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Friday Brings The Series Finale

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SciFi is coming back with “Stargate: Universe” at some point, but tonight marks the end of “Stargate: Atlantis” as a series. (An “Atlantis” TV-movie is planned.) IGN’s Tory Ireland Mell , self-described as “a HUGE fan of the Stargate franchise,” calls the “Atlantis” finale “45 minutes of not so good television”:
"Enemy at the Gate" starts off with immediate action and keeps this pace throughout the entire episode, but the situations and convenience with which things happen don't lend to this being anything but a mediocre Atlantis episode. It was shot poorly, it had choppy edits, and the story wasn't that good - everything seemed forced. In fact, there were such weird story points that I couldn't believe the contradictions I saw were taking place. Another weak point in this episode was the dialogue. Usually the dialogue written for this show is clean, it flows, and most importantly, it sounds natural. But here it just missed for me, and again I felt let down.
“Cynthia” at SF Universe says:
Those who have watched since day one will be rewarded with a few winks to the past (including a nice nod to the late General Hammond) but you’ll still be able to enjoy it if you’re a more recent convert. My only complaint about the episode is the scope. It plays like a regular episode of the series and I was really hoping for something more grandiose.
Mo Ryan at The Chicago Tribune says:
There are wormholes and crises and nuclear bombs and murderous Wraith and an appearance by Samantha Carter (the always pleasing Amanda Tapping). Teyla gets little or nothing to do, a ship's shields fail (as they so often do) and Rodney spouts technobabble. It's a compendium of elements we've seen on the show dozens of times. It's a competent end to "Atlantis," but it's not much more than that.
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  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:43 p.m. CST

    I forgot they were still making new ones

    by terry1978

    I watch it on Saturdays or Sundays when it's on in syndication or whatever if I'm just at home chilin', but you know.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:52 p.m. CST

    Well, maybe this will free up Mitch Peliggi

    by subtlety

    To be in more than 5 minutes of the next X-files movie.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:59 p.m. CST

    Terrible way to end it.

    by Imagikafan

    It's a mediocre episode, at best. It felt completely rushed. Btw, don't get me started on that lame alternate universe episode from last week. It really did seem like the writers couldn't wait to end this show. Oh well.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:59 p.m. CST


    by HapaPapa72

    Is this what it feels like to be third? Hmm.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:59 p.m. CST

    Or not.

    by HapaPapa72

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:26 p.m. CST

    "Vegas" was the better of the two episodes...

    by Johnny Smith

    ...and the best episode since season 3's "Common Ground".

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:27 p.m. CST

    This franchise is still going?

    by donkey_lasher

    I never could get into SG1. I guess I just liked the film too much and thought it would end up like the Highlander TV series. I think I was kind of hoping for a proper sequel to the movie.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:53 p.m. CST

    The problem

    by Shivv

    is that this episode deserved to be a two parter. I get the feeling that it was even written as such, because it's pretty clear where part one would have ended. <p>I'm sad to see this show go. Rodney McKay is a great character that I would love to see land on Stargate Universe

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 5:23 p.m. CST


    by Blackguard

    The Vegas episode would have been better if only HALF of it was in the alt. universe. Leaving the "other universe" reference at the end was lame. <p> Damn I downloaded the last episode. I didn't realize it WAS the last. I feel robbed. It did seem rushed though. Oh well. Thanks Sci-Fi for canceling ANOTHER show I liked.....

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 5:35 p.m. CST


    by jimmy rabbitte

    zzzzz...zzzzz... wha? huh? what was that? oh... nothing... zzzzz...zzzzz...zzzzz...

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 5:39 p.m. CST

    Seen It. Thank You Canada and the Internet

    by fedrich519

    Gotta love the magic of foreign countries, broadcast rights, and an internet connection.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 6:05 p.m. CST

    Robert Carlyle in "Stargate

    by Anna Valerious

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 6:07 p.m. CST

    Damn enter button.

    by Anna Valerious

    As I was saying, Robert Carlyle is one good reason to get hooked on the "Stargate" franchise. Richard Dean Anderson...well, if you're a middle aged cartoon twin (Either straight or lesbian), I can see the attraction. ;)

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 6:09 p.m. CST

    dont expect much this season.

    by dioxholster

    Atlantis overall was the best show around. clearly just like SG-1 at the end, everything is rushed because it got canceled; storylines see compromise.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 6:11 p.m. CST

    Richard Dean Anderson

    by dioxholster

    the third SG-1 movie is gonna be Jack-centric. its all gonna be about jack O'Neil so watch out.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 6:13 p.m. CST

    Sad sad ending

    by lostbat

    So spare us now the TV movies and let Atlantis rest in peace. a disappointed fan:-(((

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 6:13 p.m. CST

    I really hope that someday

    by dioxholster

    they resurrect it and make another season. or make a movie like serenity im sure the name stargate atlantis might attract some audience.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 6:15 p.m. CST

    its not really the end

    by dioxholster

    there is still movies for Atlantis so in reality its not the last episode its just the last 40 minute episode

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 6:25 p.m. CST

    it cant be worse than First Contact

    by dioxholster

    but i wish they put more effort this season into making a memorable one to prove to sci fi what they were missing out on. too bad. hope the movies are good.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 6:31 p.m. CST

    Surprised to see it go

    by Don Lockwood

    I was surprised when it was cancelled. It's not like it suffers from the same problem SG-1 did in paying people who weren't even on the show anymore. I guess they saw the sales of the SG-1 movies and figured they could do the same thing here. Still, I think it was too soon and I'm sorry to see this entertaining-if-not-great show gone.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 6:35 p.m. CST

    Needs more Tori Higginson

    by JackDonkey

    Who is way hotter than Tapping

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 6:45 p.m. CST

    Lemons for McKay

    by Blackguard

    I am going to miss it. I liked the relationships that formed in the show. At first McKay and Sheppard didn't get along and Ronan was not a team player. Now they are good friends. I liked that progression. They need a new Stargate show with McKay, Sheppard, Ronan, Mitchell (SG1) and maybe Vala. Have some SG1 and Atlantis guest stars from time to time too. Like a Stargat ALL STARS! I would watch THAT!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 6:51 p.m. CST

