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SUPERNATURAL & REAPER Fans!! TV Guide Drops CW From Listings!! Makes Room For Ion, MyNet, Discovery Health & QVC!!

Published at: Jan. 13, 2009, 12:33 a.m. CST

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Those who have been hoping that MTV would just go away have gotten the next best thing. TV Guide Magazine, the zillions-in-debt periodical recently purchased by the private equity firm OpenGate for one dollar, has dropped MTV, home of “The Real World” and “The Hills,” from its grids. Also dropped from the magazine’s listings? The CW. Home of “Smallville,” “Supernatural” and “Reaper,” to say nothing of “Gossip Girl.” MyNetworkTV is still on the grid. So is QVC. (Hey, “White Mountain Footwear” is on tomorrow night!) So are channels I would guess are less popular than The CW, like Ion, Discovery Health, FitTV, Fox Reality, GSN and ESPN Classic. It’s like something out of “The Producers”! The new owners of the magazine seem determined to run it aground in hopes of getting a tax write-off or something! It’s as if they’re determined to convince us America doesn’t need TV Guide anymore! This story was not manufactured by The Onion. I subscribe to the print edition, and MTV and The CW are indeed gone. "There are now hundreds of channels on television and we can only accommodate approximately 70 in our primetime grids," supergenius TV Guide president/CEO Scott Crystal told the Philadelphia Inquirer. Variety was unable to reach TV Guide (presumably to raise the question of a smaller typeface), but you can find Variety’s story on the matter here.

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  • Jan. 13, 2009, 12:07 a.m. CST

    TV Guide had its place in history...

    by JediRob

    ...but it is obviously not relevant any longer. It's latest incarnation was a shadow of its former self. That said this is a ridiculous story and one has to wonder at the reasoning and motivation behind it.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 12:10 a.m. CST

    Wow that's like the sports section in newspapers

    by slder78

    deciding to only cover cricket, darts, and Texas Hold'em poker. Who the hell watches "ion" anyway?

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 12:12 a.m. CST

    It has not occurred to be to read TV Guide

    by Kneprock

    since sometime in the 80's but I do like Supernatural and Reaper. They may be absent from TV Guide but they will not be absent from my screen

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 12:16 a.m. CST

    Why are we giving them them the....

    by jaws8u

    publicity they are so desperate for. No one gives a shit about TV Guide, and no one important ever did. They could drop every station, and just print blank pages and three people born before the first World War would be the only ones who noticed.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 12:18 a.m. CST

    tv guide is obsolete

    by oisin5199

    with dvrs, tivos and guides on your cable box or satellite dish. Or any tv listing website. TVguide changed the format of their website and blogs, and they don't have Matt Roush and Ausiello anymore, so there's no reason to go there either. They've tanked.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 12:18 a.m. CST

    One final thought...

    by jaws8u

    I heard about this 1 dollar sale a few months ago when it happened, and I remember thinking one thing after reading the headline and ignoring the story... "The overpaid."

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 12:21 a.m. CST

    Scared for a minute

    by Z 008

    Thought the headline meant Reaper was disappearing from the CW's schedule or something. Now I'm relieved, who uses TV Guide nowadays anyway?

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 12:21 a.m. CST

    If my grandmother knew what the CW was...

    by Ultimo The Duck

    Man would she ever be pissed. Luckily for her she only watches CSI.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 12:25 a.m. CST

    the viewership will drop by another 50%

    by dmstar

    cos if ppl dun find it in the guide they will not watch it cos they have too many channels to choose from and they will not know that they dun have those channels!!!!

  • In the words of Barney Stinson, "Friendship over... FRIENDSHIP OVER!!!"

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 12:49 a.m. CST

    It seems weird but just picture in your mind who

    by snowpuff

    reads TV Guide nowadays. Focus. Can you see the old lady with the three cats? Focus. Yes, there she is. Wouldn't you know it? She IS turning on QVC.<br> <br> I think that's what in their mind and metrics data. But I doubt that even though TV Guide readers watch a lot of QVC that they care what's show is at any time. You have to use such data with some basic intuition too, TV Guide folks...

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 12:58 a.m. CST

    TV Guide

    by Alientoast

    I think the last time I read a TV Guide was about 13 years ago, when I was still in High School and had a job at the local Supermarket. I would read it in an effort overcome the boredom one would frequently experience on a quiet day. Too bad the articles only made up all over 12 pages.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 1:10 a.m. CST

    Friday Night Lights back to NBC

    by mistergreen

    http://www.nbc.com/Friday_Night_Lights/video/clips/friday-night-lights-preview/915926/

