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Nordling And Capone’s Favorite Documentary of 2008, DEAR ZACHARY, Hits MSNBC On The First Sunday Of 2009!!
I am – Hercules!!
I’m avoiding reading reviews on “Dear Zachary,” but at least two things will compel me to tune in Sunday night:
1) The documentary pulls a 100% favorable rating among “top critics” over at Rotten Tomatoes.
2) AICN’s "Nordling" and "Capone" both picked it as the year’s best documentary over “Man On Wire.”
The trailer:
It hit cinemas just two months ago, and it arrives on MSNBC Sunday at 11 p.m. ET / 8 p.m. PT. The good news it’s on a basic cable channel to which a lot of households have access. The bad news is there’d be little chance of it being pre-empted by Gaza War coverage were it airing on IFC.
"I love love love DR. HORRIBLE’S SING-ALONG BLOG as much or more than just about anything I’ve seen this year." -- Harry Knowles
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"I love love love DR. HORRIBLE’S SING-ALONG BLOG as much or more than just about anything I’ve seen this year." -- Harry Knowles
"I love love love DR. HORRIBLE’S SING-ALONG BLOG as much or more than just about anything I’ve seen this year." -- Harry Knowles
HD Reservoir Dogs: $10.49!! (58% Off!!)
(Part of the 215-title 50% off sale!!)
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Good enough, but deeeeeeeeeeeepressing
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FORK CNBC EUROPE UP ITS STUPID ASS! They seriously stopped airing Conan O'Brien this year! They don't even show it on weekends anymore, like they did before they began to air it from monday to friday a few months ago! I need my daily dose of Conan because there isn't anything better to watch in Germany at night!(And his show makes me seriously laugh hard.)
Well, at least they still show The Tonight Show, which means that I probably get Conan back when he takes over, but I don't know, I got the sneaking suspicion that the heads of CNBC find Jay funnier than Conan and will give up on the Tonight show, as soon as Conan takes over. -
This is a rough doc to watch.
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It's been sitting on my DVR since about early last month, IIRC. Been meaning to watch it...
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Of course it was the only one I saw...
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Jan 03, 2009 5:25:11 PM CST
It's a tough watch... but unforgettable and brilliant
by andrewwankenobi
fivezero is right. It's a harsh watch but it's an amazing film. It was picked by the AFI as one of the top five documentaries this year... and chances are, it's going to be nominated for best doc as the Oscars, so catch it for free while you can.
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DerLanghaarige, you can watch all of Conan's shows, for free, through NBC's website. The quickest way is NBC.com/conan. In case you weren't aware.
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Aw fuck!
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Jan 03, 2009 6:58:06 PM CST
The bad news is there will be LITTLE real Gaza coverage
by evilwizardglick
Just same old corporate media protecting their buds.
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Isreal = Guilty
Palestinians = Guilty
EvilWizardPrick = Dumb
Don't reduce complexity. -
Seriously, if you watch this, which you should, be prepared to weep like a fucking baby. I couldn't even sleep the night I saw this, that's how much it affected me.
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It doesn't work outside of the USA and it takes too long till I find a working proxy, but thank you anyway.
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...does that mean that Zachary's dad was murdered by George W Bush? I keed. I keed.
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Especially this one:
Regardless of the situation always use birth control.
Whoever uses the birth control has the control.
You should be using birth control AND so should she. The pill is NOT the only form. There's about 12 different forms of birth control , they can't be allergic to all of them. If a girl is not on birth control, she wants to have a baby. Maybe not right away, maybe not with you, but if it happens she won't be too upset.
Do not, under any circumstances, stick it in without a condom. Even if she says she's on the pill. You don't know if she's tell the truth, or missed a dose, or simply forgot. You just don't know. Don't take her word for it and protect yourself.
If a women doesn't believe in abortion and doesn't believe in birth control that equals someone who wants to have baby.
Remember, 60 minutes of irritation is better much better then 18 years of child support.
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I hope lots of people watch it. It hits you like a sledgehammer to the chest, but it ought to be seen. Definitely not a fun film to watch, but a really powerful experience.
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too bad no one told the DVR schedule people(it still says 'to be announced) so im not able to set a recording yet.. hope i dont get too drunk and forget.
