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James Cameron and his 2 Mars projects... 1 is TV and the other one is IMAX 3-D!

Published at:  Jul 14, 1999 12:17:58 AM CDT

Folks, this is Harry here.... MAN, this sounds like Cameron is up to his next tickling
with brilliance. Personally from the sound of this, I would guess that he’s probably using
these projects as a bit of R&D for his AVATAR project that is just awaiting to be made
someday. Keep your fingers crossed. Ol Roger Ramjet here... Man, I tell you. It always
pays to be courteous to folks wherever you are. He really didn’t know much about film
other than the final product, now look... He’s a spy. Cool. Personally, I don’t know
about you, but I’m dying to hear more on these projects. Well... Here’s Roger...




Hey there Harry, you might remember me from your visit a while back to Nasa when you
came to visit the ARMAGEDDON set. I was the one that asked you why they kept
shooting the same scenes 15 to 20 times. I realize now how stupid that must have
sounded. After a year and a half of reading your site I think I have a better grip on what
goes into making a movie.

I bet you are wondering what I’m going on about with this email, so I guess I better get
on up to the point.

There’s a bunch of us NASA guys here in Houston that are really quite pissed about the
whole bunch of ‘MARS’ projects on the horizon in Hollywood. You see you have those
two projects at Warner Brothers and Disney that are just so full of baloney that we NASA
types just want to throw our hands up in the air and form a revolt. One has the remains of
giant dinosaurs on the surface of Mars, they all have government conspiracies that make
us out to be the bad guys. In fact they even have the same sort of unlikely bullshit as was
in that FIRST MEN ON THE MOON bit, complete with pulsating domes that encapsulate
alien towns.

And let us not even go into the actual science of the space travel. We really did think after
the success of APOLLO 13 and that mini-series of Tom Hanks that we’d see an explosion
of real hard science fact being spiced into our science fiction films.

I know this sounds really negative Harry, but there is a point to all of this. I was hanging
out at a bar with some of my fellow NASA workers and as the night wore on, one of our
project managers started getting really open. This is why if you people think we are
covering something up you are wrong. We are people just like you. We can get fucked
up and vocal about secrets and blow it like anybody else. Keeping secrets in this world is
not as simple as saying it is a secret. This man, who I’ll call John Glenn just cause he’s a
real hero, began detailing a real Hollywood project, actually two of them, that do care
about the reality of space travel and the future of man.

Turns out both projects are sitting in the lap of James Cameron. One is that 5 hour
mini-series detailing the first manned mission to Mars that will be not unlike that Tom
Hanks HBO thing. Cameron’s take is to treat the Mars mission as though it has already
happened. John Glenn was calling these projects Science Fact, but that is kind of stupid
since it hasn’t happened yet and is fictional, it is by definition Science Fiction. It’s just
paying a real close bit of attention to the hard SCIENCE part.

The other project is a 3-D IMAX movie that will cover the same basic subject matter
called DESTINATION MARS. Now John really started going into how much Cameron
really cares about the reality of the mission. He’s talking to all of our people here in
NASA about the space suits, equipment we’ll need, the mission plans. He wants to know
every step we will need to take to get there, just like when we went to the moon. John
says that Cameron really is listening to the scientist as opposed to just paying them for
their ‘consultant’ names autographed on the project for validity’s sake. (ahem,
ARMAGEDDON anyone?)

When I say he’s really listening to us, I really mean it. I’m talking about him including
details like the “In-Situ Resource Utilization Nuclear Powered Fuel Plant” Most people
really don’t care about that sort of thing, but that piece of equipment and mission is what
will assure the astronauts the ability to have supplies waiting for them on Mars. You see it
extracts elements from the atmosphere that we’ll need to manufacture all the water and
fuel and oxygen for the return trip, as well as the stay on Mars.

There is so much more that I can go into with you Harry, but for now why don’t you run
this and see if your audience wants to hear more about the project. You have my email,
just contact me if there is any interest. The two Cameron projects are what we NASA
folks are excited about. You know, we’ve had a century of science fiction melodramas
and a lot of us scientist want to see the movies done with the same degree of care and
effort that we put into the real thing. By trivializing space travel and inter-planetary
voyages it makes what we do seem and feel to kids out there as being archaic and silly.
By taking it seriously and showing the real thought and team effort and the drive and
passion of meeting each of a thousand different goals I really feel that kids and people in
school will redouble their efforts and go back to dreaming a lost dream we have had.

