Jan. 16, 2009, 12:41 p.m. CST
Jan. 16, 2009, 12:47 p.m. CST
I'm definitely checking it out this evening.
Jan. 16, 2009, 12:48 p.m. CST
The good, old January dumping ground is here...
Jan. 16, 2009, 12:55 p.m. CST
by The Reluctant Austinite
I could go on for hours (JUST like Steven Soderbergh) about this indulgent vanity project that leaves the audience "with just as many questions" about Che Guevara has they had going in. Who else could spend four and a half hours of film on any subject and not even scratch the surface on what makes the central charcter tick? Who is Che? I don't know. I watched four and a half hours of a film about him, but I have no idea who he is. This film instantly made my list of worst films of 2008 in spite of its artier-than-thou intentions.
Jan. 16, 2009, 1:05 p.m. CST
I know Jack Bauer is. And it's made to look like ' real world heroism ', too.
Jan. 16, 2009, 1:13 p.m. CST
I wanna see it for the title alone. I'm seeing "Notorious" today.
Jan. 16, 2009, 1:13 p.m. CST
by I Dunno
And they remade it?
Jan. 16, 2009, 1:25 p.m. CST
As you can see from this and I Dunno's post, that title can lead to confusion.
Jan. 16, 2009, 1:32 p.m. CST
by The Amazing G
now I REALLY want to see MY BLOODY VALENTINE 3-D
Jan. 16, 2009, 1:35 p.m. CST
Che was an executioner of the innocent. Plain and simple. How do you justify the targeted killing of innocent people. These were not collateral damage in a broader war, but people with a different ideology who were arrested, tried and executed because of religion, sexual preference, or artistic leanings. He was a mass murderer and a ruthless tyrant. Not morally better than Stalin and Hitler, just not as successful in achieving his goals.
Jan. 16, 2009, 1:49 p.m. CST
Love Biggie and it looks like the actor nailed his mannerisms. Good Dick looked very interesting in the trailer I saw a while ago, glad to hear they both were good in your eyes Capone.
Jan. 16, 2009, 1:58 p.m. CST
by Harry Weinstein
...is the first Bollywood film given a US release by a major studio, what does that make Sony's late-2007 release of SAAWARIYA through Columbia or Sony Classics' 2002 release of LAGAAN?
Jan. 16, 2009, 2:17 p.m. CST
Glad to see you liked NOTORIOUS.I'm going tonite.
Jan. 16, 2009, 2:22 p.m. CST
But I'm afraid of the opening weekend crowds. They really know how to ruin a movie by texting through out the movie and talking the entire way through. Notorious will be plain interesting, me living in Louisiana and all.
Jan. 16, 2009, 2:26 p.m. CST
by Admiral Nelson
If Soderbergh doesn't really educate anyone, in 4.5 hours, as to who the "real" Che Guevara was, then why the fuck did he waste his time and ours making these films? (And funny that Soderbergh seems to have omitted the nagging little detail that Che personally ordered the executions of over 1,000 people; otherwise, that just might bum out all the dumbshit kids who don't know squat about this guy, other than his ugly bearded mug seems to connote "anti-authority," therefore he's 'kewl.' Um, nope, he wasn't -- he was a thug, and it's irrelevant what his political intentions were.) So, tell me again: who, exactly, is this movie for? Hell, even some far-left European critics have dismissed these films as being head-scratchingly pointless.
Jan. 16, 2009, 2:40 p.m. CST
I really want to check out Notorious this weekend, but I'm passing. I live in NYC. There is no way there will be a screening this weekend that won't be a nightmare to deal with. Here are the givens. There will without a doubt be annoying loud talking and screaming during the movie and people with concealed weapons looking to throw down. You can tell yourself it won't be that way, but it will. I'll check it out on video or I'll catch a mid-week matinee although with all the folks out of jobs right now even those can be dicey. It's a shame people can't go to the movies and behave, but the type of crowd that will show up for Notorious in NYC is the type of crowd that think they are the entertainment, not the movie.
