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Paul Dini dreams of a Fleischer SUPERMAN style INDIANA JONES animated series! Now, so do we!
Hey folks, Harry here... not with news, not with rumors, but with dreams. Paul Dini's dreams. Over at TheRaider.Net they transcribed an interview done with their Star Wars big brother, that had a little aside by Paul Dini, who dreams of heading up an Animated INDIANA JONES series in the style of the old school Max Fleischer SUPERMAN cartoons - which were a basis and starting ground for Dini and crew's fantastic work on BATMAN. An incredibly successful series.
Just imagine - many of the original SUPERMAN cartoons that Max & Dave made are already Indiana Jones adventures... Like JUNGLE DRUMS & THE ARCTIC GIANT, THE MUMMY STRIKES and THE UNDERGROUND WORLD. The time period is even dead on. You could have Indy vs Belloq on a series of adventures - or Indy vs Nazis or the Japanese... or just the natural dangers inherent to the situations of his job.
I know I'd tune in - and most likely buy the toys. What about all of you?
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I'd probably watch
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Not really... I mean do we need more animated adventures of classic 80's franchises? What's next? Ghostbusters? Oh wait.. nvm.
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... is that - assuming it were a series for TV and not a once-a-year direct-to-DVD thing - is that no network on TV (broadcast, cable, or otherwise) is going to let Indy fight Nazis, because it would be considered inappropriate for kids and possibly offensive to Jews, or Japanese because it would be politically incorrect. Nazis are okay for movies since they're perfectly okay for everyone to hate but Indy hasn't so much as flipped off a soldier of Imperial Japan in 4 movies over 27 years. And if you tale Indy away from Nazis, you take away part of the authenticity of the era he's supposed to be adventuring in. I'm not saying he always has to fight Nazis, but you want them to pop up every now and then, and in an animated series for TV, it ain't gonna happen. But it would be cool.
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Great idea.
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Why? Lucas is still alive and will single-handedly make sure that anything that passes through him is transformed into dogshit.
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All cartoons suck, they do. You know this in your heart to be true. I grew up watching, them and I have a DVD shelf full of them. I'm always excited for the next project and always disgusted by the results. The Batman Animated Series was one of the best. After you have seen one episode you have seen them all, I put them on at night when I can't sleep. It helps, try it.
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I hope someone gives this the go ahead, because we need a good Indy experiance after this summer's disaster.
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Dini's dreams will soon be interrupted and dashed by a monstrous, salivating, George Lucas w/ a WAY crazy look in his eyes.
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...to ever happen. Enough has been said since 1999 about George Lucas losing his touch and I'm not going to rehash it here. We all know that if an animated Indy were going to happen (and honestly, it could and should have happened anywhere in the last 20 years), the same house that's doing Clone Wars now would be developing it. A Paul Dini Indy series would be amazing! Direct to DVD, webisode - hell, I'd settle for the poster.
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They usually involve fucking Uma Thurman in her nostril. Can we start posting those? -
Maybe a one-off dvd as suggested by Geekgasm, see how it sells, then go from there.
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No no no no no. Leave Indy alone. Isn't STAR WARS a big enough ATM for you, George? Must you destroy another franchise by stretching another beloved film series as far as it will go, to the point of bland kid stuff? Did we learn nothing from Crystal Skull? Oh, what's the point.
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As he does with everything he gets involved in these days. I wish he would go back to experimental projects and let the fans take control of the cash cows.
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Lucas gets stuck in there and we have the comedy monkey or gopher sidekick who gets them in a heap of trouble....oh that scamp!
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Indiana Jones hasn't had balls since Temple of Doom so why not.
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-if they do this, they'll cock it up with a comic sidekick (a little girl or a dog or something) and make it all full of puns and winks to the audience. If they kept it old Fleischer style and went serious with it, it could be incredibly badass. Make it rough and tumble like Raiders. Oh, how sweet that would be.
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Lucas is a jealous control freak. Look at Tartakovsky's Clone Wars. That was vastly superior to any of the prequels, and because of that reason Lucas had to make a shitty CGI remake that he could control and put gay Hutts in and shit. I'd rather never see an animated Indy project than see one in which Lucas was breathing down the necks of the artists saying "That's great, but can you put more groan inducing puns in it? And can we have one fat goofy Nazi that farts all the time? And while you're at it, can we give Indy a green alien space monkey pet that causes all sorts of mischief? Cuz the kids love that shit."
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...every movie I ever liked would be beat to death over the course of 30 years. Why weren't there more sequels in the '2001 A Space Odyssey' franchise?
