Jan. 1, 2009, 9:15 a.m. CST
Jan. 1, 2009, 9:16 a.m. CST
Speed Racer? C'mon now
Jan. 1, 2009, 9:18 a.m. CST
A vampire flick that isn't just teeth and blood...I really wanna see this.
Jan. 1, 2009, 9:20 a.m. CST
Doesn't open in the UK until April, dammit!
Jan. 1, 2009, 9:20 a.m. CST
I can watch his older movies every single day and never get tired of them. Jaws, Close Encounters, Raiders, Schindler's List. But lately? I really enjoyed Catch Me If You Can, War of the Worlds and Munich the first time around, but on repeated viewings they just bore the life out of me. Looking forward to Lincoln, though.
Jan. 1, 2009, 9:23 a.m. CST
your 1941 is my HOOK. It came out when I was a kid and will always be enjoyed by my friends and I.
Jan. 1, 2009, 9:25 a.m. CST
Jan. 1, 2009, 9:27 a.m. CST
NICE!! this is the best 10 ten list I've seen on aicn. Not to start up on the speed racer thing, but it really is a fun film. AND NO FUCKING CLOVERFIELD! NICE!!!
Jan. 1, 2009, 9:32 a.m. CST
I can honestly say if not for this little girl and her making you believe the relationship between them and not see her as a monster, but a victim this movie probably would've been lame as shit. It earns its ending wholeheartedly.
Jan. 1, 2009, 9:43 a.m. CST
by I Dunno
Really. Think of Indy's first reveal in Raiders after he whips the guy's gun out of his hand and Indy comes out of the shadows. Now think of Indy sitting at the table in Temple of Doom in his James Bond tux. Now, quickly, think of Indy's goofy ass expression as he falls down the spiral staircase in Last Crusade. <p>You got the bends from that transition, didn't you? There are nitrogen bubbles coursing through your veins as we speak from that drastic change in coolness-pressure. That's why I was hopeful but not optimistic about Indy 4. Why people have such affection for Last Crusade, I don't know but it was almost as silly, just without the CGI.</p>
Jan. 1, 2009, 9:51 a.m. CST
I sometimes think I'm the only one who enjoyed Crystal Skull on the same level as the previous films. <br><br> My favourite Indy moment was the opening of Raiders. Trying to get the idol in a mysterious temple in a remote part of the world with all those traps around just left me wanting more. But we didn't get more - the closest we got after that was right at the end of Last Crusade. Finally Crystal Skull gave me what I wanted - a non stop adventure, exploring these old temples. It was like the opening of Raiders but as an entire movie. <br><br> For the record I love Raiders and Crusade (not so much Doom, however) and I honestly rank this one close to those two. I can't put them in order - each has things in them I love, but Crystal Skull was definately a worthy addition for me. <br><br> Fair enough if you just don't like it, but it seems to me you're just nit picking at cgi effects, the fact they use aliens instead of religion and that it's not exactly the same as the Indiana Jones you saw in the 80's. To me it's an entertaining Indiana Jones adventure movie - as an Indy fan, I'm sorry you didn't share that.
Jan. 1, 2009, 9:59 a.m. CST
They make an Indy movie with his dad and decide to make a fucking sitcom out of it? No, thanks.<br> And I really gotta say that Heath Ledger doesn't deserve much praise for The Joker. He never was that good as an actor and all he did here was adding annoying little ticks while reading his lines. ("I *cough* am *licks lips* the *rolls eyes* Joker *waves his hands*, look *licks his lips again* at *eats something with open mouth* me *licks his lips again and makes a funny dance*). If you think that he deserves an Oscar for it then I wonder why you aren't angry at the jury for ignoring Wesley Snipes job in Demolition Man,
Jan. 1, 2009, 10 a.m. CST
The only reason Harvey Milk is famous was he got shot by being in the wrong place at the wrong time. He ain't no Abby Hoffman.
Jan. 1, 2009, 10:07 a.m. CST
because he got shot because some guy ate too many twinkies.....i havent seen the movie yet but tell me it mentions the twinkie defense.
Jan. 1, 2009, 10:18 a.m. CST
by Powers Boothe
Do people not remember how weak The Last Crusade was? Indy 4 (despite it's flaws) is actually an improvement on that film.
Jan. 1, 2009, 10:20 a.m. CST
Start your engines!
Jan. 1, 2009, 10:22 a.m. CST
I'll go even further. Indy 4 was better than Indy 3 and Indy 2. That screeching bitch from Indy 2 just drove me crazy. I wanted to kill her after her second scene.
Jan. 1, 2009, 10:24 a.m. CST
Some people really have to learn the difference between "Worst" and "Most disappointing". Was KotCS massively disappointing? For me, yes. Was it the worst movie of 2008? Not by a LOOOONG shot. It was okay - and for an Indy movie, okay isn't enough, I agree. Worse than "the hottie and the nottie?" Worse than "Epic Movie?" Worse than "Prom Night" remake? Even worse than "Day the Earth Stood Still?" No way.
Jan. 1, 2009, 10:34 a.m. CST
Yes, it was 20-30 minutes too long (cut the mid-section and it's an almost perfect film) but if you cannot look at that delirious bit of cinematic joy with glee then I have no use for you. I still think WALL-E was at best second-tier Pixar...