Wow, I really did not intend to turn this into a Gettysburg Address, but you know me.
Just get me talking and try to shut me up. I love what we do here, I just want more
people out there to love it too.


This is Roger Ramjet zooming out



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    Readers Talkback

  • Jul 14, 1999 12:28:22 AM CDT

    jimmy cameron and oh, am i first?

    by spidahman

    i was wondering when mr.cameron was gonna take on some new stuff. and this project has me super jazzed. i never really did like titanic. but this mars stuff is right up my tree. i say let cameron have the run of NASA for a while so he gets everything jake for his flicks. viva la IMAX!

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  • Jul 14, 1999 12:31:33 AM CDT

    IMAX 3D RULES

    by darken

    If James Cameron takes on an Imax 3D film, perhaps that'll push the format into the mainstream and then movies will really start to rock. This is so awesome, I hope it isn't bullshit.

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  • Jul 14, 1999 12:40:42 AM CDT

    Fantastic-sounding Mars movies!

    by justine

    This sounds very interesting indeed! Personally I would *love* to hear more about these 2 films if there is more to be heard. Now... if we could only go to Mars for real before I die... [sigh!]
    : )

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  • Jul 14, 1999 1:14:13 AM CDT

    Only Cameron can pull this off right

    by magykelf

    I have heard alot of the same rumors about Cameron's intense interest in a Mars film project. He is the only director I know who insists on ABSOLUTE reality, even if it contrary to what Hollywood expects. His "Titanic" was more accurate in many ways than all other titanic films. No one else had the balls to actually go down to the real Titanic personally,not even Stephen Lowe, who directed the IMAX film "Titanica". This brings me to IMAX. I have personally asked Cameron on many occasions about his interest in doing an IMAX film. His reply was always the same, " I would love to, but first I would need to find a worthy subject to film." An IMAX film about a man on mars sounds worthy enough to me. P.S.- If Cameron does make an IMAX 3D film like all his latest films, he will have made the most expensive film in cinema history FOUR TIMES!! 1- Terminator 2, 2- Terminator 3D, 3- Titanic 4- IMAX 3D Mars film. ( IMAX 3D is INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE to begin with!!!)

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  • Jul 14, 1999 1:16:31 AM CDT

    ... not the first

    by blsweden

    Well .... I recently saw "Wing of Courage" the first film/documantary attempt in 3D Imax format; made by Jean Jacques Annaud also known for directed "The name of the Rose" and "The Bear".
    The film is only 40 mm long, so it's a little bit short for telling a story but the door is open ...
    If cameron succeeded to made a success out of this project, well we can see in a close future the multiplication of IMAX theater and have finally the format becoming mainstream despite the fact that the movies gonna cost more and more.But I guess Cameron is one of the few director who can find the financing for such kind of project, I just hope it will be a full lenght feature movie.

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  • Jul 14, 1999 3:23:14 AM CDT

    We need a full length IMAX feature and this would be perfect

    by paragonian

    One of the best things about IMAX is that you can't do a lot of quick cuts because it overloads the viewers, so no more Armageddon's which would be a big plus. I've seen movies on IMAX for a long time and especially loved the recent Everest one. If some more IMAX theaters opened up then we could get some full length bigger budget films, so this would be a big step in that direction. James Cameron's great with technological stories and goes into more unnecessary but good details than Stanley Kubrick. By the way NASA, maybe if you wouldn't sell yourselves as technical advisers on schlockfests like Armageddon than no one would take those films seriously. I'm sure enough tax dollars go to you guys to afford a good lifestyle already. And help Mulder get his damned sister back already!

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  • Jul 14, 1999 4:27:43 AM CDT

    How would this ever pay for itself?

    by major boothroyd

    Call me a doubting Thomas if you will but one fact occurs to me. how would an Imax format effects laden film of this magnitude ever turn a profit, considering the small number of potential outlets?
    Most imax films to date have been on relatively straightforward subjects, are relatively short and even then they are very expensive. Moreover the makers recognise that they need long runs to cover their costs. Financially I doubt this film could ever work.

