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Rick McCallum and his comments about the next INDIANA JONES movie this morning in London

Pac Man just got back from a press conference about 3 hours ago in LONDON this morning, and sent in this report about what was said. Interesting bits about the speculation of what to do on a 'STAR WARS EPISODE ONE DVD'. It'd be nice to have the other films out first (in both regular and special edition formats!) But enough of that, on to the eater of Pinky...

Hi Harry,

Love the site, I'm a long time reader but have never found any information to tell you about, until now.

Just got back to the office from a press conference hosted by Lucasfilm/Lucasarts, held over here in London at the Fox office. Present were Jack Sorenesen (President of Lucasarts), Jake Lloyd and Rick McCallum (sorry, don't know how to spell his surname).

The whole point was to talk about the videogames and crossover stuff between the two media, how the games compliment the movie, and Jake Lloyd going on about how he's so good at the games, but he enjoyed being in the movie more than seeing himself in a game.

A long Q and A session followed where people were asking about DVD, PlayStation 2 and stuff, Rick said they wanted to wait and see how DVD develops before they enter the market, and then to unleash an amazing package. He said they had something like 700 hundred hours of behind the scenes footage, which they wanted to edit down to something like 30, but they'd prefer all the extra stuff to sit on one disk.

Blah, blah, blah lots more boring questions, standard answers, and then the PR women broke up the talk, and said Rick and Jack had to go. But they were up for more questions so conducted some little one-on-one interviews, Rick was besieged by a bunch of people asking him about the Star Wars experience. He seemed quite keen and open to talking about everything, and as in the talk beforehand he was dismissing everything on the internet left, right and centre when this one fella from some computer magazine or another asks him about Indy IV. and here's what he said...

"We've got a fantastic script, and everyone really wants to do it. We've now got to wait for everyone to be free, George is tied up as you know, Steven is busy for a couple of years, and Harrison is commited for the next 18 months. But the script is great and age is not a problem. I think we'll get it together in about three or four years."

And being as this little presentation was about games and the crossover This bloke then asked Rick if Atlantis would play a part in the movie. He leans back, and dramatically gets cryptic...

"Watch the stars, and watch the desert"

And that's all he said.


I've already told a bunch of friends, and we all reckon it's got to have something to do with Egypt, the Pyramids, and the Sphinx and stuff.

And it looks like it'll be set quite a few years after the last movie, to allow for Harrison to age gracefully.

I don't know if it's much, but I've waited for years for this movie, and after hearing it from someone who knows what's going on, it just makes it more appetising. I can't wait!

call me...

Pac man

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  • July 14, 1999, 5:35 a.m. CST

    It's about time!

    by Firehawk

    Raiders of the Lost Ark has still been my favourite movie throughout the years and now I'm glad that they've finally settled some issues in making another film. I'm still patiently waiting to get a DVD version of Raiders though, so I'll have to "watch the stars" on that one.

  • July 14, 1999, 5:45 a.m. CST

    DVD translation

    by 0007

    I do not know about anyone else, but as far as the Star Wars saga goes, I think the DVDs should be the MOST comprehensive versions hands down. That means in addition to the movies themselves (which would be a complete platter of both the THX remastered versions and the special editions-thus allowing one to assemble the film according to personal taste-or just by hitting a menu bar "Standard" or "Special Edition"-seeing them in those respective formats without having to pick and choose scenes. Also, not only would there be the whole 30 hrs. worth of behind the scenes material, but ALSO the "Making of Star Wars" special from 1977, and the "Classic Creatures special", plus the "From SW to Jedi" and "George Lucas: The Myth and Magic" specials. To top it all off would be the SW: Behind the Magic disc, previously only on CD-ROM and containing the most comprehensive and exhaustive look at the SW universe possible as well as the coveted Biggs scenes. But this version would also contain the sandstorm scene from Jedi, as well as the Wampa room scene from Empire. This entire boxed set would probably comprise five discs, but would be the final, most ingratiating look at the first trilogy of Star Wars possible. One might opt to include the SW Holiday Special, but we all know Lucas would never authorize that!

  • July 14, 1999, 5:45 a.m. CST


    by Anti-fanboy

    Can't they show some support for the burgeoning DVD format. I mean, come on guys, it's a success already--get with it!

