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DOCTOR WHO?? TV Actor Matt Smith!!
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26-year-old Matt Smith, who played Danny Foster on a 2007 British TV show called "Party Animals," will take over the title role on "Doctor Who," probably on the next "Who" Christmas special.
BBC announcement here.
Smith videography here.
ORIGININAL POST:
From the U.K.'s Guardian:
Tennant's replacement will be unveiled in an edition of Doctor Who Confidential to be broadcast on BBC1 at 5.35pm on Saturday, 3 January, featuring an interview with the actor who is to be the 11th doctor in the long-running BBC1 sci fi drama, successfully revived by the corporation in 2005.
The best-known name the Guardian claims could take over the role of The Doctor is busy movie actor Chiwetel Ejiofor, the soft-spoken, self-proclaimed “monster” of “Serenity.” Ejiofor’s other credits include “Love, Actually,” “Inside Man,” “Melinda and Melinda,” “Children of Men,” “American Gangster” and “Redbelt.”
Find all of the Guardian’s story on the matter here.
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the word we all know people usually say.
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It's the Manchester Guardian.
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I think his role in Serenity proves he would be a great (and deadly) Doctor. However, I think he is too high-profile for the role, unfortunately. I hope they don't cast Patterson Joseph - he's almost as bad as James Nesbit (and just as inexplicably popular in the UK) and would be a huge disappointment after the terrific Tennant. The Guardian also mentions Ben Wishlaw as a possible Eleven, which is weird, although he would appeal to the bloodless skinny hipster audience. I dunno. I wanted Kevin McKidd (Ginger Doctor!) but actually anyone would be better than Joseph or Nesbit. ::shudders:: The idea of either taking the role makes me sick. I'll stop watching if either of them takes the part.
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but tennant only has 3hrs left according to the creator, so wouldnt the new doc be in the first few episodes of the new season?
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Change the article, make me look like I'm talking crazy :D
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doing drivel like "doctor who" would be a waste of his talent. keep him in great entertainment. this guy has quickly become one of my favorite actors, and he deserves better vehicles than "doctor who."
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and give Paul McGann the screen time he deserves. But he has to grow hi Roger Daltery hair back out
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And anyone who deems DOCTOR WHO as "drivel" seriously needs their head examined.
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I only really know him from 'Inside Man' so I looked him up. I'm afraid we'll have another Doctor who only sticks around for a season or two.
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That was a long time ago. And yes, Ejiofor would be a DREAM COME TRUE for the new Doctor.
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And for once, I can't object. We've had enough weird, young, skinny white guys for now.
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I'd like to see David Walliams as the next doctor
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I am willing to admit it. I am ignorant. I cannot pronounce this guy's name to save my life. i think he would be a great Doctor.
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That would be cool
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will be the next Doctor Who.
Matt Who?
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He has it. You know it.
And, no, he won't appear in the 2009 Xmas special - but the episode AFTER that. The next Xmas special is the penultimate remaining Tennant story.
Interesting to see Joseph being lined up for a Gaiman script again, after Neverwhere. That's the role that basically confirms how he could ace the Dr. -
http://www.betfair.com/Index.do?mi=21313290&ex=1&rfr= 3013
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So yes, the Eleventh Doctor will appear in it, just as the very end as the cliffhanger for Series Five in 2010.
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guest starring Michael Douglas as Methuselah
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Gets my vote. He and Moffat have history.
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I mean, come on now! Why would a guy who has clearly made it in Hollywood turn around to star in a BBC show?
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I'm willing to give Joseph a chance, but I really want Chiwetel Ejiofor for just one series.As for when the 11th Doctor will appear, Tennant has four more specials (all still to be filmed). It seems likely that at least 2 of these will be shown over Christmas and New Year 2009/2010. So the Christmas Day episode *could* be the penultimate Tennant episode and the regeneration would then be in the fourth special around New Year. This is pure speculation based on the strongest rumours as I last heard them.
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I thought he kicked ass.
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Patterson Joseph, Catherine Zeta jones, Lesley Sharp, Tom Chambers and there is another bloke called Russell whose last name I cant remember but Russell T davies tipped him to be the next dr. RTD said he didnt know who it was going to be. bullshit.
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C'mon he rocks! Might actually watch due to this. But only if it happens.
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I reckon I'm gonna be pleased with them. Based on the evidence that the Beeb have made two outstanding choices so far since bringing Who back. What I love most about Eccleston and Tennant is neither were on anyone's 'Guess list'. Both choices made everyone go "Oh, I never thought of them.... but they'd be good!"I'm hoping for a similar name tomorrow.Saying that if Chewy is announced I'll be fupping ecstatic. Though there's no way they could get him to commit to a 13 ep series nowadays.I'd be happy with Mooli's selection of Richard Coyle.Or, if we're throwing out names, then I'll stand by my previous idea of Mark Heap.But ideally I want to go "Oh, I never thought of them......"
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Jan 02, 2009 5:01:52 PM CST
I can't follow Dr. Who at all, and stopped trying to
by blindambition238
But if he does indeed become the new star I'll give it another shot (12th times a charm, right?).
This would be really wierd though cause I've never seen him do anything outside of serious work.
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I thought the chick from ER already met the current doctor in the future, wasn't there supposed to be a bunch of episodes with them before he switches? Unless they jump over that whole arc, which wouldn't be a bad thing.. I'm not really looking forward to see "I'd follow him to the end of the world" all over again.
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I don't know shit about Dr. Who but I know that he can only change his body so many times...
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During the last christmas special confidential show, RTD seemed to go out of his way to praise the 'best Doctor who never was' - Hugh Grant! I think RTD winked at the camera also as he said it....sleep well! But seriously, the bookies have stopped taking bets on Paterson Joseph.
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I briefly got excited when I thought that Herc knew something I didn't. The Guardian don't have a clue and are just taking names from Outpost Gallifrey. Hint that it's Ejiofor and a lot of people will be disappointed when it's not (including me).I thought it must be Paterson Joseph because he has given non-denial denials. But current fave on betfair is Matt Smith from Party Animals: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1741002/
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I think he can pull off both the serious side (watch "Serenity" for that) and the goofy side (see "Kinky Boots"). Yay Chewie!
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Don't forget Chiwetel Ejiofor was Lola in "Kinky Boots" and did his own singing.
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the first doctor who can really kick ass...
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Apparently The Doctor/River Song relationship was going to form a big part of Steven Moffatt's fifth season, but he's had to rethink things now that Tennant is leaving. The River Song storyline may still be there, but in altered form, perhaps. Anyway, River Song could very easily have known the Twelfth Doctor and not the Eleventh. Or, thinking ahead, I'm sure The Doctor will be given extra regenerations at some stage, anyway.
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My current Dr, Dr Yesufu is black, He's alright. I don't expect him to turn out white any time soon though
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Isn't he the guy who wrote "The Streak?"
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Forgive my lack of DW knowledge, but how many times can the Doctor regenerate? Is he like a cat and with "9 Lives" (I guess at least 11 in this case) or are Time Lords immortal and regenerate forever?
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My dream Doctor would be either Stephen Fry, Hugh Laurie, Chris Barrie, Richard E Grant, Richard O'Brian or in a nice twist, a returning John Simm.
Who's it more likely to be? Patterson Joseph or Russell Tovey, those seem to be the names coming up the most, I guess we'll find out tomorrow. -
no one else makes sense.
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And I'm a Black Whovian so please don't think I'm racist. He's a shitty actor with zero range. He's the idiot who refused to believe the Daleks were real until he was staring down one. I laughed, almost cheered when he was exterminated. If they cast him then it's just a stupid token gesture and he'll be a one off. The one Black Doctor they cast out of 14 just so they could pat themselves on the back and feel good about themselves at the franchises expense. He'll be terrible, The Colin Baker of this new era. All this fan wanking for him just proves that some British geeks are just as short sighted and tasteless as their American counterparts. If it's not Chiwetel Ejiofor then it should be someone who's actually talented and has gravitas like Colin Salmon. Either way, I don't need Doctor Who to be Black to feel good about myself or feel included in the franchise. This isn't the POTUS. I just want the stories to be good and for the Doctor to be played by someone actually talented.
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And The Master will be an Alaskan hoochie. Change we can believe in.
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Jimmy Nail. There I said it.
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I think it is. So that's 13 Doctors. The next will be the 11th. So they have a couple to go before they need to think up some way for him to get another 12 regenerations. I'm thinking the time lords will get brought back at some point and he borrows one of their bodies or something.
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then it's Lenny Henry.
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(I wish) or Paterson Joseph (isn't he doing another season of 'Survivors'?)as the new Doctor I just got a text saying the new Doctor is Hermione Norris. (who? - I'm probably being messed with)
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Dr. JiggaBoo
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Go eat a bag of dicks.
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I didn't realize that was Joseph in 'Bad Wolf' - I was thinking about his work in 'Neverwhere' - I may have to rethink my support for him as the Doctor (like my support matters).
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"Either way, I don't need Doctor Who to be Black to feel good about myself or feel included in the franchise. This isn't the POTUS. I just want the stories to be good and for the Doctor to be played by someone actually talented."
So say we all! Nothing wrong with shaking up the format - a black or female Doctor would be a nice twist on the format, but it HAS TO BE the BEST actor for the part - but after watching JONATHAN CREEK: THE GRINNING MAN the other night, I'd like to see the series go all Tom Baker Jr and cast Alan Davies. And Frankie Boyle for The Master. Again.
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Are Doctor Who and Samantha Who related?
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Actually, I wouldn't hate Lenny Henry as The Doctor - could be some int3eresting left-field casting, and he can act, so... why not?
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Thanks man! I knew they were getting up there...
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But how will it explain River Song's comments?
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I really enjoyed your Cracked article on FOX and look forward to more dick-consumption burns in the future!
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Mr. Who, black people can't become doctors!
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Not that I have anything against the guy, the opposite in fact. It's just that to me he is Johnson from Peep Show and I wouldn't be able to watch Doctor Who without thinking of his carrot made of stick :D
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Too bad it'll never happen/
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Or something totally unexpected, like a former Who extra who was really a future incarnation all along. It would be fun to find out that a former supporting character is really the timelord, or even a Villain (with the reasons for his or her actions being explained).
I liked the idea of the Doctor meeting a future version in the Xmas special (even though it wasn't) and I hope they do something similar in the upcoming specials. With the successor looking in the mirror and saying "I Know You!"
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They already had Tom Baker Jr. His name was Christopher Eccleston and he was fantastic! I hope he comes back one day. He'd be a total bint not to. I mean he played Doctor Lazer Rage on the Sara Silverman program but somehow he's too good to come back to Doctor Who!?!
They could easily bring him back for a crossover and not have to worry about bringing Billy back too. At the end of 'Rose' he could have gone off and had literally years of adventures between the time the Tardis dematerializes and rematerialized "did I mention it travels through time?"
Come back Chris! Russell's Gone! So you don't have to worry about him trying to make you toss Captain Jack's salad. -
Shame as "black dude from serenity" would be fucking awesome, not a bad choice as also Richard Coyle would be.
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Colin Salmon (I know him and can work in a set visit..)
or James Nesbitt...I watched 10 mins of Jekyll and thought 'He;d be an awesome Doctor!'.. Ejofor is a good choice too...loved him in Serenity..
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as the next James Bond :)
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I know she mentioned that the Doctor she knew was older, but she never specifically stated it was an older version of Tennant... she knew about Rose and a lot of other things, she may have known about his tendency to regenerate.
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No matter who they announce.
I'm going to get excited and then it will be someone shit.
In my humble opinion, the best name that was seriously mentioned (for like, two seconds) was Aiden whatsisface, Tommy Carcetti from The Wire.
He's handsome enough for the new audience, relatively unknown so the commitment wouldn't be a problem and a good enough actor to handle the weird lurches between drama and comedy that the new series' do seem to love.
Instead of that Patterson Joseph from Peep Show they should go for the infinitely better David Mitchell, I'd love to see him squaring up to The Master.
And as for Nesbitt, the only good thing about him was the unintended comedy in Match Point of him and Ewen Bremner as Northern Irish and Scottish police in London sitting around trying to make Woody Allen's NY intellectual dialogue sound remotely plausible "Yes, I'm torn..." Yeah that's how the cops here talk Woodster.
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Is the Doctor, I shall be most displeased
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Maybe I'll start watching this show.
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Ejiofor would be great also, but Paterson Joseph is less well known and wouldn't have as much baggage. And I want Ejiofor to keep doing offbeat things like Lola in "Kinky Boots."
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...I will faint dead away. He would be so great as Eleven! As would his Rome compatriot Kevin McKidd. Or Richard Armitage. Or Idris Elba. Or Ejiofor (although I haven't a hope of that happening. But if it's Joseph or Nesbit, this series is DEAD to me. Why do the Brits love these scenery-chewing hacks so much?!
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SpudMcSpud said "I wouldn't hate Lenny Henry as The Doctor"This will never be forgotten C.E was on Richard & Judy after Serenity came out and he called it sci-fi nonsense, is he really going to want to play The Doctor?
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For a UK TV writer to turn down Spielberg and Jackson's TINTIN trilogy specifically to helm this AND to get the chance to re-cast the lead actor; do't think for a second that it'll be a half-assed choice. Whoever is coming (see what I did there?), there'll be both direction and purpose to it. Make no mistake, WHO isn't some geeky niche market material; right now this is the UK's number one non-soap drama, and the biggest role in UK television. No pressure then...
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unlikely.
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...i really wouldn't expect, that BBC will kill it's cash cow, because of some rule created back in 1976.
The BBC's Series 4 FAQ suggests that now the Time Lord social order has been destroyed, the Doctor may be able to circumvent the limit on regenerations; it says: "Now that his people are gone, who knows? Time Lords used to have 13 lives."
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http://is.gd/es5k
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There were rumours a while ago that David Knijnenburg was secretly flown in from Oz to meet the Who production crew...it would be a massively outside choice....
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I think David Morrissey would have been perfect. Even his costume was good. the tie and reeboks are getting stale.
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coz he's already been in Who as another character. I think its likely to be someone Moffat has worked with before - after all RTD had worked on series with both Eccleston and Tennant before he cast them as the Doctor. So for me that makes Richard Coyle, Jack Davenport and Matt Smith (who apparently has worked with Moffat??)
I have no problem with a black Doctor, but think that would be the only reason to cast Patterson Joseph. Just don't think he's a strong enough actor. Ejiofor would be brilliant but think he's happy doing films. So how about Irdis Elba? Doctor Stringer Bell....sweet. -
So? Colin Baker was in an episode of Doctor Who before he got cast as the Doctor.
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It wouldn't in any way be disappointing. He was great in Survivors, which was better than it should have been.
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After seeing him in Dirty Pretty Things, I have complete confidence that he would capture the essence and quirks of the Doctor, jelly baby and all.
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You can hold me to that. Tell me you don't think Lenny Henry would make a fun choice for the 11th Doc! And he can do serious too...
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Anyone else think she'd be great in the role?
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Jan 02, 2009 7:35:26 PM CST
"British geeks are just as short sighted and tasteless..."
by kurutteru yatsu
"...as their American counterparts," he posted. On the American geek website he must visit fairly often if he went so far as to make an account for it. Fuck you, pal.
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Does that make the name of the show Doctor Was'sup? hey hear they're casting Daniel Craig as Kunta Kinte and Jacky Chan as the 2009 version of the incredible hulk revisited, reborn and regurtitated. Ballocks, dr who is white, Kunta Kinte is black and the hulk is green and crap
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I've seen his name in print countless times but never heard it spoken. Interesting choice if true.
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I said "some" not all. And I'm American so don't think I'm some brit ripping on "stupid yanks". Some geeks are short sighted and tasteless. The people who wanted Crispin Glover to be the Joker because he's weird and skinny. The people who to this day still think Lucy Lawless should play Wonder Woman just because of Xena. That's what I'm talking about and that's how I group the people jizzing over Patterson Joseph simply because he's Black and he's on another sci-fi fantasy show.
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I'm with you. She can do anything. And I'm FOR stirring the whole thing up to make it fresh and surprising.
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You pronounce it:
Chew-E-Tell Edge-E-Oh-For -
YOu heard it hear first!!
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I think the Doctor should stay caucasin. The Doctor is our hero, and by "our" I mean pasty, pale-as-the-driven-snow, skinny dweebsticks. Would you cast Rowan Atkinson as Dolemite or Hugh Laurie and Richard Grant as the leads in Bad Boys III? Uh uh. With the rumors of James Bond going black and Will Smith or The Rock being casted as Superman, which whiteys will we waxen wimps be able to idolize as our pretend heroes? I mean really, Doctor Who is kind of an imperialist white man's show. I can't for the life of me remember a Who fan of African descent and the only cool black character I can remember from the original show was the one that spoke the subject line quote to this post and he was D84 - an art deco robot.
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and if I can't have that I hope it's a woman. Would love to see a companion that isn't a love interest for once, and that would certainly make it less likely.
