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MyNetworkTV Pulls
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MyNetworkTV is clobbering The CW, and it’s using CW castoff “WWE Smackdown” to facilitate the pummel. From The Associated Press:
NEW YORK – For the past three weeks, the upstart My Network TV has accomplished something that would have been considered unthinkable just two years ago. The network, quickly cobbled together by a group of Fox-owned local stations after the 2006 merger of the WB and UPN into the new CW left abandoned stations with nothing to put on the air, has averaged more prime-time viewers than the CW.
Another factor is soapy CW series like “90210” and “Gossip Girl” don’t do well in repeats. The network meanwhile continues to develop similar shows like a sequel to "Melrose Place." Read all of the AP’s story on the matter here.

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  • Dec. 22, 2008, 4:02 p.m. CST

    what channel now?

    by Bob C. Cock

    i have no idea what mynetworktv is...

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 4:03 p.m. CST

    wow

    by THE KNIGHT

    who woulda thought?

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 4:09 p.m. CST

    Serves them right...

    by TOASTERslayer

    Ok, maybe I'm just still bitter about Veronica Mars being cancelled (and lord knows VM wouldn't have helped the ratings) but the network still sucks. Its kind of funny that they had hopes of competing with the big 4 networks. No way thats ever gonna happen while they are branding themselves toward teen girls. That group just don't have the numbers and the content rarely has critical appeal.

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 4:11 p.m. CST

    BRING

    by RaveX

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 4:12 p.m. CST

    BACK

    by RaveX

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 4:12 p.m. CST

    VERONICA

    by RaveX

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 4:12 p.m. CST

    MARS

    by RaveX

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 4:12 p.m. CST

    ,

    by RaveX

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 4:12 p.m. CST

    I watch Gossip Girl

    by mefrog

    Yep. I WATCH GOSSIP GIRL. And I think it's damn good writing, considering it's a show about rich teens bitching about their trivial problems.

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 4:12 p.m. CST

    YOU

    by RaveX

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 4:12 p.m. CST

    DAMN

    by RaveX

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 4:13 p.m. CST

    FRAKKIN'

    by RaveX

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 4:13 p.m. CST

    IDIOTS

    by RaveX

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 4:13 p.m. CST

    !

    by RaveX

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 4:14 p.m. CST

    telenovelas

    by Dradis Contact

    It looks like mynetworktv learned the lesson about telenovelas that the CW has failed to learn. It's a shame though because some of those women on those telenovelas were hot.

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 4:14 p.m. CST

    btw, please don't cancel Supernatural.

    by RaveX

    and damn you mefrog!

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 4:16 p.m. CST

    privileged

    by Dradis Contact

    And then every episode of "Privileged" is more rich people shaming everyone into finally understanding that poor people don't understand how hard it is to be rich.

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 4:27 p.m. CST

    Network TV is dying

    by The Pelti

    How many people actually sit down to watch an entire evening of programming on one network anymore. I know I have my 3 or 4 shows that I keep up with, but monstly, I just ask my friend "the internet" to record them for me so I can watch them later in the week, on a night when I'm not doing anything. Its tough to find anything worthwhile in the endless sea of Cop/Lawyer/Doctor procedurals that infest network television. Since Veronica Mars was cancelled, I've pretty much stayed away from the CW, although Reaper was stupid fun.

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 4:48 p.m. CST

    That's kinda like one retard being 'smarter' than another

    by br1947

    I still dispute either of them being called "networks"

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 5:01 p.m. CST

    Does MyTV even have any other original shows?

    by Kurutteru Yatsu

    Other than Smackdown all I see is syndicated stuff like Oprah and Access Hollywood with a couple of random Canadian shows tossed in. "Two full hours of 'Corner Gas?' BRING IT ON."

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 5:21 p.m. CST

    The Knight

    by Alkeoholic77

    The only reason UPN and CW really got any exposure was because of wrestling. Like it or hate it wrestling is still pretty popular still. The CW was stupid to get rid of it in the first place.