Jan. 16, 2009, 2:41 p.m. CST
by wampa 1
...but it sure smells good!
Jan. 16, 2009, 2:42 p.m. CST
Should be a great day at the old cineplex.
Jan. 16, 2009, 2:42 p.m. CST
i'm going tonight and it sounds like a lot of others here are too. and if you don't know, now ya know.
Jan. 16, 2009, 2:44 p.m. CST
Don't hold back on us, Clint Eastwood, say what you really mean to say there.
Jan. 16, 2009, 3:09 p.m. CST
I fully expect there will be equally stupid Latino's, Whites and Blacks at the Notorious screening. Dominicans & Puerto Ricans in NYC love to start shit at movies. So do the White kids who think they're tough. This movie will be a hall pass for all the idiots in the world to come into a theater looking to start shit. You don't think so? By tomorrow Drudge will have at least 1 story about violence at a Notorious screening.
Jan. 16, 2009, 3:11 p.m. CST
It is easy to make yourself an anti-authority "Hero", when you murder enough people to BECOME the authority. I love that "Che was a man of the people" line. Huh? If forcing defenceless, impoverished, villagers at gunpoint to fight for your cause , then I guess he was. Che was a rich, spoiled, narcissist with a homicidal streak...so murderous and twisted even Fidel Castro could not trust nor stomach him further..and made sure he was sent away as soon as his usefulness had ended...while keeping the "Che" myth alive to indocrinate the young. For Soderbergh to make a film about this man and leave all of that out, is like making a film about Hitler that leaves out that little problem he had with the Jews.
Jan. 16, 2009, 3:12 p.m. CST
Of course he means blacks... and if you had to go to the movies in NYC you would know exactly what he is talking about. Not racist, just a fact of life going to certain films in NYC. and it is ALWAYS blacks who are the offenders... at least in my experience. I refuse to go to late night films anymore. Waste of time and if you try to say anything, your life gets threatened. Has happened to me several times.
Jan. 16, 2009, 3:29 p.m. CST
You forget that the majority of impovershed Cubans welcomed the Castro regime. Nor forcing was required. Castro very quickly turned out to be just another despot, but the regime he replaced was just as despotic.
Jan. 16, 2009, 3:35 p.m. CST
I went to go see Step Brothers at the Sony Lincoln Square this summer on a Saturday night and a guy two rows in front of us decided he was going to play music on his cell phone out loud for everyone to hear because in his words, "this shit is boring". When someone told him to shut the phone off he jumped out of his seat and responded, "I'll fucking shoot you". When no one said anything to him in response to that he said, "yeah, that's what I thought" and sat back down and started to laugh with his friends and continued to play music out loud until a woman got up and went to get security who kicked him and his boys out of the theater. I fully expect that he will be at Notorious tonight times 1000. This was the Sony Lincoln Square on the Upper West Side. That's going to the movies in NYC these days if you go to a popular-ish movie on an opening weekend.
Jan. 16, 2009, 3:58 p.m. CST
by The Reluctant Austinite
but in 4 and 1/2 hours I learned nothing about Che Guevara. Like many, to me he was just a face on a t-shirt, and I hoped I would learn a little history in the process. I didn't. And there's a saying that goes "Kill a couple of people and they call you a psychopath; kill a few thousand and they call you a conqueror."
Jan. 16, 2009, 4:06 p.m. CST
some old Congolese, or Bolivians what THEY though of comrade Che if you think no "forcing" was needed. Or maybe you should ask the hundreds of thousands of exiled Cubans living around the world, or those few political prisoners who by luck escaped Che's daily execution squads. Any Movie that leaves these facts out is nothing but Springtime for Hitler with a Spanish accent.