Jan. 1, 2009, 10:35 a.m. CST
Most disappointing? Absolutely. Worst? No way in hell. DISASTER MOVIE, Nordling. DISASTER MOVIE!!!!
Jan. 1, 2009, 10:44 a.m. CST
And it's awesome. How can you not love that movie?
Jan. 1, 2009, 10:52 a.m. CST
Crystal Skull could have been better but no way is it the worst film of the year. And I agree with DerLanghaarige, at least Skull wasn't a comedy version of Raiders, as Last Crusade was.
Jan. 1, 2009, 10:53 a.m. CST
by Speed Fricassee
Easily better than Speed Racer, Slumdog and Milk. Don't get me wrong -- those three were great, yes -- but The Visitor was just THAT good. Why the snubs?
Jan. 1, 2009, 11 a.m. CST
I LIKED the aliens in CRYSTAL SKULL. I thought it made an interesting contrast considering the movie was set in the 50s. No, the movie had a lot more trouble than that.
Jan. 1, 2009, 11 a.m. CST
*Possible Spoiler* I loved this movie. The only issue I had was a very groan-worthy CGI cat attack. Am I alone in this? Is was horrible.
Jan. 1, 2009, 11:05 a.m. CST
I didn't see those two movies. I don't eat my own shit, either. Coincidence? NO!
Jan. 1, 2009, 11:07 a.m. CST
by Bobba Phat
how about a list of the 10 movies you're most looking forward to seeing in 2009?
Jan. 1, 2009, 11:22 a.m. CST
I find it stunning anyone has put this on their "Best of" lists. I get a headache just thinking about that mess. However, I whole heartily agree with Indy being the worst film of the year, or at least the biggest disappointment.
Jan. 1, 2009, 11:38 a.m. CST
Great movie. Had a hard time with the love story, moreso in retrospect -- I keep seeing Oskar, decades later, robotically killing for Eli and being disposed of just like his predecessor. Wonder if the novel foreshadows this or some other fate...?
Jan. 1, 2009, 11:47 a.m. CST
no matter what any apologisdt says last crusade was wy better indy was indy, sean connery still owned everything with the scottish charm and honestly you can rag on crusade all you want at least the action was competent and worth watching name one sequence in indy 4 which matches or even comes close to thw tank chase. Indy 4 was shot in a studio and it was blatant.
Jan. 1, 2009, 11:48 a.m. CST
I completely agree about the cats, although Let The Right One In is one of my favorites of the year. It just didn't even feel like it was part of the same movie, with the same sense of realism. It's a testament to the greatness of the rest of the film that this scene did so little to hurt it, although I'm sure it'll cause me some cringing on repeated viewings.
Jan. 1, 2009, 11:50 a.m. CST
I think that scene was meant to be funny. Just the way she runs off with all those cats clinging to her was a comic image to me.
Jan. 1, 2009, 11:51 a.m. CST
I'm pretty sure that's the effect the movie is supposed to have on you. The audience is supposed to sense the parallels between Oskar and Eli's previous "friend" pretty early on in the movie I think.
Jan. 1, 2009, 11:56 a.m. CST
Fair comment on Disaster movie and Meet the Spartans. But, as a movie geek, you must have seen The Happening. Surely you have to rate The Happening as being worse than KotCS. Again: I'm not saying Indiana Jones wasn't disappointing, but...man...the worst? It's not like it had Indiana Jones being chased by a windy field.
Jan. 1, 2009, 12:02 p.m. CST
Maybe the worst scene in a major motion picture ever? Especially when the wind sweeps over you and... nothing happens. THE HAPPENING is without question one of the worst films ever and what's amazing is that as lame as the gimmick is... it could have been turned into at least a half-way decent flick. But it's the execution that kills it. The script, the direction, the acting... if you ranking movies with real potential (DISASTER MOVIE clearly had none), then THE HAPPENING was far and away the worst film of the year.
Jan. 1, 2009, 12:02 p.m. CST
I normally rank my Worst as the film that most disappointed me that year. I can't rank Shyamalan because the guy can't disappoint me - I normally avoid his films now. I disliked SIGNS, hated THE VILLAGE, and hated LADY IN THE WATER, so I didn't bother with THE HAPPENING.
Jan. 1, 2009, 12:13 p.m. CST
Just say WORST FILMS I SAW... I know that should go without saying (because how can you review films you didn't see?) but there is sometimes this idea that when someone makes BEST and WORST lists, that they have seen everything (those words are kind of absolutes, no?). The point is... INDY 4 was not the worst film of the year--but either the worst film you saw or the most disappointing (I'm still not clear on that, simply because Indy wasn't THAT bad, tepid as it was).
Jan. 1, 2009, 12:15 p.m. CST
by Powers Boothe
Hated it when I first watched it at the cinema back during the Summer. Got talked into watched it again on DVD. During the 2nd viewing I kinda 'understood' what M.Night was going for here. You guys may roll your eyes as you read this...but I eventually realized The Happening was DELIBERATELY done in the style of a 50s Sci-Fi B picture. M.Night instructed all of his cast to deliver their lines in that style. On a 2nd viewing I also noticed that the script has lots of intentionally funny moments...moments that I misinterpreted as bad writing on a first viewing. <p>Isn't this what Tobee Hooper attempted to do with his mid 1986 film Invaders From Mars? Or even that other mid 80s flick, Strange Invaders. <p>Fell free to rip me apart for this but I just wanna let you know that it's really not the stinker a lot of you think it is.
