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UPDATE!!! FORBIDDEN PLANET Story Details Emerge!! Now With James Cameron News!! Not One But Three Movies?? And More!!

Merrick again... El Mayimbe over at Latino Review confirms that Cameron has looked through Straczynski's FORBIDDEN PLANET script and "flipped" for the current draft. Mayimbe also has more information on macro plans for FORBIDDEN PLANET. Turns out, we're not looking at merely a prequel here...but possibly a trilogy/franchise.
Movie One tells the story of the original ship that came to Altair 4. Movie Two tells the story of the search for the Krell by the captain of the Bellerophon and his Diana continues to grow into something profoundly other-wordly. The search takes them beyond the limits of known space into other dimensions, passing from what's known into what's not. Movie Three tells the story of the second ship to arrive at Altair 4 to investigate what happened to the Bellerophon. They discover Morbius and his "daughter," who is desperate to get off the planet and out into the rest of the universe, where her power would nearly be god-like...a fate we are spared when Morbius sacrifices his life to keep her there and eliminate the Krell homeworld once and for all.
...says THIS REPORT at Latino Review. So, they're basically taking the FORBIDDEN PLANET mythos and shaping it into THE MARTIAN CHRONICLES? There are more details over at LR - check 'em out...


Merrick here...
IESB has some story details on Silver/Straczynski/Cameron's(?) FORBIDDEN PLANET... We've been told several times this isn't a sequel or a remake. So, what exactly is it? Turns out, the answer is shamefully...almost embarrassingly...obvious to anyone who has seen the original film. Seems the new FORBIDDEN PLANET is a prequel, chronicling mankind's first journey to Altair 4. I.e. "The Bellerophon Expedition" referenced in the 1956 movie. Right down to Dr.s Edward and Diana Morbius. Which also means: given the Belleraphon crew's started fate, this film could end up being rather apocalyptic in nature. Read more details...


Straczynski has repeatedly indicated the new FP will not appear "retro". But, given that it's set a significant while before the original FORBIDDEN PLANET, wouldn't some level of "retro" seem mandated? Or, will established design conceits be summarily dismissed here? Or, are we supposed to believe that the self-maintenancing Krell infrisrtructure opted to give itself a retro makeover after the Bellerophon crew's apparent extermination? If anyone out there knows anything else about this project, DROP ME A LINE! Geeky curiosity is getting the best of me now & I'm becoming increasingly unable to repress both cynicism and curiosity...

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  • Dec. 20, 2008, 9:44 a.m. CST


    by Velcron the persistent

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 9:44 a.m. CST


    by weaponx31


  • Dec. 20, 2008, 9:49 a.m. CST


    by abn3r p3pp3r72

    For Leslie Nielsen.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 9:50 a.m. CST

    danger will robinson..

    by firehawk_thexder

    but will robbie the robot look the same?

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 9:53 a.m. CST

    I'm OK with it...

    by Etrigan_

    Looks like Silver and Straczynski are using the trend in remaking every movie ever made to get a mostly original sci fi movie made. Just depends if they have a good story to tell...I'm withholding judgement

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 9:56 a.m. CST

    if cameron does this

    by alice 13

    kiss the stracz guy's script goodbye. lol.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 9:56 a.m. CST

    For the love of God stop the remakes/reboots

    by Barmat

    Is Holywwod completely devoid of creativity?

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 10:09 a.m. CST

    they do this Prequel then....

    by j2talk

    if its successful they will remake the original....

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 10:10 a.m. CST

    The beginning sounds really cliched.

    by TVguy4566

    Why would they use a tired sci-fi plot devise to try not to screw with the original. I don't know if anyone who would be upset with doing a remake, reimagination, sequel, or prequels will be happy that the fimmakers are going to what looks to be silly lengths to not screw with the original. Especially since if this prequel is a huge hit, they are going to remake the original anyway as a sequel to this movie.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 10:19 a.m. CST

    Why make it retro?

    by yodaismyhomie

    Seriously...perhaps it is to be a prequel....then again...perhaps it's a "prequel" in that if it's not successful they just leave it alone, but if it is successful than can then remake the original as a sequel...I smell new franchise concept here.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 10:20 a.m. CST

    Remake movies while they're still warm

    by Barmat

    I think Wall needs a live action remake.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 10:20 a.m. CST

    Wll the crew of Bellerophon be

    by kabong


  • Dec. 20, 2008, 10:31 a.m. CST

    I vote retro

    by Richie_Rich

    I don't know, I've thought for a long time that a prequel using the same production design as the original would be great. And have a meaningful story to tell (the vanguard of humanities hopes and dreams colliding with our basest instincts). Anyway, I once asked Leslie Nielsen how many scripts for FP remakes he'd seen and he said, "around 4,000".

