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New JUDGE DREDD Film Is Greenlit For Production By DNA FILMS!!!!!
Hey folks, Harry here... I fucking love 2000 AD. When it burst onto the comic scene, it was unlike anything I'd ever seen... and when Stallone was signed to play Judge Dredd... I was so fucking excited... And then the movie sucked sewer sludge and I wept... alot... cuz I felt so many people had seen this and just felt that the source material must be lame too... and it is not! 2000 AD is friggin greatness! And the production company behind SUNSHINE and 28 WEEKS LATER. We have no details as of yet (PLEASE JUDGE DEATH, PLEASE!) - but with the film set to go into production in 2009, you can bet we'll probably be hearing details shortly.
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Rebellion and 2000 AD are proud to announce that Judge Dredd is coming to a cinema near you soon!
Together with DNA Films, the movie production company behind such great sci-fi movies such as Sunshine and 28 Weeks Later, Judge Dredd will go into production in 2009.
Jason Kingsley, CEO and Creative Director said, ‘We can’t give away too many details at this point, but we’re looking forward to working with DNA Films to bring Judge Dredd back to the big screen.’
We’ll keep you up to date with breaking news as it happens!
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..THE LAW!
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I blame Armand Arsante who was as threatening as Woody Allen.
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John Wayne. I don't care if it's CGI, if they dig him up, John Wayne must be Dredd, or it's no go.
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Dec 19, 2008 10:42:52 PM CST
The first one did wonders for Rob Schneider's career...
by santoanderson
... Must kill Danny Cannon.
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rebooted. let's just keep dredd in his mask this time around, mmkay?
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it'll be epic
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Yeah it could have been so much more, and it has its problems. But so help me, I can't help but watch it whenever it comes on television.
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...Vin. Judge Dredd was like a composite of everything that sucked about '90s actions films. I like how they pimp the other DNA films; Uunless this movie's another Boyle/Garland movie it'll blow as bad as the first.
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Jason Statham. Or Ray Stevenson.
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... has a nice voice.
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and subsequently bury the franchise forever.
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Dec 19, 2008 10:50:19 PM CST
Oh for fuck's sake..............................................
by crackerfarmboy
Is this a reboot? Or a remake? What about a reimaging? Maybe a prequel? Or a midquel? Or perhaps it's a requel?
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You know it makes sense.
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Sly just DID NOT GET IT
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...ok i know that was cruel..just a joke buddy
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Dec 19, 2008 10:58:09 PM CST
i only pray they don't go w/ the Diesel on this one...
by vaudeville villain
"stop thinking Mega-City One police, and start thinking Sony Playstation! blow shit up!'
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Knowles? ugliest man in the world, would we? ouch
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That is fucking perfect. Which means, sadly, it'll never happen.
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Love dredd. First encountered him in that first batman team up, have since collected most of the eagle color reprint series and a bunch of "dredd rules!" . I even liked the stallone movie when it came out (i was 11) and deeply cherished the sega game that accompanied it. I canno be more plesed that Dredd, The Shadow, and the Phantom are all getting second chances at cinematic glory.
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The first one coulda been great. They certainly nailed the costume and the look of the film. Stallone shoulda been awesome... then he took the helmet off.Yeah, I know, you don't cast Stallone then hide his face the entire movie, but, c'mon.I'm not even gonna start on Rob Schneider.
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Maybe, not.A no-name would be fine, if they leave the helmet on.
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Oh, why bother even to hope?
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... but he had to take that goddamned helmet off! I say give it to Aaron Eckhart, hes got the chin and hes actually a good actor.
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...The Stallone version sucked the cock of a crackhead who was already in the process of sucking another crackhead's cock.
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As other have said, he was good as Dredd, it was just the rest of the film that blew. It was way too campy/comedic. Can't really think of anyone to play him today. Most action actors today are rail thin, need someone with some bulk.
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Because he has aged since. I bet the producers want to distance themselves though.
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..is that the entire plot was fixed around Stallone removing Dredd's helmet. That said, the practical ABC Warrior robot was FUCKING AMAZING.
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Yes to Mickey Rourke. Honestly. Stallone can't act at all. Rourke can.
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With this film, I cemented my hatred for Rob Schneider.
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Please, oh please, oh please.......
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Dredd SOPPOSED to be British? Or.... the equivalent? I thought Megacity 1 was future London?
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the whole look of the film was perfect. The suit, the helmet, the bike, the lawgiver. The SCRIPT sucked unfortunately. Once it was on cable and I watched the first half hour with the tv on mute and it was so incredible looking. I remember in the theatre when Dredd first told the criminals in that building.."Throw down your weapons and prepare to be judged!!" ...my mouth hit the floor and I thought it was gonna be a sick movie. Too bad it was all downhill after that scene.
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he should play dredd again.
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Judge Dredd was awesome, I AM THE LAW... The fuck is wrong with you Harry. This post brought to you by HBO.
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...but it sure smells good!
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the luscious, sexitudinous Diane Lane, who starred in the '95 film as well...and doesn't look a day older (or less sexy) today!
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Eat it bitches, you know its true.
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not that i approve, but my money's on him landing the part.
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Dredd's American as Apple Pie.
Mega-City 1 is in East Coast USA.
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who didn't hate the hell out of it?? i'm asking because i didnt read any of your comments and barely a few subject lines.. i could've but i'm sooooo layZ
i know a little about the source matl, seen a few pages of the comic, played the genesis game.. but probably have most of the same complaints for the stallone movie as most of you -comedic sidekick; Slys Face; ... but really loved some of it too... Asante was cool /ABC robot/ evil german dude always forget his name/ Slys voice with helmet ON/ Angel cannibals/ diane lanes perfect ASS -
Motherfucker had 1 1/2 movies in him (meaning the Rocky series).
No shit...when he insisted on removing Dredd's helmet...did it surprise anyone? The Suck had to hit maximum, and stay there. What a prick. -
And Diane Lane didnt show her bodacious ta-tas in the 1996 version - there's definite room for improvement.