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the Doctor has nothing to do with being pasty or white, nor is it anything like casting a white guy as a lead for Bad Boys.
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KnightShift is right. As far as the Patterson Joseph hate, mine comes from Jekyll. I remember really enjoying that show except when he came on screen (and the final episode which really fell apart). His performance in that was AWFUL.
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Yeah...Gaius "Fraking" Baltar. I know I know, seems strange when you first see the name but think about it...he's British, fairly young, or at least young enough to fit in with the latest incarnation of the show, he has great comic timing (if you ever see him at the Cons, he's actually pretty funny) and has finished Battlestar Galactica so I assume he is unemployed.
In fact, while Who is one of the biggest shows in Britain, it's still fairly niche in the US and Callis could be enough to bring BSG fans over to watching Who.
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She should only ever be a villain if shes in Who. She's not charismatic at all, and that's the Doctor's primary function.
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I think his sex appeal would blow the TARDIS up, tbh. Too risky!
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a dab of color won't hurt his image...'cause he's the Doctor! So Chiwetel Ejiofor...for the win!
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He's great in Jonathon Creek and can do eccentric in his sleep.
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They'll get a decent enough actor (because the show is big enough to warrant it). The main thing is that Moffat is going to be writing for it - so forget the RTD season finale letdowns and prepare yourself for some well written Who!
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My post was in jest. Somewhat. If an actor who isn't a pasty white guy can bring some balls and sorely lacking brains back into Doctor Who, I'm all for it. But if you could jump off your politically correct cliff for a mo' and actually elaborate why "the Doctor has nothing to do with being pasty or white" since the dozen plus actors who've assumed the role over the decades have been just that and "nor is it anything like casting a white guy as a lead for Bad Boys". Ummmmm, yeah it would.
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Plus Nesbitt is waaaay unattractive. Neither has the personal magnetism OR the acting chops to succeed Eccleston or Tennant. It would be analogous to...well, choosing an actor like Marc Blucas as Buffy's hero and love interest instead of, say, James Marsters. Or, similarly, going with an actor like Teddy Dunn as Veronica Mars's hero and romantic interest, and not, say, FRICKIN' JASON DOHRING. Yes, I still have issues with these shows - why do you ask?
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I think if Paterson Joseph is the next Doctor (very likely, and he WOULD be a good choice) Chiwetel would make a great Master opposite him. Somehow it would just feel right for The Master to regenerate into a black guy if the Doctor was now black. There's no way Chiwetel is the Doctor anyway. He would have to sacrifice his ever-growing movie career to do it. Who knows, Doctor Who may be a role he desperately wants to do. Paterson Joseph IMO fits the role very well. If you see him in Neverwhere you can understand how he would play the Doctor. He would bring some mystery back to the character, which is something that Steven Moffat (the new showrunner as of mid-2009) enjoys doing also in his scripts. Paterson also appeared in a past Moffat show, Jekyll, so that's another plus point for him. I can't see it being anyone else tbh.
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a woman would be a great idea. As a sometimes/casual viewer, I'd definitely watch. You know, as long as it isn't Jennifer Saunders or someone like that.
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I'm not being sexist in that statement, it's just a personal preference for a male Doctor. I've been a Who fan since the eighties and I believe casting a woman would be a change too far. The Doctor has always been a male and, as a man myself, it's helped me identify with the character. It would be like Smallville getting rid of Superman and replacing him with Supergirl. Some things don't need to change in my opinion.
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Is he working at the moment? He's been in Torchwood and so he's obviously known to the people behind the scenes...
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that would imply that I saw colour as an issue. I do not, which is why I took except to your absurd comment. The Doctor is a half-human alien who is eccentric, energetic charismatic and very, very old and mysterious. There is nothing there that suggest he should be any particular (human) race at all.
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Jan 02, 2009 8:31:02 PM CST
in fact, the ONLY reason I can think of for him to stay white..
by lemming
would be to make his life a little easier when travelling through time on earth, which is where he likes to travel more than anywhere else. But then, that doesn't matter unless they actually address people's reactions through history towards colour.
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...Robert Carlyle was supposedly one of the front-runners? Yeah. Good times. That said, Richard Coyle would be an insane, yet awesome, choice for the 11th Doctor, particularly given his past working history with Moffat.
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Paul McGillion, as the new doctor. I know his character was a bit timid on Stargate: Atlantis, but I think he'd do a fine job as The Doctor.
Also if we were to consider a woman as an incarnation of The Doctor, I think Sarah Alexander would make a fine choice. She's lovely, and can do both comedy and drama well. What I want to know is where's our Doctor's Daughter spin-off damn it! Genny was HOT! and she's not on Code-9 anymore. -
...they should do that final Paul McGann regeneration-story, like, pronto, while he's still able to take on the role. Or at least do a frigging "Time War" novel series, for crying out loud. SOMETHING to finally give us some closure on that storyline.
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Get it? Punctuation humor. Babe is like 5'10.5"! (Ooo, I've been waiting to use this one - sure didn't think it'd be in a Dr. Who article.)
There are Time Ladies, though, you know. Romana? It'd certainly be cool to have another Time Lady companion. But I've never heard of a Time Lord/Lady regenerating into a different gender. Would that be transregenderation?
I'm totally ready for a different skin tone, though. Maybe it would help to see Gallifrey again, eh, to confirm the existence of different skin colors among their people? Hmm? (F'in Time War, grumble grumble...) -
"The Doctor is a half-human alien who is eccentric, energetic charismatic and very, very old and mysterious. There is nothing there that suggest he should be any particular (human) race at all."
You mean, apart from the fact that every previous incarnation has been male and white, and of an obviously human appearance?
Casting black or female WILL require some explanation, if only to explain how if the Doctor ISN'T only limited to being white and male, he HAS BEEN for EVERY INCARNATION of his existence!
The Doctor should have SOME continuity in his character - so if he isn't white or malke in his next incarnation, we need at least SOME technobabble to explain why. Any less than this would expose this for the token PC box-ticking exercise that I secretly fear it is (especialy if Paterson Joseph gets the role despite his extremely limited acting ability). It's not racist or sexist to wonder why a supposedly near-immortal character that has been male and white for ten of his allotted thirteen incarnations would suddenly change sex or colour - it's whether or not a writer can give a good enough reason for said change. And yes, it IS EXACTLY like imagining that BAD BOYS II were remade with Fry and Laurie or those Peep Show boys or any other Caucasian duo in the lead - you'd wonder why, and you'd be right to do so.
Characterisation and continuity and absolute devotion to writing the very best stories they can for Doctor Who should ALWAYS be considered far above any issues involving colour-blind casting, casting to fit ethnic / gender-based / sexually-oriented quotas and other assorted PC nonsense - because it is a TV SHOW FIRST!!! -
I agree...but come on...a Fry and Laurie version of Bad Boys would be awesome :P
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Jan 02, 2009 9:05:37 PM CST
giving the role to Chiwetel Ejiofor will set back race relations
by smackfu
because he has zero charisma, and it will be a big news thing because it's the first black Doctor, except this guy is boring as shit and the ratings will plummet, and black people will notice that all the white people stopped watching Doctor Who when the role was taken over by a black man, and they'll be like 'you're racist' and we'll be like 'hey, it's not like that, this guy's boring as shit and doesn't fit the role' and then Obama will be like 'holy Christ BBC you are fucking up my shit'
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As always, your fu is strongest. We have to agree to disagree on Chi's charisma (he's fucking AWESOME in SERENITY as The Operative - "Somebody FIRE!")but as for all the rest, including fucking up Obama's shit, I have to bow to. Baracka wins! Flawless victory.
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House and Kingdom in BAD BOYS III? Hell yeah you'd better believe it!
Shame this didn't occur to Pegg and Frost when they made HOT FUZZ... because watching two lower-middle-class lovable white suburbanite slackers fighting zombies was every kind of AWESOME, but two lower-middle-class lovable white suburbanite slackers being Bad Boys? In a merket town? Every kind of AWFUL, I'm afraid.
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...unless their exclusive output consists solely of blue-rinse pubic wigs, anyway.
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you need to do it right and get Cornel West. That cat IS Doctor Who.
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The question is how realistic will his travels to the past be portrayed? Martha had to be a maid in 1913 during the third season, but rosita was running around in Victorian times without anyone batting an eye. It will be doubly strange if he has a white companion of either gender.
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I thought the Time Lords imposed the 12 regneration limit upon themselves as a way of keeping them in check or something. As this Dr is the last of them all there really is nothing stopping him from adandoning that limit and continue on for as long as he pleases to do so. I think people get a little bent out of shape over the whole how/why/what will happen once he gets to the 12th but really there need not be some outrageous *fix all* just that rather than stop he choose to go on as he can and most likely will do.
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He was in the Matrix trilogy.
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Why not an old fat Doctor?
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Why not? He'd be perfect and he has worked with Moffat.
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..if this is true.
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His tv show in America has been cancelled and I'm sure he's in the UK doing stand up at the moment. Get him in there, Moff!
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Carrot Top! Then 5 minutes later (after whoever his companion is at the times beats him to death) we'll get #12!
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She's plenty charming for my tastes. Jane Horrocks too.
I don't understand the hate for Jospeh and Nesbitt. I thought Nesbitt was HAWESOME in Jekyll...wish the series was a s good as its first 2 episodes. It kinda shot its wad early. -
Hey, I am all for Dr. Who becoming black, but the next hot, white-girl he picks to be his "companion" in the Tardis had better hold on to her pussy...
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One of the points of the mythos is that the Doctor changes what he looks like. Other examples of changing the race or gender are recasts or remakes that aren't exlained within the stoyr. The Doctor changing is explained. As far as never having been any color but white before indicating that he can only be white, well Romana "tried on" a body of a blue woman in Destiny of the Daleks which indicates that Time Lords aren't bound to staying just one color.
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Serious, this guy was great in Talk to me, as long as he doesn't have to fake age.
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high five
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"I'm gonna reverse the polarity of the neutron flow, brotha!"
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GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK, JAMES CALLIS? JAMES MARSTERS? FUCK OFF PEOPLE.
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Billy Bob Thornton
The *Cletus* Doctor -
so he can boink a white chick
After all you can't have a white guy boink a black chick
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Holy shit...can you imagine how cool The Cat from Red Dwarf would be? Shit, the wardrobe alone would make it worth tuning in.
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I've heard about it since I was a kid but never saw anything about it on tv. I guess it's not popular enough to put on network television here in America. Shit, all the other crap we get does, however....
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As much as I love Who, it would be a demotion from his movie career, which is red hot - he'll be up for Oscars, soon. Can't wait for Moffat to take over, though. Tennant picked an awful time to leave. This show varies more in quality from writer to writer than any I can think of, short of an anthology series. The highs are as high as ANYTHING on television, but the lows are very amateurish, rescued often only by the actors. I hope they choose well.
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Because then I'd have to start watching and I hate Dr. Who.
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Would be perfect. So it of course won't be him. What about David Thewlis? Would love to see Rowan Atkinson doing it straightish... he was great in the comic version. Or Jonathan Pryce for that matter. What happened to Moffat saying he wanted an older, odd Doctor? Is 40 supposed to be old???
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The Doctor needs to be a crotchety old guy again. And get his fucking face in the title sequence again moffatt. And change the fucking tarids to look less like shit.
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Apparently you've never watched PBS. Doctor Who was practically a staple of the Public Broadcasting System from 1978 to the early 90s. Either that, or you're so young that you simply missed out.
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nuff said
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Is it just me, or does the current version of the Tardis interior seem really cold and uncomfortable? I imagine it being really chilly with no comfortable place to sit. Tom Baker had a much more comfy looking Tardis, where I imagine he spent many a night kicking back with a spliff and gently making love to Romana.
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why not? Vinnie Jones could play the Master
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Hmmm that SNL skit about the creepy lovers in the hot tub comes to mind. If anything they sat around and discussed the secrets of the universe whilst the Doctor played with his yo-yo. He never seemed too interested in making that TARDIS a rockin'.
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Guy's young enough to carry off the action parts, and anyone who's watched anything of Galactica would know he's got the acting chops too. Plus he's a Brit and he's unemployed.
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Just putting one last vote (given that I accept that Daniel Craig's going to be Bond for at least a couple more films). Although I'm quite taken with the idea of David Walliams.
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Gets my vote.
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Jan 03, 2009 3:58:46 AM CST
If he can bring the same intensity he brought to Serenity...
by alucardvsdracula
Then Chiwetel Ejiofor would be an amazing Doctor. Can't think of a better choice right now. Yep a Fine, Fine choice if you ask me. But let's just see shall we, 'cause you never know.
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I remember him from Serenity, but everytime someone tells me that he was also in THIS and THAT movie, I seriously can't remember him. Sorry, he might be a great actor, maybe it's just the roles he played so far.
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Interesting idea. MCP!!! The LOBE!(oh helllooooo Lobey yes hellooooo lobey! I guess you had to be there) Jack the Ripper!! The Doctor seems like the next best thing for him. He's done it all. But could he reign in the sinister? Can he be playful and curious? Hmm. It'd be a fine experiment. The man IS getting up there in years though.
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Maybe proof that he's perfect?
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No it will not be.
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he's got a great movie career? Be amazing if he did though (his turn in Dirty Pretty Things was up there with some of DeNiro's best, understated work). If the show weren't chasing teeny viewers then Michael Gambon would have been great - he's got the perfect mischievous, other worldly quality. If it's a woman, then Helena Bonham-Cater gets my vote (between Merchent-Ivory and Fightclub she has great range and eccentricity. Does anyone ever bother reading these talkbacks after the first dozen?
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He even has the right initials for the part!!
I just hope it's not a black actor, because Doctor Who is supposed to be adventures in time and space and I just know the politically correct BBC will not be able to resist doing stories about racism with all the subtlety and appropriateness of a large penis shaped hammer. Doctor Who should remain a light hearted sci-fi adventure show, not an adult drama trying to be all clever and progressive by dealing with "issues". They did it right with Martha Jones, but who knows if Moffat will be able to resist with an ego the size of his? -
'Desmond' because he's time-travelled on Lost, and you want him to play the same character... and Callis for the same reason. Stephen Fry would be genius.
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ala William Hartnell. But it won't be. I'd love Richard E Grant personally, but I think it's either Paterson Jospeh or CheiweBakka Ejiofor.
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Jan 03, 2009 5:59:19 AM CST
"Pick vaguely British actors we saw on crap American shows!"
by reflecto
Brilliant logic, that.
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In 'The Five Doctors' the High Council of Gallifrey offered The Master a new set of regenerations, a complete new life cycle in exchange for rescuing The Doctor. So when it comes time for the 13th Doctor to regenerate it won't be a problem at all. And yes, this may well be the geekiest thing i've ever posted on here.
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Patterson was already in one of the previous episodes of Doctor Who (The one with the Big Brother house and The Weakest Link IIRC) and he wasn't particularly good, and I was glad he got exterminated!
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Jan 03, 2009 7:09:25 AM CST
To: Clavius--The Pronunciation Of Ejiofor (Edge-Jew-For)
by media messiah
The guy is a genius actor, and an incredibly old soul. You should see Serenity, that is his statement movie...he stole the film!!! He should be a James Bond or Batman villain also. If I was Ejiofer, and I was going to accept this role, they would have to at least up the budget for Dr. Who to be on par with American series television. With Red One Digital Cameras, and a serious infusion of cash, about 1.5 million per episode, they could finally make Dr. Who, not only a hit elsewhere in the world, but a hit in America for once.
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Doctor Who is meant to have slightly camp effects. And it won't be a hit in America because we like the quirk factor we have - it's a definably British show, and all the better for it.
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...and me as the next Companion. Just for my own selfish naughty Tori-loving reasons.
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I love the British...and I love the British look, yes, but I see all these American shows that, thanks to their budgets, look like movies now--and some are shows that don't even deserve to look that good, as their scripts and direction are not on par with the look, often times. I would just like to see what Dr. Who could be like with a higher budget. I think ultimately the "quirk factor" is in its stories and delivery...and that will not change.
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I'm not sure it'd be better with a higher budget. Maybe they'd be able to do more shooting outside of Cardiff, but at this stage that's part of the charm. Did you watch the X-Mas special, at any rate? I wasn't a huge fan, but the shot of the 'Cyber King' was (while goofy CGI wise) rather epic.
