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More Than Meets The Red Eyes... TRANSFORMERS 2 teaser poster revealed!

Published at: Jan. 8, 2009, 8:24 p.m. CST by headgeek

Hey folks, Harry here... The Teaser poster for TRANSFORMERS 2 has popped up online and it looks EVIL and foreboding, eh? The rumor I hear is that this movie is ridiculously huge. I'm talking the sort of huge that makes the last film look like a Sundance outing. That's probably because Michael Bay is truly let loose with this one. NOW - if that happens and he can bare to settle down a bit with his frame, so an audience member can really track on what is going on - without getting a headache... and if the film is less silly... well, I know all of you agree... even if you liked the first film, there was definite room for improvement, especially in terms of actually making the Transformers into actual characters, instead of just being effects. Right? Let's hope... Click on the below poster a big version!





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  • Jan. 8, 2009, 8:27 p.m. CST

    .....

    by The Dum Guy

    scary..

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 8:29 p.m. CST

    Just make megatron a gun

    by kenjinattix

    Or at least a tank...him being a jet is like michael bay taking a giant shit on my childhood.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 8:30 p.m. CST

    Revenge isn't the only thing coming...

    by beetlegeuse

    More Megan Fox please!

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 8:32 p.m. CST

    Sauron's not dead....

    by thethedew

    ...he just showed up on Cybertron!

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 8:32 p.m. CST

    ken

    by lex romero

    he's meant to be a tank in the next film from some leaked promo artwork.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 8:32 p.m. CST

    Can't wait...

    by watch_the_world_burn

    ...for Megan Fox's tits.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 8:33 p.m. CST

    T4's morphing poster is way cooler...

    by richievanderlow

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 8:33 p.m. CST

    People actually liked the first one?

    by DigitalDong

    Now this is news.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 8:34 p.m. CST

    I enjoyed the first one

    by Optimus V

    But I'm not a huge fan of that poster...

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 8:35 p.m. CST

    Streamline the effects also

    by kenjinattix

    I know its like me telling a neurosurgeon to hurry up ILM but just make the robots more easy to pick up with the eye and limit the dangling parts and the fights will be fixed....AND OH...Michael...you might this time want to show the fight between Optimus and Megatron in its entirety instead of dumb cut aways to fucking Shia...I paid to see Good vs Evil not "No, no, no, no, no, no, no!!!" from the guy from Even Stevens.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 8:36 p.m. CST

    EXTREME BAY

    by DisneyFanatic

    SHOWING US THE DEFINITION OF AWESOME. AND YES, YOU MUST TYPE WITH CAPSLOCKS WHEN YOU REFER TO THIS MOVIE. IT IS HUGE AND AWESOME.<p> AWESOME TALKBACK POST.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 8:36 p.m. CST

    Let's give the posturing a rest.

    by greenstyle92

    We all know in our hear of hearts that Transformers was a satisfying movie with cool action that did right by Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, and Megatron at least. I'm up for a sequel.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 8:38 p.m. CST

    Megan Fox and Megatron are one and the same

    by krullboyisback

    just watch, no chick that hot is human

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 8:39 p.m. CST

    Superbowl Commercial?

    by DeeJay

    If this film's first commercial runs during the Superbowl, it may be in the top 5 commercials for the broadcast. As ILM's effects from the first film were so dynamic, the visuals, alone, would generate a lot of interest. Of course, Bay may have just been "blowing smoke" when he said that. Even though some of the music from the score was used in one of last year's pre-game broadcast segments...

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 8:41 p.m. CST

    meh, who cares?

    by hegele

    I know thats a stupid thing to say, what with the first making crap loads of money, but a sequel? ew.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 8:42 p.m. CST

    Kenjinattix...

    by DeeJay

    ... you're right. Letting actors improv some of their lines is nice, but the no-no-no-no's were way too much in the first installment. Duhammel even got into the act, once. This time around, I suspect Bay is going to pay more attention to that during editing. There's just no way he didn't notice it after the fact.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 8:44 p.m. CST

    I agree with Harry

    by virtual_ninja

    The Transformers was waaay to silly, its more like a fuckin teen comedy. Its like AMERICAN PIE: WITH FUNNY ROBOTS lOlZ! It had the potential to be a great sci-fi movie like e.t. Instead its a steaming pile of shit with some nice cgi.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 8:45 p.m. CST

    Note to Michael Bay. Asphalt hurts.

    by kenjinattix

    There are like a millions scenes where actors skid on pavement or are completely slammed down on it...and they get up just fine...AND I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ACTORS. Namely the scene where Shia literally clotheslines Megan Fox off her scooter onto the ground when he is running from Barricade. Chic should have been paralyzed...lets ground into just a little bit of the movie into reality this time. I know this is a film about cars that change into robots but damn respect SOME physics.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 8:46 p.m. CST

    who's posturing?

    by drave117

    The first one was an extremely unsatisfying movie with incomprehensible action, and it did right by NONE of the characters because there weren't any characters in it. (Only special effects.) It failed in almost every way it's possible for a movie to fail. In fact, I think it invented some new ones.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 8:47 p.m. CST

    "Visine gets the evil-red out"

    by TheThinker

    ... an untapped marketing tie-in!

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 8:48 p.m. CST

    NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!

    by kenjinattix

    Sorry...that Shia shit is contagious.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 8:48 p.m. CST

    Revenge of the fans, that is...

    by Zardoz

    not that I'm one, but someone has to be pissed at that turd of a first movie!

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 8:50 p.m. CST

    well least its a nice image

    by Bouncy X

    i saw this on a few other sites and the picture was ugly and blurry and faded, nice to get a clear look. and its sorta cool how his head is pretty much the decepticon logo.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 8:52 p.m. CST

    7UP Yours....

    by kenjinattix

    WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO THE CADILLAC ESCALADE EVIL TRANSFORMER OR THE 7UP MACHINE TRANSFORMER...ANOTHER GLARING POTHOLE IN THIS FILM... Look I love transformers...it IS my child hood...lets LOCK IT UP a little Bay...Lock...It...Up.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 8:54 p.m. CST

    who is that?

    by darthwaz1

    Galvatron?

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 8:55 p.m. CST

    Critics give best ensamble to Milk...Bullshit

    by kenjinattix

    Dark Knight got robbed....again.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 8:56 p.m. CST

    Dont forget Xbox 360-bot and Mountain Dew-bot...

    by blindambition238

    I wonder what their names would be?

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 8:56 p.m. CST

    And here...we...go.

    by seanny_d

    Can we just copy and paste old Transformers talkbacks? Because it's the same stuff over and over again. <p><p>"This movie was shit! Nobody liked it!" (Except funny thing about that, I know tons of people from ALL walks of life that loved it.)<p><p>I can certainly respect and see why people wouldn't like the movie, and Harry makes some seriously valid points about it. But the problem is the way some of you people think that you know better than everyone else because the Transformers movie doesn't match what you wanted it to be. I don't really think there's a matter of right and wrong on the subject of giant robots.<p><p>Even so, BRING ON THE GIANT ROBOTS!

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 8:58 p.m. CST

    my god, THAT'S the best tagline they could come

    by vaudeville villain

    up with? too lame. how about "you won't really know what's coming because the quick cuts/edits will make everything indecipherable anyway."

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 9 p.m. CST

    I like the tagline...Commerical in Disguise

    by kenjinattix

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 9 p.m. CST

    Kenjinattix...

    by DeeJay

    With those silly "new" transformers that cameo'd in the last sequence of the first film, Sector 7 probably took care of them (they had proven they could already handle the more primal ones, anyway). I guess I see that segment as one of the costs of doing business, since Bay had to raise enough funds to pull-off the first movie. With the second installment, the worth of the project should be well-established in the eyes of investors--- so he shouldn't have to resort to such things. Also... I suspect Lebouf's friends tease him about the no-no-no's. He seems like a rather down-to-Earth guy, which would lead me to believe that his buddies let him have it just as bad as the next guy.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 9:04 p.m. CST

    DeeJay...its ironic..

    by kenjinattix

    Cause my name is actually D.J. I just tease Shia...I think he's fine...I think Y the Last Man...if done right could get critical acclaim...great story...if another DJ...Carusso...takes its serious...it could be excellent.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 9:06 p.m. CST

    First One Awesome!

    by Mad-Maximus

    Transformers is one of the few movies that I can watch over and over. And yes A LOT of people love that movie. $708 million at the worldwide box office proves it! Bring on the sequel and the many more that will come!

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 9:09 p.m. CST

    EMPIRE STRIKES BACK LIKE SEQUEL?

    by THE KNIGHT

    maybe not...

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 9:12 p.m. CST

    If I saw that poster at the cinema I would have no clue what it

    by Power_Girl

    if I saw that poster at the cinema I would have no clue what it was for.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 9:12 p.m. CST

    was for

    by Power_Girl

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 9:12 p.m. CST

    Kenjinattix...

    by DeeJay

    ... I'm with ya' on LeBouf. Unfortunately, I think anyone who has that much success at such a young age is going to get ripped-on by a ton of people who wish they were where he's at. Also... it's cool to know there's a "real" DJ is on AICN, by the way. I only use that handle because it was the name of a role I played in a stageplay a looooong time ago.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 9:14 p.m. CST

    Michael Bay won't change a damn thing...

    by FuryofthefilmFan

    why should he, half the world proved to him that he made "movie magic". The guy doesn't have it IN him to do anything passed a dumb ass popcorn flick. He's a walking cliche.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 9:14 p.m. CST

    Power_Girl...

    by DeeJay

    ... sure you would. You'd recognize it from this talkback...

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 9:14 p.m. CST

    Loved the 1st One

    by Slippy

    The 2nd one will rule and make about a billion dollars. There will be more TF’s because the budget is about twice the size of the 1st one. I'm looking forward to seeing Devastator on the big screen.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 9:16 p.m. CST

    YOU'VE STOLEN MY LIFE DeeJay!!!!

    by kenjinattix

    Just kidding...Ledger won best supporting actor for critics choice and Dark Knight won best Action...but I think that is all the critics are willing to give em...we'll see if they get best director or film...doubt it.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 9:17 p.m. CST

    Revenge of the Baked

    by ebonic_plague

    Sonsabitches beating me to all the weed jokes...

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 9:18 p.m. CST

    Just have Megan Fox bending over car hoods...

    by blackmantis

    ...and I'll be there. I'm that shallow.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 9:19 p.m. CST

    DeeJay

    by blindambition238

    It wasn't a stage production of 1994's opus "Street Fighter" was it? Cause that's the only fictional Dee Jay I know of.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 9:19 p.m. CST

    Fury...

    by DeeJay

    ... not that I'm Bay's counsel, but would you not agree that he's one of the few directors in the *world* who could offer: an existing relationship with the US military, his own near-complete "staff" that had previously worked with him, experience in generating revenue through product placement, a decent track record for making projects within their designated time window and enough name recognition where the actors would follow his lead? The guy isn't perfect, but you do give him credit for being one among only a handful of people who we know could make the project work, don't you?

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 9:19 p.m. CST

    The first one was a piece of shit.

    by Rev. Slappy

    Great work from ILM, apparently that's enough for some people. I prefer a movie to be coherent and feature professional-grade acting.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 9:21 p.m. CST

    BlindAmbition...

    by DeeJay

    ... no, it was waaaay more obscure. Just a local show that had a pair of one acts. Plus, I didn't get paid... which many would say means it didn't actually count as "acting" :-)

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 9:23 p.m. CST

    Vern's review about the first one was the only truthful one

    by bullet3

    All you people still in denial about the last one being mostly a trainwreck ought to snap out of it. You're letting hollywood think that things like story, characters, coherence, good dialogue, and intelligence are unnecessary and as long as you throw some explosions in there people won't care. I mean seriously, yes the action is cool at the end, but you have to sit through almost two hours of horrible comedy. Vern was dead on, there's a stupid unfunny comic gag almost non-stop every 30 seconds in that movie. I mean goddammit people, have some standards.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 9:24 p.m. CST

    you guys have it wrong

    by BadMrWonka

    honestly the terrible camerawork was the least of the problems with Transformers. the ridiculous black stereotypes, the horrendously developed female characters, the subplot story arcs that were COMPLETELY unresolved. that's what was so goddamned awful about it.<p>the fact of the matter is, by any rational standard, the movie was a COMPLETE MESS. the fact that it's only considered a MODERATE MESS is a testament to how distracting the ridiculous action and effects sequences were from the truly horrible writing and direction.<p>also, it's "bear", not "bare", Big Guy...

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 9:25 p.m. CST

    Its true DINOBOTS are finally here!!!!!!!

    by raidahguy

    Dinobots suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 9:25 p.m. CST

    "Revenge is coming"

    by BurnHollywood

    What, that nasty looking dude is going to kick the shit out of Michael Bay for the first TRANSFORMERS?<p> I'd pay to see that.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 9:25 p.m. CST

    Michael Bay? Characters? Whaaat?

    by Orbots Commander

    Aren't the two concepts, Michael Bay and developed characters, diametrically opposed? It's like physics: both cannot occupy the same space without the universe imploding.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 9:26 p.m. CST

    will bumblebee fart in this one?

    by vaudeville villain

    <p>

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 9:27 p.m. CST

    I brightened the poster...

    by vanchimera

    Just for shits. Get rid of the 2 spaces.... http://s18.photobucket. com/albums/b146/rxsheepxr/?action=view&current=Big Trannie22.jpg

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 9:28 p.m. CST

    Three spaces, oops....

    by vanchimera

    My bad.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 9:29 p.m. CST

    Yeah, the Transformers cartoon wasn't silly at all...

    by ApneicMonkey

    How dare you rape the perceptions I have of my childhood Michael Bay. How dare you crush the warped sense of sentimental nostalgia that I feel about a TV show with silly to no plot-lines that was created for the sole purpose of selling flimsy toys that broke minutes after they were taken out of the box. 40 Transformers in the new movie should be cool though... I guess.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 9:33 p.m. CST

    Kenjinattix...

    by DeeJay

    ... yeah, "Dark Knight" is in a genre that just doesn't tend to get that many votes for best director. It almost takes away the incentive for such directors to take the film in any risky direction.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 9:37 p.m. CST

    Of all the movies to get geeky about...

    by cdubbs727

    Seriously, I have a great laugh about people who whine about Transformers being true to the series' "mythology." It was a toy series that was turned into a lame cartoon. I enjoyed "Transformers" for what it was--a big, dumb, fun movie. And when you say "we're going to make a movie about giant robots that turn into cars," then you shouldn't expect anything deep. It's a stupid premise to begin with...all that it needs is giant robots, big explosions and a lot of destruction.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 9:41 p.m. CST

    Image with details brought out with photoshop

    by bionomic555

    lurking around and found this: http://zip.4chan.org/tv/res/2515645.html

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 9:45 p.m. CST

    HAIL DARKSEID!!

    by Prof_Ender

    I could not have been the only person to think that.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 9:52 p.m. CST

    cdubbs727

    by BadMrWonka

    the problem with that argument, which we've heard for a LONG time, is that it IS possible to make a big, fun movie, and actually make the characters INTERESTING, and have the plot make SENSE.<p>couldn't I say about Iron Man, "it's a movie about a guy in an mechanical flying suit, of course it's gonna be dumb and silly!" but it wasn't, was it? it was actually well made, well paced, well acted, and engaging. <p>and how about, "it's a movie about a guy in a bat suit fighting with a guy in white facepaint, of course it's gonna be stupid and ridiculous". the argument that anything broad with mass appeal is going to be dumb and moronic is a completely spurious one...<p>face it, Transformers sucked. there's a reason why everyone talked about how great Iron Man and Dark Knight were, and how idiotic Transformers was. fortunately there are enough little kids and people with extremely low expectations (and even lower levels of taste) like yourself to make it some money. <p> but don't claim that it is inevitable that a big movie is going to be dumb. it's only michael bay that's dumb, and his complete disdain for his audience.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 9:52 p.m. CST

    NERDS!!!!!!

    by SlyAndTheFamilyStallone

    Huh? Oh, it's not that revenge...heep heeep heeeep.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 10:01 p.m. CST

    More "panicky black guy" shit?

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    Why do black people still let themselves get cast in these demeaning roles? Fuck...

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 10:02 p.m. CST

    Who are the ad wizards...

    by wampa 1

    ...that came up with this one?

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 10:03 p.m. CST

    Lawl

    by Mr. Lahey

    at internet people telling me how to feel about the first movie and now the second one. Transformers was AWESOME but had its flaws. Michael Bay took an extended toy commercial(which we all loved of course) and elevated it well beyond anything I could have hoped for. And this movie will be bigger? I'm sure I'll see it in IMAX more times than I saw The Dark Night, that being 5.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 10:13 p.m. CST

    by playa4reel

    Geez? Why the hatred for the first flick? To me it was the closest thing we've had to a good ol' 80's flick since well, the 80's! The spirit of that era Spielberg was all over it. It was a good fun, action-adventure pic with big ass robots. Honestly, if A New Hope or Raiders came out today you guys would bitch and moan.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 10:16 p.m. CST

    Less silly??

    by everstranger

    Sure, a movie based on plastic transforming robot toys directed by Michael "script on the tablecloth" Bay and starring the one-handed Indiana Jones' retarded child will probably reach kafkaian metaphysical depth...

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 10:17 p.m. CST

    Mr. Lahey

    by BadMrWonka

    "...elevated it well beyond anything I could have hoped for."<p>jesus christ man, how low are your hopes? are you hoping to make lead drive-thru server by 2015?<p>the movie was a mess. if you enjoyed it, and you're past the age of 12, it's not because the movie exceeded anything. it's because you've got one of those "brain flip-off" switches that frat boys and housewives have in droves. so flip it back on next time before you post again...

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 10:18 p.m. CST

    MrWonka...I couldn't have said it better myself.

    by kenjinattix

    TOTALLY AGREE

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 10:20 p.m. CST

    playa4reel

    by BadMrWonka

    we're comparing Transformers to Raiders of the Lost Ark?!?!<p>are you fucking CRAZY?!?! jesus that might have been the dumbest thing I've seen in the talkbacks in a LONG time...<p>and don't try to backpeddle and say you weren't comparing them. you were. fuck, even mentioning them in the same paragraph is a fucking travesty. jesus christ, that is ridiculous.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 10:25 p.m. CST

    Bigger Budget, Bigger Headaches Bigger Cliches

    by Stormwatcher

    Sorry but while I will of course see this, I have such ridiculously low expectations. No way it won't be stupid.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 10:27 p.m. CST

    good god, its Transformers....

    by j2talk

    as long as it has cars/trucks/planes that turn into robots and beat the hell out of each what more to you expect or want out of it?!?!? plus the film gets bonus points for replacing Alba with Fox as America's #1 pin up girl.... Bring it on and keep them coming...

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 10:30 p.m. CST

    I had a girlfriend who's pussy

    by Tina_Turner_Had_It_Coming

    looked like that poster. It frightened me.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 10:31 p.m. CST

    Damn It

    by Tina_Turner_Had_It_Coming

    Whose not who's. Fuck.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 10:34 p.m. CST

    First one Rocks

    by tempurasan

    I was more of a Gobots fan when i was that age. But Bay made a great Transformers movie, a much better treatment than either Go bots or Transformers really deserve.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 10:46 p.m. CST

    movie still in wrapper

    by jrags1138

    The movie was more of a symbol of a failed format (HDDVD here's why...). I bought the Target exclusive dvd and have it displayed. I cannot get motivated to watch it, yet I have the first three or four waves of the original toys, I even built the Constructicons to make sure I had all the parts recently and discovered I had a couple of Gobots, yay. These films need less hype and more scrutiny, I put these films in the ID4 column where we were given a trailer for six months and expected to show up. It may go back to Jurassic Park where Senor Spielbergo began his new movie model of three chase sequences bridged together with whiny kids and no story. At least that film had majestic shots of CGI and rubber , I do not think we get that anymore.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 10:47 p.m. CST

    Let It Ring From Mountains On High

    by Crow3711

    Fuck This Movie.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 10:48 p.m. CST

    The Fallen

    by Demonoid

    was an evil ancient Transformer, sort of like Satan. In the comics he shows up and just kicks everyone's ass! This is rumored to be the face of The Fallen. (I'm a nerd, and I'm really looking forward to this movie)

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 10:48 p.m. CST

    BadMrWonka

    by Mr. Lahey

    You mean the switch you flipped off before reading my post? I'll reiterate so even a window licker such as yourself might grasp it, however tenuous: Shitty-in-retrospect 80's cartoon + Michael Bay = low expectations for the movie. Those expectations were met and exceeded. If you can't wrap your hamster-like intellect around that, try toggling your "brain flip-off" switch back and forth with gusto before reading it again. They tend to stick sometimes.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 10:53 p.m. CST

    "Revenge Fuck is Cumming"

    by Zardoz

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 10:54 p.m. CST

    I like it.

    by mr.brownstone

    That's were I stand on this one.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 10:59 p.m. CST

    AAAAAARRRGH!!!!!

    by BERSERKR

    Ok i would like to think i have pretty good taste in movies, i agree with most reviews on this site, i like movies old and new, domestic and foreign and i am at the perfect age where Transformers hit me at just the right age when i was a kid, i loved it, i would run around outside after watching the cartoon and make the noises and sing the song, it was one of my favorite childhood shows and still is, and i LOVED the first movie, i had no problem following the action and i didn't get any headaches, it was a bit silly at times, but it was also funny, and there was many a part that brought back my childhood and brought a tears to my eyes or a smile to my face, like Megatron and Star Scream bickering, or when Optimus says to Megatron during their battle, :one shall stand and one shall fall" yes their is room for improvement, but coming from a true fan of the original it was a damn good beginning.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 10:59 p.m. CST

    Mr. Lahey

    by BadMrWonka

    insults aside, let me get this straight. a director with a track record of making shitty movies is making a movie based on a cartoon property, so you therefore lower your expectations to an unbelievably low level. the movie exceeds these extraordinarily low expectations simply by not supporting Nazism, and so you consider it a success?<p>even further, you call it "AWESOME"!!<p>use all the clever put downs you want (never heard "window licker" before, but have at it) but it is you that looks like an idiot. movies will never get better until we RAISE our expectations. not lower them so that idiot directors like Bay get more and more work.<p>but, hey if it's AWESOME you want, then I'm sure they'll make Bad Boys 3 sometime soon. have fun at Transformers 2 at the IMAX with the kids and bored parents. I'll be licking windows.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 11:03 p.m. CST

    AAAAAARRRGH!!!!!(edit)

    by BERSERKR

    Ok i would like to think i have pretty good taste in movies, i agree with most reviews on this site, i like movies old and new, domestic and foreign and i am at the perfect age where Transformers hit me at just the right age when i was a kid, i loved it, i would run around outside after watching the cartoon and make the noises and sing the song, it was one of my favorite childhood shows and still is, and i LOVED the first movie, i had no problem following the action and i didn't get any headaches, it was a bit silly at times, but it was also funny, and there was many a part that brought back my childhood and brought a tears to my eyes or a smile to my face, like Megatron and Star Scream bickering, or when Optimus says to Megatron during their battle, "one shall stand and one shall fall" yes their is room for improvement, but coming from a true fan of the original cartoon it was a damn good beginning.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 11:09 p.m. CST

    So, is that the actual FALLEN character?!