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  • Jul 14, 1999 5:20:09 AM CDT

    Whee!!

    by hamadryad

    Well, I have been a science fiction fan since I was at least seven years old...well, actually, at the MOST seven years old, that's just when I remember seeing "Star Wars" for the first time and being enthralled. There is a market for good sci-fi (or sci-pre-fact, if you prefer)...a huge market. Look at the perpetual success of the Star Trek franchise, and Babylon 5, and anything else space related that does suck (like "Space: Above and Beyond" and Disney's attempt to dismantle NASA, "Rocket Man"). Errr, DOESN'T suck. I just woke up, man. Anyhow, James Cameron's name right now = box office and clout. Just as Tom Hanks' name lent bankability to "From the Earth of the Moon," so can Cameron's name put a few automatic dollar signs on just about any project upon which he puts his hot-in-Hollywood little paws. Part of the reason that IMAX doesn't do better overall dollars-wise is that they are not advertised in the same way as mainstream films. If a movie like this was made for IMAX, and marketed the same way "Titanic" was marketed...media blitz, "behind the scenes" specials out the yin-yang, etc., etc....heck, the reason I don't hit the IMAX theater out where we are is that I rarely hear ANYTHING about what's playing there!! Is a picture forming here? Are you getting into my groove? Does it have a good beat, and can you dance to it? I'd love to see more and more and MORE huge, expensive pictures containing at least a SHRED of actual science, helping the people out here on the streets tell the government through our leisure dollars that YES, we support the space program, YES, we support NASA, and YES, darn it, I blooming well five thousand times shouting it from the rooftops want to be able to go up beyond the stratosphere at least once before I die! i want to see the stars at 2:00 EST, I want to look down and see the continents and the cloud formations and the shimmering blue nimbus of our atmosphere. I want to see the Moon glowing through my window as big as my next door neighbor's house. I want my son to send me digital photographs of the Mars landing...FROM MARS. More media attention, more fiction projects, more fan dollars going into the pockets of people who help us keep the dream alive in the faces of pasty government bureaucrats who have forgotten how to dream.

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  • Jul 14, 1999 5:23:25 AM CDT

    Ugh.

    by hamadryad

    I know there were a few errors in that last post which made it sort of difficult to read, and I want to apologize. I woke up not very long ago, and when I'm passionate about something my fingers run five minutes behind my brain...which is even more of a disadvantage when I'm barely conscious. :) P.S.: MAKE THESE MOVIES. :)

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  • Jul 14, 1999 5:42:56 AM CDT

    Confirmation?

    by brianm

    Sounds like an excellent pair of flicks and some first-class sci-fi! Hope it's true and can't wait to see it. Is there any confirmation of this out there?

    - Brian

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  • Jul 14, 1999 6:24:45 AM CDT

    IMAX

    by payndz

    Cameron? IMAX? Mars? Scientifically accurate? God, this could be simply the coolest movie ever! More to the point, there's an IMAX cinema opening right down the street from where I work in a couple of months... I'm *there*!

    Interesting to read "John Glenn"'s remarks on the Mars movies (and Armageddon). Sounds like they could both suck, even if De Palma's doing one of them. Oh well, there goes my own half-written script for a Mars movie (conspiracies yes, NASA as bad guys no, aliens no). BTW, I recently watched the Criterion DVD of Armageddon with commentaries on. Firstly, you could have a good drinking game with the number of times the NASA bod says "That wouldn't happen in reality." Secondly, there's a fantastic bit where Michael Bay just loses it while talking about the design of the spacesuits and starts ranting about how bad the first version he saw looked - it's obvious he's still pissed off about it, and it's hilarious! I have to admit to a perverse liking for Bay's movies (The Rock is a genuine no-brainer classic) but Armageddon was just taking the piss. How much did they pay the NASA guys to put their names on it?

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  • Jul 14, 1999 6:55:23 AM CDT

    Look at me! I'm a Martian!

    by uncle cracky

    These days, I am less than enthusiastic when hearing about whatever James Cameron is up to. But I would LOVE to find out more about the space program in general and Mars missions in particular. I want my own Great White Ape!

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  • Jul 14, 1999 7:10:27 AM CDT

    Mars Direct

    by chanur

    This past winter James Cameron joined Mars Society, a private organization interested in getting humans to Mars. It was reported he will be attending the society's annual meeting to be held in Boulder Colorado, Aug. 12-15.

    For more info, check out
    http://www.marssociety.org/

    The society was founded by an engineer, Robert Zubrin, who wrote the book, "The Case for Mars: the plan to settle the red planet and why we must."