    Blackguard - STARGATE COMMAND

    by dioxholster

    another spin-off should be done that would follow the events after stargate universe first episode and call it stargate command.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 6:52 p.m. CST


    by Oldnewbie

    Hmm, from the reviews it sounds like this was not meant to be a series finale and that Sci-fi once again surprised a successful show staff with a mid-season "You're done; wrap it up". Worse, for me anyway, is that this past season was one of the best. The new character developments, the getting-more-interesting relationship with Wraith Todd... loads of potential that will never be given it's due in the planned direct to DVD releases. Oh well, guess I should have learned from "Farscape" to never trust the PTB at Scu-fi but... damn I guess I am a fool for punishment!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 7:11 p.m. CST


    by oceanic86

    people actually pretend like the stargate shows are worth a damn, then? seriously, the times i've actually watched more than 2 minutes of either series, i've had to wonder aloud, "battlestar galactica is on the same channel as these?"

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 7:23 p.m. CST

    SGA: Started with a meh. Ended with a meh.

    by Amy Chasing

    Seasons 2 & 3 were getting there, with new discoveries about the Ancients and Replicators, and when they were discovering interesting stuff about the Wraith it started to lend some credibility to what was otherwise a really bad idea as the show's main villain (after Goauld and even Ori, the Wraith just never cut it for me - they always seemed like horror movie monsters, not a civilisation that could pose a threat to the Ancients - but ah well). <P> But seasons 1, 4 & 5 - muddled affairs that made me see just how good a show SG-1 used to be. <P> SPOILER - who else thought the "Wormhole Drive" idea was so rushed it ruined the episode (even though the calculations are extremely difficult, the power requirements enormous, and it's never been tested before - Atlantis got it to work in under an hour). Nuked the fridge anyone? <P> Now they have Wormhole Drive they can start Stargate: Colonisation. Theoretically they can grab a bunch of houses, send them through a wormhole and set up communities on other planets now. I mean you wouldn't want a ship with Wormhole Drive - think of all the space in between you'll miss seeing. Getting there is half the fun after all (damn I miss old Star Trek).

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 7:27 p.m. CST

    SGA: Started with a meh. Ended with a meh.

    by Amy Chasing

    Seasons 2 & 3 were getting there, with new discoveries about the Ancients and Replicators, and when they were discovering interesting stuff about the Wraith it started to lend some credibility to what was otherwise a really bad idea as the show's main villain (after Goauld and even Ori, the Wraith just never cut it for me - they always seemed like horror movie monsters, not a civilisation that could pose a threat to the Ancients - but ah well). <P> But seasons 1, 4 & 5 - muddled affairs that made me see just how good a show SG-1 used to be. <P> SPOILER - who else thought the "Wormhole Drive" idea was so rushed it ruined the episode (even though the calculations are extremely difficult, the power requirements enormous, and it's never been tested before - Atlantis got it to work in under an hour). Nuked the fridge anyone? <P> Now they have Wormhole Drive they can start Stargate: Colonisation. Theoretically they can grab a bunch of houses, send them through a wormhole and set up communities on other planets now. I mean you wouldn't want a ship with Wormhole Drive - think of all the space in between you'll miss seeing. Getting there is half the fun after all (damn I miss old Star Trek).

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 7:28 p.m. CST

    sorry for the double-post BTW (damn satellite broadband)

    by Amy Chasing

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 7:35 p.m. CST

    imho, Atlantis hurts Stargate

    by ulcer

    I had never watched SG-1 when I began to watch Atlantis. Now that I've begun catching up on SG-1, working backward. I realize now how a completely different and under-rated show SG-1 was. They never seem to have any budget on Atlantis, and they never seem to do anything with their characters, or even like them. The writing is non-existant; it's simply applying formulas and re-using the Vancouver forest to kill some time. It's got a couple of good characters but never done anything with them -- it's completely forgettable. SG-1 deserves some more respect, including the last to 'farscape SG-1' seasons.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 8:14 p.m. CST

    Desmond in Lost, Shirley Manson in Terminator AND

    by A G

    Robert Carlyle in Stargate. Sci-Fi becomes Scottish!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 8:24 p.m. CST

    I'll miss it

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    more than I thought I'd like it when it started.<p> Not looking forward to Stargate Voyager: 90210

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 8:47 p.m. CST

    Well I'll miss it, but...

    by MurderMostFowl

    only for the potential it had, not for what we ended up with. NEarly all of the attempts ad good deeper story arcs ended up in foolishness. Even the "convert the wraith so they can eat" arc was actually a direct ripoff of SG-1's "tritonan" cure for the jaffa.<BR> I thought the wraith stated out as a great enemy but they never developed them, they never gave them a government, or any other plan for themselves. Of course the whole premise is flawed, in that a carnivorous society + intelligence yeilds FARMING. They only did one episode I think where any humans were actually raised as farm animals. They could have explored that one so much deeper, but that would take it away from bubblegum pop scifi and scare people I guess.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 8:53 p.m. CST

    I guess I like it mostly because it was pulp

    by MurderMostFowl

    It was good clean fun, all around not bad in all the categories... story, acting, effects, etc... not really trying hard, but not failing either. <BR> What made me saddest is that when SG-1 started going down hill ( the basic shark jumping of killing Daniel though they recovered ok I guess ), but the definitive "oh we got picked up again? oh crap... pull out all your old scripts people!" After season... uh... 5 was it? Once they hunted down al lthe system lords. It was over. <BR> So like I was saying at this point in SG-1's history is when SG-A is plodding along, but the writers don't say to themselves, we have this new universe to write for lets really hit them out of the park, they said "oh we have a new series, lets see how we can phone it all in and have it be just like SG-1 stories and to change any of that formular becuase people like it" <BR><BR> Grumble grumble

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 8:59 p.m. CST

    Thanks Herc for the Stargate post!

