Jan. 7, 2009, 3:09 a.m. CST
Been a long wait and will be sad to see this show finally end.
Jan. 7, 2009, 3:11 a.m. CST
..really I do. LET'S GO.
Jan. 7, 2009, 3:23 a.m. CST
by Media Messiah
If that was preview designed to make people want to watch this show, they need to go back to the drawingboard?
Jan. 7, 2009, 4:45 a.m. CST
I was going to post about how finally we won't have to see BSG stories on Co-Axial anymore. <p> And then I remembered that it's been YEARS and we're still seeing stories and references to Buffy or Naked Mandy on 24... FUCK. We're going to be hearing about BSG for the next 10 years because Herc can't let go. <p> FUCK!
Jan. 7, 2009, 5:11 a.m. CST
...to your douchebag trolling posts, but seems we're gonna have to wait 10 years for that...because YOU can't let go.<p> :) Have a nice day. :)
Jan. 7, 2009, 5:44 a.m. CST
by Karl Childers
Jan. 7, 2009, 5:45 a.m. CST
by Karl Childers
SciFi sure went cheap on it. The disc itself is the original version complete with previews for some American Pie DTV and Balls of Fury.
Jan. 7, 2009, 6:39 a.m. CST
... but I have no idea what Helo said in that clip.
Jan. 7, 2009, 6:52 a.m. CST
The show is on its final 10 episodes, not sure why you would think its trying to attract new viewers and besides even if it was that preview (well first 90 secs of 1st episode)was clearly for exisitng fans. Hows life btw?You have a good new year?<BR><BR>Ok from watching it am just wondering if there are no signs of human life then where did the signal that brought them there come from? also when D'anna said she also found the same (no humans) could it mean that she in fact is being truthful but omitting the fact they have located signs of a cylon presence? <BR><BR>
Jan. 7, 2009, 7:41 a.m. CST
After last season and the beginning of this one, I think this show has stayed way past its time.
Jan. 7, 2009, 7:48 a.m. CST
Something or someone gave Kara the signal via her viper. It looks like TPTB are setting up the big reveal in that regard.
Jan. 7, 2009, 7:57 a.m. CST
I agree with V'Shael and Jae; most everything since the shocking end to Season Two and their abruptly leaving New Caprica (only four episodes into the third season) has been aimless garbage by comparison.
Jan. 7, 2009, 8:19 a.m. CST
by Real Deal
As do many others. The only garbage here is the trolls that are out in force. Their dubious input will last well beyond the end of this show on talkback as they'll just find another show to diss.
Jan. 7, 2009, 8:37 a.m. CST
I barely read the talkbacks anymore. I can't stand the mentality of a retard continuing to watch a show for years and continuing to complain about its quality. Those in question should get a life and move on, instead of endeavoring to feed their ego by instructing everyone else as to what fools they are, including the creators of the show.
Jan. 7, 2009, 8:39 a.m. CST
Are you crazy? This show is ending at the peak of it's prime. Its never been better and season 4.0 was simply wonderful. Its great that it won't fizzle out like so many great shows often do. Another great show that ended on top was Farscape. Of course that was not by the choice of its creators but 4 great seasons is better than 9 seasons where 5 are great, 1 is good, 1 is ok, and two are garbage. Yeah I'm looking at you X-Files.
Jan. 7, 2009, 8:42 a.m. CST
Happy endings suck. Don't let us down BSG!
Jan. 7, 2009, 8:55 a.m. CST
Galactica peaked with New Caprica, and jumped the shark with the Final Four reveal. Last season was depressing in its aimlessness and continual pushing of the reset button. I'm watching the last 10 only because I'm pot-committed at this point.
Jan. 7, 2009, 9:10 a.m. CST
For my two bits, the cliffhanger should have been the season ending.
Jan. 7, 2009, 9:15 a.m. CST
Jan. 7, 2009, 9:48 a.m. CST
by Karl Childers
Jan. 7, 2009, 9:56 a.m. CST
If they have flying motorcycles in these last 10 episodes or super Cub Scouts I will be very excited!
Jan. 7, 2009, 10:18 a.m. CST
Dirk Benedict will be showing up at any moment smoking a cigar and saying "Gotcha" as the final Cylon model. But I'll really be impressed if they can somehow wrangle a guest appearance from Lorne Greene.
