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Do you like to talk during movies - I have an article for you to read!

Hey folks, Harry here. I am not advocating that people that talk in movies be shot, merely pointing out that if you choose to talk in a movie theater during a movie - that there are in fact documentation that you could be shot for talking during a movie. And that before you open your mouth to begin whatever urgent matter that is on your mind, that you weigh whether or not what you have to say is worth being possibly SHOT while watching the movie you paid to watch (and not talk during). This matter came to mind via an article from Philadelphia. You can read the article here! Now - I need to be clear here. This James Joseph Cialella Jr is no hero of movie theater attendees. I mean, talking is rude enough. But by pulling out his gun and shooting the rude movie theater talker - he wound up causing an even worse disruption. First - there was the GUNSHOT. How fucking annoying. I mean, celphone ringtones are annoying enough, but an actual GUNSHOT? Then, you can bet there was screaming and crying caused by the gunshot. Then... the fucking Police had to barge into the movie, make an arrest and take down statements from audience members that witnessed this. All of this disruption began though - because 1 person was talking in a movie theater. Don't be that one person. Be quiet. Enjoy the movie. Shhhhh.

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  • Dec. 27, 2008, 1:26 p.m. CST

    First

    by SomaShine

    And shut the fuck up during the movie

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 1:29 p.m. CST

    I love...

    by T-RACE

    ... how the message is don't talk during movies or you'll get shot. There's no sympathy for the guy whatsoever.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 1:30 p.m. CST

    I whisper...

    by GeorgieBoy

    Rather than talk. And it's always quick quips.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Funniest part...

    by Greenleaf1

    ...was that the guy just sat back down and watched the movie until the police got there and arrested him. I have sympathy for the man who was shot, but also for the IDEA that a man should be able to watch a movie in a theatre in peace.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 1:34 p.m. CST

    I'd rather the gunshot...

    by Flim_

    ...and the ensuing chaos caused by the gunshot than hearing people talk loudly enough that others will be disturbed. Thank you.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Is Moriarty now at his other site full time?

    by drturing

    cause i may stop reading AICN.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 1:36 p.m. CST

    GeorgieBoy you fucking douche

    by drturing

    whispering is just as bad. you just admitted to being an inconsiderate, douchey, self absorbed, rude, ill mannered, sociopath who cares not one whit for the collective shared experience. stay at home and do your MST3K shtick there you fucking tool.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 1:36 p.m. CST

    2 things

    by killianx

    didnt this guy shoot his father? And I think this posting is in bad taste!

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 1:42 p.m. CST

    drturing

    by Stengah

    why would you want to go to moriarty's? he's a fag.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 1:42 p.m. CST

    So Just How Long Will It Be...?

    by ArcherNX01

    'Til Metal detectors appear in theaters? I can totally see the over-reaction.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Unless your name is Joel Hodgson, shut the hell up during movies

    by John Maddening

    And Joel, if you're going to talk, you'd better have Servo and Crow with you.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Movie Talkers are scum

    by chaoslover01

    But no one deserves to get shot. Except maybe the bitch behind me the other night who had clearly already seen the movie once. She was qouting the movie, and then saying things to her friends like 'I love this next part," followed by telling everyone in the theater what was going to happen in the next scene. I was so pissed off I turned and told her to "Shut the fuck up". She got all indignant, gave me a dirty look, and kept right on talking. Management gave me a voucher for a free movie, but wouldn't do anything about teh bitch who was talking. Jesus, I hate people sometimes.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Just curious, were the talkers black?

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    Reality is that any movie I've been to where people talked 99.9% of the time there were black. It may be a cliche but sadly it's true. That is my personal experience and has nothing to do with racism but just mere fact of what I've personally encountered. <BR> <BR> While I don't condone what this man did to shut those people up I do applaud the fact that this happened and thankfully no one was killed. I hope this sends a message to people to STFU during a movie.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 1:49 p.m. CST

    ALSO: Stop flashing your bright phone screen on and off!

    by Yotz Von Frelnik

    This is another thing that they need to address: the bright flicker out of the corner of your eye from some person's or peoples' cell phone screen(s) while they check every goddamn message that comes in! My father was in the hospital at what turned out to be near the end of his life, and even THEN I got up and went to the rear of the theater to take my incoming messages from my family. Unless you know you have a matter that relates to the future of humanity in the balance, deal with your self-important bullshit messaging out of range of the viewing area.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 1:50 p.m. CST

    This guy is a hero

    by MattmanReturns

    I honestly have ZERO sympathy for movie talkers and cellphone assholes.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 1:53 p.m. CST

    Just curious, were the talkers right handed?

    by CENOBITE

    Because us lefties are freakin saints. You can say it's not racism until you are blue in the face, AllPowerfulWizardOfOz, but it is.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 1:55 p.m. CST

    CENOBITE

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    I live in Baltimore, MD. Sadly that is a true accounting and it's fact. Hell Chris Rock even has a whole routine about it. Demographics are what they are and facts are facts.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 1:56 p.m. CST

    drturing....mori's new site sucks ass

    by bacci40

    the layout stinks....the writing is pretty poor...and they are still in beta testing...and that dude deserves a freaking medal...i am sick of people who think the theater is their home living room...STFU

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Not just blacks, AllPowerful...

    by Little Beavis

    ...it's the mezicans too. Oh yeah, and white trash assholes.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 1:57 p.m. CST

    pulled the .38 out of his SWEATPANTS

    by runrun

    The shooter is always a guy wearing sweatpants.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 2 p.m. CST

    Maybe if we toned it down a little?

    by The Funketeer

    Like say getting smacked around with the business end of a flashlight.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 2 p.m. CST

    And don't be a whiny bitch when called out on it either!

    by Frisco

    Seriously, I hate that shit. If the opening credits are barely over and you have already blinded other theater-goers for the fourth time by opening your mobile phone don't be fucking butt-hurt when someone asks you to knock it off. THEY are not being unreasonable, you miserable pissant, YOU are. That goes for loud talkers, seat kickers, highly vocal "white people are so stupid!" horror movie aficionados, and every other asshole who doesn't know how to behave in public. GOSH

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 2:03 p.m. CST

    No sympathy for assholes

    by ebonic_plague

    I bet that guy (and his kid) shut the fuck up the next time someone turns around and glares at them.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 2:03 p.m. CST

    I wouldn't have a problem at all...

    by Anti-fanboy

    ...if theaters posted ushers with zipguns for lethal enforcement of the "quiet please" announcement. Seat-kickers would also qualify.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 2:07 p.m. CST

    My hero

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    That simple. Is it an overreaction? Sure, but people who talk in movies have for too long suffered few if any repercussions. Maybe this will shut their loud, obnoxious, sanctimonious asses up for a while. Fucking douches.<p>Is that harsh? Of course. But why not? Why should I care what happens to them? Seriously. Do any of these fucking cocksmokers give a rat's ass about anyone else? Absolutely not. No way. So please explain to me why I should give a crap if they and their families have their brains blown out the backs of their skulls?<p>These are, in fact, the same motherfuckers (see article) who jump up and act all sanctimonious, self-righteous, and offended when you tell them to shut the fuck up. Gots to fucking defend their God-given inalienable right to talk in a picture and just generally be a fucking ass-maggot. Well, quite precisely, fuck them. I do, in fact, hope that they all get shot in the fucking head.<p>And I fucking LOOOOOOVE those who bemoan the decline of civility at gunplay, but never have a fucking word to say during when these rancid, donkey cum-guzzling tampons are chatting up the election results or Paris Hilton's latest fiasco.<p>Fuck those talking motherfuckers and fuck those who bemoan their shooting. Those insolent retards flouted civility and common decency so, if they received some incivility and uncommon indecency in return, then they got ex-fucking-actly what they asked for and deserved.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Remember when Robot Chicken was funny?

    by Jodet

    That was a long time ago. Oh, and I LOVE my home theater. I only go to the movies twice a year these days. Although 2009 looks OUTSTANDING, Terminator, Watchmen, Star Trek....

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Dear Harry

    by MrClark

    If the sound of gunshots in a movie theater bothers you your in the wrong line of work.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Who hasn't already read this article?

    by Kapowski

    AICN is slowwwwwwwwww

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 2:16 p.m. CST

    He didn't shoot the guy at first...

    by Dreamwriter

    Apparently, he told the two talkers to be quiet, they kept talking, he threw popcorn at them, and the talking guy confronted the man. So not only was this guy rude enough to talk during the movie (and that's a movie where dialogue is occasionally hard to understand at first), but he *kept* talking, and then confronted the person asking them to be quiet. Not saying it's worth being shot (note, though, he wasn't killed), but from those actions it shows that the man was being exceptionally rude and was probably annoying a lot of people. If it were me, I would have walked out of the movie and complained to the manager, got those two kicked out and myself a pass to the next showing.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 2:23 p.m. CST

    Someone had to be made an example of.

    by FlickaPoo

    ...it will probably take a couple more for the message to sink in though.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 2:25 p.m. CST

    Maybe I should change my gunshot ringtone

    by Gozu

    I don't know.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 2:26 p.m. CST

    text during the movie...JUST AS BAD.

    by slder78

    Unless, you're a doctor, or Jack Fucking Bauer there's no reason for you to be in a theater and use your cellphone. Seriously, do your friends really need to know that you are "watching the movie and you are ROTFL and we should meet later cuz u r gonna luv the new club on 3rd st ;) <3"? No. So turn off the fucking phone and take the thumbs you use to text and shove them up your self important ass. Thank you. <p> "I'm Barack Obama and I approved this message."

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Isn't Harry a movie talker?

    by Eyegore

    I'm pretty sure I can remember at least a couple times where he describes watching a movie and making giddy comments to the unlucky person next to him, as told in his review.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 2:28 p.m. CST

    LOL! Harry you so funny!

    by blindambition238

    LOL I mean the best part is the fact the guy was with his son! Now he's dead! Now the son has no father cause he saw him get murdered in front of his eyes! LOL Loser! He'll probably grow up to be Batman, except poorer! Harry you're awesome!

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 2:28 p.m. CST

    The guy got shot in the arm.

    by ebonic_plague

    He got off easy. I heard this one time a guy who was talking through a movie got stabbed in the mouth with a number 2 pencil. Sweartagod.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 2:31 p.m. CST

    One random story

    by White Goodman

    Back when I was in high school, a bunch of friends including my 15 year old brother were watching a double feature. We were being good and not talking. Across the aisle there were a few guys in there 20's talking throughout the movie. One douche bag would not shut up. During the intermission my brother turned to the douche bag and loudly said, "If you say one more word during this next movie, I'm going to take off my boot and beat you to death with it." I've never laughed so hard. About 5 minutes later the guys got up and left the theater.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Can't condone, but I understand

    by deathbird

    (Joker voice) Introduce a little order in the theater.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 2:35 p.m. CST

    White Goodman?

    by Mistahtibbs

    You have one ballsy brother. 15 years old and calling out the guys in their 20's? Oh, and funny as shit too. HA! MT

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 2:36 p.m. CST

    All movie talkers should be shot

    by liljuniorbrown

    On a lighter note, I only go to theaters that enforce the rules.They cost a little more but they use cell phone scramblers,have ushers in the theaters,and usualy have pretty damn good food. I would much rather pay close to twenty bucks a ticket than i would listen to some douche bag moron and his friends cackle like school girls during the movie. My all time pet peeve though is the jack asses that try out there "Jerry Seinfeld routine" during the opening credits. They rank up there with the mouth breathers that have to comment on every fucking trailer.. " I gutta see that one maaaan" or "Thats gunna blow,it looks sooo stoopid" Idiocracy man, Idiocracy.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 2:37 p.m. CST

    Mistahtibbs

    by White Goodman

    Yeah, the kid was fearless back in the day. I'm pretty sure if they had kept talking he would have went after the guy.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 2:37 p.m. CST

    Kids...

    by Andillformthehead

    Also don't bring your kids (babies) to a movie that you know their are going to action (loud explosions, etc). They will cry. Also don't bring your older kids, sit them behind me and then go sit further up and enjoy the movie in peace while your spawn yap incessantly. You spread your legs or blew you load so guess what? You've had your fun; you play you pay. Either get a babysitter or you don't get to see a movie.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 2:38 p.m. CST

    there not their

    by Andillformthehead

    oh well...

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 2:41 p.m. CST

    Please Don't Sympathize with this Lunatic

    by DeeJay

    The cinema experience is one which is, by definition, a collective social endeavor. The occasional kick to the back of a seat, some occasional talkers, etc. are nothing new to the experience. Only an imbalanced person brings a gun to a theatre, throws popcorn on someone, and continues his/her aggression by shooting the loaded weapon in a crowded setting. On Christmas day, no less. Truth be told, this person is a sociopath. Over the course of several decades, I've experienced chatting filmgoers of various cultural backgrounds and ages, and not one of these people deserved to be assaulted with a .38. If Cialella had enough space to get out of his seat, get close to the survivor, and wound only one person, then the theatre likely had enough seats for him to simply move away from the father and son. The fact that he only viewed pre-meditated violence as an option and sat down in his seat after committing such a crime makes it beyond clear that he was officially off of his rocker. I recognize that any person who spends Christmas Day alone may have a variety of things going through their mind and on their heart. So if Cialella was having a hard time on Christmas Day, I can appreciate that. However, such feelings don't justify consciously going into a theatre and *literally* shooting a gun in the dark. His sick behavior has wounded one person and emotionally scarred numerous others, and he needs to be held accountable for that. As an aside, I'm one of the AICN members who has actually had occasion to go to a theatre which required filmgoers to pass through metal detectors. Such things becomes a necessity after the Cialellas of the world melt down. Additionally, such things mainly detract from the experience of true film lovers. Even still, getting shot and emotionally scarred are not things anyone should experience on Christmas Day.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 2:48 p.m. CST

    Who goes to a movie to talk?

    by Manatee

    It's stupid on so many levels. The only reason a person would talk during a movie is so EVERYONE can hear them. It's the same self-centered horseshit that makes people scream into their cellphones in public places. Guess what... nobody gives a shit about your miserable life! Nobody cares what you think about the freaking movie, either! I'm guessing these are the same jackholes who dream about being on a reality show. They are the star of their own little movie, and we have the misfortune of being part of the supporting cast. Shooting someone is extreme, obviously, but a good pistol whipping is definitely in order.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 2:51 p.m. CST

    It's the Back-Talkers

    by silentjay

    I used to tell people to pipe down with no hesitation. Now, I often think twice because more often than not, it's a group of psuedo-gansters or Nascar Thugs who will not think for a second to just stand up and fight, no matter how politely or logically you try to explain the situation. They just react without thought and pounce the second you tell them that what they're doing may not be accepted by the general populace as considerate. It's a lost cause. Just hope for the best each time you go in the theater.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Shepherd Book says:

    by floggy bottom

    "If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of Hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater."

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Which Would You Prefer?

    by DeeJay

    While watching a movie, would you prefer to hear some occassional chatter between an anonymous father and son, or have someone who looks like D'Onofrio during his final scene in "Full Metal Jacket" fire a GUN in your vicinity? Me, I'll take the chatter... and I'd prefer my loved ones are given option #2, as well.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 2:59 p.m. CST

    by Monkey Butler

    First of all, who the fuck takes a gun to a movie? Fuckwits, that's who. Secondly, who the fuck thinks it's OK to shoot somebody over talking during a movie? Fuckwits who can't use their fists, that's who. And finally, who the fuck shoots someone then sits back down to enjoy a movie while a guy is bleeding in front of them? Fuckwits, that's who. <p> I have zero sympathy for dickheads who talk in movies, but pretty much everyone involved in this story is what is wrong with America.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 3 p.m. CST

    Must have been a theater in Texas.

    by Its a LION

    I hear they get into that kind of thing down there.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 3:05 p.m. CST

    Its a LION:: Yeah, Philly, Texas... its a big town.

    by The Dum Guy

    I think shooting someone is just wrong, like Harry said too loud, but stabbing on the other hand...

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 3:06 p.m. CST

    The Dum Guy: That's where they filmed Rambo, wasn't it?

    by Its a LION

    Loved that movie.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Everything that's wrong with America

    by drturing

    is right here in this talkback. people too afraid to tell fellow moviegoers to be quiet, fear in the dark of strangers, a loss of civic and community organization, knee jerk tabloid stories engendering the most extreme response, loss of manners, the individual's needs trumping all other considerations, online snark and sarcasm, psychopaths with easy access to guns, racist stereotyping, racism, the holidays, and mass entertainment. phew.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 3:10 p.m. CST

    seriously we used to put men on the moon

    by drturing

    now we can't even shop for christmas or watch movies in an appropriate manner. oh and meanwhile, a man who was set to give testimony that karl rove did shady things with voting machines in 2004 was killed in a suspicious plane crash, and everyone instead wants to think about this psychopath.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 3:11 p.m. CST

    no name given..hmm- was it cause it could be a hate crime?

    by Jugdish

    If the guy is black - could this be a hate crime?

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 3:14 p.m. CST

    This is the weirdest talkback ever.

    by dr sauch

    And also, movie talkers should be fucking ejected from the theater forever.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 3:15 p.m. CST

    Stupid Talkers

    by Perceptor

    Think about this... people that talk during movies are stealing from you. You the responsible movie goer have paid for a ticket to see and hear a story unfold before you and movie talkers don't have the respect for the rest of us to shut there mouths. Babysitters, phoners, kickers and talkers all fall into the category of idiot in my book. Sometimes those with an i.q. score lower than the cost of a postage stamp need to have their slack jawed blood lines severed. My vote is for sterilization. I hate to think that another generation of idiots will begot another generation of idiots but I don't think gun play is a good idea... movie theaters are dimly lit and therefore there is a good chance that someone might get hit on accident. As for this being in Texas, I can guarantee it wasn't because this isn't Killadelphia. People down here treat everyone as if they are packing heat which keeps everyone civilized.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 3:16 p.m. CST

    the theaters....

    by Andillformthehead

    Need to do something too. At the theater by me I've seen at least one instance of someone being asked to comply with theater rules and when he was not compliant the cops came and helped him with out of the theater. In this case the guy was sitting in handicap accessible seating. But if others (the talkers, cellphone users, gum snappers, etc) see someone get embarrassed like this then they'll think twice.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 3:17 p.m. CST

    If you read the article

    by Dapper Swindler

    The guy wasn't talking and was then shot. He was talking, they got into an argument, then there was a shot. A little different. But they were both assholes. And this is the kind of thing that happens when two assholes get together.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 3:19 p.m. CST

    I think that if you were good...

    by ballsmcretard

    ...and I mean really good - you could work it in with the movie and no one would ever know. Plus even if you did get caught everyone learns a valuable lesson...shutting the fuck up is essential.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 3:24 p.m. CST

    "What the fuck you gonna do now?

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    You done dropped the pistol when you busted the window. That's your ass I guess. Shh. Somethin' wrong with your lip? Shh Somethin' gonna be wrong you keep making that noise." Eddie Murphy on black theaters.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 3:26 p.m. CST

    Eddie nailed it check this out

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    http://www.last.fm/music/Eddie+Murphy/_/Black+Movie+Theaters?autostart

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 3:26 p.m. CST

    ummmmm harry.. im certain you've been to the alamo drafthouse...

    by seekshelter

    and im certain that you've seen the "we'll take you out" thingies before the movies... are you now the advocate for change?

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 3:28 p.m. CST

    The Survivor Was With His Family...

    by DeeJay

    ... and we don't know if their conversation was of length or volume of consequence. In fact, the one witness who has been quoted thus far did not state that the family was disruptive (this is merely an assumption that many people have made). Since it's pretty clear that the shooter was looking for trouble, and considering the fact that the shooting was his second assault on members of the family, it's presumptive to think that the family was actually causing any real disturbance. Seriously, it would be nice for people to stop fabricating a rationale for a crime that was clearly committed by a person who is not mentally well.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 3:29 p.m. CST

    slder78

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    Bluetooths are just as bad. It's not like you're going to get a call during the movie, but those little lights are distracting when you're in a dark theater.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Grammaton...

    by DeeJay

    ... you do realize that the comedy routine you cite is about 20 years old, don't you? It was also told around the time that Murphy joked about a Black man *never* being President of the US, so you should probably just leave it alone.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 3:32 p.m. CST

    a real person was shot this is no joke

    by ThePilgrim

    the guy even threw popcorn at him before shooting him. No sympathy for this dick who shot the guy- he should have got up out of his seat went to the front told them about the chatterbox and demanded a refund for them not staffing the joint and catching the talker in the first place. Movie theaters need to move to headphone or something. End this stupid bullshit. Making a joke about this is in bad taste. Theres no justification for such an action.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Oh, and don't get the idea

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    I'm racist. When I say he nailed it I'm talking about movie talkers in general. I've had serious run ins with three over the years, and they were all different races. Assholes are assholes regardless of skin color.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 3:35 p.m. CST

    DeeJay

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    I don't recall him joking about a black president. I remember him talking about black secret service agents sidestepping the bullets. Old school Murphy is classic, although I do recall him apologizing a few years ago for his AIDS routine, chalking it up to the immaturity of a young man.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 3:39 p.m. CST

    FIRST POSTERS ARE MORE ANNOYING THAN MOVIE TALKERS!

    by eoneon

    SHOOT THEM ALL!