Jan. 1, 2009, 12:18 p.m. CST
Do they really count? I mean, really? I think giving them worst movie of the year is glorifying them too much. We should just be ignoring them instead of giving them any kind of accolades, even if it is an insulting one. We know they're going to be terrible, which takes the joy out of granting them "Worst Film of the Year." It's like, "Well, duh."<p>Give the title to something deserving of worst. Something that strove for greatness or strove for something specific but failed massively.
Jan. 1, 2009, 12:19 p.m. CST
Unless you really ARE Powers Boothe, in which case I just love your acting. But I do not think THE HAPPENING is intentionally bad. That's a cop-out explanation of why the movie failed. Now, they are a few scenes that I like (I acutally think Wahlberg apologizes to a fake plant is pretty damn funny) but no... even really bad B-movies from the 50's are way better than THE HAPPENING (stupid title, by the way).
Jan. 1, 2009, 12:20 p.m. CST
Nordling beat me to my opinion while I was reading the talkbacks and writing my response...
Jan. 1, 2009, 12:37 p.m. CST
Like, COME ON! Milk is not 30% of what it could have been. Speed Racer is flashy nonsensical visuals with a predictable, stupid plot. Beautiful to look at it, but you get dizzy after a while
Jan. 1, 2009, 12:44 p.m. CST
and why should I care about his top 10 list. nothing personal, but i'm more familiar with dannygloversdickblood in the talkbacks than i am with this nordling guy's work.
Jan. 1, 2009, 12:48 p.m. CST
I mean was I really the only utterly bored to death.
Jan. 1, 2009, 12:48 p.m. CST
If you (or anybody else) thinks that Indy 4 was the worst of 2008, then you should really go out and watch more movies! And especially not just the summer blockbusters and/or fantasyfilms that you catch at festivals.
Jan. 1, 2009, 12:49 p.m. CST
Good list, man. Speed Racer fans unite!
Jan. 1, 2009, 12:52 p.m. CST
I remember when Van Helsing came out and everybody pretty much hated it. The Producers and the few only fans tried to make the rest of the world believe afterwards, that the movie was never meant to be taken serious and was intended as a parody.<br> Didn't work then and it doesn't work now, sorry.
Jan. 1, 2009, 1:04 p.m. CST
by brock landers baby
Jan. 1, 2009, 1:05 p.m. CST
by most excellent ninja
is that what you think the joker is, that it's that simple? fuck yourself you cunt. that was a great performance.
Jan. 1, 2009, 1:06 p.m. CST
by brock landers baby
South Park were spot on. 99% of it shot indoors too.Awful. Just lazy.
Jan. 1, 2009, 1:07 p.m. CST
The cat attack got a lively laugh in the theatre. To me, it disrupted the creepiness vibe I had going...to date, no movie but this one did it right. I agree that the movie is done so well that it is only a minor bitch. Yeah, repeated viewing might exacerbate the crappiness of the effects.
Jan. 1, 2009, 1:16 p.m. CST
by slappy jones
Jan. 1, 2009, 2:09 p.m. CST
It's far worse than Indy 4.
Jan. 1, 2009, 2:31 p.m. CST
by Tin Snoman
"Trying to make a B movie" is the biggest cop-out ever. Even if that actually was what M. Night was going for, today's audiences are either too sophisticated to accept bad dialogue and wooden acting, or they're too stupid to appreciate the homage. Either way, it's unacceptable. And say what you want about Last Crusade, but at least it doesn't have a phoned-in retread Williams soundtrack and its violations of realism are mainly limited to the artifact in question. And Connery > LeBoeuf. And Last Crusade has no fake CG monkeys, or any fake CG at all really...
Jan. 1, 2009, 2:47 p.m. CST
Last Crusade hasn't bad CGI, but some of the worst blue screen effect shots ever and overall worse effects than its two precursors. So if you wanna critisize Indy 4 for having Special effects that are far below what's possible today, you have to do the same with Indy 3.
Jan. 1, 2009, 3:19 p.m. CST
by dingus khan
...I heard they are remaking this in America. So glad I saw the Swedish version, first. The cat scene bugged me, but only because all of the other effects were real. (like the man being dropped from the hospital window)
Jan. 1, 2009, 3:33 p.m. CST
You can put a fedora on a lump of shit. But in the end it's still a lump of shit. And yes, hurts to admit that.
Jan. 1, 2009, 3:36 p.m. CST
Long, boring, nausea inducing. A tremendously horrible piece of crap, start to finish. There was, in my opinion, NOTHING redeeming about even a single moment of this movie. And I would have to rate Indy 4 as one of the biggest disappointments, but definately not the worst movie of the year. But seriously, Speed Fucking Racer?