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Okay, that's not as bad as it could've been !

    by RobinP

    There are some films that should never be remade, ever. This is one of them. But if we're talking prequel here - then my recurring nightmare isn't AS bad, and it could well end up being an almost "Aliens"-esque seige movie. I can live with that, because I don't have to live with notions of a re-imagined cruiser C57D or Robby.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 10:39 a.m. CST

    Not a story screaming out for a prequel guys...

    by Drath

    Make a movie built around a similar theme as the backstory of Forbidden Planet--THAT I could get. But I thought the backstory was there to enhance the atmosphere and suspense of the original movie--not to enable a franchise. And I'm not convinced it lends itself over to that without be so reworked that it might as well be billed as something NEW. At what point will they get hungry for new properties in Hollywood? Did imagination skip a generation of writers, or did vision skip a generation of producers?

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 10:51 a.m. CST

    Instead of the constant stream of remakes

    by Kneprock

    how about adapting some of Peter F Hamilton's works into movies. I think that the Nights Dawn trilogy would make a hell of a franchise.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 10:51 a.m. CST

    With a bit of make-up

    by sean bean

    Leslie Nielsen could play the same character. OK, a LOT of make-up

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 10:54 a.m. CST

    what a laugh

    by haywood

    Lets expand it even further. Have a film that is just the journey of the second ship before it reaches Altair 4. What a waste of time. The first film has mystery letting your imagination fill in the gaps. Now we have to have all our gaps and holes filled by these Hollywood porn directors who do not have enough imagination to write a new story or their own. A waste of money. I am sure the mysterious Krell will be making a nice big CGI appearance.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 10:59 a.m. CST

    If Cameron is looking at work by JMS...

    by Stroker_Ace

    he should give Rising Stars a read - especially if he's looking to get involved in some sort of trilogy.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 11 a.m. CST stoked!!

    by Uncle_Pooch

    Cameron it will fuck our retinas or something

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 11:01 a.m. CST

    It's All Very Convoluted, No?

    by cowboyone

    I wouldn't see one of these, never mind three. This sounds like dragging the Day the Earth Stood Still out to three films.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 11:02 a.m. CST

    Cameron Loves This Type of "Abyss" Stuff

    by cowboyone

    Problem is, no one else really does. (I was going to go for the easy "Abyss-mal" joke but...)

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 11:02 a.m. CST

    jms is just pissed off

    by bacci40

    2 tv series stole his rising stars concept and he hasnt seen dollar one...this is his revenge

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 11:06 a.m. CST

    I want Garabaldi and Londo in this

    by picardsucks

    Actually sounds pretty fucking cool Throw Garabaldi and Londo a bone

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 11:11 a.m. CST


    by dr.bulber

    my god its full of letdown.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Forbidden planet...

    by emeraldboy

    was remake of shakespeares the tempest. It was a one off movie. it was never met to be sequlised or prequelised.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 11:22 a.m. CST

    Who cares when Avatar will.....bwhahahahaha

    by Bill Clay

    Sorry, I couldn't type that without cracking up. The Ava-tards make Trekkies look cool.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Cameron ruled in the 1980s..

    by emeraldboy

    with the Macho/testerone blockbuster movies when arnie and sly and bruce were king. That was when regan was in the oval office. Mctiernan was the second best action director working in Hollywood in the 1990s. Talkbakers hate the director whos name ryhmes with Pay. I hope for camerons sake that Avatar rips apart the box office and is a mega ton smash. I am not sure as I havent seen any footage yet. Cameron should leave the forbidden planet alone. Here is an idea. I think Cameron should set up a new studio. His goal should be to make it a home for original filmmakers. He should first of all set up some sort bursary prize for short story writers. then commission new filmmakers to make these stories and so on. He should get all the best people in the industry to teach these film students things like editing, sound, producion and design. But he should showed them old ways of doing things like his mentors Roger Corman and the late great Stan Winston. First of all though. I think somebody somewhere should honour the memory of Forrest J ackerman. and Oliver Postgate.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 11:45 a.m. CST

    This will never happen,

    by CharyouTree

    Sounds to intelligent for Hollywood, maybe a T.V series.<p> And as for Avatar, the scriptment I have makes me look forward to it, sorry if that annoys people.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 11:46 a.m. CST

    not a bad idea but please don't call it Forbidden Planet

    by Gorgomel

    This could lead to a great trilogy of its own. No need to bring back Robby, it would be ridiculous or upset fan of the original (Gort anyone?)