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 3:40 p.m. CST

    I prefer to burn talkers with my Laser.

    by DerLanghaarige

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Pilgrim...

    by DeeJay

    ... I agree with you.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 3:46 p.m. CST

    I admit I've thought about it.

    by Tacom

    I wouldn't really do it but if I did I'd use a silencer. Wouldn't disrupt the movie.There was this couple behind me talking during THE DARK KNIGHT one time and it was really annoying. Luckily it was the third time I saw it but the people around me were really pissed off.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 3:47 p.m. CST

    Grammaton...

    by DeeJay

    ... it was part of, I believe, "Delirious," when he was joking about Rev. Jesse Jackson's run for President. Near the end of the 1980's Murphy also apologized to homosexuals (as he had mocked them in a number of routines, including "Raw") and later stated that some of Bill Cosby's criticism's of his act had a degree of validity. Point is, and I'm sure you'll agree, that the context of many 1980's jokes can't be fully transposed to 2008-2009.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 3:49 p.m. CST

    Why do I keep coming back here?

    by Unnatural

    Really, this site steals movie tips, ruins unfinished movies with bad reviews, and now this "funny" article by Harry. <BR> Harry, this isn't funny. You aren't funny. Maybe if you had one iota of desire to work on your writing you could make this site better. <BR> This is the last straw. I'm out.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 3:55 p.m. CST

    Unnatural...

    by DeeJay

    ... don't leave, fellow poster. While the article was, by no means, funny, this site still has a lot of viewers who never post. Film lovers like you can have an impact just by posting here. You can help make something good come from the negativity.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 3:55 p.m. CST

    Yippee Kai Yay Mothergunshot!

    by BYOBkenobi

    Walter B will pump you full of lead! SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 3:57 p.m. CST

    should have strangled them!!

    by daddyfatnads

    i hate it when some drunk asshole behind you thinks they are a fuckin comedian when you are trying to watch eastern promises.i hated it so much i followed him home and stabbed him in the spine which worked out great as the cinema i go to is not wheelchair accessible

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 3:58 p.m. CST

    A Three Hour Retread Of Forrest Gump Isn't Worth Twenty Years In

    by mjgtexas

    Should have waited a couple weeks for The Wrestler, gambino.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 3:59 p.m. CST

    A Three Hour Retread Of Forrest Gump Isn't Worth Twenty Years In

    by mjgtexas

    Should have waited a couple weeks for The Wrestler, gambino.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 4 p.m. CST

    Unnatural, you didn't say "Peace!" before leaving

    by Frisco

    WTF, man?

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 4 p.m. CST

    The really sad thing is...

    by DerLanghaarige

    ...that if he would have been shot during a showing of a horror- or actionmovie, there would be now again a huge discussion about how dangerous horror- and actionmovies are, but nobody will accuse Benjamin Button of being dangerous.<br> (Of course I don't think that any kind of movie is dangerous.)

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 4:01 p.m. CST

    i would have shot the rest of the family aswell

    by daddyfatnads

    just saying,thats all

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 4:05 p.m. CST

    I hope DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD talks in movies

    by MCSuchandsuch

    'cause that would be sweeeeeeet. Oh, and someone pass a hat around to collect money for DeeJay's sense of humor.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 4:07 p.m. CST

    You know who the worst kind of movietalker is?

    by DerLanghaarige

    Mentally disabled people. I mean really people who have the down syndrome or something like that. One day I had one of them sitting behind me, always making stupid comments during the movie and now I ask YOU how you tell a mentally disabled person to shut the fuck up without making yourself look like an insensitive prick!

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 4:08 p.m. CST

    Should his shot him in the head several times

    by Akira Cowabunga

    and really done the job right. I usually just quietly stab the motherfuckers who talk near me.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Finally...

    by symon

    This poor, sweat pants-wearing SOB is going to jail for all of us. At Christmastime, the parallel to Jesus is impossible to ignore. Godspeed, dude. If you caused even one other douchebag to think twice before opening his mouth in a theater, it was worth it.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 4:14 p.m. CST

    Mentally disabled

    by Jodet

    Doesn't matter. If you are not up to the behavior required in a particular social situation you shouldn't be there. I had an usher tell me someone 'was retarded' and I told it didn't matter - he was ruining a movie for 400 people who had paid time and money to see it.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 4:18 p.m. CST

    Put All The Talkers In 1 Theatre And Gas Em

    by Frodo T. Baggins

    Hey it worked at Auschwitz. But atleast the Nazis waited for the movie to be over.... I keed

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 4:18 p.m. CST

    remember when cell phones first appeared?

    by soup74

    like 10 years ago, when every single person didnt have a cell phone (not a commentary, everyone just owns cells phones) and i was in a movie, and someone's cell phone rang.. and the person got all embarrassed, and left the theatre immediately to hang up his phone. and i was actually embarrassed for him.. <br><br>i thought..." imagine, your cell phone ringing during a movie.. must be embarrassing." <br><br>fast forward ten years later and people actually pick up their phones and make outgoing calls during the movie.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 4:21 p.m. CST

    Harry should re-post this article...

    by DerLanghaarige

    ...a few days before the next BNAT. Just in case.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 4:21 p.m. CST

    MCSuch...

    by DeeJay

    ... what, on Earth, is your point?

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 4:31 p.m. CST

    DeeJay...

    by MCSuchandsuch

    my point, for you, Earth, and all her children, is this: lighten up. The guy lived. Every single person here has probably been in a theater situation where some jackass was yapping and wanted to do what this guy did. Is anyone here going to copy him? Probably not. Should he go to jail? Yeah, and he is. But should everyone shut the fuck up when they go to a movie, or any social situation with other people that paid their money to enjoy whatever it is that you're ruining? Fucking A. Movie? Shut the fuck up. Concert? Shut the fuck up. I want Michael Bolton to sing to me, not your ass. The point is this- if you break the rules, then you might get broken yourself. Play by the rules. And lighten up, DeeJay. AICN is not the place to get all uppity and sanctimonious. This site is far, far too gone to have much decency or morality, and it never really had that to begin with.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 4:32 p.m. CST

    I think I'm kinda done with AICN as well...

    by Kirbymanly

    Between the obvious conflict of interests, the Amazon links, the Revolution deal, Mori & Harry's studio projects, the HD debacle, the book links, old news stories that were posted days prior on other sites, blatant ads for lasers (and a creepy article about a guy who was enjoying burning things), Harry's gross, graphic sex metaphors in his reviews and articles, Script Girl and basic lack of "cool" news... I think I'm out.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 4:43 p.m. CST

    President Bush, pardon this man

    by Chief Joseph

    Some fat white trash bitch brought her bastard baby to Pan's Labyrinth and it cried during the whole movie.<br> And I agree about texting; at the last movie I was at, some Asian chick kept flipping open this bright blue screen every 5 minutes. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any rules against reading (or sending) text messages, so I really couldn't say anything.<br> Largely because of the advent of cell phones, I only go to the movies around once a year.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 4:57 p.m. CST

    I was hoping this would end up as a talkback...

    by jimmy_009

    ...while I hope the talker survives of course, I also hope the fucker and his family learn a lesson about talking at the movies.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 4:57 p.m. CST

    i like to talk during the trailers

    by slaughterstorm

    especially if they suck

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 4:59 p.m. CST

    slaughterstorm

    by jimmy_009

    Fuck you too then. You're probably that idiot that thinks all his quips are so fucking funny.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 5:04 p.m. CST

    Loud laughers can be annoying too.

    by canopus

    I went to see What Just Happened last month, and some guy laughed hysterically after almost every single line of dialogue. The movie wasn't meant to be a laugh riot, like Something About Mary, I think he was trying to show his friends how much of a Hollywood insider he thought he was, like laughing like a hyena at Bruce Willis with a beard means that he's privileged to know the story behind the scene. Him and the millions that read the same Vanity Fair article, or read the book the movie was based on. I went to the manager and got my money back. The same thing happened when I went to see the Halloween remake, some lady bursted out into laughing fits everytime Michael killed someone. I hate to think what was going on in her mind.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 5:04 p.m. CST

    I don't condone shooting talkers...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...and celltards, but they SHOULD be severely beaten about the face and neck with 12-inch, gravel-filled lengths of garden hose. Until they like it. <p> I fucking loathe those useless sacks of shit. Thank God for home theater.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 5:11 p.m. CST

    Add...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...chair-kickers, parents bringing screeching toddlers and loud-candy-wrapper assholes to that list of "people".

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 5:11 p.m. CST

    besides, benjamin button sucked so bad.

    by slaughterstorm

    i was really disappointed. david fincher has lost his edge. did he make that movie for his mom?

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 5:12 p.m. CST

    I live near this theater.

    by Bubba Gillman

    When it first opened, it was pretty nice and I went all the time. Then it slowly went down hill. I remember the exact day I stopped going. I took my niece to see Toy Story 2 - TOY STORY 2 MIND YOU - and there was a delay because there was a shooting in the screening before ours. I could see if it were The Warriors or something, but Toy Story 2? Anyway, I think we can all agree that talking in the movies is annoying, but not subject to criminal assault. Although in a somewhat related vein, I may shoot someone if VH-1 shows Drumline one more time.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 5:19 p.m. CST

    if people talk during the movie tough titty

    by slappy jones

    if you want silence stay home. if i want to say something I am going to fucking say it.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 5:21 p.m. CST

    What about cell phone users who blab before the movie (and trail

    by still_RuSTeD

    Like 11 year old girls who talk to their friends on cellphones and laugh and giggle then tell them they can't talk right now and take forever to hang up?

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 5:21 p.m. CST

    What about the morons who bring their

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    three year olds to see Rambo at 9 p.m. at night. No joke. And, well said Bubba Gillman. Woody, come out to plaaaaaay. Can you dig it Buzz Lightyear?

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 5:24 p.m. CST

    Gene Siskel

    by canopus

    He used to have a standing offer of ten dollars to movie ushers that would throw out movie talkers. This was back in the 70s and 80s when minimum wage was around 3 dollars an hour, so an usher could rack up some money if he knew Siskel was in the theatre. He said he only had to pay up once.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 5:26 p.m. CST

    hahahahahahahahaha

    by DigitalBeachWar

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 5:29 p.m. CST

    There are certain times when talking is appropriate.

    by WhinyNegativeBitch

    For instance, I went to a 4 film halloween marathon that consisted of truly wretched teen horror films. Screaming, yelling at the screen, shit like that people can deal with. But when you head in to watch a film like Munich or V For Vendetta (two films where we had, like, fucking professional disrupters) I expect you to shut the fuck up and not walk around the cinema talking on your phone. If this guy was indeed talking aggressively enough to raise the ire of a cinemagoer during a movie like Benjamin Button, then the world is a better place with him dead. I'd like to shake his killers hand.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 5:33 p.m. CST

    "I hate it when people talk during dah movie!"

    by JackBauer24

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 5:37 p.m. CST

    This is the same as saying a scantily dressed girl deserved to g

    by DonnyUnitas

    In other words, a complete and total bullshit argument. Taking delight in the physical harm of others is sick. Was the guy a douche for talking? Definitely. But, he didnt deserve to get shot. And anyone that says "oh it was just his arm" has obviously never been shot, or shot at, before. Basically y'all are a bunch of crazy white people supporting the actions of other crazy white people for doing crazy white people things.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 5:37 p.m. CST

    *deserved to get raped

    by DonnyUnitas

    finishing that comment.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 5:38 p.m. CST

    You Must Be Prepared at the Theater

    by Stacy Without An E

    I was so tired of these preening, self-absorbed people on their cell phones everywhere I went, I bought a cell phone jammer. It is such a relief to be able to turn it on and block all these egotistical self-important mutants who use their cell phone/Blackberry/Bluetooth crap when others are trying to indulge in their favorite pastime.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 5:40 p.m. CST

    slappy jones

    by WhinyNegativeBitch

    And if you get shot in the fucking face as a result, I'm going to clap and then find your wife and fuck her before pissing on your grave.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 5:41 p.m. CST

    Jack Valenti...

    by Dead_Geek

    ...is laughing in his grave! Hahahahaha!

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 5:46 p.m. CST

    A few years ago I had the idea...

    by DerLanghaarige

    ...that if I will ever open a movie theatre, that I will hire some security guys. And before every movie I show an announcement, that tells the audience that if they have the desire to disturb the audience, these security guys will show them the exit. (Of course they will only use violence, if they have to.)

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 5:47 p.m. CST

    Reasons to keep reading AICN:

    by Amy Chasing

    The anime column and Twitch. Some of the regulars do still get some cool news from time to time too. <P> Notice Mori isn't a reason and never was. Harry's still good for a laugh though.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 5:47 p.m. CST

    Harry, are you bored of movies?

    by LoneGun

    I suppose, there aren't any films of interest to review at this time. If I recall correctly, the last movie you took any significant time to write about was TWILIGHT, over a month ago. It's been over three weeks since your last dvd review post. (No DARK KNIGHT dvd review?) Will you have a top ten list this year? You didn't have one last year.<p>Or will it just be posts like this one?

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 5:48 p.m. CST

    DeeJay

    by WhinyNegativeBitch

    Bitches like you are why fuckers talk during the movie. Did you read the article? He TOLD THEM TO STOP. They kept yapping. He doused them in popcorn, and THEY STILL KEPT GOING. He only wounded him? Too bad.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 5:54 p.m. CST

    Wow, that is almost unintelligible

    by Emperor_was_a_jerk

    I love this site. Really I do. But that first paragraph is a tough read ("...that there are in fact documentation..."?) Just take a quick Austin City College writing course. It will do the site wonders!

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 5:56 p.m. CST

    Also, I've threatend violence used racial epitaphs...

    by WhinyNegativeBitch

    ...During a movie. I would have gone all the way to violence if the people hadn't gotten up and left. It was war of the worlds. Not a great movie, but anyway...About ten indians line in behind us, and fucking talk and YELL to each other all the way through the first quarter of the movie. My girlfriend at the time tells them to shut up. They do. Until it gets to the bit with tim robbins, where they evidently get bored. One of them makes a phone call, and then starts shouting down the aisle to his friends about whatever was being discussed on the phone. I lost my rag. What I said would probably get me banned from the talkback, but it involved words like curry, smelly, shit, skinned, repulisve, fuck, off, back, to, punjabi, land. Etc. They acted indignant and got up and left. They ruined a movie. A movie that cost me 35 dollars in tickets, plus parking, plus concessions. So they essentially stole 50 bucks and an experience from me. If someone came up to me in the street and tried to steal 50 bucks from me, I'd happily shoot them in the face. Fuck em. It's seriously not like we are talking about people that will be missed.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 5:57 p.m. CST

    Another reason to stay at AICN:

    by DerLanghaarige

    It's hard to explain. It's technically a shithole that stayed out its welcome, but if you get "it" it's a fun place to hang out. Even if you want to strangle at least 95% of the people you meet here, from the talkbackers, to the writing staff. :)

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 5:58 p.m. CST

    DonnyUnitas

    by WhinyNegativeBitch

    "But, he didnt deserve to get shot." Yes. He did. Your analogy is almost correct. Claiming this man didn't deserve to be shot is like a rapist claiming it's okay to rape women because of how they dress. Subhuman scum gets shot. World is a better place. Maybe he will shut his fucking mouth in a cinema and learn to be a civil human being. Otherwise lets hope he's so fucking scared he moves to some savage shit hole backwater where he belongs.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 6:04 p.m. CST

    Theaters should reserve certain screenings

    by NoodlesHahn

    for talkers. Just let the people who want to MST3K a movie ruin the experience for each other. Just maybe one screening a night of certain movies. Also make sure an attendant is at all other screenings to really enforce the rules.<p>I'd probably go to an MST3K screening for a movie like The Spirit. Not to talk, just to listen. It would probably enhance the movie.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 6:11 p.m. CST

    its really scary how many of you want people to get shot

    by slaughterstorm

    really, really fucked up

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 6:12 p.m. CST

    I'm from the UK

    by Hotscot

    ..and when I moved here to California I could not believe how people would actually take and make cell calls in the theater. Or that babies are allowed in as long as an adult takes them. (It's probably just as bad back home now I guess.) For these reasons I absolutely stopped going to the theater. With my large screen and surround system it's now a better experience anyway. Plus with DVD releases you get so many extras. It's a sad state of affairs which I see in society in general, no repercussions for antisocial behaviour, especially the whole "F_ you pal, I'll do what I want" attitude. And that gets passed from parents to children.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 6:22 p.m. CST

    Movie talkers is another example of the end of civilization...

    by Leafar the Lost

    The typical movie talker doesn't give a fuck about what you or I think. They know that the worst thing that is going to happen to them is expulsion from the theater. Then they can come back the next weekend and be assholes all over again. No one deserves to be shot for movie talking. Society, as we know it, is ending.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 6:23 p.m. CST

    The BustedTees girls need to make up a cool T-shirt...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...about the shooter that we can all wear every time we go to the movies. Just picture it...thousands and thousands of movie geeks all over the country marching into theaters with the same uniform...forever. I'd wear that shirt.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 6:23 p.m. CST

    by AJoustra

    using a silencer would have been more courteous

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 6:24 p.m. CST

    it's in philadelphia, naturally.

    by Cotton McKnight

    They threw snowballs at Santa Claus, had a judge and jail at the old Vet, and threw batteries at Jimmy Johnson. They are frustrated losers. The funny thing though is that this guy was watching Benjamin Button.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 6:27 p.m. CST

    ...and yes, in my head the girls sit around and make...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...the shirts themselves. Sort of a slumber party.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 6:33 p.m. CST

    Collision of two extreme brands of modern arseholism

    by quantize

    ...talking in movies/broadcasting/public private conversations on your cell(mobile) phone...no sense of reality outside of your own egotisitical boring world... VS ..gun toting, unable to deal with anger or rage, bizzare sense of entitlement.. Truth is they both probably deserved what they both got/are getting..the completely self centered lack of empathy or sensitivity of both individuals tends to inspire the same in everyone else..an endless spiral and we're on it baby.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 6:34 p.m. CST

    Schaudenfreude (sp?)...

    by The Dum Guy

    That is why it is funny to hear about a guy getting shot, because he was being loud at a movie.<br><br>How many of ya'll here have actually seen someone get kicked out of a movie, for anything?<br>I've seen it only twice.<br>Once while seeing X-Men 2 at a dollar cinema (middle of the day on Wed. for fifty-cents), right before the part where Stryker is getting chained to the plane; Out of nowhere there is this funny smell like something was burning (smelt like the smell when you turn a heater on and the dust inside burns) and the lights came on, and someone yells fire. Well, people get scared and start leaving (I didn't 'cause I won't till I see flames), and in the middle of the audience is this bum wearing camo pants and a camo vest, with a 40 oz. of Schlitz hanging out a huge pocket and the guy was also rolling a cigarette (looked like Tops but could've been weed). The ushers come in tell the guy to leave, he says "Why? I was just rolling a cig, I didn't light it". They make him leave, offers anyone who wants to leave free passes and re-starts the movie (I stayed).<br><br>The only other time was earlier this year when I saw The Eye (I work at the theatre so I didn't pay to watch it). I was sitting near the front and half-way thru the movie I notice alot people I work with coming in and walking to the back. I decide to go smoke a cig and see what the hell was going on. I was hanging out at the box-office and a couple of cops pull up and go inside, then come out with this 19 year guy who was drunk (I heard the conversation, so I know his age). I end up talking to one of the managers and it turns out the guy ate at home, then got drunk with some friends before going to the movie. She (the manager) was pissed 'cause the guy had ate stew and puked carrot and potato chunks in the very back row, she said it smelt like Jack Daniels, puke and stew. She asked how I didn't notice all the shit that was going down, and I said I always sit in the front, so I don't notice all the shit that happens behind me....<br><br>Long story(s) short, out of all the shit people do to annoy others, I rarely see anyone getting kicked out because of it.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 6:44 p.m. CST

    Honestly...

    by ebonic_plague

    ...fuck both of these people. If you antagonize some sociopathic idiot into pointing a gun at you in front of your kid just because you can't keep your fucking mouth shut during a movie, I have no sympathy for you when you get shot. It's like if some asshole thinks its a good idea to feed wild alligators, and then one bites off his leg or eats his dog... sorry bout your luck, maybe next time you won't willfully put yourself in a dumb situation like that.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 6:45 p.m. CST

    A bit extreme

    by SUPERJIM

    Something needs to be done about shit heads to talk at the cinema. 2 come to mind, a guy right be hind me who talked on his phone literally through the whole movie and a girl who put on some crazy fake laugh right the way through another at any slightest attempt at comedy. They should just have ushers telling people to pipe down.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 6:49 p.m. CST

    This is why I have home theater...

    by Warm Soft Lie

    I'm surprised something like this hasn't happened sooner. During the Dark Knight, some loser was literally talking on his cell phone the whole time. While I was contemplating the best way to handle it (so I didn't get shot myself), some other guy in the theater absolutely LOST it and the two went at it in the isle. Between that, his girlfriend screaming obscentites at the piece of shit during his beatdown and Batman kicking some Joker ass, it was the best movie experience ever.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 6:49 p.m. CST

    John Doe would say...

    by WhoDis

    "Wanting people to listen, you can't just tap them on the shoulder anymore. You have to hit them with a sledgehammer, and then you'll notice you've got their strict attention."

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 7 p.m. CST

    All this considered...

    by groorgman

    I think its the begining of the end of the movie theater experience. Home theaters have wayyy better quality everything. You can get the soda and candy cheaper anywhere else. No one is kicking, talking, crying, using phones...etc. The theater's only advantage is having the movies first. But that is cured by patience.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 7:08 p.m. CST

    Hey Harry, How 'bout a DVD article!

    by guerillakarma

    That would be sweet.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 7:09 p.m. CST

    The solution is simple...

    by Darkman

    Don't bring handguns to movies. <br><br> Bring tasers (if you can get one). No one has to die, the talker is silenced and the filmgoing experience can continue unabated. Win-fucking-win.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 7:10 p.m. CST

    Next victim

    by Jaws Wayne

    Can't wait for the big news about an overweight redhead movie geek who got arrested because he green laser-sawed the head off from a guy because he talked to his mate, sitting about 820 feet away from him during UP.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 7:13 p.m. CST

    ...I like the taser idea...just one little yelp.

    by FlickaPoo

    ..."...don't tase me bro!!"

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 7:15 p.m. CST

    Gee, glad I don't go to the movies with some of you.

    by mrfan

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 7:16 p.m. CST

    Stacy Without An E

    by Chief Joseph

    There are cell phone jammers!? Where and how much!?

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 7:17 p.m. CST

    Annoying Douchebags

    by aversiontherapy2

    Self-centred pricks who talk during films might not deserve to be shot but the tazer idea seems fair... I remember watching Dances With Wolves in the cinema and before the stampede scene there's a rumbling noise building. Half the people in the audience whispered to their friends, "Stampede", you know, just to let them know how smart they are. One guy stood up and said, "no shit you morons now shut up." I wish it had been me.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 7:17 p.m. CST

    It's About Frickin Time

    by choonie

    People are SO frickin' Rude, obnoxious and inconsiderate at the theater, I'm personally glad this happened. Thanks!

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 7:18 p.m. CST

    just a theory

    by Potatino

    I reckon people talk at the movies because cellphones give people a sense of empowerment, makes them feel special.. too special to have common courtesy or manners.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 7:25 p.m. CST

    How many of us WANT people to get shot?!?!?

