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Christmas Eve's INTERNATIONAL EYE CANDY Column: Miike, IMAGO MORTIS, MUTANTS and other Holiday fares!

Published at:  Dec 24, 2008 8:51:11 PM CST

International Eye Candy
December 24th, 2008

Yes, boys and girls, it's Christmas Eve and I'm spending my evening writing another edition of the ol' International Eye Candy. And why? Because I love you all, that's why, and dammit I'm gonna give you the best present I can. And you know what? BLACK DYNAMITE loves you all, too, and offers you all this charming holiday greeting. I'd caution that it's not work safe but that kind of goes without saying with a cat as virile as BLACK DYNAMITE and nobody in their right mind is at work right now anyway.

One other thing before we get on with the Eye Candy ... Last time out I had a few requests for a year end wrap up and I have obliged. I started out aiming for a Top Ten list but couldn't bear to whittle it down below twenty five and then promptly realized I'd missed one that probably would've made the Top Ten had I done it that way and so I added it in and ended up with the 2008 list of Films What Todd Likes. Peruse, enjoy and take a minute to tell me what an asshole I am for including Film A while overlooking the obviously superior Film B. Because if you can't swear at a Best Of list then what can you swear at, really?

But enough of that! What lies within this edition of the International Eye Candy? Takashi Miike's swarm of skinheads! Stunning Czech noir! A complete short film from the writer of Del Toro's DEVIL'S BACKBONE! French spies! MEMENTO done Bollywood style! And more, more, more! It's a jam packed column this week and here it comes!



We begin in Italy, sort of, with the first trailer for Stefano Bessoni's IMAGO MORTIS, the story of a university student who stumbles across a bizarre death cult within the school faculty. I say this is sort of Italian because while Bessoni is very much Italian and this features a lot of Italian backing the primary producers are the outfit behind PAN'S LABYRINTH and THE ORPHANAGE, an early draft of the script was penned by DUST DEVIL director Richard Stanley, and the final script came from Luis Berdejo - the writer of hit Spanish zombie picture [REC] who is currently wrapping up post on his own directorial debut, THE NEW DAUGHTER, starring Kevin Costner. Yep, safe to say this one's got a sterling pedigree.

Find the IMAGO MORTIS trailer here



From Italy, kind of, we head to France and David Morley's MUTANTS. It's a zombie picture and while I'm as burned out on the whole zombie thing as the next guy I'm very excited about this for a couple reasons. Reason number one is Morley's were-beast short MORSURE, which I programmed at a few festivals last year and absolutely kicks ass. This guy has talent to burn and a gift for finding new angles to make familiar material fresh again. Reason number two is the angle Morley's taking with the zombie mythos. He's stripped the action down to two primary characters - lovers, no less - and made the infection progress slooooooowly, forcing his heroine to watch her lover slowly change into a hostile force, unable to do anything to stop it. Clever boy, that Morley, and he's got a very enticing teaser for the film now available.

Click here for the MUTANTS teaser



So, in MACHINE GIRL director Noboru Iguchi attached a giant gun to the stump of a teenaged girl's severed arm. In his previous film - SUKEBAN BOY - he hid guns in breasts and the stumps of severed legs. So the question is, where's he gonna put the gun in HAJIRAI MACHINE GIRL? Yep, it's a sequel, this one an ultra low budget short film shot as a bonus feature for the Japanese DVD release of the first MACHINE GIRL and I don't think I'm going to say any more than that.

Click here for the HAJIRAI MACHINE GIRL trailer



Bollywood has a long, well documented history of unauthorized remakes of Hollywood films and it appears we can add MEMENTO to the list of films receiving the Bollywood treatment. Bollywood star Aamir Khan buffed up big time to take the lead in GHAJINI, a film based on an earlier Tamil film which was itself based on MEMENTO so while it may not be a shot for shot version as several of these things have been there are certainly some obvious shared elements. But beyond the MEMENTO thing this is more notable to me because in the trailer, at least, Khan comes across as on of the first truly believably Bollywood action heroes I've ever seen. This thing is intense and violent and Khan looks to be causing some pain when he takes people down. My only unanswered question: does he sing?

Find the GHAJINI trailer here



Okay, Guillermo Del Toro fans, here's the one you've been waiting for. A great many people still consider THE DEVIL'S BACKBONE and a big part of why is writer Antonio Trashorras. Well Trashorras isn't just a writer, he directs as well, and we've got a brand new short film from him. Shot as a tribute to classic giallos the film has a ridiculously long Spanish title - as befits a giallo - but goes by the much shorter English title of BREED. The less you know going in, the better so I'll simply put the NSFW warning on it - it's got boy parts - and leave it at that.

< A HREF=http://twitchfilm.net/site/view/antonio-trashorras-goes-giallo-with-breed/>Watch BREED here



Indonesian martial arts film MERANTAU is one that has appeared in this space before thanks to our excitement over the chance to see rarely featured fight discipline silat put up on the big screen. That it looks to be remarkably well put together doesn't hurt, either. Still deep into production the film doesn't have a proper trailer yet but director Gareth Evans has been releasing regular behind the scenes reels and this week offered up a detailed look at the creation of the film's final fight sequence. They're keeping the money shots close to the vest but there's plenty of good stuff to find in there.

Check all the MERANTAU behind the scenes reels here



The first part of John Woo's two film war epic RED CLIFF dominated the box office all across Asia and with the release of Part Two coming up soon a variety of trailers are now sweeping the continent. One trailer could never be enough to contain the biggest film ever made in Chinese history so we've gathered 'em all together in one place.

All the RED CLIFF 2 trailers here



Want an Asian epic of an entirely different sort? How about some fresh footage from the Pang Brothers' STORM WARRIORS, the big budget digital backlot sequel to hit martial arts fantasy STORM RIDERS. The film is being shot entirely in front of green screen a la SIN CITY or 300 and while it's still more than a year from release that isn't stopping the producers from teasing with the first bits of footage. We had the first teaser last time around and now we follow that with a large scale battle sequence.

Check the STORM WARRIORS footage here



It aint just Asia making martial arts films these days. The French are in on the act, too, and coming soon is BANLIEUE 13: ULTIMATUM, the sequel to the hugely successful original film - available here as DISTRICT B13 - that blended kung fu with parkour. The original stars are back and the first teaser proves they know enough to follow the first rule for successful sequels: keep everything that made the original great but make it bigger.

Find the B13: ULTIMATUM teaser here



How's about a bit of animation? If the casting of Vincent Gallo and Juliette Lewis isn't enough to tip you off to the fact that upcoming Swedish feature METROPIA aint your standard kiddy fare then perhaps the first footage - released as part of a Swedish news report on the film - will be. This is truly striking stuff made all the moreso by how dark and Kafka-esque it looks to be. A proper trailer will come soon but these scenes are more than enough to raise interest.

Find the METROPIA footage here



How's about another bit of animation? This one's from the more traditional animation hotbed of Japan and while Mizuho Nishikubo may be the actual director of upcoming feature MIYAMOTO MUSASHI - a bio-pic about the life of the legendary swordsman - but the real draw comes in the form of writer Mamoru Oshii. Yep, that would be GHOST IN THE SHELL director Mamoru Oshii and when he writes for other people films like JIN ROH: THE WOLF BRIGADE and BLOOD: THE LAST VAMPIRE tend to result. This immediately ranks as one of the top animated features of 2009.

Find the MIYAMOTO MUSASHI trailer here



Want something a little longer than a trailer? Ah, heck, we're in a giving mood and so here comes our second complete short film of the column. Like BREED this one is again from Spain and boasts a favored writer. The writer in this case is TIMECRIMES director Nacho Vigalondo, the film EL ENCARGANDO or THE ONE IN CHARGE - the story of a bullied schoolboy and what happens when his teacher leaves him temporarily in charge of the classroom.

Watch EL ENCARGANDO here



Any fans of Kaz Kiriya's CASSHERN out there? Kiriya's debut film was a hugely divisive one - one that I am very much on the positive side for, believing that it immediately establish Kiriya as one of the world's most distinctive visual talents. And now Kaz is back with his new medieval fantasy GOEMON. Built around a legendary robber-hero - sort of a Japanese Robin Hood - the film is, like CASSHERN, shot largely on green screen and hugely augmented with CGI work and, also like CASSHERN, the first proper teaser looks fantastic. Yum.

Check the GOEMON trailer here



And now for something completely different ... Norwegian comedy-drama NORD comes from the writer of last year's Norwegian Oscar submission GONE WITH THE WOMAN so expectations are running high. And if the trailer is any indication those expectations are about to be met. The film is a sort of far north road movie, it's hero a washed out former athlete on the rebound from a mental breakdown riding his snowmobile across remote regions with only a vat of moonshine to keep him company while on his way to meet the daughter he never knew he had. I'm a total sucker for these sorts of off-beat road movies and this looks like a good one.

Check out the NORD trailer here



Okay, I'm going to be honest here and say right up front that there's no way that this one would have made the list if not for the fact that it's directed by Tak Sakaguchi. But it IS directed by Sakaguchi and I just find something charming about the star of VERSUS and DEATH TRANCE and harbor a weak spot for his films. YOROI: THE SAMURAI ZOMBIE is Sakaguchi's second directorial effort and boasts VERSUS director Ryuhei Kitamura as a producer. It also has, surprisingly enough, a samurai zombie and lots of blood.

Check the YOROI trailer here



And now for something that I like because it looks good - nay, fantastic - rather than because of who made it. OSS 117: RIO NE REPOND PLUS is the second installment in the current revival of the 1960s French spy films of the same name, with comedian Jean Dujardin taking the lead. The first of these films absolutely blew my mind - production design is so spot on that it could easily be a lost film from the era it is set in and Dujardin is hysterical in the lead - and based on the extended promo for this one that I caught at the American Film Market outing number two is going to be every bit as strong. Dujardin is brilliant in these, the writing is sharp, production values stunning. The first entry is available on DVD across North America and I can't recommend it highly enough.

Check the OSS 117 teaser here



Czech film may not get a lot of play here in these parts but the industry there is a strong one and every now and then they turn out something that just refuses be ignored, something like Julius Sevcik's NORMAL. If you've got a hankering for noir, this one's going to scratch that particular itch with it's story of a depression-era lawyer assigned to defend a vicious serial killer. This thing just looks to get everything right ...

Check the NORMAL trailer here



Okay, Takashi Miike fans, here we go. Miike's CROWS ZERO was a huge hit in Japan - where it became the maverick's first ever number one hit - and the sequel hits next year. Miike and high school violence, it's got a certain ring to it don't you think? In the lead up to production the film put out a casting call looking for teens willing to go skin head and, yep, the swarm of skins has made it into the first proper teaser ...

Check the CROWS ZERO TWO teaser here



We're nearing the end now and we hand the penultimate spot in this edition of International Eye Candy to Carlos Cuaron's Sundance flick RUDO Y CURSI. Yep, Carlos is the brother of CHILDREN OF MEN director Alfonso Cuaron - Alfonso's son is also a director - and the writer of Alfonso's breakout hit Y TU MAMA TAMBIEN. For this one he reunites Y TU MAMA's young stars Gael Garcia Bernal and Diego Luna - both of them now HUGE stars thoughout the Spanish speaking world - in a story of feuding brothers from rural Mexico who dream of stardom via soccer and song. Yes, Bernal sings in this. And, yes, he wears a sparkly cowboy outfit while doing so. Silly? You betcha.

Check out the RUDO Y CURSI trailer and music video here



How to finish an edition of International Eye Candy as chock full o goodness as this one has been? How about with something you might actually have a chance of seeing on the big screen soon? Yep, India's got this global releasing thing down pat and they'll be rolling out upcoming kung fu-musical-comedy CHANDNI CHOWK TO CHINA on screens in major cities worldwide starting January 16th. We've written about this one before, struck by the genius of whoever it is that realized Bollywood musicals and classic Shaw Brothers kung fu could be long lost cousins and then had the good sense to fuse them into a single film while casting the legendary Gordon Liu as the lead villain, and it makes the list again thanks to some new music promos that show off a good amount of new footage. I'm there opening night.

Check out all of the CHANDNI CHOWK promos here



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    Readers Talkback

  • Dec 24, 2008 9:00:57 PM CST

    MERRY CHRISTMAS

    by nolan bautista

    to all Harry and AICN and all talkbackers..i love you all..you are all family..

    Reply to Talkback

  • Dec 24, 2008 9:04:06 PM CST

    i meant ..

    by nolan bautista

    ..to all of Harry..every lovable part of him

    Reply to Talkback

  • Dec 24, 2008 9:15:08 PM CST

    Miike and High School sounds quite bad.

    by worldofwarcraft

    Why should that seem like a bad match to me?

    Reply to Talkback

  • Dec 24, 2008 9:25:15 PM CST

    My Christmas Wish?

    by worldofwarcraft

    Supernatural gets picked up by HBO somehow, allowing for darker and more mature content (not much darker, though, nothing gratuitous). Then, occassionaly a guest director every now and then. Miike does a gory episode, later on Romero does a Winchesters vs Zombies, then Argento has Dean haunted by an Italian exchange student he had a one night stand with... Also for Xmas, a green high powered laser beam.

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  • Dec 24, 2008 9:26:41 PM CST

    Miike On Christmas Eve

    by psychedelic

    What more could a subversive surreal horror insanity nut ask for? It makes me want to watch Miike all night long. Merry Christmas!

    Reply to Talkback

  • Dec 24, 2008 9:50:19 PM CST

    I want to see Normal

    by chittychittygangbang

    Also Red Cliff one and two of course.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Dec 24, 2008 9:52:45 PM CST

    Supernatural on HBO

    by chittychittygangbang

    sounds good to me.
    I wish the would have brought Nightstalker back on HBO instead of ABC.
    That shit was very disappointing...
    Except when they CGI'd the orginal Nightstalker into an office scene. That was cool.

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  • Dec 24, 2008 10:39:43 PM CST

    Merry Christmas, you fellow AICN frakkers...

    by pennsy

    May you get every present you want, and every dream you seek happen. Yes, saccharine this is, so sue me :)

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  • Dec 25, 2008 12:00:49 AM CST

    I'm at work

    by xiphos_2

    but its also morning here. The right mind thing? Well that might be accurate.

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  • Dec 25, 2008 12:20:48 AM CST

    Supernatural on HBO?

    by xiphos_2

    I'd be down with that because then all the hot broads that guess star on the show could possibly get nekkid.

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  • Dec 25, 2008 1:02:08 AM CST

    wow that giallo short was creepy

    by clockworker

    he really captured that Italian essence as well. very well done. oh and by the way Miike fucking rocks, love his stuff.

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  • Dec 25, 2008 12:11:49 PM CST

    Merry Christmas, ya filthy animals!!

    by buffywrestling

    I have a hang over that would kill my dog. Never again will I particapate in the folly of "Jello shots for Jebus".

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  • Dec 25, 2008 1:22:57 PM CST

    This TB is proof that's it a major holiday

    by xiphos_2

    Since nobody but me is posting.

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  • Dec 25, 2008 1:26:47 PM CST

    Filthy?

    by xiphos_2

    I done took my weekly bath lastest Sunday.Jello shots go down smooth and easy but the price you pay the next day is steep. I blame Bill Cosby for that.

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  • Dec 25, 2008 1:28:54 PM CST

    C'mon somebody has to be working

    by xiphos_2

    or sick of the enforced family stuff.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Dec 25, 2008 1:38:42 PM CST

    A Samurai Zombie?

    by xiphos_2

    That's interesting.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Dec 25, 2008 1:45:34 PM CST

    A snowmobile road movie?

    by xiphos_2

    It should play well in Wisconsin and Michigan. Waht kind of former athlete is the main character? Since it's a viking land film I'm thinking it's Hockey, Footie or Curling?

    Reply to Talkback

  • Dec 25, 2008 1:49:06 PM CST

    Merantau

    by xiphos_2

    I can't wait to see this, Silat on the big screen will look great.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Dec 25, 2008 1:54:40 PM CST

    Ghajini

    by xiphos_2

    Sounds cool. I'm not all that into most Bollywood musical productions, but this sounds like it has potential.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Dec 25, 2008 1:58:17 PM CST

    now this TB

    by xiphos_2

    Is on the list top ten list.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Dec 25, 2008 2:50:35 PM CST

    A question about Mutants

    by xiphos_2

    If the progression of mutattion is slow what stops the heroine from just shipping over her lover before full zombifacation sets in? I mean besides the fact that the movie would be like 15 minutes long?Follow up question. If the progression is slow does that mean there's no world wide zombie epidemic like in Romeros and others zombie movies? The speed of the infectionm is what overwhelmed the world in things like 28 weeks later. A slow developing infection means nations could possibly stay ahead of the infection/transformation rate.

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  • Dec 25, 2008 4:32:26 PM CST

    Aids is a slow working infection...

    by worldofwarcraft

    ...yet we can't seem to wipe that out. Granted, we don't go blasting AIDS patients with double barreled shotguns, but whatever. (I'm working today, too, Xiph. Bout to watch The Orphanage in a minute.)

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  • Dec 25, 2008 5:28:31 PM CST

    worldofwarcraft

    by xiphos_2

    True AIDS isn't getting wiped out, but it isn't the world killer it was advertised as either. The main fear button the notion of zombies hits, besides getting eaten alive, is the rapid destruction of civilization. If the infection/transformation is as slow as Twitch infered it to be, how is that fearful? That's my question.Enjoy the Orphanage, I have not seen it as of yet.

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  • Dec 25, 2008 8:53:01 PM CST

    Best Christmas Eve present

    by kungfuhustler84

  • Dec 26, 2008 10:52:04 AM CST

    Still nobody?

    by xiphos_2

    I can't imagine everyone is doing something?

    Reply to Talkback

  • Dec 26, 2008 10:53:35 AM CST

    I guess i'll post a bit

    by xiphos_2

    to up the hit count.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Dec 26, 2008 10:55:02 AM CST

    The To China poster

    by xiphos_2

    Has a hot broad on it. Snikes!

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  • Dec 26, 2008 11:14:52 AM CST

    The Watchmen TB is in full Nerd rage

    by xiphos_2

    and added to that is a layer of loser lawyers all trying to out lawyer each other. Fucking pathetic.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Dec 26, 2008 4:12:31 PM CST

    Sad that Watchmen talkbacks have died...

    by worldofwarcraft

    ... or if not actually 'dead', they've certainly run out of steam. The lawyer stuff is such silliness. And now we might not even get to see the actual movie antime soon. And I honestly don't know if that's a good or bad thing. (And my copy of The Orphanage wouldn't play on my iBook. The New Line opening would play, and then it would just go back to the DVD opening screen with 'The Orphanage' in big letters. What a drag. Coming up now: Inside Man.)

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  • Dec 26, 2008 11:39:12 PM CST

    So I went crazy the day after Christmas

    by kungfuhustler84

    here are all the DVDs I got for Christmas:Batman: The Complete Animated Series (FUCK YES! BEST NON-COMIC VERSION OF BATMAN EVER!!!)The Nightmare Before Christmas Collector's Edition (still can't believe I never owned any version of this until now)Indiana Jones Trilogy (again, I have yet to own this on DVD until now. no clue why)Hedwig and the Angry Inch (my sister watched this and loved it almost as much as I did the first time seeing it)Speed RacerHellboy IITMNT (a random gift for what turned out to be a pretty fun little turtles movie with some surprisingly good action)Brazil 3-Disc Criterion Collection (YAY!)and finally...Devils on the Doorstep (HUZZAH!!)Also I got some money from various relatives. Of course, I have already blown most of it on yet more DVDs. I managed to get most of them for less than ten dollars each though which was pretty neat. I picked up:Road Warrior (does anyone know if there's a special edition of this movie anywhere? The one I got is bare bones. Still, so happy to finally own the action classic.)Tim Burton's Sleepy HollowFargoUnbreakable (the box said it had two collectible Alex Ross pictures of the two main characters in the package, but there's nothing there but the DVDs. I remember seeing them in the box long ago when I rented it. Damn, shoulda just taken them then. They were so cool looking!)Die Hard (I wanted to watch it Christmas Day, but a day late is close enough)A collection of the Max Fleischer Superman cartoons (brilliant and beautiful)Platoon Special Editionand finally, The Treasure of Sierra Madre. After seeing this for the first time a few days ago, I had to own it. Cinematic bliss with one of Bogart's best, most out there roles. Are there any other movies where he's not the typical suave guy that never loses his cool besides this one?

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  • Dec 27, 2008 1:21:15 AM CST

    Miyamoto Musashi

    by kungfuhustler84

    while Mifune IS Musashi in my mind (no one coule ever do it better I think) a more contemporary, stylized version of the guy's story would be cool.

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  • Dec 27, 2008 1:25:46 AM CST

    I cab't believe it!

    by kungfuhustler84

    This Batman Animated Series has actually gotten BETTER now that I'm older. I'm noticing the old 20s-40s serial style a lot more. The artistic design (architecture, cars, characters) is perfect, and the action is actually comprehensible, well paced, and fun to watch (fuck that Dark Knight shaky cam noise). Plus, the voice acting is pretty much perfect, especially all the villains (Luke Skywalker as the Joker, very fun). Boy, it's good to hear Kevin Conroy as the Batman again. There is no other in my mind.

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  • Dec 27, 2008 1:28:10 AM CST

    Red Cliff

    by kungfuhustler84

    So anyone want to guess the chances that we actually see a release of the two films in their original form stateside? I would buy it, even the most-specialest of special editions. No Blu Ray though, thanks.Anybody? Should we start a petition? I would hate to see another great foreign film butchered on its way to the states.

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  • Dec 27, 2008 1:30:32 AM CST

    A lot of the stuff above doesn't look that interesting

    by kungfuhustler84

    Metropia looks interesting, but that news clip thing was more boring than anything else, mostly because I can't speak dirty, dirty Swede.

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  • Dec 27, 2008 11:09:51 PM CST

    Watching Coffy

    by kungfuhustler84

    damn! One of the best blaxploitation films ever made. Pam Grier was smokin.

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  • Dec 27, 2008 11:34:41 PM CST

    Tokyo Gore Police is on that one site

    by kungfuhustler84

    the Japanese horror movie site?I'm defnitely going to have to make time to check that one out pretty soon.

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  • Dec 27, 2008 11:35:40 PM CST

    I!

    by kungfuhustler84

  • Dec 27, 2008 11:35:51 PM CST

    MUST!

    by kungfuhustler84

  • Dec 27, 2008 11:36:06 PM CST

    KEEP!

    by kungfuhustler84

  • Dec 27, 2008 11:36:18 PM CST

    THIS!

    by kungfuhustler84

  • Dec 27, 2008 11:36:33 PM CST

    TALKBACK!

    by kungfuhustler84

  • Dec 27, 2008 11:36:50 PM CST

    ALIIIIIIVE!

    by kungfuhustler84

  • Dec 27, 2008 11:37:54 PM CST

    I actually want to see the Spirit

    by kungfuhustler84

    It's not like I was ever expecting Oscar bait anyway.

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  • Dec 27, 2008 11:39:00 PM CST

    And why the fuck do all the reviewers

    by kungfuhustler84

    talk about the same movies all the time? Their opinions are always pretty much the same. There's never any surprises, and they always discuss the same movie a hundred times over.Boring.

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  • Dec 27, 2008 11:39:48 PM CST

    Where the hell is everybody?

    by kungfuhustler84

    Christmas is over fools!

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  • Dec 28, 2008 12:49:53 AM CST

    I was going to post the same questions as Kungfu

    by xiphos_2

    but he beat me to it and now it seems like he's left the building. Hustler, say hi to the King for me.

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  • Dec 28, 2008 12:51:14 AM CST

    let's see if I can't get this thing into the top 10

    by xiphos_2

    I don't think it will take all that much.

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  • Dec 28, 2008 12:53:03 AM CST

    oh there it is

    by xiphos_2

    I should have looked at the list before I opened my pie hole. Hustler already got it up into the top 10. Good work Mr. Fu.

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  • Dec 28, 2008 12:57:38 AM CST

    About The Watchmen

    by xiphos_2

    I believe some uber funny book loving nerd is going to have a coranary over this whole thing. I guess they will have to cut a hole in a wall to get his six hundred pound, cheeto incrusted fat ass out of the basement and to the hospital.Yeah I went there about fat geeks, I don't usually, because I like the funny books myself but the nerd rage over this is laughable.

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  • Dec 28, 2008 2:34:14 AM CST

    GOEMON looks awesome as fuck!

    by the milf lover

    and if it's anything like CASSHERN, it will be awesome as fuck! Still have to watch the rest of the trailers, but just from the descriptions, not much of interest to me...
    oh and Tokyo Gore Police is up? I know what I'm watching tomorrow! I'd watch it now but it's 3:30am... damn!

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  • Dec 28, 2008 4:49:20 PM CST

    Damn!

    by kungfuhustler84

    It's off the top ten again.

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  • Dec 28, 2008 5:10:53 PM CST

    WTF Harry

    by kungfuhustler84

    You don't post anything for what seems like weeks and then all of a sudden you have like seven articles?

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  • Dec 28, 2008 5:11:39 PM CST

    Define Irony:

    by kungfuhustler84

    Harry complains about pacing in The Spirit when he can't get his own pacing down at all. Fucking lame.

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  • Dec 28, 2008 5:39:32 PM CST

    Holy shit, I'm watching Platoon

    by kungfuhustler84

    what a great cast! they don't make em like this anymore. Of course, having recently watched Tropic Thunder, I'm getting even more out of this movie than before.

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  • Dec 28, 2008 10:11:28 PM CST

    Since this TB is dead

    by xiphos_2

    I'm going to turn it into my personal sports talk. Any objections?

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  • Dec 28, 2008 10:12:34 PM CST

    So no objections?

    by xiphos_2

    Motion carries on the stregth of one vote mine.

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  • Dec 28, 2008 10:31:08 PM CST

    Way to fail Dallas!

    by xiphos_2

    Ha Ha Ha, the cowgirls live up to thier name. Can we stop with the Tony Romo lovefest? He isn't that good of a QB.

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  • Dec 28, 2008 11:02:30 PM CST

    Well, Mr. Pillow, how's about them Jets?

    by xiphos_2

    The one good thing that you couldpossible say about the Jets collapse is that it wasn't as bad as the Mets.

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  • Dec 28, 2008 11:26:14 PM CST

    Maybe we should make Vern's EXPENDABLES

    by kungfuhustler84

    the new C of C home.Whadya think?

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  • Dec 29, 2008 12:40:02 AM CST

    I just watched Tokyo Gore Police...

    by the milf lover

    and my god, what a messy, fucked up movie. It is wayyyy over the top insanity that makes little sense (especially the last act with the police force going nuts is just WTF???), which is evidently what they were going for. They get major kudos for creativity, but that's about it. Bonus point for the fetish stump girl on swords that's an actual girl with no arms or legs and not some special effects prop (she has to be real, no way they'd have pulled that off with their shitty fx). And the music is just killer! So definitely something that has to be seen for the crazy factor, but not exactly an endorsement of it as any kind of quality. If you enjoyed Machine Girl, which is pretty tame in comparison, then you'll likely enjoy this as well.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 12:56:44 AM CST

    and to stay on the sports topic (sort of)

    by the milf lover

    a friend of mine told me that a few nights ago, the Philadelphia Flyers goalie got sick and puked all over himself during the game, vomit was flowing from his mask and all over his jersey. Damn I wish I could see it, I tried finding a video of it but no luck.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 8:58:48 AM CST

    Back to work

    by hawaiian organ donor

    At least it's another short week. 3 days on, 4 days off.OK everyone, I know you're curious about what I watched over the holidays so here goes.Eagle Eye - interesting start, bad finish. They really didn't know how to end this one properly. Some great build up with a shockingly bad payoff.Swing Vote - improbable as hell but cute and funny as hell. Costner's best performance in years and you will never see a pro-life ad that hysterical in real life. Just a sweet as hell film.Burn After Reading - had a blast with this one. Much better than I expected. Quirky turned up to eleven. The performances were aces and I don't know how anyone can't love Clooney as a paranoid sex addict that's into wood flooring. This one will probably sneak onto my best of list.The Panthers damn near gave me a stroke yesterday. But a number two seed and one playoff game at home should be enough to fire them up.The complete and utter meltdown of the Cowboys, Broncos and Jets pales in comparison to what the Bucs pulled off. They went from being the darlings of the NFC to missing the playoffs completely.Regarding the stuff from Twitch, Storm Warriors looks good. I'll be checking out Yoroi because you simply can't go wrong with zombie samurai. And OSS 17 is now one of my most highly anticipated movies of 2009. The first movie was brilliant. Chandni Chowk To China will probably go down well with a bottle of rum.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 9:09:49 AM CST

    hey everyone!

    by jonah echo

    back from obscurity. how was everyone's christmas?

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  • Dec 29, 2008 9:18:48 AM CST

    Hey Jonah

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Christmas was good. Got plenty of cigars which was really the only thing I wanted. Well, that and The Good The Bad The Weird which was an early present. I'm surprised it didn't make Harry's list. That and Speed Racer.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 10:16:29 AM CST

    just saw burn after reading

    by jonah echo

    and thought same as HOD. Surprisingly good, after hearing so much mediocre about it. I will say, the thing in the back of my mind that kept the hope was the Hustler saying it was great, and he was right.

    Also saw Frost/Nixon which was surprisingly very good, and it grows in my estimation, despite liking few of Howard's previous efforts.

    Saw Mike Leigh's Happy Go-Lucky and thought it was also just a great movie, worthy of a top ten.

    Man On Wire was also exceptional.

    Wendy and Lucy is also a great little indie film, that was far better than I expected.

    Tonight is the Wrestler. Tomorrow is Benjamin Button at the Senator.

    Surprisingly, one of the films I saw over the break was Ghadjini, the bollywood Memento. It's interesting, to say the least. More on that one later.

    Got bluray of Speed Racer for christmas and it's gorgeous looking. Also got a copy of The Visitor. And the PS3 version of Bio Shock. Anyone play this? It's very cinematic. Seriously, it would make a terrific movie.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 10:39:01 AM CST

    There's a new Twitch

    by franklin t marmoset

    But now I am tired from all that lifting of the old Twitch back into the Top Ten.Also, I am pretty much rambled out. I emptied all the stupid crap out of my head over in old Twitch.I miss you, old Twitch.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 10:43:35 AM CST

    Old Twitch - Selected highlights:

    by franklin t marmoset

    Hancock: It was like they took the first half of one film (Hancock A) and awkwardly bolted it to the second half of another film (Hancock B). Neither Hancock A nor Hancock B were particularly bad, but I did spend all of the Hancock B section of the film annoyed because I was never going to know how Hancock A ended.Mummy 3: Really, that was a terrible, terrible film. I did enjoy the cameo by the Yeti from Monsters, Inc., but it was a pretty poor showing not getting John Ratzenberger back to do the voice again.Wall E: Delightful.Favourite film of the summer: Hellboy II.Hellboy II musing: Surely that thing would make mincemeat out of Selma's tiny little pooter.Chris Klein: Shit.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 10:49:28 AM CST

    Jonah

    by gimmemyp'wrd!

    I saw Ghajini last night too...wanted to get your two cents. I will say that the female lead in the film is what makes it whole. Heart-breaking....

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  • Dec 29, 2008 10:51:24 AM CST

    Congradulations to teh Dee-troit Lions

    by xiphos_2

    Going 0-16 in the boring parity years is quite an accomplishment.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 10:54:28 AM CST

    What can I say, Frankie

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I agree Hancock was two films but as a whole I enjoyed it. Then again, I'm a Will Smith apologist so he has to commit Wild Wild West offenses to bother me.And I still don't understand what people were expecting from The Mummy. Sure it was a mess but it was a fun romp of a mess. Why do people forgive silliness in a serious movie like TDK but slam silliness in a silly movie like The Mummy? It was 90 minutes of nonsense that delivered a few laughs, some thrills and Yetis kicking people.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 11:11:23 AM CST

    It the end of the football season bloodletting

    by xiphos_2

    Time for coaches and GMs to get thier resumes in order.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 11:16:38 AM CST

    I saw Hancock yesterday

    by xiphos_2

    It was movie that had a great idea that didn't pan out but I had some fun with it.I would like to give special mention to one Mr. Paul W.S. Anderson for his magnum opus Death Race. Probably one of the best times I've had watching a movie in a long while. That movie was just fun. It wasn't logical or even particularly well made but it was great fun.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 11:22:26 AM CST

    since everbody has disappeared again

    by xiphos_2

    I'm going to tool on the Dallas Cowboys some more. Thanks AICN for providing me with my personal sports talk blog. Fucking ESPN neeeds to stop blowing Tony Romo, he is not that good of a QB and wilts like a hot house flower in december. The Dallas cowboys are so overated it's not even funny.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 11:24:51 AM CST

    To bad Lost Jarv is on holiday

    by xiphos_2

    he would go bat shit crazy on that Lezbo vampire movie since its a Welsh production.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 11:27:13 AM CST

    Death Race

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I have the unrated version at home and will probably put it in over New Years. I'm not looking for anything other than 90 minutes of entertainment.Been at work for almost 5 hours now and I've done nothing but read the NFL playoff predictions.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 11:31:02 AM CST

    The Cowboys are like the Yankees

    by hawaiian organ donor

    They have no chemistry and choke when it matters. Watching them and the Bucs implode has been a pure joy.The league needs to change the playoff structure. No way an 8-8 team should be hosting a 12-4 team, let alone make the playoffs when an 11-5 team doesn't. That's a crock.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 11:31:13 AM CST

    HOD

    by xiphos_2

    I would make the argument that The Denver Broncos collapse was worse then Tampas because I think for almost the entire season Denver led thier division.It's bad to be a division leader and have to be in a play in game then lose by getting blown out.Speaking of blowouts, the Eagles laid an a ass whipping on the Cowgirls. In the immortal words of former Cowgirls head coach Jimmy Johnson, "how bout them cowboys!" How about them indeed.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 11:32:34 AM CST

    Fuck this. Franklin and I have been jerking off....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...on the old Twitch all morning. Hehehe. So this one didn't even make it up on the Top 10 and died a fast and painless death before anyone noticed?

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  • Dec 29, 2008 11:34:26 AM CST

    Death Race

    by xiphos_2

    all it is is 90 minutes of entertainment. Turn off the brain and enjoy vehicular mayhem.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 11:34:41 AM CST

    I saw The Wrestler.....its pretty damn good.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I wouldn't call it marvelous or anything like that. I think the hype might hurt it. Its probably a solid 7.89 out of 10.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 11:36:31 AM CST

    DGDB

    by xiphos_2

    No this TB has been off and on the top ten since thrusday. KungFu and I got back on a couple of times with hardly any posts over the weekend.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 11:36:45 AM CST

    STREETS OF FIRE

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    A friend of mine has been trying to get me to check this out for years. After seeing this bad ass trailer, I might finally do it. http://tinyurl.com/6udoj4

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  • Dec 29, 2008 11:37:52 AM CST

    Xiphos

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Oh, thank Christ. We'll have it to the #1 or #2 spot by tomorrow.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 11:39:27 AM CST

    Hos about The Cowgirls

    by xiphos_2

    are so overated that it's not even funny. The suffer from the same problems that the Redskins do, thier owner treats the team like it's a fantasy league team and not a real one.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 11:40:02 AM CST

    just off that trailer....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...I think a Streets of Fire remake would fucking rule. But they would have to set it in that same weird dystopian 80s future, and keep the same Meatloaf music.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 11:40:33 AM CST

    the title above should have said HOD

    by xiphos_2

    Sorry about that.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 11:42:30 AM CST

    I noticed this TB go up on Christmas Eve

    by hawaiian organ donor

    But didn't have time to post all weekend. A bunch of newcomers kept at it though.This is the first Christmas in probably 10 years that I didn't get a movie or box set.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 11:43:49 AM CST

    HEY MR. TWITCH

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    How about on the first Twitch article of 2009, you give a special thanks shout out to the CoC for all the continued support?!

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  • Dec 29, 2008 11:45:09 AM CST

    Streets of Fire

    by xiphos_2

    Is a favorite of mine it. It's fucking insanely over the top plus I got a hummer at the drive in while watching it. So I have fond memories of it.All that being said, I don't think a remake is a good idea, the movie is a product of it's time and place and would not work today. Although if I got another knober during it I would change my tune...

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  • Dec 29, 2008 11:45:27 AM CST

    I got the Godfather Coppola Edition set...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Dec 29, 2008 11:47:27 AM CST

    yeah....too easy to fuck it up and hit it up and pretty it up...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...and all that. I guess you're right. I always have high hopes for the prospect of a remake in my head, but it never fucking works out that way. Damn. I'm blasting "Nowhere Fast" right now. This song is kick fucking ass.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 11:47:57 AM CST

    I meant HIP IT UP

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Dec 29, 2008 11:49:02 AM CST

    More Streets of Fire talk

    by xiphos_2

    how cool is it to have have a slege hammer fight with the bad guy wearing pleather overalls? and still find the bad guy cool?

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  • Dec 29, 2008 11:51:18 AM CST

    Jerry Jones and the Steinbrenners can die

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Seriously. I'm tired of owners with unlimited coffers trying to buy a championship and failing. They end up elevating the "supposed" worth of worthless players so that every Tom, Dick and Harry thinks they deserve massive contracts and the smaller markets struggle year after year to compete.I have a feeling The Wrestler is going to buck the trend for me this year. All the critical darlings have been garbage to me and my favorites of the year are reviled. But The Wrestler looks like the sort of thing I fawn over.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 11:53:21 AM CST

    Did you check out that trailer Xiphos?

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    That thing impresses the fuck out of me. Most 80s trailers were absolute laughable shit. They even made hardcore movies look pussy. But that thing is cut surprisingly well (I know I know, that's what she said) with great pacing to the song, and the title hit is bad ass.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 11:54:20 AM CST

    even the misic worked in SoF

    by xiphos_2

    Dian Lane was hot, Amy Madigan was great as the lesbo side kick and Michal Pere(sp?) oozed bad ass, What the hell ever happened to Michal Pere, he was pretty decent as an action guy.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 11:57:25 AM CST

    I never pegged you as a Godfather guy, Danny

    by hawaiian organ donor

    That's a sweet box set though. I'd love to sit down and watch all 3 movies back to back to back again.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 11:57:27 AM CST

    I should not post when I'm dog tired

    by xiphos_2

    I ramble more then usual and the spelling becomes even worse. Hey look the TB is in the top 10.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 12:00:41 PM CST

    HOD -- I've never been a Godfather guy....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...but in my older years I have really come to appreciate them. I think it just naturally happened after years of reading Walter Murch books. Part 2 is my favorite.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 12:00:55 PM CST

    Danny

    by xiphos_2

    in order for me to check out trailer I will have to change computers. Is it the theater trailer for SoF? If so I probably saw it back in the day.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 12:02:51 PM CST

    I agree Danny

    by xiphos_2

    I thought Godfather 2 was the best of the series.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 12:04:02 PM CST

    cool Danny...thanks for the review..

    by jonah echo

    I've loved everything Aronofsky has done so far, with tons of love for The Fountain. This one looks a bit diff though than his other work, and I assume it's mostly a display for Rourke's performance. I'm hoping for a great movie though.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 12:04:08 PM CST

    Xiphos

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I dunno what trailer it is. It plays Nowhere Fast throughout. Watch it sometime. Its kick ass.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 12:05:02 PM CST

    Part 2 is brilliant filmmaking

    by hawaiian organ donor

    They just don't make them like that anymore.I have the version of the trilogy that came out a few years ago. That was a decent re-issue. Still have yet to watch it.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 12:05:09 PM CST

    Stupid enter button

    by xiphos_2

    I meant to add that the intercutting of young Vito's story with Michaels was brilliant.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 12:05:30 PM CST

    its very good Jonah....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...and very simple. Its a very honest trailer. That is basically the movie.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 12:07:40 PM CST

    HOD

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I skimmed through the first film just to check out the quality. Its fucking amazing how different it looks. Its not nearly as dark and not nearly as desaturated feeling. The wedding scene in particular is bright and colorful. And there are some night exteriors that look amazing, like a brand new movie!

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  • Dec 29, 2008 12:09:33 PM CST

    Danny...yea

    by jonah echo

    I liked that trailer because it seemed like it showed you what exactly the movie was, but held back the thing that would make the movie worthwhile, the emotional impact of it playing out. That springsteen song sounded spot perfect for the film too.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 12:10:21 PM CST

    The Wrestler...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...there is a wrestling scene involving a lot of weapons like barb wire, staple guns, sheets of glass, etc. Fuck....that scene is a bit hard to watch. It almost gets to Passion of the Christ levels where I was thinking, why the fuck do I need to see this? It feels a bit excessive like Aronofsky was just getting off on it, and its show awkwardly in flashback just a few minutes later when he is in the locker room. Weird scene.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 12:18:57 PM CST

    The Wrestler

    by xiphos_2

    Along with Gran Torino are the first two movies I want to catch when I get home.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 12:32:13 PM CST

    Keep in mind Danny

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Back in the day, Wrestlers used those types of props in the ring. You might be too young to remember but in the late 70s, kids would bring wrestling magazines to school and that stuff gave me nightmares. The wrestlers were all bloody and cut to hell and it was just nasty.So if I had to take a guess, I'd say that the scene serves to show what Rourke's character went through in his younger days and explains why his face looks ravaged, while also showing the difference between the glamor of pretty boy wrestlers today versus the brutes that got sliced and diced back in the day.Wrestling has come a loooooong way since the 70s.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 12:37:41 PM CST

    I know HOD....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...I've seen footage of the real deal. And I even went to a few local backyard wrestling events where kids busted out cheese graters on the face and shit. I'm not saying it doesnt fit the wrestling world, it just felt oddly placed and inappropriate within that film.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 12:40:06 PM CST

    I guess its not the fact that its there....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...just the way he shows it that felt odd.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 12:51:37 PM CST

    70's and early 80's wrestling

    by xiphos_2

    was great. Those crazy mothers really mixed it up and the fights were fairly brutal. I really haven't seen modern wrestling matches but today it seems that most of the damage that wrestler's face today is self inflicted through performance enhancing drugs.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 1:01:01 PM CST

    Cheese graters

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Kids today need to be choked with an anchor chain. If I saw something like that happening in a backyard I'd open up on them with an automatic. Call it preemptive.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 1:09:26 PM CST

    I've always loved wrestling....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...I find it entertaining as hell. They are doing some amazing stunt/pyro work in the WWE right now. I catch a match every once in awhile and its always 10 guys drop kicking on guy in the head. Great stuff. I'd watch that any day over that UFC 22 second street fighting bullshit. I don't find it entertaining in the slightest to watch two illiterate white trash dudes knock each other on their ass and then lay on one another until the end of the match.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 1:10:43 PM CST

    cheese graters

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Yes those kids have serious fucking problems. And the sad thing is, it like many other acts of stupidity can be traced back to poverty. No rich kid with a nice car has ever taken a cheese grater to his fucking pimply face.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 1:18:59 PM CST

    Harry says its obvious wrestling is NOT an athletic event....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ....what a stupid fucking comment. Just because its predetermined means its not atheltic, no matter how much amazing shit they do? Yet some fucking stuntman jump kicking a goon dressed like Batman on a movie set is a fucking God in his eyes? That fucking tub of slob should quit bragging about how many reps he curled with a 15 pound dumbbell and shut his fucking slobbering Jabba mouth!

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  • Dec 29, 2008 1:24:49 PM CST

    One thing the WWE has going for it

    by xiphos_2

    is that the wrestler themselves are tremendous athletes. Seeing 275 pound guys doing flips is impressive in a commercial.Danny please don't get me started on UFC and the like. To me it's mind boggeling that anybody ponies the cabbage up to watch two closeted dudes writhe around on the ground with each other.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 1:54:35 PM CST

    Haven't seen Red Cliff part one

    by iammrmonkey!

    Should I be interested in Red Cliff part two? I mean, it looks entertaining and it's directed by John Woo and everything, but I'm kinda getting a little tired of all these epic asian battle movies. Who'd have thought that would be possible?

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  • Dec 29, 2008 2:16:05 PM CST

    I'm seeing The Wrestler tomorrow

    by the milf lover

    Really looking forward to it. That hardcore match Rourke has in the movie is with Necro Butcher. You want to see some of that sick stuf, go on youtube and search for him, guys like Madman Pondo, and CZW or japanese hardcore wrestling. You wont believe how crazy they can get. That 70s stuff is child's play in comparison.
    I'm tempted to make it a double bill with The Spirit, since tomorrow is cheap movie day. The more I read about how shit it is, the more I feel compelled to witness the train wreck. What the hell is wrong with me?

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  • Dec 29, 2008 5:36:53 PM CST

    Hello, Party People!

    by mavra chang

    Hope everyone had a great holiday. Sounds like people are getting caught up on movie viewing. Cool! Other than the traditional multiple watchings of "A Christmas Story", I had the opportunity to see the worst film to pass my way this year (and that's saying a lot!) and one of the weirdest films I've ever seen. The awful one is called "Kiss of the Vampire". Blech is the best description of it. The weird one was "Mum and Dad". I'm still trying to decide what to think of it. It was really bizarre and disgusting. I think I'll try to go a bit more maintsream next. "Desparation Road", "The Wrestler", and "Benjamin Button" are all on my soon-to-see list. I'll check back in here sometime when the joint's jumping a little more. Peace!

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  • Dec 29, 2008 5:44:31 PM CST

    I loved wresling during theNWO days ...

    by worldofwarcraft

    UFC is such junk, but it's on the verge of replacing boxing in the heirarchy of American sports. Which is a shame, because boxing can be such a sweet science, and MMA never will be so artful.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 6:12:43 PM CST

    Hello All!

    by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar

    Fred missing out on day time chatting because everyone else is out of the office on vacation! Fred has no time off, so thems the breaks! Fred breathed sigh of relief about Ben. Still, if we had to go with Leftwich, Fred would not have been too upset. Still...
    Fred feels bad for Just Pillow Talk. Fred thinks Denver collapse just as bad or worse than Tampa, because San Diego was terrible most of the years, and Denver allowed them back into it. Fred most fears the Colts of all teams in NFL.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 6:19:55 PM CST

    I agree Warcraft....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ....boxing is like chess-- its a careful dance. MMA bullshit is just drunk swinging.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 6:44:41 PM CST

    I dont mind MMA so much

    by the milf lover

    when they decide to actually fight using their kickboxing/martial arts skills and hit each other, it can be really good. Unfortunately, most fights end up with guys wrapped around each other, rolling around on the floor trying to apply a leglock for 3 minutes, then a lame tapout. Yawn. Submission style is for pussies, real men beat the crap out of each other.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 10:55:54 PM CST

    hope all you bitches had a good Christmas...

    by just pillow talk

    So I watched The Dark Knight again, and I still love it. My insincere apologies to Xi and Hawaiian for their dislike of the film.And Hellboy II still rocks. At least I have Frankie on my side with this one. Incredible Hulk is better than Lee's Hulk, but like Mrs. Pillow said "there sure is a lot of running". Bruce is the best running scientist. Ever. Some other movies I've seen over the past week...Son of Rambow - a nice little movie, I really liked the two kids in the movie a lot.Get Smart - I thought this was much better than I expected, and the Prada bitch looked pretty hot to me.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 10:58:13 PM CST

    Fred: why, did something bad happen to the Jets?

    by just pillow talk

    *tightens rope around neck*

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  • Dec 29, 2008 11:00:46 PM CST

    Denver's collapse far worse...

    by just pillow talk

    I think they led by 3 games for almost the entire year until those damn last 3 weeks... doh!

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  • Dec 29, 2008 11:01:40 PM CST

    have fun at work ya dirty cunts!

    by just pillow talk

    I'll be back in on Friday...fucking year end fucking closing. Cunts!

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  • Dec 29, 2008 11:07:50 PM CST

    Who would make good new Q.

    by series7

    Since it seems to be the main topic of discussion. I think Jimmy Carr would make an awesome reboot of Q. Any other thoughts? I mean the next Bond is going to need something interesting to get the fans back from the Abortion of Something.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 11:18:41 PM CST

    Saw

    by series7

    Slumdog, really good Horton Hears a Who, surprisingly good. I really bought into what the critics say. Horton was good fun cartoon movies were all really good this year. I have a suspicious feeling about this Delgo movie now. Saw Christmas on Mars, the Flaming Lips movie. Fucking god awful don't waste your time. Even if your a fan of the bands, it was more worthless then Lynch. At Lynch at least usually has crazy shit happening, this movie just had nothing at all.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 11:34:27 PM CST

    Wow

    by series7

    Toy Story 1 was the highest grossing movie in 95? With only about 300, the last time a movie grossing only about 300 being the the highest grossing movie of the year was Fatal Attraction in 87.

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  • Dec 29, 2008 11:40:38 PM CST

    the story behind Delgo fascinates me....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ....and that Flaming Lips trailer was fantastic. I don't need to see the movie. The trailer gives me a semi.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 12:12:25 AM CST

    JPT

    by xiphos_2

    I didn't say I disliked TDK, what I said was that I didn't like it as much as everbody else did. I am OK with that.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 12:44:49 AM CST

    Yeah

    by series7

    The Delgo story sounds interesting, but also sounds too much like Dungeons and Dragons.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 12:45:30 AM CST

    Yeah that Trailer

    by series7

    Was like 1000% more entertaining then the movie.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 1:00:38 AM CST

    This TB wasn't dead Danny

    by kungfuhustler84

    my posts above put in on the top ten for a little bit of time. Unfortunately, I have been sick and sleeping a great deal, so no luck keeping it up there the whole time.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 1:05:02 AM CST

    Saw Valkyrie tonight

    by kungfuhustler84

    It was better tan I expected but not really incredible or anything. I really have no problem with Tom Cruise's acting, even though he plays the same sort of intense guy in every movie (including, to an extent, Tropic Thunder). This has an INCREDIBLE supporting cast, and altogether is a pretty slick little package. Singer's really not a bad director by any means according to this movie.It's crazy seeing how close they actually got to killing Hitler, even if the events of the film only happened nine months before the war would end.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 1:48:22 AM CST

    so did he cum or what?

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Full frontal? What the fuck?!!

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  • Dec 30, 2008 1:50:03 AM CST

    anybody wanting to see Delgo

    by the milf lover

    better get to the cineplex fast, because it flopped so hard, it's gonna disappear -if it didnt already- even more quietly than it was released. Was there ANY publicity for this movie at all?

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  • Dec 30, 2008 1:57:22 AM CST

    full frontal cum? what?

    by kungfuhustler84

  • Dec 30, 2008 2:01:54 AM CST

    those poor bastards couldn't afford publicity....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ....its really a sad story. I don't really wanna see it. Its just interesting.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 2:03:00 AM CST

    good article on Delgo...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    http://tinyurl.com/89u584

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  • Dec 30, 2008 2:03:17 AM CST

    alright kids.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Remember, ALWAYS pull out!