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Umm that idea sucks ass!!!

    by Dark Doom

    The original big budget sci-fi movie of all time -Forbidden Planet-Was based on "The Tempest", and that was the theme. Robby was the sprite, the Doctor was the Prospero. The Tempest Characters Study Guides Hamlet Julius Caesar King Henry IV King Lear Macbeth Merchant of Venice Othello Romeo and Juliet The Tempest Twelfth Night Trivia Authorship Bard Facts Bibliography Biography FAQ Films Globe Theatre Pictures Quiz Timeline Visitor Survey Click here! The Tempest Characters guide studies each character's role and motivation in this play. Prospero: The main character of this play, Prospero used to be the legitimate Duke of Milan. Unfortunately his treacherous brother Antonio stole his title and banished Prospero to a Mediterranean island with his daughter Miranda. A great lover of the arts and in particular books, Prospero has harnessed the powers of magic whilst in exile. Miranda: Prospero's daughter. Attractive and young at the tender age of fifteen years, Miranda has lived with her father in exile for twelve years. Aside from her father, she has seen few men in her life, and quickly enchants the shipwrecked Ferdinand. Ariel: An airy spirit, Ariel serves his master Prospero well in his many tasks of magic on Prospero's island. Once enslaved by a witch, Ariel wants his freedom now from Prospero. At the conclusion of this play Ariel is made free. While I have great respect for both Straczynski, and Cameron, this idea or concept is just fucking stupid.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 11:56 a.m. CST

    fucking edit fuck

    by Dark Doom

    can we have an edit function?

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 12:05 p.m. CST

    Cameron needs to make Battle Angel first!

    by Hatter

    I'm starting to worry. It's bad enough that Cameron wants to direct that diver biopic after AVATAR, but I don't want to see Battle Angel get pushed back any further! He HAS to make that film.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 12:13 p.m. CST

    Think about this

    by Jodet

    The original Star Trek was about 80% FP rip-off, right down to the sound effects, uniforms and set design. This is an opportunity to re-boot into a 'Star Trek' like Universe that is familiar, but really a blank slate. The spin-offs and sequel and book and comic book and model and action-figure potential here is endless.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 12:18 p.m. CST

    Sounds like that one ST episode

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    where they tried to go beyond the galaxy, went into a weird energy field, Kirk's friend (Mitchell?) and a Doctor chick get super psychic powers and Kirks friend gets corrupted by the power.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 12:20 p.m. CST

    oh, and

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    I would preorder my tickets today if I could

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 12:21 p.m. CST

    The only question that matters...

    by MetalMickey

    Will they still be wearing those "Space Caps"?

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Who Cares...

    by Jaws Wayne

    When some A.I.C.N. talkbacker will tell us again no one cares about this but Avatar will screw our eyeballs ? Can someone shoot that kid for me ? It would make my Christmas a good one, thanks.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 1 p.m. CST

    Cameron's head grows 3 sizes!

    by Orionsangels

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 1:12 p.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    The Abyss is a magnificent piece of filmmaking. If you can't see that you really are blind.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 1:25 p.m. CST

    Cameron's 2001

    by The_Myhand

    Sounds like Cameron will be venturing into 2001 territory with this...I can't for Battle Angel...he can leave the anime alone for all I care...maybe just because I hate anime

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 1:25 p.m. CST

    Remake it? Fine. Make a prequel? Okay. But a TRILOGY?

    by Nosferatu Jones

    I love the original FORBIDDEN PLANET, and am, of course, wary of any type of remake, but Jesus Christ, who the HELL was asking for a new TRILOGY based on FP? There's just no call for it, and leave it to Hollywood to want to fill in all the mysterious "blanks" from the original. God forbid we use our imaginations.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 1:33 p.m. CST


    by SkidMarkedUndies


  • Dec. 20, 2008, 1:39 p.m. CST

    The silver dress in the original created my fetish problem

    by Stormwatcher

    for silver dresses. Christ that chick was hot. I remember wanting to nail her

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 1:43 p.m. CST

    A PREQUEL before a SEQUEL? That's CRAZY!!!

    by Missing Dink

    And let's not judge the quality of a story nobody has even read yet. The first two movies could be great and stand completely on their own as so many other movies do.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 1:49 p.m. CST

    This sounds amazing, stop complaining

    by bullet3

    There is a criminal lack of good sci-fi movies being made these days (the genre has seriously almost died out), and here we have the master of sci-fi planning to give us not one, but THREE movies. I trust Cameron, and if he's stoked over the script, then that means its gonna be good. This is fantastic news guys.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 1:56 p.m. CST

    SPOILER alert, fellas

    by Vern

    Hopefully I will forget that I know the ending of part 3 when it comes out in 46 years. But who cares when DIE HARD REVOLUTIONS 2 VS. BLADE is fucking our implants in 2054?