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    Nobody that I've read here WANTS people to get shot. We WANT to go a a public theater.<p>We WANT to purchase a fuckin' outrageously priced ticket.<p>We WANT to see the movie that we've paid to see.<p>We WANT to listen to the dialogue and soundtrack without the distraction of some scum-sucking maggot blithering away to his fucking kid or girlfriend or buddy...<p>And without someone self-righteous asshole telling us how evil we are for delighting in the fact that they're a little bit of justice in the world.<p>That's what we WANT.<p>Nobody WANTS to see people get shot unless, of course, the people WANT to get shot...<p>And blabbing your disgusting fucking pie hold during a public presentation of a movie and distracting the audience and refusing to silence yourself when asked to do so means that you WANT to be shot...<p>And what the fuck is wrong with giving someone what they want?

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 7:27 p.m. CST

    P.S. It's Christmas!

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    And it's far more blessed to give someone an oozing bullet wound than to receive incessant chatter in a movie theater! Ho, ho, shut the fuck up, ho!

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 7:31 p.m. CST

    I wish it had been a baby instead, they are the worst offenders

    by happybunni

    All of that screaming... Seriously, this is a horrible talkback. Doesn't even seem like a joke if it is one. People really deserve to die for talking during a movie? Most of the world is debating whether someone deserve to die if they take the life of another person. Y'all are fucked up.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 7:35 p.m. CST

    My theater story

    by liljuniorbrown

    I went to see Jurrasic Park three on a week night during the summer. My girlfriend (wife now) and I had been fighting and it was kind of a tense date for us. Behind us sat a man and woman in their forty's and four pre teen girls. We put up with the laughing and actinglike dumb asses all the way up until the movie was like thirty minutes in. At that point I could not hear dialouge at all,just laughing and talking from this grown woman and children. I turned around and asked them to please be quiet,to which the lady got all defensive.They were quiet for like ten minutes until "mom" started back up. I turned around again and stated that we couldn't hear and could they please tone it down? This shit went for the duration of the entire movie. I had sent in an usher ,but all he could say was "it's a pg movie, there will be kids in it no matter what". So we gathered our stuff and left. I was beside myself pissed off when here comes that bitch and her future bitch children walking my way. She instructed these brats to look at us and do a big SHHHH all at the same time. I fucking lost it. I stormed towards them and they ran like hell towards the parking lot. By this time I had met up with my brother who was coming out of another movie. We were talking about the bull shit that went down when "dad" came in looking for me. As he rounded the corner I guess he decided the odds were in my favor so he started to turn around and leave. Getting down on their white trash level,we followed him throwing a half full coke at his car wind sheild and pelting him with candy all the while threating to beat his ass and the collective asses of his cunt wife and bastard children. Looking back I over reacted,but I hope it let those idiots know how quick shit can jump off in your direction when you are being huge jackasses. Most of us are not saying we agree with this guy,but we can sympathize with him. Now when that happens I just let the managers know that they owe me money and if they want to know why just ask talky talkerson and his butt fucking friends.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 7:35 p.m. CST

    Tasers are a good idea though

    by happybunni

    People don't deserve to die for being rude. They deserve to get a bit of pain.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 7:40 p.m. CST

    I was there... Almost

    by Yommers

    I was at that very theater seeing the same movie, just a few hours earlier. I woke up to find this article in my newspaper and couldn't help but think how close I was to the event. And there were plenty of jackass talkers at my showing as well. The fact is, that theater just attracts the absolute scum of the earth, in both talking and shooting varieties. I try to avoid it at all costs, and this is why!

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 7:47 p.m. CST

    lol

    by slkboxrman

    i agree with happybunni....babies are the worst offenders or better yet the moronic parents that bring an infant into a movie theatre....and then u sit there and listen to a baby scream intermittently throughout the movie....those mothers or fathers or both should be slapped repeatedly...if u cant get a babysitter, guess what ? u stay ur stupid ass at home and get a bootleg of the movie...other people that should be killed are those that sit and text throughout a movie, take pictures in the dark theatre, and those morons that cant get everything they need before they sit down in a crowded theatre and get up 20 times during the course of a 2 hr movie... i dont understand those that dont piss before they sit down either...ur missin part of the movie..duh... ive held my piss several times during a movie so i wouldnt miss anything... what can i say, i love movies...

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 7:53 p.m. CST

    A personal story

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    Back in the nineties, I paid for myself, my wife, her mother, and my daughter to go see Titanic. Packed theater - no two seats together by the time the movie started.<p>The theater had darkened during the previews and my daughter (six years old at the time and, believe it or not, a courteous movie watcher) had fallen asleep in the chair beside me.<p>Now, that was a chair that I'd paid for; it wasn't like she got in free and I had her unconscious body occupying the unpaid seat beside me. I PAID for that seat.<p>By the time the trailers ended and the movie began, an Hispanic couple entered the theater and climbed the stairs, scanning the darkened theater for two seats together. Now, I should have known something right there - I despise movie latecomers who expect those who arrived early or on time to move over or up or slide down or whatever to accommodate their lack of punctuality.<p>There were absolutely no two seats together to be had in the theater, but there was one seat only on the other side of my daughter.<p>Being the non-racist, romantic that I am and ignoring my usual disdain for the late, I motioned to the couple, picked up my daughter, and deposited her limp, six year old body onto my lap for the three hour stretch ahead.<p>The male of the couple nodded kindly to me and slid down the aisle with his girlfriend or wife to occupy the two seats to my left.<p>It was around Christmas and I was feeling pretty good about my benevolence, despite the uncomfortable dead weight in my lap.<p>I learned my lesson that day, though.<p>The motherfucking SECOND that the dialogue began in the movie that fucking ass-munch beside me started blabbing to his girl. It wasn't too loud at first, but it was odd - the guy spoke quickly to his girl after every, single, fucking line of dialogue. Every one. Without fail. Every line of dialogue.<p>You figured it out yet?<p>It took me a while, but the guy got progressively louder, scene by scene, until I finally realized...<p>His girlfriend spoke NO ENGLISH, ABSOLUTELY NONE.<p>It was so fucking bad that someone would say "no, no" on screen and Mr. Fucking U.N. beside me would lean to his girlfriend and say "el dice 'no, no'" ("he said 'no, no'").<p>And I'm stuck. No amount of shushing will shut this fucker up and I can't get loud 'cause I got a sleeping child in my lap so I've got to listen to every fucking line of dialogue twice - James Cameron's script and the fucking Telemundo translation.<p>If I'd had a gun, I wouldn't have used it, of course. But if I had a silencer on that gun....<p>So I learned my lesson that miserable three hour day.<p>I NEVER give up my seat in a theater. EVER. I don't give a shit if a retarded, quadriplegic, burn victim with two hours to live wheels into the theater and the movie we're seeing is his dying wish. That motherfucker can find another seat and thank the Spanish speaking cocksucker who wanted to give a blow-by-blow translation of Titanic, annoying the guy who was kind enough to give up his paid-for seat so that he and his non-English speaking retarded streetwalker could see the movie together.<p>Fuck 'em both. Fuck latercomers. And fuck movie talkers.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 7:59 p.m. CST

    I Love This Talkback

    by Autodidact

    While movie talkers are indeed living pieces of shit, the guys who really need to be shot are the kicky-feet motherfuckers. There's always some cock licker with bright white brand new sneakers and a bad case of the jumpy feet. When I saw Crystal Skull this guy would not stop kicking his feet until I finally had to say something to him. He said "What the fuck!?" and scowled at me, but stopped kicking his big ape foot in my peripheral vision.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 8:01 p.m. CST

    HAHAHA...my favorite part..

    by brattyben

    is when the guy sat back down to continue watching the movie after he shot the father. Wow. That's dedication.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 8:05 p.m. CST

    In all seriousness

    by Jaws Wayne

    This is a ridiculous story and talkback. Anyone who thinks it's justified what happened should be deeply ashamed of themselves. Imagine yourself as a kid seeing your dad being shot at the cinema by some basket case. Wonderful thought huh ? " Hey dad, I told you not to talk to me, didn't I ? ". Please don't breed you fuckin' idiots.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 8:05 p.m. CST

    Short Summary of Talkikng Experiences

    by Autodidact

    My worst talking experience was in No Country For Old Men. These three old biddies behind me talked back and forth for the entire running length of the film. I spent the last half hour of the film pretending that everyone being killed was one of those dumb old bags.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 8:07 p.m. CST

    No Wait the Worst Was This Retarded Guy

    by Autodidact

    When I saw Speed in 1994 there was a retarded guy behind me who either laughed or asked "what just happened" every time someone finished their line or the setting changed. I really wanted to murder his retarded ass, except it was my second time seeing it so I let him live.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 8:08 p.m. CST

    On babies

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    I give the parents the benefit of a beginning cry and the time to quiet the little crumbcruncher down. Anything after that and it's get that fucker out of here. <p>See, I was a young, idiot father one time (I'm an old, idiot father now) and I made the mistake of taking my six-month old with my wife and me to Speed. We couldn't find a babysitter, my daughter was asleep, and I thought, "What could go wrong? She'll sleep through the movie and we'll get to see it."<p>Big mistake, of course.<p>Ten minutes into the movie (first explosion or loud yell or something), my daughter woke right the fuck up and started crying. I grabbed her cute little butt and rushed out of the theater, mortified that I'd disturbed others.<p>In fact, I didn't return to the movie at all. I stayed with my daughter in the lobby for the next hour and a half while my wife (now ex- ) watched the entire movie and told me about it afterward.<p>This story is why I give crying babies the benefit of the doubt - I made the mistake myself and I grant others the same courtesy that I was granted, expecting, of course, that they'll do the right thing (as I did) if it's required.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 8:11 p.m. CST

    I had to shut someone up today

    by CherryValance

    old couple behind me in Benjamin Button. Motherfucker took a call but because he made it brief I was gonna let it go. But then after that, he kept talking to his old lady as if the phone call signaled recess. I turned around and said "Are you guys gonna talk for the whole movie?". I'm always having to do that to OLD PEOPLE. WTF? I go to matinees to stay away from the damn teenagers. Hey violence schmiolence, I'm sick of rude people. I was considering murder at the beginning of 'No Country for Old Men'. And it would have been an old lady I killed, which would have been kinda ironic. But I 'shhhhh'ed her like a hurricane and then she got pissed off at me and was going to argue that she wasn't doing anything wrong but then I made my crazy face and she shut it. This is why I don't own a gun, which is probably the mistake that Mr. Cialella made. I do love that he sat back down to watch the rest of the movie.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 8:11 p.m. CST

    perfectly ok, just use silencer on your gun

    by pipergates

    and maybe give the talker one warning

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 8:14 p.m. CST

    Here I am, imagining my dad getting shot in a theater...

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    "Die, you talking motherfucker! Die! I fucking told you to SHUT THE FUCK UP, but would you, no? So bleed to fucking death quietly, Dad, so I can see the flick I paid for!"<p>"Oh, and if anybody wants to shoot these self-righteous motherfuckers in the theater who are appalled at my schadenfreude, I promise I won't say a thing!"<p>Is that what you wanted me to imagine? 'Cause I'm happy to oblige. Even threw in a bonus 'cause I always give more than is asked of me. ;)

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 8:16 p.m. CST

    While we're on the subject of movie behavior...

    by SlyAndTheFamilyStallone

    ...why do people bring their 4 year olds to horror films? It's gonna scar the kid and usually they cry and disrupt the movie. This bitch brought her little tyke to see an Aja film, and I was like "that's terrible parenting", so I decided to teach her a lesson...I waited for a "jumpy" part then I kicked the kids seat reeeaaal hard, he flew a mile into the air and jumped in his mom's lap sobbing so hard she left. It caused a small disruption for a few minutes but it was a small price to pay, plus it was the dollar theatre so that doesn't really count.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 8:16 p.m. CST

    Holy crap I just saw WATCHMEN!!

    by BilboFett

    at my local bookstore so I picked it up. Great book.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 8:20 p.m. CST

    On kids...

    by The Dum Guy

    I've heard some theatres have a closed off room that parents can sit it with small children. My question is: Why in the hell would you want to watch a movie in a room with a bunch of crying infants, instead of just staying home and watching a DVD?

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 8:20 p.m. CST

    Seriously, BilboFett?

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    Congrats! Welcome to the party! Great book indeed.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 8:23 p.m. CST

    That's it -- I've had enough of AICN!!!!!!!!!

    by antibody

    I am appalled by the tone of this talk-back. After years of visiting this site daily, I've grown accustomed to a certain juvenile level of commentary. However this is just going too far. I can't believe the savagery here of the comments, starting with Harry's. Please help me to understand this. You are all actually advocating violence against fellow human beings -- and even targeting babies and mentally challenged people -- for no other reason than they've distracted you from an entertainment experience?!?!?! Harry, I personally blame you for starting this one. I've had it with this site -- Good-bye.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 8:23 p.m. CST

    LOFL, SlyandtheFamilyStone

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    That story is excellent. Wish I'd been there 'cause I can't understand to save my life seeing six year olds in fucking Saw or some shit with their trashy parents (who someday won't have a clue in the world why lil' Billy Ray stabbed Suzie to death then shot everyone in his class!). You may have just saved the world from a future spree killer.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 8:24 p.m. CST

    KEEP YOUR BIG MOUTH SHUT AND YOUR RUGRATS TOO!!

    by LT Weezie

    Although I don't advocate such rash action, I can understand the frustration the gentleman felt who fired the shot. You pay big bucks to see a film, and you do NOT pay to hear cell phones, texting, or talking, or screaming brats. I loved Roget Ebert and Gene Siskel's comment that they would give $10 to any theatre associate who would throw out a yakker. I totally agree. I will tell you that when this happens to me, I walk straight out to the lobby, get the manager or other theatre personnel, and let them know what is going on. Then I politely request a free pass for another time. This happened to me one time in particular, when I was getting ready to sit down in a very large 70mm theatre to see ALIEN. I specifically picked the time of day hoping there would be less of an audience. Before the sleep pods ever opened, a crying, screaming creature started to yell. The parent did NOTHING to get up and leave, or to even quiet it down. That was when I got up, grabbed the manager, and fortunately, he was able to personally hear the disruption. The person was asked to leave until such time as the noise would stop. It was an R-rated movie for gosh sakes too. Finally, when she left with her herd, everyone else in the theatre applauded...and I also obtained a couple of free passes to come back later. I expect a little noise during a Pixar film, but even then, please....PULLEASE wait until the DVD comes out, and make all the noise you want at home! DO NOT torture those of us who enjoy the huge screen theatre experience. 'Nuf Said!

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 8:25 p.m. CST

    Cell Phone Problem

    by Autodidact

    Yesterday at Valkyrie I made a point of pulling out my phone and turning it completely off before the movie started. Then at some point during the movie I heard a beep and was mortified to realize it was coming from my pocket. No problem, I though, I'll just reach in my pocket and turn it off by feel. Did so, and then it beeped again ten minutes later... WTH!? So I pull it out real quick and it's all lit up with nothing displayed. Crashed or something. It won't respond to the buttons to turn off, so it keeps beeping. I am completely mortified. I had to rip the battery out. I tried to keep the phone under my jacket but I'm sure it annoyed the people around me. From now on I'll leave my phone in the car.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 8:25 p.m. CST

    you know what i love?

    by cathartist

    I love when high and mighty talk backers decide that right in the middle of a long running thread that this is where they will post WHY they are leaving the site. Then they list a lengthy diatribe of things like; "this is old news posted on another site three days ago", "this story has no relevance to movies", “Harry doesn’t actually review movies anymore”, etc, etc, blah, blahtity fucking blah. These people are JUST like people who talk in movie theaters. They like hearing the sound of their own voice. Do you know whose site this is? It’s Harry’s site, NOT YOURS! If he wanted to post 1000 word articles about the shape and contour of his balls, he could. If he wanted to write eloquent soliloquies about his favorite high chair when he was 3, he could. But instead he chooses to post articles and reviews about things that are important to him, film and other geek related topics. Free super high powered laser beams are frickin cool. Publicly bitching about people who talk in movie theaters is relevant to a bunch of GEEKS WHO LOVE MOVIES, i.e. US!!! Now I am not trying to kiss Harry’s ass, because even with his surgery it’s still pretty big and would take the better part of a day. But who are we to demand that the owner of the FREE site that we visit as FANS run the site according to our nit picking sanctimonious rules of conduct? If you don’t like what you see here then leave. But don’t troll the boards waiting for your moment to strike and bitch about all the things wrong with the site. If you were really concerned you might send Harry and email with a list of your complaints, instead of ignorantly blasting the site in the middle of random talk backs. Of course if the people who posted during this thread that they were done with this site actually hold true to their promises, then this whole post will be in vain and fall on deaf ears. But I am guessing that not only will they read this but be compelled to shoot back with their own acerbic brand of immature wit. I mean what else are they going to do, actually get up, put on clothes, get out of their Mom’s basement and go outside?!

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 8:26 p.m. CST

    ...I start to get a knot in my stomach on the drive to...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...the theater. I know that makes it sound like I'm the one with the problem, but it used to not be like this...I'd day seven or eight times out of ten your movie experience will be ruined at my local theater (we rarely go anymore).........you know that feeling too...you get there early to get a good seat...anxiety rises as the theater fills up...blood pressure rises a bit every time a group of assholes barge in...but they keep heading to the back...or they're not as bad as you thought at first...maybe you misjudged them...the the movie starts...hey!, it looks like you dodged the bullet...it's going to be OK!...then, just as the title sequence ends...they stumble in right in front of or behind you, talking all the way...it takes them five minutes just to get their ignorant asses organized enough to hit the upholstery...and it's all down hill from there...all your worst assumptions are confirmed and them some. Fade to red...

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 8:26 p.m. CST

    Everybody put your hands in the air and...

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    CELEBRATE!!! Woo hoo, antibody is gone! Sing it loud! Antibody is gone! Be proud! Antibody is gone!<p>(Hope nobody shoots him.)

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 8:29 p.m. CST

    Ego-Stroking Bitches

    by Autodidact

    The worst type of talkers are the vapid cunts on dates with lothario fuckwits. The girls try to stroke the guys' ego by asking inane questions, as if only the guy can understand the complex plot of the latest Wil Smith movie.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 8:30 p.m. CST

    Well said, Cathartist

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    Well fucking said.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 8:34 p.m. CST

    Crap like this...

    by fishpillow

    ... is the reason I have only been to a theater once in 3 years(Let the Right One In). LOVE my home theater!

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 8:36 p.m. CST

    haven't been to a movie in YEARS because of the talkers

    by Scytherius

    I just wait for the DVD or PPV. Won't go back unless there is a news report of a theater that throws them out.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 8:38 p.m. CST

    Would love to find out...

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    That the shooter is actually theater security. That shit would be AWESOME!<p>"Sir, I've asked you to be quiet...(sound of bullet being chambered)...KABLAM!

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 8:49 p.m. CST

    parent movie mornings at theaters

    by BilboFett

    at theaters are designed to get the mom OUT OF THE HOUSE with somewhere to go, different scenery, change of pace, so she can see a FIRST RUN movie that all her single friends have been talking about, and not have to worry about disturbing the audience with her kids, which would happen in the afternoon or evening. Some theaters even have changing stations. That's kinda gross but I think the entire concept is brilliant. If I was a theater owner I'd have it setup at my theater ASAP, because hey, any way we can get another segment of the population that normally avoids going to movie theaters, the better. Also, if you see a guy jump off a building, and then he goes limp and all flat, you should catch him, because hey, free dummy.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 8:52 p.m. CST

    the Arclight in Hollywood

    by BilboFett

    Has a digital clock counting down to the start of the movie outside each theater. Has ushers that constantly monitor the theater, who WILL kick people out, no questions asked. Has assigned seating. And the ushers engage you in conversation while you're walking out to see if you liked the movie or have any suggestions about the theater. It fucking rocks. They have a full restaurant inside and many screenings have the directors and stars who made them (its in downtown hollywood). Of course the Arclight costs a little more but its worth it. Every time I go I see a different star just going to see a movie.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 8:52 p.m. CST

    ...on a slightly lighter note...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...a few years ago I sat down with a date in a completely empty theater (the movie had been out for a while). We sit there for about ten minutes and just before the movie starts another couple wanders in...debates for a moment about where to sit...and then sits down in the two seats DIRECTLY behind us...out of two hundred or so seats in a completely empty theater they sit down RIGHT behind us! I was so stunned it took me a couple of seconds to recover but I as I stand up, whip around and begin to tear into the guy he jumps up, puts his hands up in a gesture of surrender, starts laughing and says "...I was just messing with you man...you should see the look on your face...that was so worth it!..." I had to admit...that was pretty fucking funny. They sat about ten rows back...all was right with the world.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 8:56 p.m. CST

    no you won't whinynegative bitch

    by slappy jones

    i won't get shot. you won't clap nor will you fuck my wife. but i will still talk during a movie if i fucking feel like. I paid my money. if i have something to say to whoever is with i am going to say it.anyone who thinks that someone deserves to be shot for talking during a fucking movie of all things is a complete fucking idiot and I hope every movie you go to from now on is ruined by talking, cell phones and babies. cunts.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 8:59 p.m. CST

    "That's Wolverine! He just called him BUB!"

    by FatherMcGruderKicksAssForTheLord

    This was what some lard-ass shouted during X3, as he narrated the opening sequence for me and everyone else. I didn't see a helmet or diaper, so I'm pretty sure there's no excuse. <p> Also, I loved it when, while watching the closing minutes of The Mist, the (very) young kid sitting a few seats behind, who'd been gamely asking his wonderful and attentive young mother cute little questions about the various monsters and carnage throughout the whole film, burst into wailing tears as Tom Jane executed his son.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9 p.m. CST

    hey FlickaPoo

    by BilboFett

    dude, I think I was the guy. Seriously. Do you live in southern California? Because I totally remember doing that. No joke.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:01 p.m. CST

    had it coming

    by a rolling stone

    They assign seats in Bangkok, not that I think assigned seats stop one from talking. But nobody talks in a Thai theater. They know better, and without all the gunplay. I'm not saying I would shoot somebody for talking, but I'll kick the shit out of someone's skull if the movie's a good one.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:03 p.m. CST

    I thought Travis Bickle only liked Pornos

    by Catbarf the 12th

    That guy is no hero, but what suffering fan hasn't imagined this? A satisfying impulse, but only if the blood is imaginary. Keep your fantasies and realities straight, please, or somebody gets hurt. now you, SHUT UP! and you, PUT THE GUN DOWN! - And imagine the changes the multiplex chains will now have have to make to those cute little "please be nice" clips before the movie. I can't wait for the Ebert essay.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:03 p.m. CST

    slappy jones, movie etiquette

    by BilboFett

    is no different than libray etiquette. Except its more strict. They don't turn the lights down to evoke a "movie" feel, because, that explanation is circular reasoning. They originally turned the lights down, for the first time, so you wouldn't be distracted by people coming in, leaving, or those around you. Get the hint? Of course, no one should be shot and killed for talking, of course. It's tragic. But a few immature and cold attitudes in here from brave teenagers living in their parents basement who've never actually been in a fight except in World of Warcraft, don't give you an excuse to be a rude asshole and talk LOUD so others can hear you in the theater. Sounds like you need as much growing up to do as they do. This is life, people. Common courtesy. No one wants their movie disturbed by cell phones lights or loud frequent talking, just like no one wants to be shot. Treat others how you want to be treated. Nuff said.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:04 p.m. CST

    FUN WITH INDIANA JONES

    by LT Weezie

    I do have to make a confession. During DENVENTION II in 1981, the Mann Theatre in Denver was TOTALLY packed to the rafters with convention goers waiting to enjoy RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK in 70mm. THIS is one time we all had a blast making comments and having an all-around great time watching it together...why my hubby even had a rubber snake he tossed around during the appropriate time. BUT this was a special showing...any other time...SHUT THE HELL UP!!