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  • Dec 30, 2008 2:18:58 AM CST

    thanks for the Delgo article Danny!

    by the milf lover

    it is a very enlightening read! they should have taken a cue from that Acker guy who made 9, and create a short movie first to get noticed, instead of wasting 10 years on a bloated project no one will care or even hear about.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 2:57:57 AM CST

    It better not be just me on my own again today

    by franklin t marmoset

    I was losing it with all that rambling yesterday.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 2:59:17 AM CST

    Hey, JPT was in

    by franklin t marmoset

    Hope you had a great Christmas, mate.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 3:03:18 AM CST

    Wrestling

    by franklin t marmoset

    I went through a phase of watching it during the Stone Cold/The Rock years, and although I don't watch it any more I did come away with a great deal of respect for what wrestlers do. Part actors, part athletes, part stuntmen, part enormous freaks of nature - they do it all, and they do it five or six times a week all year around.That is a hard, hard job they have, and I completely understand why they get pissed off when people dismiss wrestling as 'fake'.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 3:07:05 AM CST

    I've been watching Spaced again

    by franklin t marmoset

    My brother got it for me for Christmas (thanks, Bradley M Marmoset) and I had forgotten how funny it was. I haven't seen it since it was on the telly, and it's good to see it again.I am officially not annoyed with Simon Pegg any more. For the time being.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 6:05:03 AM CST

    You bunch of cunts

    by franklin t marmoset

    Sometimes I doubt your commitment to talking about crap on the internets.Do you know what I've spent most of the morning doing?Working!I should not have to do this much work while I am suffering from a bad case of post-Christmas can't-be-assed-itis. That is cruel and unusual.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 7:13:59 AM CST

    I loves me some boxing

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Unfortunately they have too many belts and allow past their prime boxers to compete. And the Pay Per View thing doesn't help either.But watching the brothers Klitschko, Pacquaio, and Calzaghe is a thing of beauty.Finally watched Into The Wild last night. Talk about being a year late. Great movie but frustrating as hell watching such promise disintegrate.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 7:30:08 AM CST

    The Calzaghe/Jones fight depressed me

    by franklin t marmoset

    Not that I have anything against Calzaghe - he's great - but Roy Jones had no business taking that fight. Still, I suppose he's entitled to one last payday.I do wish Calzaghe had been less of a prick about it, though. If you're beating up on a guy who's best days are a few years behind him, don't clown around like that. Show some class, for fuck's sake.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 7:47:32 AM CST

    Wait until we see a Calzaghe/Pacquaio fight

    by hawaiian organ donor

    There will be zero clowning around then. The KO of the Year is up and it's a beauty. A no-name, Edison Miranda, clocked a guy in the third and knocked him through the ropes. Out cold.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 7:56:43 AM CST

    Is that definitely on?

    by franklin t marmoset

    The last I heard, Calzaghe was mulling over retiring, although he seems to have plenty left to offer.I wouldn't say no to a rematch with Hopkins, especially since Hopkins beat Pavlik.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 8:04:11 AM CST

    I don't share your interest in the Klitschkos

    by franklin t marmoset

    Not that they're awful (although they're not exactly great, either), but more that they're a glaring reminder of what a desloate wasteland the heavyweight division has been for a while now.Audley Harrison really fucked up there. Had he applied himself and actually LEARNED how to be a professional, he had a pretty good chance of cleaning up the division. Instead, he has a bunch of virtual exhibition matches and - surprise, surprise - he can't hold his own against the first guy who knows how to fight back. What a waste.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 8:54:58 AM CST

    The Klitschkos aren't pretty boxers

    by hawaiian organ donor

    But they are surgical. They step in the ring and without flair, passion or grace beat down the other guy with well timed punches. I guess that's the Ph.D in them operating.Pavlik is one hell of a boxer too.I'd be shocked if there isn't a Calzaghe/Pacquaio fight. That would be the biggest payday in boxing history.The heavyweight class has gone down the crapper. It isn't what is was back in the glorious 80s. That's when boxing was king. And we had VHS back then too. Sigh.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 9:04:28 AM CST

    Okay, you're all trustworthy people

    by iammrmonkey!

    Ignoring the hype machines, is it worth my while watching 'Burn After Reading'? I really loved the earlier Cohen stuff like Fargo but the later stuff has left me a bit cold. I wasn't especially keen on 'No Country For Old Men' due to the ending (i felt a bit cheated). Do you think I'd like 'Burn After Reading'?

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  • Dec 30, 2008 9:10:07 AM CST

    LOL - I've been discussing VHS over in that other TB

    by franklin t marmoset

    I think I've come out against it, just like I'm against most of the 80s heavyweights.Larry Holmes? That guy was great, but otherwise it was almost as big a mess as it is now, until Tyson came along to sort things out.The 90s was the last great era for heavyweights, I reckon. Holyfield, Bowe, Tyson, Lewis. Some great fights (most of them with Holyfield involved somewhere) and great champions.I'll tell you what was great in the 80s. Middleweights. Hagler, Hearns, Leonard, Duran. There were some amazing fights in that division back then.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 9:11:19 AM CST

    I loved Burn After Reading

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I was expecting the worst going in because of some negative reviews from friends and family but Kung Fu recommended it and he was spot on. It's just an amazingly well done character movie. I can't believe it's probably going to crack my top ten.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 9:24:04 AM CST

    OK, you're right, it was the early and mid 90s

    by hawaiian organ donor

    When heavyweights were king. Last year I watched all 3 Bowe/Holyfield fights and they were spectacular. And middleweights ruled the 80s. I watched the Hagler/Hearns/Leonard/Duran fights last year too (thank you BitTorrent) and I was on my feet cheering.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 9:37:51 AM CST

    Mind you, if I ever make a cartoon...

    by franklin t marmoset

    ...it will be called The League Of Eighties Heavyweights and will feature James 'Bonecrusher' Smith, Tony 'TNT' Tucker, Tim Witherspoon, Michael Dokes, Trevor Berbick and Pinklon Thomas, and they will all travel around fighting crime, much like The A-Team, but with significantly more punching.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 9:43:06 AM CST

    Are there a lot of fights on BitTorrent?

    by franklin t marmoset

    I'm mulling over getting broadband at home, and one reason is I was hoping I could download fights. Coverage of boxing has gotten pretty piss poor here in England. Maybe the internets can help me out with that.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 10:04:20 AM CST

    I've seen a little bit of Spaced....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood


    ...and it annoys the fuck out of me. If I met people like that in real life I would beat them with an office chair. I saw that episode where they do that slow mo gunfight thing making gun sounds with their mouths. I just don't get it. My 6th Grade self would have found it to be hysterical. But my old man self? Naaaawww. I'll stick to the CUNT jokes.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 10:23:12 AM CST

    Damn straights, Franklin

    by hawaiian organ donor

    You can find all the current fights up on the tubes, usually the day after they happen. And I found a boxing torrent site last year and I grabbed from as far back as the 50s. Ali and Frazier, Barrera and Morales trilogy, Foreman and Moorer........just classic stuff you won't see anywhere.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 10:29:30 AM CST

    Danny you are too jaded

    by jonah echo

    by the way, saw The Wrestler last night and mostly agree with what you said. The movie didnt become insta-classic in my mind, but it's growing on me as we speak.

    Rourke was great, Tomei was great too. Wood actually annoyed me, and her part is far smaller than many let on. It feels like an honest movie, and there were a few times where I felt like "cmon, forget honesty, I'll take a little hollywood feel-good, even just a pinch!" Still, I think it may constitute a place on my top ten. Still working through films.

    I'll say I think there is a depth to the film that isnt immediately grasped, and that is largely because of how straight, down to grimy earth Rourke is playing it.

    Also, you were right about the brutality of certain scenes. But they, like all of Tomei's stripper scenes, hammered home the reality of his job and the toll it took on him. Obviously, the wrestling scenes are far harder to watch.

    The Passion comparison is even made in the movie by Tomei, and I think on reflection will add up to more. I don't think it was terribly exploitative, and certainly no worse than Jen Connolly's scene in Requiem.

    Loved weird little details like the staple-gun guy saying thinks like "Thank you, sir. I'll live." as he is bleeding head to toe from barbwire lacerations and staples in his chest.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 10:36:23 AM CST

    Barrera Morales I is one of my all-time favourites

    by franklin t marmoset

    That is world championship boxing at its absolute best, I reckon.I'm going to have to step into the modern world and get me some internets at home. Just as soon as I can afford a better computer.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 10:37:00 AM CST

    Did Danny just insult my Christmas present?

    by franklin t marmoset

  • Dec 30, 2008 10:39:17 AM CST

    I'm looking forward to The Wrestler

    by franklin t marmoset

    It's not out for another few weeks here, but I'm definitely checking that one out.I've liked Aronofsky so far, and it'll be great to see Mickey Rourke back to his best.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 10:42:19 AM CST

    So am I the only one who loved Eagle Eye?

    by hobocode

    Watched it last night and thought it kicked some ass.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 10:42:57 AM CST

    Evan annoyed you?

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Really? I came out thinking she gave the strongest performance. I think Tomei is insanely overrated for that part. She is always good, but saying its one of the best female performances of the year....say whaaaaaaat? Not that I claim to know what would be the best female performance of the year, but she didn't do much.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 10:43:33 AM CST

    Hobo

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Yes. You're the only one. Down the Even Stevens and his nostrils.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 10:44:55 AM CST

    sorry Franklin....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Dec 30, 2008 10:45:51 AM CST

    I like Shia.

    by hobocode

    I'm no longer ashamed of it. He's a good actor and funny. to each his own.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 10:56:21 AM CST

    I have no problems with Shia

    by hawaiian organ donor

    He's just given horrible characters to portray.Eagle Eye was good up until the scene in the tunnel. After that it just became a mess with the State of the Union and Dawson and the soldier powering down HAL.I still have a feeling The Wrestler will be right up my alley. If it skips feel-good for real life then I'm sold. That was why The Visitor had such appeal to me. That ending was both beautiful and a punch to the gut.Hmmmm, The Visitor, The Hammer, The Fall, The Wrestler.....do I see a trend?

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  • Dec 30, 2008 10:58:27 AM CST

    Shia love....always kills the erections in the room....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Dec 30, 2008 10:58:30 AM CST

    HOD

    by hobocode

    What was messy beyond that point? It was a great climax that was perfectly executed in my opinion. the only thing I didn't like was the 30 second epilogue where Jerry and Rachel kiss, but that was so fleeting it barely registered.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 10:59:27 AM CST

    Mori's best of year list..

    by jonah echo

    I still need to see button, but out of the films on his list, 6 are in my top 15. HOD, you will be pleased to see what makes #2.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 10:59:58 AM CST

    sorry..didnt post it..here it is

    by jonah echo

    http://www.hitfix.com/articles/2008-12-26-motion-capture-s-10-best-films-of-2008

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  • Dec 30, 2008 11:01:47 AM CST

    HOD

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    People defend Shia by saying he is given shitty roles....but really, what the fuck kind of role could he play where I wouldn't want to punch his fucking nose in? He is a wormy little nerd that exists soley to annoy me. So the only role I can see him working in, is as Louis Tully in a remake of Ghostbusters. But that wouldn't happen because now he's packed on some bulk, which automatically means he is a tough guy.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 11:03:02 AM CST

    You and I aren't seeing eye to eye on much this year, Node

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Then again, I'm going to have a top ten list like no one else.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 11:03:21 AM CST

    no performance in the wrestler

    by jonah echo

    was really "strong" save for Rourke. Everyone else was exactly the kind of support they needed to be. I just meant Tomei was great, not that it was a revelatory role or anything. Wood seemed to be trying to hard, but it might also be because I thought her role was slightly underwritten in everything but her big scene with Rourke. Again, a second viewing might simply illuminate to me that her character grated against me, because we want to see the Ram succeed and due to his failures as as a dad, his attempts at a relationship with his daughter are understandably complicated.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 11:04:03 AM CST

    I don't know HOD..

    by jonah echo

    I have a feeling you and I will be pretty similar save for 2 already known choices.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 11:07:26 AM CST

    hitflix is up?

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    When the hell did this happen? No one said anything?
    And if you're reading Moriarty. Layout wise, that site looks like dog shit.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 11:12:23 AM CST

    It's a decent site, but I agree..

    by jonah echo

    it looks bland visually. Still I think Mori's writing over there feels stronger. An editor maybe?

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  • Dec 30, 2008 11:15:19 AM CST

    its just too fucking corporate....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I have no reason whatsoever to ever go that site. And visually its bland, and content wise its messy-- so no thanks.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 11:17:37 AM CST

    I saw Mori's list yesterday

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Between that and his almost list, Mori is the man. Some excellent choices there.Node, that ending was anti-climatic. The way they powered down HAL was retarded. This sucker has the capability of making a coffee mug in a remote village in Peru explode but had near zero defense in stopping two people from shutting down her core? I dunno, that seemed sketchy. And it wasn't shot with any excitement. Oh look, they pulled her drives. Oh look she's uploading to a satellite. Oh look they shoved a perfectly placed prop in her eye and killed her. It needed to be more edge of your seat in my humble opinion.Regarding Shia, he's a fine actor to me. I have zero issues there. I just can't relate to his characters because he always plays a douchebag. But he plays a douchebag well. Give him a role as a sweetheart in a romcom and I'm sold.If you guys haven't learned that I don't hate on ANYONE in Hollywood by now, I don't know what it will take. Regardless if an actor/writer/director puts out something as tragically dreadful as The Women, I'll still watch their next project. I don't hold ghost Rider against Nic Cage, Indy 4 against Spielberg or Elizabethtown against Cameron Crowe. They were tremendous missteps that wasted hours I'll never get back, but they didn't give me cancer or anything so it's all forgiven.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 11:24:32 AM CST

    That's true, Jonah

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Actually, I think we both agree on at least 5 movies which is probably more than I will with anyone else, critic or regular joe so we're gellin' with magellan, whatever the hell that means.Hitfix is ass. I don't mind a music section, but have some damn integrity and don't give Britney Spears any more bandwidth than she already has. Leave that to the gossip rags. If you're going to bother covering music, shine attention on musicians that deserve and need it.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 11:27:35 AM CST

    It seems awkward for Drew to be involved with that...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ....its like Entertainment Tonight's fucking website. What the shit? Why the fuck would you think the world needs another entertainment website like that? Seriously.....

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  • Dec 30, 2008 11:44:22 AM CST

    My thoughts exactly, Danny

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I thought he was going to turn the site into what AICN used to be. But even then, it's still redundant. Between Dark Horizons, Latino Review, JoBlo, Empire and Coming Soon, the net is already over-saturated with movie news. Who knows WTF Drew was thinking.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 11:49:21 AM CST

    its just so unfriendly feeling.....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ....it feels corporate and cold. Even more so than what Latino Review has become. At least that still has somewhat of a community feel. Can you imagine Hit Flix putting together giveaway contests or screenings or anything like that? Fuck no. It doesn't feel like a site that gives a shit about the readership. It just exists for the sole purpose of making money. AICN doesn't feel like that. No matter how much we trash it-- I can still appreciate AICN for being whacky and not going clean/corporate and business casual.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 11:56:26 AM CST

    Eagle Eye.

    by hobocode

    Damn man. I was on the edge of my seat for that entire movie, even the ending. I thought they intercut between the core scene and the state of the union perfectly to balance the suspension and action. I don't have a problem with the core lacking defense though I have to say Aria did a pretty good job of defending herself. She killed two people before she was disconnected. Besides, Aria's power was decentralized. HAL was easily disconnected in 2001 as well becasue once you got to his core it was just a matter of powering it down. but hey if it didn't work for you that's cool. just wanted to give my two cents.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 12:13:37 PM CST

    Well, the issue with Aria is this

    by hawaiian organ donor

    She was a supercomputer. Simply sticking a fork in her eye wouldn't destroy her. In fact, it would take a lot. They were headed somewhat in the right direction by trying to make her overheat, but they discarded that by having Dawson shove ye olde javelin in Aria's bread basket.The best solution would have been shutting her down via EMP. But that would have required the writer to come up with a clever way to shoehorn that in so they just went with a near direct ripoff of 2001.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 12:28:24 PM CST

    Huh? They didn't discard the overheating.

    by hobocode

    What are you talking about? The minuteman guy purged her liquid nitrogen tanks and before she shut down she made a last gasp effort to kill Dawson and simultaneously upload her memory before dying. The stake through the eye was just an extraneous way for the film to more vividly portray her "death" by having Dawson eliminate the final threat.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 12:29:48 PM CST

    WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT?!!

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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  • Dec 30, 2008 12:32:51 PM CST

    I have not seen Eagle Eye but I have a question

    by xiphos_2

    If you are talking about destroying a computer by removing parts or overheating why can't they just blow it up? It wouldn't take much explosives to render it hors de combat if you're in the main computer room.I seem to remember from seeing a couple of trailer for the movie they had all sorts of weapons and explosives.Shia Labouf doesn't really register with me yet. He's sort of a bland presence but I will say this, he was by far the best thing in that crappy Transformer movie. I know that is damning by faint praise.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 12:40:51 PM CST

    Xi

    by hobocode

    It all happens kind of fast and they don't realize the computer is the actual threat until it's too late. Jerry and Rachel are away from the computer because she is still having her strings pulled under threat, and he is able to escape through help in order to stop the assasination of the President and his cabinent at the state of the union address. the people who ultimately kill the machine are the cops/military who finally figure out the computer is the actual threat (and not jerry and rachel) after it attempts to kill them too and they are left defenseless. they were also trapped in a fictional basment level of the pentagon where no explosives could be reached.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 12:43:17 PM CST

    Oh Christ....I just had a horrible flashback....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I remember the day the rumor first popped up about Shia playing Indy's son. I was joking around with a friend a few days before saying "Man....watch them really fuck it up bad and get someone like that little fuck Shia to play Indy Jr. It wouldn't surprise me." And guess what I read a few days later!!! Yeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!

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  • Dec 30, 2008 12:46:12 PM CST

    Maybe I remember it differently

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I thought they were "trying" to purge her tanks but she knocked them into the drink before they had a chance.Xi, you're right. Lobbing a grenade into her belly would have done the trick also.Regardless, it was a decent flick. I just felt the third act was a letdown.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 12:49:09 PM CST

    If there was liquid nitrogen tanks present

    by xiphos_2

    turn off the preasure release valves and due the gas expansion ration, if I remember correctly, is high it will explode quickly, I think. It will explode, I just don't remember how fast. Well anyway it's just an idea I thought of when I saw the nitorgen tank comment.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 12:53:19 PM CST

    Ignore us Danny

    by hawaiian organ donor

    We're talking about a movie you'll never see.Capone is out of his mind. His best/worst list is bonkers.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 12:56:16 PM CST

    HOD

    by xiphos_2

    A grenade probably would not do enough damage since it does it gets the job done through the release of shrapnel. I was thinking more along the lines of C4 or Semtex. Either use a explosive pack or wire that mother up. Bing bang BOOM!

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  • Dec 30, 2008 12:57:28 PM CST

    Nitrogen tanks

    by hobocode

    They at least start to purge her tanks and then Dawson smashes it's CPU.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 12:58:35 PM CST

    ignore the word "does" above

    by xiphos_2

    I wrote something else but changed it and did not get all the old sentence out of the way.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 1:08:45 PM CST

    Aria's voice.

    by hobocode

    Just looked it up becase it was uncredited. Julianne Moore. that was driving me nuts. i knew it sounded familiar. Just makes me love the movie more somehow.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 1:12:53 PM CST

    Moriarty has a best of the year?

    by kungfuhustler84

    Where can I see it?

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  • Dec 30, 2008 1:14:18 PM CST

    I have a pretty good idea of my top ten right now

    by kungfuhustler84

    but I'm gonna hold off on telling everybody until I see Benjamin Button, the Wrestler, and Let the Right One In. Any others I should consider I may not have seen. I thought about adding Doubt to the list too perhaps.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 1:18:17 PM CST

    I'm content with all I've seen

    by jonah echo

    save for Benjamin Button. I'd love to see Waltz with Bashir but it just ain't happening. Saw Revolutionary Road, and I've gotta say that my distaste for Sam Mendes continues. Road to Perdition was the only film he's done I even sort of liked, and it had it's problems.

    Suprisingly though, Frost/Nixon was very good.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 1:21:47 PM CST

    Speed Racer is Capone's Worts of the Year?

    by kungfuhustler84

    Aw fuck that shit.still my favorite summer movie after Wall-E, hands down.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 1:28:21 PM CST

    kungfu

    by jonah echo

    its up at hitflix.com.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 1:32:57 PM CST

    Kung Fu

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I'll cut off a foot....nay, both feet, if TGTBTW doesn't make your top ten list.My list will have to be a personal favorites list as I won't have seen enough to declare what the absolute best were.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 1:33:38 PM CST

    I haven't seen a lot of movies this year

    by xiphos_2

    But of the ones I have seen I put The Hammer as my top movie of the year, by far.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 1:39:33 PM CST

    Capone is a douche

    by hawaiian organ donor

    There were some remarkably dreadful films this year, more in one year than I can remember in at least a decade. How can people pick on Speed Racer and The Mummy in the same year that Sex and the City, The Love Guru, What Happens In Vegas, Semi-Pro and Crystal Skull came out? Jesus, give it up.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 1:43:31 PM CST

    Well done Xi

    by hawaiian organ donor

    The Hammer goes in my top ten. And you're the only guy I've seen mention it for a best of list. Either people didn't see it or the ones who did are douchebags because it's the most charming movie of the year.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 1:48:36 PM CST

    HOD

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    See your "People who don't like The Hammer are douche bags" statement is more hardcore and divisive than shit I say. But I always get attacked for shitting on the opinion of others. Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww fuck!!! Fuck Capone. Thats all I gotsta say. And these best of the year lists always sort of piss me off. I don't like how there are those golden movies everyone sucks off and people just expect to put on their own Top 10. Like saying you can't put your list together until you see Let The Right One In or some shit. Its weird to just assume you will love something cause everyone else does. Thats why I never open my mouth about this stuff. Most movies I enjoy, most people think are shit. And most movies everyone praises put me to sleep.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 1:50:42 PM CST

    Frost/Nixon, that's another one

    by kungfuhustler84

    Waltz with Bashir was really good, but not something i would put on a favorites (not best) list.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 1:51:29 PM CST

    Oh shut the fuck up about Crystal Skull.

    by hobocode

    I'm sorry but it's one thing if you didn't like it but to say it's one of the worst? Get real. The only people I know who didn't like Skull were fanboys with over-inflated expectations. Normal moviegoers loved it. It's fun. I'm not going to say I liked Speed Racer (in fact I despised it mostly because I'm not 5 y.o. and thought it didn't have anyhting for anyone above that age) but I'm also not going to say it's one of the worst either.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 1:54:48 PM CST

    HoboCode

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Its not nice to tell people you converse with on a daily basis to shut the fuck up. And Crystal Skull was fucking garbage. I am no fanboy. I don't buy fucking toys and merchandise, I don't go to conventions, and I don't get autographs. I'm actually a pretty casual movie viewer for this site.

    I know plenty of people that give a fuck about movies that didn't like it Indy IV at all. I asked my 57 year old mother what she thought of it compared to the old ones and she said "I didn't like it because it felt like a cartoon."

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  • Dec 30, 2008 1:56:31 PM CST

    Hobocode

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    And yes, I think out of the films I saw in the theater in 2008. Indiana Jones was probably the worst. I can't think of another viewing experience I had where I actually wanted to leave. Most films I pay to see are ones I know a fair amount about and am fairly certain I will enjoy to some extent. Indy IV fucking shocked me.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 2:06:10 PM CST

    I agree, it ain't fair Danny

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I'm saying some hot headed stuff today. I'm in a mood most foul. I want to hurt somebody, anybody, bad. So I'm taking it out on this and the Capone TBs.And I'm still at a loss (sorry Node) how wonky people's tastes are this year. Not to be divisive but the way I see it everyone is forgiving when it comes to, ahem, certain movies that people were convinced they were going to love from the get go. It's weird.See, I can understand someone not liking KOTCS but liking The Mummy 3, but I can't understand the reverse. I don't know if that makes any sense.Call me an a-hole, but 2008 will be remembered as the year of movie forgiveness for me. As sure as I'm sitting at a job that's killing me right now, I believe 10 years from now people will look back at top ten lists from 2008 and wonder, "WTF WAS I THINKING?!"

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  • Dec 30, 2008 2:06:47 PM CST

    I'm not assuming I will love it

    by kungfuhustler84

    I haven't seen them yet, and they came out this year. Plus, it just gives me more incentive to actually get out there and see those damn movies!!! I have been wanting to see all of them for months now. I am an unabashed Mickey Rourke AND Aronofsky fan, a vampire movie lover (who yes, just wants to see what the hype was about a little bit as well), and Benjamin Button has been my most anticipated movie of the winter. I was going to see Benjamin Button last night but I told my girlfriend I would wait for her to see it when I get back to Oregon.I seriously doubt my top ten as it stands now is going to be like others you have seen Danny. I have seen more movies this year than I have in a long time, so why not round it off by seeing as many other movies as I can. I think my tastes gravitate much like yours might; towards the more fringe or less loved movies of the year. Just to show you what I mean, here are my current top ten (favorites, not best. ones I enjoyed the most at the theatre)10. Kung-fu Panda9. Rambo8. Be Kind Rewind7. The Dark Knight6. Burn After Reading5. Wall-E4. Red Cliff Part I3. Speed Racer2. The Fall1. Synecdoche, New YorkI have yet to see Doomsday, The Good The Bad the Weird, In Bruges, The Band's Visit, Let the Right One In, Benjamin button, The Wrestler, or Mongol, all of which I would like to get to before I feel I can make a complete, honest list. I know it doesn't matter to anyone else here, but as a movie enthusiast, I would like to give all the movies a chance that I have been excited about, but still haven't gotten to for some reason. After all, I'm just a poor college kid.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 2:08:02 PM CST

    I thought we agreed unanimously

    by kungfuhustler84

    to never bring up Crystal Skull or The Dark Knight ever again. At this pint, it's just boring.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 2:10:04 PM CST

    That is seriously my list as it stands now

    by kungfuhustler84

    and if I don't like any of those other movies, I of course wouldn't change it. That being said, I have VERY HIGH hopes for TGTBTW, and Benjamin Button.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 2:10:52 PM CST

    OK, Danny summed it up for me

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Let's just say for the sake of being reasonable that Crystal Skull isn't the worst movie of the year but rather my worst movie going experience.In all honesty The Love Guru is probably the worst movie of the year, followed closely by Sex And The Women.But from a purely "I could walk out of this movie now and wouldn't care" aspect, KOTCS was tops. Followed closely by.......well, I think you all can guess.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 2:11:49 PM CST

    Please

    by hobocode

    You're a fanboy Danny. Just the fact that you're on this site makes you one. I'm talking in a movie geek sense, not a collecting statuette's sense. Either way the only way one did not enjoy Indy IV is because they built up the movie and the originals in their minds so much that it was bound to be disappointing. The originals aren't cartoony? Are you god damn kidding me? Just using Raiders since it's probably the least cartoony in your mind: Seeing three guys heads melt/implode/explode isn't cartoony? Indy's pro-wrestling-like fight with the Nazi isn't cartoony? Indy crawling on the bottom of a speeding truck isn't cartoony? Flying Ghostbuster-like spirits aren't cartoony? the slapstick Tibetan bar brawl isn't cartoony? Indy running from Oonga boonga blow-pipe weilding tribesman isn't cartoony? People just don't remember because they saw these movies when they were kids or when they were younger.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 2:14:09 PM CST

    Wow, I just realized

    by kungfuhustler84

    TWO Jack Black movies. I feel a little silly, but it's true. I am a Jack Black fan, and won't stop being one until he starts getting all lame or overexposed. He DID come dangerously close this year, but every movie he was in was GREAT FUN! so who cares.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 2:15:34 PM CST

    Good job, Kung Fu

    by hawaiian organ donor

    You and I share 6 movies in common. That's damned impressive. Chuck The Visitor, The Hammer, Burn After Reading and TGTBTW on there and you've got yourself a deal!I'm shocked you have Rambo on there. That was, without question, the most fun I had watching a movie this year.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 2:16:13 PM CST

    Oh I need to see Appaloosa too

    by kungfuhustler84

  • Dec 30, 2008 2:23:24 PM CST

    Hawaiian, Burn After Reading is on there!

    by kungfuhustler84

    NUMBAH SIX!

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  • Dec 30, 2008 2:24:45 PM CST

    Haven't seen the Hammer

    by kungfuhustler84

    but I of course will on your recommendation. I saw the Visitor with my mom, and just thought it was okay. Good but not great.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 2:27:28 PM CST

    Danny, I hope you understand now

    by kungfuhustler84

    there are quite a few movies I need to see before I can truly be happy with the list. I just had a bad memory and those were the first three that came to mind because I keep seeing them everywhere. If you ask me, In Bruges has just as much, if not more of a chance of making the list as Let the Right One In. I just wanna watch these movies! Plus, the year's not even over yet!

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  • Dec 30, 2008 2:29:09 PM CST

    Fix: HAVE a bad memory

    by kungfuhustler84

    It's awful. I don't know what I'd do without my girlfriend to remind me to do things all the time. I have the brain of an 80 year old man with the attention span of an eight year old.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 2:32:05 PM CST

    Node

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I agree, they had some outlandish moments, but I think watching faces melt as spirits fly around them was still somehow more "real" than the stuff Danny and I had issues with in KOTCS. Look, I can't really explain it myself, but watching a fridge bounce around in a nuclear explosion reminded me of Wile E. Coyote while a shootout in a Tibetan bar was more like the Cagney and Bogart movies I grew up with as a kid. Chilled monkey brains is childish, but it was also fresh. Seeing a guy get whacked repeatedly in the balls was last funny when Macaulay Culkin did it.You loved, you had fun, that's cool. To Danny and I the whole thing felt uninspired. There wasn't a single sequence, to me at least, that was as creative and thrill a minute as the truck convoy chase, the mine car chase or the "Junior, they got us" chase.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 2:34:59 PM CST

    Indeed you do, Kung Fu

    by hawaiian organ donor

    In that case, chuck In Bruges on there and we're off to the races.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 2:40:43 PM CST

    the stuff of a 2008 list

    by jonah echo

    I need to see Button and then I'm out.

    But here are 20 films for consideration right now, on no order:

    Wendy and Lucy

    The Wrestler

    The Dark Knight

    The Good, the Bad, the Weird

    Wall-E

    Speed Racer

    Burn After Reading

    The Visitor

    Man on Wire

    The Fall

    Slumdog Millionaire

    The Chaser

    Red Cliff pt. 1

    Black Balloon

    Happy Go-Lucky

    Tell No One

    Let the Right One In

    Timecrimes

    The Band's Visit

    Kung-Fu Panda

    Hellboy 2

    I also need to still see Hammer.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 2:41:37 PM CST

    oops.guess that's 21.

    by jonah echo

    Oh well, will cut them down later.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 2:46:32 PM CST

    Interestingly enough

    by hawaiian organ donor

    It was one of the best years AND worst years for movies for me in a while. Very difficult to make a top ten list but zero effort to make a worst of list.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 2:50:35 PM CST

    Aw FUCK Slumdog!

    by kungfuhustler84

    That needs a spot on the top five for sure. Probably the most visceral experience I had at the movies all year.Okay I'm gonna put it at number five, bumping everything after that up one. Sorry Kung fu Panda, looks like you get to be an honorable mention now.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 2:51:41 PM CST

    I'll watch Mongol tonight

    by kungfuhustler84

    nd let you know what I think tomorrow HOD.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 2:55:45 PM CST

    as I said a thousand times regarding KOTCS....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ......concept and execution are two completely separate things. You can have a cartoony concept (like falling from a plane in a raft) but if executed with a clever, real world approach-- it works. KOTCS failed because it upped the ante of cartoony not only in concept, but also in shit CG execution. This is probably the 100th time I've said this, and I swear it will be my last-- but take the Jeep going down the waterfall scene for example. Its not the idea that is absolute shit, its the way it looks. If The Berg had the intelligence to use a little bit of the 200 mill budget on something other than powdering Shia's shnoze, he could have dropped an actual Jeep down an actual waterfall and filmed it for fucking real like the good old days. Put fucking dummies inside and launch that motherfucker off a 300 foot drop. I guaranfuckingtee half the people that despised that sequence would have complained.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 2:56:44 PM CST

    So it's

    by kungfuhustler84

    10. Rambo9. Be Kind Rewind8. The Dark Knight7. Burn After Reading6. Wall-E5. Slumdog Millionaire4. Red Cliff Part 13. Speed Racer2. The Fall1. Synecdoche, New YorkStill have yet to see Mongol, TGTBTW, Doomsday, The Band's Visit, Let the Right One In, In Bruges, Benjamin Button, The Wrestler, or Appaloosa, all of which I was planning to see, but never had either the time yet, or the money, to see. I need to work on that while I have free time.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 2:57:05 PM CST

    Kung

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Your list is one of the more interesting I've seen. I think its cool you're a snobby elitist University English major on the surface yet deep down you like to watch people get blown the fuck up as much as the next guy.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 3:00:01 PM CST

    Actually, I really loved Hellboy II

    by kungfuhustler84

    but I rewatched it the other night, and it's good fun, but not as great the second time around. Still, it probably deserves a spot on the top ten for being so inspiring to me as an aspiring filmmaker.Damn, guess I need to just wait and think this through more before I post another list.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 3:07:16 PM CST

    Jeez Danny

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I like the 'splosions too. My list is about half pure Hollywood, half independent.But it's probably going to change a lot as soon as I check out the year end and foreign stuff.Kung Fu, you'll like Mongol. It was on my top ten earlier in the year but has since been bumped off to an honorable mention.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 3:07:43 PM CST

    Snobby elitist?

    by kungfuhustler84

    I think that applies to you more than anyone else in the group Danny. You're constantly criticizing others for their taste and looking down on them for not liking the same movies as you. I'm pretty confident in my intelligence and taste in cinema, but I'm no elitist. I'm enthusiastic about good movies. Hell, you'd be hard pressed to find a bigger fan of 70s kung-fu movies. I wouldn't exactly call that a genre to be snobby about. Sure, we clash a lot, but usually it's not over your taste in movies; it's your logic and reasoning for liking or disliking movies that just baffles me. You seem to be more of the "WAH! this needs more recognition, but nobody likes it so I have to love it!" variety than anyone else I have known.And I don't think being an English major makes me a snob or should serve as a point of resentment. I took on that major because I felt it would provide me with the most education and possible opportunities in the kind of jobs I am really interested in and jonesin' for. I have learned a lot in college, and in joining my new education with a childlike glee for fun movies, I have found a new appreciation for all kinds of movies. So please chill on that stuff, and don't judge me. That's some elitist nonsense that's really unnecessary on here.Anyway, back to the movie talk. Actually, I need to go renew my license. Catch you later guys. Happy listing!

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  • Dec 30, 2008 3:10:10 PM CST

    crap..I forgot In Bruges

    by jonah echo

    that very well might make the top ten. Haunting and funny, with great cinematography. Terrific film. Fookin elephants!

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  • Dec 30, 2008 3:14:23 PM CST

    Kung

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I didn't mean it like that. I meant you could be seen like that but you're really not. I'm not just referring to your taste in films obviously, but also your taste in Literature.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 3:15:59 PM CST

    and what the fuck....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ....why do people still say I criticize those that don't agree with me? When the fuck do I do that? I don't remember ever saying "What?! You don't like Miami Vice?!! Probably because you're a DUMB FUCK!" I criticize and insult, but not because someone doesn't agree with me.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 3:17:34 PM CST

    danny, whats your list look like?

    by jonah echo

    did Bodacious Bubble Butt Barbecue make the cut?

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  • Dec 30, 2008 3:19:05 PM CST

    *tugs on collar*

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Damn, it just got hot in here. Danny, I see what you're saying. I've been saying inflammatory stuff all day and got away clean.And I understood what you meant. Kung Fu does come across as a guy with more refined tastes than myself. I liked a LOT of cinematic crap this year. And frankly, I wouldn't expect anyone but myself, not even Stallone, to have Rambo on a top ten list.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 3:19:40 PM CST

    Jonah

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I seriously don't think I saw enough new films in 08 to make a list.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 3:20:32 PM CST

    not even Stallone

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Hehehehe...

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  • Dec 30, 2008 3:21:12 PM CST

    really? you seem pretty up to date most of the time..

    by jonah echo

    one of my most entertaining film experiences this year was Cloverfield though, as odd as that sounds. We all went to it dead tired, and the audience was one of those rough and tumble late-show crowds that freaked out the whole time. It enhanced the chaotic nature of the whole thing.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 3:24:51 PM CST

    ...this is probably my Top 5.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood


    1. Speed Racer

    2. Quantum Of Solace

    3. Nick And Nora's Infinite Playlist

    4. The Dark Knight

    5. Cloverfield

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  • Dec 30, 2008 3:26:06 PM CST

    a few months back I would have said Iron Man....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    But that thing lost a whole lot of charm at home. And for some reason the score bothers the fuck out of me now.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 3:26:18 PM CST

    Danny, I liked all those movies..

    by jonah echo

    Only Speed and DK enough for a best of list, but Nick and Nora was a nice surprise and Cloverfield is just a great giant monster flick. I need to rewatch that one soon.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 3:28:34 PM CST

    my list is weird....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...because I generally only go the theater to see "FUN" sort of movies. I rarely watch the awards/dramatic films until many years later. So people could look at my list and think I'm a fucking idiot because I don't have Benjamin Button or Gran Turino on my list. I just didn't see any of those.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 3:28:52 PM CST

    I wondered when QoS would make a list

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I'm with Danny. I can only give a top ten of stuff I've seen so far but I still need to see a good 20 movies before I can give an honest opinion. Otherwise, I'm not giving a lot of great filmmakers their fair shake.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 3:30:33 PM CST

    probably the only award film I'll see in the coming weeks....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...is Slumdog. Just because I'm a massive Boyle fan.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 3:49:05 PM CST

    holy shit. a guy in the Capone TB...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ....just said he felt that KOTCS worked as a direct sequel to Raiders if you disregard the other 2. muhahahahaha

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  • Dec 30, 2008 3:52:55 PM CST

    HOD

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    You've seen all those damn movies? Damn. You need to hook it up with a pack of Oscar contenders. Are they good quality? I'm gonna mail you out a pack of DVDs to keep the dream alive.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 3:56:00 PM CST

    No, I haven't seen them all

    by hawaiian organ donor

    But Whiny makes it sound like the year was a write off. But.....I will get some out to you soon. Waiting years to see Oscar bait is unacceptable Mr. Dickblood.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 3:58:05 PM CST

    HOD

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I know. I just don't like to contribute financially to Oscar Bait Campaigns.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 6:03:18 PM CST

    Anyone seen

    by series7

    Blindness? Is got the Glove in it with an eye patch.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 6:36:19 PM CST

    Oh I get what you're saying now Danny, sorry

    by kungfuhustler84

    Hahaha literary taste. Yeah, I like the classics, and I probably read more books than I see movies every year, but I like to think I still keep a balance. For example, I recently finished reading Cormac McCarthy's The Road, which won the Pulitzer Prize (not why I picked it up, I have always loved McCarthy), which was so good I'm sure it will be taught to my kids in high school, as well as a collection of Bukowski's poetry (I still am 100% positive that every member of the C of C would love a majority of his work, so check it out if you ever get the chance). But I also picked up a trade paperback of the comic book "The Umbrella Academy" which is like Hellboy meets the Victorian era, merged with a 50s sci-fi sensibility. For every serious novel or collection of poetry I grab, I pick up like a dozen or more comics. Serious, in depth, goofy, ultra-violent, tragic, comedic, Victorian, or post-apocalyptic, I love it all!

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  • Dec 30, 2008 6:39:41 PM CST

    Okay what HOD and Danny said

    by kungfuhustler84

    was basically what I was trying to get across earlier. There's just more movies I would like to see before I can really be happy with "the list." Not just the first three I named.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 7:01:48 PM CST

    Blindness looked good.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Dec 30, 2008 7:02:35 PM CST

    EVERY SELF RESPECTING MEMBER OF THE COC NEEDS TO WATCH THIS!

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    http://tinyurl.com/6vopvb GOD BLESS AMERICA!

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  • Dec 30, 2008 7:29:35 PM CST

    Blindness is good.

    by hobocode

  • Dec 30, 2008 7:31:58 PM CST

    I wanna see Blindness

    by kungfuhustler84

    The book is great. A friend told me the movie wasn't as good, but I still wanna see for myself.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 7:42:51 PM CST

    Fuck

    by series7

    I guess I really haven't seen that many films in 08? I need to be given a buttload of money so I can stop busting my ass for nothing and watch movies and read comics all day.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 7:51:19 PM CST

    Nice video Danny

    by the milf lover

    I guess when you said 'self respecting', that didnt include anyone IN the actual video hahaha, what a bunch of stupid pathetic dumbasses...

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  • Dec 30, 2008 7:53:57 PM CST

    Damn I also

    by series7

    Need to rememeber what I saw this year. I know my top 4. 1). Wall-E 2). Speed Racer 3). The Fall 4). Rambo I think that really is about all I can say. I mean I want to put Hellboy 2 on the list, but I feel like I need to watch it again. Man what the fuck did I watch this year?

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  • Dec 30, 2008 7:58:38 PM CST

    I have trouble rounding out my top 10

    by the milf lover

    Top 5-6 is easy, it's filling out the remaining slots that's bugging me. I havent seen as many movies this year as I wanted. I enjoyed movies like Incredible Hulk and Transporter 3 and others, but it doesnt mean they're top 10 worthy.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 7:59:33 PM CST

    Oh and

    by series7

    Topic Thunder. Looks like Red Cliff works in my DVD player. I'm going to watch it. I always find it hard to come up with a best of list, but I do enjoy picking apart other peoples. I do know the worst movie of the year for me was Choke. I wish people would be more personal with their best of/worst rather then implying that what they put it is the Koran of list and everyone should follow it.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 8:02:53 PM CST

    Yeah I've missed a bunch in the second half

    by series7

    Of 08. Moving and moving in with someone puts a damper on what I can watch and watching time. Really the only movie I've seen this winter is Slumdog. Really want to see Milk, Wrestler, Transporter 3, Delgo, Punisher, Let the Right One and W. Hahahah W. I guess everyone has already forgotten about that one, remember when it came out? Everyone said that Brolin was a shoe in for Best Actor. I don't think its been nominated for anything.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 8:04:18 PM CST

    OK

    by series7

    I'm gonna finally watch Red Cliff, be back later.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 8:06:37 PM CST

    Thats a hell of a Top 4, Series......I like it.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Dec 30, 2008 8:07:24 PM CST

    Red Cliff was great

    by the milf lover

    but some of the quieter parts of it bored me. Part 2 looks like it's gonna be awesome, I'm looking forward to it.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 8:23:06 PM CST

    Red Cliff

    by series7

    Ok break time while the lady uses the phone. SEE WHAT I MEAN? Ok like I'm only 20 minutes into it and I am fucking confused as hell. What the fuck happened in the like the first 5 minutes, it felt like the movie jumped 20 minutes are something? Also I am not really sure about all the CGI. Some of the fights have been bad ass but a lot of the stuff looks like something you would see on History Channel special. We'll see how the rest of the movie plays.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 8:24:59 PM CST

    Danny

    by series7

    After I saw each of those movies, I told myself that that movie was going to be my favorite movie of the year. Its after the second viewing I've decided which ones I liked the best.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 8:28:20 PM CST

    I saw The Wrestler this afternoon

    by the milf lover

    Not exactly something I'd watch many times, but a very good movie, Rourke is just incredible in it. All the wrestling stuff was really well handled, as well as the relationship with Marisa Tomei (she is really hot, but not too keen on her tats and pierced look, didnt suit her at all). The subplot with his daughter wasnt as good, great acting by Rachel Woods, but the 'I hate you, now I almost love you, now I really hate you again' arc needed more time to be fleshed out to really work.
    The 'cheap documentary' feel of the camera work really bugged me at times, and the 'back of head' view was distracting. For a small human story like this I think straight up regular camera shots would have worked just fine.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 8:36:17 PM CST

    The back of the head shots made The Wrestler for me.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    It put you in their world. When Randy is waiting to go out in the ring and he hears the crowd pumped up or Tomei waiting backstage at the strip joint, I fucking loved those moments. To me-- the photography was the strongest thing about the film. Either that or that rockin' soundtrack.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 8:51:47 PM CST

    Quiet Riot rules, that's for sure

    by the milf lover

    Not a big Crue or Cinderella fan however... haha. If it had been a movie about a current wrestler instead of an 80s one, the soundtrack would've been all cheap Linkin Park nu metal bullshit.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 9:03:53 PM CST

    YEY!

    by series7

    Now I get to go watch indoor soccer. PAUSE movie.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 9:05:18 PM CST

    DBlood

    by series7

    Did you like QoS that much? I had totally forgot about that film. I really didn't care for it. Too Bourne wannabe. Should've given Campbell more money or whatever he wanted.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 9:07:26 PM CST

    Also

    by series7

    American Teen, fucking terrible movie. Especially the main weird girl. Just soo fucking stupid. Also that geeky kid, it was like a documentary on a school shooter. Especially how later on he wanted to lift weights and get big, and the final pictures they showed of him.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 9:08:13 PM CST

    Oh my ARTSY

    by series7

    Pick of the year for 08 goes to Control, I think that was this year? Oh well where playing by Harry rules, it counts what year you saw it.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 9:10:42 PM CST

    The Wave

    by series7

    A German movie. Anyone seen this?

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  • Dec 30, 2008 9:19:37 PM CST

    Red Cliff haters, let me remind you

    by kungfuhustler84

    of all the CRAZY AWESOME SHIT in this movie:1. Guan Yu- bearded badass who owns all our asses. This is the man we mortals will answer to first in the next life, especially the C of C (he's the guy with the spear looking thing with a huge sword-machete thing attached to the end)2. Zhao Yun- the general with the ponytail and the spear. This guy basically defines everything cool about the Shu forces. he's noble, brave, heroic, and more wicked-cool than a fucking Jedi. The scene where he has a baby strapped to his back and is STILL badass. That scene totally reminded me of Lone Wolf and Cub, which is definitely a good thing.3. Horse slaughter- the shit that happens to horses in this movie is crazy. First, Guan Yu tackles a horse to the ground. Why? He's pissed, and when Guan Yu's pissed, he will tackle livestock until he is no longer cranky. Then Sun Shang Xiang knocks out a horse with her fingers. Why? Guan Yu was pissed and she wanted to help. To top it off, this movie has Zhuge Liang, one of the greatest minds in Chinese history, playing midwife to a fucking horse!! That's awesome. If I could have Zhuge Liang deliver my wife's baby, you can bet your ass I would.4. Battle Formations- I am convinced the Shu army would have mopped the floor with the 300 Spartans with that turtle formation thing. That scene for me, just defines epic.The opium sitar-thing duel- what could be cooler than two legendary military strategists and philosophers getting totally high off of some good opium and having a jam session on their Chinese string-instrument-thingies? Nothing, that's what!There's lots of other cool stuff. That's just the tip of the iceberg. Just thought you guys needed a reminder of what makes Red Cliff one of the cooler movies of the year. Of course, I have been a fan of the Romance of the three Kingdoms story (and the Dynasty Warriors games) since middle school, so I may have a little bias here.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 9:21:14 PM CST

    the sitar-jam thing

    by kungfuhustler84

    is supposed to be number five. But I am tired and it's been a long day.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 9:23:49 PM CST

    so, Kung Fu, does that mean

    by the milf lover

    that you want a chinese guy to stick his arm up your wife's neden and pull babies out? Just because Zhuge Liang can do it with a horse doesnt mean he's good with humans...

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  • Dec 30, 2008 10:18:13 PM CST

    Nonsense, Milf

    by kungfuhustler84

    you don't know my lady-friend.Just kidding. Just kidding.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 10:42:38 PM CST

    am I reading that wrong KungFu?

    by the milf lover

    or are you channeling Equinas?

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  • Dec 30, 2008 10:51:36 PM CST

    yeah, I loved Quantum.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I can give a fuck about Bourne movies. They did not invent hand-held action or the spy genre. Quantum has some beautiful shot artistic violence. That opera scene was fucking gold. Campbell is good but he is a bit too traditional for me. I like this new take.

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  • Dec 30, 2008 11:06:38 PM CST

    BEST MOVIE OF 2009: CRANK 2!!!

    by the milf lover

    they just put up the trailer, and it looks absolutely fucking ridiculous awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Dec 30, 2008 11:11:12 PM CST

    it looks insanely bad ass.....STATHAM = GOD

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Dec 31, 2008 2:32:23 AM CST

    HitFix sucks

    by the milf lover

    I just went to check the site out for the first time. Wow, you guys were right, it's a really shitty looking site. Even crappy Blogspot sites look tons better than HitFix does.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 3:21:41 AM CST

    It's the end of the year!

    by franklin t marmoset

    I tried to do a top ten for the year, but there were only five that really stuck in my mind. That means I'm either too fussy or I didn't see enough films.5: Be Kind Rewind4: In Bruges3: Wall E2: Iron Man1: Hellboy IIAlso, honourable mention to The Incredible Hulk, which was not a great film but was exactly the kind of goofy, enjoyable nonsense I wanted from a film about the Hulk.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 3:36:06 AM CST

    Films I have yet to see that might have made the list

    by franklin t marmoset

    Burn After Reading, Benjamin Button, Lakeview Terrace, Milk, Pineapple Express, Quantum Of Solace, Vicky Cristina Barcelona, W, The Wrestler, Zack & Miri Make A Porno.Yes, I definitely did not see enough films this year.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 4:49:54 AM CST

    Okay, I have to make a New Year's resolution

    by franklin t marmoset

    Stop rambling to myself on the Ain't It Cool News.It'll have to be that, because I am not fucking giving up smoking. I will keep smoking until I am like that I Am Legend guy, the one remaining smoker in all the world while all the vampire/zombie people are gathered in masses outside my house, moaning and groaning: "What about the secondary smoke? Don't you care about your health? Think about how much money you're wasting!"I AM SMOKER!

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  • Dec 31, 2008 4:56:42 AM CST

    Another New Year's resolution

    by franklin t marmoset

    I resolve to stop watching Gilmore Girls.I will do this after next Tuesday, when Gilmore Girls ends. After that, no more.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 5:01:11 AM CST

    Worst film of the year

    by franklin t marmoset

    I did a pretty good job this year of avoiding a lot of crap, so I suppose my worst film of the year is Speed Racer, which did nothing for me at all. I know some people liked it, but I found it incredibly unengaging, and I wish the Wachowskis would learn to dramatise their ideas rather than have characters standing around monologuing about them. Isn't that supposed to be the point of stories?

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  • Dec 31, 2008 5:05:14 AM CST

    Favourite Rihanna video of the year?

    by franklin t marmoset

    That one where she's lolling about on a bed in her bra.Fuck knows what it's called.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 5:10:12 AM CST

    Favourite argument with my junkie neighbour?

    by franklin t marmoset

    The one where he threatened to take my clothes off the dryer and throw them over the balcony, and then I told him if he did that I would throw him over the balcony.He hasn't spoken to me since.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 5:15:10 AM CST

    Favourite AICN invention of the year?

    by franklin t marmoset

    Le Hulque.Well done, JPT. That one still makes me laugh.Also honourable mention to Jarv for A*L*I*E*N*S.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 5:17:33 AM CST

    Favourite new utterly absurd AICN catchphrase?

    by franklin t marmoset

    FUCKING YOUR EYEBALLS IN 2009!

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  • Dec 31, 2008 5:21:39 AM CST

    Favourite thing my 9 year-old nephew has started saying?

    by franklin t marmoset

    "I'll cut you!"

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  • Dec 31, 2008 5:35:08 AM CST

    Favourite new gizmo of the year?

    by franklin t marmoset

    The digital video recorder I bought last month.Amazing invention.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 5:42:26 AM CST

    Favourite time I decided to stop pissing about and do some work?

    by franklin t marmoset

  • Dec 31, 2008 7:42:33 AM CST

    Top 20

    by jonah echo

    Hey guys, caught up with both Ben Button and The Hammer last night in a grueling late night of film.

    And I decided to just do a top 20 because there are too many good things to pass over.

    I'll do them individually and then put up the whole list at the end.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 8:00:32 AM CST

    What did you think of The Hammer, Jonah?

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I've got Slumdog Millionaire, The Wrestler, Benjamin Button, Let The Right One In and Tell No One sitting at home now so I'm going to plow through everything this weekend. On Monday I should be prepared to put up a top ten and honorable mention list.I also have Ip Man and hope to find time for that this weekend as well.I was reading Todd's reviews over at Twitch yesterday. He really skewered some of my favorite Asian flicks. But it's good to know there's someone out there who appreciates them as much as some of us do.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 8:13:11 AM CST

    20. The Hammer

    by jonah echo

    The Hammer- HOD and Xi, you were both right on the money with this one. I used to listen to Corolla when he was on Love Line all those years ago, and kept tuning in because of the oddball charm he brought to it. When he showed up on the mtv version and then later The Man Show, I had no interest and didn’t watch. I expected he had gone the way of other venue-specific performers who branched out into other media and made nuisances of themselves. It is likely I would have never seen this unless you had clued me into it. And I would have been missing out.