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After all, most of the doctors in England are of Indian decent anyway. :)
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kwisatzhaderach you are correct, and you have a great user name! I have personally JUST finished watching every episode of Doctor Who in existence, including the 66 lost serials that painstakingly (and painful to watch) reconstructioned using production stills and audio cassettes made by uber fans in the 60's. This is a vailid way to get around the 13 regenerations. Personally however I think this has ALREADY happened. When we "first meet" the Doctor in 2005 he is freshly regenerated (as evidenced by the way in which he admires his new face in the mirror) so that means he recently died...probably during the destruction of Gaillfrey in the "time wars"...an event or saga that I had HOPED would be ellaborated on during the season finale of the same name, but alas no...My personal Theory is that at some point during the Time Wars, either the High Council granted him a renewal, or, being the former President of Gallifrey(as seen in The Deadly Assassin WAY back in season 14 with Tom Baker), and having already held the Key of Rassilon he was able to access the Eye of Harmony (which according to the 8th Doctor movie is now onboard the Tardis) and grant himself a renewal. Of course it is also possible that when he received the Key he was also given a renewal without realizing it. In any event, I hypothesize that at the VERY LEAST this could be his 6th regeneration of a new set (assuming the counter was reset back in season 14), and at the VERY BEST this could be his 3rd (4th?? Does the regeneration in the season finale count or not? discuss) regeneration having been freshly reset near the end of the Time War. Thus kwisatzhaderach You may now feel like less of a geek as I believe my inimical knowledge of all things Doctor Who has indeed made your post look startlingly less geeky.
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*Doctor touches face, looks at hands and then peeks down his trousers*DOCTOR: "Well, that's a nice surprise!"
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Either this TalkBack or a new one explodes with people shouting "Noooooooooo!" because you know 70% of us won't be happy with whoever gets chosen.
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This would be great if Ejiofor got the part as he is a great actor who can obviously trancend the race debacle.I can give two shits about the whinners who complian of a black man taking "white" roles as it's not an issue of affirmative action casting, but quality.No one objected to Jake Gylenhaal as the Prince of Persia, riight?However I second the idea of Jason Issacs for Dr. Who as well.It was breifly suggested that Colin Salmon would be cast as the new James Bond before Danny Craig, and yes I supported that idea as well.Salmon has great potentual as an actor and I hope he gets a breakthough part that would put him into the spotlight.
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? Go back to the old-man first doctor, even recreate swinging London in 1963? Why has no one thought of this? It's not like continuity has ever really been Who's strong point anyway.
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He was my first choice way back to play the Joker,but i also think he would make a Fantastic Dr Who,perfect infact.He's a very underused actoe imo.
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He was my first choice way back to play the Joker,but i also think he would make a Fantastic Dr Who,perfect infact.He's a very underused actor imo.
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Now that would be a treat.
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I say again.
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"Why don't they just reboot the whole show?"
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As if it wasn't
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That whole fucking Christmas special was a salute to previous doctors via the device of Steampunk. The Steampunk Cyber men looked more like their earlier incarnations than the most recent.
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http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1741002/
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11 People I'd support as the new Doctor:Matt King (Super Hans from Peep Show)Richard E. GrantChiwetel Ejofor
Adewale Akinnuoye-AgbajeDavid WarnerRutger HauerChristopher Lee (yeah I know how old he is, and that it'd never happen, still...)Malcolm McDowellTerence StampAdrian LesterPhilip GlenisterMy Da, who got me into the original Dr Who back in the day, reckons it'll be either Simon Pegg or Helen Mirren, but he'd like to see Bob Hoskins personally. Must admit, that'd be okay too. It's a shame they'll likely cast young again, love to see an older Doctor again. Also wouldn't be against giving Paul McGann another shot. If it is Paterson Joseph I just hope he gives a better performance than he did in Jekyll, he really was awful in that. Liked him in Peep Show though. -
The most important thing is they cast someone with genuine personality and presence, that's what The Doctor needs above anything else. They do that and I'll follow regardless of who it is.
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Don't everyone yell at me, but people aren't ready for a black Doctor any more than they're ready for a female Doctor (though Joanna Lumley was terrific in "The Curse of Fatal Death").
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Storywise it'll put him at a disadvantage. In all his previous incarnations he's been white (simply because it was unheard of to cast a black guy in a leading TV role during the early 60's and follow up stories have stubbornly stuck to the rule) and so historically he's easy to fit in. Future stories are fine, we all dream of a time when the colour of your skin isn't remarked on as being "different" but the moment the TARDIS materialises in the past, he's going to lose a little something, no longer can he simply waltz into an adventure and claim he's a "scientist, a doctor, a magician" from looking at our own history the Doctor will have to behave in a more subdued manner or just be relegated to the role of a servant. Personally I think it's an outstanding move that takes Doctor Who away from the "see? everyone is gay so it's okay whahey" farce into a more racially conscious drama. They touched on it briefly with Martha being laughed at and dismissed for being a black doctor, if they go the route we're all thinking they will, Moffat can open a few people's eyes to how idiotic we used to be (and dare I say it, a few people are still stuck in that belief). Onwards and upwards, bring on #11.
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a black time lord?
Just because humans have people of color doesn't mean Gallifreyans evolved along the same lines.
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He emailed a couple of times. Their. As for a woman dr. His suggestion is TILDA SWINTON.
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I outgrew this show around the time Colin Baker's Doctor made it to PBS. I was just wondering from the standpoint of sidestepping the whole "how many reincarnations does he have left" business. Just restart the clock at one and go for it.
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I have just thought of someone else and we havent seen her in a while. Jane Horrocks. but I think Swinton would make a great dr. She has already done a major film. lion witch and the wardrobe. Swinton has this androgenous thing going on. Which would make her perfect for the role.
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He'd be a great Doctor, but I think the schedule and pressure would be too much for him.
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yes please
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Jan 03, 2009 9:12:46 AM CST
Dr. Who has to be a white male or any time travel story...
by leafar the lost
...he ends up in has to be changed around. A black man would be seen as a servant/slave. A white woman who have to be accompanied by a male. Of course, if he went to ancient Egypt it may be a different story. Anyway, lets keep him white, male, and British.
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they also didn't show any black vulcans until tuvok. that's really a meaningless argument. also, who gives a damn?
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I was going to suggest Dominic Monaghan or Mackenzie Crook. but one name that did pop into my head there was Martin Stephenson. Tim from the office.
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..if they change gender or race this far down the line, I am out.
The speculation on making the doctor a woman or black everytime there is a regeneration p*sses me off - if that was the original intention, they should have done it earlier on, like at the 3rd or 4th regeneration - it would just jar too much now we are at the other end of the regenerations. -
dr who is white and british. That's the end of it. Doesn't even make any sense in terms of the stories it tells if the Dr is black. How's he going to get anywhere prior to the late 19th century at the earliest. Soon as he steps out the tardis a gang of white men would chain him up and sell him or lynch him for wearing smart clothes, let alone when they see a white female companion. It's a stupid politically correct idea.
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Google it.
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A good choice WOULD HAVE been Hugh Laurie. This role needs an actor who can do several kinds of comedy and also be dramatic in a believable way. Cris was a touch too grim, David a tuch too slapstick. Best alternate...Bill Nighy
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Uh...he'll get lynched. This is a clever cunning fellow whose outsmarted Daleks, Cybermen, Sonatorans, The Master, The Rani, The Last of the Jagoroth and countless others. I think he can handle himself around a bunch of racist nimrods in any century. The Doctor is always landing The Tardis in situations where as soon as he walks out it's doors there's a gun being pointed at him. That's the danger of leaving the Tardis that goes all the way back to An Unearthly Child. The Doctor is perfectly capable of working his way around the race thing in any century. This is the kind of short sighted geekism I keep talking about.
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Spaced, Green Wing. Guy has talent.
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Who is it?
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Jan 03, 2009 10:23:40 AM CST
Richard E. Grant, Mark Heap, Matt Berry or Patrick Stewart...
by workshed
Ken Stott would be the best but he doesn't stand a chance. I, personally, would like to see an older Doctor in the Hartnell/Pertwee mould.
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but I am young enough to remember a show called Erasmus Microman. I refer to the utterly barkingly mad genius that is ken campbell. He died in august of this year.
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We will know in an hour (5.35 GMT)
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Ejiofor is waaaay to good for a B television series. No way in hell would he take this role. That's like saying Don Cheadle will be the new robot in a Small Wonder re-boot.
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matt smith.
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He founded the Sci-fi theatre in liverpool, was artisic director of Everyman theatre and was professor of ventriliquism From 1999-2008. untill his death. I have heard rumours that Stewart was going to be involved in Dr. who as the meddling monk. about Ken campbell....Auditioned in 1987 for the role of the Seventh Doctor in Doctor Who, but was turned down, apparently due to his audition performance being considered too disturbing for television.
And we got slyvester McCoy!?!
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Paterson "I can't act" Joseph, as they seem to have a habit of re- casting folk who have previously been on the show (Colin Baker, Freema, Eve Myles..)
I want Sean Pertwee for the doc, but it'll be someone pish.
Oh, I was one of the many who sent the bbc article to Herc.. I'll get published on here one day!
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Yes, because the Doctor can only travel back to European or North American countries. (Yes of course because of budgetary reasons the likelyhood of doing a storyline is filmed in Africa or Asia isn't very high but to argue "OMG a black guy travelling back in time will get lynched!" is a very narrow view of history.)
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who it is in 35 mins. As it is nearly 5 in the uk/ireland.
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The Doctor is not white. He's a british character, not a white british character. And you don't need to go to pre-20th century england for every time travel story, and even if you did that wouldn't change anything. The american election this year taught us that when things get really fucked up even racists and bigots don't care who's saving the day. A black doctor would have the advantage of saving the world.
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candidate. Richard O brien. or it could be Anthony Stewart Head. Richard O brien. could be a bonkers dr who. or James Marsters. I have no idea.
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They hinted that The Master was actually Ghengis Kahn in one of his previous incarnations in the TV movie when he was lying to the Chinese kid about everything horrible the Doctor had done in history when really he was talking about himself. Now there's a well RTD was too stupid to go to. There are 11 earlier versions of The Master we've never seen who could be great villains if they ever decide to bring the character back. Since he was such a maniac who supposedly burned through a few of them you could have him regenerate 3 times in one story kind of like Wylie Coyote to The Doctor's road runner.
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damn arbitrary temporal delineations...
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"The american election this year taught us that when things get really fucked up even racists and bigots don't care who's saving the day."
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Jan 03, 2009 11:06:02 AM CST
Dr. Kinky Boots? Really? I was hoping for David Beckham!
by snake foreskin
Or Sean Connery, George Lazenby, Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton, or Pierce Brosnan.
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Posted this before, but my blood is up tonight:
One thing that gets on my tits more than hopelessly unrealistic revisionist portrayals of racial har-mo-nee in historic settings is bolshy, white-man-as-victim pig-headed ignorance which seems to reckon that non-white history in the Britain began in the 1950s, that you can extrapolate current US/UK racism backwards in a straight line, or that being black meant you got treated much worse by those in authority than if you were Irish or Jewish or Catholic or a woman or simply poor or dressed funny. London was centre of the world's largest empire for centuries, a power based on naval and trading strength, with a good dose of slave trading mixed in. By the mid 18th Century, London had 700-800,000 people, of whom 20-40,000 were black. http://tinyurl.com/9kpphw http://tinyurl.com/9zo9t7 Population spiked again in mid-19th century when slavery was abolished in Britain, but still held in the US. You'd be a lot more likely to be abusive a white man with sticky-up hair in a 20th century lounge suit and raincoat than black person in period dress, particularly round the docks or slums. Don't base your knowledge of how ye olde time really were on "whitewashed" films from the 30s, 40s and 50s. They knew a damn sight less about it than we do now, and were in no ways inclined to make an effort to represent what they could have found out. It'd be like someone from 2050 complaining that a film about Texans in the 80s didn't match the portrayal in "Dallas". -
now let's make him gay and all the demo's are covered! White people watch all sci-fi anyway.
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So Peggy is doing the narration for this reveal is he....could this be a typical Davies twist...and the new Doctor is....ME!!!
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Bishops love Sci-fi !!!
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Is it???????
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SIMON Pegg has ruled out playing the next Doctor Who – he just wants to watch it.
The Hot Fuzz star, 37, who played the Editor in a 2005 episode, said: “I’m too much of a fan to actually play the Doctor.
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who is taking over. It would not be a huge leap to suggest Dexter Fletcher. After all He nad moffat worked together on press gang over twenty years ago. He did a ver very passable american accent. I actually thought he was american. he is an east end boy.
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We all know in a few mins. but Chiwetel Elijfor is a good bet.
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Somebody post it here as soon as it's revealed, please and thanks
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The new Doctor is....................................................................................................................Give it a few minutes
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WHO THE FUCK IS IT?
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Since the DWC starts 5:30, now, UK time, could someone in the UK be so kind as to let the american Doctor Who fans know who is the next Doctor and you opinion on the choice? Thank you.
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The guy from the Mummy movies?
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because i"m away at the moment. cheers
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Or his brother.
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No need to watch this to find out.
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Just kidding. I guess I should drop names too. But now seriously, who is it?
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Not really.
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That would be worth watching.
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But I'm sure Vern did.
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O'Brian would be the absolutely most freaky Doctor in the show's history! I would love it, but I think he'd scare the kiddies too much!
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Quit fooling around. Who is it? spud mcspud, The Handsome 12th Doctor, one of you regulars let us know, thank you.
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But knowing the smart arses around here, they'll claim that Jennifer Saunders was announced.
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Jan 03, 2009 11:44:16 AM CST
Interesting the Doctor ONLY encounters current MASTERS.
by evilwizardglick
Yes, other than the dead actors which will never be reincarnated (well maybe digitized like they did with John Lennon) why does the doctor only ever meet current versions of the Master instead of previous ones? For all that bouncing through space and time there paths must have crossed on many ocassions through many regenerations.
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the fanboys will be tripping over their bits to be the first to announce it here. Patience, grasshopper.
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At this time, in this second, the program is on. It has not been announced yet.
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Brits? Anything? Anything? Please?
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Man, my math sucks. I'll never be a Timelord I guess.
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I was surprised at the similarity between Jake "the Snake" Roberts story and The Wrestler. Sure Randy wasn't a crack head like Jake, but it was damn near the same story.
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That's what I'd say if he were announced...ziing!
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"...is the hardest part." - Tom Petty
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Have patience.
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I'm guessing they will wait until the last few seconds to announce it.
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announced that he is 26 years old.
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We american fans are waiting. It seems strange they would pick the new Who this early, but, I guess the new people in charge have to start early.
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The next doctor is Matt Smith. Should have gone with James Callis. Devo.
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At least that is what the radio said.
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I don't know what's ambiguous about that statement. There were many people who said in interviews for the media that they didn't like black people and other equally racist and bigotted statements but were still going to vote for Obama because they wanted things to get better. I'm not saying that everyone that voted Obama was racist and bigotted. And I am most definitely saying that people that acted according to society norms of the past were racist and bigotted, because I don't believe in that "it's in the past so we should forgive their sins" bullshit. I don't think that's insulting, it's simply the truth.
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I Like to Hurt People meets Grunt! The Wrestling Movie
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Well, that lets out a lot of actors I want. Still waiting.
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He's been 26 for a long time
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on the radio.
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on the radio.
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I'm out dammit.
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It was ripped right down to the daughter scene. I'm sure someone will say "inspired by" or use the Rourke/Aronofsky story about Roddy Piper. But watching the two it was obviously Jake the Snakes life with a few tweaks and changes.
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And I'm half british! I AM THE NEXT DOCTOR!
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Exactly! And since When we're introduced to the Delgado Master he's already on his 12 regeneration they've set up the previous versions as this sort of enigma. The current Doctor fighting the pre-Delgado Masters would be brilliant. It IS a show about time travel after all.
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Let the Fanboys rage......
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...is Matt Smith: http://tinyurl.com/82sjvo
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...MATT SMITH.Let fly the comments
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Matt Smith
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I've never seen him in action, but a younger doctor is less interesting. The best have been more character actor types.
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is matt smith?
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WTF???
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First reaction: meh!
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http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1006408960/nm1741002
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...but he'd have to be an idiot not to know that the part could swallow his career whole, so I'm sure he'll give it all he's got.
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Do you Brits know who our next Doctor is?
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Never heard of him.
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Jan 03, 2009 12:01:52 PM CST
thecomedian, He should be meeting pre-time war timelords as well
by evilwizardglick
Never got any of that. They are fucking Timelords but only six have left the planet. The Doctor, Susan, The Master, The Rani, Romana and the Tibetan. And the Tibetan should still be floating around on earth.
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Okay, Tennant was cool but I don'T want another doctor whose poster hangs in teenie bedrooms.
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Good luck, Matt. And thank Rassilon you weren't Paterson Joseph!
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more like. I bet all of England just went WTF? in unison. Whatever. Not the end of the world. We'll see what happens next. At least we didn't get James Nesbitt. Or David Walliams.
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is Franknstein?
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Really? God, I was hoping at least for the Jekyll guy, hell, even Paterson Joseph, but some unknown kid? Disappointing. With Tennant, he's got some mighty big shoes to fill.
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Us Yanks don't have a clue about Matt Smith.
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http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=matt%20smith&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
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I didn't even see your comment when I wrote that. Damn. That man is freakish.
