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Was It Earth??
Was Baltar Right??
And Why Her??
Mo Ryan Talks To Ron Moore
About Friday’s GALACTICA!!


I am – Hercules!!

Like many a great episode of a great series, “Sometimes A Great Notion” (named, it turns out, for one of my favorite novels) answers big questions and poses big new questions.

Many spoilers ahead if you haven’t seen Friday’s episode.

At the end of “Battlestar Galactica’s” third season a newly resurrected Starbuck told Apollo she found Earth. Then we zoomed way out to the edge of the galaxy and then back in on Earth. We could make out its familiar continents.

On the radioactive “Earth” the fleet just discovered we never see those continents beneath the cloud cover. Plus it was apparently populated exclusively by dirty Cylons. Plus Roslin was still alive when they found it. So are we still supposed to believe this is really Earth?

There’s a prequel series coming to SciFi called “Caprica,” which supposedly tells the tale of how Eric Stoltz “invented” the Cylons just 50 years before the holocaust depicted in the 2003 miniseries. So – excluding the possibility of time travel, doesn’t news of a 2,000-year-old Cylon Holocaust diminish somewhat Stoltz’ role in Cylon Genesis?

And what exactly went on between the two Cylon wars? The Stoltz-forged centurions only made seven models? Did the centurions tell the seven models about the final five? Who told the centurions?

Why is there no model seven?

If Kara Thrace isn’t a Cylon, what is she precisely? (Note that, before the cancellation of "Galactica 1980," plans were afoot to resurrect the Dirk Benedict Starbuck as a kind of celestrial superbeing.)

How is it the 13th tribe was comprised of a bunch of robots?

Why wasn’t a race capable of interstellar travel more careful about writing all this down somewhere? (With all due respect, the prophecies of Pithia sound like they were written by a rum-swilling hybrid.)

Chicago Tribune TV columnist Maureen Ryan has a terrific interview with “Galactica” mastermind Ronald D. Moore focusing on last night’s installment. He doesn’t answer the questions I pose above, but he does have answers. Of particular interest:

* On Tigh and Baltar’s theory that Cylons comprised the 13th tribe? “I think you can read that as fact,” Moore tells Ryan.

* When Ryan asks if this is the only Earth we’ll see, Moore doesn’t answer “yes” or “no.”

* He discloses when it was decided that Ellen Tigh would be revealed to be a Cylon. (Remember how everybody thought she was a Cylon when she was miraculously discovered among the fleet? It turns out even the writers didn’t know the real truth at the time.)

* Moore explains the concept of the “final five” emerged out of the decision to have Baltar living among the Cylons for a long stretch of episodes. (Remember that scene on New Caprica with the seven known models voting on how to deal with their captive humans? Weren’t we all wondering why the other five Cylon models weren’t getting a say? In fact, aren’t we still wondering?)

* Moore also confirms that the disappointing condition in which Earth is found precipitates Dualla’s suicide.

Find all of Ryan’s interview with Moore, plus illuminating essays on the episode by its writers, here.