Jan. 1, 2009, 3:38 p.m. CST
You cannot have real action without real peril. The action sequences were not believable in Indy 4 thanks to the over-used CGI. Say what you will about Crusade...but the fight scene on the tank which preceded Indy being dangled off the gun and slammed into the wall was believable because it was real peril. That alone makes it a better film.
Jan. 1, 2009, 3:39 p.m. CST
Sorry, I was going to include this in my last post. I have to agree with others. The Happening was even worse than Speed Racer. M Night needs to direct someone else's script. I love his visual touches, but his writing has just gotten worse with every film since Unbreakable.
Jan. 1, 2009, 3:43 p.m. CST
but I think they deserve the distinction of "Worst" of the year, of the decade, of the century, of ever. Ignoring them only makes people think they weren't as bad as they thought. No inclusion on a "Worst of" list is as good as saying they're not that bad. Giving the film a pass because "it wasn't supposed to be good" is giving special treatment to something that deserves to be derided. <p>Someone gave the Movie-movies duo $20 million to make their 4th film and Disaster Movie was the result. The complete lack of effort that went into that putrid excuse for a motion picture is despicable. These movies, and those that make them, should not be ignored; they should take their rightful place atop every "Worst of" list for all to see. As a result, hopefully, the next time a film is billed as "from the guys who brought you Disaster Movie & Meet the Spartans" people all over the world will say "you mean the guys who made, according to every film critic on the planet, the two worst films of last year? NO THANK YOU!" How will the studios know these films are shit if Mary Hart doesn't say it? They obviously can't tell by just looking at them - the seem to need to be told.
Jan. 1, 2009, 4:28 p.m. CST
actually, the book states that the older guy that kills for Eli wasn't a previous boyfriend, rather just a pervert pedorast. in the book, after the hospital he turns into an evil vampire and a whole new subplot is created. this wasnt touched in the film, obviously.
Jan. 1, 2009, 4:56 p.m. CST
I can see where YOU'RE coming from. The pits of Hell!!!<p>But no, seriously, I do. However, those movies make their money from schmucks that probably don't look at top 10 lists, best or worst. I agree that news of their terribleness must be spread to every living soul paying to go to the theater, and I believe the studios know how shit the movie is by looking at something like Rotten Tomatoes (not that it's the end-all of determining a film's worth, but I think a 2% for Disaster Movie is pretty deserving).<p>But how to get through to the masses? Perhaps we should fundraise and contract Kanye West and Fall Out Boy to write songs about how bad the movies are, then the idiots who listen to their music will stop being the idiots who pay for "____" Movies.
Jan. 1, 2009, 5:18 p.m. CST
Is utterly retarded, its not the most pleasant sound in the world, but its not supposed to sound like Michael Buble. Its supposed to do two things A. Make him sound more scary and intimidating and B. to disguise the sound of his normal voice so people dont recognise it. Why people can't accept this and actually appreciate that the film makers thought of this I'll never understand. One of the things that drove me nuts about Superman was that no one think hes this guy looks exactly like Clark Kent and sounds exactly like Clark but no it cant be Clark. I mean come on! how did MJ not think that Spidermans voice sounds exactly like Peter Parkers!
Jan. 1, 2009, 5:21 p.m. CST
That's the same defense I give verbally to friends who are naysayers, Clark Kent reference included.
Jan. 1, 2009, 5:24 p.m. CST
Since he's so goddamn rich and has so much advanced technology, you'd think he could have something around his throat changing his voice electronically or something. Or just carry around one of those Scream voice change thingies. Right? Am I right?
Jan. 1, 2009, 5:31 p.m. CST
Jan. 1, 2009, 5:50 p.m. CST
That's a good point if he were Iron Man. Last I checked we can see Bat's mouth.
Jan. 1, 2009, 6:09 p.m. CST
by Bouncy X
i'm not some huge nerd who's always checking the net but until the new Indy movie came out, i never heard or read any negative comments about the first 3 movies. And then Part 4 comes and suddenly its all "well Part whatever was never really that good". Its hilarious and reminds of me Star Wars. Before the special editions, the original 3 were PERFECT!!!!!...then the special editions come, the prequels start and then "oh...that one always sucked, i hated it even back then. Its just pure hilarity to see that sorta stuff. And you cant compare a movie made in 2008 with one made in the 80s, times and technical issues were different. In 20 years CGI will be the "old school" effect and something else will be around and then people will bitch "remember when movies were done with CGI, those were the good days". Yes....its funny seeing people act like that. :)
Jan. 1, 2009, 6:14 p.m. CST
I don't think anybody ever puts those on their lists because nobody considers them to be real movies. For me to choose a movie as the worst of the year, it actually has to aspire to something and miss. Then again, I don't call my award the Worst Movie of the Year award. I call it the Show Me On the Doll Where the Movie Touched You award.
