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Merrick here...
An image of an Autobot new to TRANSFORMERS: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN has shown up over at the message boards. It's Sideswipe, first indicated late last Summer when a Corvette concept car (depicting its vehicle/street mode) was spotted on the film's set.


This picture, evidently nabbed from toy packaging, originated HERE.

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  • Jan. 11, 2009, 10:08 p.m. CST

    Looks Pretty Cool...

    by Dranem

    But I'm not holding my breath about the movie.

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 10:11 p.m. CST

    Let's say second.

    by broken ring


  • Jan. 11, 2009, 10:11 p.m. CST

    Seriously though

    by broken ring

    Doesn't really do anything for me...and i actually enjoyed the first one.

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 10:12 p.m. CST

    I like it

    by Turd Furgeson

    Not sure about the silver though, reminds me of the old Megatron..

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 10:12 p.m. CST

    That looks like a Transformer...

    by ebonic_plague

    ...not a twisted mass of random metal. I wonder how that got by Bay.

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 10:15 p.m. CST

    it looks like a transformer is right


    but the toys from the movie always look a little more 'car' than they will in the movie. i will say, this is an improvement.

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 10:25 p.m. CST

    It doesn't have claw-like feet...

    by Amy Chasing

    and a weird face like those Transformers in the first film. <P> Are they going for a more traditional Transformer look this time I wonder? We can only hope!

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 10:26 p.m. CST

    Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet American made car!

    by JDanielP

    American PRIDE

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 10:26 p.m. CST

    Now try seeing that..

    by UMAGA

    When you watch the shit stain that will be the movie.

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 10:26 p.m. CST

    The designs in this movie so far

    by SilentP

    look a lot less busy and messy than the ones from the first movie. Still not as good as if they would just go with the original freaking designs, but at least it's improving. I'd like to think they are taking fans' complaints into consideration here, and that maybe Bay will also actually film the action in a way where I can understand what's going on.<br>It... it could happen.<br>cough

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 10:29 p.m. CST


    by Mr. Lahey

    But I want to see some Devastator. I assume they'll try to keep him under wraps until closer to release.

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Fuck That Noise

    by Crow3711

    Oh look, another gigantic robot of the kind where you can't tell it's face from his ass, now with 100% more product placement. In the words of David Lynch, "Fuckin' Bullshit."

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 10:31 p.m. CST

    Needs more rumble, frenzy, ratbat, rampage, lazerbeak, and...

    by Baked

    Soundwave disguised as a giant concert stage speaker system.

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 10:31 p.m. CST

    ...Or a submarine.

    by Baked

    Just in case.

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 10:36 p.m. CST

    Also, that's from the toy packaging

    by Mr. Lahey

    Just in case you didn't read Merrick's post

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 10:41 p.m. CST

    The design looks much simpler.

    by MaxTheSilent

    Which can only be a good thing. The robots in the first one were an atrocity.

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 10:42 p.m. CST


    by alice 13

    its for ages 5 and up!

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 10:43 p.m. CST

    Sweet, Sweet,... Sucking..thats what this is...

    by conspiracy

    So the designs are looking better...and the toys look cool.....Who gives a fuck. It is a Micheal FUCKING Bay movies penned by those modern day Shakespeares' Orci & Kurtzman, and Staring those master thespians Shia LeBeef and Megan "I'll fuck you for a walk on" Fox. For those reasons alone it has Fail etched into it. This movie will have all Quality of a ScriptGirl YouTube Video...only with $150M worth of effects to please the hoard of ADD afflicted 12year olds who will get sent to watch this mess so Mom can bang the family Great Dane.

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 10:44 p.m. CST

    Looks Simplified

    by tolomey

    Which is good. To be honest I'm nearly 30 years old, I bought the G1 toys and saw the original Transformers movie on the big screen and I still fucking loved Bay's Transformers. The design were just a little bit too busy and the action at times was hard to follow, that being said, I'm sure that Bay has looked at what the fans want and is going to meet us halfway. 2009 is gonna be a great year at the movies folks.

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 10:45 p.m. CST

    Lol MaxTheSilent great minds think alike

    by tolomey

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 10:46 p.m. CST

    You people are reallly dumb

    by Rufferto

    and gullible.

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 10:49 p.m. CST


    by killianx

    Can we at least Sideswipes colour right!!!! I mean Damn! If you arent going to make him a Ferrari at least give us a Red sportscar! I am liking the new Robot designs though more G1 than last time!

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 10:51 p.m. CST


    by FuckMichaelBay

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 10:51 p.m. CST


    by FuckMichaelBay

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 10:52 p.m. CST


    by FuckMichaelBay

    Two in one week! JOY!

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 11:02 p.m. CST

    KurtLockwood....Military Channel..$10/Month

    by conspiracy

    All the Military Mumbo Jumbo you can handle...without the need to support the SHIT that is Bay/Kurtzman/Orcis Transformers....Don't encourage them..they will only make more shit.

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 11:08 p.m. CST

    No guarantee this will be in the film

    by Ye Not Guilty

    Obviously this is just the toy packaging art. Last time around I believe they made toys out of a lot of Transformers that weren't in the film, like Arcee. Sideswipe may or may not be in the film itself.

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 11:13 p.m. CST

    Vern, I love you, but...

    by greenstyle92

    I'm going to have to suck at the corporate teet on this one. I liked the first movie. I could distinguish the robots and I could follow the action. (It's easier to follow on a television screen.) I'm looking forward to the new one. Sorry. I kiss my credibility good bye. Well, I'm not worried about fellow talkbackers, because we're all turds flushing down the same pot, but Vern, you've got an opinion I respect, but I gotta part with you on this one, (as unlikely as it is you'll scan this talkback anyway.)

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 11:15 p.m. CST

    Ye not guilty, we know this one is in the film because

    by greenstyle92

    We saw on set photos of this car while TF2 was filming. The car is in and was confirmed as one of the film's transformers. Now this is the first indication of what his name will be, (sideswipe! Sideswipe was the first transformer I ever owned!) and what he looks like.

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 11:21 p.m. CST

    by RockMSockM

    Sorry, but one of the things Michael Bay more or less does correctly is his handling of military procedural and technical depiction. I guess that's one of the perks of having an all-access 'partnership' with the military.

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 11:26 p.m. CST

    But whats he gonna pee on?

    by blindambition238

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 11:31 p.m. CST

    Here is a side-by-side comparison...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    ...of this image with some concept art of Sideswipe:<P><P> And remember kids...<P>THE POWER OF BAY COMPELS YOU!!!

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 11:52 p.m. CST

    A Transformer that looks like a Transformer

    by Dr. Chim Richalds

    Amazing, it only took them one whole movie to figure that out. By the way, why is it that Bay has a "special relationship" with the military, or whatever?