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Good interview
by Etienne72772
Jan 17th, 2009
05:19:07 PM
I love "xoxo...Gossip Girl", the new 90210, and BSG!
by Boomers_Lips
Jan 17th, 2009
05:32:28 PM
Making it up as he goes along...
by Cash907
Jan 17th, 2009
05:35:02 PM
where are the 13th Tribes ships/space stations??
by Boomers_Lips
Jan 17th, 2009
05:41:22 PM
Perfection.
by NivekJ
Jan 17th, 2009
05:50:22 PM
Classic.
by TomHooligan
Jan 17th, 2009
05:54:03 PM
Cash907....Anti-whedon? seriously?
by Merlox
Jan 17th, 2009
05:57:48 PM
Just 9 more episodes
by Prometeo
Jan 17th, 2009
05:59:10 PM
EvilWizardGlick
by Falcon5768
Jan 17th, 2009
06:07:23 PM
It ain't Earth...
by jimmy rabbitte
Jan 17th, 2009
06:08:40 PM
Final Cylon Reveal
by Klytus_I.m_Bored
Jan 17th, 2009
06:17:28 PM
There kind of is a Cylon detector.
by Boomers_Lips
Jan 17th, 2009
06:23:08 PM
Just watched the new episode...
by turketron
Jan 17th, 2009
06:27:51 PM
EvilWizardGlick
by jimmy rabbitte
Jan 17th, 2009
06:38:21 PM
Dee: Box 1 of 5?
by Nerbil
Jan 17th, 2009
06:42:42 PM
Cash907
by RaveX
Jan 17th, 2009
06:42:49 PM
Tests
by kuryakin
Jan 17th, 2009
06:49:43 PM
called this on aintitcool in 2008
by altoandando
Jan 17th, 2009
06:50:14 PM
stated categorically
by kuryakin
Jan 17th, 2009
06:51:04 PM
Actually in the interview he was vague about Earth
by Jinxo
Jan 17th, 2009
07:01:38 PM
Roslin will get her hope back
by performingmonkey
Jan 17th, 2009
07:05:07 PM
@RaveX
by Cash907
Jan 17th, 2009
07:30:49 PM
Looking for some real blood in the main vein.
by Conqueror Worm
Jan 17th, 2009
08:24:41 PM
"Earth" debate. My theory...
by Executor
Jan 17th, 2009
08:25:24 PM
I think they will find our earth next
by optimus122
Jan 17th, 2009
08:33:15 PM
The Entire Fleet
by JaPra
Jan 17th, 2009
08:47:27 PM
The cylons created humans
by Hardboiled Wonderland
Jan 17th, 2009
08:55:18 PM
"The Final Cylon is YOU"
by Catbarf the 12th
Jan 17th, 2009
09:32:52 PM
Starbuck's entry into "earth's" atmosphere...
by dihay
Jan 17th, 2009
09:46:07 PM
dihay...
by ejcarter9
Jan 17th, 2009
10:02:06 PM
The rubber ball
by therabbitofcaerbannog
Jan 17th, 2009
10:13:59 PM
Humans Blew Up Earth
by happybunni
Jan 17th, 2009
10:32:30 PM
What was with the locket & jacks?
by happybunni
Jan 17th, 2009
10:42:32 PM
Disappointed with Dee's suicide
by dj_bollocks
Jan 17th, 2009
10:59:13 PM
Sorry, but
by Longtime Lurker
Jan 17th, 2009
11:24:27 PM
Said this in the other BSG Talkback but
by Longtime Lurker
Jan 18th, 2009
12:11:13 AM
Hating Kara Thrace makes you a douche.
by LordEnigma
Jan 18th, 2009
12:45:31 AM
Don't believe anything Ron Moore says...
by Bill Clay
Jan 18th, 2009
12:59:07 AM
Agreed, Bill Clay
by NoHubris
Jan 18th, 2009
01:24:04 AM
dj_bollocks RE: Dualla's suicide
by NoHubris
Jan 18th, 2009
01:37:17 AM
sigh...
by SG7
Jan 18th, 2009
02:10:35 AM
I can buy Dee's suicide
by slder78
Jan 18th, 2009
02:22:20 AM
They Can't Go Back to Kobol
by WaitingforAvengers
Jan 18th, 2009
02:32:34 AM
Ellen Degenerates
by MotherPussBucket
Jan 18th, 2009
02:51:13 AM
Dee's suicide
by oisin5199
Jan 18th, 2009