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 5:45 p.m. CST

    CW has two shows...that's it.

    by vadakinX

    Forget 90210, the CW only has two shows that gets anywhere near ok ratings - Smallville and Supernatural. <p> Smallville has been crap for the last 4 years (though it has improved this season) and is likely to finish either this season or next. While CW are preparing a Martian Manhunter spin-off, it's unlikely to be as popular due to the lack of brand recognition that MM has compared to Superman plus MM is likely to be a more mature show in that it won't be aimed at teenage girls. <p> Supernatural is a pretty good show with some smart writing. If it was on ABC, NBC or Fox it would be a big ratings puller. However while it's one of CW's top rated shows, it suffers, like Smallville, due to the small budget...though it has achieved quite a lot with that budget which is a credit to the people behind it. <p> Smallville is almost done, Supernatural doesn't get the ratings it should be getting...so what are you left with? 90210. No idea how that's doing ratings wise but once Smallville is gone, if the Manhunter spin off doesn't take off it could be the final nail in the coffin and not even Supernatural will be able to save it.

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 6:01 p.m. CST

    Next they'll beat NBC?

    by snowpuff

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 6:02 p.m. CST

    There are millions of people without cable or satellite

    by snowpuff

    Truly.

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 6:12 p.m. CST

    CW thanks for cancelling Veronica Mars

    by Stormwatcher

    Cuz her stint on Heroes blew and VM was my only reason for watching your channel. Now your channel is the one HD channel I don't pay for and am quite happy about. You also cancelled something else i liked, crap what was it? Oh well, you guys suck.

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 6:14 p.m. CST

    VADAKINX: Not really a Martian Manhunter show but

    by Stormwatcher

    It will be a spin off of the Legion of Superheroes with MM playing their guide, fatherly type. How do I know? I don't but my guess is pretty good eh?

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 6:29 p.m. CST

    If I Was In a 1940s Cartoon...

    by Jonas Grumpy

    ...I'd read this news, announce, "Now I've seen everything," put a gun to my temple, and fire. <BR><BR>They just don't make cartoons like that anymore.

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 6:59 p.m. CST

    Do these channels even exist?

    by jimmy_009

    I wouldn't know how to watch them if I wanted to.

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 7 p.m. CST

    Yeah, but Supernatural is awesome.

    by Mahaloth

    Everything else on CW is horrible.

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 7:33 p.m. CST

    Ever Since The CW Cancelled Veronica Mars....

    by arzbest

    I've watched nothing on the CW and have no intention of doing so in the future. Unless, of course, they bring back Veronica.

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 7:34 p.m. CST

    I had chili for lunch.

    by Godovhellfire

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 10 p.m. CST

    I like MyNetworkTV...

    by Helpful Electronic Lab Partner Robot

    WUAB/43 (Cleveland) carries it here is and there's no question that I prefer it to their decade or so as a UPN provider. Why? Quite simple, really: It makes the primary UHF station of my youth feel like a UHF station again!<br> <br> The 2 main UHF stations here (WBNX being the other) always maintained this fun, unique vibe. Even after we got cable, I watched them a lot... Everything from their newscasts to primetime programming to commercials felt low budget, but it was okay because it never gave off the impersonal vibe that the big national stuff did. It felt... local.<br> <br> Unfortunately, it was totally ruined when they began to carry the WB & UPN's wannabe programming. The personal touch was gone, AND the quality of the network as a whole never even approached the competition. <br> <br> MNTV never feels like it's trying to be a 'big fish', while the CW does. And I (and a lot of others I guess) just aren't going to buy that. I can't speak for anyone else, but I'll take Rocky 4, Tron, and Twilight Zone reruns over first-run CW programming any day of the week!

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 10:25 p.m. CST

    This brings to mind the Special Olympics joke...

    by catlettuce4

    ...even if you win you're still retarded.