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 11:53 p.m. CST


    by Nasty In The Pasty

    There's Shia's performance

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 12:05 a.m. CST

    How about some GOBOTS movie news?

    by BurnHollywood

    Remember those shitty, cut-rate knock-offs that barely "transformed" from something that sorta looked like a robot to something that sorta looked like a vehicle?<p> The kicker was, the shitty local station where I lived never showed TRANSFORMERS, just GOBOTS, because they thought kids were too stupid to notice the difference in quality...and they were. Sadly, that screwed all us slackers, to say nothing of the stoners.<p> The eighties pretty much sucked...don't let anyone tell you any different.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 12:12 a.m. CST

    A little closer. At least someone remembered

    by Dingbatty

    that Japanese robot toys are supposed to look like samurai. Though the new show Transformers Animated is still superior to this crap.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 12:13 a.m. CST

    Dr. Chin & GreenStlye...

    by DeeJay

    Dr. Chin... they say this relationship started with "Pearl Harbor," and has persisted since. Despite the artistic freedoms presented by the industry, Hollywood has a much more developed interaction with the US government than many people tend to assume (just look at how and why Jack Valenti went from the White House to the MPAA). GreenStyle... you're right, and not only was it easier to follow on a television screen, but the story and characters were easier to follow than the first cartoon movie. Don't get me wrong; I liked both. The reality, however, is that Bay's product had much better organization than the freshman cartoon effort. Additionally, the larger themes of having the freedom to live and having guardian angels to protect man had far greater reasonance than the idea of the "touch" and (sometimes) fighting for the mere sake of fighting.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 12:14 a.m. CST

    Now let's get Sunstreaker and Prowl in this movie bitches!

    by LordEnigma

    This makes me happier than Michael Bay using a beard trimmer!

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 12:21 a.m. CST


    by DeeJay

    ... this highlights the tragedy of bad design and poorly-chosen collaborations. The Go-Bots cartoon could've hidden the deficiencies in the toys (the smaller size, the lead villains "detachable" wheel, etc.) by giving them a crisper look, better-developed characters, and better-choosing their partners. Instead, they used a set of designs and a backstory that confirmed the notion of their characters being second-rate as compared to Transformers. Heck, "Mighty Orbots" actually had far better animation than either "Go-Bots" or "Transformers," but they didn't develop very good product-based partnerships (or character designs), either.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 12:35 a.m. CST


    by DeeJay

    ... while I enjoyed the first installment, I really hope they tone down the no-no-no's in part 2. If they don't, I can just see audience members shouting "no-no-no" along with LeBouf (or bursting into laughter every time he says it). Come to think of it, maybe Bay is going to "wink" at the audience by having one of the characters point this out to S. Witwicky...

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 12:43 a.m. CST

    Way to go incognito

    by aboriginal

    Why not an orange Gallardo or something more camo'd like an Enzo or Silver Spur? Enough with the whole GM underwriting shameless ploy of movie advertising. How's about a nice '78 Stingray.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 12:48 a.m. CST

    Loved the 1st Transformers movie

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    So I am sure I will love this one too. Giant fucking robots beating the shit out of each other on the big screen equals epic win.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 12:55 a.m. CST

    ohh I bet he will say some cute little one liners

    by disfigurehead

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 1:07 a.m. CST

    GOBOTS is better than transformers

    by cloudrider`

    if you think otherwise, it's because it's typical for americans to think they live in center of the universe. first of all, its real name is MR(machine robo), and both the original toys and animation is way better than transformers's. i know, cause i owned quite a bunch of the toys growing up here in asia. they're much better designed and made of diecast for the most part. it's only when hasbro took over from bandai, and started producing them for the US market, then the toys got real shitty. then that king of shitty animation called hanna barbera made a cartoon out of it, further tainting the license. <p> we here in asia got so much cooler toys growing up you just would not believe. while you were playing with your plastic GI joe and plastic transformers, diecast robots were all the rave here.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 1:25 a.m. CST

    Hahahahaha... Bay couldn't even get the colour right!

    by photoboy

    In what way does this resemble Sideswipe? Another FAIL from Bay.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 1:29 a.m. CST

    They've gotten a bit sleeker now

    by PTSDPete

    That's good.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 1:33 a.m. CST


    by donkey_lasher

    You're absolutely right. They were marketed in the UK at one point as Robo Machines and were high quality. I still broke mine as a child though.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 1:35 a.m. CST

    sideswipe is a red lambo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by billyhitchcock

    not a shiny silver piece of shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 1:40 a.m. CST

    and not a ferrari killianx :-)

    by billyhitchcock

    sorry to out nerd you.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 1:41 a.m. CST


    by El Borak

    the transformer i actually had beside optimus and an insecticon.<br> <br>but what happened to the red?

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 1:41 a.m. CST

    80's robots properties

    by cloudrider`

    gundam. macross. voltes v(neon evangelion's granddaddy). any of these robot cartoons is much more deserving to be made into live action film. the difference between those properties and transformers is that the former are not shitty materials. too bad hollywood never have the balls to go beyond the border and actually SEE what's cool outside the US. must cater to the local geek crowd, see. next, more shitty cartoon from the 80's. he-man and thundercats. meooww!!

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 1:47 a.m. CST


    by cloudrider`

    i broke most of mine either.:) maybe one or two are still left hanging around the house. i have fond memories of those little guys. cool toys. it was produced decades ago, and it still best the current transformers toys by hasbro. <p> HASBRO SUCKS!!!

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 1:56 a.m. CST

    Can't they at least make Sideswipe red??

    by Dogmatic

    I mean I know Bay doesnt give a rip about being faithful to the look of the characters but couldnt he at least do SOMEthing toward making them like their namesake? Sideswipe is RED.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 1:58 a.m. CST

    I really hope someone damns Michael Bay for this.

    by darwinmayflower

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 2:04 a.m. CST


    by the milf lover

    "too bad hollywood never have the balls to go beyond the border and actually SEE what's cool outside the US" <p> I know your point is more about toys, but Hollywood has noticed something else, have you seen all the remakes of asian horror movies Hollywood has been churning out on a nearly monthly frequency the last few years?