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Writers somehow think "trilogy" = important/classic

    by Bob Cryptonight

    Very few trilogies are ever required by the source material.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Are they kidding?!

    by Skyway Moaters

    The original, excellently made "Forbidden Planet" was a fairly accurate and quite brilliant in many ways, adaptation of Shakespeare's "The Tempest". All this crap about Diana's "godlike powers" and Morbius "sacrificing himself" is a complete abomination of the source material, and obviously a shameless attempt at establishing a derivative "cash cow" franchise. Absolutely disgusting.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 2:01 p.m. CST

    i guess i dont have to see part 3

    by alice 13


  • Dec. 20, 2008, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Is Cameron thinking about directing this, or just producing?

    by TurdontheRun

    'Cause if he is.. er, what's going to happen? Avatar pushed back to 2011? Battle Angel for 2025? The Dive for 2046? Avatar and Battle Angel sequels for the year 2162? Forbidden Planet trilogy sometime in the fifth millenium? Not to mention 250 odd excursions to the bottom of the ocean and on NASA flights into space he might want to make as well. He might as well solve the mystery of the pyramids, the fate of atlantis, colonise Pluto, and find Lord Lucan while he's at it. Cameron 'll need to cryogenically freeze himself like Walt Disney if he wants to complete all these projects!! His eyes are bigger than his stomach, as the proverbial saying goes. I've heard of ambition, but this is just taking the almighty piss!

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 2:06 p.m. CST

    C'mon, Jim. --Do that thing with our eyeballs.

    by JDanielP

    If James Cameron is interested, then I'm interested.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 2:08 p.m. CST

    If Cameron's on board...

    by photoboy

    Then so am I.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 2:14 p.m. CST

    But will JohnDough and his "friends" laugh?

    by liljuniorbrown

    I'm dying to know if they will be doing some of there famous mst3k commentary while watching this. We have to know what he thinks about this.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 2:14 p.m. CST

    If Cameron proceeds with what ...

    by Skyway Moaters rumored in this TB report, he is a shameless profit seeking HACK. Half of his existing body of work already indicates that he is, but his would irrevocably 'seal the deal'.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 2:15 p.m. CST


    by Skyway Moaters

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Avatar! Fucking Cameron's reputation in 2009!

    by IAmMrMonkey!

    Possibly. Possibly not.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 2:16 p.m. CST


    by IAmMrMonkey!

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Watch what Cameron will do in 2 days

    by SomaShine

    Cameron will issue AICN a letter saying this was all bullshit.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 2:38 p.m. CST

    Loely Theramin work. That's enough, normal view.

    by G100

    normal view, Normal View, NORMAAAL VIEEEEWWW!!!! heh.<p> <p>There's some lovely (for the time) effects shots of the saucer landing in the original but though I can see how this could be done as a Trilogy I'm not entirely sure the Krell Backstory really merits it TBH.<p> <p>Oh and a Big Screen Clangers Movie ? Hell yeah!

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 2:43 p.m. CST

    I give up, I've been beaten down by remakes

    by I Dunno

    I accept that there will always be remakes, that 1 out of 10 movies will be original so they might as well make good remakes and this is a pretty good choice for a remake, I suppose. I mean it's pretty much the precursor to Star Trek and they're remaking Star Trek so what the hell.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 2:43 p.m. CST

    *Lovely* Theramin work. heh

    by G100

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 3 p.m. CST

    in 2009...

    by emeraldboy

    it will be a decade since cameron made a movie. I know Kubrick made only a handful of films. BUt a decade. that is ridiculous. I know cameron is a perfectionist and that studio execs get his back up. If 2009 comes and goes and there is no images, no posters or no trailers for this film. ill call BS on avatar.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Forbidden Planet trilogy fucking Cameron in the ass in 2009

    by reflecto

    This will not work.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 3:19 p.m. CST

    Retro is intriguing but this sounds like shit.

    by Wonderthump

    A bizillion othe sci-fi TV movies rehashed. Unless it has a cool 50s vibe, just do something original.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 3:32 p.m. CST

    But what about Hyperion?

    by kafka07

    Now that would have made a better trilogy of films.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 3:36 p.m. CST

    Morbius's daughter was hot

    by Rupee88

    I know I should remember the name of the actress but she was sure in her prime.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 3:38 p.m. CST


    by Crow3711

    This just in...The JonDough posts got old the day after that happened. You pathetic, pathetic losers. You have inside jokes for a website about one review for an awful movie. Seriously, that is the definition of get a life. Posting "But what will JonDough think?" Do you think you are funny?

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 3:44 p.m. CST

    "Straczynski has repeatedly indicated...

    by Jaka

    ...the new FP will not appear "retro". But, given that it's set a significant while before the original FORBIDDEN PLANET, wouldn't some level of "retro" seem mandated?"<br><br> Have you seen SW Episodes I-III? Sorry, couldn't resist.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 3:47 p.m. CST

    Damn You Michael Bay


    Damn You Michael Bay

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 3:55 p.m. CST

    Dubious idea at best...dont call it FB

    by quantize


  • Dec. 20, 2008, 3:57 p.m. CST

    G100...its spelt THEREMIN dummy...

    by quantize


  • Dec. 20, 2008, 4:05 p.m. CST

    Robby will be dubbed by Drew Carey--

    by thegreatwhatzit

    That's what I heard, take it or leave it. Jesus, the original has suvived intact; the next abortion is likely to be a CITIZEN KANE remake (starring--and directed by--Sean Penn or Ryan Seacrest).