    Kurt

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  • Jul 14, 1999 7:31:47 AM CDT

    Cameron has been involved with NASA before

    by the_jujy

    In Sept.98, he was part of the Challenge project in
    Florida. He was one of the scuba freaks picked to aprtake
    in living in an underwater environment and become
    aquanauts. You can read interviews and see pictures at the site. Here is
    his profile http://quest.arc.nasa.gov/space/challenge/team/cameron.html just go from there.

    The Hollywood Reporter had mentioned the IMAX project a while back
    so looks like it's the reaal deal.

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  • Jul 14, 1999 7:40:24 AM CDT

    "Get your ass to Mars!"

    by uncapie

    I recently saw "First Men In the Moon" at the Egyptian Theater In Hollywood. It was a beautiful, cinemascope print and they even cleaned up the matte lines around the sphere and the "Only Child" when it begins its descent. Okay, you "Egghead-types" can piss and moan all you want about its innacuracies, but when you see a little girl walk out the theater with her two parents clutching her teddy bear saying, "Boy, what a great movie! That's the best movie I've ever seen!" are you going to be the one to tell her all that stuff is fake? Look at "Robinson Crusoe On Mars". Innacurate, maybe yes, maybe no. Fun and adventureous? YOU BET! Sparks IMAGINATION IN YOUNG PEOPLE'S MINDS TO HAVE WANTED TO BE AN ASTRONAUT? WHAT DO YOU THINK?!! That's why cop movies are overeblown and out of proportion. Real cop work is quite boring and tedious. Would I want to see a movie about a cop writing parking tickets and dealing with domestic disuptes all day? No. Would I want to see a car chase, action and all that? What do you think?

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  • Jul 14, 1999 8:20:11 AM CDT

    Cameron's bad choices

    by mike d

    If Cameron had any sense at this point in his career, he'd be preparing to helm WITH WINGS OF EAGLES. End of discussion! I realize that he's very partial to the sci-fi genre, but don't you think he's been there enough? And if True Lies 2 is his next project, then geez, to me that's a big step back as a would-be legendary director (something he truly has a shot at becoming). WITH WINGS OF EAGLES has classic potential. Why would he ever want to pass that project up?

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  • Jul 14, 1999 8:43:50 AM CDT

    NASA comments

    by orion7

    Paragonian, you've just managed to get me to register and post to this page for the first time... I'm going to hope your comment on NASA salaries and tax dollars was in jest, because unless things have changed dramatically (and I doubt they have), those folks do not earn that much. They don't work for NASA for the money, but for love of what they're doing.

    And Justine, I don't know how old you are, but it really would be possible to see people on in most of our lifetimes. All that is truly lacking is the determination to do it, and the money to back up the determination. If both of those elements can be brought into play, it'll happen.

    BTW, for those calling for a feature length IMAX film here... While I'd love to see the same thing too (been wishing for it for years), don't expect anything over about 45 minutes. But you never know...

    Now here's an interesting thought... In the interests of realism, Cameron went down to the Titanic for that movie. Now, while he can't go to Mars, what are the odds he'll try to make arrangements to do some filming in space for the travel sequences? ;)

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  • Jul 14, 1999 8:52:26 AM CDT

    ONLY Cameron can Do This?

    by goodgulf

    How soon we forget that it was Ron Howard who directed Apollo 13. So James Cameron doesn't have the field entirley to himself. Both are excellent directors, but from what I've heard of Cameron's personality on the set, I think I'd rather work with Howard.

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  • Jul 14, 1999 9:01:56 AM CDT

    Howard, NASA & Cameron

    by the_jujy

    In reference to the JC in actual space, a
    while back he mentioned he woud love to go, and that he would\
    love to do a docu. on the making of the INternational Space Station.
    He made some off the cuff remark at a press conferenec in Canada about having already talked to NASA, and it got
    carried on the newswires that he was negotiating with NASA to go itno space. Of course, then you had denials from NASA
    and Rae Sanchini saying it was a joke. But in this new light, maybe it will happpen. Noone is going to be lining up to say Cameron is a hero though.

    In refernce to Apollo 13, are you aware that one of the reasons
    Digital Domain got the FX job on that film was because Cameron
    was an uncredited design consultant for the film. Both Howard
    and Time magazine made mention of this.