Jan. 1, 2009, 6:17 p.m. CST
You couldn't be farther off on Heath Ledger. That man was a brilliant actor and it's evident when you look at his body of work. He would disapear into the greatest of his characters. Take a look at Brokeback Mountain for instance. There was no point in that movie where I felt I was watching an actor, but watching the charactor. That lip licking coughing shit that you mentioned is EXACTLY the kind of stuff that needed to be brought to the role of a Joker. Um, *cough*, he's supposed to *lick lips* be *eye role* psychotic! Being in the mental care field, nervous ticks run rampat in the mentally ill. I mean, I love Jack Nicolson, but Ledher's Joker made complete fucking clown shoes out of him. I used to be a big fan of the Burton Batman until I rewatched it this summer. It's not even as impressive as Caeser Romero's from the television show. Not knocking Jack, I'm sure he had fun. But that's all it was. Ledger was both horrific, terrfiying, amusing as hell, and hilarious. Not an easy feat. That being said, the only actor I felt did a really good job in the Burton Batman movies was Michael Keaton. I mean, he was actually pretty amazing and I never bothered to notice when I was a kid. Where the hell is that guy? Let's make another movie where he works in the automotive industry. The timing is right.
Jan. 1, 2009, 6:21 p.m. CST
by Earthquake WestCoast
Hands down the most fun and creative film to come along in a damn long time!! Unlike other films that came out this year, Speed Racer will become MORE POPULAR while those other films will lose fans.
Jan. 1, 2009, 6:31 p.m. CST
by Alex Mack
Seen it 7 times already and it gets better every damn time!!
Jan. 1, 2009, 6:44 p.m. CST
by Alex Mack
She also looked hot when she was all goth-up during the desert race!!
Jan. 1, 2009, 7:24 p.m. CST
Hence the reason I said around his throat. I don't know, they could make something up.
Jan. 1, 2009, 7:24 p.m. CST
Jan. 1, 2009, 8:20 p.m. CST
by Amy Chasing
It's odd that some people are saying 2008 was a bad year for film when there's been Dark Knight, Iron Man, Wall-E, Kung Fu Panda, In Bruges, etc. <P> While 2007 had Diving Bell & The Butterfly, The Band's Visit, No Country For Old Men, There Will Be Blood, Ratatouille, etc. 2007 had some better dramas perhaps. I liked 2007 but was more entertained by 2008. Not because I don't like dramas, but stuff like NCFOM and The Band's Visit while very good aren't what I call great and memorable. <P> In contrast I'll remember 2008's films (especially Dark Knight and Wall-E) as being perfect examples of film making and marketing. Perhaps that's why people didn't like 2008. Hollywood won.
Jan. 1, 2009, 8:36 p.m. CST
hey buddy , your a fucking moron .
Jan. 1, 2009, 8:58 p.m. CST
Both years brought works that I will always consider favs. '07 gave us There Will Be Blood, Pirates 3, The Assassination of Jesse James, The Darjeeling Limited (sorry, but I hated No Country). 2008 is right on par with Knight, Wall*E, Iron Man, Ben Button, Doubt, and hopefully Gran Torino. I think 2009 has a lot to live up to.
Jan. 1, 2009, 11:17 p.m. CST
Nordling-- you did that E.T. write up, right? Yeah I emailed you about that shit. I read it every once in awhile and still get a tear. Fuck. I'm serious. <p> And Quint-- you are the man for resisting cashing in on the Top 10 list. Don't become anything like Capone and you'll be just fine, dude.
Jan. 1, 2009, 11:22 p.m. CST
FUCK INDIANA JONES IV. AND FUCK YOU SPIELBERG!
Jan. 1, 2009, 11:51 p.m. CST
by Alfie Boy
The film should be panned. For the original Producer, Director, and Star who don't really need the money, to allow that drivel to be released was a crime. A complete show of disrespect for the audience and fans who made them what they are. Worst movie of the year.
Jan. 2, 2009, 12:30 a.m. CST
The DCAU owns the live action stuff that is embarrassed of it's source material.
Jan. 2, 2009, 12:43 a.m. CST
by Motoko Kusanagi
You brought this unto yourselves...
Jan. 2, 2009, 1:02 a.m. CST
First of all, I applaud that you didn't make a list. I'm starting to get tired of top whatever lists everywhere I look. It's just some goofball's opinion, and no top whatever list is the be all/end all list of anything. Everything's subjective. <br> <br> Also, I'm glad you liked Speed Racer. I did, too. While it wasn't a particularly great movie, it was fun and it wasn't at all bad enough to warrant going into hysterics and hyperbole.
Jan. 2, 2009, 1:30 a.m. CST
Like what? Transformers? 07 was over rated, every time I left the theater I was underwhelmed and not impressed and wondered just how good some of those actors/directors balls really tasted. Because people sure couldn't get enough of them.
Jan. 2, 2009, 2:06 a.m. CST
...Except for Wall E (not that its bad, just not that good, but nord is a pixar worshipper) and Speed Racer. But Dear Zachary was some powerful shit. STILL haven't/Can't see Let The Right One In.
Jan. 2, 2009, 2:12 a.m. CST
Jan. 2, 2009, 2:28 a.m. CST
...The more I'd rather see Speed Racer on a top then list than Benjamin Button. The former can be chalked up to a special kind of mental defection in the list compiler, the latter is just straight up shitty taste in art.
Jan. 2, 2009, 6:52 a.m. CST
by The Curious Dr Humpp
because he talked during movies. So I guess that murder was pretty much okay by AICN-standards.