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 2:17 a.m. CST

    I dunno....

    by Unknown Canadian

    ....I always remembered liking the Go-Bots' toy designs better. Mainly 'cause they seemed to try to make a wider variety of vehicles into robots. Picture a couple of stoned toy designers truckin' around the city, picking random vehicles, and picturing how they'd turn into robots. Hell, I think I've done that myself. Scooters, submarines, Emergency Personnel Vehicles, helicopters, motorcycles.... all done before, and/or more realistic-looking, than Transformers in toy form. Where Transformers took the prize was in the mythos itself, and the characters on whom it rested. Go-Bots never had the character strength of Transformers. Scooter was a pussy. Leader-1 wasn't really that good of a leader. Cy-Kill was simply an asshole. Optimus Prime was the epitome of leadership. Bumblebee had more heart than most Humans...without having a heart! Starscream, sure a bit of a bitch, but GODDAMN if that guy just never gave up. And Megatron. Best-Villian-Ever!!! Always seemed to me to be in it more for the game than the gain. That said....I'm of the seemingly select few, die-hard, long time fans, who can honestly sit on all the proverbial fences and say that I both loved, but had a lot of problems with, the first film. I wanted the G1 story, but have never had more than a passing problem with a vast re-working of the main story arc....they're all part of the same mythos. I laughed a lot during the first flick, and thought The Beef's comic timing was great, but really didn't like the bumbling, slapstick, low-brow comedy. I loved the robot designs, but hated the 2-hour GM commercial. I can't see shit, or understand anything that's happening during most robot on robot action, but don't care!!! I just stare at a different portion of the screen each time I watch it! I had been waiting to see a live-action TF movie since I was six, and I thank Mikey Bay for finally giving it to me, and not disappointing me more than entertaing the crap outta me....but DAMN YOU MICHAEL BAY!!! DAMN YOUSE ALL TA HELL!!! ...and the sequel is STILL gonna pay for Bay's Phillippino coke habits outta OUR pockets. Deal with it.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 2:22 a.m. CST


    by Motoko Kusanagi

    What about a trailer instead?

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 2:25 a.m. CST


    by Dingbatty

    You are mistaken. The G1 and G2 lines of Transformer figures in the US had a mixture of diecast and plastic parts. I distinctly recall having a Bluestreak/Silverstreak with metal parts when I was a kid in the 80's. The galleries confirm this.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 2:43 a.m. CST

    Comparison -- Transformers Vs Gobots

    by Dingbatty

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 2:55 a.m. CST

    Looks mo' betta than the last film's designs...

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

    At least the Autobots actually look attractive this time around, rather than a confusing mass of spare parts! Let's hope they keep Optimus' faceplate on, as well, so we don't have to look at those freaky robotic lips!

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 3:01 a.m. CST

    the milf lover

    by cloudrider`

    i've seen of most the original j-horror, and never care for the remakes. i'm of the opinion that remakes are useless and unnessesary. cartoons series though, it's a difference beast altogether. and i dont mind them being turned into live action film. just pick a worthy one! he-man??? for pete's sake!

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 3:08 a.m. CST


    by cloudrider`

    if you're sure about the diecast parts, then i stand corrected. as for the transformers vs gobots link you posted, it's gobots as americanized by hasbro and hanna barbera. nothing good can ever come out of those two names. try comparing it with the bandai's original instead.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 3:21 a.m. CST

    Are you AICN genuinely exited about this?

    by Mr Gorilla

    Having seen the first film, and knowing what the second film will be like, are you official AICN writers so thrilled that you are going to report on every single image that appears? Or are you trying to serve a readership that you believe wants to know about this film? I mean, fuck...

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 3:28 a.m. CST

    Anyone else thinking its a tad strange

    by kingoflight

    that they are hunting down toy's to find out about a film?

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 3:29 a.m. CST

    and it's a photo of a toy.

    by cloudrider`

    it's not the exact design used in the film. it's a simplified version of the toy.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 3:45 a.m. CST

    I saw some concept art of sideswipe..

    by TinSpider

    And in true Bay fasion he had fucking wheels for feet. The toys from the first movie looked more like transformers should than their movie counterparts. <br> When I see a transformer robot I should be able to tell what it's alt mode is by giveaway parts. It's almost impossible to guess with the movie fuck ups, and I expect this sequel will be the same.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 4:31 a.m. CST


    by Dingbatty

    The site I posted to is gentle ribbing. Lighten up! I had toys from both lines as a child. Had fun with both.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 4:35 a.m. CST

    Damn You Michael Bay


    Damn You Michael Bay

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 5:26 a.m. CST

    Actually looks like a transformer...

    by MonkeyLord

    I'll be damned. But that is a toy design, after all. In any case, it's too bad the first movie raped my intelligence so hard that I won't be back for a second helping.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 5:42 a.m. CST

    FUCK Gobots where is the ROCK LORDS MOVIE

    by judge dredds fresh undies

    Rocks are where its at.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 6:20 a.m. CST

    Could you PLEASE Stop!?!?!

    by Arcangel2020

    For the love of GOD!! Could you PLEASE stop posting "so-called Spoiler Pics" of Movies like Transformers 2: Revenge of The Fallen and Terminator: Salvation with toy pictures!?!? I thought this was Ain't It Cool News....NOT...Ain't It Cool Toy News!! I don't care about what the toys of a particular Movie I am anxiously awaiting the arrival on look like! I don't give a shit about what the Toys at Toys R Us or a McDonalds McCrappy Meal look like!! Show me something real...Movie Props (not like that shitty Star Trek prop that was revealed last week!!), on location filming photo pics, actual Concept Art!! Thank YOU

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 6:34 a.m. CST

    So they still look like the glued together contents of a silverw

    by FilmCritic3000

    Yawn. Then again, the first movie was cinematic offal as well.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 6:35 a.m. CST


    by CountdeCeredigion

    (That's Welsh btw).<p> Anyone else think it's kinda crappy that Jazz, a silver sports car from the first movie, is replaced in the sequel by Sideswipe, a silver sports car?

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 6:40 a.m. CST

    Surprise surprise

    by ballyhoo

    It's all gray.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 7:15 a.m. CST


    by YeahSureWhatever

    are we gonna get that M.A.S.K. movie?

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 7:27 a.m. CST

    Will the camera be kept still long enough

    by barnaby jones

    to ACTUALLY see the bastard though ?

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 7:44 a.m. CST

    Not a big deal

    by Abominable Snowcone

    If you showed me this image out of context I wouldn't have known if it was a "new" TF image from the new film or an old image from somewhere else. Sideswipe is an autobot, right?

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 7:50 a.m. CST


    by kenjinattix

    I'm just playing...not that much of a stickler to source material...just take the project a little more seriously Bay...thats all I ask.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 8:02 a.m. CST

    fuck yeah!!!

    by BendersShinyAss

    Sideswipe was my very first transformer toy. I watched the show and for some reason, even tho he was a minor character, i thought he was fucking awesome. such a treasured memory. i took him to school and some fucker broke his doors off. but he still clipped into place. <p> toys were so good back then. <p> and he was red but who cares.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 8:23 a.m. CST


    by killianx

    I stand outnerded! :) lol

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 8:30 a.m. CST

    oh but cloudrider

    by killianx

    F-U for trying to paint Americans with such a broad brush sayiing that we think we are "the center of the Universe" Fact of the matter is your people want our American money and therefore Bandai made a cut rate deal with an American Company like Hasbro and apparently completely sold out some of the Concepts for Robo machines/ Go-Bots. So when it finally gets here Go-Bots Toys, Movies etc. seem to suck ass. Dont blame us for that legacy Blame the greedy Asians that sold their creative licence to make a buck!

  • The toys don't mean shit. Stop getting excited over nothing.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 8:48 a.m. CST

    Now if we could just take those gay flames off Prime

    by kenjinattix

    And keep his faceplate up.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 8:48 a.m. CST


    by blackwater

    Bailout of the Fallen. Optimus Prime stares Limits on Executive Compensation in his cold, heartless eyes. AutoWorkers Union comes in supersonic from nowhere and knocks Prime for a loop...