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A large part of the success of the Indy character, other than the obvious--Spielberg--is the personality, charm and persona that a 1980's-era Harrison Ford brought to the part. None of the famous exasperated Indy looks, the furious index finger or the sly Indy half-smile. Without Ford, this is just an animated Young Indiana Jones Chronicles.
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But you all get my drift anyway.
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Forgive my ignorance, but why would it be offensive for there to be Nazi bad guys all the time? It's not like they're going to be portrayed in a positive way. Indy's gonna kick their asses anyway, what Jewish person wouldn't like seeing Nazis getting beat up every week? Maybe I've got the wrong angle on this, but it seems pretty awesome to me. Lucas will make sure none of this happens, so it's a moot point anyway.
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And he'd be the perfect guy to do it as well! Lucas is an Animation Freak anyways-he would so TOTALLY dig it.
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I just got done watching an episode of The Clone Wars that Paul Dini and it was awesome. He seems to just keep getting better and better with everything he is doing.
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Dec 23, 2008 11:38:58 AM CST
TORTURE! This is torture, I want this so bad it has ruined my da
by stormwatcher
To watch this with my daughter and buy all the TOYS you hear me Lucas minions I WILL FINANCE THOUSANDS OF THIS with my toy purchases as I ain't buying your stupid Clone Wars stuff. But Indy, well hell yeah.
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Dec 23, 2008 11:46:55 AM CST
Great ideal, but Lucas likes to keep greatness away from his fra
by mr. moe
But I would give anything to see this happen.
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Aside from the few Clone Wars eps I think he signed on for. He had a decent run on Detective Comics going, then Grant Morrison fucked a solid done-in-one Dini classic Batman style run with all his Morrison-esque artisty and douchebagery and RIP-y. Sigh.
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THAT was SUPERMAN. Not man-boys in gym shorts. Set it in the 30's also and get some grizzled, square jawed hollywood vet to play the lead, someone in their late 30's to early 40's. No gym bodies. Just some barrelshaped kick ass type. Art deco environment. Tommy guns. Giant Robots. Lazerbeams. Make it happen if you want to re-boot SUPERMAN.
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Batman: The Animated Series is absolutely fantastic. A cartoon series that is accessible to all sorts of age groups. Indiana Jones is a character that could certainly work in the serialized medium and Dini is the right man for the job. I hope this works out!
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god KOTCS sucked. bawls.
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Agree with FleshMachine: Lucas has proven he has lost his golden touch from the 1970s and 1980s & should be kept at arms length (give him exec prod credit or something). Let young & ambitious filmmakers come in and write scripts - all of them set between 1927 and 1945 - and have a show runner work a season long arc among them. Now there's a show I'd stay home for.
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So it's okay to post idiotic bullshit like Indy cartoons (those would probably be more similar to Back to the Future - the animated series), but it's NOT okay to discuss possible Dark Knight sequels. This post was created ONLY to generate talkback and banner hits. PIECE OF SHIT, HARRY! PIECE OF SHIT!
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I'd buy into that! What a collection that could be! And Harrison ford could remain Indiana without all of the wrinkles! Yaaaaaaayyy!
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...it's called INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL.
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...In Hell.
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Now any expectations I have for and Indiana Jones animated cartoon will be forever tainted by Paul Dini's comments when it fails to live up to them thanks to Lucas muddling. Then again, Clone Wars Animated is really, really good right now.
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I want an animated adventures of Rick Deckard: Blade Runner.
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That is right out!
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PD needs to keep writing those excellent scripts for SW:TCWAS, continue to become a fan favorite to the point of fever pitch and then maybe, just maybe he can persuade General Lucassimo to handle IJ: TAS. T'would be sublime.
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But like someone else here said; it ain't gonna happen.
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Dec 23, 2008 2:22:56 PM CST
FYI: The Fleisher Superman cartoons are on archive.org.
by royston lodge
I downloaded 'em for my neices and nephews.
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That interview was a podcast called The Force-Cast with host Jason Swank. A great Star Wars podcast, too, by the way.
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...a shitty CG version. Don't do it Paul... do you really want your good geek cred stained by the spooge of Lucas? Don't let them rape you, Dini!
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its not really fleisher (more bluth probably!) but i love it!
http://tinyurl.com/94a29u
Patrick Schoenmaker
this pic just made me want animated indy even more i know it will be shit but this pic would sell it to me! -
just dont give me Crytal Meth err... i mean skulls
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This could be great.