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 1:26 a.m. CST

    Crazy

    by Jinxo

    A magazine based on TV listings that is failing decides to get particular about what listings it lists. Because that will bring in more readers. Madness. In point of fact TV Guide needs to reinvent itself much mroe aggressively. The listings in the magazine are in fact beside the point. If the publishers had a brain in their head they'd ditch the listings entirely and go with all TV news, becoming America's guide to TV news. Still would be hard to make it go as magaiznes in general are on the decline. But right now I think people do see the listings as a waste and avoid buying TV guide because it's a magazine where 75% of the pages are a waste of their time and money. Fill those pages with articles and other content you might grab a few more readers.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 1:27 a.m. CST

    Reaper's fun and Supernatural is one of the

    by Amy Chasing

    best things on TV at the moment. Is nice to have some shows to not bitch about.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 1:28 a.m. CST

    At first....

    by Menchekia

    ...I was mad, because I like those Reaper and Supernatural. But then I realized that I only read TV Guide for the articles anyway. I haven't actually looked at the grid since I got DirectTV and now I just push a button to get a grid.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 1:32 a.m. CST

    TV Guide is a dinosaur.

    by Cheif Brody

    All of our cable & satellite boxes have MORE than ample scheduling grids available. Every news outlets homepage has a quick link to a primetime TV sked with 3 clicks of your mouse. Can't believe TV Guide has lasted THIS long! <p> If you are under 65 and subscribe or buy TV Guide...you must be a big fan of that really tough crossword in the back! <p> "Let's see...5 Down...'Starsky and _ _ _ _ _'...Hmmmm...that's a toughie! Um....12 across...'Leave It To _ _ _ _ _ _'...Dang, this is a HARD one!" <p> RIP TV GUide....and The CW!!

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 1:57 a.m. CST

    BTW...What the hell are they puttin in the water at NBC?

    by Cheif Brody

    Howie Mandel rushed to the hospital for chest pains today... "Pulse or No Pulse?" <p> Law & Order's Mariska Hargitay rushed to the hospital today for a collapsed lung? "Law & Oxygen!" <p> Next, we'll hear KITT threw a rod and blew a head gasket! <p> No surprise NBC Universal is a joint owner of A&E...which airs Patrick Swayze's "The Beast". <p> Weird string of health scares to kick of '09 for the Peacock network. <p> Hmmmm...Maybe it's a strain of 'bird flu'?

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 1:57 a.m. CST

    Does Frank Costanza still collect TV Guide?

    by Monkeybrains

    If he does, he's the only one.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 2:08 a.m. CST

    Only thing that makes sense...

    by Executor

    ...is that TV Guide subscribers are mostly (besides Herc and approximately 4 others) over the age of 40, and well beyond the demographic of gossip girl, real world, MTV, CW stuff.<p>

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 2:39 a.m. CST

    Well this explains why Ausiello jumped ship

    by Cash907

    Apparently he got the scoop that the publication was a sinking ship months before anyone else.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 2:59 a.m. CST

    MTV and CW are still on TV Guide. com

    by F-18

    Which is a better place to get tv listings than the magazine. <p> The magazine sucks now, it's basically Entertainment Weekly with a few pages of general, non-local tv listings in it.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 4:24 a.m. CST

    Don't forgot the Word Sudoku

    by tonagan

    I love to do that.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 4:53 a.m. CST

    TVG, really?

    by The McPoyle Clan

    The print edition, no less? Who needs them when it's so easy to get the TribCo listings from Zap2it?

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 6:16 a.m. CST

    who still buys TV Guide?

    by j2talk

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 6:58 a.m. CST

    Oh, and Herc?

    by ByTor

    How can they use a smaller typeface? Their readership won't be able to read it.<P> Y'know. What with them being in their sixties and all.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 7:21 a.m. CST

    TV Guide wasn't cool when it was cool.

    by Cletus Van Damme

    "Hey, let's market a periodical geared towards the demographic with the shittiest possible eyesight and make the print as small as possible. Wait, just as a goof, let's print the whole damn thing about the size of a goddamn greeting card!"<p>Give me a break, TV Guide has been a joke since Lou Grant.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 7:24 a.m. CST

    Laugh it up you young hipsters

    by meCPS

    Some of us old folk (a staggering 43 years of age, better start saving for my wheelchair) still apreciate the feel of actual paper with ink on it. While I agree with some of the above posters that I don't even look at the grid listings, it does still have some fun articles, weekly highlights, etc... and at the subscription prices it's a steal.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 7:58 a.m. CST

    I think TV Guide got me into LOST

    by turketron

    My grandmother used to save them for me and I read an issue that had an article about the show back when it was midway through its first season. I was in college at the time, and I fired up the old bit torrents and plowed through the available episodes and have been hooked ever since, hooking friends left and right. I had no idea they were in that much debt though... amazing. The grid is pretty much useless now when you have the tv guide/preview channel, tvguide.com, etc.

