Dec. 26, 2008, 9 p.m. CST
Dec. 26, 2008, 9:09 p.m. CST
Screw you scifi.com and your US-only policies. This is another reason why I'll never buy your DVDs. If someone has youtube links for these, I'd appreciate it...thanks!
Dec. 26, 2008, 9:37 p.m. CST
spoiler, but is there some reason gaeta should know that tigh is a cylon? either it's from #9 which wasn't posted, or it's something that I missed in the series.
Dec. 26, 2008, 9:39 p.m. CST
Thanks! That was fairly unpredictable, too. Great way to end it.
Dec. 26, 2008, 9:41 p.m. CST
It has to be in 9. The New Caprica Sharon had to have told him. Either that or this was all on purpose and THE big reveal is in 9 and the ending is misleading us. Hmmm.
Dec. 26, 2008, 9:45 p.m. CST
Man those were very good. Cannot wait for the season to start! AICN rocks!
Dec. 26, 2008, 10:06 p.m. CST
by Johnny Smith
It's pretty clear in the last episode that aired, "Revelations", that most, if not all, of the main characters knew the true nature of Tigh, Tyrol, Anders and Tory.
Dec. 26, 2008, 10:11 p.m. CST
She couldn't get into talkback but wanted to make certain everybody knew that Dead Pilot Eight is NOT Athena. Apparently there was some confusion on this point in a prior talkback.
Dec. 26, 2008, 10:12 p.m. CST
Wonder what is in episode nine. A tad formulaic thou.
Dec. 26, 2008, 10:28 p.m. CST
by Ben Addiction
It's like watching "La Jatee" - the sound is fine, but it's a series of still pictures. I guess I'll wait for scifi.com to post them.
Dec. 26, 2008, 10:53 p.m. CST
I wonder how much this individual story will have a bearing on the remainder of the series?
Dec. 26, 2008, 10:54 p.m. CST
And there's something huge in 9 that we're missing? Is the number 9 a clue? Am I a dork? (Ok, I know the answer to that one).
Dec. 26, 2008, 11 p.m. CST
It has been a while but I'm guessing that the whole "we're going to put them out an airlock" thing made the identity of the 4 cylons pretty clear to at least the bridge crew. <br><br>Kind of interesting. Wonder what is in 9. Glad I didn't have to wait for that one cliffhanger of who the killer was. Kind of sad that they are still mining the same themes of trust and identity though.
Dec. 26, 2008, 11:04 p.m. CST
I'd guess everyone in the fleet knows what with all the ship to ship radio between President Adama and Xena Warrior Princess re: airlocking the final five.
Dec. 26, 2008, 11:43 p.m. CST
by jimmy rabbitte
Great find, Herc.<p> Looking forward to the new (last) season of BSG.
Dec. 27, 2008, 12:02 a.m. CST
If so then the remaining 8 is killing off people, no matter how innocent she may look or how many lists she made.
Dec. 27, 2008, 12:07 a.m. CST
Gaeta flips out that A), that the 8 killed the rest of the crew, and B), that she deceived Gaeta on New Caprica. So, Gaeta flips out and kills her.
Dec. 27, 2008, 12:15 a.m. CST
...Gaeta seems to me to be a lot more discerning than to be taken in on a scam like that. This _really_ damages his role in the New Caprica debacle too. They spent an entire episode in the third season making sure that everyone knew that Gaeta _wasn't_ a collaborator; that he helped--as much as he could--behind the scenes to subvert the Cylons' rule over the colony. Almost makes you think that maybe The Circle _didn't_ have the wrong idea anyway...
Dec. 27, 2008, 2:53 a.m. CST
...But never so much time.<p> Seriously, I haven't even watched one of these fucking things...to all the imagination starved ASSHEADS currently writing BSG: this isn't how you write...not even close. A "major plot revelation" is never more than a chapter ahead. You unveil, then move on. You don't milk some horseshit, worn out, SF "innovation" a story, novel or season more than it needs to be. Believe me...your giant "revelation" isn't what you think it is, and was probably done by some little-known Russian back in the 1950s anyway. Or William Gibson, same difference.
Dec. 27, 2008, 3:47 a.m. CST
Dec. 27, 2008, 5:31 a.m. CST
...for the UK. The internet is a massive worldwide network yet somehow the US studios still feel the need to pretend the rest of the world doesn't exist. What a pack of fuckwits.
Dec. 27, 2008, 6:47 a.m. CST
by evil twin
Even though BSG airs at exactly the same time in the UK. I have very low hopes for this finishing well, it's been a steady downhill slide ever since the brilliance of the first series.
Dec. 27, 2008, 8:50 a.m. CST
Is your dim view the result of actual feelings on the show, or the fact you're upset the UK is getting blue BSG balls? I don't know why Internet people think that passive-aggressive crap will give them good things.