  • July 14, 1999, 5:46 a.m. CST

    Watch the stars?

    by TelstarMan

    Oooh, this could be the rumored H. P. Lovecraft/Indiana Jones thing...of course, it'll probably wind up being Roswell cause there's stars and desert there too, and that's hip right now. I'm still holding out hope that we'll see "Indiana Jones and the Rise of R'lyeh". I think that was the rumored HPL title. Of course, it could all wind up being one of those rumors people make up.

  • July 14, 1999, 5:51 a.m. CST

    I heard it was called...

    by JJ McClure

    Indiana Jones and the Girth of John Rhys-Davies.

  • July 14, 1999, 6:23 a.m. CST

    indiana jones . . . the revenge?

    by fonebone

    I'm not getting my hopes up. I thought the last one was god-awful. If they could return to the flavor of the first one, with perhaps a Mayan or Aztec setting, then I'd love to see it. But I don't know many "Part IV"s that have lived up to expectations.

  • July 14, 1999, 6:50 a.m. CST

    Sounds like a long wait, but sound good

    by Mike D

    Did Lucas write the script? I wonder...oh, well. The key statement was that "age will not be a factor." That tells me right there that this thing will definitely get done. Like they said, it's just a matter of The Big 3's schedules freeing up. I'm sure we won't see this thing for at least another five years or so, but hey, it's better than not getting to finally see it at all.

  • July 14, 1999, 6:52 a.m. CST

    The Desert and the stars

    by Man0waR

    Is it possible it might involve the whole corallation between the placement of the great pyramids in Giza and the stars in Orions Belt?

  • July 14, 1999, 7:13 a.m. CST

    Big schedules ahead!

    by fabian

    Whoooaaaa - the next decade is going to blast! 1999 - SW Ep. I Phantom Menace 2000 - ? 2001 - Lord of the Rings, Vol. I 2002 - SW. Episode II ("Gun Gun Crusaders of the truly awesome force thingee"?) Winter 2002 - Lord of the Rings, Vol. II 2003 - Lord of the Rings Vol. III 2004 - Indy IV ("Indiana Jones vs. the alien from the desert") 2005 - Star Wars Episode III ("Demise of the Republic and Gun guns") ...anyone wants to add...?

  • July 14, 1999, 7:17 a.m. CST

    On Indy and Big HPL

    by fabian

    ....I don't think it would work unless cinematography gets back to the fist Indy movie. That jungle introductory scene still gives me shivers. You can't do Lovecraft unless the characters are unbelievably serious, deep, and depressing <JOKE> plus did I mention there's always this incest theme in HPL? ...and Harrison Ford and Sean Connery in a father-and-son love fest?... OH COME on.... </JOKE>

  • July 14, 1999, 7:28 a.m. CST

    Super Duper...

    by Dash Riprock

    I am so glad that the big three (Lucas, Spielberg, and Ford) have decided to get back together on this character. All three of them have such an obvious fondness for it that it would be a shame for INDY IV to fall by the wayside. Personally, I've always thought that it should be about an older Indy, you know forced back into the old adventure game for one reason or another. Considering Ford's age (he turned 57 yesterday and no one on this site mentioned it - TURN IN YOUR GEEK MEMBERSHIP CARDS AT THE DOOR!) such a tale would be more than appropriate. I just hope that they all heve something that they want to bring to the character. I know that it is supposed to be a modern day "serial" but in each film we've gotten to know the good Dr. Jones just a little better. Here's hoping that they stay FAR FAR away from Roswell, although that would be about the right time period wouldn't it? Thus far, Indy has met only mystical adversaries, and frankly, I don't know how well he'd mesh with a techno story. Excalibur would be cool. Can you imagine our man Indy wielding the sword....whoa. But the best story I've heard to far is the Atlantis deal. Lots of poetential there for sure. I'm thinking they'll bring in the communists to serve the ever-present NAZI role. Well, I guess time will tell.

  • July 14, 1999, 7:29 a.m. CST

    Paramount and DVD

    by spike lee

    I have $300 dollars ready to purchase a DVD player when Paramount decides to support the format. Paramount was the best studio in the 70's and maybe the 80's as well. Here is a little wish list. Saturday Night Fever, Godfather 1 and 2, Chinatown, Bad News Bears, Days of Heaven, Footloose, Grease, Urban Cowboy, Friday the 13th amd series, Conversation, North Dallas Forty, Indiana Jones, and Nashville.

