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WTF of the Day: Korean ROBOCOP Fried Chicken? Will Darren Aronofsky serve us a tub? OMG - Now With 100% More Robocop WTF!!!
Ok - Harry here again... You know how I was trying to make a stretch with a YOUTUBE video to Darren Aronofsky's upcoming ROBOCOP movie? Well... I'd say ROBOCOP following THE WRESTLER makes a shitload of sense...
Thanks Zax
Hey folks, Harry here... What the fuck? Ok - first off, I'll acknowledge, it is in fact a SLOW NEWS DAY. But this is Cool in a what the fuck kinda way. Plus it gives us all a chance to discuss having watched Darren Aronofsky's THE WRESTLER - how we feel he'll approach ROBOCOP. Aren't you kinda curious as hell what he'll do? I had a source on the inside state to me and the other AICNers that Darren's ROBOCOP will have balls, STEEL BALLS. And my instant cynical brain thought... "God, I hope not in a Joel Schumacher mid- to late 90s kinda way!" But I got what he meant, he meant this wasn't going to be a pussy version of ROBOCOP - my biggest curiousity about the film isn't so much the juvenile inquiries into whether it'll meet some expectant Gore quotient or Tits ratio, but rather... Will Darren put ROBOCOP in a more realistic, less openly black satire mode?
One of the myriad of reasons that the sequels didn't work was that 1) Paul Verhoeven didn't return - and 2) that kind of Black Satire is something that Paul Verhoeven does that it seems nobody else in the industry is really capable of. As is evidenced by the ROBOCOP and STARSHIP TROOPERS sequels. Sure, the writers sometimes wrote it - and the satire in theory was there, it just wasn't executed so well.
That said, I haven't seen a single bit of winking at the camera and the audience from DARREN ARONOFSKY. And honestly, I'm not sure I want to. Imagine if he drops the overt humor and goes serious with this story. Creating a Science Fiction HARD BOILED with Robocop as our Chow Yun Fat (no, not jumping with two guns through bird feathers). A film where he is created by a corporation or government to address the spiking concern of an increasingly violent impoverished inner city. OR would Robocop fall apart in that sort of serious environment. Does Robocop need this:
In order to be palatable? In the Japanese Anime universe - the "Ghost in the Shell" of cybernetic law enforcement has been done seriously with great success, but would that play domestically? I think it would and I think that's exactly what I'd like to see Darren Aronofsky do. To create a Robocop film that plays it all straight and creates a science fiction universe that he belongs and works in. Maybe Robocop isn't the first of his kind, maybe he's the only one that remembered who he was? Who knows. What do you want out of a new direction on ROBOCOP - and damn, I sure did get serious on a post that was supposed to be about a crazy Korean Fried Chicken Commercial with ROBOCOP in it. But... well, I take my ROBOCOP seriously and would love to see Darren do the same.
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This could go either way....good or terrible.
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Wonder what Arronofsky's Watchmen would have been like... or if we'll ever see Zack Snyder's. :(
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...but it sure smells good!
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Tentacle porn has nothing on this.
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No no no no no...the Shia LeBeef response is enacted immediately upon this news coverage. Try making something original for once, or call it something other than "Robocop" for shit's sake.
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As pointed out several times in the above article, this is a Korean commercial, not Japanese.
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If his balls are steel than I hope his wiener is made of pixie dust because I'd buy that for a dollar!! Regardless, whatever he does I'll watch it. He could do a shot for shot remake of The Happening and I'd watch it.
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...really puts it over. Awesome.
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Hell yah.
But seriously... I think you hit on something, Harry. The "Ghost in the Shell" dead serious angle where dead humans are just commodities to be used to improve a companies IT and its stock worth. -
It can be cooler than Ghost in the Shell and Iron Man combined.
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Wow that was weird!
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im sorry, that sounded funny in my head
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they gotta keep that in there.
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Jan 03, 2009 9:26:10 PM CST
Sorry Harry but without the black satire it ain't Robocop....
by thecomedian
What makes the original so great is all the satire and the mean spirited streak that runs throughout it. The way the economy is going right now and with the automaker bailout happen the real Detroit is a paycheck away from becoming just like old detroit. I don't want to see Robocop played dead serious it would just be another action movie about a cyborg and we've got plenty of those already down the pike. I think Aronovsky did come somewhat close to creepy satire with the motivational juice guy in requiem. So don't count him out just yet.
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...or does he make shitty movies and go back later and call them satire? Robocop... Great movie, definite satire there. Starship Troopers... pretty good movie, probably satirical. We would have also accepted 'crazy German fascist playing it straight'. Showgirls? That's where we start wondering. Oh well. At least with a Verhoeven film you can always count on a woman being brutalized. So that's one constant.
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I'd imagine right now the studio demands are something like "make it dark and brooding like I dunno, The Dark Knight".
For Robocop I want over the top with an overlying sense of seriousness. I want something like last year's Rambo in a shiny metal suit.
I want to be shocked and entertained.