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I won't be able to catch this tonight and have heard about the "twist" the movie takes. Someone please, put up a spoiler warning and let me know. Thanks!
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The cunt goes Andrea Yates on the baby, except she was fully cognizant of her actions. In Texas, we send truly mentally ill people to jail, while in New Foundland, they send megalomaniac wenches home without supervision. Both actions are wrong.
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Fuck. What a rancid horrible bitch. Seriously. I mean, fuck. I am not looking forward to seeing this.
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Sucked. Bigger Faster Stronger much better. They skimmed over so much shit in Man On A Wire and just jumped around, I hate it when I leave a documentary with more questions then answers. Plus on a whole it just didn't seem like a documentary. Best documentary I've ever seen was Stevie. Done by the Hoop Deams guy, check it out.
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Just to correct mjgtexas. Hopefully the documentary doesn't turn folks off of the place. It's a great place to live and/or vacation too. Sadly our court system dropped the fucking ball on this one.
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There's enough sadness in the day as it is. I don't need to experience someone else's for "entertainment".
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Between this horrible bitch and the #%#$% commercial breaks, I need a Valium.
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I still have family in the Atlantic Provinces, and the anger (and cultural embarrassment) regarding this case has not subsided. The majority of Canadians think American criminals should have their asses kicked back across the border (see also: Ng, Charles), unless the crime was committed in Canada, or against a Canadian citizen. That HORRID woman should have been in an American court within days of being caught in Newfoundland.
But judging all of Newfoundland (or Canada for that matter) on the inexcusable behavior of the Newfoundland court system would be like hating NYC because some of the NYPD are violent shitheads. Newfoundlanders are good people, and this case will resonant with them long after most of you have forgotten this documentary. -
resonant = resonate. For fuck's sake Harry - get a preview feature already.
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Mattyboy up above referenced a sledgehammer to the chest, and that's pretty accurate.
In Moriarty's old review, he mentioned how he overlooked technical flaws in the film in favor of just letting the admittedly subjective story sink in, and I think that's probably the best way to handle it.
NOT a movie to watch for "entertainment" (as per Reno's comment), I would recommend this to anyone looking to be simultaneously informed and enraged and saddened - if you can handle that, or, in the case of some people whose opinions I see bounced around here, if you're actually capable of empathy and emotions as humans feel and express them. -
Despite really wanting to see the film, I purposefully didn't watch tonight because I knew it would be bogged down in commercials and I'd rather see the film straight through. Let's hope a screener or DVD rip pops up on the web somewhere.
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I thought the movie did a decent job of illustrating, via interviews with the folks in Newfoundland that the Bagbys connected with, that the community was very much aware and supportive.
I don't think anyone is hating on Newfoundlanders, or at least I'm not.
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Good call. I may very well purchase the DVD, despite having just watched it, for just that reason.
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Does anyone else know if they'll show this again? I've put it on my Netflix list, but it doesn't go on video 'till February.
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I read a few reviews linked via the DearZachary dot com website, and there's a bit of chat on various FaceBook pages this morning - as always, there's a handful of people who are using anything negative about Canada ("Those fucking Commies to the north.") as an excuse to bash the fuck out of it.
It's uncalled for, and unfair. I mean, Canadian tax dollars PAID for this nightmare to happen. Canadians are outraged! Most of you are just hearing about this case, while Shirley Turner has been on the Canadian cultural radar since 2003! This case reached the highest levels of government - it was not buried. Should another murderer decide to hide in Canada to take advantage of the legal system, Zachary's murder WILL be remembered.
What's tragic - as if anything in this case can be moreso - is Andrew's parents approached the Canadian court system the wrong way. That's not their fault - somebody should have counseled them. The dad is so headstrong regarding bail reform - and of course we can empathize why; but he should have concentrated on child welfare. NOT the fact that Shirley was allowed bail, but that the child was endangered BECAUSE OF IT. It could have moved the case to a family court - a different judge - and that could have changed everything. -
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2006/10/04/turner-report.html
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Chat with the director and someone brought up another messed up case in Canada. Wikipedia: Karla Homolka, that is some messed up shit. As for Zachary, was it me or did it seem that Newfoundland just wasn't used to something this messed up that they were just people that hoped for the best in people? Though all those accounts about how crazy she was that went overlooked was messed up.
