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Capone tips the scales in favor of SEVEN POUNDS!!!
Hey everyone. Capone in Chicago here.
So you might have already guessed from the mysterious trailer and the general lack of information regarding what the new Will Smith film is actually about that there's a big secret about this film that the studio doesn't want put out into the world prior to opening day. Well, I'm going to spoil the film's biggest secret right here, right now: SEVEN POUNDS is actually a pretty good movie. Does it continue Smith's stretch of films in which he plays extraordinary (although not always heroic) people? You bet. Does the films reek like Sex Panther of Oscar bait? Hells yes. But does that mean it's a bad movie? No. In fact, SEVEN POUNDS features what might be Smith's finest acting work to date, and I think his trust that Italian director Gabriele Muccino (THE PURSUIT OF HAPPYNESS) has opened up the actor to a new type of self-reflective performing that we just won't ever see in works like HANCOCK or I AM LEGEND, two films that had their fans (including me with the latter), but were essentially retreads of acting tricks Smith has been using since BAD BOYS.
The first thing you notice about SEVEN POUNDS is its structure: it's extremely non-linear and would appear to begin at the end. Specifically we see Smith's Ben Thomas call 911 to report his own suicide. I'll admit, I was intrigued. What immediately follows this rather blunt opening segment are flashes of Ben's world. We have no idea what comes before or after what, but the intention is to give us puzzle pieces to store away until all of the pieces have been handed to us. If for no other reason, I like SEVEN POUNDS because it is not a film you can watch passively. Your brain must be turned on and firing on all synapses. We see Ben watching or meeting with people who appear not to know him very well, but he's helping them in some way. We see him conferring with his friend and attorney, Dan (Barry Pepper), about something the lawyer is clearly not happy with, but he follows his friend's wishes to the letter. We see Ben in happier times with a woman who appears to be his wife; she is also conspicuously absent from other sequences. We see him at two different jobs: one apparently as an engineer working on a better version of the Space Shuttle; the other as an IRS agent. We see him avoid calls from his concerned brother (the great Michael Ealy), while going out of his way not to miss contact with these apparent strangers. A telephone exchange between Ben and a blind man (Woody Harrelson) working for a company that sells and ships meat is fantastically brutal, but we sense the conversation is a test.
Sometimes it's ultra clear what Ben is up to. He sees a young boy in the hospital suffering from leukemia; soon after, Thomas is donating matching bone marrow for a transplant and he's doing so without anesthetic. His suffering (physically or emotionally) seems to be an essential component to whatever it is Ben is up to. But most of what he does just adds to his mystique. Why is he messing with a kindly blind man? And why is he befriending a lovely dying woman (Rosario Dawson) with a heart defect? Why won't he talk to his brother? Why is he living in a dive motel when he clearly has the money to live somewhere better? And for the most part, these small questions kept me interested and engaged in SEVEN POUNDS.
It goes without saying that Rosario Dawson is one of the world's great beauties. She's so naturally lovely, in fact, that I'd almost be tempted to say that she's wrong for the role of Emily Posa, because even with no makeup and meant to look about as sick as a person can look, she still looks stunning. But she, like this movie, pulled me in, won me over, and convinced me that she was critical as the film's tattered and torn heart. The interactions between Ben and Emily are my favorite scenes in the movie. What begins as her being audited by Ben in his capacity as an IRS agent (a scenario I never quite bought, by the way) turns into a quiet, desperate kind of love that seems doomed before it ever becomes hopeful.
And then there's Smith's performance. He wears a look on his face for most of the film that conveys several different emotions at once: fear, desperation, guilt, but with an underlying sense of serenity. We never really get a sense that by performing these good deeds--seven in total, some of which we only hear about but never see--that Ben will somehow be free of his pain, and that's a tough sell. In most films, any good deed is met with reward for the do-gooder, but we don't get that sense from SEVEN POUNDS, and this may be tough for some audience members to accept. Smith is very strong here as the tortured Ben, who we always get the sense is deconstructing his life. His relationship with Emily is part of this, but the feelings he develops for her are unexpected if not unwanted.