Mostly I want an unapologetic R-rated bloodbath of heretofore unseen dimensions, in a realistic setting where Robocop is truly the one and only hope of any semblance of order.
I want this Robocop to be the future's boogeyman.
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I gotta disagree Harry. "Realistic" Robocop would be completely missing the point of the movie. ROBOCOP is a classic not because it's about a fuckin robot man shooting a laser but because of what it said about corporate dominance in the '80s, the creeping privatization of everything and the glorification of violence in TV and movies at the time. Most of those things are way worse problems now then they were then. There is so much more to address. I want to see what a real Robocop movie looks like after Rodney King, after WTO, after Bush. I don't want to see a more realistic robot.
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I sort of agree on the fact that any Robocop story should always have a trace of satire, but it doesn't need to be so blatant or flippant. Darren could take Paul's satire and turn it into his global assessment of a world gone mad; I mean the world is a thousand fold what Verhoeven thought it was like in 87. And that makes for a potentially worthwhile remake and a piece of cinema gold.
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Mmm I rike Korlean flied chicken!!!
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Little League baseball team robs an electronic store????
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Soooooo obvious...
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... there's a joke to be made here...
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I am digging the Ghost in the Shell angle on this one... but we could use some bits of satire here and there too!
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the Gordon's Fisherman. I would not buy that for a dollar.
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He has a strict pablum babyfood diet.
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...what stephen hawking is to physics - inspired cinematic genius. along with cameron, nolan, fincher and lucas -ha! kidding about the great wattle-necked sellout- aronofsky is one of those RARE contemporary directors whose movie i'll go see by no other virtue other than the fact that it's him doing it, whatever it is. i like to think that him sitting down at the drawing board of how to proceed with Robocop would be a process of reverse-engineering the concept back to its basic notion...a cybernetic law-enforcement officer is created by a corporation to address the wave of violent crime plaguing a city...and knowing his story-telling sensibility, i'm happy to wait and be rocked by wherever he takes it from there.
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Robo was satire. The same way Dark Knight Returns was satire. In the end, RoboCop is a parody of what we have become -- sound bite news, Satanic corporations that buy their own bullshit with good public relations and over-the-top everything. Robo's about holding a funhouse mirror to our fucked up society and our slowly mechanized souls, not realism.
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Gotta love that ad. And did they use Back to the Future III music to score it? I know I know that track. Batshit.
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The "We Have A Winner/Juice" infomercial was something right out of Robocop if not darker and a bit creepy.
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Robocop HAS to be satire, bloody, brutal and malicious, if you want to change it that much Harry call it something else, or just make Ghost In The Shell
Robocop is up there with Aliens Terminators and Predators, hopefully this newer model will be better than the above franchises later entrys -
Spits tooth on desk.
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Hope they keep all the religious satire in it as well, although this is even trickier than the the social/political stuff. Verhoeven's main reason for taking on Robocop was that he could do a Christ movie, albeit an ultraviolent one. Also they gotta make a way cool looking robo suit.
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Dude thanks for teaching Bobby how to fly.
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is Japanese for "fry the chicken".
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Wouldn't the Hard Boiled version of Robocop Harry is talking about here actually be an adaptation of Frank Miller and Geof Darrow's Hard Boiled mini-series?
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Not up to par with the first but the satire was there, most definitely it was. The OCP commercial where the guy shoots himself because he didn't choose OCP Communications, genius.
The problem was with execution of the storyline, the effects, and at the periphery, moving to Houston instead of Detroit.
Robocop is the struggle between person and property; OCP owns his mechanical parts but he's still a person. That's something you have to over-arch through-out a series, not just a single film. -
Because the idea of Robocop is actually pretty fucking stupid. If Aronofsky played it straight, I think it might be sort of dumb. Without the satire, Robocop would have sucked. And without the satire, Starship Troopers would have sucked. Granted, many people still say that Starship Troopers DOES suck. And I see their point. I thought that it sucked the first time that I watched it, because I wasn't watching it for the satire. But Starship Troopers has REALLY grown on me, particularly after having watched it a second time after the 9/11/01 attacks and the following crap. So I STILL think that Starshoop Troopers is shit, but the satirical elements make the movie. And I think that Robocop was a lot like that, to a similar extent. So don't ditch the satire, or it's not really Robocop. I'd also like to add that instead of doing a remake, they ought to just do a direct sequel.
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Yeah, downtown Houston was too "pretty & modern" for ROBOCOP 2. This says about everything you need to know about the folks who made the sequels: they didn't even know where the story was supposed to be happenning. Imbeciles.
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Jan 03, 2009 11:20:46 PM CST
And I thought the Korean Robocop was weird... check this...
by kbarber29
FOX NEWS CHANNEL UNIVERSITY
http://fncu.foxnews.com/
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"Tentacle porn has nothing on this."