Jan. 7, 2009, 10:25 a.m. CST
lets just go..<p> *bzzzt bzzzt bzzzt the eagle has landed bzzzt*<p> END CREDITS
Jan. 7, 2009, 10:32 a.m. CST
by Admiral Nelson
I started out loving this show, and I'll watch the final 10, but the New Caprica stories should've lasted at least half a season -- perhaps longer, and to my mind, the Season 3 ending was the point at which the show officially lost my interest. I thought Baltar's trial was boring as hell, the 4 new hidden Cylons made no sense, and the return of Kara to a real-world rock song was a misfire. In addition, the return of Roslin's cancer was a lame "try to make the viewers care again" gimmick -- kill her already but don't put the audience through this ridiculous roller coaster. And finally, the entire 4th season was simply treading water. It was a great show at first, but the absence of a clear direction for the overall series, from the beginning, has become glaringly obvious. They *have* been making it up as they go, and even Ron Moore has admitted it. Well, Ron -- it shows.
Jan. 7, 2009, 10:34 a.m. CST
My least favorite parts of the show were always the weird metaphorical spirituality crap, so basically, they decided to downplay all the cool military action and "how are we going to survive" drama, and focus almost entirely on this spirituality stuff. Agh, I'm only sticking around at this point because I've been with it so long I might as well see the end.
Jan. 7, 2009, 11:16 a.m. CST
by Mr. Nice Gaius
...and I hope they "bring it home" for the final 10 eps. I was a little disappointed in the meandering that took place during S4 but I do not think the first half was without its moments.<P>The now exposed flaw in the show has been the indulgence of seemingly significant character development that has done little to advance the overall plot. Somewhere along the way, I think the sense of pushing the story forward got lost amidst things like Kara's angst and the murky mystical underpinnings.<P>The show has always been at its best when it focused on the Fleet (the political meets military via the WEST WING and HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER) and the choices made by Adama and Roslin.
Jan. 7, 2009, 11:17 a.m. CST
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Curious. Why is that? Who else should they have been?
Jan. 7, 2009, 11:21 a.m. CST
What the hell else are we gonna watch? Other than Lost there ain't much.
Jan. 7, 2009, 11:24 a.m. CST
Jan. 7, 2009, 12:22 p.m. CST
Roslin's even holding the little plant like Wall-e.
Jan. 7, 2009, 12:30 p.m. CST
It doesn't help that the show still hasn't revealed a damn thing about them. If they have always had these sleeper agents, why not use them to destroy the fleet on countless occasions? And why make their identities secret to the cyclons themselves? And, ugh, they've gotten so bogged down in this stupid mythology. Why couldn't it have remained as a military/political drama!
Jan. 7, 2009, 12:31 p.m. CST
for Sci-Fi channel to start dicking us around with the year long breaks in caprica
Jan. 7, 2009, 1:11 p.m. CST
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Well, it's pretty hard to use sleeper agents to destroy the Fleet when you don't even know who your sleeper agents are! But the nature of the Final Five has not yet been disclosed and the fact that they were an unknown, even to the Cylons, was established awhile ago.<P>Word is that the Final Cylon will be revealed relatively early in the show's return. And I have a feeling that the nature of the Final Five will be discussed/disclosed soon after.
Jan. 7, 2009, 1:14 p.m. CST
for holding these back so long. sure, they want to try to milk a money cow, but all they've done is turn me off to the network on the whole. and none of their new programs look that interesting.
Jan. 7, 2009, 1:33 p.m. CST
I have noticed this since the series began. There is something odd about the way they either dub or cut in dialogue. There are often things that are very hard to discern.
Jan. 7, 2009, 1:39 p.m. CST
And I don't have to remember anything!!! Fuck that.
Jan. 7, 2009, 1:41 p.m. CST
I believe the stupid door is to your left. Thirs plenty of stupid stuff on televisin for people who think the best part of BSG sucks. This show is not for you. Go watch 24 instead.
Jan. 7, 2009, 1:44 p.m. CST
I'll give you guys a little inside information. ALL STORIES ARE MADE UP AS THEY GO ALONG. Everything that is created works this way. Authors and writers are just as surprised as the readers when they reach the end of a story. Thats part of the process. Its rare to ever have 100% of anything figured out right off the bat. The term "making it up as you go along"is deceptive. You can let your characters and plot lines guide you to their logical conclusion. Once you set up the pieces they almost move on their own. The stories in a sense tell themselves. I know geeks want to be assured that their favorite shows are somehow all planned ahead of time...but they're not and guess what..thats actually okay and quite normal.