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 10:48 p.m. CST

    How long until a MARRIED WITH CHILDREN...

    by Negative Man

    <p>...'sequel' with Bud grown up, in a failed marriage and forced to move back home with Al and Peg. Kelly will only make guest appearances since she's an actual success as a model. So she would be replaced by Bud's ex-wife who Peg has taken a liking to and has rented Kelly's old room to. Marcy and Jefferson are still living next door. There savings lost because of the financial crisis and are living on less money than the Bundy's are. Which left Al in a particular happy place...at least until Bud and his ex are moved in and he realizes that he's...</p><p>...(wait for it)...</p><p>...STILL MARRIED...WITH CHILDREN.</p>

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 11:30 p.m. CST

    Yeah but privileged...

    by Brishadow

    Has Lucy Hale :D

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 11:31 p.m. CST

    WWE Snackdown

    by therobcat

    That's what's up. WWE left CW for MNTV. BODY SLAM!!!

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 11:32 p.m. CST

    I meant Smackdown

    by therobcat

    But I like Snackdown much better.

  • Better than more MELROSE PLACE, anyway. BRING BACK SITCOMS ALREADY!

  • Dec. 23, 2008, 12:03 a.m. CST

    how long is WWE's contract with MNTV

    by Bloo

    2, 3 years? Then are they going to get CW to take them back for more money ala the SPIKE-TV(at the time the formere The Nashville Network aka The National Network) back to USA deal

  • Dec. 23, 2008, 1:13 a.m. CST

    Winning ratings with WRESTLING is nothing to brag about.

    by Bob Cryptonight

    It's kind of like bragging about screwing a retarded girl.

  • Dec. 23, 2008, 1:54 a.m. CST

    Well, so much for The Wrestler..

    by UMAGA

    Seemed to have no impact around here.

  • Dec. 23, 2008, 3:41 a.m. CST

    "Thats funny, I've never seen garbage eat garbage before."

    by Bass Ackwards

    Hurm.

  • Dec. 23, 2008, 5:27 a.m. CST

    I would defiantly watch that MARRIED... WITH CHILDREN sequel!

    by grklevendis

  • Dec. 23, 2008, 7:03 a.m. CST

    C-SPAN Pulls Ahead of CW in the Ratings

    by TVguy4566

    Seriously, does anyone actually watch the CW. I watch Reaper and that is it.

  • Dec. 23, 2008, 7:25 a.m. CST

    In other news Moxie pulled ahead of New Coke

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    in a taste test.

  • Dec. 23, 2008, 7:27 a.m. CST

    Bass Ackwards, yes props to Superman II

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    Nuff said.

  • Dec. 23, 2008, 8:55 a.m. CST

    The CW has SMALLVILLE and...SMALLVILLE

    by SpyGuy

    Blah, blah, SUPERNATURAL...whatever. Give me a decent DC Comics series (HINT: No "teen dramas") featuring The Flash, Nightwing, the Doom Patrol...or even better, something Warren Ellis-related like Global Frequency or Planetary and I'll watch. Otherwise, my attention span is fair game.

  • Dec. 23, 2008, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Indeed.

    by RAVENL0RD

    Indeed. It is only fitting that WWE helps MyNetworkTV become a viable entity since it basically did the same for UPN. In all reality, though, does anybody watch either of these channels except for when WWE is on?

