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A large selection of CORALINE behind the scenes fun...
Hey folks, Harry here... I just spent a good deal of time watching all of these - and figured - why not share with all of you. I love Henry Selick and his devotion to Stop Motion as a marvelous medium of wonder. Here's some wonders to ponder...
Wasn't that fantastic - especially that weird as fuck last one?!?!?!
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And happy new year firsties!!!!
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Thanks
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Selick talks about Coraline, Nightmare Before Christmas and how he really feels about the Pillsbury Dough Boy on Live Wire! January 31st at 7 pm on KOPB. Listen live on opb(dotorg)or podcast it whenever. Info at livewireradio(dotorg)
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I love coraline! i watched alot of these on coraline.com. I can't wait for this to come out!
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Thanks for putting these up. I am really looking forward to seeing this.
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This will be Classic
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that as a grown adult the two films I'm most looking forward to this year are Coraline and Up?
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I was lucky enough to catch some of this stuff during the signing tour for THE GRAVEYARD BOOK, but it's awesome to look at it again and discover new things. Thanks Harry.
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This looks like a real treat.
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NO!
Those two films are just stories told in the animation medium... who said animation is only for kids? These films aspire to be much more than strictly juvenile fair. -
Is no Annasophia Robb.
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"I was half-amused and half-appalled to see people on the imdb Coraline chat forum and on the Aint it cool talkback thingummy confidently explaining, as if they knew what they were talking about, that this was actually cunningly disguised to look like stop motion CGI, or that Henry Selick had used computers to do the inbetweening, or something, while occasionally people who had actually worked on Coraline would go "No, it was all done by hand," and were mostly ignored in the squalling democracy of the internet. What's nice about the little films is that you can see how it's done; and it's done by people making things and moving them, a little bit at a time."
So, are people here really that stupid? I haven't been paying attention, but I didn't think so. -
"You can't win with those guys".
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...I have a hard time getting over this not being Dave McKean's Coraline...but there seem to be a lot of good things here...
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thanks for posting. I hope this kills at the box office so more stop motion animation is made. this looks great and with way more heart than Corpse Bride, with luck we won't have to wait more than a decade for the next Selick stop motion animation fix.
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...and am in the middle of reading Gaiman's "The Graveyard Book" now, which has all the makings of being Selick's or even Burton's next great flick!
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In the behind-the-scenes shots, you'll notice there's an obvious seam on Coraline and her mother's faces, right at the eye level, where the lower half of the face is swapped out to enable facial expressions/dialogue. I'd wager that the seams were eliminated with post-production CGI. Just a theory.
I sympathize with Mr. Gaiman, though. As we move forward, it's going to become more and more difficult to explain the significance of stop-motion versus full-blown CGI. When I was a kid, there simply was no other way to achieve 3D animation. -
Jan 02, 2009 12:14:14 AM CST
This, Watchmen and Trek are the only films I want to see this ye
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Coraline looks like it will be much better, and more fun, than the Corpse Bride.
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about faces being nailed to walls, diner torture porn, and putting out his cigarettes and grinding in the packets on everyones folklore, instead of generalizing online commentary from one or two posts? AICN is just a fun, moderator-free (for the most part) free-for-all, place to gripe and vent and post stupid shit.And IMDB? He's really a glutton for punishment.
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in an interview in the now defunct Gnosis quarterly.
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Gaiman has just recently released his latest novel "The Graveyard Book" and in recent years has been involved in the production of at least three films. He helped write "Beowoulf"(sp?), he oversaw "Stardust", and he helped oversee "Coraline".
How much busier do you want him to be? Keep in mind he's probably in the middle of a book tour for "The Graveyard Book". -
who is considered one of the greats of his genre, who still gets bent out of shape by anonymous postings online. Of course people are going to shift into ID mode behind a screen name. Probably not always what someone truly believes.
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...hope you have a good night.
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showed a horizontal line across the middle of her face. If you search aicn, you'll find it - it was the first shot they posted here.
Since then, all the stills and shots show NO lines in the faces. To suggest to us that no cgi tweaking was done on this movie is to insult our intelligence. Gaiman is a prolific author, but he can take his smarmy self-righteousness and shove it. -
CGI was indeed used to remove the seams on the character's faces, and also to remove the metal rigs that held the characters in place on all of the frames when they're in mid-air or if they were too top-heavy to stand by themselves. However, CGI was never used to create or animate any of the characters, props or sets, as has been suggested incorrectly here on the AICN TalkBack forums. That's what Gaiman was defending.
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just keep yelling at the imaginary cats in the corner of your sitting room and leave the internet alone.
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Their right. We're assholes. You only have take a gander at some of the posts I've made, and those who've responded to me, in the last 24 hours to know that. It is, however, no big deal that they did a mild a amount of touch up for CORALINE with CGI; nor is it a big deal we caught it. I don't think at any time has Gaiman or Smith specifically disparaged our ilk in such a way as to decry us entirely. For cryin' out loud, we pay huge bucks to see them in person, and read and watch their work. And I've seen enough from both men to be confident they appreciate that. (I hate to bring him up because he's become film equivalent of GWB/Cheney/Hitler on this site, even by me--an overused effigy of cinematic villainy.--But they aren't Rothman.) I think they're only pointing out that we can get carried away with our criticism. and that's fair. God knows I do. I'm willing to accept their criticism of me as a fan, as long as they're aware I'm not going to change. After all, I'm an asshole.
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God damned computer. I can never edit before posting.
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I can't edit when I've been drinking. Heheheheheh... I'm so chemically dependent!
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Every major feature film gets "body and fender" work in post. Rig and wire removal, stray boom mics in the shot, removal or addition of signage, prop touch-ups, pimple, blemish and tattoo removal (believe me, after watching FX artists spend months making actresses skinnier and zit-free, you begin to question a lot of films!). It's almost considered a given. Digitally hiding seams on puppets is NOT part of the creative storytelling process. It's refinement and perfecting in the same way that color-correction is refinement. Do people complain about the Digital Intermediate process because "hey, the colors were not straight out of the camera!" To piss on all the real creativity and painstaking craft because we have tools help clean-up and finesse is just plain ignorant and childish.
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Yes there is some CG post tweaking. I've talked to animators on "Coraline" and seams and rigs are being erased via computer. But this is first and foremost a Stop Motion Animated film. The use of CG to eliminate seams is no more of a 'cheat' than using a soft bristle brush and mineral oil to smooth out tool marks on a plasticine Claymation puppet.
They also have used a rapid prototyping machine that allows them to design some props on a computer and create them quickly. Stop motion is an arduous and painstaking undertaking and any tool that makes the job easier is always welcome. It's no more cheating than an accountant trading in their pencil and paper for a calculator. -
Yes there is some CG post tweaking. I've talked to animators on "Coraline" and seams and rigs are being erased via computer. But this is first and foremost a Stop Motion Animated film. The use of CG to eliminate seams is no more of a 'cheat' than using a soft bristle brush and mineral oil to smooth out tool marks on a plasticine Claymation puppet.
They also have used a rapid prototyping machine that allows them to design some props on a computer and create them quickly. Stop motion is an arduous and painstaking undertaking and any tool that makes the job easier is always welcome. It's no more cheating than an accountant trading in their pencil and paper for a calculator. -
As were the hands and the mice and the car and parts of the house and the cricket her dad rides and the hands, and well lots of stuff. Sculpting on a computer and brought into the real world on a rapid prototype machine!
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