Jan. 16, 2009, 4:12 p.m. CST
Lincoln Center is where I see most films. I would say that it doesn't even matter what kind of movie it is, as long as its after 9pm. I've had black people try to start shit with me during everything from superhero films to oscar dramas. yes some latinos also pull this shit, but never in 17 years of film going has it been a white guy trying to act tough. there are certainly white's that make too much noise, but they shut up if you ask. they don't get up out of there seat and stand beside you or threaten to shoot you. Magic Johnson even said that when he started his chain of theaters that blacks watch movies in a different way than whites. they like it to be an interactive experience. thats fine with me as long as its kept up at 125th st. people can say whatever they want, but it is a fact of going to films in nyc and its mostly blacks who are the ones who are threatening and monumentally disrespectful of others and the surroundings.
Jan. 16, 2009, 4:17 p.m. CST
Mao is starting to get some of the same hipster lefty love these days that Che has enjoyed for so many years. He only killed at least 10 million of his own people. there is no way any respect can be given to someone stupid enough to support Che by wearing a T-shirt. the irony involved in Che being celebrated in merchandising is too much. sad, sorry, stupid, misguided people. "i bought this shirt to show how much i hate capitalism!" silly.
Jan. 16, 2009, 6:42 p.m. CST
yah gwon witcha baad silf mama!
Jan. 16, 2009, 9:32 p.m. CST
by The Amazing G
can't say I've heard that term before!
Jan. 16, 2009, 10:51 p.m. CST
I take it you're not seeing "Che"?
Jan. 17, 2009, 12:13 a.m. CST
Hearing about Notorious it was said that Sylvester Stallone was directing it. What was that all about?
Jan. 17, 2009, 8:13 a.m. CST
by Dreadlock Holmes
The real word your looking for is "Niggers" isn't it? Go ahead. You can say it!
Jan. 17, 2009, 11:09 a.m. CST
Look what he's written about BLACKS IN NYC. As a Black person (I live outside NYC, but in NY) He's right, he's 10000% RIGHT! You can't watch any movie in NYC if it has 25% or more of blacks. It's the truth.<br><br> And as a side note; the story 'exie' said, believe me that 'person' didn't have a gun. All he had was a big mouth(like 99.9 of them). I won't go long into my story, but I had an incident years ago like that, and I called his bluff. He did nothing, and his 'pals' didn't even back him up. He just sat down and was quiet for the rest of the movie. I even waited for him after the movie in the lobby, and nothing. So most are just talk(I say most, cause some do carry guns. and those who don't, can't on that fear).<br><br> Sorry to say, but this is not a stereotype, but a fact that you can't watch a movie in any inner city( or any major city in fact) with some black people.<br><br> I promise you that there will be a shooting, a massive fight or something at a screening of Notorious. Mark my words!<br><br> I know not many black people visit this site, but at least I can back up what is the truth.
Jan. 17, 2009, 12:37 p.m. CST
by Quake II
I feel bad for you. That shit sounds crazy. Out here in Arizona, I get pissed if I see the light from a teenager texting, but someone threatening to shoot me? Funny thing is, with our lax gun laws and concealed weapons carry permits, No minority would try that threat shit in an Az theater. It's MOSTLY the white males packing legally concealed weapons out here. Maybe New York needs to drop the anti-gun stance and let people carry. You'll see a lot less bullying and thuggish bullshit, for sure!
Jan. 17, 2009, 12:48 p.m. CST
I might actually see part 1 of Che. Del Torro is a hell of an actor and I don't like to miss his finer performances. though I normally don't agree with EW they are probably right when they say that Che is twice as long as it should be but not half the film it could be. I've read the first part is fairly accurate, but the second is when they leave out his executioner sensibilities. When far left film critics (91% call themselves liberal to very liberal) have a problem with this as do much of the foreign critics who are very liberal (though not typically sympathetic to communist despots) then you know way too much of the truth has been left out. it is unfortunate. could have been a great and honest account of a complicated mass murderer.