    This is truly an indie film in every sense, and yet it isn’t “arty” or inaccessible at all. It’s a full-on crowd pleaser, and what’s more is it’s not a stupid or smarmy comedy. It has it’s share of intelligence and the thing that stumped me and my wife: it’s a genuinely NICE movie. It’s got a big heart, and it shows that Corolla does too.

    Strangely, the parts of this that won me over were the blue collar
    handyman segments. Jerry’s assistant was great, and it helped that Corolla has surrounded himself with interesting characters being played by interesting, but little seen actors.

    There has been a bit said about The Wrestler being the “working class everyman” movie, but I don’t think it’s accurate. Randy the Ram in that film, while a real and honest depiction, is probably not the average working class guy most will associate with. All of his problems are of his own making, and in part because he could never reconcile his career as a wrestler with the rest of his life. With Jerry Ferro, we see a man that was good in two arenas, left one behind and finds himself facing that possibility that he could go back, do it again, and find a new level of success after it passed him by. And the shoestring, homemade feel of the film lifts it out of a cinematic underdog fantasy and makes it seem real. Although, it is definitely conceived in that vein of underdog fantasy, and Corolla’s character is a great underdog.

    Saw this last night, so it may grow or sink in my estimation, but after a single viewing I think it deserves a place on this list and it deserves to be seen by as many as possible. I hope Corolla finds his niche in films because I think he has more charm and confidence than most of the sought after “comedians” making big budget pictures right now.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 8:25:24 AM CST

    Ip Man? Did I hear Ip Man?

    by kungfuhustler84

    WHAAAAA???

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  • Dec 31, 2008 8:32:00 AM CST

    19. Paranoid Park

    by jonah echo

    Gus Van Sant as a filmmaker and an artist has never really done it for me. I really liked Goodwill Hunting when it was released, but I haven’t really revisited it since. Gerry is probably his oddest and most trying film, but until now it’s the one I liked the most. Milk is also a solid film, with a good performance by Penn and a strong sense of purpose. I’m just not sure if it would be as critically acclaimed if it weren’t so appropriately timed. For me, this is the Van Sant film that stands out. Which is kind of odd since when I first saw it I didn’t think much of it.

    It was slow, almost glacial at times, and it’s POV and tactics for dramatizing the adolescent high school existence wasn’t just unconventional, but potentially at odds with the “feel” of teenage living. And then, when it was over I couldn’t stop thinking about it. I watched it again. And again.

    I was a teacher of high school for a few years, and I think this film does something that few films really manage. It captures that drifting, flotsam jetsam headspace of teenagers that seems elusive to most everyone else outside the age group. The way days and decisions run into each other, until you realize you meant to have a plan, but no plan showed up and some time later you are experiencing consequences to actions you weren’t aware you had even made a decision about. The tragic act at the center of this movie is perfectly realized, and it haunts the whole thing, but for a long time it feels more terrible to the viewer than it does to the young protagonist. Or at least, it seems that way.

    And with this film, Van Sant managed to marry the artistic and obscure to the accessible and relatable in such a way that when I showed this film to my teenage cousin, whose friends and lifestyle were once the same as the protagonists, he loved it and never felt the film was reaching above his head. Great work Gus.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 8:42:07 AM CST

    You heard right, Kung Fu

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Ip Man fresh oout of the oven. Surprised me to discover it last night too. I was just about to switch off for the night and decided to take a quick peek at my favorite source of Asian movies and there it was, beckoning me with a most lusty grin.Jonah, you are the man. I'm glad you gave The Hammer a whirl. The guy who played his sidekick was his actual friend and co-worker when Carolla worked construction before making it big. It was things like that that made the movie feel more "real" than any other movie I watched this year.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 8:45:53 AM CST

    18. Hellboy 2: The Golden Army

    by jonah echo

    I love creatures. I love mythology and fables. I love superheroes when they are done well. I really dig Mignola’s Hellboy. So, there wasn’t much chance that I wouldn’t at least like this one. The fact that I love it isn’t just due to my predisposition towards the material though. I think Del Toro is a cherished and recognized name in geekdom because of the love and passion he has for what he does. This movie works because of attention to detail, and just utter immersion into the sensibility and ideas that he is playing with.

    That sequence where the city is attacked by a forest God is like it was lifted straight out of a Miyazaki movie.


    HB himself is like a fantasy version of those hardboiled heroes of ages past. He’s Bogie with a big red hand. Tough as nails, emotionally stunted on the outside, and full of heart and gusto on the inside. I loved the story. Married to a big epic fantasy is a story about how nothing lasts, and instead of protecting it we are depleting it without any thought as to why or if we should preserve it.

    I enjoyed the fact that Abe Sapien is fleshed out here, and gets his own love story. Johan Krauss is a great addition. That you can have big pulpy moments like the Troll Market bested by a scene where HB and Abe drink Tecate and butcher “Can’t smile without you” illustrates perfectly why I love this movie.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 8:58:26 AM CST

    Jonah

    by kungfuhustler84

    don't forget that Luke Goss was a totally badass and simultaneously sympathetic villain.And those moves! Some of the best martial arts action sequences in an American movie since I don't know how long.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 8:59:33 AM CST

    quite right hustler..

    by jonah echo

    it was wrong of me to exclude Goss. Without him, the film would have been much less.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 9:11:52 AM CST

    I love that Capone TB

    by hawaiian organ donor

    God bless him for being such a douche and allowing me to unleash hell. It's been a while since I was able to let me inner a-hole out and that Capone TB is almost as good as a political one.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 9:14:57 AM CST

    Okay

    by kungfuhustler84

    off to attempt to renew my license again. Yesterday the line was too long when I got there, and some obnoxious teenagers were annoying the hell out of me with their stupid gossip, so I just had to leave.Looking forward to more Jonah-mini reviews when I get back!

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  • Dec 31, 2008 9:20:49 AM CST

    I like seeing Gus get some love this year....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...both Paranoid and Milk look awesome.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 9:22:40 AM CST

    17. Time Crimes

    by jonah echo


    Something my wife and I have been doing since last year is slowly working our way through the original Outer Limits. Unlike the Twilight Zone, OL always tried to base it’s intricate or shocking story around some piece of science or science-fiction. No episodes about genies or random magic. It was often rooted in something technological or cosmic and man’s moral response to it. Not that TZ never had eps like that, or that OL was necessarily superior. I just appreciated that approach. Anyway, my wife and I have discussed how it would be great to see someone take an OL-style plot and update it and stretch it into a full-length film. And people have done it before. Essentially, last year’s The Mist was like a full length OL. Dark City is probably one of the best examples to date of that same phenomena. Now we have this Spanish film that is probably the best example(not because it’s better than Mist or DC) because it does what OL did, and better with a budget most likely just as modest as that original show.

    I don’t want to touch the plot much, other than to say it has a deceptively simple hook, and the suspense and intrigue start almost immediately and are still spiraling as the film’s final scene fades to black. What I love about this is that it’s easy to telegraph the time travel plot, not because it’s poorly written, but because it is laid out with clarity and care by the director. This isn’t a film where we are trying to piece it all together later. The suspense and depth of the film come from watching the main character piece it together, and more importantly grasp the implications of his actions as the film progresses. I also like that the hero isn’t designed as a dummy who needs it all explained. Once he grasps the idea that the 1950’s-esque machine he has traveled through is a time portal, he pays attention to how things change and makes efforts to correct them. And in that, seeing the nature of the man come to the surface, is where the Hitchcockian thrills of the piece come to light.


    I love the photography of the film, the acting, the expressiveness of the main character’s face, and the choice of a rural, forested setting for a film about technology and sci-fi. It’s a breath of fresh air, and a sci-fi flick that I think holds some good replay value. If you guys get a chance, see it. It earns it’s place alongside the very best time travel sci-fi has to offer.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 9:32:31 AM CST

    I was reading about Time Crimes yesterday

    by hawaiian organ donor

    That sounds like it should be right up my alley. Hopefully it washes the bad taste of Primer out of my mouth.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 9:35:24 AM CST

    Watched new X-files film last night.

    by hobocode

    Yeesh. I've never seen worse acting out of Duchovny and Anderson. Cringe inducing.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 9:38:21 AM CST

    Cringe inducing?

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    No fucking way. Gillian was great in those hospital scenes with the kid. This coming from the guy that claims Shia to be a good actor? Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww FUCK!!!! Crank 2 will butt-fuck us all in 2009!

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  • Dec 31, 2008 9:46:03 AM CST

    gotta agree with the DANster on this..

    by jonah echo

    X Files 2 was a good film, and I thought the acting was good, though the script could have used some serious polish.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 9:47:16 AM CST

    Alright, that's it for ought-eight

    by franklin t marmoset

    I hope everyone has a great New Year's tonight.See you all in the ought-nine.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 9:50:05 AM CST

    the problem with X Files 2....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...was that it was just so damn simple. It seemed to be building toward something bigger-- but when it got there I was like "Thats it?!" There is nothing wrong with the acting or dialogue. I agree, it could have just used a rewrite or two.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 9:54:57 AM CST

    I'll give you Anderson.

    by hobocode

    She was solid in some parts, but Duchovney phoned it in completely. Every time he opened his mouth it was a shitty delivery. Shia acts circles around him. XF2 was not a good film. It was dull as dirt and poorly directed by Carter. Jesus that last scene after the credits made me want to drive a screwdriver through my temple.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 10:00:14 AM CST

    yeah Duchovny seemed a little bored....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...but he didn't really have shit to do. And now that I think back on it, he always seems bored in X Files episodes. The only way you can get that guy to liven up now is to shake a stripper's ass in front of his face.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 10:02:26 AM CST

    its incredible you call what Shia does-- acting....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...he's been playing the same bumbling douche bag since he was 12. He may have perfected it-- but that doesn't mean he is a talented actor.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 10:11:05 AM CST

    Series 7....this made me laugh...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Some guy posted this on the Capone TB.
    "The Pixar movie model is so ridiculously one note. Toy Story: toys who act like... PEOPLE! And they overcome adversity too! Bug life: Bugs who act like... People! Monsters inc.: Monsters who act like... PEOPLE!. and they overcome adversity! Finding Nemo: Fish who act like... PEOPLE! and they overcome adversity! Cars: Cars who act like... PEOPLE! and they overcome adversity! Ratatouille: Rats who act like... PEOPLE! And they overcome adversity! Wall-E: Robots who act like... PEOPLE! and they overcome adversity! Psshh other than the incredibles they have just taken the successful business model of Toy Story and duplicated it with a new object to once again act like... PEOPLE!"

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  • Dec 31, 2008 10:18:22 AM CST

    16. The Chaser

    by jonah echo

    Ok, it’s relatively early in the countdown, but here is the second time I get to thank HOD for alerting my attention to a film of considerable impact and quality I wouldn’t have seen otherwise. And, while I’m at it, damn you HOD, for not preparing me more for this. I’m thinking I’m gonna watch a gritty cop drama about an ex-detective turned pimp hunting a killer, so I throw it on my computer at 1 a.m. in my darkened office and then suddenly the movie has me by the throat, face-down against the grimy green tiles, threatening to bash in my skull with a cattle hammer. So there I am, admiring the inexplicable 70’s fashions of modern day Korea, and the film’s gorgeous noir cinematography, and the crusty edges of the embittered main character, who didn’t just let his moral compass drift but smashed it to pieces the moment it failed him. The pimp has girls who start disappearing. We see the car, we see the man, right from the beginning. He looks like an average Korean. We know the girls are being abducted. At the start, the pimp doesn’t. He only knows he is short-handed, and sends out one of his remaining girls, who is severely sick with a cold but he makes her go anyway, unaware she has a little girl at home. On her way to the client, the pimp pieces evidence together(he used to be a detective) and realizes he has just sent her into the arms of the abductee, who he still believes is selling the girls. What’s actually going on in that house of his(if it’s his house at all) is far more horrible, and the intensity of the film makes Seven look like Kitt Kittridge.

    I don’t typically enjoy brutal films, but I do enjoy films that scare or thrill me, and no film in 2008 was more intense in this way than The Chaser. It’s remarkable how well we get to know the characters, even the killer, and how well sculpted the surrounding events are, establishing that the Korean justice system is seriously fubar. We fear for the girl trapped within the killer’s house, which isn’t even on the radar of the police department. We feel for the little girl who may have lost her mother permanently, and surprisingly, I was moved most by the prospect that a broken and failed man, fallen far from where he started, might make his way slowly back to the human race. And the emphasis in Chaser is on “race” as every moment is precious. The movie plays hard and harsh, and is even cruel, but never exploitative, and at the end, for all that’s been lost the last scenes ask us to consider what has been regained.

    Fantastic and chilling film. Also, special mention must be made of the actors playing both the detective/pimp and the killer. The former is great at not overplaying a man sidestepping his way back from the brink, and the latter is harrowing as a man who bunny-hopped across the brink, into the chasm and is systematically cataloging every fissure and crevasse of darkness he finds there.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 10:23:38 AM CST

    STRETS OF FIRE 2 -- ROAD TO HELL

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Holy shit...an unofficial Streets of Fire sequel?! http://tinyurl.com/54sxot

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  • Dec 31, 2008 10:28:24 AM CST

    Danny.

    by hobocode

    Jack Nicholsen, Deniro, and Pacino all play the same character in every film as well. Even nicholson's joker was Jack.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 10:29:06 AM CST

    Shia was great in Eagle Eye.

    by hobocode

    Funeral scene man.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 10:56:30 AM CST

    15. The Band's Visit

    by jonah echo

    It seems like the quality of films in 2008 was down from 2007, but when I started making this list I realized that it isn’t the case. When I saw The Band’s Visit last March I fully expected this to clear the top ten easily, but here it is down at 15. But what a film it is.

    Anyone who appreciates quiet and sincere films that savor their characters will no doubt love this film. Plotwise, it’s simple, but the drama and the interest come completely from this set of characters interacting and overcoming both language barriers and cultural rifts as well as age divides and value divides to find a bond that will drive off loneliness. Crap, that sounds ponderous and heavy. Good thing the filmmakers do a better job with it, taking that theme and making an often jolly, light-hearted and occasionally quite poignant human story out of it. You could single out almost any actor here, and they would deserve accolades.

    Observation is, I personally think, the backbone of a good comedy. I think that the genius of The Band’s Visit is the way in which the screenplay observes countless human behaviors, ticks and foibles and then combines them into a film that hides them just well enough that the viewer gets to be delighted by them, and rewarded for observing them. It instills a sense of discovery into a movie that could be just described as “people hanging around” and yet it’s ten times more interesting than 80% of the action films released this year. If any of you haven’t seen it, make an effort to. It’s a sweet, gentle and funny film that isn’t afraid to just observe, instead of slinging you through some contrived “plot”.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 11:10:32 AM CST

    I must say, that Pixar thing was odd

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Hasn't EVERY CARTOON ANIMAL MOVIE EVER featured humanized animals overcoming adversity? That's like bashing Star Wars because it features spaceships and lasers.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 11:40:56 AM CST

    and Incredibles

    by jonah echo

    falls outside the categorization, presumably because it was about people. So are movies that center around people behaving like people, just a successful marketing strategy?

    That's just a clear case of being a hater.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 12:04:28 PM CST

    I agree Jonah

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Aren't 95% of ALL movies about the characters overcoming adversity/an obstacle? And is anyone going to watch a movie with cartoon animals where they aren't talking and acting like people? I mean, those movies do exist, but they're called documentaries.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 12:07:24 PM CST

    I think the guy was kidding a bit....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...but come on, Pixar films feel extremely formulaic. Moreso than any other animated studio that exists. You can say their films are better, sure. But they are not taking any risks whatsoever. Wall-E seemed like a risk when I first read the treatment a long while back, but as soon as I saw a trailer I was extremely disappointed and thats partially why I didn't see it in the theater. They always play it very safe and stick to the formula. And it works. They are geniuses.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 12:12:22 PM CST

    it's dopey...

    by jonah echo

    and all of these clump arguments-Indy 4, Pixar, Cameron-once the point is made, why is there still so much vitrol spewed over it?

    The only argument currently I felt compelled to join in was the Speed Racer one. I don't understand the hate. I can comprehend indifference, or dislike, but how is there such a large divide on this?

    I suspect a good group of the haters either didnt watch it or "barely" watched it, and deemed it awful. I said last December it would bomb and probably be the worst big budget movie of the year, but the second I saw it, I recanted completely. Seems odd to me that people still worship Tron but don't give this the time of day.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 12:14:47 PM CST

    Danny, Pixar may follow formula

    by jonah echo

    but I wouldnt call many of them safe, and the first act of Wall-E does follow formula...of a hard-scifi novel or old musical maybe, not exactly the safe choice for a big disney summer flick.

    And it's the way in which they are done that works, and sometimes the formula strengthens and reinforces them.

    I admit Bugs Life and Cars are pure formula, but Ratatouille and Wall-E and the rest were fresh in their own ways.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 12:16:30 PM CST

    But, I won't be seduced back into the Pixar ring..

    by jonah echo

    just see Wall-E, so we can debate it in an informed way. I dont expect you to like it, but at least see it so we can discuss it on the merits of the movie(or lack thereof).

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  • Dec 31, 2008 12:17:22 PM CST

    Jonah-- because thats what people do here.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    They repeat shit over and over. Whether its love or hate. Shit gets repeated. If we didn't say that same stuff, we would be out of topics within a month. You repeat praise for certain films constantly, such as Let The Right One In. Should you also follow your advice and let the topic die after the point is made the first time? No. Because we would run out of things to talk about very fast.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 12:26:01 PM CST

    not my point Danny

    by jonah echo

    Im talking about slugging it out over the same four topics. And if stuff like LTROI or Hammer is mentioned on here several times, it's usually in an effort to get people to see it, because lets face it, few of us have. And Im glad for that. Over half the movies I have on that list are a result of people talking them up here. But lets face it, the above topics arent even discussions about the movies anymore, they are discussions of well known and well voiced opinions.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 12:27:20 PM CST

    Besides, my point wasn't leveled at you..

    by jonah echo

    you usually mention something vitrolic to stir things up, but it's not like you stay in the topic once it's off to a sprint.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 12:27:48 PM CST

    well once these topics stop being entertaining....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...I'm sure they will stop being discussed. It might be a few years until that day comes though. Indy IV. Fuck. This will be pummeled relentlessly for the next decade.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 12:28:54 PM CST

    and since you and I have already had this conversation..

    by jonah echo

    before, I guess it's all fated forever. The snake eating it's tail for all eternity. Oh, and Ang Lee's Hulk is a MASTERPIECE.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 12:31:34 PM CST

    no, Indy IV will stop being pummeled

    by jonah echo

    once Lucas releases Indy V.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 12:45:16 PM CST

    I dont think it could get worse.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Chances are an Indy V would be better. Lucas has already hinted that Indy needs to go it alone a bit and seems to have backed down from his adoration of Mutt. Maybe he watched the movie for the 900th time and realized Shia looks like a queer in that Brando outfit, cruising up on a 2005 Harley.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 12:50:11 PM CST

    Danny..

    by jonah echo

    that kind of thinking is like the battered wife who says "After he branded me with the iron, he talked about reigning in his temper and that next time things won't get out of hand."

    JK.

    But Lucas has done this before. And apparently not even the Berg can course correct him anymore, so while it might be better, you have to consider this-Lucas loves his toys, so whatever Cameron does with Avatar, Lucas will want to redo, and Lucas can't really spot a good script anymore. So, with no one left to ensure quality, we are left with the hope that actual divine brilliance with strike Lucas. Seriously, there is no other safeguard left.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 12:55:37 PM CST

    Jonah if you take anything away from watching The Hammer

    by xiphos_2

    Remember, never hang a heavey bag with toggle bolts. Really who does that?

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  • Dec 31, 2008 1:03:07 PM CST

    Indy V?

    by hawaiian organ donor

    *shudders*I don't mind Pixar movies being formulaic. I don't think we realize that most of the movies we love follow a formula, time tested at that.But it's in the telling and presenting of the formula. The Hammer for instance. I've seen the underdog story at least 100 times in film. All 3 acts always follow the same build up and finish. But what sets one formula movie apart from the rest are characters we relate to and whether the movie reveals a love of the project by those involved.Monsters, Inc and Wall*E are both about two characters discovering each other and bonding and one having to rescue the other but one knew how to properly finish it's third act and one didn't.So formula isn't the problem. It's execution.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 1:15:29 PM CST

    Xi..yea...actually

    by jonah echo

    funny bit about the hammer is it was educational as well as entertaining. Gotta get it on dvd now.It's a perfect movie to show at a movie night, will blindside people. Now back to that list. Got off track.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 1:15:38 PM CST

    Execution is always the key

    by xiphos_2

    Badly thought out or presented ideas in movies are glaringly obvious, unless its Uwe Boll, then it's wondeful in its dopiness.Since Indy IV is back on the table for a moment I want o say this. I forgot about that movie about as fast as bad mexican food shoots out of my ass.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 1:21:38 PM CST

    Is anybody else working tonight?

    by xiphos_2

    No? so it's just me then? great, good times.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 1:22:20 PM CST

    Oh GAWD Danny, this is getting so boring

    by kungfuhustler84

    Pixar formulaic? Maybe like two of their films. That's it. I'm not saying anything else on the topic because Jonah and Hawaiian already made an excellent argument while you have yet to say anything to really sway anyone's opinion.And there's plenty of other stuff to talk about than Indy 4, Shia or Pixar. There is ALWAYS about a hundred other things to talk about.So yesterday, I saw a special edition of Blue Velvet for 15 dollars. I didn't buy it because I already got so many DVDs over the holidays, but I still really regret the decision. Do I need to go back and buy it or what?

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  • Dec 31, 2008 1:23:19 PM CST

    14. Frost/Nixon

    by jonah echo

    Ron Howard is a director whose work I don’t typically get excited for. It’s not that he usually makes bad movies. He usually makes “just o.k.” movies that I forget about shortly after seeing. I’m starting to get the feeling though that his strong suit is making films from well-documented and noted historical events. Twice now he has taken two moments, both televised, and created films that add almost as much interest as the original events. Apollo 13 was the first, and Frost/Nixon is the second.

    I love the immediacy this movie has, and how entertaining and thrilling it can be, even though what we are witnessing amounts to two people playing a game of verbal chess.

    The script is sharp, and when it embellishes the story (late night call from Nixon for instance) it earns by being plausible within the reality of the facts. Not necessarily something we believe, but it’s plausible enough for the suspension of disbelief. However, everywhere historical accuracy is needed, it seems to have been supplied.

    What totally sells the movie and makes it this high on the list are two things. First, the script gives us fully realized people in both Frost, Nixon and the entire camps on both side. Second, are the performances by Sheen and Langella. Langella himself is so good, that I forgot he once played Skeletor, and he makes Nixon almost admirable and tragic at the same time. Sheen is great too as David Frost.

    I liked Howard’s melding of the dynamics of television with the dynamics of the film medium. By the time you get to the interviews, you are actually absorbed in the movie. The film has inspired me to watch the actual interviews, all of them, and I think that’s a high compliment to the film itself that makes the history behind it feel relevant, immediate and important.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 1:24:29 PM CST

    Jonah

    by xiphos_2

    I'm glad to see you liked The Hammer, so that makes it three people. The ball, she's a rollin captain.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 1:26:30 PM CST

    If there is ever a HOD fest in NC..

    by jonah echo

    The Hammer needs to be the first movie shown. Followed by 5 repeat showings of Aliens with Danny tied in a room while the rest of us watch asian epics.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 1:31:05 PM CST

    Anyone read Masswawyrm's list?

    by kungfuhustler84

    What a piece of shit.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 1:31:54 PM CST

    I'm just talking about the top ten best list

    by kungfuhustler84

  • Dec 31, 2008 1:33:46 PM CST

    The part where he's talking about Speed racer

    by kungfuhustler84

    is pretty funny. I wish that happened to me. Nobody in my town has even seen it. The people that have didn't like it. Hopefully that will change soon now that I have the DVD to show off to the cool kids on the block.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 1:36:06 PM CST

    Okay I'm headed out again

    by kungfuhustler84

    Sorry if I was a little mean earlier Danny. The day is going to be long. Finally got my license again though.I'm headed off to the woods for a bit to shoot arrows and bb guns with my dad.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 1:43:22 PM CST

    I can't comment on Massa's list yet

    by hawaiian organ donor

    As I have yet to see Frost/Nixon, The Wrestler, Slumdog, Milk, Ben Button and Gran Turino. But of the 4 I have seen, most of those are making everyone's list so even though I disagree with each and every one of them, I can't fault him because those choices are standard operating procedure this year.In fact, I make you this guarantee right now. I will be the only person, critic or otherwise who doesn't include either Wall*E or TDK in my top ten.I liked that he gave Kung Fu Panda and Speed Racer heavy props though.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 1:44:50 PM CST

    And make no mistake about it, Jonah

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I'll throw a movie weekend this year. Whether or not people show up is a different matter.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 1:48:08 PM CST

    Burn after boring

    by series7

    No sir I did not like it. Yes I fell asleep and need to go back and watch the last 20 min or so. But I just didn't like it. Didn't think it was funny, the actors were all trying too hard to be weird or quirky, or they weren't trying hard enough? My lady friend was cracking up about Brad Pitt though? She said had it been anyone else though it wouldn't have been funny, I thought he was funny because he reminded me of a friend of mine. Maybe my mind will change after I see the end.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 1:48:50 PM CST

    If I can be there HOD..

    by jonah echo

    I will be.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 1:49:49 PM CST

    The look on Brad Pitt's character's face

    by jonah echo

    in BAR, right before he exits the film is priceless and one of the best things I saw him do, until Ben Button of course. That film is gold.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 1:50:04 PM CST

    whats wrong with Massa's Top 10?

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    It's actually one of the less Oscar Baiting lists on this site.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 1:52:08 PM CST

    and Massa gets respect from me...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...for the Worst 10 list. He basically gave the finger to Capone and spit at him.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 1:52:17 PM CST

    Funny thing about Wall-E

    by series7

    My mom is a special education teacher and she has a big spectrum of students right now from down syndrome to autistic kids. So she put on Wall-E for the usual teacher is lazy and its almost the holidays movie and she said that she had never seen her kids that well behaved and engaged in a movie, for the first 40 or so minutes. They didn't finish the movie by she said that they loved every minute of it all of them. She said that she is going to go back to the film and see if the kids retained any information or what. But she was just amazed of how it effected them.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 1:53:16 PM CST

    I understand, Series

    by hawaiian organ donor

    My brother said it was boring as hell and hated it. So I was expecting the worst. Color me shocked when within 5 minutes I was hooked and loving every minute of it.So like everything else this year, it's not for everyone.Jonah, my wife and I need to head to Korea sometime this year. She'll be a week or two longer than me. While she's gone, that's when I'll probably host it. Could be anytime from the spring to the fall though.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 1:54:14 PM CST

    Kung

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    You are extremely sensitive. I dunno which is worse-- your outbursts, or Hobo screaming "FUCK YOU" whenever someone mentions Indy IV. Jesus Christ. Post holiday season makes people sensitive.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 1:58:40 PM CST

    Loved his worst of list

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Massa nailed it bang on.The whole thing in BAR happened so quickly I can't tell if Pitt cracked a coy smile or was stunned. I know everyone hates the guy, but I enjoyed his role.Just occurred to me, that would be the worst movie ever made to Danny. The Coens, Clooney and Pitt? My oh my, that's his top three most hated right there.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 2:01:15 PM CST

    actually if you go on the impression the films give..

    by jonah echo

    Massa's top four are "oscar-baity" films. Now as it turns out, they are all, in one form or another, actually good/and or great movies. But none of them are unconventional choices. However, I'd rather someone be honest than unconventional. I think many of the films in my top ten will be the same as others, but some films like Revolutionary Road and Milk won't be there, even though I saw them. Because to me, they just weren't quite good enough.

    I think in this case Massa's list and his writing were particularly good, and I didnt really find myself disagreeing with him. However, the best part is that his writing, his ideas and the content of what he wrote was stronger than usually. He brought his A-game and Capone just slung a list together.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 2:01:46 PM CST

    Did we talk about the new Street Fighter trailer?

    by series7

    Looks meh, but man that actor who plays M. Bison I've always liked him and thought that he would make an awesome evil guy. He was the bad guy in the Rugby movie no one saw, but it was a pretty Hallmark movie event.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 2:03:18 PM CST

    BAR

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Yeah but Malcovich is in it, which earns it some points. But fuck....why would I pay to see Brad Pitt play himself?

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  • Dec 31, 2008 2:04:59 PM CST

    I don't think hustler

    by jonah echo

    is really being anymore volatile than you Danny. I'm not trying to argue here, but certainly the things you say are just as outsized and difinitive at times. I take that as part of your personality. You seem like you target people instead of ideas sometimes, although I don't really think that's what you are doing. You seem to like me just fine, so if you target something I say, like above, I don't take offense or what not. But I don't think this portrait of Kung-fu has a hot-head little kid reacting to nothing is apt either.

    Either way, it's all cool with me. Happy New Years dudes. Cool thing to consider, regardless of how crappy things have gotten, I didnt know any of you this time last year, and now I do. Cool indeed.

    Also, Series, thanks so much for your invitation. Unfortunately I didnt get around to looking at Zhura until yesterday, and the holiday has clearly passed. I was busy and out of town anyway. But thanks dude, you rock.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 2:05:21 PM CST

    I don't really dislike The Coens....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...they are just overrated as fuck. Hudsucker Proxy is in my Top 25 of all time. So I do give them some credit. I was trashing them last year over NCFOM because it astonishes me a film can receive praise when the most interesting scene is Tommy Lee Jones eating breakfast.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 2:06:29 PM CST

    Frost Nixon

    by series7

    Seriously, there is no reason why I would want to see that movie. The idea of seeing how a 6 hour interview came together??? About a president who I already know enough about. But damn did I not see that trailer and say, I want to go to there. And I fucking hate Ron Howard films, save for maybe Grand Theft Auto (haven't seen it but it looks awesome). I really want to see it and don't understand why they dicked around with the SLOW releasing of it. Speaking of slow released stuff I was in VA last weekend and the new Hoffman movie was showing and I thought it was in wide release but it was only in like 6 theaters, I wonder how they picked Tysons Corner?

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  • Dec 31, 2008 2:09:24 PM CST

    Echo

    by series7

    Yeah I figured as much, I scrapped together that trip to VA last minute and it was very short. But very good, got to show my lady friend they big three of D.C (White Hose, monument, Honest Abe) which was really fun.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 2:09:37 PM CST

    I never said he was a hot headed little kid......

    by dannyglovers_dickblood


    ......I said he was sensitive. Thats a much different image. And I'm not really volatile to anyone in the group. I always restrain myself from being too mean or insulting. I drop harsh language, but its always about a film-- not directed to the posters themselves. There is a difference. For example when Hobo said "Fuck you" over Indy IV, I found that to be a bit harsh. Personally its not something I would say to any of the regulars.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 2:14:11 PM CST

    I agree with Danny about the

    by series7

    Coens. I mean they make really interesting shit, but I feel like there best work is the stuff overlooked. Namely Hudsucker and Barton Fink. Also there older stuff is their best, seriously I saw Raising Arizona after No Country and they are seriously almost the same movie, just ones a comedy and the other is thriller. Though I will say that there movies get better with each viewing. Also the no music in No Country I didn't like, especially since they are so good with music. The Fargo score is pretty amazing. I feel now that its going to be hard for them to make any more truly great movies, ever since The Dude they haven't made anything that outstanding, they just got too popular and known after that.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 2:23:30 PM CST

    HOD

    by xiphos_2

    I won't have TDK in my best of list either. Don't know about Wall E because I haven't seen it and I'm in no rush, cartoon movies aren't big on my list of movies to watch. I'll catch it on cable in a few months maybe.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 2:29:44 PM CST

    U23D

    by series7

    Totally forgot about that movie. If you call it a movie, it was fucking badass. How about coolest effect of 08.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 2:45:15 PM CST

    MoM-- NCFOM discussions were hilarious....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood


    I got sucked into one way back. That elitist cunt was so clever at skewing your words to support his argument. I told him "NCFOM is boring as shit," and he would return with "Fantastic!! I see you were equally affected by the menacingly somber tone!" and I would say "Uhhhh no. It didn't affect me. It just bored me. This movie is shit," and he would say "I'm glad you felt like you were challenged. Some of the greatest films are not an easy first viewing."

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  • Dec 31, 2008 2:54:36 PM CST

    Richard Roeper BEST AND WORST OF 2008

    by dannyglovers_dickblood



    1. "Slumdog Millionaire"

    2. "The Dark Knight"

    3. "The Wrestler"

    4. "In Bruges"

    5. "I've Loved You So Long"

    6. "Gran Torino"

    7. "Milk"

    8. "The Visitor"

    9. "Forgetting Sarah Marshall"

    10. "Frozen River"

    11. "Doubt"

    12. "Snow Angels"

    13. "Frost/Nixon"

    14. "The Reader"

    15. "Seven Pounds"

    16. "Iron Man"

    17. "Vicky Cristina Barcelona"

    18. "W."

    19. "Henry Poole Is Here"

    20. "Burn After Reading"

    21. "The Curious Case of Benjamin Button"

    22. "WALL-E"

    23. "The Bank Job"

    24. "Tropic Thunder"

    25. "Che"

    WORST MOVIES OF 2008 (NO. 1 BEING THE WORST)
    10. "You Don't Mess With the Zohan"

    9. "Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay"

    8. "Over Her Dead Body"

    7. "Fly Me to the Moon"

    6. "Funny Games"

    5. "88 Minutes"

    4. "10,000 B.C."

    3. "The Women"

    2. "What Happens in Vegas"

    1. "The Love Guru"

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  • Dec 31, 2008 3:01:01 PM CST

    Since it's after midnight for me, HAPPY NEW YEAR!

    by xiphos_2

    Everbody!

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  • Dec 31, 2008 3:03:40 PM CST

    Hahahahaha "sensitive"

    by kungfuhustler84

    No no no man. Maybe you're reading my posts with too much animosity. It could be the way I'm writing them. For that, I apologize. I never insulted you in that post though. I merely shared my opinion like we always do. What about my post made you think I was sensitive. Intense maybe, but sensitive? My only point was the arguments over Shia, Pixar, and Indy have all been shared to the point of exhaustion and it is just starting to really bore me.Moving on...No Country For Old Men was definitely a good movie, but best picture? AND supporting actor AND best director? No, just no.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 3:07:05 PM CST

    I'll take The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ....over NCFOM any day.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 3:12:43 PM CST

    Danny I tried looking up that movie

    by kungfuhustler84

    and I can't find it. Who's in it? What's it about?

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  • Dec 31, 2008 3:15:11 PM CST

    Just finished Massa's worst list

    by kungfuhustler84

    Good to see someone actually putting up the movies that probably (haven't seen any of them) were the WORST as opposed to the LEAST FAVORITE. Speed Racer as Capone's worst was just dumb.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 3:17:04 PM CST

    Kung

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    3 Burials? http://tinyurl.com/98om8 Trailer here... http://tinyurl.com/gxvj6

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  • Dec 31, 2008 3:18:36 PM CST

    3 Burials is very cool....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Tommy Lee directed it (the old wrinkled guy, not the guy that fucks blonde crackheads) and did a fine job. I just compare it to NCFOM because he is the same sort of worn down do-gooder on the Mexican border and the overall look is similar. Barry Pepper is very good in it as well.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 3:19:51 PM CST

    ok, gotta condense some of these..

    by jonah echo

    so I'll do 13, 12 and 11 quickly..and be back later with the rest.

    Three Burials wasnt better than NCFOM but it's strength is it shows what a good actor Barry Pepper can be. He isn't utlizied nearly enough in films.

    Kungfu, if it's Burials you are referring to its a Tommy Lee Jones directed film about a ranch-hand(I think) who sees a border guard shoot his friend, and then goes on a trip with said guard held hostage to bury his friend. It's worth seing, though Im not sure it entirely works for me personally. The good news is that it starts weak and ends strong. Which is always better than starting strong and ending weak in my opinion.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 3:23:12 PM CST

    I liked 3 Burials a whole lot....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    It was one of my favorite films that year. And I think its better than NCFOM because it stays consistent. It doesn't convince us its one sort of film and then end up a Jason Vorhees killing machine thriller. And then yank the meat out of your mouth and say oh wait, but this is an art film-- so you don't get to see the shootout like you thought you would, see what we did there-- we made you thirst for violence which is the same shit the old wrinkled guy has been talking about the whole time, we're clever aren't we? None of that shit. Its just a straight up honest film that is stark and somber, good story telling.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 3:23:30 PM CST

    Barry Pepper was also great in 25th Hour.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Dec 31, 2008 3:24:48 PM CST

    9. "Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay"

    by series7

    WHAT!! That movie was funny as shit, much better then the first one. Zohan was pretty damn funny as well. This has been an amazing year for comedy, every big comedy was actually funny.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 3:26:18 PM CST

    But 9. "Forgetting Sarah Marshall"

    by series7

    In the top ten???? Roper does like to suck Apatows balls. I've yet to see it so I can't really say anything, but to put that in your top ten and then shit on HAKGTGB?

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  • Dec 31, 2008 3:37:18 PM CST

    Thanks Danny and Jonah

    by kungfuhustler84

    I will definitely check it out. Sounds interesting.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 3:57:07 PM CST

    Man oh man

    by kungfuhustler84

    I REALLY wanna see Not Quite Hollywood.I need to get more crazy 70s cinema. I have a few blacksploitation films, and a couple of cheesy horror movies, but I need more of those crazy action films like Race with the Devil. I havve been wanting to see that movie since I read about it on Quint's AMAD post way back when. That movie just sounded amazing to me.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 4:11:16 PM CST

    damn. Check out Ben Lyons wikipedia page....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ....look at the PERSONAL LIFE section.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 4:14:38 PM CST

    LA TIMES article on Ben Lyons

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Is Ben Lyons the most hated film critic in America?

    In the four months since the fresh-faced 27-year-old "movie dude" for the E! Entertainment Network was installed to co-host a revamped version of the venerable movie review program "At the Movies," he has gotten a resounding thumbs down from an angry mob of film bloggers, columnists, professional movie critics and fans of the show. Consensus is that Lyons, the son of New York film critic Jeffrey Lyons, is unworthy of the balcony seats once occupied by Roger Ebert and Gene Siskel on the TV mainstay that has rallied audiences into theaters for more than three decades.

    "His integrity's out the window. He has no taste," said Erik Childress, vice president of the Chicago Film Critics Assn. "Everyone thinks he's a joke."




    Lyons became infamous in film circles for calling Will Smith's 2007 zombie-vampire movie "I Am Legend" "one of the greatest movies ever made." That appraisal became a key part of the movie's print advertising campaign.

    "One of the 'greatest movies ever made'?" said Childress, who's also a movie reviewer for eFilmCritic.com. "Next to 'Lawrence of Arabia' and 'Citizen Kane'? The only way you can say that with a straight face is if you've only seen 50 movies in your life. Or you're trying to give quotes to appease someone who can do you a favor later."

    Lyons declined to be interviewed for this story. But among the accusations flung his way: that he landed his job through nepotism, is unknowledgeable about movies, sucks up to celebrities and, most damaging, is a "quote whore" -- a shill for movie marketers whose all-too-frequent raves are repurposed as gushy pull quotes on movie ads, usually accompanied by several exclamation points.

    Which would be of hardly any consequence were it not for the drastic transformation of film criticism. Long gone are the times when a vaunted single critic such as the New Yorker's Pauline Kael could inject a film into the national consciousness with a single positive review. These days, moviegoers are just as apt to check a movie's rating at Rotten Tomatoes, the popular movie-review aggregating website, as to read an actual review from a major news organization.

    Worse, with readership plummeting, newspapers and magazines have had to drastically thin their ranks of critics. In recent months, the Chicago Tribune, New York Daily News, Newsweek, Newsday, the Village Voice and The Times, among other outlets, have let critics go. Meanwhile, movie marketing has never been more pervasive, and many studio summer blockbusters are now described as "critic proof," meaning that negative reviews do nothing to affect the box office.

    In this light, Lyons' ascension to the "throne" of televised film criticism has come to represent something more than just the changing of the guard -- many view it as yet another example of the dumbing down of media and of celebrity triumphing over substance.

    With his meat-and-potatoes good looks, frat-boy bonhomie and straight-down-the-pike delivery -- more reminiscent of a "SportsCenter" commentator than an erudite cultural arbiter -- Lyons is certainly not your father's movie reviewer. But it's his way of shrinking a sweeping critical pronouncement down to glossy sound-bite size that seems to most affront Lyons' detractors. Especially when held up to his predecessors' standards.

    "It crystallizes everything that's wrong with American pop culture right now," said Scott Johnson, the blogger behind the website StopBenLyons.com. "I don't expect to agree with a critic all the time. But his approach is to throw out blurbs just so he can get on a poster."

    S.T. VanAirsdale, senior editor of the entertainment-industry-skewering blog Defamer, framed the debate around the so-called "Ben Lyons Hate Storm" in more direct terms. "It's a pretty microcosmic phenomenon, when you look at who hates him," VanAirsdale said. "But for people who take film criticism seriously, he's an imposition. If he's established himself as the benchmark for where popular criticism is headed, we're all kind of [in trouble]."

    Setting a standard

    Regime change has always been hard for fans of the show, many of whom began watching in the mid-'70s when it was hosted by Siskel and Ebert and known as "Sneak Previews." By 1979, it had become the highest-rated weekly entertainment series in the history of public broadcasting. Evolving into "At the Movies" in 1981 -- Jeffrey Lyons was hired to appear on "Sneak Previews" when Siskel and Ebert left over a contractual dispute -- it set the standard for subsequent movie review talk shows and remains the only such program to both brand itself in the American mind and change the face of film criticism -- some might say grossly oversimplifying it -- with its patented "thumbs up, thumbs down" rating system.

    "Two thumbs up conveyed a seal of approval," said Jason E. Squire, instructor of cinema practice at the USC School of Cinematic Arts and editor of "The Movie Business Book." "It was so powerful, the expression became part of the general lexicon." Added Bill Mechanic, former chairman and chief executive of 20th Century Fox Filmed Entertainment: "For marketing purposes, a 'two thumbs up' was great to have." (Ebert, who stopped appearing in "At the Movies" after medical issues robbed him of his voice in 2006, exercises the sole right to use his thumb for rating purposes; Siskel died in 1999. Richard Roeper joined the show in 2000, and hosted with revolving guest critics in Ebert's absence.)

    Last summer, producer Disney-ABC Domestic Television decided to take the syndicated show "in a new direction," prompting Ebert and Roeper to announce that they were severing ties with the program. In their places, "At the Movies" executives hired Ben Mankiewicz, a host on Turner Classic Movies who is the grandson of famed screenwriter Herman Mankiewicz ("Citizen Kane") and nephew of Oscar-winning director Joseph Mankiewicz ("All About Eve"), and Lyons, a New York native whose academic pedigree consists of a few semesters at the University of Michigan and whose first professional critic gig was talking film on his father's movie review program "Reel Talk." The younger Lyons also reviews movies and interviews celebrities for E! Online, "E! News," "The Daily 10" and "Smash Time Saturday's" and hosts the game show "My Family's Got Guts" on Nickelodeon.

    Viewers haven't been quite so rankled by Mankiewicz, 41, who comes off a bit more measured when giving his critical appraisals. ("You put anyone next to Ben Lyons and they're going to look bulletproof," notes VanAirsdale.) But Lyons' installation released a torrent of negative blowback, most of it online. "I don't like Lyons," blogger Jeffrey Wells wrote on hollywood-elsewhere.com, "because you can tell right off the bat he's too much of a glider and a glad-hander." Variety.com's deputy editor and columnist Anne Thompson also derided Lyons, describing "At the Movies" as "a train wreck," complaining that discourse between Mankiewicz and Lyons is "dismayingly shallow."

    "It's like Johnny Carson being replaced by Dane Cook," said Childress, who also writes a feature called "Ben Lyons Quote of the Week" on eFilmCritic.com that deconstructs and ridicules Lyons' critiques. "It's going from the top echelon in the profession to the absolute lowest."

    Then there's StopBenLyons.com. Established in September by Oakland computer programmer-turned-blogger Scott Johnson, the blog is largely devoted to highlighting Lyons' perceived critical trespasses and advocating his dismissal. A die-hard fan of the show, Johnson was motivated to create the site by what he views as righteous indignation.

    "If [Lyons] wants to sit in Siskel's or Ebert's seat, he's got to prove he's worthy of our attention," Johnson explained. "What Ben says about movies, it's not worthwhile. He seems to be doing the show more because he wants to be on TV than because he has something to say about the movies."

    Some of Lyons' pronouncements certainly seem to show a certain lack of seasoning. While recently reviewing " Quantum of Solace," he proclaimed that "GoldenEye" was his favorite James Bond film, eschewing many of the franchise's most heralded installments. His rationale? "It was the first one for Pierce Brosnan," Lyons said. "And that was also. . . when the first-person action video game Bond franchise was launched, which I wasted many hours of my childhood playing."

    A show's ratings

    It's unlikely that Lyons will be mentioned in the same breath as heavyweight critics such as Ebert, who writes for the Chicago Sun-Times, the Wall Street Journal's Joe Morgenstern, The Times' Kenneth Turan, or the New York Times' Manohla Dargis any time soon. But then again, you don't see any of those critics posing for snapshots with many of the same celebrities they write about, as you do on Lyons' blog The Lyons Den -- a professional habit that has given the reviewer a reputation for kissing the hand that feeds. (See the accompanying article.)

    But critical standards aren't the only issues being debated when it comes to "At the Movies." Some industry observers think that the show's relevancy may have gone with the dawn of the Information Age. "I . . . wonder if the era of sitting passively in front of a TV screen and listening to a couple of guys trade opinions about movies has the same vitality that it had when Roger Ebert and Gene Siskel started 'Sneak Previews' on PBS in 1977," Wells wrote on the Hollywood-Elsewhere blog. ". . . Audiences these days like to talk back and argue and engage interactively."

    The show's numbers are far below what they used to be. Ratings for the new "At the Movies" are at 1.8 million total viewers, down 21% compared with the same period last year, according to figures from Nielsen Media Research. Comparative viewership also dropped by double digits in every key demographic except for males 18 to 34, for whom it's down only 4%. A spokeswoman for ABC Media Productions, which oversees "At the Movies," pointed out the revamped program has shown improvement among total viewers since its September premiere.

    Disney-ABC Television Group's Brian Frons, who heads up the creation, production and delivery of shows for ABC Media Productions, voices unqualified support for Lyons.

    "This is a guy who, if you sit and talk with him, he really does have an enormous love and knowledge base of movies," Frons said. "Did he spend 20 years as critic for a major newspaper? No. He's very much of the TV generation who don't spend time reading newspapers. I think we have a guy who is giving the information that audiences want to hear about film to make decisions about what to see."

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  • Dec 31, 2008 4:43:54 PM CST

    the wiki page is pretty funny

    by kungfuhustler84

  • Dec 31, 2008 4:53:08 PM CST

    The article's good too

    by kungfuhustler84

    Goldeneye because it was the first one with Pierce Brosnan, and because it had a videogame he liked to play? WHAT THE FUCK??!!Lately I am becoming more aware of just how much more idiotic our society is coming. The more I learn and grow and look back on all of it, the less comfortable I am. But I won't get into the full rant here. Just look at Lyons. Sheesh.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 5:00:56 PM CST

    of course...

    by kungfuhustler84

    my typos don't exactly make me look too brilliant either

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  • Dec 31, 2008 5:33:58 PM CST

    The Wave

    by series7

    Die Welle??? Has anyone seen it? Also has anyone seen The Day The Earth Stood Still? Still looks terrible.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 5:46:20 PM CST

    Haven't seen either

    by kungfuhustler84

    and yes, DTESS does still look horrid.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 6:04:52 PM CST

    Speed Racer

    by series7

    I finally got the Wii game for Kwanzaa and it is a lot of fun. Its like Wipeout. Also got No More Heroes and its fucking awesome, you just go around cutting everyone's head off.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 6:06:59 PM CST

    Lyons?

    by series7

    I actually agreed with his Goldeneye thing. I was just thinking the other day that he wasn't as bad a douche bag as I heard. I mean, when are we going to stop having old people tell us what to see or not? Though I wish Robert Osborn and not the other guy had gotten on the show.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 6:18:37 PM CST

    If Goldeneye's your fav that's cool

    by kungfuhustler84

    but judging a movie by its videogame tie-ins borders on retardation. That's not a movie, it's merchandise.It's like hating the new Punisher movie because the Punisher shirt you got at Hot Topic shrank too fast in the wash.Not that anyone would do that ...stupid cheap cotton.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 6:40:08 PM CST

    well, my top 10 is as follows

    by the milf lover

    I havent seen nearly as many movies as most of you, and a lot of the highly praised movies like Slumdog generally just dont interest me, so these are really just my favorites.
    10-Wall-E
    9-Red Cliff
    8-OneChanbara
    7-The Wrestler
    6-Doomsday
    5-Iron-Man
    4-Death Race
    3-Hellboy: The Golden Army
    2-Tropic Thunder
    1-Kung Fu Panda
    The last few slots are a bit of padding, as a I've enjoyed several other movies but dont feel they're worthy of top 10.
    My worst is Babylon A.D. for being such an ugly wretched mess. I'm not even interested in seeing the supposedly superior Director's Cut, once was enough.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 7:35:58 PM CST

    Fu

    by series7

    Lyons point was that Goldeneye was the first Bond movie he saw in theaters and added in the fact that everyone was playing that game and it was awesome, it made the movie that much more awesome. That is why the movie is his favorite, I totally got what he meant. I mean that is probably why is my favorite. I mean it wasn't like he said that he didn't like Tomorrow Never Dies because the game sucked, he was just saying that added with the game it made for an awesome first Bond and reintroduction of Bond to the world. Mancowitz of course has never heard of N64 so he was like??? There are Bond video games? Trying to make Lyons look stupid.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 8:23:37 PM CST

    I get what you're saying Series

    by kungfuhustler84

    And I don't mean to insult your taste or anything. But that kind of thinking is not professional criticism. I just typed out a bunch more stuff and promptly deleted it. I don't want to get into the topic of criticism any more because it's something I actually feel kind of stongly about, and let's face it, I tend to lean towards the asshole side of the fence lately.So I'll just say that if that's Lyons reasoning, then he should not be surprised that he will not be respected as a professional movie critic.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 8:30:23 PM CST

    In other news

    by kungfuhustler84

    I just watched Hancock with the family. Boy that was a really horrendous last act. Like why would the two head-up-the-ass guys who were TERRIFIED of Hancock suddenly agree with some one-handed dude that they should go and take out Hancock? The whole thing was just falling apart to me right from the point Charlize Theron revealed her secret (which was so obvious it hurt to watch). And her fight scene with Hancock was lame. Talk about sacrificing character, pacing, and tension for CG spectacle. All those thunderstorms and breaking things for nothing. It was a clever idea, and it really had a lot more potential, but I was mostly bored.And HOLY SHIT I am sick of seeing so much product placement in Big Willie's movies. Dunkin Donuts, Dasani, State Farm Insurance? Ugh. iRobot had the same thing and it annoyed the hell out of me. Just more stupid distractions.Okay, this cranky old man is gonna take a break and drink some coffee before the big party before he pops a gasket.

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  • Dec 31, 2008 11:15:21 PM CST

    HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!!!!

    by the milf lover

  • Jan 01, 2009 12:41:21 AM CST

    HAPPY YEW NEAR EVERYBUDDAH!!!!

    by kungfuhustler84

  • Jan 01, 2009 4:45:21 AM CST

    HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYBODY!!!

    by therewolf

    Did want to post yesterday but unfortunately I wasn't in any fit state to operate machinery.Hope it's a good one for y'all!