  • July 14, 1999, 7:32 a.m. CST

    PART 4'S

    by LiquidNitrate

    Since when do Part IV's disappoint the audience? As I recall, opening night crowds wept with rapturously grateful applause for both Police Academy 4 Citizens On Patrol with Sharon Stone, and Superman Quest for Peace with Jon Cryer as Lex's evil nephew Lenny Luthor. Seriously, though, despite what nice things Rick may say about the next Indy, remember his buzzing praise about TPM's wonderful script, and how much we were all disappointed to realize he was just being George's PR stooge. What if "stars" and "desert" mean we're in for some Emmerich-style copying of Emmerich with Lucasfilm doing "Indy SG-1 meets Contact"? Only if IV does something fresh and new and original with the series' formula will I be pleased...Last Crusade seemed like too much going-thru-the-motions paint-by-numbers regurgitation of Raiders with each elements just slightly altered from the 1981 versions. Since they'd already confirmed that Sean Connery would be returning (nice idea the first time, but now this is getting distracting like Pesci in Lethal Weapon), will we still see Selleck or Costner as Indy's brother? What if the myterious otherworldy being turns out to be Jar-Jar?

  • July 14, 1999, 7:49 a.m. CST

    "We named the dog, Indiana!"

    by Uncapie

    Please, no irritating little kids kids "Ground Round". For that matter, no irritating female characters like, Mrs. Spielberg. No silliness, Dr.Jones! Bring back Marion and Henry Jones!

  • July 14, 1999, 7:54 a.m. CST

    Indy IV will not involve Roswell

    by Musgrave

    See above.

  • July 14, 1999, 8 a.m. CST

    DVD - GET WITH IT- NOW!!!!

    by Darth_Tarquin

    All of this talk about the MOST COMPREHENSIVE version of the movie for the DVD format is wonderful. I woulod buy it in a heartbeat - as would millions of other fans.... but isn't there a bit of hyprocrisy in all of this? I mean how many versions of these movies are currently in circulation on other formats? VHS - counting packaging and realease variations it's got to be close to 10! And Laserdisc is not that far behind!!!! It's about time that Lucasfilm Ltd. & Fox put out a barebones Movie only version of the original Trilogy! If they want to release an Archival or Collectors Edition anytime in the next 6 years. Fine! I'll buy both!

  • July 14, 1999, 8:07 a.m. CST

    Lovecraft, Roswell, and Indy

    by not_a_jedi_yet

    Do you people really think that Indy IV will have anything to do with Lovecraft or Roswell? Sheesh, let's review something here...NOBODY KNOWS ANYTHING YET. I have a great idea- let's start rumors and see who falls for it. How about "Hey, did you hear that Jar-Jar's going to be in Indiana Jones IV? Yep, I read it on the Internet. It's 'Indiana Jones on the Gungan Frontier.' Nope, I'm not kidding. I hear Ahmed Best has already been approached, and ILM has done some test footage with Harrison Ford. Apparently Indy goes off in search of the lost Gungan underwater city, and it turns out to be Atlantis! Could be interesting!" People, people, people, pointless speculation is the enemy. The title of this site is "Ain't It Cool News" not "Ain't it Cool Musings By People Who Believe Everything They Hear."

  • July 14, 1999, 8:09 a.m. CST

    Yeah! Marion!

    by fabian

    Bring'er back! We've seen Indy's childhood, we've seen him with Adolf, *now finally give us at least a flashback with the basic story of Marion and her dad*! Then again, if it's all about desert and stars - will they be able to avoid a) the ever returning Indy Nazi Clichee [which added so much to the entertainment value of Indy I and III] and b) the pharao topic; since they burned that oil in Raiders (and StarGate) well enough. After "The Mummy", Indy just shouldn't go there. Nope. Would suck. Then again, Indy only really looks good in that environment of a barren poor hot dry wasteland, so what else is there....

  • July 14, 1999, 8:18 a.m. CST


    by StuEdwards

    ...Indy and Jar Jar Binks? Test footage? This movie's gonna be sooooo coooelll....I'll just raise my expectations to a ridiculous level, and then gripe when the film comes out and doesn't meet my incredibly high expectations ;-)

  • July 14, 1999, 8:56 a.m. CST

    My script and Dash Rip Rock?

    by PENGUIN77

    Aaargh... they should use the script my friend and I wrote -- desert, angels and Baria instead of desert and stars. Also Dash Rip Rock? The eclectic alt-rockabilly band?