Dec. 27, 2008, 10:11 a.m. CST
...BSG had a much stronger, tighter, exciting season with the producers knowledge that the show was headed towards its conclusion.
Dec. 27, 2008, 11:57 a.m. CST
by Leafar the Lost
In these webisodes I saw Felix tongue kiss a guy and then a girl. Forget this bi-sexuality shit, Felix! Are you gay or straight?
Dec. 27, 2008, 12:01 p.m. CST
Dec. 27, 2008, 12:16 p.m. CST
I don't know. There's something about these web episodes. They seem like any moment they're about to turn into a spoof. Maybe it's the way the story has to be forced into these small stories.<br> <br> It kind of makes me think of The Ben Stiller Show when he did Die Hard... in a car. And Stiller was hiding in the trunk yelling yipppeee ka yay muther fucker.<br> <br> I mean, c'mon. People are being murdered in a 200 square foot raptor???? And no one notices?
Dec. 27, 2008, 12:26 p.m. CST
He couldn't get into talkback, but he said Felix is no chump. Webisodes aren't canon. And he's living on the ship of lights with Edward Mulhare. Apparently there was some confusion on this point in a prior talkback.
Dec. 27, 2008, 12:35 p.m. CST
Believed dead, the members of the raptor surprise Felix by suddenly returning to life to surprise him with a party for his birthday. Suffering from post traumatic feldercarb disorder, Felix kills everyone on the crew.
Dec. 27, 2008, 12:40 p.m. CST
Goren and Eames investigate the brutal murder of a raptor crew. The remaining survivor claims that a cylon killed them all without him noticing anything. But his addiction to feldermorphine and his complicity in the occupation cast doubts on his story.
Dec. 27, 2008, 2:37 p.m. CST
Number One is the Final Cylon.
Dec. 27, 2008, 3:09 p.m. CST
And he doesn't even know it. What more to throw people off than have him go throught this experience. Why would this cyclon be pawing all over him and saving him by killing everyone else in teh Raptor. Gaeta the Cylon knew what he was doing drawing up that list.
Dec. 27, 2008, 3:38 p.m. CST
It is not available. Will it return?
Dec. 27, 2008, 3:59 p.m. CST
4 of the 5 final Cylons were involved in the Resistance movement, most in major roles. Gaeta had a pretty major role...
Dec. 27, 2008, 4:30 p.m. CST
There's a pretty serious gender imbalance in the Cylons with only 3 women. I would think they would have made half and half for reproduction and even variety of forms and all but at least 4-8 is closer than 3-9. My bet is on Duala.
Dec. 27, 2008, 6:45 p.m. CST
Yeah. Duala. As in <i>Dual</i>.
Dec. 27, 2008, 7 p.m. CST
http://tinyurl.com/9poqko I'm surprised there aren't more of them.
Dec. 27, 2008, 7:11 p.m. CST
Female: <p> D'anna (3) <p> Six (6) <p> Sharon (8) <p> Tory <p> Male: Cavil (1) Leoben (2) Simon (4) Doral (5) Anders Tigh Tyrol <p> One pending indentification.
Dec. 27, 2008, 7:11 p.m. CST
I'm getting no seeds and only 1.0/sec downloads. You?
Dec. 27, 2008, 7:37 p.m. CST
should be between 14 and 20...
Dec. 27, 2008, 7:51 p.m. CST
Most people I know seem to think Gaeta is the final cylon. Having him as the focus of the webisodes supports that, so it's probably someone else. Clearly they've left Earth behind, I wonder where they're going. And you can watch it outside the US; you just need to use a little black magic on your IP address.
Dec. 27, 2008, 8:05 p.m. CST
by Hardboiled Wonderland
Sheesh, do these people have a life? They were at the official forums for seasons 2 and 3, with their organised campaign of h8ting and bitching and flaming and trolling. And they're still going? My gods people, the Dirk Benedict BSG is dead, it finished two decades ago, the cylons are not muslim terrorists who should all be blown out an airlock and the Colonials are not the mighty USA, so build a fucking bridge and get over it. And the fucknuffs commenting that the BSG writers are "unimaginative" and shit deserve to have a raptor flown up their arses. Get a fucking life.
Dec. 27, 2008, 11:27 p.m. CST
The Final Cylon is ...<p> Barak Obama, <p> riding in on a unicron.<p> .<p> .<p> .<p> There I got the "Final Cyclon" thing out of my system now. F'ing snowbound. I am going nuts.