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    THE POWER OF BAY COMPELS YOU!<P>THE POWER OF BAY COMPELS YOU!<P>THE POWER OF BAY COMPELS YOU!

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 11:11 p.m. CST

    Is that you Miles?

    by Rommel Catuncan

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 11:15 p.m. CST

    I already seen a big trannie

    by Rommel Catuncan

    on Oxford St. Looked a bit like Megan Gale. But more blokey. The shoes, the hair, the makeup, the dress. All flawless. Flaw. Less.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 11:27 p.m. CST

    the telemarketer

    by Rommel Catuncan

    Yes I live in Sydney. <P> Are you being serious? I am scared of strangers. But the last time I tried to buy pot in Redfern I got stopped by police and searched and a junkie took my money.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 11:31 p.m. CST

    loserguy3000

    by BadMrWonka

    57% on rottentomatoes, so I guess we're 7% outside of the "mainstream opinion"...not exactly silly, huh?<p>in a world where Britney Spears sells millions of albums, why on earth should you be so proud to be part of the mainstream?<p>anyway, glad you liked the film. someone's gotta serve me fries.

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 11:38 p.m. CST

    BadMrWonka

    by BERSERKR

    I am usually with you guys on this kinda stuff, i do NOT follow mainstream trends and have in fact used your same argument about mainstream liking sh##t like Brittany and Justin Timberlake, BUT i am also a true fan of the original cartoon and the first movie like i said wasn't perfect but it was a good beginning

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 11:48 p.m. CST

    loserguy3000

    by BERSERKR

    Bravo, very eloquent.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 12:02 a.m. CST

    too good for McDonald's?

    by BadMrWonka

    where did you get that? I love McDonald's...and I applaud those like yourself who serve fries. a noble endeavor, for sure. but be honest, fry servers are probably on average, less educated and artistically savvy than the average person. and therefore, more likely to enjoy Transformers and it's AWESOME lack of any coherent narrative, developed characters, and it's AWESOMELY stereotypical portrayal of black people and women! fry servers unite!<p>and I don't let rottentomatoes dictate anything from my opinion, trust me. I just brought it up because you made such a ridiculous statement that anyone ripping on Transformers was "so far outside of the mainstream, it's silly" I refuted that, and that's that. but anyway, the movies you listed with the highest ratings are PROOF that people will enjoy and stand up for great movies, if THEY GET MADE. it's possible to make accessible AND interesting movies, but why should any studio or director bother, when Bay can make a shitstorm like Transformers and make almost as much money?<p>crying ELITISM any time someone stands up for film as a medium with potential for financial success AND quality is a little silly. it's a bit like the people claiming Obama was an elitist, latte drinking snob, while at the same time claiming he was a crazy black militant.<p>but with your "leeching off uncle sam" comments, methinks you might have made some of those types of comments yourself. yeah?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 12:17 a.m. CST

    Looks like Vaginatron from the first film

    by Puddleglum

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 12:18 a.m. CST

    A REAL Bay poster would have this as the one sheet:

    by Puddleglum

    Megan Fox spread eagle with a giant explosion emanating from between her legs, with Shia's curly head looking up in awe/fear.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 12:28 a.m. CST

    BadMrWonka

    by Mr. Lahey

    I know your taste in movies is the best of anyone in this Talkback or possibly the entire internet, but attacking me and anyone else who enjoyed the first film is something a child would do, which incidentally, your posts suggest you may possibly be. Let the grownups discuss movies while you make fun of people who "serve fries." By the way, now you've got me pumped about Bad Boys 3! Which would of course be awesome.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 12:31 a.m. CST

    Damn you Michael Bay

    by killianx

    Where is that guy at?!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 12:32 a.m. CST

    Oh great. MegaGremlin returns.

    by thebearovingian

    All hail the MegaGremlin!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 12:39 a.m. CST

    hmmm

    by seanpb

    i liked the first one. i laughed at the talk of making the robots better actors or more human...theyre robots...id expect them to be automated, rigid etc. whilst this poster isnt the greatest im sure that as a big over the top summer action film the movie will be enjoyable. im curious to know what people who hate on these films expect when they go into the theater.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 12:48 a.m. CST

    Mr. Lahey

    by BadMrWonka

    acting like a child is a staple of the AICN talkbacks, sir. I made some good points in my last posts, but you ignored them in order to poke more fun at me. isn't that a little more childish? ignoring legitimate arguments in favor of name-calling. <p>no matter. unfortunately, I'm probably the oldest one here, I just turned 29!!! ancient by talkbacker standards. I even remember the site BEFORE there were talkbacks, that's how far I go back.<p>and as I said before, I do not look down on fry servers. I love down syndrome kids and old people who refuse to retire quietly! they show gumption!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 12:54 a.m. CST

    Wonka

    by killianx

    I think what Wonka is trying to say is that , critically, Trans1 did not hold alot of water. Also as far as sticking closer to source material (for god sakes one of the D-cons was named Devastator!) and more importantly source Character Development then it could have been a much better film! Atleast that is what i begin to get from it. If other people like the film and think it is the best thing since sliced bread then so be it. However I am here to tell you that there is a much better and deeper spirited story to tell that is closer to the source material of Generation 1 Transformers. And yes maybe it seems childing but little things like Lips on Optimus really grates on the nerves of fans. Why? because that one small change means a whole alot! I mean why not take the points off of Spocks ears or I know that heavy breathing that Darth Vader does is kinda annoying lets edit that out! Yes these are small changes but important aspects. With Trans1 they not only changed small things but enormous chunks of the source! So I think the argument is that whether you are in the camp of those that liked it our not both camps are being cheated of a better story! However I think we all owe Michael Bay some undying Fan love for the images of Meagan Fox we get to watch for the rest of out lives and Shia owes him his first born for being able to make out with her!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:03 a.m. CST

    Look's like the aliens outheads from ID4

    by ThePilgrim

    Seeing that they used the decepticon symbol to make this new head is pretty cool, but it still looks like the big aliens heads the little aliens were hiding in in Independance Day.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:07 a.m. CST

    I'm sure the movie is going to be fun as hell...

    by sonnyfern

    but that poster kinda sucks.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:08 a.m. CST

    TRANSFORMERS WILL BE CLAIMED BY FOX !

    by theplant

    Rothman in on rampage

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:14 a.m. CST

    The comedy in Transformers

    by Ckuouka

    made me angry. It made me violently angry. The movie would have actually worked if they didn't try to make it some pseudo-comedy. It was horrible.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:18 a.m. CST

    I am asbolutely stupified...

    by MonkeyLord

    ... that anyone would type more than 10 characters in a row defending a movie as god awful as the first Transformers turned out to be. BadMrWonka, don't spend too much time and energy defending your stance here. The very fact that you're having to do so means that you might as well be speaking an entirely different language anyway. Transformers is to Cinema what YouTube videos of people lighting their farts on fire are to online entertainment. Some people love that stuff and can watch it all day long. Others of us, well, can't.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:18 a.m. CST

    Ok stop using this defense of "it made money so it can't be bad"

    by andrew coleman

    Most bad movies make loads of money because people are stupid. So a lot of people voted for Bush in 2000 and 04 were they right? NO! This poster I hope is fake because it's pointless and shows nothing. In movie theaters I bet idiots would walk by and go "Revenge for what? Is there going to be nother Star Wars movie?" Whatever I'm not even seeing this due to the fact the first one was not just bad BUT FUCKING HORRIBLE. People who like it must love eating dog shit off the ground because that is what that movie basically was... but instead it goes through eyes so at least you can't taste it I guess. Why in a movie about transforming giant fucking robots who are at war do we have 50 human characters? The President or whoever that asshole was, the head of sector 7(Who was horrible), the stereotypical fat black guy, the hot Australian girl, the other hot American girl, Shia(I can't act for shit) Lebarf, the army dudes who of course needed to kill not just one but two of the Transformers. Only two humans were needed at all! Worthless shitty movie. If I found out they killed almost all the pointless human characters in the second one, I'd see it. But they won't so I'm not seeing it.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:36 a.m. CST

    My TRANSFORMERS rant

    by BurnHollywood

    For the record, I don't give a shit about the TRANSFORMERS cartoon or some sad fuck's kiddie nostalgia trip. But for ten bucks, I just want to see (as promised) a couple of giant robots beating the shit out of each other, not two fucking junk tornadoes dancing around in some horseshit ballet...<p> (I guess that's what they're supposed to be, because they keep transforming...and transforming...and transforming... ALL RIGHT ALREADY, I FUCKING GET IT, ASSHOLES! LESS TRANSFORM-Y, MORE SMASH-Y, ALL RIGHT?!!!)<p> No shit...I saw this on a state-of-the-art digital projections system, and I STILL couldn't figure out what the fuck was going on...who was fighting, or winning, or whatever.<p> Forget Michael Bay...it's ILM who's being a bunch of masturbating show-offs (Hey, guys? BENJAMIN BUTTON'S effects utterly owned that shitty green/pink/silver Yoda you put in the last STAR WARS movie). Bet they wreck this one, too. I'll catch it at the 99 cent kiosk. Maybe.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:41 a.m. CST

    Haha. This movie is going to be so bad

    by geraldbeans

    Last time they actually had TIME to write a script and they had a scene with 5 robots hiding in a kid's backyard. This time they had like a month to put the script together. I shudder at what we're gonna see.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:42 a.m. CST

    KICK ASS effects, Megan Fox..I'm THERE..

    by conspiracy

    Not. Jesus Fucking Mary Magdalene Christ. And please...enough with the Megan Fox shit! She has a nude scene coming up in whatever low budget crap she is in next...so don't use her as an excuse to pad Bays pockets some more. My God you'd think you'd never seen a cheap stripper before. If Megan Fox gets you off that hard and hot...head to the Mall...tons of trashy, overly tat'ed, sexually easy broads exactly like her. But enough...I just seriously can't believe ANYONE thought Transformers was anywhere near a decent film...Crap overdone CGI, HORRIBLE acting..Really Horrible acting...and an Orci script that was bad even by Saturday morning cartoon standards. A film about giant intergalactic robots does not have to be Shakespeare or Scorsese...but at least don't be insulting...and Transformers was insulting to anyone over the age of 13.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:59 a.m. CST

    That poster sucks!

    by Evangelion217

    But I think this film will be decent. I liked the original for what it was, but I hope the Transformers will actually be established as characters this time around. And I hope that the action will be longer, and the Transformers will have fight sequences that last longer then 2 minutes. :)

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 2:01 a.m. CST

    toycommercials! less than meets the eye!

    by ironic_name

    yawn

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 2:01 a.m. CST

    Looks like a superadvanced robot!

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    It's probably Japanese!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 2:07 a.m. CST

    Season 3 of Transformers Animated will

    by Dingbatty

    be far superior to this trash sequel.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 2:22 a.m. CST

    Damn You Michael Bay

    by MCMLXXVI

    Damn You Michael Bay

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 2:29 a.m. CST

    YES!

    by BadMrWonka

    I knew he'd come...

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 2:49 a.m. CST

    Thanks Michael Bay

    by kwisatzhaderach

    for infantilizing the action movie.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 2:52 a.m. CST

    Is this another Kurtzman/Orci shitfest?

    by kwisatzhaderach

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3 a.m. CST

    'Why does Michael Bay keep making movies?'

    by Mr Gorilla

    As the song goes. Oh - I know. Because dumbasses keep watching them. THESE FILMS ARE NOT DRAMAS. They are not action movies. THEY ARE CIRCUS ACTS. You watch them purely to admire the ingenuity of the special and graphic effects teams. Not to hear a story, to care about characters, to experience that wonderful need to know: what is going to happen next?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:07 a.m. CST

    AWESOME

    by eXcommunicated

    AWESOME TV. AWESOME BARBEQUE. AWESOME POOL. AWESOME MOVIE.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:08 a.m. CST

    People still defend this piece of shit?

    by Lost Jarv

    Christ, I assumed when the dust settled and you had a chance to think about the garbage you'd sat through that some sort of critical faculty would kick in. <p>On every level bar special effects, Transformers was a horrible, horrible movie.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:19 a.m. CST

    I don't get it

    by Mr. Lahey

    Why would you get all butt-hurt on the internet because someone liked a movie that you didn't?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:33 a.m. CST

    I was reading customer reviews...

    by TinSpider

    on a site the other about Wall-e. The majority of people (around 90%)were giving it 4-5 stars but there were a few that gave it 1. Curious to what movies these people gave 5 stars too, I looked at their other reviews. Every one of them gave Transformers 5 stars. It underlines that these people are not interested in story and character at all. <b> Personally, I thought Transformers was just OK entertaining shit as a summer film, but a fucking awful 'Transformers' movie. The fan in me dies a little everytime I see frenzy.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:36 a.m. CST

    Cool. Transformers needed more Protoss

    by David Cloverfield

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:43 a.m. CST

    If they were to one day reboot Transformers...

    by Knuckleduster

    ... who would you pick as director? Zemeckis? Favreau even? Any other recommendations?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:49 a.m. CST

    BadMrWonka.. THANK YOU!

    by BRUTICUS

    Well said man. <p><p> the original plot for the cartoon would have been far, far cooler than Bays movie was. the idea of the transformers crash landing here 4 million years ago is better than them arriving here in current day. it emphasized that they were an ancient species with millions of years of backstory. as well, the battle for energon and the race back to Cybertron to rule it is far more interesting to me than the battle for the mcguffin device that turns regular objects into transformers. Turning any object into a transformer devalues the characters whos characters we are supposed to be exploring here. If any object can turn into a transformer on the fly you're taking away from the depth of EVERY transformer in the movie. <p><p> all this garb of "oh it was based on a cartoon I didn't expect shakespeare" makes ZERO sense to me. Batman was based on a comic book character made to sell, comic books. Transformers was based on a cartoon made to sell toys. Who cares? The premise and fanbase of each are strong enough to garner over 150 milion dollar budget for a reason. And both should be treated with care. I suppose people in the "no shakespearean quality for cartoons camp" enjoyed the hell out of Batman and Robin playing hockey with Mr.Freeze in Batman Forever. <p><p> He-Man is another movie being made based on an 80s cartoon made to sell toys. Should it be made as a silly joke movie as well? <p><p> the series had it's flaws. Ironical and contrary to what many people think though. The fact that it was a toy line actually enhanced the stories in a lot of ways. For example the killing off of Optimus Prime (due to a discontinuation of his toy and to create new toys). Ended up being one of the best things to happen to Transformers. <p><p> Each 20 minute episode wasn't exactly a contender for any epic writing award however as a whole, over the entirety of the series some excellent and amazing events and characters were fleshed out. The Constructicons had an over 9 million year history as did Optimus Prime who started out as a humble worker robot named Orion Pax. 50 million years ago the transformers were created by an organic race (Quintessons) as robot slaves who gained consciousness and ran their masters off the planet. So long ago that all records of these times were lost and the Transformers, like us, were left to wonder where they came from. To me the story is a logical progression for movies with themes such as "The Matrix" or "Terminator". This is a story LONG after the organics are gone when a mechanical species thrives as a civilization, similar to humans. Where evolution and technology are one in the same. Where there is no fantasy or magic but technology so advanced that we can't even comprehend them. Technology such as a robot being able to transform into an object the size of a micro cassette recorder. (Soundwave). <p><p> All of these things aren't going to happen in Bays transformers due to a lack of understanding of the mythology. Soundwave, one of the most beloved Transformers was stricken from the first movie altogether because they were afraid he wouldn't work. Where movies like Batman Begins didn't strike anything out, Nolan MADE IT WORK. Bay chooses to strike important and interesting elements out altogether.<p><p> Most of the crappiest things about the movie were a DIRECT result of trying to change things.... <p><p> Frenzy, the Jarjar binks of Transformers movie existed because they tried to find a way to change Soundwave..... noone who gives a rats ass about Transformers would ever liken Frenzy to Soundwave. <p><p> Bumblebee losing his ability to SPEAK. The writers had this vision of Bumblebee and Spike first meeting and having to learn about each other purely by means of body language. (essentially Bumblebee playing charades with Sam) So they decided to shoehorn into the story that Bumblebee, one of the main transformers had lost his ability to speak and with all the technology they have, they couldn't repair his vocal processer. W.T.F?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:56 a.m. CST

    Least this one can't have as much Stephin Fetchit b.s...

    by phasmatrope

    ...as the first one. I gotta admit, as a fan of the original toys, cartoons (which I realize, looking back now, aren't animated that well, are kinda dated, but still fun), I did NOT like the first movie, did not like the liberties it took. But, I think I would've disliked it even for the lame, lowbrow humor throughout: the masturbation jokes, the "my bad," and ESPECIALLY the obnoxious characterization of nearly every black character in there: Bernie Mac and especially Anthony Anderson's characters were just made out to be complete fools. I mean, you don't need stupid Martin Lawrence-like mugging to make this kinda movie funny, it's Transformers for chrissakes: ANY scene with some hotshot yuppie/punk pulling up alongside one Witwicky in his car and trying to look down on him, only to have his own car suddenly transform, walk away, and put the guy to shame would go a LOT further than some stupid donut scene. And MORE STARSCREAM this time!! (or better yet, why not develop ANY of the Decepticons' personalities??) Thank you.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:07 a.m. CST

    DieHard Transformer fans..

    by CeejayNightwing

    might as well not bother going to the cinema just to rant about ho nothing is like the toys of their child hood all over again. Simple fact, you guys need to grow up not just a little but a lot! The original was simply a bunch of odd shaped toys - yes TOYS! The Cartoon was a make-it-up-as-you-go series with lots of stupid scenarios, stupid transformations (Megatron into a handgun?)and so many vehicle jokes that the whole thing was beyond childish. But it was for kids right, so that's ok! The comic was better than the TV cartoon but also had to settle for a lot of the silly Toy looking designs and they also lacked original forms for these robots when they were supposedly on their own planet 4 million years ago NOT looking like vehicles we'll invent 4 million years later! If any of you ever got out of nostalgia mode then you'd realize ONLY YOU can it through the 80's TRANSFORMERS THE MOVIE and let the silliness of the feature go over your head as long as the fights were mostly cool! In all these shows had so little or no human involvement that Earth simply was a place for the toys to meet up and fight, zero military involvement or police in barely any episode at all and utterly nothing in the animated movie! Along come Bay with a live action film and you all expect him to remake that foolhardy show to please your childhood loins and so you can all gather around places like this and jerk off in a the same bowl about how happy you are with your childish things coming to life on the big screen - NO! The world is not a bunch of idiots who fell in love with their toys and never grew up, THAT WOULD JUST BE YOU! Bay had to make a film that made a lot more sense, If robots came from another planet, then they had to look like they cme from another planet with completely different technology, not one that uncannily resembles our vehicles by chance! Yes there would be human involvement, yes there must be military and secret service involvement because it's our bloody planet and that's what we do when things we don't understand end up here, we get involved, we investigate and we utilize it! The Bay movie came with a good deal of external backstory material in comics and Novels just as the Star Wars films and other films have recently done like Van Helsing, Underworld or Matrix. How many of you even bothered with any of this to further understand the featured depth of the plot beyond your ignorance to follow it beyond ticking your scorecards f what was like the original and what wasn't? Quite simply the world embraced the new adaptation with open arms and left you guys in places like these meeting up ass to ass so you can all shit in the same pile about how much Bay's Transformer movie sucks and was gay etc blah blah what have you! This time around will be no different, the film will be another huge success, we'll all love it and be thoroughly entertained again, and you guys will continue to sulk about your childhood things that you simply can't grow out of or see any fault in because of nostalgia! ..YOUR PROBLEM, not Bay's and definitely not ours!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:18 a.m. CST

    CeeJay

    by BRUTICUS

    the cartoon lacked the budget to design robots for their cybertronian modes and also, IT WAS A KIDS show so yeah some of these things slip by. <p><p>noone would expect that. what they WOULD expect is a good fucking movie, engaging, where like Batman, ALL THE SILLINESS somehow made sense. Thats what the writers should have been doing. Making it all make sense.Atleast the important things. THeir problem was... they didn't know what was important.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:19 a.m. CST

    ceejaynightwing

    by TinSpider

    Read what badmrwonka and bruticus have said and rethink your argument, because at the moment it's only serves as amusement to read. <br> I especially like 'Bay had to make a film that made a lot more sense'

  • 4 minutes of the first episode so why pay to design, study and animated these characters? just not worth it.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:23 a.m. CST

    thats fuckin sick

    by geek molester

    and why can I only log in 50% of the time

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:26 a.m. CST

    Transformers was one of the best "popcorn" flicks ever

    by geek molester

    just give in to the Bay, submit you worms, he owns you.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:27 a.m. CST

    CeeJay!

    by Mr Gorilla

    I really don't care HOW the film adapts the book. Take any liberties you want, I say. CLUELESS is a better adaptation of EMMA than, er, EMMA - in my book anyway. My criticism of the film is simply that although things seem to be happening, there doesn't seem to be any sort of involving plot, or story. Although there are superb actors (I include Shia), there were no characters you went home thinking about. There was no imagination. There was no drama. No humour. I don't need things to be 'Shakespeare' but I do need them to be entertaining on a basic level.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:29 a.m. CST

    geek molester

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    No, it wasn't one of the best popcorn films of all time.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:34 a.m. CST

    Transformers was a dull movie

    by lb

    I can see why people went to see it. All the trailers looked great and it seemed like it was going to be a big robot brawl movie. What we got was a ABC Family comedy that happened to have robots. If you enjoyed it...great, but many did not. I was not expecting Shakespeare or Kubrick, just a competent story with big fighting robots.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:34 a.m. CST

    Popcorn Flicks

    by BRUTICUS

    There's no such thing as a good popcorn flick in my eyes.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:35 a.m. CST

    It's going to be a fucking pile of shit

    by photoboy

    Bay is a talentless hack who shit all over the established designs and story in the first film as well as putting in ridiculous "jokes" that weren't funny. This film will be shit.<br><br> Oh and I never paid to see the first film, so all those Talkbackers who say the haters will be there on opening day are wrong.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:37 a.m. CST

    lb

    by BRUTICUS

    exactly... the effects looked great and made the trailers look great. you knew the FX costed a lot and you thought if they're spending this kind of money on FX theres no fucking way they could skimp on...THE SCRIPT!?!!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:37 a.m. CST

    People who loved TRANSFORMERS

    by Mr Gorilla

    Well, if you loved it I sure as hell can't tell you that you DIDN'T. That would be mad. Maybe we really do need to find another word to differentiate between blockbusters like TRANSFORMERS and blockbusters like DARK KNIGHT or HELLBOY II. What do you think? There IS a difference, isn't there. Let's not forget, people, that one of the first blockbusters was THE GODFATHER. There is no shame in being popular, and only a cynic thinks that popular = dumb.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:47 a.m. CST

    Bays Transformers was a fucking mess.

    by BRUTICUS

    TWO of the characters in the movie are Soundwave rejects. Blackout was going to be Soundwave til Hasbro told Bay, no Soundwave is a MUSIC PLAYER. SO rename Soundwave to Blackout and try and develop another character. The next character turns out to be the Jarjar Binks of the movie, FRENZY, the ghetto blaster. The fans see the design and freak out, rightfully so, this character is NOTHING like Soundwave. They decide to leave Soundwave out altogether. So we have two characters worth of effects that could have been used towards ACTUAL transformers characters. They leave them in the script I imagine because they dont want to waste time on the script by having to write these lame ass characters they invented out. "Ok fellas.. lets keep these stupid characters who Hasbro can't stand in the movie,.. I mean if we take themout of the movie we have to actual write some GOOD stuff to make up for those lost pages..."