  • Dec. 23, 2008, 10:25 a.m. CST

    I worked at a station that switched from The WB to MNTV

    by Cheif Brody

    The second we lost the CW affiliate-ship to the OTHER local independent station in our the market (Tampa), I bailed. I saw MNTV's line up of crappy telenovela remakes and thought "This thing is doomed". <p> Glad to see MNTV's hangin in there...I figured the merger of UPN/WB would amount to a hill of beans...but I thought it would be a bigger bean hill than this! The fact is...you just can't ever count out Rupert Murdoch. <p> In this economy, tho...not a good thing to be the lowest network on the totem pole! It would not surprise me if one or both of these two 'net-lets'...are forced to fold up their tent due to budget cuts and layoffs. <p> But, what people have said here...about the American TV Viewing Habits changing forever...Internet...DVR...Tivo...Dead on. The networks are all gonna have to come up with a way to get us to watch LIVE 'over the air' broadcasts again...contests & giveaways that you have to be watching live to be eligible for...Otherwise...this whole mess is gonna go subscriber only access...and the only "FREE TV" yer gonna get will be PBS & C-Span. Watch. <p> BTW...That fuckin Married with Children sequel idea? Seriously? Of all the 'remake'/'reboot' plans I've heard of this year...that's the best one yet. Seein Al & Peg as grandparents? A whole new slew of 'children' to fend off. Bud still livin at home? The dog's still alive? <p> Good luck getting Christina Applegate to come back for it...Better wait til Samantha Who gets the axe...which should be soon.

  • Dec. 23, 2008, 11:01 a.m. CST

    bloo

    by the new transported man

    Actually, when WWE Raw moved from SpikeTV back to USA, the deal was worth less than the previous USA deal. Before they moved to SpikeTV, WWE was getting a big cut of the ad $ from Raw; now USA gets it all, which is the standard model.

  • Dec. 23, 2008, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Legend of the Seeker

    by yodaismyhomie

    is the only reason why I watch MNTV. It's not great, but it's not terrible either.

  • The original ran 11 friggin' seasons for a reason.

  • Dec. 23, 2008, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Does your MNTV switch to THIS movies

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Where such classics as Delrious with John Candy and the Mickey Rourke/Anthony Hopikins/Michael Cimino remake of the Desperate Hours is played almost non-stop. I think they're also having some 90's Lemmon/Matthau flicks too (like Gone to Sea).

  • Dec. 23, 2008, 4 p.m. CST

    I don't even get this channel

    by bodyslam911

    but a FOX affiliate shows a couple a shows a day late night but not in HD even though I have the HD channel

  • Dec. 23, 2008, 4:38 p.m. CST

    Negative Man: Good pitch

    by snowpuff

    I never even liked Married With Children, but that's a solid pitch. Nicely set up for a long term series of stories and situations. I believe almost all of the actors would be available.

  • Dec. 23, 2008, 4:44 p.m. CST

    Battle of the Dumont Networks!

    by JT Kirk

    How is it possible that the poorly-named "MyNetworkTV" is getting ratings? And that shitworks UPN and the WB combined to make a far worse network that spawned yet ANOTHER mini-network to fight with? Fuck, network TV has gone off the rails when the unwatchable network with no content is getting ratings.

  • Dec. 23, 2008, 5:06 p.m. CST

    It's all my fault.

    by Billy Goat

    I watch those magic shows.<p>Looking at the listings, I see MyNetwork is showing the Keanu Reeves version of BABES IN TOYLAND tonight. It sounds cheese-tastic!

  • Dec. 23, 2008, 6:50 p.m. CST

    I don't get a MyNetworkTV affiliate...

    by F-18

    The WB station became the CW and the UPN station changed to FOX. <p> There are two My NetworkTV stations around where I live, should my cable company decide to carry one. I don't know why they don't.

  • Dec. 23, 2008, 9:19 p.m. CST

    I blame Smackdown

    by filmcans

    FEAR THE POWER OF WORLD WRESTLING ENTERTAINMENT!!!

  • Dec. 23, 2008, 9:28 p.m. CST

    the new transported man

    by Bloo

    really, I didn't know that, interesting, I figured McMahon went back to USA for big bucks

  • Dec. 23, 2008, 9:52 p.m. CST

    I finally get it. Herc is mad because the CW cancelled Angel.

    by Cotton McKnight

    He is mad because they cancelled Angel (or some other show). Therefore, he doesn't give us any information on their shows, unless they are failing in the ratings, or if the CW is failing in general. Oh and also because Supernatural is a far superior show to anything Joss Whedon came up with.