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 8:48 a.m. CST

    the red thing

    by half vader

    you guys up there didn't listen the first time around, did you? I'm not defending Bay, God knows. but he did explain why the first time and it's the one thing he's sorta got a point on (making everything silver or black is another debate). But seeing it has to do with how things photograph and not a toy you guys wouldn't care anyway. Hell, most of you think that stupid Sandy Collora costume is how Batman should look... at least you'll love the Watchmen flashbacks! ;) I was going to go on, but I'm probably already going to be set upon by spluttering nerds or just ignored. <p> Having said all that, Benders it IS pretty devastating when some kid breaks your toy. Even now I'm pretty cranky at the kid who tripped and launched his toy straight into the screen of my 52" XBR LCD (MY toy). Fucking dead pixels from top to bottom. Grrr. Even harder to make out what Bay's robots are up to!

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 8:50 a.m. CST

    Those flames on Prime made him look like a truck Liberachi would

    by kenjinattix

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 8:51 a.m. CST

    Whoops Killianx

    by half vader

    I think you just proved Cloudrider's point! Oh the irony!

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 8:53 a.m. CST

    Half vader I was kidding about the red thing

    by kenjinattix

    If I really wanted to be critical I'd say...HES SUPPOSED TO BE A FERRARI...but I know that Bay sold out the US no Jazz as a Porche or Sideswipe as a Ferrari. I let that guy with Prime being a Peterbuilt instead of a Mac. I just want the story to be less silly...I've decided to make that my only request of this film...seeing as source material is not an option anymore.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 9:06 a.m. CST

    Great! A fiberglass transformer!

    by cornponious

    That will go over well.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 9:08 a.m. CST

    But at least Sideswipe will be built in Kentucky

    by cornponious

    But then, he should be BLUE, right?

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 9:16 a.m. CST

    A $200 million toy advert...

    by BiggusDickus

    ...just as the worst global recession in decades starts to bite. Nice one, Michael.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 9:39 a.m. CST

    yep, actually looks like a transformer...

    by RockLobster800

    good show. The thing is, I didnt mind the first one (although I forgot it about five seconds after leaving the cinema) and even though I couldnt care less, I'll go see this thing for God knows what reason.Cos I know it'll be average. Actually, is Uncron suppoed to be in this one? Cos that might get me vaguely excited.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 9:42 a.m. CST


    by cornponious

    His HEAD is in the REAR of the car?

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 9:59 a.m. CST

    remember that one scene in transformers..

    by soup74

    where the fate of the planet/universe was at stake, yet those zany transformers we're hiding in shia's backyard, so his parents wouldn't get 'mad' at him... that was SO WACKY and FUN! <br><br>sometime big budget producers dont understand the difference between a serious movie with some humor sprinkled in, and just being ridiculous. then when the fans get pissed they figure 'oh, well the dark knight was big, so that means people only like 'Dark' movies... which leads to stupid thinking like "lets make the next superman movie 'dark.'"<br><br>sorry im going off on tangent. and the first transformer movie was really bad. <br><br>(another aside.. the scene on air force one, when frenzy snuck on, and he was about to be discovered, but he transformed into a stereo. one of the top officers looked down and figured.. "oh it just a random stereo left in the middle of air force one... no concern, ill just ignore it." ridiculous.)

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Actually looks pretty good

    by Rickey Henderson

    Not too much mess in the design--Rickey can actually see how it transforms into a car. This ain't all that bad. Still, it's a shame they're still stuck with those awful designs for the other bots from the first movie. Especially Starscream...

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Why are you here?

    by Bob Falfa

    After reading posts on a few talkbacks related to this movie it seems like about 3% of the AICN populace liked the first one. Why exactly are you wasting your time looking at info and pictures of the sequel to a movie you disdain so much? I like this site but if I see a headline w/the the words Charlie and the Chocolate Factory Sequel I will be scrolling on by. I have better things to do w/my life than trying to convince a fan of Movie X that they are stupid for liking Movie X. I would think that after this movie comes out I won’t be seeing any posts about it from those that hated the first one. Unless they are just seeing it for research so they can continue to insult those that actually plunked down a few bucks to see a robot movie with there kids.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Hi...I'm Rickey Henderson, and I still think 3rd person is cool.

    by FuckMichaelBay

    ...dude, get a new act.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Hide in plain sight...?

    by Darth Macchio

    By using a unique concept car whose design is approximated at over $500,000? Talk about a disguise. I would never pay any attention to a car like that gold camaro concept car driving down the road. Nope. Just like I never notice Bently's or Fararri's or Delorean's or Lamberghinni's or any of those super-expensive sports cars. Nobody does! Those $200,000 plus sports cars are simply perfect if you don't want to attract any attention.<P> If you're going to rob a bank and you want to hide your identity behind a mask, you should create a Mission Impossible style mask of George Bush or maybe Brad Pitt. Maybe Bin Laden? You know, somebody famous, that way NO ONE will notice you walking around. Or recognize that you're in disguise because, you never know, George Bush or those guys might actually rob a bank one day!<p>Seriously, Bay needs to stop using these movies so he can drive/keep/whatever these concept cars or whatever the hell is happening. It makes zero fucking sense to use unique concept cars or 1 of 10 in the world concept cars not in standard production for these alien robots to transform into. I mean shit...these guys should be transforming into a fucking Nissan Maxima..Toyota Camry's, etc. Not a car valued at almost a million dollars or a car that isn't produced both of which would draw MUCH undesired attention. Isn't Bay kind of shooting himself in the foot with the dumbass gun here?<p>I thought the exact same thing when T3 had this "Terminatrix" female terminator who then proceeded to not bother to hide the 'terminator' aspect at all so why even have a girl? Why not discard the flesh covering after time-traveling and just nuke the town? (flesh covered bomb plot hole, etc).<p>They need to get rid of these "12 year old boy" mentality having screenwriters who can help but write huge amounts of dumbass into their scripts.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 11:03 a.m. CST

    All the toys from the first movie looked more like a Transformer


    and so does this one. THe movie version will look equally as crappy as the movie versions of the first movie....