03:06:09 AM
and anti-Whedon?
by oisin5199
Jan 18th, 2009
03:09:15 AM
Having dealt with suicide...
by Hardboiled Wonderland
Jan 18th, 2009
03:47:37 AM
is Starbuck Ellen and Sol Tigh's Cylon lovechild?
by Maniaq
Jan 18th, 2009
04:33:00 AM
It truly is LOST vs BSG for me now
by IAmMrMonkey!
Jan 18th, 2009
04:56:04 AM
There is still "Moore" to be told...
by TheCap
Jan 18th, 2009
05:40:45 AM
Dualla
by Jinxo
Jan 18th, 2009
08:02:57 AM
ejcarter9 - "Frak Pack"? KFC has a FRAK PACK?!
by L.H.Puttgrass
Jan 18th, 2009
08:09:31 AM
Choices
by rizla
Jan 18th, 2009
08:09:54 AM
Choices
by rizla
Jan 18th, 2009
08:09:57 AM
"Okay Timmy, do you want a 2 piece or a 3 piece dinner?"
by L.H.Puttgrass
Jan 18th, 2009
08:16:45 AM
I'M telling ya
by InActionMan
Jan 18th, 2009
09:10:06 AM
Cottle is not GOD
by Demode
Jan 18th, 2009
09:22:55 AM
12 cylons
by kinanimus
Jan 18th, 2009
09:53:25 AM
What about the matching constellations?
by Catbarf the 12th
Jan 18th, 2009
09:59:57 AM
Yeah
by Cobbio
Jan 18th, 2009
10:00:29 AM
Dualla pulled a Hunter S Thompson
by Catbarf the 12th
Jan 18th, 2009
10:07:55 AM
We're definitley in Philip K Dick territory now
by Catbarf the 12th
Jan 18th, 2009
10:12:27 AM
Only 7 Cylons are linked with a number so far
by Catbarf the 12th
Jan 18th, 2009
10:18:50 AM
No Plan
by BackwardGalaxy
Jan 18th, 2009
10:33:10 AM
Boomer is the 7th model
by darthwilson
Jan 18th, 2009
12:40:50 PM
"And they have a plan."
by elprime
Jan 18th, 2009
01:22:08 PM
Damnit! Stop hitting enter after the subject line...
by elprime
Jan 18th, 2009
01:27:47 PM
wait a minute, backward galaxy
by WickedJacob
Jan 18th, 2009
01:35:27 PM
Should the final 5 have been 6?
by Aeronaut
Jan 18th, 2009
01:48:18 PM
The episode had a few good points
by gboybama
Jan 18th, 2009
02:27:37 PM
gboybamma
by IAmMrMonkey!
Jan 18th, 2009
02:54:22 PM
Oh
by IAmMrMonkey!
Jan 18th, 2009
02:55:53 PM
The Hybrid is more important than you may think...
by chromedome
Jan 18th, 2009
02:56:17 PM
I always thought the model 7 stuff was fairly obvious...
by lucas2365
Jan 18th, 2009
03:04:28 PM
while I'm at it....
by lucas2365
Jan 18th, 2009
03:16:31 PM
lucas
by joker2thief
Jan 18th, 2009
03:30:29 PM
damn
by lucas2365
Jan 18th, 2009
03:57:15 PM
It's pretty obvious....
by shellfishh
Jan 18th, 2009
04:23:04 PM
gboybama: I agree with your statement...
by Executor
Jan 18th, 2009
04:57:13 PM
gboybama: I agree with your statement...
by Executor
Jan 18th, 2009
04:58:13 PM
I kinda like the Ellen is an older version of 6 idea
by Maniaq
Jan 18th, 2009
04:59:05 PM
SWEET DEE!!!
by wixmmm
Jan 18th, 2009
05:03:24 PM
About having a plan
by elprime
Jan 18th, 2009
05:13:25 PM
XIPHOS!
by toadkillerdog
Jan 18th, 2009
05:23:18 PM
Well said, elprime
by shellfishh
Jan 18th, 2009
05:29:33 PM
Catbarf the 12th RE: Dualla Taking Control
by NoHubris
Jan 18th, 2009
05:55:59 PM
Elprime
by medicinaluser
Jan 18th, 2009
06:28:11 PM
Maybe the Starbuck that came back...
by Banditmania
Jan 18th, 2009
06:40:59 PM
Sigh...
by Unnatural
Jan 18th, 2009
06:47:14 PM
ChromeHemisphericalTop
by NoHubris
Jan 18th, 2009
06:48:03 PM