Jan. 7, 2009, 3:08 p.m. CST
to cut all the episodes into 90 second clips and show one every week
Jan. 7, 2009, 3:28 p.m. CST
by Johnny Smith
That is all. Oh, and if it's Gaeta or Dualla, I'm calling "fucking lame".
Jan. 7, 2009, 3:31 p.m. CST
What an advert at the beginning, my gods, anyone else remember when BSG was funny? like insanely so, I mean "no more mister nice Gaius" genius, now its all doom and gloom and final model bs, I honestly do not care who the final model is, I hope its Fabio.<P>Still an amazingly great show it just lost its way, oddly enough it happened just as Lost found its.<P>The Cylons had a plan, the writers sure never.
Jan. 7, 2009, 3:52 p.m. CST
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Don't you remember Baltar's line from the trial? (Something along the lines of):<P>"You missed, BUTTERFINGERS!"<P>See? The show is still funny. Heh.
Jan. 7, 2009, 3:54 p.m. CST
by Mr. Nice Gaius
A political terrorist (played by a key OS cast member) ascends to the rank of Vice President.<P>Remember kids, you heard it here first.
Jan. 7, 2009, 4:09 p.m. CST
I mean one hilarious line per episode isn't too much to ask for, I still love the show and am very intrigued to see how it ends. Cool you replied right after I name checked you, I was going to mention you but am a lazy poster.
Jan. 7, 2009, 4:09 p.m. CST
What was the point of hiding what we've already heard a dozen or more times on the show. I still love the show. Will probably junk my tv once it's over. But I really thought the Gaius Christ bit of the past season was a sharkjumping moment.
Jan. 7, 2009, 4:10 p.m. CST
She nailed that scene in so many ways, made me shiver and laugh.
Jan. 7, 2009, 4:56 p.m. CST
Jan. 7, 2009, 4:58 p.m. CST
...like when D'Anna put a choke hold on Brother Cavil from her goo tube after being awakened.
Jan. 7, 2009, 5:11 p.m. CST
I'm a writer and I'd have to agree that a lot of stuff is made up as you go along. When I set to write something I usually know the beginning and the ending. I use the characters to discover what happens in the middle part. Sometimes the ending even changes. So a great deal of the script is "made up" as you go along. And as for humor: "Yup, (CHOMP CHOMP) Kara got married, (CHOMP CHOMP), Found a priest and everything, (CHOMP CHOMP), Something wrong? (CHOMP CHOMP I think that's just hilarious.
Jan. 7, 2009, 5:18 p.m. CST
...the last survivors of Earth finally reach Caprica and the system of the 12 colonies, hoping to start over again, only to find it barren and nuked.
Jan. 7, 2009, 5:21 p.m. CST
You're sick man.
Jan. 7, 2009, 5:21 p.m. CST
I'm a pretentious wanker.
Jan. 7, 2009, 5:24 p.m. CST
RDM discusses the process of coming up with the FINAL FIVE story arc.<p>It's worth reading IMHO.
Jan. 7, 2009, 5:26 p.m. CST
Murder in the way you mean does not apply.
Jan. 7, 2009, 5:54 p.m. CST
I had just made a post about laughing at murder myself, the presidents half hearted attempt on Baltar, her reaction is hilarious after she comes out her vision.
Jan. 7, 2009, 7:26 p.m. CST
by Media Messiah
Life, it could be worse, I guess, but I wish it was better.<BR><BR>As far as Galactica, I suppose you're right, it's just that the clip was so overly cryptic, I just thought they could have at least released a clip that was more to the point and exciting.<BR><BR>Happy New Year to you and yours Medicinaluser...and may all your dreams come true!!!
Jan. 7, 2009, 8:09 p.m. CST
Don't get on Roslin bad side when it comes to her job of saving humanity, right?<p>Yes, that scene with Baltar was funny (as well as serious) for me because of the irony of it all. Baltar FINALLY decides to come clean but he does so with the wrong person. Good thing Elosha showed up in Roslin's vision.
Jan. 7, 2009, 9:30 p.m. CST
Happy New Year, Sir!<p> You were correct, as usual: the interview is a good read. I especially like the Yes List of Questions That WILL Be Answered this season :-)<p>And HEY to you, too, MNG!<p>counting the days now, not the weeks!!
Jan. 7, 2009, 10:02 p.m. CST
In the case of a show like Battlestar Galactica (or X Files or Twin Peaks, etc.) it's that the promotions for the show explicitly proclaim to the audience that a full story line and plot arc has been thought out ahead of time for the show. They use it as a lure. When it turns out later that the show creators were bs-ing the audience of course many of them will be upset. It is an inevitable and natural human reaction to being falsely led on. If show creators want the audience to stop complaining about plots wandering then they shouldn't lie to the audience in the first place. It's as simple as that.