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 11:10 a.m. CST


    by Rickey Henderson

    Get a new act? This from the guy whose TB handle is a sad and unoriginal version of MCMVLII's gig? That's cute.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 11:15 a.m. CST

    Once Had Yummy Labia

    by bobjustbob


  • Jan. 12, 2009, 11:16 a.m. CST

    I like how a lot of d-bags on here mention the military in the m

    by andrew coleman

    And how at least he got the military right in T1. Yeah sure that's fine if Bay was making a movie called "US Army" but he made Transformers and he seriously fucked it up bad. I mean those of you who claim to like it and are not 12 explain yourselves. Is it the fat over the top black guy you like? Or the random Australian hacker who was hot so that was fine, but her character served no real purpose. My problem is the movie is called Transformers yet we focus on a shit head who has girl troubles and half a dozen other human assholes whose character plots go no where. Then half way through we get Transformers and then at the end we get a battle which is shot with extreme quick cuts and shaky cam. It wouldn't have been so bad if the final battle was an all out fight between the Transformers but no Bay couldn't resist putting in the pointless military shit heads. That movie is terrible and if you really do like that movie, holly shit man raise your standards. Because when you watch the scene where the Mountain Dew vending machine transformers and you don't roll yours eyes, you need help.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 11:22 a.m. CST


    by Bob Falfa

    I refer to my above post... See ya 6/26/09.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 11:27 a.m. CST

    Darth & Soup...

    by DeeJay

    I "get" your concerns, but you both know that there's a larger issue here (and it transcends Bay). Whenever a film gets such a huge budget, the studio is expecting it to reach a full family audience. For every silly scene in Transformers, there could've been a smarter scene... but that smarter scene would've baffled the average 8-year-old who needs either some robots fightin' or some robots doing some "cool" things to which they can relate. Air Force One protocols are going to fly over their heads, for better or worse. While I agree that the silly scenes detracted from the product, we've got to recognized that--- in lieu of another business model that can pull-off a Transformers live-action film--- this is simply one of the costs of doing business.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 11:33 a.m. CST


    by DeeJay

    ... to be fair, do you see a studio giving the greenlight to a 90-120 minute movie that would come at the cost assumed by your criticisms? I'm not saying those weren't valid gripes... but in the grander scheme of getting the movie produced, are they really moot?

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 11:34 a.m. CST

    "...*aren't* they really moot?"

    by DeeJay

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 11:40 a.m. CST

    Yabbut, DeeJay

    by Immortal_Fish

    Did those same 8-year olds really need the overly long and cringe inducing "Happy Time" scene? In fact, is there anything the body is capable of excreting that was NOT referenced in the film? Sure, 8-year olds love urine and flatulence jokes, but we kinda oughtta draw the line at cumshot for at least a few more years.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 11:51 a.m. CST


    by DeeJay

    ... LOL. Agreed on drawing the line. Still... with a larger budget to play with, I suspect that Bay has already avoided some of the "filler" scenes from the first project. Despite those scenes, you have to admit that the movie had some excellent segments complimented by a very strong message related to freedom and the right to exist. Despite some rather bad scenes, arrival to Earth was beautiful, and Cullen provided a powerful monologue when stating that we humans were still a young race, and needed to find our way. It's just too bad that Prime explained Jazz's language by saying he learned it from the world wide web--- and *didn't* reveal that he learned both the insults and profanity from AICN, in particular.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 11:55 a.m. CST

    Don't be fooled...

    by zyuray2

    .. by the toy design. It will look like a pile of shiny scissors in the movie. I'd bet on it.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 12:07 p.m. CST

    DeeJay, 100% correct and that's how I enjoy it..

    by Darth Macchio ignoring all the shit for the booger-people. It can be tough and there are whole sections of the movie better skipped but much like that notorious edit of "The Phantom Menace" which takes a bloodied cleaver to all the fart and poop jokes and basically anything Jar-Jar and all of the sudden, it's actually a good movie.<p>Cut out the criminal use of The Jesus, anything with Jon Voight (he was so good in Heat and now he's a jackass in everything), every scene with Anthony Anderson, Decepticon comic antics on AirForce1, the 'get their hands of my bush' line, Autobots being all "hip and trendy" and all of the sudden, it's an infinitely better movie. Bay loves that shit tho so he's one of them and every time I see him pushing further and further outside the realm of reality and into the hyper-reality of the somewhat retarded 12 year old boy who spontaneously starts masturbating if he even sees blond hair, becomes mesmerized by a jet flying overhead...basically, the little glasses wearing ritalin challenged, sexually disturbing, karate psycho from "Smokin' Aces". With a coke habit. And no sense of restraint. And all this shit actually gets in the way of making these movies better than they could be...

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Half Vader

    by killianx

    No i don't think i proved his point. Or else you misinterpret my meaning. What I am saying is that Americans, just like anybody, react to whatever product they are given. It has nothing to do with thinking "we are the center of the universe" (which in fact it was China that actually blockaded them selves off for Generations from the rest of the world thinking that same thing) If Bandai sold out their Property and let it become craptastic here in the states dont blame us for that property being thought of as crap!

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 12:48 p.m. CST

    It will look like a pile of shiny scissors

    by BigFatBaby

    hahaha! zyuray2 that's the funniest thing i've read all morning.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 1:24 p.m. CST

    Looks more Transformerish but

    by alienindisguise

    He shoulda been red. Too silver!!!

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 1:31 p.m. CST

    The red Thing

    by killianx

    This "red is hard to Film" thing that bay says is Crap! any freshman Fim student knows how to get around that!

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 1:49 p.m. CST

    Bay can make him Hot Pink for all I care

    by MurderMostFowl

    Just make a good movie this time. I thought it ironic that in the first movie, the movement of characters on the screen were harder to follow than the plot.<BR><BR> It makes the plot from Transformers: the Movie ( Cartoon ) look like Shakespeare. <BR> I was pleased to see this model was more like "real" transformers in the definition of thei face, and simpler body. There's no reason to make everything so insect looking all the time.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 1:56 p.m. CST

    FuckMichaelBay you don't understand Ricky

    by MurderMostFowl

    Due to a tragic accident with a blender and his foreskin, Ricky can't write his own posts. has to have a helper monkey write for him and of course the helper monkey is trying is best, but his sense of professionalism causes him to draw the line at claiming he is the actual author. <BR><BR> So... That's why you see him writing in the 3rd person all the time.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 2:15 p.m. CST

    looks like we getting

    by Phategod1

    Another GM Commercial. You think with The Big 3 needing a bailout Bay would learn his lesson and get some Foreign cars. That Crappy Eddie Griffith movie had a ton of Lambos and This multi-hundred million dollar movie can't get one.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 2:16 p.m. CST


    by Phategod1

    sorry bout that.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 2:20 p.m. CST

    Hi...I'm FuckMichaelBay and I say the same shit over and over

    by Cruel_Kingdom

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 2:22 p.m. CST


    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    What's up, man?<P>Well, when it comes to GM and the Big 3, Bay is ALWAYS going to go American. It's his bread and butter; much like choosing to shoot the majority of his films in US locations.<P>Do you think we'll have as much Don Murphy lunacy this time around?