Jan. 2, 2009, 7:30 a.m. CST
In the previous script that Lucas was unhappy with but Spielberg LOVED, the one that was written a couple years back and which leaked online this very summer... the vine-swinging and the monkeys are in it. Except it's Oxley that does it, because Mutt wasn't in that draft. I'm not sure how Spielberg could love this idea, but I submit to you the following: Harrison Ford swung on a vine a couple times in the first Raiders. It looked difficult and had serious weight and heft behind it as he struggled to swing out over the river or across a small chasm or whatever. If they did it for real, and made it look rough, and didn't have it look effortless and weightless and magic with a crapload of CGI like it did in this movie, we wouldn't be bitching. But they did, and we are.
Jan. 2, 2009, 9:11 a.m. CST
At first, I disagree with you about Brokeback Mountain. This is something that I call "great movie syndrome" (until I find a better name): Sometimes it can happen that people think that someone gives a great performance, just because he was in a great movie (what Brokeback Mountain without a doubt is). This happens all the time (another example might be Ralph Fiennes and Schindler's List).<br> The point is: I don't think that Ledger was a horrible actor, he was just an okay actor. He never impressed me with anything but also never annoyed me (before TDK).<br> And seriously, his take on The Joker was a gimmick! Pretty actor in ugly Make up, Oscar Nominee totally going apeshit crazy! And even more important: He was never threatening! He was ridiculous. Like in the scene where he blew up the hospital and was jumping up and down in a nurses dress, because the button didn't work. He was just playing Jack Sparrow in ugly make up, and anybody is afraid of Jack Sparrow? <br> Sorry, it absolutely didn't work for me and I think any award that is linked to this performance has just to do with his early death.
Jan. 2, 2009, 9:43 a.m. CST
by Big DM
That's like that quote whore Ben Lyons saying I Am Legend is one of the best movies ever made. Perhaps Crystal Skull disappointed fans of the earlier trilogy, but it was in no way a sub par movie. Not as trite and pandering as a Tyler Perry movie, or as simplistic and money hungy as the latest Saw. And speed racer felt like someone threw an open keg of Skittles at me.
Jan. 2, 2009, 9:48 a.m. CST
Thats been my point exactly. All these people crying "But they did ridiculous shit in the first 3 Indy movies too!!" need to wake the fuck up. It is not the concept itself that is shit. It all lies in the execution. The vine swing and the waterfall ride would have been fine IF they were executed with some fucking class and if Spielberg used part of his brain for something other than counting his suitcases full of cash. The Indy world should be all about the practical. Learn to limit yourself to the exact sort of methods you would have used in the 80s you dumb fucks. I'm not saying make it look dated. Used today's tools, sure-- but don't make ridiculous cartoony shit you wouldn't have done back then, its that simple. If you wanna throw a jeep off a waterfall-- fine. Throw a jeep off a real fucking waterfall and people will love it.
Jan. 2, 2009, 10:52 a.m. CST
by Alfie Boy
with a history of other shit Tyler Perry movies. In other words, he's (is he even a he...really?) giving the fans of his shit more shit who like shit like that. Prior Indy gave us a look at a more expanded adventure tale. This Indy was just ludicrous, with a shit story, and shit characters (what is with Spielberg and his love for this Shia anyway?), and shit situations that made it look silly. Fuck Harrison Ford, who puts down Han Solo but who has the indecency to accept the shit he did in Indy4. Talk about a money whore. I guess it costs money to keep a younger girl like "Ally McBeal" happy.
Jan. 2, 2009, 10:52 a.m. CST
Watch GET SMART, OUTPOST, TIMBER FALLS, MEET THE SPARTANS, THE COTTAGE, THE HAPPENING, THE PROMOTION, PROM NIGHT and ADULTHOOD - then tell me that INDY 4 was the worst film of 2008.
Jan. 2, 2009, 11:15 a.m. CST
You sat through all those? Hahahaha.
Jan. 2, 2009, 12:01 p.m. CST
I have it with Crusade, nobody can make time travel but the first two films in the series almost does. Lack of memorable soundtrack, mystery roads in jungle, awkward magnet "chase" in the warehouse, monkeys, and I think it needed one more location, perhaps when you say your going to England one needs to go to England in a film. The villians, Oxley, the kid, Marion, Cold War paranoia, and the aliens and their reason to be here was all fun. Name a better fourth in a series, Bond excluded!
Jan. 2, 2009, 12:23 p.m. CST
Jan. 2, 2009, 12:32 p.m. CST
But The Lost World (Jurassic Park 2) was horrid. As far as "blockbuster" movies go Spielberg made my favorite film (Jaws), and my most hated film (The Lost World).
Jan. 2, 2009, 12:32 p.m. CST
so over the top i just stopped caring . i couldnt suspend disbelief anymore and just assumed Indy and his family were some kind of invincible supermen (maybe clones created by nazis to fight commies?). the three waterfalls bullshit sealed it. even worse than swinging shia.
Jan. 2, 2009, 12:33 p.m. CST
but only by a hair over Indy IV. you could tell he just wasnt in to them.
Jan. 2, 2009, 12:36 p.m. CST
To say it is worse than Indy IV is just fucking asinine. No fucking way was there anything in Lost World as bad as Tarzan Shia or CG Gopher or Jeep bending a branch Looney Toons style. No fucking way.