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...Could you fucking Gen-Ys stop getting your panties wet over garbage that made us Gen-Xs go apeshit and treating it like it meant something other than the the profit-sucking Nineties disaster area it truly was? Stallone's DREDD slurped my granny's panties...and she was dead twenty or so years by that time. Move on.
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gotta have tits with the explosions too ya know
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When you get the chance, Google "2000AD," Wikipedia it, whatever. When I discovered 2000AD, the synopses of those stories were more entertaining than most comics I read at the time. Read more about it; you owe it to yourself as a geek. Ooh, that, and TVTropes. The Web is addictive.
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...he can do Cap America AND Dredd, can't he???
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Dec 20, 2008 2:30:39 AM CST
Not a reimagining. Hopefully just doing it right..
by whinynegativebitch
...This time. First one was a giant piece of shit and the source material is too good to waste.
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Someone needed to say that. I would also like to see a Judge Death but my favorite Judge Dredd story is the Cursed Earth. I would love to see that on the big screen. So, if you guys do it, please put Jimmy Carter's face on Mount Rushmore, that would make my day.
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Keep Portland Weird
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My two big guilty pleasures that summer. Too bad they couldn't just use Stallone again. He's better now for the part than he was then. As for Mickey Rourke... Judge Death? Hehe. Looks the part already. But if they go with Statham and do it right... if he keeps the helmet on... then I'll be happy.
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Jason Statham??? I need to sleep. I don't know where that came from. He can do the acting and action but his voice does not work. Can not work.
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"...the synopses of those stories were more entertaining than most comics I read at the time."
you're not fucking kidding, I like this: Weakened by the effects of Block Mania, Mega-City One is attacked and invaded by the forces of East-Meg One. Almost half the city (400 million people) are killed in nuclear strikes. Many more die from radiation sickness, starvation and cold. The Mega-City Judges are unable to strike back as the Sov city is protected by a dimensional force field. Instead, the Judges fight a guerilla war, eventually culminating in the destruction of East-Meg One when Dredd captures a Sov missile bunker.
And this: Judge Death, an alien superfiend from another dimension, arrives in Mega-City One. Believing all life is a crime, he embarks on a killing spree before being caught and imprisoned.
Fuck me: "Sabbat the Necromagus re-animates the corpses of the dead and uses them to attack the world's Mega-Cities, leading to the deaths of billions." Jesus Christ I need to get back into comics.
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This should be better.
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as Judge Dredd.
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Gerard Butler.
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Give it to a complete unknown and use the budget wisely.
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That's a name we don't hear often enough - one of the most underated actors around. Whatever he appears in, he makes it much better (like Sean Connery). The man has real gravity.
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---it has to be over-the-top and therefore seems campy (which the comics are). Keep the ridiculous costumes THE SAME!!!
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Dec 20, 2008 3:21:25 AM CST
JUDGE DEATH Is One of the Greatest Comic Villains...
by alucardvsdracula
Why he hasn't been brought to the screen by now is a mystery, a riddle, a puzzle, a christmas box with a feted turd waiting inside dripped out of Stallones saggy old asshole. Anyway DEATH vs DREAD BRING THIS FUCKER ON.
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Iloved the first movie and always wanted to see more Judge Dredd movies. Any word on whether or not Rob Schneider will be back?
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"II AAAAMMMM TTTHHHHEEEEE LLAAAAWWWW"
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That's what you should be remaking, botched adaptations that deserve a better treatment in stead of cult classics that just can't be topped.
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Judge Dread was just craaaaaaap!
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to not show Dredd's face? Correct me if I'm wrong (I've never read 2000AD) but isn't it true that in the comic he has never been seen without his helmet on?
I'd think that would be quite interesting if they did that in the film. But then what actor would sign up for that? I hope there's someone out there willing to hide their face for the entire film (or they could just hire an unknown).
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He needs a starring role ASAP. No longer should he be relegated to making the likes of Leo look good.Say it with me...MARK STRONG for DREDD!!!
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If not him, Clancy Brown! If not him, Rouke! That's all I have to say.
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Will come off and the film will be shite.
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That guy is shit and plays vinnie jones in everything he's in. Clancy Brown.. now that's a good choice. He's around the right height and has the right face. JUST KEEP THE FUCKING HELMET ON AND NONE OF THIS BROTHERLY LOVE SHIT! Oh, and not just Judge Death, but Fear, Mortis and Fire too.
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Something new to complain about! I cain't hurdly wait!
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ha ha ha ha ha!!!
oh wait, you're serious!!
ha ha ha ha ha!!!
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about aramand assante being Judge Dreads brother. Great looking movie. Rob Schneider is annoying.
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... and he definately has a chin that can carry the role of Dredd. Or another famous chin - Bruce Campbell
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.....but of course won't be. The story should be a three film series based on the Democracy story-arc with the second film concentrating on Necropolis. Chopper should feature prominently in all three film and used as a story telling device to keep Dread on the course of what he believes to be right. The first person on the crew of the film to mention a sidekick other than PSI-Judge Anderson or Hershey must be hung and their body displayed on set as a warning to those who are stupid. Ron Pearlman as Dread as he is professional and smart enough to know that keeping the helmet on is needed. John Hurt should be the voice of a fully realised Rob Bottin created Death. Ludivine Sagnier or a blond haired Eva Green as Anderson with Carrie-Ann Moss as Hershey. Keep the Angel Family as far from the thing as is possible. The most important thing is this. The Director MUST be a non-American. British preferably but someone who understands irony and pathos and dark humour. Not saying there isn't any American directors who don't but the only ones I'd trust to direct this flick wouldn't be interested in it and not want to change it. But as we all know this isn't going to happen...... unless Christopher Nolan wants to do it that is.
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I know Nolan is an Aussie...
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... the Apocalypse War. If they made this I'd piss my pants right there in the theatre :)
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..if only he had kept his helmet on throughout the Movie.Egotistical bastard.Oh, and the story sucked donkey dick not to mention the soundtrack, what no Anthrax?(If I recall,the band was huge fans of the Dredd comics to the point of having his face on one of their album covers.)Yeah this one is worth a remake, moreso than Hulk or Punisher.
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Someone had to say it. Might as well be me. Let's face the facts - that chin would go great with that helmet.! Was kinda hoping Aronowsky would let him be Robocop too. Ah well, we can but dream.