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Not sure which I'd prefer. I'd imagine Aronofsky's satire would be stark and more nightmarish than over-the-top funny, like Verhoeven's -- not that I'd have a problem with that. If his few previous films are any indication, and having just seen The Wrestler today (holy shit, what a movie), I see his Robocop being very much its own movie, less a remake, about a man dealing with the loss of his humanity, the dissolution of his dreams, and struggling on, to the bittersweet end. Aronofsky really seems to favor the interior stuff. But then again, this is Robocop, and there are going to be studio/audience expectations for action and violence, so maybe we'll see him flexing some new muscles. Maybe he was hoping to do that with Batman, and here's his chance. Whatever, it's always fascinating when a great director first tackles a genre film.
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...how to use emdashes and other punctuation marks. It looks so unprofessional when he gets that wrong in every single post.
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That's if they can get away with a plastic robot....
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Jan 03, 2009 11:49:35 PM CST
"it's always fascinating when a great director first tackles a g
by anti-fanboy
...Like he did in The Fountain, I mean. Ahem.
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thas a fact
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Cool, but weird. And Robocop better be dark, satirical, and R rated.
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He can do drama well but does he know what is cool and what isn't? Commercial films rely on this greatly. We will see.
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"Do you know how to fry, Bobby?"
"Crarence no!!!"
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...is the fact that someone actually believes Robocop can increase frozen chicken sales. I would love to have a transcript of the meeting where the idea was pitched.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF5X2t7JyyA&feature=PlayList&p=C531FF017556CA25&index=25
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGJWQlqj0n4&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4sBbO3o9zs&feature=PlayList&p=C531FF017556CA25&index=28
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Jan 04, 2009 1:05:51 AM CST
It would have been dope if Clarence Boddicker came out of the TV
by pissed off and bitter
and said: "Bitches, leave!!"
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Nice touch.
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Other than Robot on Drug-addicted Robot action was the line-up of Robocop 2's they ran through, each one more insane than the previous.
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i gotta agree with vern here.
robocop is about bad taste...that's what made it so great.
i just don't think it will be as interesting without elements like excessive gore, way over the top prostitutes, syringe filled junkies and obese corrupted politicians on the shitter jerking off to the sears catalog during their lunch break.
key word is depravity. the odds should always be stacked against murphy. if he walks into the middle of a liquor store robbery where 5 guys are juiced up on roids or meth, he should just blow the whole building up and we should watch those shitstain junkies burn alive. then he should help an old lady cross the street while people are screaming and on fire. -
Good call everyone who noticed it (JediRob being the first). But it's actually the theme from the TRAILER for Back to the Future 3. It was composed specifically for the preview attached to the end of part 2, before they started to scored the third movie at all. It's not really used in the movie itself, but it's become synonymous with modern western or pioneer comedies (or anything taking place in the wilderness), as it's been sampled for countless other trailers since. Really really odd fit in the commercial, as is everything else in the commercial.
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How does he...you know....poop?
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Why did I type that? Damned opiates.
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Otherwise Sting could've been trapped in its rubbery confines for several minutes!
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Emdashes are my favorite. Also, the only good part of Robocop 2 was all the stop motion stuff—like the failed Robocops who keep killing themselves, and the big fight at the end. Not good was the robodick scene and the snot-faced kid gangster. (I threw in that emdash for you, rassmguy.)
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with them damn opiates.
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The reason Robocop was a success wasn't the satire... it was that it was a fuckin robot man shooting a gun like a robot powered Dirty Harry. In the muscle bound gym tonic obsessed 80's america, it was all the audience cared about, the blood and guts and explosions. The reason the sequel couldn't work is that they came in too late, Robocop only works in a Reagan led america.
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The quote is actually "Just give me my fucking phone call."
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Jan 04, 2009 2:40:25 AM CST
FYI that fried chicken commercial is in KOREAN
by porkinz the x-wing instructor
not japanese!!
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How about something dealing with the rise of OCP, and a proto-proto-Robocop program...? Maybe the Peter Weller Robocop is the outgrowth of a more sinister and classified program being done by OCP in the Aronofsky movie...in other words, how did OCP begin? Maybe young Dick Jones can be in it?
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I'm a diehard Verhoeven fan (I own all of his movies except for "Showgirls", which I did not enjoy). But I do acknowledge that "Starship Troopers 3: Marauder" (dir. Edward Neumeier) was a great sequel to Verhoeven's "Starship Troopers", despite the lack of Verhoeven. If you haven't seen it, and like the original "Starship Troopers", give it a try. Anyway, some dude remaking RoboCop = I'm not interested.
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... was when they made those OCP banners look like Nazi banners. Trivial, yes, but the best part nonetheless.
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Back in the late 90s Aronofsky was working (I think with Frank Miller) on adapting RONIN to the screen. So I'm sure he's already thought a lot about futuristic cyborg ideas. I think RONIN is Miller's best book. It's the one that should be made into a movie by a top director. I know. I heard somewhere it was on again but with Miller's THE SPIRIT tanking who knows?
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God, both those cracked me up. I was actually hoping I'd see Robocop trying to wrestle someone.