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 4:06 p.m. CST

    Anne Francis stars in Forbidden Planet

    by Gorgomel

    Wuh uh uh oh o-o-oh At the late night, double feature, picture show. I knew Leo G. Carrol Was over a barrel When Tarantula took to the hills. And I really got hot When I saw Jeanette Scott Fight a triffid that spits poison and kills. Dana Andrews said Prunes Gave him the runes And passing them used lots of skills. But When Worlds Collide, Said George Pal to his bride, "I'm gonna give you some terrible thrills," Like a... Science fiction, double feature Doctor X will build a creature. See androids fighting Brad and Janet Anne Francis stars in Forbidden Planet Wuh uh uh oh o-o-oh At the late night, double feature, picture show. I wanna go Wuh oh o-o-oh To the late night, double feature, picture show. By RKO, Wuh oh o-o-o To the late night, double feature, picture show. In the back row, Oh oh o-o-oh To the late night, double feature, picture show!

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 4:34 p.m. CST

    Nobody can get anything made unless

    by kabong

    it's attached to something already made. <P> That's just the way Hollyweird slimes.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 4:37 p.m. CST

    Doesn't Cameron have a history of flipping for scripts?

    by Xiphos_2

    Then not doing them? I thought I've read that before here on these very talkbacks.<p>Plus the sexual violation of my eyeballs in 2009 does not sound to promising nor even probably at this point since we haven't seen asecond of film to make that judgement. Eyeball fucking is just plain unhygenic.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Avatar not making back production cost in 2009!

    by Xiphos_2

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Avatar the emperor has no clothes in 2009!

    by Xiphos_2

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 4:42 p.m. CST

    That "in her prime" actress was...

    by Skyway Moaters

    Anne Francis. And come to think of it, where are they getting "Diana" from? The daughter's name in the original "Forbidden Planet" was 'Altaira'.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 4:43 p.m. CST

    Avatar repossessing king of the world status in 2009!

    by Xiphos_2

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 4:47 p.m. CST

    DOH! Gorgomel!

    by Skyway Moaters

    I thought about doing the same thing! Sorry for the redundancy. Right on with the RHPS print out.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 4:57 p.m. CST

    spoiler box?

    by BadMrWonka

    wouldn't be hard to add one fellas...that's what it's for.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 4:58 p.m. CST

    Twenty-Oh-Nine: Year of The Remakes

    by Arcangel2020

    Yayyyyyyy!! A "Reimagining"/It's not a Rebooting-Sequel-Trashing of yet another Classic Sci Fi Movie!! (Said with much sarcasim and dripping with much vitriol) Wow! You mean that it wasn't enough for "The Day Earth Stood Still" to be ruined or the host of other Remakes/Rebooting Pieces of shit to have been foisted on US the Sci-Fi/Horror Fans who don't fucking deserve this shit!! Oh noooooo, we've had to suffer through shitty remake after shitty remake with...get this...more remakes in the pipeline and being made ready to shove down out collective throats too! Let's see here...a "remake" of The Crow, Friday The Thirteenth, Nightmare on Elm Street, there is talk of Forbidden Planet getting re-done? Fucking give me a break...I don't care if Strazynski and Cameron are being mentioned

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 5:45 p.m. CST

    Ironhelix is Right

    by Diagnostic

    If they can stick stoopid Arnold in T-4: Franchise Salvation, I want Leslie Nielsen back.

  • You win the Spelling of Obscure Electronic instruments Prize.<p> <p>In fact you win the whole of the internets AND a rather handsome and hefty leather bound Dictionary to place where it will do most good. :)

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 6:41 p.m. CST

    yeah...but who really cares when...

    by The Amazing G

    Battle Angel Alita will be fucking our eyeballs in 20XX?

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 6:42 p.m. CST

    and of course who really cares when...

    by The Amazing G

    MY movies will...eventually be fucking your eyeballs in 20xx?

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 7:05 p.m. CST

    How does James Cameron get the time?

    by hallmitchell

    To read scripts right now. He must be up to his eyeballs in work with AVATAR. He's got a family. This guy must have 29 hours in the day.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 7:24 p.m. CST

    Promises promises

    by Trazadone

    Has anyone noticed that every once in a while there's a flurry of posts about James Cameron being involved in some potential project yet nothing ever emerges? Wasn't his last real film Titanic? Unless Forbidden Planet is going to be set underwater I doubt this is ever going to happen. Damn, what the hell happened to the king of the world?

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 7:39 p.m. CST

    If this TB report is accurate...

    by Skyway Moaters

    I personally don't want it to happen! Shall we all just rape Shakespeare and then laugh all the way to the bank? <p> I say NO! Fuck you James Cameron!

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 8:01 p.m. CST

    Straczynski's script for the aborted B5 movie.

    by Yoda's Ball Sack

    Is looking much better than this crap.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 9:25 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    12 years from now.