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:07 p.m. CST

    Gunfire in a Brooklyn Theater

    by Caerdwyn

    Okay, okay, so it was Philly, I couldn't resist making the reference. While I'd love to cheer on the shooter for shutting up a movie-talker... I can't get past the fact that he actually pulled a gun in a crowded theater on Christmas and shot someone. It's one thing to throw popcorn or verbally harangue the obnoxious talker, but shooting them? It's not behavior to be lauded.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:11 p.m. CST

    well . . .

    by cathartist

    guess there is no need to see the Mist now

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:15 p.m. CST

    We're doomed

    by drturing

    Though there is a ton of decent, good thought here about how this is fucked up and yes, take a look at the front page of AICN.. What's some actual cool news you see that's reported by this site? Nothing. Harry reviews a laser. Capone reviews a bunch of movies I can see. Massawyrm writes some pedantic shit that I could give two fucks about and I skip over his reviews anyway. But the simple fact of the matter is that anyone who thinks that it's funny that random gun violence entered a movie theater and claims to be a movie lover is just fucking retarded. Movie talkers are annoying, and yes it has become a horrible problem - a SERIOUS problem where exhibitors don't give people the experience of watching a movie that commands respect - like you get at the Arclight with is proper projection, actual ushers, and pure actual popcorn popped in peanut oil without any bizzare chemicals. In the rush to collect DVD revenue the studios and exhibitors working the bottom line have made going to the movies a joyless, noxious enterprise. Reap what they sow.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:24 p.m. CST

    I'm with antibody...

    by Kal Reeve

    It's downright disturbing that so many of you are celebrating this thug's shooting of a man for merely talking in a movie theater. Really, let's get some perspective; is movie watching so sacred and precious to you that you would condone the taking of another man's life? Are so many of you so detached that you have no concern for the well-being of others? What about the child who witnessed his father being shot? Grow a heart, fellas. Just because Christmas has passed doesn't mean you have to discard your humanity.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:25 p.m. CST

    I got this beat x 12

    by Drestin Black

    Ok I don't get a fuck who'all is going to tell me this is bullshit because I was there and this is my story and I'm sticking to it. It's really quite simple and to the point. My buddy Steve and I are watching Alien, the weekend of it's release, a Sunday night showing. We HAD gone to see it on Saturday night but the film broke and we all got replacement tickets and so here we are back to finally see it concluded. And, son of a fucking bitch is there a guy behind us who is talking throughout the entire movie. He is correcting every perceived science error in the flick to his apparently rapt with attention fellow geek squad (not the BB type) who he was obviously king of the dipshits of. And so then there is my buddy Steve. Steve of the I just got out of Marine bootcamp and am therefore invincible and need to demonstrate this invicibility when possible, beginning with crushing handshakes. Steve of the "if this motherfucker doesn't fucking shut the fuck up in 2 fucking minute I'm going to fucking turn around and fucking fuck him in the fucking eye sockets" Steve. And after that outburst comes a moments silence and then the barely audible word "jarhead" vomits itself from the dipshit behind us. He's outta his chair in .8 seconds, it takes everything I know how to do and say to keep Steve from beating the shit outta this little snot behind us. I get Steve back in his chair and then comes the "huh huh" Beavis like sound that then unleashes the greatest moment in movie theater history, for me personally. Steve gets up, turns to face these dip shits, 3 of them in a row. And just unzips and yanks his dick out and proceeds to piss all over all three of them. This is the I drank all of my large diet coke while waiting for the previews and the first 5 minutes of the movie and have now been holding it (as probably only a fresh-outta-boot marine recruit could do) stream of pent up piss. I couldn't do anything but fall all overmyself laughing. He then put it away, and calmly turned back around and sat down to watch Sigorney rescue that fucking cat ... I heard them leave and waited for security to throw us out but nothing happened. Nothing. We watched the movie and left and I've told this story, now, about 1138 times already! :) Priceless!

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:26 p.m. CST

    Ha! Yah, yes, shootists, please use your SILENCERS!

    by Drath

    Killing talkers is fine, just don't make any noise about it. In fact, use a stiletto to the lung, that's the preferred method! I wish I could be sure this was more in the spirit of fun, but it bothers that me that anyone is this much of an antisocial asshole as to find this story funny. I don't care if you paid to see the movie, you're in a social space, you're at the mercy of the public. You came to the theater to hear other people--laughter, boos, cheers, etc--because you DO have the alternative to see it on DVD alone. Yes you have to wait for that, but tough shit, the world doesn't revolve around you, we all paid the same $10, so live with it or leave society. Don't bitch because the ambiance of the theater wasn't what you wanted. Talking patrons is just part of the experience, if you can't handle that, I have no sympathy. Don't want to hear the talking, buy the DVD and watch at home.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:27 p.m. CST

    And Harry...

    by Kal Reeve

    Shame on you for not out-right condeming such an atrocious act. Your wording almost suggests that the father had it coming. You shouldn't attempt to justify acts of violence, especially actions that involve use of a deadly weapon.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:30 p.m. CST

    Now people with laser pointers, THEM you can shoot

    by Drath

    In that case, yeah, the offender is at the mercy of the mob. Pretty sure I saw a teenager forced to swallow his. I think his sister said he always had perfect aim when he took a pee after that.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:31 p.m. CST

    i dont give a fuck if someone else talks

    by slappy jones

    so there goes your treat others theory. sorry you have the chance to see it in silence where you control everything in your environment - on dvd at your house. once you go in public suck it up and accept not everyone is going to stick to this bullshit idea that no one is allowed to talk during a movie. tough shit you fucking cry babies.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:31 p.m. CST

    Drestin Black, your story has holes, maybe

    by BilboFett

    I found a few errors in your story, as entertaining as it was. No one talked with the "fuck them in their eye sockets" phraseology in the late 70s when Alien came out. And Beavis and Butthead didn't exist yet. And I don't think Jarhead was a term used then either, but I could be wrong. And you guys had just gotten out of marine bootcamp, which means you're approaching or past your 50s and talk like a 14 year old kid in an AICN talkback that most 50 year olds would avoid? Also, when you were in marine bootcamp, was this because of Vietnam? Because we just got out of there right before Alien came out.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:32 p.m. CST

    slappy jones, ypu

    by BilboFett

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:34 p.m. CST

    well drestin I hope your friend gets shot

    by slappy jones

    in iraq. because that is such a fucking overreaction. how about complaining to the theater before you fucking piss on someone of shoot them. listen you fuckers? all over someone talking in a public fucking place. fuck all of you.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:34 p.m. CST

    what does ypu mean?

    by slappy jones

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:35 p.m. CST

    BRING BACK THE DRIVE IN!!

    by Lornsorrow

    Some of my fondest experiences at the show were at the drive in. I saw Star Wars when it first came out and I was a kid, at a drive in theater. Sure, the sound was only as good the damn crummy box speaker you would hang on your window, but it got better once they began to broadcast the show on the radio and also have the wire things you attached to your antenna, bring a portable stereo, etc. The drive in was the best. The privacy was great, most people were not so noisy that you could hear them in your car. The real party people always seemed to hang in back with their big trucks, tailgates down, just hanging and having fun. I know there still are a few drive in theaters in California and across the U.S., but you have to drive pretty far to get to these. I so miss the drive in. As a kid is was a great place, just walking to the snake bar with your dad in the dark was kind of an adventure. And of course you could bring your own food, blankets, whatever. They were the best fucking times. They could still be great if they would improve some of the projectors and screens. I'm sure there was some bad shit that went down there sometimes, but I never really saw anything. At least in the drive in you have the option of generally minding your own business and the privacy of your own vehicle. Those were the days. I miss them so damn much...

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:36 p.m. CST

    theaters aren't public places

    by Taklamakan

    they are private businesses, but that just shows you're an idiot as well as a douchebag, slappy

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:37 p.m. CST

    slappy jones, you are wrong

    by BilboFett

    because the theater itself has those rules. You should obey them. Everyone knows why its dark, why the sound is so loud. I don't mind if people laugh at the funny scenes, or scream at something scary. But I mind if certain (not all) black people are providing realtime running narration of every scene, if teenybopper girls are texting their boyfriend who lives down the street, and if some loud drunk guys are making dumb jokes that everyone can hear that are only funny to them. It's LIBRARY RULES, only stricter. What part of that don't you get? I'm sensing you're not even trying to be reasonable about this, so why am I bothering? Would you prefer people talk and are loud at your house while watching TV? No? Too bad. I'm bringing over lots of my friends and we're all going to be loud on your couch. In fact, talking is allowed at home. That's what people do when they watch TV together at a house. They don't shush others and don't turn the lights out and have ushers and posted exits. Get it? THIS IS WHAT A MOVIE THEATER IS FOR. I don't care if you don't like it. This is reality. 90% of the audience wants a quiet theater. The theater crew wants a quiet theater. You don't. Then DON'T GO TO THE FUCKING MOVIES, EVER AGAIN. Ok? Do us all a favor. Fuck you.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:38 p.m. CST

    Bilbofett

    by Jaws Wayne

    Haha, hey Sherlock, are you interrogating Mr. Black ? Brother, as if adult Americans talking like kids is an unusual phenomenon. O man, haha.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:38 p.m. CST

    Bilbo, sigh...

    by Drestin Black

    '79 for Alien. I do not remember the EXACT fucking phrase he used and i fit literally used "fuck them in the eye sockets" but to my 46 year old mind, yea, that's how I remember it. Jarhead was most definately in use at the time. *I* was not in boot, HE was. He was several years older than me. I was, 17 at the time, he was I believe 20. Before pissing on my story, read a bit more carefully. B&B didn't create the "huh huh" sound, kids have made such sounds sometime before B&B, as if that should be a shock to you to learn. I referenced B&B so "huh huh" would read as it sounded to me back them. The story is true and I stand by it. I believe it was the Shores Theater in Grosse Point where we saw it.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:40 p.m. CST

    It's like Iraq

    by a rolling stone

    I don't support the war, but I support the troops. In this case, I don't support the bloodshed, but I support the man who pulled the trigger. The world's a kooky place.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:40 p.m. CST

    BilboFett...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...no, was in Florida going to school at the time. But I've been waiting for an opportunity do the same thing to someone else some day. I was so stupid angry it took me a few seconds to calm down and realize the joke was on me...

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:41 p.m. CST

    Drestin Black, I sit corrected

    by BilboFett

    You showed me. Seriously. Can we now make up? I'll put on Alien blu-ray on my 46" LCD and make you some killer nachos. What kind of soft drinks do you like? I've got some Coca Cola here and some energy drinks, but if you want I'll run out and get you something else. Bring some popcorn ok? Oh and I hope you don't mind, I watch all my movies in the buff. What time will you be here?

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:41 p.m. CST

    SlappyJones, DIAF

    by Drestin Black

    I have no idea how long he was in the corp but most certainly never was involved in Iraq but, gee, thanks for those kind words. You want him to die because he pee'd on some irritating people? Would you rather he pulled out an M-16 and went all crazy solider on his ass in some Hollywood movie-like fashion? Jezuz... I tell an amusing variation where the only thing injured was a few idiots pride and you want him to die for it? Who's the nut job now?

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:42 p.m. CST

    Drestin Black, slappy jone's mind

    by BilboFett

    is very disturbed. He's very much against the murder of the people who talked too loud, but thinks peeing on some kids should be punishable by death. I think he's either taking the piss and isn't serious or is one very sad puppy. Anyways, bring lots of popcorn bro!

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:43 p.m. CST

    Bilbo, make it my place

    by Drestin Black

    Just finished setup on the new Sony 52" but, seeing as how we're picking on stories and all; I don't believe Alien is out on Blu- Ray yet so put yer pants back on. Besides, I drink Diet Mt. Dew.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:46 p.m. CST

    Let The Right One In

    by Drestin Black

    OK, I know I'm late to this but, just watched Let The Right One In and well... wow... I'm not usually into this genre but this is the first time since Ginger Snaps I've really been hit by a movie. Put some hooks in me. Anyone who hasn't seen it yet, give it a shot, you may just love it. To the folks who haev seen both Ginger Snaps and Let The Right One In - can you recommend something for me to watch tonight in that vein (pun only unintentionally intended)?

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:50 p.m. CST

    My Talker Story.

    by LOTGA

    When I was working at a movie theatre when the Dawn of the Dead remake came out, I went to see the flick and there were this group of three or four college guys sitting two seats over from me and my girlfriend at the time. Now, I can forgive chatting a bit about the trailers, commenting on how a flick looks good or bad and what not, so when these guys did that I didn't really pay any mind to it. But then the movie started and these idiots continued to jabber on well into the movie. Eventually I had enough and I very politely leaned over and asked them to please be quiet, then one of the guys just turned from his buddy and said "Fuck you" to me. To which I replied "Fuck me? I work here, asshole, so shut the fuck up or I will go get the manager to drag your ass out of here." Stunned the guy just slouched in his seat and kicked up his feet on to the back of the chair in front of him, which was occupied, therefore making it almost as bad as talking, so I told him to take his damn feet down and none of them said another word the entire movie. And just to make things clear, I don't agree with the guy shooting someone for talking, but I do find the story funny.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:52 p.m. CST

    Kill them all!!!

    by The Penultimate Gunslinger

    Fortunatly in the UK you never seem to see any babies in the cinema - they're not immune to the age restrictions, thankfully. When I went to see Wall-E the cinema was stuffed full of annoying brats, but they musy have had the volume on high to compensate or something, cus when the film started I didn't really notice. Oh, and a drunk couple wouldn't shut up when I went to see Quantum of Solace. Thankfully they must have been sober enough to realise how shit it was, because they left after 10 minutes. Thank you, Daniel Craig!

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:54 p.m. CST

    My little hometown theatre had a "Cry Room"

    by chromedome

    at the back of the theatre: glassed-in, theatre seating, and sound piped in. Families with babies or small children went in there, could see and hear the movie and we didn't have to hear them. Why none of the modern theatres do this is beyond me.<p>And I have been trying to justify the price of a cell-phone jammer--but can buy a lotta blu-rays for that amount of coin (maybe just not as much satisfaction, though)

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:56 p.m. CST

    A prime example of why I condone Bootlegged DVDs!

    by Arcangel2020

    This particular posting has struck a Nerve with me.... It just seems to me that those assholes out there who think it's "cool" and "funny" to talk outloud during a Movie...a film the average moviegoer has payed money to see (sometimes a lot of money!)..or talk on their cell phone or text on thier PDA because..gosh, they are SO fucking cool and important and their attitude is basically "FUCK everyone else around them!" When you have Asshole parents who bring thier infants or really younhg children to an Adult movie that is violent, filled with explosions and is otherwise not suitable for the little ones...but still..they do it anyway? When you ask politely for someone to please be quiet? They give you a major attitude and typically tend to get mouthy or "ghetto" with you and even at times threaten you. When you are forced to get up and go to the lobby to complain? Thereby missing ket scenes and important stuff that transpires..and when the Theater management you talk to just basically blows you off and says "oh, uhhhh..all we can do is give you a pass for another showing"? Well, I say FUCK YOU! Fuck YOU Theater Owners! Fuck you and your overpriced concessions, FUCK YOU for not enforcing ANY the Non cell phones and non talking during the movies and not taking a customers compalint seriously! Fuck you theater owners for having NO ONE doing their job...instead you have a bunch of little jerk offs behind the concession counter who have maybe a 4th grade education and maybe 2 brain cells playing grab ass and gossiping. Until the Theater Owners decide to actually clean up their act and make the movie going experience enjoyable? Or unless I and the many others out there who feel tha same was as I do and are allowed to pummel and pulverize with impunity the rude, inconsiderate fucktards who insist on acting like assholes? I plan to stick with buying and watching Bootlegged DVDs and going online to various websites that allow you to watch current new releases

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:57 p.m. CST

    Here's yet another reason so many of us...

    by Sithtastic

    Are glad for the rise of almost immediate dvd releases, downloads and a dozen other ways to get around the ever nauseating film going experience. Let me tell you first hand, the only thing more worse thatn having to endure the curse of the film talker is having to summarily eject them REPEATEDLY because their parents confused the theater with "the mall" as a place to congregate, hang out and socialize. On the otherhand, I was once cheered for throwing out a band of middle school girls from Batman Begins.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:57 p.m. CST

    Lornsorrow is right. Drive Ins forever.

    by Its a LION

    And I'm so glad I live half an hour from one.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 9:57 p.m. CST

    I don't find the story funny at all

    by BilboFett

    and its not cathartic to me at all. I could *maybe* possibly see an uber-fan who stayed up all night in a long line for Episode I or something like that, possibly going nuts. But fucking Benjamin Button? Really? Was this guy THAT into it? Obviously his wife had just left him, he got fired at work, had a massively rotten Christmas, etc. etc. I think it was the rude talking that was the final straw. No one is really talking about this part of it. So, the truth behind this shows that he wasn't just in a great mood and everything was fine in his life and THEN he shot the guy completely out of context of anything building up to it. Of course I don't know what his life was, but, seriously, look at the guy. He wasn't a happy dude. I will say, to all the people who felt some sort of victory by the shooting, some sort of satisfaction, that this is what all the rudeness of people getting more and more selfish and direspectful has led to. The escalation. The story was shocking, but was it THAT shocking? No. That's why its sad. This is the world we live in, people.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 10 p.m. CST

    Two movies, seven bucks. That's hard to beat.

    by Its a LION

    Except that time it was Fast & The Furious/Tomb Raider. *shudder*

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 10:01 p.m. CST

    Personally, I've found that......

    by deadboy1313

    a large ice cold soda poured over their head does the trick.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 10:04 p.m. CST

    Next victim? Please stop talking during the movie...

    by Leafar the Lost

    This guy who got shot is just the first victim. The USA is a nation of trends, both good and bad. It is also a nation that believes in the Right to Bear Arms. Therefore, if you don't want to get shot, I highly suggest you shut the fuck up during the movie. I wouldn't be surprised if the shooter is aquitted by a jury. I hate idiots who talk during a movie. If the movie theaters won't throw out idiots who talk during the movie, then someone else will. I advise all movie chains to put in metal detectors, and strip search hot bitches...

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 10:05 p.m. CST

    Great idea:

    by The Penultimate Gunslinger

    Everyone who enters a movie theatre has to wear a collar that only the staff can remove. As soon as the film starts the collar measures the volume and rate of the person's talking. If they start to talk too much or too loudly they get an electric shock. It's a three strikes system. Each time the shocks are more powerful. After two shocks, if the person speaks too much again the collar magnatizes and they get pulled up to ceiling, where they have to stay for the rest of the film, until the credits roll and the collars turn off. For babies you could have nappies/diapers instead of collars. Oh, and did I mention, the ceiling is covered in metal spikes, so if you go up there - YOU DIE!!!!

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 10:09 p.m. CST

    Damn this makes me remember

    by rogueleader66

    When I went to see AVP (yea i know i should be shot for paying to see it) and this asshole would not shut the fuck up. After several polite attempts at asking him to keep quiet, I became pissed, and told him to shut the fuck up. When he laughed and kept talking, I got up walked past my buddy (who was not stopping me) grabbed the asshole and told him to shut up or I will shut him up. He proceeded to tell me that all his friends would rush to his aid, as I looked down the aisle, all his so called friends were just looking at this jerk, as if they wanted to say he deserved this. I told him "yea I can see how they are rushing to help you", I shoved him back down in his seat and said "now shut the fuck up". Needless to say he was quiet for the rest of the movie. Hey you wanna talk during the previews, fine, but once the movie starts, shut up, you wanna talk take it out of the theater. Some of us come to the theater to WATCH a movie not hang out and talk.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 10:11 p.m. CST

    Shut the fuck up, slappy.

    by MCSuchandsuch

    No one wants to hear your bullshit boring commentary. You probably go to the theater by yourself anyway. Do humanity a favor and drink a Clorox milkshake you fucking prick.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 10:14 p.m. CST

    by The Penultimate Gunslinger

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 10:15 p.m. CST

    ...if the talker happens to be right in front of you...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...I've had pretty good luck with asking them relatively nicely to shut the fuck up...but doing it very suddenly and lean in right in their ear. They're usually so startled they turn visibly pale...I guess it's hard to act tough with your pants full of your own excrement. It's important to do it with no warning at all...don't huff and puff first or anything...

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 10:20 p.m. CST

    Nobody goes to the movies to hear people talking.

    by Power_Girl

    Only weirdoes do that. Rude people talk during the movie and if some dumb fuck thinks this is socially expectable behavior to have a chat or interrupt the film they deserve to be heckled. You pay your money and you be considerate of other people!!! Cinemas should run adds before the film letting people know than they should not talk and have their phones turned off. The Cinema should enforce these rules and not leave it up to other patrons to tell someone to shut the fuck up! <p> I go to the movies during the day when I know there won't be a rude crowd with attention seeking fools abound.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 10:20 p.m. CST

    Drestin Black...

    by Kal Reeve

    How can you call someone else a nut job when to you a grown man urinating on a minor is comical? Not calling you a nut job, per se, but that is quite a double-standard. PS The other poster was wrong for wishing your friend be killed in combat.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 10:24 p.m. CST

    And loud eaters who slurp away at empty drinks...

    by Power_Girl

    You people are the Devil!!!