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http://tinyurl.com/8lphy8
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Great character name.
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1 o'clock eastern standard time.
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Matt Smith will suit Moffat's "serious sci-fi" re-invention of Doctor Who perfectly!
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and congratulations for british national treasure dr.who (above described as drivel by our american cousins) establishing 2009 talkback record.
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Walliams and Nesbitt would have killed the show dead. Anyway, I was pissed when Tennant got cast and now I love him, so I am going to be optimistic. These showrunners know what they're doing. When they're not making shitty spin-offs with the worst actors in Britain, that is.
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The BBC pussied out.
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Pick an actor with NO ACTING EXPERIENCE. What a true shame. Guess the Moff got saddled with the BeeBs choice.
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Who he?
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We hit send at the same time. Great minds, dude.
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Hope she wasn't a factor in the choice.
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Don't understand the hate. Is it some kinda hate on Irish dudes? I loved him in (the first couple) episodes of Jekyll
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Too many pretty boys in a row. Say what you will about JNT, but al least he cast the role with a modicum of diversity. I really would have loved to see Paterson Joseph in the role.
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Ruby in the smoke and Diary of a call girl.
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i hope he's good but i really only catch a few episodes of doctor who anyway. So grow some eye brows next time i see you boy !
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Activate whiney teenaged angst!
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Do some research before you post. Theres a good boy.
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What's wrong with Nesbitt. He was fucking amazing in Jekyll.
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C'mon is that all anyone knows Nesbitt from?
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WOW!!! An actor I know absolutely FUCKING NOTHING ABOUT?!?!?
And he's by far the ugliest Doctor so far. Looks like someone put out a fire on his face with a shovel. That said...
(1) Looks eccentric enough to hark back to the Tom Baker era. H4e's got that mad gothic hair that Noel Fielding and Russell Brand have, and a very odd-shaped face. He's quiet, intense, yet looks mischievous too. Young enough to last a few years in the role, and I'm sure he'll give it his all. But knowing how awesome some of Moffat's casting decisions have been in the past...
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You know, I think he'll be quite good.
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Kinda dull and predictable but I can live with it. I can see why they'd want to keep the demos they've been attracting with Tennant. I just hope they don't repeat this pattern yet again in 3-5 years. If RTD were still in charge I would hate this choice because we know where he would take it. But it's Moffatt so I'm okay with this. Thank God it's not Patterson Joseph.
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I did research him. STAGE acting is a world apart from TV acting. The guy quite frankly doesn't have the gravitas,real or feigned to pull this role off.
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Well, he was very "large" in that. There was a lot of acting in it, and the lack of subtlety didn't bode well for playing the Doctor, but Nesbitt was really good in Bloody Sunday. Really really good. It's when he does funny that I wince a lot.
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who was spot on. Matt smith is the eleventh. dr.
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Jan 03, 2009 12:11:07 PM CST
Is it only Americans knowing Brits from single shows?
by evilwizardglick
Fuck many of these actors have large bodies of work behind them, but the same single show gets tossed around all the time. Is this only an American thing where there is no past beyond the last fifty seconds?
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why announce the the new doctor then say he'll be back in a YEAR ! ! ! !
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wow. that really is a shock... Here's the BBC's article on him http://is.gd/euma
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Thx for the info on regeneration... I always waned to know more details.
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Matt Smith? Time to google.
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I've not seen this guy in anything so I have no idea if he is going to be any good or not, so best to reserve judgement. That said, seeing that it was someone I had never heard of was quite an anticlimax.
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Offical BBC statement & Pic with Tardis. Looking dark....
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My first response: meh. Another Tennant clone.
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Sorry, I know I can't stop going on about his face, but that's one UGLY motherfucker. The goth-loving Russell Brand Twilight-reading fath goth brigade may LOVE him, but the rest of us are thinking --
If you're casting an UGLY Doctor, why not an established ugly? Dexter Fletcher? Jason Flemyng? I know Flemyng fucked up as Quatermass, but he's generally okay.
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It might have something to do with the fact that a lot of these people are barely known in the USA and many have at most only been seen in one or two shows.
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Christ, prior to Doctor Who it was hardly like Tennant was 'famous.' He was a solid working actor - Doctor Who was his big breakout role. The same is true of Smith, he's got no baggage.
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for all you yanks the new doctor has been announced as Matt Smith!
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an ugly frankenstein's monster. when they started mentioning 26 year olds a twigged and got on the old wiki and shock horror it was him. I wanted Kris Marshall, he would have ruled.
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yeah.
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Lloytron, I know what you mean, even though Matt Smith was a name bandied about a while back. Still, I had a whole day of imagining a series of Who with Chiwetel Ejiofor as the Doctor. Has everyone here seen Redbelt yet? The man is pure gravitas.
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Matt Smith will be brilliant. But (as Smashing will NEVER let me forget) I'd have liked to have seen Lenny Henry's Doctor...
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I was shocked. Big time. I thought it would be Paterson Joseph. He's certainly not an actor who's been on my radar. I hope he can pull it off because he has HUGE shoes to fill. It could be a 1 season disaster or...he could be the best we've ever seen. WHO knows. Brave casting that's for sure. He looks weird enough though. But I'd love it if they dyed his hair GINGER!!! Then he'd be really, really weird and alien looking.
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MAN oh man - why do they do this? I was the number one doctor who fan in the PLANET man - so why the fuck would you change doctor who from this guy who is cool to this guy who is not cool. We just read about this fool on AICN everyone in my town is around here and we can not believe it. Why did they not follow my instructions and cast Christian Bale, maybe aaron eckhart, or Daniel Craig.
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Who is Matt Smith, has anyone out there seen him anything?
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He started off as an old man and, with only exception that i can think of, has been getting progressively younger with each regeneration! He'll be a ten year old in his last regeneration!Now to take a look at this Matt Smith guy...
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This "younging down" of the Doctor may have just passed the point of absurdity. Yerrrrgh.
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I know Richard Hammond gotta EAT (even though he's one trick less than a one-trick pony) but this shit is just insulting. Feels like the Beeb just reached into my frontal lobe and sucker-punched my taste and decency area into unconsciousness >:p
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As long as it doesn't turn into teen-angsty Smallville nonsense, it might be cool. He has a freaky, funky, deep face. And seems like a charming mugglefugger.
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...makes him look a little bit like a mix between Cillian Murphy and Tiny Ron in Rocketeer.
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"Party Animals" (Danny Foster)?
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Well I for one am rather excited about it all! RAH! Imagine the BBC managing to keep THAT a secret! Even though he did get a mention on here quite a few times this afternoon, have we got a BEEB sneak on here??????
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It sure is!
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...and was truly the most Doctor-like then they made the right choice. The picture of him in front of the Tardis is cool though I don't think that's gonna be his costume. It's too close to Eccleston unless their going for 20 something Hipster Doctor.
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I've installed a new dodge viper engine in the tardis so it goes that much faster.
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grand moff mentioned his hair several times, please don't tell me that they cast him based on how they can manipulate i.e style like tennant his hair? Seems like they didn't have the balls to get anyone out of left field - he'll last one season.
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As I said above, ideally it'd be Fry... but I like the idea of a Doctor I can't figure out. There's boundless potential.
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I'm ashamed to admit I laughed like an idiot at the guy who took 15 minutes to finish, and this girl who keeps singing and talking about big fat balls is some kind of hero.
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...I'm okay with this choice in in terms of his look. He doesn't look too ugly to scare the teengirls away, but still looks strange enough for a Doctor. :)
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Ah, what could have been http://barryfitzgerald.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/lenny_henry_1.jpg
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that they could actually BE a doctor! (and not a trainee one). We'll have to give the Moff the benefit of the doubt for now, but my first reaction is not a good one. Tennant was in his early/mid 30's when he got the part; that's as young as they should go, IMO.
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You Yanks don't know what you're missing.
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The reason they went young is because the actor can physically do the action involved. Tennant could, but even he admitted the schedule was tough at times.
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His face reminds me of that weird neanderthal playing a sparkly vampire in The Twilight. Is this what the girls like now?
But he could be good. I'm not going to be bitching about this guy on no information. He could be the best Doctor ever and make us all eat our words and/or a bag of dicks.
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and he was one of the best. And I think Moffat is a strong enough writer to make a point about the torment of being a 900 year old authoritive demigod trapped inside the body of someone who looks like they might still get ID'd for alcohol. But he has an odd, quirky look, he's not an obvious pretty boy - if he can act and has a decent costume who knows?
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I'm not one of those Bill Nighy supporters who wants a really old Doctor - I know there are a lot of action scenes to get through. I just don't think the Doctor should look like he's eagerly awaiting his first shave.
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I predict that in 2010 you will all be going 'holy shit, he's awesome.'
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I am very disappointed in this choice. Moff's writing is so beyond this kids range that it's kinda sad for him. Having said that I will watch this trainwreck. I watched them cast a Scottish Yoda and with Ace he made Who fun again. Sadly I also saw them cast a former Who villain and he burned out my color controls.... But seriously this is a huge gamble. I may pay or fail. We shall see.
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He looks like an emo kid with cancer.
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Then the next actor to be cast will be black.
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Then the next actor to be cast will be black.
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When that skinny, odd-looking dweeb came on screen I almost did a double-take. No, tell me you're NOT the new Doctor? Oh, fucking jeezus titty christ he IS the new Doctor!! After all that build-up and the flashbacks to previous Doctors they then go and blow a huge raspberry in the faces of all Doctor Who fans worldwide. So if I've got this right, the new Doctor is Quasimodo Jnr dressed as a Goth? I just hope this Matt Smith is a good actor!!
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Touche. But I think it's worth giving him a chance. They weren't looking to cast anyone in particular, so evidently they saw something worth doing.
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Then yes, he is a good actor and yes he has the gravitas of the Doctor and the affability.
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Yay?
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For many years White men have played..ethnic roles in movies.They played indians, put on black face,played chinese men, hell even now with Goku ( iknow supposed to be an alien..but was made in japan) is white. Prince of Persia is white..and nobody says a thing,But the minute a Non-white actor might play a white role the klan pokes their head out of there ass. point is people are people and sometimes change is good
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and I can kinda see him as the DOC.
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...for the new Doctor. At least the teenage girls will be happy.
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Like pizza and beer on a Saturday night, you know it's awful for you but it's sooooooo GOOD!
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What are you babbling about? They cast the actor they wanted regardless of race. If there was a more fitting actor who happened to be non-white, they would've cast him.
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"I know what you are. I've seen you go inside that blue phone booth and not come out for days. You're pasty and British. You always use that little lite-brite tired gauge thing on the vending machines in the cafeteria at lunch. In history class you always know more than the teachers. You're always grabbing my hand and making me run down the hallways with you. You keep offering me jelly babies." "Say it." "Timelord."
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IT'S EASIER for you to say that then admit there is still a divide in hollywood or any media place by that matter
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At least we don't know if he's good or bad. Unlike some of the 'actors' mentioned above. Lenny Henry (slightly funny 30 years ago - PITA ever since , along with his talentless wife), Kris Marshall - thanks for the laugh! As for all the film actors mentioned - well the BBC doesn't have enough money to pay them for a start. For another, most of them are too far up their own arses to take the part. Personally I would've liked someone older but then maybe that's because I'm 38.
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I'm 31. The Doctor should _not_ be younger than me. Moffatt better have some fanfuckingtastic scripts on hand for this to not turn this into 90Who10.
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Jan 03, 2009 12:42:50 PM CST
Do a black Doctor. Lynch him the first 5 min in the premiere
by tallboy66
Then end the show forever, with the voiceover saying: "And that's how Doctor Who met his end. Because he was black. So, therefore, the moral of the Dr. Who storyline? Don't be black." Greatest twist in history.
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All I'm saying is that someone at the BBC must have made a fucking fortune when they went down to Ladbrooks and put 20 quid on him being the new Who... Still, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt till I see him in it.
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Should've went older. Instead we're getting three relatively young guys in a row with a generally similar look. (Granted, Smith and Tennant are more similar than Eccleston.)
One thing I used to like about Doctor was that the regenerations were distinctly different from the previous version. Hartnell to Troughton to Pertwee to Baker to Davison to C. Baker to McCoy to McGann. Hell, even to Eccleston. There was a distinct difference in look and certainly personality between all of these men.
I liked Tennant in the role and his personality was different than Eccleston but I couldn't help but feel too much of a familiarity with the change. And now Smith feels like much of the same. You get the feeling that the producers were surprised by Eccleston leaving (despite their assertions to the contrary) so they cast Tennant to carry out the plan they envisioned by bringing the Doctor back. And now with Tennant leaving, it feels like the same thing.
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What, so you'd rather they cast a 'non-white' actor merely to make a statement, as opposed to casting someone they actually wanted? That's hardly improving things, it's merely changing the system so that hirings aren't about qualifications or proficiency but rather about making statements.
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Why? first impression is that DrWho's gonna turn into a teenybop high school/buffy fest? The guy is too young,they were pushing it with Tennant but 26?plus he looks like he just butted an anvil.
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I take it Moff etc just watched Twilight then?
Sorry, no, not watching.
The guy comes across as a right wanker.
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How many times do you think a non white actor has been passed over to keep the status quo.your telling me they could not find one middle eastern looking actor..to play PoP.. and don't even tell me jake gyllenhall a good actor...or i'll get the NAACP to come to your house(just joking)
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Ya know what, despite thinking POP is a pathetic franchise... yes, that's fucked up. But that's different to Doctor Who, where the character isn't bound by any specific nationalistic or appearance constrictions. Yes, he's always been white up to now, but there's no reason he couldn't be 'non-white.'
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He is seriously hot, like I need him to take my temperature, all you people calling him ugly are mentaloids, this doctor is shagadelic.
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what exactly is a "character actor"?
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At least wait until he writes an episode before decrying your so called saviour, it looks a little gauche otherwise.
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Oh, for fuck's sake. You'd rather they cast a black Doctor because he's black rather than that he's the best actor? Do you think a black person who is cast for their COLOUR more than for their TALENT is going to THANK you for that shit?
Political correctness is condescending, goes for quota over story and narrative and is generally one of the worst, most insidious things to happen to the BBC. If you want to argue about white guys playing Othello, fine - in this day and age that's not cool any more. But I don't hear shit from guys like you when Eddie Murphy decides to play some old white dude in whatever fatsuit comedy he's doing this week. Bottom line - you want your agenda put ABOVE all consideration regarding story and narrative. As someone who DOES write drama, I put my story ABOVE ALL ELSE - including proportional representation, political correctness, agendas of all kinds, and any of this PC bullshit. Would you have liked to see half of the slaves in ROOTS played by white people - in order to even up the quota of whites in that series? FUCK NO! Firstly because it would have looked fucking ridiculous, and secondly because the story took place in a time and a place that necessitated black actors playing black roles. The role of Doctor Who is one of a Time Lord who can regenerate twelve times, for thirteen incarnation - and it appears 11 of the 13 have been white males. WHY THE FUCK SHOULD THAT CHANGE NOW? Setting aside your one-sided, PC-obsessed ideas on how to cast a story acording to some racial quota system ABOVE the requirements of the story's 46 year backstory, WHY should the character - who has been established to be white and male for over 900 years of his life - CHANGE NOW?
Oh, that's right. Because you'll throw your toys out of your pram and cry "Racist!" if they don't. The STORY specifies a white male - or has done for 900+ years of this character's life so far - and it'd require a pretty fucking hefty reason for why all that shit should change now. It's a STORY - and it should place STORY ABOVE ALL ELSE!
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Plus i don't even watch the show so i do'nt really care..and trust even i think some char.should stay the way they are...like making superman black would be really bad
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...let's wait until we see him as the Doctor BEFORE we decide if he's the best thing ever or an abomination with legs.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/s4/misc/news/index_new_doctor.shtml
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makes you immediately think of Twilight, then your generation is sad, not theirs. I have to trust them on this until I see the guy work. They wouldn't hand this to an empty-headed snot while Moffat is in charge. A challenging choice, sure. But not a bad one.
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Ejiofor was waaaay overqualified for a cheesy sci-fi show like Who. Great move by them bringing his name up, though. Articles like this probably got a lot of hits by people who were incredulous of such a great actor doing a lower-tier TV show.
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You think he's HOT? We could have had Tom Chambers (if I were on that team, Tom would be all I'd wnat in a maaaaan, baby!) but we get THIS munter?
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they haven't even written any scrpits yet. this Smith guy did annoy me in those Sally Lockhart films but they were shit anyway. only watched them to see Billie Piper. I'll wait and see, but I hope they dye his eyebrows because the hair is so light it looks like he doesn't have any!! a British James Woods!!!
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...makes him the assistants, assistant? Doesnt help him achieve that gravitas required for the Doctor really , does it?!