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:47 a.m. CST

    There ARE good popcorn flicks

    by Mr Gorilla

    The following POPULAR films can be enjoyed whilst munching popcorn: Rear Window. The original Star Wars trilogy. North By Northwest. Back to the Future. The Incredibles. Spider-Man 2. MIssion: Impossible. The Fugitive. The Sound of Music. Red River. The Searchers. The best James Bond films. The best Harry Potter films. Total Recall. Midnight Run. Collateral. Chicago. Oliver! Oh, god, I could go on for ever...

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:52 a.m. CST

    Last mail on this subject...

    by Mr Gorilla

    Bay will continue to rip-up traditions of storytelling, drama and character. In a way it doesn't bother me. His films will, ironically, turn into dinosaurs very quickly, since their only value is as a demonstration of cutting-edge effects. They offer nothing of perennial interest. I thing they come to be regarded in the same way we look at Irwin Allen disaster movies of the 70s. Circus acts. Pure circus acts.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 5:07 a.m. CST

    yes it was

    by geek molester

    you guys are just whiney, jaded bitches, you sound like a bunch of hoes on the rag with STDS.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 5:13 a.m. CST

    Popcorn

    by TinSpider

    I find it impossible to enjoy any movie with popcorn around me. Seriously, can't theatres sell marshmallows in cloth bags? Food that's fucking silent and odourless. It's one of the reasons I don't go to the cinema at peak times anymore.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 5:22 a.m. CST

    Actually, now that I think about it,

    by Dingbatty

    I'm all for this shit movie, because it's existence keeps the new cartoon alive.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 5:29 a.m. CST

    I liked all the black characters

    by Lone Fox

    The way they referred to their mothers and grandmothers as bitches, and shouted alot. Classic scriptwriting. Really.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 5:32 a.m. CST

    I loved the first movie, so there!

    by Bono Luthor

    And I was a fan as a kid. Can't wait for this. My wife wouldn't go to the cinema for the first one. We watched the DVD over Christmas and now we both can't wait for this one. When I farted this morning it sounded like the brass on 'Pit Of Carkoon'.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 6:07 a.m. CST

    Dingbatty

    by TinSpider

    I know what you mean. It feels odd that Transformers Animated, a fucking cartoon, can make changes and updates to the original and still hold true to the original characters. Can't wait for season 3.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 6:12 a.m. CST

    yawn...

    by TiPPiDa

    the only thing lamer than that poster is the fanboys screaming for 'dialogue','plot','character development',and 'reality' in a movie about giant metal robots beating the ever-lovin' fuck out of each other, fuck off and watch Slumdog millionare if dialogue, characters and story are what you want<p> Diet Coke comparisons? are you fucking serious? if you squint it tastes like coke, come on *sigh*..... at least give an anology about a ugly up close woman or a work of art and its messy brush stokes... diet coke.. dude, you seem like a smart chap.. pop another quarter in and have another crack at it...<p> Looking forward to another movie about Giant Robots beating the ever lovin' fuck out of each other, My wife is more excited about it than i am, we gonna get some corn, some reeces pieces and the biggest fucking soda they got and we're going to enjoy the hell out of this check your brain and your penchant for geeky poofter posturing at the door, and get your ass kicked by giant metal robot smackdown, a modern but not too edgy soundtrack, and eye candy lots of eye candy, while you all can watch whatever 'optimism is overrated, we think the world is shit and we're doing our best to make you remember that' oscar bait that might be trendy that week. Shit movies like Transformers may be shit for geek cred, but its good for the soul....<p>I know its only a teaser but the poster is lame, give us something worthwhile like a shot of a city street, showing Megatron from the back, in the distance between megatrons legs, we see Shia and Megan on the ground (fallen over or some shit) like little ants looking up at Megatron, about to get squished and scared shitless.. then talk about revenge.. That would be a teaser.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 6:14 a.m. CST

    God Transformers sucked

    by ballyhoo

    If the sequel is a big hit too, I'll be very disappointed in humanity.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 6:22 a.m. CST

    TiPPida - you pulled me back IN!

    by Mr Gorilla

    It's not a choice between Michael Bay or Ingmar Bergman. We're not saying that. I would LOVE to see a great movie about giant robots beating the crap out of each other. But can't you understand that any fight is much more exciting if you GIVE A FUCK ABOUT WHO IS DOING THE FIGHTING!!! That's why the fight at the end of the original ROCKY was so thrilling. That's why Indy versus Big Bald Guy in RAIDERS was so rousing. That's why Ripley verses the Alien Mother made me want to stand up and cheer at the end of ALIENS. And why James Bond versus Red Grant made FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE kick my ass so much. Is there seriously no part of you that can see that those are superior popcorn films?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 6:28 a.m. CST

    again,WHAT did you expect out of it??

    by j2talk

    Come on people the movie we are talking about is TRANSFORMERS....directed by Michael Bay....It delivered exactly what was expected out of it...was it Great NO- THAT would have been IMPOSSIBLE considering the talent involved, but for what it was it was a damn good film....it wasn't like say -and I brace to be flamed here-The Dark Knight which was a pretty damn predictable Movie-Come on,did ANYTHING surprise you in the story??-But was executed so well it changed perceptions on What a "Comicbook" film could be??? of course now EVERYTHING is going to be "Dark"..kinda like the '80 after Frank Miller changed things up ...

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 6:36 a.m. CST

    What about Godzilla 98?

    by ballyhoo

    Did you Transformers fans like that one, too?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 6:38 a.m. CST

    A: "Sh*t for brains".

    by TheCap

    Q: What is Michael Bay ?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 6:39 a.m. CST

    Transformers sucked

    by disfigurehead

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 6:40 a.m. CST

    Dark isn't the issue, j2talk

    by Mr Gorilla

    The issue is GOOD versus BAD filmmaking. You are right to say: 'It's a Michael Bay film, what do you expect?' But I could equally say: it's a summer blockbuster. I expect to meet memorable characters; I expect exciting (as opposed to loud / confusing) action sequences. I expect a story that makes me wonder what is going to happen next - and HOW it is going to happen. I expect to be pulled into someone world. I expect more than to say 'gee, the special effects were good'. 'Gee, the special effects were good' is an appropriate response to a TV commercial; not to a summer blockbuster.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 6:49 a.m. CST

    Zoom out! Zoom out!

    by Judge Briggs

    And stop putting in actresses who blow you during casting call, Bay!!!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 6:53 a.m. CST

    Mr Gorilla-well its a matter of taste

    by j2talk

    I guess I am a bit more open minded, to me it delivered what I expected, and so to me it was a success...My 12yr old son Loved it- and he no doubt was part of the target audience..I wouldnt want to see a "deep" movie it would come of almost pretentious...seriously I can hear it now...The Coen Brothers pitch....Transformers,huh, We got it, its a twist on Cain and Able....

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 6:54 a.m. CST

    Oh and Mr Spielberg

    by Mr Gorilla

    You should be ashamed to be associated with this shit.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 6:58 a.m. CST

    It failed as an action blockbuster

    by lex romero

    For starters I couldn't give a fuck about the cartoon. I'm not asking for "Shakespeare", I'm not asking for "Citizen Prime" but I was hoping for a decent action flick. The film failed at that basic concept. And tbh that's all mrbadwonka and mr gorilla are saying. <br><br>A good blockbuster needs likeable characters, it needs humour, but at the same time the concept it's selling us needs to be taken seriously, I can't feel involved or care about the characters to enjoy the action if every 5 minutes the film is pointing out how stupid the idea of transformers are and throwing shitty jokes at me. It also needs good action scenes, that are well directed. It needs a somewhat engaging plot that makes sense. <br><br> Transformers1 failed on all of these. Everyone trying to defend it and claiming that everyone who trashes it must have been expecting shakespeare is missing the point entirely. The film just wasn't well made or entertaining. It failed to do what a summer blockbuster is meant to do.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 7:03 a.m. CST

    j2talk

    by lex romero

    you completely and entirely missed his point! Where was he saying he wanted a "deep" movie? He just said he wanted a good summer blockbuster, which transformers failed to be. Can people please stop saying the people who criticise transformers wanted shakespeare or similar. That's not what we're saying. Raiders of the Lost Ark is just a summer blockbuster, it's not a big complex deep story. But it does succeed at being an entertaining and memorable film. <br><br> Why is it pretentious to hope for an entertaining summer blockbuster with fight scenes where I can see what's going on?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 7:04 a.m. CST

    Yeah... in fights hard to tell who is who.

    by stlfilmwire

    Biggest complaints from last one: silly humor (Bernie, the pee, etc.) many of the actors looking like they are supposed to be in a catalog. The women looked like models and the men looked like models in watch ads that you find in Esquire. More grit. More dark. More character development. More about the bots, less about Shia.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 7:06 a.m. CST

    No Megatron in this film...

    by L. Ron Bumquist

    according to Empire magazine interview with Bay.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 7:10 a.m. CST

    just going to pretend

    by Dazzler69

    shita lablah is not in the movie for now to get my hopes up.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 7:14 a.m. CST

    lex romero-you missed the point

    by j2talk

    it was a Michael Bay film...not a Steven Spielberg....and with that in mind, what it delivered is what you should have expected....and with that in mind it worked...personally I'd like to see more Transformers and less Benjamin buttons/Doubt Oscar grab pictures...and while I am hoping Can we get a follow up The Usual Suspects already???????

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 7:21 a.m. CST

    connection to pyramids

    by scotsman75

    im suprised noone can see the connection to the pyramids,when u look at it brighter,can u not see the similarity to egyptian pharos?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 7:23 a.m. CST

    pyramids

    by scotsman75

    with the recent pics and now this poster,i wouldnt be surprised if theres a transformer buried in a pyramid and thats what the storys about

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 7:26 a.m. CST

    not the pyramids,under the Spinx

    by j2talk

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 7:27 a.m. CST

    oops sphinx

    by j2talk

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 7:30 a.m. CST

    my theory

    by scotsman75

    irecon the alspark is something to do with the pyramids,and the fallen is transformers defeated back in egyptian days

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 7:31 a.m. CST

    my theory

    by scotsman75

    irecon the alspark is something to do with the pyramids,and the fallen is transformers defeated back in egyptian days

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 7:32 a.m. CST

    FREE TOMBODET!

    by DocPazuzu

    We need someone to balance out the hate.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 7:35 a.m. CST

    lighten up the poster and see what i mean

    by scotsman75

    when u look at the poster lightend up with photoshop,it looks like an egyptian pharo

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 7:41 a.m. CST

    This movie needs more Lincoln Park...

    by skycrapper

    because there's no such thing as too much Lincoln Park.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 7:41 a.m. CST

    Despite the bile that was spewed on the talkback..

    by emeraldboy

    Regarding Transformers, and despite the denials from people who said they would not pay money to see. some if not all were there if not on opening day, they went to the film and paid their tickets and saw the film. some still said the movie stank. but some actually enjoyed it. I thought the reaction to the movie from the day it went into production to the day of its release was overly hysterical.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 7:46 a.m. CST

    Still doesn't look like Megatron

    by Abominable Snowcone

    In fact, in the first movie, he moved around so much that you never get a good look at his metallic-vagina of a face.<p> If you save this image and open it in Photoshop or Picture It! and click "Edit--Effects--Negative" it turns into Venom.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 7:50 a.m. CST

    Turn off your brain and forget it....

    by kenjinattix

    You're leaving out a shitload of stuff that is wrong with this movie..or lack there of. I DID grow up on transformers...and GI JOE and GOBOTS and THUNDERCATS and HE-MAN...hell even Jem and Denver the Last Dinosaur. And as reports came in I was a big proponent of the Transformers when people were lambasting it early. Then I saw what they did to Prime(Gay flames, no faceplate) and Megatron(A ship?) and I was officially going to tell all my friends to boycott this movie. Then I realized as of late I hold no influence with my friends when it comes to directing them to see stuff I consider great and not to see things I know to be awful. They take my opinions with a grain of salt and most of the time watch/dont watch shit I tell them to spite me. But I put my foot down and said I personally was going to boycott Transformers. By myself. My friends would bring it up, knowing that I hated it to tease me or get a rise out of me as they like to do. But I was firm. I would not see it. And then on Tuesday I realized that I was becoming what I swore to myself I would never be when it came to film. Unobjective. So I saw Transformers. I did all the movie type lingo as said above (SHUT OFF YOUR BRAIN, FORGET IT, LOWER YOUR EXPECTATIONS) and more importantly I decided to look at it as a stand alone movie. Seeing as Spielberg and Bay were not bringing the original back story in and all the stuff we loved about the show and 1st movie...I decided to not either. That was a mistake. As a fan boy you can ignore bad things in a fan boy movie as long as it appeases to your nostalgia of the original. Here with transformers they decided to throw out 90percent of the nostalgic and redesign their own flick. Fine. But when the fan boy smoke screen is ignored or taken away the blaring luridness is greatly apparent. The things wrong with this movie I will state will be stand alone and not related to differences from the original. Though there are thousands of unforgivable things that this film has different from the original apart from design(Starscream wanting to actually thaw out the robot he's always hated? hmm.) 1. JAZZ - Jazz actually says and I quote "Autobots Represent" and " This looks like a cool place to kick it" Other than this being racist this is so campy. To endear Jazz to the audience we'll have him be the break dancing street robot. He says four campy lines and then dies. And we're supposed to care? If Bumblebee died then we would care. But the seen at the end where Optimus is casually holding jazz in both hands like a broken dish comes off like a brush off. "Jazz is dead he was a great friend...but NOW WE GOT NEW ONES YEAH!" I don't blame Prime to brush off Jazz cuz...who gives a shit...he wasn't endeared to me as nothing more than a stereotype(AND DON'T COUNTER WITH JAZZ WAS A STEREOTYPE IN THE ORIGINAL AS I'VE SAID WE'RE LEAVING OUT THE ORIGINAL. WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON HOW TRUTHFUL TO THE ORIGINAL THIS IS AS I'VE SAID) Handled bad. Turn off your brain and forget it. 2. John Torturro - I would have never thought that Da Jesus would be getting R. Kellyed on in a Michael Bay film. His performance was straight out of all the bad scenes in Men In Black. He is supposed to be the Adam Baldwin character in Independence Day(Get to that later) character in this film but comes off more like the butler in Mr. Deeds. S7 t-shirt? Come on. Turn off your brain and forget it. 3. Asphalt doesn't hurt - How much does Shia Labouf weigh? 170? 180 tops? But Barricade(Police car) slams him again and again into the ground and he not only stays conscious, he's running away. How much does Megan Fox weigh? 100? 110 tops? And yet Shia gives her a clothesline ala JBL off a moving bike onto...you guessed it, hard pavement. However, she snarks at him as though he scuffed her keds. She should have been bleeding all over the place or...DEAD. How much does prime weigh? 100? 200 tons tops? Yet he pins Shia Labouf against his chest(metal by the way) and crashes down on pavement and....Shia Labouf is fine. The guy from Vegas. DUMBmell. What's his skin made out of? Flesh right? Yet he gets a ducati to about 80 mph, JUMPS OFF, SLIDES on his BACK around 20 feet, kills Blackout, and hops right back up. You couldn't do that on a slip and slide without ripping your skin off. Asphalt in this movie doesn't hurt. Turn off your brain and forget it. 4. Disappearing Character - No i'm not talking about Tyrese or Anthony Anderson(Thank god they left) I'm talking about...hmm...I don't know....MountainDewatron or Xboximus Prime or Cadillacron. AND MORE NOTABLY Scorpinok(He didn't die. His tail was cut off) They just...vanished. Were they killed? Did the Autobots kill them? Are they still reaking havoc? Sssh Michael Bay is keeping it a secret. Turn off your brain and forget it. 5. Autobots hiding around Shia Labouf's house - The title it self makes no sense. Its as if the Autobots were like the velveteen rabbit, or snuffleupagus or Hobbs. Grown ups can't see FOUR 12 story robots that leave earthquakes when they tip toe because they lack a child like innocence. Turn off your brain and forget it. 6. Optimus vs Megatron - Lets not entirely show the most climactic fight between the two main characters in the movie. Lets have the battle shot over the shoulder of Shia Labouf out of focus. The equivalent of showing the final battle between Hector and Achilles in Troy over the shoulder of Brian Cox. Damn at least when they are talking to each other, SHOW THEIR FACES. No. We get Shia Labouf crawling in a ditch. You could have zoomed out and had Shia Labouf standing in between the two of them with all the carnage going on in the back ground. That would have looked epic. Sorry. I'm giving Michael Bay direction. "My bad" as Optimus once said(I'll get to bad lines later) Turn off your brain and forget it. 7. Final Battle - Why would a group of robots who want to protect humans so bad bring the all spark to the most populated part of the city to fight for it? Hmm? Could have just fought around the dam. Turn off your brain and forget it. 7a Sam's end run - Though I though it looked cool but let me understand the logic. "Sam I'm a 200 ton robot from outerspace. You're a 180 pound nerd from the valley. I think......you should hold on to the heart of my planet and run it up a building for....for....I um forgot why you were climbing the building in the first place Sam. Just run. Don't give it to any of the HIGHLY trained army rangers either. I want you to hold on to it Sam. Protect it with you meager life." Though as I've stated earlier. Shia Labouf's character is unaffected by asphalt so thats a plus for him. 8. Cop scene with Labouf - You're Law & Order SVU questioning me for reporting my car stolen? God I hope when some ex pornstar looking cop questions me with unsubstantiated bullshit and threatens to actually WHIP MY ASS IF I PULL HIS GUN OUT my father won't just sit there and watch me take it like Shia Labouf's dad did. For this entire scene PLEASE turn off your brain and forget it. 9. Shia Labouf bumblebee reveal - Follow me here. Shia Labouf thinks his car was stolen. He follows it. He sees it doing some weird Autobot batsignal. He realizes its now a robot. He runs from dogs and then bumblebee donuts around him and Shia throws bumblebee the keys and says and I quote "You can take it. I don't want the car anymore. You can have it" Ummmm who is he talking to? The invisible thief in the car that he now knows doesn't exist? Turn off your brain and forget it. 10. Robot fights - Take a whole bunch of car parts and painted scrap metal, roll it into a ball, zoom in on it and then toss the ball down the hill. Visually I have described 80 percent of the robot fights in this movie. Though I have to say Prime vs Bonecrusher was great. As well as Bumblebee Barricade. You don't want to use shaky Paul Greengrass shooting and editing on creatures that are as complex and nearly unrecognizable as these robots. When Iron hide does his matrix flip shooting its hard to know which end of him is which. Megatron just looks like scrap metal. The only recognizable ones are Prime and Bumblebee. You can kinda tell where their parts are but you really have to squint. I understand making the robots realistic. Hell the ILM for this is as stated amazing but could you please make them look a little streamlined so I can tell up from down...oops sorry Turn off your brain and forget it. 11. Decepticons - Short of Blackout and that annoying ass Frenzy....what are the decepticons doing this whole time? Sleeping. making bombing runs with the 35th airborne. They just show up from no where. Are they just kicking it like Jazz proclaimed? Turn off your brain and forget it. 12. Ebay pic of Shia labouf - Huh? Why? I don't get it? Turn off your brain and forget it. 13. Sector 7 Independence Day - There are long...and I mean LONG moments of this movie where its possible the screenwriters mixed up their script with Dean Devlin and Roland Emmergay's Independence Day movie script. The morus code thing for one but mostly the sector 7 reveal. Its a mirror image of the Area 51 reveal in Independence Day. Dialog and everything. Come on its kinda fun to mix an match. Replace Megatron with the alien in the glass case. Replace Jon Voight with Bill Pullman. Replace John Toturro with Adam Baldwin. Replace Shia Labouf with Jeff Goldblum. Replace the guy from Vegas with Will Smith and ITS THE EXACT SAME FUCKING SCENE. LINE FOR LINE "You mean this whole time you had an alien species hidden here and you didn't tell us!" I know this movie was rushed but I'm waiting for the law suit. Turn off your brain and forget it. 13-A Megatron waking up - The coolent system holding this evil ass robot has failed. Lets keep the workers standing around him taking ice samples anyway. Why rush. I'm sure he won't be pissed after being frozen ALIVE for 10,000 years or some shit. Its only this evil as robot that Prime has said kills at will. "Bob just get me another reading on his pinky toe please. Huh? What did you say? Megatron woke up and squashed Bob and his staff of 13 people? Aw thats too bad. Serves them right for being in a union. Hey what are you ordering for lunch. I'm having chinese and...what....Another murderous ass robot just landed on the top of the dam with Megatron? Guess we should go then huh? What? Oh same crazed ass minirobot is blocking our way cuz we sat here and kicked it. Damn. I wish I would have had time to react to this turn of events. Turn off your brain and forget it. 14 Anthony Anderson's point - What was it again?....hmmm....oh there was none, seeing as though he never broke the code the Australian bird brought over to him to decode....? Oh well thats embarrassing. 15 Bad Lines - You have left off some doozies when it comes to bad lines here. MOJO is that what they're calling it now? Are you ladies man 1087? Man if you could see this shit! Bad mojo. Did he pee on you? That's his bling EBAY!!!?!?!! You know we don't harm innocents Ironhide. Whats with you? WHATS WITH YOU PRIME??? You're a soldier now! I'll agree to help you if you let my parents go and her juvy record....gone.(Following that) Thank you Sam. Left cheek? No I don't want to try your premium package You're coming with me. For what? To advise me. What about me? Who are you? He's my advisor. Shut up Grandma We're here to climb this tree and many many more 16 Prime lets Bumblebee get captured - HUH!?!?!?! "You mean we're just going to let them take Bumblebee prime?" "There is no way to save him without harming the humans." HERES A WAY. Why don't you just go down there and do that magnetic gun trick you did with sector 7 men before. Or just GO DOWN THERE! I'm sure They ain't gonna start no ruckass with Four Auto bots standing there. "Taking the children was a mistake" But taking Bumblebee....eh....Thats okay. He'd understand. Feh. Turn off your brain and forget it. NOW I did like some things in this movie. Peter Cullen was great....not his dialog...sucked as far as i'm concerned...but that's the writers fault. Cullens delivery of all that horrible dialog....almost made me accept it. He sounds so cool. Its the main reason everyone loves Optimus. He's like the robot version of Barry White or James Earl Jones. You got to love that voice. Like a warm blanket. But his dialog. UGGGGGH. I say again "EBAY!" As stated before...Bumblebee was great. He was cool. Bumblebee was cool can't believe I'm saying that. Sorry, almost brought up something from the show. Blackout(Helicopter) was the shit. Favorite scene of the movie by far was Blackout fucking up the army. Thats how a Transformer would fuck up the public. They forgot that at the end. Starscream attacking the jets....fucking cool. 2nd favorite scene in this movie Prime vs Bonecrusher....Great Megatron flicking a human and calling him "maggot". Terrific. The transforming was fucking great. ILM Must have worked on that for years(Along with CGIing off Megan Fox's tattoos) cuz its flawless and different everytime. They could do this movie over and just have them transformers transforming over and over and I'd pay for it. Scorpinok attack (MINUS "Left cheek" and Phone call scene) was cool... The point of this rant is I don't know why everytime we go to one of these dumb blockbuster films its like okay to turn off our brains and forget it. Why? Why hold something at such a low standard? That we love? If thats the case we should do this to every horrible movie out there and excuse it. Like Batman & Robin or Exit Wounds or Catwoman or Cradle to the Grave or Torque or Meet Dave or Daddy Day Care or Fire Down Below or anything by Uwe Bol. If you can't. If you can't turn off your brain and enjoy those movies why should you enjoy this. That is my objective review