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...Is from the 3rd time I saw the film in a theater full of soldiers in Fayetteville, NC (Ft. Bragg). They were pretty silent all the way through the first minutes, even through the barrage from ED-209 in the conference room. After the guns went quiet, the place was dead quiet for about 5 seconds until they cut to the wide shot of ED-209 with the barrels smoking. Suddenly, 500 grunts went ape shit at the site of that and roared at every big boom from then on through the rest of the film. Priceless...
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Jan 04, 2009 3:31:47 AM CST
If it's a sequel, I'm optimistic. If it's a remake, I'm not int
by mr nicholas
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should Murphy have been able to overcome the programming to shoot Jones? A former gaming buddy of mine hated Murphy not being able to break the control, but for me doing it differently would have robbed Dan O'Herlihy of a nice moment and veered out of the black satire about corporate control.
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Leave it alone.
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This not only needs to be hard-R and satirical. It also needs what most modern movies lack:QUOTABLE DIALOGUE.
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SILVER SURFER'S SHINY STEEL SAC? (Say that three times fast. In church.)
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Remaking Robocop is retarded.
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When a big movie is out, they somehow mix it with wrestling to help promote, like when Arnie was on WWF
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Damn You Michael Bay
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Looks like the Japanese buffed him
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And Korean fried chicken and a SHINY Robocop...all signs of the end of times-.
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Not even close to joking.
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Aronofonoaskyofono is smarter than that.
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That Robocop wrestling flick was pre-WWE domination. Un-tits, it was.
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FRIED CHICKEN
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As much as I hate to go down this road because of where it could lead the talkback, the movie could play up the idea of OCP creating its own robo-police force for the purpose of profit rather than public safety. At best, OCP would just see Robocop as a way of safeguarding their investment in New Detroit by stopping criminals from wrecking it.Though that might be too serious, if the original Robocop really was supposed to be satirical.
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Try finding Rick Steiner arguing with Chucky. Yes, that Chucky. And there's this http://tinyurl.com/8l9ucw
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The first movie. Iam talking about the prototype Robocops scene in the sequel. I nearly forgot about that scene until somebody mentioned it above. How good was that? I could of watched them rolling those fuck ups out all day. Remember that fanfare music they so proudly played as the announced the next step in law enforcement? Haha! stupid bastards. My number 1 prototype? That crazy fucker who goes bonkers and rips off his helmet to expose a skull screaming, I can here the scream now...LOL!
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Somebody call Scorekeeper!
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that features a guys arms get extra long when he falls out of a building.
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I don't care if his robocop is the biggest turd ever made, I'm buying a ticket.
as for the people calling his movie a turd, eat shit. it hasn't even been story-boarded at this point much less shot. give the man a chance.
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The "human" angle is merely an excuse... the original was a hit because nazi reagan amerikka could fantasise being an indestructible cop roaming the city and killing all the bad guys including anyone owning a business just because business are dangerous in a fascist state. The satire is merely a decoy to con us all. Anyone thinking Robocop is great is crazy, Cameron Terminator pisses all over this poor atempt by Orion to create their own robot killer franchise. Robocop is a toaster.
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Jan 04, 2009 7:37:46 AM CST
I love me some Agronofsky, but is new material too much to ask f
by fireclown
That's all I got, but I mean it.
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Lightning-in-a-bottle casting, a humorous outsider's(Voerhoven) take on corporate America and the Vietnam War, Frank Miller's "Dark Knight Returns", post-apocalyptic themes that were so effective in Cold War era cinema, and friggin Clarence Boddicker, man.
We live in kinda dark times right now, so maybe the time is right for a new take on Robocop who's become a bit of a pop icon, and perhaps a piece whose legacy will be a cinematic reflection of the current socio-political milieau if Aronofsky (who isn't as geek movie talented as voerhoeven) takes our hero in the right direction. -
was supposed to play Murphy
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is like letting her 2 young kids sit and watch Robocop, one of the most violent movies / characters ever. Tipper Gore is shitting monkies somewhere right now
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I think the original was great for its time, but if it were released today it'd flop. Tastes have changed and current audiences like darker, more 'realistic' films. Take a look at Batman, the 60's version, the Burton version, and today's version (skip the Forever and B&R versions, they were universal shit). The 60's, 90's and today's versions were all massive hits for their time. If someone had just tried directly remake the 60's version w/ super camp today, there would be theaters set on fire. Hell it almost happened with B&R. I'm sure audience taste will change again and 20-30 years down the road people will be screaming for Adam West style batman to be reincarnated. Same with Robocop. Right now a very dark & serious version would go down well. There will probably come a day when the original camp comes back, assuming we don't have real Robocops by then...
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Don't get me wrong, I love his films, but they hardly have his audience rolling in the aisles. I would be surprised if he did pull off the tone of satire. Of course he could make a politically aware film that wasn't so immersed in the humor of "A Modest Proposal." The only problem is that the name Robocop is inherently absurd. It's kind of difficult to take seriously without a wink to the audience.