  • Dec. 20, 2008, 11:44 p.m. CST


    by aabiohazard1972

    DAMN YOU MICHAEL BAY! someone had to say it

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 12:11 a.m. CST

    Theremin about as obscure as the guitar...

    by quantize

    everything from hip hop to Radiohead?, not to mention the gzillion movies using it. I would not call that 'obscure'..Maybe to someone too dumb to know the difference between a guitar and bass guitar it is

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 1:26 a.m. CST

    can't get enough of your love babe...

    by deanbarry

    that shit get me hard....

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 1:27 a.m. CST

    Yeah I should have checked my copy of Theremin Monthly

    by G100

    As well known as the Guitar! Jeeeesus Christ what a loon. And you were calling ME a dummy ?!?!?<p> <p>Either tell me how about the THOUSANDS of TherEmin Stores you've been in lately or the plethora of TherEmin magazines or no doubt scores "how to play the TherEmin DVD's" you've seen lately or shut the Fuck up Dickhead.<p> <p>And in case you didn't get it before, you're supposed to shove that Dictionary up your anal little tightass Douchebag.

  • Seeing as it's "about as obscure as the guitar..." Activision have siezed on the mass audience ready for Hot TherEmin Solo VideoGame action.<p> <p>Jack Black is also clearly now poised to wield a TherEmin in "School of Rock 2: America Rocks with a TherEmin" as there is clearly HUGE Box Office appeal to the HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of people who ALL must now know what a TherEmin is if they know what a Guitar is since a TherEmin is now officially "about as obscure as the guitar..."

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 3:27 a.m. CST

    From James Cameron, director of ALIENS and T2...

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    ...comes the next step in total fucking destruction:<p>A V A T A R - Fucking your theatres in 2009!!!

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 3:44 a.m. CST

    Theremin Hero!

    by Toonol

    They're counting on it to bring the PS3 back from distant 3rd.

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 3:45 a.m. CST

    And I'm not as clever or fast

    by Toonol G100.

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 7:18 a.m. CST

    The director of To Kill a Mockingbird just died

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    Now that was a great movie about a great book. They don't make them like that anymore. They can't, it has a white person using the word nigger. Spike Lee says he owns the word.

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 8:27 a.m. CST

    Burn After reading.... WTF!?

    by MurderMostFowl

    Did that thing go straight to video or what?

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 9:19 a.m. CST

    They will try and remake To kill a mocking bird.

    by emeraldboy

    only this time its whitey who gets executed. There will be gospel numbers. There will be an obama character in the white house. Whitey will learn a moral lesson about forgiveness and get pardoned. or something like that.

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 10:31 a.m. CST

    All this talk from cameron can be summed by Roger waters...

    by emeraldboy

    in his song time. "plans that always come to naught or half a page of scribbled lines". Even Tranatino is filiming his long in gestation World War two Epic, INglorious basterds. Hey, wait a minute. I think I know what camerons is doing. He getting this film ready for Cannes. Prepare for this trailer to be unleashed at CANNES.

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 10:37 a.m. CST

    The verse is

    by emeraldboy

    Every year is getting shorter, never seem to find the time. Plans that either come to naught or half a page of scribbled lines. The above summes up cameron and all this talk....

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 10:58 a.m. CST

    Cameron is an old school filmaker in one way..

    by emeraldboy

    that he obviously hates the way the net is used by hollywood to ruin how movies or sold to the public. Studios will put half the film into trailers. they will create websites and Put up BTS bits do superbowl ads, net ads. Cameron doesnt play that game. He makes movies his way. He will take all the time in the world to push things. However, Australia looks like being one of the biggest fox bombs of the year. Critics are saying its a snoresfest. So privately, even though he bagged fox 11 oscars. There must be some concerns about Avatar. It is being released in 2009. so why hasnt the campaign started already. where are the posters and the trailers and so forth.

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 11:22 a.m. CST

    come on Cameron!

    by darthwaz1

    Make Battle Angel already!!! Please!!

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 12:11 p.m. CST

    "GENESIS allowed is not! Is PLANET FORBIDDEN!"

    by YackBacker

    Hehehe, I loved that scene from STAR TREK III.

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 12:17 p.m. CST

    according to the fox movies...

    by emeraldboy

    the official release date for Avatar is 12/18/2009. Which is odd because it is the first cameron film to be released in the winter. Cameron is usually the king of the summer blockbusters.

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 12:59 p.m. CST


    by Merrick

    TITANIC was released 19 December, 1997. AVATAR's release date parallels that closely.

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 1:50 p.m. CST


    by emeraldboy

    Knowing how long He takes to make films. I am taking that release date with a pinch of salt. But maybe that is one of the greatest strengths of CGI. Is that movies come in on time. and on budget. This is film will be unleashed at cannes. Which is why fox is holding back untill then.

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 1:53 p.m. CST

    But the big movie will be...

    by emeraldboy


  • Dec. 21, 2008, 2:52 p.m. CST

    No theremins here

    by NNNOOO!!!