  • July 14, 1999, 9:16 a.m. CST

    I think he means Roswell

    by Whitey

    When McCallum said "watch the skies, watch the desert." Think about it -- there were stories of an Indy/Roswell script floating around out there. Makes sense, too, considering Ford will be quite old by the time this gets made and Roswell happened many years after the original trilogy was set. It's that or some kind of Chariots of the Gods type thing, you know, like those Spider-Monkey rock formations in the wide open vistas of S. America that can only be seen from the sky so that means ancient people were visited by aliens, blahblah blah. But since religion is a major part of the Indy films, maybe he means the star the wisemen followed when Jesus was born or Elijah coming back to earth or The Book of Revelations. Anything's possible.

  • July 14, 1999, 9:19 a.m. CST

    Or it could also mean

    by Whitey

    the star (some say spacecraft, serious!) that Moses followed while leading the Hebrews through the desert after their liberation, looking for the Promised Land. Would make a nice bookend to finding the Ark in the first film. Like I said, anything is possible.

  • July 14, 1999, 9:54 a.m. CST

    If it's an alien storyline,...

    by r_dimitri22

    ...then I give up. Indiana Jones and spacecraft do not mix.

  • July 14, 1999, 10:16 a.m. CST


    by Hotspur

    Indy and spaceguys ? now that wouldn't be pretty. But I guess Spielberg has made enough movies about those little fellows so I wouldn't bet on it. Saturday Night Fever, Grease, Indy trilogi, Star Wars trilogi ? I have em' all on LaserDisc. So forget about those fucking (sorry) DVD's! DVD serves only one purpose. To make more money!

  • July 14, 1999, 10:24 a.m. CST

    30 Year Super Duper Collector's Set Xmas 2007-8

    by Ranger1138

    Okay...Let's get real here with the "It has to have" stuff. The THX LaserDisc box set was going to have tons of cool extras including deleted scenes but was pulled at the last second so the Special Editions would fair well. So now, those of us who have the set has this wonderful book all about George and the original trailers. The second audio comentary was pretty poor. Next, Lucas is not sold on the foramt yet. mainly for one of the reasons a fellow poster has mentioned. Reissuing is Disney's bread and butter. If you own the Lion King...You own the Lion King. You don't need to replace after numerous viewings. That scares the hell out of major studios that love to put things on moritorium. Lucasfilm does the exact same thing. Also, we all know that there was footage left out of all seven film releases of the movies. [ Ep1, Ep 4 and it's special Edti, etc ] and you don't think thee won't be a major push for the rererelease of the whole thing in 2008? The 30 anviersry special edition definative collector's Fanboy droolcup inside version of the film? C'mon. Let's look at it from the money stand point. As far as the Classic versions of the trilogy goes...Lucas has stated before that they are no longer going to be reissued. That's why they were pullled form most videostores. I agree with Spike for a change about Paramount. They were known for shoty LD transfers and sometimes the DVD versions look like they were taken from those same LDs. Not surprising from a studio who treats their masters like dirt. They threw away the letterbox extra footage of the first Star Trek movie thinking that no one would want it later on. Now I know that in the grand scheme of things that it is no real big loss with that pic but that gives you an idea on how the big Mountain deals with such matters. Lastly, I have to admit...I bought the "Behind the Magic" with my wife's EB discount just for the Biggs footage. Now I understand why he left it out. In most cases I would say write the studios, snail mail, and let them know how you feel about the DVD releases and what you want in them, however, to some studios that won't matter a bit. A Paramount distributor once told me that I should be happy that I got my LD's in widescreen in the early 90's since there was a push to release the films once rather than two copies, wide and P&S, of the same movie. The vote was very close to go only one way and you know which one that was.

  • July 14, 1999, 10:28 a.m. CST

    RE: Uncapie & Irritating Little Kids

    by mrbeaks

    They should cast Spielberg's son, and have his voice dubbed by Howard Stern. If you've heard Howard's show recently, you'll know what I'm talking about. It's a potentially offensive bit, but funny as hell.

  • July 14, 1999, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Indiana Jones IV? Nah......

    by Induna

    Age is not a problem? Nah.... H.P. Lovecraft? Don't take the piss! Roswell? Dull, dull, dull! Atlantis? Hammer House of B Movies! Lucas involved in anything after TPM? Criminal! Lock the beardy bloke up for ever!

  • July 14, 1999, 11:09 a.m. CST

    DVD Sales

    by GregX

    DVD is only 5% of VHS sales and Lucas is a greedy bastard so this is probably why its so long in coming with SW dvds

  • July 14, 1999, 11:10 a.m. CST

    Watch the Stars Might mean...

    by GregX

    Remember in grade school everyone was interested in Pyramids when your teacher said some scientists think aliens built them? Maybe this is some sick ploy and aliens will be in Indy 4.