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It had the right balance of humor and action, with the satire played just right (as compared with Robocop 2, where the satiricle elements felt like a stunt... little leaguers robbing stores and such.) Admittedly, with the option for CGI available now, perhaps modern audiences wouldn't accept the stop-motion effects (which I love), but otherwise the movie would play well. And it always kept a good emotional core to the story, with the Murphy elements of the story being far more than camp. It's all about the balance... making the audience laugh instead of roll their eyes, and the first movie played its satire perfectly.
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And that's the reason Aronofsky is interested. The growth of the "monsters" self awareness. I can say with 99% certainty that Aronofsky is not interested in (as you so eloquently put it) "gore and tits quotient".
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Nah nah nah nah.. bang!
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Jan 04, 2009 10:57:23 AM CST
Yeah Darren Aronofsky doesn't care about gore and tits...
by thecomedian
This is the guy who brought us "Ass to Ass" with Jennifer Connelly. Shortsighted dummies.
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. . . a really good Robocop movie will depend ALMOST entirely on the villain(s). The villain has to be sinister enough to actually scare the audience. Only if the villain is that scary will an audience accept that the "desperate measure" of putting your future in the hands of a bat-fetishist or a cyborg-tank is warranted. The first Robocop didn't have that "great" villain, but it did set the environment where "villainy" in general had gotten so out-of-hand that it was time to try something different. The second movie had the really great plot hook of the police strike, but it didn't execute well. Forgive me for falling victim to the cliche of the moment, but another Robocop could be really great if it took a couple (not too many though) of lessons from The Dark Knight. The main lesson being to make it a really interesting, yet TRADITIONAL, CRIME DRAMA. If the story centers around Robo and his partner (I always loved that Robo still had a partner. Even with all his hardware, he wasn't a 'lone wolf'.) having to do interesting police leg-work to solve a mystery and make the caller, it could be really special. In my mind, the perfect Robocop movie would be something like Law & Order: Criminal Intent, set in a dystopian Detroit, with a cyborg as the main character, and the villain as some sort of traditional criminal with a futuristic twist. I'd also borrow a little from the cops in Gattaca. In fact, forget Robocop for a moment, there's so much potential for material if up-and-coming genre directors tried to do "straight" hard-boiled/film noir/crime drama set in the future. We've seen hints with movies like Gattaca, Blade Runner, and Strange Days. But I think it's a recipe that has yet to be done REALLY well.
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. . . the cops had better not drive Ford Tauruses.
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Jan 04, 2009 11:07:07 AM CST
Robocop Licks Vagina Tree, Does Space Yoga, Takes Self Too Serio
by laserpants
This will be Aronofsky's ROBOCOP. It is going to be a disaster. He's not smart enough for satire, he's more like a really arrogant 14 year old who thinks he's deep and insightful, but is actually kind of a moron. But, hey, he is banging Rachel Weisz, so he must be doing something right.
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Haha! It sounds like Robo says, "What the Hell! Fried chicken!"
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More blood to the winky less to the brain. I bet that is why you never see him use it as a giant bat or tail.
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No it had about 5, that is one of the best gang of bastards in a movie ever, EnforcementDroid-209, Dick Jones, even the sequal had Cain who just about did the job.
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Lest ye forget.
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Just wondering because the W election shoots that theory to shit. Comics/movies/books are all about well written well expressed scenes. The villain will ONLY be accepted if well written. People do not apply the same logic, matter of fact it is called Suspension of Disbelief, to a fictional world as they do to the real. Fictional worlds are escapist. People want escape. But too much horror or gore can not be translated from a fictional world properly. In fact is more the tension of narrow escape which drives a fictional plot to be outstanding. Steinbeck had many such moments in his books without having the need of a villain seperate from the hero.
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and fried chicken doesn't like me. Na na na na na... BLAM! Well, give the man a hand.
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Sadistic. Exploitative. The last two were pretty much unwatchable. The first one had flashes of quality (great stop-motion animation) but was too over the top. Good Basil Poledouris score, though. So let a new Robobcop movie be whatever it wants to be. The originals aren't the old testament ya know.
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A new Robocop can make social and political commentary without having to be satirical. In fact, I thought the smirky-satirical tone got in the way of all the films. Robocop is Frankenstein reborn. And the world around him is a scary, dark possibility. Hell, it's practically true! I want to see a scare-the-crap-out-of-us re-telling of the tale that makes everyone sit up and take the message seriously. The beginnings of OCP are already here. Let's see Aronofsky play with that Kafka-esque little fact.
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Robocop is a fucking classic, I dunno why some people can't give credit where credit's due when it comes to Verhoeven. Robocop and Starship Troopers are both pretty underrated. Total Recall was also Awesome.
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I thought that's what you were referencing at first. It got me thinking, the Hard Boiled graphic novel is a great place to get your look and tone for a great Aronofsky Robo-Cop film, don't you agree, Harry?
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other than the amazing Geof Darrow art of course. It was only supposed to be a random 10 page short story, but when Miller saw the incredible Darrow art he expended it, and everything was written as an excuse to have Darrow draw the most insanely detailed scenes of carnage possible. It is a marvelous thing to look at the art for hours to try and catch every little detail that was drawn, but it reads like putrid ass.