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  • Jul 14, 1999 9:26:16 AM CDT

    MARS!

    by yossarian

    I am a Mars fanatic. I can spot it in about 2 seconds on any clear evening it's in the sky. If you want to read a good piece of technical fiction, read 'Voyage' by a guy named Baxter. It's about how if Kennedy had survived the assasin's bullet, he would have continued to press for further exploration of space and could've gone to Mars by the mid-Eighties.
    We have long since had the technological ability to go, we just have to get up off of our Lay-Z-Boy asses and do it. Another good series is Red Mars, Green Mars, and Blue Mars by Kim Stanley Robinson, fictional, but good, deals with colonizing and terraforming Mars. I for one would love to see a fictional "documentary" of Man's first rendevous with Mars. More than that I would like to see it really happen.

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  • Jul 14, 1999 9:38:22 AM CDT

    H-ard Sci-ence!

    by lord shell

    Dare I believe that any Hollywood theater could possibly put out a science fiction movie with HARD SCIENCE?! There have been so few that they're hardly worth mentioning. "Outland" is the only one I can think of off hand, and even it had a few flaws (minor ones, though). I guess the reason is that the goombah writers come up with the situations first, then worry(albeit passingly) about the science a distant second (ahem-Star Trek anyone?). Now granted most of the people out there know little to nothing about physics, but isn't that the point? I mean, when I was a kid and some obscure subject was mentioned that I was ignorant of, I would LOOK IT UP or ASK ABOUT IT! Hell, I couldn't even hazard a guess at how much friggin' COMIC BOOKS expanded my vocabulary! The comics I loved the most were the ones that didn't talk down to me. To find a science fiction film that doesn't talk down to me these days is like trying to find a "Xena" episode without cleavage. Now I can find a simple way of solving the hard science dilemma: Just let science fiction writers write the damn scripts instead of these hacks who think "apogee" is a new soft drink. Then banish the hacks to write . . . er, well anything but science fiction. (Sorry about my ranting. This is a pet peeve of mine.)

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  • Jul 14, 1999 10:10:22 AM CDT

    Somebody needs to make a 'real' IMax3D movie!

    by darth siskel

    I've seen 3 of those IMax3D movies, & they were all surprisingly boring & unimaginative. The 3D of course is amazing, but we need something on the level of The Phantom Menace to make it worth while. (or a giant dancing nakid Playmate) Cameron has done 3D with T2-3D, the only watchable 3D experience.
    If he really is working on an IMax 3D movie, that is great news for the format. Only news of Lucas working on an Imax3D project would make me happier.

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  • Jul 14, 1999 10:34:17 AM CDT

    hard science in hollywood

    by cyboman

    One Hollywood film that had fairly accurate 'hard' science in it's portrayal of a space mission was Peter Hyam's 2010:Odyssey Two. Particularly the gripping 'aerobraking' maneuver used to bleed off velocity and enter an orbit around Jupiter.
    Let's not forget how exciting it would be to establish human presence on the Jovian moons - admittedly, a much harder goal than Mars, but WOW can you imagine having Jupiter up in your ACTUAL SKY staring at you?!?
    It's like a mini solar system out there. And some of those moons have scads of frozen water + heat from vulcanism, which may be a recipe for non terrestrial life... The science of it all! I'm getting a chubby...

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  • Jul 14, 1999 11:06:59 AM CDT

    Major Boothroyd is right

    by musgrave

    Just as when he encouraged 007 to abandon the Beretta in favor of a gun with more stopping power...most IMAX theatres are operated in conjunction with science centers and museums. Few have the facilities to sell drinks and snacks, which are what really turn profits. Typical IMAX movies are short (40 mins or less) and thus are shown more times per day. A two hour plus Cameron film would not only be incredibly expensive to make, but to show (i.e., longer turnaround time between showings = either $25 tickets or less money for the theatres). The film would be wonderful, but the distribution channels are far from there.

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  • Jul 14, 1999 12:28:04 PM CDT

    Mars Trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson

    by the_jujy

    FYI, the miniseries is supposed to be based on these books. Cameron actually travelled with Robinson to Antarctica when KSR was researching his book of the same name. Martha Coolidge has been tapped to direct it. When that was announced in the Hollywood Reporter, it was said that Cameron was going to do a project stemming from it in 3-D form, so this report is a confirmation of the Hollywood Reporter.

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  • Jul 14, 1999 1:31:30 PM CDT

    People seem to be missing the point...

    by meridian

    It was mentioned above by two people, but most people seem to see only the "cool" factor at work here.

    How can this thing possibly fly? It won't unless it can make money, and how is that even remotely possible?