If there were any other actor in the role of Ben, SEVEN POUNDS would easily pass as a small art-house film, and the stakes might not seem too high. As much as Smith adds a great deal to the proceedings, his very presence in this story undercuts many of the smaller, quiet moments the film has to offer. I wouldn't go so far as to say Smith is miscast in this work, because his performance might be the best of his career, but it is WILL SMITH, a name that carries a great deal of glossy baggage, ego and gravitas (translation: the man is desperate to win an Oscar). I did like this film overall. It perhaps sacrifices emotional depth in an effort to keep its big mystery alive. As a result, there's a cold distance that undercuts the intimacy required to make this film truly great. I admire Smith for taking a chance like Seven Pounds (I wouldn't go so far as to call the film a "risk"), but I don't see the film connecting with people, at least not Smith's typical fan base. Come to think of it, this may be the best thing about the movie.
-- Capone
capone@aintitcoolmail.com
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So little footwear.
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To bad that the film had too many flaws to be taken seriously, otherwise this would have been his 3rd Oscar nom.
Stuff like this happens all the time, although mostly the other way, when people think that bad or mediocre actors give great performances, just because they were in good movies and surrounded by great actors(like Ralph Fiennes in Schindler's List or Heath Ledger in Brokeback Mountain.) -
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But he also wants to shatter every record in box office history. He studies box office figures to know which types of movies hit and which don't.
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I'll watch pretty much anything with woody and rosario.throw in barry pepper and the mysterious trailer I'm in
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Dec 19, 2008 9:24:55 AM CST
Does Will Smith have extraordinary abilities? Will he save us?
by spyguy
Because Xenu knows that humanity is doomed without Will Smith there to guide us.
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I wouldn't have minded the movie so much if it had actually been based on the book with the same title. But it wasn't. It was a bastard child.
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Okay, as much secrecy as they have wrapped around this film, I think I've got it figured out...
It seems very close to an episode of Law and Order: Criminal Intent which involved a guy making connections with needy people and giving them money and his own organs to help them.
I was curious when I started reading about the story, but now I'm 90% sure that is the case. Things like every one of the people having physical impairments (eyes, heart?) and now knowing he reports his own suicide in the opening?
Translation - he wills his organs to these people and then kills himself to make it happen. He did something before he is guilty about and is doing this to make amends.
If would have been much more cool if they had "borrowed" more inspiration from the L&O episode...because that one had a cooler premise: when the people went back on their word and started leading lives that did not quite "measure up"...the guy came back around and started killing them.
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I'm guessing that the secret is he did something, maybe DUI, and killed Woody's family / baby and is now making amends? Am I right Cappy?
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that the baby he killed was a 7 pound newborn. Will Smiff done fucked up.
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the bitch just ruined the ending. I saw the movie last night and the review was mostly dead on. I think I liked it a little better than Capone though. If anything I think it was too subtle and not flashy enough for most people.
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Maybe he's paying the overlords for Oscar Gold.
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Probably a drunk driving incident that killed or maimed the seven strangers in various 'Butterfly Effect' ways and his suicide call is so that his heart can be harvested for Rosario Dawson. I am sorry, but this movie REAKS of the obvious. And of course he dies, as Leo DiCaprio, best way to get an Oscar nomination. Blood Diamond, The Departed, didn't get one for Titanic but it wasn't from a lack of dying/trying. While I will maybe rent, it seems soooooo absolutely obvious. Tell me I am wrong Capone. Just say I am wrong or on the right track.
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I thought bluelou was kidding but now you spoiled the ending for me. Thanks a lot.
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THE HUMAN HEAD.
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That's not how the movie ends.
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When I watch the bootleg tonight.
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Dec 19, 2008 10:57:26 AM CST
Paul Blart: Mall Cop weighs more than seven pounds
by nasty in the pasty
A *lot* more.
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This gets a good review and "Gran Torino" gets slammed? Capone, brother, I saw "Torino" and loved it...this looks absolutely awful to me (and I like Smith). What's the deal?
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Dec 19, 2008 11:02:40 AM CST
From the NY Times Review of "Seven Pounds"
by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for
“Seven Pounds” may be among the most transcendently, eye-poppingly, crazily awful motion pictures ever made."Almost makes me want to see it!
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I can't believe you fell for this vile, obvious pile of manipulative dogshit. This is one of the most intellectually insulting movies I've seen in quite some time. Bookmark this warning and thank me later.
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If you allow yourself to die from a poisonious jellyfish sting do you think doctors are going to allow your organs, especially your heart, to be transplanted to other people?!