Dec. 28, 2008, 3:36 a.m. CST
He says all those allegations concerning him and the kids were just baseless accusations ripped off from a forgotten cereal packet photo shoot from fiji in 76 and peratrated by that hippo in the tutu that pals around with the Coco Pops monkey. And anyway, in in other news, Kellogs is about to wrap up the whole "How DOES the frosting get on the flakes. WTF?" debauchle any time now -- just keep eating and...<p> STAY TUNED.
Dec. 28, 2008, 6:44 a.m. CST
Hello, move the island = dead earth.
Dec. 28, 2008, 6:54 a.m. CST
In one sense they try to portray a somewhat advanced society, Christ Cylons and Warp drives. Then they have NOTHING else that even suggests technological advancement, And when they finally develop a stealth ship they NEVER use it again.
Dec. 28, 2008, 7:51 a.m. CST
I think you fail to understand technological advancement. It's not some linear graph where everything advances at the sametime at the samerate. Just look at some of the South American civilizations: advanced math, engineering, and astronomy...yet they never developed the wheel for transportation purposes. You also have to factor in the Galactica was designed to be low-tech and most of the high-tech stuff was lost during the Cylon attacks. Just look at what survived mostly: Big rigs in space/container transports, construction vehicles/mining rigs, and cruiseships.
Dec. 28, 2008, 8 a.m. CST
I understand your plight...but I also feel the need to point out that I can't watch Doctor Who online because of similar "fuckwits" at the BBC. So chill out...or search the Internet for a way around it...
Dec. 28, 2008, 8:11 a.m. CST
When Sky1 premiered BSG they blocked content outside of the UK. It happens, get over it!
Dec. 28, 2008, 9:03 a.m. CST
Your comparison is shit. You compared science instead of technology. Technology ALWAYS dribbles down in an advanced technological society. Here is some shit from NASA "The cordless drill is one, as are good fireproof uniforms, the smoke detector and freeze-dried foods. KEVLAR, LEXAN (high impact plastic) and HEPA filtering also The MEMORY FOAM that is used in making bed mattresses". Here is a whole goddamned book Scientific American: Inventions from Outer Space: Everyday Uses for NASA Technology."There's a little bit of outer space everywhere on Earth, from the paint on the Golden Gate Bridge (originally developed by NASA to withstand high temperatures on the space shuttle launch pad) to today's high-tech sneakers (which use technology first developed for space suits) and keyboards used by disabled workers. These items, plus Dustbuster vacuums, CAT scans, and home water filters, are only some of the world's most familiar consumer products that trace their origins to NASA's space program. This fascinating book describes over 60 inventions and, in color photographs and diagrams, outlines how the space technology was developed and how it is used here on Earth." They don't even have beam weapons for fucks sake. The writers stopped thinking technology AFTER Cylons and Warp drives.
Dec. 28, 2008, 9:07 a.m. CST
"most of the high-tech stuff was lost during the Cylon attacks: So only the "welfare" technology survived but the high end stuff was destroyed? What about that top of the line pleasure ship? Even that had virtually zero advanced tech. This is almost opposite of Naruto where advanced technology like radios suddenly appeared one day.
Dec. 28, 2008, 9:09 a.m. CST
The best weapon they developed in their war on the Cylons gets ignored and never used again? Please, that would have been jumped on and applied as much as "humanly" possible in the ongoing war. It was one of the few real edges the humans had.
Dec. 28, 2008, 12:52 p.m. CST
I really hope there's some crucial twist missing out of episode 9 that straightens all this out, because it makes no sense to me right now: The first death was while trying to repair the CO2 scrubbers, right? That's the thing that allows their air to be recirculated and last longer? So, the 8 kills the guy that's going that's going to fix it so the air lasts longer, because she wants the air to last longer? (I listened about a dozen times to the pilot mumble at around the 3 min mark of episode 2 but couldn't pick out what he was hell he was saying: "corsh little detail, only the raptor clap dot CO2 scrubbers"!?! Can anyone figure out what he actually says?) Oh, and she manages to strip the pliers in the 10-20 seconds between mechanic having the idea and grabbing the pliers? Or did she anticipate someone trying to fix the scrubbers and pre-strip them? If so, why?! Why attempt to kill, first, the person who's most likely to extend the amount of air you have? And why does she spare Gaeta at all? Because she cares about Gaeta? Why? It was implied that they became romantically involved out of mutual admiration, but if she was just using him to get those names, then the seduction was just a ploy too? (Granted, I wonder, if in episode 9, it's revealed that she lied about executing the people to make him kill her, so that there'd be more air for him.) Oh, and when they were debating what to do with the first body (can't leave it because of decay, can't jettison it because of air loss) I was sure when they said "suits" that they were going to stick the body in a spacesuit and leave it in the ship. That'd make sense right? No air loss to the cabin, but vacuum sealed from the rest of the crew. (Yeah, they were working on 60% oxygen so mightn't have been sharp, but I haven't eaten in three days (stomach flu) and I still figured that much out. :-) ) Apologies if I've missed something obvious. If so, please be kind when you set me straight. :-)
Dec. 28, 2008, 1:48 p.m. CST
the stealth ship was blown up in season 2 when they attacked the resurrection ship
Dec. 28, 2008, 5:06 p.m. CST
Isn't that the point. Instead of rallying their troops to replace the stealth ship, the best weapon they had in the war, they NEVER make another one. And a lot has come and gone since s2, with quite a few chances to incorporate that particular tech into the fleet. I hate those fucking memory holes. Even Stargate gets back to discoveries eventually.