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None of us really know. I hope so. I'm also skeptical. But I suppose it comes down to what each person's priority with Who is.Me, I don't really care for the recent Who, which seems to be lots of special effects and a semi-incompetent Doctor always being shown up by regular people.Give me a Tom Baker or Jon Pertwee--those guys could really nail the humor, the drama, but could also go somewhere that the recent actors absolutely cannot--to a place where you almost feel unsettled by their alienness. It's subtle, and for all the merits of the new revival of Who, I haven't felt any subtlety or depth in the acting. Davison was only 29, but he got it.It seems as though the producers know where the money is. It's Who meets Harry Potter & Twilight, and heck, they can always change it later, right?I'm tired of a Who that tries to be cool. Hip, modern attire and trendy hairstyles. It's dumbing it down. I hope everyone who enjoys the current show keeps enjoying it, and I hope this new guy is great, but to me it just seems to keep getting thinner.
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Would you feel the same way if they changed oh let's just say blade to a white actor for example. would you still have that narrow-minded thought process then?
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Took a few looks at some clips of the guy in action and i believe he'll pull it off. He seems to be able to play both comedic and dramatic, and i'm looking forward to seeing what he can do in the role.I'll make futher judgements when i see the costume he gets given.
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Mighty fine actor! And get ready for Sally Sparrow!
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It's not just the big floppy hair that reminds me of Thingy Patterson, it's the long long face with the features clustered in the middle, like a man in the moon. There is more than a passing resemblance, though Patterson has an overbite, I think.
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They should have gone for this guy instead
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He is young enough already.
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she was quite the fetch!! is there rumours she will return!!! what about the Doctor's daughter?
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Like harry?
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...won't that look a bit strange if she resurfaces, there can only be a couple of years difference between them in age, surley?
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I think he was directing the twilight dig at me, not that I care!
And yeah, I'm watching Total Wipeout too!!
Hehe, cheered me up a bit after the Dr Who 90210 announcement.
And NO,, I'm not giving him a chance, ok?
To me it seems the final stage of making Who a 100% kids show.
Do you think when he regens the first line will be "fuck me, I look like a cunt?"
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Bloody bitches.
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I've questioned some females and Number 11 gets thumbs up. there is a MILF door doors down the street. I might go ask her later, but the Queen of Sheba has just returned with a bag of greasy chips. Later.
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there is potential for comedy in that.
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...on the "weird, young, skinny white guy" choice. Bleah.
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Last two were drab.
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Besides Ejiofor has already been in a cheesy scifi shitfest called Serenity, has he not cunthead? This show might be having its Sylvester McCoy moment under the much heralded Moffat. Oh dear!
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got a distracted
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in show and in life?
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Serenity isn't a shit-fest. I can accept not liking it, but nothing crafted with that much love from the creator deserves to be called a shit-fest.
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Because you can't have this kid travel around the universe with that middle aged chick they have now. It would have a weird mother/son vibe going on. Hopefully they'll cast a hot slab of jailbait with some nice Perpugilliam sized breasts. I'm not familiar with British actresses, so who would be the likely choice for a new companion?
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It would have been a wonderful transition scene "OH NO! THAT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN!" -- It would have carried hilarious story stuff for the entire run-- 900 years as a male and now...
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she is a MILF. also the Queen of Sheba saw my post about paying a visit on Mrs. O'Leary so now I won't be. plus her Highness said meh to Number 11 until he spoke and then she changed her mind.
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Interesting choice. Seems charismatic. This and Moffatt in charge.......I will tune in!
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Or a great Romana when they bring the Time Lords back. But she's too busy trying to be a C level American Movie star.
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He had starred in a few ITV dramas, and Blackpool and Casanova for the Beeb. He wasn't a household name by any means but if you saw him you'd have said "ah, it's that bloke off the telly".
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As soon as I saw Matt Smith revealed I thought Oh No! They've gone for kiddie appeal. Then I calmed down and figured maybe he'll surprise us at the doc. Moffet cast him, he must know something we don't - as did RTD with David Tennant
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'Sides both Tennant and Tom Baker were unknowns - in fact Tom Baker was completely fucking unknown - working on a building site when he was cast!!!
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A character actor is someone a bit off, not a standard lead actor. Usually gets the more interesting, distinctive roles (like the Doctor). I'd say that all the Doctors were in this category through Baker, up until Davidson. I think that was one of the appeals of the series, that the Doctor was sort of off in one way or another, similar to Sherlock Holmes.
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unless they're tommy lee jones, in which case they keep potraying that one guy in the hope that they'll get another Oscar
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Quit being an asshole. It's not like scratcher invented the term. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Character_actor
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as he goes through his (final?) regenerations. Maybe this is the way timelords age.
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did the oft mentioned Time War occur between the McGann and Eccleston Doctors
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did the oft mentioned Time War occur between the McGann and Eccleston Doctors
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and he sent two replies. one saying billie piper connection. and another one after I sent pics. which said Jeez. exterminate!!!!!
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I don't dismiss the possibility that he could end up being very good but my first impression is: how generic.
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Looking at the Guardian page for this story just now, they mentioned that ITV show Demons, the one with the chap off Life on Mars. Did anyone see it? I completely forgot it was on.
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I recorded it.
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I was told this happen in the Baker era by a supposed fan. I was a casual viewer for the McCoy years and missed a lot of Eccleston episodes.
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Forgot about that one. I'm dying to see the Life On Mars guy play an American! To the torrents i shall go!
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..but leaping to a 26 year old who looks even younger than that seems a bit OTT. I was looking forward to Patterson :(
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No problemo. I'm not a huge Who-ite, I just have a good memory when it comes to TV continuity.
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Teasing. you have the actor you want but you dont want to reveal who it is. so you plant stories in the press claiming otherwise. Russell T has been in the business for a long time that he knows that a big part of the game is Bullshit. I either thought it was going to be ben Wishaw or Ben Barnes. Ben Wishaw is too young and Ben Barnes is a very bland actor. He played Brince Gaspian. that is how he pronouced Prince Caspian.
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I can't make out the listings!!! will Demons be repeated - will it be on iTunes - I chance buying it based on Glenister apperance?
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" a good memory when it comes to TV continuity " - Dude, apply for a writing job on Heroes!!
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shit - I don't have ITV2
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I really don't get this choice. It would've been better simply to recast Paul McGann. Younger is not better, especially when the actor brings no fan base with him. This smacks me of the casting of Colin Baker and Sylvester McCoy back in the Classic Series days which ultimately killed the show along with RTD quality scripts mixed with no budget for effects. The only thing that's going to save this is if Moffat himself writes every damn episode. At least he has a year head start to get that pen in gear, or his keys on the keyboard while banging away with Final Draft.
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This kid's hair is making me rage. I honestly don't know how interested I'm going to be in Doctor Who by way of Hot Topic.
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It's filled with blatant errors.
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So say we all.
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At the end of the article I just mentioned, the writer says this:
"for one series at least - the next maelstrom of giddy speculation can begin in earnest: the identity of his new companion. The smart money's on Gina Bellman. Or Michelle Ryan. Or…"
Gina Bellman is the worst actress in the world. Worse than Saffron Burrows. She'd be like a mom to the Doctor. Could anything else be worse? Fuck it, bring back Sally. Carey Mulligan is 24ish, so the age thing would make some sense. Plus most Who fans fell for her. They'll go for an unknown, of course, just to baffle us, or someone who played Put-Upon Orphan No. 4 in Little Dorrit or something. -
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and its on Saturday evenings. just watched a trailer on YouTube - why put make up and prosthetics on Mackenzie Crook?? it just makes him look less ugly!!!
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You fanboys are NOT their demographic - they saw the numbers for Twilight, the Jonas Brothers movie and HSM3, and they made the correct choice for A TEA-TIME SERIES AIMED AT CHILDREN AND TWEENS. Sheesh. He's not who I would have gone with, but the little girls understand. I'm willing to give him a chance, but he's going to have an uphill battle after Tennant, whom people adore. Who knows, he might only last a year (like Martha Jones). Not the end of the world.
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they could do a crossover with the upcoming Stargate: 90210
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the actress playing her
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oh well, hope it doesnt turn into doctor 90210. he's a little on the young side.
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I wasn't trying to infer that Colin Baker or Sylvester McCoy were young; I was inferring that their casting was simply bonkers on the part of JNT. If Moffat wanted to go younger with the casting, me thinks he should have picked Jamie Davis. Yes, I know he was on the *Sarah Jane Adventures* already as a villain but that doesn't count. At least he's attractive enough to keep the ladies (and the gay males) watching which is important for sustaining the ratings. The official casting does neither. Maybe this announcement is misdirection on the part of Moffat. Now that would be cool; but too cool for the BBC. Sigh.
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...Either would make great new companions regardless of who is cast as The Doctor.
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He looks more like Sarah Jane Adventures fodder than Doctor Who. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt until i see him in the role. This could be the nail in the coffin for me though. Moff or not.
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Let's just go DORKIER with the character.
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the prices expired a few days ago.
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Sir, you joke... but if I could, I would. I'd do that for free.
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glenister was awful.
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Noel Fielding
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he's only put two crappy pictures of you on imdb. Good luck mate. i' don't know who the fuck you are, nor understand all the secrecy behind your unveiling. Too be honest it was like the unveiling of the masked magician. who the fuck is that anyways. i'm sure you'll do a great job.
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I've no clue who this Matt Smith guy is or what he is like, but I know what Steven Moffat can do and to my knowledge he has never disappointed (me, at least). Give them 3 episodes and judge then.BTW seeing as this new guy is about 12 (yes I know he is 26 IRL and 900 odd in the show), he's totally going to have a bonk on for any companion, and Captain Jack will be sniffing around him more than ever!
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BBC's Robin Hood or awful like Primeval - wait they're both on the same end of awful aren't they!!!
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Tell me that guy is not a shoe in to replace Heath Ledger as The Joker for possibly a cameo in the upcoming Batman sequel. Come on he reeks Heath.
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having watched the interview. I like this kid. he has the sam,e manic energy the other dr's have. good choice.
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Er, he had already been cast as the villain in a Harry Potter movie at that point (though it wasn't released until a while after that). It's not like he was living under a bridge or something.
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I remember he used to get right pissed at the billy goats.
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Jan 03, 2009 3:04:53 PM CST
With Moffat & this guy, we're entering a far better time for Who
by kubla_khan
...At least this kid is quirky, not too fuckin' handsome, and he's got this kind of weirdly energetic, off-kilter way of talking. He's an oddball, exactly like the Dr should be. I like the choice. Moffat said he was originally skewing far older, but basically this 26-yr-old came in and nailed the fuck out of the part. Moffat knows what he's doing, and the good news is that the high camp and fart jokes reign of RTD is almost over! FUCK YEAH!
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I hate him and I hate that I liked his Christmas special.
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Looking forward to see how this is going to work out. Interesting skewing to youth - will Moffat create some deeper meaning to this new appearance as the Doc gets towards his final regenerations? I vote for no assistant, just a different alien love interest every so often as per Kirk. On that subject, youthful 'regenerations' are the in thing.
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I'm stoked as to see Matt as the New Doctor.
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So this news kinda screws up some of the River Song theories for a while - she knew him when he was 'older'.Still, he knows that he marries her, leaves her and that she is doomed to spend her life in a virtual world, so he probably isn't really looking forward to getting together with her. :D
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judging from his FLOCK of FUCKING SEAGULLS haircut. Dude gotta get some clippers.
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I'm with you guys, at first glance he doesn't scream "Time Lord" in fact he kinda looks like a cross between Ricky Hatton and Wayne Rooney with emo hair.
But he's not gonna be The Doctor for another 12 months...we won't see him in the role until next Christmas and that will probably just be a brief appearance at the end following the regeneration.
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the kid must have had a killer audition to change moffs mind in casting a younger doctor. if he's good enough for moff he's good enough for me. good luck matt smith!
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tough one there, as you say they are on the same level of awfulness. It was closer to Primeval, maybe ITV sci-fi/horror doesn't agree with me. By the way I love the Gene Genie, but he seems miscast - though I'll probably stay with it as I need my Saturday evening fix! However, you can judge how awful the show was not just by Glenister accent but also by the overuse of the "cool" soundtrack. Character called Ruby in trouble, cut to lead actor running down the street with the Kaiser Chiefs "Ruby" playing. Oh dear.
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I'm offended.
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I thought all the youngsters read from The Script these days. also I went tio see INKHEART today - bloody good - plus it carried trailers for WATCHMEN, ALIENS VS. MONSTERS and STAR TREK (hadn't seen them on the big screen before) - fucking awesome - as is that hamster from BOLT!!!
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OMFG! They cast a blond guy as Bond... it's going to be shit... I'm going to boycott it and never watch it... let's start a petition to get the guy removed... wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah... Sound familiar? The Moff has spoken. 9/10 of you were convinced it was going to be Paterson Joseph or Chiwetel Eijofor simply because of a rumour AICN picked up from The Guardian. The Moff has already confounded expectations in his first act. I think the actor is weird looking, has odd mannerisms and talks funny. Just like Tom Baker. Silence, fools, the Moff has spoken.
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Manufactured to the hilt, they were mentioned on the 5live "next big thing for 2009" music show. Maybe i'm being naive thinking there's anything orginal in music anymore. INkheart eh? Mark Kermode likes it so it pretty much means I'll like it!
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Doctor Wholly Oaks
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all these white doctors. Can't a timelord be black?
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i can live with this, I thought Tennant was gonna suck, but he surprised me.
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....this Smith guy DOES look a bit weird (Playdoh face), young (26? looks 20) and comes across as a bit of a luvvie too-But Moffatt is no fool and if this is his choice it would be unwise to rubbish it. I do have inital misgivings though-the poor guy is going to have an uphill battle to win fanboy hearts-if he plays him young and hip, (allied with a same-age companion)to me that is just not the Doctor Who I want to see, even for the odd story. I am sure Moffatt had his choice but I wouldn't be surprised if the yoof-obsessed BBC management didn't push for a young doctor.....we'll all just have wait and see what happens in SPRING 2011!!(sigh)...
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Bah.
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call the tardis his "crib"?
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or his "ride"
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laters
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I'm willing to give it a chance after the first episode. Crook was okay I suppose, and I like the look of the monsters. I think this will be more imaginative than Buffy, but being just 6 episodes I think it will fail.
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has nobody else here noticed that Steven Moffat himself posted in this thread today?
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sorry, are you saying demons will be more imaginative than buffy? seriously?
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if anybody finds out if Demons will be repeated post that info here please
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PLEASE... Can we have less of the silly "Bonnie Fucking Langford" moments (such those stupid nuns with cat faces etc.)
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ITV2, 8PM tomorrow.
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If you are Steven M, River Song was the best thing about Doctor Who S4.
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I do not have ITV2 - alas
alas river fucking song was neither the best of season 4 nor in any way good - that actress is a twank - now seriously I've got to get out of here
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... Just so I could hear the Doctor say "Feets, do yo' stuff!" when the Daleks showed up.
Or I was hoping for William Shatner. With his Unholy Acting Ability(TM) they could have signed the Shat to play the next THREE Doctors...
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There is a scene...uh...can't remember the name of the episode...it's from the end of season 3 (Tennant vs The Master season) where The Doctor is explaining to Martha and Jack who The Master is and they flash back to show a young Master about to look into the Time Vortex. Behind him is a black Time Lord.
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go back to the other drs. They will balance things out a bit. Here is where I think the moff played a blinder. Young actor, physically strong to do action scenes and yet Smith is possibly very mature for his age. I liked tennants manic energy but that is all he could do and after a while I got really irritated by the wide eyed shots, the tonils shots etc. The Hired Matt smith after the auditions because he can act. They spoke to everyone. Apart from the tv work, he has done stuff on stage. So the moff and piers wenger must have spoken to people In the young vic. While he is a suprise to us, cause we dont know him. He is known to the people in the biz. He has talent. that is why he was cast. demographics are also a factor. I look at him as the prince harry dr who. Bit of a bruiser, bit of a party animal. in fact I was thinking along the lines of Nicholas Hoult. star of skins. They are aiming for that audience.
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geek. With heavy emphasis on comedy.
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What happened?
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the fans drove him crazy. He had to leave Catherine Tate's stage showa few months ago because the crowd started singing the Doctor who theme song. He and Georgia Moffet have to hide out in order to get any privacy in their relationship. I imagine he just could not handle it.
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He's only off by a year or so, I think; he has about the same amount of time in the role as Jon Pertwee, who also went longer than the standard "three years." It was a long, very respectable run.
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...Just watches the 'Doctor Who at the Proms'...interesting how WHO is very much portrayed as a lil kiddies programme on the whole by the BBC (lots of shots of 5 year olds looking scared as WHO baddies mingled in the audience). The whole concept of the Doctor has so much more to offer then this. I always thought that modern WHO could do with having a few later (post watershed) episodes for grown-up only (y'know, no fucking alien babies made out of human fat) but instead more intense, intricate stories, and Moffat is just the man for the job-anyone agree?
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They had to stop him going to Who cons when he started. He is a mad fan. I think he COULD handle it if any man could, but with the creative handover it was the right time.