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According to this morning's Metro Will Smith donated £79,000 to Scientology recently. Tom Cuise's adopted son also stars in this movie. Will Smith can shove 7 pounds of sandpaper up his ass... and Hancock sucked.
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Sorry Jazzy Jeff. Just ask Tom Cruise. Scientology doesn't = Oscar gold.
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all the stuff Edward Zwick makes(ok Blood Diamond toned it down alot) but all his traielrs and this shit. Times change Big Willy, you'd be better off making a film like There Will Be Blood instead.
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This movie glorifies suicide and then confuses a grieving loser giving away all of his shit because he won't need it anyway, with actual atonement. Being relentlessly depressing and having the lead character kill himself does not automatically make the movie emotionally engaging. It seems to me that AICN reviews generally echo the hyperbolic bullshit on the movie poster. This movie is falsely sentimental, emotionally confused, contrived, manipulative, boring, and pointless. This is sort of like Rudy for manic-depressives.
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http://tinyurl.com/3phdlg
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Dec 19, 2008 12:12:18 PM CST
I heard that in the movie he falls through the multiverse
by most excellent ninja
breaking and dragging reality with him thus ushering in the fifth world. FRESH PRINCE CRISIS.
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sho nuff!
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Its just about a guy that feels hes done something terrible and cant get over it and doesnt want to live anymore. Hes not trying to get over it, hes not trying to redeem himself and the film isnt giving any messages about what you should do in a similar situation. You may think hes an idiot for doing what he does, you may think hes stalking and being cruel towards people in the film if you wish, but thats simply what HIS character decides to do. Its probably not what you would do and thats fine but dont call it shite or glorification just because its not what you would do yourself. Its just about a guy who firstly wants to commit suicide and then secondarily wants to do something good with that suicide as best as HE sees fit, not as best as you might see fit or what a human consensus might consider as being the greatest thing to do. The amount of reviews on RT that hated it because they dont agree with his actions is sad, but his actions perfectly fit his character at all times.
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There are plenty of films that I love where the protagonist does things I disagree with. But in those movies they successfully deal with and explore his actions. This movie doesn't do that. If the movie is just about some guy that kills himself then my description of it being pointless is right on the money. If the movie is attempting to make us understand the characters actions (as it should be unless we're dealing with lazy film making) then it failed mightily on that end.
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Clearly his best acting, despite Ali and Pursuit of Happyness getting all the love from the critics.
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interestingly, I just saw the 'romantic drama' version of the ad, with the emphasis on the relationship to Rosario Dawson and the uplifting music. Completely opposite from the first trailer, which is darker and more mysterious. It's so interesting how marketing can completely reframe a film.
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Was the biggest pile of shit I've ever read. And could Will Smith be any more of an egotist? Last man on Earth (Army Colonel and scientist with the buff body - right), alien superhero and now life-sacrificing saint? What's next? "33 Years: The Story Of Our Lord Jesus"??! Awwww, hell no!
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Will Smith!
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The end.
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Eli Sunday: "We have a sinner with us here, who wishes for salvation! Daniel, are you a sinner?!"
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She comes close. Close enough to smell her latina breasts. And that heart. Beating inside. Capturing me, thrilling me. Makes a man want to do crazy things. Crazy things. Gotta stop thinking about it. Gotta stop thinking about the jellyfish. About going for a tango in the bathtub with all those stingers. And my heart, then, beating inside her chest. Nestled between those young latina tits. Lub dub. Lub goddamn dub. This is gonna sting a little bit. This is gonna sting. I'm the goddamn IRS agent. Time for an audit.
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What the hell is wrong with you man?
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I figured out what was up about 1/2 way through - Mind you, I went into this blind – and was impressed with both Smith and Rosario Dawson. This isn’t Lifetime Movie of the Week crap, it is much better than that. I don’t think anyone will win an Oscar from it, but the performances are very good.
I’m not understanding the hate, but then again, lets of folks here are emotionally stunted, so there you go . Also, nice job with the spoilers, dicks. **See Bluelou_doyle**. Go see Punisher again and marvel at the splatter… At least you won’t have to find a date (haha) for that flick… -
The only positive review that will ever exsist of this film! Capone, are you a scientologist?
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Dec 19, 2008 2:59:59 PM CST
My girlfriend guessed the twist of the film from...
by whinynegativebitch
...The trailer. I told her she was wrong, because it sounded too retarded. Now I have to hide this information from her so I can maintain the upper hand in the relationship.