  • July 14, 1999, 11:51 a.m. CST

    On "...stars and desert..."

    by sws

    As some have already said, this probably deals with Egypt's relation to space (like the aforementioned Giza pyramids and the stars in Orion's Belt). I've never heard a theory on Orion's Belt (which doesn't mean I am disputing the fact, I just haven't read up on it entirely) however I do know of many theories that related the pyramids at Giza to the area on Mars known as Cydonia (yes, the place where the coveted "Face" is located, but there are much more interesting locales in Cydonia than just the face). Then again it could have something to do with Atlantis. There are all sorts of theories that deal with past civilizations and their obsession with the stars.

  • July 14, 1999, 11:58 a.m. CST

    If Harrison's too old, how about Ving!

    by Dirtfish

    How about giving Ving Rhames the hat and whip? He could replace Ford easily.

  • July 14, 1999, 12:10 p.m. CST

    Desert and Stars?

    by Punky

    Indiana Jones Meets E.T. the Extra Terrestrial? OOOUUUCCCHHHH.....

  • July 14, 1999, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Indiana Jones DVD Release 4 October

    by SwanEater

    A few days ago I saw a featurette on CNN about the Indiana Jones Trilogy and the fact that Paramount is prparing for an October DVD release. Having done the digital transfer to satisfy the DVD community, expect a VHS widescreen remaster coming shortly thereafter. Just thought i'd pass that along.

  • July 14, 1999, 12:46 p.m. CST

    Don't let Lucas within 30 miles of this film!

    by luthardt

    Unless you want a Jar-Jar Binks Egyptian guy (actually, that would make him the side-kick weasel from The Mummy, wouldn't it?) anyway... If Lucas gets is fingers on this project, call it Indiana Jones and the Temple of K-Mart.

  • July 14, 1999, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Indiana the pugfaced terrier


    It's THE MUMMY meets CLOSE ENCOUNTERS... you know, for kids. AFter all the lazy formulaic , pandering to the looooowest common denominator pap Lucas, Spielberg (Schindler's list excluded) and even Harrison Ford have reduced themselves to over the last decade I have a feeling this movie won't be the cats pyjamas. McCalum once said in an interview that Indie would have a family in IV. You know what that means, right? The kids from Jurrasic Park and Annie tagging along with Indie on his "dangerous" adventures. Don't they realize that the "Kid Factor" is the worst part of the films they've made and dates them before the celluloid has even dried. I like Short Round or The Feral Kid (from THE ROAD WARRIOR) or the black girl from LOST WORLD as much as the next guy but there's a limit to how many cutesy arian tykes saying precoscious things I can take. It should be the exception, not the rule. WHen I was a kid I didn't want to see annoying kids slowing down the heroes I thought (and still think) were so cool. Given half a choice I think most kids in the demographic they are targeting would agree. Not to mention that as the kids who grow up on these films get older they are more likely to get back into the films if they haven't instantly expired their sell by dates through crass commercialism and pandering -- see STAR WARS. EMPIRE and RAIDERS by said filmmakers for examples of how to make entertainment for the WHOLE family and do it right. They single handedly re-invented the popculture swashbuckling genre for generations to come. It's just sad that they have reduced themselves to followers of their own inovation instead of leaders. They are very talented men but their sloppiness and willingness to descend into tired cliche when being so close to greatness pisses me off. It's worse than if the films totally stank in every way, because you're getting a glimpse of heaven and then having it yanked away . That said, I just watched the INDY TRILOGY again a couple of days ago and I LOVED every minute of it. No joke -- pure genius.

  • July 14, 1999, 1:50 p.m. CST

    The Indy Script I read

    by Rok

    Quite a while back I read an Indy script that was all based around the discovery of Noahs ark in the Aral mountains in russia. It was all about Indys son, a child he had with Marian Ravenwood. It seemed damn good at the time....