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Shave all the contestants heads and throw them in a colorless room that goes on for miles.
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It's coming...
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Just make sure George Lucas is hands off and Paul Dini has complete artistic control.
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...to DIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Absolutely agree with your assessment of Morrison ruining Dini's run on Det Com. Those first few issues with JH Williams III were brilliant. DC should've thrown so much money at that team.
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While the writing on those Fleischer toons wasn't hot shit, the art was amazing and very able to convey adventure and excitement with its careful drawings and increased depth. Indy would be well-served with that. But I don't see the connection between Fleischer's Superman and BTAS which had style but nowhere near the feeling of depth.
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That's fucking awesome! Where did that come from?
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"Forgive my ignorance, but why would it be offensive for there to be Nazi bad guys all the time?" For the same reason you never saw an animated version of the Red Skull with a swastika. Its not a matter of people actually taking offense. Its a matter of pussy network execs who are afraid someone will take offense, cause a media stink, create bad PR, and cause a loss in ad revenue or merchandise sales.
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And makes it happen. And give Dini complete creative control. That dude has a track record for not fucking shit up. Giving him free rein to create a series of amazing Indiana Jones stories would be so awesome.
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Add some graphic violence here and there ala the films with that classic Fleischer style...Wow. That could be the coolest animated series in history (right behind the original Johnny Quest).
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What movie is the new "Harry" corner animation a reference to?
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then count me sold.
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then this would indeed be chocked full of gold and WIN! 1hr episodes, very high quality hand drawn ANIMATION...and fun yet not dumbed down story lines...would make this a classic...and there is SO MUCH potential story material...endless actually.
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Seriously..tell us where that came from.
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Dec 23, 2008 8:21:02 PM CST
Only if BRUCE TIMM, ALAN BURNETT, and ERIC RADOMSKI are involved
by nivekj
That's it. 2000-F*%k-My-Eyeballs-9 is almost here. Oh, and Indy 4 rocked, f*%k the haters.
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that would be really fucking cool
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"Indy i wuv you!" "I love you to kid, now drop your pants and bend over." "Why Indy!" "Cause i'm going to tear me up some youngin' anus." And so Shorty's asian a-hole was opened while Indy's veiny cock flopped out, with year-old pube bush around it and nudged itself inside the tight shpincter. Shorty then shook abit at the massive load of semen just pumped into him. Indy looked at his own slimey cock "SNAKES!!! I HATE SNAKES!!!!!!!!!!"
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where it was you as indys nephew going along for the ride. i would LOVE to see those stories animated.
Indiana Jones and the Love Treasure of Sheba, etc etc. they could take all those books break them down into like 2 or 3 episodes per book and there is your series for like 2 years. its damn near perfect for kids. -
treasure. no love lost.
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thats what they were called. just like choose your own adventure. look em up. great 80s shit right there as a kid.
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...and they've had Indiana Jones Nazi (I'm sorry, "German") bad guy action figures for sale for months now with no complaints. No swastikas, obviously. I just think you'd need Nazis (or, "Germans") for an effective Indy story in that era, since all the Indy films that didn't have Nazis sucked to varying degrees. We also recently learned that Cold War Soviets are a poor substitute. None of this matters anyway, this is never gonna happen.
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Not connected to this project, but it's an idea of Indiana Jones as an animated cartoon!
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Dec 23, 2008 11:52:19 PM CST
As long as Dini doesn't use the stupid style he has already!
by bob cryptonight
That shit is nothing like Fleischer. Those characters had realism. Dini's crap looks horrible with those giant jaws and skinny waists. Christ, Popeye is more realistic. Makes THE SUPER FRIENDS look like FANTASIA.
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H.P Lovecraft wrote a story about Houdini fell into a trap into the depths of undiscovered egyptian pyramids and had to escape using his great skill.
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The art design was by Bruce Timm.That Fleischer-style was achieved via rotoscoping, which is a controversial practice in animation.
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the animation in the first few seasons of BTAS was meant to hearken back to Fleischer, minus the use of rotoscoping.
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That was one of my favorite parts of "Indy IV." The allusions to Indy's war record and exploits in Europe and the Pacific. I would love to see THOSE adventures in some form.
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if you want to see some brilliantly done Indy animated artwork, google a chap named Patrick Schoenmaker. Visit his blogspot and drool yourself silly. Be sure to look down the entire length of the page to see all his designs. Brilliant.
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I surprized myself by still not having seen the last Indiana Jones Movie..
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