Jan. 2, 2009, 12:44 p.m. CST
i cant remember exactly, its been awhile. i just remember begging for all the good guys to be eaten. they were insufferable. While they were so busy trying to save the dinos, the dinos were eating everyone they could get their hands on. you would think some self-preservation would kick in eventually. when that dumb julliene moore bitch replaced the bullets with tranqs while T Rex is eating everyone, i was like "someone please kill this bitch".<p>plus it was just lazy directing, but really both movies sucked ass.
Jan. 2, 2009, 1:03 p.m. CST
Other shitty films I saw were: THE OXFORD MURDERS, 10,000 BC, NEVER BACK DOWN, SAW 5, FUNNY GAMES and DOOMSDAY.
Jan. 2, 2009, 1:05 p.m. CST
Still one of Spielberg's best action sequences, even if the rest of the movie's just mediocre.
Jan. 2, 2009, 1:06 p.m. CST
I've said many times on these boards - some great action sequences aside, the film was a utter disaster. <p> I think I'm getting sick of Will Smith.
Jan. 2, 2009, 1:16 p.m. CST
Jesus Christ, I fucking pray they were bootlegged copies.
Jan. 2, 2009, 1:58 p.m. CST
I think the difference here, and I realize that it's an obvious one, is that a lot of people expected those movies you listed to be crap... whereas they hoped INDIANA JONES AND THE CRYSTAL SKULL FUCK would be great. <p> It therefore makes it worse than those other films. <p> Not saying I necessarily agree that it was the worst film of the year (hello THE LOVE GURU) but there you go.
Jan. 2, 2009, 2:17 p.m. CST
Nordling, I have to agree with you on Indy.Fantastic waste of a film.
Jan. 2, 2009, 2:31 p.m. CST
Worst Film To Gross Over 300 Million<p>Then we can add Spiderman 3, Transformers, Pirates At Worlds End and Shrek 3 to the list.<p>And bitch as you may about CGI monkeys, gophers, nuking the fridge (can AICN officially take credit for that term?), aliens, Shia and the rest, I still say Spielberg can stage and shoot action set pieces (the rocket sled room fight, and yes, the jungle truck chase) with the best of them...
Jan. 2, 2009, 2:42 p.m. CST
by just pillow talk
No matter one's hopes that Indy 4 would have delivered something to the same level as prior films, the massive disappointment some may feel does not make it a worse movie than say, oh Baby Mama and What Happens in Vegas. Yes, even with the tons of dumb shit that occurred in Indy 4, it is by no means a worse film then those two inhumane acts that were created to wipe clean one's senses. <p>D.Vader - Lost World did have the gymnastic kick (GYM-DINO-KATA!), which one could argue equals Shia's vine swinging moment.
Jan. 2, 2009, 2:48 p.m. CST
Vaughn took the bullets out of Postlewaite's gun to fuck him over. <p> And no fucking way is the gymanstic raptor kick anything like Shia's vine swing. For one thing its a practical effect which automatically makes it 10 times more tolerable. And secondly, it makes sense with her charactetr-- as she is discussing gymnastics the whole fucking movie. Shia swinging on vines, communicating with monkeys, and sword fighting like Douglas fucking Fairbanks is such a whacked out, out of fucking nowhere shockingly "What the fuck is happening?!!" moment it makes me want to spit. There is absolutely no comparison here.
Jan. 2, 2009, 2:51 p.m. CST
...needs to take a whole lot into consideration. Obviously we are not counting straight to DVD Troma type films which budgets under 150k. And you can't really count movies like Meet The Spartans in my opinion. Even the filmmakers themselves understand these are just products to milk cash out of dumb hard working fucks. They never intend for these to be actual films. They know they are making shit. You wouldn't compare an Ed Wood movie to a Spielberg movie because they are just totally different animals. <P> Given the budget, the cast, the caliber of production talent involved (not even counting the first 3 films mind you) Indy IV was the worst film of the year for me, hands down. Something like the Incredible Hulk is fucking Chinatown compared to Indy IV.
Jan. 2, 2009, 2:56 p.m. CST
by just pillow talk
Practical effect or not, it was horrible. I suppose if Paula Dean was in Lost World, she would have cooked up a deep fried raptor recipe to save the day, and since it was her character, that would have made sense too.<p>Sigh. Both scenes blew in each of the movies. I mean, WTF are they thinking when they initially kick around these ideas. Do they really think they will work and look good?
Jan. 2, 2009, 3:02 p.m. CST
It does suck massive balls. I'm just saying that doesn't compare to 35 minutes of horrible nonsense in Indy IV. Shia getting whacked in the balls repeatedly by branches. What the fuck?!! Who other than Sarah Palin's retarded infant finds that shit funny? <p> That trigger-happy vet that blasted the dude in Benjamin Button for talking. He should have shot Spielberg in the face instead.
Jan. 2, 2009, 3:06 p.m. CST
....I'm sorry. How about we just make it a shot in the face with a stream of urine instead of a bullet? Okay. Lets go with that.
Jan. 2, 2009, 3:13 p.m. CST
...people can shit on Cruise all they want-- but he handled that like a fucking gentleman. <p> "Why did you do that? Why would you do that to me? I'm answering your questions. I'm doing my job. Why would you do that?"