  • July 14, 1999, 2:29 p.m. CST

    Alexandria here we come...or not

    by FilmBuddy

    OK, as long as everyone's having so much fun speculating on Mr. McCallum's cryptic quote, I figured "what the heck, let's see what else we can come up with." First off, Mr. McCallum's reference to "Watch the stars" is strikingly similar to "Watch the skies". Now if I'm not mistaken, the production title for Spielberg's "E.T.:The Extra Terrestrial" was actually "A Boy's Life: Watch the Skies". Hmm. Not only that, but Harrison Ford's wife, Melissa Mathison, wrote the original screenplay for "E.T.". Eerie coincidence don't ya think? Well hang on. It gets better. As many know by know, E.T. himself (or at least a couple member's of his race) made a cameo in George's latest Star Wars flic. All of this combined with the fact that E.T.'s agent seems to have gotten our favorite little alien friend a few new gigs recently selling auto insurance sure leads one to suspect that he may be testing the waters for comeback (a la Elvis, perhaps?). So what does this have to do with Indy IV? Well, probably diddly squat, at least at this point. I mean we haven't even looked at the second half of Mr.McCallum's quote to try and decipher it yet. He reportedly also said "Watch the desert." Hmm. Well, yeah, that's pretty cryptic all right. But if you combine it with the first part, you'll notice he said the word "watch" twice! Now what if we were to stop thinking of that word as a verb meaning to "keep an eye on something" and instead though of it as a noun. You know, "watch" as in a timepiece. Now that has some possibilities there. Think obout it. Indy, being an archeologist, is a keen student of history and the relationships of human civilization through _TIME_ (hence the references to a "watch") from around the _GLOBE_. Now here's where all this wild speculation really gets fun. Watches measure time in hours, minutes, and seconds, much like cartographers measure the globe in degrees, minutes, and seconds. OK now think back to Spielberg's earlier masterpiece about alien visitors, "Close Encounters of the Third Kind". Yep. You see where I going with this right? Bob Balaban's character in that film, a translator who "used to read maps", points out that the alien signal is communicating a location using "Earth coordinates" ("104d-44m-30s, 40d-36m-10s"). Now where else have we seen cryptic codes that could be deciphered into "2 sets of 3 numbers; degrees, minutes, and seconds"? Oh I don't know...maybe that mysterious "THX 1138" that Lucas is so fond of. If we transpose the letters for numbers, T-H-X could break down into "20-8-24" ("T" is the 20th letter of the alpahabet, "H" is the 8th, etc.). And as for the "1138", this could be "11-3-8" or "1-13-8" or "1-1-38". Or for that matter, just plain "138" could be the proper number to use. After all, in "American Grafitti", the license plate on that bad ass yellow hot rod was "THX 138". Oh and looky who was dirving that car. Well I'll be damned if it wasn't ole Indy himself. See, I told ya I was onto something with all these coincidences. And didn't a certain someone from TPM say that "nothing happens by accident"? So if these are "earth coordinates", then where does that put us? Well, accounting for the fact that we don't know which set is longitude and which is latitude or whether we're talking East/West or North/South there are about 5 locations on the globe which might be likely candidates. Well let's see. All lie in either the Sahara _DESERT_, the Kalahari _DESERT_, or off the coast of Africa (around where many historians have speculated the "Lost World" (another Spielberg connection by the way) of Atlantis might have been. Damn, this is just plain creepy! But with the successful buzz lately about the Blair Witch Priject, it sounds like people like "creepy" these I'll go even further this this amazing extrapolation of Indy IV specualtion. What if these so-called "Earth coordinates" are not specific loacations, but rather relative distances from another fixed location. Well lets see what we can come up with there, shall we. Let start in say...I don't know...Tatahouine, Tunisia. Yeah, that's as good a place as any and it sure as hell is in that "desert" Mr.McCallum spoke of. And to top it all off we know Lucas likes it. Now let's go 20d-8m-24 s (T-H-X) to the west and 1d-3m-8s (1-3-8) to the south. OK, so now where does that put us? Well I'll be a Gungan's uncle. If we ain't smack dab at the sight of one of the original 7 Wonders of the World, none other than the great Lighthouse of Alexandria. Don't believe me? Grab an atlas and look it up! And if Indy ain't interested in that historical lighthouse, or the fact that Cleopatra ruled Egypt from this little burg, he might find it interesting that just right off the coast of Alexandria is the deepest part of the Mediterranean Sea and, I might add, the site where many scholars and renowned archeologists have speculated the location of Atlantis to be. Damn! Free associative speculation is fun! So let's here it for "Indiana Jones and the Light to Atlantis"! Woohoo!