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Re: believing that people will "do the right thing". Sadly, the thing we are most proud of - our tolerance - has a dark side. Serial killers - and Canada has had it's despicable share - have been able to function for far longer than they should have been able to, because they were given far too many chances while they were young.
There's also a type of 'reverse sexism' in play - that all women must be victims. It's what helped Shirley Turner; and it's why Karla Homolka didn't go to jail for life. As a woman - and yes, as a feminist - this is horrifying. Women may have different motivations regarding murder - but their punishment should be just as severe.
For those unfamiliar with the case - Karla Homolka was the female half of a murder/rape team. Her own SISTER was one of the victims. She served 12 years and is currently living with her son in freedom.
To bring this post somewhat back on topic for a media website...have you ever watched a Canadian series called Davinci's Inquest? The Sleuth Channel has picked it up. Many of Canada's criminal cases were a part of the show - and there's no halo over the court system's head. -
At the risk of a redundant post I just feel like I had to post something SOMEWHERE after watching this film. Without a doubt was this one of the most moving, emotional pieces of film I have ever seen. I was bleary eyed ten minutes in and absolutely balling by the end. I am glad I did not know what was coming or I may not have watched, as I have a little cherub of a daughter the same age as little Zachary and It was so devestating to see. This doc is a roller coaster of emotions down and up and would not classify it as a downer but truly a wide swath of powerful, overwhelming human emotion.
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loved Davinci's Inquest.. I think there was a show reminiscent of the case you described. that davinci guy could play a good rumsfeld.
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Jan 05, 2009 12:09:14 PM CST
I wonder why someone would want to make this....
by dannyglovers_dickblood
....it seems odd to spend that much time on such a miserable subject. Of course-- you then have to ask why anyone would make anything. But really-- cashing in on a death to get awards and shit. Its just a weird idea. Sorta like The Bridge-- just an odd way to make a name for yourself.
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The documentary was started before the "end" that takes place. It began more as a tribute video for Zachary and it wasn't originally meant for public viewing, from what I can recall. Obviously the circumstances changed and so the documentary did as well.
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The filmmaker is obviously not trying to cash in on this tragedy. Of course, I actually watched it so I know what the fuck I'm talking about and not just blithering on.
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but like vic twenty I actually watched it so you should probably shut your trap. uninformed postings are the worst.
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The documentary was made as a tribute from one best friend to another. It was only hafway through making it that things got drastically worse.
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I had already seen this so I didn't really need to check it out on MSNBC tonight, but I wanted to know how it held up on a second viewing now knowing what to expect going in. And I completely agree, the commercials kill it for me. Not just commercials but for some reason it really seems like they were running them every 5 min! Geez MSNBC, give it a rest already. Selling toothpaste while you see this tragedy unfold just seems heartless and wrong.
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Do the studios and film-makers really expect people to find and watch these movies on other cable channels other than HBO, Cinemax, etc.? I mean, I still haven't seen GOOD NIGHT AND GOOD LUCK, and the reason is its only aired once (to my knowledge) on some random night on CBS. LETTERS FROM IWO JIMA only aired on AMC. And pretty much every documentary that's gotten praise over the last five or ten years has aired on other channels on random nights. The reason why a lot of movies from the eighties and nineties are still quoted and remembered by my generation, even if those movies didn't do very well in their initial runs, is because they aired on HBO and Cinemax five of six times a week. Not because they magically appeared on some random cable station one night and then was never aired again. HBO, IFC, Sundance, get off your asses and get these films!
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MSNBC Films picked up the rights to the film awhile ago, I think, so that's why in this case.
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Just cause you're the coolest talkbacker in the world, you should be such a douche
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but there I was standing up and yelling at my TV.
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I literally got dizzy at the ... "moment". What a fucked up story. Sometimes the child-should-be-with-their-mother-at-all-costs mindset is incredibly inappropriate and bullheaded. I'm sure that's what that one judge was thinking when she let that crazy bitch out to regain custody. That and probably a little anti-American sentiment. Anyway, what a fucking brutal story.
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That was the hardest thing i've ever had to watch. I completely lost it, tears falling from my face...holy shit. Never woulda expected that Zachary died. Just utterly unforgettable that 2 people could persevere through so much grief.
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