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 10:25 p.m. CST

    The guy who shot the talker...

    by The Penultimate Gunslinger

    ... certainly won't have to worry about people talking around him when he goes to the cinema next time - the whole fucking place will fall silent.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 10:28 p.m. CST

    Some great stories.

    by mrfan

    I don't agree with shooting anyone for talking in the theatre. But like many of you I cannot help but find it a little funny.<p>One time my girlfriend and I went to a movie. Three talkative teens were right behind us. Talked for the first ten minutes and for me that was pretty patient. I was just getting ready to say something when my girlfriend stood up, turned around, and told them to shut the fuck up. That surprised me. Also, made me proud. Eventually she and I broke up. She kept acting like that in the bedroom. Telling me to just shut up and fuck her. Too bad. I thought she was a keeper.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 10:28 p.m. CST

    Kal Reeve, MCSuch & WhinyLittle

    by DeeJay

    Kal... very true. It's even more disturbing when one considers that the shooter was, in all likelihood, mentally ill. Whether it happened in that movie theatre or in line at the local Target, it's pretty clear that Cialella was determined to shoot someone that day. Never mind the "minor detail" that we've yet to hear that members of the survivor's family were actually disruptive. MCSuch... I'll politely agree to disagree with you, on this one. For others on AICN to decry talking in a theatre as rude behavior and then proceed to deliver kneeslappers about a real-life gun crime, well, they've also violated the rules of common courtesy. While AICN talkbacks may often get bad, it isn't *always* this bad. This talkback's one saving grace is that its misanthropic tone could make at least 99.9% of the US population feel as if it had social intelligence two standard deviations above the norm. WhineyLittle... um, no. However, the fact that you would countenance the planned behavior of a violent lunatic who incited a riot is, in and of itself, a sign that logic does not currently sit well with you and your "feelings." Have you even asked yourself what type of a person goes to the movies alone--- and armed--- on Christmas Day?

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 10:29 p.m. CST

    though...

    by Power_Girl

    The only type of film I won't see during the day are the types that attract crowds of old people on senior citizen discount days. I learnt my lesson there! Old people cant control their bowls and fart like crazy... Silent farts!!!

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 10:34 p.m. CST

    A talking mother ruined the 5th Harry Potter for me...

    by Astrosquall

    She was with her daughter -who would've been 7 or 8- and throughout the film whenever something scary did happen she'd say to her: "it's not real- it's just a movie" As someone who very much likes to lose themselves in a movie, i.e: forget about a reality devoid of such wizardry, I found this to be quite perturbing. Of course I'm not a psycho -and am rather moralistic, if you want to know the truth- so I let them alone without even so much as a polite "shush" to indicate my perturbance, and have since enjoyed viewing the DVD release of said film in the privacy of my own cinematic bedroom setup. The story's moral ? Tolerance is a virtue.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 10:35 p.m. CST

    While watching Kiss of the Dragon...

    by otm shank

    two asian girls got into a slap fight a few rows in front of my friends and I. By the time their boyfriends got them apart, one was down to her bra. We weren't too tore up about it though. Oh, and one time while watching Van Helsing we saw a guy get punched out for not shutting up. I actually thought it enhanced that particular movie experience.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 10:37 p.m. CST

    get real DeeJay

    by Power_Girl

    People can joke about this if they want and still complain about talkers in movies. It's funny because they hate people talking in movies... get the joke!!! It would only break the rules of "common courtesy" if you rubbed it in the families face that this happened to.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 10:40 p.m. CST

    Astrosquall

    by Power_Girl

    Yeah, sometimes you just have to put up with it if it's a scared kid or something. You can always find a new seat if it's not a full house.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 10:46 p.m. CST

    Kickers...

    by Perceptor

    It was an ex and I and we were seeing Transformers. Behind us, fate had planted two boys and one girl. High schoolers. I could tell by the dialogue that Boy #1 was actually the girls brother while Boy #2 was her "boyfriend". Boy #1 was supposed to be keeping Boy #2 from turning into Touchy McFeely but was doing a horrendous job. Then the kicking started. It was the girl. She must have played sports because the sound that her shoes made when they hit the back of my chair made me think that they were huge feet. Ginormous even. After the first coupld of kicks (I normally allow one in case someone has to adjust their feet and they are just awkward or have poor muscle control) I turned and gave a stern look which caused Boy #2 (now known in my mind as Touch McFeely) to get the girls attention and have her stop kicking my chair. I'm a large guy. Not Harry large (no offense Harry) but very Nordic in appearance. And by Nordic I mean fat and pasty. So I know that my being very large had everything to do with Touchy McFeely's response to his "girlfriend". He didn't want her writing checks he couldn't cash. Knowing this, I decided that the chair kicking would stop with that warning. It didn't. Soon I found a rythmic thud building behind me until I got up and turned around and said very politely (which many confuse with psychotic), "how would you like me to come sit behind you and kick the shit out all your seats? Would you like me to?" Immediately their little heads shook a no, almost in perfect unison. I smiled and sat back down. Behind me, there was a slight rustle and when I turned I could see that they had moved. The girl stopped kicking the chair but they had moved all the same. The problem is, escalation often jumps for a simple "shhh" or "please stop" to violence. This is because when you ask someone politely to be quiet in a sitation where quiet is the expected behavior and they ignore your request, most sane people will write the noisy person off as insane or troublesome which means that the escalation must be met with the same type of personality. If people would be polite and think of others when they are out watching movies, going to the grocery store or any situation where contact with strangers happens regularly, we wouldn't have situations like the sad story in Phillidelphia. All I implied was that I was going to make their theater experience a) awkward and embarassing and b) intimidating. I hope Touchy McFeely and his girl remember that from now on.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 10:48 p.m. CST

    "Honey...I wanted to ask you something...

    by Cheif Brody

    very special in this dark movie theater...Will you marry me?"... <p> BLAM!! BLAM!! BLAM!! <p> "Shut the fuck up, muthafucka!!". <p> "Oh my God! He just proposed to me!" <p> BLAM!! BLAM!! (Sideways) BLAM!! <p> "You shut the fuck up, too, BITCH!". <p> Justifiable homocide. <p> I think our "home movie theaters" are responsible for this. We sit at home, pop in a DVD...pause the movie for phone calls, talk other people in the room...and that behavior carries over into the movie theater experience...cuz today's cramped ass movieplexes aren't much bigger than our own damn living rooms at home. Idiots think they're still sittin at home. <p> NOTHING you have to say...and NO PHONE CALL/TEXT is so important that it can't wait until the fuckin movie, that EVERYONE paid good money to see, is OVER. Period. <p> Unless you are watching 'The Spirit'...then it's fine.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 10:59 p.m. CST

    Power_Girl...

    by DeeJay

    ... I'm not commenting on whether people *can* make inappropriate jokes... I'm just seeing the behavior for what it is. By the same token, many rational people are capable of seeing that the incident had very little to do with anyone talking in a movie theatre. Also; putting these words in a public forum--- which likely has members living in PA--- may not be too far-off from "rubbing" the incident in the face of a family member. Very few of us know who all is here on AICN. Even if we don't know the survivor to have a family member on AICN, common courtesy is largely based in Kantian ethics which don't require such knowledge to be the case. Oh, and by the way... it actually isn't universally funny. It's only funny to a certain type of person.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 11:04 p.m. CST

    That is too fucking awesome!

    by Beowulf316

    This story makes me feel good. And I'm not ashamed to say it.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 11:10 p.m. CST

    Beowulf316...

    by DeeJay

    ... if you feel so strongly about this, why don't you "say it" to the face of a policeman at your local precinct?

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 11:10 p.m. CST

    DeeJay

    by Chief Joseph

    Post proof that it DIDN'T have anything to do with talking loudly or shut your whining ass up.<br> P.S.: It IS funny.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 11:12 p.m. CST

    Kal Reeve, cause no one else thought he was

    by Drestin Black

    No one did anything but laugh (who could see it) and the kids not only stopped talking but left. Management didn't do anything and after moving over a few chairs we just enjoyed the rest of the flick. No one complained. I think that they, like 90% of the folks in here, felt it was a justified response. A measured response to the douchbags who ruin the movies for others. A nutjob is someone who'll go to jail as a felon and could have killed someone; someone who pisses on some jerks is just damned funny - a bit "off" but funny!

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 11:13 p.m. CST

    huh

    by Beowulf316

    What the hell does that mean?

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 11:13 p.m. CST

    Huge Movie Fan Who Hates the Theater

    by Stacy Without An E

    I get free movie tickets all the time (I work at a radio station) and I've not collected over twenty that have gone unused because of idiots at the theater. It used to be a cathartic experience to see a film on opening night with the energy of a crowd. Not anymore. All these theaters are crying about how they're not making the kind of money they used to, thus increased concession prices every year. Bring back ushers, install cell phone blockers and place rules everywhere that if you ruin the experience for one other person, you're out WITH NO REFUND. Hit the numbskull, douchebag, fucktard in their pocketbook and you'll be suprised how quickly they shut the fuck up.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 11:17 p.m. CST

    DeeJay

    by Power_Girl

    Fucking do-gooders! You are lost in social translation my friend!

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 11:18 p.m. CST

    Do you leave cookies out for Santa- I have an artical for you to

    by ThePilgrim

    Then you post that shit about that psycho mutherfucker blowing his daughters face off when she answered the door to let who she thought was Santa in, and you do it all tounge and cheek like so it sounds funny. Yeah... this shits about as funny as well, and those of you grining about it. Your is coming someday soon.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 11:18 p.m. CST

    Tranq Gun.

    by therobcat

    That's the way to do it. I'm a projectionist and I have given this much thought over the years. Get a few staff members some night vision goggles and a tranq gun. Blow gun would even be a better solution, but would likely be more difficult to train. Maybe something could be done in seat design. Something like the tingler, but with more electricity and maybe a ball gag.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 11:19 p.m. CST

    I think it would have been -really- funny if...

    by Its a LION

    ...one of the nerds reached out and ripped the big, bad marine's dick off. Or are they trained to withstand that?

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 11:23 p.m. CST

    mrfan: Do you have her phone number?

    by White Goodman

    I'd like to share some things with your ex.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 11:26 p.m. CST

    I'm not sure which is worse

    by Snookeroo

    Idiots who talk during movies, or idiots who put their feet on the back of a theater chair like it's their living room.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 11:29 p.m. CST

    In regards to the pissing story

    by White Goodman

    Who in the hell would stay in the same seats after some asshole pissed on the seats behind them? I would think that the smell of urine would get annoying 20 minutes into the movie.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 11:33 p.m. CST

    While a warning shot was in order...

    by BurnHollywood

    ...If you're this hypersensitive, see all your movies on Sunday or weeknights. Or move to another seat. Or get a voucher, if that's not possible.<p> Like it or not, moviegoing is a social activity, and you get the good with the bad.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 11:33 p.m. CST

    you know seeing all of you guys who can't help bu chuckle

    by ThePilgrim

    over this shit- make me hope that this gun in movie cinema violence becomes the new teen angst movement fro the next ten year. let see how funny it is when it becomes an 3 or 4 times a year thing. like school shootings used to be. Lets see hwo funny it is then.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 11:34 p.m. CST

    Joseph, Beowulf & Power_Girl

    by DeeJay

    Joseph... you and I both know that when a disturbed person goes looking for trouble, they'll eventually find it. Reading the news articles associated with the incident, it's pretty clear that Cialella was trying to ensure that there was a confrontation. Besides--- shooting a gun and causing a screaming riot is probably not a good way to get silence in a theatre, so I rather doubt that was Cialella's true objective. Beowulf... to put it another way, how do you think the local police would respond if you were to proudly tell them how good this crime makes you feel? Power_Girl... "do-gooders?" Since when did you switch sides and join the Legion of Doom?

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 11:34 p.m. CST

    spoilers, et al

    by FatherMcGruderKicksAssForTheLord

    Sorry cathartist. You're right, I didn't even think about that until you pointed it out. I feel really bad because, well, there weren't many reasons to see it in the first place and here I am, knocking 'em off.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 11:35 p.m. CST

    This IS Funny

    by DeweyOxburger

    The man was shot and survived. if he had not lived then sure, it wouldn't be funny at all. But he did, so this is a fair laugh, unless you have a shitty/SAFE sense of humor. People who can't laugh at something like this once in a while must be fucking miserable. I don't sympathize with the psycho, but I understand it. Harry, bless you, as this is as appropriate of a story for a FILM VIEWING AND REVIEWING SITE as any. Cheers.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 11:39 p.m. CST

    CAN'T WAIT FOR THE NOTORIOUS B.I.G. MOVIE TO HIT THEATERS

    by BringingSexyBack

    Oh the stories of theater shootings across the country will fill news headlines for weeks. Should be fun.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 11:44 p.m. CST

    Though police

    by Beowulf316

    Why should care what the cops think about what I feel about this story. Can they arrest me over my thoughts?

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 11:46 p.m. CST

    For those who think shooting in the theatre is bad

    by Autodidact

    JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP WHILE THE MOVIE'S ON AND WE WON'T HAVE A PROBLEM.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 11:46 p.m. CST

    No, THIS is funny...

    by BurnHollywood

    "Cialella then sat down to watch the movie. Police arrived a short time later and arrested Cialella and confiscated his weapon, Vanore said."<p> It's a movie theater and it's dark...all he had to do was exit the theater saying "Oh my GOD, oh my GOD! He'll kill us all! Help!" and he could have gotten away.<p> Charlie Brown, you blockhead!

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 11:46 p.m. CST

    WE JUST SIT IN THE WHEELCHAIR ACCOMPANYING SEATS

    by BringingSexyBack

    There's never anyone behind us that way. And never has a wheelchair come along where we had to give up the seats. Easy solution.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 11:50 p.m. CST

    BTW...Aint It Ironic...

    by Cheif Brody

    That the AICN animation playing in the top left corner has Harry gettin his head blown off in a closet? <p> "I'm tired of all this motherfuckin talkin in this motherfuckin closet!"... <p> BLAM!! <p> What is that animation depicting anyways? Is that a scene from a movie? A video game? I don't get it.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 11:50 p.m. CST

    Brutal Baby Killing No Talking PSA...

    by Zartan

    http://twitchfilm.net/site/view/sick-girl/

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 11:54 p.m. CST

    WHY COULDN'T IT HAVE BEEN TOM ROTHMAN

    by BringingSexyBack

    talking behind James Ciallela? Goddamit.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 11:55 p.m. CST

    This will ALWAYS work with talkers:

    by Bob Cryptonight

    You angrily tell them (in quiet tones) that if they continue talking, you will go into the restroom, fill an empty soda cup with urine, and dump it in their laps. That way THEY will have to leave the theater, they can't blame anyone because it looks like they pissed themselves, and all you have to do is move to a different seat and deny involvement. Believe me, it will never get that far.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, midnight CST

    DeeJay

    by Power_Girl

    I joined the Legion of Doom a while ago. <p> Your acting as if nobody has a moral compass for laughing at this funny shit. If this were my Dad I would still think he and the shooter were idiots. Nobody died and the events of the shooting are very funny if not sad at the same time.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, midnight CST

    ItsaLION

    by MCSuchandsuch

    Well, the funniest outcome from that situation would have been the nerds shutting the fuck up and having respect for their fellow patrons. That, my friend, would have been the cat's pajamas. Instead they got pissed on by a guy that could have broken their necks with a punch. Win some lose some.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 12:04 a.m. CST

    MCSuchandsuch: It's a bullshit story anyway.

    by Its a LION

    Really, who wouldn't have called the law?

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 12:11 a.m. CST

    As a concealed carry licensee, this is a stupid reaction...

    by BadWaldosRevenge

    ...to resolving the dispute with an act of violence involving the irresponsible use of a loaded handgun. The idiot James Cialella Jr probably don't have a concealed carry license and ignored the "no firearm allowed on premise" common in megaplex theater business. It's the temper that is problematic in a situation. Me, I wouldn't bring the handgun to theaters unless it's in a bad area which I would be sure to stay away. Gun control advocates love to highlight "tragic" incidents like this and dressed-as-Santa homicide to press their case for stricter regulation. I've had problems with seatkicking assholes (I can't forget enduring this infuriating experience during KILL BILL Vol. 1 screening) and inconsiderate, impatient, self-important pricks who play with brightly illuminated PDAs and cell phones to send and receive text messages -- even teenagers do this.<p>The only condition in which talking during the movie is okay is when one and a companion are the only ones in the screening room at the dollar theater. It's like a commentary during the movie, mocking it. I did this during HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL 3 Friday night which is a half-assed movie.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 12:18 a.m. CST

    Shooting is a bit extreme, but good lord how I hate talking...

    by a goonie

    ... during movies. I live not too far away from a gigantic multiplex that gets all sorts of movies. Often, I have to travel into Vancouver's downtown to see certain movies, but I can still catch a lot of movies here at the multiplex. And I've been going to this place since the day it opened. In fact, I went the day before it opened, too, because I was friends with people who worked there. So I have a certain soft spot for the place. But over the last few years, the audience members have become fucking infuriating. This past summer, practically every movie I saw had annoying fucking people talking, chatting on their cell phones, kicking my seat, and being so fidgety that they shake all the seats around them. I am a strict non-talker myself, but if you have to talk for some strange reason, please keep it to a whisper. I've had people talking at regular volume, pointing out dumb shit during the movie, like "hey, that's so-and-so" or "hey, that's a nice pair of shoes that character is wearing." And any other number of crap that just flies out of people's mouths. I had a chick sit next to me during The Strangers who practically shit herself the entire movie. I know this because she screamed "Oh my fucking God" the entire movie. If I had a gun, I might have shot her, too. Who knows.<br><br>Anyways, sorry about the lengthy rant. I just find it very interesting that someone out there hates talkers so much that they would resort to this. I get very frustrated in movies with the dumb-ass audiences, but it hasn't come to attempted murder yet. Wow. Thanks for bringing this story to my attention, Harry!

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 12:19 a.m. CST

    Too bad this guy wasn't at BNAT

    by themasterofnonsense

    be a lot less fat virgins in the world

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 12:21 a.m. CST

    I want to hate-fck Power_Girl

    by BilboFett

    I can really feel that she'd be into it. She has a great sense of humor and is very intelligent. She's kinda sassy and needs a strong and bold man to slap her ass HARD and tell her to shut the f up while I give it to her over and over. She and I would erotically work up a great sweat taking it out on each other all the anger we've built up over the years from the fucking loud mouths in the movie theaters.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 12:26 a.m. CST

    Beowulf, BurnHollywood, Dewey & Power_Girl

    by DeeJay

    Beowulf... in some jurisdictions, the authorities can temporarily take you into custody (for examination) if they believe you pose a threat to yourself and others. I don't know all of the legalities involved, but explaining why you embrace the behavior of a disturbed gunman might be a good method to test how that's applied in your local community. BurnHollywood... he didn't leave because he's not mentally well. Why cover your behavior when you don't believe you've done anything wrong? Dewey... you'd be surprised at how many people have feelings that are direct opposite of yours, in terms of who must be "miserable." Power_Girl... well, you've got me there. I certainly can't relate to how you'd supposedly respond to your father in such a situation. I also don't necessarily believe you, but I also don't know you. As an aside, I wouldn't go to an extreme where I'd believe it's my place to judge whether or not anyone on AICN has a moral compass or not. Now, I do find the threshold of "nobody died" to be a little chilling. You've actually seen someone rehab from a gunshot wound, right?

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 12:27 a.m. CST

    what if he shot him in the back of the head?

    by Prossor

    then he's sittign hunched over or slack-jawed staring at the ceiling while black brain blood pools out back from him and his leg twitches. DYAMAN

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 12:32 a.m. CST

    reminds me of Walter Sobchak

    by quintana007

    be quit or you entering a world of pain. Scary dude. Both of them

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 12:34 a.m. CST

    maybe a 3sum w/ power_girl and scriptgirl?

    by BilboFett

    and I could have the red-headed Busted-Tee's girl (Erica Sullivan) film it, and then it gets so hot and heavy she drops the camera and joins in! Who's with me????

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 12:41 a.m. CST

    Good for him

    by Masteel

    Guy can't just be respectful of others and be quiet, only when physical violence is involved to people suddenly remember their manners. If I was on the jury, I'd make sure the guy got off.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 1:02 a.m. CST

    To quote an old Dr. Demento skit

    by DarthFloyd

    People who talk to loud in movie theaters...BOOT TO THE HEAD!!!<p>I don't go to see many movies in theaters any more with all of the inconsiderate jackasses that seem to come out in droves nowadays. Yapping to each other, yapping on their phones, sneaking in and out, kicking seats, laser pointers at the screen...Most movie chains don't pay their employees enough to get them to remove the riff-raff. What makes it even worse is that these mouth-breathers usually run in packs and act all macho if anyone does confront them.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 1:09 a.m. CST

    I JUST SAW WATCHMEN!!

    by BilboFett

    Sitting on my desk shelf and just wanted to let all you know that the book is safe and sound.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 1:10 a.m. CST

    worst moviegoers: HORROR LAUGHERS

    by BRUTICUS

    You know those assholes who go to a horror movie and they just start laughing during the scary part to try and make it seem like they're not scared? And they just sound like 20 times more pathetic then they would if they were just being a bit freaked. Seat kickers suck too. I went and saw Synecdoche, New York and some winey little gay accented dude started saying how the movie sucked and he wanted to walk out, and his friend wanted to watch it so the idiot kept talking we gave him a good FIVE head turns before he finally shut up.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 1:25 a.m. CST

    BilboFett...get the hint..the joke is old and nobody gives a fuc

    by quantize

    you're invisible

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 1:28 a.m. CST

    ATTN: Quantize

    by BilboFett

    Thanks for reacting and responding to someone "invisible". :)

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 1:33 a.m. CST

    what ever happened to good old

    by deanbarry

    popcorn throwing? i hate talkers in a movie too. but the most i've ever done is "Shhhh"ed them loudly, or assaulted them in the car park. No guns were needed. i blame the violence in movies :)

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 1:36 a.m. CST

    BilboFett & DeeJay

    by Power_Girl

    Reading DeeJays post after yours was the funniest shit. <p> This might be serious for the guy who was shot (and his family) but to the rest of the world it's an annoying guy who was shot for talking during a film. Its happened to us all and we have all thought of shooting the chatty bastards! Someone did it and without going into details the actions of this particular event happen to be very funny. This event is funny because both parties are idiots! <p> Just for the record non of the other Christmas slayings like the guy dressed as Santa... they are not funny at all like some other people are implying here.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 1:37 a.m. CST

    Bilbofett: That Watchmen joke made me laugh

    by White Goodman

    So fuck that other poster.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 1:39 a.m. CST

    Portland theaters are good about this

    by drave117

    I see people get thrown out of theaters for talking all the time. There's this one theater that lets you do this Guest Response thing where they give you a little wireless paging device with four buttons on it, and if something is disrupting your movie experience, you hit the button. (one for video, one for audio, one for somebody pirating the movie, and one for a general disturbance.) They only have one per showing, but they give you bonus reward points if you do it, and when you hit that button, a manager appears in NO time!