    by snowpuff

    I have heard the penultimate episode "Vegas" was actually really good.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:07 p.m. CST

    Vegas is good if...

    by Amy Chasing

    You've never seen a sci-fi show with a parallel universe episode. It's set on Earth (hence the title), there's alot of hard rock music to make it different from other episodes, and an alternate version of a main character is a run-down detective trying to solve a bunch of murders instead of an amazing military hero guy. <P> Been done before you say? I'm sure the producers would say that's the point - it's an homage to crime/noir type stories. Whether you think it's done with enough style to pull it off, or just come across as a pathetic rip-off, is up to you.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:15 p.m. CST

    This show was absolutely stupid BECAUSE:

    by Bob Cryptonight

    They start out with a cool premise using The Wraith as villains...their twisted existence, culture etc. But then they fuck it up by making the Wraith ordinary villains who FLY SPACESHIPS!! It is so laughable to think of these fiends with long fingernails and vampire-like features going to flight school and learning to fly ships and dogfight, etc!! I they design the instruments so that their creepy claws don't get in the way? And if they have flying ships, then they must drive cars on their homeworld, right? Can you see a Wraith out there waxing his car on the weekend? This ss a perfect example of how writers don't think out a premise. Of course, it's the Sci-Fi channel, so they probably don't pay them enough to bother.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:32 p.m. CST

    I loved CSI: Atlantis....

    by Bill Clay

    The Vegas homage should have been the series finale. Ending the series in an alternate universe would have made fanboy heads explode! The big Wraith invasion of Earth could have been saved for the Atlantis direct-to-DVD movie.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:48 p.m. CST

    Direct-to-DVD Spoilers

    by Alientoast

    Well the last episode did leave some storylines open: Todd is still alive, the Evil Asgard are still out there, Atlantis is on Earth. How's this for an idea: A gouald system lord Larva (Baal?) finds a wraith and infests him. The combination results in a super powered wraith-gouald hybrid.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:52 p.m. CST


    by Melvin_Pelvis

    has started to rely on time travel and alternate dimensions too much the last few seasons of both shows.<p> Even though SG1 used alt dimension in the first season. It didn't revisit that trope or time travel for a couple seasons.<br> And then it was used very sparangly until like the 7th or 8th season.<br> Since then both shows started relying on them more and more.<p> I wonder if this would be reflected in the writing staff or a change in show runners....

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 12:09 a.m. CST

    Where was Weir?

    by cooper2000

    They never should have gotten rid of Tori Higginson. She was missed. Pretty good finale. Was Tapping wearing a wig?

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 12:24 a.m. CST


    by wuher da brewer

    Combination of Yuzzhan Vong and Vampires?

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 12:42 a.m. CST

    Yes, Bob Cryptonight...

    by maxwell's hammer

    ...the ONLY reason SG:A was dumb was because of the spaceship-flying vampires. That was the ONLY reason.<BR> <BR> Not one other single thing about this show was dumb.<BR> <BR> I can't believe there are LOST and Heroes haters, and barely a smattering of impotent trolls on this talkback. Goodness me.

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 2:18 a.m. CST

    What a terrible series

    by kwisatzhaderach

    I mean, just really awful. To be expected though when the source material is from Roland Emmerich.

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 2:19 a.m. CST

    Clean out the crap, bring on BSG

    by Heckles

    Once BSG is over Sci-Fi will have nothing. Maybe Caprica will be worth watching.

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 2:45 a.m. CST

    Shit reviews. And here's why

    by V'Shael

    "Plays like a regular episode" - they didn't know the show was being cancelled in time to do a broad scope ending. Even so, it was better than SG-1's "Unending". <p> "Shot poorly" "Choppy edits" - Wow, you watched the leaked episode on BitTorrent to get your review in early. Surprised you didn't complain about the text that kept appearing saying "Temp VFX" <p>

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 2:48 a.m. CST

    It had its moments

    by Auriellis

    Atlantis was the kind of show that had great little moments but the overarcing plots weren't that interesting. I never found the Wraith compelling as a villain. In fact, the Replicators 2.0 were more interesting as villains than the Wraith. Plus McKay was probably the only constantly entertaining character on the show. Teyla was boring. Ronin was pretty much good for cool fight scenes and the occasional one liner. Sheppard was only good as the Atlantis version of Jack O'Neil and then sparingly. And the ever changing commanders of Atlantis was trying. I know I'll miss aspects of Atlantis, but it says a lot when I spent most of the past season fast forwarding through most episodes.

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 2:53 a.m. CST

    Never watched an episode, but...

    by Heckles

    ...if the powers-that-be didn't get a chance for a proper send off then I can see this so-called finale being a let down. But really, what could they have come up with? It's a second tier Stargate show. I would take the 'Tuvix' episode of Voyager over and over rather than this turd of a show. And that's just based on the few previews I've seen for it. But I would still wager I have a handle on the series. And I could conclude that Farscape makes Atlantis look like Andromeda. Which is all based on nothing. The only good sci-fi out there is BSG, with Deep Space Nine before it.

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 6:09 a.m. CST

    It was ok

    by darquelyte

    Both the series and the finale. The series never lived up to its potential, and the finale was hurried because they were told they had been canceled after the season had been planned and they had to compress the season and the finale to this. So, of course the finale had to feature "short cuts" to get the ending that they wanted as there just wasn't time to fully develop the ending that they probably wanted. What I want to know now is, when will Rachel (Teyla) show off that smoking hot bod in a nude scene?

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 6:32 a.m. CST

    How about...

    by donkey_lasher

    A new movie starring Kurt Russell and James Spader? Dean Devlin must be cursing MGM.

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 7:39 a.m. CST

    It's been on for 5 seasons?

    by second cousin of phartegod

    Shit. I thought Atlantis aired this past season and failed miserably, like that one show on NBC with Christian Slater killing people.