  • Dec. 23, 2008, 9:55 p.m. CST

    Post Script

    by Cotton McKnight

    I meant to say UPN or the WB- whichever station was carrying his beloved show. Hey, I am completely capable of watching something on NBC if it's good, even though they cancelled Freaks & Geeks. It happens.

  • Dec. 23, 2008, 9:58 p.m. CST

    Samuel Fulmer:

    by Dollar Bird

    They have been playing"Out To Sea" a lot, haven't they? I love that ad where they're like, "Look at all these stars," you I'm like, "But, wait, what movie is that?" and then MyTV is like, "Whatever," and I'm like, "No, YOU whatever!"

  • Dec. 23, 2008, 11:36 p.m. CST

    Sing along with me: We got it all on UHF!

    by Royston Lodge

    'nuff said.

  • Dec. 24, 2008, 2:25 a.m. CST

    Magic's Biggest Secrets Finally Revealed

    by AlwaysThere

    That's the #1 reason for their success.

  • Dec. 24, 2008, 11:03 a.m. CST

    Cotton McKnight is wrong about Whedon

    by filmstu2005

    Supernatural is not better than Joss Whedon's buffy or angel. R u f**** kidding? The only comparison made is the dark supernatural aspect of it. But no way is a show like Supernatural better than anything joss Whedon has put out. Whedon is a TV genius. He knows how to tell compelling storylines which is why he's a highly acclaimed filmmaker. In no way shape or form am I a fanatic, cause i didnt like his Buffy season 6 & 7, but if Joss Whedon was the creator of Supernatural, the show would be loads better than it already is. Oh, and what's this I hear about the Smallville Martian Manhunter spin-off? I need more information. Is the League of Superheroes regulars on the show? I think it'd be cool, since MM is a detective, and have him solve paranormal cases each week. Someone point me in the right direction to find out more...

  • Dec. 24, 2008, 10:43 p.m. CST

    Legend of the Seeker is

    by teethgnasher

    the perfect reason to heat up a frozen pizza and relax. Simple stuff.

  • Dec. 24, 2008, 10:59 p.m. CST

    did CW cancel angel?

    by Mr_X

    was it on the wb? veronica mars, solid show, angel season 5 it was hitting full stride and they let it go. bunch of flipping idiots. IT's not too late for global frequency!

  • Dec. 24, 2008, 11:02 p.m. CST

    Legend of the Seeker is syndicated, not MyNetwork

    by br1947

    It just happens to fall on alot of those stations because they have time to fill. I'm glad they finally got it on Hulu because my local affiliate apparently hires kids from the local ARC to run their master control. Nothing like watching half the show and hitting color bars...

  • Dec. 24, 2008, 11:06 p.m. CST

    Married with Children sequel does sound kinda good...

    by br1947

    But I can never look at Peggy Bundy the same way again after watching her smash in a chick's face with a skateboard on Sons of Anarchy. That bitch is crazy! lol

  • Dec. 25, 2008, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Married with Children...

    by Alkeoholic77

    Let's get an actual final episode first and then let's talk about a spin off. That "Final episode" that they ran was bullshit.

  • Dec. 26, 2008, 8:27 p.m. CST

    Married with children sequel

    by Poloboy

    That was a very clever idea for a Married with Children follow-up/sequel. If you had connections you could pitch it to Fox. Just like the movie studios, tv networks like the fact that your idea already has a "built-in audience", plus name-recognition. None of the actors are terribly busy and maybe would consider it.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 2:34 a.m. CST

    Sorry Filmstu2005, you are Whedon fanatic.

    by Anthony W

    ....and their is nothing in Supernatual that Whedon would be able to improve upon.

  • Dec. 27, 2008, 2:41 a.m. CST

    meant to say "there"

    by Anthony W

    Man, I really have to stop posting at night.

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