  • July 14, 1999, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Sounds like Indy does "The Mummy"

    by Tall_Boy

    oh shit, we already saw Brendon Fraiser do his half-assed Indy impersonation. . .oh well, hopefully Indy vs. the mummy wouldn't have the Mummy be about as threatening as a gym trainer (which, admit it, is what the guy looked liked) PS- this smells like bullshit to me. . .

  • July 14, 1999, 4:05 p.m. CST

    (Im)possible storylines

    by HagCeli

    I'm an Indy fan from Germany and I've been watching the development of the franchise quite closely. This is my opinion: 1) Noah's Ark Storyline: Forget it. This screenplay (named "Indiana Jones and the Sons of Darkness") was a hoax, done by an aspiring writer who posted his fan-fiction to the net, as he wanted to get Lucasfilm's attention. Almost everybody who read Indy fan sites over the last 2 years knows that! 2.) Atlantis Storyline. Very interesting. There was an adventure computer game for MS-DOS in 1992, named "Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis", officially published by LucasArts and it was quite a big hit back then; it got excellent reviews and it sold well. It was a very good game (I loved it), and the storyline would make a pretty decent film - but the fact that the topic _has already been done_ makes it pretty unlikely that this will happen as a movie as well. 3.) There was a Garden of Eden storyline rumoured, but as far as I know, the concept didn't work, and to be honest, it doesn't sound very cool. 4.) Egypt, Pyramids and Pharaoes. I think "The Mummy" covered that particular subject pretty well. Whether you liked that movie or not, you'd have to admit that a similar Indy film would pretty much look like a copy, even if it was better. So I say -- no. (Hoping that the "big 3" are still going at least for a tiny bit of originality. I begun having my doubts about that recently.) 5.) Roswell. No. Aliens, maybe. But Roswell has been covered by so many TV movies and series that it's not even funny (remember Dark Skies, X-Files, and so on?). Roswell is very much a '90s thing but remember, the '90s will be over soon... I know that there is an "Indiana Jones and the Space Men from Mars" script involving the 1947 incident, but I seriously doubt that they would film it. THIS IS THE WORST CASE SCENARIO, in my opionion. 6.) Aliens in general. Possible. In a southern american setting, involving mayan/atzec cultures in a Daniken-like scenario (Nazca plains etc.), it would be interesting. Well, the _scenario_ at least, but what would be _the story_? I don't see one. Indy is traditionally going after certain ancient artifacts, and I think they'll keep that formula. Which well-known ancient artifacts are connected to this scenario? NONE. -> Forget it. (Otherwise it will turn out to be another "Temple of Doom". Those Sankara Stones were nice, but not half as spectacular as the Ark or the Grail. They'll have to find an equivalent to those, or they'll fail.) 7.) Anything involving Nazis: NO. The new Indy 3D game, as well as any forthcoming movies, will most likely be set _after_ WW2. Which means - no Nazis. Communists are very likely. So, forget _everything_ having to do with Hitler and his obsession with occult artifacts. I just don't think this will happen. 8.) Easter Islands? No. There was an Indy rip off movie in the 80's named "Dakota Harris". The topic is dead. 9.) Forget everything you read in the Indy novels. McGregor and Martin Caidin and all those writers came up with some good, some lame stories, involving a lot of topics and scenarios. Those novels won't be filmed, just like Tim Zahn's SW sequel books won't ever be filmed, too (at least I hope so). And after all, who tells us that McCallum really told the truth? Could be his "hint" about stars and deserts is plain wrong, a simple lie, and part of a desinformation campaign. Ever thought about that? So, which stories _are_ likely? Think hard. At least there are "certain" elements: 1.) We'll have an older Indy. He'll _possibly_ have a family. Not necessarily. I don't think there will be old love interests, so expect to see a new leading lady for the hero. Sophia Hapgood, Indy's partner from Fate of Atlantis and the new Indy 3D game, would be a _very_ possible (and good) choice in my eyes. 2.) We'll have a post-WW2 scenario, with communists as enemies. (Ever thought about freemasons/rosicrucians or even the vatican as possible foes?) 3.) There are deserts in Indy I and III (and in "The Mummy"). My guess is there will be *new* landscapes in Indy 4. Where hasn't he gone before? RIGHT: To a snow scenario. What about the antarctic, or a more northern setting in general (...vikings? Norse myths?), or mountains (Tibet?). What about underwater archeology? It was a big topic in the 50's and 60's. Don't forget that Indy is an archeologist. Underwater scenes are still missing in Indy's universe. What about subterranean? A "hollow earth" scenario would be very campy, I admit. But who knows. _They'll have to take Indy to new places._ (Not to mars, please.) Otherwise the movie isn't worth making. 4.) Ever thought of an expanded asian scenario, such as Japan? The Japanese would be good foes, as well, don't forget (WW2 etc.)! 5.) Which famous artifacts are still out there to be found, keeping the "time restrictions" in mind? You know any? Well, this is just some food for your thoughts. I'm going for a japanese/pacific scenario because I like it. I see a potential there. What do you think?