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  • Jan 01, 2009 7:11:48 AM CST

    Happy New Year all...

    by jonah echo

    Well, I was trying to be ambitious with my top choices, but I'll just list them and we can talk about it from there. So, heres my top 20:


    20. The Hammer

    19. Paranoid Park

    18. Hellboy 2

    17. Timecrimes

    16. The Chaser

    15. The Band's Visit

    14. Frost/Nixon

    13. In Bruges

    12. Let the Right One In

    11. Happy Go Lucky

    10. Speed Racer

    9. Wendy and Lucy

    8. The Good, the Bad, the Weird

    7.The Wrestler

    6. The Dark Knight

    5. Wall-E

    4. Slumdog Millionaire

    3. The Visitor

    2. The Fall

    1. The Curious Case of Benjamin Button

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  • Jan 01, 2009 7:17:28 AM CST

    also, if there is a 21 spot...

    by jonah echo

    or some sort of runner-up spot...I gotta give major kudos to Cloverfield. In fact, just consider it a tie with Hellboy 2 at spot 18. I freakin love that movie. That bit in the tunnel with the spider-lice was INTENSE.

    Ever notice the way in which 2006. 2007, and 2008 gave us a sort of unofficial monster trilogy:

    The Host, The Mist and Cloverfield.
    Now that would be an awesome line-up for a movie marathon.

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  • Jan 01, 2009 7:57:51 PM CST

    Hellboy 2

    by series7

    Should be in the top ten. Fuck Happy Go Lucky, I don't care about that movie.

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  • Jan 01, 2009 7:58:47 PM CST

    Wendy and Lucy

    by series7

    Looks stupid as well. Man Echo, how'd you see all those movies? Did you catch the new Hoffman movie showing at Tysons?

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  • Jan 01, 2009 8:00:17 PM CST

    Frozen River

    by series7

    Echo did you see that? How'd anyone besides a critic see that movie? It only played in festivals as far I know?

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  • Just a giant fuck you motherfuckers, The Pac 10 is 5-0 in bowl games and USC routed another fradulent "Big 10" team. So I guess the Pac 10 is not as bad as you monkey fuckers thought, eh?

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  • Jan 01, 2009 9:36:53 PM CST

    It seems this TB fell out of the top 10

    by xiphos_2

    I'll see what I can do about that before I sleep teh day away.

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  • Jan 01, 2009 9:40:14 PM CST

    Sports blogging 101

    by xiphos_2

    Tomorrow night when Texas kicks the holy hell out of Ohio State it will prove, once again, how bad the "big 10" really is.

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  • Jan 01, 2009 9:42:28 PM CST

    Burn After Reading

    by xiphos_2

    I watched a download of this movie and I have to say, I wasn't impressed. I found it boring, unfunny and just plain unlikable. I usually like Coen movies but this one was not any good.

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  • Jan 01, 2009 9:48:08 PM CST

    HellBoy 2

    by xiphos_2

    I eally wanted to like it more then I did. HB2 ws an improvement over the first one, but there was just something missing that held me back in liking it more. Solid effort in my opion not great.I did like it better then TDK.

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  • Jan 01, 2009 9:53:02 PM CST

    Anybody know when the DVD of Nick and Nora's

    by xiphos_2

    infinite play list gets released? I want to see that movie. I like the one crazy night teen movies.

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  • Jan 01, 2009 9:57:20 PM CST

    Anybody else find the following funny as I do?

    by xiphos_2

    i realize hyberbole and dipshitness is part and parcel of talkbacks, but does anybody else think its funny when TBers get all butt hurt when another TBer or AICN staffer doesn't like what they do?They act like that person came to thier house and molested the dog at Christmas dinner. It's really funny in my opinion.

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  • Jan 01, 2009 9:58:34 PM CST

    Man

    by xiphos_2

    how many more posts will it take to get back on the top 10?

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  • Jan 01, 2009 10:05:42 PM CST

    Back to sports

    by xiphos_2

    My worthless predictions for this weekends playoff games.
    AZ Cardinals 28 Atlanta Falcons 24Indianapolis Colts 35 San Diego Chargers 17

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  • Jan 01, 2009 10:13:06 PM CST

    Sundays Games

    by xiphos_2

    Phillidelphia Eagles 21 Minnestoa Vikings 14Baltimore Ravens 20 Miami Dolphins 10

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  • Jan 01, 2009 10:54:26 PM CST

    meanwhile, in hockey news

    by the milf lover

    The Detroit Red Wings beat the Chicago Black Hawks 6-4 in an outdoors game played at the Wrigley Field baseball stadium, in front of 40000+ people!

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  • Jan 01, 2009 10:57:12 PM CST

    and I agree Xi

    by the milf lover

    molesting someone's dog at Christmas dinner is indeed really funny! Especially if it's a Cameron or Tarantino fan, these people are really defensive and have no sense of humor.

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  • Jan 01, 2009 11:14:59 PM CST

    Nick and Nora dvd

    by the milf lover

    comes out February 3rd according to Amazon.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 12:12:43 AM CST

    I missed thae hockey game

    by xiphos_2

    Last years was cool in the blizzard.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 12:52:05 AM CST

    Milf Lover

    by xiphos_2

    yeah the Cameron and Tarintino folks are a dreary lot.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 1:17:15 AM CST

    and this tb is back from the dead!!!

    by the milf lover

  • Jan 02, 2009 2:02:18 AM CST

    Has anybody seen this AD on ABC?

    by xiphos_2

    For thier new show about Homeland Security? Oh WTF is that, and why were they showing a soldier in uniform? Last time I checked Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Marines weren't part of the Homeland Security Department. For that matter niether are local cops and I saw some in this ad for a quickly cancelled show.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 2:03:22 AM CST

    MIlf

    by xiphos_2

  • Jan 02, 2009 2:04:48 AM CST

    We're close to moving up a spot

    by xiphos_2

    I can ramble my way to ninth place.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 2:14:30 AM CST

    Fiesta Bowl Prediction

    by xiphos_2

    Texas 45 Ohio State University 10 and it won't even be that close. The TD will come during garbage time. Then the circle will be compleat in the Big 10 beat down AGAIN. Mack Brown and the Longhorns have something to prove to the BCS voters. I believe the OSU punching bags are the right patsys' to prove the point that they should have been in the Championship game.Did I happen to mention the Pac 10 went 5-0 in Bowl Games?

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  • Jan 02, 2009 2:19:48 AM CST

    With this post

    by xiphos_2

    I'm out, I need to get some sleep today. If anybody shows up carry on the hard work of Milf and I.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 2:31:21 AM CST

    IP MAN is great! DONNIE YEN is GOD!!

    by the milf lover

    I just watched IP MAN and holy shit what a great movie! Truly one of the best of 2008, so stick that in my top 5! I'd seen the trailer but I hadnt read up on it so I didnt know anything about the story other than it's about the guy who ended up training Bruce Lee (a fact that really has nothing to do with the movie). I expected a lame story with some sweet Donnie Yen fights, boy was I wrong! (Well I wasnt wrong about the sweet Donnie Yen fights, he kicks all kinds of ass all over the movie. "I WANT TO FIGHT 10 MEN!!") Much of the movie is set during the japanese occupation of World War 2 so it's darker than I thought it would be. This movie needs to be released in theatres everywhere! Simply awesome. I highly recommend it to everybody!! HOD, you will greatly enjoy IP MAN, I have absolutely no doubt about it!

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  • Jan 02, 2009 2:44:32 AM CST

    Xiphos_2

    by series7

    Good me too. Same feelings about Burn After Reading.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 2:56:44 AM CST

    That homeland security show

    by series7

    Looks like poop covered poop, similar to that stupid Kid Rock song they are showing before movies to get people to sign up for the National Guard. Seeing that I was once involved with Homeland Security, its really not that great.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 3:19:21 AM CST

    Ballast

    by series7

    Looks like I'll get to see that movie in theaters and Let the Right One In.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 4:01:18 AM CST

    Thank god

    by series7

    Fucking yesterday my washer craps out and its only about a year old. My shittier then shit chocolate phone has a screen that keeps freezing and that started yesterday. Then on my drive downtown my Zune freezes up. I told my lady friend that she was taking all the pictures tonight since the digital camera it still new and I didn't want to break like every other electronic device I had touched earlier in the day. WELL at least the Zune problem is solved. We had thought that it had something to do with the new year and it was. Good, now I can put the new TJ album I downloaded on it.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 4:08:23 AM CST

    Watched

    by series7

    What Ever Happened to Baby Jane tonight. Pretty good old movie, though I like All About Eve better. Though Bettie Davis was creepy as shit, had that movie been made today it would have turned into torture porn.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 4:23:58 AM CST

    That

    by series7

    Ozplotation film sounds pretty cool. I still really want to see that Joe Dante film called Movie Orgy.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 4:29:25 AM CST

    The Wonderful World of the Brothers Grimm

    by series7

    Anyone seen that movie? Its from the 60's, looks pretty cool.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 4:43:33 AM CST

    Sweet!

    by series7

    Paraniod Park and Wassup Rockers is premiering on IFC this week. And Millions is showing as well (for some reason I KNEW it was going to be? Probably whole Slumdog hype).

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  • Jan 02, 2009 4:47:04 AM CST

    The Cars That Ate Paris

    by series7

    Peter Weirs first movie. Never heard of it, but its on IFC this month as well. Sounds interesting, any comments?

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  • Jan 02, 2009 6:28:08 AM CST

    I won't be able to post much at all today...

    by just pillow talk

    BUT....this is fucking ridiculous that I have to come in for one fucking day because of fucking year end close. Fuck!

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  • Jan 02, 2009 6:33:54 AM CST

    awright....movies I just checked out over the last few

    by just pillow talk

    days...X-files 2 - while I still enjoyed it, this was the best "story within an episode" they could have done? Fuck. several movies from Hawaiian's second batch....Musa - 3 1/2 stars...pretty solid flick. "spear man" kicked all sorts of ass. A fairly entertaining movie, nothing spectacular, but it worked pretty well.Open City - 2.5 stars, maybe 2.75 stars. I just kept the nagging thought in my head, dudes, they're just pickpockets. How exciting can this movie be? However, it was still a okay movie, but the "romantic" angle seemed a bit clunky to me. She was FUCKING HOT though. Damn, what a fine, fine body. Very well, 2.99 stars due to the outstanding work done by her body. Protege - 3 stars. It worked for me, and was compelling, even if you could see his 'final' choice a mile away. Whenever a small kid, specifically a girl, is involved, it hits me right in the gut.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 6:34:24 AM CST

    oh, and hope all you bitches and cunts had a

    by just pillow talk

    Happy New Year.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 6:35:33 AM CST

    and the one thing that continues to boggle my fucking mind

    by just pillow talk

    How da fuck does USC ever lose???????

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  • Jan 02, 2009 7:42:00 AM CST

    hmmm...not even Frankie seems to be here today

    by just pillow talk

    Damn you Frankie!

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  • Jan 02, 2009 7:44:25 AM CST

    this is gonna be a long fucking day...

    by just pillow talk

    And one other thing...all the fucking bowl games should be played on New Year's Day. Fuckers.Cincy vs. Virginia Tech? Dreadful.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 8:06:45 AM CST

    Series..

    by jonah echo

    Hey dude. You are usually on here when Im not and when I get back you have asked all these movie questions that often get ignored, and I feel bad for not responding, so let me take a stab.

    That whole list of mine is pretty much arbitrary as far as placement goes. In reality just a list of 20 movies I thought were the best with no placement is more accurate. That placement is jacked up anyway, because I was exhausted and delirious when I wrote it and everything is out of wack. I was looking at it today, and considering that Wendy and Lucy isn't really that high. But ignore the numbers and look at the movies, and if there are ones there you haven't seen, consider checking them out. Happy Go-Lucky was a surprise for me. I was really intrigued by the characters. Especially the almost psychotically angry driving instructor. He's played by the same guy who was the primary villain from Hancock but he was so much better(and more menacing actually) in Happy. He has his students remember the names and placements of fallen angels to understand hand placement on the steering wheel. And Poppy, the main character, was one of my fave characters and performances Ive seen in the last four or five months.

    I see these movies in all different ways. Primarily, my wife and I get free tickets to screenings quite often and see them that way. The others we see at the theater. HOD sent me some. For some of the others, there are what HOD calls "back channels" which I usually don't utilize but some movies never come here at all. When I do see movies through free means, I will often pay to see them here as soon as they show up. Unless something is a giant travesty, and if I have access to it at a theater, I see it there.

    Frozen River is a good movie. It's one of those sitting just off the side of the list. Melissa Leo is a woman who is smuggling illegal immigrants in her van. It's got that arty, indie feel, but the acting by Leo is really good, as well as the actors playing the families she ends up helping across. In some ways it's a little too austere for it's own good, and it's not entirely satisfying but theres tons of good stuff in it.

    Wendy and Lucy isn't stupid. However, it certainly isn't plot heavy. Every year, there seems to be a different kick or kind of movie that attracts me, and for some reason this year, it was movies where you got to know a character so well you really got to have compassion for them, and they were similar enough to people you know, or people you see on the street or come across in life, that it reminded me to have compassion for those people too. Happy Go Lucky, Wendy and Lucy and The Wrestler all had moments where I thought, if I met those characters at some random point, I'd have nothing but disdain for them, in that moment. And the strength of some of these more realistic movies, to me anyway, was being reminded of how many different kinds of people are out there, and how many seem "invisible" to us as we make our way through our lives. So, my guess is the number of "arty" movies on my list aren't there because they are arty, but because I really felt for and empathized with their characters and those characters were in stories that stuck with me. I'm a sucker for a good character, and if that character seems like a real person it will probably provoke me to thought. That's not to say these movies are persay, better than Hellboy 2 or Speed Racer or Dark Knight, but they are worth seeing.
    At least I think so.

    Baby Jane is a wierd movie. I don't think it completely works, but man is it creepy. Not in a thriller way, but in a "I dont want to be here, looking at this, but I can't turn away" sort of thing. Bette Davis looks like a drag queen who got mauled in a riot towards the latter half of that film. For some reason, it's one of my wife's faves.

    The Wonderful World of the Brothers Grimm, if it's the one Im thinking of, had fx by Harryhausen, doesnt it? I mostly remember the dragon. I saw it many times as a kid, but none too recently. I'm no doubt in the minority, but I actually quite like Gilliam's Brothers Grimm. It aint perfect, but I was entertained.

    No, Series, I have yet to see Last Chance Harvey, though I like both hoffman and Thompson. Ive seen movies at Tyson's Corner before, and it certainly isnt the first time they have something no one else does. I traversed out there to see Princess Mononoke back in 97 because it was showing nowhere else, and then about two weeks later, the theater right near my college picked it up.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 8:07:58 AM CST

    hey jpt...how was your holiday?

    by jonah echo

    and what else do you have left in that pack from HOD? I can give you some suggestions on what to see next. Get any cool dvds for christmas?

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  • Jan 02, 2009 8:17:07 AM CST

    hey Jonah...it was good

    by just pillow talk

    I had a stomach bug during Christmas, but other than that, it was okay.I got Hellboy II, Dark Knight, and the Incredible Hulk.Let's see...I have the Sinking of Japan Left, I'm a Cyborg, but that's okay...and I'm coming up with a blank as to the other ones remaining.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 8:18:25 AM CST

    did you see Mongol yet?

    by just pillow talk

    That will be my next netflix coming.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 8:24:44 AM CST

    JPT

    by jonah echo

    Take I'm a Cyborg for a spin. I expect you will have one of two reactions-hate it or love it. It has almost the sensibility of a Gilliam film, with lost of stylized imagery but a plethora of just wierd characters. I love the heck out of it, but it's one of the best movies in HODs pack if you ask me. Sinking of Japan is pure silliness. It's the japanese equiivalent of a sci-fi channel original with some notable and positive differences: Casper Van Dien, Stephen Baldwin and David Hasslehoff never show up. The fx are good and don't look like they were rendered on a Commodore 64. The pacing of the movie is better than waiting in the check-out lane when the register is down, and the cashier is an old lady with palsy. Usually you can't say that about a sci-fi channel "quickie".

    Mongol is quite good, especially if you are in the market for an epic. Asano is great as Khan. Quite good.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 8:27:41 AM CST

    Also, for any netflixers...

    by jonah echo

    who have watch it now...check out Chop Shop. It's another film that really should be on any kind of year end list, but I didnt see it til yesterday.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 8:27:45 AM CST

    Also, for any netflixers...

    by jonah echo

    who have watch it now...check out Chop Shop. It's another film that really should be on any kind of year end list, but I didnt see it til yesterday.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 8:32:03 AM CST

    christmas dvds..

    by jonah echo

    The worst one I recieved was Joe Dirt, from a cousin who I think was just screwing with us by giving it. Notable stuff was Speed Racer, How the West was Won, Cool Hand Luke, The Vsitor and a BBC docu about the Ganges river all on bluray. Also got Lego Star Wars and a copy of Bioshock for PS3.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 8:32:29 AM CST

    will do...I'll try and watch Cyborg for the weekend

    by just pillow talk

    could be a bit difficult as the playoffs are on, but we'll see.Yeah, Sinking with Japan I'm hoping for utter silliness. And I'm quite looking forward to Mongol. What did you think of Musa?

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  • Jan 02, 2009 8:34:26 AM CST

    I added Chop Shop...sounds interesting

    by just pillow talk

    Some nice DVD's you got there. I haven't seen Cool Hand Luke in a long, long time, but that's a classic movie. The Visitor is just a great, great film. I'm pretty sure I will never watch Speed Racer, has it's just not my cup of tea.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 9:41:18 AM CST

    morning people....I'm reading darkhorizons 2009 film list...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...its pretty interesting. Actually sounds more interesting than this year. A lot of bizarre films. A movie called Daybreakers with Willem Dafoe, Ethan Hawke, Sam Neill. The story is "In the year 2017, a plague has transformed most every human into vampires. Faced with a dwindling blood supply, the dominant plots their survival." Isn't that the story of Ultraviolet? It seems like this has been done a thousand times. And Blomkamp made a feature out of District 9? The South African alien thing. Anyone see the short?

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  • Jan 02, 2009 9:42:37 AM CST

    and the return of Mel in Edge of Darkness.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    That will truly kick some ass.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 9:50:44 AM CST

    Daybreakers...

    by just pillow talk

    I'm sure, much like it seems with every single fucking vampire movie, it'll be bad.Edge of Darkness...Ray Fucking Winstone is in it too.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 9:52:05 AM CST

    NIC CAGE playing Egyptian Prime Minister?!!

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    This is the greatest news I have ever heard: Nicolas Cage is tipped to be receiving a large paycheck to play assassinated Egyptian president Muhammad Anwar al Sadat reports Earth Times.

    "Saddam Was Not Executed" author Anis al-Degheidy penned the mini-series for Egyptian TV which is being filmed in English and dubbed in Arabic.

    Serving from 1970-1981, the president departed from the economic and political principles of his confidant and predecessor Gamal Abdel Nasser by opening up private investment in Egypt, reinstiuting the multi-party political system.

    On the foreign affairs front, he recaptured the Sinai peninsula from the Israelis during the 1973 Yom Kippur War and later was instrumental in the Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty.

    Lebanese helmer Youssef Sharaf will direct the project which begins filming mid-2009. Louis Gossett Jr. scored an Emmy nomination for playing Sadat in a 1983 mini-series produced by Sony Pictures. The 2001 Egyptian biopic feature "Days of Sadat" was a major success in Egypt.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 9:53:23 AM CST

    Edge of Darkness...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...Martin Campbell directs and Mel will literally explode on screen with all the stored up rage due to the current Israel/Hamas situation. It will be fucking rock and roll, thats all I know.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 9:56:59 AM CST

    JPT

    by xiphos_2

    Why USC loses a game they shouldn't is simple. The Pac 10 plays each other every year and the Trojans are so much better then everbody else in the Pac 10, I think they just overlook the competion, so a Stanford or Oregon State sneaks in and and steals a win. USC, in out of conference games or post season, are so money it's not even funny.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 10:00:00 AM CST

    Ha! Nic is a dead ringer...

    by just pillow talk

    http://www.s9.com/Biography/SadatMuhammad-Anwarel-This just can't be legit, but if it is, could be hysterical in epic proportions. I think he should incorporate some GhostRider into Anwar.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 10:01:35 AM CST

    the other problem Xi....

    by just pillow talk

    I think, is that half their team are locked in as first rounders, so I think sometimes they just don't give a shit. I'm sorry, but the amount of talent that USC amasses should enable them to still win games even when they play like goat shit.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 10:14:08 AM CST

    fuck me

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    That could end up being the greatest cult comedy of all time. The type of shit they have screenings for every Saturday at midnight at the local dive theater for the next 50 years and people come dressed up and scream the lines at the screen. Hahahaha.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 10:17:47 AM CST

    JPT

    by xiphos_2

    One more thing people seem to forget is that college players are still kids and run on emotion. So when you play in a road game in a tough enviroment like Stanford or Oregon State against teams you see every year mistakes happen.All the losses USC have is against other Pac 10 teams. They've only lost one bowl games and two out of conference games under Pete Carrol and one of those was the bowl game against Texas. They are 9-0 against the Big ten in Bowl games and the thier numbers against the SEC is fantastic.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 10:26:12 AM CST

    I think they shouldn't even try and make NIc look

    by just pillow talk

    like him, but have him do a horrible accent. This could be gold!

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  • Jan 02, 2009 10:30:14 AM CST

    I can also see George Hamilton in that role...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...for some odd reason.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 10:33:09 AM CST

    put Danny DeVito in the role

    by just pillow talk

    it's certainly not a worse selection than Nic. Though Egyptian Treasure does have a nice ring to it...

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  • Jan 02, 2009 10:35:25 AM CST

    ARE YOU SMARTER THAN A USC FOOTBALL PLAYER?

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    http://tinyurl.com/6sp7ty

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  • Jan 02, 2009 10:36:34 AM CST

    DeVito could be his little henchman.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    The same role he played in Jewel of the Nile basically. He needs to bring that Panama back into style!

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  • Jan 02, 2009 10:51:36 AM CST

    that's a good idea...sidekick DeVito

    by just pillow talk

    "Special assistant".

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  • Jan 02, 2009 10:58:32 AM CST

    Nic Cage as Sadat

    by xiphos_2

    he should wear an Elvis wig and channel the delivery he used in Valley Girl. Now that would entertainment.There is no way that this a real story, is it from The Onion?

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  • Jan 02, 2009 10:58:35 AM CST

    mothefucking cunt fleas entertainment weekly...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ..drop a massive fucking spoiler about a romance and a death in the next Harry Potter film!! FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK!! They say "This is the scene from the book we've been waiting for." FUCK YOU!! I don't read the fucking books...I watch the movies. Millions of other people do the same. This isn't the fucking Christmas Carol, a story everyone already knows. FUCK OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFF!!

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  • Jan 02, 2009 11:01:09 AM CST

    He's been dubbed a Latin Nic Cage

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Salvador Delgado makes a living out of putting words in Nicolas Cage’s mouth.

    Since 1984, Delgado, a 46-year-old Mexican actor, has dubbed Cage’s lines into Spanish in 19 films, including Cage’s action movie “Bangkok Dangerous,” opening Friday.

    Delgado is one of the world’s most prolific dubbing artists, voicing such Hollywood leading men as Denzel Washington and Russell Crowe for the Spanish-language versions of movies that screen in the U.S. and abroad.

    Delgado is currently the voice of Brendan Fraser in “The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor” and Pierce Brosnan in “Mamma Mia!” (though he was spared having to perform Brosnan’s singing parts because of contractual constraints).

    He also does Hugh Laurie on TV’s “House” and can soon be heard dubbing for Bart Johnson in “High School Musical 3: Senior Year.”

    But Delgado’s rendering of Cage’s dialogue is one of cinema’s most enduring dubbing gigs.

    Delgado attended drama school and worked in theater for 10 years before entering Mexico City’s dubbing industry, which is Latin America’s largest.

    His first job was on 1984’s “Birdy,” in which Cage and Matthew Modine play damaged Vietnam vets.

    Delgado, who has voiced Cage in most of his films since, explains that although he doesn’t know Cage personally, he is intimately familiar with the actor’s inflections and is most comfortable playing Cage’s characters.

    “I do have the ability to adapt to many voices, paying attention to whether the intonations are more serious or more comic,” says Delgado, in Spanish, from his Mexico City home.

    Though he estimates he has worked on 6,000 films, talk is cheap — Delgado was, for example, paid a mere $250 for “The Rock,” Cage’s 1996 Alcatraz action flick.

    “No es mucho,” says Delgado, with no translation necessary.

    Mexico City has stayed on top in dubbing U.S. films for decades, partly because the relatively neutral Mexican accent seems to appeal to a broad Hispanic audience.

    Competition from Argentina, Colombia and elsewhere has kept fees low.

    But Delgado stays in demand because, he says, “There aren’t many who can listen and understand. I can do the work of many actors.”

    He says he realizes he has chosen a humble ­career in which many toil in obscurity, sometimes after finding that acting in their own skin isn’t working out.

    “But I think I have an artistic job,” says Delgado. “And a heartfelt one, too, no?”

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  • Jan 02, 2009 11:28:32 AM CST

    FUNNY

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    http://tinyurl.com/7k9mas

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  • Jan 02, 2009 11:40:47 AM CST

    Echo

    by series7

    Thanks man. Yeah I was just in a pissy mood and movies like Wendy and Lucy and Happy Go Lucky didn't sound that interesting. I'll probably catch Happy go Lucky, but Wendy and Lucy only if it comes on IFC down the line.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 11:43:36 AM CST

    DVDs

    by series7

    I got Speed Racer, Wall-E SE and a Mel Brooks collection with some movies of his I'd never seen. I'd pretty excited about that it has Silent Movie and High Anxiety. It DID NOT however have Spaceballs, but I dug though my moms dvd collection and she had an unopened copy I'm pretty sure either I made her buy or my dad bought, so she let me take that along with a couple other DVDs, which will shave a good 10 movies off of my 400 long Netflixs list.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 11:46:08 AM CST

    Danny

    by series7

    You car about Harry Potter? What. I'm sorry but the first two were just silly fun kind of 80's movies the third one is actually good. 4 and 5 are just lame. Four was so bad that about half way through me and my buddies were like??? Why the fuck did we come here? Especially during the lame prom scene. Number 5 was just kind of boring.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 12:09:24 PM CST

    Yeah I like the Potter film series...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    1 and 2 were bland but okay. 3 was the shit. 4 took a step back. 5 was the shit, but 3 is still the best. I forget all the fucking names. Thats how much of a fan I am.

    But whatever...the point is fuck EW for assuming every person going to see the movies has read all the fucking books and know where this is headed and carelessly drop major fucking spoilers! Stupid fucking move on their part.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 12:15:50 PM CST

    I forgot to tell you Danny that I finally got around

    by just pillow talk

    to seeing Across the Universe. Surprisenly I enjoyed it. So much so, that as a non-Beatle fan, I think I should really pick up some of their stuff. I actually liked it more than Mrs. Pillow, which is quite the opposite of what I would have predicted.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 12:17:42 PM CST

    pillow

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Oh cool. I'm sorta a closet Beatles fan. My wife is really into them. And the film also made me start listening to them a lot more. Man I fucking love the "Come Together" scene with Joe Cocker and the "Let It Be" scene. Powerful stuff.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 12:17:47 PM CST

    Potter films...

    by just pillow talk

    The biggest problem with them is that they don't know what to keep in the movie (more Snape) and what to keep out (the aforementioned Prom scene).

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  • Jan 02, 2009 12:19:25 PM CST

    last year our big boss took the management level

    by just pillow talk

    of Finance out to dinner and then to this show where it was some renowned Beatle impersonators, and they were quite good. So perhaps that laid the groundwork for my slow "conversion"...

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  • Jan 02, 2009 12:21:02 PM CST

    I really liked the prom scene....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...it was a moment to remind us that these are just ordinary kids when it comes down to it and on top of all the end of the world magic shit, they also have to deal with normal relationships and crushes and all that. And I really love the moment of Hermione going off on Ron. Very human moment. And I think Snape is used very well. If we saw him anymore his character would tire easily. I like how they keep him mysterious and quietly meddling in the background.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 12:58:17 PM CST

    Across the Universe

    by xiphos_2

    I'm intersted in seeing this movie even though I don't like the Beatles. I like to support movies that take chances when I can. Plus if it has Joe Cocker in it I'm sold. I like that crusty sounding bastard or must we use basterds now? I need a ruling from the dreary Tarantino fans.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 1:01:25 PM CST

    Danny

    by just pillow talk

    The only problem is Snape is featured more prominently in the book, and is a big factor overall in the series.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 1:03:30 PM CST

    Xi

    by just pillow talk

    Basterds is definitely not to be used in any CoC thread. Fuck Tarantino.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 1:04:47 PM CST

    AMEN. Fuck Tarantino.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I'd let him lick my feet....but that is all.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 1:05:19 PM CST

    maybe the Snape ratio is actually the same though...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...those books are long as fuck.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 1:18:29 PM CST

    yeah, but then you would have to hear him

    by just pillow talk

    blabber on and on about him licking your feet.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 1:19:27 PM CST

    well fuck me like a two bit whore...

    by just pillow talk

    #3 without even trying.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 2:52:55 PM CST

    CUNTS.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jan 02, 2009 3:06:28 PM CST

    WE MUST GET TO #1!!

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jan 02, 2009 3:19:31 PM CST

    I almost puked

    by the milf lover

    when I saw the new Harry animation.... it';s just a cartoon but nobody wants to see his fat naked ass splayed out like that!!

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  • Jan 02, 2009 3:22:04 PM CST

    If you like the Beatles, get the Love album

    by the milf lover

    it's kind of a greatest hits that was done for a show by Cirque Du Soleil, there are some slight rearrangements but it's a really cool album. didnt see the Cirq

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  • Jan 02, 2009 3:23:12 PM CST

    fucking accidental enter key hit!

    by the milf lover

    I was just saying I didnt see the Cirque du Soleil show and have no interest in it, but that they did a good job with the Beatles music.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 3:25:12 PM CST

    and may I reapeat that IP MAN rules?

    by the milf lover

    just in case nobody read my post from last night. Donnie Yen kicks major ass in it, and it's got a great story too.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 3:48:08 PM CST

    Danny, Potters

    by series7

    Also I can't fucking stand that Ron Weasly kid. As an actor he's fucking terrible I just want to smack the shit out of him. Knowing that he was richer before he even turned 15 then I will probably be in my entire life, is the bane of my existence.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 3:52:52 PM CST

    The Spirit

    by series7

    I know I shouldn't but the more I see those trailers the more I want to see the movie.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 3:56:21 PM CST

    Freddy Got Fingered

    by series7

    I love that movie and I am watching like the first five minutes that were tact on to the end of a show. And that first scene its like, is this guy retarded? But its still awesome. I need to watch the online Tom Green Show.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 3:58:29 PM CST

    Freddy Got Fingered is gold....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...its like reading a suicide letter written by a schizophrenic. Pull up the Tom Green internet clip when Andrew Dice Clay goes off on him and says "DON'T FUCKIN' HIT ME!" when Tom gently pats his shoulder. Awesome.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 4:26:41 PM CST

    Tom Green shoyuld get fingering by a chainsaw

    by the milf lover

    and die a horrible painful death. Fucking unfunny sack of crap.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 4:28:00 PM CST

    Green is still better than Dane Cook

    by the milf lover

    or Carrot Top, but that doesnt mean they deserves to live.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 4:40:40 PM CST

    Tom Green is a bizarre genius.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I've always liked him. Its clear he doesn't give a fuck about the laughs or punchline. He is clearly doing what he does to get himself off. And thats why he ended up on the internet.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 5:45:53 PM CST

    Dane Cook is the worst comic of 08.

    by worldofwarcraft

    Possibly the worst ever.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 5:50:04 PM CST

    naaaww worst ever would be Jay Leno.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Dane Cook is probably the 3rd worst comic of all time.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 5:52:49 PM CST

    I have a few clips of Cook I listen to.

    by worldofwarcraft

    Stunningly bad stuff.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 5:59:19 PM CST

    Cook is the WORST

    by worldofwarcraft

    Hmmmmmm... Getting an idea....

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  • Jan 02, 2009 6:19:29 PM CST

    Tom Green

    by series7

    His show was gold. The shit he did to Humplink were funny as shit. Also watch Tom Green Monkey Hour or the episode where he is on a cruise line for a week. I mean he is kind of like Jackass but less physical.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 6:23:20 PM CST

    he has more childlike magic than Jackass....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ....and his violence is like what a kid finds funny, breaking through a cardboard wall and pretending to be Godzilla or something. It doesn't involve actual pain. His Japanese special was fucking hilarious.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 6:24:13 PM CST

    or that guy sitting in the window on his show....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...always drinking coffee and laughing at every joke but never says a word. Awesome.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 6:43:09 PM CST

    You know who is awesome

    by series7

    Besides Steven Wright. Kyle Dunningan. He has a 30 minutes stand up on Comedy Central that is quite the knee slapper hoot riot. He's very original. Doug Benson.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 6:49:19 PM CST

    9

    by series7

    I think that has just become my most anticipated movie for next year.

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  • Jan 02, 2009 9:40:13 PM CST

    Damn

    by series7

    Slow night. Back to Smallville marathon, then Asian film fest.

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  • Jan 03, 2009 4:30:25 PM CST

    I'll post some while litening to the Cardinals game

    by xiphos_2

    Since teh Tb fell out of the top ten.

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  • Jan 03, 2009 4:31:23 PM CST

    TOUCHDOWN CARDINALS!

    by xiphos_2

    14-0 top of theecond quarter.

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  • Jan 03, 2009 4:33:15 PM CST

    Roll Tide?

    by xiphos_2

    Um no. Geting blown out by the Utah Utes is not a good thing when your heavily favored. Haha Saban, jackass.

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  • Jan 03, 2009 4:37:02 PM CST

    I've never seen Tom Greens Show

    by xiphos_2

    But Freddy Got Fingered is so wacked out that I have to give Tom some props for its sheer lunacy.

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  • Jan 03, 2009 4:39:25 PM CST

    Anybody ever watch Grandma's Boy?

    by xiphos_2

    I thought it was pretty damn funny.

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  • Jan 03, 2009 4:41:08 PM CST

    Back on the Top 10

    by xiphos_2

    That didn't take to many lame posts on my part. Now I'm setting my sights on the EW artical.

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  • Jan 03, 2009 4:42:15 PM CST

    Thank You AICN

    by xiphos_2

    for once again providing me with my own sports blog.

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  • Jan 03, 2009 4:45:07 PM CST

    It's hard to come up with topics

    by xiphos_2

    At one in the morning.

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  • Jan 03, 2009 4:46:44 PM CST

    Damn Falcons scored

    by xiphos_2

    This will probably be a high scoring game since both defenses don't want to play apparently.

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  • Jan 03, 2009 4:50:07 PM CST

    this post makes an even 10

    by xiphos_2

    and moves the TB into a comfortable position with 20 posts for the last 24 hours. It should hold it on the top 10 until somebody else shows up to post.

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  • Jan 03, 2009 4:51:26 PM CST

    AWWW, intereception!

    by xiphos_2

    Well its the beginning of the end for the Cards. It was good run.

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  • Jan 03, 2009 5:01:56 PM CST

    now a TD

    by xiphos_2

    The wheels they are coming off.

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  • Jan 03, 2009 6:07:17 PM CST

    Maybe the wheels haven't come off

    by xiphos_2

    The Cards seem to be winning. SAFETY! Two more points! almost got back the points from the missed field goal.

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  • Jan 03, 2009 6:35:18 PM CST

    Tokyo Gore Police

    by series7

    Is available now on the DVDs in America.

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  • Jan 03, 2009 6:36:10 PM CST

    The Escapist

    by series7

    Has anyone seen this? Its got Hanibel Lecture in it? Sounds pretty cool. Its a blimy brit flick.

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  • Jan 03, 2009 6:42:49 PM CST

    CARDINALS WIN!

    by xiphos_2

    I have to say I'm pleasantly surprised to say the least.

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  • Jan 03, 2009 9:02:17 PM CST

    is everbody busy?

    by xiphos_2

    I've been posting all night(for me) and except for Series, nobody has been around.

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  • Jan 04, 2009 12:21:08 AM CST

    A tip of the cap to JPTs UCONN Huskys

    by xiphos_2

    For thier win in the International bowl. Nice beat down of Buffalo.

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  • Jan 04, 2009 6:44:22 AM CST

    Poor Xiphos, posting all alone!

    by mavra chang

    Yet still kept this in the top ten. Whatta guy!

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  • Jan 04, 2009 11:28:56 AM CST

    You de man Xi

    by toadkillerdog

    Single handedly keeping this TB afloat.

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  • Jan 04, 2009 11:31:13 AM CST

    I loved the Utes beating bama

    by toadkillerdog

    I can not stand, Saban bin Lyin. Chargers over Colts was not a shock, but still it kills Manning vs Manning, which actually is a good thing come to think of it!

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  • Jan 04, 2009 12:22:52 PM CST

    Birds better beat the fish today

    by xiphos_2

    Hey look other people.I dislike Miami because of the way the members of the 72 team act whenever a team comes close to an undfeated season. Well that, and the sheer amount of hot broads that reside in Miami are the two reasons why I dislike the fish. Oh and Dan Marino, what a tool.

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  • Jan 04, 2009 1:32:34 PM CST

    Predictably boring game

    by toadkillerdog

    I do not like the Ravens, but I do like good defense.

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  • Jan 04, 2009 9:46:10 PM CST

    oh no!!!! the TB is dying again!

    by the milf lover

  • Jan 04, 2009 9:46:31 PM CST

    here's some CPR!!

    by the milf lover

  • Jan 04, 2009 9:47:51 PM CST

    Anyone else

    by series7

    going to watch Dear Zachery tonight? I'm sick as shit and will be watching it.

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  • Jan 04, 2009 9:47:57 PM CST

    Xi, Great work with the weekend posting...

    by the milf lover

    too bad nobody else -almost- was around to help...

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  • Jan 04, 2009 9:49:04 PM CST

    Tokyo Gore Police

    by the milf lover

    is only coming out on the 13th of January by the way, but that is indeed good news...

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  • Jan 04, 2009 9:50:19 PM CST

    hey Series! didnt see you there....

    by the milf lover

    nope on the Zachary thing, I dont have cable...
    Hope you feel better soon!

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  • Jan 04, 2009 10:46:14 PM CST

    Well about to start

    by series7

    Zachary now. Good week for having Cable. Like I said earlier Paroniod Park was on IFC and Wassup Rockers will be on later this week. As well as Millions. BUT of course non of those channels are in HD, but TBS IS!!

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  • Jan 05, 2009 12:02:50 AM CST

    a few more posts

    by xiphos_2

    to keep this here thing viable before the Btits get to work.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 12:04:43 AM CST

    Thank you everbody

    by xiphos_2

    for teh compliments but you need to thank the time difference and the fact that sometimes I can't sleep.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 12:09:53 AM CST

    Eagles beat the Vikings

    by xiphos_2

    So when the Cardinals beat the Panthers and The Eagles beat the Giants, the conference final takes place in Glendale AZ. Then the Cardinals go to the Superbowl. Now that would be funny.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:32:45 AM CST

    Dear Zachary

    by series7

    Man, minus the commercials, is such a gut retching story. So many people are to blame for what happened. Its hard to say that this is a must see film, its a impassioned piece of film making like no other, and just so sad.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 4:07:35 AM CST

    A Btit is at work!

    by franklin t marmoset

    One Btit, anyway.I would ramble about the films I have seen over the ought-eight to ought-nine changeover, but I haven't seen much. Except Cliffhanger, which was just okay.Good 2009 tidings to one and all.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 4:58:25 AM CST

    Happy New Year motherfuckers

    by lost jarv

    pah, back at work. New Years resolution: Be more optimistic.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 5:03:09 AM CST

    Good luck with the resolution, Jarv

    by franklin t marmoset

    If you need some help being optimistic, you will be pleased to know that Gilmore Girls will be starting over from the beginning on Wednesday (11.20 on E4).If, as I suspect, that's pushing things a little far for you, I seen in the paper Season 2 of Dexter starts this week. Thursday, I think.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 5:04:05 AM CST

    Hellboy 2

    by lost jarv

    Not overly impressed. Pros: Troll Market was great, Abe Sapien and Elf chick was great, intro was spectacular and there was some excellent comedy and action. Cons: Selma Blair annoyed the shit out of me (again), The Golden Army was a let down, Mcfarlane's gay smoke kraut can suck a fat one, Bros geezer was underwhelming, Not as good as TDK.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 5:04:37 AM CST

    Season 2 Dexter

    by lost jarv

    Excited. Very.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 5:05:20 AM CST

    Starts on ITV, I meant to say

    by franklin t marmoset

    Season 2 of Dexter starts on ITV, possibly this Thursday.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 5:05:47 AM CST

    Red Cliff

    by lost jarv

    I liked the first one, it wasn't the best of the movies that the Donor sent (that would go to either chocolate, Wall-E or Daisy), but it certainly passed the time in an enjoyable way.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 5:06:29 AM CST

    Mummy 3

    by lost jarv

    Crap. Complete crap and not in a fun way.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 5:08:36 AM CST

    Jarv's top 5 of 2008 because he has a meeting to go

    by lost jarv

    to and can't be arsed to do a top 10: THis is UK release date so a bit off. In no particular order- TDK, Wall-E, Doomsday (fuck you all, I like it), The sequel to Central Station that I can't spell, Somerstown.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 5:10:10 AM CST

    I liked the Golden Army

    by franklin t marmoset

    I thought they were some pretty cool design and effects work.And I liked Luke Goss. He makes for a good sympathetic villain, I reckon.Selma Blair I pretty much ignored. I do find her inexplicably attractive (I am not a beanpole fan), but I can't say I've ever been bothered by her one way or another. Except when she kissed Buffy in Cruel Intentions. That was a good kiss.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 5:12:35 AM CST

    Mummy 3 bored me silly

    by franklin t marmoset

    I can't even bring myself to say I hated it.I watched it, I found it very difficult to pay any kind of attention to it, and then I let it slip smoothly out of my memory.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 5:18:28 AM CST

    Hmm, Why am I speaking in the 3rd person?

    by lost jarv

    very strange. Actually, I'm struggling to remember what I've seen this year that was actually released this year. Worst film of the year? Avp:Rectum

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  • Jan 05, 2009 5:19:52 AM CST

    Huzzah!

    by lost jarv

    Meeting cancelled. Going for smoke instead. The golden army was a let down because they'd been built up all film and then it turns out that they're shiny bionicle motherfuckers? puh-lease.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 5:30:09 AM CST

    Bionicle?

    by franklin t marmoset

    I don't know what that is.I thought they did a solid job of creating an army of robots that were original, fit well into the Hellboy world, and looked nothing like Transformers. Also, I thought they looked cool.I wish I had a little wind-up Golden Army robot that could walk around on my desk. Because I am a nerd.P.S. Good luck with the smoke. This time of year is very harsh for us smoker types, what with being banished out into the cold and whatnot.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 5:42:02 AM CST

    I'll just get this out of the way:

    by franklin t marmoset

    I've been watching Celebrity Big Brother. I know I shouldn't. I feel all dirty and wrong when I do it. But there is almost fuck all else on at the moment, and when Gilmore Girls finishes tomorrow, I will have nothing to watch on telly at all.Nothing!What am I supposed to do while I am enjoying my veg-out time in the evening?Looks like I'm going to have to get me some DVD box sets or something. I still haven't seen Seasons 4 and 5 of The Wire. Maybe I can pick those up cheap at the Zavvi wreckage sale.P.S. Verne Troyer to win!

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  • Jan 05, 2009 5:49:51 AM CST

    Fuck Big Brother

    by lost jarv

    fucking airwave pollution for morons. It has managed to severely try my new optimistic self. Verne Troyer should not be in the same room as those fuck monkeys- although it is inspiring me to watch that big brother zombie thing again.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 5:51:56 AM CST

    Bionicle= Transformer rocks

    by lost jarv

    that CITV was pimping when I was off work and trying to watch Batman: TAS. Needless to say, they are 7 different kinds of lame.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 5:57:25 AM CST

    Protege= severely good

    by lost jarv

    yes, it was somewhat predictable, but I didn't care. Assembly was also good, as was Machine Girl (which is currently doing the rounds now in NW1), Did not like The Fall at all. Turned it off after 15 minutes for being pretty and boring. Red Cliff was good, Chocolate was ace, Daisy made Mrs Jarv cry, Invisibe Target was good, but I need to rewatch it because I was pissed when I first saw it. Mongol was so far from what I was expecting, but still fecking good,. Warlords was good, and I haven't watched A Bittersweet Life or Tears of The Black Tiger yet. Hulk was good and Wall E was delightful, and you can fucking quote me on that (Frank).

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  • Jan 05, 2009 5:59:21 AM CST

    The Changeling:

    by lost jarv

    Beyond awful. Trite, contrived, unintentionally funny oscar Bait. I've now read the novel Blindness is based on, and leaving aside the fact that almost everyone in it (especially Julianne Moore) is hopelessly miscast, I think that it is going to be seven shades of awful. It's just so unrelentingly bleak and has the most distressing gang rape in it. Hmph.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 6:02:14 AM CST

    Danny- re: Daybreakers.

    by lost jarv

    No, that's nothing like Ultraviolet. Talking about which, I watched That Demons thingy with whathisname from Life on Mars in it, and have to say...... It's crap. Really, really bad.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 6:04:31 AM CST

    I have quoted you on that (delightful)

    by franklin t marmoset

    I saw Wall E the other week and I thought it was delightful, too.Very good film.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 6:07:54 AM CST

    Funniest TV thing of the 2008

    by lost jarv

    Charlie Brooker's Screenwip 2008. I nearly threw up laughing when they showed footage of a naked arse with eyes drawn on it in front of a microphone over the closing credits "just to annoy the continuity announcer". And then some poor bastard had to read out what was coming next during it. In fact, I'm giggling now just thinking about it.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 6:10:24 AM CST

    And you're right about Big Brother

    by franklin t marmoset

    I'll defend myself about most of my choices, no matter how unpopular, but there's no defense for Big Brother. It's fucking awful and I shouldn't be watching it, but I like to watch a bit of telly in the evenings and there is just nothing on that I give a toss about at the moment.It seemed to be a choice between this and Eastenders or some shit with Gordon Ramsay or Gok Wan.Telly is shit lately.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 6:11:10 AM CST

    I don't find Tom Green funny,

    by lost jarv

    but I love spaced, so I'll be by myself then. Freddy got fingered was truly, truly fucking dreadful.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 6:12:03 AM CST

    Telly tonight.....

    by lost jarv

    Probably endless top gear repeats. But I will check.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 6:14:04 AM CST

    ITV4 is the way forward

    by lost jarv

    Sanctuary 9PM, Serenity 10PM. Or a double criminal minds on Virgin 1.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 6:15:00 AM CST

    Mrs. Jarv was telling me that Ramsey

    by lost jarv

    recenty got caught in a S&M brothel. I want this to be trye.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 6:15:45 AM CST

    Radio Times film ratings are a fucking joke

    by lost jarv

    everything, no matter how shit, has at least 3 stars.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 6:16:14 AM CST

    fucking hate Gok Wan.

    by lost jarv

  • Jan 05, 2009 6:19:39 AM CST

    I haven't seen Sanctuary

    by franklin t marmoset

    Any good?As for Criminal Minds, I watch it from time to time, but only because I'm fascinated by how bad it is. It seems to have been cobbled together entirely out of used cliches, like a blanket made out of old socks.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 6:24:39 AM CST

    I love Freddy Got Fingered

    by franklin t marmoset

    I'm not sure if I love it because it's good, though.For some reason, I like knowing that not only is there a man in the world who thinks up such ridiculous shit, but he's also prepared to film himself doing these stupid things and then show them to the world with no shame whatsoever.I don't know why, but I find that oddly admirable.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 6:32:56 AM CST

    Sanctuary= awful

    by lost jarv

    but amusingly so. I kind of fancy the women in it. Criminal Minds is a ball of cliche's and I stopped watching it after Inigo Montoya left, but it's probably the best of a pretty poor bunch.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 6:40:02 AM CST

    or there's endless CSI marathons on 5US

    by lost jarv

    not great. They really need to stop showing that pish Darkness Falls over and over again.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 6:46:08 AM CST

    Jarv

    by jonah echo

    I was with you on the movies, until you said you turned off The Fall. Consider giving it another chance. I thought it was probably the best movie of the year, or one of them anyway.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 6:48:31 AM CST

    I know I probably should give it another try

    by lost jarv

    so I will. I'm not unreasonable. I was probably in totally the wrong frame of mind to watch it.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 6:51:26 AM CST

    That mainstream cop stuff is not for me

    by franklin t marmoset

    CSI, Law & Order, Criminal Minds, all that stuff does nothing for me. I also tried to watch Bones, on account of the Buffy connection, but couldn't I even get through one episode. Just not my cup of tea at all.The Wire is great, and I'm looking forward to the last season of The Shield.Also, Darkness Falls is awful. I've seen far too many bad films because of my weakness for the Buffy cast, and that is one of them. So boring.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 6:55:37 AM CST

    A Bittersweet Life is another solid movie Jarv

    by just pillow talk

    Daisy is still probably my favorite Hawaiian special.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 6:57:35 AM CST

    watched Iron Man again with Mrs. Pillow...

    by just pillow talk

    Happy to report that Mrs. Pillow liked it, and I have grown to like it even more after the third viewing. That movie is a perfect example of what a comic book movie should be. And I have no problem with a 'weaker' villain, much like in Batman Begins, because the focus is on the hero in the first outing.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 6:58:34 AM CST

    I was ecstatic to find at Target, Predator for, get this..

    by just pillow talk

    $5.50. I nearly jumped up and down with joy in the store upon this most awesome discovery.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 7:00:15 AM CST

    Kung Fu Panda

    by just pillow talk

    Picked that up for $10. I showed it to my bear, which made him very angry. This most definitely helped my commute in as he took it out on a bunch of commuters and shaved off, by my calculations, 8 1/2 minutes from my commute. The movie itself was rather funny.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 7:01:07 AM CST

    muchas gracias Xi on the Uconn win...

    by just pillow talk

    If they didn't turn the ball over so much in the first half, they would have won by 5 touchdowns. All twenty points that Buffalo scored were directly off of turnovers.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 7:02:02 AM CST

    congrats on the Cards' win...

    by just pillow talk

    Who knows, maybe they can give Carolina a tough time. I would laugh if they somehow beat them.AFC games are much more intriguing to me than the NFC ones.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 7:03:39 AM CST

    time for some coffee...

    by just pillow talk

    Jonah, I didn't get to Cyborg or Sinking of Japan this weekend (mostly due to football and not being home on Saturday). I think I'll try and watch Cyborg tonight.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 7:08:52 AM CST

    ahh...darkness falls

    by jonah echo

    Darkness Falls was terrible. I recall seeing it at a theater in 2003, one of the first movies I saw with my wife when were dating. Woeful. I distinctly recall a group of thug kids sitting in the third of fourth row from the front yelling “Eat’em Blair Witch! Eat’em!”

    But bringing up Darkness Falls draws attention to a current dilemma for me. The January horror movie dump. For some reason, right after the holidays and that flood of arty oscar bait drama stuff, I get this ravenous hunger for some horror. It doesn’t even need to be high-brow. And every year there are, sure enough, several horror movies for me to choose from because studios always release horror in that month(usually in greater volume than even October) and usually those movies are disasters, already abandoned by their studio, stars and director.

    Last year, happily for me, among the One Missed Calls and The Eyes, there was Cloverfield and The Orphanage, which made my January horror experience quite sweet indeed. This year it looks more dubious, with The Unborn and My Bloody Valentine 3D heading up the stuff that looks interesting. And there is Underworld, which is drawing me on the singular fact that the three headliners are Rhona Mitra, Bill Nighy and Michael Sheen. The fact I thought the previous two were lame isn’t comforting though.

    Also, whats with all the “Un” movies. Just the other day, in addition to Unborn I saw a trailer for Uninvited, which looks pretty lame. Where is Unwatchable?