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Shows up my ignorance don't it?!!! I'm trying remember now how I'd heard we was from Oz. Well, I'd never claim I was above admitting I was wrong.... Now if we could only get Rothman and Fox to say that we'd be happier geeks.
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The new Judge Dredd film should be a re-boot like Batman Begins. Would be cool if they started it with Dredd fresh from Academy.
The story should focus on the Angel gang running riot in the city and with Mean Machine are pretty much unstoppable until Dredd steps it up sealing his rep as the most feared Judge in Mega City One. Scatter film with hints of Judge Death.
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Original arist (not the creator) Mike McMahon has said that he originally drew Dredd as being black (hence the distinctive jawline) and as the strip was in black and white his ethnicity went away.
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Hollywood is now remaking movies that flopped. So get ready for Howard the Duck and Ishtar to be remade.
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Dec 20, 2008 6:49:28 AM CST
"Crime isss commited by the living...therefore life isss a crime
by iammrmonkey!
Love Judge Death!
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there was a wasteland between there and texas- where the judges all wear cowboy-helmets.
i say give it to blur studios. sly can still voice it but clint eastwood was always the original dredd/ no matter what the 2000AD bots said ten years ago. look at him. he's dirty harry.
it was only a contractual obligation movie first time around. from the same contract that brought you demolition man, daylight and cliff hanger (i think it was a five picture deal- can anyone illuminate/ correct me on this?)
anyhow- sly was on a pay-or-play so the time was never invested in the character.
they robbed us all and themselves with the first Judge dredd movie- it could have spawned a franchise like Blade or now the terminator- but they really messed it up.
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I think it's fair to say that Sly tried to push Dredd closer to the source material (he pushed for the comic covers over the opening titles (at least that's what they said at the time)).
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The movie was dreadful, Stallone was wrong, too jokey, helmet should have stayed on. Judge death has to be in it.
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That MARCH by Alan Silvestri. Man that fucker can write catchy.
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Fuckin' A that guy deserves a starring role. He was tits in Stardust, super suave in Body of Lies and classy as fuck in Rocknrolla. The guy is starting to grow on me. I don't think he's a good idea for Dredd though...
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Is the greatest British comic of all time.
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John Hamm would make a perfect Reuben Flagg (yeah, I know American Flagg! ripped off Dredd left and write, but it was still really cool). Bruce Campbell would also be good, but he's probably too old by now. 20 years ago, he would have been spot on.
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That was a great story.
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I would love to see an ABC warrior film, or Rouge Trouper would be cool to.
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I thought this was due a rebootabout time too-now that we get good directors doing comics adaptations hopefully it will land in the hands of someone who actually understands the material (at the satirical intentions behind most of it)and will finally get the screen treatment it deserves (imagine if Paul Verhoeven got his hands on it....ooooh baby). And yeah, Judge Death and ALL the Dark Judges should be the villains-the necopolis storyline has cinematic written all over it...and Dredds moral ambiguity as a facist cop is compelling enough on its own if handled properly. Dredd would be better suited to a tv series actually, but it would need to be on HBO with all the violence and controversial storylines you could get out of it....let the casting speculation begin! I would bet some one like Scott Patterson would be good for it, but he only really has the look...I dunno about the voice. Tom Jane maybe if we can bury the punisher memories...orrrr adam baldwin. Anyone else?
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sorry everybody!
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The Dredd production was so inept that they hired a 2000ad artist for production work and he "designed" the big Pawn Shop robot which the producers proudly showed to the 2000ad fowk and then had to pay to license the ABC Warriors . . .
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I haven't seen the new Punisher yet, but that guy who played him looks the part; much more than Sly who is all of 3 feet tall and borderline retarded.
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The only annoying things were Rob Schneider and Armand Assante. The rest was fine. If you gotta rape something from my childhood, just rape those two parts!!!
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I am with you Harry!
2000 AD was a terrific series of Comics that I read when I was young kid in the Military stationed in Germany and working long, boring 12 hour shifts in communications and helping to keep the world safe from the "Evil Empire"
2000 AD and Judge Dredd along witht the ABC Warriors had terrific stories and were a blast to read.
I too had high hopes for the 1995 movie that came out only to be sorely and terribly disappointed by the crap it truely was!!
I hope that this time around?
A lot more care and thought will go into the planning, pre-and-post production, special effects, storyline AND above all else..the casting of this new film!!
I want to see a gritty sci-fi film taken from the pages of AD 2000 and made into something the old fans can appreciate and get the people who have never read or heard of 2000 AD & Judge Dredd excited and happy to see. -
If you read 2000AD you understand the helmet is an essential part of the character..the dude sent his mother to jail in early issues for chrissakes! Trying to humanize Dredd by showing his face basically goes against everything in the comics and the humor of zero tolerance policing in a fucked up future.
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i know THAT
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He's fine in roles with a mask on. See Phantom for a preview.
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or even better Marshall Law.
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This will be his year!
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I'm with Harry on this one. I, too, had such high hopes for the original and was let down. (Even so, I STILL have it on dvd.) If they actually do it right, they'll be rewarded with plenty of repeat business...and the results of expanding curiosity. Do it wrong...and it's back to the bargain bin at your local Wal-mart.
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Cause the yanks sure screwed it up.
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...and maybe you'll have a hint of this property's potential. -Yes, it could be THAT huge. BELIEVE IT!!!
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They had a great story line taken right from 2000ad in the first film and they had to fuck it up by replacing Judge Cal with Armand Asante. I say it's ripe for a remake. Nowadays they could pull off a pretty decent CGI Judge Death as well.
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This is good news...I am just sayin'
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...and others, I'm sure. Don't deny it.
The cheesy/serious delivery of "I AM the law!". Armand Assante's Stallone impression. Silvestri's fantastic score. "Bitch!" - "Judge Bitch!".
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That young artist was Chris Halls (when he did 2000ad stuff), better known to us now as Chris Cunningham (and if you don't know who that is -considering your regurgitation of that story I'm guessing you don't- you should be ashamed!). That ABC Warrior was fucking awesome. Your black Dredd story is cool. Never heard that one. But yeah like others have said, the essence of Dredd (Black or white) was always Eastwood, and he was always a fascist prick!