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He didn't want to outlast him as Who - just outlive him. He's been gradually poisoning his cornflakes for some time now.
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WHO has always been a children's show with adult elements. RTD's Who was no different. He had his silly episodes, yes, but after such a long hiatus from TV, I will wager no other production team could have made DW reemerge as the proud British institution it once was, critically acclaimed and beloved by the audience. He also spawned successful spinoffs, something WHO has never had before. By most standards RTD's Who has been a smashing success, with both humor and drama. Will I not miss certain tics he had? No, I won't miss them, but I think he deserves his due. Am I excited about Moffat's spin? Yes, very.
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People seem to forget that River Song knew the Doctor from WAY in his future, i.e. beyond what we're ever gonna see on the show unless it runs for another 50 years or something. Who we are going to see, I imagine, is his daughter, Jenny, who's played by an actress only a couple of years younger than Matt Smith. I'm sure they'll handle that in a funny way. Probably his current assistant will think Jenny is his ex-lover!
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Jan 03, 2009 4:54:14 PM CST
Is it possible for the Doctor to regenerate off his feet anymore
by its a lion
Imagine the 4th Doctor trying to stand up with half the bones in his body broken. Or the 6th after that terrible accident with the exercise bike.
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Tom Baker was the Doctor for seven series. Tennant has done three series.
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Funny you should mention Skins - I wondered if a new companion might be found in their female cast. Which would mean they are REALLY planning to skew younger.
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Good call with this Smith kid
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Jan 03, 2009 5:20:35 PM CST
Okay now that I've seen the extended interview on Youtube....
by thecomedian
I'm perfectly fine with this choice infact I'm actually a bit enthusiastic. He IS The Doctor and he seems like he'll make it his own in the way that people here have been talking about the ones from the original series. I hope he won't have that Flock of Seagulls hair when they shoot but other than that I'm pretty excited and happy for the guy. He sounds like Pertwee and has the quirkiness of Tom Baker. Since he's so young he could in fact play the character as long as Baker did or longer. We'll see.
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I caught one episode (the one with The Brigadier) and thought it was pretty good for a kids show.
Is it worth torrenting them do you know?
Also, have you seen the 'animated' Dr Who with The Doctor and Martha? Fucking awful, there's one on the iPlayer now if you're in the Uk and want to see some of the shoddiest animation in years -
Tennant is dating Moffett.
ewww, reeks that peter/claire thing
dirty old men
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I guess they could explain her away pretty easily, if unsatisfactorily for the viewer.
I mean we've no idea how much time passed between The Doctor ditching Donna and the just-shown Christmas special. Without a companion to anchor it timewise it could have happened years later.
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What a terrible choice.i was horrified to see someone so young play the doctor..he is just way way too young for the role. He doesnt have a particulary good voice either? note that nearly all the other doctors had great voices..tom baker,jon pertwee,patrick troughton,chris ecclestons northern twang and the smooth tones of mr tennant!! It should have been someone aged between 35-45..but i thought tennant was iffy when i heard he was cast, so i'll give mr smith a chance to be fair, but it's gonna take something spectacular to overshadow dave tennant. Although i've been a firm critic of russell t davies,i have to give him credit for a) casting 2 great leads in the role and B) keeping the show grounded on earth..something the older post the pertwee era didnt do and suffered for in my opinion. Although im a huge fan of Moffat i'm worried by this casting choice and also hope that he doesnt overhaul the show radically from what Davies has re-created since bringing the show back. It would be good to have a familiar anchor like rose tyler ,capt jack,martha jones etc to continue being a part of the show to a degree. We'll see in 2010 but we still have 4 more glorious 1 hr specials with mr tennant to look forward too!!
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If so, the very best of luck sir, with the new chap and the new series. Though I have to say I remain absolutely gutted that we won't get at least one series of Tennant's Tenth Doctor as stewarded by yourself. It's a tragedy!!
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Dude looks like he has a wig on sideways. I wonder if the {crotchety, clownish, dandy, playful, dashing} cycle of personalities will continue? We'd be due for crotchety.
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If not Ejiofor, they should have gone with a woman. This announcement is the "Who cares moment of the year???"
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My 2nd post hear today. After reading some of the earlier new doctor suggestions some were rather good..especially james callis and malcolm mcdowell..i wouldnt mind seing a wrinly mcdowell in the role and he is a great actor. Maybe in the future. Someone earlier aslo said that smith is a proper actor who can act!!?? so tennant can't fuckin act!!!..get real the mans a genius and i bet it's not too long before some hollywood film snaps him up? also he has been gaetting rave reviews for his portrayl as Hamlet at the RSC since last summer. The clips shown of smiths past work didnt inspire much confidence beyond an extra from Eastenders frankly. I pray this just isnt the fuckin train wreck for hell. Fingers crossed.
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Why does everyone assume that River Song had met Tennant's Doctor previously (in her timeline)? It's clear from the episode that she has met several different future incarnations of the Doctor, but no definitive statement that she had met Tennant's Doctor before.
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As long as Matt Smith brings his own identity to the role whilst honouring what has gone before him at the same time (a tough gig for any actor), then he'll be a great Doctor. My initial reaction was how he has a strange facial similarity to Peter Davison! I couldn't care less about his age, personally. Whether he's 26 or 56, as long as he's got the acting chops then he'll do just fine. And I've looked up a few clips of his acting in other things and he seems to have versatility - and that's an important asset for anyone playing The Doctor to have. I look forward to seeing what he'll bring to the role. Let's see if we can't do something about that hair though :P
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Jan 03, 2009 6:27:00 PM CST
Matt Smith...uhm...not overwhelmed nor underwhelmed...just indif
by shub-wankalot
Gah! Young is tne new "it." And Matt comes across as...young...no denying that. It had to happen sooner or later, and the target audience should be pleased, in the wake of Twilight's theatrical release. Boo-yah! That is all.
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Steve Moffat came on board Doctor Who the first time with Peter Davison, makes sense he would find a genetically similar man to do the job. Hopefully his adventures will wow me more than Davison's did.
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Just like Obama, Moff seems to have unanimous support for taking over, but also like Obama, he has the curse of ridiculously high expectations. People seem to be under the impression that now Moffat's in charge the show's going to become some dark adult show and will switch timeslots to after the watershed. Um, no, the remit from the BBC remains the same. Two thirds of the Doctor Who audience are kids (the 5-6 million that Torchwood loses from audience figures). I wouldn't be expecting a radical shift if I was you. It'll be more of the same, just with someone else's ideas for monsters, characters and plots guiding it.
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Should have been Doc 11.
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how the hell is this kid gonna convince ANYONE he knows a damn thing about anything but how to make a playlist on his ipod?
Ejiofor would have made an interesting choice but I guess he was too OLD?
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Um, I think you have me confused with someone else.
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Jeeeeeeeeez, that's a bit young. Even Peter Davison was older than that when he took the part, and he's always been my favorite. I did kind of like Smith when I saw his interview. He seems like he could pull of a good 'quirky'. I do like the fact he was very fidgety with his hands, maybe he can put a little bit of that into his Doctor.
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I basically said he should put some of his fidgety hands in the Doctor. Heh.
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Damn fine show first season. Then it got all Buffy.
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thanks for the interview link, Mr X. I did like his energy and it seemed appropriate for the doctor. I even found myself smiling a bit. I hope that the 'getting younger' thing is played on in the writing and they use it to make a point. But since my favorite episodes are those written by Moff, I have some faith. Don't fuck this up!
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And I am predicting we're skipping the crotchety and clownish and going to dandy on this one. His haircut is crying our for dandy duds. If that IS his haircut, and not a duck decoy on his head.
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Funny clothes, eccentric, daggy, not cool. The first reaction normal people have is, "Who the hell is this nutcase?" Sorry, but the Beeb is making Dr Twilight/Buffy. So Moffat was telling the truth, he really has shaken things up -- by pissing on everything we've ever loved about Dr Who to make it all Gen Y. Fuck off.
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For those who are already haters of this new actor, I urge you to wait until we see what he looks like in costume. He may even have some sort of facial hair when he begins filming the summer. Wait for the pictures when they emerge and then you can judge if he looks like 'The Doctor'. Also remember that Moff turned down Spielberg for this gig. I doubt he would have made this casting decision without due thought.And...on the subject of the Moff: it's not Carefulsilly. You only need to read the guy's previous posts to know this:"I was bored. Very bored. Martha is back and is instantly sidelined and appears to be more wooden than ever. I have no idea why people love her so much. I am sick and tired of the 'pink lighting effect equals aliens.' Sometimes I think it looks like a CBBC family drama. Cheap. And what sort of cliffhanger was that? Millions of people under threat! What do we get? Some people in a car park running around. So, I'm afraid yet again Helen Raynor has bored me to tears. Nice CGI though."- Carefulsilly on April 27th 3:18 during the Talkback for 'The Sontaran Strategy'Does that really sound like something the upcoming showrunner of Doctor Who would be writing?
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He was disappointed with Moff forgoing with the "safe" choice to follow up Tennant. He made an excellent point that if Smith would never been chose to follow Eccleston.
It's all kind of a wait and see for me. Today is the first day I've ever seen, heard of or heard this guy speak. I hope he's generally more articulate than he was the BBC confidential interview. He still seemed all starry eyed geeked out by being chosen in that clip and he's obviously known for a while -
I was too eager to lash back, and I've hurt an innocent bystander!! How can I rectify this? Here, have a jelly baby!!
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If scratcher has a problem with the question I asked him/her, then scratcher will let me know!! So whoa, horsey, and relax!!
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Jan 03, 2009 8:04:23 PM CST
It's sad that they've announced the eyebrowless little git...
by moribundman2000
...because now the septics won't be allowed to throw around the names of the only 5 or 6 British actors to have made a significant impact Stateside; "its gotta be Benny Hill", "I'll bet my life it's John Cleese!", "I don't see anything in Ricky Gervais' schedule for... um... a while"
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I just saw the "confidential" thing, why would he fake the accent?
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That's what they do. Acting. Like pretending.
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he solves problems with Guitar Hero and Dance Dance Revolution
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I know a lot of people seem worried by the choice of Matt Smith (how ironic btw - last name Smith ^.^; Maybe Moffat just couldn't resist the irony?), but c'mon people - let's give him a chance along with our best wishes for success! I was surprised by the choice (like a lot of others, due to the River Song references, I was expecting someone a bit older), but I also have a lot of faith in Mr. Moffat. The fact is, as much as I enjoy Doctor Who in general, I can truthfully say Moffat's episodes are CONSISTANTLY my very favorite, and I always audibly "ooOooHhh" when his name comes up as I know I'm in for a real treat.
My first Doctor was Eccleston. When I found out he was leaving and saw his successor and how different Tennant was, I honestly was pretty sad and thought my favorite show had ended and it would never be as enjoyable again. And I grew to love Tennant within a few short episodes just as much as Eccleston (they're both "my doctor").
This regeneration, after watching Smith's introduction on Confidential (had to Youtube it as I'm in the US), I'm definitely giving him, and Moffat, the benefit of the doubt and expecting amazing things and to fall in love with this Doctor as well. Couldn't be happier with the hands the show is in and can't wait to see what Moffat does as showrunner! It should be one helluva ride! -
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I forgot how good Eccleston was and was reminded, even with only three lines, of how great Tennant is. I think I may be even more bummed out now than I was earlier.
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"The Cure of Puberty"... 'nuff said
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I was a bit freaked when the new doctor turned up but I could see the level after about 10 seconds,and in my opinion that's the way the Doctor should be,this can run ;>,you lot are silly for real.I'm glad I delayed Clone wars on Sky+1 to be involved with the excitement.I hope the last doctor doesn't let the door hit him in the arse on the way out,nu era,let's go....Glad all that silliness is over with.More monsters & horror to disturb children and less camp silliness in 2010 please.
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downloaded via torrent.
watched first 20 minutes (and I'm quite proud I made it that far)
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probably the son of one of the jonas brothers
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Just promise them women.
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he looks like Crispin Glover with an even more oversized head? God I already miss TENnat.
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...if not Paul McGann (again), Jamie Davis, James Callis, or Colin Salmon. I'm serious...we better get a hot companion like Michelle Ryan or Jemima Rooper to make this more digestible. Man, if the Grand Moff is posting here, I'm sure he's having quite the time around his stomping grounds of Outpost Gallifrey. Sir, I worship you as a writing god, but this is making me shake my head. But based upon Moff's writing quality, we could have a George Lazenby in the role and it would still be top notched.
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...uhm, The Moff has talent and experience, unlike Obama. But thanks for bringing in American politics to a Whoniverse discussion. Obama will end up being a Harold Saxon; hopefully for our sakes he won't dance to The Scissor Sisters while ushering in the Apocalypse...
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Just thought I'd ask. The Moff posts under his own name at Outpost Gallifrey.
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Lurch (of the Addams family), and Stephen Morris of New Order.
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Nice pointing out no politics and then going on a rant. heh. As to saying maybe Moff was posting, I'd say that Donkey_Lasher has the edge on being the insider with his early call on the Matt Smith casting.
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Hey, he started it so since this is a Whoniverse discussion, I felt it proper to bring up the uncomfortable analogy that basically states that Obama is Harold Saxon. Think about it. People voted for the guy because it made them feel good. They don't know much about his past - much of it manufactured - and they had the hypnotic drums (the tap tap tap) going off via cell phones and other devices brainwashing them into voting for him [just as the media picked up on the meaningless "change" mantra that the candidate himself repeated every chance he got. Just re-watch those episodes and pay attention to Martha and Captain Jack explaining why they voted for Saxon. Still, that was coincidental since I don't think RTD is talented enough to be a soothsayer. That's quite a bit different than the upcoming History Channel special on the Apocalypse (which is available OnDemand now on Comcast) where the author of the *Left Behind* books describes how he thinks the Antichrist will be and it matches the POTUS-elect to a tee. I had a laugh at that. But never mind. And evilwizardglick, you omitted mention of Professor Chronotis, the Meddling Monk, and the Time Lord agent who met the 3rd Doctor to warn him that The Master was coming. So there's more than a few Time Lords that venture beyond the Kasterborus system.
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Freddie Highmore. And then an aborted fetus (explaining away the rebirth of new regens).
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Tennant has surpassed Tom Baker as my favorite doctor. It's really a shame that tennat couldn't have stuck around for Moffetts first season. I think Moffett could have added some depth to Tennant's Doctor and made better use of his acting abilities. I'm not sure what to think of this new Doctor, but I don't have high hopes.
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I hate little kids talking with the mouth of old wise men...
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What a load of wank.
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Jan 04, 2009 4:06:54 AM CST
When you're older than the Doctor you're in trouble...
by alucardvsdracula
Shit I feel old, even the BBC's Merlin series has him as a sixteen year old kid. What is going on? Need to sleep now.
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of past Doctors, apart from his age: fugly, ridiculous hair, half-charming/half-creepy.I sense the stages of grief; everyone's on step two -- anger. The Brits will end up at step 5: acceptance (like they did with Catherine Tate), eventually, as they venerate all things DW, even the aspects they hate.
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On the TV reveal they went on and on about how age doesn't matter when it comes to who plays the Doctor. So does that mean we'll one day see another doctor over the age of 40? No way - Who is now all about terrified ratings chasing Execs doing whatever they think it takes to keep the Tweenies watching. Who used to be a kid's show for everyone, but it looks as though they're turning it into just a kids show for kids. I'd like to be wrong, but i bet the 2010 scripts will aim exclusively at the Tweenies, with 'soapy', love-struck story arcs that are more Hollyoaks/90210 than Who... RIP. It's Moffat i feel sorry for - they get the best Who writer (maybe ever) running the show and the Execs handicap him a Tweenie Who that will force to write about 'Young Who', instead of 'Doctor Who'. Execs really suck...
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but it eneded up by having all its shows in the top ten. It has nothing more to lose or gain. 3 years from now the analog system is being switched off. if this series bombs and the ratings go through the floor. then in 2011 they can look at DR who and make a decision about whos future. It took a huge gamble by hiring an unknown. We will see whether it pays off. Moff created Press gang, one of the best youth dramas of the 1980s. He has a track record. with young actors.
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Smith was one of the first actors to audition for the role, and the production team immediately singled him out based on his performance. The BBC were cautious about casting him because they felt that a 26-year-old could not play the Doctor adequately; BBC Wales Head of Drama Piers Wenger shared the same sentiment, but noted that Smith was capable enough to play the role. Smith's casting in the role was revealed during a special episode of Doctor Who's companion show Doctor Who Confidential, during which he deemed it to be: "a wonderful privilege and challenge that I hope I will thrive on". Doctor Who's Executive Producer Steven Moffat praised Smith's audition, noting that he was impressed by Smith's "brand new take on the Time Lord".
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Dead Set (Brilliant Zombie apocolypse miniseries) and The Damned's recent CD; So Who's paranoid.Other than that.....