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  • Jan 05, 2009 7:11:37 AM CST

    Underworld isn't horror

    by lost jarv

    I don't know what it is, but I wouldn't say horror. Blindness, on the other hand, is Horror, and really fucking horrifying if it is remotely like the book. Sort of Satan's version of One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 7:12:23 AM CST

    I watched Eraser last night, and while not vintage Arnie

    by lost jarv

    I quite enjoyed it.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 7:14:35 AM CST

    no, you are right Jarv..

    by jonah echo

    but it has that genre feel, and b-movie allure. It's more in the dark fantasy/action/dreck genre. But hey that worked nicely for Doomsday.

    Blindness the movie was pretty bleak and sadly not too interesting as a film.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 7:15:38 AM CST

    anyone here see The Signal?

    by jonah echo

    That was another horror from last winter that I was pretty pleased with. I recommend it.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 7:18:14 AM CST

    primeval

    by jonah echo

    Started feeding the monster/b-movie urge by watching eps of Primeval. My wife and I caught the first three or four the other day. I’m amused so far. The fx are slightly better than one of those discovery channel “walking with dinosaurs” specials and way better than your average sci-fi channel original.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 7:22:23 AM CST

    Stop it Jonah, seriously, trust me on this

    by lost jarv

    put Primeval down, turn around and back away slowly. It's an epic shitbomb of awfulness and shows the absolute lack of talent in ITV. Julianne Moore is The Doctor's wife isn't she? that is horribly miscast. How did they do they gang rape sequences?

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  • Jan 05, 2009 7:23:22 AM CST

    Frank will back me up on this one.

    by lost jarv

    Honestly, if you're going to watch British TV watch Doctor Who, but only certain episodes (Blink). Avoid anything written by Russel T Davies, and almost all of the 3rd season.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 7:24:44 AM CST

    BTW- I read Watchmen and Dark Knight Returns

    by lost jarv

    and DKR is better. By a long way. Although neither exactly rocked my casbah.The squid is fucking stupid and they were right to get rid of it.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 7:34:21 AM CST

    I can't back you on that one, Jarv

    by franklin t marmoset

    I haven't watched Dr Who regularly since I was a kid (the Tom Baker days). I saw a couple with Christopher Ecclestone, which were okay, and a couple with that other guy, who I couldn't stand. Does he have to be so fucking enthusiastic about everything?British telly just doesn't have the budget to do justice to a show like that. I always end up comparing it to American equivalents like Buffy (Russell T Davis is apparently a huge Joss Whedon fan) and Battlestar Galactica, and there's no contest. The Yanks beat us at that kind of stuff every time.I think my favourite bit of recent British telly is The IT Crowd, which is old-fashioned but always makes me laugh. Moss is comedy gold.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 7:37:53 AM CST

    The Dark Returns is pretty good for a comic

    by franklin t marmoset

    Still, I can't help thinking that being voted 'Best Comic' is roughly on a par with being voted 'Prettiest Girl At Fat Camp'.It's an achievement, but not one worth getting too excited about.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 7:42:52 AM CST

    hehehe- very true Frank

    by lost jarv

    I've got no understanding of the medium and therefore suspect I'm not the person to be discussing them. Doctor Who was comfortably the best thing British telly has done in ages, the IT crowd fluctuates between hilarious and fucking awful. British TV is fucking dire.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 7:43:31 AM CST

    I really am looking forward to Iron Man II

    by franklin t marmoset

    These comic book films always seem to nail it with the second one, and now Iron Man's origin is out of the way, I've got my fingers crossed for a lot more Iron Man action in number two.The lack of full-on Iron Man in suit, flying around and blowing stuff up with his hand thingys is one of my few complaints about the first one.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 7:44:30 AM CST

    Buffy= overrated as fuck

    by lost jarv

    I was never totally in love with it. However, I would watch every episode of it back to back rather than sit through a single gilmore girls episode.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 7:48:32 AM CST

    patience Frankie...

    by just pillow talk

    One would also think maybe Tony Stark will have a keg-o-mater inserted into the suit for the second one as he goes down the path of alcoholism....if they choose to go that route.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 7:49:15 AM CST

    British TV is great...

    by franklin t marmoset

    ...if you like shows about doing up houses, or shows where people criticise members of the public for various reasons (crap singers, crap restaurants, crap clothes, crap business ideas, crap diets, etc.).Otherwise, it really is fucking dire.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 7:49:30 AM CST

    fuck..those are not good choices...

    by just pillow talk

    Though since I'm more for the fuckability of Buffy, I'd go with that one.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 7:50:33 AM CST

    why, I think that describes American TV as well

    by just pillow talk

    just add spin-off upon spin-off of some (insert show name) law/cop show.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 7:53:20 AM CST

    lookee here...already up to #2

    by just pillow talk

    Jarv's mention of Chocolate reminded me that I still need to get those discs back from a co-worker. And I really liked Invisible Target. Since Hawaiian sent me that one too, I'll watch it again but I highly doubt my enjoyment of it will change.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 7:53:52 AM CST

    Does Iron Man have any good villains?

    by lost jarv

    seriously. He needs one for the second movie. And Alcoholism does not count.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 7:54:09 AM CST

    I demand an alcoholic Iron Man!

    by franklin t marmoset

    Do you hear me, Jon Favreau and your platoon of film studio sponsers!I want to see Tony Stark trying to fight off a super-villain while also vomiting inside his iron suit!I want to see the suit short-circuit because Tony has pissed down his own leg!Also, some sort of dancing scene would be good. All comic book films should have a dancing scene.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 7:56:40 AM CST

    good things on british TV that aren't repeats or clip shows

    by lost jarv

    erm, shit, erm, Help. I watched Channel 5's best films of the 80's as voted for by the great unwashed and was fucking HORRIFIED by the list. No Blade Runner, The Thing, Die Hard, Total Recall, Predator, etc. Possibly the most convincing argument against democracy I've seen in ages.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 7:59:20 AM CST

    you don't Frank

    by lost jarv

    Alcoholic Tony Stark would equal drama and heavyness, which is the polar opposite of your tastes. I watched FF again the other day, because it was on, and it is worse than I thought.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 7:59:26 AM CST

    I'm not arguing about Buffy or Gilmore Girls anymore

    by franklin t marmoset

    Buffy is long over, and GG ends tomorrow.Man, what will I do with no more Gilmore Girls to watch?I could take up knitting, I suppose...

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  • Jan 05, 2009 7:59:42 AM CST

    off to a meeting.

    by lost jarv

    Toodles, chaps.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 8:01:54 AM CST

    Happy New Years everyone

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Wow, lots to chew here.Jarv, I'm pleased to hear that you enjoyed most of the films I sent you. Sounds like you really plowed through them over the holidays.You must be almost finished the second batch of movies, JPT. I enjoyed Protege myself. I thought it was grimy and gritty as hell. And you just don't see enough guys getting their hand beaten off with a sledgehammer.I really put a dent in the Oscar bait.The Wrestler - not quite as good as I was expecting but solid film. Probably the most realistic dialogue in a movie this year.Gran Torino - a lot of Clint grumbling and scowling. Good movie but the actors they used to play his neighbors were beyond bad and every time they were on screen it pulled me out of the film.Tell No One - who knew the French could make such a solid thriller. Confusing at times but it all comes together in the end.Pineapple Express - not quite as funny as I expected but entertaining. A little too over the top, even for a stoner comedy.And then the non-Oscar stuff.Appaloosa - I can't believe how disappointed I was with this turd. The dialogue, the story, the acting was flat. Renee Zellweger was excruciatingly bad. I didn't think it was possible for a western to be this bad.Ghost Town - cute, cliche, predictable romcom. Without Ricky Gervais it would have been mediocre.Ip Man - Milf is right about this one. It's a fine, fine film. Reminded me a lot of Fearless, but without the wire fu, and in reverse. Donnie Yen went from being a pacifist to a skull cracker. He takes on 10 Japanese soldiers in one scene and he pounds them into hamburger. Wonderful stuff.My best of list is still unchanged. As much as I enjoyed stuff like The Wrestler and Gran Torino, they just weren't top ten material to me.Congratulations go out to the Cardinals and Chargers. Unfortunately, that's as far as either team will go.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 8:05:49 AM CST

    Believe it or not, I am a fan of drama and heavyness

    by franklin t marmoset

    For some reason, on AICN I have boxed myself into the corner of being the guy who likes silly juvenile garbage, but that's only occasionally the case. I think it's just more fun to talk about silly juvenile garbage on the internets.Mind you, I don't want too much heavyness in an Iron Man film. I just want Iron Man in part two to be like Bad Santa in an iron super suit. Bad Santa could do some serious damage with an iron super suit.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 8:11:26 AM CST

    I demand Iron Man have a dog on a string!

    by franklin t marmoset

    Also, he should hang out outside the Marriott here in Bristol, by the warm air vents with all the other alkies.And the villain should be some random guy he gets into a drunken argument with, and Iron Man's side of the argument will be garbled and utterly incoherent!Because of the booze!!

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  • Jan 05, 2009 8:17:12 AM CST

    New super-power for Iron Man:

    by franklin t marmoset

    AN OVERPOWERING STENCH OF URINE!

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  • Jan 05, 2009 8:19:20 AM CST

    Hawaiian and Protege

    by just pillow talk

    My main problem is how the film opens: with him in his uniform in her apartment. Right from the get-go you know he's going to live, which took away a bit from the drama from me because I didn't fear for his life. That being said, I did still enjoy it and like I had mentioned above, the scene at the end with the little girl and him really tears my heart out. I also liked his reasoning for keeping Nick alive: a cop wouldn't have jumped. That whole scene was probably my favorite, and I laughed when his assistant just jumped. Splat!

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  • Jan 05, 2009 8:21:21 AM CST

    Iron Man villains...

    by just pillow talk

    Sort of the easiest route they can go is to have the Armor wars like in the comics. His technology gets out there to others who are using it, and Tony decides to go and find each one of them and destroy that technology.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 8:29:54 AM CST

    Iron Man villains...

    by franklin t marmoset

    Clearly, the best way to go is with a new villain what I have just made up (by myself):The nefarious Dr 12 Step!Dr 12 Step will try to force Tony into a program to control his alcoholism, but little will Tony know that this program is actually an insidious attempt to lure him into Christianity.It's a trap! (as Admiral Ackbar would say)But Tony will fight back for the American way - the American way being the God-given right to get as god damn drunk as he god damn wants to! He is a billionnaire and he has earned the right to get all fucked up on cheap hooch and wreck up the place with his super suit and accidentally kill a maid or two!

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  • Jan 05, 2009 8:35:18 AM CST

    Necessary adjustments to the iron suit for Iron Man II:

    by franklin t marmoset

    An iron bottle attached to the outside of Iron Man's helmet, which will drip feed him the finest whiskeys money can buy through a system similar to the one used to feed hamsters and gerbils.Also, some sort of mouth hole through which Tony can chain smoke cigarettes and, when he's really drunk, those cheap, god-awful cigars you can buy in pubs.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 8:37:17 AM CST

    The Signal

    by series7

    Man I was fucking so excited to see that movie. Since I heard about it maybe 2 years before it finally came to dvd thanks to Harry (same thing happened with Nightwatch). And I think I overhyped it in my head. 2 years is a LONG time to wait with anticipation. I like that its an indie film, and if anyone ever tackles The Walking Dead comic I would like to see these guys given a shot at it. But the first part was awesome and the rest was Meh.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 8:38:38 AM CST

    in that case frankie

    by jonah echo

    Gary Busey could be the villain of the piece..The HOOCHMONGER.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 8:42:33 AM CST

    Series, I agree but..

    by jonah echo

    I'd argue the first segment and the second segment were good,with the third being unecessary. The reason for the dip in quality? Three different directors for each segment.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 8:43:03 AM CST

    that should have said

    by jonah echo

    3 different directors, one for each segment.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 8:49:14 AM CST

    I see where you're going, Jonah

    by franklin t marmoset

    You're more interested in a battle between alcoholics in super suits, which is a valid choice. Plenty of opportunities for chaotic destruction with that one.During the climactic battle, there would be a lot of headlocks involved, while one of them would find their trousers falling down around their ankles, although I'm not too sure how that would work with iron trousers.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 8:57:01 AM CST

    or after Busey

    by jonah echo

    to mix it up, replace The Mandarin with Manundertheinfluence played by Nick Nolte, who when really blasted by drugs cosorts with a big green dragon. Nolte is old hat at the superhero thing after being in the visionary masterpiece of this current decade, Hulk.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 8:58:31 AM CST

    "Don't you see, Tony..."

    by franklin t marmoset

    "This is a fight you can't win! You're so pissed off your face you have a plastic wastebasket on your head and the Iron Man suit is not properly covering your ass!""Aaaahhhh... faack youse, Pepper... fackin slag. I'll mess up any man... OR WOMAN!... with my new, umproved helmet design. THISH ISH THE MOSHT AWESHOMEST HELMET... EVER! And if you keep tryin' to bring me down, woman... I'll iron slap your FACE!"

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:02:49 AM CST

    The Signal

    by xiphos_2

    I liked the first and third segments but teh second segment was jarring in it's change of tone that it almost ruined the entire movie. It showed a lot of potential though.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:04:10 AM CST

    I like that idea, Jonah

    by franklin t marmoset

    An entire team of drunk, fucked up super villains, all played by famous drunk, fucked up Hollywood actors. That's genius.You could also get Mel Gibson and Charlie Sheen in there, and possibly Christian Slater (who was once so drunk he bit a copper on the belly). The Hoff would also be a natural choice. I would very much enjoy seeing him re-stage his moving short film 'I Am So Fucked Up I Can't Even Eat A Burger' in the context of an effects-heavy summer blockbuster.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:07:27 AM CST

    Fuck that was boring

    by lost jarv

    I wonder if I can go home now....

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:08:50 AM CST

    re Armor Wars

    by lost jarv

    fucking horrid idea. That sounds like Transformers. How terminally lame, anyway, they sort of did that in the first film. Has he got no actual villains?

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:13:04 AM CST

    Damn

    by series7

    Thought I was going to work today then on the way out my breakfast decided that it wanted out of my body the way it got into my body. So looks like I am still sick and staying home. Going back to sleep now.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:14:46 AM CST

    The Signal

    by series7

    Yeah I knew about the three separate directors. But they all pretty much worked with each other, the making of was interesting because indie movie making of are always better then big budget, because it makes you think that you could do it to! Also if you are looking for a good Indie movie horrorish film check out the film Murder Party its very good and very funny.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:15:36 AM CST

    fucking got to go and fix a computer now

    by lost jarv

    I'm a marketing whore for fuck's sake. Just because I'm better than the rest of the idiots doesn't mean I'm any good. This shit is severely interfering with me goofing off.Where's our fucking nerd when you need him? See you soon.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:20:14 AM CST

    "Has he got no actual villains?"

    by rickey henderson

    What about that dragon that wears pants? Fing-fang-fuckhead or something like that?

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:23:49 AM CST

    Lost Jarv

    by kungfuhustler84

    you NEED to see Tears of the Tiger next for Hawaiian's batch next. It's a great candy-coated cowboy movie from Thailand and it's badass.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:24:52 AM CST

    humph...maybe Iron Man can fight

    by just pillow talk

    a pissy British marketing whore instead.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:28:33 AM CST

    let him try

    by lost jarv

    I can take the alky cunt.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:28:56 AM CST

    HOD

    by dannyglovers_dickblood


    You're the only person other than a good friend of mine to say Appaloosa was shit. I haven't seen it. But the way he described it, I doubt I ever will.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:28:56 AM CST

    Dark Knight Returns

    by kungfuhustler84

    I really loved it the first time I read it, but upon a second reading I started seeing and it lost a lot of its previous vigor. Like the whole thing with the "mutant" leader was just stupid, typical Frank Miller, as-close-to-retarded-as-a-writer-can-get shit. It's a great deal more melodramatic, yet nowhere near as dense as Watchmen, where I discovered something brand new every time I re-read it. And the squid thing didn't bother me as much since there were hints it was coming for awhile, and I was more distracted by all the dead people all over the city.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:29:48 AM CST

    this shit is severely trying my new years resolution

    by lost jarv

    but, I'm going home in 10 minutes and can be late tomorrow so HUZZAH!

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:31:30 AM CST

    Iron Man needs more drama and tension....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...that was my problem with it upon second viewing at home. No one ever feels like they are in danger. Even in Afghanistan-- it never actually feels like anything bad will happen to anyone. The scene with Bridges and Gwyneth in Tony's office when she is exporting the files should have been tense as fuck. He never felt that scary. Just felt more like a pervert. I thought he would jerk off in front of her before he would hurt her.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:31:36 AM CST

    that's supposed to say

    by kungfuhustler84

    I started seeing *a lot of problems* and it lost a lot of its previous vigor

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:31:58 AM CST

    The Mutant Leader

    by lost jarv

    I didn't get that- am I being stupid. Is he just a normal guy that's a bit tasty or is he some sort of GM freak. Anyway, how come Batman got his ass handed to him, but then when they're mud wrestling wins? That wasn't the dumbest thing. The dumbest was the Joker breaking his own neck. Having said all that I do want to see The Spirit.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:32:04 AM CST

    Hey, we're #1 again

    by franklin t marmoset

    Fuck Terminator toys!

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:33:32 AM CST

    Iron Man

    by lost jarv

    Totally agree. On second viewing it had a lot more problems. I never thought Stark was in any danger, even when Bridges removed his heart.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:33:56 AM CST

    well of to that crazy, crazy job again

    by kungfuhustler84

    free coffee is the bees knees

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:34:32 AM CST

    good luck Mr. Kung.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jan 05, 2009 9:35:54 AM CST

    Danny

    by rickey henderson

    What, you mean to tell Rickey that villains on segways do not scare you? Yeah, the lack of tension bugged Rickey too. It seemed like everything and everyone in the movie was nothing more than an elaborate set piece for Stark to become Iron Man. There was no depth--it was just a typical origin movie with a lot of exposition.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:36:26 AM CST

    biggest plot hole I've seen in a while:

    by lost jarv

    Fantastic Four- whatshisname gets de-thinged, but only because Dr. Doom is able to amp up the power supply. Then he gets twatted, and doom fucks off. So he re-things himself. How the fuck does he do this when he needed Doom to power the cosmic storm in a box? eh? makes no sense. None. Superman Returns was also on and I watched it again having seen all the raving about it by node and..... It's worse than ANg Lee's Hulk. It's worse than FF, It's worse than (Yup, I'm going to say it) Superman 4, Spiderman 3 and is unquestionably the worst superhero movie ever.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:37:30 AM CST

    yeah...or the Afghanistan cave....no fucking danger.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    He has that cute little Gepetto side-kick guy for a friend. Why the fuck did he need a buddy in there? It would have been much scarier if he was all alone in that shit hole and they came in and beat on him every once in awhile. Gepetto guy made it feel too cozy. When you're in solitary you go fucking crazy. But he had a pal to say all this encouraging shit about family and all that. Just too family film feeling for me.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:38:13 AM CST

    scariest thing in Iron Man was Jeff Bridges' tits...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...those things are fucking awesome.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:38:55 AM CST

    I watched some terrible dreck over the last 3 weeks

    by lost jarv

    Jesus. I also rewatched cube. Which is fucking brilliant.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:40:01 AM CST

    They leaned too hard on their plot points, I reckon

    by franklin t marmoset

    I liked Iron Man a lot, but they were awfully heavy handed about settings things up, which may have cause the lack of tension people are talking about.Bridges as the villain was painfully obvious (the only way to make it more obvious whould have been to have some guy standing next to him wearing an 'I'm With The Bad Guy' T-shirt. And the bit where Pepper gave Tony the 'heart' in the plastic box was just as bad. Hmmm... I wonder if that'll be important later in the film?

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:41:06 AM CST

    The mud wrestling fight

    by kungfuhustler84

    I guess Frank Miller's logic was that he got a lot more dirty with the way he was fighting and he jumped in with much less planning. I don't know, Dark Knight Returns just gets a lot more stupid to me every time I think about it again. It's not bad by any means. It's a fun Batman story with some great ideas and it's pretty well executed overall. I think the comparisons to Watchmen are based on the shared commentaries on vigilantism and fascism, but other than that, I am lost on why the two are always compared. Watchmen isn't my Bible or anything like with some of the people on this site, but Dark Knight Returns is sort of a funny joke in comparison. I really don't care to spend all day defending Watchmen though. I just think Dark Knight Returns is not that good.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:43:28 AM CST

    and while we're tearing into Iron Man....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...was anyone else massively disappointed with the scene where Iron Man is supposed to kick major ass in Afghanistan? That scene was such a fucking let down. I'm not interested in his little fucking missiles that come out of his shoulder. I wanted to see him pick up one of the goons and throw him through a fucking brick wall. His weaponry just did not impress me. It all looked so pussy. And the big finale is that firing at the tank and slowly walking toward camera (via pointless motion capture instead of a guy in suit) a shot we had seen 5,000 times by that point. And thats supposed to be the big roaring jump out of your seat moment? Just very flat stuff. There is a serious problem when the most enjoyable scene is Tony playing craps.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:44:37 AM CST

    Hey D.Vader...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...hurry up and come the fuck back.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:46:34 AM CST

    They definitely needed more Iron Man

    by franklin t marmoset

    By which I mean, more Iron Man flying about and wrecking up the place.Still a good film, though. Downey was great, the tone is just right for a comic book film, and I love the design of the suit.Hopefully, we'll see more of that in part two.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:47:29 AM CST

    this sounds terrible:

    by lost jarv

    "Stark loses control of Stark International, becomes a homeless alcoholic vagrant and gives up his armored identity to Rhodes, who becomes the new Iron Man for a lengthy period of time. Eventually, Stark recovers and joins a new startup, Circuits Maximus. Stark concentrates on new technological designs, including building a new set of armor as part of his recuperative therapy." Yuck. I hope they don't do that.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:50:54 AM CST

    that would have sounded okay with Howard....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ....but fuck Cheadle. That guy is a total fucking pussy. And I pray he does the role with his Ocean's British accent.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:51:36 AM CST

    Fin Fang Foom:

    by lost jarv

    "Although once believed to be a native of the Valley of the Sleeping Dragon in China, the creature later known as Fin Fang Foom is an alien being from the world of Kakaranathara (also known as Maklu IV) in the Maklu system of the Greater Magellanic Cloud. The alien and several other members of his race originally depart from their peaceful homeworld with the intention of conquering other planets. The alien, as a member of the starship's crew, serves as the navigator. The alien dragons land on Earth in ancient China, and the crew used their natural shapeshifting powers to mimic human form, intent on entering and studying human society before beginning their conquest. The alien navigator was the exception, and acting as reserve is placed in a tomb and given a herb that places him in a catatonic state. [2]" Huzzah. leathered Iron Man fights Ancient chinese ALien dragon. GOLD!

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:53:49 AM CST

    Iron Man has shit villains

    by lost jarv

    I've just been reading the list. They're all crap. Even the Mandarin, except I think Favreau's used that one.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:54:36 AM CST

    My Name is Bruce already used Fing Fang Foom....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...and called him Wan-Di. "WAN-DI IS HIS NAME.....WAN YOU, WAN ME, WAN-DI.....WAN-DI IS HIS NAME!"

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:00:12 AM CST

    off home

    by lost jarv

    fuck this. I'm freezing and am going to drink beer and watch Army of Darkness. Mrs. Jarv bought me "If Chins Could Kill" for Christmas. Because she rocks.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:01:18 AM CST

    wow...

    by just pillow talk

    WTF with the Iron Man bashing? Clearly they weren't going for the serious tone of say, TDK, it was lighter fare of the comic book genre. I still love it ya cunty bastards. Speaking of Cheadle, did anyone see Traitor?

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:03:06 AM CST

    and when he first landed again in Afghanistan

    by just pillow talk

    with his new suit, he did punch a guy like fifty feet against a wall. And he did pull that dude through the wall and throw him at the feet of the Afghans..."he's all yours".

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:03:08 AM CST

    Traitor looks like dog shit.....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ....that movie has been done a thousand fucking times starring better actors. I still like Iron Man....sorta. And I understand the tone. It was a lighter film. But that doesn't mean there can't be any sense of danger or tension at all. I saw Bridge To Terabithia the other day, and it had a hell of a lot more danger and emotion than Iron Man.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:03:48 AM CST

    If Chins Could Kill is a fantastic read.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    You'll be giggling the whole time and feel like a kid again.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:13:01 AM CST

    he punched a guy...really?

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Thats weird I totally don't remember that and I just watched this like a month ago. That scene was terribly disappointing and the Iron Man voice sounds like dog shit. The way he flies in or whatever was handled wrong. It could have been epic if the guy was beating on the dad and he leans back for a swing and Iron Man just grabs the dude by the throat and flings him through a wall, followed by 10 minutes of raw ass kicking. I think the mocap shit really ruined it. His movement is very shitty in that scene and never once looks like a guy in a real suit moving around. And there is never a bad ass music cue. The music really killed the momentum that scene should have had as well.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:14:39 AM CST

    no different to me than the Hellboy movies

    by just pillow talk

    which I love too. I would not exactly say I fear for the lives of any of them either. I think, at least for comic book movies, TDK is really the only one that has a high level of tension since they actually went out and killed characters (Rachel, Commissioner, Judge), showing that there was real danger within the film. Just like I love the first two Blade movies, but Blade himself you never fear for.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:16:27 AM CST

    Happy F'ing New Year, Gents

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Back at work and I'm goddamn busy. I trust everyone had a good christmas and new years.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:17:37 AM CST

    well, this is probably just an excuse for that scene

    by just pillow talk

    but the dude hasn't been in the suit for very long, nor has he practiced much, nor does he know how to fight either. To say that he would immediately be a bad ass is an impossible feat I think. Not that that's the real reason for how the scene played out, but I'm just saying he still did remarkably well for someone who didn't know squat about flying in an armor suit or fighting a terrorist unit.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:18:40 AM CST

    hey droid

    by just pillow talk

    Much like you, fucking thrilled to be back at work.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:22:25 AM CST

    I'm with JPT on this one

    by franklin t marmoset

    A bit more action would have been nice, but the film focused more on Tony Stark and his journey toward becoming Iron Man, which was just fine with me.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:22:43 AM CST

    I'm not saying fear the main guy will die....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...or any of the main characters really. Of course they are not gonna kill anyone in the first film. But I'm talking actual dramatic tension-- it had none whatsoever. You know John McClane isn't going to die. But you should feel that this is world where it could happen. Thats what makes a film with action interesting. And Blade won't die, of course....but Frost was fucking terrifying and you had no doubt he would tear through anything in his path. A villain should be scary regardless of the tone of the film or the target audience. There are several kids films of recent years with far more genuine tension than Iron Man.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:24:45 AM CST

    What the hell time is this to be starting work, droid?

    by franklin t marmoset

    Lazy bastard.Some of us are going home in an hour!

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:27:17 AM CST

    I wish Frankie

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    I've been so goddamn busy I have only just logged into AICN! How dare work restrict my ability to procrastinate!

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:29:19 AM CST

    Jonah Echo

    by xiphos_2

    If you're looking to scratch a horror itch try out this low budget British movie called The Zombie Diaries. I would not call it a good movie overall, but it did have some real intersting chapters, I guess you would call it, in the movie.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:29:52 AM CST

    yeah, but origin films a vast majority of the time

    by just pillow talk

    don't work like that. I do get what you are saying Danny, but Iron Man worked for me just the way it was. I would expect more from a second film, but as an initial foray into the Iron Man universe, I thought it was great.Look at how they expanded and darkened Batman's universe with TDK? I highly doubt the second one would go into that territory, but there is the opportunity to venture into darkness with Tony and the bottle. But with the next villain, I'm not sure which direction they can go and have a scary villain.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:30:12 AM CST

    The most notable thing about 2008 for me is...

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    How many people fucking died! I know people die every year, but this year has been particularly shit for losing cool people. Such as...Paul Newman, Michael Crichton, Brad Renfro, Heath Ledger, Roy Scheider, Anthony Minghella, Richard Widmark, Charlton Heston, Sydney Pollack, Harvey Korman, Stan Winston, George Carlin, Bernie Mac, Isaac Hayes, Don LaFontaine, John Michael Hayes, Robert Prosky, Van Johnson, Robert Mulligan, Eartha KittAmong many others!

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:35:45 AM CST

    yeah...I still like Iron Man.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    But I think that is 97.5% due to Downey. Without him that movie would have most likely been trashed. I was seriously surprised how cheap it felt at home. Not that thats necessarily a bad thing.....but it just felt like a totally different movie at the theater. Weird.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:37:29 AM CST

    I think they need to make up a villain....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...the Iron Man villains are pretty much shit. They need some bad ass South American Dictator as the head baddie. I wanna see Iron Man in the jungle.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:39:48 AM CST

    I agree with that...invent some new villain

    by just pillow talk

    Or I guess they can borrow a villain from the Avengers gallery.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:40:44 AM CST

    and there is no dispute that RDJ made the film

    by just pillow talk

    It was his.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:44:10 AM CST

    The main thing that annoyed me in IM

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    was the unnecessary flash forward to begin the film. It's like some exec went... "I'm bored. Where's the action?"The movie would've flowed better if they had just played it out in the conventional way.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:44:11 AM CST

    Downey definitely elevated Iron Man

    by franklin t marmoset

    I don't agree that it would have been bad without him, but it would probably have been more of a generic action/comic book film.As to the cheapness, I don't think they had an especially huge budget - not up with the likes of Superman Returns and Spider-Man 3, anyway - and that situation is likely to be remedied with the sequel. It did pretty well at the box office, so Marvel will most likely chuck a bit more money at the second one.It's going to be good, I reckon. In fact, I'm calling it right now - Iron Man II: Inserting Some Kind Of Iron Piston Into Your Eyeballs in 2010!

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:46:15 AM CST

    RDJ on IRON MAN....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    "THAT ASSHOLE IS MINE!!"

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:47:20 AM CST

    I was pretty surprised to find out...

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Hancock made more money worldwide that IM. No one I know loved Hancock. Shows the "star power" of Smith.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:48:36 AM CST

    I possibly take that back about the budget

    by franklin t marmoset

    Boxofficemojo says the budget was $140 million, which seems like a shitload to me, but I can't tell with these big films anymore.Hellboy II 'only' cost $85 million and was far more impressive visually, so maybe Danny has a point.Shit, now I feel like I'm bashing Iron Man and I don't want to bash Iron Man.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:48:48 AM CST

    yeah, it's like they wanted to throw action

    by just pillow talk

    immediately on the screen to try and draw you in, as if they weren't confident enough that the rest of the movie would. Though I guess they really wanted to establish Downey and his smugness right from the get-go.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:49:09 AM CST

    Iron Man

    by xiphos_2

    I think what would be interesting to see in future movies, that was in the comics, is all the different types of armor Tony Stark made. Iron Man has underwater, recon, space etc. If some of those made it into the movie it would be cool to see. I always liked the blacked out recon armor. It would be a great visual for the movie.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:49:39 AM CST

    Iron Man's budget....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    The budget was over 120 mill. I know that. So its not like they were hurting. Thats what I'm saying...what the fuck is up with all the mocap? That is some of the most expensive visual effects you can have. The cost per frame is unbelievably costly. So they seriously couldn't have a guy in a fucking suit walking toward the camera like a bad ass after he fires the missile at the tank? Surely if they toned down the mocap and went more practical like Favs lied about doing, then they could have spent more money elsewhere-- like on the final battle, or hiring an actual composer and not some fucking nobody with an electric guitar and musical sensibilities from the grunge movement circa 1992.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:49:52 AM CST

    Will Smith name > Iron Man recognition

    by just pillow talk

    So even with quality not being equal, it didn't matter in that case.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:51:41 AM CST

    oh shit, you're right Xi

    by just pillow talk

    I forgot about the recon black armor. Yeah, I remember that being a recurring theme: the constant upgrade of his armor.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:53:08 AM CST

    nothing wrong with the grunge movement

    by just pillow talk

    Vs. is a great album. Stone Temple Pilots...Alice in Chains...Soundgarden. What's wrong with the grunge movement?

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:55:16 AM CST

    I love the grunge movement....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Vedder is a God and Cobain practically raised me. Low budget grungy guitar for a big comic film is lame. It felt like something Frank Miller would do. And I think the music is what really hurt the flying scenes. Everyone was raving about it having a Rocketeer feel. Uhhhh no. Rocketeer's magic of flying was powerful because of the amazing score that feels like you're flying just to listen to.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:56:17 AM CST

    but with all that said....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ....Iron Man 2 does have a chance of being amazing. It just worries me Favs is directing. I wished they had moved on to someone better.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:59:25 AM CST

    Should've got Ang Lee for IM2

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    and got Nolte as Starks father.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:59:48 AM CST

    I, too, confess to a grunge love

    by franklin t marmoset

    Especially Soundgarden and Pearl Jam.I think I have to watch Iron Man again when I get home to see whether Danny's right. I hope not, because I really like that film.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 11:01:01 AM CST

    I_am_not_the_droid

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I agree with Nolte as Starks' father. But Ang is all wrong for this. He is too anti-weaponry. Honestly...I would loved to have seen a Michael Mann, Iron Man movie.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 11:02:51 AM CST

    Fingers crossed for a Spider-Man-ish leap in quality

    by franklin t marmoset

    Solid, enjoyable first film (which spends most of its time focusing on the origin but disappoints slightly with the action) followed by a much improved second film.I'm hoping that's the way it goes for Iron Man II, too.He he. Iron Man tutu.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 11:04:17 AM CST

    I saw Soundgarden in concert way back....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ....on the Superunknown tour. Right before they came out the house lights went completely black for about a minute....until BAM!! The stage lit up to the blasting intro of Spoonman. It was the hardest fucking opening of any concert I've ever seen. No bullshit. Just rock!

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  • Jan 05, 2009 11:06:12 AM CST

    Michael Mann?

    by franklin t marmoset

    You're a good guy, Danny, and Michael Mann is a good (if hit and miss) director, but fuck right off. A Michael Mann comic book film would be fucking awful.Let serious directors make serious films and give us comic book directors who know how to make some solid, crowd-pleasing fun.Have we learned nothing from Ang Lee's Hulk?

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  • Jan 05, 2009 11:07:05 AM CST

    Michael Mann

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    I'd watch anything he did.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 11:08:02 AM CST

    P.S. Sorry

    by franklin t marmoset

    In no way was that an invitation for Ang Lee's Hulk argument #7,976.We really need to let that one lie.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 11:10:40 AM CST

    I want to see Fincher make a comic book flick

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Not necessarily a famous comic book character such as Iron Man, but something in the comic/graphic novel genre.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 11:11:02 AM CST

    Besides, you already have a Michael Mann comic book film

    by franklin t marmoset

    It's about a guy who fights crime in a cape and a mask with pointy ears.What's that you say?It wasn't directed by Michael Mann?Well, bugger me!

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  • Jan 05, 2009 11:12:15 AM CST

    P.S. Sorry (Part II)

    by franklin t marmoset

    In no way was that an invitation for The Dark Knight argument #3,432.I really need to let that one lie.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 11:12:16 AM CST

    2008 is the Year of Disappointment

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I mean, has there ever been a year with more highly anticipated movies that turned out to be drek?Danny, Appaloosa is garbage and it has Ed Harris, so for you it has two strikes against it.Those fight scenes in The Wrestler were brutal but what powerful stuff. Staples? Barbed wire? Glass windows? I was squirming the whole time and ready to lose my lunch but I can't remember the last time a movie portrayed such agonizing pain so vividly that every nerve ending in my body was quivering.Being back at work sucks.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 11:16:19 AM CST

    Franklin T Marmoset

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    AWWWWWWWWWWWW FUCK!!!A Michael Mann Iron Man film would have been fucking awesome. You would admit that if your testicles hadn't permanently sucked into your pelvis upon your 200th viewing of Gilmore Girls -- Season 3.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 11:18:07 AM CST

    Viggo looked like he could almost save it.....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ....but then I heard that movie even made him suck a large swollen cock.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 11:20:19 AM CST

    Season 3 was good, Danny

    by franklin t marmoset

    Not as good as season 4, when Luke and Lorelai finally got together, but pretty good all the same.It is sad that you are not sufficiently secure in your sexuality to enjoy this charming and delightful television programme.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 11:22:35 AM CST

    Speaking of Viggo

    by franklin t marmoset

    I saw A History Of Violence again last week, and it's a damn fine little film.But it made me remember that I had yet to get around to Eastern Promises?Is it any good?

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  • Jan 05, 2009 11:25:05 AM CST

    Random question mark attack?

    by franklin t marmoset

    Sorry about that?Going home now?See you all tomorrow?

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  • Jan 05, 2009 11:27:27 AM CST

    I like the daughter....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ....I would let her whisper the dirtiest things to me in her slightly retarded severed tongue mumble. But the mom?! Oh fuck her. I think I've said this before, but she looks and sounds like Wally The Walrus, Woody Woodpecker's old pal. I want to take a cartoon anvil and drop it on her front teeth.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 11:39:55 AM CST

    Some high standards for women in this group

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I find Lauren Graham hot but even if I didn't, with that full figured body I still wouldn't kick her out of bed if she was eating spaghetti with her feet. I've been with the same woman far too long to not appreciate some nice features when I see them.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 11:47:57 AM CST

    HOD

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I'd slam her. I just wouldn't tell anyone about it. She looks like her breath stinks.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 12:13:30 PM CST

    Gran Torino

    by hobocode

    Anyobody else seen it? Anyone else annoyed by the ending?

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  • Jan 05, 2009 12:25:59 PM CST

    I almost choked on a grape reading Frankie

    by just pillow talk

    and Danny's back and forth Gilmore Girls vs. TDK/Lee slams. Eastern Promises is most definitely worth a look Frankie. I'd have to see it again, but I may prefer that one over History of Violence.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 12:26:41 PM CST

    I agree with Danny on Iron Man

    by kungfuhustler84

    no tension whatsoever.I have no problem with Cheadle taking over fr Howard though. Ron Howard always looks like he's about to cry. Who wants somebody like that playing the hero in a lighthearted comic book movie? He was just wrong for the part I think.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 12:28:12 PM CST

    Node...Hawaiian saw Gran Torino

    by just pillow talk

    While I don't find Lauren Graham hot...that in no way would prevent her from fluffing my little pillow as long as she wanted to.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 12:29:15 PM CST

    whoa! Ron Howard was in Iron Man?

    by just pillow talk

    That must be in the double disk edition I didn't get. Yeah, I can't see him as War Machine at all! :-)

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  • Jan 05, 2009 12:30:51 PM CST

    Speaking of TV

    by kungfuhustler84

    My girlfriend and I recently started Season 4 of Lost after her friend got it for Christmas. I'm liking it way better than Season 3 so far (fuck that whole Jack/Sawyer/Kate dynamic, and fuck Kate's atrocious episodes, I hate every one of them). Desmond's story is extremely interesting, and I'm glad to see it's starting to tie into the bigger picture. And any episode with Jin and Sun is always good. Those three characters and Hurley are my favorites. Ben and Locke are getting really interesting as well.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 12:31:50 PM CST

    I saw it, Node

    by hawaiian organ donor

    The ending was interesting. It took the movie in a different direction than the viewer expected. It wrapped things up a little too nicely and Eastwood's prediction of how things would work out was a tad hard to swallow, but it threw us a curve and I give it props for that.My biggest complaint is the brother and sister. They were brutal actors. And once again Eastwood finds a way to cram more stereotypes into a movie than an ethnic joke convention.Still, it was an intersting character study and a movie I'd recommend to the group. Danny will love it.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 12:34:10 PM CST

    HAHAHA nice catch JPT

    by kungfuhustler84

    *Terrence* HowardRon Howard would make a great Wolverine though. Or maybe he could star in the next Blade movie. Can't you just see that freaky ginger flippin around in a black leather coat wastin' bitches in some kinky vampire nightclub?Before you ask, yes my official job is a casting director for Fox.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 12:44:44 PM CST

    Season 4 of Lost was brilliant

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Desmond's story is aces.Going to begin season 2 of Mad Men tonight.If you think Iron Man lacked tension and a menacing villain, wait until you get a load of Appaloosa. Actually no, avoid it. It's not worth it, not even as an exercise of what NOT to do in movies.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 12:47:06 PM CST

    I also saw Gran Torino

    by jonah echo

    Actually, I sort of saw the ending coming. I'd have been more surprised if it had gone full tilt towards the finale. As I told HOD before, the acting outside of Eastwood was atrocious. The young girl was trying, but honestly it was everyone, not just the asian actors. The man playing the priest was awful as well.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 12:49:03 PM CST

    HOD

    by hobocode

    This has SPOILERS for others who haven't seen GT. It's a great movie and I think it belongs among the top films of the year and I would recommend it. I totally agree that it was wrapped up too neatly. What I found specifically annoying was that Eastwood throws in a line saying the Hmong always keep their mouths shut (after the driveby), and then his whole plan at the end hinges on there being witnesses willing to come forward to the crime. WTF? Other than that it was freaking great movie.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 12:50:46 PM CST

    The acting in GT was weak.

    by hobocode

    Even Eastwood was bad IMO. Overacting much with the growling and the spitting?

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  • Jan 05, 2009 12:52:09 PM CST

    Ron Howard should have been Obadiah....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...he is much creepier. Jeff Bridges looks like the only thing he can be mean to is a T-Bone Steak. I don't get that shit when people try to say Terrence Howard looks weak. That guy looks like he'd pimp slap the shit out of you, drop his pants and piss on your face while you lay there crying. Did you hear that story about 6 months back where the cops came to his house because he pulled a piece of some kid when he came to pick up his daughter. I totally pictured that Bad Boys 2 scene "NIGGA' YOU LOOK 30! AND THERE AIN'T GONNA BE NO FUCKIN' TANIGHT!"

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  • Jan 05, 2009 12:53:00 PM CST

    OVERACTING WITH GROWLING AND SPITTING?

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Didn't you love The Dark Knight, Hobo? I'm just saying....

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  • Jan 05, 2009 12:53:04 PM CST

    Mad Men

    by hobocode

    the second season is great but not as good as the first. The 2nd season lacks an overall mystery that really drove the first season along (Draper's past). But it's still a brilliant show.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 12:54:35 PM CST

    Turino VS. Wrestler

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    My wife, parents, and a few friends saw both Turino and Wrestler. I only saw Wrestler. But practically everyone I know said Turino destroyed Wrestler. Interesting.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 12:56:03 PM CST

    Jonah, you must have the same "sources" as me

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Yeah, I had forgotten about the priest. That acting was B-A-D.His family and the barber were the bright spots but that's because they used veteran actors.Those faults aside, yes, it was a very enjoyable movie. Finally something you and I agree on, Node.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 12:57:10 PM CST

    hilarious Favreau quote about IRON MAN!

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Jon Favreau describes the film as "a kind of independent film-espionage thriller crossbreed; a Robert Altman-directed Superman (1978), with shades of Tom Clancy novels, James Bond films, RoboCop (1987), and Batman Begins (2005)."

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  • Jan 05, 2009 12:59:41 PM CST

    Breaking Bad

    by series7

    Was the best TV show on last year.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:00:37 PM CST

    Danny

    by hobocode

    Clint was playing a masked vigalante. Just a regular one.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:01:41 PM CST

    was = wasn't

    by hobocode

  • Jan 05, 2009 1:01:48 PM CST

    fun fact.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    To prepare for his role as James Rhodes, Terrence Howard visited the Nellis Air Force Base on March 16 2007, where he ate with the Base's airmen and observed the routines of HH-60 Pave Hawk rescue helicopters and F-22 Raptor jets.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:03:04 PM CST

    Danny

    by series7

    I with you about the Howard thing. I think Don Cheedle could possible beat up a customer service representative for not accepting his return without a receipt. Howard can whoop some ass, War Machine is one of my favorite comic book characters as well (they just started a new comic book series with him). Cheedle sucks, bad move. Howard was one of the few good parts about Iron Man. I've heard that they did not have a completed script before they shot, now I know why a lot of the dialog was flat. Something tells me Bridges is too lazy to improv well.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:04:02 PM CST

    that dude that plays Rorschach...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...in THE WATCHMEN is just a poor man's Clint Howard. And thats saying something....fuck.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:04:35 PM CST

    Priest.

    by hobocode

    Actually I thought the priest was ok acting wise, but the character was annoying. Best part in GT was when Clint saves the girl and her "wigger" boyfriend's asses from the corner goons. That was awesome.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:05:44 PM CST

    thank you for bringing that up Brother Series7....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...that was actually my next FUN FACT. The script was not completely prepared when filming began, since the filmmakers were more focused on the story and the action, so the dialogue was mostly ad-libbed throughout filming; Jon Favreau acknowledged this made the film feel more natural. hahahahahahahahahha!

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:06:02 PM CST

    Gran Torino

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Geez. I thought Torino was bloody great. I accepted the neighbours obvious inexperience. I thought the priest was pretty good and I thought Eastwood was genius. It's a film not without it's flaws, and the ending is a little too neat, but I preferred that ending to a big shoot out where Clint can't miss, and the bad guys couldn't hit a thing.I haven't seen Wrestler yet.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:06:03 PM CST

    HOD and 08

    by series7

    I'd say 07 was the year of disappointments, nothing I saw in 07 had me going. Yes that was awesome. Every movie in 08 I left going that was awesome.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:06:46 PM CST

    Bridges spends to much time with his nipple pumps....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...to focus on improv.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:07:55 PM CST

    another Iron Man fun fact....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Jon Favreau chose Industrial Light & Magic to provide the film's VFX after watching Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End (2007) and Transformers (2007). -------- Because Favreaue doesn't remember anything pre-2007. Fuck that boring shit Jurassic Park and Star Wars. They're old news!

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:08:13 PM CST

    Speaking of Howard...ron howard that is.

    by hobocode

    Frost/Nixon zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....

    Almost fell asleep twice. I didn't find the story all that compelling to begin with though. I couldn't root for Frost and the douche patrol in the film and wasn't that supposed to be the point? Langhella was amazing though.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:10:05 PM CST

    yet another Iron Man fun fact...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Obadiah Stane plays on the piano a musical piece written by 18th-century composer Antonio Salieri. Salieri is most famously known as a jealous rival of his contemporary, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, and was said to have murdered Mozart (although historical records have proven that on the contrary both have collaborated/promoted each other's work on several occasions). This serves as an appropriate parallel of Stark and Stane's relationship in the film.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:11:15 PM CST

    Langhella was amazing in Cutthroat Island...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jan 05, 2009 1:11:30 PM CST

    Slumdog and Revolutionary Road

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Slumdog is pretty bloody good. Not as amazing as it's made out to be but a very good film.Rev Road was fucking hard work. Two useless people bitching and moaning about their pathetic lives. I can see what they were going for, but Mendes did it better with American Beauty. A waste of talent.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:12:12 PM CST

    Series7

    by hobocode

    I'm the opposite actually. the only movie in 08 that really wowed me was TDK. Everyhting else has been kind of weak other than Redbelt and In Bruges. there is a still I haven't seen though this year. Has anyone seen Doubt. Two people raved about it to me this weekend.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:14:24 PM CST

    Hobo. I agree.

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    What an overrated film that is. Langella was very good, but its just such a flat story. I'd like to see the real interviews though.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:16:49 PM CST

    Slumdog

    by hobocode

    Yeah I liked it but think it's a tad overrated myself. It's solid but I found it unnecessarily muddled and the ending was corny as shit. Really could have done without the Bollywood send up as well. It was kind of embarassing.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:17:26 PM CST

    And Hobo...

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    I sampled some Hendricks and cucumber over the break. You are correct. It is a tasty drop.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:18:12 PM CST

    HoboCode

    by series7

    So your telling me that you were blown away with Transformers, 300, Book of Secrets, Wild Hogs, Knocked up, Juno, Alvin and the Chipmunks blew you away? Save for Superbad there wasn't a single funny movie out in 07, every comedy in 08 killed.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:18:57 PM CST

    Plus

    by series7

    Even the Sandler movie in 08 was actually funny, something that hasn't happened in a long time.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:20:03 PM CST

    The thing about Slumdog

    by series7

    1 the final question you saw coming a mile away, and 2 for all the talk about how hard the questions of India's WWTBAM are, they didn't seem that hard.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:20:57 PM CST

    Wild Hogs is a decent family film....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...I'd watch that shit with my Grandma. Just cause she thinks Ray Liotta is fine.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:22:33 PM CST

    Magnet films

    by series7

    They seem to be bringing the most interesting forign films over to America. They have a movie coming out called Eden Log that looks pretty nuts, anyone seen it? Reminds me of Testuto (Japanese Ironman).

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:23:45 PM CST

    loved Slumdog

    by jonah echo

    but found Revolutionary Road quite tedious and even annoying.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:24:34 PM CST

    Man movies I'm not looking forward to in 09

    by series7

    The Da Vinci Code 2: Die Harder. Seeing that Da Vinci Code 1 is one of the worst movies every made. Damn you Ron Howard, some making one of your best films, to jumping right back into crap. Things I am looking forward to in 09, 2012. And the possibly being able to see Outlander somehow.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:25:18 PM CST

    The questions in Slumdog

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Yep. They weren't "difficult" questions. They were common knowledge questions. It felt like some where shoehorned into the plot. Like the 100 dollar bill.And in India, the second to last question would not hinge on a cricket question. Everyone who knows ANYTHING about cricket will tell you that answer, let alone in India. I rolled my eyes in disgust at that.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:25:20 PM CST

    also thought Frost/Nixon

    by jonah echo

    was quite good. Not quite best picture good, but I really enjoyed it.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:28:35 PM CST

    thought I just read something on Outlander

    by jonah echo

    that it scored a January 23rd(or thereabouts) release date. This freakin' month!

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:29:26 PM CST

    that should read..

    by jonah echo

    theatrical release date.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:30:10 PM CST

    I also watched Death Race

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Ha! What an absolute piece of shit that was. How the fuck does Paul WS Anderson keep getting gigs?

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:30:55 PM CST

    Hahahah James Remar is in the Unborn

    by series7

    Is that movie a re-make of something? Also I can't get my lady friend to watch The Warriors.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:31:10 PM CST

    Revolutionary Road

    by dannyglovers_dickblood



    ...is the only one out of those I'm really pumped to see. The trailer was cut incredibly well. That looks like some good miserable shit.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:36:13 PM CST

    Sorry Series.

    by hobocode

    I didn't realize you were talking about comedies.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:36:18 PM CST

    Yeah the criket question

    by series7

    I was like??? That is like asking a Football or baseball question in America. Also it was who has the most blah blah criket things, which even if you don't follow sports you usually know who has the most amount of certain things in your country's most important sports.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:36:54 PM CST

    Rev Road

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    It looks good. It's well acted, especially by Michael Shannon, but the film is fucking depressing as fuck and pointless. It's almost the same film as The Break Up, only funnier. And Di Caprio still looks like he's wearing daddy's hand me downs. He's a good actor, but he just looks too young.The Ice Storm did it far, far better.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:38:07 PM CST

    Series

    by hobocode

    What is "India's WWTBAM"?

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:39:44 PM CST

    Hobo

    by series7

    Now I am talking about every movie. I was just pointing out how bad comedies where.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:40:23 PM CST

    Who wants to be a millionaire

    by series7

  • Jan 05, 2009 1:41:19 PM CST

    2008 is also the year of overrated

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Danny, I wouldn't say Gran Turino destroyed The Wrestler. I enjoyed both movies about the same. And that's part of the problem with 2008. Even the good year end movies aren't blowing me away.For me, there hasn't been one movie at the end of the year that I'll revisit repeatedly.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:41:54 PM CST

    fucking

    by series7

    Netflix skipped over Pineapple Express to ship me The Wackness and Ping Pong Playa!!! They all come out tomorrow why did Pineapple get skipped? Now its going to be on forever wait like Hellboy 2 and Kung Fu Panda. That is one thing that pisses me off about Netflixs, why don't they have enough copies of big movies?

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:43:31 PM CST

    So Hod

    by series7

    Are you saying that you will revisit TWBB, No Country, Juno and Before the Devil? I mean are you pulling a Harry Knowles and watching TWBB five times in a row non stop?