Cunningham also did Mean Machine (who he'd drawn for 2000ad) which no-one has even mentioned from the look of it (aside from a ref to the Angel gang). I think he worked on Dredd's helmet too but I'm a bit foggy on that one.
As for the whole payment thing, Cannon was a fan of Hammerstein and wanted to use him, so it's not like he wasn't aware. Maybe he just didn't tell the producers!... And yes "designed" is fair. The comic design could just have been a man-in-suit, but Cunningham made it look like an actual robot. I'm trying to remember but I think Cunningham had already done Alien 3 and Maybe Nightbreed by then? Hadn't started working with Kubrick yet though I don't think. -
"I am the law!!!"
"Young man, you wish you were the law." -
Come on you gutless wonders!
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...will give Dredd back the Lawmaster (sorry; Batpod) that he stole off him to such great effect for his own movie...
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You've never read the comic, have you?!
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If they put Walter the Wobot, fwend of Dwedd in there.
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Because they won't keep the helmet on.
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probably would have been ok if they had killed all the Rob Schneider stuff. His character took it from goofy fun to just plain stupid
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and eddie murphy as the jury. and eddie murphy as the executioner. and eddie murphy as the plaintiff. and eddie murphy as the defendant. and eddie murphy as the prosecuting attorney. and eddie murphy as the public defender. and eddie murphy as the young hot sexy law student that eddie murphy the prosecuting attorney falls in love with. and eddie murphy as the stenographer. etc, etc, etc...
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Please!! Ron Perlman would make an excellent Dredd
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Shia LaBeouf for Dredd!
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Dec 20, 2008 9:02:18 AM CST
...and this movie will be different from the last...how??
by grampageezer
Actors are vain people otherwise they wouldn't want their faces splashed across a 40 foot high screen so every pore can be scrutinized - and they surely don't want it covered up with a mask.
Therefore, this will be just another movie where the director will find a reason for the actor who plays the superhero to only have to wear his mask 5 percent of the time.
I hope they get it somewhat right though this time around - But I'm sure they'll fall back to the old formula by signing Chris Rock or Chris Tucker as Dredd's comic sidekick, and probably make Dredd a thin 23 year old heart-throb with a romantic twist to the story to get the women to buy tickets.
Now if they only would use something like Simon Bisley's version of Judge Dredd facing off Judge Death as inspiration, that would make a good flick.
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Ron Perlman WOULD make an excellent Dredd!
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you just made me spray beer out my nose all over my monitor.
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Rebellion have been releasing big chunky 300+ page collections of Dredd's comic strips in the order they were originally published in 2000AD. They're up to about 11 volumes already and they're available on Amazon US. The first couple of volumes are a bit rough and ready as the writers found their feet but if anyone in the US wants to see what all the fuss is about, now you can.
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....and Ron Perlman doesn't care if you can't see his face either.
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Thissss hassss been a public ssserviccce announcccment on behalf of judge Deathhh
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The First Judge Dredd movie & enjoyed it!
Jason Statham, Gerard Butler, Mickey Rourke & even Dwayne 'the rock' Johnson come to mind to play Dredd this time but of course would love Stallone to do it again! -
And an unknown voiced by someone else for Dredd, Vader style. That way no egos will take the mask off.
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Can anyone else see that as a perfect fit?
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If so, they should do Nemesis The Warlock. Imagine what Del Toro and the Henson crew could do with that. Or else Ballad Of Halo Jones, although I can't think of a good actress for the lead. Billie Piper maybe? (that sound you hear is Alan Moore grumbling about another character he'd have to complain about being ruined by a movie)
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= Great Movie
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We're remaking stuff from the mid-90's now?
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The AICN talkback killer!! Every time I post something, no one posts anything after me!!
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Dec 20, 2008 10:01:56 AM CST
Jason Statham is the only actor I would cast as Dredd.
by leafar the lost
I would then cast Mickey Rourke as Judge Death, and some hot bitch as Judge Anderson. Just don't give her too many lines.
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Get a body double to do the actual filming, get ILM or WETA to do the best damn CGI ever, and do the voice with a synth or impressionists. I'm telling you, it will kill.
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The first Dredd movie could have been a whole lot worse. If I watch it now and accept that it’s an interpretation of Dredd then it’s not so bad. I think the worst aspects off the first film were Dredd’s sense of humour (he doesn’t have one), Dredd’s relationship with Judge Hershey (Judges kissing?! I think not!) and Dredd taking his helmet off.
As for casting I see a lot of British actors names being banded about. The nationality of the actor isn’t so important as the fact that Dredd be played as American. Casting wise I think there’s two ways to go – if it’s a live action movie go with a no-name actor that’s happy keeping the helmet on, if it’s an animated feature then that opens up the field and gets rid of the ego element
Off the top of my head I think Neill Blomkamp would be a great director for a Dredd film. Or how about Paul Verhoeven maybe? (RoboCop was a pretty good Dredd rip-off, why not let him loose on the real thing). Whoever it is they should be familiar with the source material and back story.
2000AD is a great source of stories; I’m surprised that more movies haven’t been made yet. The Ballad of Halo Jones would make for an interesting trilogy and of course I’d like to see Rogue Trooper on the screen in one form or another. One other movie based on a 2000AD story has been made – the under rated Hardware directed by Richard Stanley which was based on a 2000AD story called Shok! -
Ready? Here it goes: PADDY CONSIDINE. Take that, casting agencies!
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Was it indeed Sylvester's decision that the helmet come off? I thought I'd read in a Q&A with him on here that he'd just as soon the helmet had stayed on so he wouldn't have needed to wear blue contact lenses.
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that Dredd and Rico were supposed to be clones, but they didn't look anything alike! On the other hand, no movie with Max Von Sydow can be all bad.
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that Dredd and Rico were supposed to be clones, but they didn't look anything alike! On the other hand, no movie with Max Von Sydow can be all bad.