by endbadguy
Jan 18th, 2009
07:10:32 PM
show is good again
by AbsoluteTruth
Jan 18th, 2009
07:26:02 PM
Re-Purveying a hybrid "Hybrid Theory"
by chromedome
Jan 18th, 2009
07:47:52 PM
EvilWizardGlick, did Rick Berman know sci/fi?
by Leafar the Lost
Jan 18th, 2009
07:53:23 PM
The True Nature Of Skin Jobs..
by Spidermonkee
Jan 18th, 2009
09:57:10 PM
Just finished...
by kingben
Jan 18th, 2009
10:37:02 PM
Kingben
by elprime
Jan 18th, 2009
10:44:24 PM
Because I'm on a roll
by elprime
Jan 18th, 2009
10:51:12 PM
Starbuck Mystery is like Watching Lost
by frakthetoasters
Jan 18th, 2009
11:36:15 PM
Alas Dualla We Hardly Knew Ye!
by frakthetoasters
Jan 18th, 2009
11:37:12 PM
Starbuck gave herself a Vaderesque funeral pyre
by Catbarf the 12th
Jan 18th, 2009
11:39:56 PM
Yep depressing
by Dazzler69
Jan 19th, 2009
07:09:55 AM
Episode title...
by ron2112
Jan 19th, 2009
07:23:13 AM
Episode title...
by ron2112
Jan 19th, 2009
07:25:14 AM
Yeah well...
by ron2112
Jan 19th, 2009
07:31:17 AM
Frakkin cylon hybrid baby made Duella do it!!!
by turketron
Jan 19th, 2009
08:24:35 AM
Time Travel?
by El Hermano Politico
Jan 19th, 2009
08:35:44 AM
The New Caprica resistence heads are all cylons
by MattInTheHat
Jan 19th, 2009
09:42:02 AM
Whatever brought back the final 5
by knowthyself
Jan 19th, 2009
10:05:17 AM
Cylons
by landocolt45
Jan 19th, 2009
10:08:41 AM
Model Numbers
by Dotren
Jan 19th, 2009
11:01:49 AM
was most disconcerting
by j2talk
Jan 19th, 2009
11:09:59 AM
j2talk
by jackalcack
Jan 19th, 2009
11:53:41 AM
get over it
by oisin5199
Jan 19th, 2009
12:31:54 PM
oisin5199
by Dotren
Jan 19th, 2009
12:51:43 PM
EVERYONE IS A SKRULL!!!
by LaserPants
Jan 19th, 2009
01:13:39 PM
Dualla Has (Had) Beautiful Eyes
by LaserPants
Jan 19th, 2009
01:14:33 PM
i agree
by wixmmm
Jan 19th, 2009
01:15:11 PM
I Was Bummed There Were No Flying Motorcycles
by LaserPants
Jan 19th, 2009
01:17:06 PM
Does Anyone On BSG Ever Smile?
by LaserPants
Jan 19th, 2009
01:19:11 PM
Yeah, they do have a distillery.
by pokadoo
Jan 19th, 2009
01:35:31 PM
Re: Laserpants
by Cobbio
Jan 19th, 2009
01:47:48 PM
Hows about this...
by redtom
Jan 19th, 2009
01:55:52 PM
"replay value"
by oisin5199
Jan 19th, 2009
01:59:57 PM
oisin5199
by wixmmm
Jan 19th, 2009
02:19:37 PM
ELLEN IS 7
by AlphaTrion
Jan 19th, 2009
03:45:49 PM
and
by AlphaTrion
Jan 19th, 2009
03:51:24 PM
I'm a little disappointed...
by DC Films
Jan 19th, 2009
03:52:31 PM
When choosing the Fifth, you have to...
by DC Films
Jan 19th, 2009
04:04:09 PM
the fifth
by oisin5199
Jan 19th, 2009
04:21:14 PM
Question
by originalmemflix
Jan 19th, 2009
04:57:56 PM
Possibly already posted
by Aligator_am
Jan 19th, 2009
06:46:28 PM
some new thoughts
by Maniaq
Jan 19th, 2009
07:05:11 PM
following through on that...
by Maniaq
Jan 19th, 2009
07:07:50 PM
LaserPants... stils and smiles
by MurderMostFowl
Jan 20th, 2009
05:37:30 PM
Ron Moore is only HONEST about how writers write.
by knowthyself
Jan 21st, 2009
01:13:54 PM
My Theory
by TostitoBandito
Jan 21st, 2009
01:34:09 PM
Have we ever seen them eat?
by drewlicious
Jan 21st, 2009
02:29:27 PM
Just so long as....
by v3d
Jan 21st, 2009
02:38:49 PM
Just so long as....
by v3d
Jan 21st, 2009
02:38:50 PM
Was just looking at my "Last Supper" poster...
by zer0cool2k2
Jan 21st, 2009
04:03:55 PM
Theory
by MattInTheHat
Jan 21st, 2009
07:33:17 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong here...
by SlowBurn
Jan 21st, 2009
08:51:21 PM

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