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:43:51 PM CST

    The cricket question... not that anyone cares!

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    was meant to be a 'trick' question. It was who has scored the most FIRST CLASS centuries? First Class is a domestic competition. Like the Premier league, or MLS. Its the national competition. The three wrong answers were all very famous INTERNATIONAL players. Its a ridiculous question. It's like having a question about College basketball and having Lebron James, Kobe Bryant and Kevin Garnett as possible answers.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:44:16 PM CST

    if I was asked a football or baseball question....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...that is where I would lose. Not everyone knows about that shit. And on Who Want's To Be A Millionaire? Sometimes high up questions are surprisingly easy and the contestant has no idea what it is.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:47:06 PM CST

    So I guess everyone

    by series7

    Has Shrek 3, Spiderman 3, Boring 3, Oceans 3 and Pirates 3 in heavy rotation? With the possibilities of TDK, Hellboy 2, Speed Racer, Eagle Eye, Wall-E of being rented down the line. I will give 07 one thing, Bridge To Terabitiah (directed by the guy who created Rugrats) is a lot better then Spiderwick Chronicles.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:47:31 PM CST

    I_am_not_the_droid

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    So why is that question so easy? Do all 4 choices seem like possible answers? I don't get it. Whats the complaint?

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:48:24 PM CST

    Danny

    by series7

    Yeah I wouldn't get any sports questions as well, unless it was something like which sports star had a cameo in BLANK film.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:48:49 PM CST

    Series7

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    What is that list of part 3's? Why do I feel dumb in this TB?!! AWHHHHHH

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:52:46 PM CST

    I find a film like Revolutionary Road...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...more enjoyable and impactful with its initial view than lighter fare. I haven't seen it, but I just mean dramatic/miserable/heavy acting sorta films. But that doesn't mean I'll watch it again. I'll probably watch Incredible Hulk several more times in my life even though that movie is half shit. If I watch a movie more doesn't mean its better, just means its easier to watch and has a certain level of dull entertainment. There are very few heavy/dramatic films I can see over and over again-- Empire of the Sun being one of them.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:53:36 PM CST

    Danny

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Ok, sorry. Didn't explain myself. Its because International cricketers don't play enough First Class cricket to be able to get the record. They spend 90% of their year playing International cricket.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:54:22 PM CST

    Danny

    by series7

    That is a list of movies that came out in 07 that I guess meet and exceeded most expectations, seeing that people are saying that 07 was a better year for movies then 08.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:56:25 PM CST

    I hope to watch Slumdog, Frost/Nixon and Rev Road

    by hawaiian organ donor

    This week. And maybe Ben Button and Seven Pounds as well. This will be the first time since the early 90s when I've seen all of the Oscar noms.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:57:28 PM CST

    Series...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Oh....I see. I forget movies released that year about a month after the year is over. We would have to revisit the BEST OF YEARS list for me to comment on that. Speaking of which...we should just start that up again from 1980 to the present. That was some of the most fun I had. Maybe its too soon.....too soon.....

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:58:05 PM CST

    HOD

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    DAMN YOU!!

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  • Jan 05, 2009 1:58:40 PM CST

    By the way, Danny...

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    I read the original Hancock script over the break. My fucking god. It was an absolute piece of shit. You were right. Nothing fucking happens. And the dialogue! Just an awful script. I can't believe I'm saying this, but the Smith movie was a vast improvement, even with the godawful 'twist' and terrible second half.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 2:00:23 PM CST

    DROID....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...awwwwwwww fuck. Thats sad. So sad. And remember, for years it was said that that script was one of the best unproduced scripts in Hollywood.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 2:01:03 PM CST

    HOD

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    The only one I haven't seen yet is Button. Out of the others, Slumdog is the better film. Seven Pounds was shite. I'd put a nom in for In Bruges.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 2:03:00 PM CST

    Hawaiian Organ Donor

    by hobocode

    How do you know? Were the Oscar noms announced and I missed it?

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  • Jan 05, 2009 2:03:09 PM CST

    Danny

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    I know. I was expecting something brilliant and was ready to rant about Smith and Co to anyone that would listen. But it really is a piece of shit.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 2:03:31 PM CST

    this is funny....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Am I in an alternate world or what? Why is everyone suddenly repeating the shit I have been saying since I've been here? I think its the new breed of TB'ers. Suddenly people are saying they prefer Burton's Gotham, both Aliens and T2 blow, and Avatar will bomb. Odd. Maybe I am just always against the masses-- I'm about to jump onto the other side with Cameron.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 2:04:17 PM CST

    Still haven't seen...

    by hobocode

    Doubt, Button, or Wall-E

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  • Jan 05, 2009 2:05:07 PM CST

    Man scorekeepers top ten

    by series7

    Totally forgot how amazing the Speed Racer score was. Its too bad so will the academy. Hopefully Wall-E will win it as well as best song.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 2:06:40 PM CST

    And the other thing about the script...

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Is the pre-pubescent, immature obsession with genitals! WTF? Names of characters are Hancock, Longfellow and Gina (actually written in the script as vaGINA)!

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  • Jan 05, 2009 2:08:46 PM CST

    Speed Racer

    by hobocode

    The score was the only thing good about that movie. Thanks to the brilliance of Michael Giacchino. God I can't wait for his Star Trek score.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 2:10:50 PM CST

    cool Wall-E fan films....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Even though I hate on Pixar....these are fucking awesome. But they are not Pixar :)

    http://tinyurl.com/8kzctp

    http://tinyurl.com/8hbkf9

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  • Jan 05, 2009 2:12:21 PM CST

    Speed Racer score is great...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...I listen to it on the computer all the time.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 2:12:28 PM CST

    Jeez Series, way to take a bite outta my arse!

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I'm the first to admit TWBB, NCFOM, Juno and Atonement were either overrated or crap. But.....there are several movies that came out during the awards season (October to December) last year that I've seen multiple times and will continue to watch.Michael Clayton, The Mist, Walk Hard, Charlie Wilson's War, I Am Legend, American Gangster, Dan In Real Life, Gone Baby Gone and 3:10 To Yuma.Now I know everyone here thinks all those films suck mightily but I enjoyed them all. They each had at least some moments I want to revisit.And don't get me wrong. I've said repeatedly that 2008 is a much stronger year than people are giving it credit for, but my favorite movies came out in the spring and summer.As a whole though, 2008 can't hold a candle to 2006 and 2007. What last year lacked in comedy, it made up for in drama.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 2:16:15 PM CST

    3:10 To Yuma is good....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...I didn't think Mangold had an ounce of talent left after that shitstorm Walk The Line, but he pulled it off.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 2:21:44 PM CST

    The Oscar noms haven't been announced yet

    by hawaiian organ donor

    But I've caught most of the movies that have the highest buzz. And save for the odd WTF actor/actress nom, the best picture nominees are pretty much a given every year.Sadly Droid, In Bruges doesn't stand a chance in hell of getting a nomination. Nor does The Fall or The Visitor.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 2:26:09 PM CST

    3:10 to Yuma

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Thats a great film. And Russell Crowe is great. I also really liked The Mist, Walk Hard, American Gangster, and Gone Baby Gone.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 2:38:26 PM CST

    3:10

    by series7

    Didn't care for it. But like I've said before I watched it right in the middle of watching Deadwood season 1, and it couldn't hold a candle to that show. I did enjoy the Mist, Walk Hard had 1 or 2 funny parts. American Gangster and Gone Baby Gone? They were alright nothing amazing though. All 07 had was a couple of good Drama films, about as many as 08, 07 had nothing else.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 2:43:37 PM CST

    Danny

    by xiphos_2

    Where did you come up with that info about Terrance Howard spending the day with Air Force search and rescue? I would like to see what exactly he was suppossed to have observed unless they were actually doing something. If not, then Sea Stallions helos just sit there. Maybe the ground crew was doing something?3:10 to Yuma was a really good movie, so was Gone Baby Gone. I thought it was one of the better movies of that year. Finally a discussion about movies I've seen.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 2:47:38 PM CST

    Best film of 07 IMHO

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Before the devil knows your dead.Brilliant.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 2:48:43 PM CST

    I enjoyed the hell out of 3:10 to Yuma

    by just pillow talk

    I really need to see it again as I caught it on the flight to Brazil, which ain't the same as watching it in the comfort of the Pillow household.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 2:50:02 PM CST

    I was indifferent to American Gangster

    by just pillow talk

    Didn't do anything for me, thought it was just alright. I did like the Mist though, quick conversions aside...

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  • Jan 05, 2009 2:53:23 PM CST

    Before the Devil Knows you're Dead was good too

    by just pillow talk

    A million internets to Marisa. Sorry MNG, your mod campaign is short by these internets for the lovely Marisa.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 2:54:03 PM CST

    XIphos-- it was on IMDB trivia for Iron Man.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I thought just it was hilarious he researched his role by eating lunch with them one day. Hehehehe.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 2:56:29 PM CST

    3:10 compared to Deadwood?!

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Its ridiculous to compare the two. Completely different tones and intentions. Its like saying "I didn't really like Ghostbusters cause I had just seen The Sixth Sense the day before." 3:10 is like an adventure film that just happens to be set in the old west. But it could have easily been in medieval times or a number of different periods and worked just as well.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 3:01:07 PM CST

    Yeah Danny

    by xiphos_2

    I found that laughable also. you won't learn jack shit just "observing", what ever the fuck that means, and having lunch with some guys one afternoon.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 3:06:56 PM CST

    he should've just watched Top Gun 10 times in a row...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...thats how I learned how to play volleyball.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 3:16:57 PM CST

    I forgot about Before The Devil

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I can watch that one over and over. Brilliant movie.Speaking of Ghostbusters, I watched that one for the first time in 20 years on the weekend.To each his own. I thought 2007 was a wonderful year for movies. You pricks know me, I like seeing skulls busted as much as anyone, but a good drama makes me weak at the knees.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 3:19:09 PM CST

    HOD

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Have you procured Punisher: War Zone? I don't think my penis can wait for a DVD release date. Not seeing that in the theater was probably the worst mistake of my entire life.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 3:34:23 PM CST

    Ah Top Gun

    by xiphos_2

    A movie so gay it makes gay porn seem butch.Sign me up for Punisher that looked like some happy mayhem.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 3:48:03 PM CST

    watch out Xiphos....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...I hear you can get discharged for just mentioning Top Gun.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 3:52:10 PM CST

    http://tinyurl.com/8zdz9e

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jan 05, 2009 4:51:17 PM CST

    Danny

    by series7

    What I meant was that I had borrowed Deadwood season 1 on DVD and was watching like two episodes a day and one day I watched and episode whatched 3:10 and then watched another episode. 3:10 just wasn't good enough for me, it seemed like a cheesy prime time network channel show they tried to make trying to go off the popularity of westerns. Like I've said before same thing happened to me and Zodiac and Law and Order.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 5:24:26 PM CST

    Kungfu

    by toadkillerdog

    Yo, Fu. You are the very first person I have ever encountered that did not like The Dark Knight Returns. To me, that mini series is the absolute pinnacle of comic book achievement. I just loved every page, every word. I re-read it every two years or so. That and Kingdom Come, and Watchmen are the finest limited series books I have ever read. Marvels is somewhere in the mix, but Miller just kicked all sorts of ass. The reinvention of Batman and the whole genre, with that work is hard to describe to someone who did not grow up in the late 70's early 80's, but let me tell you it was profound. Everyone is entitled to an opinion though.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 5:31:28 PM CST

    The Giants and Eagles

    by toadkillerdog

    No way iggles win. Despite the score, Minny was hanging with the iggles and blasting McNabb. The G-Men will have no let down. Steelers vs Chargers. The cute pick is the Chargers, Stay away from cute picks. Ravens vs Titans. Ravens are cute pick. Stay away from cute picks. Carolina vs Cards. Cards get wiped out. Sorry Xiphos.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 5:38:00 PM CST

    I know what you are thinking

    by toadkillerdog

    I chose the top four seeds, and rarely do the top four seeds win out. Of the four, Steelers are most vulnerable because their O line sucks. But I still think Steelers pull it off. Titans D is too good for Ravens offense. It will be low scoring, but Titans pull it out. I see Carolina blowing out Cards. G-Men will win ugly.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 6:04:58 PM CST

    re: The Dark Knight Returns

    by the milf lover

    while I think DKR is much better than Watchmen,(which I've barely been able to get thru when I tried reading it in the 90s, and I didnt read all the tedious 'bonus stuff', maybe I'll give it another chance before the movie comes out), I dont think it's genius either. I didnt like the mutant gang stuff, and the last chapter with the nuclear-depowering of Superman thing was rather stupid, it would have been a lot better if Batman beat Supes at his full strenght. Still a great story but it didnt impress me that much. And I'm one of the few who actually enjoyed its sequel The Dark Knight Strikes Again. It is a wretched story but full of crazy ideas and very entertaining.
    Marvels is way overrated, it is well written and nice to look at but it just bored me. Kingdom Come is, in my opinion, quite simply one of the best comic story ever. I still have to read New Frontier, it's near the top of my 'to buy' list.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 6:30:48 PM CST

    Nobody probably cares

    by kungfuhustler84

    But I have been thinking a lot about my 2007 movie list today, and in retrospect, I think my list is a lot different than it was, so I decided to rewrite it. Again, these are not what I consider to be the best movies of the year, but are my favorites.10. Tie! TMNT/Beowulf- Yes, yes, not one but two computer generated movies on the list. Maybe they aren't the best movies but they are the ones I have revisited and enjoyed more than some of the other stuff. Maybe I'm just immature, but I loved both of these. I just recently saw TMNT for the first time and was pleasantly surprised. I even watched it again already and I’ve barely had it for a week. While I hate the designs for the human characters, the turtles looked great, which was all that really mattered to me. The turtles used to basically be my life as a little kid, so it was fun revisiting my old heroes. The story was goofy, but so was everything about them. The action in TMNT was surprisingly good as well, the first fight with all the turtles and the big monster, and Leo vs. Raphael being the highlights. Neil Gaiman’s script in Beowulf was a perfect meger of the epicness of the old tale with some contemporary ideas about the story. In particular, the addition of the hero’s integrity coming into question helped to flesh out the character a great deal more than the original. I had the pleasure of watching this in 3D, and the battle with the dragon at the end was better than all of the action in Transformers combined. Casting of Angelina Jolie was kinda dumb, but Anthony Hopkins, Ray Winstone, and John Malkovich made up for it.9. Sweeney Todd- Surprisingly good musical, and probably my third favorite of Burton’s after Nightmare Before Christmas and Ed Wood. The younger members of the cast were obnoxious to me, otherwise, this would probably be higher.8. 3:10 to Yuma- Just a great, exciting western. It has some pacing problems around the middle for me, but it’s all good fun.7. No Country for Old Men- This seems to be getting some hate now, but I still thoroughly enjoy it. The cast is all really good and it’s a thriller to beat. While action isn’t really even the point of the movie, the meeting of the hero and the villain in the hotel was one of the tensest moments I had at the movies. If you didn’t get the ending, I don’t know what to tell you. Maybe it’s just not your kind of movie. Again, I do not consider this an action movie by any means. If anything, it may be an argument against the evils of violence, and in the end, it’s a story about a man who is watching in quiet horror as the times fly by him into what he perceives as a darker future.6. I hate to say it’s a tie again but I can’t really decide whether to put Eastern Promises or Zodiac in this spot, and I didn’t want to leave either off the list. I think History of Violence is considerably better than Eastern Promises, but I still enjoyed it a great deal. Plus, i am just fascinated by the Russian mafia. Zodiac is yet another example of why no matter how much I want to hate Jake Gylenhaal in every movies he is in, I can’t help but like his movies. I liked the meticulous nature of the film too. All the little details. And Robert Downey Jr. just makes me happy. In a movie that needs to give you a little time off every once in awhile, he’s a perfect source of comedic breaks.5. Black Snake Moan- This movie didn’t get much recognition at all, but I love it. Jackson and Ricci rock in their respective roles. It’s a good, if not slightly formulaic story that transcends some of the tired clichés that usually come with this kind of movie. Also, it’s a bit of a love story about the power of the blues and the importance of the music in the community. The way this message was conveyed really moved me. I admit though, I am a die hard blues fan, so there’s probably some bias there. Timberlake didn’t even really bother me in this. He did just fine.4. There Will Be Blood- This is the one movie on the whole list that I feel will probably be regarded by many later as a cinematic classic. Most people will probably blame that on Day Lewis’ performance (it’s deserved), but I think Anderson’s subtle directing was just as good. It’s all the little camera movements, the pacing of scenes, ant the general tone the film gives that make Plainview’s character just as ominous as the man playing him. He was my pick for best director, not the Coens (whom I love, but not for No Country).3. The Host- It’s a nice twist on the monster movie genre. Song Kang Ho is perfect in the lead role of the bumbling father. He is both hilarious and heartbreaking. The monster design was a little goofy for me, but the movie still managed to make it pretty scary. I loved the whole family in this movie, and the cinematography, especially in the final battle with the monster, was yummy.2. The Diving Bell and the Butterfly- Schnabel has the eye of an artist, and it shows in this film. The fact that the movie is so visually brilliant regardless of the constraints of the protagonist is a testament to its power. This movie came at a perfect time in my life to give me a more positive outlook on things. Plus, it had one of the greatest soundtracks of the year in a year of spectacular ones (Assassination of Jesse James, There Will Be Blood, Into the Wild, and Tarantino’s vintage song choices in Death Proof).1. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford- The entire cast in this movie was perfect, the cinematography, costumes, and general production design were absolutely beautiful, and it was perfectly paced. To tell you the truth, I really don’t even care to spend that much time trying to tell people why I love this movie to such a degree. I like it that much. (Watch out for the splooge after reading that. Sorry guys)Movies I still haven't seen that I wanted to back in 2007, and still do: The Mist, Michael ClaytonRescue Dawn, Bridge to Terabithia, I Am Legend, The Orphanage, Walk Hard, Charlie Wilson's War, Before the Devil Knows You're Dead, Lust, Caution, and Dragon Wars. Yeah, I should probably get on those.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 6:38:48 PM CST

    Dark Knight Returns

    by kungfuhustler84

    I liked it okay, but wouldn't even compare it to Watchmen. Watchmen to me is like a dense work of literature, much like Maus or Fun Home, while I think Dark Knight Returns is a fun, slightly immature take on the Batman mythos. If you want to talk about a proper more contemporary revitalization of the Batman character, I look to Batman: Year One. It's still Miller, and it's still gritty, but I enjoyed it much more. Also, Jim Gordon is one of my favorite Batman characters, and the focus on him was brilliant. Dark Knight Returns is very fun, and very interesting though. I own it, and I'm proud to have read it. Again, outside of the fact that they are both graphic novels with some commentary and vigilantism and fascism, I am lost on the comparison.If you haven't read it, another really good post-70s Batman book is Long Halloween. It's basically just a noir story, but i read it for the first time about a month ago and I really dug it. If you liked Zodiac, you will love it.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 7:07:40 PM CST

    Year One is superior to Dark Knight Returns

    by the milf lover

    in just about every way. Dave Mazzucchelli's art is just gorgeous in that. I also liked Miller's Daredevil: Man Without Fear miniseries revamping Daredevil's origin with artist John Romita Jr, it's not on Year One's level but still a great read.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 7:10:29 PM CST

    the Watchmen/Dark Knight comparisons

    by the milf lover

    are mostly because they came out at the same time and both had 'dark and gritty' stories, but other than that they have nothing in common really. Well, besides being overrated haha

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  • Jan 05, 2009 8:58:28 PM CST

    Fu

    by series7

    Beowulf, I was made at myself when I finally saw it on DVD that I didn't try to track it down and see it in 3-D while it was in theaters. It was the best action movie of 07, better then 300. TMNT was also awesome as well.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 8:59:26 PM CST

    Watchmen and Dark Knight

    by toadkillerdog

    Milf, I have no idea how old you are, but you are wrong about that comparison. Miller was at the very top of his game and fame when he produced Dark Knight. He had already revolutionized Daredevil, and I am not sure, but I think he had done his Wolverine and Ronin stories - do not quote me on that becuase i am not sure of the exact timetable, but regardless, when it was announced he was doing Batman, it waa a huge event. The hype alone lasted a good part of the year, and when the books finally dropped, my God! Jaw dropping. Like I said, everyone is entitled to an opinion, but you and kungfu are in the extreme minority on this one. Those books are stellar. I do not get the reason you hate the mutant gang leader. I do not get that at all. Watchmen was nowhere on the radar. It was a cult level book at the time. Moore was an acknowledged great writer, but watchmen did not set world on fire with sales. It was innovative, but the art while good, was not up to the elite level of the day. I mean, Miller, Byrne, McFarlane and Lee ruled the world back then.Watchemn is a great book, but for my money Dark Knight Returns is simply awesome. I love Kingdom Come as well. In fact, I read the novel, then I read the graphic novel back to back every few years. They enhance one another. Kingdom Come and Watchmen are 2 and 2A in my book. I agree that the story in Marvels is not in the same class as the others, but I have one name, Alex Ross. He exploded on to the world with that series. The art alone pushes that book to top five status, the same way the Neal Adams art pushed mediocre books to top status in the 70's. Neal!!!!Still the greatest comic book artist of all time.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:11:28 PM CST

    As for dense literature in comic books

    by toadkillerdog

    Let me point out the greatest continuous comic book of all time. Cerebus the Aardvark. Cerebus holds many distinctions, being the longest self published continuous series of all time. Being at one time the hands down funniest comic book of all time. Then Amazingly transforming into, in my humble opinion, the greatest work of comic book - damn near literature of all time. Nothing, I repeat, nothing I have ever read in comics comes close to the sheer genius of that book. Before Dave Sim lost his mind (and i mean that quite literally) Cerebus was the finest comic book ever written. I mean, that book came as close to high literature as you will ever find in comics. Watchmen is a joke compared to Cerebus at its height. But Sim had demons. I mean serious demons. He wrote that book and did the art, for 25 years. He had multiple mental breakdowns, drug and alcohol problems, legendary fights with industry titans, and a truly frightening misogyny in later years. At times the book was total trash. Not even worth toilet paper. I stayed until the bitter end. And it was bitter. But from around 1981 until 1986 it was without a doubt the greatest ever.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:23:26 PM CST

    DGDB

    by xiphos_2

    By joining the Navy, it's proof, that somebody is too gay to join the Navy. It's conundrum that the Navy has gotten around by wearing those abolutly faboo bell bottom sailors pants. They're tres chic.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 9:28:05 PM CST

    Swabbies!

    by toadkillerdog

    The only lower form of life are air force - whatever the fuck they are called. Of course Xi may think swabbies are even lower, and I will not quibble.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:08:30 PM CST

    Searching for John Gissling

    by series7

    Bad movie, don't see. Just boring, not much to is.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:21:13 PM CST

    Can somebody answer this question?

    by xiphos_2

    And by somebody I really mean JPT, TKD and HOD seeing as how they watch American sports.I was watching a bit of the Fiesta Bowl game this morning and, I got to wondering, why in the hell does the Ohio State university band wear maroon berets like they are in the 82nd Airborne Divison? Berets look stupid to begin with, but when you're sporting a tuba, instead of a rifle, it looks infinitely worse. Anybody know why?

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:27:09 PM CST

    Searching for John Gissling

    by xiphos_2

    Never heard of it. What's it about?

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  • Jan 05, 2009 10:41:52 PM CST

    Berets

    by toadkillerdog

    Here is the 'official' reason.
    Sousaphone players in marching bands typically wear berets because the regular combination cap would get in the way of the bell. All members of the Ohio State University Marching Band wear scarlet berets with a "Diamond Ohio" flash when not wearing their uniform hat (essentially, whenever they are outdoors and not performing).
    Tuba (and, until 2000, contrabass bugle) players in the Blue Devils Drum and Bugle Corps wear berets instead of the traditional shako as not to interfere with their instrument.
    Ok, maybe not too helpful, but its late. i gotta go to bed! c'ya Xi

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  • Jan 05, 2009 11:00:03 PM CST

    Texas Longhorns suck

    by xiphos_2

    How they didn't roll over the crappy OSU team is a mystery. Oh wait no its not, Mack Brown sucks almost as bad as the sweater vest(Jim Tressel OSU head coach) in big games.No, Longhorns, you absolutely do not deserve a piece of the national title, and fucking hell, why is there not a playoff system? cock heads.

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  • Jan 05, 2009 11:56:13 PM CST

    Kung....interesting 2007 list

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Black Snake Moan? Sheeesh. That movie just didn't work for me. I didn't get anything out of Samuel's and Wednesday's relationship. It was a very odd movie. And the lightning strike blues orgasm scenes were odd. The only time in history a chick with her hand on her cunt, wriggling around in orgasmic ecstasy has ever made me truly uncomfortable.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 12:08:54 AM CST

    Sweet New Nip Tuck tomorrow

    by series7

    Totally forgot about it.
    John Gissing is just this lame movie with Alan Rickman. It looked like it could've been funny but it wasn't.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 12:41:28 AM CST

    Funny

    by kungfuhustler84

    I don't remember Ricci masturbating during the blues-lighting storm scene. Now I just want to rewatch it even more.Another reason why I really loved Black Snake Moan that I forgot to mention; it has this great old-school, almost grindhouse feel to it all that I really liked. I can just see this movie being released in the 70s with a different cast, or even in the 60s right after the civil rights movement, and just causing this huge uproar. It didn't get released then of course, but to me it preserves the tone and atmosphere of several dramas I have seen from that general era.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 3:10:26 AM CST

    I liked Black Snake Moan

    by lost jarv

    and it is meant to make you feel uncomfortable- it's about a seriously damaged, mentally disturbed chick. It isn't wank fodder. Top film.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 3:13:23 AM CST

    Zombie Diaries

    by lost jarv

    destroys Diary of the dead. It's not the greatest, but is an interesting zero budget effort. Worth a look, but don't expect a classic- Xi is right, flawed but interesting.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 3:39:17 AM CST

    2007

    by lost jarv

    Was shit. Sorry. There's really no getting around it. As much as people wank over No Country, I didn't like it and almost everyone I know in the real world didn't like it. Michael Clayton was alright but not world beating, TWBB was good, but the summer was so fucking awful that no amount of oscar wank can redeem it. It was the year of the shite sequel. And if we're honest with ourselves, as much as we say "I'll watch TWBB over and over again" when it comes to it, if you're a touch bored and picking between 2 movies you've seen before, then 90% of the time you'll go for the big summer effort.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 3:40:58 AM CST

    Wow my type ten has some writing issues

    by kungfuhustler84

    "tensest"? really? as opposed to most tense?I suck. Happy to see you have my back on Black Snake Moan though jarv! yay!

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  • Jan 06, 2009 3:41:49 AM CST

    However, 2007 was fucking wonderful

    by lost jarv

    compared to the utter shitstorm of 2006 which must be the worst movie year on record- I can't actually think of a top 10 from it. I'll go and look and get back to you.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 3:44:26 AM CST

    and that's supposed to say *merger*

    by kungfuhustler84

    not "meger."

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  • Jan 06, 2009 3:48:29 AM CST

    i agree, 2007 was a bad year

    by kungfuhustler84

    and making that top 10 was actually pretty hard. i made the two ties because I figured that way i could just fit every movie from the year I saw that i actually enjoyed. Of course, I haven't seen a lot of the ones i have heard good things about.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 3:56:58 AM CST

    Holy shit! 2006 does suck!

    by kungfuhustler84

    It did bring us some gems though.Miami Vice, Casino Royale, Borat, The Fountain, Children of Men, Pan's Labyrinth, Letters from Iwo Jima, Thank You For Smoking, and Apocalypto (amazing movie). There's my top ten, in no particular order (Children of Men and Pan's Labyrinth can just take turns at the number one and two spots together, cause 2006 sucked and I can do that). Actually, Apocalypto may be my top pick. That last act is a killer way to end a movie. It's like a chase scene for 30 minutes straight.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 3:57:58 AM CST

    Oh man Happy Feet

    by kungfuhustler84

    I was dating another girl and we HAD to go see that because of her. SO glad I dumped that bitch.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 4:00:21 AM CST

    right- here we go

    by lost jarv

    in no particular order 10 best of 2006: Children of Men, Pan's Labrynth, The Lives of Others, This is England, Volver, This Film is not yet rated (despite it's obvious flaws, I always like hypocrites getting exposed), Lady Vengeance, London To Brighton, 36 Quai Des Orfevres, ElectionNot one big summer effort on it, and a very weak effort from America. It's easier to do 10 fucking shite efforts from 2006. In fact, it's easier to do 20 utter shite efforts.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 4:01:25 AM CST

    Whoops, shite

    by lost jarv

    The Host, Pan's Labrynth, The Lives of Others, This is England, Volver, This Film is not yet rated (despite it's obvious flaws, I always like hypocrites getting exposed), Lady Vengeance, London To Brighton, The Proposition, Election

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  • Jan 06, 2009 4:04:41 AM CST

    fuck Happy Feet

    by lost jarv

    awful, awful shite.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 4:12:02 AM CST

    Woah

    by lost jarv

    Sword and Sorcerer sequel. Yippee! I love that cheesy old shite.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 4:17:26 AM CST

    what a fucking let down

    by lost jarv

    I would be well up for some barbarian stupidity with Talon. That just looks like ass.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 4:18:19 AM CST

    Does anyone give a fuck about Tintin?

    by lost jarv

    seriously?

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  • Jan 06, 2009 4:19:33 AM CST

    and how can you cast 2 different actors as the

    by lost jarv

    fucking Thompson twins. What the fuck is wrong with Spielberg nowadays.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 4:24:59 AM CST

    I give a fuck about Tintin, Jarv

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    I grew up on that shit. It's great. Technically the Thompsons weren't twins. They just looked almost exactly the same, except for a few minor details. They must just be mocapping Pegg and Frost and making them look like them. Beowulf doesn't look like Ray Winstone. I assume its the same.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 4:29:38 AM CST

    I grew up with it as well

    by lost jarv

    what I meant was: "Who gives a fuck about a horrible Mocap tintin directed by someone that's badly lost his mojo"

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  • Jan 06, 2009 4:31:29 AM CST

    That's hair splitting- they were pretty much identical

    by lost jarv

    which is not something that you can accuse pegg and frost of being- Spielberg clearly does not "get" Tintin. Just like he didn't get Harry Potter when he wanted to cast that awful American kid (which led to him pulling out) or when he didn't "get" transformers so allowed Bay to pull that woeful 1 boy and his car bollocks.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 4:39:02 AM CST

    But with motion capture...

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    they are only providing the movement etc. The actual characters are CG creations. They don't have to look like the individual performing the mocap unless they want to, like Angelina Jolie.And Spielberg has made one bad film (which I don't hate as much as everyone else. Yes, it was bad. But i don't hate it). So the guys lost his mojo now?And I'll say this... I was never a Transformers fan, but I think that we got the best film about huge alien robots that transform into cars that we could possibly get. I expected nothing, and the best thing I can say is, I wasn't bored.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 4:43:58 AM CST

    We've had this argument many a time

    by lost jarv

    but I honestly don't think he's made one unqualified good film since Schindler's List/ Jurassic Park.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 4:44:19 AM CST

    January 6th

    by franklin t marmoset

    Jarv, your resolution lasted until January 6th.Good for you!Not that I'm complaining, mind you. You are an entertaining angry ranter, so I prefer the classic Jarv to the optimistic Jarv.Keep it up! Talk more about stuff that is bollocks!Cuntflaps!!

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  • Jan 06, 2009 4:47:54 AM CST

    I disagree

    by lost jarv

    I know next to nothing about Transformers but think that film was beyond awful. Badly written, badly acted, confusing, dull, embarrasing (did we need a wank joke, or to see Shia fuck his girlfriend on top of his new best friend?)dreck. Hated it. I say doesn't understand because I read the TB's with the geeks that knew the source and were able to point out where they were fucking up.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 4:48:39 AM CST

    Since Schindler?

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Damn! You're a hard man to please. I'm going to check out the films he's made since then.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 4:49:22 AM CST

    For my part...

    by franklin t marmoset

    ...I resolve to continue ignoring stuff I don't care about (Tintin? Don't care!), being sarcastic and whatnot, and stubbornly insisting on liking things no one else likes.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 4:53:34 AM CST

    Spielberg since Schindler

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (2008) - Bad
    Munich (2005) - Great
    War of the Worlds (2005) - Okay
    The Terminal (2004) - Okay
    Catch Me If You Can (2002) - Okay
    Minority Report (2002) - Great
    Artificial Intelligence: AI (2001) - Okay
    Saving Private Ryan (1998) - Good
    Amistad (1997) - Good
    The Lost World: Jurassic Park (1997) - Shite

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  • Jan 06, 2009 4:56:31 AM CST

    That's not fair

    by lost jarv

    I started with 2 posts about stuff I like. And I like Tintin as well. Just not Mocap. Or particularly Spielberg.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 5:03:15 AM CST

    If Tintin were live action... i would cast...

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Tintin - That Sangster kidCaptain Haddock - Alec Baldwin (a la The Edge)The Thompsons - Those twins from T2 and Gremlins 2. Just dye their hair and mo's black.Professor Calculus - Michael JeterBianca Castafiore - Meryl Streep

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  • Jan 06, 2009 5:05:31 AM CST

    I'll take that list

    by lost jarv

    Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (2008) - Bad
    Munich (2005) - Great first 2/3rd's, confusing and unnecessary final act

    War of the Worlds (2005) - Complete crap

    The Terminal (2004) - Dull as ditchwater. Hate it.

    Catch Me If You Can (2002) - MediocreJust not a hanks fan. Sorry

    Minority Report (2002) - Crap, almost all the cruise stuff is.

    Artificial Intelligence: AI (2001) - Fucking dreadful. I despise this movie, although, to be fair, it isn't really all the Berg's fault

    Saving Private Ryan (1998) - Horrible, awful shite

    Amistad (1997) - Crap

    The Lost World: Jurassic Park (1997) - ShiteHowever, with the possible exception of the Lost World, what is frustrating is that all of these have moments of directorial genius wrapped up in them. It's irritating because if only he could be consistent within the film then we could see another Close Encounters or Jaws or Raiders etc.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 5:09:34 AM CST

    I like Catch Me If You Can very much

    by franklin t marmoset

    It goes a little bit wonky toward the end, but that's Spielberg's thing these days. Minority Report and War Of The Worlds were also pretty good until they went wonky toward the end.I didn't like The Terminal or AI, but Munich is a damn good film.I suppose I'll have to see Indy 4 again at some point. I remember thinking it was the weakest of the series but not too awful at the time I first saw it, but people have gotten so damn angry about it (and that South Park episode was very funny) that I want to see it again and judge for myself.All in all, he's still a solid director, I think. There's definitely plenty worse out there than Spielberg.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 5:10:02 AM CST

    As I said, Jarv

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    You're a hard man to please. But I was actually surprised that I only had two 'great' films from his list. He carries a lot of good will from Jaws through Indy 3.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 5:16:41 AM CST

    see- this is my point

    by lost jarv

    he has a huge amount of goodwill built up from having made some of the finest films of all time, but his record for the last 15 years doesn't deserve the podium he's put on. He isn't even one of the best 3 currently working (on present form). I didn't hate Indy 4, it was just meh. I need to rewatch it.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 5:21:29 AM CST

    I definitely wouldn't put him top 3...

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    But he's still a good director. I rewatched Indy 4 a few months ago. Honestly, I find it 'mildly' entertaining. I don't hate it. It just suffers a great deal in comparison with the others. Also, it annoys me that the look of the film is different to the look of the first three (due to the different DP I would say). Its Lucas' fault. I blame him more than Spielberg for its mediocrity.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 5:39:52 AM CST

    What's wrong with goodwill?

    by franklin t marmoset

    Spielberg deserves that good will.Most creative types lose it at some point (apart from Tom Waits), but that doesn't mean they no longer deserve our respect. You can't honestly expect anyone to keep making films of the quality of Jaws and Raiders indefinitely (apart from Tom Waits, if he were a film director).And what does 'Top 3' have to do with anything? If you're not in the top three, you're shit? And who decides on this mythical troika of awesomely awesome directors, anyway?Blimey, Jarv. Your standards are way too high.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 5:43:08 AM CST

    I'm not saying your shit etc,

    by lost jarv

    Just that there is a lot of blind hero worship in the Talkbacks (see also Cameron). Of course everyone loses "it" at some point, but all I'm saying is that if you read the articles and some of the comments here you'd think currently Spielberg was in his golden period. He isn't. He's lost his mojo. He may get it back, but at the moment, the thought of him using mocap to do Tintin (which he clearly doesn't understand) is too horrifying for words.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 5:43:39 AM CST

    Look at the Rolling Stones

    by franklin t marmoset

    They've sucked out loud since the mid-seventies, but that doesn't mean they don't deserve their place as one of the great rock bands.And Bob Dylan. He made born-again Christian albums in the late seventies/early eighties. Born-again Christian albums! But he's still Bob fucking Dylan, and he still deserves his reputation.Same for Spielberg. Not what he once was, maybe, but who is? (Apart from Tom Waits)

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  • Jan 06, 2009 5:45:24 AM CST

    I agree about the blind worship thing, though

    by franklin t marmoset

    That's always been weird to me.(Apart from Tom Waits)(And Evander Holyfield)

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  • Jan 06, 2009 5:45:57 AM CST

    There are plenty of creative types that never lost it

    by lost jarv

    and certainly didn't have a 15 year lull if they did. Spielberg should be admired for how prolific he is, and I'm damned grateful for the many hours of fun I've had thanks to him, but I wonder if maybe he took some time away and spent more than 1 year per film then perhaps he could return to former glories.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 5:50:05 AM CST

    The Stones.

    by lost jarv

    Should retire. It's getting sort of sad now. (Like when Holyfield announced his return to the ring last year)

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  • Jan 06, 2009 5:50:36 AM CST

    Damn Frankie

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Worship at the altar of Tom Waits much?And I have no idea what the Top 3 is, it's just a way of me saying Spielberg isn't Top Dog anymore.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 5:55:17 AM CST

    The Stones

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Were fucking ridiculous 10 years ago at the very least.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 5:55:23 AM CST

    Who hasn't lost it?

    by franklin t marmoset

    I'm not saying you're wrong - just interested to know what names you come up with.It's always seemed to me that most people - once they get to a certain age and comfort level - lose their creative edge and settle into, at best, cosy mediocrity.I've belaboured the point, but one of the reasons I love Tom Waits so much is that's never happened to him. He's just as creative and stubbornly independent as always.I'm sure there are others, but none are coming to mind at the moment.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 6:01:30 AM CST

    rather- who never lost it:

    by lost jarv

    and I'm thinking hard/ looking it up. Kubrick?

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  • Jan 06, 2009 6:07:08 AM CST

    Everyone has creative lulls

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Some are brief, some go for a long time. I don't view Spielbergs films as since Schindler as mostly bad. They are mostly good with a couple of great ones.Look at Eastwood. He made great films in the early to mid 90's (In the Line of Fire, Unforgiven, A Perfect World, Bridges of Madison County, Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil). Then he had a creative lull where he made servicable thrillers (Absolute Power, Space Cowboys, Bloodwork, True Crime). Then he made Mystic River and has made a bunch of great films since then.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 6:13:20 AM CST

    Kubrick is a possibility

    by franklin t marmoset

    I was never a huge fan of his (too cold), but he certainly never sank too far.It's hard to come up with names. Most people either:A) Lose it altogether, or;B) Had a really rough time of it in the Eighties (Neil Young, for example) before getting their act back together.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 6:15:38 AM CST

    Clint's a good example, Droid

    by franklin t marmoset

    He's had his peaks and troughs over the years, but he's definitely not a guy who's lost his creativity as he's gotten older.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 6:17:56 AM CST

    Hitchcock?

    by lost jarv

    maybe. I'm just going to check- now I've returned from freezing my balls off having a ciggy,

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  • Jan 06, 2009 6:23:48 AM CST

    Someone who completely lost it...

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Francis Ford Coppola

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  • Jan 06, 2009 6:25:49 AM CST

    Hmmm,

    by lost jarv

    I lean towards a "yes" with Hitch. Even if Torn Curtain does stain the record a bit.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 6:26:31 AM CST

    Fucking right, Droid

    by franklin t marmoset

    It blows my mind that the guy who made The Godfather, The Conversation and Apocalypse Now went on to do Jack (pretty much literally and figuratively).

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  • Jan 06, 2009 6:28:07 AM CST

    Clint

    by lost jarv

    the difference between Clint and Spielberg is that Spielberg has been consistently bad for 15 years with some good spots puncturing his record, whereas clint's "bad" period which was a fuck sight shorter than 15 years doesn't have anything that stinks as much as Jurassic Park 2 on it.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 6:28:56 AM CST

    Coppola-

    by lost jarv

    lost it and it's very fucking sad. I'll add Lucas to the permanently lost it pile as well (which is also sad).

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  • Jan 06, 2009 6:29:21 AM CST

    Most of those seventies guys blew it

    by franklin t marmoset

    Anyone read Easy Riders, Raging Bulls? Great book, and an excellent example of talented people having it all and then - whoops! - losing it.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 6:30:24 AM CST

    Thats why is said...

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Some are brief, some go for a long time.And I also don't agree that Spielberg has had quite the bad run that you think he has.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 6:32:53 AM CST

    Another who lost "it"

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Rob ReinerSpinal Tap, The Sure Thing, When Harry Met Sally, Misery. All gold. Since then? What? That piece of shit marriage bust up movie with Willis and Pfeiffer?

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  • Jan 06, 2009 6:35:34 AM CST

    And Stand By Me as well

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    He had a great run in the 80's

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  • Jan 06, 2009 6:37:22 AM CST

    Xi and Texas..and really the Big 12

    by just pillow talk

    Big 12 blows. That's what the bowl season is teaching me so far. The point will certainly be driven home if Florida whacks the living shit out of Sooner nation. No defense is not a good thing.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 6:39:08 AM CST

    That's just not true, Jarv

    by franklin t marmoset

    I get that you don't like Spielberg, and I agree that he's not what he once was, but to say he's been 'consistently bad for 15 years' is pointless hyperbole. Munich, Catch Me If You Can, Saving Private Ryan, War Of The Worlds - these are not bad films. Not as good as his earlier stuff, but not bad by any stretch.Transformers is a bad film. Ghost Rider is a bad film. The Mummy 3 is a bad film.Are you honestly saying Spielberg has been consistently Transformers bad for 15 years?

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  • Jan 06, 2009 6:39:30 AM CST

    watched part one of Red Cliff last night

    by just pillow talk

    Loved the shit out of it. The flute scene was great...so was the princess knocking out the horse. The "quieter" moments really made the movie for me. I can't wait to see part two now.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 6:41:04 AM CST

    I with the Frankster on this one....

    by just pillow talk

    You are being completely irrational on the Berg hate. You may have been disappointed with his more recent stuff, but they are not bad movies. FF is a bad movie...heh-heh...

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  • Jan 06, 2009 6:41:42 AM CST

    forgot my 'm with the I = I'm with.....

    by just pillow talk

    Coffee beckons me...

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  • Jan 06, 2009 6:44:43 AM CST

    Munich is the best but flawed of that bunch

    by lost jarv

    Catch me is mediocre, and SPR/ WOTW are downright bad. If either of them had been made by someone else then no-one would be pretending they are good. I would not willingly watch any of those again. Anyway, the standard for Spielberg fucking SHOULD be higher than for others as he is capable of so much more. We'll never agree with this one.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 6:45:46 AM CST

    Agreed - FF is a bad film

    by franklin t marmoset

    It's a bad film I enjoy, but that's neither here nor there (good day to you, JPT).The only films Spielberg has made that are as bad as FF are Hook and 1941, and those don't fall into your 15 year period.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 6:46:27 AM CST

    Minority Report is brilliant

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    And I agree on one thing. We'll never agree.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 6:46:38 AM CST

    and it's not that I don't like him or hate him

    by lost jarv

    I said above I'm damned grateful for the many hours of entertainment he's given me. I'm just a wee bit tired of being consistently disappointed by his films. He's not fucking Ratner. I said above that I reckon if he took more than 1 year between movies, then the quality would shoot up.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 6:50:34 AM CST

    Saving Private Ryan is a mixed bag

    by franklin t marmoset

    Parts of it are as good as anything Spielberg has done, and other parts are on the shitty side (mostly the sappy stuff).And, by the way, fuck William Goldman for initiating the Saving Private Ryan hate. Why anyone listens to that bitter old windbag is beyond me.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 6:51:46 AM CST

    Lost World is worse than both of those

    by lost jarv

    and is a truly bad film by any standard.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 6:54:29 AM CST

    Now, if you want to talk about let downs

    by franklin t marmoset

    At the gym last night I saw a telly showing an advert for some insurance company or other, and who was shilling for this insurance company?Iggy fucking Pop!What the hell are you doing advertising for insurance companies, James Jewel Osterberg! You were in The Stooges, for fuck's sake!

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  • Jan 06, 2009 6:54:32 AM CST

    not everyone can be The Rat

    by just pillow talk

    I think that's an unfair comparison and you should take that back.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 6:55:01 AM CST

    Frankie, What did Goldman say?

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Also, I think The Thin Red Line is a much better film than SPR.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 6:55:43 AM CST

    Iggy fucking Pop...

    by just pillow talk

    Was yamming it up on VH1's 100 greatest rock songs. BTW, GnR's Welcome to the Jungle was numero uno.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 6:59:48 AM CST

    Welcome To The Jungle

    by franklin t marmoset

    Great song, but I don't know about best rock song of all time.Mind you, how do you choose?

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  • Jan 06, 2009 7:01:39 AM CST

    toad and NFL predictions....

    by just pillow talk

    I think at least one of the higher seeds falls. Or maybe two, and we'll have two dreadful games like Ravens vs. Steelers (9 - 6 final score) and Panthers vs. Eagles. I seriously think that the Titans are most vulnerable. The Ravens' D can create points, which that pitiful QB and offense need, and I wouldn't have too much confidence in Kerry Collins vs. that blitz. However, at least Kerry has an arm and shouldn't be throwing floaters like good 'ol Chad. I have little confidence in the Cards competing, but if they win, then that would make a very unattractive NFC championship. The G-men always have problems with the Eagles, so who knows how that will turn out. The Steelers should hope that the Chargers are running out of steam, because they would be my trendy pick.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 7:04:11 AM CST

    I think it was a massive voting thingie Frankie...

    by just pillow talk

    Here's how I would look at it: you'll never be able to agree on a "best", but I think you should be able to get roughly a top 25 rock songs, and have a decent consensus on that at least. The order would completely vary, but a top 25 sounds reasonable.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 7:05:09 AM CST

    I didn't know Godman hated it.

    by lost jarv

    I hated it from the moment I saw it. So am therefore ahead of the curve on that one.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 7:07:06 AM CST

    That;s the ad with bruce willis, Alice Cooper and Ringo

    by lost jarv

    isn't it. It makes me want to hurt the fucking sloaney cunt that came up with it.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 7:09:15 AM CST

    there is no point taking a popular vote

    by lost jarv

    on culture stuff simply because people have no attention span whatsoever so always vote for complete shit as "the bestestestsest evah" If you're going to do that call it "favourite" or "most popular" don't call it "best".

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  • Jan 06, 2009 7:12:35 AM CST

    hang on, explain to me how minority report is great

    by lost jarv

    and not an overhyped, unimaginative, predictable, derivative piece of crap that wallows in sentimentaity and is underpinned by a truly horrible and smug performance from Cruise. The only bit of that film I honestly enjoyed were the retina scanning spiders.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 7:13:49 AM CST

    Speaking of Spielberg

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    I'm currently watching Band of Brothers on Bluray. Never seen it before. I'm seven episodes in. Its very good so far.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 7:29:15 AM CST

    Band of Brothers fucking rules

    by just pillow talk

    I have to watch Minority Report again. I remember liking it, but we'll see if I still do.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 7:32:57 AM CST

    Bastogne episode...

    by just pillow talk

  • Jan 06, 2009 7:39:04 AM CST

    Band Of Brothers is excellent

    by franklin t marmoset

    I just saw it recently and I liked it very much.My grandad was a paratrooper in WWII, so that episode where they were all getting shot to shit while jumping out of planes blew my little mind. It's amazing to think people actually had to do that kind of thing. I would piss my pants.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 7:40:20 AM CST

    Too fucking cold to smoke

    by franklin t marmoset

    If this carries on, we're going to have to build a fire in an old oil drum just to keep warm.We'll be smoking hobos!

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  • Jan 06, 2009 7:44:05 AM CST

    fuck that was horrid

    by lost jarv

    I think I've got frostbite now

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  • Jan 06, 2009 7:45:19 AM CST

    no doubt about it Frankie...

    by just pillow talk

    Just like in The Longest Day with the paratroopers missing their mark and becoming sitting ducks. That's another movie that's great.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 7:46:05 AM CST

    as a non-smoker, I laugh in general direction

    by just pillow talk

    fuck, it's hot in my office.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 7:49:32 AM CST

    if this cold snap keeps up I may have to give up

    by lost jarv

    this is terrible.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 7:50:51 AM CST

    Goldman and Saving Private Ryan

    by franklin t marmoset

    He wrote an essay, not too long after the film came out, ripping it apart because the tone of the opening scene didn't match the rest of the film. Which is to say, the Omaha beach bit shows the ugly futility of war while the rest of the film is about 'little Matt Damon' (to use Goldman's phrase) learning life lessons.There's some truth to what he says, but fuck that, it's still a good film. The only parts I don't like are the sappy parts, but that's Spielberg for you - he always goes for the cheese.By the way, if you're interested in the mechanics of screenwriting (and some stuff about Hollywood politics), Adventures In The Screen Trade is a worthwhile read. Which Lie Did I Tell? (which has the Ryan essay) is just the rantings of a bitter old man.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 7:51:03 AM CST

    unfortunately for you, pillows,

    by lost jarv

    my old bear likess cigars and refuses to go outside to smoke when it's cold. So the house of pillow will be a smokey hell hole now.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 7:52:04 AM CST

    I'm about to brave the chill

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    all in the name of poisoning myself!

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  • Jan 06, 2009 7:53:48 AM CST

    Frankie

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    I've read one of his books. It had a lot about Misery and The Princess Bride in it.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 7:54:47 AM CST

    We're all panty waists who would soil our pants

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Our generation couldn't handle storming a beach as a curtain of hot lead rained down upon us or jumping out of an airplane as flak exploded all around us.Glad to hear you liked Red Cliff, JPT. I particularly liked the "run through the mud" scene. Part two should be out in a few months.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 7:56:41 AM CST

    I will not let the cold beat me

    by franklin t marmoset

    I have not let the moaners and the meddlers beat me, I have not let the preposerously escalating prices beat, and I have not let those ugly fucking pictures they put on tobacco pouches beat me. The cold will not beat me, either.I AM SMOKER!

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  • Jan 06, 2009 7:59:18 AM CST

    Speaking of screenwriting mechanics

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Lately I've been churning through books from Syd Field, Blake Snyder and Dave Trottier.Sadly, some of the nonsense in Hollywood that these guys detail almost makes you want to give up.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 8:04:16 AM CST

    Donor

    by lost jarv

    wouldn't bet on that. You never know until it's asked of you. People do the strangest things under pressure. I also liked Red Cliff and was impressed at the relatively low bird count for a woo film.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 8:06:14 AM CST

    Damn that's cold!

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    I haven't bought a pack of smokes in the UK for almost 2 years. I go to spain a lot and get them for half the price of the UK. It's probably why i still smoke! Viva España!