    The Barrons built circuits and tape loops to create the "electronic tonalities" for 'Forbidden Planet'. You want theremin music, check out the original 'Day the Earth Stood Still'.

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 3:42 p.m. CST

    IDEA: If you filmed Leslie Nielsen NOW you could...

    by Big Dumb Ape

    Nice going, Aces, openly revealing the end of the third movie and thus spoiling what the whole trilogy would be building up to. And I don't mean that Morbius sacrifices himself and dies and destroys the planet and all the Krell technology (Walter Pigeon does that in the original), but that the "new" and "improved" story hook/plot twist this time around by JMS will be that Altera (played by Anne Francis in the original) will gain sentient powers from being born on the planet and go power crazy (which frankly sounds like a shitty idea), so that she'll die now too. As you spoiled and said, Morbius will sacrafice her too to stop her from being unleashed on the galaxy.<p>Well, if that's the idea they're going for and IF the whole point of this trilogy is to go from the events of the original expedition and by the third movie THEN become an a remake (or a reimagining) of FORBIDDEN PLANET as we know it... and since Altera is going to go all alien and evil and power crazy and ultimately die (and thus we don't get the happy ending of FORBIDDEN PLANET where Captain Adams (Leslie Neilsen) and Altera end up together) -- I mean, since this trilogy will apparently have dark endings all around, why not have some sort of framing sequence where Captain Adams, years later, is finally revealing the story of what happened at which point you could have old Leslie Neilsen laying and dying in bed or something? And we get to see HIM being the one telling us what happened?<p>But frankly, the whole "Alera" goes Dark Phoenix and bad story angle sounds like utter SHIT. Someone above said it best. STAR TREK did this story in "Where no man has gone before" and managed to cover it in freakin' 45 minutes and didn't need 3 fucking movies to do it.

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 3:46 p.m. CST

    Odd? the TherEmin is as popular as a guitar

    by G100

    And on a gzillion movies, but yeah the bloops, bips and electronic echoes are incredibly effective on the soundtrack.<p> <p>Though I thought there was a little Theremin work in the intro of this myself I'm glad to be corrected by someone who has the decency and civility not to jump down my fucking throat for a typo or some other imaginary "crime" against anality.

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 4:06 p.m. CST

    Altaira's innocence was pretty heavily played in original

    by G100

    Much "what is this earth love" type shenanigans going on. (Kirk had to deal with this every other planet)<p> <p>Though she did lose some of it with her lust for Nielson (who then had to hilariously Zapp her Tiger) and that fed into the Altaira cannot stay theme too.<p> <p>You have to wonder exactly how much of the originals Krell mythos would be kept anyway as they were rather wide and oddly shaped creatures who we know were a super advanced society that goes bugshit with their Id's killing everybody in a night. (an off switch would have been handy at that point)<p> <p>I suspect there is some OTHER science fiction Movie idea at play here (maybe even two) that the Producers or writers have folded into the Forbidden Planet mythology perhaps. Otherwise it does all seem rather pointless and stretched very thin over three Movies.

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 4:41 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    LOL that line from Yoda's cousin. Weeeeeee!!!

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 4:43 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    Co-Starring Linda Hamilton as the artist formerly known as Queen.

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 4:49 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    How can you not hear me ... with ears like that?!?!

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 4:53 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    James Cameron is Snail of the World!!!!

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 4:55 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    Oops I said something taboo for Jim Cameron.

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 4:56 p.m. CST

    Remake "Forbidden World"

    by kabong

    or "Android" or "Creation of the Humanoids" . . .

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 5:03 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    If you haven't seen it, don't be ashamed to check it out. It really is a fun movie and you get to see Amanda Seyfried's cleavage. The only sucking part is Pierce Brosnan singing. Oh he is horrible.

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 5:03 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack


  • Dec. 21, 2008, 5:11 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    TOKYO (Reuters) – A 60-year-old man who was thrown into the air in celebration at his retirement party died after his colleagues failed to catch him and he fell to the floor, a Japanese newspaper reported on Tuesday. <p> The case came to light after the man's wife filed a police complaint against colleagues who threw the man up into the air, accusing them of gross negligence, the Mainichi paper reported on its website. <p> The man died in September, 10 months after the party attended by around 40 people at an unnamed transport company at an inn in Ritto, near the ancient capital of Kyoto in central Japan. <p> The fall damaged his neck and backbone, leaving him paralyzed, and he eventually died of blood poisoning, the paper said. <p> "He worked until the retirement age. We had been looking forward to going to various places as a couple and were excited that we would be able to spend a relaxing time together," the paper quoted the man's wife as saying. <p> "No matter what I say he won't come back, but I want to find out why this happened." <p> (Reporting by Rodney Joyce; Editing by Jerry Norton)

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 5:16 p.m. CST

    Cameron should remake "'

    by kabong

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 5:18 p.m. CST

    Take 2: Cameron should remake "Cyborg 2087"

    by kabong

    since he "homaged" it in "Terminator."