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beginning to feel that the character was beginning to retstrict his acting career. Over the last year, all the dr had become was ticks and mannerisms. I think that was the reason why Freema left also. I cannot say for certain. but her role was 1 dimensional and flat as a pancake. she must have felt that she her career was becoming restricted. I have a feeling that Chris eccelstone felt the same way which is why he bailed early. If you look at the way the whole thing was written from day one of RTDs tenure, the one criticism I have is that all the episodes were written with a beginning middle and end. Some were two parters. RTD was not good at those. Part one was always the best. part two was a let done. In the earlier Dr whos they used more outside locations as well as elstree studio. RTD used Cardiff. But used it over and over and over. I would like moffat to use more of wales. not just cardiff.
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someone had to say it.
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can be summed up thus. Episode one All characters are introduced and we get set up of the story. As we the viewer follow the story, it gets expanded, so we meet more characters, which may or may not develope the story. Each character has his or her own plot dynamic. The Dr is the main character in dr who. at some point he is given an assistant. But in RTDs tenure, we just had dr plus assistant and no other cast of characters that ever lasted more then one episode. They introduced torchwood to get that spin off series off the ground. More often the dr would turn fight some villain. new episode. new villain. even the master episodes were badly handled. Though I loved the quiet sinister way they re-introduced the character. Then Russell T davies, killed him off. and turned the Dr into Dobby the house elf, oh and a jesus figure to boot in the same ep. He killed off the daleks at the end of season 4 and Killed off the cybermen a couple of weeks ago at christmas. Good luck to the moff. I hope he gives Matt Smith better scripts to work with than Tennant had is his final year!
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Tennant had plenty to work with. The River Song eps and the final two eps alone gave him some terrific material.
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Jan 04, 2009 7:50:42 AM CST
And no other cast of characters lasting more than one ep?
by mr. zeddemore
4x12 and 4x13 disprove that. They brought back every important character the Doctor had met during NuWho (and Sarah Jane) and it took all of them to save the world.
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and it did take all of them to save the world. I agree with that. I found the nature and the manner of tennants departure really odd. and I was theorising on why he left. I know there was all that speculation at the start of season 4 which wasnt helped by catherine tate. I can undertand his itchy feet to move on and the raves he got as Hamlet. but wasnt there some talk that he got he the biggest deal of any dr who dr to stay. somewhere in the region 1.5 million. It was clearly his decision to leave and that is obvious. But a little rushed no? they way they announced his successor gives me the impression that he left them in the lurch. So they had to hurry to find his replacement. But kudos to the bbc for doing it the way they did. Normally in these things. the dr regenerates. there used to be a break to find his replacement. That would be announced on blue peter. the dr would regenerate into the new dr and by that stage we knew how it was. Tennants departure was very clusmisly handled. but on the paw as parsley says they probably did know and they begged him to stay which is why the offered him all that money. They did not want a repeat of the Chris eccelstone affair. so who knows what really happened. He is going to be a very hard act to follow.
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The elevnth dr. There was a the statement on the BBC that Smith got the role at christmas after tennant made his decision to stand down seems a little too rushed.
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I get the impression that he just wanted to move on. The old days of Doctors spending a really long time in the role was because they had a different take on seasons. Nowadays DT probably spends nine months solid on Doctor Who, and barely gets time to do anything else. So they tried to alter things with the four specials idea, but I guess he just felt it was too much.
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Well, seeing as everyone else that you don't care about is doing a top ten, here's another top ten from someone you don't care about!10. THE DOCTOR'S DAUGHTER9. THE DOCTOR'S DAUGHTER8. JOURNEY'S END7. THE FIRES OF POMPEI6. THE SONTARAN STRATEGEM5. THE STOLEN EARTH4. THE UNIVORN AND THE WASP3. MIDNIGHT2. SILENCE IN THE LIBRARY1. FOREST OF THE DEAD
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10 should be TURN LEFT.
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I have no idea what a Univorn is. Probably a cross between Vern and a Unicorn.
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... I have pubic hair older than this kid, for christsake.
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At the age of 26, assuming he's not half bad, he could play the role for a lengthy period of time without whining about the role holding him back. Plus the producers can dodge the impending and unavoidable "gee, did we say a timelord only gets TWELVE regenerations? That was a typo" conversation. Cause, after all, we all know that's coming.
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I'm gonna personally disembowel the next person who spells it with an "E" at the end.
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Jan 04, 2009 11:18:43 AM CST
So the "Doctor Who getting younger" idea is confirmed...
by royston lodge
I still would have preferred Rupert Grint, but this looks like almost exactly the idea that people were thinking about when Grint's name came up as a possibility. The only problem with this casting choice is that it sends such hugely obvious signals about what going to come in the future. It's a little too "on the nose". The future plot-lines almost write themselves.
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While it's true that canon has set that a Time Lord can regenerate 12 times, and the show has shown what happens to a Time Lord when they've reached their final regeneration, there is still plenty of ambiguity within canon to the limit. For one thing, The Master and other nefarious characters attempted underhanded and villainous methods to circumvent the limit. Presumedly, The Doctor wouldn't stoop to such depths but still it opens the door to the possibility that there are loopholes. More importantly, it was never established in canon whether the 12 regeneration limit was a function of a Time Lord's physiology, or if it was a limit enforced by Time Lord law (a la Logan's Run). Since the Time Lords are all gone, there is no Time Lord council on Gallifrey to enforce any Time Lord law on The Doctor. Regardless of what happens, when we do get to The Doctor #12 canon still gives the writers lots of room to maneuver. In fact, if it's done well there is lots of opportunity for dramatic tension. Does The Doctor even WANT to regenerate past #12? Do The Doctor's enemies (read, the Daleks) KNOW that a Time Lord can only regenerate 12 times, and are just waiting for him to use up his tickets before they can dominate the Universe? Or, what if it is just a Time Lord law and not physiological? On the one hand The Doctor is suffering from depression because he's the last of his kind, but on the other hand he can rest easy knowing that the proverbial crystal in his palm is never going to start glowing. What if he THEN finds out that he's NOT the last of his kind? What if there's still a Time Lord "government" hiding somewhere? Well, one would think The Doctor would be relieved that someone will be there to protect the Universe once he's gone for good. But then, what if that Time Lord government don't honour the same values that The Doctor holds dear? He was always a maverick amongst his own people, after all. There's lots of opportunity for great story-telling there, so I hereby throw cold water on those out there that think breaking the 12 limit is just a cop-out to save the BBC's cash cow. On the other hand, it could also be treated really really badly, by hack writers and shit producers. Luckily, I'm pretty used to that as a genre fan. I'll deal...
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Ecclescake didnt bail out early coz he was getting itchy feet,he only agreed to do the show for a year when he took the role - davies and the bbc knew that from the start. That is why tennant was offered the role before any of ecclestons episodes had aired. Tennant said that he had 3 years in mind when he started the job,which is about the average length of time the previous actors had served in the role(sans tom baker of course) As Tennant said with russell t davies and julie gardner leaving after the specials this was a natural stepping off point for him..the same thing happened after jon pertwee left and tom baker took over,barry letts was pertwees producer and head writer and when letts and pertwee left together a whole new production team took over with baker in the role so thisisn't uncommon in who lore. I'm still very nervous about Matt smith..not since colin baker have i had these feelings about someone in the role and we all know how colin baker turned out!..Just hope this isn't one of many future mistakes the Moff will make. Still think also they shouldd have carey mulligan back as sally sparrow..by far the assistant in waiting out there!! Also has anyone thought that tennant could re-enter the show at some point in a multiple doctors storyline or his half human offshot living with Rose? I woander if Davies wrote that in mind with an idea to a back door for tennant to come back in some capacity in the future? -
If Time Lord really are getting backi in series 5 (or ealier even, is Gallifrey "Planet of the Dead" ?), they could be pissed that The Doctor wiped them from the existence.
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as far as I know. That's why stories from novels that starred one Doctor can be reworked into TV stories for another (as with Human Nature in season 3).
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Another BBC show where they cast a lead actor who is clearly too young for the role - but who would have the girly appeal - and as such has no real gravitas or authority. Plus Robin Hood as a show is a total shower of fetid dogshit.
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...seriously, just look at the bloke. That foppish hair and pouty lips. Slap a bit of eyeliner on the bloke and give him the pick of Adam Ant's old wardrobe and turn him loose!Interesting choice, Mr. Moffat, I'm officially excited to see how it pans out. Still think you shoud've asked Bill Nighy though...Whatever happens, can we PLEASE have no more Billie Piper, ever? Thank-you. Oh, and bring back the Zygons. And the Sea Devils. Ta.
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matt smith too. but who knows they could be looking for a much darker dr. They might be trying to make him more militant.
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The dr was on his own. all the assistants had gone to do other things. He entered the Tardis alone. This new dr is going to be more rebellious. he is young, free spirited, but at the same time is a very cynical dr, edgy and a little bit battle hardned. He is a dr for the modern times. bit of a risk.
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wins the award for most irritating hairstyle in Earth's history. Also his mannerisms remind of Jeremy Davies.
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I know people are rightly passionate about Dr Who because he's a wonderful character etc, but this is a BBC1 Kids' Show. Battlestar Galactica it most definitly ain't.
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but what's the point of faking the accent? why not just speak with his own accent? is it a class problem? is his real accent not "posh" enough for the doctor? to me it's just switching one funny accent for another.
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Why is it that RTD and Moffat go out of their way to say great things about McGann's performance yet neither opted to hire him to continue the role? That's really douchie in my opinion. Especially RTD's comment about "a shame that we didn't see more of him" yet when RTD took over, he hired his favo(u)rite actor Eccleston instead. McGann would've been perfect to reprise the role and then be sent off at the end of S1. It would've had more meaning too because you would've had the war torn persona for an entire series to counter balance the last time we had seen the Doctor so exuberant with life. Mark my words, in ten years time, more people will think of RTD just as they did JNT. As much as I like Tennant, I really think McGann was perfect in the role for his limited engagement and he could have been the best Doctor ever had he continued in the role. I seriously hope The Doctor stops pining for Rose because it was absolutely ridiculous that she was the best companion ever. She was not as smart as Grace was, who was probably the smartest human female The Doctor ever had as a companion. I'm also tired of The Doctor being the last Time Lord. Bring back the Time Lords and make The Doctor a renegade once more. I think the regeneration rule is no longer in effect and the Time Lord High Council lifted it during the Time War. As it had been presented before, it was meant as a check against any Time Lords rising to Rassilon's stature and going batshit insane while in position of supreme authority. That's not to say that I want to see The Doctor regenerate all the time. I want consistency and I want it to feel like The Doctor doesn't have a get-out-of-jail-for-free regeneration card...I want a sense of danger that he may not survive even if he is near godlike. I like flawed godlike characters because it reminds me of the Greco-Roman and Norse interpretations of divinity. I want the new series in HD because if I am to spend $100 on a box set of 14 episodes, it better be on Blu-ray and in 1080p. And for gosh sakes, get a new Console Room that stands up to the fantastic Console Room from the TVM because the current one sucks. And new titles!
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I'm sure this new guy will be all right, but this casting is fairly uninspired. If they had actually cast Ejiofor in the part, it would have been interesting. Still, time will tell. If teh doctor is bad, I simply won't watch the show.
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with him being so young and so little work under his belt, he may not want to leave the role early. So, if the Moff-Master General, The Moff-Almighty thinks this guy is the best thing since sliced bread, then, everybody say, AMEN!!!
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that is who he reminds me of. def new romantic vibe of them. This guy is going to be all windswept, like heathcliff from wuthering heights.
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was rubbish. If he was the third auditionee. then think of how bad everyone else must have been. It was all top secret. He must have something special. or he would not have been cast.
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Matt Smith was the best in a bad bunch. AS these audtions went on the worse they became. Matt stood out a mile. I got from the Dr who confidential the eleventh dr. We dont know what they were looking for as it was all hush hush. But the casting directors knew what they the makers were looking for and he fit the bill.
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Prince Harry.
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looked like Chico and Harpo Marx's lost brother.
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a young fergal Sharkey
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gay love child of Crispin Glover,Tarantino,Flea,Henry rollins and KD lang. whoo..that's a giant noggin ya got there boi.
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I agree with you about the McGann thing kind of.
He was let down, as were Colin Baker and Sylvester mCCoy, by shit scripts and direction. I mean flying around on motorbikes, kissing ladies - it's just not done.
Well I mean, it is now, but you get my point.
It actually annoyed me that they showed so little of him, as if they were ashamed, yet went out of their way to praise him.
There was a lot of talk at one pount of having flashbacks to the Time War with McGann as a fucked up and angry warrior type (which would lead nicely into the new stuff with the almost-happily-genocidal Eccleston) but RTD and that lot apparently said Aw Hell No. Too bad, I like him as an actor and actually, I kind of like Eric Roberts as The Master
It's not as if McGann wants to distance himself from the character, they have him playing the Doctor on the BBC7 radio dramas. Dunno if there are any still on the iPlayer but there was a particularly weird one a while back which seemed to be based around the lyrics of Everyday Is Like Sunday -
I am not amused.
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I'm pretty much agreeing with everything you guys are sayin' here. Here's a fantasy: Make a big-screen Doctor Who: Time War movie directed by a bad ass action director and starring McGann.
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What the fuck is it with this ugly fucking kid? I don't need a fucking kid in this fucking show. Tenant was young enough. This is shit. I liked Christopher Eccleston, the best. The show hasn't been as good since he left. Tenant was good enough for me, but I just can't see liking this ugly fucking kid. Who the fuck spread the fucking rumor about Ejiofor and got me all excited? I'd like to fuck you in the ass with a baseball bat wrapped with barbed wire, you motherfucking, baby raping, cousin-licking, no-good nun-defiling pile of runny, corny shit. You build up my expectations and then we get this ugly fucking kid? Screw you.
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Goddamn, I'm so furious I can't even type. FUCK!
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Don't pull your punches, tell us what you really think.
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I'll try to be less tactful next time. Love your name.
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Thanks pal :-D Keep up the colorful work!!
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Come on someone!!! We need info!!!
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still say he would be the best for the part
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seems ok. I watched the Doctor Who Confidential episode "The Eleventh Doctor" and they showed clips of some of his other acting. I can see how he can portray the Doctor. I'm not sure about the emo hair though. I was not happy when I heard Eccleston was leaving but now I'm even sadder seeing Tennant going. He is now THE Doctor in my mind. Again, I will have to watch the 11th Doctor before I make up my mind.
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Jan 05, 2009 12:37:02 AM CST
why don't they improve the look of this show?
by dannyglovers_dickblood
I watched a few episodes of the current guy and its fucking atrocious. And not bad in a kinda cool/retro cheap sheik sorta way-- just really video/soap opera horribly diffused lighting British dog shit. Why would anyone watch or give a fuck about this? Its like if Americans were still raving about Quantum Leap.
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....Tennant had much better hair and much better crazy eyes.
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I'll tell you why. Last season's finale with Tennant and Tate was just one of the most heartbreaking things I've seen this year. Just really amazing stuff. If you're not a total douche, you'd see that. Tennant is fantastic and this kid has big shoes to fill. But if he was able to blow away Moffat (which apparently he did in the audition), I'm willing to give him a chance.
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The British aren't afraid to take chances unlike American TV. I grew up with the A-Team and Knight Rider. Cookie cutter shows where nothing really happened. Even today when they do something "shocking" it's more for ratings then to tell a story. I mean they stop playing new episodes the week before a holiday. I would have LOVED a special X-Mas episode of "The Master" (anyone else remember THAT show?). But now thanks to the PC world we can't have a X-Mas special. It would be a "winter" special or something. The BBC has balls. I may need to move. Or get a faster connection to torrent all the great shows.....
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Jan 05, 2009 2:03:43 AM CST
the BBC has balls to air shows with that quality of CG...
by dannyglovers_dickblood
....fuck me is that some fucking terrible shit. Alex Mack had better effects.
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... over 90% of the superficial crap that looks like a film that comes out of America.
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Especially considering how ambitious it is. Have you ever seen an American TV show attempt anything on the scale of "giant steampunk robot destroying old London" or "Huge building sized Devil inside asteroid" or whatever crazy shit they come up with. (different CGI creatures and settings week after week) No. We only see the same three spaceship CGI models in every fucking episode. Really cutting edge there Battlestar Galactica/Stargate/Farscape. The writing may be crap sometimes on Who, and it is cheesy as fuck (which is a good break for me)but the effects and designs are awesome.
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...he never gets any sex, on account of always being angry about movies and TV shows. It's a vicious circle.
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the CG is fucking atrocious as well as the overall production values. They need to shoot at 24 frames second with FILM or a higher def camera and they need to stick to episodes like Girl in the Fireplace that was all practical and avoid shit like the werewolf episode. There is a reason that American shows don't rely CG -- they know they don't have the money to do it well.
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The Girl In The Fireplace wasn't all practical.