  • Uh, we don't. I use the guide from my DVR.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 9:12 a.m. CST

    Coaxial has been my TV Guide for the last 4 years.

    by Shermdawg

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 9:14 a.m. CST

    I can see QVC getting space, but MyNetwork?

    by Shermdawg

    They've only got like two shows, Smackdown and that masked magician thing.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 9:42 a.m. CST

    Turned to Crap Long Before they Became Irrelevant

    by _Maltheus_

    I once read TV Guide. At some point in the last century, I noticed that their grid was almost always wrong. The times were frequently off and even when they weren't they'd say shows were a repeat when they clearly weren't (we're talking schedules that were planned well in advance). I never agreed with the editorials either. They were always chasing last year's buzz and dissing shows purely for lack of ratings. It became completely pointless for me in the course of one year. That's when I stopped buying them. Luckily, the web provided a viable alternative, and although still in its infancy, was much more accurate than TV Guide ever was. Come to think of it, why aren't they out of business yet? Who the fuck still reads it?

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Really?

    by the_patriot

    First off, I didn't think that TV Guide even published listings anymore once they switched to that crappy EW style format. Shows how long it's been since I've read it. Who in the BLUE FUCK needs to know what's scheduled on QVC? 7am: useless shit to buy. 8am to 11pm: worthless shit to buy. 11pm-7am: shitty informercials about shit to buy. I get that they're trying to focus on the demographic that reads this thing still, but...wow. You think your business is in trouble, so you decide to focus on pleasing a demographic that is dying off and not catering to the demographics that will replace them. Good job. I hope y'all spent that dollar well!!

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 10:49 a.m. CST

    I gave up on TV Guide a couple of years ago

    by jim

    when I realized it took them about 3 weeks (issues) to reflect a schedule change. I was planning on not renewing my subscription but, as it turned out, the Canadian edition of TV Guide was discontinued. I ended up getting a refund.<p>I do have to say, I always enjoyed their preview issues, as well as their "best shows you're not watching" ones - they were always very informative.<p>With TV Guide dumping CW listings, I wonder how nervous NBC is. As the 4th place network, will they be next to be banished?

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 10:59 a.m. CST

    TV Guide is a joke now.

    by Zardozap2005

    With the creation of Tivo and other various DVR's from the major cable and sat companies, TV Guide is no longer necessary. I havent needed to look at TV Guide since I bought my Tivo Series One back in the day. I would expect them to be history at some point in the near future.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 11:02 a.m. CST

    Why does TV Guide still exist.

    by Cotton McKnight

    Hell, I don't even remember using it before the DVR. I just checked the sunday paper every week. I mean, so many better things have fallen on the wayside the last few years, but TV guide is sticking around? Blah.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 11:50 a.m. CST

    ah TV GUIDE

    by yubnubrocks

    I used to love it back in the 70s and 80s. But now, yea with DVR, etc. time to go bye bye. On another note, any reason Entertainment Weekly ignores Supernatural? Yes, they list it in their What to Watch but no major articles. C'mon! Give it some exposure!

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 12:23 p.m. CST

    CHUCK now has better ratings than HEROES

    by Razorback

    And yet no talkback... but we talk about this?

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 1:12 p.m. CST

    GRANDPA FARTS IN HIS SLEEP now has better ratings than HEROES

    by Cheif Brody

    ...yer point is?

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Cotton McKnight

    by frozen01

    I had the same thought. I remember stealing my parents' newspaper when I was a kid to see what the plot of the next X-Files episode would be. I thought TVG went under years ago. Never once read TV Guide, except maybe while waiting in the supermarket checkout line.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 3:02 p.m. CST

    Besides Gossip Girl, Supernatural, and Reaper

    by TVguy4566

    Does The CW even have any other orginal programming? If they do, I am clueless to come up with a name of a show. Is Chris Rock's show still on? There's a model show, right?!? What else?<br><br> TV Guide is just confirming me something I already know - The CW is irrelevant and barely a network. They should have never merged the WB and UPN. At least before the merger, there were a few shows on the WB I actually watched.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 3:14 p.m. CST

    It's all those rubber gloves Howie's been huffing

    by tangcameo

    And that Bobby voice. Both deprive what little braincells he has of oxygen. TV Guide has even divorced itself from it's website, taking with it commentators and tv episode commentary in favour of "recaps" of only half the popular shows, done by whichever rats didn't have the smarts to leave the sinking shi-er-ship. TVGuide needed to evolve and revamp but instead, like so many other publications, it's shutting down itself and dying like some cancer patient in palliative care.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 3:16 p.m. CST

    Jeers....

    by sonnyhooper

    .....that is all.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 4:45 p.m. CST

    FOX cancels GRANDPA FARTS IN HIS SLEEP

    by Squashua

    And moves GRANDMA WETS HERSELF to the Friday slot.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 10:42 p.m. CST

    Don't you people have digital guides with your service?

    by Power_Girl

    Who uses paper these days? Your dopey houses wives who still read gossip rags?

  • Jan. 14, 2009, 4:54 p.m. CST

    Why?

    by Potch

    Why take channels out of the listings? That's just bizarre. Plus, they're still on tvguide.com, so what the heck is the point of removing the listings??