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People who that term tend to live in their parents basement. Discuss.
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NO good at all. Verhoeven is a serious director. You can't remake him - and you can't grow bigger balls than him. My money is on Darren A putting this project to one side sooner or later...
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At the very end when he's talking to his wounded partner--MURPHY: "I'm a mess." ROBO: "Don't worry. They'll fix you..." (sad pause) "They fix everything." It sums up the whole movie.
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...the booming music, the satire, that's what made ROBOCOP such a good movie - take that away & you have another CYBORG, an earnest, boring sci-fi actioner - straight to DVD or the Sci-fi channel - the only way to make this fly would be to keep the satire & update it to the present day & comment on the sorry state of the economy & foreign affairs - update the satire, keep it cheeky - & it COULD work...I say COULD lightly.
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I actually saw that I wonder of that was Weller couldn't get a good Look. I still think they should leave Robocop alone how hard is it to make a original Movie Based on robocop? More Proof That Hollywood is broken and unimaginative.
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Is that the theme to Silverado in the background? As if this is not strange enough, the use of "epic western" theme music in the background is very odd.
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Serves me right for not reading the rest of the talkback... The Back to the Future 3 music it is - I stand corrected.
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People who forget to include verbs in their sentences are oft misunderstood. Discuss.
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will it be as good as this
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wUnMF7dV86k
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... to shove enough of that chicken up your STUPID WOP ASS, that you'll shit nuggets for a WEEK!!!
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Is Robocop the first appearance of the concept of the DVD? Boddicker puts a compact disc into Bob Morton's sweet stereo system and it plays a video of Dick Jones.
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The fried chicken guy had it. The wrestling guy didn't.
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i dont want to see a 'I ROBOT-COP' bullshit movie with robots feelings compassion and shit. i want to see robocop blasting rapers in an alley and telling kids to stay in school. arnofsky is going to blow this harder than i blew chunks after i got blown by a whore who blows for a living. in case you lost count, thats some hard blowing
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"ED-209 is your daughter."
"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!" -
http://tinyurl.com/8f9fje
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I was expecting some actual news...
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that's Korean for bow wow.
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...was priceless. Jolene Blalock and Marnette Patterson doing a garbled version of the 'Our Father' while the most evil vagina in the Universe was preparing to eat them, and the Marauders attitude jets were creating a halo around Marnette's head were not only funny, but great cinematography. And the fact that Jolene answered every line of Marnette's prayer as a question, not a recitation was just nuts. I found myself howling. I hope if Aronofsky goes black humour, he does it with real passion. Black humour will get you through times where even prayer will fail.
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Let GHOST IN THE SHELL take care of that itself. Good luck, Spielberg!And I'd much rather Aranofsky do something new than rehash & modify an all-to-recent action/satire classic.
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don't remake. don't reboot. don't re-imagine.
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Don't forget, the sparks from the bullets shooting from Johnny's marauder suit looked like Christian crosses. Awesome, awesome scene.
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He's got the muscle to shove this factory so far up your stupid wop ass, you'll shit snow for a year.
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Jan 04, 2009 7:01:30 PM CST
Aronofsky's ROBOCOP would absolutely fucking bomb....
by dannyglovers_dickblood
...no doubt about it. People don't give a fuck about him, they don't give a fuck about the character and they certainly wouldn't give a fuck about his take on a character they already don't give a fuck about.
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ROBOCOP: PRIME DIRECTIVES, the 8-hour TV miniseries from 2000? That's what a "serious" Robocop would be like.
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very low budget, nowhere near the original, but watchable. a hell of alot better than Robocop 2&3
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Dance 'til you drop.
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I loved the original Robocop and Starship Trooper, for all its clumsy pseudeofascism (and esp Verohoven's haughtiness over the film post-9/11) had a hamtastic B-movie appeal. So if you took the Verhoven social commentary out of that equation, would we be pleased? I don't know.
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Jan 04, 2009 9:23:59 PM CST
"Pi" was brilliant, but "Requiem for a Dream" was unwatchable
by leafar the lost
I am not sure about a DARREN ARONOFSKY directed Robocop. "Pi" was brilliant, but "Requiem for a Dream" was unwatchable in certain parts. I took a look at the movies he has directed, and his efforts are mixed at best. The main problem is that he is directing a remake of an action/sci-fi movie. If he tries to make it like "The Fountain" then it will be a box office and critical disaster. He would not be my first choice to direct Robocop.
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make that shit sexy
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...Harry? The world satirised in Robocop is alive and kick RIGHT NOW. It's one of the few remakes that could actually be pertinent. However, while Aronofsky is a fine stylist, his films are incredibly shallow and completely lacking in self awareness, which doesn't bode well for a movie about a robotic zombie cop. Even the move of location is retarded. From Detroit to L.A.? Why? Detroit is the murder capital of the U.S., its currently in the news spotlight, with its infastructure and business crumbling, not to mention that its CINEMATIC, unlike fucking L.A. which is about as boring a city as you can find without going to Sydney. Man, they need some actual talent on this production, and to avoid any advice from Harry. Thanks for the weird ass clips though.