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 7:50 a.m. CST

    Aforementioned T4 motion poster here

    by Abominable Snowcone

    http://tinyurl.com/75hmja

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 7:56 a.m. CST

    The Knight

    by Abominable Snowcone

    Knight, if anyone wants to make a sequel "like" Empire Strikes Back, the idea should be to up the drama--the human emotional tension, show action with restraint, and at the end make it look like the bad guys have really won, at least for the time being.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 7:57 a.m. CST

    Megan Fox's midriff

    by Cletus Van Damme

    As long as I see more of Megan Fox's sweat-soaked midriff, I don't give a shit if Bumblebee is sodomized by a Decepticon called Ramrod in the first scene.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 8:04 a.m. CST

    lex romano

    by Mr Gorilla

    Thank you, you put the case much more clearly than I could have. And, as you mention, there is something basically insulting about pointing out how stupid the idea is every 5 minutes. It's like Bay and company are laughing at us. Look how differently Spielberg handled things in the first Jurassic Park. He realised that 'dinosaurs on the rampage' risked being pretty dumb, so he spent a good HOUR selling in the idea, getting us all to go along with it. The result was that the action in the second hour was totally thrilling - even though it is like a low-budget art movie compared to all Transformers' scale and locations and explosions and cast of thousands.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 8:07 a.m. CST

    I'm not saying it's easy, by the way

    by Mr Gorilla

    I really think that making a solid popcorn movie is just as hard as making a solid art movie, or indie movie - if anything harder because all sorts of exterior pressures impinge on the process. I'm not saying that directors today should 'follow the masters' step-by-step. Because one of the hardest things about making a popcorn movie is that us audiences are always demanding something NEW, something we haven't seen before.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 8:26 a.m. CST

    ...

    by vanchimera

    I'm glad I don't get worked up over shit like this because damn, guys. Lighten up.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 8:33 a.m. CST

    Never saw the first one.

    by rbatty024

    Is it any good?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 8:41 a.m. CST

    You can be who you want to be

    by Kentucky Colonel

    And you don't have to be a gun. <p> You could be Superman!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 8:43 a.m. CST

    BadMrWonka

    by spasticus

    Have you ever actually read a Batman comic as clearly trying to compare the 2 is ridiculous.Batman has always been very character driven whereas Transformers was always nothing more than a toy advert.I spent my childhood watching that show and they pretty much did nothing but fight over energon cubes and introduce a new toy evey once in a while. After watching Bays movie, i watched the animated movie(you know,the one where the leader of the toyocons dies)it was trash! It was just a string of encounters with new toys.If you look at the history of transformers,the cartoon was clearly there to sell the toys not the other way round. And anyone who talks about there being millions of years of mythology clearly isn't a child watching the series but an adult who should have probably moved on to more adult sci fi.Most of the newer mythology linked to transformers actually shits on the childhood of many of the original childhood fans for whom the joy came from its simplicity. Transformers had a ton of flaws but was it dumbed down when compared to 2 hours worth of the cartoon? Clearly not,some would argue it was smartened up. Oh and just for the record i enjoy all kinds of movies i just appreciate them on their own merits.Oh and please MrWonka dont go to see transformers 2(or download it)as clearly you already know you will not enjoy it.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 8:45 a.m. CST

    1st Transformers

    by Slippy

    Best movie of 2007. Even with the limited budget, the movie kicked all kinds of ass. Now with twice the budget, I really want to see the shit ILM and Michael Bay can pull off. Devestator alone will make me see this movie at least 3 times.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 8:46 a.m. CST

    It lost me with "Baby Come Back".

    by malificus

    That scene was so stoopid it actually sucked intelligence from my brain that I have yet to re-build. Please allow me to add my voice to those that hated this movie, I tried watching it twice and still couldn't make it through. When they had that big meeting with all the world's best and brightest and brought in slacker-jackasses from college I wanted to blow up a planet. Megan Fox is hotter than hell but even she isn't worth it. This sequel will be so bad that the DVD, when it eventually is released, will transform into a small, portable commode that you can actually take a dump in.

  • So says Variety (along with GI Joe for the die hard 80's cartoon fans like myself). http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117998229.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:04 a.m. CST

    advertising has been in movies and tv programm...

    by emeraldboy

    for so long that now there is major fall in such things, Movies and tv shows are now in real jeopardy. Peyton Place was americas first soap opera. It was called a soap opera because it was sponsered by a leading american soap brand. They really nothing more than serial dramas. which is what they are called now, especially in the UK. 24hrs apart from being a kick ass hour of tv was also heavily sponsered show. All cars were sponsered by Ford. The list is as long as your arm. Hasbro produced a whole range of merchandise for Transformers, Cartoon series, toys, comic books etc etc. So to somehow say that its wrong for bay to make merchandise and therefore make money out of transformers. misses the point. Hasbro makes toys. The same was true for Teddy Ruxpin, Cabbage patchdolls, My little pony, Barbie and ken and strawberry shortcake and the care bears. They all were toys and were spun off into tv adaptations and subsequently films. and books.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:05 a.m. CST

    spasticus

    by TinSpider

    Have you actually read any of the character driven Transformers comics? You seem to have this insane idea that the only source material is the cartoons. That's like saying the Batman movies were based on a camp 60's show. I'd do some research on a topic before chipping in with useless arguments.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:07 a.m. CST

    YES!!! FREE TOM BODET!!!

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    THIS MOVIE NEEDS GIANT ROBOTS!!!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:09 a.m. CST

    oh and the hideous...

    by emeraldboy

    Bratz dolls are no different. same with dora the explorer. and an even more Cynical attempt to manipulate kids are the Pussycat dolls.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:09 a.m. CST

    'stereotypes' by BadMrWonka

    by spasticus

    You say the black characters in transformers are stereotypes.But one was a hacker who liked video games who was quite cowardly.And the other was a used car salesman trying to make a buck(like all car salesman. Now i thought the stereotype of black men was they were gangbangers or crackheads or are just there to be the 'cool' one.These characters fit none of the stereotypes i'm aware of. And the female lead was an attractive girl who was strong willed and was a pro mechanic(hardly a female stereotype)The other female in the movie was the best hacker(and the only one that didnt look like a nerd.So smart skilled strong females are stereotypes. Admit it you just wanted a dumb chick in a bikini blowing optimus. You dirty boy.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:10 a.m. CST

    Is this a film about toys?

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    I'm not sure I understand this one. I remember there being these toys called Transformers that were various vehicles that turned into vehicle-shaped robots. Is that what this is?<p>Are the toys animated, like a stop motion kind of thing, or is it a cartoon?<p>Either way, what a good idea! Making toys into a film sounds like perfect entertainment for small children or retarded adults.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:16 a.m. CST

    You guys are all pretentious cockholes

    by angelopoulos

    You will be lined up like little fan-boy bitches on the 29th, as will I.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:22 a.m. CST

    hilarious.

    by Lost Jarv

    Frank posted about being perfect for retards and then look at the post directly below. <P>QED.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:26 a.m. CST

    My thoughts

    by mode_7

    1) I don't understand the "Transformers was exactly what I expected it to be, therefore it is good" argument. Fucking Meet The Spartans was exactly what I expected it to be. Dogshit. <p> 2) Why people claim that it's silly and dumb because it's based on a cartoon. Have you gone back and actually watched some of those old shows? Or the 80's movie? The original show actually had way deeper and better written characters, far more mature and complex themes and plots that largely made fucking sense and remained true to their own internal logic. In short, defenders of Bay's Transformer movie are defending a DUMBED DOWN adaptation of a show made for fucking eight year olds. <p> 3) Finally, I don't understand that quote from Bay where was talking about conservation of mass and how he didn't want to cheat with the designs of the robots and have parts disappear like they did in the show. Is Bay actually aware that they made toys that were physical objects that exist out here in the real fucking world or what? What the fuck is wrong with him? And then the stupid cunt threw the whole thing out the window with that big cube thing that magically transformed into a tiny cube.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:28 a.m. CST

    maybe they can put a transforming squid at the end

    by just pillow talk

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:29 a.m. CST

    I don't think that language is appropriate, angelopoulos

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Children will be reading this website, eager for news about filmed versions of all their favourites like Transformers or Care Bears or Dora The Explorer, and they won't be used to words like 'c***holes' and 'b****es'.<p>Please spare a thought for this film's audience before filling the air with your foul verbiage.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:33 a.m. CST

    Any chance of a Ben 10 movie?

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    My son loves to play with his Ben 10 toys, and I know his little face would just light up upon seeing all his toys up there on the big screen.<p>Can one of you guys who knows so much about Transformers let me know whether the Ben 10 film is on the way?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:35 a.m. CST

    Jarv and Pillow

    by Abominable Snowcone

    Warciples!<p> Kentucky Clnl, I loved Iron Giant.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:36 a.m. CST

    what the fuck is ben 10

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:37 a.m. CST

    Do you suppose Michael Bay

    by Abominable Snowcone

    or his scriptwriters will include another "are you masturbating in there" sequence to make parents like myself have to explain when they get home with their kids what would otherwise be an ok-for-kids movie? Damn you, Michael Bay. Damn you for that. Robots peeing on legs was not enough. You had to bring up jacking off.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:38 a.m. CST

    Please, scotsman75

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Think about the children.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:39 a.m. CST

    think about the children?what?

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:40 a.m. CST

    I'd like to see a trailer

    by Abominable Snowcone

    like that Michael Bay commercial, where he would walk around explaining "In Transformers 2 we're going to have AWESOME hot dog stands...KABLOOEY...an AWESOME subway train...KABLOOEY...an awesome coca-cola machine...KABLOOEY" stuff like that. I'd respect him more if he sold it that way.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:40 a.m. CST

    Are you saying these robots masturbate, Mr Snowcone?

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Now I'm not too sure if this is the right film for little Frank, Jnr.<p>How can toys masturbate, anyway? Or urinate, for that matter?<p>I am just a concerned parent and not well informed about these things.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:41 a.m. CST

    In TINO2

    by Abominable Snowcone

    instead of masturbaton references, Bay will feature inferences to rimming, tossing salad, munching carpet, felching, and Cleveland steamers. So parents, get ready to explain those.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:42 a.m. CST

    Mind your language, scotsman75

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Many, many children, along with concerned parents like myself, will be reading this site for news about this new film about toys.<p>Please do not inflict your appalling language on them.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:43 a.m. CST

    Franklin T

    by Abominable Snowcone

    Don't you remember that part in the first movie where Sam is in his bedroom looking for the glasses, and he's stalling for time because the robots are waiting outside, and his mom and dad are banging on the door? His mom asked whether he was "masturbating in there." I mean, to you and I, yeah, that's funny. To an eight year old girl, it's a lecture at home waiting to happen.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:45 a.m. CST

    little note to franklin

    by scotsman75

    FUCK ,CUNT,MOTHERFUCKER,ASSHOLE,PRICK,BASTARD,FUCK FACE,COCK SUCKER,PUSSY, DO U LIKE THOSE WORDS? NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP U WINEING FUCK

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:46 a.m. CST

    CUNT...CUNT...CUNT

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:47 a.m. CST

    WINEING?

    by mode_7

    I thouhgt my speling was bad.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:47 a.m. CST

    Masturbation is most certainly not funny

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    And NOT AT ALL appropriate for a film about children's toys.<p>It is sinful and shameful, much like scotsman75's terrible, terrible language.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:47 a.m. CST

    IS YOUR SECOND NAME FLANDERS?YOU FUCKING CUNT

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:47 a.m. CST

    scotsman

    by Abominable Snowcone

    I'll pray for you...<p> ...and your gaping wet slit of a garbage compactor mouth, for the love of St. Peter upside down on the cross...Fu-uhck :)

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:48 a.m. CST

    MEGn foxATRON

    by g-ride9000

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:49 a.m. CST

    FUCK ME,I MUST BE THE FIRST PERSON TO SWEAR ON THE BOARDS

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:50 a.m. CST

    Franklin T

    by Abominable Snowcone

    You must not have seen the first Transformer movie--it's in there. Others will vouch. I can't recall if the movie was PG or PG13. At 13, I think most of us knew what masturbation was. But at 8-10, most kids don't, and moviemakers should expect that some parents will indeed take their kids to the giant robot movie even if it's PG13, and they should know that a reference to a sex act like that would be a bit of a curveball for ol' mom and dad in the suburbs.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:50 a.m. CST

    IF YER KIDS R READING,SANTA ISNT REAL WAHAHAHHAHAHA

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:51 a.m. CST

    You are an angry little boy, scotsman75

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Clearly, your parents did not teach you the importance of proper etiquette.<p>It disgusts me that this man, Michael Bay, has tried to create an enjoyable entertainment for children, and you have sullied it with your your awful potty mouth.<p>Shame on you, scotsman75.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:51 a.m. CST

    TRANSFORMERS WANKERS IN DISGUISE

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:51 a.m. CST

    Abominable

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    Michael Bay is an idiot.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:52 a.m. CST

    FRANKLIN DO U MASTERBATE TO MEGAN FOX???

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:52 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    Hey, who invited Begbie?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:53 a.m. CST

    CAUSE I DO,ID SHOOT A LOAD ON HER FACE ANYDAY

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:53 a.m. CST

    the arguing is pointless

    by j2talk

    fun,but pointless.....people liked the movie the box office $$$ proved it...and you'll never convince people who liked it, that they didn't or vice versa....same as you never convince people that Star Trek is better than Star Wars or that TDK was the best picture...

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:53 a.m. CST

    NOW FUCK OFF U CHURCH GOING PRICK

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Would you swear like that in a toy shop?

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Or in a children's playground?<p>That language may impress your friends down at the docks, but it should never be heard in places where children congregate.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Franklin T

    by Abominable Snowcone

    I mean, in a PG13 movie, even if your kid is say, 9, as a parent you can predetermine whether the child can handle a certain amount of violence, or even profanity, onscreen. It's quite another thing to have a character in the movie verbally reference a real-life sex act that the moviemaker knows full well that most kids won't have heard of before. The parent can expect a certain amount of fighting and cartoon violence. They can anticipate a little sexual innuendo (like Megan leaning over the carhood). But there's no way of knowing a specific reference like that is coming. That's what I'm getting at.<p> scotman, your mouth is a filthy anus, I will pray for you

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:54 a.m. CST

    No more

    by jefflebowski

    I will never waste another cent of my money or even another kb of bandwidth or the time it would take to download the pirated copy of the this film. A pox on the house of Bay and anyone who actually defends/enjoys the first film or is planning on seeing this next one.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:54 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    Megan Fox? Not if I can help it.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:55 a.m. CST

    DOWN AT THE DOCKS???? WAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:55 a.m. CST

    IM TALKING TO THE REAL LIFE NED FLANDERS HERE,FUCK ME

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:56 a.m. CST

    FUCK MICHAEL BAY!!!!

    by FuckMichaelBay

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:56 a.m. CST

    FUCK MICHAEL BAY!!!!

    by FuckMichaelBay

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:56 a.m. CST

    FUCK MICHAEL BAY!!!!

    by FuckMichaelBay

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:57 a.m. CST

    And IMPRISON TOM BODET!!!!!!!!!!

    by FuckMichaelBay

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:57 a.m. CST

    SCOTSMAN75......

    by fractaljinn

    IS A NOOB

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:57 a.m. CST

    Violence?

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Violence in a film about children's toys?<p>I am HORRIFIED to read this. Can this really be true?<p>Will the Ben 10 film also be violent?<p>What next, making a film about Dora The Explorer's adventures as a filthy lesbian?<p>This is disgraceful.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:57 a.m. CST

    SHAME ON YOU,NO FUCKING SWEARING IN HERE

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:57 a.m. CST

    G rated nudity

    by Frank Black

    Megan Fox needs to be naked in the next one. I was watching the original Planet of the Apes the other day, rated G and there is an extended nude sequence with three dudes (including Heston) in the beginning. We need to get back to the days of G rated nudity and we need to start here.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:58 a.m. CST

    OH NO HE CALLED ME A NOOB,IM SO OFFENDED

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:58 a.m. CST

    Franklin

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    Dora isn't a filthy lesbian? I'm assuming I'm watching something different at 11pm then.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:59 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    You're a right Begbie.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 9:59 a.m. CST

    FRANKLIN YOUR SONS BEEN JERKING HIS COCK FOR 2 YEARS OVER MEGAN

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10 a.m. CST

    I DONT KNOW 1 FUCKIN PERSON WHO DOESNT SWEAR DO U?

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:02 a.m. CST

    There's nudity, too?

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Surely this is some kind of joke. What is the world coming to when this film - which is obviously designed only to appeal to children and those who have unfortunate mental disabilities - would feel the need to stoop to such cheap tactics as violence and nudity?<p>There must be someone I can write to to complain about this.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:02 a.m. CST

    FRANKLIN GO TELL YER MAMMY,FUCK OFF

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:03 a.m. CST

    Megan Fox

    by darthvedder81

    Was a babe but didn't anyone think it was weird how Bay shot all of her scenes like a "Playboy" video. Oh wait... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0471307/

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:03 a.m. CST

    Frank Black

    by Abominable Snowcone

    Oh yeah, you mean that part in Planet of the Apes where the spaceship crashes, and the three guys get out, and go skinny-dipping, they they felate and sodomize each other and shoot loads in faces, just to take the edge off, you know, they've been in cryosleep so long and the chick died in transit, and after sucking each other's meat staffs, they shoot each other in the heads, and brain and blood and bone fragment particulate splatters all over. <p> Yeah, that was rated "G" in '69

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:05 a.m. CST

    by scotsman75

    FRANKLIN ILL LIFT UP MY KILT,AND U CAN SUCK MY HAIRY PLUMS U FUCKIN NERD

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:08 a.m. CST

    I guess it was walking a fine line

    by Abominable Snowcone

    Bay wanted the movie, a movie based on kids toys, to appeal to both younger kids (who would buy the toys today) and somewhat older kids. Unfortunately, as mentioned here, his idea of gearing it to older kids meant objectifying Megan Fox with centerfold type shots, and references to jerking off and golden showers. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm all for that kind of humor in an R picture, but not one I might consider taking the kids to. I don't need my 9-year old daughter thinking that the lascivious way Sam looked at Megan is the way all men see women. <p> Even if it is.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:08 a.m. CST

    kenjinattix

    by TiPPiDa

    Mate.... I wont respond to your whole "a thousand monkeys working on a thousand typewriters" post because it would take me too long and I have kids to raise.<P> so I'll just start with the end.<P> "Why? Why hold something at such a low standard? That we love? If thats the case we should do this to every horrible movie out there and excuse it. Like Batman & Robin or Exit Wounds or Catwoman or Cradle to the Grave or Torque or Meet Dave or Daddy Day Care or Fire Down Below or anything by Uwe Bol. If you can't. If you can't turn off your brain and enjoy those movies why should you enjoy this. That is my objective review" I can turn the brain off with Transformers because I DO care, and DO love it.. I was a Transformers fan, I loved the crap outta it... 15 years ago. <P>I wanted this movie to work because of that love, I want this film to entertain me. I never cared enough about the other movies you listed to warrant a chance to do that, and its not about lowering expectations or standards, its about sitting there and saying "Okay film, you have 2 hours of my time.. entertain me", which essentially, is what I go to the movies for. Now, it may not have done the job for you, but that's not my issue, I'm not really interested in who else liked it. It entertained me, so it did its job, so much so that I saw it twice in theatres, and I bought the bluray, and its great for when I want to pop it in and forget shit outside of the movie.<P> Nitpicky shit like this is why Chris Nolan deserves an oscar, because people who are too close to the source material (see:nerds) are far too hard to please, and yet.. he did it. Big Time. <P>You say its bad to hold something you love to a low standard.. is it not just as damaging to hold the standards and expectations too high?. Say you have a child, (I'm not making assumptions, but just for the exercise lets say you do), a boy, bright, energetic, charismatic, adorable. just for example.. now you love and care and want the best for that boy. lets say your expectation of that child is that he will grow up, go to college, find a girl, get married, have kids, grow old, etc because that's what his brother did 14 years ago. Do you love that child any less if he came home one day as a 19 year old and said "I'm going to go to art school in New York and live with my boyfriend"?... does it make you love him less because your picture of what it should be isn't what it is?, or do you accept it and keep on loving it?. Its a long bow to draw, I know.. but its late where I am, I can't sleep and its the best I got haha. Bottom line.. You didn't like Transformers.. well... shit happens.. and although I think its sad you're missing out, I am not going to try and convince you to love it, just as my opinion wont be swayed by anyone else on here. I'll just accept you don't like it and be done. Have a great day. :)

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:09 a.m. CST

    transformers 2 more tits more pussy

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Cheers, scotsman75

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    That was fun.<p>Fucking fun.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:14 a.m. CST

    now now franklin your swearing

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:14 a.m. CST

    Bay U BITCH

    by Rommel Catuncan

    Sorry to call you a bitch like that but Bay made fun of other movies with trailers showing their own giant robots. This was clearly a slam on T4 and McG, who we know can be very hurt reading the comments on here about his name and his reputation and gets defensive at BNATS but now Bay slams him and suddenly T4 is all about copying Transformers. After all his hard work, man. I mean McG must be going red now. I mean for a ginge. The internet can be a very hurtful place.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:16 a.m. CST

    Franklin T is really...

    by skycrapper

    Dannygloversdickblood! dun...dun duuuuun...