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 7:48 a.m. CST

    Teyla had some decent fight scenes but was eclipsed by Ronin.

    by EvilWizardGlick

    She managed some nice stick work. but the whole series kind of sucked overall. Imagine if they managed to find three functioning ZPM's and lit Atlantis up to it's full potential. Or had some skimpier outfits for the ladies. With the Wraith we see a seeming unkillable enemy degenerate into a couple of rounds to kill.

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 7:49 a.m. CST

    Vegas episode best of whole series.

    by EvilWizardGlick

    They chose to spend some money on it.

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 7:53 a.m. CST

    Amy Chasing, Wormhole drive Book reminder

    by EvilWizardGlick

    I seem to recall some scifi book where a wormhole was discovered just beyond Mars. I think. Anytway the closest planet on the other side of the wormhole gets colonized but our solar system never gets explored. And then something attacks from beyond Pluto. Can't recall the name now, good story though.

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 8:30 a.m. CST

    Personally, I loved SGA

    by MonkeyLord

    I thought at its peak, it was hands down better than SG1 ever was. But the entire 5th season has been so extremely meh... Very few real arcing story lines, rushed character development, episodes that *should* have been 2 or 3 installments crunched into a single hour, so on and so forth. And the series finale just combined all these faults into one. I was extremely disappointed... It felt as if one day, someone walked onto the set and said "oh, by the way, this will be the last episode, the series has been cancelled. Let's try and get these scenes filmed before lunch, shall we? Great! Caio!" It was a huge let down, and I feel that what was one of the best things to come out of the sci-fi channel has been frittered away to make room for Stargate: Universe... which sounds like Battlestar Galactica meets Star Trek Voyager. :|

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 9:03 a.m. CST

    There IS a God afterall!!

    by Arcangel2020

    Good Bye & Good Riddance to the Stargate: Atlantis! This series along with all the other Stargate series is one of the many reasons why The Sci Fi Channel (along with really poor programming choices and shitty "Made for" Sci Fi Channel Movies, lack of faith in past shows that show real promise but get cancelled after one season...just like Fox Network..not to mention showing Wrestling on Tuesday nights!!) really sucks and really shows that there is NO appreciation or respect towards its network viewers. Sorry, but this show was gawd awful and I am surprised that it lasted as long as it did Ohhhhhh but WAIT..Stargate "Universe" is coming soon...I..can..hardly...wait!! (said with much derision and saracasim)

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 9:14 a.m. CST

    Lame finale

    by Brody77

    Felt too convenient, too rushed and too eager to please. Best bit was the nod to Hammond. Are you trying to tell me there'd be an Earth invasion and SG1 would be nowhere to be found? Yeah right. And the cop out Ronin death? It deserved a better send off than this, it's on a par with the god awful Buffy finale. (don't start me on Angel)

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 9:21 a.m. CST

    Well It's Pretty Clear.....

    by Real Deal

    They're are setting up the real ending for the DVD movie. Just like they did with SG1. Only this one was pretty much like the first half of a 2 parter or cliff hanger. They probably added the last scene on after they found out about the cancelation. Well they'd better come out with that DVD movie soon!

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 9:44 a.m. CST

    Arcangel2020, Original was a movie channel series, with controve

    by EvilWizardGlick

    Stargate was originally on something like HBO got canceled and wound up on Scifi. But if I remember the original writer chose not to be involved, or just plain squeezed out, and did not like the direction the show was going. And here we are today with cloned plots from way back when.

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 10:20 a.m. CST


    by fzammetti

    I love Atlantis. 100% love it. But I agree with everyone that says this wasn't a good finale. It was a decent enough episode overall, and I think if it was two hours it would have made an excellent mid-season two-parter. But as a series finale, ugh, not very good at all.

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 10:56 a.m. CST

    The General Hammond

    by Ravyn

    Good nod to Don S. Davis. i think it was the best part of the show.

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Interesting comments

    by snowpuff

    Bob Cryptonight - LOL<br> <br> Alientoast - Interesting idea about a Goa'uld Wraith.<br> <br> V'Shael - Wow, good point.

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 12:41 p.m. CST

    2 1/2 Good Seasons

    by TinkerTIW

    ...spread out over 5. Some occasional gems, but too many snoozers - especially toward the end. Flannigan, Momoa, Nykul and Hewlett did a really nice job, but they really screwed up the cast chemistry over the years - 86'ing Higginson was the worst idea. The show never recovered. Losing Paul McGillion an inspired move, too. (The surprise death of a major character can give a series a nice jolt, but it should have been Teyla. Any show featuring Luttrell meant it was time to tune out.) Picardo? Great on Voyager, a yawn here. Tapping? Terrific on SG1, a forced fit with nothing to do here. Always knew it would be a long episode if it started with the cast walking through a forest, bantering until surrounded just in time for the teaser fade-out. The thing ran its course, forget the DVD movies.

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 1:27 p.m. CST

    Now for the Network Rename

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    The Mansqueto Channel<p> 24/7 Mansqueto programming<p> All Mansqueto. All the Time.

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Melvin I'm glad someone else loves Mansquito

    by MurderMostFowl

    God I love making fun of that show... just the title even. I never actually watched the show but it epitomized everything that is wrong with the Sc Fi channel

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 3:03 p.m. CST

    Ronin's gun

    by ulcer

    Ronin's gun embodies to me the cheapness of the writing of this show. Why Atlantis go around with automatic guns with bullets, firing hundreds of bullets at Wraith that have armor and can heal anyway? You're sending your doctors and scientists on missions with no armor and waterguns... Why hasn't Atlantis ever tried to get more lazer guns like the one Ronin's has?

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 3:55 p.m. CST

    SG-1 during invasion

    by Alientoast

    "Are you trying to tell me there'd be an Earth invasion and SG1 would be nowhere to be found?"...there was a blink or you miss it line about the Odyssey being on a super-duper top secret mission. Could have easily been an SG-1 type mission.

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 5:05 p.m. CST


    by evil twin

    or at last Farscape SG-1.