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  • Jan 06, 2009 8:09:03 AM CST

    Jarv

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    I think the mentallity of today is a lot different. I think it would have to be something more than just "to serve your country" to get that many people to put themselves in that situation.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 8:09:34 AM CST

    There's some good stuff in those books

    by franklin t marmoset

    The problem is, Hollywood studios like their screenplays to adhere to the rules much to closely, which is why there are so many generic studio films these days.The trite psychological character arc is one of my least favourite fads to come out of that kind of thinking.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 8:12:07 AM CST

    way to beat the price hikes

    by lost jarv

    buy smuggled tobacco. What? That's against the law? since when.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 8:14:35 AM CST

    No doubt, but human nature is funny

    by lost jarv

    I bet if the circumstances are right you'd get people to do it. You'd probably need a Starship Troopers style ad campaign though.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 8:16:16 AM CST

    I also rarely buy fags in the UK

    by lost jarv

    mother in law lives in Spain, friends go abroad a lot, and mates wife is german. So have a massive supply of cheapy fags.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 8:20:14 AM CST

    Hilarious:

    by lost jarv

    From the Guardian: "While the rest of the world was distracted by the Corinthian spectacle of the Beijing Olympics, cheerleading, that most American of sports, had yet another annus horribilis.

    As a TV special about 2006's infamous real-life Texas cheerleader scandal (in which, to quote the Dallas Morning News "psycho mutant harpies" terrorised a Texas school like "greedy and sadistic rampaging Visigoths") hit US TV screens, cheerleading was confirmed as the most violent and dangerous sport on the planet, and Indian cricket was rocked to its very foundations by a "vulgar and obscene" cheerleading controversy, real-time cheerleading in George Bush's America was rocked by a devastating series of moral, aesthetic and criminal outrages.

    Scandal followed crime-spree followed rampage followed savage beating followed rude picture outrage after rude picture outrage as the sport's seemingly never-ending vortex of drugs, booze, sexploitation, violence and kidnapping once again hurtled spectacularly out of control along the very edge of the cliff of utter and total chaos, making 2008 a vintage year for connoisseurs of bad cheerleaders.

    Particular kudos goes to the varsity cheerleaders of the Morton Ranch High School in Katy, Texas who were sent to trial accused of blindfolding junior cheerleaders in bandages, duct-taping their hands, "flicking their body parts", wrapping them in cling film and then pushing them into a swimming pool.

    And that's not all. "When a girl (beep) in her pants and puts her pants on another girl's head, that's just disgusting," said the sister of one defiled junior, according to a local newspaper.

    In Florida, six cheerleaders aged 14-17 kidnapped and — in a beating that lasted half an hour — hurt another cheerleader so badly she needed hospital treatment for concussion. And they then allegedly tried to post a video of the attack on MySpace.

    In West Virginia female cheerleaders sued male cheerleaders for sexual harassment. In North Carolina a cheerleader from a private Christian high school was busted for selling drugs. In Nacogdoches, Texas, cheerleaders mock executed a rival school's mascot with handguns. In New England a Patriots cheerleader was fired for drawing penises, swastikas and anti-Semitic slurs on drunk people.

    And the Arizona State Cheerleaders had naughty pics leaked on the internet as did the Sacramento Kings cheerleaders, a school cheerleading team in Seattle, the Winnipeg Blue Bombers cheerleading squad, the Orange Coast College cheerleaders in Costa Mesa, California, the cheerleaders at a school in North Carolina, and the Cleveland Cavs cheerleaders.

    And then there was the 33-year-old mom in Wisconsin who stole her 15-year-old daughter's identity so she could join the cheerleading team (she was discovered when the cheque for her cheerleading uniform bounced).

    Further exploring what feminists call "the madonna/whore dichotomy" (in the land that prides itself on possessing the morals of 16th century Holland and yet produces over 98 per cent of the world's hard core pornography), the University of Idaho cheerleaders were embroiled in a too-sexy-uniform scandal.

    In October there was a national outcry when USA Networks "degayed" the out gay cheerleader character Les in a screening of the movie Bring It On (while leaving untouched the film's several homophobic slurs). This follows the removal of a gay cheerleader character from Heroes in 2007.

    Cheerleader scandal wasn't limited to the US. In Tokyo a boy killed himself after being violently bullied by other cheerleaders. And in India there were allegations that two British cricket cheerleaders were asked to sit out a match because their skin was "too dark".

    But all this was just the tip of an iceberg — an iceberg of sleaze, violence, substance abuse, puritanism, hypocrisy, bullshit and corruption that makes the sordid world of underground dogfighting look positively wholesome.

    There have been many great years for cheerleader sleaze — in fact every year seems to be great year for cheerleader sleaze — but 2008 might well go down in history as one of the all-time greats."
    People are strange. Even Women.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 8:21:42 AM CST

    DOes the US really produce 98% of the worlds porn

    by lost jarv

    that's funny.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 8:25:42 AM CST

    Bring it on 4: Flicking Body Parts

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    They don't like the darkies in India.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 8:27:57 AM CST

    I have seen Bring It On a number of times...

    by franklin t marmoset

    ...and I had not realised the gay cheerleader (who is a guy) was named 'Les'.That's funny.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 8:29:50 AM CST

    My favourite part of that article:

    by franklin t marmoset

    "In New England a Patriots cheerleader was fired for drawing penises, swastikas and anti-Semitic slurs on drunk people."I demand that this woman be given some sort of role in Iron Man II. I want to see her drawing penises, swastikas and anti-Semitic slurs on drunk Iron Man.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 8:32:17 AM CST

    over 98 per cent of the world's hard core pornography

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    I find it hard to believe they produce that much.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 8:33:51 AM CST

    nothing more pathetic than a dumb bitch with no money

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    "And then there was the 33-year-old mom in Wisconsin who stole her 15-year-old daughter's identity so she could join the cheerleading team (she was discovered when the cheque for her cheerleading uniform bounced)."

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  • Jan 06, 2009 8:37:40 AM CST

    You know, maybe I am gay after all

    by franklin t marmoset

    I'm all sad because it's the last Gilmore Girls today, I have seen Bring It On many times, and that bit about the 33 year old mom reminds me of that Buffy episode where the mom swapped bodies with Amy so she could be on the cheerleading squad.A radical re-think of my lifestyle choices may be in order here.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 8:44:02 AM CST

    further things against you-

    by lost jarv

    You have a gym fetish.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 8:44:48 AM CST

    The Gay Test

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Bring It On - CheckGilmore Girls - CheckBuffy - CheckThree out of three, Frankie. Time to re-evaluate things.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 8:47:10 AM CST

    The other bit that made me laugh

    by lost jarv

    "And they then allegedly tried to post a video of the attack on MySpace" Do you want to bet that their parents blamed the internet. What sort of fucking cretin does that, anyway.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 8:48:17 AM CST

    Too true, Jarv

    by franklin t marmoset

    There's the gym thing, and I am also very tidy. My kitchen is spotless!What kind of straight man has a spotless kitchen!!

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  • Jan 06, 2009 8:56:04 AM CST

    And you were talking about knitting the other day

    by lost jarv

    not to mention that you hate football.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 8:58:20 AM CST

    I don't really think you need to go any further than...

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Gilmore Girls.Thats the give-away right there.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 9:04:30 AM CST

    This reminds me of that Seinfeld episode

    by franklin t marmoset

    The one where the woman thinks Jerry and George are gay."Just because I'm single and thin and neat, it doesn't mean I'm gay! Not that there's anything wrong with that!"There are possible indicators of non gayness:1) That warm, pleasant feeling I get whenever I watch a Rihanna video.2) The idea of a cock up my ass does absolutely nothing for me whatsoever. I believe gay guys are into that.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 9:08:37 AM CST

    eeek!

    by lost jarv

    Mrs. Jarv has been at the Lovefilm list again. This is going to take some serious pruning to avoid The Happening making it

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  • Jan 06, 2009 9:13:19 AM CST

    The Happening

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    The idea is just stupid. I can live with a stupid idea if its entertaining. Its not. Its just boring and shit.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 9:21:57 AM CST

    I think you're just confused

    by lost jarv

    could be worse. You could be Welsh.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 9:22:50 AM CST

    I've been thinking about watching The Happening

    by franklin t marmoset

    I heard it was really bad, and Lady In The Water was entertainingly awful.I've got to stop spending my money on bad films, though. It usually ends badly.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 9:23:56 AM CST

    Someone at her work recommended it

    by lost jarv

    and they'll have meant it. I hate those tossers. They're the same bastards that got Brown Bunny and other "gems" inflicted on me.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 9:27:05 AM CST

    There's no Welshness here, Jarv

    by franklin t marmoset

    I am the descendent of a long line of Bristolians (on my dad's side) and Liverpudlians (on my mum's side).Thank god for that.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 9:28:47 AM CST

    I watched Predator over the break as well

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Damn thats a classic. It just whips by as well. Entertaining from start to finish.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 9:31:52 AM CST

    Anyone seen any of the new Futuramas?

    by franklin t marmoset

    You can't rent them anywhere, but I don't want to buy them if they sully the good name of Futurama.Any opinions?

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  • Jan 06, 2009 9:37:40 AM CST

    I've seen three of them

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    They are okay. They don't sully the good name of Futurama, but they aren't as good as the series for some reason. I think it has to do with the long format. Its a show that worked better in 20 minute allotments.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 9:39:06 AM CST

    Predator is great

    by franklin t marmoset

    I can watch that one over and over - definitely one of Arnold's best.I lent the DVD to my mother once, but she didn't like it because there was a man talking over everything. Bless her, she does not understand how to turn off the commentary track.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 9:41:30 AM CST

    I'm just looking through Lovefilm's recommendations and am

    by lost jarv

    struck by the fact that they really get me wrong. They seem to have recommended anything asian on their books, regardless of content. Fools.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 9:42:14 AM CST

    I feel like buying something for the weekend

    by franklin t marmoset

    Maybe the new Futuramas, maybe some more Seinfelds, or maybe season 4 of The Wire.It's time for another raid on Zavvi, I reckon.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 9:42:41 AM CST

    or any old horror bollocks

    by lost jarv

    I'm very picky when it comes to horror.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 9:43:30 AM CST

    I think The Wire will be my next tv show to tackle

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Everyone says its awesome

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  • Jan 06, 2009 9:44:46 AM CST

    HMV is the way forward at this time of year

    by lost jarv

    you can get allsorts for bugger all money. And won't be harassed by the great unwashed looking for a closing down sale bargain. A mate of mine went to zavvi with his missus yesterday and they came back with a truly dreadful load of pish. He was gutted.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 9:50:12 AM CST

    Do I want to see A Room for Romeo Brass again

    by lost jarv

    I seem to remember it being fucking depressing.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 9:56:07 AM CST

    Christ, they've recommended Kong to me

    by lost jarv

    I'm actually rating their recommendations to get them to stop this. Kong gets 1/2* and that's because I can't give it 0

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  • Jan 06, 2009 9:56:14 AM CST

    DING!

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    1000 POSTS

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  • Jan 06, 2009 9:58:18 AM CST

    I wonder why they think I will want to watch

    by lost jarv

    Big Momma's House 2. I didn't even know such a beast existed. Can't say I'm surprised though.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 9:59:49 AM CST

    or Van Wilder 2

    by lost jarv

    granted, I quite like Van Wilder 1- but how on earth did they think a sequel without Reynolds was a good idea?

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  • Jan 06, 2009 9:59:58 AM CST

    The Wire is excellent, Droid

    by franklin t marmoset

    If you're after something that's a little more complex and involving than your run-of-the-mill telly stuff, I can't recommend The Wire highly enough.It's definitely one of the best TV shows of the last ten years, and I haven't even seen the whole thing yet. From what I've heard, you don't get the full impact until you've made it to the end.I think I just convinced myself to get some more Wire for the weekend.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:02:16 AM CST

    HMV?

    by franklin t marmoset

    I'll give it a go. They just opened a new fuck-off huge HMV here in Bristol, so maybe this is a chance to check it out.It's going to be a cold, quiet weekend, and I need to lock myself away in the bunker with some quality entertainment.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:03:44 AM CST

    fortunately for me Jarv, the bear is never home

    by just pillow talk

    once we get back home from my work. That's his pillaging time. I no longer get calls from the town police department on account of the bear "visiting" them last week.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:05:47 AM CST

    Maybe Lovefilm knows you better than you think, Jarv

    by franklin t marmoset

    Why don't you invest a little cash in the Big Momma's House 1 & 2 box set?You need to watch both those films a few times to peel away the layers and fully appreciate the subtext and themes and whatnot.Why not also treat yourself to Norbit while you're there?

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:05:47 AM CST

    Jonah, if you're around....

    by just pillow talk

    Chop Shop is being sent with my next batch of netflix movies, along with Mongol and Hancock. Yup, I will give Hancock a look-see.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:05:58 AM CST

    Because of bulk buying and campaigns

    by lost jarv

    HMV is usually ridiculously overstocked going in to January. SO therefore you can pick up some great bargains.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:06:45 AM CST

    perhaps Big Momma's house will sneak into

    by just pillow talk

    the "delight" category. Wouldn't that be, well, a delight?

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:09:04 AM CST

    get fucked

    by lost jarv

    Big Momma's house was horrible. Why would I want to watch BMH2?

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:10:09 AM CST

    bastards.

    by lost jarv

  • Jan 06, 2009 10:10:22 AM CST

    I'm taking the piss, but I haven't seen those films

    by franklin t marmoset

    Big Momma's House (1 or 2) or Norbit.Maybe they're mint, I don't know.Probably not, though.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:11:36 AM CST

    and now they're recommending Star Trek

    by lost jarv

    I don't like Star Trek. Mrs. Jarv does, though, so I'd better leave it.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:12:25 AM CST

    I know that.

    by lost jarv

    Cheeky monkey.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:14:07 AM CST

    I'll set my new bear on you.

    by lost jarv

    Got him for Christmas. He isn't big enough to ride into work yet, so I'm training him to eat the Welsh.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:17:57 AM CST

    Lovefilm would drive me insane, and well,

    by just pillow talk

    Probably make me drop them. And quickly reading through Harry's latest DVD column, Righteous Kill, Babylon A.D., and Bangkok Dangerous are more than likely shit films, but coming from Harry, doesn't mean shit. The dude loves shit films to begin with, so I don't see how he wouldn't like those shit films. I've added them all on my queue, as I'm hoping the Nic Cage one is ridiculous, and I hope Vin's is stupid enough to entertain me. Righteous Kill I'm sure will just plain suck.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:18:04 AM CST

    Unfortunately, I've seen...

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    BMH 1 & 2 AND Norbit. Don't ask me why. I'm irrationally drawn to films i know will be shit because I need to witness how bad they are. It's why I watched Death Race.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:19:06 AM CST

    anyone see Next with Mr. Cage?

    by just pillow talk

    I have that on my queue and wondering if it's classic dumbness from the Cagerator.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:21:22 AM CST

    Since I started rating their recommendations

    by lost jarv

    they've got better. But they still keep throwing pish like "An American Haunting" at me.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:24:07 AM CST

    THe problem being they aren't sophisticated

    by lost jarv

    enough to spot the difference between me giving Carpenter's The Fog 3 and 1/2 and rating the remake with 1/2. Therefore they keep fucking offering garbage.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:25:25 AM CST

    Man I've seen some shit films

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    I've seen Righteous Kill, which is in my Worst 5 of 2008 and I've seen Next which is just shit. Not entertainingly shit like Afflecks Paycheck.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:26:32 AM CST

    That's better.

    by lost jarv

    They've just recommended Bad Education and Lady Vengeance. I own both of these, but to make sure that they understand I've given both 5.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:27:16 AM CST

    I've also seen Babylon AD

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    which is just a fucking nonsensical mess.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:27:33 AM CST

    Paycheck is funny

    by lost jarv

    really is a paycheck movie from all involved. I have a yen to watch cypher again.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:28:44 AM CST

    Damn it.

    by lost jarv

    They just ruined it by offering The Omen Remake. Fools.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:29:31 AM CST

    Next is dumb, but not dumb enough

    by franklin t marmoset

    The premise is ripe for all kinds of silliness (and it is pretty daft in places), but it's more of a dull and generic action film than anything else.It does have a whopper of a cop-out at the end, though.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:30:11 AM CST

    I don't even bother with Harry's DVD column

    by lost jarv

    any more. His word is just pointless.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:31:23 AM CST

    Gods bless you, Jarv

    by franklin t marmoset

    I love that you are, essentially, having an argument with the Lovefilm recommendation software.Keep it up. I'm rooting for you to win, mate!

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:33:24 AM CST

    Cypher

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    I really enjoyed that. It seemed like a great introduction to a super spy. I wouldn't mind seeing a sequel.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:37:11 AM CST

    right. I will win this.

    by lost jarv

    I've been doing it all afternoon and feel optimistic that they won't recommend complete shite to me once I'm done.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:37:24 AM CST

    oh, I just use his column to know what's getting released

    by just pillow talk

    as I tend to forget. However, all these knock downs of crappy films has me a bit sad.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:38:20 AM CST

    Cypher

    by lost jarv

    fantastic film. Totally liked it. The fuckers have just offered me that Twat and Dick film. AAAARGH. Just because it has the word "Alien" in the title doesn't mean I'll like it.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:39:49 AM CST

    has anyone seen Terror Train

    by lost jarv

    it sounds quite appealing. And has Jamie Lee in it.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:41:55 AM CST

    Is Leviathon on dvd?

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    I remember watching that when I was about 11 and it scared the absolute shit out of me.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:43:24 AM CST

    Whatever happened to VIn Diesel?

    by lost jarv

    I thought he was going to be the next proper action star and then he started making shit like The Pacifier. Dude needs to make another Riddick film. Except one that makes sense this time.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:44:22 AM CST

    Leviathen.

    by lost jarv

    Dunno. I'll find out.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:47:53 AM CST

    Leviathan

    by lost jarv

    Lovefilm don't have it (Quelle fucking surprise), but that doesn't mean anything. It could well be.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:48:24 AM CST

    Vin Diesel and The Rock: Adrift in the same boat

    by franklin t marmoset

    I think the problem with those two is timing (and too many shit films). They've both tried to become the new Arnold in an era that doesn't want a new Arnold.These days, people want either of two extremes - colourful comic book action charcaters, or more down-to-earth stuff like Jason Bourne.Vin and Dwayne would probably have been huge in the late eighties/early nineties, but they've been done over by the whims of fashion (and too many shit films).

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:49:56 AM CST

    Not in Region 2

    by lost jarv

    Sorry. What a shame.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:50:24 AM CST

    Amazon have Leviathan on DVD, but it's Region 1

    by franklin t marmoset

    Alternatively, they also have the VHS version for 47p!

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:54:42 AM CST

    The Rock can act

    by lost jarv

    He's the only good thing about that shitburger Be Cool.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:55:31 AM CST

    Damn.

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    I had a hankering for that. God knows why. I haven't thought of it for years.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:56:11 AM CST

    That'll do for today

    by franklin t marmoset

    Cheers, all. I'm off.P.S. I would appreciate some fucking sensitivity tomorrow from you cunts. I'm watching the last Gilmore Girls tonight, so I may be a little emotional tomorrow...

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:57:27 AM CST

    I know I was tempted by that £0.47 tape

    by lost jarv

  • Jan 06, 2009 10:58:44 AM CST

    Marmoset

    by hobocode

    You're not kidding about The Wire not having full impact until the end. Let's just say a beloved character bites the dust and it feels like you just got kicked in the balls....HARD.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:59:12 AM CST

    ^^P.S.

    by hobocode

    Like. A. Bitch.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:59:32 AM CST

    I like The Rock, but...

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Yes, he's been in too many shit films. I mean Arnie was in many a shit film, but he was always above it. Raw Deal? Red Heat? Shit films. But classics nonetheless. Especially Red Heat. Belushi swearing his head off. Spilling coffee on his groin and yelling "God damn it! I just burnt my cock off!" Genius.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 11:02:22 AM CST

    Saving Private Ryan sucks goats balls

    by xiphos_2

    A truely awful, horrid piece of shit of an alleged "movie". Except for the amphibious operation in the beginning there is nothing redeeming about that dung heap of a film.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 11:05:17 AM CST

    The Happening DON'T WATCH IT!

    by xiphos_2

    Unless you're a self hating indiviual or a masochist. It's as bad as SPR and it dosen't have a good ten minute opening sequence.The Happening isn't even good bad it's just bad beyond belief.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 11:07:54 AM CST

    Porn

    by xiphos_2

    I don't know if 98% is produced in the United States but of the movie produced there almost all of it is shot and edited in the San Fernado Valley.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 11:11:48 AM CST

    yeah...not only is 98% of porn shot in the U.S.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ....but 97.5% of the porn shot in the U.S. is shot in my own backyard. The beautiful SAN FERNANDO VALLEY!!!

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  • Jan 06, 2009 11:13:11 AM CST

    Fuck's sake

    by lost jarv

    make sure you stop at the shops on the way home and buy a pair of testicles.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 11:13:20 AM CST

    shit...Xiphos beat me...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    .....his knowledge of the porn industry is far more extensive than my own.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 11:14:36 AM CST

    The Pacifier was a very cool film....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...and far more entertaining than Kindergarten Cop.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 11:17:19 AM CST

    HOD

    by xiphos_2

    You're wrong about about kids today not being able to pull off a large scale assault. I've been working with "kids" in this field for twenty years now, since I was a kid. It's more then possible, because we've done before. All be it not on the scale of the Marine Corps or Army in WW2 but we've done it.Now I would agree that initially, at the boot camp level, the job has become harder because kids have a more entitled thought process today. A majority of them are soft suburban kids, but after a few weeks of boot they shed the pounds and stiffen the minds.The biggest obstical the Drill Instructors have to overcome is the fact that the western world has lost track of its rural roots. History has repeatedly shown that the best western armies are comprised of soldiers with backrounds in farming and ranching.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 11:18:00 AM CST

    The Pacifier blew

    by lost jarv

    Kindergarten Cop destroys it.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 11:18:18 AM CST

    The Happening

    by hobocode

    Good film.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 11:21:54 AM CST

    DGDB

    by xiphos_2

    I knew some people years ago in the porn business. That is the extent of my knoweldege of the production side.The rest of what I know about Porn is well, self explainatory.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 11:30:40 AM CST

    Walking Tall

    by hobocode

    Semi-decent Rock film. Only one I've seen.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 11:43:41 AM CST

    outta here

    by lost jarv

  • Jan 06, 2009 11:46:42 AM CST

    The Pacifier

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Come on...that shit with the kid meeting up in the alley with all those skinheads wearing Nazi armbands and Vin coming to find out they are all performing in The Sound of Music, was fucking hilarious. And that Kangaroo song Vin sings and dances for the little girl to put her to sleep-- bad ass. I like Vin and The Rock....but I think I like Vin a little more. But The Rock was brilliant in Gridiron Gang. "JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE LOCKED UP.......YOU'RE STILL SOMEBODY!"

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  • Jan 06, 2009 11:51:16 AM CST

    military stuff is such a weird concept to me...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ....it feels like its not real. Like its just in a movie or on an alien planet-- when people talk about boot camp and shit like that. Like saying the soft suburban kids toughen the minds in boot camp.
    It just amazes me that world exists. I guess thats what happens when you are born and raised and live in the suburbs of a major city and never get anywhere near that world-- it feels foreign. It just baffles me that still needs to exist.
    And Xiphos...I thought you were younger.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 11:56:24 AM CST

    Next is not bad enough to be a classic....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood



    ....its just sorta dull. Its an okay dull movie. But its not like so bad you're laughing hysterically the entire time, which was sorta disappointing. I think its because of Julianne Moore.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 12:02:54 PM CST

    DGDB

    by xiphos_2

    See I find the suburbs a forgien place and as far as that world "needs" to exist, it always has and always will.Danny, I'm starring down the barrel at fourty, hard but my emotional growth stopped at fifteen. I spend most of my time with/around people aged twenty five and under, so I think I got a handle on how they think. I was enlisted in the Army by the juvinile court system of Maricopa County AZ at seventeen. Except for the two years I knocked off college(which I hated every second of) I've either been in the Army, The Marines or the reserves. That's my world and in it I'm very experienced.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 12:30:40 PM CST

    Hah! any place that's not the "norm" for oneself

    by just pillow talk

    would be considered foreign. We have plants all over the country in tucked away corners of places like Calera, AL, and Marston, NC. They consider CT a foreign place, and guess what, it's reversed when we go there. From my perspective, it's more the damn magma type heat down there, but still...And I'm talking out of my ass here, but the military is a totally different animal, with a totally different 'cultural'. Much like, if you will, different business cultures exist like Google and say, IBM.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 12:49:26 PM CST

    JPT

    by xiphos_2

    Cultre is the exact right word to use and the IBM Google example is spot on. IBM is a suit and tie button down sort of place vs Google, free wheeling, wear shorts, bring your dog to work bean bag cultre. Different ends of the spectrum but both are very successful. The one thng about the military that people don't understand, especially around AICN, is that it's not how it's portrayed in TV and Movies. Almost nothing is actually. I'm sure Cops, Lawyers, Doctors all bitch about how they're portrayed. Do certain aspects of services get showned correctly, yes they do, but overall movies and TV missed by a mile. So people getr some truly bizaare notions of how the armed forces work and what we do.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 12:52:04 PM CST

    Huh?

    by hobocode

    The juvenile court system can enroll someone in the Army? That's fucked up.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 12:56:52 PM CST

    yeah....they are just different cultures....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...that exist in our world. I suppose its just the emotional end of it that seems so bizarre to me. Thats where it differs from any business culture. Sure-- you can argue that there are emotional ramifications that come along with any industry or profession-- but I'm talking the old high school friends that spend time overseas and come back completely different people. I have a few old friends like that, that came back vacant and different and not at all the same person they once were. I guess after seeing stuff like that-- it just amazes me people still voluntarily sign up for it. And I'm not trying to slam military or make some anti-war statement or anything like that. I'm just saying its interesting because its a world that seems like its on another planet to me. Its not different than someone saying they are moisture farmers on Mars or something.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 12:57:40 PM CST

    yeah...involuntarily enroll you Xiphos?

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    The juvenile court that is....

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  • Jan 06, 2009 1:05:03 PM CST

    It was that

    by xiphos_2

    Or get charged as an adult for ag assault so I took the deal. It was also 1986 and Judges had way more discression in sentencing then they do today because the bullshit mandatory sentencing guidline crap did not exist then.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 1:14:00 PM CST

    The involuntary thing

    by xiphos_2

    I was being cheeky with the involuntary comment, sorry. It was the best thing that happened to me becuase if it didn't I would probably be in prison today. I was on that path.I know more then a few people from when I was in foster care or juvie that are doing life sentences on the installment plan, a few years in, few month out and then back inside. No thanks not for me anymore.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 1:21:24 PM CST

    Danny

    by xiphos_2

    Could some of that changes in your friends have to with changes that naturally ocurre to person over thier life's journey? Everyday and every experience has the possibility of etching a change in a persons outlook. I 'm not that discounting combat can change a person but honestly, not all combat troops see a whole lot of combat, sometimes it's even none. So on that level I sort of agree with what HOD wrote above.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 1:22:46 PM CST

    Damn.

    by hobocode

    What kind of time would you have done? U.S. military service would scare the fuck out of me. I would move to Canada or eat a bullet before I enlisted among the ranks of aggravated assaulters and god knows what else. I've even read they're loosening restrictions on who can enlist even more because of the need for recruits. Fucking Neo-Nazis and shit signing up in droves. These are our emissaries to the world? I'm a big pussy but even for someone with backbone that's intimidating.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 1:34:42 PM CST

    "came back vacant and different and..."

    by just pillow talk

    not at all the same person they once were".I've heard marriage does that when one marries the wrong person too!Seriously, I think you have prime examples like Xi and Toad where clearly they are NOT vacant, and CAN have very coherent thoughts and know about the world around them. I know you were by no means implying that Danny, but much like everything else in the world, stereo-typing or pigeon-holing a group is NEVER a good thing.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 1:35:53 PM CST

    and BTW...by me putting a few words in CAPS

    by just pillow talk

    means I'm RIGHT. A-ha!

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  • Jan 06, 2009 1:53:39 PM CST

    "lower standards" is a BS statement

    by xiphos_2

    The lower standard only applies to the Army, and what they're are accepting is a somewhat larger pool of people with GEDs and some minor criminal records like noncriminal DUI.The Marine Corps has excessive amounts of people wanting to enlist, and turns away people, so we don't have to lower any standadars. Because we are so much smaller then all the other services we can have higher standards for recruits then the Army, Navy or Air Force.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 1:57:10 PM CST

    Neo nazis

    by xiphos_2

    WTF are you talking about?

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  • Jan 06, 2009 1:59:50 PM CST

    Never mind

    by xiphos_2

    I forgot who wrote that. forget the question.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 2:02:23 PM CST

    Here you go, Xi. Read it and weep.

    by hobocode

    From the southern Poverty Law Center:
    A new FBI report confirms that white supremacists are infiltrating the military for several reasons. According to the unclassified FBI Intelligence Assessment, “White Supremacist Recruitment of Military Personnel Since 9/11,” which was released to law enforcement agencies nationwide: “Sensitive and reliable source reporting indicates supremacist leaders are encouraging followers who lack documented histories of neo-Nazi activity and overt racist insignia such as tattoos to infiltrate the military as ‘ghost skins,’ in order to recruit and receive training for the benefit of the extremist movement.”

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  • Jan 06, 2009 2:44:10 PM CST

    pillow....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Its also not good to broadly defend just for the sake of defending. More often than not-- people come back fucked up. And I can only make that statement based on what I have personally seen with family and friends. Xiphos and Toad are both very intelligent guys that made the best of it. Doesn't mean thats the case with everyone.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 2:45:35 PM CST

    Hobo

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    So thats what Coughlins Laws is gonna do when his restaurant closes. COOL!

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  • Jan 06, 2009 5:44:16 PM CST

    Munich (2005) - Bad

    by series7

  • Jan 06, 2009 5:48:25 PM CST

    The Pacifier

    by series7

    Was written by Lt. Dangle and Jr from Reno 911. And directed by Jr.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 8:18:34 PM CST

    Where is everyone tonight?

    by series7

    Guess I'll go back to watching Ping Pong Playa, The Wackness and The Ass of Jesse James.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 8:22:35 PM CST

    All this talk of war...

    by worldofwarcraft

    Makes me start wishing tropic Thunder was a better movie again

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  • Jan 06, 2009 8:25:23 PM CST

    Node reality check get your tissues out

    by xiphos_2

    That allegation has been floating around since at least 1987, that was the first time I heard it. The the same story has popped up regularly every three years since then. In fact there was a big DOD investigation in conjunctioin with the Department of Justice in 95 I think, nothing was found. There have beeen various investgations in every service since then. Are there individuals or even a couple of jerk offs that subscribe to that philisophy sure. Is it some massive consipracy, no its not. Want to know why? The Armed forces since like 2000 I think, PHOTOGRAPHS tattos when you enlist and they detail exactly what they are. The Army, since I think 2001 has prohibited the getting of any large or visible Tatts. The Marine Corps has since followed suit in 2007. If you are in a Special Operations unit you can't have ANY tats at all. That regulation goes back to around the late 70's for teh Army and like the late 90's for JSOC. The Feebs at the FBI also said that radical Muslims and street gangs were doing the same thing. Guess what? nada there also.lastly, Marine NCOs have been instructed to look for gang tatts both Nazi and street. If I ever saw a 14, 88, an eagle with the blood dripping of the right claw, a latin kings crown, a crips or blood mark, let alone a swastika, somebody is getting reported to the NCIS.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 10:10:54 PM CST

    You're joking right Xi?

    by hobocode

    Tattoos? That's your defense? Pssst. Not all white supremacists have tattoos saying they're white supremacists. And this story was from 2006. But even if you;re right I can safely say that a good portion of the U.S. Armed Forces are disturbed or criminally oriented, if not outright sociopaths. Present company excluded of course.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 11:37:17 PM CST

    Node

    by xiphos_2

    here's a word your not familiar with, proof. Prove what you said. I'll save you time, what you said up there is an opinion, it's something you think but can't prove.Here's a suggestion, stop reading the Huffington post and DailyKAOS. Stop viewing everything through party polemics and politics. You might actually become a happy person for once. Though I doubt that very much.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 11:44:48 PM CST

    Never mind

    by xiphos_2

    Forget I asked. I aplogize. I broke my own rule about interacting with you.

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  • Jan 06, 2009 11:59:50 PM CST

    Xiphos 49 Node 0

    by terrymalloy

  • Jan 07, 2009 12:02:43 AM CST

    Greetings all

    by terrymalloy

    Hope everyone had a wonderful holiday and New Year

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  • Jan 07, 2009 12:09:11 AM CST

    Man the Ass of Jesse James

    by series7

    Was a damn good movie. My fav of 07.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 12:53:59 AM CST

    the Ass of Jesse James....

    by the milf lover

    sounds like gay porn...

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  • Jan 07, 2009 1:00:07 AM CST

    the ass of Jesse James....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...tastes like my penis.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 1:52:18 AM CST

    So

    by series7

    Ping Pong Playa is to Ping Pong as The Hammer is to Rocky Balboa.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 3:32:33 AM CST

    We're losing to a Watchmen thread?

    by franklin t marmoset

    This aggression will not stand!

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  • Jan 07, 2009 3:33:33 AM CST

    Good morning to all, by the way

    by franklin t marmoset

    Not that anyone's here yet.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 3:34:55 AM CST

    A Salute To Gilmore Girls

    by franklin t marmoset

    Dear Amy Sherman-Palladino (creator of Gilmore Girls)Gilmore Girls is not a show I ever imagined I would like. I am a man in my mid-thirties and not, despite scurrilous rumours to the contrary, gay. I like television shows for men - The Sopranos, Dexter, The Wire, The Shield, Deadwood - shows where people get shot in the face or blown up with a hand grenade or chopped into chunks and dumped off the coast of Miami. None of those things ever happened on Gilmore Girls, and yet I fell in love with it anyway.Gilmore Girls won me over, Amy Sherman-Palladino, with its warmth, with its charm, with its light and playful tone, and with its Dorothy Parker-inflected wit (minus the suicidal ideation). You may also be interested to know, it comes in very handy when you are bored and want to wind-up the Ain't Cool News crowd. But most of all, Gilmore Girls won me over with its wonderful cast of characters. Lorelai, Rory, Emily, Richard, Luke, Christopher, Sookie, Michel, Lane, Zack, Paris, Taylor, Kirk, and even the guy out of Skid Row. I will miss them all.Sure, I have a few complaints. Turning Lorelai into such an unreasonable cunt during late season six/early season seven was a mistake, the town troubador was unbearably twee, and I think the series finale would have been more powerful had you stuck around to write and direct it yourself; but those those things fade into insignificance when compared to the many joyful hours I have spent in the delightful town of Stars Hollow.In conclusion, I would like to thank you, Amy Sherman-Palladino, for bringing the Gilmore Girls into my life. You may have made me a little bit gay, but I will never hold that against you.Yours sincerelyFranklin Thomas MarmosetBristol, England(dictated but not read)

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  • Jan 07, 2009 3:37:57 AM CST

    HA!

    by franklin t marmoset

    A Gilmore Girls post put us back over the top!In your face, Japanese Watchmen trailer! Defeated by two charming small-town women!Now begins the long, slow process of growing my testicles back.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 3:39:49 AM CST

    Who wants to talk about Die Hard?

    by franklin t marmoset

    Predator?Tombstone?The Dirty Dozen?Anything else that is particularly testicular?

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  • Jan 07, 2009 3:41:44 AM CST

    January 7th

    by franklin t marmoset

    My new year's resolution (to not spend the mornings rambling to myself on the Ain't It Cool News) lasted until January 7th.In your face, Jarv! That's one day longer than yours lasted.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 3:46:32 AM CST

    Damn, those Watchmen fuckers are catching up

    by franklin t marmoset

    I don't know that I can do this on my own.Not... enough... to... talk... about.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 3:47:04 AM CST

    Good morning Frank

    by lost jarv

    Ya big poof.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 3:48:41 AM CST

    Nope, not at all

    by lost jarv

    you see, my new insanely optimistic self truly believed that I could beat Lovefilm's stupidly small minded recommendation software. That is true blind optimism. And I still support a shite football team, think England will win the Ashes, and England will also win the 6 Nations. How's that for optimism?

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  • Jan 07, 2009 3:50:53 AM CST

    anyhoo

    by lost jarv

    there are only 2 things that could make me watch the gilmore girls finale: 1)Acid for blood Alien killing machines destroy the town. 2)Mass lesbian orgy with banana yoghurt.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 3:50:59 AM CST

    I shot myself in the foot!

    by franklin t marmoset

    By going into the Watchmen thread and posting that anyone who likes Watchmen is gay, I have unwittingly undone myself!

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  • Jan 07, 2009 3:52:47 AM CST

    Hey, Jarv is here

    by franklin t marmoset

    Morning, Jarv.Good luck with the renewed optimism and whatnot.Let's see... How do you feel about... Shia LaBouf? Are you optimistic about all the fine films his is going to be making in the future?

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  • Jan 07, 2009 3:55:46 AM CST

    Now that I've read watchmen I can go and bait

    by lost jarv

    them with authority of knowing what I'm talking about.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 3:57:25 AM CST

    Yes. He isn't that bad

    by lost jarv

    no worse than lots of "hot" actors. Although Transformers did suck something fierce, it wasn't his fault.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 3:58:32 AM CST

    Fuck Watchmen

    by lost jarv

    over-fucking-rated doesn't begin to get near to my feelings on it.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 4:00:19 AM CST

    Not bad, Jarv

    by franklin t marmoset

    Not bad at all.Personally, I think he is a company man, and therefore I do not like him. He is the new Tom Hanks.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 4:01:57 AM CST

    I went in a different direction

    by franklin t marmoset

    I prefer to bait without having a clue what I'm going on about.A generalised homophobic slur seemed like a solid choice to me.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 4:04:32 AM CST

    Shia

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    He was well cast in Transformers and that Rear Window rip-off, as a geek. He was completely miscast in the biggest piece of shit of 2008. No, not Indy 4 (although he was miscast). Eagle Eye. Anyone else seen it? So fucking shit it's unbelievable. I went in with an almost open mind, and i sat there HATING it. Seriously. Shit.Morning rant - Complete!

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  • Jan 07, 2009 4:10:44 AM CST

    Ha! Just read your Watchgay comment Frankie

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Very amusing, particularly the random Lost comment but I doubt you'll get any takers. You didn't mention the fucking squid! It's all about the squid. People cannot get over the lack of squidy goodness. I haven't finished the comics yet so I haev no idea WTF the squid is.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 4:11:17 AM CST

    Refuse to watch it

    by lost jarv

    Didn't like Disturbia, hated Transformers, thought he was a cunt in constantine and I, Robot. Hated him in Indy. In fact, Frank is possibly right. I don't like him.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 4:13:04 AM CST

    Squid= dumb to the point of retarded

    by lost jarv

    Ozymandias is a cunt. It's alright, but I don't think I could be arsed to wade through it again.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 4:13:56 AM CST

    Frankie

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    "You may have made me a little bit gay, but I will never hold that against you."Of course you won't. She's a chick. If she had bollocks you'd be all over it!

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  • Jan 07, 2009 4:15:03 AM CST

    Thanks for the tip, Droid

    by franklin t marmoset

    I'm off over there to make up some sort of squid-related insult, possibly combining it with the homophobia.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 4:17:14 AM CST

    Mr Zeddmore is lurking in the Watchmen thread

    by lost jarv

    what a shame. What's he doing that for?

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  • Jan 07, 2009 4:18:57 AM CST

    ha!

    by lost jarv

    That open letter is the faggiest, gayest thing I've ever seen. It couldn't be any more gay if it was painted pink, drinking daquiri's and dancing to madonna.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 4:25:43 AM CST

    Funny you should say that...

    by franklin t marmoset

    I was painted pink, drinking daquiri's and dancing to madonna when I wrote it!

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  • Jan 07, 2009 4:28:33 AM CST

    I suck at starting shit on the internets

    by franklin t marmoset

    I can't help taking the piss. It's just not in me to get all wound up and angry over films.I tried, but I went too far with the Zach Galligan bit, although that did make me laugh.This also reminds me of a Seinfeld episode. The one where Jerry tries to get angry but everyone just laughs at him.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 4:29:40 AM CST

    I bet you also like SATC

    by lost jarv

    Nob jockey. Christ I'm bored this morning. When's the new Twitch due?

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  • Jan 07, 2009 4:32:43 AM CST

    Nice try, Frankie

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    But Zedd just keeps shooting you down by asking you sensible questions. He's not playing fair.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 4:44:56 AM CST

    yes, that's just not cricket

    by lost jarv

    talking about which, Droid, have you seen the fucking mess England are making at the moment? Politics be damned.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 4:48:38 AM CST

    What's SATC, Jarv?

    by franklin t marmoset

    I don't know all these internet slangamajigs.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 4:53:27 AM CST

    Sex. And. The. CIty

    by lost jarv

    a mystifyingly popular programme featuring four gay men disguised as the most horrendous harridans ever put on screen. One of them had a face that looks like a foot, and another is sort of a geek heroine.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 4:59:03 AM CST

    Cheers, Jarv

    by franklin t marmoset

    Nope, never seen it. I bought a box set of it last year, but it was a Christmas gift for my sister (honest).Isn't it about a bunch of self-absorbed sluts? That doesn't appeal to me at all.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 5:04:30 AM CST

    England Cricket

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    "In-fighting" between the coach and the captain. Thats the problem when you make a Saffa (I was also going to call him an arrogant cunt, but it was redundant) the captain. Now he's "stepped down". Seriously, they need to get some fucking stability. There team is constantly changing. Their Captain is constantly changing.The Aussies just got their ass handed to them by the fucking Saffas as well. Managed to pull off a win in the 3rd test when the series was already lost. The era of Aussie domination has come to an end. We will still be one of the better teams, but not almost unbeatable anymore. Shit! I enjoyed having unquestionable gloating powers!

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  • Jan 07, 2009 5:10:13 AM CST

    Where are all the angry basement-dwellers?

    by franklin t marmoset

    I was sort of hoping someone would get all indignant and point out that Zach Galligan was the guy out of Gremlins and not the director of Watchmen, but it's not happened so far.What a disappointment.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 5:20:51 AM CST

    Gremlins

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Over the break I watched Gremlins 1 & 2. I haven't seen them for probably 15 years. I forgot how much of a comedy the first one was. I actually enjoyed 2 more. It just revels in it's absurdity. The cross dressing gremlin and the talking gremlin in particular.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 5:25:10 AM CST

    Gremlins is great

    by franklin t marmoset

    I love that film.The second one lacks a bit in the story department, but makes up for it with all the Gremlins chaos. Nothing wrong with a bit of Gremlins chaos.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 5:26:54 AM CST

    I wonder what Gizmo thought about the new Rambo

    by franklin t marmoset

    The one thing missing from Gremlins 2 is a scene where Gizmo turns a Gremlin into a bloody pile of goo with a fucking huge gun.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 5:38:00 AM CST

    Good morning all..

    by jonah echo

    Frankie, your obsession with Gilmore Girls is unsettling, but refreshing at the same time. I think.

    Jarv, hows it going? So you finally read Watchmen. You liked it, or didnt like it? I still can't quite tell.

    Oh, and did everyone see that a Mighty Joe Young thread from 97 is third on the list today? Someone headed for a banning decided to resurrect one of the old threads again.

    O.k. Saw two movies last night. One was Spiral, directed by the Hatchet(what a POS) guys and I actually found it to be quite good. It's more of an understated, lonely psycho guy movie.

    The second was Passengers with Anne Hathaway and that Nite Owl guy. What a piece. While I shouldn't be surprised that studios keep greenlighting the same lame twist movie over and over again, I can't help but stil be almost personally offended when you see it done as obvious and shabby as this. A therapist is instructed to meet with all the survivors of a plane crash, and they all start noticing strange things, because nothing has been right since the crash. Care to take a stab at the ending?

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  • Jan 07, 2009 5:51:49 AM CST

    It's got Christopher Lee as well

    by lost jarv

    Nothing bad can be said about that.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 5:53:56 AM CST

    oooooh can I

    by lost jarv

    It was all a dream? No, shit, that's wrong. They're all actually triffids.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 5:56:23 AM CST

    That twist so obvious, Jonah...

    by franklin t marmoset

    It turns out, Abraham Lincoln is actually an ape!Come on, who wouldn't see that coming?

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  • Jan 07, 2009 5:56:53 AM CST

    Watchmen

    by lost jarv

    was OK. Quite enjoyed it, but wouldn't go back to it.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 5:57:06 AM CST

    P.S. When you say refreshing...

    by franklin t marmoset

    ...do you really mean gay?

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  • Jan 07, 2009 5:58:16 AM CST

    hang on, hang on.

    by lost jarv

    She's really a man. That's it.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 5:58:51 AM CST

    refreshkng= queer as 5 legged sheep.

    by lost jarv

    And you know it. Poof.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 6:03:03 AM CST

    Watched serenity for the first time

    by lost jarv

    the other day. Was Ok. Not world shattering, by any stretch and they should have all died.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 6:05:36 AM CST

    Yes, Serenity is just OK

    by franklin t marmoset

    It's better if you've seen (and liked) Firefly and can appreciate it as an ending to the series, but it doesn't quite have the stature to work as a stand-alone film.I like Joss Whedon, but I reckon he's better off sticking with the telly.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 6:06:37 AM CST

    actually the real ending is..

    by jonah echo

    halfway through the movie they all realize they are a ragtag team made up of "up and coming" second rate stars (Hathaway, Wilson) and talented supporting actors (Andre Brauer, David Morse) starring in a clearly pathetic, shoddy script with mediocre direction, and they all signed on to this to get in one more paycheck before a potential writer's strike. However, it turned out to be so lame, it tramutized them into thinking the whole thing was actually happening. Midway through, Patrick Wilson's horrible acting was so distracting it took David Morse out of the whole thing and he realized real humans aren't so hammy, and that he was in a movie.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 6:09:28 AM CST

    TWITCH

    by mr. zeddemore

    YES, AWESOME, FORGOT IT EXISTED. The Spirit is a god-awful travesty of a film.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 6:10:30 AM CST

    http://tinyurl.com/842vbo

    by mr. zeddemore

    My board. I'm ranting against bad comic-book movies and bad comic-books in general.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 6:10:45 AM CST

    hey zedd..

    by jonah echo

    how was your holiday? Started wondering where you got off to. Also, has anyone seen Fred recently? I'm sure twenty seconds after I post this he will show up. Either way, I miss Fred. But not in a "refreshing" way.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 6:14:37 AM CST

    Jonah

    by mr. zeddemore

    It was good, sir. I didn't realise/remember/was sober enough to know there was a Twitch on X-Mas eve, so I kept going back to the old one and seeing it hadn't been updated. TDK is fucking awesome second time round. Plot-holes aside, just fucking excellent. Not as good as BB, but still a damn fine film.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 6:15:15 AM CST

    Mavra

    by mr. zeddemore

    I posted a lengthy review of The Spirit. In short, holy shit was that terrible.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 6:44:01 AM CST

    Apropos of nothing...

    by franklin t marmoset

    There are very thin sheets of ice on the river outside, so thin you can hardly see them, and it's quite good fun watching the ducks and swans swimming along and then getting these confused looks on their faces as they bump into the ice, then try to climb up onto the ice, only to have it break apart beneath them and dump them back into the water again.I just thought I'd pass that on.Jesus, I am severely bored today. Can't be assed with this work business.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 6:48:36 AM CST

    Franklin - read this

    by mr. zeddemore

    http://tinyurl.com/9kafec -- I do a five page rant on an old Captain America issue. I start losing my mind halfway through.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 7:08:01 AM CST

    anyone here gonna take a chance on Unborn?

    by jonah echo

    I fear I'll be seeing it, just because it's one of the few horror films coming out that has anything that would remotely appeal to me. In this case, swivel head dog with human mask and Gary Oldman.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 7:11:15 AM CST

    Gary OLDMAN

    by mr. zeddemore

  • Jan 07, 2009 7:19:07 AM CST

    TDK

    by lost jarv

    also enjoyed it second time round. It's just good.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 7:21:42 AM CST

    "swivel head dog with human mask"

    by lost jarv

  • Jan 07, 2009 7:35:10 AM CST

    Also apropros of nothing

    by lost jarv

    I've been watching Foxtons out of my office window all day and not seen any cunt go in or out. I honestly believe this recession is media driven. Now bear with me on this one- I was watching BBC News this morning and the CEO of M&S was on. The story, obviously, is that M&S sold 7% less like for like this christmas than last one. However, they actually made more money. The prick journalist just kept badgering the guy to say Private Frasier stylee "WE'RE DOOOOOOOOMED" but he kept reasonably pointing out that far away from the world ending, they'd actually made more money. If the media would stop reporting that it's an apocalypse (and to be honest, it's made fuck all difference to my life), then I'm sure the world would get back to normal sharpish. But as they keep telling us we're doomed, and most people are moronic sheep, everyone is just staying in and putting money under a mattress.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 7:41:56 AM CST

    Fuck's sake

    by lost jarv

    we're getting absolutely pwnd by that Watchmen thread.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 7:43:53 AM CST

    SIn City>300

    by lost jarv

    just worth saying. I like Sin City.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 7:45:25 AM CST

    I also quite like 300

    by lost jarv

    in a stupid sort of way. Play the drinking game where everyone has to drink every time someone says "Sparta". It's life threatening.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 7:48:21 AM CST

    hmmm

    by lost jarv

    All by myself again. I'm having a very traumatic day.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 7:51:36 AM CST

    I need a new fucking job

    by lost jarv

    I've just discovered that they're clipping my holidays. Feckers.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 7:55:57 AM CST

    For one brief, shining moment...

    by franklin t marmoset

    ...I had us ahead of the Watchmen thread this morning, but people do love to talk about that film.It didn't help that I went over and added a bunch of posts myself in a pathetic attempt at starting a row, but the only person who responded was Mr Z and he was far too reasonable to argue with me.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 8:00:50 AM CST

    Yes, I pulled us ahead briefly

    by lost jarv

    but we're now about 60 behind.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 8:01:27 AM CST

    I just read your rant, Mr Z

    by franklin t marmoset

    I don't know too much about comics, but that was pretty funny. I especially liked that you took the time to mention the adverts. That was a nice touch.Not being funny or anything, but don't you have work to be getting on with? Bloody student slackers.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 8:01:57 AM CST

    Fuck's sake

    by lost jarv

    I'm even bored with trolling them. I used to put up a list of all the absurdities in that movie, but I can't be arsed any more.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 8:03:02 AM CST

    soapdodging student cunts.

    by lost jarv

    Pah. Get a job. Like me and Frank. You can tit around on here all day and still pretend to be a productive member of society

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  • Jan 07, 2009 8:08:40 AM CST

    Lunchtime treats

    by franklin t marmoset

    I have splashed out on some more Seinfeld and season 4 of The Wire, which should tide me over for a few weeks. I'm already bored of Big Brother, so I've dumped that.On the good news front, The Daily Show was back last night, so at least there's one decent thing on the telly for me to watch. That Jon Stewart is a funny, funny man.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 8:11:32 AM CST

    Got absolutely arseholed last night

    by lost jarv

    so didn't watch anything. And I meant to watch Dead Set again

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  • Jan 07, 2009 8:29:47 AM CST

    Good for you, Jarv

    by franklin t marmoset

    It's a lot time since I went on a week night drunkening.Plus, some of us went to the gym and then home to watch the finale of you know what.I wasn't that fussed about Dead Set. Not bad, but not too memorable, either. It was basically 28 Big Brothers Later. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 8:30:54 AM CST

    Lot time?

    by franklin t marmoset

    Fuck's sake.That's 'long time'.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 8:33:35 AM CST

    Où les Américains sont?

    by franklin t marmoset

    Shouldn't they be awake by now?Lazy fuckers.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 8:34:10 AM CST

    MRs. Jarv turned on Shit Brother

    by lost jarv

    this morning. I think I saw Coolio but it may have been a drunken hallucination.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 8:40:13 AM CST

    No, that really was Coolio

    by franklin t marmoset

    He was funny at first, but became unbearable pretty quickly.The best thing that guy ever did was his bizarre little cameo in Leprechaun In Da Hood, when he wondered into the church, everyone said, "Hey, it's Coolio!" and then he wondered off again.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 8:48:27 AM CST

    Easily the best thing he ever did.

    by lost jarv

    He's a clownshoe.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 8:50:46 AM CST

    what the fuck is Coolio doing on shit brother

    by lost jarv

    let alone one of the world's greatest living little people?