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:17 a.m. CST

    That's the point, scotsman75

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Get it?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:18 a.m. CST

    TRANSFORMERS 3

    by scotsman75

    TRANSFORMERS 3 WILL BE SET IN SCOTLAND,BAGPIPES TRANSFORMING INTO ROBOTS,MCOPTIMUS PRIME,I CAN SEE IT NOW

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:18 a.m. CST

    "I'm going to go to art school in New York

    by Rommel Catuncan

    and live with my boyfriend" <P> If only my son were this interesting!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:19 a.m. CST

    Danny's a good guy

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    But he's not me.<p>I love James Cameron, for a start.<p>We do both speak fluent fake French, though.<p>P.S. If you read this, Hey, Danny!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:19 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    Stop being such a prize dunce, you regular haphazard troll like cretin.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:20 a.m. CST

    DANNY GLOVER HASNT SPOKE WITHOUT A LISP SINCE LEATHAL WEAPON 3

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:22 a.m. CST

    FRANKLIN JUST DISCOVERED SARCASM

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:22 a.m. CST

    ANYONE ELSE SICK OF SHIT EATING USA SITCOMS WITH CANNED LAUGHTER

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:23 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    I find them funnier than your trolling.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:24 a.m. CST

    TROLLING??? IS THAT ANOTHER GEEK TERM?

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:25 a.m. CST

    Instead of "Revenge is coming"

    by Abominable Snowcone

    why not say "More Flames on Optimus Are Coming..."<p> The new McDonald happy meal for the film will include a Megan Fox action figure in a midriff shirt and miniskirt jeans which are removable so you can bend her over for rearward entry...would you like fries with that?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:27 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    Yes, you half-wit. Just like 'squid' 'nipples on Batsuit' and 'I hate Dannyglover...'

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:28 a.m. CST

    Fucking scots

    by Lost Jarv

    I mean really, you cross the English border and you're surrounded by skirt wearing bitches that are 2 tight to buy a round and still paint their fucking pug ugly ginger mugs blue. <P>Not to mention their horrific looking women.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:29 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    If you typed your trolling in the style of a Scottish brogue, I might laugh...a little.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:29 a.m. CST

    scottish and fukin proud of it

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:30 a.m. CST

    Interesting fact about Scotland

    by Lost Jarv

    only country in the world who's national anthem boils down to "We're shit now, but used to be quite good".

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:30 a.m. CST

    well i would but u dumb ignorant yanks dont get it

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Yank?

    by Lost Jarv

    Please, peasant, try harder. Frank isn't American either.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:32 a.m. CST

    scotsman75 - OY

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    I'm a dumb ignorant Brit, get it right.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:32 a.m. CST

    by scotsman75

    typical yank thinks we all live in castles and play bagpipes fuckin thick as fuck

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:33 a.m. CST

    i liked the flames , the old Optimus was boring

    by j2talk

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:33 a.m. CST

    BRIT?

    by scotsman75

    SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN,THAT SONE OF 4 COUNTRYS,SCOTLAND ENGLAND,WALES OR NORTHERN IRELAND

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:33 a.m. CST

    reading isn't your strong suit is it?

    by Lost Jarv

    bear in mind, this is the country that gave the world the deep fried pizza.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:34 a.m. CST

    scotsman75#

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    You mean you don't? Damn, I lost the bet.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:34 a.m. CST

    Where in Scotland?

    by npjs55

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:34 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    English born, go to Uni in Wales.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:34 a.m. CST

    This explains the whole pyramids thing...

    by KongMonkey

    Clearly see an Egyptian head dress on this thing. More than likely feed us the whole "Aliens built the fucking pyramids" cliche again. Maybe they'll anal probe Megan Fox, then I'll see it.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:34 a.m. CST

    And I know you don't live in castles

    by Lost Jarv

    you live in run down council estates, drink Tenants super and buckfast and regularly knife each other in an ownership dispute over 2p.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:35 a.m. CST

    I always the Scottish people said foookin instead of fukin

    by skycrapper

    correct me if im wrong...

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:36 a.m. CST

    by scotsman75

    AYE ,WE ALSO GAVE U THE TELEVISON AND RADIO,PENASILIN,TELEPHONE,GOLF AND SO ON,BEST ENGINEERING IN THE WORLD

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:36 a.m. CST

    NO WE NEVER SAY FOOKIN,WE SAY FUCKIN

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:37 a.m. CST

    If your Kid is old enough to watch a PG movie...

    by conspiracy

    and doesn't know, or hasn't figured out what masturbation is yet; well, I hate too tell you...but that kid is full retard. Then again you are probably just lying to yourself that he/she doesn't know. Denying your own child's growing maturity, as a way of denying your own advancing age, is a common psychological malady. It is why you see parents apparently unaware that their 11yr old daughter is dressed like a whore, or that their 13yr old is having sex with the babysitter, and why GROWN, Otherwise MATURE adults can seemingly stomach sitting through a prepubescent targeted, horribly acted, CGI wankfest, shit storm like Transformers and think it is good.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:37 a.m. CST

    One thing I've learnt about Scotland today

    by Droid

    Their schools don't teach spelling or punctuation.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:38 a.m. CST

    MR ,ZED,BRIT DOESNT MEAN ENGLISH

    by scotsman75

    IT MEANS UNION OF 4 COUNTRYS THAT MAKE UP THE UK

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Television was actually german

    by Lost Jarv

    penicillin was a fluke, Marconi was Italian (you ignorant celtic get), and Golf is a good walk ruined.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:39 a.m. CST

    or even one country and 3 colonies.

    by Lost Jarv

    and you know it.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:40 a.m. CST

    SCOTLAND FOREVER

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:40 a.m. CST

    They like to play football too...(that's soccer to us yanks)

    by skycrapper

    There, another Scottland lesson for you. Freeeeeeeeeedoooom! (my guts just got ripped out)

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:40 a.m. CST

    NAME ONE NATION THAT LIKES THE ENGLISH

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:41 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Hey, I've seen TRAINSPOTTING. So, I know you Scots also shit the bed and swim in toilets.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:42 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    You're being schooled, sir... or M'aam.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:42 a.m. CST

    SCOTTISH AND FUKIN PROUD OF IT

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:42 a.m. CST

    TINO2

    by Abominable Snowcone

    Megan Fox...More Than Meets My Iron Hard Piping Hot Castrol Lubricated Piston

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:43 a.m. CST

    TINO2

    by Abominable Snowcone

    DNA in Bumblebee's back seat...and in Megan's mouth and orifi

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:44 a.m. CST

    That's like saying "Down Syndrome and Fukin Proud of it"

    by Lost Jarv

    Ken?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:44 a.m. CST

    TINO2

    by Abominable Snowcone

    Dedicated to Bernie Mac, the man who would have sold Bumblebee, had Bumblebee not, you know, been a giant fighting robot who sprang to life and drove off the lot on his own, the prick.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Megan Fox

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    Guys, you can do better.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Badass!

    by shaft478

    Looks cool

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:45 a.m. CST

    scotland the only nation to fight a terrorist attack

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:45 a.m. CST

    TINO2

    by Abominable Snowcone

    might be fun, but Rambo V will be raping my eyeballs inside of two years

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:45 a.m. CST

    says a lot about us

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:46 a.m. CST

    David Tennant?

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    Has he graced our TB?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:46 a.m. CST

    TINO2

    by Abominable Snowcone

    Megan...Nude Supine Akimbo and Wet

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:46 a.m. CST

    TINO

    by Droid

    Except that it had giant fuck-off robots which transformed into stuff.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:46 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    Is it really a fight if the other side runs away immediately upon landing?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:47 a.m. CST

    "scotland the only nation to fight a terrorist attack"

    by Lost Jarv

    what? when? <P>And how does that make up for being colonised for 400 years?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:48 a.m. CST

    mr zedd

    by scotsman75

    did u not hear about the terrorist attck on glasgow airport a year ago,and we kicked the shit out of them

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:50 a.m. CST

    It's still going to suck

    by Faust_8

    just like the last one

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:50 a.m. CST

    we have never been defeated,we are still here

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:51 a.m. CST

    Fight the power scotsman!

    by just pillow talk

    Don't let these deranged Brits get to ya!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:51 a.m. CST

    oooooh. The one where the cretin drove a car

    by Lost Jarv

    into a concrete barrier and then set himself on fire. <P>That's hardly taking on the forces of Al Qaeda single handedly, is it old chap?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:52 a.m. CST

    ahhh, I love TF talkbacks

    by finky089

    it's not quite 2006 all over again, but....

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:52 a.m. CST

    americans worst soldiers on earth

    by scotsman75

    gung ho trigger happy loud mouth retards,killing there own men

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:52 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    If it's the one from June 2007, while it is cool I hardly think you guys brought down an entire terrorist cell. Just two fucktards, one of who was already on fire.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:52 a.m. CST

    kenjinattix

    by Judge Briggs

    I loved the review... HILARIOUS... the only thing you missed was how every line from Optimus was about robots living in freedom, blah blah... I felt like I was listening to some dumbass Bush speech.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:53 a.m. CST

    We know

    by Lost Jarv

    we can fucking smell you. <P>Amazing, all those accomplishments and you still haven't mastered soap. <P>I bet you're a weegie, aren't you?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:53 a.m. CST

    Russell Crowe is the only guy to have fought cancer

    by Droid

    with his trusty pal Tugger.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:54 a.m. CST

    pillow talk

    by scotsman75

    a brit can be a scottsman,english man,welsh man,or northern irland,BRIT DOES NOT MEAN ENGLANDM,SCOTLAND IS A COUNTRY IN BRITIAN U FUKIN RETARD

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:55 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    I didn't mean England was the only Britain, you half-wit. But being English makes me British.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:55 a.m. CST

    hey Scotsman, that's just the rednecks, subway riders, &

    by finky089

    ..ok, you sorta got me. It does seemto be a rampant part of US culture. Look at it this way, we kill enough of each other off and maybe it helps the world become a better place. <p> tho, personally I'd start with less Michael Bay tripe. but loud mouth retards knocking each other off might work, too.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:56 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by just pillow talk

    Well, you are deranged, are you not?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:57 a.m. CST

    hey pillow & Jarv

    by finky089

    been a long time

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:57 a.m. CST

    U SAID DONT LET THE BRITS GET TO YA

    by scotsman75

    SCOTS ARE BRITS U FUKIN TIT

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:58 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    Chill on the National Pride. Some of us hate our home countries. Especially England, run by a slavering toss-pot.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:58 a.m. CST

    sadly, this is true.

    by Lost Jarv

    But not for much longer if you morons get your way.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:59 a.m. CST

    William Wallace: Scottish Paedophile

    by mode_7

    The worst kind of paedophile there is. (c)Stewart Lee 2005

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:59 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    Tit? You slighted Americans, you utter Dick Van Dyke.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Scotsman settle down, dude

    by finky089

    you can't get uppity about shit liek "who's really a Brit" on AICN Tb's. Just whether Michael Bay eats cock or not, whether LOTR is better than SW, or whether somebody is a racist for making certain comments in an AICN obit. Leave the geography lesson out of it.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:59 a.m. CST

    EDUCATION FOR DUMB PEOPLE

    by scotsman75

    BRITIAN OR UNITED KINGDOM,IS A UNION OF 4 COUNTRYS,SCOTLAND,WALES,NORTHERN IRELAND,4 SEPERATE COUNTRYS UNITED AND CALLED THE UK OR BRITAIN

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:59 a.m. CST

    "England, run by a slavering toss-pot"

    by Lost Jarv

    Run by a slavering SCOTTISH toss-pot. <P>Who they'll have to take back when they get independance.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11 a.m. CST

    AMERICANS THINK BRIT MEANS ENGLISH

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:01 a.m. CST

    AYE AND YER ENGLISH GOVERMENT HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OVER THE YEARS

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:01 a.m. CST

    Oh, Brown can go back to Scotland

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    Useless dunderhead.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:01 a.m. CST

    SCOTSMAN YOU CANT EAT HAGGID WITH YOUR MOUTH...

    by fractaljinn

    Cuase its All Full of Shit! You stuff it up your Rectum INSTEAD!:D

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:02 a.m. CST

    Shave an ape...

    by Droid

    He's still an ape.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:02 a.m. CST

    AND REMEMBER THAT..ENGLAND IS RAN BY A SCOT HAHAHHA

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:02 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    Because your idiotic countryman Gordon Brown kept ruining the economy.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:03 a.m. CST

    HAGGID???

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:03 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    Who we didn't vote in. Second we can vote, he's out.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:03 a.m. CST

    SCOTLAND RULES ENGLAND WAHAHAHHAHAHA

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:03 a.m. CST

    This is why I can't stand Europeans.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    They are either stupid or smell like arm pits. And thats a fucking fact. <P> Are we entirely sure Michael Bay is not British?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:04 a.m. CST

    YESI MEANT HAGGID! YOU DONT DESERVE HAGGIS! :D

    by fractaljinn

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:04 a.m. CST

    SCOTS AND IRISH ARE LOVED WORLDWIDE

    by scotsman75

    BECAUSE WE ARE SIMILAR PEOPLE,ENGLISH R DISLIKED WORLDWIDE THATS A FACT

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Scotsman, I'm starting to wonder if the "slavering toss-pot"

    by finky089

    is really a self-description. Enjoy your lunacy. Afterall, it IS a TF talkback and what would it be without its characters?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:05 a.m. CST

    I AM IRSH!

    by fractaljinn

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:05 a.m. CST

    CANT STAND EUROPEANS?

    by scotsman75

    THAT NARROWS IT DOWN EH? EUROPS LIKE 30 COUNTRYS U FUKIN RETARD

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Your mistaking "loved" for "pitied"

    by Lost Jarv

    I blame state education.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Scotsman75 is DISLIKED WORLDWIDE

    by finky089

    THATS A FACT

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Scots and Irish are made fun of worldwide

    by Droid

    There's a difference.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:07 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    It's 'fucking' and 'Europe is' rather than 'fuking' and 'Europes'

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Looks like Sauron

    by Cat_Corporation

    Get yer own ideas!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:07 a.m. CST

    oh no you didn't...

    by skycrapper

    you awoke the dickblood...

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:08 a.m. CST

    From the director of the 2007 MTV Movie Award Winner...

    by rhcp2sweet

    comes transformers 2!!!!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:08 a.m. CST

    Scotland Rules England?

    by Lost Jarv

    uh-huuuuh. <p>How's the Scottish parliament working out for you? Pleased they spent £600m on a building? I thought you lot were meant to be parsimonious.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:08 a.m. CST

    SCOTLAND FOREVER

    by scotsman75

    SCOTTISH AND PROUD OF IT

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:08 a.m. CST

    Fuck Scotland

    by mode_7

    Even Sean Connery ain't been back to the homeland for 20 fucking years, and he, as you all know, is supreme emperor of Scotland.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:09 a.m. CST

    "EUROPS LIKE 30 COUNTRYS", but there's only 1 Scotsman75

    by finky089

    fortunate for us. What a spelling champ! Must be that state education.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:09 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Actually there are 48 countries in Europe and I can't stand any of them. Except maybe the Czech Republic. They're the only one with women that don't look like Quentin Tarantino.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:09 a.m. CST

    by scotsman75

    CELTS ARE LOVED,ENGLISH ARNT,END OF

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:10 a.m. CST

    Czech Republic

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    All the women there look like Eli Roth.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:10 a.m. CST

    RE: G Rated Nudity

    by rhcp2sweet

    Us fanboys will finally get to see what we've been asking for since Transformers: that's right, Shia's ass in full IMAX glory!!!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:10 a.m. CST

    Scotsman75 is making me hate plaid

    by finky089

    more than I already did

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:11 a.m. CST

    MUST BE THAT ENGLISH GOVERMENT EDUCATION I HAD

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:11 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    Is that why Trainspotting had to be dubbed in every non British country because no-one had a clue what the characters were saying? Or why Mel Gibson played William Wallace? Or why Sean Connery doesn't live in Scotland? Or why Gordon Brown is a Politician in Englan instead of helping the Scottish Government?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Scotsman75 is making me hate bagpipe music

    by finky089

    more than I already did

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:12 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    Not really, most of us taught in England can spell.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:12 a.m. CST

    HOW CAN U SAY U HATE EUROPEANS

    by scotsman75

    WHEN U COULDNT EVEN NAME THE COUNTRYS N EUROPE AND KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THEM

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:12 a.m. CST

    SCOTLAND FOREVER

    by Lost Jarv

    Scotland forever what? <P>Scotland forever Europe's heart attack capital? <P>Scotland forever highest instance of child abuse in the british Isles? <P>Scotland forever a dismal and rainy offshoot of England that we'd float off into the north Atlantic if we could? <P>Any of those accurate?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:13 a.m. CST

    RE: Sir Connery......

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    If the parliament of the Commonwealth of The Bahamas is more appetizing than that of your home nation, than you know you got some serious problems.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Scotsman75 is making me hate Scrooge McDuck

    by finky089

    which is a shame b/c I had fond memories of Ducktales

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:13 a.m. CST

    TRAINSPOTTING BRILLIANT MOVIE

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:13 a.m. CST

    BRIGHTER poster pic here

    by ReekPoodoo

    http://tinyurl.com/84p7oc

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Like means similar 2

    by Lost Jarv

    Europe is a continent, so therefore is nothing "like" 30 countries. It may contain over 30 countries, but it is not "like" 30 countries. <P>Ignorant jock piss drinking peasant.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:14 a.m. CST

    *GIVES SCOTMANS THE ONE FINGER SALUTE*

    by fractaljinn

    I SUPPORT YOU DICKFACE COCK FUCKING SUCKER!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:15 a.m. CST

    WHY IS IT ENGLAND NEVER DEFEATED SCOTLAND?

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:16 a.m. CST

    ANYWAY BACK TO TRANSFORMWERS 2

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:16 a.m. CST

    Scotland is The Whore of the Atlantic

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    They are to Europe, what Michael Bay is to cinema-- a thorn in my fucking asshole that needs to go the fuck away. <p>There is a reason 98% of the world's porn is shot in the beautiful San Fernando Valley-- because white bitches in Europe look like they have fucking dongs!!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:16 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    Chill on the Patriotism, the TB doesn't respond well to Nationalistic pride.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:16 a.m. CST

    BECAUSE ENGLAND COULDNT BE ARSED WITH SOMETHING THEY COULD DO IN

    by fractaljinn

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:16 a.m. CST

    AICN:

    by mode_7

    Making xenophobia and casual racism fun since 1997. Next up, the greasy Italians.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:16 a.m. CST

    Because there weren't any spelling bees...

    by Droid

    in the middle ages.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:16 a.m. CST

    I THINK IT WILL BE A GOOD MOVIE

    by scotsman75

    I LOVED THE FIRST ONE

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:17 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    Because we didn't want Scotland...

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:17 a.m. CST

    Finky, Jarv, Pillow, DGDB

    by Abominable Snowcone

    It's a regular Warciples convention.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:18 a.m. CST

    Warciples UNITE -- TO DESTROY SCOTLAND!!

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Don't worry boys, they fall fast because they spend all day drinking away their economic woes!!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:18 a.m. CST

    WHEN U SAY EUROPE,MAY AS WELL SAY EARTH

    by scotsman75

    DOESNT EXACTLY NARROW IT DOWN,MEANS NOTHING TO ME

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:18 a.m. CST

    OH THANK GOD WE AGREE ON SOMETHING!

    by fractaljinn

    For christs sake...

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:19 a.m. CST

    ANYWAY BACK TO TRANSFORMERS

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:20 a.m. CST

    mode_7

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    Hold on, sir.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:20 a.m. CST

    YANKS MAKE GREAT MOVIES

    by scotsman75

    ILL GIVE U THAT

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:20 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    You wanna seriously discuss a Transformers movie? <p> Oh fuck this. I'm outta here.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:20 a.m. CST

    Of course Europe means nothing to you

    by Droid

    You're obviously mentally challenged.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:22 a.m. CST

    EUROPE

    by scotsman75

    U SAY EUROPEAN WOMAN LIKE THERE ALL THE SAME,HOW CAN U COMPARE WOMAN FROM 48 DIFFERENT COUNTRIES????