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The first is a damn classic. It was brilliant because it hadn't been done before. I can't imagine someone doing a remake right
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it was fucking awesome
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...the Neumier/Miner outline for Robocop 2.
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Jan 05, 2009 12:29:17 AM CST
they're moving the location to LA? OH FUCK YOU!!
by dannyglovers_dickblood
Now is a better time than ever to keep it in Detroit. Sadly that city is fucked beyond repair at the moment and they need a Robocop.
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Fine, fine a movie about the inner city blah blah blah, how about an original story, and how about hollywood stop remaking everything from the 80's can't wait for the remake of Back to the Future, you know it's coming. Or worse the remake of Stayin Alive, with a new script by Sylvester Stallone!
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Jan 05, 2009 12:52:12 AM CST
BACK TO THE FUTURE REMAKE -- STARRING SHIA LABEEF!!
by dannyglovers_dickblood
With WILL FERRELL as DOC BROWN!!
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That's the most frighteningly plausible remake idea I've ever heard. Can you fucking imagine? I'm gonna be waking up in a cold sweat for weeks thinking about that.
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Fucking-A. I absolutely regret posting it. Moments later I realized....ya know, that actually sounds possible. FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK!!
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...I've got a feeling Aronofsky's interest in this revolves around the idea of man losing his humanity to technology and that kind of thing. Seems more his style. This ties in with the move to LA if you consider the artificiality/man made angle. I'm sure the satire and social commentary will still be there but will probably be taking a backseat to the themes I've already mentioned. Aronofsky always seems to me much more interested in the characters themselves rather than the world they live in.
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Jan 05, 2009 1:50:43 AM CST
Leafar the Lost...Hallelujiah brother! Reqieum is unwatchable
by quantize
easily one of the most over-rated films you hear people froth over..its horribly self conscious and try-hard...and The Fountain was almost but not quite as bad..I loved the Wrestler though..i hope he's gonna continue to drop the wanky music video effects and artsy fartsy tricks..
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That all comes from a Bloody Disgusting scoop claiming that it would be a sequel and not a remake. Mr. Disgusting or whoever offhandedly referred to "present day Los Angeles, 20 years after the termination of the Robocop program" but didn't acknowledge that that would be a change of location. It's not clear where he got his information from, if his scooper was real or if he had reported it accurately, but based on that one sentence of course it has been spread to ten thousand blogs and repeated as fact. Slashfilm recently interviewed Aranofsky, who said it was completely unconnecte to the original, which means at least the "20 years later" part is bullshit. It sounds like he wants to tell a completely different story, actually. He did say he plans to keep the "bitches leave" line though.
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Best Robocop sequel, for sure.
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Spielberg needs to stay the fuck away from GHOST IN THE SHELL.Seriously.
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....
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It keeps being mentioned in regards to a new Robocop, so how about someone greenlight a "Ghost in the Shell" movie with real actors. I would rather see that than another remake.
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Jan 05, 2009 7:47:47 AM CST
Takashii Miike To Direct Live Action GHOST IN THE SHELL!!!
by laserpants
Wouldn't that be a hot slice of awesome? Alas, it is a lie. Btw, they already tried to make a live action GHOST IN THE SHELL; it was crossed with TRON and called THE MATRIX. The first one was good and the following two were so bad, they almost ranked as awful as T2: WE WUB WOO ROBODADDY, but, okay, not quite THAT bad. Few things are as bad as T2: WE WUB WOO ROBODADDY.
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HAHAHAHHAHAHAH...AHHAHAAHAH
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That was surreal... and troubling. As for GITS live action... all I can say is GITS 2: Innocence was so much better than we deserved that I wouldn't dare push it. There is no reason that film should have worked, yet it did. On some days I like it more than the original even. So, I for one am content with it.
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Motoko Kusanagi & Leafar the Lost - haven't you guys heard? Spielberg and Dreamworks bought the rights to GITS earlier this year. Don't know if the Beard is going to actually direct the film but it's totally a done deal.
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was a great movie, and better than GiTS in many ways, but a live action could work, I think.
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and being brought back from it. and robotic shooting.
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Can't you just see the agony and longin on his face?!!! Come on, he's perfect!! It looks like he already has artificial skin! No, but seriously....I thought this idea sounded okay at first. Luckily you guys have been the voice of reason and have now convinced me to say fuck this. Go away Aronofsky. Not from the film scene as a whole (I save that advice for Spielberg) but just dont touch anything outside your little comfort zone. Stick with the moody shit and don't fuck with the action and/or satire. Verhoeven probably spit when he heard the news, in between stroking off to 19 year old Polish chicks rubbing themselves with chocolate syrup and begging "Please please pass the asparagus."
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fucking the fridge? Enjoy a smoke?
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after that fuckwit Kwame.
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Can you go a single day without a T2 reference? Or do you do it just for sport?
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That movie was a classic and broke the mold as afar a Effects were done, (if only they could have change Furlongs squeaky voice.)