Jan. 17, 2009, 5:19 p.m. CST
In North Carolina. Police evacuated The Grand 18 Four Seasons Station cinemas Friday just after 9 p.m. after a shooting. According to police, a gun went off in a theater hallway. The person shot has been taken to a nearby hospital, but no information on the victim's condition is available. About 700 people were in the cinema complex at the time of the shooting. A Greensboro police officer told FOX8 News that actor Jamal Woolard, the star of "Notorious" a film about the life and death of rapper Christopher 'Biggie' Wallace, was at the theatre. According to the officer, Woolard left shortly after the shooting. The movie premiered Friday nationwide and is being shown on multiple screens at The Grand 18 Four Seasons Station, as well as other theaters across the Piedmont. Police said they do not know if there is a connection between the film and shooting.
Jan. 17, 2009, 5:25 p.m. CST
I'm curious to see it too, but from what I'm hearing its not exactly the purest portayal of who Chris Wallace was, which isnt that hard to believe considering his mother and Diddy were the producers, for entertainment probably worth it, for facts, you should probably stick to Behind the Music
Jan. 17, 2009, 5:58 p.m. CST
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Jan. 17, 2009, 9:52 p.m. CST
Are what I'm Going To See Monday.It Sucks That people can be more respectful of others who spend there hard earned money on a few hours of escapism and entertainment.Luckily i've never had to bad of an incident in a theater.I live in arizona and the theater i go to seems to be cool.but i choose matinees on weekdays due to the dumbfucks opening night attracts.And QuakeII is right you see some old dudes packing heat on there hip here so you'd have to think twice about making that threat
Jan. 17, 2009, 9:55 p.m. CST
No one got shot. Good movie though.
Jan. 18, 2009, 12:39 a.m. CST
Wanted to go to a late night showing of Valentine tonight. We got there and it was INSANE. The opening of 300 wasn't half as bad. Sooooo bad. Paul Blart, Valentine and Notorious were all sold out. Maybe we'll try Monday...
Jan. 19, 2009, 10:45 a.m. CST
Has got to be the best 3D remake of a little known mid '80s horror movie made in the midst of the glut of holiday themed/titled horror movies made popular by Halloween and Friday The 13th. I never understood the connection between Valentines Day and a mad killer in a mining town, but logic was never these movies strong point. It would be nice if the casting director would look a little harder than the CW/WB cast directory (the 2 male leads). Jamie King does a nice job of screaming and looking scared. Betsy Rue gets extra stars for a totally non self conscious nude scene that goes on for minutes. She doesn't stop to put on a shirt or robe when storming out of the motel room. Nope, naked as the day she was born she storms out. Kudos.<p>Lussier did learn from editing the Scream franchise, how to stage stalking and attack scenes effectively, and there is seldom a lull in the story or action. My only complaint is the lack of suspense. The killer tends to pop up like jack in the box ready to attack with little build up. The supermarket scene does achieve some suspense, the tried and true barricade the door, but otherwise its pop-up-and-kill, pop-up-and-kill. The 3D though is the best I've ever seen in a live action film. Center Of Earth was uneven and distracting. Valentine has very natural lighting, nice depth of field scenes, and plenty, I mean PLENTY of Comin AtCha shots, usually of pickaxes pokin through the "screen". The 3D highlights for me were: a) The eyeball (from Friday The 23th onward, always a goodie) b) Tom Atkins POV shot c) and for atmosphere the scene toward the end, when the killer is knocking out lights and the miner uniform is seen for a flash each time.<p>For all the crappy horror remakes lately..it's ironic that a trailer for Friday The 13th preceded this, from producer Michael Bay and the director of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre..excuse me gents, TOBE HOOPER is the director of that film; it should read Texas Chainsaw Massacre the remake...this takes a passable slasher film from the eighties and turns it into a pretty good slasher film for the aughts. 7 out of 10.