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:22 a.m. CST

    You can take the caps lock off...

    by skycrapper

    We all know you are yelling at the computer screen.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:23 a.m. CST

    AMERICA AND CANADA ARE THE SAME

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Transformers

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    That's it, I'm out. I didn't come here to discuss films.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:23 a.m. CST

    I LOVE STIRRING U CUNTS UP

    by scotsman75

    LOOK HOW MANY U ARSEHOLES IVE PISSED OFF WAAHAHHAHAHA

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:24 a.m. CST

    Original Transformers Animated movie Soundtrack way better.

    by kenjinattix

    TRANSFORMERRRRRRSSSSS... dahnahnahnah ... TRANSSSFORRRMMMERRRRSSSSSSSSSS .... more than meets the EYYYEEEEE! Something evil's watching over you Comin' from the sky above And there's nothing you can do Prepare to strike There'll be no place to run

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:24 a.m. CST

    OK BACK TO TRANSFORMWERS

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:25 a.m. CST

    You haven't pissed any of us off, scotsman75

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    But you have, to paraphrase Michael Wincott in The Crow, put a smile on our faces.<p>Have a good weekend, buddy.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:25 a.m. CST

    by kenjinattix

    When you're caught up in the grip of the EVIL UNICRON!!!!!!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:25 a.m. CST

    by scotsman75

    TRANSFORMERS 2 WILL BE GREAT I KNOW IT

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:26 a.m. CST

    The poster, in infra-red reveals...

    by Abominable Snowcone

    http://tinyurl.com/78qmrm

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:26 a.m. CST

    scotsman75 = FUCKING LOSER

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    As soon as people get bored with you and start leaving, then you start fighting back? <p> Wow. You are a Shia sorta man's man-- big, strong, and squirrelly.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:27 a.m. CST

    He's WASTED

    by Kentucky Colonel

    Get him some Visine!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:27 a.m. CST

    Scotsman75 is making me hate Braveheart...moreso

    by rhcp2sweet

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:27 a.m. CST

    Are you typing phonetically?

    by Droid

    You speak while you type don't you?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:28 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    In all seriousness. Stay up playa'. Good lookin' out. Respect. <P> Phil Collins is a God. At least we can all agree on that.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:28 a.m. CST

    England Never defeated Scotland?

    by Lost Jarv

    erm, Culloden. Tit. <P>History isn't your strong point either is it.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:28 a.m. CST

    DGDB - "white bitches in Europe look like they have fucking dong

    by finky089

    bwahahaha <p> Abom! What up?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:28 a.m. CST

    by scotsman75

    HEY DONT GET ALL SHITTY,CALM DOWN,ITS ALL GOOD FUN

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:29 a.m. CST

    BadMrWonka AND THE REST:p

    by BERSERKR

    Ok i hope i actually get some responses to my post this time, first of BadMrWonka i am turning 30 in 3 months! so maybe im the oldest here. I grew up on 80;s cartoons, ALL of them, i was a cartoon nut and Transformers was one of my favorite cartoons, and as a fan of the original show, the first film was pretty good! it has room for improvemant yes, but it was not a bad film, and for those of you wondering gee, what other movies does this guy like, Baby Momma, Shrek:P well here are some of my favorite movies. Oldboy, Seven Samurai, Yojimbo and Sanjuro, Branded to Kill, Lord of the Rings, both Kill Bills, The Seventh Seal, Deadman, The Third Man,The Whole Lone Wolf and Cub Series, The Holy Mountain, Pierrot le Fou,Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring, the Original Star wars Trilogy, the list goes on:P

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:29 a.m. CST

    Transpoopy

    by Orionsangels

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:29 a.m. CST

    by scotsman75

    ILL BUY U A PINT,THEN GLASS YOU HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:31 a.m. CST

    ANYWAY FUCK THIS IM OFF

    by scotsman75

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:31 a.m. CST

    droid,

    by Lost Jarv

    that's really funny. I've got visions of a scowling ginger dwarf pounding with 2 fingers at his keyboard while swearing at the monitor.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:31 a.m. CST

    People who hated the Bay Transformers movie list some of your fa

    by BERSERKR

    And i am sure we will all share some of the same and have similar tastes, i doubt anyone who reads AICN really likes most mainstream dribble.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:32 a.m. CST

    Lend me ten pounds

    by Abominable Snowcone

    and I'll buy you a drink...have mother wake me early in the morning

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:33 a.m. CST

    I hated Bays transformers

    by kenjinattix

    My favorite film is The Way of the Gun.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:33 a.m. CST

    If Lucy Pinder has a dong...

    by skycrapper

    boy do I feel dirty...

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Scotsman, you're state funded education is tiresome

    by finky089

    as is your bs patriotism. <p> I bet you're not even scottish. You're probably some suburban white kid from middle America who could only hope to be cool by perpetrating himself as a Scot and looking for some "bad love" on the internet. <p> Sadly, AICN TBs are a decent place to find that kind of thing.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:33 a.m. CST

    There's a reason Rome tried to cut you cunts off

    by Lost Jarv

    by building a wall to keep you out. <P>How have you not evolved in 2000 years? <P>Why did you never manage to invent trousers? <P>Why are you the only nation in Europe with comparable obesity rates to America?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:35 a.m. CST

    and as for your "buy you a pint then glass me" threat

    by Lost Jarv

    Don't lie. Scots never put their hand in their pocket. So I'm pretty safe provided I avoid their backward little settlement.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:36 a.m. CST

    Scotsman75 = Braffed of Scotland?

    by finky089

    his father must have been calling him to the bathroom for his daily flogging.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:37 a.m. CST

    nice link, Abom

    by finky089

    I think I saw Venom in there, too, but I had to turn it upside down and reverse the image and zoom in on the top left corner. <p> Too bad it wasn't Megan F sans clothing.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:37 a.m. CST

    finky.

    by Lost Jarv

    No, last time he saw his father he was flying out the end of his cock.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:38 a.m. CST

    Jarv, do super-Scots like Scotsman even have pockets

    by finky089

    in their wee kilts?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:39 a.m. CST

    when the hell did the transformers talk turn to scottish talk?

    by kenjinattix

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:42 a.m. CST

    Comparable obesity to America....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Than Scots must really know how to fuck. I find I put on weight whenever I eat too much pussy. I take back everything I said about Scotland. Any European nation more American than European is tight with me.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:45 a.m. CST

    Kenjinattix...

    by DeeJay

    ... I don't know the answer to your question. What I *do* know is that if anyone offerred a legitimate criticism of Bay's "Transformers" work, it's been negated by the rapid decline in this board's dialog. It's all good, though. While the first movie had some problems, the assets far outweighed them... and I'm hoping part 2 will take things to the next level.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:45 a.m. CST

    People who cry about the lack of story in Transformers

    by Senzafine

    are probably the same people who shit a brick when someone asks 'Um... isn't The Joker still in Bruce Wayne's penthouse?' after the Cookie Monster dressed as Batman saves Rachel. STOP TELLING ME THE MOST INTELLIGENT MOVIE OF ALL TIMES HAS PLOT HOLEZ! IT'S SO CHILDISH!!! I liked both TDK and Transformers by the way.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:46 a.m. CST

    Is there a squid in this?

    by HoboCode

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Looks like an advert for DIABLO 3 (video game)

    by IAmLegolas

    wow, people are still onboard with this movie franchise?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:59 a.m. CST

    kenjinattix

    by BERSERKR

    I liked Transformers and i thought way of the Gun was good as well, totally different movies for different mindsets.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, noon CST

    Less is Mor ons

    by FILMFUNK

    no!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 12:12 p.m. CST

    for all the bitching on here..

    by El Borak

    i thought this would suck but i dug it a lot. just relax people.<br> <br>btw, anyone know the story of this one?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 12:16 p.m. CST

    Wait..did you actually say Micheal Bay & Character Development?

    by SomaShine

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 12:20 p.m. CST

    Getting back to the subject at hand...

    by jerseycajun

    To answer some of the TB'ers, it's not that you find Transformers to be good, it's that there seems to be an inexplicable void when it comes to explaining why you like it. This is a forum for talking about movies, and it would be awfully boring if every comment in the chain read: "I liked it, and I don't have to defend why I did" or "I didn't like it and I don't have to defend why I didn't"<br></br><br></br>The reason we're here to explain why we like or don't like these movies. So far, I have yet to have one person who liked Transformers clearly articulate the reasons why they liked the movie as a stand-alone movie, not based on absurdly low expectations.<br></br><br></br>Absurdly low? Yes. Because every element of this film save for the SFX fell flat on its face. If we're only judging it by action movie standards, the editing looked like it was done in a Cuisinart, if we're talking about cinematography, the action was shot way too close to the robots to distinguish what you were looking at from a wadded up piece of tin-foil. These are two areas that nearly all mere competent action films accomplish. I'm not even talking about writing, acting, directing or any of the more artistic elements of the film, just the technical ones so far.<br></br><br></br>But there is one big factor that kills the movie over everything else, the factor that forms the basis for why people pay money to go to the movies in the first place: to be told a story about characters you can invest yourself in, or at least laugh at. If we don't care, there's no point except to watch things move, and in the case of Transformers, random movement abounds. However, if this is the standard by which we judge a film successful at achieving its goals, then I would posit that you'd be better off poking sticks into anthills and watch the result. It'll save you the money in gas, ticket and possibly concession prices.<br></br</br></br>So for all of you who defend the movie as worthwhile, don't simply shrug it off. You came to a movie discussion TB, so go to the trouble of telling everyone why you thought is was so good, or worthwhile. What specifically did you see in Transformers that appealed to you. What aspects reached you and made you care enough to defend the film (thus far without much if any detail)? Were you moved when Jazz was 'killed'? Can you honestly say you cared about the fates of the characters? Seriously? If so, illuminate me please by actually examining your support and formulating reasons for why you ended up liking this, because I've seen lots of TB'ers articulate in excruciating detail the large amount that failed.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 12:22 p.m. CST

    El Borak

    by Abominable Snowcone

    Sam takes Megan out for a date in Bumblebee to a drive-in, where he slams the bone home. Then megatron and the decepticons show up, and giant robots fight, and beads of sweat congeal on Megan's breasts.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST

    Megatron a gun....uhhh...he was a gun in the movie...

    by Darth Macchio

    It was an alternate form to the "Alien Jet" form. I realize with shaky cam and those idiot hyper-cuts it is almost impossible to follow the action without re-watching it numerous times. But after re-watching it numerous times I've caught the scene where Megatron actually does turn into a big ass cannon 2 times in Bay's Transformers.<p>And the end city battle when Megatron and Optimus Prime face off finally, Megatron slaps his arms together and makes a big cannon...Prime hits him with something and knocks him back but he then reforms the canon and blasts the shit out of Prime (he flies down the street and smashes into a building). So yes, Megatron was absolutely a big giant fucking canon in Bay's Transformers. It's just that you have to watch it multiple times to catch it. The scene is actually probably the kewlest thing Megatron does in the entire movie. The scene where Prime kills the big Helicopter Decepticon...did you notice he forms a big ass sword (think Voltron) and stabs it thru the Helicopter guy's neck and tears off his head. It's all there if you watch it enough times to catch it...

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 12:26 p.m. CST

    I like Scotland

    by blindambition238

    Except Glasgow. That place is like an amalgam of the lower end commercial district of every other major city in the world. <p> Also Haggis is awe-fucking-some with a pint of Caledon

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 12:27 p.m. CST

    I loved Transformers

    by blindambition238

    Because I was drunk when I first saw it. <p> Caught it on tv recently while sober... holy shit... am I embarassed...

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 12:28 p.m. CST

    I like pie

    by blindambition238

    Cake sucks -_-

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 12:28 p.m. CST

    too late to cry over spilled TF jizz, but...

    by huggerorange

    I agree with most TBers in here , Transformers misfires on quite a few cylinders, to put it kindly...My biggest gripe is the action, which in the end is what this is, a sci-fi action film. The best action scene i can think of was the freeway battle with prime and bonecrusher..that scene couldve been longer. However, they chose several or more speedy but lesser battle scenes. The movie is also clearly lacking tension, everywhere. Every other scene seems to be a payoff/explosion too soon or some character doing something loud, obnoxious, silly or whacky. It seems M. bay is terrified of being still for a fear of being boring perhaps. Just like a great song, a movie needs a build up for that chorus..There are no verses in Tf, just unevenly loud and jerky choruses....I don't buy that excuse that the writers made, that they didn't have enough in the budget to cover lengthier actual transformer scenes..There is plenty that could've been cut to make a tighter better movie. I would rather see 3 or 4 great action sequences than 10-15 choppy, short and incoherent ones.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Transformers 2: Revenging A Cometh.

    by Damien Chowder

    You may think those are eyes but it is the crotch of a fem bot.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Why are people in Bay movies so greased up?

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Have you fucking notices this? Men and women.....after running for 10 seconds on screen will be covered in golden grease and dirty smudges for the rest of the fucking film!!! FACT!! <P. WIlford Brimley: IF I'M LYIN, I'M DYIN'.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 12:42 p.m. CST

    DGDB

    by Abominable Snowcone

    It's called AWESOME sweat. They lube the actors' skin with vasoline, then use a spray bottle to apply water over the top to simulate beaded sweat. It's AWESOME. Especially after an AWESOME jog through the park, an AWESOME football game, AWESOME sex, or an AWESOME battle.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 12:50 p.m. CST

    darth macchio..

    by huggerorange

    lol, too funny, coked up sooccer moms indeed!! Can you imagine james cameron doing a Tf film? Fuck, that'll never happen but one can dream...What happend to action movies anyhow?? It seems every genre still has its balls intact EXCEPT Action..WTF??!! Dramas, Horror(especially!), comedies, indies, etc..We can laugh or cry at someone getting their legs broken or face ripped apart, but its not ok to enjoy it in an action movie. Other genres come out with some wonderfully gruesome disgusting and vile shit but action is out of the question..very few i can remember in the laST 10 years that had any kind o f a nut sack. ITs not that I have dying need to see some gruesome crap, (more tits would be nice), but why pg-13 action and not everything else? It cant be cause of the money, alot R films make money dont they? Unless, its really the money. Fuckers. ass raped T4 too.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 12:50 p.m. CST

    I want to AWESOME on Megan Fox.

    by Damien Chowder

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 12:51 p.m. CST

    A note from an American on the England/Scotsman Argument

    by ChocolateJesusMan

    You know maybe All you Englishmen/Scotsmen would get along better if you had some decent looking women in your countries lets be honest Scottish Women & English "beauties" all look like the ass end of a diseased cow..i think thats the reason for the violence and animosity you have towards each other.. that & the crappy sitcoms you send us to watch on PBS..Rumpole on the Bailey my ass

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 12:53 p.m. CST

    How did a post about transformers 2 teaser poster..

    by emeraldboy

    end up as slagging match between scotland and england. this is a movie website. or was. at somepoint.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 12:55 p.m. CST

    Damien

    by Abominable Snowcone

    you mean, AWESOME LOAD?!<p> AWESOME felatio! AWESOME money shot! AWESOME return to flacidity as she swallows!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 12:57 p.m. CST

    "Revenge Is Coming"

    by brandon11

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 12:58 p.m. CST

    by blindambition238

    Then you find out you caught AWESOME GONORRHEA

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 12:58 p.m. CST

    by brandon11

    1) lamest slogan ever 2) i dont believe you

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:05 p.m. CST

    AWESOME SWEAT IS FUCKING AWESOME!!

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Michael Bay is FUCKING AWESOME!! Robots are......FUCKING AWESOME!! <P> To quote the late, great Wilford Brimley: If I'm lyin, I'm dyin'.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:05 p.m. CST

    and don't knock the coked out soccer moms....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    ...until you've fucked one.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:07 p.m. CST

    ChocolateJesusMan

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Trannies from Miami are hotter than any actual females in England/Scotland. There is something severally fucked up with their faces and hair. And I'm not talking the fucking breast implant pin-up model FHM chicks...I'm talking the actual women you see in line at the grocery store. They look like Steve Buscemi in drag.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:09 p.m. CST

    "It's called AWESOME sweat."

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Ha! Well done, Abominable Snowcone.<P>Strange how DICKBLOOD manages to conjur up the same ideas as Memories-Of-Murder. M-O-M used to complain that Bay filmed Megan Fox in such a way so as to make her look like she had been covered with 10 gallons of semen. Apparently, the cinematic result of hi-def close-ups of a person filmed outdoors, sweating in the California heat were lost on him.<P>What a fucking nutbag!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:12 p.m. CST

    ChocolateJesusMan and Dannyglover

    by blindambition238

    I lived in England for three years thus point sorta always came up with my other 'foreign' friends and me. <p> We pretty much came to the conclusion that its cause they've been basically mating in the same small homogeneous circle for generations. And the food/ diet couldn't be helping either...

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:12 p.m. CST

    KEEP IT COMING MY FELLOW TALKBACKERS!

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Post away like the little minions you are. Keep this TRANSFORMERS Talkback at the top (like its brethren before it) where it belongs.<P>TRANSFORMERS TB = Signature AICN Lunacy<P>THE POWER OF BAY COMPELS YOU!<br>THE POWER OF BAY COMPELS YOU!<br>THE POWER OF BAY COMPELS YOU!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:14 p.m. CST

    blindambition238

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Interesting. Their skin just looks so fucking unhealthy. All the females are a shade of gray. Their pussy probably stinks like vinegar and liver. Fuck that.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:16 p.m. CST

    snowcone, sounds good.

    by El Borak

    AND I'M AN AMERICAN YOU FUCJKSSS!!!!!!!!!!!<br> <br>isn' isn't that what we're doing?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:17 p.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    You seriously think the glaze of grease on all the actor's faces in Transformers is the result of California heat, or are you just being a smart ass? <p> And thats right-- I'm MoM in disguise just because I have a problem with that punk motherfucker DocP.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:18 p.m. CST

    MUTT WILLIAMS and HIS LOVE OF ENEMAS

    by shogunshin

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:18 p.m. CST

    blindambition

    by El Borak

    i was also intoxicated with my friend when i viewed tf at home. maybe that is why i like it?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:19 p.m. CST

    shia la boof takes it up the ass

    by shogunshin

    laboof only got his job because of who his mommy knew, and the last transformers sucked ass cause michael bay thought it was more important to show laboof instead of optimus prime. i doubt very much they could improve things here

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:19 p.m. CST

    jerseycajun

    by BERSERKR

    You say we who like Transformers dont give reasons why? thats because noone seems to be reading my DERN posts!:P i hwill say again, i am almost 30, i grew up on 80's cartoons and loved Transformers, and the movie was pretty good, it made me laugh, the action was great and i had NO trouble following it like so many others(maybe you guys need glasses) and it was AWESOME to hear the old voice for Optimus Prime back in action, Hugo weaving was great as Megatron and i hope you comes back as the voice! i like hearing him Bicker with Star Scream, i loved when Optimus said One Shall Stand And one Shall fall(brought a tear to my eye) all in all i think it was a very good first attempt, it could have been better yes but it was not bad at all.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:20 p.m. CST

    blurry action sucks as much as laboof

    by shogunshin

    why the hell did bay shoot the film with 'blurry action?' its a fuckin MOVIE, we are SUPPOSED to see the action. this movie will suck, and i will thankfully be avoiding it.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:21 p.m. CST

    I've lived in the UK for 4 1/2 years...

    by Droid

    and I've never fucked a british chick. It's all yanks, aussies and eurotrash. That being said, yanks are terrible fucking lays. To quote Mamet...<p>"That lay there on the screen like my ex-wife."

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:21 p.m. CST

    Absolutely it is the money...

    by Darth Macchio

    A million years ago action movies were almost always rated R and even then we barely got a boob shot (think the momentary and obligatory boob shot in the first Die-Hard). And movies like Bay's Transformers obviously weren't exactly the same type of action films back then (based on pre-existing commercial products wasn't as common) but typically, horror and hard action were always rated R.<p>But with the advent of the nineties and the new God (Profit, all hail, Profit, all hail, Profit, all hail, Profit...) major studio movies exist only because some suit thinks they will make money. Even the worst shit from any major; someone thought there'd be a profit (obviously). All things stem from profit in Hollywood today.<p>Movies as an art form still exist but it's the rare gems. Hollywood, in general, is in the BUSINESS of making movies; nothing more and nothing less. The "art" doesn't have shit to do with them anymore (same for the RIAA, all about commercial appeal and nothing else, period).<p>Big surprise right? What did we expect? I've read that certain breed of dog will eat any food you put in front of them and if you give them a 55gal drum of dog food they will literally eat themselves to death. Seems familiar? Indeed (altho manic obsession with profit doesn't kill you, just turns you into an asswipe douchebag-rex). How about some fucking restraint? Or is that outdated too? A "trite" concept as obsolete as silverware for the Olsen twins? I'm sure.<p>Of course we, the typical movie consumer, do not help when we pay to see dogshit like "Epic Movie" or mindless but still fun action flicks like Bay's Transformers.<p>I like the schlock and I like the art but I often wonder at the overlooked and the undisclosed. Those rare creative works that evoke more than the words "that's fucking awesome dude!" and actually leave a mark on the viewer. Those are why we really love movies...at least in my case anyway...and I just can't imagine that quite a few have been lost to the manic obsession with profit.<p>Not that there's anything wrong with that...mind you.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:22 p.m. CST

    Bay needs to put grease sweat on the robots!!

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Thats the only way this film will work.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:22 p.m. CST

    Or to misquote Mamet.

    by Droid

    Take your pick.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:25 p.m. CST

    DICKBLOOD

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Are you going to try and tell me that it's 10 gallons of semen or some other "grease"? Or are YOU just being a smartass?<P>And yes, I know you're not M-O-M. I just couldn't pass on that particular detail.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:26 p.m. CST

    shogunshin!!!

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Donde esta zfisk?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:28 p.m. CST

    oh and scotsman

    by El Borak

    is either a noob bitch or someone took over his computer.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:28 p.m. CST

    what is this talkback about again

    by dioxholster

    nothing here makes sense.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:32 p.m. CST

    if they're going with Egyptian shit....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    ....they need to tie it in with Avatar somehow, because that things already got dibs on ripping off Stargate. So these two shitstorms should join forces and become MegaShit. <p> I've said it before....<p> JAMES CAMERON = MICHAEL BAY (no difference)

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Not grease. Not semen.

    by Darth Macchio

    Transformers use lubricant. Don't you remeber? When that fucking robot lubricated The Jesus? "Stop lubricating the man!" Ok ok...fun action movie fine. But god damn it's sad that The Jesus did it...what were you thinking The Jesus? what were you thinking?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:35 p.m. CST

    megatron didn't turn into a gun darth

    by kenjinattix

    He just pulled a gun out while still staying in robot form...And Optimus didn't kill blackout (THE helicopter robot as you called him) he killed the mine finder truck Decipticon called bonecrusher. Know what you're talking about before you criticize.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:37 p.m. CST

    first official image of Transformers 2!!