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 5:45 p.m. CST

    maxwell's hammer

    by Bob Cryptonight

    WTF are you talking about? I didn't say anything about there being ONLY ONE reason the show was dumb. There were plenty of stupid aspects to the show (some that a viewer could ignore given the basic cable origins of the show)...but the main villains were probably the worst example of the writers biting off more than they could chew. Also, many of the episodes were just replays of the same premise over and over again (not just formula: actually repetitive plot ideas simply redressed for a new episode). They had a good idea going into the series, but the writing fairly uninspired.

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 5:52 p.m. CST

    I have yet to meet someone who has seen Stargate...

    by Leafar the Lost

    ...Atlantis. I remember reading that Stargate: SG1 had been on the air for 10 years, and I was shocked. Did someone at Sci/Fi forget it was still on? Were the ratings for the whole network so low that it didn't matter what was on Friday nights? Over the years I would try to watch an episode of Stargate, just to see why it was still on, and I could not watch more than a few minutes. It was so unwatchable. So boring and bland. It felt like it was made in Canada. It truly surprised me that they made a spinoff of Stargate. Who the hell was watching this shit anyway? I can't wait for Battlestar Galactica...

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 6:07 p.m. CST

    stargate's 90s pilot had full hairy bush and titties

    by ironic_name

    and macguyver.

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 6:12 p.m. CST


    by ironic_name <P>

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 7:18 p.m. CST

    Alright V'Shael and others, I'll bite...

    by Amy Chasing

    "they didn't know the show was being cancelled in time to do a broad scope ending." - weeeeell, we don't know that do we. I mean, I knew they were cancelled going into season 5 and they still had time to do 20 episodes, of which a few are those charater-centric (usually Ronon) "lets unsubtlely give this character some more back-story" episodes, and a couple were Dr Keller/McKay love stories. Easily could have dropped at least one of those to make the last episode a two-parter. And they could have had a previous episode at least mention the Wormhole Drive. That sort of technology really changes the Stargate universe, and they used it as a deus ex machina (and one that they built up as being virtually impossible to work - but nevertheless it did, first time out of the box, and it saves the day). C'mon, that was just bad. To defend that is like defending nuke the fridge. <P> "Even so, it was better than SG-1's "Unending"." - I agree with this, but I'm not a fan of Farscape SG-1 so it's a moot point.

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 8:54 p.m. CST

    Leafer *sigh*

    by WickedJacob

    The first six seasons of stargate premiered on showtime and many of them were great. The characters were well written, the alien/transplanted cultures were well thought-out (not just another mideval village in a vancouver forest), and the stories were well paced. They had no space ships of their own for a long time, which forced the storylines to be much smaller and more character driven (not "Juno" or anything, but brilliant in comparison to later SG1). I don't blame you for thinking what you do of stargate, but it does make me a little sad that people don't realize how fresh and original this show was when it first started.

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 9:44 p.m. CST

    the show had great sfx and space battles, that it.

    by Boomers_Lips

    the episode very "Voyager" rushed in terms of everything! There's alot of unfinished business left back in the Prgasus Galaxy: Dr. Weir and her replicator buddies are still out there waiting for someone to reactivate them, the evil Asgard are still out there too, the Wraith and Michael too. And I doubt they can ever return back, they used up alot of the ZPMs getting to earth and fighting the super-hive ship. What happened to Teylas baby and her man??

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 10:14 p.m. CST

    Ulcer...Ronin's lazergun..

    by Stunt Vocalist 709

    A good point. Let's take it further. The Goauld Zat weapon kills with two shots. Yet the Atlantis SG team didn't bother to bring even one of them to use on the super-tough Wraith. That was a huge "WTF?" to me from the start. Still, I've enjoyed Atlantis, though not as much or as often as SG:1.

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 10:18 p.m. CST

    Leafer- SG-1's longevity

    by TheSecondQuest

    SG-1 had 5 seasons on Showtime and started building up a new story-arc and major villian during th 5th. Then showtime decided to drop it (or decided to allow SFC to buy it since Showtime kinda dumped all their sci-fi shows at the time) and SFC picked it up for Season 6. The idea was SFC would get that final season and all the reruns (except for Season 5 which was in syndication that initial year, but which they would get the following), and after Season 6 they were going to make an SG-1 movie- the season 6 finale was meant to set it up, and the movie would, in turn, launch the Atlantis spin-off. But suddenly SG-1 was SFC's top-rated show- pulling in far better numbers than their previous top-program, Farscape (and given that Farscape cost more to produce, this was a contributing factor to Farscape's premature demise). So the decision was made to make a 7th season. They stretched a few plotpoints out, added some new elements, and much of the once-to-be SG-1 movie became the Season 7 2-hour finale. <p>Then, as ratings remained great, a decision was made to keep SG-1 for an 8th season to anchor the debut of Atlantis's first season as well as the did-well-as-a-miniseries Battlestar Galactica. this way SFC had a proven performer as a lead-in/lure for it's two newest shows. Atlantis was a hit, pulling in the same numbers, or just under, as SG-1. BSG eventually evolved into what it is today, and SFC had it's best friday lineup ever (one that fans still give them well-known crap over breaking up for the past couple seasons). <p>Season 8 pretty much wrapped SG-1 up, but then ratings were still very good. they knew Anderson would be leaving so they decided to replace SG-1 with a second spin-off series: Stargate Command, which would introduce Browder's character, etc. However, SFC wanted to keep both the marketing power of the SG-1 brand and go for the North American record for longest running Sci-fi show, so they had Stargate Command become SG-1 Season 9. And, once again, ratings remained good (though declining as DVR became a more prominent issue, as the Stargate shows were almost always ranked towards the top of shows most DVR'd- when factoring in delayed viewings, for example, Atlantis's ratings nearly doubled from the typical live-viewing statistic) and the quality of the show was good (IMO, Season 9 is arguably the finests eason they've produced, and hands down the most well plotted season). <p>Season 10 got the go-ahead, and things were looking up as SG-1 hit it's 200th episode and, a few later, surpassed the X-Files in length. Things were gearing up for the 11th season being SG-1's final one, but SFC cancelled it at the last moment (they got their record, IMO, and felt they were done with it)- it turns out the show was getting too costly for SFC because of the decision to retain the SG-1 name, all the cast and crew still got their seasonal contract increases from what had built up over the past 8 seasons. Had they renamed the show as Stargate Command, they would have ha to start things over for many people and the show, ironically, would probbaly have made it to it's proper conclusiom. Instead they went to the DVD movie route (as SG-1 is, in their own words, MGM's most important franchise after Bond due to how well it does in DVD sales domestically and overseas).