    Milwaukee has what is supposed to be one of the best IMAX theaters ANYWHERE (or so I've been told).

    How many cities actually have them, though? How many are there in the country? Less than a hundred, I'd bet. And these are NOT multiplexes. How is it even remotely possible for a $20M picture (like it won't be at least five or ten times that).

    I'm not being facetious here. I'd love to see this film...so I ask people in the know - how is it possible? Prove me wrong.

    (And don't say that in the next five years there will be thousands of IMAX theaters...because I really doubt that could happen)

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  • Jul 14, 1999 2:05:52 PM CDT

    Jimmy Cameron's losing the race...

    by bigjackiev

    Did anyone else read about that Russian filmmaker (not sure but if memory serves me, the guy that did Solaris) is in actual talks over there to go up to Mir and shoot? They were in talks because Mir has lost its funding and is gonna be canned and it's falling apart anyway so they thought they'd let him up to do some filming. Not sure if that panned out. I certainly hope Cameron gets the Mars miniseries underway. I was hoping he'd do a feature film too...I mean, De Palma doing a Mission to Mars movie? Bah...and then the astronauts get there and "Hey, remember me? Benny Blanco from the Bronx?"

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  • Jul 14, 1999 3:31:07 PM CDT

    I'm the King of the Assholes!

    by billy idol

    Good thing James Cameron is making movies about space travel, since i don't think his ego can fit here on Earth anymore after it swelled to an enormous size after Titanic and those ridiculously undeserved Oscars he won. Fuck post-1991 James Cameron. Unless he makes a Spidey movie, then he will be cool again.

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  • Jul 14, 1999 3:33:08 PM CDT

    making money

    by orion7

    Meridian, I started a post, but when I realized how many questions I left open, I did some research... There are well over 100 IMAX theaters currently in North America alone. My count puts the total at about 125, with 94 in the US, 23 in Canada, and 8 in Mexico. There are also 37 in Europe, and more elsewhere... Unfortunately, I couldn't find any budgetary information on IMAX films, so it's hard to talk too much about profitability. Relative to what Cameron's used to, he'll probably need to keep the budget down, and this almost certainly will be a short (40-45 minute) piece, not feature length. But interestingly, I did find out that the current T-Rex piece actually made it into the box office top 20 one weekend, and in its first 4 months made $15 million, with weekly takes still going up each week as new theaters signed on. Given how long the run of a typical IMAX piece is, something like what we've described from Cameron could easily be budgeted over $20 mil, and make money. Also of note: listed as an upcoming project is Star Trek 3D. Also, a number of regular cinema chains are building IMAX theaters. For this and other info, check out the IMAX corporation website at www.imax.com.

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  • Jul 14, 1999 4:02:29 PM CDT

    Ramjet is Right On

    by supernew

    I agree with Roger when he states that Hollywood movies should get their asses in gear and realize how much care and arduous work is given to a project like the moon or Mars. The whole studio system is stuck on their own prejudice in portraying science and scientists as geeky, socially incompetent, and basically, uncool. Then again, we're talking about industry people who have to deal with their own intellectual inadequacies, it's just unfortunate for the rest of the world that they display their insecurity on screen. Let's hope that a person as technologically competent as Cameron can show the drama and coolness that will actually happen when the Mars project becomes reality.

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  • Jul 14, 1999 4:05:41 PM CDT

    YOU MEAN ARMAEGDDON WASN'T FACTUALY CORRECT??!!!

    by tall_boy

    No, No, SWEET MERCIFUL CRAP, NOOOOO!!! Ben Affleck wasn't in space?! Space shuttles CAN'T spin around like Wombats on crack?! ARGGHHHH!! Lies, my entire life is just lies! WHAT'S THE POINT?! *grabs razor blades, slits wrists* ahhhhhh, sweet bliss. . .

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  • Jul 14, 1999 6:02:50 PM CDT

    want to hear more?

    by the boom

    Tell Ramjet HELL YES we want to hear more!! This sounds really cool. Both projects, but particularly the mini series. It could be a great boost to the effort of actually sending someone to Mars for real. I got chills from Hanks' HBO special about going to the moon, and it made me hoppin' mad at the same time. Mad that we have let more than 20 years pass without any more serious exploration. Hey everyone, "Let's go to Mars!" (spoken in AH-nold accent).