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 1:43 a.m. CST

    what is the address of moriarty' site??

    by deanbarry

    please and thankyou

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 1:53 a.m. CST

    drave117

    by Its a LION

    Sounds like the theater has devised a better system than hiring ushers. Somebody actually buys a ticket to be one. Instead of watching the movie, they watch the audience to make sure nobody records The Dark Knight on his phone.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 2:18 a.m. CST

    The funniest thing about columns like this is how...

    by Immortal_Fish

    ...the author, regardless who they may be, never actually believes in the second amendment.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 2:32 a.m. CST

    To answer

    by WhinyNegativeBitch

    " You are all actually advocating violence against fellow human beings -- and even targeting babies and mentally challenged people -- for no other reason than they've distracted you from an entertainment experience?!?!?!" Yes. Yes I am. They are fucking uncivilised scum. I'm sorry, out of all the people to give a shit about, disgusting, subhuman, selfish cunts are at the bottom of the list. You honestly expect me to care if someone whose life revolves soley around them at the expense of all other people gets shot for acting like a completely retarded violent asshole? No, seriously, you want me to actually feel disdain for someone who shot a maggot piece of shit. As for his kid, maybe this incident will teach him some manners his obviously inadequate father cannot.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 2:36 a.m. CST

    Also if you actually read the article...

    by WhinyNegativeBitch

    ...The father initiated the violence. He started the whole affair by being a rude asshole. He was asked to stop being a rude asshole. He then continuted to be a rude asshole. He was treated in kind. He then escalated the situation to violence, to which his victim responded in kind and ended the situation. The moral of the story is, DONT ACT LIKE A FUCKING ASSHOLE AND ASSAULT PEOPLE AND YOU MAY RUN BETTER ODDS OF NOT GETTING SHOT.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 2:48 a.m. CST

    i find that

    by mrbong

    just saying "shut the fuck up" with a stern voice during a quiet moment in the film works, in a worst case a good slap to anyone who carries on speaking. why the fuck do dicks go to movies to chat and get phone calls? this is why waiting for the DVD normally wins for me, i don't particularly care for fighting with people.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 2:51 a.m. CST

    I stopped going to one chain....

    by WhinyNegativeBitch

    ...Because it had descended into a hellish joke. AT LEAST 45 minutes of Ads (not trailers), followed by the fact that there were always talking and yelling and phones and even with complaints nothing was ever done about it. But then two things started happening that made it even worse. Assigned seating. So, despite the fact that there are only 5 people in the whole showing, you are all asked to sit next to each other on the back row, meaning less cleaning time per show, and then, the most fucking retarded, the switching off of the movie as the credits start. Even if there are things happening during or post credits. The cinema going experience really does suck balls now.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 2:52 a.m. CST

    The point to this story is:

    by Bob Cryptonight

    If you are being rude and someone asks you to stop...STOP. Consider this: If you cut someone off in traffic and then give them the finger when they justifiably beep their horn, they just MIGHT follow you home and break your kneecaps for being a dipshit driver. Or stick a screwdriver in your temple. The lesson to be learned is that when you do something to piss someone off, they might just maim or kill you BECAUSE YOU MADE THEM ANGRY AND THEY ARE MENTALLY UNSTABLE. Not every conflict ends with a shoving match.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 2:53 a.m. CST

    Oh yeah, and even more annoying...

    by WhinyNegativeBitch

    ...During the dark knight, we have random sound drop outs so that they can tell if it is this certain print being copied, coupled with "ushers" standing at the front with Goggles watching the audience and occasionally shining a torch into the crowd to see if people are video taping on their phones, but doing nothing at all to stop people talking on them.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 3:03 a.m. CST

    However, having seen the MUG SHOT of the shooter...

    by Bob Cryptonight

    ...I think they have the perfect candidate to play Zippy The Pinhead in a live-action movie.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 4:59 a.m. CST

    Hey Slappy, STFU

    by Eyegore

    You say if you want to talk in the movie you will talk. And if I want to bitch slap you for it, you'll be bitch slapped, like a bitch. and if you start crying I'll drag your bitch ass out to the lobby by your curly locks. Asshole. Yes, remember me when you go to the movies. I'm there. Waiting for you to open your bitch ass mouth to be slapped.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 5:22 a.m. CST

    Cheif Brody

    by NoodlesHahn

    If no one answered your question yet, the corner animation is from Burn After Reading.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 5:34 a.m. CST

    But seriously Slappy...

    by Eyegore

    Keep talking in the movies, exerting your 'right to talk' and it's only a matter of time before one day you walk out of a theater into the bright light of day and some goon punches you square in the face, leaving you reeling and bloody. Then as you are about to get all indignant, he kicks you in the ribs and laughs, pointing at the wet stain on your pants and his buddies laugh it up as well, then they all get in a car and drive off, leaving you bloody and piss covered with no recourse but to call the cops, who simply tell you that they'll be on the lookout for the vehicle you described, then go back to the donut shop. That's how it ends, with you whimpering at the injustice of it all, and wondering if maybe you should have been more discreet. So save yourself some embarrassment and STFU in the movies, or this scene I described is inevitable. I've actually seen this happen in real life BTW, this is not a fantasy. It's what happens to some people who don't take life seriously enough.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 5:40 a.m. CST

    this is only half way. shoot their family first.

    by ironic_name

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 5:56 a.m. CST

    that dipshit from king of queens shot someone!

    by ironic_name

    heh!

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 6:43 a.m. CST

    I'm sure if it was a black guy that got shot...

    by magic_ninja

    it would be a "hate crime", right?

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 6:54 a.m. CST

    Yes it would be considered a hate crime..

    by Stalkeye

    because the shooter obviously hates people that talk while a Movie is being played. XD

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 7:08 a.m. CST

    This is why we need strict Gun control.

    by Stalkeye

    First the santa shooting, then a roller rink shooting in which it claimed the life of kid and now this shit. Now I'm hearing that gun purchases have skyrocketed in fears that the recession may bring out desperate criminals and the like.On the flipside those same gun purchasers can go postal should they lose their job or kill an estranged wife in a public outing. (Hint,Hint.)<p>Fuck the NRA.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 7:26 a.m. CST

    Antibody, Kal Reeve, and Slappy Jones

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    Defending their right to be douche bags since 2008! Appalled at the incivility and rudeness of shooters, they instead "shoot their mouths off" throughout the flick. Fuck 'em! I hope all three of 'em are the next to get taken out.<p>"Is your entertainment so important someone should be shot for interrupting it?" YES, MOTHERFUCKERS, IT IS!!!<p>More to the point, however: is what you're saying so important that you're willing to die for it? Why don't you think about that the next time the lights dim in theater fucking four?!?!?!?!<p>IS WHAT I'M SAYING SO IMPORTANT THAT I'M WILLING TO GET SHOT IN THE MOTHERFUCKIN' HEAD FOR SAYIN' IT?<p>Otherwise, maybe the inane banter that spews from your slimy cock holster (thanks to whoever provided THAT one) can be paused for one-hundred twenty minutes?

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 7:33 a.m. CST

    Oh and DeeGay

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    Forgot about his power of super douche-ability! Him, too.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 7:52 a.m. CST

    "that dipshit from king of queens shot someone!"

    by Bob Cryptonight

    LOL!

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 8:06 a.m. CST

    Too soon!

    by YO MOM'S GOAT

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 8:17 a.m. CST

    IT'S OKAY TOI SING AND DANCE AT THE MOVIE

    by BringingSexyBack

    As long as it's Mamma Mia! and not The Curious Case of Benjamin Button.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 8:18 a.m. CST

    TOO BOOM!!!

    by BringingSexyBack

    Next time one of you bitches talks during a movie I'm gonna throw lighter fluid on your bitch head and make you look like Ghost Rider.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 8:21 a.m. CST

    Silence is Golden

    by Evil Chicken

    …So a shiv or to use a Tazer would still be acceptable? I certainly hope so – if you don’t use ‘em then the movie talkers won’t learn nuthin’.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 8:35 a.m. CST

    In the words of Chris Rock . . . .

    by chewyou812

    "I'm not sayin' I agree with it . . . . I'm just sayin' I understand."

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 8:37 a.m. CST

    NEXT TIME SAY THIS TO A TALKER (IN A COCKNEY ACCENT):

    by BringingSexyBack

    "There'll be one less in this boat ... if you don't shut that hole in your face!!!"

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 8:38 a.m. CST

    MORBIDOBESITY NEVERS TALKS DURING A MOVIE

    by BringingSexyBack

    He has no one to talk to.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 9:03 a.m. CST

    I'm going to open this debate up juat a bit wider...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...I really hate people who feel the need to HONK goodbye when they leave a particular location...regardless of the time of day or fucking night. They JUST said goodbye to the person in question to their slack and pasty face. They JUST gave them a hug and said "...see you later you fat fuck...."...and now they get into their car, start the car...and blare their fucking horn as they drive away...bye!....love you!...oh, and FUCK YOU WORLD!...HONK! HONK! HOOOONK!...SEE HOW MUCH I LOVE THIS ACQUAINTANCE OF MINE?!!...NEVER MIND THAT IT'S FOUR FORTY FIVE I THE MORNING!...THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE HAS TO CONFORM TO MY FUCKING SCHEEDUUUULE! Fuck.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 9:05 a.m. CST

    ..."JUAT"?.....how about "just". I hate people who can't...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...spell.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 9:48 a.m. CST

    Bicycle & WhineyLittle

    by DeeJay

    It's hard to take the two of you serious. You claim that a person acting self-centered and self-absorbed justifies shooting them, yet nearly every one of your posts illustrates that both of you are self-absorbed, yourselves. What's more is that you both have fabricated events to support your strange hypocritical arguments. We already can tell that the shooter was out to find trouble. Additionally, we've yet to read anything that shows the family was being disruptive (although you continue to replace the facts from this case with tidbits from your own personal experiences). You, and others, continue to say that the shooter "asked" the family to be quiet, yet witness testimony does not support that. What's more is that the one known witness established that the shooter initiated violence *on two separate occasions* and Little is now in denial of that fact. As people who appreciate the film-going experience, the two of you should simply be glad that Cialella didn't come to a theatre near you. Had that happened, you'd possibly understand the futility of your denial.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 9:58 a.m. CST

    Bicycle, One Other Thing...

    by DeeJay

    ... what Slappy, Kal Reeve, Antibody and I share is a value for human life. That's one of the things that defines civil society as we know it. Keep in mind that you've expressed a desire for us to get shot, primarily based on the notion that we've disagreed with you in an AICN talkback. I think you're more than capable of seeing the sheer absurdity of having such a desire... but also think the real question is whether you'll be big enough to acknowledge this.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 11:18 a.m. CST

    carry a cell phone jammer...love watching peoples faces

    by j2talk

    when there precious toys don't work....worst invention ever=the cell phone, best invention =the Cellphone Jammer...I don't understand the need to be in constant contact...call me at home or at work if I am not at either than i am busy and don't need to be bothered...

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 11:28 a.m. CST

    A sad state

    by Frankenbastard

    It’s for this very reason I do I mind juggle as to whether a film is a “wait for DVD” viewing or not. If it’s an Epic style movie I’ll pay to see it in a theater. This is the other half of the equation as to why theater going is down. Thanks to VCR’s, DVD’s and shitty parenting ( I blame my generation) people feel like they are still in their living rooms when they go to the movies. As a parent with 2 young kids I have to say that when a movie comes out for the whole family I have to take idiots that talk during a movie into account before I decide to go trek out to the theater. It’s easily a hundred bucks for a night out and when you stack the odds of expensive concessions, possibly crappy film, dumb shits that talk or text on their cell phones, and crappy film prints it’s just worth it to wait for DVD. I thought all this would end with the advent of the 14 dollar movie (IMAX) but I was wrong, people still blather.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 11:30 a.m. CST

    Gran Torino

    by Frank Black

    Friday night I was watching Gran Tornio and this teenager starts openly talking on his cell phone next to me. I gave him a minute to see if it was an emergency and then gave my best Eastwood impression and said "Maybe you should call him back!?!" After it was over I turned to him and said "It is NEVER cool to talk on your cell phone during a movie." He said "Sorry Dude." He will continue this idiotic behavior because proper movie watching etiquette seems to be fading into the past.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 11:47 a.m. CST

    Was the person who got shot black?

    by Laserhead

    Just curious. Cuz, um... nevermind.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 12:04 p.m. CST

    I use nunchucks

    by ironic_name

    works well till I scream like bruce lee and someone tries to glock a muthafucker.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Dee Gay

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    Please fuck off and die. I love how you "value human life," but don't respect it.<p>Big enough, motherfucker, to admit shit? No, bitch, I do, in fact, hope that you get shot in a movie theater because it's fucks like you who've used "individual rights" to piss away "public responsibilities."<p>You're a fucking grade-A moron like all the rest of your ilk, illustrating it by claiming that we've "fabricated events to support our strange hypocritical arguments." I never fabricated any event. I read the article and commented with MY APPROVAL.<p>Next you say that "we already can tell that the shooter was out to find trouble." How can you "tell" that, pole-smoker? He sounds like a dude out to see a movie to me. Who goes looking for trouble in a movie theater besides someone like you and the Family Man who blab their fucking cock-holes and refuses to shut the fuck up? Sounds more like you to me. He's looking for trouble 'cause he's carrying a gun? Welcome to America's second amendment, you cum-guzzling ass wart! Exercising your constitutional right is "looking for trouble?"<p>You follow that gem of what you can "tell" with "we've yet to read anything that shows the family was being disruptive." WTF!?!?!?! Are you mentally fucking retarded, too? It explicitly states that they were TALKING IN THE MOVIE, YOU IGNORANT FUCK! TALKING IN THE MOVIE (ESPECIALLY WHEN TOLD TO SHUT THE FUCK UP) IS FUCKING DISRUPTIVE.<p>I never replaced any facts from this this with personal tidbits. You have got to be the biggest goddamned idiot I've ever seen.<p>You're arguing the semantics of "asked" the family to be quiet with "told" the family to be quiet?!?!?! Seriously?!?!?<p>Let me be perfectly fucking clear so that even a turd-swallowing, cock-licking little pedophile like you can understand. Cialella TOLD THAT TALKING MOTHERFUCKER TO SHUT UP AND THEN SHOT HIS LOUD ASS AND GOOD FOR FUCKING CIALELLA AND I HOPE YOU'RE NEXT ON THE LIST.<p>Is that clear enough for your retarded ass? Cialella told him to shut up then shot him so fucking YAY! Wished he killed the gabby motherfucker.<p>Now go fuck yourself, DeeGay! I hope that when Cialella gets out that he comes to find your Dee Gay ass! And I mean every word I just said.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 12:14 p.m. CST

    And another one of the things, Dee Gay

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    That defines civil society is CIVILITY! And, like I've said before, I love the retarded fucks like you who bemoan the fall of civility when the gunplay starts but bend over backwards to defend every other incivility. I acknowledge that I really do find you unworthy of the air the rest of us breathe.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 12:17 p.m. CST

    This was a long time coming.

    by alienindisguise

    and will probably not be the last incident. We don't pay to hear some dumbfuck yacking away or see the light from some shitheads cellphone out of the corner of our eyes. Respect.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Bicycle Bozo

    by Jaws Wayne

    Man, are you for real ? I dislike talkers in the cinema as much as the next man, but how the fuck can you say that what that mental patient did (take a look at that picture again )was justified. Second amendment my ass. Next time you go to the cinema with your daughter be careful not to say a single word to her once the movie has started, because some fucked up moron might not appreciate it and unload his gun on you. I'm sure your daughter would sympathize with the nutcase, hell, she would probably fire the last bullet in your skull herself. God bless all you Americans.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 2 p.m. CST

    Gun was an overreaction

    by Dr Gregory House

    Beating the shit out of the father in front of the son would have been a much better solution. That was, the charge is only assault and battery, and, more importantly, the father and son learn an important lesson...together. After all, togetherness is what a father/son day at the movies is all about.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 2:38 p.m. CST

    Wow, that's in bad taste

    by Jawa 007

    and not the good Peter Jackson kind. A dude was shot in front of his kid. Not something to be used to make a point...

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 3:10 p.m. CST

    I believe in civility but...

    by Continentalop

    I once went to see "A Beautiful Mind" with two friends when some guy nearby started taking during the movie. At first I let it pass without comment, giving the guy the benefit of the doubt that he was asking an important question (did he give her the keys, if they turned off the oven at home, whatever), but he kept talking so I felt compelled to ask politely if he could please be quiet. Well, he kept talking so I asked slightly louder if he could please be quiet and the guy turned around and said "Fuck off." <p> Normally I am pretty calm and easy going, but this guys attitude made me loose it. I just jumped up and vaulted over two rows, then charge towards him. The theatre was dark, but in my memory I can see his eyes wide open with surprise and shock. I can almost read his thoughts and it was like he was thinking I mouthed off to the wrong man. I don’t consider myself a tough guy by any means, but I am big - 6'2" and weighed at that time 220lbs – and I used to lift a lot, so I know I can look imposing. Also, I used to box and still fool around with it, and at that time I had been studying Krav Maga for about three years. I was also working out a lot at that time, debating if I should re-enlist because of September 11. So the poor bastard who told me to “fuck off” had picked a wrong time to get me angry. <p> In front of the entire crowd and his stunned friend and girlfriend, I proceeded to pummel the shit out of that kid until my brother pulled me off, telling me the kid had enough. I went back to my seat and watched as that talker, with a bloody nose and blackened eyes, was escorted out of the theatre by his girlfriend and his friend. The guy tried shooting me a look, and looked like he was about to say something, when I spoke first and said, “Don’t even tempt me.” The guy’s girl then told him to be quiet and got him out of there, and I was able to watch the rest of the movie without disturbance. <p> Afterwards, people who heard the story always say it was dumb of me to do that. They ask me what if he had a gun? I could have been shot and killed. I would think about it and I would tell them yes, he could have had a gun, but I just as easily could have had one as well. I did him a service. Instead of me beating him up he could have had some nut shoot him. So I just taught him a lesson not to talk during a movie because you don’t know how people there will react. This shooting case just proves my point.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 3:24 p.m. CST

    not that bad

    by a rolling stone

    He didn't die, he didn't comatose, he didn't lose the arm, his kids weren't injured. It was a flesh-wound, some blood-loss, the shooter was arrested, and a lesson was learned. Big deal. If he punched him or cut him with a box-cutter, we wouldn't all know about it. He used a lethal weapon in a non-lethal way. C'mon, kids. The talker had it coming, and who here hasn't been shot before? Honestly.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 3:30 p.m. CST

    Jawa 007

    by FatherMcGruderKicksAssForTheLord

    Not endorsing or condoning, but do you think that kid will ever talk during a movie again? Or, you know, GO to a movie again?

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 3:47 p.m. CST

    DeeJay

    by WhinyNegativeBitch

    "What's more is that you both have fabricated events to support your strange hypocritical arguments."...No I didn't. You did however, with this supposition; "We already can tell that the shooter was out to find trouble. Additionally, we've yet to read anything that shows the family was being disruptive" ALL reports on the matter refer to the family as being disruptive AND violent, and there is no way for you to know tha the shooter went out looking for trouble. At all. You are, as they say, MAKING SHIT UP. "yet witness testimony does not support that." Except thats EXACTLY what witnesses said happened. "What's more is that the one known witness established that the shooter initiated violence *on two separate occasions*" Um, no. No they didn't. Now you're just making shit up again. Did you even read any of the articles? Again, it's not even argument, because it's really this simple; Shut your fucking mouth in the cinema. This person broke one of the easiest to follow codes of civility, and was treated like the pig he is. It's like when neighbours get into violent altercations of music levels. Real simple, turn your fucking music down. No one wants to hear it but you. Just as people are suprised when idiotic drivers get shot in road rage incidents. Again, don't fucking run red lights, cut people off or otherwise act like a jerk, and people won't beat you with club locks. Don't want to get shot in a movie theatre. SHUT YOUR FUCING MOUTH and watch the movie, and when someone asks you to shut the fuck up, DO IT. Otherwise take your ape child and go to the zoo where you belong.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 3:47 p.m. CST

    As for the hypocritical part...

    by WhinyNegativeBitch

    ...I don't talk in movies. So you make no fucking sense, yet again.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 4:38 p.m. CST

    Shootings during the NOTORIOUS B.I.G. MOVIE?

    by Leafar the Lost

    Why would someone say that there would be shootings during that movie? What is it about the subject matter of the B.I.G. movie that suggests a violent reaction from the movie goers? Are you saying that there is something about the potential audience for this movie that makes violence more likely than some other movie? What are you saying?

