Dec. 30, 2008, 2:15 p.m. CST
That other thread cracked me the hell up.
Dec. 30, 2008, 2:19 p.m. CST
If this was the Interview Wars, Capone would be Rambo.
Dec. 30, 2008, 2:27 p.m. CST
by IndyAbbey Jones
best of 08..yep i said it
Dec. 30, 2008, 2:35 p.m. CST
Or the fourth brother, scammer, thief and kidnapper? (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/oct/14/usa.secondworldwar) <p> <p> Oops, I guess not. That was saved for the sequel, I'm sure. Right? Right?
Dec. 30, 2008, 2:41 p.m. CST
by Lord John Whorfin
Beaks, you should ask yourself this question before posting an article. If not, and with you, it hardly ever is, then post it on Collider.
Dec. 30, 2008, 2:56 p.m. CST
by Lord John Whorfin
has a Mr. Beaks article ever showed up in the Top Talkbacks list on the right? I doubt it.
Dec. 30, 2008, 3:30 p.m. CST
Did have the balls to ask Zwick why he white washed history and compromised the dramatic possibilities of his story so that he could appeal to Jewish voters at the academy?
Dec. 30, 2008, 3:38 p.m. CST
some of enjoy reading thog
Dec. 30, 2008, 3:40 p.m. CST
i don't know what thog is.<p> some of us enjoy reading thoughtful conversations about film and art. thanks.
Dec. 30, 2008, 4:16 p.m. CST
Fucking eh let's see even more sad old ww2 holocaust related film. Go Jews! Whoohoo.
Dec. 30, 2008, 4:30 p.m. CST
Dec. 30, 2008, 4:47 p.m. CST
One of the best movies of all time.
Dec. 30, 2008, 4:55 p.m. CST
You people disappoint me. (except for the "thog" guy. you're all right)
Dec. 30, 2008, 5:46 p.m. CST
by hank quinlan
But I saw Defiance and it's not very good. Old fashioned and silly. It's clear For Whom The Bell Tolls (the movie) was a big influence and that's about the level it's on. Boring, disjointed, and simplistic. At one point, Daniel Craig gives a big speech to the new Jews in the camp...while riding a white horse. That's the level it's on. I was sort of shocked someone as smart and accomplished as Zwick made such a lame script. His socially conscious action epics get a tad heavy handed and unwieldy but are usually fun, creamy Hollywood entertainment (which I dig). Skip this one...
Dec. 30, 2008, 6:51 p.m. CST
The 9/11 commission cited a "failure of imagination" when it cam to forseeing the 9/11 attacks. This, combined with the notion that our government in particular is all seeing and at times powerful on almost a metaphysical scale is why I put very little stock into Zwick's talk on "denial". His protagonist FBI agent, played by Denzel Washington in The Siege at one point lectures the CIA operative that they wouldn't have the "boogeyman" of the Soviet Union to bandy about any more. I am keen to ask Mr. Zwick if he's read the declassified Vernona files and wants to call a few hundred spies littering our government in the 50's a "boogeyman". As for Defiance, my one sole hope is that it does not indulge in the same hopelessly splitting of moral difference engaged in films like Munich.
Dec. 30, 2008, 7:32 p.m. CST
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
Seriously, the resistance fighters of the Warsaw Ghetto come to mind. And I have two words for you: Krav Maga. You don't mess with Israeli Special Forces.
Dec. 30, 2008, 8:37 p.m. CST
I guess we can take equal enjoyment in similar, real events of the past too.
Dec. 31, 2008, 7:17 p.m. CST
First off, ANOTHER film about WWII and the Holocaust?! I'm of the school that the subject matter doesn't matter as much as the story and execution except in this case because Jesus H. Christ on crack cocaine we've seen this topic covered to death already! The story is fairly pedestrian and seriously is there no other topic out there for historical period pieces. Hell, back in the day (1950s/60s), they managed to do every time period from the ancients to WW1 as well 2, but now it's just WW2 and the Holocaust over and over again. We get it, it was a terrible event, but so was Genghis Khan who killed more people (and more brutally), Stalin, Mao, etc. etc. I've said it before and I'll say it again, why no movie about that other group the Nazis went after the Roma (Gypsies)? They were pretty much victims of a Holocaust of their own and are still discriminated against in much of Europe. IF there is even to be a retread of this well worn topic. And right after Valkyrie too! I'm boycotting and I'll watch this maybe on cable TV 2 years from now if it gets rave reviews.