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 10:22 p.m. CST

    Stunt V- Ronon's gun and Zats

    by TheSecondQuest

    Ronon's gun apparently comes from the Traveler faction, which were mor eopportunistic allies, so it's unlikely Atlantis would be able to get more of them.<p>The producers of Atlantis consciously decided not to use Zat guns on Atlantis as one means to differeniate the show from SG-1. Thus they had things like Wraith stunners and Ronon's gun that you wouldn't see used on SG-1, etc.

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 10:50 p.m. CST


    by Stunt Vocalist 709

    You are right about the producers and their decisions. A hole that large in the plot had to be on purpose. That was clear to me from the start, yet it struck me as a bad decision and lazy writing. Still does. Makes no sense for an expiditionary force such as Atlantis not try every defensive technology they knew about. Should have tried them and had them fail. Or even better, Zats energy strengthen the Wraith. Whatever... Should have been addressed. Just sayin'...

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 10:57 p.m. CST


    by Stunt Vocalist 709

    Thanks for the history lesson in the other post. Very interesting how things developed.

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 11:29 p.m. CST

    Larrin (the Traveller chick) was hot!

    by Boomers_Lips

    shame she was not on more than 2 episodes.

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 11:35 p.m. CST

    poor Zelenka never got a proper story.

    by Boomers_Lips

    he was one of my favorites, especially during scenes when he and Rodney would bicker it Zelenka not being smart enough to understand stuff. Zelenka ended up saving the day by completing Rodneys work on the Wormhole Drive.

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 12:37 a.m. CST

    the last ep was ok, for a regular ep.

    by jax9999

    I think it was a bit rushed, it wasn't given the proper treatment a last ep should be given. Sure they got home, but the show wasn't really about them getting home. Taking Atlantis to Earth wasn't really in theme. also, was it just me or did Vegas look like the crew were auditioning for CSI?

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 2:34 a.m. CST

    what will happen to the actors now??

    by Boomers_Lips

    most of them will probably end up on soap operas or low budget sci-fi movies.

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 4:46 a.m. CST

    by Supermans

    Well, I happened to like the episode a lot and felt it was a fitting end to the show. I would love to see an Atlantis movie or a mix of SG-1 and Atlantis characters in a made for DVD movie.. Stargate will be missed and hopefully they can get Stargate command up and running (yes I know a third spinoff) so we can all get our stargate fix..

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 4:50 a.m. CST


    by Melvin_Pelvis

    Michael's dead<p> Teyla let him fall from one of the Atlantis towers onto a courtyard below.<p> Good riddance to an annoying whiny villain

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 5:16 a.m. CST

    Ronin's gun

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    they addresed this<p> The travelers, the folks that their entire civilization had lived on ships for generations had them.<br> But aparantly they were rare, since Atlantis never traded for them.<p> Ronan got his while he was a runner, probably took it off a wraith he killed.<br> IIRC he once said he had no idea what race made it, where it came from originally, and that he'd never seen another.<p> I have no idea why they didn't bring zats to atlantis, but they've had wraith stunners from at least the begining of the 2nd season.<p> As to why they continue to use P90's and other human weapons, they addresed this in a episode of SG1.<br> A Gauld posing as a Jaffa leader made light of human weapons, O'neal had Carter demonstrate the P90 vs a Staff weapon.<br> The used a swinging log as a target.<br> A Jaffa shoots it, leaves a smoking scorch mark, log keeps swinging.<br> IIRC, he shoots it a couple times, and there are noticable pauses between shots as the weapon recycles / recharges, or maybe it's just aiming time.<br> More scorch marks and smoke.<br> Log keeps swinging<p> Carter's turn, she aims and pops it with a round, no smoke, no scorch, but the log has changed trajectory.<p> The Gauld acting as the Jaffa rebellion leader looks smug.<p> Carter aims again, pop, pop, pop<p> Logs swinging wildly and the back is splintered.<p> O'Neal nods at Carter, she switches to full auto and cuts the log in half in less time than the Jaffa fired his 3 shots.<p> O'Neal says something like, the staff weapons are flashy weapons of terror and that the human weapons are weapons of war.<p> But given a chance, I'd want the P90 and a gun like Ronins as a backup

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 5:20 a.m. CST

    RE: what will happen to the actors now??

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    The guy who plays Ronin was asaulted in a bar a month or so ago.<br> He was hit in the face with a bar mug and required 140 or more stitches.<p> Haven't heard anything since, what procedures they may have to do.<br> I imagine the 140 after the attack, were just to close the wound and not the final cosmetic treatment.<p> That may be a career ending injury

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 5:52 a.m. CST

    Sorry but Vegas was shit...

    by Lemming

    I'm a Stargate fan. I love the easy-going nature of the show, the humour, the unapologetic planet-of-the-week format ( no longer a cliche given nothing else on TV does that anymore).<p>Vegas felt like a love letter to CSI - which I find dull as fuck - and I turned it off about halfway through. Get CSI out of my SF, kthxbai.