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    http://tinyurl.com/9bgsnp

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:38 p.m. CST

    Danny, there is a difference between them...

    by Darth Macchio

    Cameron thinks he's an undersea biologist/scientist and Bay thinks he's a 23 year old rockstar.<p>Both of them are jackasses but only one of them has actually done great work in film.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:38 p.m. CST

    It's funny how worked up people get over Transformers

    by MattmanReturns

    Jesus what were you expecting from a movie based on a cheesy (GASP!!) 80s cartoon? Considering the source, it wasn't nearly as retarded as it could have been.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:40 p.m. CST

    Darth Macchio

    by BERSERKR

    I also love movies as you say the "overlooked and the undisclosed. Those rare creative works that evoke more than the words "that's fucking awesome dude!" and actually leave a mark on the viewer." but i also enjoy movies like Transformers, it was very nostalgic for me, i am definitely not your typical movie goer.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:40 p.m. CST

    DICKBLOOD- even Crystall Skull ripped off stargate

    by dioxholster

    but please dont say Egyptian shit, some might get offended.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:40 p.m. CST

    it is funny....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    ...I can give a shit if this movie bombs or make bazillions and wins the Oscar for Best Picture. Either way...I really don't care. <p> I don't get worked up over Bay. He's harmless, and he still wears a denim jacket....so.........

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Egyptians are awesome.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Jimmy Carter still got those bitches in check.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:44 p.m. CST

    WHEELGINA!

    by halsolo

    Seriously - that Evil Transformer has a WHEELGINA on its face. I hope it does a sweet headstand/wheelie whilst shooting lasers from its arms/legs. Michael Bay's contribution to society - the Wheelgina.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:45 p.m. CST

    kenjinattix....heheh...orly?

    by Darth Macchio

    Um, he did turn into a big gun. Twice. Watch it again. This time use pause and slow it down like I did. He turns into, basically, a giant artilary canon and his entire frame is used in the transformation. He is not remotely "holding" a gun in that sequence.<p>You got me on the one decepticon's name tho. I couldn't remember if it was the big truck, tank, or the helicopter but I remember that one guy sliding through the tank's legs so I just 'process of eliminated' it and was wrong. My bad and sorry!<p>But, more to the point, I actually wasn't overtly criticizing the film. I think it's good mindless fun (as I said, more than once) but people saying he needs to turn into a big gun missed it when he did. Bay's use of quick cuts makes it hard to follow but I was actually defending the film when I was implying that people rewatch it or you might miss some very kewl action sequences.<p>Perhaps you need actually re-watch the scene in question, lighten up a bit, and then know what you are talking about before you get on my shit.<p>M'kay?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:45 p.m. CST

    kenjinattix....heheh...orly?

    by Darth Macchio

    Um, he did turn into a big gun. Twice. Watch it again. This time use pause and slow it down like I did. He turns into, basically, a giant artilary canon and his entire frame is used in the transformation. He is not remotely "holding" a gun in that sequence.<p>You got me on the one decepticon's name tho. I couldn't remember if it was the big truck, tank, or the helicopter but I remember that one guy sliding through the tank's legs so I just 'process of eliminated' it and was wrong. My bad and sorry!<p>But, more to the point, I actually wasn't overtly criticizing the film. I think it's good mindless fun (as I said, more than once) but people saying he needs to turn into a big gun missed it when he did. Bay's use of quick cuts makes it hard to follow but I was actually defending the film when I was implying that people rewatch it or you might miss some very kewl action sequences.<p>Perhaps you need actually re-watch the scene in question, lighten up a bit, and then know what you are talking about before you get on my shit.<p>M'kay?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Bay tried to make a good film, no one saw it

    by MattmanReturns

    It was called The Island, and everyone avoided it like the plague. So naturally he's going back to mindless explosions, cuz that's what makes him the $$.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:46 p.m. CST

    sorry for dbl post

    by Darth Macchio

    ugh..wtf? that's no moon! it's a space station!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Egyptians are harmless

    by dioxholster

    same as jimmy

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:49 p.m. CST

    The Island was LAME

    by dioxholster

    not original at all and too predictable. the whole existential thing has been done to death it aint fun anymore

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:49 p.m. CST

    Evil Robot Giving Birth... OUT OF ITS FACE!

    by halsolo

    God... now that I realize I'm seeing the crown of some baby unicycle robot from Evil Robot's goddamn face-vagina, this has leapt straight to the top of the "horrific images burned into my retinas" category. I just hope Evil Robots don't have litters - otherwise I may throw up during this movie.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:49 p.m. CST

    dioxholster... alien shit

    by MattmanReturns

    The idea of civilization being alien in origin is an old one that was around long before Stargate... especially the link between crystal skulls and aliens.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 1:58 p.m. CST

    MattmanReturns

    by dioxholster

    not really, it wasnt mainstream until stargate and it was only in books, not even stories just speculative.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 2:03 p.m. CST

    Why bother:P

    by BERSERKR

    Why do i even post here if noone responds to what i say, and least on facebook people listen:P

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 2:08 p.m. CST

    fuck facebook

    by dioxholster

    fuck u facebook shithole lover, lets see if that facebook of yours serves u well when u die.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 2:10 p.m. CST

    I want me a COSM tonight

    by Abominable Snowcone

    A coked-out soccer mom

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 2:10 p.m. CST

    Diox

    by MattmanReturns

    Oh yeah I forgot, no one reads books so it didn't exist before Stargate. Forgive my error.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Agreed, Berserkr

    by Darth Macchio

    At first viewing it was just too erratic and my mind revolted a bit and thus my initial take was: it SUCKED. But after watching it a few times and actually paying much closer attention to the action sequences, I find the quality of them to actually be *hindered* by Bay's quick cuts.<p>I think the Berg said it best when he said a fast story doesn't need fast cuts as the plot moves you along. Transformers had a very quick plot moving you right along so I think the manic cuts harmed the picture (think like the second Bourne flick where what looked to be some sweet fight choreography was ruined by Greengrass's idiot shaky cam obsession).<p>I'd actually defend a movie like Transformers now but I think Bay and team went a little too overboard on the cuts as the action as written, was quite enough to forgo camera tricks to heighten the action. But that's just my take of course.<p>That said, I still wish Turturro wasn't in it...I just cannot relate to the sector 7 cartoon like character they gave him and The Jesus. Basically, if they just cut all the bullshit comedy out, it would have been a purely kick ass action movie. Still basically mindless...but kickass and without hamfisted dumbass comedy (most of it...a couple scenes worked, police stations, Mojo's "bling" etc)

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 2:12 p.m. CST

    DICKS HOLSTER

    by halsolo

    Why have the OX in there? That's a badass name you pussed out on.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 2:16 p.m. CST

    I agree Darth Macchio

    by Bishop6

    Some directors just dont know when to quit with the 'humour' and fuckin ruin the film, Bay is one, Lucas obviously is another, the boys who made ID4 complete douche's also

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 2:18 p.m. CST

    MattmanReturns

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    The Alien/Egyptian/Aztec thing is old news. But the story of Avatar follows the exacty arc as Stargate. Cameron should have written something originally instead of focusing all his energy on smearing sour cream on Meryl Streep's tits.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 2:20 p.m. CST

    so they're making Revenge of the Sith 2?

    by turketron

    OH MY!!!!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 2:21 p.m. CST

    exclusive new photo of starscream here

    by Abominable Snowcone

    http://tinyurl.com/88r3q8

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 2:23 p.m. CST

    they don't even LOOK like transformers

    by whothefuckcares

    I can't believe there are dickehads out there that defend this.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 2:28 p.m. CST

    OMG test footage of effects from TINO2 here

    by Abominable Snowcone

    http://tinyurl.com/7kct84

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 2:31 p.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVER

    by mode_7

    I think Cameron may have written that Avatar treatment like 20 years ago, long before Stargate came out. I've no idea where I'm getting that from though so don't quote me on it, cos I might well be talking shit.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 2:32 p.m. CST

    I don't care what anyone says...

    by fassbinder79

    For all Transformers flaws...that movie and Bad Boys 2 are some of the sweetest action spectacles I've ever seen. Keep up the good work, Bay. I hope they give you as much money as possible and free reign. FUCK THE HATERS! You and Christopher Nolan are the only two people in Hollywood right now getting the money on screen. Can't wait to see this one!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 2:33 p.m. CST

    mode_7

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    There is no before Stargate. That is when time begins.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Soundwave don't shiv

    by a rolling stone

    That's all I know. "Lay-Sir-Beek, fuck-shit-up."

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Ok everyone, alltogether.....

    by Stalkeye

    DAMN YOU MICHEAL BAY!!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 2:42 p.m. CST

    fassbinder....Did you just put Bay and Nolan in the same sentenc

    by kenjinattix

    thats like saying Vin Diesel and Phillip Seymore Hoffman

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 2:51 p.m. CST

    Megan Fox has clubbed thumbs

    by kenjinattix

    Look it up...her thumbs are like toes....Though I'd still bang her in a confession booth in the Vatican with the pope my mother and Gandhi wathcing

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 2:52 p.m. CST

    kenjinattix

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Vin and Phillip = Bay and Nolan.....so uhhhhh, which is which in your opinion? I don't get it.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 2:53 p.m. CST

    DICKBLOOD

    by DocPazuzu

    Weren't you going to kill yourself or something during Christmas? I thought that's what all that weepy "If I don't see you guys any more after the holidays, then thanks for these past few months" shit was all about. <p> Oh, well...

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Don't believe me?

    by kenjinattix

    http://tinyurl.com/97vm74

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 2:58 p.m. CST

    DocPazuzu

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Glad to see you still read every single one of my posts. Fucking loser.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 2:59 p.m. CST

    Dick....Blood

    by kenjinattix

    To even utter Bay's name when talking about film directing and use Nolan's name as a comparison to strengthen your example is the EQUIVALENT of talking about the acting of Vin Diesel and using OSCAR WINNER Phillip Seymore Hoffman as a comparison to strengthen your example. That clear enough for you Dickblood...?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3 p.m. CST

    Unfortunately, DICKBLOOD...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...there's no "cockface alert" function on my computer so I can't avoid your posts while reading the talkbacks you've infected.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3 p.m. CST

    kenjinattix

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    See thats what I don't get about the love for her. Look at her in that pic. She looks like a fucking dude in drag.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3 p.m. CST

    dioxholster and Darth Macchio

    by BERSERKR

    First off to dioxholster, i am a peaceful man by nature but i would ask you to please come to vancouver, BC, canada and tell me FU to my face, oh and by the way i am 29, 5'10 260lbs(not all muscle but not all fat either:P) and quite strong i am not bragging but i can pretty much guarantee i could rip your face off, my friends and enemies alike don't call me Berserkr for nothing, and Darth Macchio thank you for your comments, its nice that someone actually listens on hear and actually has something intelligent to say.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:02 p.m. CST

    IF NOT HERE IS A CHART DICKBLOOD

    by kenjinattix

    IF BAY = SHIT And NOLAN = GREAT And SHIT DOES NOT = GREAT Then Bay DOESN'T EQUAL Nolan. Thus BAY DOESN'T Great

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:03 p.m. CST

    DocPazuzu

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Oh grow the fuck up. You know damn fucking well that post you're talking about was in one of the Twitch TBs. So you sit there all day reading our discussions, terrified of joining in-- knowing I'll just tell you to fuck off or what? I say kind words to the regulars I talk to and you use it as a slam against me. Yeah I was gonna kill myself. Fuck off you dumb shit. You act like I'm all over the place trying to find a friend. If there is anyone that just wanders around looking for AICN pals its you. The only person still saying positive things about your ignorant ass is your fuck-buddy Gaius.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:06 p.m. CST

    DocP

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    You're a joke dude. But once again, thanks for the fucking laugh. Glad to see you hunt me down just to comment on something I posted weeks ago. <p> Pathetic.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:07 p.m. CST

    funniest line of the day.....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    "....and quite strong i am not bragging but i can pretty much guarantee i could rip your face off."

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:08 p.m. CST

    Dickblood

    by DocPazuzu

    I don't read Twitch for your sake, sorry. I enjoy the discussions by the other people there. I don't join in any more because it would mean having to either be civil towards you, ignoring you or beating on you. The only reason I abstain from the latter is my respect for most of the other posters there. Out here, though, it's open season -- especially after you call me out.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:09 p.m. CST

    "hunt me down"

    by DocPazuzu

    That's hilarious. You post in virtually every talkback I read. Also, you called me out here, asshole.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:10 p.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    by BERSERKR

    Weather it was meant as a digg or not, SWEET!, i said the funniest thing of the day awesome!:P

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Berserkr -- no dig.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Genuinely funny to be polite and proceed to tell someone you can rip their face off.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:13 p.m. CST

    People People...Calm Down

    by kenjinattix

    Every discussion on this site turns into some fuck you internet shoving match....enough of the faces getting ripped off and hunting down...feel like I'm on Maury

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:16 p.m. CST

    Stargate's story arc is different

    by dioxholster

    if i remember correctly AVATAR sounds more like The Last Samura, i could be wrong but in Avatar the hero turns against Earth and fights to free these natives from our evil grasp.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:18 p.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    by BERSERKR

    Well thanks, i am Canadian after all, we are a polite society as a whole, although not always:P and when someone gets me angry well, you know how that line ends:P "HULK SMASH!!!" :P and kenjinattix i am perfectly calm:D

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:21 p.m. CST

    DANNY DICKBLOOD

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    What's that? Now I'm some sort of ignorant "fuck-buddy"?<P>Oh, boo-hoo.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Danny... Avatar/Stargate

    by MattmanReturns

    Oh yeah I agree Avatar is a Stargate rip (I read the treatment/synopsis thingy). I was just letting Diox know that Crystal Skull didn't rip off Stargate since the whole crystal skull/alien connection has been around for the better part of a century. But Avatar almost follows Stargate beat-for-beat. Although it will have Michelle Rodriguez in it...

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:22 p.m. CST

    dioxholster -- awwwwww that is true.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Either way, the special effects are gonna be revolutionary. And 3D?!! Damn that's all you had to say. I'll open my mouth and kindly let Jimmy dunks his balls in coffee and rest them on my tongue.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:23 p.m. CST

    Oh Stargate and Avatar are different??

    by MattmanReturns

    But Crystal Skull and Stargate are the same? Alright Diox, you make no sense.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:23 p.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVER

    by mode_7

    Were you really gonna kill yourself, or is that a joke I don't get? If you were I'm glad you didn't, I disagree with almost everything you say with regards to movies, but you're a funny fucker and the place wouldn't be the same without you.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:24 p.m. CST

    AVATAR!!!

    by BERSERKR

    I would rather James be doing the Battle Angel movie first i have been looking forward to that for YEARS!!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:26 p.m. CST

    MattmanReturns

    by dioxholster

    so whos the enemy in AVATAR...Ra, the Sun God?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:26 p.m. CST

    mode_7

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Thank you for the support. <p> And no...I wasn't. But if I were, DocP. would be the person to rub it in. Fucking prick. <p> This actually comes from a post I put up to my regulars on here right before Christmas saying something like "Last few months has been fun guys....thanks for all the good times. Have a good holiday." Thats it. Shows you what kinda guy DocP is to hunt me down and spew his bullshit.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:27 p.m. CST

    The AVATAR villain is Forrest Whitaker.....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    ...the rest of The Crying Game cast were unavailable.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:28 p.m. CST

    Diox

    by MattmanReturns

    Yeah. He's also the villain in Crystal Skull.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:30 p.m. CST

    DocP

    by MattmanReturns

    I hope you never had any friends that mentioned suicide. I can see you asking them the next day "Hey aren't you supposed to be dead?"

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:30 p.m. CST

    MattmanReturns, i was refering to SG-1

    by dioxholster

    SG-1 did the crystal thing and SG-1 was always about archeological finds. Alien Tech + archeology = fuse them together and u get stargate. indy was never about sci fi it was more into paranormal stuff until now.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:33 p.m. CST

    WTF is SG-1?

    by MattmanReturns

    Oh you mean that stupid Stargate TV show? I don't think Lucas watches it.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:34 p.m. CST

    The Indy books were about Crystal Skulls

    by MattmanReturns

    I know "reading" doesn't count, but those books came out long before... wtf did you call it? SG-1?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:34 p.m. CST

    MattmanReturns

    by DocPazuzu

    Dickblood is no friend of mine. This is the guy who has wished me dead in traffic (among other things) numerous times in talkback, so I'm not going to feel bad for jibing him for his online attention whoring innuendos -- especially when he gets sanctimonious and hypocritical about it.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:34 p.m. CST

    in SG-1 was it the actual Crystal Skulls....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    ...in South America they were looking for or just something like it? How was that episode? I've never seen the show, but I always hear about the storylines and they sound cool. How is that Atlantis one?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:36 p.m. CST

    attention whoring innuendos

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    I'm an attention whore when I tell people I regularly talk to, to have a nice holiday? If you wanna be an asshole thats fine. I do it to, and I have a damn fun time. But you are just fucking bizarre and grouchy. Why do you come here?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:37 p.m. CST

    LAZERBEAK EJECT,

    by Its a LION

    OPERATION SURVEILLANCE.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:38 p.m. CST

    They were gonna make a movie for SG-1

    by dioxholster

    but MGM is still not convinced so they are just doing straight to DVD. but someday they will and u will catch it in cinema

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:41 p.m. CST

    I didn't mind the alien shit in Indy 4

    by mode_7

    Indy was always about myths and legends and shit like that and Roswell at this point is pretty much a modern day equivalent. It was more the shitty quality of the rest of the movie that bothered me. I saw the SG1 episode with the skulls, didn't some guy end up in a parallel universe or something? It was pretty good, better than Indy 4 anyway...

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:41 p.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    by DocPazuzu

    You are the very definition of an attention whore.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:43 p.m. CST

    Stargate

    by BERSERKR

    I have only watched a few eps here and there, that show is just plain bad:P definitely better sci fi stuff out there.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:44 p.m. CST

    DocP

    by MattmanReturns

    So why do you keep giving him attention?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:44 p.m. CST

    DocP

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Okay. Have a lovely weekend.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:45 p.m. CST

    The Stargate show sucks

    by MattmanReturns

    Bad acting, stupid looking sets. It's still around because it costs like ten bucks and episode, but it's no Battlestar Galactica. I can't believe it has even been brought up in this talkback as a source of influence for filmmakers. Please.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:46 p.m. CST

    Berserkr

    by dioxholster

    name one i dare you name one!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:46 p.m. CST

    MattmanReturns

    by DocPazuzu

    Because it amuses me.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:47 p.m. CST

    Robert Carlyle is a fan

    by dioxholster

    why else would he chose it over doctor who?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:48 p.m. CST

    best action scenes of the last 5 years

    by lex romero

    Were in kung fu panda ffs. Seriously - massive, well directed, inventive action scenes coming from a cartoon about a talking panda. <br><br> There are just very few directors in hollywood at the moment that know how to direct action. The popularity of "shakey cam" and "mtv editing" to hide a shoddy action scene and give a false sense of excitment is ruining action cinema. TDK was great but even that had crappy action scenes. Even Spielberg lost it in KoCS, he's normally great for well put together set pieces.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:49 p.m. CST

    Unsolveable equation

    by xile1c

    (Michael Bay x Shia LaBoeuf) + Transformers sequel = ginormous stinking dog turd.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:49 p.m. CST

    Unsolveable equation

    by xile1c

    (Michael Bay x Shia LaBoeuf) + Transformers sequel = ginormous stinking dog turd.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:49 p.m. CST

    MGM said

    by dioxholster

    they said that the stargate franchise the the second most important to them after james bond. how many times does a studio say that about one of their shows

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Best Sci-Fi show ever made...

    by mode_7

    ...is Star-Trek DS9, that shit is epic, underrated and nothing like any other trek show.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:52 p.m. CST

    MattmanReturns&dioxholster

    by BERSERKR

    MattmanReturns Thats exactly why Stargate is no good, i agree with you whole hardily and yes Battle Star is a way better show than Stargate.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:53 p.m. CST

    mode_7

    by BERSERKR

    DAMN RIGHTS! i loved DS9 good acting, great characters, good stories, definitely one of my favorite Treks.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:55 p.m. CST

    Battlestar sucks...

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    I can't fucking believe they replaced a Greek with a Mexican!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:57 p.m. CST

    So, is DANNY going to complain to the CoC...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    ...about how us gangsters have been giving him a hard time?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:57 p.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    by BERSERKR

    And do you like SG? and if so why with such horrible acting and production values?:P

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Stargate is the only sci fi space show

    by dioxholster

    that is contemporary. thats what gives it its edge. it darn feels good watching the US air force blast away enemy ships with plasma beam from their inter-galactic battlecruiser.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 3:59 p.m. CST

    How old is everyone on here?

    by BERSERKR

    Just curious:P

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4 p.m. CST

    Berserkr

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    No I haven't seen either actually. But I sometimes wonder why Battlestar is even called that. Does it have anything to do with the original other than character names? Where the fuck are the furry Ewok rip-offs? No alien life forms on that show?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:03 p.m. CST

    Aliens in Indy IV should have stopped after Area 51

    by finky089

    The rest of the film should have been compeltely different. Not that that is a revolutionary thought about Indy IV. <p> Is it wrong that I am still "boycotting" and refuse to actually watch Bay's first Transformers movie?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:04 p.m. CST

    I'm 13...and posting from Buraidah, Saudi Arabia!!