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 2:23 p.m. CST

    MurderMostFowl you don't understand humor

    by Rickey Henderson

    You clearly wouldn't have typed that last moronic sentence otherwise. Oh, and it's Rickey with an 'e' schmohawk. If you're going to slander, at least spell properly.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 2:24 p.m. CST

    How obsessed must one be to actually name himself...

    by Cruel_Kingdom

    FuckMichaelBay and speak over and over again about how a fucking Transformers movie of all things didn't live up to his expectations? Shit, man, life is hard--this is just a fucking movie based on a robot toy line. Wear a fucking helmet, fucktard. It's not like someone botched a remake of Citizen Kane. THis is a fucking TOY MOVIE, dumbass! Now go back down in the basement and play with your Transformer toys and tell your mommy for the thousandth time how Michael Bay stole your childhood, you douchebag. That is all.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 2:28 p.m. CST

    And where's the Meagan Fox action figure at?

    by Cruel_Kingdom

    Now THAT I'd pay money for.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 2:39 p.m. CST

    Murphy's Done

    by Phategod1

    Bay told Murph to go fuck his self during the making of the 1st so he just pretty much lets him do what he wants and collects a check. I think Murph has moved on to bigger or worst thing Like the 2007 "Blockbuster" "Shoot em Up"

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 2:46 p.m. CST

    the US ARMY


    in the original cartoon, the Decepticons laughed and giggled when humans fired their tanks and missles at them. That was the appeal. Humans had NO affect on the Decepticons at all. They NEEDED the Autobots. This is actually a very important element in making the transformers a powerful story. Your hero is only as strong as your villain. And if the humans can't touch the decepticons then that makes the Autobots that much more powerful heroes. Unfortunately in Bay's world. SHIA LEBEUFF destroys Megatron. Not Optimus Prime, not Bumblebee....a human boy. Because this movie was never about the Transformers it was about "A Boy And His Car" and this was one of the major problems with the movie.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 2:49 p.m. CST


    by Han Cholo

    Can't stress that enough.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 2:50 p.m. CST



    obviously you're just joining the conversation. Lines such as "This isn't Citizen Kane", or "This is a movie based on a toyline" are fucking stupid. I'm not going to bother explaining it to you. Just know it is dumb. So sit back and think about it or read some other posts here.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Bruticus, you're fucking stupid

    by Cruel_Kingdom

    Just know you are dumb.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 3 p.m. CST


    by eric haislar

    I have not been following the conversation at all but, so i am not jumping on you like these other guys. I know that really the only part of the film I found fun was "The Boy and his car stuff". I found it amusing and funny. The action was decent, Effect where incredible, but the plot of the first film was lacking and falls apart at the end. Part of me wishes the film was just about a boy and his car. It might had been a better film.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 3:01 p.m. CST


    by eric haislar

    please ignore the word "but" in the last post. God i would kill for a edit button on this site.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 3:04 p.m. CST

    Don't disrepsect Rickey Henderson

    by YackBacker

    The man just got inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame. Respect.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 3:06 p.m. CST

    I feel you Bruticus

    by Phategod1

    I understand and agree everything you said. The only thing that movie accomplished is appealing to the Lowest common denominator. Take heart in the fact you did not enjoy that movie. Let that be your solace . I know its mine.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 3:16 p.m. CST

    Rick-e-y, my last sentence

    by MurderMostFowl

    Was this:<BR><BR> That's why you see him writing in the 3rd person all the time. <BR><BR> So... uh.... yeah. <BR><BR> Sorry about the 'e' thing. Poor form of me to imply you have no foreskin and go and do a foolish thing like spell your name wrong. ( I kid, I kid ) <BR><BR> I've got no love for FMB, BTW, don't get me wrong. It's just that speaking in the 3rd person was done to death in Seinfeld 10 years ago now. <BR><BR> Seriously, man, it's all in good fun.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 3:23 p.m. CST


    by FuckMichaelBay

    TF did live up to my expectations. I knew it would be shit, and it was...a thought that ran through your parents mind when you were born.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 3:25 p.m. CST


    by FuckMichaelBay

    I've got no love for you either.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 3:27 p.m. CST

    Rickey Henderson...

    by FuckMichaelBay

    ...first off, congratulations on your election to the BBHOF.<br><br>MCMLXXVI wasn't mentioned by the completely un-famous Scriptgirl in one of her reports. I've jumped light years ahead of MCMLXXVI in the fight to shit on Bay and his Bayformers at EVERY moment possible.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 3:29 p.m. CST

    Pissed Off & Bitter

    by FuckMichaelBay

    Seriously dude, we know you're the alter-ego of another Bayformer TB Troll. Give it up.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 3:44 p.m. CST

    FuckMichaelBay is this where we kiss?

    by MurderMostFowl

    Where's my pottery wheel... hmmm... <BR><BR> Ditto. <BR><BR> At least we both hate Michael Bay.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 4:16 p.m. CST

    MurderMostFowl: You can kiss...

    by FuckMichaelBay ass. Michael Bay can kiss my salty taint.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 5:13 p.m. CST


    by worldofwarcraft

    What you do is bash Michael Bay. A man whose work is so silly, yet hugely popular, that it's almost pointless to bash. People who like his stuff probably always will. Much like Bill oReilly. You are like Steven Colbert (with a much more direct style, of course.). MCM though, is creating art. And not some disposable Warholesque trinket-work either. This is a lasting and substantial message sent out on the medium of AICN talkbacks. Though you are good at what you do, too, FMB.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 5:19 p.m. CST

    Where is the GI JOE talkback?

    by Leafar the Lost

    There really isn't a lot more to say about the next Transformers movie (expect for Megan Fox) so I would rather talk about the live action GI Joe movie coming this summer! There is some hot bitch in that one too.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 5:20 p.m. CST


    by FuckMichaelBay


  • Jan. 12, 2009, 6:09 p.m. CST

    bruticus, grow up.

    by ironic_name

    the cartoon sucked. the movie sucked. the concept sucked.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 6:10 p.m. CST

    if FMB is Stephen Colbert...

    by MurderMostFowl

    Can I be his token black friend Alan?

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 6:23 p.m. CST

    GI JOE


    Sorry Hasbro but people are a lot more interested in seeing transformers on the big screen than GI Joe. If you would have made sure Bay did a good job with Transformers that might have been different.<p><p>However, since Transformers only redeeming factor is the special effects. People will assume GI Joe is going to be the same. Unfortunately, there isn't much interesting about a special effects GI Joe movie.<p><p>Your only hope is to stick to the source material, look at the original GI Joe and figure out what made it work. What are the STAPLES of the series. Etc...<P><P> My first advice would be to make sure you NEVER see Cobra Commanders face. But i'm certain you have already made a blunder of that. Cobra Commander should be a terrorist who is only seen on ransom videos and in private meetings but should ALWAYS be wearing his helmet, hiding his face. BUT you're going to show him as a child and then as a young adult. Maybe even show what makes him so cranky. Sadly, audiences don't want to see that. I'd hope more screenwriters realize this type of thing but they don't.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 6:39 p.m. CST


    by finky089

    it actually looks like a Transformer? With a defined head and face? Can this be so? <p> I didn't "embiggen", but it sort of has a head like G1 Unicron, no?