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 7:09 p.m. CST

    Talk about milking a storyline

    by DarthJedi

    I was hoping for a remake updating the effects and look, but keeping the actual story. But, if anyone can pull this off, it's Cameron. He IS the guy that made me like a chick flick after all. The premise sounds interesting enough. Not sure if it'll hold as a trilogy though. And whatever they do, I doubt they'll capture the feel that the original gives when watching it. Definitely one of the classics.

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 7:44 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    Honey honey!

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 7:57 p.m. CST

    Yackbacker and BringingSexyBack

    by attackpatterndelta

    Haven't been in here in a while, you guys gave me a good laugh with those Star Trek III lines! I'm for James Cameron being attached to ANY project right now, just because of his track record.

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 8:03 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

  • Dec. 21, 2008, 8:37 p.m. CST

    BSB! Attackpatterndelta

    by YackBacker

    What's up, homies? I ALMOST picked up MAMMA MIA the other day, I'm not gonna lie. I didn't, but got TRANSSIBERIAN instead. Very cool movie, Woody Harrelson is excellent. Check it out when you can. Any of you guys see SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE yet? I'm going to see it this week down at the AMC 25.

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 6:28 a.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    You have GOT to get Mamma Mia! I'm not fucking around. It'll have you making aisles in your living room and dancing in them!

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 7:47 a.m. CST

    Hehe, I like that recommendation

    by YackBacker

    I'm going to take you up on this, you crazy bastard.

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 10:52 a.m. CST

    Hey, here's an idea, Cameron...

    by Roguewriter

    How about instead of yammering on about all the things you're GONNA do eventually, FUCKING MAKE A MOVIE. I cannot believe how self-important and ultimately useless to the geek legions the genius director of THE TERMINATOR and ALIENS has become... GET BACK TO WORK, JIMMY!

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 11 a.m. CST


    by FleshMachine

    he who points out spelling errors on internet forums...loses.

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 12:54 p.m. CST

    What the hell is a theremin?

    by The Eskimo

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 1:18 p.m. CST


    by NoHubris

    Long time no TB. SLUMDOG is great!<p>It's got humor, drama, crime-thriller elements, romance, as well as a surprise at the end credits so make sure you stick around for it.

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 1:35 p.m. CST

    A Theremin is a musical instrument.

    by emeraldboy

    Which is played without physical contact. it was created in 1919 in Russia by Lev Sergeivich Termen (known in the West as Léon Theremin). The theremin is unique among musical instruments in that it is played without physical contact. The musician (occasionally referred to as a thereminist) stands in front of the instrument and moves his or her hands in the proximity of two metal antennas. The distance from one antenna determines frequency (pitch), and the distance from the other controls amplitude (volume). Most frequently, the right hand controls the pitch and the left controls the volume, although some performers reverse this arrangement. Some low cost theremins use a conventional, knob operated volume control and have only the pitch antenna.

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 1:52 p.m. CST

    by Chupacabra555

    Funny thing; I remember Harlan Ellison once mentioning Forbidden Planet in a talk he was giving about writing, and one of the things he mentioned was "Who were the Krell? What did they look like?" While I believe the idea of a prequel is good, I hope they don't re-write the Krell to be a diabolical race who created their "Machine" to conquer the universe; the best thing about the original was that all the horror was unintended (it was a just a device of convenience that accidentally unleashed the "Monsters of the Id"). Also, hurry up! I too want to see Leslie Neilson have some role in the remake (preferrably ad Dr. Morbius [which would be his first serious role again in years ^_^]), but how old is he and how is his health?

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Pitching my "reimagining" of "Forbidden Planet"

    by kabong

    Prequel to the prequel. <P> Krell TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENS

  • Dec. 22, 2008, 8:13 p.m. CST


    by attackpatterndelta

    Yackbacker, I haven't seen Slumdog Millionaire, as for Mama Mia, never really crossed my radar, but thanks for reminding me of the funny Star Trek quote!

  • Dec. 23, 2008, 9:06 a.m. CST

    Did anyone read the paperback version?

    by zinc_chameleon

    Albeit, it came out in the early sixties, but...Diana was Morbius's wife, and a linguist. By his own admission she was the brighter and more noble of the two. It was she who deciphered the Krell script; Morbius is a plodder, not a natural genius. Even the movie makes that clear. Diana was the first to take the brain boost, and I believe she was pregnant at the time. Altaira is 19 when the United Planets forces land. So conceivably, the Krell treatment can alter one at the cellular level. Even with today's neuroscience, the same problem would occur: God-like power to a creature with an 'ape's brain' is a sure disaster. I like that idea that Morbius' wife bites the Krell apple first, and then he is lumbering on behind her. It makes his protectiveness, and his powerlessness over Altaira more likely.