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...and everything else will fall into place. Judge Dredd, as written by John Wagner, is one of the most sarcastic, witty, black-humoured future comic stories ever written. What other comicbook would have Otto Sump's 'GET UGLY!' craze taking a future city by storm? (a fad where the entire population of Mega-City One starts getting plastic surgery to make themselves brutally deformed and, well, ugly!)
This morbidly jaded vibe of the Judge Dredd universe was compeltely absent from the Stallone 'Dredd' movie, and it's the main reason fans of 2000AD and Dredd were so disappointed with that attempt to make a Dredd film. It was as though someone who had never read a single copy of 2000AD had been given a budget and some props and just went ahead and made an action film. It completely missed the whole point. And as much as I like Stallone, he is not Dredd. Dredd is more Clint Eastwood (obviously Eastwood is too old and highbrow anyway to do it, but Wagner wrote him to be Eastwood.) -
Dec 20, 2008 10:44:12 AM CST
Too bad Jerry Goldsmith is gone...his trailer score was great!
by drath
The trailer music for Judge Dread (reused later many times, notably on Lost in Space's trailer) was outstanding, and it always bewildered my why he was replaced with Alan Silvestri--a fine composer but his score was not nearly as awesome as the brief composition that Goldsmith had written. Oh yeah, the ABC robot in that movie looked awesome, but instead of being Robocop2 he was just a big bland prop with no personality. I'd have killed to hear him talk with James Earl Jones's voice (as I was sure that's what Jones had been cast to do until he basically read an opening crawl to us).
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DO NOT give the part to Jason Statham or Vinnie Jones or some other beefnecked non-actor. Can you imagine Vinnie Jones hamming up the accent? Dredd is a native of a future east-coast America metropolis, not Albert Square.
It actually has to be someone who is quite haggard and weather-beaten, who is also able to really act, in a jaded, sarcastic tone. If he hadn't already done Hellboy I would suggest Ron Perlman for the role, he's already the physical embodiment of Judge Dredd, right there in the flesh. Oh fuck it, give Perlman a call. He should do it. -
It has some problems, but the production design is amazing. I felt it was too light to be rated R. It felt like a PG-13 movie. Should have had tons of gore and less of Stallone's face. Overall I think it is decent. Shit, I may put it in right now. Love the prison escape, Robot activation and prisoner transport crash stuff.
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although it got some mediocre reviews kept me happy for a couple weeks. One of the better first-person games I played on the GameCube. That game had everything the movie didn't...gore, sick, twisted humor and Judge Death as a villian. That fucker was HARD to kill.
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and he gets to use his real accent...you guys know that i am right
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That he didn't think the film was good. Either way I still liked parts of the first film. Eat recycled food, its ok for you and good for the planet.
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MegaCity One is a British writer's conception of North America. Dredd is supposed to be the all-american cop.
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David Carradine in Death Race 2000.
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I totally agree on Stevenson man.
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You only need to think of his Buffy "gentleman" role or the "pale man" in Pans Labyrinth to know he'd nail. Lance Henriksen as Chief Judge.............& how about Jack Coleman as Dredd himself, since Dredd isn't a meathead in the comics
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Yeah, I know. He's wrong for Dredd, but I've just decided to start pimping him for every leading role until he actually gets one. Hollywood need to get their head out of ass.
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Jason Statham would not make a good Dredd but he would make a fantastic Rogue Trooper.
I would also like to see a hard R rated Slaine movie.
Bruce Campbell as Sam Slade: Robot Hunter
Stronium Dog and Harlem Heroes would make great films too. -
Strong for Dredd!!!
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Judge Dredd vs. Judge Death. Think about it...problem solved.
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but when i read the original series, i heard brit accents when the characters spoke....i know they aint supposed to be brits, but that is what i heard...romans werent brits either...but a brit accent always works when portraying romans...and stevenson would be inspired casting....punisher sucked, but he made a great frank castle
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WE'll have to agree to disagree. We can all agree that Stallone was wrong, but Dredd is American, pure and simple. He's the ultimate American fascist police officer, DIrty Harry meets Batman on a very bad day. The reason brit accents works for playing Romans is because we have no idea what Romans sounded like. Having Brits (Stevenson is Northern Irish, btw, technically British, but not really) in the US would just be silly.
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Though yeah Rob Schneider was really really annoying in film and the plot could've been better.
Stallone was fine in the part, the script blew chunks.
Now It would be interesting to see Stallone back and Clancy Brown as the Judge Death.... Stallone vs Brown...Now That's something I'd love to see. -
Dec 20, 2008 12:23:17 PM CST
Clancy Brown for Death? are you missing the fact that...
by maneatingfish
... Judge Death makes Posh (Beckham) Spice look FAT!!! see http://tinyurl.com/a3am6d for all you people who don't seem to know what Judge Death looks like
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.. could pull off making Clancy Brown into Judge Death!!! What next Kevin James as Judge Mortis!!!!
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was Clint Eastwood/Dirty Harry (not that it really matters). While physically a Thomas Jane type is a good match whoever (whomever? whosoever? whomsoever?)is cast (no matter their nationality) does need to portray Dredd with a distinctive deep voice similar to the aformentioned Brown, Ironside, Perlman, or Michael Wincott.
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I walked out of the cinema apologising to my Mrs for dragging her to see it. I wanted to chop Danny Cannon's alls off. I've watched it twice more since (on the telly) just to prove to myself how bad it was. Ok, if you aren't an old time Dredd fanboy like me, and if the film is your only real exposure to Dredd, maybe it wasn't so bad. But for me they might aswell have sacrificed my childhood right up there on the screen. It was as bad if not worse than Highlander 2... and if anyone says that wasn't bad they need sterilising for the good of the human race.
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As far as I'm aware. Dredd has been seen without his helmet twice.
Way back in the early days he used a face changing device to change his look when infiltrating a gang, so it wasn't his real visage. Then, I think it was last years Christmas issue, an interpretation of his face was shown.
On another occasion he took his helmet off but we didn't see his face since a "censored" logo was plastered over the frame.
Been buying 2000AD since Prog.#1 when I was 15, I'm now 47.
Splundig Vur Thrigg!
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LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!
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with the Jerry Goldsmith score was fucking amazing. What happened there? Did Goldsmith complete the score? Or was he replaced part-way through production?