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 8:11 a.m. CST

    interesting about the P90 guns

    by ulcer

    but the characters are always shooting, shooting shooting, thousands of bullets, and it has no effect on the enemies they encounter. it's just wasteful and loud, and ultimately just a lame plot device. It's totally innaproprate for the 'steath' mission they sometimes make. I'm glad to read they came up with an excuse for using them. Related subject, doesn't anyone think that it's bizzare how the Atlantis team shows up on all planets with their automatic weapons drawn out? how exactly do the villagers and farmers not freak out when they see these guys pop out of the gate clinging to their P90s? I've been watching the show with a friend and we often laugh out loud in scenes where none of the characters seem to be conscious of how the scene looks. People with cows on one side, the other ones practically with the fingers on the trigger - and they came to trade wheat. :P

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 9:52 a.m. CST

    Stargate memories...

    by WEBmonkey

    ... always lead me back to Jack and Tealc swinging clubs into the Stargate. It doesn't get much better than that. Every time they tried to replace Jack (Mitchell / Cricton and then Shepard) it failed after the first 1/2 of the season. Yeah, they were witty, but none of them were McGuyver. All hail duct tape and popcicle sticks!

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 9:54 a.m. CST


    by redshirt

    Jason Momoa is married to Lisa Bonet, they just had a baby. Kids name is a hawaiian word about 50 letters long and no hope of pronouncing it! That said, congratulations to them both. Lisa is a beautiful woman and I'm sure their kid will be as well.

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Atlantis was like

    by Dazzler69

    meat and potatoes for sci-fi. Not making too much of a bang but still not a weak show either. I will miss it. They should have resolved the Wraith long ago however to make room for better stories.

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 6:56 p.m. CST

    The General Hammond... yeah but

    by MurderMostFowl

    I cringed when I hear that... What wasn't the ship named the "George Hammond" or simply the "Hammond". That's pretty lame to include his rank in the name of the ship.<BR><BR> Of course this is not the first starship named in honor of an SG team member... anyone remember the ill fated O'Neill? That was inspired writing.

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 7:54 p.m. CST

    Hey, the O'Neill was funny!

    by Amy Chasing

    That the Asgards (inparticular Thor) had such high regard for O'Neill that they named their ship after him. Loved O'Neill's reaction to that.

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 7:55 p.m. CST

    Worst. Franchise. Ever.

    by MJohnson

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 8:21 p.m. CST

    @ MJohnson

    by Amy Chasing

    How many different series are CSI up to now?

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 10:29 p.m. CST

    Atlantis was a snoozer.

    by Baked

    I couldn't bring myself to watch it, but just in case out of fear of missing something good I left the last season marathon playing in the background while I was working. Yawn-inducing.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 3:35 a.m. CST

    Did the actor that plays Gen. Hammond Die

    by LeftFoot

    Did the actor that played Gen. Hammond actually die?<P>There was a statement near the end of SG1 that Hammond was apparently going to be head of Homeworld Security. I thought that concept hinted at some interesting story lines.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 4:42 a.m. CST

    LeftFoot: Yes...

    by Wldmk

    Don S. Davis, who played Hammond on both SG-1 and Atlantis, died last June, not long after filming his brief scene in the second SG1 DVD movie... Found the Hammond ship scene a nice tribute. Having watched most of it, can't say the show was scifi at its best, but it was enjoyable enough most of the time... All in all, though it really did feel like it was supposed to have been a two parter, with some elements incomplete and missing, I thought the final episode was decent enough ending...

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 5:23 a.m. CST

    Hammond never appeared on SG: A

    by Boomers_Lips

    not once.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 6:29 a.m. CST

    UP NEXT...

    by cineninja

    Stargate: Voyager We had the original Then we had Stargate: DS9 and now in the new one the crew of a ship gets trapped on the other end of the galaxy and has to find their way home... yum....Jeri Ryan (fingers crossed) How long before JJ Abrams Reboots Stargate?

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 7:08 a.m. CST

    Too short!

    by Curious Jorge

    The story was way too grandiose to play over a one hour episode; it felt very rushed. It should have been expanded to at least two hours. SG1 similarly had a one hour finale, but at least they were building towards it with a multi-part storyline. Also, I kind of wished they had revealed Atlantis to the world with the splashdown off the coast of California, and then spent a little time dealing with that. The "death of Ronon" ended up just being a tease. Boo!

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 8:12 a.m. CST

    havent' watched it yet

    by Himbo

    But looking at these reviews... Have these reviewers actually viewed SF programming over the years? It is rare that a finale lives up to the best the series had to offer. ST:TNG being a notable exception. Usually they devolve into a hot-dog eating contest. SG1 did a good job keeping it a lower key emotional affair, letting the characters BE characters. SGA did not generate the kind of emotional charge SG1 did, but the eps that were actionactionaction were decent. <p> I'll miss the show, but it wasn't a countdown-to-watch show for me. Usually I get 3 eps on TiVo before burning through on some freetime. <p> Fare thee well my fellow Stargate Fans.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 8:21 a.m. CST

    Great Explanation

    by Maxwell Bishop

    Good job TheSecondQuest. It's rare I read anything of value on these talk backs, but that was a great explanation. I knew some of it, but not the whole thang. And Stargate was a really good show when it was on Showtime. It started to flake out around season 6. Atlantis started OK and then just went downhill after season 1. They should have fired the writers and got some new blood in there. Instead they are going to use the same crappy writers for the new show. Boggles the mind. OH WELL! I won't be watching it. I'll stick to Heroes and dare I say Smallville which is my guilty pleasure.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 8:51 a.m. CST

    Agree Finale weak

    by indyjonez100

    Should have/Could have been an hour longer to wrap a few things. Lots of problems, too numerous to mention here, but I'll tune in for the next one and see whats up.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 9:11 a.m. CST

    I Was Waiting For Amanda Tapping To Do A Backbend In A Pink Furr

    by PoppaRotzi

    ...but it never happened. Deeply disappointed by this episode.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 9:13 a.m. CST

    Umm...That Was Amanda In A Pink FURRY BIKINI....

    by PoppaRotzi

    ...but it could have been silver also...carry on.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 9:19 a.m. CST

    Not really sad to see it go...

    by turketron

    I've seen every episode of SG-1 and pretty much all of Atlantis (there were a few in mid season 3 or 4 that weren't great that i might have skipped) and it was time to put this puppy to bed. The writers just aren't very good... so many episodes felt like recycled storylines from previous seasons of Stargate. The Vegas episode seriously put me to sleep multiple times while trying to watch it. The finale had a lot of contrivances, but was still entertaing I guess. Hope whatever movies they continue to make are good. I don't know about Stargate: Universe... I'll probably end up seeing it at some point though.<p><p>I liked the small tribute to Don S. Davies.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 9:20 a.m. CST

    Oh yeah, the evil Asguard episodes

    by turketron

    The evil Asguard episodes from this season were some of the best of Atlantis. Wish they had continued that storyline (they didn't kill them all did they? I thought I remembered their ship escaping...).