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:03:37 AM CST

    Coolio, to use teh AICN vernacular, gotta eat

    by franklin t marmoset

    And Verne Troyer seems like a pretty nice guy, actually. I hope he wins it.Also, for fuck's sake, Michelle Heaton out of Liberty X, either get your tits out or fuck off. What the hell else are you good for?

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:03:48 AM CST

    where are all the Yanks?

    by lost jarv

    this is weird

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:04:26 AM CST

    Franklin

    by mr. zeddemore

    I have an essay I'm slowly doing on John Carpenter, but aside from that am just lounging. And yep, those are real adverts. I should upload them.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:08:17 AM CST

    Why do you put yourself through this shit?

    by lost jarv

    seriously? The only good thing about it is that it has taken Everybody Loves Raymond's place in the morning, so Mrs. Jarv no longer annoys me with that unfunny shit when I'm drinking coffee before work. I'm free to watch Sky Sports News.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:10:28 AM CST

    And The Spirit

    by mr. zeddemore

    Was a horrible way to start 2009. Luckily, I watched the old X-Men cartoon on VHS to cleanse myself. That is some good fricking storytelling - it may be goofy, but seeing Rogue and Gambit kicking ass is awesome. And this line: Disconcerting, yet provocative from Beast was just geek-tastic.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:12:06 AM CST

    Everybody Loves Raymond?

    by mr. zeddemore

    I hate that show. For a test, I watched four eps in a row once and didn't laugh once. Even Friends, a horrible show, made me laugh once every four eps.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:13:10 AM CST

    I really want to see The Spirit

    by lost jarv

    every bad review makes me want to watch it more. And nekkid Mendes hardly hurts.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:15:00 AM CST

    It's fucking abombinably bad

    by lost jarv

    What the fuck is funny about it? And if I was him, I'd tell his emotionally retarded brother to get a fucking grip.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:15:28 AM CST

    Lost Jarv#

    by mr. zeddemore

    Yeah, I thought the same. Just... no. Youtube Mendez. You'll save yourself lots of pain.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:15:46 AM CST

    I think Pillows fancies

    by lost jarv

    Patricia Heaton though. I can't be sure. Ray Romano must be the least funny man alive.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:16:38 AM CST

    I was bored, Jarv

    by franklin t marmoset

    There was fuck all on the telly, so I thought I'd give Big Brother a go.If it's any consolation, I've already stopped watching it. It manages to be both boring and annoying, which is my least favourite combination of elements.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:18:24 AM CST

    Mrs. Jarv wants to see it

    by lost jarv

    so I may be doomed.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:19:50 AM CST

    I've never seen Everybody Loves Raymond

    by franklin t marmoset

    But I do like Friends. It's horribly sappy at times, but it just makes laugh, which always scores points with me. Funny = Good.Plus, it has Jennifer Aniston, and I could happily sit and watch her reading a paper for half an hour and still be entertained.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:19:51 AM CST

    Lost Jarv

    by mr. zeddemore

    If I was him, I think I'd drink myself stupid.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:20:00 AM CST

    I wish they'd take it off the air permanently

    by lost jarv

    it's just fucking vile exploitation- the 21st Century equivalent of popping to the asylum to laugh at loonies. Fucking horrible.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:21:12 AM CST

    From my The Spirit rant

    by mr. zeddemore

    This film is bad.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:22:10 AM CST

    Scrubs S6

    by mr. zeddemore

    Man, that was fucking awful. Save for the musical episode, I wanted to yell at Zach Braff until he stopped acting smug in every single scene.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:23:53 AM CST

    Wouldn't take long.

    by lost jarv

    I'm not convinced he's that bright and I just want to punch his stupid face.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:26:00 AM CST

    Lost Jarv

    by mr. zeddemore

    On that note, I rewatched EFNY... and Ernest B always bugs the shit out of me. He's so tonally off with everything else that's going on, it's like he's in an awful sitcom and everyone else is in this really good film. They missed out on Snake blowing his head off.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:26:06 AM CST

    Fucking hate Zach Braff

    by lost jarv

    I used to like Scrubs. Then it started to suck. Then he made Orange County and The Last Kiss and now I want to hurt him.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:31:00 AM CST

    Watchmen

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Ya know....that trailer makes the movie look 10 times better in my opinion. It looks like a much more interesting film now and not just a Mystery Men wannabe.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:32:19 AM CST

    Nah, I just can't hate Cabbie

    by lost jarv

    He's alright- and some much needed levity.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:32:58 AM CST

    Comic-Books 09

    by mr. zeddemore

    I'm planning to do ranty reviews for all of them this year. Wolverine will give me material for a year, I reckon.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:33:46 AM CST

    Orange County?

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Was he the guy that looked like Collin Hanks?

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:38:43 AM CST

    It's true Borgnine doesn't quite fit in EFNY

    by franklin t marmoset

    But I never really minded that. Like Jarv said, I always thought he was there to add a bit of humour to the film.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:39:57 AM CST

    I think maybe he means Garden State

    by franklin t marmoset

    Not sure, though. I don't remember Orange County too well.Is that the one with Jack Black?

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:40:54 AM CST

    Whoops

    by lost jarv

    shit meant Garden State. It's still navel gazing bollocks of the most boring type.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:41:25 AM CST

    Cabbie

    by mr. zeddemore

    I get he was there to add levity, I just think the performance doesn't work with the film. If he was in Big Trouble In Little China, it'd still be annoying but work with how goofy that film was.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:42:05 AM CST

    He's still a cockend with a face you

    by lost jarv

    could never tire of punching. I don't know how they can put up with him in Scrubs. He's a drippy little whore.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:42:13 AM CST

    Orange County

    by mr. zeddemore

    Isn't that written by Mike 'I forgot to add any jokes' White?

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:43:35 AM CST

    I was rewatching Lost 402 on Sky

    by mr. zeddemore

    Well, I stumbled across it... and I kept yelling at the TV for Elizabeth Mitchell to emote. It wasn't good for my blood pressure, but her botox is potent stuff.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:43:58 AM CST

    not Cabbie

    by lost jarv

    Braff. He was a bit OTT, but I don't mind it. Which is strange, because I usually hate that shit.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:46:57 AM CST

    I like Orange County, Garden State, and Zach Braff....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ....he's good on Scrubs and he was good as the voice of Chicken Little. He is a bizarre person, but what the fuck do I want another faggy Brad Pitt lookalike for? I'd rather go with that alien with a massive schnoz. Moore funny to look at.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:48:57 AM CST

    Moore funny....hehehe....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...thats like Alan Moore humor. Not funny at all. Just weird things crackheads laugh at, like babies crying.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:49:09 AM CST

    Garden State is a POS.

    by hobocode

    Can't stand that overrated garbage.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:49:23 AM CST

    Botox is ruining actresses

    by franklin t marmoset

    The same thing is happening with Nicole Kidman. She used to be pretty good, but her face hardly moves anymore.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:51:50 AM CST

    It's also ruining actors

    by mr. zeddemore

    If we can call what John Barrowman does acting.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:53:01 AM CST

    Garden State blows big chuncks

    by just pillow talk

    A really bad movie.So I watched Hancock last night. I wouldn't call it one of the worse movies I've seen, but it really wasn't that good. I suppose the concept of a fucked up superhero could have been cool, but they didn't do shit with it. Work has its boot shoved so far up my ass right now. Fuck you work!

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:54:53 AM CST

    why do people hate Garden State?

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Is it just Braff hate? I don't get whats to hate. Its a sweet little movie.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:55:55 AM CST

    See, I liked Hancock

    by mr. zeddemore

    All of it. Sure the fucked up superhero stuff could've been a film unto itself (sort of like Big Trouble... where a feckless hero saves the day through luck), but to me it felt like an obvious Act One. That's the problem he has to solve. Basic screenwriting. And the effects were awesome - a real 'fuck you' to how shit X-Men III was.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:56:02 AM CST

    Zeddemore.

    by hobocode

    Mitchell is a great actress. I doubt it's botox. Juliet is a stoic and saracastic character to begin with.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:57:31 AM CST

    Danny

    by mr. zeddemore

    I don't hate it, I just think it's self-indulgent. Portman is adorable in it, but it feels like a collection of quirks rather than a flick. It's better than The Last Kiss though - I love the 'feel bad for him' scene with Coldplay playing at the end just for the incredible smugness of it.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:57:50 AM CST

    I used to like him

    by lost jarv

    but no more.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:57:57 AM CST

    I have no interest in ever sitting through a Will Smith movie...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ....post 2003. No fucking interest whatsoever. Life is far too short.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:58:22 AM CST

    HoboCode

    by mr. zeddemore

    See, I'd buy that in S3. But in 402 she tries to smile. She does. But can't. You say stoic, I say she was physically incapable of it.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:59:41 AM CST

    I think I'm with Danny on this one

    by franklin t marmoset

    I can't claim to be a huge fan of Garden State, but I thought it was a perfectly decent little film.And I don't get why Braff inspires so much bile. He seems pretty inoffensive to me.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:01:03 AM CST

    can a first feature from a director....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...really be self indulgent? Wouldn't you think they are still trying to find their voice and just doing what they know and like?

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:01:15 AM CST

    X3 is citizen Kane compared to Superman Returns

    by lost jarv

    but that summer is still the worst on record for movies. And Garden State is irritating faux-angsty crap that ends with a fucking clodplay (Copywright F.T.Marmoset).

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:02:30 AM CST

    of course he can

    by lost jarv

    You can be self indulgent at any time. Check out The Directors cut of Donnie Darko for example.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:03:00 AM CST

    yeah I haven't seen Garden State in a few years....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ....but its just a small romantic comedy with some cool photography and good music. Its odd for so many to get all "OH FUCK EVERYTHING THAT FILM STANDS FOR!!" over it. Its like screaming and yelling about how much When Harry Met Sally blows. Franklin, most people on here are terrified of admitting to enjoying a film with a shred of romance.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:03:36 AM CST

    Danny - re: Garden S

    by mr. zeddemore

    Possibly - I just think it could've done better to be less showy.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:04:01 AM CST

    Jarv

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Yeah-- that self indulgence came after massive hype, acclaim, and blowjobs from Darko's initial release.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:04:17 AM CST

    John Barrowman

    by lost jarv

    Christ I fucking hate that gurning twat. I wish he'd fuck off back across the pond.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:04:29 AM CST

    Hey, the Americans have arrived

    by franklin t marmoset

    About fucking time, shirkers!

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:05:07 AM CST

    Scared of romance?

    by mr. zeddemore

    Love Actually, Almost Famous and When Harry Met Sally rule. I just think Garden State could've benefitted from being less showy and having fewer 'you will be moved' mannerisms for each character.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:05:51 AM CST

    what do you mean less showy?

    by dannyglovers_dickblood


    Like just standard photography like every other Kate Hudson romantic comedy? You think it would have been better if it were just locked down 2 shots? I don't get it.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:05:51 AM CST

    Question

    by mr. zeddemore

    Can you gurn if you're unable to move your facial muscles?

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:06:52 AM CST

    not you Winston....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...you're a softy. I know that.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:08:46 AM CST

    Garden State definitely has its self-conscious moments

    by franklin t marmoset

    But I just put that down to Braff being young and inexperienced.I don't understand what's to hate about it, and it's one of the few films where I can stand Natalie Portman.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:09:01 AM CST

    Danny

    by mr. zeddemore

    I don't mean standard photography, but how many scenes in Garden State had slow-motion to show his alienation? Braff is capable of showing a hint of that, so why does the camerawork keep emphasising sometrhing he's already doing?

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:09:32 AM CST

    Clodplay are not good music

    by lost jarv

    no sir. Not now. Not ever. I like when Harry Met Sally, and to be fair to Scrubs, it gave me a great laugh with a quote from WHMS

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:10:49 AM CST

    Again

    by mr. zeddemore

    Garden State is better than 80% of the like-minded films released, but 80% of the related films released are shit. Garden State is a decent film, it's just not the best out there. Want a good film? Wristcutters: A Love Story is excellent.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:10:56 AM CST

    I also like Almost Famous

    by lost jarv

    I feel I'm being unfairly maligned.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:11:35 AM CST

    oh fuck Coldplay....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...I despise those cunts. Everything else on the Garden State soundtrack is good. Not them.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:11:50 AM CST

    I love Almost Famous

    by franklin t marmoset

    It's getting to the point where I'm starting to admire Kate Hudson for her preternaturally stubborn desire to make one really fucking good film and then follow it up with shit after shit after shit.That's quite a record.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:11:52 AM CST

    I can never hate Scrubs entirely

    by mr. zeddemore

    Because up to S5, Sarah Chalke is really hot in an eccentric way... and post S5 she's really hot in a put together way.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:12:49 AM CST

    That's a good point re: Gurning

    by lost jarv

    and yet, somehow, he still manages it. Torchwood= worst thing on television, and that's all down to how much RTD wants to fuck Barrowman. Did you see the one with the Alien fuckmonster in it? sheesh. It's like a 13 year old masturbation and ritalin addicted teen wrote it.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:12:54 AM CST

    is Wrist Cutters good?

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I saw the trailer. It looked really shitty and I don't like that troll looking Almost Famous guy. I get what you're saying about Garden now..... I gotta watch it again. Its been years.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:12:58 AM CST

    Almost Famous

    by mr. zeddemore

    Easily my favourite film about writing. It nails the highs... and has no close-ups of him typing on a fucking typewriter to show that he's writing.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:13:30 AM CST

    I don't remember Clodplay being in Garden State

    by franklin t marmoset

    You'd think I would, because Clodplay always brings me out in a rash.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:14:13 AM CST

    Danny

    by mr. zeddemore

    Not sure if you'd like it, but man... good fucking film. Really trippy and surreal, but oddly touching - despite the fact that every character is rather selfish and arrogant up to the final stretch.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:15:20 AM CST

    LOL Frank

    by lost jarv

    I think that about her. Did you see that 10 ways to get dumped shit. YUCK. And McConaghy is in it. TWAT.This is not doing my sunny outlook any good.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:15:59 AM CST

    Jarv

    by mr. zeddemore

    Some of Torchwood is good, but they need to hire better actors.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:16:39 AM CST

    Jarv

    by mr. zeddemore

    Wolverine will be the funniest comedy of the year. Does that cheer you up?

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:18:30 AM CST

    Maybe I'm just getting confused

    by lost jarv

    I've only seen it once and that was years ago. I shall check on allmusic.com

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:21:39 AM CST

    None of Torchwood is good.

    by lost jarv

    And it will remain horrid until they learn that adult sci-fi =/= every man woman and animal wanting to fill any fucking orifice available (Animal, vegetable or mineral). No siree, me no likee.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:21:49 AM CST

    Hudson & McConaughey: The Perfect Couple

    by franklin t marmoset

    They both have one good film under their belts (her, Almost Famous; him, Dazed & Confused), and they have both subsequently dedicated their lives to doing shit in exchange for gargantuan piles of cash.You would think Kurt Russel would have something to say about Hudson's terrible choices.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:22:34 AM CST

    Yup. Clodplay is indeed on The Garden State

    by lost jarv

    phew. Thought I was going mad there.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:23:52 AM CST

    He probably uses her money to pay for booze and hookers

    by lost jarv

    why not? she's his pension plan.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:24:11 AM CST

    Garden State was a comedy?

    by just pillow talk

  • Jan 07, 2009 10:25:19 AM CST

    How dare I spell Kurt Russell's name incorrectly!

    by franklin t marmoset

    For shame, me.For shame.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:26:10 AM CST

    You what?

    by lost jarv

    No it wasn't. It was melodrama. If it was meant to be a comedy then that's an epic fail. Where would you find out?

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:26:21 AM CST

    Kate Hudson had work done on her face.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood


    I just saw the trailer for her latest masterpiece with Anne Hathaway. She looks much different. There is something up with her face. Based on careful analysis, I would say she had some sort of an eye lift. The shape of her eyes seems to have changed.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:26:33 AM CST

    I must have repressed the Clodplay

    by franklin t marmoset

    Traumatic memories and whatnot.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:26:52 AM CST

    Kurt

    by mr. zeddemore

    Needs another John Carpenter flick. Hell, just have them do another Escape From such and such.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:28:17 AM CST

    Rewatched Three Men And A Baby

    by mr. zeddemore

    Danson and Selleck should be ashamed of themselves. Guttenberg never knew any better, so he's got no reason to be ashamed.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:28:27 AM CST

    "Based on careful analysis..."

    by franklin t marmoset

    LOL, Danny. Funniest thing I have read all day.Even now I am imagining you hunched over a poster for Bride Wars with a magnifying glass.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:30:23 AM CST

    "Rewatched Three Men And A Baby"

    by franklin t marmoset

    Second funniest thing I have read all day!

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:30:58 AM CST

    Garden State = DRAMEDY

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jan 07, 2009 10:31:04 AM CST

    It was on Sky

    by mr. zeddemore

    I'm aiming to watch 365 - 500 films this year, quality doesn't come into it.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:32:49 AM CST

    I liked The Wedding Planner....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...that was a pretty good McConahaaaay role.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:34:37 AM CST

    and funniest Mconahay line of his career....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    From A TIME TO KILL: "Now imagine she's whiiiiiiite."

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:34:56 AM CST

    McConahaaaay - Tropic Thunder

    by mr. zeddemore

    He was good there. Just get someone good to write him a surfing role.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:35:09 AM CST

    3 Men and a Twat is a crime against celluloid

    by lost jarv

    the only thing you can say about it, is that it is marginally better than 3 men and a little twat: Closet poofs go to England.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:35:31 AM CST

    ok, the line is not funny. The delivery is fucking hilarious!

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jan 07, 2009 10:36:58 AM CST

    ugh...Mrs. Pillow likes the Wedding Planner

    by just pillow talk

    I can't watch anything with Jennifer Lopez in it. I guess it was better than all of McConaughey's other ventures into rom-com, which really isn't saying much.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:37:01 AM CST

    Three Men And A Bride

    by mr. zeddemore

    According to Steve G, they're making another one. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DICCCCCCCEEEEEEEEEE

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:37:09 AM CST

    The Wedding Planner?

    by lost jarv

    Is that that dismal J-blo shit? Fuck no. Fuck off "Jenny from the block" and make your boyfriend gas your fucking car again.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:37:50 AM CST

    Garden State

    by jonah echo

    wasn't quite a romantic comedy. It had aspects of that, but it seemed like a victim of that "uber-quirk" movement back in 2003 and 2004 where everything eccentric was equated with brilliant. I think Braff had a decent script that he overdid with too many "nifty" touches but I'm not sure all those excessive touches were in the production/filmmaking as much as the script. Like the scene with Method Man and all those people surrounding the hole in the hotel room, or the guy shooting arrows into the air, the suit of armor, etc. That's the part that felt showy. One of my favorite scenes I don't even think made the final cut of the film, but maybe I'm wrong-it's where Ian Holm is musing on why he'd want to be a superhero. It had a sweetness, a poignancy and a humor to it that didn't feel forced but real and human. GS was peppered throughout with moments like that, but the quirk killed it in my opinion.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:39:50 AM CST

    Ian Holm is musing on why he'd want to be a superhero

    by mr. zeddemore

    If they cut that scene, urgh. The moments of genuine human emotion in GS were great, underplayed and just right in camera-work.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:40:19 AM CST

    Make sure you keep us updated, Mr Z

    by franklin t marmoset

    That is a gloriously stupid ambition (and I mean that as a compliment), so please keep us updated on your quest to watch 365-500 films (quality unimportant).It's a shame we can't have a chart or something, like those barometer-looking things they use to keep track of charity donations.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:42:16 AM CST

    I liked Garden State

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    And I like Scrubs.And Almost Famous is a fucking awesome film. So is Say Anything...

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:43:21 AM CST

    I'll have a stab at that as well.

    by lost jarv

    I've already seen about 10-11 movies so it should be on.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:43:41 AM CST

    It is a stupid ambition

    by mr. zeddemore

    But I probably watched a good 280 last year, and forgot to note them down. So I can barely remember what I watched. Figured recording was a good idea. So far in 09 I've watched eight films.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:44:49 AM CST

    Jarv

    by mr. zeddemore

    Damn you.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:45:26 AM CST

    Question:

    by lost jarv

    Has J-Lo ever made anything that could be described as an unqualified "good" film? And I don't mean one where people say "It was ok, but..."

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:45:34 AM CST

    I found J-Lo incedibly likeable in that....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ....and her ass looked fucking amazing in those business skirts she wore.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:45:35 AM CST

    What's Juliet got to smile about?

    by hobocode

    She's basically been held captive on the island for four years away from her family during which she has been constantly emotionally manipulated by a murderous geek who sent her lover to his death out of jealousy. And is she even in Confirmed Dead? The only part I remember with her in that episode I think is at the end when Frank rats her out to Miles. She doesn't really have a reason to smile.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:46:59 AM CST

    Yes Lost Jarv.

    by hobocode

    Out of Sight. Pretty much a perfect movie and she is great in it.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:47:33 AM CST

    Hobo

    by mr. zeddemore

    When they find out they may be getting off The Island, she tries to smile and can't... when she's plotting with Sayid, she tries to smile but can't. This is actually not me knocking the show. It's clearly (to me) written that she smiles and shows emotion, but the actress can't play it. Her entire arc is actually pretty good, but they cast an actress I can't stand to play it.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:47:44 AM CST

    Out of Sight

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Thats a great film. Her only good film.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:47:50 AM CST

    Now I want to do it, too

    by franklin t marmoset

    But all I've seen so far this year is Cliffhanger.Mark me down for one. 364-499 (quality unimportant) to go!

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:47:58 AM CST

    I say ANACONDA is a "good" film....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ....its entertaining as fuck and looks great.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:48:41 AM CST

    Money Train

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    So bad its good! No "but..."

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:48:48 AM CST

    I had the Donor's donation to start on though

    by lost jarv

    so got a flying start. It has to be possible.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:49:38 AM CST

    Out Of Sight

    by franklin t marmoset

    It's a little odd that that film is so good and yet it has Jennifer Lopez in it.Surely that breaks some sort of unbreakable law of nature?

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:49:47 AM CST

    Gigli

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    I'm kidding.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:50:30 AM CST

    Also

    by mr. zeddemore

    I'm doing all films. First-viewings, repeat, Sky, cinema, (other means). It's it on and I watch it, it counts. At the end of 2009, I'll put my list (and reviews) into a PDF on my blog.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:50:50 AM CST

    Anaconda is a bad film

    by lost jarv

    but it's very funny. And that's down to voigt. I don't especially like Out Of Sight, but that might be because I blame it for her subsequent career. So that one will do.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:50:51 AM CST

    oh yeah...she got pounded in Money Train.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Her earlier shit was good-- Money Train, Anaconda, and Out of Sight. She got stuck in that same vat Kate Hudson and McConahay are in now though. Oh well....who fucking cares. They wanted to be famous and make money, they're doing it. Not everyone gives a shit about making acclaimed films.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:51:17 AM CST

    that movie challenge..I'll take it too..

    by jonah echo

    Here's what I've seen thus far in the New Year: Defiance, Spiral, Passengers, In the Electric Mist, Wanted, Alien Raiders, Cadillac Records, American Teen, The Changeling, Babylon A.D., Pineapple Express, The Assembly(HOD, it was awesome), and I'm planning on seeing Bolt 3-D tonight.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:51:55 AM CST

    I thought you were

    by lost jarv

    That's why I counted Alien.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:54:04 AM CST

    Let's find a classic Sky Movies film

    by mr. zeddemore

    Searching...

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:54:15 AM CST

    you've seen all those in 2009?!

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Fuck me. How the hell do you have time for this? Unbelievable!

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:55:29 AM CST

    already seen films count?

    by jonah echo

    cool, add Cloverfield and The original Star Wars trilogy to that last as well as Speed Racer and The Goonies.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:55:40 AM CST

    Fucking Martin Brest

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    WTF happened? He made two great fucking films Beverly Hills Cop then Midnight Run (one of the best), then has made Scent of a HOO-HAA, Meet Joe Zero Personality (and 3 fucking hours of zero personality to boot), and Gigli. Thats a guy who lost "it". He only had it very briefly though.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:55:59 AM CST

    Jonah is already winning!

    by franklin t marmoset

    And I only have one!!This will not stand. I'm off up Blockbusters tonight. Can I watch ten films and still get up for work tomorrow?

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:56:47 AM CST

    Danny, it's called insomnia.

    by jonah echo

    I typically have issues with sleeping, and we were on vacation this past week, so I saw a few of those at the theater, and one just the other night at a sneak screening(Defiance).

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:57:09 AM CST

    Affleck is pretty funny in Gigli...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jan 07, 2009 10:57:57 AM CST

    Here's what I've seen

    by mr. zeddemore

    TDK, EFNY, Big Trouble In Little China, The Holiday, The Spirit (God-awful), Jingle All The Way, Big, Streetfighter The Movie. Currently watching TMNT.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:58:03 AM CST

    OK fair enough

    by lost jarv

    Alien, Serenity, Porkies, Blink, Red Cliff, Assembly, Cube, School Ties, Protege, Basic Instinct. I presume you aren't counting multiple watchings?

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:58:11 AM CST

    Finally!! The truth is revealed!!

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Now I understand how you see so many films.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:59:45 AM CST

    Time's-A-Wasting

    by franklin t marmoset

    I'm off to cram a whole bunch of films into my eyes, not sleep, and still be on time for work tomorrow.Cheers, all.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:59:48 AM CST

    Here's what I've seen in 2009 so far...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    48 Hours, and Cocaine Cowboys (documentary).

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  • Jan 07, 2009 11:00:06 AM CST

    Lost Jarv#

    by mr. zeddemore

    Fraid not. I'm also not counting films so bad I turn them off halfway through, like Three Men And A Baby.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 11:00:09 AM CST

    Damn, how do you guys find the time?

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    I watched a shitload between xmas and ny, but all I've watched this year is 7 episodes of Band of Brothers. They are over an hour each so i guess that equals 3 or 4 movies.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 11:00:36 AM CST

    oh yeah

    by lost jarv

    Star Wars, Dr Dolittle 3, Beethoven's 2nd. And I wish I hadn't watched those last 2. I also suffer from insomnia- hence the appearance of Porkies and Basic Instinct both of which were on late at night. Mrs. Jarv thinks it is my job that gives me insomnia.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 11:01:08 AM CST

    Franklin

    by mr. zeddemore

    Bear in mind I'll be up to 12 films by tomorrow.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 11:01:48 AM CST

    and I was off work until Monday

    by lost jarv

    it's pretty easy to watch a lot of movies when you have the holiday time I get.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 11:02:09 AM CST

    Droid

    by mr. zeddemore

    I find the time because all I have to do currently is write an essay. Shit, I could watch six films a day, but I get bored easily.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 11:03:12 AM CST

    Fucking Dr. Doolittle 3

    by lost jarv

    curse you Guinness hangover and ITV. I was literally too ill to change the channel. It was sodding awful. Eddie Murphy wasn't even in it.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 11:03:53 AM CST

    fuck me. What's wrong with me?

    by lost jarv

    Most people would have turned that off.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 11:05:21 AM CST

    Jarv

    by mr. zeddemore

    I sat through The Spirit, so I can't chide anyone for sitting through garbage.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 11:05:36 AM CST

    No insomnia here....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    .....luckily I sleep like someone hit me in the temple with a trenching shovel, the second I hit the pillow.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 11:08:49 AM CST

    insomnia truly sucks

    by lost jarv

    It's a fucking plague. I hate it.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 11:11:49 AM CST

    Be back later.

    by mr. zeddemore

    Got to watch this film, then try and write a comic-book rant on another Captain America issue.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 11:15:10 AM CST

    off to the pub to meet Mrs. Jarv

    by lost jarv

    Incidentally, as a Latina woman, she hates J-Lo with the fire of 1000 suns.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 11:17:06 AM CST

    and gigli was TERRIBLE

    by lost jarv

    "gobble gobble". Affleck as a mafia hitman who "turns" the unconvincingly lesbian J-Lo. Yuck.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 11:19:45 AM CST

    arseholes. Phone is ringing

    by lost jarv

    Basic Instinct is also a pretty rubbish film. I remember it being great, but time is not being nice to it. Useless piece of trivia- In the club scene, Michael Douglas insisted on wearing that tragic V-neck, despite the protestations of the wardrobe department, because he owned it and not only that, it was his favourite jumper.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 11:23:49 AM CST

    yeah Basic Instinct isn't that great anymore....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ...I watched it like a year ago-- and not only are the fuck scenes much softer than I remembered, but the movie overall is just kinda dull. I remember it being a pretty hardcore feeling cop movie. Now it feels very made for TV. Oh shit. I speaking of hardcore cop movies, I caught about a half hour of Serpico the other day. That movie is bad fucking ass. I gotta watch the whole thing. Its very well shot.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 11:25:50 AM CST

    I wish they'd leave me alone so I can go

    by lost jarv

    Serpico is fucking good. Although it is the start of Al Pacino's shouting as acting persona.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 11:30:44 AM CST

    Huzzah!

    by lost jarv

    outta here. See you tomorrow chaps,

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  • Jan 07, 2009 11:31:52 AM CST

    Before I go

    by lost jarv

    Basic Instinct- the problem with it is the piss poor Esterhazs (Sp?) script. It's cliche after cliche and all the dialogue is atrocious.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 11:33:18 AM CST

    I agree....the script blows.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jan 07, 2009 11:33:53 AM CST

    having insomia sucks

    by xiphos_2

    but on the other hand you can get a lot accomplished with the extra hours.Some catching up here:Garden State, okay nothing special in my book.Zach Braff, top flight as JD on Scrubs but in other things pretty "meh". He doesn't bother me at all.Scrubs, WTF happened? I guess it aired a few to many seasons but those early years were golden.Juilette on Lost. With those juggs who the fuck cares if she can't smile. The need to kill of the annoying and not too attractive Kate and have an all lesbo episode with Juliette and the Korean chick.J-Lo aside from Out of Sight she's useless except for teh giant ass.movies I've seen in 09 zero.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 11:42:49 AM CST

    Fuck, Johah is a movie watching machine!

    by just pillow talk

    I'm surprised I've watched four movies in '09: X-Files 2, Red Cliff, Kung Fu Panda, and Hancock.A realistic number for me is 200. Entire weekends are lost to football. And wait until March Madness begins...

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  • Jan 07, 2009 11:45:09 AM CST

    aw fuck, I forgot about Serenity, which was on

    by just pillow talk

    sci-fi again. Mrs. Pillow didn't like the fact that I was watching it again for the "zillionth time". I assured her that it was not nearly that much.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 11:48:46 AM CST

    JPT...your thoughts on Xfiles 2?

    by jonah echo

    I've been waiting to hear what you thought, and hoping I hadn't mislead you in my recommendation.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 11:51:02 AM CST

    the odd thing about that number of films

    by jonah echo

    is that I actually spent time doing other things as well: hanging with family, my wife, visiting relatives, writing, even playing some PS3, which I never do. Of course my viewing slows way down in the winter, as I actually have large chunks of time I can commit to writing(but now I usually throw movies on in the background while I work, so we will see. It shouldnt take long for Zedd to pull far ahead.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 11:51:35 AM CST

    a bit of a mixed bag for me...

    by just pillow talk

    I liked the fact that it was a self-contained story, but I wasn't crazy about the story itself. It was quite underwhelming for me, and not I guess 'creepy' enough. I was thinking, this is the story they wanted to tell on the big screen? The best they could do? However, I did like the feel of the movie, and everyone was okay in it. I just wish they told a different story.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 11:57:53 AM CST

    I've been thinking that not creepy enough isn't

    by just pillow talk

    what I had a problem with, because what they did was clearly pretty fucked up. But I guess I wanted something more, maybe more creature-like. Someone or something that just wasn't right. I don't know, I just wasn't crazy about the story.SPLAT! Oh look, Amanda Peet finally landed.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 12:05:10 PM CST

    JPT

    by xiphos_2

    That's almost exactly how I thought about X Files nearly word for word.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 12:09:21 PM CST

    Jonah

    by mr. zeddemore

    I have no social life here at home, at Uni I usually wind up going to the gym and being social. Less time for films there, so I'm trying to make up the difference. That, and I'm working on an article a week and a further 18pgs of script a week. Takes up lots of time

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  • Jan 07, 2009 12:20:03 PM CST

    that may explain why I'm suddenly wearing

    by just pillow talk

    a Cardinal jersey to work now. Let's go Cardinals!

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  • Jan 07, 2009 12:29:28 PM CST

    JPT The Fever is spreading!

    by xiphos_2

    Unfortunantly I will probably miss the game because I'm travelling.Bad news though, I just read that Sports Illustrated put Larry Fitzgerald on the cover, so I figure that curse will strike the Cards.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 12:30:18 PM CST

    I haven't even ventured into The Watchmen thread

    by just pillow talk

    anyone stir up more trouble?

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  • Jan 07, 2009 12:31:14 PM CST

    I showed a friend Battle Royale last night

    by kungfuhustler84

    He's a huge movie buff, but hasn't had much exposure to much Asian stuff, so I thought it would be a fun place to start.I was wondering, what are your guys' thoughts on the movie? It was a lot more melodramatic this time than I remembered. When I first saw it in high school it affected me a lot more because I kept wondering who I would be like and how I would act on the island, but it didn't do much for me this time. Still, Takeshi Kitano's role as the crazy ex-teacher is absolutely hilarious. Nobody does deadpan comedy like him. And what the hell is up with that ending where he just gets up after being blasted with a submachine gun?

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  • Jan 07, 2009 12:33:06 PM CST

    I would think the SI cover thing would work the opposite

    by just pillow talk

    for the Cardinals. They've been awful for so long, I think they are impervious to that particular curse. The Jets on the other hand...The doctor I saw called it a rash and not a fever.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 12:34:39 PM CST

    kungfu

    by mr. zeddemore

    It's not just that he gets up, it's that he stands up and acts all serious for a few minutes, then dies. Classic.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 12:35:37 PM CST

    agreed JPT..

    by jonah echo

    the story was by far the weakest and most underwhelming aspect. Unfortunately, that means quite alot with something like XFiles.Like you I still enjoyed it most of it. Just didnt excite or interest me.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 12:39:19 PM CST

    Pillow I thought the same thing at first

    by xiphos_2

    About the Cards not being affected by the SI curse but the thing is, if there is a way to fuck the dog the cards will find it and embrace it. It's thier strength.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 12:43:17 PM CST

    I would have also thought Fox would have met

    by just pillow talk

    more trepidation than he did. Clearly he was supposed to be an outcast, yet he was able to sort of run the show or guide the investigation more than one would have thought.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 12:48:42 PM CST

    Watchmen TB

    by hobocode

    I threw in a "Fuck Israel!" post just t ostir things up but was ignored. Oh well. Fuck'em anyway.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 12:55:37 PM CST

    yeah, but realistically they shouldn't win

    by just pillow talk

    That being said, I'm not a big believer in Carolina. They are 3-3 against playoff teams, and shouldn't the Cardinals have beaten them when they played before? I wouldn't be shocked to see Carolina lose.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 1:58:06 PM CST

    let me just say FUCK CAROLINE KENNEDY!

    by dannyglovers_dickblood


    You should get a powerful political seat handed to you because your name is Kennedy and you licked Obama's asshole clean for months. Fuck that cunt. No wonder she can't get a dick.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 2:01:33 PM CST

    I meant to say SHOULDNT get a seat...

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Jan 07, 2009 2:41:04 PM CST

    I have to express GEEK RAGE at The Spirit again

    by mr. zeddemore

    Usually I hate it when people relentlessly bag on a film, but it wasn't even so bad it was good. It was just bad... and bad in that 'it could easily have been better' way.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 3:11:35 PM CST

    movies I've seen since the start of 2009

    by the milf lover

    I dont want to join your 500 movies in 2009 contest, I know I'll likely come in last. But here's what I've seen the past week:
    Ip Man: I'm repeating myself here, but excellent movie in every way.
    Sha Po Lang (AKA Kill Zone): great story, but the action, not so much. I liked how brutal the fights were, but they were badly filmed, with all the awkward wire flips and throws that just looked wrong.
    Jumper: surprisingly good little flick. The effects were very well done. I just think the story needed an extra 20 minutes or so to explain things more. All we got was: these guys are Jumpers; and these guys are Paladins and they kill Jumpers.
    10000BC: just an awful boring film with amateur looking effects, most of it had the quality of a weathergirl in front of her prediction grids. I did like the design of the pyramids being built with mammoths, but other than that, nothing.
    Igor: cute , with interesting character designs, but little else, forgotten as soon as it's over.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 3:13:32 PM CST

    Wahoo

    by mr. zeddemore

    Almost finished a script.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 3:17:44 PM CST

    Danny, you have a big fan!

    by the milf lover

    most excellent ninja randomly posted this in the Shazam TB:
    "Fuck I hate DICKBLOOD, what a cunt

    worst poster on AICN ever. him and his caps name. Get fucked."
    I've seen another such random hate rant aimed at you in another one too, I just dont remember which one or who posted it...

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  • Jan 07, 2009 3:42:42 PM CST

    oh fantastic!

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    maybe he will let me put it in his butthole sans jimmy hat.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 3:50:45 PM CST

    Screw that cretin

    by mr. zeddemore

    Me and Node square down all the time, but we do it like men and to each others faces. You don't trash a guy when he's not in the fucking TB.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 5:20:35 PM CST

    Watched...

    by therewolf

    from HOD's batch - Chocolate. I was getting into it but once the fighting started my attention began to drift. I appreciate the combat is well done but I found it repetitive. Also, Mr. Socrates, which I liked a lot. Couldn't grasp why he was being 'taught' to join the police, though.Also saw The Golden Compass. It was okay, but utterly charmless, I thought. The polar bear scrap should've been harder, brutal. It's for kids though, innit...And Fritz Lang's silent epic Frau Im Mond. Bit over-cooked but I loved it. There's an actor in it, Fritz Rasp who's a dead ringer for Viggo Mortensen! It's technically quite realsitic, dealing with a mission to the moon. But once they get there - off come the space suits and off they go gallivanting about! It's daft but good fun.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 5:31:14 PM CST

    Hellboy 2

    by therewolf

    Oh, yeh, watched this as well. Thought it was fine. Halfway through it seemed to drift onto autopilot, though. And for a movie sub-headed The Golden Army I was expecting a Golden Army on the rampage across the planet. But they never get out of the garage do they. Bit disappointing.The monster market sequence was great. There were little faeries flying about - I'm sure they were the same ones from Pan's Labyrinth. Does anyone else think so? Also liked the Manilow singalong - funny. Didn't like Fishface's "I can't cry, don't think I have tear ducts" line. Too obvious.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 5:37:14 PM CST

    Sorry...

    by therewolf

    Abe Sapien - not "Fishface."

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  • Jan 07, 2009 6:16:36 PM CST

    Yeah Zeddemore

    by kungfuhustler84

    when I said he got up, the whole acting nonchalant, talking to his daughter on the phone, and then dying immediately after hanging up, was all implied.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 6:57:05 PM CST

    Echo

    by series7

    I liked Spiral as well. I found it very Hitchcockian in nature.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 7:00:13 PM CST

    ThereWolf

    by series7

    Golden Compass was a huge Turd. SO BAD. The only way it could have been slighty good is if right after the bear fight ended, the credits ran. Then it could have been an awesome movie. I mean you really didn't care about the story at all it was all over the place, so I didn't need any resolution, nor was any actually given. Who the fuck thought that Mr. American Pie, good ole Chuck and Buck Suck and fuck could've directed some epic effects movie.... OH Wait that crap won an Oscar.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 7:52:20 PM CST

    Damn

    by series7

    Home alone again. I'm gonna do a back to back viewing of Bablon A.D to see the differences between the two cuts.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 8:35:25 PM CST

    Movies in 09

    by series7

    Damn I saw like a shit ton between Dec 24 and 31. So far in 09 Ping Pong Playa, The Ass of Jesse James, Searching for John Gissing, Burn After Reading, Dear Zachary, What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?, Red Cliff, The Thing, and Babylon AD tonight. I feel like there is more. Its kind of funny some of the older movies listed I've watched recently, like Jarv put Cube and I watched that again last month, and American Teen I saw like two weeks ago (but I guess that doesn't count since it just came out on the VHS).

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  • Jan 07, 2009 8:37:31 PM CST

    Echo

    by series7

    SO did Defiance suck big jewy balls? Also what did you think about White America... I mean American Teen.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:09:34 PM CST

    OH YEAH

    by series7

    Who caught last nights Nip Tuck? Huh? Man talk about a poop in the pants.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 9:18:01 PM CST

    Mr. Zeddemore

    by yoda's ball sack

    You might have just saved me. I am back from 1997. Thank you sir. Would you be offended if I changed my name to Mr. Zeddemore's Ball Sack? ..... lol. If not you have my thanks.

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  • Jan 07, 2009 10:50:22 PM CST

    so I'm the only one who liked Golden Compass?

    by the milf lover

    alrighty then....

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  • Jan 08, 2009 12:57:27 AM CST

    Yeah you are

    by series7

    Now go back to crazy land.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 1:06:10 AM CST

    I liked GOLDEN CUM-PASS.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Fantastic facial in the 3rd scene. First two are fake cream pies. I hate when there is a cut between the pull out and the drip.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 1:07:59 AM CST

    Just finished the Wackness

    by series7

    Needless to say, it was wack.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 2:20:44 AM CST

    Golden Compass

    by lost jarv

    not seen it, but I hate the books with a passion for being shit. So therefore, I suspect it isn't for me. Last night watched Aliens for the umpteenth time with Mrs. Jarv, and then The Descent for the umpteenth time because it was on at 11 and although I was trying to go to sleep I couldn't so I stuck it on. I honestly think I know every fucking line in that film now. I've got a weird complaint about The Descent, which also applies to Aliens and untold other films: I'm pig sick of the shot where either the main character or a monster of some description slowly rises out of the water. It's lifted wholesale from Martin Sheen at the end of Apocalypse Now and I never want to see it again. Over-fucking-used.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 2:25:38 AM CST

    Aliens and The Descent both count for me,

    by lost jarv

    because it's the first time I've seen them in 2009.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 2:35:26 AM CST

    not that I don't like that shot

    by lost jarv

    I do quite like it, I've just seen it too many times, and it's become cliche.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 2:38:11 AM CST

    Battle Royale

    by lost jarv

    FUcking rocks da casbah. No argument can be had over this. Battle Royale 2 is the far side of suck, though.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 2:46:10 AM CST

    Now I'm back on my old work hours

    by lost jarv

    8-5. This blows a fat one.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 2:50:28 AM CST

    already fucking bored

    by lost jarv

    Where is everyone?

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  • Jan 08, 2009 3:09:16 AM CST

    This 365-500 game is hard

    by franklin t marmoset

    I'm up to four films for 2009 now, but it's tough going, especially being a working chump. Only so much time left in the day after work and gym and traipsing to Morrisons to pick up the inevitable something that's missing from my fridge.Anyway, last night I got through:The Exorcism Of Emily Rose, which was mediocre, and Dexter's sister must have lost at least a lung from all that screaming.Bad Santa, which gets better every time I see it. So funny, Billy Bob is a champion, and - I don't care what any of you cunts say - Lauren Graham is de-god-damn-motherfucking-licious in it.Iron Man, which still holds up for me. Good film.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 3:12:33 AM CST

    Watching Iron Man again...

    by franklin t marmoset

    ...made me realise there's something important I need from a comic book film - I need the lead character to look cool.Iron Man looks cool. Hellboy looks cool. Blade looks motherfucking cool. Christopher Nolan's Batman does not look cool. He looks like he's on his way to a gimp convention, and when gets there all the other gimps will point at him and laugh.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 3:15:17 AM CST

    I'm going to be packing films onto my DVR

    by franklin t marmoset

    Just to ensure a steady supply of films to watch.I've already got Seabiscuit, Finding Neverland, and The World's Fastest Indian. Last night was a bumper crop - I recorded Van Wilder, Murder At 1600, Bowfinger, and The Descent. Tonight there's Thank You For Smoking and Wolf Creek, but that's just not enough.Come on, free telly - I need more films to watch!

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  • Jan 08, 2009 3:18:23 AM CST

    Finished Band of Brothers last night

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Thats a great fucking show. The 2nd last episode was brilliant. I can't remember seeing a movie where you see the camps discovered from the soldiers POV. (I'm sure its been done, just can't remember one) It was brilliant. Next I need some more lighthearted fare.24 starts sunday. Oh yeah. Perfect.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 3:22:45 AM CST

    It was so brilliant...

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    i called it brilliant and then brilliant again! Not enough coffee in my system makes my superlatives absolutely brilliant!

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  • Jan 08, 2009 3:26:23 AM CST

    I would never get close to 365-500

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    I tend to watch tv shows during the week and only catch flicks on the weekend.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 3:37:26 AM CST

    I'm normally the same, droid

    by franklin t marmoset

    But I was inspired by the supreme stupidity of Mr Z's ambition. Who knows how long I can keep it going, but 365 is only 1 film a day, and if I miss any during the week I've always got the weekend to catch up.Mind you, I spent all that money on Seinfelds and The Wire yesterday, and I wanted to dig into those this weekend...

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  • Jan 08, 2009 3:38:45 AM CST

    I might aim for...

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    100 films I haven't seen before. Thats two a week. Thats doable and leaves space to revisit the classics.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 3:45:27 AM CST

    I'm well on course, and I tend to pack in more

    by lost jarv

    over the weekends. Course, I can't sleep and hate my job.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 3:47:15 AM CST

    Yes, but doable is not nearly stupid enough for me

    by franklin t marmoset

    If I'm going to achieve something, I want it to be an utterly asinine achievement.Also, what I like about trying to see so many films is it ensures I'll get a good variety, and there should be some good surprises, too.Either that or in a month or so I'll be so sick of films I'll never want to watch another one again.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 3:50:27 AM CST

    I think you can overdo watching films.

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    I watched about 10 in 3 days over the break and i was finding it difficult concentrating on the last couple. One of them was Death Race so that may have had something to do with it.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 3:50:39 AM CST

    I think I'm the only person in the world that

    by lost jarv

    likes Van Wilder. Sad to admit.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 3:53:16 AM CST

    Depends on the order,

    by lost jarv

    and if I'm hungover on a Saturday then I'll watch any old bollocks that's on Channel 5. Even complete shite like Dr Dolittle 3. Which isn't even Dr. Dolittle because he isn't in it, and I felt a bit more stupid for having seen it.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 3:53:31 AM CST

    I find Ryan Reynolds entertaining in general

    by mr. zeddemore

    Anyone ever watch Two Guys And A Girl? Between Reynolds, Fillion and Howard it was like an audition for pseudo-mainstream success.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 3:55:20 AM CST

    Batman does not look cool?

    by lost jarv

    as opposed to that paragon of coolness the Thing? who looks like a crusty dog turd

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  • Jan 08, 2009 3:55:26 AM CST

    Van Wilder

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    For me, Van Wilder was trying to hard to gross out. I didn't mind Ryan Reynolds in it though, but Tara Reid needs to fuck off.The Harold and Kumars are much better.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 3:57:28 AM CST

    It's a while since I've seen Van Wilder

    by franklin t marmoset

    But I remember liking it. Nothing sad about that.I haven't seen the sequel, though. It looks bad, but maybe I can have a double feature at the weekend if they've got part 2 up Blockbusters.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 3:57:30 AM CST

    Oy, leave The Thing alone

    by mr. zeddemore

    The costume sucked, but they got the right actor.,

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  • Jan 08, 2009 3:58:35 AM CST

    The order

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    I usually end up watching an absolute shit film I know will be terrible after watching an "important" film. Hence I watched Death Race after seeing Slumdog and Revolutionary Road.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 3:59:33 AM CST

    What a weird argument, Jarv

    by franklin t marmoset

    I never said a thing about the Thing, just musing on one possible reason why Nolan's version of Batman is not for me.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 4:04:38 AM CST

    A question about The Shadow

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    I love the film. Its very enjoyable. I watched it recently for the first time in years and years. But the one thing that irked me is...Why does Baldwin need a massive prosthetic nose when he's The Shadow? This is probably a question for DGDB since he's professed his love for it in the past.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 4:05:26 AM CST

    Lost 403

    by mr. zeddemore

    I have to admit, it's one of my fave TV eps of recent memory. Something about them giving Naveen Andrews decent material... and a gun.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 4:13:34 AM CST

    I wondered that last time I saw it.

    by lost jarv

    Does he actually "transform" when he becomes the shadow? if so, why?

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  • Jan 08, 2009 4:15:28 AM CST

    Batman costume-

    by lost jarv

    has never looked cool in any of the films. Burton's was pretty crap, Schumacher's was gay and Nolan's is unremarkable. You just get faintly aroused by the Robin costume in Batman and Robin

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  • Jan 08, 2009 4:16:40 AM CST

    We're merrily stomping towards 1500 posts

    by lost jarv

    this thread should top out at about 1800 before we get a new one.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 4:21:27 AM CST

    Sam Raimi has the right to The Shadow

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    And plans to make a film at some stage. Could be interesting.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 4:25:53 AM CST

    You Dark Knight fans don't half have sandy vaginas

    by franklin t marmoset

  • Jan 08, 2009 4:27:59 AM CST

    And Batman looked cool in Burton's films

    by franklin t marmoset

    He looked like a gothic comic book superhero (which is what I always thought Batman was supposed to look like), not an armour-plated spelunker with ears and a cape.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 4:29:49 AM CST

    I take back all my Batman-related comments

    by franklin t marmoset

    In really, really, really can't be assed to argue about that one anymore.Sorry for any offense caused, fans of The Dark Knight.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 4:40:45 AM CST

    X-Men II

    by mr. zeddemore

    What a film!

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  • Jan 08, 2009 4:41:32 AM CST

    George W. comments - Good for a laugh

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    http://tinyurl.com/827ny7

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  • Jan 08, 2009 4:45:33 AM CST

    Burton's batman did not look cool

    by lost jarv

    but the voice was a million times better than Bale's stupid BAAAAAAAAAT VOOIIIIIICE. We had great fun with his dialogue and the lever of swearing over christmas.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 4:47:16 AM CST

    Bat-Voice

    by mr. zeddemore

    WHERE ISSSSSSSSSSS HEEEEEEEEEEE? is the funniest line of dialogue from any film in years.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 4:49:02 AM CST

    When he threw Maroni off the building:

    by lost jarv

    "I'M COUNNNNNNTINNNNNG OOOOOOOON IIIIIIIIIT" Woeful. PS. George Bush is a fucking cretin.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 4:50:03 AM CST

    My fav Bat-voice moment

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    SSSWWWWEEEEEAAAARRRRR TTTOOOOO MMMEEEEE!!!!

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  • Jan 08, 2009 4:50:28 AM CST

    My favourite Bush-ism is probably

    by lost jarv

    "It would be a mistake for the United States Senate to allow any kind of human cloning to come out of that chamber." Just because it summons up visions of The Fly.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 4:51:13 AM CST

    or

    by lost jarv

    "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully."
    What the fuck was he talking about.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 4:52:20 AM CST

    The other classic one is the bit near the end

    by mr. zeddemore

    Where he's talking about how the people of Gotham have shown their true colours.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 4:56:13 AM CST

    New Twitch is up

    by lost jarv

    time to up sticks people.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 4:56:52 AM CST

    We have a new twitch thread

    by mr. zeddemore

    See the main page.

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  • Jan 08, 2009 4:57:25 AM CST

    Or this one

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    THISSSSS CITYYYYYYY JUSSSSSST SSSHHHOWEDDDD YOOOOUUUUU THATTTT ITTSSSSS FUUUUULLLLL OFFFFF PEEEEOOOPLE READYYYYYY TOOOOOO BEEEEELIEEEEEEEVE INNNN GOOOOOOOOD!

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  • Jan 08, 2009 5:01:51 AM CST

    hahaha

    by mr. zeddemore

    Oh, that Bale.

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