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For Judge Dredd it should be someone taller than Stallone, maybe Jason Statham?
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Dec 20, 2008 1:47:59 PM CST
Stop with the Clancy Brown!!!! Judge Death is a corpse for petes
by maneatingfish
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But never show it. In the comics Dredd never showed his full face. Please let those that write this thing, remember that!!!
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One time.
If I find the time I'll dig it out but it was about a year ago.. -
The Sly movie was great (yes, except for the Schnieder/helmet/Assante issue)Keep all that, and go with someone that doesnt need to have their face on the screen. I think I'd have had more respect for Sly if he didn't take off the helmet. Diane Lane was smokin, but romance just takes away from the pure testoserone that was Dredd. Ray Stevenson, Vinnie Jones, Jason Statham. All three have the physique, and the chin. But Vinnie Jones is a large man, and could be very imposing in the armor and helmet. How about Dominic Purcell? Good build, and good jaw. But whatever they do, DONT TAKE OFF THE DAMN HELMET.
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I am assuming the prior two projects announced a few years back are dead in the water. Will any production from that venture roll over into this new production? Or are we talking clean slate? I like the synopsis of the two separate films produced back to back.
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Post production went on too long and he had other commitments (First Knight and Congo.
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or was I born in a barn.)
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Hitman wasn't great and he was miscast in Die Hard 4, but his Deadwood performance was spot on, spitting his words through gritted teeth just like a young Clint Eastwood. Perfect. A cameo by Clint as Fargo couldn't hurt either. "Gaze into the fist of Dredd, punk." http://tinyurl.com/9nofts
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He was about the best in the last film. The design on Dredd's bike needs some serious reworking, that was way too wimpy last time.
Cant wait to see the company behind Sunshine and 28' do a mega badass MegaCity One! -
FOR JUDGE DREDD!!!!!
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I kinda liked Stallone.
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as much as I love Marshall Law, one of the greatest comic book masterpieces ever created, there's no way in hell Hollywood would ever do the material justice! So I'd rather they never even try.
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...I was a huge comic book geek, I never really got intot he Judge Dredd universe. One of my best friends at the time was rabid about it, too. I guess it just wasn't my thing. I do think that with the currect tech available to filmmakers that it's a worthy reboot, though. I have NO preference in regards to who would play the title role, or any of the smaller ones for that matter. But I do think it would be cool if Sly had a cameo or a small part.
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hee!
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look again
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So, they're remaking "RoboCop", which was kinda based on the "Judge Dredd" comic anyway, and they're remaking the "Judge Dredd" movie?
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Thanks for that. It's a great shame, could have been a Goldsmith classic.
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And I judge Ray Stevenson to be the best candidate for Judge Dredd. One, he can act. Two, he's big and intimidating. Three, he's capable of bringing a great growling voice. And four, he's not Jason Statham (though I do agree that Statham could make a great Rogue Trooper though) or Vinnie Fucking Jones, two guys who should be kept as far away from Dredd as possible. After the failure of Punisher War Zone I don't see producers taking the risk on Stevenson though, unfortunately. This despite him easily being the best Punisher so far, something that even folks who didn't like the new film (of the few who saw it) seemed to agree on. And while Megacity One was always set in America, I think people expect a certain british cross cultural sensibility to the inhabitants, though I've always thought that Dredd should have more of a nuetral accent, something that you can't clearly tie to any particular (current) accent, as his past should be clouded in mystery as much as possible. As such I don't want to hear a Judge Dredd from the Bronx, or a Judge Dredd from Wales, or an Australian Judge Dredd, I just want that Judge Dredd growl of a voice, the one that convinces me that He Is The Law.As for other Dredd candidates, Perlman doesn't have the authority to his voice for it, and as big as he is, I've never found him all that intimidating. Bruce Campbell is too fat and too jokey. Clancy Brown could be excellent, if he can still tap into his inner Kurgan, but I doubt he's considered enough of a name to be in contention. Likewise Michael Ironside would have been perfect back in the day, but is probably seen as being just too old now. Tom Jane I think would likely want to soften the character to make him more 'relatable' (ala Punisher), and remove the helmet to boot, so he's out. He never really convinces me as a tough guy anyway, let alone the ultimate badass that Dredd needs to be. Whoever they pick, he needs to be a man, and look like it, and not some kid or skinny prettyboy actor. We shall see.
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There was also the Dead Man storyline 18 years or so ago. He appeared without his helmet for weeks, but acid-scarred.
And he's been seen from behind without his helmet a few times.
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...suggested Josh Brolin for Dredd. Facewise he's a perfect match. Need to bulk up some though. Could he do a Dredd voice? Tom Cullen is right - it does need to be as neutral as possible whilst still giving you the shivers.
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Was epic....
That is one of the best stories I have ever read.
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This is a glorious day for us all. Drokk it!
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As the worst film ever made.
And I'm a huge Stallone Fan.
This movie should be watched and watched again by the professionals in Hollywood and be told NOT what to do when making a comic book film.
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I want a Britishness to be on this. I feel it would help for some reason.
Jason Statham in the helmet would work for me.
How about Guy Ritchie directing and the Nolan Brothers on script?
How about Alan Moore on script? That would blow fanboys minds.
Yet it won't happen. Too cool. -
Doug Jones as DEATH. Money casting. Money Casting. That is so awesome!
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Dec 20, 2008 7:02:47 PM CST
It's interesting that two of the worst comic book films ever
by hallmitchell
Had announcements this week of a reboot.
The Phantom and Judge Dredd. -
What I just said. He is Dredd!
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join me now, in crossing our fingers
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...Adam Baldwin to play Judge Dredd.
He is 6'4'' tall and built like a brick shit house. Has a cult following thanks to FIREFLY & CHUCK, and he's worked with the likes of Stan Kubrick, Dean Devlin and Joss Whedon.
He's a respected film and TV actor, but not such a big star that he'd have a problem with keeping his helmet on. -
Stephen Baldwin
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Hell yeah, but it will never happen.
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He and Tim Roth are the best villains ever!!!!
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I AM THE LLUHH RIDES AGAIN!