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 4:55 p.m. CST

    Leafar the Lost

    by mode_7

    He's saying exactly what you think he's saying, and what he's saying is probably true. I should imagine there would be a lot more guns in the audience of a B.I.G. movie than there would for fucking Shrek 3 or something.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 5:08 p.m. CST

    Cotton, you are an asshole

    by Dr. Hfuhruhurr

    I knew someone would mention throwing snowballs at Santa Claus. Happened 40 years ago and people still bring it up. That "Santa" was a skinny, 19 year old kid. You'd booed him, too. How about NY fans throwing packs of sugar on the ice when Bobby Clarke got diabetes? Or Cleveland Brown fans throwing batteries on the field? Or NY Knick fans booing their team during Dr. J's final game at MSG? Or people throwing pork chops at Buddy Ryan after he almost choked on one? Or Yankee fans booing and threatening Roger Maris when he was breaking Ruth's home run record? Ever heard of the term Bronx Cheer? It's not called a Philly Cheer. Really. Give it a rest. 2 million fans turned out to celebrate the 2008 World Champion Philadelphia Phillies.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 5:17 p.m. CST

    Never mind that the "jail" at the old Vet doesn't exist at the n

    by Dr. Hfuhruhurr

    Why? No need for it.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 5:18 p.m. CST

    doesn't exist at the new stadium, that is.

    by Dr. Hfuhruhurr

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 5:31 p.m. CST

    It probably did not happen in Spirit

    by Dazzler69

    Because that movie sucked.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 5:49 p.m. CST

    WhineyNegative & Bicycle

    by DeeJay

    Any non-misanthrope who's lived more than 2.5 decades can tell when they're dealing with a troublemaker. An armed loner who goes into a crowded movie theatre and initiates a violent confrontation on Christmas Day is a more-than-obvious troublemaker. So obvious, in fact, that the denials of the Bicycle Sharer (also known as "2-Guys-on-a-Tandem") are either laughable or clinical. Considering the borderline-psychotic language in Bicycle's last few posts, I'll leave it to others here to decide that matter. WhineyNegative... when you wrote that the father had acted violent, you were lying. We both know this, so I'm not sure why you'd continue down that road. The father actually showed a good deal of restraint after Cialella's first assault (throwing popcorn on someone is actually a form of assault). The word "disruptive" was never used to describe the family in any of the articles that I read on the incident. For all we know, the father could've been disciplining his son, the two of them could've been laughing at an on-screen joke, or whatever. We simply don't know what had been said or even if it was disruptive. The notion of their being disruptive is merely a conclusion that you and others quickly jumped to, as it neatly falls within a narrative with which you're familiar. Finally, the reason the two of you are hypocritical is that you openly embrace gun violence as a remedy to all sorts of non-violent social conflicts, yet you use phrases such as "civil" to describe desired behavior. For goodness sake... you've embraced the act of a mentally ill person recklessly discharging a firearm in what was likely a dark theatre--- with multiple innocent bystanders within range of the bullet. The fact that either of you would even reference the term "civil society" when you both promote wild west-styled retribution is logically contradictory, but you're free to your view on that. WhineyNegative, while it's nice that you don't talk during movies at multiplexes, would you not agree that if a troublemaker is looking for a confrontation with you, that person will be sure to find a reason to get something started?

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 5:53 p.m. CST

    A Rolling Stone

    by DeeJay

    Having seen people experience the short and long-term consequences of being shot, I can tell you that this was not a minor matter, at all. This is not even considering the reality that the bullet could've severed an artery, and caused the father to bleed to death.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 6:50 p.m. CST

    did the guy ask them to shut up first?

    by shitjet

    just wondering...

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 7:02 p.m. CST

    Should have done this as a musical.

    by mrfan

    I might have seen it.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 7:03 p.m. CST

    Damn. Posted in the wrong talkback.

    by mrfan

    I picked a fine week to quit sniffing glue.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 7:30 p.m. CST

    He's the Travis Bickle of movie goers...

    by Chishu_Ryu

    "Listen you fuckers, you screwheads. Here is a man who would not take it anymore. A man who stood up against the scum, the filth, the people who talk during movies. Here is a man who stood up."

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 8:10 p.m. CST

    Violence is the only thing that stops bad behavior

    by terry1978

    Honestly, it is. I know that is a fucked up way of thinking, but the only thing that makes most normal functioning people stop doing what they're doing in a place that is public and has no consequences is threats of violence to their personage. There's a difference between acting like a coward and just being cautious because there are nutjobs all over the place.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 8:40 p.m. CST

    Chishu_Ryu, he overreacted but,

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    everything else you said is true. He also reminds me of Michael Douglas in Falling Down, he gave everyone a chance before he unloaded. Falling Down was funny because it was a movie. In real life unfortunately it is not.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 8:57 p.m. CST

    Continentalop

    by DoctorWho?

    Great Story. <p> Though if your hair trigger response was to hurdle two rows of movie seats to pummel that clown, I would hardly classify yourself as "pretty calm and easy going".<p> Needles to say, you are my hero.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 9:01 p.m. CST

    MANDATORY BALL GAGS IN THEATERS

    by BringingSexyBack

    Problem solved.

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 11:37 p.m. CST

    I don't talk during a movie...

    by Johnno

    But I occasionally like to toss out well timed witty one liners every now and then that the majority of my theatre going compatriots find amusing thus elevating their viewing experience.<br><br>And also to excuse myself if I really really have to go to the bathroom in order to get past people... that's allowed right?

  • Dec. 28, 2008, 11:53 p.m. CST

    when people talk at my theater...

    by mfcorleone

    ...i go sit right next to them and start forcing out some farts. One time, I straight up shit myself. That'll teach those classless fucks. Oh and I was at a screening once and he was texting and talking ang typing on his laptop. It was a premiere for Turistas, which made his best films of 2007 list.

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 1:35 a.m. CST

    Hey Deejay

    by Buckeye

    Whoa! So now it was the shooter who initiated the confrontation? I'm not sure what article you are reading, but every one I've read (and I've googled more than a couple) have stated that the family was talking during the movie. In fact, the headline for most of the articles states that point exactly. You seem to be more than willing to invent any number of excuses for the victims behavior. It's this exact "victim enabling" attitude that encourages these kinds of people to continue with their rude and obnoxious behavior. Gee, maybe they were just laughing or daddy was explaing something, blah, blah, blah. You're pretty free with the ifs and buts when you want to excuse the obnoxious behavior of poor Yappy McVictim. The articles that I've read also state that Cialella got out of his seat to confront Chatty Cathy and the confrontation became physical. Not one article that I've read mentions which party escalated the confrontation into the realm of the physical. Don't even bother going to the "Cialella threw popcorn and that constitutes a physical assault" crap. Surely someone of your oviously European bent would not dare suggest that a physical assault is the proper response to someone throwing popcorn? Violence begets violence. Isn't that what the morally superior say? Anyway...I guess since Cialella was a gun owner and all gun owners are univerally and irredeemably evil we'll just go ahead and say that the escalation of the confrontation was his fault. Of course we'll have to overlook the fact that, by your assertion, the whole point of his trip to the theatre was to start something with someone so he could shoot them. So why didn't he just walk down the theatre aisle and shoot him without wasting time and breath on discussion and fisticuffs? Maybe he just likes putting his hands on people because he is, as you state, mentally ill. Which brings me to another point. Not one of the articles that I read concerning this incident mentioned any form of mental illness that Cialella is supposed to be suffering from, yet you have taken to characterizing him as "mentally ill." Clearly he does seem to have some "anger management issues" at the very least, but what special incite or inside knowledge do you have that entitles you to characterize this man as mentally ill? Is it your opinion that all gun owners are mentally ill? Ticking time bombs waiting to go off? Or is it your assertion that all who are suffering from mental illness are violent people, looking for any excuse to attack someone. Hell, you're not just implying it, you're stating it as a fact. You continue to imply that Cialella set out with the intent of doing bodily harm to someone. Not one article that I've read alludes to this fact. You just seem to have decided that this should be an obvious conclusion for anyone to reach (anyone as highly evolved as yourself that is) and can therefore be stated as a fact. You want to know a fact that I extrapolated from all of this? If the guy and his family had just shut the hell up when someone in the theatre let them know they were being too loud all of this could have been avoided. All poor daddy had to say was, "Oh...sorry about that" and shut his trap and none of us would be discussing this. In doing this he also would have set a proper example for his son to follow. I'm not advocating shooting rude people in theatres (not all of them anyway...you have to let a few go so they can spread the word)but by the use of just a little common decency and civility on the part of poor Woffard Lomax (yappy's real name) a festive movie going experience could have been had by all. Now why don't you go have another wheatgrass smoothie and contemplate more ways to reduce your carbon footprint you nutty pacifist you!

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 1:36 a.m. CST

    Yikes that was long!

    by Buckeye

    That did not look that long when I was typing it in that tiny little box! Sorry about the length of my rant everyone!

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 1:40 a.m. CST

    ATTN: ANTIBODY... boo fucking hoo

    by ChuckImania

    I'm not condoning violence, but I can definitely see where this guy is coming from. If you can't, chances are your the parent that thinks it's a good idea to bring his bratty toddler to an R movie. The level of self importance these mother-fuckers have obtain is damn right revolting. It's all common sense: don't talk during the movie (or trailers), turn your fucking cell phone off (fucking silencing it), don't super kick the back of the chair in front of yours, and if you do have the decency to to let out a whispered "My bad", and for fucking sakes keep your little whinny bundles of joy at home where they belong. Taking a crying two year old to a theater is not only selfish, it's horrendous parenting. I love the oh so common excuses these people come out with, especially the ones regarding their demon spawn. "He's a baby!", yeah exactly, a baby with a irresponsible parent(s) that could careless about the the rest of world. During the premier of LOTR Two Towers this old cunt fell asleep in the theater and proceeded to snore through about fifteen minutes of the film until I woke her old ass up and told her to stuff it; she rolled her eyes at me and embarrassingly exited into the lobby, hopefully awaiting a ride from the grim reaper.

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 2:21 a.m. CST

    Buckeye...

    by DeeJay

    ...a father talking to his kid is not the same as initiating a confrontation. Throwing popcorn on a stranger generally *is* initiating a confrontation. The articles have been more than clear in noting that the father merely stood-up to shield his family from Cialella, when he came towards them *after* throwing popcorn on his son. There's simply no ambiguity regarding Cialella being the aggressor in this situation. As far as his being at the theatre in hopes of some type of confrontation emerging, yes, that's also pretty obvious. Can you imagine how this story would've played out, had the father retaliated after Cialella threw popcorn on his kid (who is likely younger than the age of 15)? Regarding Cialella being mentally ill, how much evidence do you need to accept that the guy wasn't in possession of all of his faculties? If the glassy-eyed mug shot didn't clue you in, how can you simply dismiss his behavior before the incident, the timing of the incident, and his behavior after the incident? To accept that this particular gun owner was not well is so far from making any generalizations about "all" gun owners that I struggle to see how you'd accuse me of such a thing. By the way... what do you mean by "someone of (my) obviously European bent?"

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 2:35 a.m. CST

    Being Annoyed < Being Homocidal

    by DeeJay

    Buckeye... one other thing; just as being annoyed by a fellow moviegoer is light years away from being homocidal and shooting them, denouncing lunatics who discharge firearms in theatres is a far cry from being a "nutty pacifist." Fellow poster, I simply think we can all be better than Cialella, in this instance. Moreover, with most of us being movie lovers, we *should* be better.

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 3:05 a.m. CST

    Kurzinski...

    by DeeJay

    ... first off, we're to understand that he didn't "ask." Second, we don't even know that the family was being disruptive. From what we've seen, nobody antagonized this individual to commit 2 separate assaults. Do you really not see that the shooter had much more than "Benjamin Buttons" on his mind?

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 7:10 a.m. CST

    ROFLMAANOOOOLOL!!!!

    by BringingSexyBack

    Buckeye defends the psychotic James Cialella for shooting someone but apologizes for a long rant. Dude, you need meds.

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 7:16 a.m. CST

    WHO HASN'T WANTED TO SHOOT SOMEBODY FOR ANNOYING YOU?

    by BringingSexyBack

    The difference between a healthily socialized member of society and one who needs to be preemptively incarcerated is that one DOESN'T SHOOT SOMEONE WITH A FUCKING GUN JUST BECAUSE THEY ANNOY YOU. It's the same as shooting some nigga for stepping on your sneakers during a Biggie movie, which we all expect to read about when the movie comes out. <P> Some of you are goddamn crazy. Guns need banning. Pronto.

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 7:24 a.m. CST

    SHOOTING A TALKER MAKES STONING A RAPE VICTIM FOR ADULTERY

    by BringingSexyBack

    seem reasonable.

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 7:26 a.m. CST

    AS NEITHER A TALKER NOR A SHOOTER

    by BringingSexyBack

    I'd rather be sitting next to a talker than someone who thinks it's okay to shoot someone.

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 7:30 a.m. CST

    What he did wasn't right

    by Abominable Snowcone

    but I completely understand.

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 7:34 a.m. CST

    I Live In a City With a 50%+ Black Population

    by kevinwillis.net

    And the only time I've experienced the "black people talking through the entire movie" experience was when I was one of three white people in the theater--and a lot of that was them talking to us, since apparently it was a novelty for white boys to venture into "their" theater.<br><br> But, most of the folks I've gotten pissed off at for talking in a movie were white. Often drunk. One guy during Gremlins (this was years ago) wouldn't stop yelling how everything was the worst he had seen since Vietnam. From beginning to end. <br><Br>Damn veterans, consumers of alcoholic beverages, and white people. They need to shut up during my movie, or BSB will shoot them.

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 7:37 a.m. CST

    I Agree with Abominable

    by kevinwillis.net

    The punishment did not fit the crime. Still, I'll definitely make sure I turn off my cell phone the next time I'm at the theater.

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 7:38 a.m. CST

    Metal detectors would suck

    by Abominable Snowcone

    not because it would inconvenience people, but because while it gets rid of weapons, it DOESN'T address the problem of morons talking and texting during the show. Which is too bad, because it's a significant problem and I've never been to a cinema yet where mgmt or staff does anything proactive about it. And when theatregoers have to self-govern, that's when shit like this happens.

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 7:39 a.m. CST

    BTW, Black People Talking in the Theater

    by kevinwillis.net

    Are talking to the movie, about the movie, in a noisy reaction to the movie. White people are talking about what happened with their neighbor or what their friend did wrong or how they broke their iPod or about the tough times at work or . . . just about anything, most of it having nothing to do with the movie. I can at least understand talking to the movie. Or about the movie. At the movie. Just saying.<Br><br> And, yeah, it was totally racist of me to say that, but, c'est la vie!

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 7:43 a.m. CST

    B.I.G. = BLACKS INITIATING GUNFIRE

    by BringingSexyBack

    As an unarmed non-Italian cracker I will be crossing the street at any theater showing the Biggie movie. Is that racist? Who gives a shit? I wanna live to talkback until I'm 100.

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 7:44 a.m. CST

    While we're on the subject

    by Abominable Snowcone

    I'm an admitted musical snob, and when I attend concerts I also expect people to not talk. Now, I don't mean not talk or cheer AT ALL, I mean refrain from prolonged conversations where you're shouting over the music for minutes at length to tell your buddy something of absolutely no consequence. It sucks paying $50 or more for a show, then having drunken frat boys or Joe Dirts next to you talking endlessly about how awesome Neil Peart is rather than just watch the show and enjoy the music.

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 7:48 a.m. CST

    BLACK PEOPLE ALSO TALK ABOUT WHITE PEOPLE IN DEROGATORY WAYS

    by BringingSexyBack

    in public. And I don't even live in a city with 50%+ black population. Granted, I talk about white people the same way, but that's okay.

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 7:48 a.m. CST

    Revisiting the original article

    by Abominable Snowcone

    I find it hard to imagine that creepy dude wanting to see Benjamin Button, much less imagine him sitting there watching Brad Pitt's latest touchy-feely epic with a frickin' gun in his pants. And I thought I was being devilish by sneaking milk duds and swedish fish into the show...

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 7:49 a.m. CST

    It would have been mildly funny

    by Abominable Snowcone

    had the movie been "Marley and Me" instead

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 7:52 a.m. CST

    JUST KNOCK ON THE FOREHEAD OF THE TALKER

    by BringingSexyBack

    and say "Hello! We're trying to enjoy the show! Hello!"

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 7:55 a.m. CST

    IF IT'S OKAY TO SHOOT A TALKER THEN IT'S OKAY

    by BringingSexyBack

    to stomp someone to death for a Black Friday sale. Just sayin'.

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 7:58 a.m. CST

    Talking in theaters VS Shooting people

    by Chishu_Ryu

    Wow. You guys here who are actually trying to defend this Cialis character are TRUE movie geeks. If any of youse were President, you'd probably pass a bill making talking in a theater a federal offense. Well, in our reality, it's not, it's not even a misdemeanor. Hell, you can't even get thrown out by management. Basically, talking during a movie is not a crime. It ain't cool, but it's not a crime. Shooting somebody while not protecting your own life, is a crime.<p> Kind of like the person in front of you driving the speed limit on the freeway in the left lane isn't being cool or socially aware, but they're not breaking any laws, and it doesn't give you the right to suddenly break the law and drive them off the road in an act of road rage.<p> Cialala is obviously a mentally disturbed individual in serious need of a state psychological evaluation with some jail time tacked on for good measure.<p> If you want a pristine cinematic experience free of popcorn munching, cell phone ringing, babies crying, and just generally other PEOPLE, wait for the DVD and stay home with your guns...

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 8:04 a.m. CST

    The problem is everyone feels they're entitled

    by terry1978

    If I pay for something, I am entitled to do whatever the fuck I want. That mindset right there is the whole problem across the board with society in general.

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 8:13 a.m. CST

    Are there silent tranquilizer guns?

    by HoichiTheEarless

    A real gun is a bit much. But seriously, I'd have no problem at all if movie talkers got plugged with a tranquilizer dart. They deserve it for thinking their right to blabber supersedes the right of everyone else in the theater to enjoy a movie. The only potential downfall to a silent tranquilizer gun is a potential yelp before the asshole loses consciousness.

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 8:17 a.m. CST

    Damn Deejay

    by cripeman

    So you're defending being a rude prick in a movie theater...

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 8:41 a.m. CST

    "One time, I straight up shit myself...

    by DocPazuzu

    ..That'll teach those classless fucks." <p> Thread won.

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 10:07 a.m. CST

    Let this be a lesson to you.

    by gotilk

    Never breed with your relatives.

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 10:11 a.m. CST

    One thing I don't see anymore are ushers.

    by mrfan

    No ushers checking things out. Many times I have gone to the restroom or snack stand and seen employees standing around doing nothing. Wish ushers would check more and enforce the rules.<p>Also, I think that if caught with a cell phone you can get one strike. After that the theatre can/should kick your sorry ass out or confiscate your phone until after the movie.<p>I had a friend of mine that was a projectionist. If he heard people getting too loud then he shut off the movie and said something about being quiet to the crowd. Gave a speech about it's sad when a few people try to ruin it for everyone. He said he would continually do this if people kept talking. Talk about a pissed off crowd but it shut up those talking. They didn't want to face the wrath of everyone in that theatre.

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Cripeman & Chisu_Ryu

    by DeeJay

    ... no, I'm not. Nor have I. Chisu_Ryu... you're more than right about this. While I have more sympathy for the survivors of the assault, it's actually rather sad when poeple like Cialella melt-down over the holidays.

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 10:34 a.m. CST

    DeeJay,

    by mrfan

    Speaking of meltdowns how about that guy who snapped on Christmas Eve, dressed as Santa, killed his ex-wife (family/friends), and then killed himself. Talk about sad.

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Benjamin Button

    by Abominable Snowcone

    is not the movie you want to be seeing when you're arrested for shooting someone in the theater. Come on now. Couldn't he have waited for Avatar or Watchmen? Sheesh.

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 10:58 a.m. CST

    Mr. Fan...

    by DeeJay

    ... yeah, that was even worse than this incident. Makes me appreciate my friends and family even more.

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 11:28 a.m. CST

    Cripeman...

    by DeeJay

    ... no, I'm not. Nor have I. That part of the message was meant for you, not Chisu.

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 11:58 a.m. CST

    MY FATHER-IN-LAW ANNOYS ME MORE THAN TALKERS

    by BringingSexyBack

    He's lucky I don't have a firearm. Or a bat.

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Damn!

    by quicksilver80

    If that guy Cialella was here, he'd have shot DeeJay already...what an annoying whiner...

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 12:41 p.m. CST

    by quicksilver80

    "were here" my bad..

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 2:05 p.m. CST

    2 minutes Ass kicking law....

    by Darth Macchio

    Here's what I propose...<p>First, the situation: There are numerous social situations where people have paid money to be present and others present ruin the experience which, in a slightly absurd way, could be argued as a form of theft (no, not legally perhaps but ethically or even morally? maybe so). Since it is assault to even touch the theater yappers, the people who are having to listen to these assholes have to be the ones to go out of their way to stop it by getting an usher.<p>About a year plus ago, I think it was Mori who wrote a big article on why theaters are loosing money and why people many people simply HATE going to the movies. The problem is 2 fold...<p>1) People who pay their ticket price and are respectfully quiet should not be the ones having to be the sole arbitrators for those talking or making incessant noise in a movie. Simply put, it should be the movie theater itself that polices this activity, not the customer.<p>2) In that original write up from Mori, many theater workers including some managers piped in and said it's basically impossible to monitor the situation and that, unfortunately, you the movie-goer have to exit the theater to get an usher so you, the respectfully quiet movie goer, looses out twice from your movie-going experience.<p>Since it is abundantly unfair to force the respectfully quiet movie-goer to police the douchebags among us and regular chain theaters are either incapable or unwilling to stop it...I propose a 2-minute ass kicking law. It goes something like this:<p>When you commit an act that is not specifically illegal but is obviously a huge DICK move, then you open yourself up to a 2-minute ass kicking from the chief victim of your douchebaggery. The scene would have played out like this...<p>Father and son yap away, glibly blind to the sheer lack of respect and courtesy of their flapping burger-holes. Respectfully quiet movie goes asks them to please be quiet. Father and son get miffed at this affront to their sovereignty and decide to tell respectful movie-goer to fuck off. Respectful movie goes now has a free 2 minutes to kick "Father's" ass with impunity.<p>Now, of course there's all kinds of complications...people have been killed in fights lasting less than 2 minutes and tho the ushers should be policing theater assholes, they're not morticians.<p>The point is these assholes talk as if their own reality is really a movie and the rest of us are bit players in the movie of their lives. Half the reason they do this is they either don't know realize it's monumentally rude and/or they simply haven't had their asses handed to them in the form of "societal parenting" which takes the form of my 2-minute ass kicking law.<p>Impossible to implement unfortunately...but if people were simply legally allowed to punch these jagoffs in the face just once before cops step in with assault (and the douchebags don't get to swing back at all), believe me...after paying 8 bucks per shiner or bloodied lip or nose, these asswipes would think twice before yapping away.