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 6:43 p.m. CST

    Darth Macchio - "Hide in plain site"

    by finky089

    no, no, no. You don't get it. Sure, to you or other 15 year olds, this flashy car may catch your attention, but these guys are alien to Earth. They don't really know what's "hot and flashy". They just "adapt" to fit in. Maybe it ain't perfect, but they're learning. Just liek they'll learn not to pee on Shia Witwicky or his dog, or whatever it was. Give them a chance, okay?

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 8:36 p.m. CST

    Sideswipe rocks!

    by GeorgieBoy

    He was always my favorite transformer (toy). Hardly got a moment in the cartoon though. It was pretty easy to transform them back then. Not like these ridiculous 50-step transformations of todays toys. Crap, I've got better uses of my time than to spend 20 minutes every hour transforming my kid's robots!!

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 8:48 p.m. CST

    Wow Killianx

    by half vader

    I guess we disagree on grammar and context then. Your film student thing is pretty hilarious though. You tell me then exactly how many well-made visually stylish car ads have red cars as opposed to silver and black then, eh?! And tell me the film student secret! I'm intrigued! Red cuts down your options in terms of contrast, hue and highlights. On film anyway (actually, in illustration too) - having said that, Wayne's Lambo looked great on film, but that colour looks like arse in real life. And there's never been a white BMW that didn't look like shit. But now we're getting into highlights on contours rather than the high points of a compound curve... Problem is Bay loves to mix up the metallics and blacks so much it becomes, as our friend zyuray said, a pile of shiny scissors.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 9:03 p.m. CST

    Yeah! I wanna see a fighting robot movie where they look

    by half vader

    just like my broken down bomb! That would be so COOL and exciting and REALISTIC that a giant robot would do that (anyone care to tell me why, even if the good robots disguise themselves, why the bad ones would give a fuck?)! I guess none of you have awoken to the fact that people go to movies to see stuff they can't do, see or own in real life. Like a fucking robot movie! Next you'll all be howling at the discovery of all those flicks where a cop has an awesome sportscar/classic and lives in an incredible apartment... <p> And for all you "logic" fans, hey, there's this moronic scene in the Empire Strikes Back, where even after establishing antigravity as an internal logic and spaceships whizzing around (sound in space regardless), for some reason we're supposed to buy gigantic tanks that WALK over uneven terrain! Shaped like animals! OMG! LOLZ! That's the stupidest thing ever!!!

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 9:15 p.m. CST

    half vader..


    your mom called, it's your nap time

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 10:44 p.m. CST

    Too Transformery

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

    I hope they went with simpler bulkyier designs.<p> And a darker story.<p> And action htat makes sence of the filmic geography.<p>Where the action is, is more important than what the action is.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 10:47 p.m. CST

    I have lost my grammer and spelling skills.

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

    Damn you Michael Bay.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 10:49 p.m. CST


    by FuckMichaelBay

    Do I need to get a virtual restraining order? I'm not into dudes or chicks who want to be called Alan.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 12:36 a.m. CST

    silly scenes

    by soup74

    come on deejay, you're telling me that big budget movies need ridiculous scenes to make their money back.. well, lets see.. top three grossing movies..<br><br>Titanic<br>The Dark Knight<br>Star Wars: A New Hope<br><br>all 3 enjoyable for the whole family. all without slapstick stupidness. Maybe you can point out dumb scenes in them, but nothing comparable to the crap that was in Transformers.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 12:56 a.m. CST

    Looks close to a regular Transformer

    by SlickyVonBoner

    here's hoping Optimus Prime and others got redesigned a little. The casual movie goer won't notice, but the fans will, and Bay could gain a little respect. I won't hold my breath though.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 1:57 a.m. CST


    by Dingbatty

    Buy your kids the Quick Conversion figures from the Transformers Universe line, and the Activator figures from the Animated line. Easy enough for the little ones.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 2:24 a.m. CST

    OK WTF?!!?

    by groorgman

    Im TIRED of this shit being turned into a 2 hour GM commercial! They fucking take the shape of common vehicles so they are disguised not stick out by turning into CONCEPT vehicles! WTF! I guess they didn't get the CONCEPT of Robots in Disguise. Seriously, WHAT...THE...FUCK?

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 4:21 a.m. CST

    I was thinking about Transformers

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Can any of you answer a question for me?<p>Why do the Transformers need to 'transform' at all?<p>This was a part of the first film I did not understand at all. If you are a giant robot and capable of stomping anyone you come across into a sticky puddle of goo, why would you need to disguise yourself? Why wouldn't you just go wherever you pleased and simply sit on anyone who took offense to your presence?<p>Thanks in advance for your help.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 4:25 a.m. CST

    I was thinking about Michael Bay

    by Mr Gorilla

    Can you answer a question for me. Why does Michael Bay keep making movies? This is part of the last ten years that I do not understand at all. If you are a hack whose talent lies not in storytelling, or characterisation, or action, but just in being able to 'shoot pretty', how would you manage to build a career as one of Hollywood's most successful directors? Why wouldn't audiences just realise what you are up to and stop paying to see your films? Thanks in advance for your help.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 4:27 a.m. CST

    I was thinking about Transformers (Part II)

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    I get that these Transformers are from another planet, but who makes them? Aren't they supposed to be machines, and, if so, does that mean there's a giant Transformers factory somewhere?<p>Who owns this factory? How much does a Transformer cost to buy (or can they be leased)?<p>Assuming I'm wrong about the factory, does that mean two Transformers (who love each other very much and are married) make a tiny little baby Transformer?<p>What would dirty, sweaty Transformer sex sound like?<p>Thanks in advance (again) for your help.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 7:48 a.m. CST

    Does Megan Fox grow boobs in this one?

    by half vader


  • Jan. 13, 2009, 7:56 a.m. CST


    by half vader

    you did get the outrageous sarcasm at the end there didn't you? I'm a bit worried your facetious-metre might be turned off. Here's a special secret term for ya: visual metaphor!

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 8:33 a.m. CST

    Mr Gorilla

    by FuckMichaelBay

    He has a career because people are lemmings, and they'll make any piece of shit into a smash. Bay dumbs it down for his audience because he doesn't have enough respect for his them to care about telling a story. He'd rather be a traffic-accident style filmmaker: throw a bunch of shiny lights and noises up on screen and watch everyone slow down and stare. It's bullshit, and thats why he sucks ass.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 8:53 a.m. CST

    Thanks FuckMichaelBay

    by Mr Gorilla

    Thanks for your answer - that's really sorted things out for me! All the best, from Mr Gorilla

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 9:01 a.m. CST

    Allspark! Mine!

    by Rommel Catuncan

    I guess the Allspark does the procreating? (TF sex sounds like a REALLY squeaky bed. Or moving big garbage cans around.). And the Tranformers need to hide because then they'll become government experiments? (As we saw.) Yes, there is also the question of why are they stuck in one disguise if they can choose their form on Earth etc. (Why not turn into Alan Alda or a gay stalkerbot or whatever?) I guess these have been asked and answered many times or you're not supposed to think too hard with this.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 9:25 a.m. CST

    G1 fans are gay

    by palpatinefuckedmydog

    They're never going to be happy until their beloved gay toys looks like a bunch of stacked up washing machines on the screen. Bay improved on the designs and they bitch about the color??