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or extra-crispy?
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The one at the end that gets the toxic waste spilled on him.
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Prepare to be disappointed folks. Except I'm going to make the bold prediction that it'll be even worse than Attack of the Clones.
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Do you know something we dont? Are you one of the very privilaged few whos glimpsed the beauty that will be Pandora?
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Its for sport. I love watching how upset people get when I bust on their favorite gay father-complex action film, the film that invented the Michael Bay aesthetic (or should that be ASSthetic?) T2: WE WUB WOO ROBODADDY.
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Search your naked pics of DER AHHHHHHRNULD's buttcheeks, you know it to be true.
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waaa waa Cameron raped my Daddy waa waaa
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WAH! LaserPants doesn't like T2: WE WUB WOO ROBODADDY! Cameron is a has been! WAH!
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When I busted on T2? Maybe you even cried a little? Awww. Thats tho thweet! Maybe you should call your daddy and say hi. Or, you know, suck him off; whichever gets you higher on the whole robotic teutonic father-complex thingee.
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Any remake HAS to have Clarence putting some kind of beverage up his nose! Got that, Darren?
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...give some of his money to Production IG so they can make a whole season of Stand Alone Complex based on the original GitS manga? ...Good lord I need a towel now.
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well maybe we all didnt have that perfect slice of "americana" family, all sat around having dinner talking about your perfect day with your perfect daddy
Every thread with the mention of a robot in you enter and say something unfunny about T2 or Cameron, at least DANNY_GLOVER_D_B and others are funny when they do it, whats a movie you enjoy? tell us so we can come up with some shit jokes to paste in every TB -
It's common knowledge that LaserPants has become just about the sole defender of Hostel 2. Make of that what you will. Later gang!
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Ill leave it at that then.
On another note has anyone seen Ghost In The Shell 1.5 the remastered original with new cgi, sound and extra scenes? if so is it worth getting? as Ive heard some mixed feelings. -
That I don't care what you think about what I like! Go ahead and bust on it! I'm a huge Kubrick fan. Go ahead and bust on his films. No, seriously, go on, it'll be funny.
See, the thing is that I don't have schizophrenia. I'm not a morbidly obese virgin who lives in his mother's basement. Therefore, I don't think that the things I like are the same as me. I don't take personal offense at people making fun of stuff I like. Why? Because I have a life.
So, please, have at it! I enjoy watching you monkeys dance. Oh, and HOSTEL 2 TOTALLY kicks the shit out of T2: WHY DO YOU CWY? But then again, thats not saying much. EVERYTHING kicks the shit out of T2: SUBURBAN NAMBLA-MEMBER TEEN ANGST CIRCA 1991. Thats right, EVERYTHING. Yes, even the STAR WARS HOLIDAY SPECIAL. -
I bet you did. I bet you cwied and cwied and cwied. I bet you clutched your action figure tightly, whispering softly, "hasta... la... vista... baby" and began to sob again, caressing the plastic bulge, listening to Guns n. Roses without irony, trying hard to avoid the truth that Cameron made two good movies (Aliens and Terminator) and everything else he has made has been okay to mediocre at best.
Do you need a tisssue? A helping hand? Robodaddy still wuvs woo. He wuvs woo SO HARD. -
I dont go on any horror(shit) movies TB and make shit jokes about Hostel, I have a life, something which you rave on about and obviously do not have if your simple pleasure is trying to wind up fans of a movie, HOSTEL FUCKIN 2 man! I have nothing more to say to you, you may leave.
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for me there was one reason and one reason alone why Robocop worked.
Peter Weller and Miguel Ferrer.
Take one of those elements away and you have Peter Weller on his own trying to make Robocop 2 work....
Sure you might say Ronny Cox or Kurtwood Smith or even Nancy Allen - but theirs were ultimately secondary characters in the story (OK maybe you could twist my arm about Smith) and the casting not quite as important.
But you NEEDED Weller and Ferrer to sell this shit - and they did it WONDERFULLY. They got the satire - and they played it straight as an arrow.
Did they need Verhoven's direction - his VISION - to deliver that?
Probably.
Could someone else have delivered? Someone already mentioned Ham Tyler nearly got the lead - but I'm not sure he could have achieved the same... sense of JOURNEY that Weller brought us in his portrayal of Murphy/Robocop.
Ferrer, on the other hand, played the PERFECT modern day Dr Frankenstein. His decision to ditch the natural arm they could have saved, the bit about the baby food - delivered with just the right amount of disregard - his DEATH!
While I reserve judgement on whether Aronofski can do justice as DIRECTOR of a remake/reboot/whatever - I know he will have to do AT LEAST as good as Buckaroo Banzai and Agent Albert Rosenfield or that shit just won't fly... -
Thanks for your further thoughts, Harry. I'm not sure I agree with you though - if you're going to remake RoboCop without all of the ingredients that made the first movie special in the first place, then why call it "RoboCop"? Why not just call it something else, and give yourself some more creative freedom at the same time?
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