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 2:33 p.m. CST

    Quicksilver...

    by DeeJay

    ... so, disagreeing with your opinion is equivalent to whining, huh? I guess I should expect as much from someone whose uses the handle of "Quicksilver," but emerges in a dialog two days late. Whatever. You obviously don't have too much of a problem with my posts... considering that you continue to read them.

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 2:55 p.m. CST

    "This is the City of Brotherly Love? "

    by Shepard Wong

    "That's what New Yorkers call it. They don't live here."

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 3:55 p.m. CST

    There's always someone meaner

    by a rolling stone

    I still say it was deserved. You can't bully all the kids in the playground just because you think you're the alpha dog. Many might tip-toe around you and allow you to be a prick, but eventually, someone in that yard will re-educate you as to what a bully truly is. The proper way to respond is not with hurt tears and "why me?", but a humble acceptance for punishment that (in my opinion) fit the crime...but maybe that's why I'm on meds. Who knows.

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 4:09 p.m. CST

    Not sure if he deserved to be shot, but...

    by The Drude

    ... I once kicked an asshole in the back of the head for talking during a film... just about knocked him out. After he recovered, he and his girlfriend got up and silently walked out of the theatre. I waited for someone (such as the police) to show up, but no one ever came. I got some applause as well. Also, a friend of mine once grabbed a woman's cell phone from her (she was texting someone and the bright light was shining directly into our faces) and threw it across the theatre... again, she just got up, retrieved her phone, and walked out. Maybe if people fear the repercussions, there will be a little less asshole-ness during movies...

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 7:27 p.m. CST

    DeeJay, I really don't think this site is for you...

    by MCSuchandsuch

    and I say this with no anger. If you take black comedy and obviously over-the-top examples of humor so seriously, and weird news with such a morose bent, maybe AICN is not for you. Maybe a lot of things are not for you. The other night SNL Weekend Update joked about a plumber who poured cyanide in his wife's drink. She probably died. And yet they joked and the audience laughed. I'm not trying to get back at you, or show you up or prove you wrong, I just sincerely think that you have certain sensibilities ill-suited for much of the modern world, and this site included in that.

  • Dec. 29, 2008, 10:35 p.m. CST

    just do what 2for2true does....

    by just pillow talk

    http://www.aintitcool.com/talkback_display/35294#comment_1848549<p>Cause that's how he rolls bitches...

  • Dec. 30, 2008, 9:13 a.m. CST

    MCSuch...

    by DeeJay

    ... just as a reminder, I'm not the one becoming unhinged and raving about other members of AICN needing to be shot (as some in this particular talkback have done). To wit, in the +10 years I've been at AICN, this talkback is one of the lowest moments I've witnessed. Many of the comments haven't been reflective of the "modern" world as you reference it. In fact, some have been consistent with a regression back to days before our modern rule of law & some were consistent with living in a "fantasy" world. Haven't you ever wondered why some celebrities have publicly slammed AICN--- yet haven't slammed *any* other such site on the net? In a few years, when many who've posted on this page have a lived life a little longer, you'll understand.

  • Dec. 30, 2008, 6:11 p.m. CST

    DeeJay...

    by MCSuchandsuch

    I understand. Precisely why I think this place may not be for you. I sincerely doubt that any of these people are going to shoot you, me, anyone else online or anyone talking in a theater. I think they're letting off steam, commiserating around common bad experiences. One that you seem to defend. I also sincerely doubt that the shooter would have assaulted the family had they not been disruptive. I think that may be what pushed him over whatever ledge he was on. Furthermore, I think that throwing popcorn on someone isn't assault. I myself think that a sad commentary on modern society is how eagerly we go to the government, police, lawyers or other authority figures to solve minor problems for us. If someone threw popcorn at me I would like to think that me and my assailant could hash it out without me suing the person for... throwing popcorn on me. If you think this talkback is bad, the other day someone wished a talkbacker's kid would die in a car crash so that his alleged ignorance could die out. That is so much more harsh. I suggest if these things bother you to send Harry an email detailing your frustrations. Or you could choose to visit other sites. But I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the world or Harry to change. Also, what celebrities have slammed AICN? I haven't heard of any, but have heard celebrities slamming MySpace and Wikipedia.

  • Dec. 31, 2008, 8:56 a.m. CST

    MCSuch...

    by DeeJay

    ... you still don't get it, do you? I don't have to support rude behavior in order to see how sad it is that someone over the edge released a round (and caused a riot) in a neighborhood cinema. Those two things aren't mutually exclusive... and the former hasn't even been proven in this incident. While you're free to have faith that a man over the edge needs sufficient provocation to shoot someone, I don't think I could find an expert or a wise man who'd agree with you. Furthermore, while certain posters celebrating the crime and saying they hope 1-4 fellow posters also get shot by Cialella may not be as bad as hoping someone's kid dies, both statements fall pretty close to the "imbalanced" category. The celebration of a violent criminal act can be many things, but it isn't "letting off steam," fellow poster. Also; throwing popcorn on someone, spitting on them, or hitting them with a shoe would be considered assault by most US laws. By themselves, these acts generally wouldn't lead to person getting 10-20 years, but when any of them serves as a gateway to more severe violence, it would be unwise to ignore it. Finally, in one of the "Transformers" featurettes, Shia Lebouf ripped on AICN posters who obsessed about said movie. One of the film magazines--- maybe "Empire"--- once asked Brett Ratner why it seemed that Harry Knowles was using AICN as a vehicle to rip him (he was diplomatic, but dismissive). Heck, I've even seen non-celebrity posters on another website (mania.com) rip on the thinking process of AICN posters. I've been here for +10 years, so I obviously believe in taking the good with the bad. That doesn't mean that I'm going to join in with negative groupthink, though. AICN is not your backyard, so you don't make the rules, fellow poster. After all, you're free to follow your own advice and e-mail Harry your frustrations with those posters who support the rule of law, don't engage in cuss-fests, and don't hope for the deaths of others. Or, you could choose to visit other sites. That is, if such things "bother" you.

  • Dec. 31, 2008, 10:03 a.m. CST

    My Second Sentence Should Read:

    by DeeJay

    "Those two things *can be* mutually exclusive..."

  • Dec. 31, 2008, 5:12 p.m. CST

    DeeJay...

    by MCSuchandsuch

    it seems you also have a problem "getting it". In all actuality, everyone does as the investigation is ongoing. No one knows anything except the people that were involved. There has been no news on how unhinged this guy was, how disruptive the family was, and whether the previous statements were even true. I think the smart thing to do from this point forward is to wait and comment on the case and its meaning for society when the case is closed. As for myself, I am not bothered. I wasn't the one complaining, it was you. Why would I write a letter to Harry? The assholes will be assholes, and I have no problem with the polite posters as you falsely implied. I don't expect you to join in, I'm just trying to explain to you that you shouldn't come in here like a schoolmarm trying to calm everyone down when clearly they're all blowing off steam about bad experiences. The article was a catalyst for a discussion on the breakdown of movie watching etiquette. None of these people will be inspired enough to put holes in chests at the next Cineplex, I suspect. It is not backyard. It is also not yours. It is Harry's however, and it behooves him to keep the visitors in his backyard happy less they all go somewhere else and he's out of a gig. The reason Shia LeBouf and Brett Ratner have slammed AICN is that they're not exactly beloved. They both were involved in, and some would say had a negative effect on, genre movies much loved by the posters here. I would surely hope you have better taste in celebrities to give an ear to than those two. Sly Stallone is a fan of this site. People here think he's talented and friendly. Excuse me if I side with Rocky Balboa over the director of Rush Hour 3 and the dude from Eagle Eye. And calm down. I'm typing to you with no malice and nothing to prove, and you seem to be getting more agitated. It's not healthy. It's just the internet and it's ultimately meaningless. And if you take things on the internet seriously, perhaps you should do your best in your personal life to improve the situations you see as contributing to this negative groupthink, such as volunteering with a mediation group or other activities.

  • Jan. 1, 2009, 12:05 p.m. CST

    MCSuch...

    by DeeJay

    "Unhinged" doesn't necessarily come in degrees. A person usually is unhinged or they aren't. However, you're partially correct in noting that we haven't yet determined "if" the family was disruptive (though many former posters have made the assumption that they were). Glad to hear you aren't "bothered" by this dialog... even though it was you who first used that term. In the grander scheme of things, I've simply one of many that has expressed my views on the matter... which obviously disturbs you on some deep level (this would explain your grandiose comment where you went so far as to speak on behalf of "modern" society). Why my views bother you so much is, of course, up to you to find out. Just don't think people will fall for disingenuous comments, such as your claim that various others were simply "blowing off steam" when they expressed a desire for AICN members to be shot, used 4-letter words as if they were going out of style, and even proclaimed that the perpetrator of this crime was their "hero." This discussion had little to do with movie-watching etiquette, as you claim, considering the references to "ape" children and slams on the city of Philadelphia. Fellow poster, you're free to continue being an apologist for whomever you choose, but know that your poor man's attempts at both psychoanalysis and deflection are both transparent and sophomoric. In fact, many a therapist would likely say your deflections are actual evidence that you're in denial. That's another matter, though. The larger matter is your statement regarding the manner in which we should treat the performers you don't personally value (e.g. LeBouf & Rattner). This explains a good deal about why you seem okay with the cinema assault being treated as if it's funny, as well as why you'd tell a fellow poster to "drink a Clorox milkshake." Of course, Slappy should know that there was no malice behind those words... you were just foolin' when you wrote that.

  • Jan. 1, 2009, 5:10 p.m. CST

    DeeJay

    by MCSuchandsuch

    While I may have used the term "bothered" first, it was merely out of concern for you. This talkback does not bother me. The jokes and stories do not bother me. They obviously bother you, as you have made many a post admonishing the talkbackers here, and the fact that this site turns a blind eye to this bothers you, or else you wouldn't have paid so much heed to Brett Ratner and Shia LeBouf. I have come to accept this site for what it is. You will occasionally find good criticism, fairness and nuggets of wisdom, more often you will find churlishness and derision. I am at peace with that. If you are not, you are free to post elsewhere. Many things worry me. Political corruption, terrorism, lack of emphasis on education and parenting. What frustrated movie fans say on a cult web site does not rank up there with those. When people go online, they generally speak without a filter and are freer to make darkly humorous statements. While I would never tell someone to their face to drink a Clorox milkshake, I doubt that slappy defiantly talks during movies as well. Both are exaggerated statements, I believe. I don't think I've spoken for society, or claim to do so. I think society is complicated enough and is probably impossible to speak for. I don't claim to be an expert on anything, I just am offering my opinion with no particular strong emotion. However, your continued agitation with me when I've been nothing but rational and calm with you concerns me. You call my points transparent and sophomoric, and claim that therapists would state that I'm in denial. It appears that you are speaking on behalf of therapists in regards to the mental health of someone you've never met and experienced just a handful of discussions with. I think you are experiencing what some therapists call "pot calling the kettle black" or more scientifically "talking out one's ass". I think you're bothered here more than you're willing to admit. I think you're bothered in general more than you're willing to admit. I think in this new year that you should take a step back, and try to figure out what bothers you, and work on that. The beautiful thing about life is that it is what you make of it. If opinions and discussions like these bother you, you can go elsewhere, or start your own community! If the way women dress or act bother you, you can choose to have a partner that is more to your morality. There is literally something for everyone here. You can be a hedonist in Los Angeles or a Mennonite in Missouri. I wouldn't take my opinions on Rattner and LeBouf so seriously. I think they've both done some okay things, and some things that made me want to drink Clorox myself. I think the fact that you made mention of those people in regards to criticism of AICN speaks a lot about your satisfaction here. And your repeated critical comments towards me speaks a lot about your satisfaction with yourself and your life. This is a minor news story published on a slow news day. Honestly. Combat racism in your local community. Work with the underprivileged. Join a support group, or volunteer with a Big Brother program. I'm just a college student in his 20s with some good friends, good buzz and good grades (so far). If you're not as content as you'd like, you're the only person to blame, fellow poster. We're all rooting for you.

  • Jan. 2, 2009, 1:47 a.m. CST

    MCSuch...

    by DeeJay

    Like I previously wrote, your technique is both transparent and sophomoric. I'm actually entertained by your projection through repeated use of the terms "agitated" and "bothered." Are you testing what you learned in a 1-credit self-hypnotism course you took last fall? Whatever the case, it was funny. Still, maybe you'd consider expressing your "concern" to some of your fellow posters who've---I don't know--- told people to go someplace and die, among other things. Were you to actually *read* my prior posts without filters, you'd find that I wasn't admonishing anyone. That is, unless you believe the questions I raised were rhetorical. In the end, it's good to see how you can so easily switch from advising that Slappy commit suicide (as a funny) to being concerned about me. If I didn't know better, I'd think you were--- in scientific terms--- "helter-skelter." That might explain your going from, "I just sincerely think that you have certain sensibilities ill-suited for much of the modern world" to, "I don't think I've spoken for society." MCSuchandsuch, are you related to MTpromises?

  • Jan. 2, 2009, 6:50 a.m. CST

    DeeJay

    by MCSuchandsuch

    Like I previously wrote, something is gnawing at you. It's weird, actually. You keep coming back here. You want me to keep posting. I offend you so much more than the other guys that called you "DeeGay". In fact, you've started to get more and more harsh and started to play around with MY username, always the last resort of a desperate soul. I won't fall into that trap. Although MTpromises is clever (although it makes no sense as an insult and you have to stretch and ask if it's a relative of mine. What the?) I refuse to call you DeeGay, even though it's funny. In fact, I refuse to give in to you. I am not a troll, and I am not here for "lulz". You will have to find that elsewhere. What I am here for is for you to think about what is so wrong in your life that you have to keep coming back here, once at almost 2 in the morning. I'm not concerned about the fellow posters. They say stuff like that all the time, and a lot of the time admit respect for one another. It's just guys busting each other's balls. It's what a lot of heterosexual American males do. I don't take everything here literally, and I don't type everything here literally. slappy probably understands I do not want him, in real life, to drink a Clorox milkshake. It frightens me that you do seem to take things so matter of factly. You must be an advertiser's wet dream, chum. You also seem so upset that I dare to speak for society, ignoring the fact that you claim to speak for all rational thought, up to and including thoughts on my, and others, mental well-being. Physician, heal thyself. I'm not going anywhere, fellow poster. I'm a college student on winter break with a part-time job that requires him to be up this early. You can rage against the dying of the night and the posting of the talkbackers all you want, you still have to close the bathroom door and look in the mirror. What don't you like, DeeJay? Let's fix it.

  • Jan. 2, 2009, 10:09 a.m. CST

    MCSuch...

    by DeeJay

    I see. Posting to AICN before bed is worse than doing so before work on a Friday morning. Is that in the same rulebook that says someone who speaks in a movie theatre is to be fired on by a .38? The MT Promises crack was rooted in the fact that your posts are similar to that fictitious character's schemes. He once marketed some trash as "garbaaj" (not garbage), which is *precisely* what you're trying to do. Again, transparent and sophomoric. If you've bought into the ol' "create your own reality" philosophy, you should know that it isn't working for you. For now, you should probably just take your own advice regarding healing yourself, and ask why it is that you're so obsessed with getting the last word in a dialog where you can't even stick to one particular subject for much more than a half post. You're still a kid playing an adult's game, so that's understandable. Hmmmm... perhaps you can end this dialog by writing a response to yourself? In the grander scheme of things, fellow poster, as opposed to posing as an online empath, you might want to take a moment to come to grips with what you really are. After all, anyone reading this dialog can see it.

  • Jan. 2, 2009, 10:17 a.m. CST

    One Other Thing...

    by DeeJay

    ...as an update to the original story, here, Cialella's lawyer claims that he fired his gun in self-defense--- whilst breaking-up a 2-on-1 "jumping" that he personally started. Reportedly, this altercation started because the survivor and the 4 women with him were laughing at something in the movie.

  • Jan. 3, 2009, 2:27 p.m. CST

    DeeJay

    by MCSuchandsuch

    Yes, I'm a kid playing an adult's game. Presumably you're the adult who is master of this game. The game of arguing about a case no one is involved in, was not a witness or participant to, with a kid much younger than you on a website built on Star Wars and King Kong. So... who is the adult again, fellow poster? Oh, and as for anyone reading this? That's just you and me, fellow poster. The others left a long time ago, and they were the ones arguing with you and calling you DeeGay. Methinks you would not find much sympathy with them. Onwards to your one man crusade to save this website, talkative movie patrons and civilized society, then?

  • Jan. 3, 2009, 7:10 p.m. CST

    MCSuch...

    by DeeJay

    "Crusade?" Listen, Mace Windu just called. After reading your failed online mind tricks, he said he wants his robe back. For the record, the number of people posting doesn't equal the number of people reading (or who will read) a talkback... but I suspect you simply forgot about that. Whatever the case, it's good to see you using phrases such as "fellow poster." I dare say that your doing so comes across much better than your co-opting juvenile insults from posts that read as if they were written by Eric Cartman.

  • Jan. 3, 2009, 9:42 p.m. CST

    DeeJay

    by Prossor

  • Jan. 3, 2009, 9:42 p.m. CST

    MCSuch...

    by Prossor

  • Jan. 3, 2009, 9:42 p.m. CST

    DeeJay

    by Prossor

  • Jan. 3, 2009, 9:43 p.m. CST

    MCSuch...

    by Prossor

  • Jan. 4, 2009, 1:47 p.m. CST

    DeeJay

    by MCSuchandsuch

    Dude, you've got Mace Windu's digits?! Can you pass along this message from Boba Fett? He said the prequels sucked and to never speak of them again. Thanks. And congrats on recognizing the fellow poster use, fellow poster. I've actually been doing it a while now, but hey... reading comprehension is for jerks and lesbians, right? I started using it to counteract your smug condescension, fellow poster. And never once did I actually call you "DeeGay". I only typed that to contrast the civility I was showing you in comparison to others who had no qualms with calling you "DeeGay". Ironic that I'm the one you're the most hostile to. And for the record, the character of Eric Cartman is the best liked of all the characters on a classic that has been nominated for a GLAAD award, and won Image and Peabody awards. So hey, I could be doing worse. I could be standing up for the merits of Even Stevens and After The Sunset, fellow poster. Brrr. Oh, and Prossor? Touche.

  • Jan. 4, 2009, 3:15 p.m. CST

    MCSuch...

    by DeeJay

    Since you continue to miss the point (as well as the fact that I continue to ignore some of your more childish jabs), I'll explicitly tell you that my use of "fellow poster" is as far from condescension as can be. It's a simple reminder that we all have an equal right to express our views here on AICN. Comrade. While there's no hostility in any of my messages, there's plenty of it in the posts that include death wishes, violent acts, etc. I can appreciate how you'd find it much safer to try putting that label on my words, though. Also; I'm sure you're aware of the difference between a show being nominated for an award and nominating a show for specifically having an inherently dim-witted & loud-mouthed character. That difference is huge and, I'm sorry, you couldn't be doing much worse than that. What's next? Will you threaten to "kick me in the nuts?"

  • Jan. 4, 2009, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Prossor...

    by DeeJay

    ... good seeing you here, fellow poster!

  • Jan. 4, 2009, 3:53 p.m. CST

    DeeJay

    by MCSuchandsuch

    Since you like belaboring the obvious, I'll tell you that it goes without saying that we all have a right to express our opinion. It is what we have been doing, are doing, see others doing, etc etc. Yes, even those posters seemingly advocating puppy kicking and patron shooting have a right to express themselves, fellow poster. You have a right to think it's all very horrid and unpleasant, and I have a right to shrug and not care. And yes, I am quite aware of the difference between the show and the character. I just thought it was funny you had to attribute my respectful tone of you to Eric Cartman, so I ran with it, fellow poster. And no, I would never threaten to "kick you in the nuts". I wouldn't want you to cry, moan about how you don't deserve such treatment, the downfall of society, cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria, and try to get me banned, fellow poster.

  • Jan. 4, 2009, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Prossor

    by MCSuchandsuch

    Forever a blessing to see a fellow poster posting to fellows on a board devoted to fellows posting to fellow posters, fellow poster!

  • Jan. 5, 2009, 8:59 a.m. CST

    MCSuch...

    by DeeJay

    You started with, "DeeJay, I really don't think this site is for you... I just sincerely think that you have certain sensibilities ill-suited for much of the modern world, and this site included in that" and, "I suggest... you could choose to visit other sites." Now, you’re at, "...it goes without saying that we all have a right to express our opinion. It is what we have been doing, are doing, see others doing, etc etc. Yes, (different posters) have a right to express themselves, fellow poster. You have a right... and I have a right to shrug and not care." I commend you on your progress. Seriously. As an aside, you seem to have missed that I wrote that you "co-opted" words from another poster who used Cartman-like language. To wit, the reason many at AICN don’t nitpick matters such as the grammar errors of others is that we might mess around and insult someone else’s typos or "reading comprehension" while showing our own clumbsiness in this regard (hint, hint). Such things happen on the Internet quite often... although the endless dialog between the two of us is rather rare. However, since you now agree that everyone on AICN is entitled to express themselves--- and the original premise for this article/talkback has been denounced by the perpetrator's lawyer--- I propose we move on. How about it?

  • Jan. 8, 2009, 5:35 p.m. CST

    DeeJay

    by MCSuchandsuch

    I stand by my original intent. I think everyone here has a right to express their opinions. Many here expressed the opinion the shooter was a hero. You expressed the opinion that that was horrid. I expressed the opinion that your sensibilities and the more dark or crude (depending on your... sensibilities) elements found on this site don't quite seem to gel. And I suggested with no malice that there might be other sites more enjoyable to you. Pajiba seems like a good fit. Now, in this it stirred a tempest in a teacup with a slowly building, passive-aggressive war of words that both of us got sucked into. If I co-opted insults from someone like Cartman, you outright insulted with the educated aplomb of Sideshow Bob. I don't now agree that everyone can express themselves, I always agree. I can tell some douchebag to drink a Clorox milkshake and you can tut-tut and wag fingers. But at this moment, I am tired. I have been sick all week and school is starting up. Who cares about two sets of dickheads you and I will never meet, except for one brief period around the new year when two other dickheads did on a primitively designed movie-geek website? Moved on.

  • Jan. 9, 2009, 6:25 p.m. CST

    MCSuch...

    by DeeJay

    ... sorry to read you've been sick. Hope the new semester works out for you, though. We'll need to agree to disagree on the nature of this discussion (as well as the incident itself)... and maybe we can try to talk movies, next time :-)