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She saw him in his Oscar-nominated role in Rob Roy, and she can't differentiate between the character and the actor.
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i cant beleive im the first to put that
the reason the abc warrior(hammerstien) and mean machine angel were so cool in the 95 film is because they were the early prosphetic work of Chris Cunningham who went on to direct all those twisted aphex twin/squarepusher/bjork videos.
the problem with filming dredd is the same as batman.what he does and who he is ,is secondary to whats going on around him in the chaos that is mega city one(gotham?)
you need a complete unknown to play him ,he has to be a force of nature,fill the supporting cast with whoever you want.
YES doug jones for judge death!!
i say HBO should step up to the bar in this post heroes/wire tv world and make this into a tv show,where dredd is seen only fleetingly,cleaning up the mess of the denizens of mega city one -
and thats the point
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they'd be crazy not to go there
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Yes I am. Within minutes
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Yes, I can't believe it either . . . go ask half vader upthread.
And is prosphetic even a word? Yes, you will all have latex masks in 10 years time. -
the film makers 'get' the philosophy behind the character. When i say character i don't 'only' mean Dredd but i also mean the world its set in and the crime ridden megga city1 and also the Judge system. If the film doesn't get that righ then it just becomes another future cop movie.
The original creators of Dredd intended him to be hated by the readers. He was supposed to be a sadistic 'hanging judge'. They intended him as an oh so sneaky social comment on conservative Western society. But the plan backfired on them and the readers loved him so they had to go with the flow. Yes, Dredd is in fact sadistic at times but what makes him acceptable and even admired is the face that crim is at pandemic proportions in Mega city 1 and as horrific as an encounter with a stickler like Dredd is for any citizen, anything is preferable to sinking any further into the chaos that is life in the big Meg.
In the movie we have to see all that, we need more context for Dredd, not just showing us that he's a tough future cop in a huge city. We need to see how sacrificial the judges are too. Their spartan lifestyle allows for no personal life, even no relationships apart from the comaraderie of their fellow judges in the execution of their duty. We need to see how fair they are, no matter how harsh that fairness seems. How they are servants of the law and ultimatly the people.
Unless they can really catch the history and philosophy of the Judges then the movie will always be a shallow actioneer.
Dredd 95 was the biggest movie dissapointment of my life. There was better scenes in the console games cutscenes or even the pinball game. I am looking forward to Dredd 2010 though. ;) -
With Bonnie Franklin as Judge Anderson.Stallone's Dredd movie was great... when it was called Demolition Man.
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Last I heard.
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...comes the next step in total fucking destruction:A V A T A R - fucking your eyeballs in 2009!!!nothing else matters
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Yeah! He had Rondo Hatton's face! -The guy with that disfigurative giant disease from the old flicks - Rick Baker did a great makeup of the face in The Rocketeer.
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Dec 21, 2008 5:41:16 AM CST
simonnumbernine, the reason you can't believe it is because
by half vader
you're NOT the first. Try reading other posts! ;)
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Just in case.
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... with Johnny Depp as the Bastrad Romanov! or if you want a HBO series, how about Strontium Dog with Entourage's Adrian Grenier as Johnny Alpha, that Mutant Bounty Hunter story begs to be a series
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because Highlander II is a figment of everyone's imagination. It was never made. It couldn't have been. It just didn't happen okay.
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Dec 21, 2008 7:14:48 AM CST
The director of To Kill a Mockingbird just died
by grammaton cleric binks
Now that was a great movie about a great book. They don't make them like that anymore. They can't, it has a white person using the word nigger. Spike Lee says he owns the word.
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Clancy Brown for Dredd! Need to call his agent right now. Harry get busy and make it so.
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Titus Pullo as Dredd would be fucking awesome!
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Dredd was originally supposed to be of mixed race (so Vin Diesel would be fine). If you look at the first dtrips he's in he has prominent lips.
Also, Stallone was prepared to keep the helmet on for the whole film, the studio bosses wanted him to remove it or what's the point of paying so much money for a star you can't see? -
Biotch
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Dredd Vs Death - "Gaze into the fist of Dredd!"
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Don't worry, I's already gots youse back . . .
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To weigh in on the America Vs Britain debate... Judge Dredd was a strip written by Brits satirizing America (Dredd and the judges were 100% American), in the same way that Grand Theft Auto the video game is made by Brits satirizing America (the mock adverts and heightened reality of GTA are actually pretty similar to Mega City). The fact that this new movie is being made by Brits is therefore a positive imho - but Dredd needs to be played with a growling US accent. I also believe that one of the leading 2000AD artists stated that Dredd was modelled on Clint Eastwood (not David Carradine).
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Dredd's look was based on Death Race 2000 his attitude was based on Eastwood . . .
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Good post Filmrage I agree with you wholeheartedly. The ott action in the comic was fun but what made Judge Dredd so compelling was Mega City itself and its social set-up. If the film makers take the approach of giving the City itself equal billing to Dredd then they'll be on the right road.
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That's "Fear" not "Death".
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I am stunned by the number of Stallone defenders on this board who felt he was a good Dredd. No offense..but you CLEARLY never read the comic series...Stallone is NOTHING like Judge Dredd. Rambo is NOT Judge Dredd.
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Interesting..
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I think the 1995 movie was pretty spot-on from a design standpoint. They got the look, sound and movement of almost everything down pat. Some of those sets were fantastic, as were Mean Machine and the ABC Robot. The flying cycle looks just right, etc... too bad Stallone had to make it into such a trashy star vehicle. The CGI money shot tribute to Blade Runner still impresses me when I see it. I have actually rented Judge Dredd three or four times over the years, shoulda just bought it.
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You're right Auto, the Stallone JUDGE DREDD had great sets, costumes, and fx - clearly a ton of movie was spent on the movie. Shame the rest of it was so awful. My biggest concern for this new project is that it won't have the budget to do the concept justice... but on the plus side if they do manage to make a success out of it then they could make as many sequels as they wished to (re-using the sets, costumes, etc).
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Need an average build great actor to tackle dredd.
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Judge death needs to be tall and skinny to really go with the comic stance. I can see this being worst than the first which is hard to imagine.