Dec. 28, 2008, 9:52 p.m. CST
Seriously. Drop your harping on your stealth ship non-point. It existed purely as a one-off: all the parts were odds and ends from around the fleet. The hardest thing for Tyrol to get his hands on were the engines - which there was only one spare set of. Every small craft engine left in the fleet is most likely getting recycled into Viper/Raptor parts.
Dec. 29, 2008, 12:06 a.m. CST
by Slappy san
Dec. 29, 2008, 8:24 a.m. CST
While BSG may have excellent written drama, they can't incorporate advanced technology for shit. If you bothered to pull your coprophagic head out your ass maybe you would understand that. The show is fucking scifi not soap. scifi uses technology as a basis for its stories. Scifi is sadly lacking in the series as a whole. Yes some parts manage to get incorporated as plot devices, but the rest is tossed aside for "gritty" dramatic posing.
Dec. 29, 2008, 10:06 a.m. CST
I actually do not think Jane Espenson is a good BSG writer, she was good on Buffy and Angel but not here, it was her depressing run during series 3 that make me feel the show was declining, these webisodes do nothing to alter that opinion.
Dec. 29, 2008, 11:34 a.m. CST
Dec. 29, 2008, 11:45 a.m. CST
Fuck off. Most series are so weakly written that they depend on magical technology as a crutch so you will go WOW! and forget the mindless drivel that you're watching. BSG is the best sci-fi series ever for getting past that convention - the series works because of the lack of technobabble. ANYBODY can get in on the series and not feel stupid because they don't understand every 7th word. Adama & Co. are regular people like you and me who have been put into an extraordinary situation - with some cool background tech that we're never beat over the head with.
Dec. 29, 2008, 11:49 a.m. CST
EvilWizardGlick's next point will be technology....whine... technology... blah blah...technology... boo-hoo. If he wants silly sci-fi tech, he should watch Doctor Who - lots of magic tech in that shite. Or if he doesn't want to slum it, catch the last few episodes of Stargate Atlantis - I'm feeling Stargare Universe is gonna be shite.
Dec. 29, 2008, 12:26 p.m. CST
D'anna said the final cylon was not in the fleet. Assuming we can take her at her word, that restricts the possibilities considerably. My prediction: It'll be Zach Adama. I don't know how but it would cause the maximum level of drama from the maximum number of characters: Adama, Apolla, and Starbuck.
Dec. 29, 2008, 1:57 p.m. CST
Anyone notice the actor to portray Zak Adama is listed as playing in the last four eps of season 4? Perhaps this is nothing, and imdb mistake or a trick of some sort....but it is strange.
Dec. 29, 2008, 3 p.m. CST
Amazon pulled them
Dec. 29, 2008, 3:41 p.m. CST
Dec. 29, 2008, 3:52 p.m. CST
it's a commonly held rule of thumb that 'good sci-fi' has only ONE impossible thing. BSG has FTL, Cylons and artificial gravity, so they are technologically 'sci-fi' enough for me, thanks.
Dec. 29, 2008, 4:10 p.m. CST
by The Eskimo
Dec. 29, 2008, 6:47 p.m. CST
Beam Weapons aren't necessarily the best option for the Vipers. From what can be gleaned from the show, they use some manner of coil-gun setup for the projectiles, which means those shells are accelerated to extremely fast velocities. The kinetic and explosive energy of a solid projectile can be achievement much more easily and energy efficiently then some manner of beam weapon. Plus we can assume it's harder to heavily armor something then it is to give it refractive coatings that would diffuse any potential energy weapon attack.
Jan. 3, 2009, 4:13 a.m. CST
D'Anna, the only person who has seen the final cylon, specifically said that the final cylon wasn't among the crew.
Jan. 3, 2009, 4:15 a.m. CST
But we know that Zach Adama is dead, which eliminates him from the list since these final cylons lacked the ability to resurrect.
Jan. 3, 2009, 8:20 p.m. CST
They can't ressurect? Really? ARE YOU SURE? Mwa Ha HA!
Jan. 3, 2009, 8:21 p.m. CST
resurrect.Mwa Ha Ha!