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:05 p.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    by BERSERKR

    True it doesn't seem to have much in common other than the names:P

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:06 p.m. CST

    Beserkr

    by finky089

    all older than we act. But then, that's why we're on the internet, no?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:06 p.m. CST

    I've just turned 28...

    by mode_7

    ...and I'm fucking terrified of turning 30. I really am.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:07 p.m. CST

    Battlestar is an attention-seeking whore

    by dioxholster

    everyone here knows it. subtlety is a value people, plus it makes the show more effective in presenting its story and characters. Atlantis got the best subtle humor i ever seen in order for one to get it he would have to know the characters very well.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:08 p.m. CST

    DGDB

    by finky089

    is Hawaiian Organ Donor still around. I've been absent for a while.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:11 p.m. CST

    finky089

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    Check the latest Twitch thread, a bunch of us claimed that place.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:11 p.m. CST

    if anyone is curious....

    by dioxholster

    check the trailer for the last stargate atlantis episode which airs tonight. its the last one: http://tinyurl.com/7a6nek

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:12 p.m. CST

    I enjoyed SG1...

    by mode_7

    ...but Atlantis just seems like a cheap spinoff so I never really gave it a chance. Is it self contained episodes or have they gone for these long drawn out season long story arcs? That's the problem with recent TV shows, the episodes ain't self-contained so they have no re-watch value. I can't imagine who the fuck buys these Lost box sets and just watches a random episode. What's the fucking point?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:15 p.m. CST

    Danny, I think you would like Battlestar

    by MattmanReturns

    Other than the fact that you and Battlestar are apparently both attention seeking whores, I have a feeling based on what you do and don't like that Battlestar would be up your alley.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:17 p.m. CST

    mode_7

    by dioxholster

    well stargate is weird in that its a blend in a way. the story-arcs dont follow each other in order it sort of continues with one story later on in the season or next season. but i would say compared to most shows it is self-contained or has independent episodes that are still relevant though to wither character development or expanding the story.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:20 p.m. CST

    what i said made no sense

    by dioxholster

    basically there is only some instances of "To Be Continued" and they refer alot to the past. and Atlantis sort of copied SG-1's story arc.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:20 p.m. CST

    Aye

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    I have Heroes S2 on DVD and (go ahead and laugh) have to watch them in order, or not at all. I tried watching 209 on its own, and got confused as to why the fuck people were where they were.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:20 p.m. CST

    I am 29 turning 30 3 months! but not afraid:P

    by BERSERKR

    But i am horribly afraid of death:P

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Age: 29

    by MattmanReturns

    30 in Feb.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:25 p.m. CST

    23., 24 on the 21st Jan

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:26 p.m. CST

    maybe this can shed some light

    by dioxholster

    Atlantis=== http://tinyurl.com/9eo4gd

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:27 p.m. CST

    will do, Mr. Zeddemore

    by finky089

    31

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Battlestar...

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    The TV spots are brilliant. I know that much. I saw a bit of the episode with the blonde chick rolling around and orgasming in red paint.....I thought I had accidentally put on one of my old VHS tapes with Red Shoe Diary episodes, but not-- it was Battlestar. <p> I do mean to check it out eventually when its all over. I cant stay consistent with watching a tv show. I always forget its on.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:28 p.m. CST

    and this is a video i made about Atlantis...

    by dioxholster

    http://tinyurl.com/88yp8u ---feel free to criticize or make fun of

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:29 p.m. CST

    finky089

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Yeah HOD is around. He is just busy this week I believe. He's dropped into Twitch a few times today.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:30 p.m. CST

    shed some light 2

    by dioxholster

    actually this is a better one--- http://tinyurl.com/966cmp

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:33 p.m. CST

    dioxholster

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    How did you record it with such nice quality? DVR? And then convert to what?

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:34 p.m. CST

    spasticus

    by BadMrWonka

    I've never read a Batman comic in my life, and I didn't watch the cartoon Transformers as a kid, so I have no special care about source material. and honestly, your point about TRansformers and Batman being different, and therefore having different expectations is a little bit meaningless. I did NOT expect a great movie from Bay in Transformers, like I did (and got) from Nolan with Dark Knight, and that is what I have said like 20 TIMES. I just expected it to be COMPETENT and at least not offensive to the brain. I thought Spielberg producing might somehow calm Bay's ADHD down and we might get a semi-coherent film. it was never going to be great, but at least passable? maybe?<p>look, if you like the movie, fine. I don't care. but even though people whine when you say it, and don't want to admit it, there ARE some quantifiable measurements for the quality of films. there are REASONS that you can LIST OUT why The Godfather is great. there are REASONS you can LIST OUT, why a movie like, (just picking at random here) The Happening is not a good film. by any reasonable measure, TRansformers was a mess of a film. zero character development, subplots that went nowhere, shameless and laughable product placement, convoluted and senseless plot devices, one dimensional secondary characters, schizophrenic pacing through the entire 2nd and 3rd acts, the list goes ON AND ON. so if you like the film, fine, like it. but you can't claim it's a good film because you like it. you just enjoyed a bad film. top defending it and do what the rest of te kids, er...people on here that liked Transformers have done: admit it was a stupid film but you had fun and liked it. great! have at it! but some of us have higher expectations, even from Michael Bay. and that's saying a lot...<p>as for the stereotypes, man, you missed the point on those entirely. the fact that the PC police have black characters in non-traditional occupations for black characters, or the women have some random knowledge or ability (that functions as a deus ex machina at JUST the right time, of course, another example of LAZY direction and writing) does not mean they are not stereotypes. all black people yell, that's a stereotype. all black people treat their mom/grandma like a verbal pinata, that's a stereotype. all women have to be over-the-top attractive and wear skimpy clothing, or they're not worthy to be in a movie, that's a stereotype. <p>Bay DEVALUES women and minorities. my god man, it doesn't matter what JOB he gives them. you have to look at these things a little deeper, kid.<p>and for the record, I didn't pay to see Transformers 1 (I saw it at the official Paramount lot screening in LA, I even wrote a review of it for AICN if you'd like to check) and you really shouldn't stay up in your racecar bed worrying that I'll pay to see the next one. I grew out of my "brain-shut-off" switch a ling while ago.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:34 p.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVER

    by mode_7

    Just download the shit you want to watch, I can't remember the last time I watched a TV show as it aired. I recommend tvtorrents.com for all your viewing needs.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:37 p.m. CST

    And start from the beginning

    by MattmanReturns

    Battlestar is by no means episodic. It's one big story.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:41 p.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS

    by dioxholster

    DVR? i wish. had to get the Xvid version from internet and do some uncompression and some color correction. it took time. but i recommend downloading the HD version, i just didnt know at the time how to extract video from a matroska .mkv file.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:45 p.m. CST

    there was a professional music video

    by dioxholster

    some music artist thought to make a music video about atlantis---http://tinyurl.com/7b9vsq

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:48 p.m. CST

    BadMrWonka

    by mode_7

    I've had this argument so many times with friends and loved ones it's fucking untrue. I think the people that like Transformers do so just for the pure spectacle, it might as well be an FX reel or something. I enjoyed independence Day for the same reason. I personally can't enjoy Bay's movies though because I just can't stand all the quick cuts and shit like that. It's like getting kicked in the fucking face.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:50 p.m. CST

    for all you thinking I'm on the bandwagon

    by BadMrWonka

    for hating Transformers...my original review for aintitcool last year...<p>Hey guys, BadMrWonka here. got to see an early showing of Transformers here in LA tonight, and I thought I'd weigh in. hopefully you can use it. I am going to reference a lot of things from the movie, but I'll try to be vague so as to not spoil too much...<p> First off, since this is such a divisive movie, I should let you know briefly where I stood before seeing the movie. Although I'm the prime age range, I never really got into Transformers as a kid. I saw the cartoons, and I remember having a couple toys, but it sort of passed on by without leaving too much of a lasting impression. So I hold no glorious standards for the source material. If that differs from your take on it, hopefully you'll take that into account when reading my review. On the other hand, I really don't care for Michael Bay that much. I don't hate his films, I just don't like them very much. I don't like the fact that I can see little cliched moments that are virtually identical in every one of his movies, I don't like that he seems like a dick in real life, I don't like his little beard. But I also don't expect his movies to be anything other than what they are. I just hope they're not quite as bad as the one before. I don't think Micheal Bay has ever ruined a movie...he simply chooses projects, or develops them, or has them developed for him, that are innately unsalvageable as "real" films. (Tell me how Bad Boys, as a concept, could have been an Oscar contender...) Well, maybe Pearl Harbor could have been good... <p> So anyway, on with the show. I got no intro whatsoever for the film, no one said a word. Which isn't surprising since it's obviously finished by now. The first action sequence is amazing, the sound is incredible. After a few cliched characters giving a few cliched lines in the midst of cliched moments, it begins in earnest, and knocks the wind out of you. Then we get onto Shia's story, and it's actually good! The jokes are funny, the car buying sequence is hilarious...everything is actually WORKING! There's a Judd Apatow reference?!?! Are you kidding me? Transformers? good? Even VERY good? <p> Then it all kind of goes to shit. The inevitable diarrhea you were expecting from eating a Michael Bay-rrito starts to rumble in your stomach. The glimpse of a well-made movie that could have been, falls by the wayside as we get into the "plot" of the film. The traditional Bay stereotypes are all there, saying all the same crapola you've heard them say a million times. There's the hot girl with obscene amounts of knowledge on a specific topic, and yes it comes in handy. There's the black stereotype, yelling at the top of his lungs, because that's what black stereotypes do. There's the military guy who just wants to see his wife and kid. There's BadMrWonka burying the hopes he had in the first 20 minutes. <p> As the movie plods along, it can't seem to decide whether to take itself seriously or not. There are a host of in-jokes, from references to the old series, to actual references to other Michael Bay movies. I am NOT joking. It's truly cringe-worthy. But the worst part is how awkward the explication is. When Megatron gives the all important "this is what the hell's going on" speech, it's the same as the audience got in the opening intro before the title. So we're sitting there going, "yeah, we got it, are you going to DO something?" And then they fart around in Shia's yard for 20 minutes. A house being accidentally destroyed was funny in Harry and the Hendersons. Here, it goes on WAY too long. <p> The rest of the movie is a huge fight scene, wrapped around a couple twists in the plot that are so silly, I half expected a new character to be named "Deus ex machina" (perhaps in the sequel?). There are HUGE gaping plot holes, and things that make no sense plot-wise. And here's a tip, if you have robots that can't really emote in their faces, and you want to have a touching moment, and Michael Bay is directing, and Steve Jablonsky is doing the music? Just go ahead and shoot yourself. Cause it ain't happening. <p> It seems, when the Transformers are first arriving to earth, that they simply choose the first car/truck they see, and change into that. and when Bumblebee is made fun of by Shia's girl for being a junky old car, he transforms into a snazzy new version. so it seems they can change into anything at will. so then why does it matter if, say, your legs get cut off? make new ones! why not be a different car, if someone is chasing you and knows what you look like? <p> The worst part is they do what I REALLY hate about this big movies, they SHOVE them full of smaller characters, introduce them, give them a little personality trait and a little thing to do, and then we NEVER get any resolution to their story. Only Shia and his chick and one other character get ANY kind of resolution. <p> So, what you really want to know: <p> The fights: they are pretty cool, but there is SO much going on, and SO quick a pace, and the camera is SO shaky and in need of Ritalin, it's hard to make out what is happening a lot of the time. And then, after 10 minutes of flying pixels and explosions, and one-liners, there will be a long, EXTREMELY slow shot with a Transformer doing some maneuvre over a pedestrian as the "camera" pans just right to catch it all. Isn't there anything in between the frenetic, what the fuck did I just see, type of shots, and the "ok, I get it, you spent a lot on this film's FX" shots? christ. <p> The acting: Shia, again, ESPECIALLY in the first 20 minutes, is gold with the funny lines. he's really good, honestly. I would seriously challenge anyone to say otherwise. when he has to be tough, well, he's not really tough. But neither is his character. Other than that, he just runs a lot. When he has to deliver the funny, it's not bad. Overall, I doubt any young actor could have done any better, and a lot could have done worse. He is in NO WAY the problem with this movie. <p> John Turturro seems like he's drunk. Literally, I mean that I think he may have been drunk while filming some of the scenes. But it works, and he has some funny lines and bits. It feels like one of those things where he said, "yeah I'll do it, but only if I get to be quirky". better than being a Bay cliche, I guess. Everyone else hams it up. The girls are hot, and uninteresting. Voight is wrinkly. Duhamel is not really acting, just yelling military jargon and shooting. Except for delivering the dumbest line of the movie to Shia. The entire theater actually groaned and chuckled in what was supposed to be a serious moment. Then he does the most unthinkably ridiculous and implausible (yes, even for a movie with giant fighting robots) stunt I can recall seeing in a movie in a long time. And he goes a little crazy for a second. And then he goes back to his jargon immediately. <p> The source material: it felt, to me, like they tried to make up for the fact that all the Transformers look completely different from their 80's counterparts, by making them talk and act EXACTLY like their 80's counterparts. Which, to me, seemed silly. But people I was with, who read comics and had more affinity for the original series, said the dialogue rang true. I just thought it was silly. To me, the old cartoons saying these completely unrealistic lines was fine. When you have this new, sleek, fast machine, saying things that are, at best, cheesy. It sounds ultra-cheesy. <p> is it a boy and his car? well yes and no, but if you're afraid that's all it is, don't worry. plenty of robot on robot fighting...well...blurring past the digitally created camera at super speeds, to be exact. Shia's relationship with Bumblebee is actually fairly decently done, and it didn't feel like it was too much. The house/garden scene was, though. <p> Overall, I think Spielberg directed the first 20 minutes, stuck his name on, and never looked back. I simply do not see him in this movie after the beginning. It's all Bay all day every day. And they stole a line exchange from From Dusk til Dawn. fuck that. <p> If you are predisposed to like this movie, you will find plenty to like, and a little to bemoan. If you are predisposed to hate it, you'll find plenty to hate, but I gaurantee you'll laugh a few times in the beginning and get your ass kicked by the first fight scene. And Scott Farkus is in it. <p> If you're in the middle, well, it will depend on how patient you are with Bay. Did you see Bad Boys, Armaggedon, The Rock and Pearl Harbor? Ever want to see them again, but with gigantic robots from space? Transformers is playing at your local theater. <p> BadMrWonka

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:51 p.m. CST

    this is by far the most awesome

    by dioxholster

    most awesome Atlantis video ever--- http://tinyurl.com/9pont2

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:53 p.m. CST

    on BadMrWonka's thesis...

    by dioxholster

    it was too long so i just gave it an A+

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:53 p.m. CST

    After seeing,,,

    by Droid

    Greengrass' Bourne's I find Bays editing style calming.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:53 p.m. CST

    FUCK YEAH

    by J-Dizzle

    I'm pumped for this!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:54 p.m. CST

    Thats ...

    by Droid

    Not ,,,

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 4:55 p.m. CST

    I LOVE THESE TB's!!!!! SO MUCH BILE!

    by FuckMichaelBay

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 5:04 p.m. CST

    WHGERES SCOTSMAN?!>?

    by fractaljinn

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 5:07 p.m. CST

    Scotsman's at home. Eating his mom's HAGGIS

    by finky089

    for good, I hope.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 5:11 p.m. CST

    the most awesome video

    by dioxholster

    isnt so awesome i just checked it the original was removed due to copyright infringement, bomber. now where can i find it, it was the best i tell u the best.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 5:17 p.m. CST

    I'm Scottish...

    by Dr_Zoidberg

    And that guy above who can't spell or string a proper sentence together is, well, pretty typical of us Scots. Not me though, I'm educated, I didn't leave school until I was 12 years old. I even get paid in money instead of food and shelter. For 55p (that's nearly an American Dollar) I bought a ZX Spectrum with 128K of memory, and it has been modded to go on the internet, so advanced is my country. I jest of course, but really, I spend 90% of my earnings on booze cos it's SHITE BEING SCOTTISH. Trainspotting gets some things spot on, although I haven't touched junkie shit in me life. Transformers? Thought the first one was a good fun film from a really dull script.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 5:19 p.m. CST

    Wonka...please stop writing right now!!

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    You will never EVER write a line better than this: <p> "The inevitable diarrhea you were expecting from eating a Michael Bay-rrito starts to rumble in your stomach."<p>HAHAHAHAHA

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Transformers and Bay are Supercool.

    by dioxholster

    end of discussion, because i like Bay's style its unique and u know what ur getting when u see his movies and Transformers blow my mind away. nothing to complain about.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 5:36 p.m. CST

    True story

    by dioxholster

    i was in this yacht that slammed into a cruise ship, true story happened two weeks ago. thought it would be nice to share.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 6:04 p.m. CST

    True Story

    by blindambition238

    I was driving my cruise ship down the pacific 2 weeks ago and some jackhole in a yacht crashed into me. Then before I could find my insurance card the guy sped off!

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 6:09 p.m. CST

    Here is the real reason why transformers..

    by emeraldboy

    raked in so much money. They werent going to see transformers. they are all seeing JJ abrams trailer for cloverfield. That trailer created more than transformers movie ever did. Too bad cloverfield turned out to so mediocre.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 6:13 p.m. CST

    But the Cloverfield trailer was a 'surprise' Emerald

    by blindambition238

    Most people didnt expect to see it. It's not like the Phantom Menace trailer that was announced to be attached to Freddie Prinze Jr.'s Wing Commander movie and subsequently account for like 99.9 percent of its revenue.<p> Besides this is the net age, nobody would pay to see that trailer when it would be all over youtube 2 seconds after it premiered.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 6:14 p.m. CST

    Good god 5:30 can't come soon enough

    by blindambition238

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 6:15 p.m. CST

    For me the only really weak part of transformers..

    by emeraldboy

    Was the stuff with the govtment computer people. It wasnt very interesting and they were all terrible actors.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 6:22 p.m. CST

    emeraldboy

    by dioxholster

    i forgot all those parts i thought they were just fillers.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 6:24 p.m. CST

    The weak parts of Transformers for me were

    by blindambition238

    the parts when people were talking and getting peed on

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 7:13 p.m. CST

    less silly?

    by alice 13

    vehicles that turn into giant monster robots. now with less silly. ok.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 7:14 p.m. CST

    The Fallen is Anubis!

    by cool_britannia79

    That thing is CLEARLY Anubis from Egyption mythology, look at the comparison pic: http://tinyurl.com/35n7sp

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 7:30 p.m. CST

    Did Someone actually write that Stargate Atlantis

    by Xiphos_2

    Had subtle humor? That was by far the funniest thing I've read on AICN lately. It's also by far the saddest thing I've read on AICN lately.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:26 p.m. CST

    I thought peter Cullen was great...

    by emeraldboy

    I thought that this 2nd movie would have focused on the baddie(optimus prime) from the first film and his revenge. after all he was dumped at sea. and I loved megatrons call to arms to the other good transformers to come to earth. that with humans there is more than meets the eye. If there is one failure to bay as a filmmaker. I think he is too ambitious. bay cares little about the written word. all about visuals. I didnt see Bad boys two. I thought the island looked great. but it was utterly incomprehensible. It was on tv there a few in the UK a few months ago. He needs a strong Story writer. But I have seen nearly all of his films. I know he gets alot of hate around here. he makes great looking blockbuster movies. Deep impact is still a better movie the armeggeddon, which is a film that proves that liv tyler cant act. The incredible hulk cemented that proof. Looks nice. though.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:29 p.m. CST

    I want to send my sympathies to Patrick Swayze..

    by emeraldboy

    at what must be a truly terrible time for him and his family. He has denied that he is on his deathbed. he is hospital with Pneumonia.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Berserker...

    by jerseycajun

    Glad you understood everything that was going on clearly. You can then explain to me the logical progression of events as they happened. Cause and effect, one scent to the next. Reason and reaction.<br></br><br></br>Prime's line about standing and falling, would have had real impact on me had what preceded it felt like it wasn't random events but where events were triggered by characters actions and their actions were driven by their character. Again, I'd have to feel connected with the characters in some way. I don't go into a movie like this expecting to be challenged intellectually, but I do expect a film like this to connect with my heart, to make me care. Hearing Optimus spout a few lines of nostalgic dialog only inspires nostalgia (and I suspect this is what caused you to shed a tear), but it's only used for nostalgia, not in support of his character as portrayed by the rest of the film. They're thrown around cheaply, and forced. There is no sense that what we hear them say outside of those nostalgia quotes comes from anything but stock action dialog - stuff we probably thought was cool when we were six years old.

  • than the first.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 11:28 p.m. CST

    would make the sequel better than the first

    by F-18

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 1:24 a.m. CST

    Here's a funny free story for all of my fellow talkbackers...

    by Kirbymanly

    http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4782209/1/

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 3:15 a.m. CST

    RUMBLE, FRENZY, RAVAGE, RATBAT EJECT

    by Its a LION

    OPERATION: INTERFERENCE

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 6:37 a.m. CST

    sign me up

    by JoeSixPack

    Don't care. I will watch this movie even if the plot involves a refrigerator and a nuclear detonation.

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 7:19 a.m. CST

    kung pow 2: rise of the squirrilchucks!

    by ironic_name

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 8:39 a.m. CST

    Optimus : Geeky great final words

    by Jaws Wayne

    Optimus Prime: With the All Spark gone, we cannot return life to our planet. And fate has yielded its reward: a new world to call home. We live among its people now, hiding in plain sight, but watching over them in secret, waiting, protecting... I have witnessed their capacity for courage, and though we are worlds apart, like us.., there's more to them than meets the eye... I am Optimus Prime, and I send this message to any surviving Autobots taking refuge among the stars.. We are here. We are waiting...

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 9:21 a.m. CST

    "Lay-Sir-Beek, fuck-shit-up."

    by El Borak

    i would shit my pants with glee if that were in the movie.

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Yaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy for Michael Bay!!!!

    by JDanielP

    I enjoyed the first one. And I'm ready for another bucket of popcorn. :-)

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Jaws Wayne

    by BRUTICUS

    Yeah dude THAT was cheezy as shit. And so missed the point of what transformers was. In the cartoon, THEY WANTED TO GET HOME. THATS REAL. An alien species wouldn't give up trying to get to their home world. These guys just decide to hide out on earth for the rest of their lives. And that makes you think well, I guess Cybertron is a pretty dull place. In the cartoon and comics all they could talk about was Cybertron and trying to get back there. In the pilot 3 part episode THAT WAS THE PLOT. The Autobots and Decepticons were racing to get back to Cybertron. Bays Transformers are weaksauce.

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 4:09 p.m. CST

    Red Eyes? Pile of old Brown Eyes more like...

    by BiggusDickus

    Do we really need another $200 million toy commercial?

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 5:18 p.m. CST

    has harry seen slumdog millionaire...

    by emeraldboy

    one of the best films of last year. I cannot recommend the movie highly. suberb. the cinemtography, the acting and the score. all carried me along and I wasnt bored for an istant. Boyle's best film since trainspotting. and its about as non hollywood as you can get. Hopefully thie will be danny boyles year to get some awards. He is really overdue.

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 7:29 p.m. CST

    BUZZSAW EJECT

    by Its a LION

    OPERATION: HELP SELL MY TOY

  • Jan. 10, 2009, 8:31 p.m. CST

    Goatse?!?

    by thebrendan

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 7:01 p.m. CST

    Hmm...

    by BV

    Dunno if this has been said, yet--didn't bother to wade through all the talkbacks--but whoever's face that is, it resembles the decepticon logo, faintly.

  • Jan. 11, 2009, 7:12 p.m. CST

    For the Love of SHIT!

    by Yelnick McWaWa

    It's a real hoot and very revealing to see this pack of assholes dogpile on "Transformers" when last week they defended that fucking "Speed Racer!" Stop the hypocritical bullshit. It's bad enough you child murderers voted for Obama.