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He's OBVIOUSLY the perfect choice, in terms of build, talent and experience. Why are people even debating this?
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Yet another Alan Moore creation that deserves to be adapted. Of course, it would probably work better as an Adult Swim cartoon.
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I have nothing against Jones, I'm just throwing these names out to point out that there *are* other skinny actors out there who could do the role.
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Bolland drew him as your standard superhero he-man. Mike McMahon tended to go for a more angular, skinny version. It was really strange reading the collected ones because the style of art would change dramatically every few pages.
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Dredd's look was based on a whole bunch of stuff, including the poster for Death Race 2000 and Clint Eastwood, but even so John Wagner only envisaged him as a Dirty Harry style future cop. Nobody expected that Carlos Ezquerra would chew these influences up and spit out a sci-fi psycho on a huge fucking motorbike. Even today there's only a rough guide to drawing Dredd. That's why every artist who draws Dredd draws him differently.
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In fact John Wagner hated Carlos Ezquerra's Dredd design and had to be talked round by Pat Mills.
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I'll say it loud and I'll say it proud, that movie was great fun. An un-self-conscious, piece of fun movie fantasy.
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would have been a perfect Judge Dredd
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man i watch it everytime it comes on TV, its so cool. man i wish they make movies like that again, with all that serious stuff coming from everywhere nowadays; its such a joy seeing something that doesnt take itself seriously and is light and fun. im a bit nostalgic now
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He even did all those dotted lines around the figures so you could cut 'em out! Seriously though his style was absolutely perfect and the right sort of gritty for Strontium Dog.
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Now there was a serious bad mo fo and ball buster.
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I was a huge Dredd fan and was terribly disappointed in the movie - many are right in saying the look and art direction were pretty great (i mean ABC was awesome and Mean Machine was close, though he needed to go "4" on someone!)
I don't blame Stallone, i am sure the execs told him to take off the helmet...I really, really hope they make is as satirical and smart as the comics were... And Esquerra was THE artist to draw Dredd! From the talkbacks, i think DNA might have a surprise hit if they do this right... -
apologies half vader i thought i was the first, if you look at the time of my post and then adjust that for brit city 1 time i think youll be able to work out why
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I getcha though - what was the Oz city called again? And I vaguely remember like a "Judge Bruce" or something?!
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BOK! ;P
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I am the bloody law!
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This movie is going to suck shit!! I mean really come on people, what a lame ass concept and now to redo it?!?!? AHAHAHAH GARBAGE!!!
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I can't believe that both of you would point out mr Cunningham's early work in the Judge Dredd movie and not suggest that he's now the right man for the directors seat . . .
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He's got the chin AND the voice. Or Ray Stevenson, he won't need stacked boots :-)
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Only one man can play Dredd, Clint Eastwood, and they should do "The Dead Man" story line.
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And suddenly got very scared because I follow all his stuff. Have you SEEN what he's up to lately? The VICE magazine self-portrait? The last clip he did with the alien/squid girl? Rubber Johnny (and more specifically the photoshop work in the accompanying book)?! Even if he did the ugly storyline I think it might be too much to handle - his sense of humour has, let's say "changed" a bit.
Of course I can see where you're coming from. The futuristic stuff & humour in Come on my Selector, the "Uglies" in Windowlicker, are so Dredd... -
http://tinyurl.com/7kvyv6
And don't say I didn't warn ya!!!
NSFW!
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It can be done, look at VforVendetta. Oh and Clint for Dredd.
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Doug Jones for Judge Death voiced by Andy Serkis....I'd like to see Baldwin be given a chance a decent acting role...I loved him in Firefly but the role wasnt exactly meaty was it? I think he deserves a shot at a role that would give him a chance to show his stuff and Dredd seems as good as any...
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He's great in all he's in but he's always stuck in minor backup roles. He got his big breaks in My Bodyguard, and DC Cab, but his career didn't keep going. DC Cab was awesome, and it had everybody in that. He would be a great Dredd.
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Holy shit, that's genius.
Kudos to the guy who mentioned D.R. & Quinch, btw. Hilarious comic. Love the bit when they went back in time and manipulated the structure of Earth's continents. Thousands of years later, ambassadors from Earth try to become members of the Galactic Federation. At a ceremony where the ambassadors reveal images of what Earth looks like, they are unaware of the obscene insults which our continents spell out in the alphabet of the Federation. Earth is then naturally reduced to a cinder. -
Yeah, he's not a big name, but everybody knows him. He's got the stature, the deep voice, and has used the signature Judge Dredd scowl in just about every film he's been in. And he doesn't mind having his face covered up, like V FOR VENDETTA. Hugo's the guy.
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anyone who has followed the comic book as opposed to glancing at a few panels, and deciding it makes them cool to say "I love 2000AD!!" is a moron.
The storylines of the comic book are terrible. Its a sci-fi vampire/zombie mash-up set in a world-gone-fascist where the heroes are the jack-booted stormtroopers and the villains are every single person who isn't a 'judge' -
The guy has a chin shaped like a shovel and lets face it, for all his awesome, he's not a baritone. He's more of an Irish Tenor.
Judge Dredd with a narrow "Freeze Meister" chin and the voice of an Irish Tenor.
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Yes, your post title more than sums up your "thought" process.
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one of the Fatties. Trying to think who would make a good Fink.
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Forget this John Wayne business
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Only different the electric fence jolt is quick, the movie however will be 1.5-2 hours of suffering.
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...and Ron Perlman as Dredd. That'd be a bucket of awesome right there. Base the first film on the Block Mania/Apocalypse War storyline (suitably updated with a Putinesque leader for the Sovs), and save Judge Death and the Dark Judges for the second film. Maybe have the Judge Child quest for film number three. Oh, and Judge Anderson... Uma Thurman's getting on a bit now. Maybe Kristen Bell?
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Brian Bolland is my favourite Dredd artist, probably my favourite comics artist overall. Yes Dredd is dumb and silly but that doesn't mean you have to make a movie that doesn't even get the dumb and silly parts right.
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I mean, why pay a star to have his face covered ? To drop the helmet is to guarantee big box office
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You didn't have the stones to look at that Cunningham picture did you?!
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