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  • Jul 14, 1999 6:53:28 PM CDT

    Space travel is archaic and silly

    by primemover

    Humans are and always will be terrestial animals. The "conquest of space" mentality is just a mastubatory fantasy of the disciples of Technology and Progress. NASA wants a manned Mars mission to satisfy egos and generate paychecks.

    As for hard science in movies...that is the last thing we need! I go to the movies for entertainment, not to learn about the latest scientific theory. If I want that I'll read a tech journal.
    BTW--I LOVED Capricorn One. Nasa is evil!!! :)

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  • Jul 14, 1999 8:30:52 PM CDT

    Oh, yes!

    by cassius the evil

    Thank God, someone's finally going to make a science fiction movie with real science (Apollo 13 don't count; it's biographical). Let's hope Cameron'll do this right; Titanic, for all it's corniness, did look fairly convincing. But they need to change the name... "Destination Mars"? Uh uh.

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  • Jul 14, 1999 9:22:17 PM CDT

    Primemover, 96 years ago...

    by ktak

    ...there must have been people just like you watching the Wright brothers at Kitty Hawk thinking "Humans are terrestrial creatures. This flying business is just a masturbatory fantasy..." They were all proven absolutely wrong within their lifetimes. It's also likely that a few thousand years earlier, their equally shortsighted descendants thought the same about the fools who went out to the sea in ships. All of mankind's progress and technological achievements occurred in spite of people like you, not because of it. If you don't think we belong in space that's your business. I hear the Flat Earth Society is always looking for new members. Just don't rain on everyone else's parade. As Lee Iacocca said, "You can either lead, follow, or get out of the way!"

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  • Jul 14, 1999 10:47:00 PM CDT

    Possible filming location

    by lymond

    As a Cameron-movie lover and NASA website fanatic the idea of the two combining makes me drool. And this coming from someone who has yet to see an IMAX film as this countries first (New Zealand) is still a few weeks away from opening. For anyone who's interested, this months National Geographic has an article called "Mars on Earth" which follows the expedition of scientists exploring the Haughton Crater in the Arctic. The crater is deemed to be very similar to craters on Mars and the scientists are there as a stepping stone to travelling to Mars. If anybody feels like passing this on to James as a possible location for his film that would be great (I've lost his number).
    A point on the movie not making money - keep in mind that IMAX movies are selling well on DVD and if this is done properly thousands of people (myself included) will be lining up to own their own copy.

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  • Jul 17, 1999 8:32:51 AM CDT

    James Cameron's 2 Mars projects story

    by satan

    I don't really have a comment, as such, but more of a request. I consider myself a amateur movie writer (I know, who doesn't?) and am currently writing (well in my head anyway, I have very little down on paper [or the magnetic memory strip of my hard drive to be more accurate] yet) a Mars movie (among others). I won't go into the hole plot here (thank God?) but a brief over view is: Man (eventually) finds his way to Mars, starts a colony, the colony grows (and in typical human fashion, grows, and grows, and grows), until one day the colonists wake up and decide to cast of the yoke of oppression of there colonial masters, and start a revolution. The whole thing quickly escalates in to a full fledge inter-planetary war, between Earth and Mars. I haven't come up with a title I like yet, but the (current) working title is "Worlds War 1" (yea, I know it sucks, but it's better than my other one "Earth attacks Mars" which came from a brief moment of delirium, I'm nun to proud of [I really wanted to call it "When Worlds Collide" but I've been told that, that one was already used, but such is life]) This may not be the most original idea in the cosmoses, but what is? Hollywood is releasing what seems like 50 good vs. evil, angel vs. devil movies this year, (not that, that's such a bad thing) alone. OK, at long last the request bit (sorry, but I did say I was a writer) I really want to be accurate (as possible anyway) with the real science of space travel, and space combat (I could really start spouting about movies I've seen that weren't, but that can wait till' I'm famous, and my opnion matters) so I was wondering if you could simply pass my e-mail address on to Roger Ramjet (and this letter to, I suppose) to see if he might be interested in a little unpaid technical advising (it would save me a lot of time, and it might even be kind of fun for him too). Sorry to take soooo long to get to the point, and thank you in advance for your time, Satan. PS, the Satan thing is a nick name I've had on and off since I was about 15 but, unfortunately, isn't a very interesting story (we'll without major embellishments anyway). I'm really very nice, once you get to know me.

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  • Aug 11, 2006 8:21:00 PM CDT

    Ooooooh, will they film it on MARRRRRRRS?

    by wolfpack

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