Jan. 7, 2009, 10:10 p.m. CST
The hater haters around here need to turn their sensors down a bit. Someone who is disappointed with the direction a show has gone isn't hating on the show. They cleary were and might still be a fan in some respects, and they are merely venting honest frustation. By contrast a hater is someone who was never a fan, hates a show through and through, and posts in an attempt to intentionally spoil everyone elses fun by peeing in the punchbowl. There is a big difference.
Jan. 8, 2009, 3:09 a.m. CST
Dude, there's gonna be reasonable on both sides. Some will see that you're disappointed with the show. Some will call you a hater regardless. <p> But fuck it, it's an AICN talkback: widely regarded as being here just for abuse, both the giving and the taking.
Jan. 8, 2009, 6:01 a.m. CST
"I bet there'll be some scene where... by tangcameo Jan 7th, 2009 05:18:43 PM ...the last survivors of Earth finally reach Caprica and the system of the 12 colonies, hoping to start over again, only to find it barren and nuked." Everything that has happened will happen again. Good thinking, I like it.
Jan. 8, 2009, 6:55 a.m. CST
Try turning the bass down on your surround. Same thing happened to me and I realized the balance was all screwed up on my receiver.
Jan. 8, 2009, 8:03 a.m. CST
"The Cylons have a plan, but the writers don't."
Jan. 8, 2009, 9:36 a.m. CST
What an awesome line --a horribly out of place joke, and yet it was awesomely funny that ended up working so well because of Baltar's hubris. ( and James Callis' fantastic portrayal ) <BR><BR> I think both the writers and James Callis deserve Emmys for making Baltar so amazingly sleezy and self centered, likable and detestable at the same time, and yet not without pity, logic or sense of purpose. <BR><BR> I've always thought that if Baltar is a cylon, it will ruin the entire series because he is the true symbol for humanity in the series.
Jan. 8, 2009, 10:06 a.m. CST
They really need to stop with these 5 season long mysteries. I mean LOST has so many things left unexplained. BSG still has secrets from the MINISERIES for godsakes. It does need to stop.
Jan. 8, 2009, 10:37 a.m. CST
by Cletus Van Damme
Jan. 8, 2009, 10:42 a.m. CST
Some of the hidden stuff like the "eye of jupiter" or whatever the hell it is was, was in pretty early...season 2 is when we see it in Starbuck's apartment and yet we just found out its true meaning a few episodes ago <BR><BR> Of course alot of this is technically planned since many episodes follow the original series much more closely than most people realize.
Jan. 8, 2009, 2:51 p.m. CST
The first 2.5 seasons were some of the best television ever, with incredible effects, acting everything, not to mention a fantastic sci-fi storyline in a time when sci-fi seems to be dying out. And it is the strength of those first seasons that makes me despise them for taking the series in such an odd direction in its second half. The best parts of the show were always the political machinations in the fleet, the ideas on how to practically survive on their own in space, and the tactics and planning against the (then still evil) cyclons. Now they've made the cyclons into allies, made Baltar a self-reightous "serious" character, and focused almost entirely on prophecies, and religous babel, and dream-visions. These are not the kind of things I wanted out of a serious sci-fi show, and its a real shame things have turned out this way.
Jan. 8, 2009, 4:52 p.m. CST
The third season REALLY managed to sag in the middle... and yes, they have some explaining to do regarding why anyone should really give a shit about the Final Five. But Season 4 was great... and reaching Earth in the middle of the season was a relief to me (I was worried that it would be the final shot of the series, the humans approaching the planet).
Jan. 9, 2009, 3:35 p.m. CST
On Deep Space 9 and Babylon 5.
Jan. 9, 2009, 3:38 p.m. CST
It's like as if when a sci-fi show becomes successful they always feel they have to elevate t with some religious analogy, now I know a lot of people are religious but it does seem over used to explain sci-fi shows, which given there nature seems a little odd.<P>Maybe it's a hold over from last century, The Matrix did it too.
Jan. 9, 2009, 8:24 p.m. CST
AS long as it doesn't involve Patrick Duffy stepping out of a shower or a snowglobe I think it will be okay.
Jan. 10, 2009, 1:32 p.m. CST
3 hours long.
Jan. 10, 2009, 9:13 p.m. CST
That would be one wild ride.