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 11:47 a.m. CST

    Fine, For an Atlantis Episode

    by _Maltheus_

    <p>It won't go down as one of the greatest hours on TV, but it was serviceable as far as Atlantis episodes go. I liked that they ended it with Atlantis finally making it to Earth. That was the whole point behind Stargate command, to get technology to protect Earth. I'm not sure what that'll mean for the movies, but they can't justify sending it back to the Pegasus galaxy just to help the people there.</p> <p>This show should have been better though. Obviously, Rodney was the only worthwhile character, and that was the biggest problem with the show. Lousy characters all around. Remember when Shepard was introduced as a MENSA genius? Yet they play him like a retarded Jack O'Neil clone. Teyla is easily the worst character in the Stargate universe and with all the shuffling, I can't believe they kept her around as long as they did. I mean, she's mind-numbingly awful. Woolsey could have been a good addition to the show, if they kept him like his old antagonistic self, rather than this touchy feely nothing of a character they turned him into. Weir was always bad, despite any hotness, although Carter should have never been brought on the show. Ronin was surprisingly ok with his Tyr Anasazi impression. And Beckett was likable enough (and Zelenka too to a lesser degree). But really, the show was all about Rodney and that ain't enough to carry it.</p> <p>The wraith were lousy villains from the get-go. Sci-fi shows always suffer once they introduce space-vampires. Always! I did like the replicator angle on this show. That's when it was at its strongest. The Showtime run aside, this has always been a fluff franchise anyway. I'm too serious about my other shows, so it's good to have one or two that I can just have some fun with without caring about them too much. I guess I'll stick around to see what Stargate Voyager has to offer. Hopefully, better characters at least.</p>

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 1:59 p.m. CST


    by Krangelus

    "Hammond never appeared on SG:A" guess his appearance in season one, episode nine titled "Home" doesnt count.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 2:29 p.m. CST


    by EvilMonkey01

    Technically speaking it wasn't really Hammond, it was an alien posing as Hammond.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 2:47 p.m. CST

    maybe the writers stopped caring

    by brotherbradshaw

    Do you think the writers stopped caring when they found out the series was ending? I enjoyed the Vegas episode, but it came right out of left field. Does anyone know what the individual actors will be up to next?

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Amanda Tapping - Sanctuary

    by brotherbradshaw

    Have any of you seen Amanda Tapping in 'Sanctuary'?

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Sanctuary is a pile of shit.

    by Boomers_Lips

    Amanda Tapping's British/English accent makes me laugh alot.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 3:30 p.m. CST

    Vegas was their "fun" episode

    by TheSecondQuest

    Much like how SG-1 did "Wormhole X-Treme!" for it's 100th episode and made a sequel to it for their 200th "200", "Vegas" was SGA's 100th episode (but it aired first since SGA always had seasons of 20 episodes instead of SG-1's 22, and they didn't want the season finale to be the fun episode).

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 3:34 p.m. CST

    The evil Asgard

    by TheSecondQuest

    They did survive and were supposed to be a new big recurring enemy. Most likely you would have seen more done with them in Season 6 if it had happened. If we're lucky, they'll focus on them for the SGA TV/DVD movie they're working on, because they were pretty badass. They had a great "we are pretty much your equals but different" balance to Atlantis's human/Asgard/Ancient tech combo.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Sanctuary isn

    by TheSecondQuest

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 3:36 p.m. CST

    Sanctuary isn't great but has it's moments

    by TheSecondQuest

    The stuff with Tesla, Watson/Sherlock and Druitt/Jack the Ripper towards the end of the season was quite fun, I thought. Had an SG-1/Indiana Jones vibe to it. The Watson/Druitt stuff in particular I found to be pretty good.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 6:23 p.m. CST

    I stopped watching...

    by mbeemer

    ...when they announced they were cancelling it in favor of "Stargate: Universe". I didn't think there was any point in watching yet another series being abandoned by the 'geniuses' at Sci-Fi.

  • Jan. 12, 2009, 11:56 p.m. CST

    "...British accent makes me laugh alot"

    by Bill Clay

    For a real laugh, listen to Philip Glenister's American accent in 'Demons'. It's painful to listen to the Gene Genie try to sound like a Yank.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 12:15 a.m. CST


    by laraz

    The only good thing on TV is BattleStar! Anyone who waste there time with anything else, is what i would call a CHUMP! StarGate sucks balls! Big old Monkey Balls!

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 1:39 a.m. CST

    Sanctuary is another

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    *our Vampires / Werewolves are different* show.<p> It's still trying to establish it's mythos but I don't have much hope for it.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 12:32 p.m. CST

    RIP Stargate: Atlantis

    by GooseRecon

    I'll miss this show. Still wish we would have had more stories that weren't in the same wooded lot. Deserts, ice, something UNIQUE.'d better step up.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 1:55 p.m. CST

    Good Riddance

    by Breotan

    Star Trek: Atlantis definately was the "B" team when it came to writing and acting. As far as stories, it was never anything more than TNG warmed over. To be honest, I'm suprised it lasted this long. Pity, too, because the premise definately had promise.

  • Jan. 13, 2009, 4:33 p.m. CST

    GooseRecon- forest planets and SGU

    by TheSecondQuest

    “Of the first ten episodes broken, we have a grand total of zero forested planets,” Mallozzi said. “I’m not saying we won’t, eventually, come across one but, for the time being, the emphasis is on the ship and some locations atypical of Stargate.”