Jan. 2, 2009, 3:22 p.m. CST
to name Speed Racer worst film, and not obvious drivel like Meet The Disaster Hottie Movie. Those were designed to seperate the "young-dum-and filled with cum" from their allowance.<p>Argue his point, but admit he didn't choose the obvious. Yes Danny, I'm basically repeating what you just said. Capone's conclusion was just different.<p>By the way, just caught Ghost Town last night, and was suprised (not by Ricky Gevais) that it was such a cleanly directed, well paced, tart but still sweet romantic comedy that didn't end with the obvious. Keopp may be a better director than script doctor.
Jan. 2, 2009, 3:27 p.m. CST
I guess South Park said it all for me. It's not that it was actually the worst thing released this year. Let's be honest. There are quite a few worse movies that made their way to the big screen. But nothing was so promoted, nothing so attached to American film iconography, and nothing so deserving of being adored, as this movie. And it stunk up the theater. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm not buying the DVD. Hell, I didn't even go to see it more than once. It's such a strange thing too; because I just don't get how Spielberg went from regaining so much integrity with MUNICH to this in a few short years. It doesn't make any sense. Is he bi-polar? Simply put, it was the worst BECAUSE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE BEST. There's just no excuse for that kind of incompetence. This wasn't about suits dictating to Spielberg or Lucas how to make a kick-ass adventure flick with one of pop culture's greatest heroes. We all know that didn't happen. This was them. All them. Even if Spielberg was beating his head against the wall to deal with Lucas's ego, he should've cut his losses and ran at the script's mention of monkeys and a "snake rope."
Jan. 2, 2009, 4:27 p.m. CST
My # 3 film of the year, DEAR ZACHARY, plays at 11 PM EST on MSNBC this Sunday. Do yourself a huge favor and see this compelling documentary.
Jan. 2, 2009, 4:37 p.m. CST
Jan. 2, 2009, 4:38 p.m. CST
Your taste in film is 10 times that of Capone's. And not only does he get a black box, but I hear a vicious rumor he actually gets paid to spew his retarded bullshit.
Jan. 2, 2009, 5:03 p.m. CST
Am I the only one who thinks this movie is brilliant. It's like a Pedro Almovodar film on crack. What American filmaker has tried to deal with so many issues seriously and in an engaging and intellectually satisfying way. this movie's got balls and I'm amazed it even got made. Time will be very kind to it.
Jan. 2, 2009, 6:52 p.m. CST
The Winnebago/window dangling off the cliff sequence VS. the monkeys and the nuke fride sequence. NO CONTEST.
Jan. 2, 2009, 9 p.m. CST
by Bubba Gillman
to call Indy 4 the worst film of the year. I don't care if you were disappointed, hated it or whatever. Calling it the worst film of the year, saying Lucas and Spielberg have lost it, etc. is just more of the same internet party line. As for me, I just watched it again and found it just as entertaining as the the first time I saw it, and consider it at least on par with Last Crusade. There's no more an over reliance on CGI here than there was an over reliance on matte paintings, models and styrofoam giraffes in the originals. I wish the script, particularly the denoument, had been given a few more run throughs (even though I don't mind and actually like the aliens/chariots of the gods angle). But the action scenes were well staged, the pace brisk and most of all I got a glimpse of the guy I grew up idolizing - Harrison seemed like Harrison again. And that, friends, is my two cents.
Jan. 2, 2009, 10:29 p.m. CST
Way worse than KOTCS, which was at least half of a good movie. Last half hour was lame.
Jan. 3, 2009, 5:23 a.m. CST
by Mr Gorilla
Just to be clear.
Jan. 3, 2009, 5:25 a.m. CST
by Mr Gorilla
Either way, the point is, KOTCS was a fun, silly, entertaining two hours. What were you expecting? Was swinging on the vines any siller than that big in Temple of Doom when the mine car comes off the rails - and lands right back on the rails?
Jan. 3, 2009, 6:27 a.m. CST
by Mr. Zeddemore
Kung Fu Panda and What Happens In Vegas were the worst films of the year.
Jan. 5, 2009, 8:01 a.m. CST
No way is "Indy IV" the worst of the year. It's just the latest "Lucas Didn't Make the Movie I Wanted" flick to make $700 million worldwide and disappoint the geeks who schedule their years and income around ComicCon. For the rest of humanity, it was a fun romp with Harrison Ford returning to form as Indy, some crazy action, and a plot ripped not from today's headlines a la the Bourne and Bond movies but the headlines of yesteryear just like the first three. I hope they make another one.
Jan. 5, 2009, 9:22 a.m. CST
Cunt would be more appropriate.
Jan. 5, 2009, 10:10 a.m. CST
I automatically hate you and everything you stand for if you included Indy 4 or The Happening on your worst list. The worst films this year were far more mediocre (10,000 B.S., Let's Not Meet Dave) just as I Know Who Killed Me was not the worst film of last year thanks to its aggressive lunacy.
Jan. 5, 2009, 11:58 a.m. CST
director didn't do The Host. That was Joon-ho Bong. Ji-Woon Kim did the awesome Tale Of Two Sisters.