  • July 14, 1999, 4:24 p.m. CST

    Hell Yeah!

    by Private Ryan


  • July 14, 1999, 5:34 p.m. CST


    by LiquidNitrate

    Amen to those latter possibilities. I crave fresh NEW imaginative energetic elements we haven't seen before (or at least haven't seen in a while). We got those elements with the first two Indy's and the Star Wars trilogy. Each flick was something we hadn't seen before, and that made them fascinating to experience. We sadly didn't get any those descriptions with Last Crusade. Entertaining - yes, nostalgic - yes, new - no. I want Part 4 to excel by its own merits and not merely as a "for old times' sake" rehash. Part of what makes Tomb Raider so fun and appealing (besides Lara) is the Indy-style approach to NEW locations which have been heretofore unexplored in modern studio entertainment. Those are all environments which classic Spielberg and Lucas (not their modern spoiled hack selves) would have made great cinematic adventures in. That's also why I look forward to PJ's Lord of the Rings...which represents the kind of classic Lucasberger cleverness we might have enjoyed with Willow if only Lucas hadn't been so stupidly self-indulgent.

  • July 14, 1999, 6:21 p.m. CST

    no regular version of SW DVD ever

    by Bill Mulder

    There'll never be a regular version of SW on DVD. Spec ed will be the only one available. Think about it Lucas more or less disowned the old versions. He's said that he'll never release them again. The spec eds are the ones that he wants people to remember. Has anyone seen a copy of Star Wars without the Episode IV- A New Hope line since they added it before ESB came out? Nope. You'll never see an old version of SW again either.

  • July 14, 1999, 6:24 p.m. CST

    Indy 4 (and those silly Mars ideas)

    by Volt

    Can't wait to see Indy4. If I were a betting man I'd put money on the Orion's-Belt idea. as for the stuff about mars: #1 the "face" looks more like a foot than anything else when you look at the new photos. #2 even if they built a movie around that bit of twadle it'd be completely anachronistic. They'd have to age Ford something like 30 years to make the timeing fit with the first known images of the Cydonia Foot. And do any of us wanna see that?

  • July 14, 1999, 7:11 p.m. CST

    Indy 4

    by Cyclogeek

    I would just like to see it done. Thats all I have to say about it.

  • July 14, 1999, 7:37 p.m. CST

    stars = ACTORS; desert = FILMING! It's all so clear now...

    by Mr Stonky

    Maybe he's saying, "wait until they start making it." Or maybe not. No matter what it's about, we're sure to get some more lights-flashing-though-smoke and standing-awestruck Spielberg psuedo-NewAge mumbo-jumbo.

  • July 14, 1999, 11:44 p.m. CST

    by mrpink

    It seems that everyone dismisses the Roswell idea because it seems silly. How about the obvious reason it couldn't be about Roswell... Indy movies are about going to far away lands. Himalayas, India, Egypt. Why would a guy who studies HISTORY and ANCIENT artifacts be interested in something that, in the Indy time period, would be new?

  • July 15, 1999, 2:13 a.m. CST

    Indy 4: Shortround's Revenge

    by Justin Sane

    Shortround will be returning after being so heartlessly dumped in an orphanage by Dr. Jones. Shortround, after stealing many, many wallets, has enough to hire his own group of thugs, and after extensive reading builds a Doomsday Device that will threaten all mankind! Only Indy, Marion and Henry Jones can stop him (with a little help from Sallah and the camels his brother turned down as reimbursement for his car)! Just kidding. Seriously, I don't care WHAT it's about... I'll still be in line opening day. Aliens? Fine with me, as long as it's PULPY. And speaking of PULP, why is everyone always so down on Temple Of Doom? It seems to me that it's the MOST pulpy of the three... in my opinion the weak link is Last Crusade... but they're all great films and twice as good as the muck passing itself off as adventure film today...

  • Aug. 12, 2006, 7:28 a.m. CST

    The movie is not being made?

    by Wolfpack

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