff Notes version of that amazing, graphic novel. Do you think that Iron Man 2 will have a shot at being nominated for a Best Picture or Best Director Oscar? Hardly.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 12:05 a.m. CST

    "To All My Friends!!!!!"

    by IamZardoz

    Here's to Mickey; I hope you win brother, it was a great flick.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 12:06 a.m. CST

    JimmyJoe RedSky

    by Series7

    I don't think you've seen Slumdog.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 12:15 a.m. CST

    BENJAMIN BUTTHOLE = NIPPLES ON BATSUIT

    by J-Dizzle

    That movie was boredom, followed by more boredom, followed by zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 12:22 a.m. CST

    Take TDK out of TDK and you have a lame crime drama...

    by Chishu_Ryu

    ...with a villain who keeps explaining to everybody in the movie why he does what he does...

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 12:24 a.m. CST

    Series7: re: GO WERNER HERZOG!!!!!!!!!

    by Sithlord_999

    Just paraphrasing Klaus Kinski in Herzog's Classic AGUIRRE: WRATH OF GOD. "I am the Wrath of God". Glad to see Herzog fans on these Talkbacks. Cheers!

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 12:25 a.m. CST

    A travesty you say?

    by WhinyNegativeBitch

    And yet you side with Button, the film that least belongs on any years end best of list out of all those chosen. The Reader isn't fantastic, but its a lot beter than Button or Milk.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 12:40 a.m. CST

    I'm not a DK fanboy, I don't think its...

    by WhinyNegativeBitch

    ...The second coming or anything like that. However, it IS better than any of the other major nominees. A LOT fucking better in most cases. And yeah, they did fuck up by not recognising that fact, and instead electing to nominate safe, studio approved choices like Button, despite it being one of the worst major release films of the year. The Reader may be average, but at least its not BAD like Button. Oh well, expect the Oscars to start carrying about as much weight as the GG's in a couple years time.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 12:44 a.m. CST

    The Oscars are a joke.

    by Charlie_Allnut

    an over rated popularity contest, self aggrandizing, joke. If you look even back in the 30's many films considered brilliant were overlooked for lower quality films.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 12:49 a.m. CST

    Mr. Profit

    by WhinyNegativeBitch

    I suggest you actually watch Forrest Gump and Benjamin Button before claiming they bare no similarity to each other, because such a claim makes you sound like a fucking idiot.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 12:51 a.m. CST

    To my fellow AICN peeps...

    by MR. MURDOCH

    CellarDweller: TDK better than Superman: The Movie? BWAH HA HA HA I laugh like the Joker. Maybe you'll still be watching it as many times as Superman 20 years from now? I won't be. MediaMessiah: TDK WAS cold, just like ALL of Nolan's movies. VERN: YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD, MY FRIEND. And whoever coined the phrase "Oscar strap-on" gets a gold fucking medal from me, I think that should be the new AICN Talkback "Gordon has beer a cheats on his wife"!! (which is how I felt after seeing TDK, by the way...)

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 12:52 a.m. CST

    The Dark Knight..

    by Harold-Sherbort

    was a good movie. Is it oscar material? Probably not. Was Heath Ledgers performance worthy of recognition? Yes. He deserves the win.

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 12:55 a.m. CST

    IN BRUGES

    by MR. MURDOCH

    ...was more original and entertaining than almost anything on this "Oscar" list. And Kristen Scott-Thomas, Springsteen, DiCaprio, and probably Aronofsky were indeed ROBBED. Haven't considered these awards "important" -- or even watchable -- for years, consider them even *less* now...

  • Jan. 23, 2009, 12:59 a.m. CST

    Media Messiah

    by WhinyNegativeBitch

    Wow. Way to go on being a useless douche bag. Having seen Nolans two Batman films (name one superhero film that is better than either o