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Best Who since Tom Baker, no question.
Frankly, it's annoying there's another change.
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and Human Nature shit over 90% of cinema releases. Go watch Blink now. Be amazed.
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I dunno, I fucking love the CGI the mill does for them. That werewolf was great for a TV show. Granted, right now I don't own big ass HD tv to make the faults obvious. To each his own I guess.
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I think that he will do just fine. I am sensing a Tom Bakeresque portrayal of the character.
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Ok, I understand that he is the last Timelord.... Now go get the Key of Time and unlock the Time Lock and bring back your peeps at Gallifrey.
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Do some of you not actually read the talk back before posting?Do you think your words are so important that we should all hear them 3 or 4 times?.Or like a lot of haters are you just thick?Someone even misspelt 90210 above, hello?, that's retard levels of dumbness.He is young actor, we got it, please deal, or reveal your true hater nature and be done with the fib of being an open minded science fiction fan and let us all see your really just action movie fans pretending to like sci-fi to get chicks.
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If you've watched the DOCTOR WHO CONFIDENTIAL interview, you can tell Smith has a natural quirkiness that should serve his Doctor well. And yes, he's young (about 7 years younger than Davison was when he started) but at least he seems enthusiastic about the gig.
Following a definitive Doctor like David Tennant's is hard enough as it is, but with Steven Moffat handling the majority of the scripts as showrunner, Smith has a decent shot at greatness. I'm rooting for him and I hope others do the same.
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Like a 12 foot multi-colored scarf.
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That is unless the powers that be give him a fresh set of lives a la The Master...
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I have many faults with this show (I thought Blink was insanely overrated), but 'naff' CGI isn't one of them. It may not be perfect, but seeing things like the Daleks attacking in mass is awesome regardless..
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I have many faults with this show (I thought Blink was insanely overrated), but 'naff' CGI isn't one of them. It may not be perfect, but seeing things like the Daleks attacking in mass is awesome regardless..
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You mean that Lee Van Cleef ninja series?!? Fucking MARVELLOUS!!! I used to watch it back in the mid-to-late 80s on UK TV about midnight, midweek (I think Wednesdays). Fucking awesome stuff! WHY ISN'T IT OUT ON DVD YET?!?!?!?!?
As for the Christmas vs Happy Holidays thing... the thing that REALLY pisses me off about THAT particular PC bollocks is that the people that the right-meaning-liberals don't want to offend AREN'T FUCKING OFFENDED! The only person I have EVER met in all my working life who was offended by Christmas was...
drum roll please...
An Indian Jehovah's Witness.
Yep. One solitary person. I have Muslim friends who celebrate Christmas (most people aren't aware Jesus Christ is kind of a minor big deal to the Muslims: he's a prophet in Islam), Hindu friends who do, Mormons, Seventh Day Adventists, Catholics, Christians of all denominations, and even a Satanist (who does so because he enjoys it, but more importantly, so does his wife). But no, some self-important moral guardian-type middle-to-upper class suffering post imperialist guilt white person will have come up with this let's-kill-Christmas idea, so as not to offend people who aren't fucking offended to begin with (and it never crosses the mind of these bleeding-heart liberals to actually ASK ANYONE IF THEY ARE OFFENDED - might offend 'em, see), and the idea gets taken up because there are more of these morons in Government than there are sensible people, and so a huge swathe of the population gets to miss out on the full glory of THEIR religious festival, because in the West these days political correctness seems to mean bowing to and accomodating every religion EXCEPT Christianity! GAAAAHHHHHH!!! How is it okay to offend Christians but obody else?!?!? GAAAAHHHHH!!!!
As you can tell, this particular point bothers me somewhat. On a lighter note, I think Matt Smith will do just fine, although I hope Moffat was joking when he mentioned the hair as something he should ACTUALLY FUCKING CARE ABOUT! I thought that's what hair and make-up were there for? Ah well.
Peace. And DannyGlover - we in the UK have a long and proud history of doing world-shattering sci-fi drama with no fucking SFX bidget whatsoever. See THREADS, the original SURVIVORS, THE STONE TAPE, SAPPHIRE & STEEL, The QUATERMASS CONCLUSION - any number of awesome UK SF TV programmes from the 70s. The SFX may be shitty, but the drama therein isn't even close to being surpassed, even today... -
Because if you flip-mode-back-and-reverse it, and say that SFX > Story in SF, what do you get?
THE STAR WARS PREQUELS.
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Give me a break. I hate CG overkill as much as the next guy and I can't stand greenscreen environments. No one is saying thats what it should become. I'm just saying for fuck's sake-- show a little compassion to the eyes of the audience and make your shit look somewhat presentable. Do they have Sarah Palin's retarded infant doing the visual effects? I mean, seriously I have seen CG in student thesis projects thats better. I'm not bullshitting. I can't believe these are professional effects houses doing this work. Like the CG of that giant Wasp/Bee or whatever it was.....oh my GOD!! I'm not saying add more CG. I'm saying write around your resources. In fact, have LESS CG because these fucks obviously don't have taste to judge what is and isn't broadcast quality.
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That show was GREAT! I watched it every week hoping they would use Ninja Stars. It will be on DVD eventually....
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Yes, that Wasp was shit... but the Dalek stuff in 412/413 was fucking awesome.
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Dear Steven Moffat..
A know that you have taken a big risk in casting the new dr who. Matt Smith. I loved Press Gang. and I have no doubt that you have what it takes to be a great dr who Writer and team leader. Which Is why I was shocked when I read that you were tipping the Singer and media/talking gob Lilly Allen. Please, Please, Please Mr moffat though you might think it might be fun to have someone like lilly as the dr assistant it would be anything but. I do know it is now your show and you can cast anyone u like. I would urge that you dont cast lilly Allen. -
to be dr whos new assistant. God I hope not.
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Smith is only three years younger than Davison was when he started.
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Then we can go to happy land where the gumdrop forest resides.
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I'm a fan of hers, but don't think she would do something like this or even take it serious.
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Someone said that he started in the 80s on Who, that was Peter Moffat. I think Steven's first Who was the comic relief special in the late 90s.
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know. Before the weekend we had never heard of Matt smith. The reaction has been mixed. SO i think his new assistant will be someone we dont know. so Sally sparrow fans, I wouldnt get your hopes up. They are going to wipe the slate clean so to speak.
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which I doubt. Lets hope she brings the allen fire with her.
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I'll meet you in the middle there Danny - I think new Who could benefit from less CG and more practical FX. The best episodes such as BLINK and HUMAN NATURE seem to be the ones where more is either left to the imagination or done with ezxcellent prosthetics and/or costumes - which are things the Beeb does waaaaaaay better than SFX. They don't have either the budget or the time to do SFX on a par with BSG, LOST or even something like BUFFY, so I'm never going to expect brilliant SFX from Who unless there's a movie made some time. But yeah... the wasp was shit, though not half as shit as the pink-light-plus-hammy-acting-equals-transformation shite that happened just before said wasp appeared at the end.
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You are a fan of keiths Daughter, then?
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Sorry Zedd - I have to disagree on the Daleks. Whenever you see them in fleets, they're too geometrically correct to look as if they have independent intelligence, and when they act completely uniformly it's as if the SFX crew couldn't be arsed to program them with any independent thought. Contrast the Dalek fleets with the sort of stuff we saw on the FIREFLY TV show (awe-inspiring stuff from Zoic) or the fantastic battles on BSG (again, nice work Zoic) and it all falls down.
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FACK OFF! FACK RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT OFF!!!!!
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No, my post was the first inkling of this driving me insane.
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Bring dat hotness!!!
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You explain yourselves well, but to be honest I'm the laziest Who viewer ever. Half the time, I don't concentrate enough to really analyse the effects beyond 'cool.'
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I've only seen the last episodes of the last two. Which old one was the best....and are they available on DVD?
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Jan 05, 2009 3:56:15 PM CST
The Firefly effects in the pilot were great....
by dannyglovers_dickblood
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Jan 05, 2009 3:59:44 PM CST
the producer of Phil Collinson should have been cast...
by dannyglovers_dickblood
....as The Doctor. He fits the part.
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In a low cut black t-shirt. Tight fitting jeans. I could live with that. and make her a little ambigous. ie her character good be either good or bad. that would be a new departure. so if Smith doesnt work out, he could be betrayed by her. and then have another regeneration. may be ben wishaw. He is a really talented young actor. His macbeth got raves.
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or I'm out - like I was when they brought on the screaming bitch from hell in that Christmas episode that had me throwing things at the TV and I haven't watched an episode since - that includes this River Phoenix episode everyone keeps raving on about (isn't he dead??)...
RTD leaving gave me hope the show may yet still come good but they obviously STILL don't know dick about casting - and that shit can make ALL the difference between loyal fan and... meh... couldn't give a toss...
I give em ONE episode to get rid of the fat whore and show me that the kid who knows nothing about War except what he's seen on the TV, who's never seen Hard Times like, say Thatcher's England, can deliver a Doctor who's out the other end of a Time War that saw the complete destruction of his entire race and worse...
Maybe he's got the acting chops - shit maybe he's the next Johnny Depp or something - but he better bloody deliver or this show will have lost ALL appeal!
(and yes I know it's a kid's show but I would hope the producers understand making it JUST for the kids - like the SW Prequel/Clone War crap or, say, the Thunderbirds movie - that shit don't please anyone and it ain't gonna fly) -
Prefered choices for "old" Doctors: James May, Rick Mayall, John Lydon. "Young" Doctors: Ben Whishaw, The guy who plays Merlin on BBC1, The guy who played Sean in Eastenders - A British Heath Ledger if ever there was one.
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Never mind the crappy CGI, the important thing about that episode was that that chick fucked a giant wasp.
She fucked a giant wasp
I mean come on, we've all been drunk but Jesus -
Jan 05, 2009 7:24:36 PM CST
2 days later the no eybrows thing is starting to bug me....
by thecomedian
And everybody I talk to outside the internet have all said it's strange too. I keep trying to use "well he is an alien" excuse but in my heart I know it just looks weird. I does lend itself for a great post-regeneration moment. Maybe the Doctor will look in the mirror and say "Well, I guess that's what I get for making fun of the Mona Lisa." You "City of Death" fans get the joke I'm sure.
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is a brilliant actor. I have seen him on stage (in the most successful play of last year) and on screen and met him in person. He will be great. Emeraldboy, before you go naming people, know what the f*ck you're talking about. Ben Whishaw was in HAMLET 3 years ago. Macbeth? ffs, grow a brain before you express an opinion. Much like a lot of the kneejerk idiots that have surfaced recently.
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sux for doctor who fans. but not for stargate fans.
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Me thinks they'll darken up his eyebrows like how Seth Green has to do in everything post-Buffy.
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Or both at the same time. You have now peered into Lynxpro's mind...and throw in Monica Bellucci for good measure.
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Best season of old Doctor Who has to be season 14. With the episodes: Masque of Mandragora, The Hand of Fear, The Deadly Assassin, The Face of Evil, The Robots of Death, & The Talons of Weng-Chiang. The best Doctor (Tom Baker) with the best stories. Should be available on DVD I'd think (since the episodes are still aired).
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With dark, moody, brainy beauts like Pyramids of Mars, Brain of Morbius, Terror of the Zygons, and Seeds of Doom but I believe Mr. Dicksblood was asking about previous Who decent stories in this meterosexual-revamp-kiddie-intelligence insulting travesty of which there are none.
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Ben Wishaw. or nicholas Hoult. or at a future juncture. Micheal Sheen.
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Shakespeare play, I just couldnt recall which one it was.
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With Peter Cushing is Channel 4. The one with bernie Cribbins. Invasion Earth. The production values on it are outstanding. possibly explains why the bbc havent made a full length feature film. It must have cost them a fortune to make these films.
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Word.
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First 2 22 episode seasons with Samuel L Jackson as the Doctor
"Get these %*$#@*!'ing Daleks off my %*$#@*!'ing Tardis"
Followed by 2 22 episode season of Tom Cruise as The Doctor
"You don't know time, I know time!"
Throw in the glib quote and his scowlyness stands to be the best Doc yet -
They do look fantastic, even on the DVDs. I would love to have them restored and on Blu-ray. I think they were shot in Technicolor. But they aren't canon since they were remakes of already existing television episodes. A cinematic Doctor Who film today would have to be within continuity featuring either the "current" Doctor or a popular former Doctor.
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How terrified viewers must have been at the openingshot in black and white of the first daleks emerging from the river thames. I know they looked rubbish. William Hartnell was 55 at the time when he made Dr. who. Apparently he was very tempremental man. The BBC found him very difficult to work with.
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That's a fugly motherfucker with a huge noggin. God DAMN! Not that previous Doctors haven't been ugly but he's gotta have some kind of charisma to make me not get sick when I watch the show. Fuck.
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What an odd thing to stress about, oh no his eyebrows, pff. http://tinyurl.com/9dwq6q
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Amy Chasing was spot on in picking season 14 as the best Who season. Watch The Robots of Death and The Talons of Weng-Chiang. The best Who story of all time is The Caves of Androzani, from Season 21, Peter Davison's final story.
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In fairness, no eyebrows is a bit of a weird look for ANYOE to have, let alone this dude. But to each their own.
On the upside, the Spud will reserve judgment until seeing the man in action. He has that weird, intense-yet-playful charisma going on, and that strange heed... I dunno, maybe we have our first properly alien-looking Doctor!
Knock yourself out, Smashing. I think you may enjoy this season even more than I know Axcel1 will ;P -
There sort of wispy towards the ends and blonder making them appear not there.Roll on the Smith.
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I think Moffat's episodes so far actually topped it though. Moffat is the new Robert Holmes.
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Fuck off, mate. See if BSG is still running in 45 years!
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That he doesn't have any eyebrows. He has maybe two thirds of one eyebrow, if you add up what he does have.
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Nicholas Hoult? I hope you're joking. Possibly the most dead-eyed, useless actor around. Have you seen Wah-Wah? Ruined the movie through his rubbishness. Ben Whishaw would be great, but he and Sheen are both off to hollywood.
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The proof in the pudding is in the eating, which we will all be doing in 2010, 'nuff said.
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Jan 07, 2009 9:08:45 PM CST
They should get Mischa Barton to be the companion for one season
by thecomedian
She IS English and her American Film & TV career is kinda in limbo right now. I've got no problem with the Doctor falling in love yet again and she's aces over Lilly Allen or some eastenders reject. Call her agent BBC!
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The bbc will not hire her after her comments about taking cocaine. Which she said it was her right do so.
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Her fledgling acting career is bust.
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...is that it's largely personal taste. The "classic" actors who played him have each had such distinctive styles. I'd recommend to any Who fan renting one story from each Doctor, and you'll know which one you want to follow.
It seems to be fashionable these days to bash the old Who in favor of the "sophisticated" new Who, but I've never bought into that. Dogging the old Who for its primitive effects or costumes is kind of like saying "I, Claudius" is poor because it had a small budget and was filmed on video.Sure, there are plenty of "monster enters, girl screams" moments, but there's also some incredibly imaginative stuff and some wonderful acting, too. Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker, especially, breathed so much life into the character, and could go from playing it broadly to a nuance that no one since has managed.Speaking of Baker, I've been annoyed at all the recent big parts he's been in the running for and not been given. I think he could have been a wonderful Gandalf (nothing against McKellen, who was brilliant) and an even better Dumbledore (he stands head and shoulders above the actors who've played the part in terms of his range from whimsy to unnerving alienness). -
of the history boys which also included James Cordon and Russell Tovey. Tovey was hyped By RTD as a potential Dr who. That play changed the life of that cast beyond measure.
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Sacha Dawan, 24
James Corden, 30
Andrew Knott, 29
Jamie Parker, 29
Dominic Cooper, 30
Samuel Barnett, 28
Russell Tovey, 27
Samuel Anderson, 24
and matt Smith 26... also part of the original cast was the boring ben barnes whose decision to quit was met with fury by the national . Here is a little more about smith....
succeed David Tennant as Dr Who, becoming the youngest actor to take the part. Toby Whale, who picked Smith to play Lockwood in the first cast change of The History Boys, said he was a "terrific" choice for the 11th Doctor. "I was thrilled for him," Whale said. "I know how hard he works, I know how he good is, and I have every confidence in him."
Smith had ambitions to be a professional footballer, but gave up because of a back injury. He joined the National Youth Theatre, acted at the Royal Court and went on to the National Theatre.
Has returned to the Royal Court in the award-winning That Face and starred opposite Christian Slater in Swimming With Sharks in the West End. His TV work includes The Ruby in the Smoke and The Shadow in the North, and lead roles in the Bafta award-winning The Street and the political drama Party Animals
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the national is the national theatre, which is based on the south bank of london and is home to the olivier Theatre. and is also home to the nation film school. That is where I saw Sir Paul Schofield in john Gabriel bjorkman and its one of The impressive theatre buildings I have been.
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