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 9:55 a.m. CST

    Half Vader

    by killianx

    I am obviously not going to waste my time transcribing the different techniques of putting red into a film. There have been several car commercials featuring Red cars!! One that comes to mind was the series of asd with a bunch of black cars and one red one that was standing out from the crowd (the angle of the ad.) Obviously you are some kind of Bay apologist. If Bay, or a retarded monkey for that matter, cant take a 200 million dollars (or whatever dollar budget) and figure out how to film a red car then what good are ya?! And F-u palpatine! G1 one is the only reason we are here talking about a Transformers movie at all! It sure as hell isnt because of Beast Warz! Of course I guess casting Peter Cullen is more evidence that G1 is completely irrelevant! Ok on my way to therapy now

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Yeah, Bay improved the designs...

    by MonkeyLord

    By making almost every character an unintelligible visual mess. And most of them were the same color and overall shape, making it almost impossible to distinguish one from another unless he's actually addressed by name in conversation. Not that there was much conversation to be had... That would imply character development.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 11:34 a.m. CST

    half vader

    by finky089

    I guess she'll have to show us in order to prove it one way or the other, huh? ?

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 11:50 a.m. CST


    by DeeJay

    ... I'll agree with you regarding the first 2 movies you list(and would only say "yipee!" and "yousah" in regard to the 3rd), but would also contend that they were initially marketed to studios as appealing to a different audience than "Transformers." Bay and Speilberg likely pitched this project with the expectation that kids would come to see it... and their marketing & finance teams subsequently crunched numbers with that in mind. Could "Transformers" have been successful if launched from a different business model? Probably so. But it's pretty obvious that they committed to this model early on, and the financiers would likely not take too kindly to a divergence from that plan. As the second movie may have a different expected/target demographic, this installment may take a slightly different approach to any potential silliness.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 2:19 p.m. CST

    As much as

    by palpatinefuckedmydog

    the gay G1 fans bitch and moaned,There weren't enough of them to make any difference in the boxoffice. Regular movie goers enjoyed it enough to make a shit load of money. So the rest of us who liked the movie for what it was(big budget,big action popcorn flick)get a sequel.We win! and fuck y'all whiny G1 fags. Oh and most of you went and paid to see it anyway.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 2:50 p.m. CST


    by Abominable Snowcone

    You're kidding, right? Enjoyable for the whole family? Titanic has an extended sequence where Rose is nekkid, then she screws Jack in the car. Dark Knight has violence that is just beyond the typical comic-book movie variety, what with Joker slamming pencils in skulls and sticking his knife in peoples faces and Harvey getting his face singed off.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 6:21 p.m. CST

    snowcone, deejay..

    by soup74

    we're arguing the same point. I just wish big money producers would realize a movie not having forced kiddy scenes in the them. (and dee jay, number 3 was star wars: a new hope, not phantom menance.. no yipees in that one.)_

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 9:06 p.m. CST

    Did you hear about the new transformer?!

    by groorgman

    It's disguised as a movie franchise and it turns into a huge stinking turd that everyone is going to smell and it smells like roses!

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 10:58 p.m. CST

    Spectacular cop-out, Killianx!

    by half vader

    Yep, "obviously" you're not going to "waste your time" (not holding my breath, Finky)! And read more carefully. I never said there weren't any red car ads for Christ's sake. Obviously you're going to have a harder time of it advertising Ferraris if you don't, for example. Also on the matter of reading more carefully, God knows how you make the incredible guess/leap of me being a Bay apologist (probably the same logic you use to assume I'm American and have seen the red/black car ad). Lord knows I've raved on enough about what an egomaniacal dick he is... and in the same post I even admitted the shiny scissors thing with the black and silver. Try a bit harder, mate. <p> Not everything's completely black & white y'know. Like it is for all those who can't admit the initial choice of a flatnosed truck was a big compromise in service to both the constraints of 2d animation/long lens/less perspective hand-animation headaches and of cheaper toy costs. The longnose for 3d/cg/film makes a lot of fucking sense and erases the constraints that were there previously. And saying that does NOT mean I don't think he fucked up other things, simpleton. I have a harder time understanding changing say, the new Astro Boy's design when there were no reasons/constraints on what they changed in the first place, for example. But hey, if you like red washing machines despite everything, go for it sunshine. And casting Peter Cullen evidence that G1 is irrelevant? Uh, what? Hope your shrink is worth it...

  • Jan. 14, 2009, 4:57 a.m. CST


    by killianx

    Oh i get it! Mate! that must mean you are from England or Australia or something. Or maybe you just listen to the ads for Outback Steakhouse alot. Anyway its not a cop out just common sense that are ways to put a red car in a movie!! I mean if you want a technical eplanation look it up yourself! Does throwa curveball at you...yes. Does it mean that it is impossible especially with todays sophisticated Digital camera?...hell no!!! thats my point! And what the helli is this innane point about a flatnose truck being easier for 2D animation? Dont tel that to the MASK animators of the 80s! The comment about the PC casting was for palpatine who was marginalizing the influnce of G1

  • Jan. 14, 2009, 5:43 a.m. CST

    Searched for "red" and "film"

    by Dingbatty

    and found this interesting blog entry on Raiders:<p><p>If I'm not mistaken, American Beauty also had splashes of red in the center of the screen throughout the movie.

  • Jan. 15, 2009, 4:09 a.m. CST


    by half vader

    Well, to start with it's a defining factor in why it/he looks how it/he looks and my initial view about how G1 Prime's "iconic" look was just a practicality thing and a compromise. So hardly inane (and that's how you spell it too). You obviously know nothing about 2d animation, and your general tone is very young! Drink some of your own medicine and go look it up, simpleton! BTW once again for the slow ones, it doesn't mean it's never done, and I would argue that Optimus showed why it's much more dynamic when you DO stick a nose on the damn thing. Having said that, the flatnose makes for good anthropomorphism in his 'chest'. And no, that's not a curve ball from you, it's copout #2. <p> As far as mate goes, I didn't think you'd get it the first time (considering your initial Americacentric assumption) so I hit you over the head with it. What's even funnier is that you did it again - why would I have seen an outback steakhouse ad if I DON'T live in America? Strike 2, copout 2. <p> Dingbatty, don't make Killian's mistake. I'm NOT talking red in general. And I'm not talking about emotional/narrative use of colour in film either. I do that all the time. And it goes for costume design too. And "telegraphing" (which Spielberg loves). One other trick is putting a small amount of contrasting colour temperature in the frame so the eyes don't fatigue over time and so the colour doesn't lose it's vibrancy. Having a touch of cool or warm colour in there to balance helps it pop. Things stand out more when they have something to contrast. The other thing American filmmakers tend to forget is that when using colour for an emotional response, the west is different to the east, and the same colours mean different things. Cheers. - Mate.