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Rosario Dawson is pretty but I can't get past how her nostrils don't match. I'm such a dick.
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I'm now officially worried about you.
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It might be ok. I will see it just to see how everything hooks together and I have been avoiding any info that would possibly spoil it. We will see though. I can see it getting maybe 4th place the week it comes out.
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Just say NO, to this maudlin chick flick. If I wanted to watch sap and make my eyes bleed, I can get it for free on Cablevision via Oxygen and Lifetime.
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that his wife and 6 other people died in because of his design failure? And the guilt of "killing" 7 people means he has to give 7 pounds of flesh in exchange, which he does by donating 7 organs? That is really trite, but oh, it's a surprise mystery movie, right? Between that and the horrible marketing, the ridiculous poster, it sounds like this is a real turkey.
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Sometimes reviewers can dump worthless information into reviews, eh Capone? :p
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Seven Pounds?
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Whichever wins, we lose.
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This film is terrible. The suicide scene was the most laughable thing I've seen all year, and Woody Harrelson getting Will Smith's eyes was some creepy, creepy shit. For a film that tries to be uplifting, it's pretty implausible (which I could get past if the film wa sany good), boring, and absurd.
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Dec 19, 2008 6:59:00 PM CST
GORGEOUS SUPERMODEL ADRIANA LIMA GETS WILL SMIFF'S LARYNX
by bringingsexyback
Interviewer: "Ms. Lima, you are so beautiful and elegant. You epitomize the feminine ideal. You have triumphed in the modeling world, so I want to know - have you considered a career in acting?"
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"Watch out the Decepticons are gunning for you!!!!"
"Aw hail naw! Naw naw naw naw naw naw naw naw naw naw naw naw naw naw naw naw naw naw!!!" -
The words is 'reeks'. Invest in a dictionary, love. Intellectual opinion is a lot easier going down sans misspellings.
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Aw HHHHEEEELLLL Naw..! Girl? Spshhhhh
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The man is genuine, and he's a damn fine actor. Saw him on Letterman last night and read his Suicide Girls interview this morning, which had already made me decide to go see this. This just solidified that decision. Because, "but I don't see the film connecting with people, at least not Smith's typical fan base. Come to think of it, this may be the best thing about the movie", is exactly what I wanted to hear. I actually think Smith has been doing this with his last few films, his fan base has simply chosen to ignore it. If that means he can make "big budget blockbusters" into something more than they've become, then more power to him.
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That goofy face and those humongous ears...he's just Big Willie. "Now that's what I call a close encounter." Oh no he didn't.
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Gives away the whole movie. (New York Post for one.)
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...is fucking ugly. Just because she's thin and she likes comic books doesn't make her appealing. She looks like a handicapped deer.
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Minus the "billy", add the "billies".
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It only seems like a spoiler-heavy plot because the movie is so deeply deeply stupid that the only way to make the story interesting and convincing is to structure it with a highly contrived device deliberately near the end to REVEAL what's going on...but if that info was known early on, the whole mess would not be engaging or believable! I mean, this script is bad!
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Now THAT would make the film interesting: RIIIP! "Here ya go dude..." SQUISH "...take my liver! Gotta go. Someone over there needs my spleen..."
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Picture that!
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The title has to do with the Old Testiment sentiment of giving a 'pound of flesh' in retribution for wrong doings. Smith's character was responsible for killing 7 people, hence 7 pounds of flesh.
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...is the new Nuked the Fridge.
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just ask xenu.
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I'd like to add some guesswork that I think Will Smith's character had some design flaws in the space shuttle that kills 7 people. After that, he's fired and starts a new career as an IRS agent. Then he has this plan to donate his organs, his seven pounds, and this requires killing himself because he can't wait to die to help these people. Now that I've figured it out with help of Ronnie_Dobbs and Capone, I have lost what little desire I had to see this movie. I'm done with the mystery-hook movies\ads. The Crappening did that for me. I'd rather know the mystery and avoid the song and dance. I'd rather pay to see Will Smith in a Fresh Prince movie than watch another desperate attempt at drama\Oscar. I didn't buy Smith's "Tom Hanks\Cast Away" moments in I Am Legend, and I'm not buying another ticket to his movies.
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If the spoiler on The Movie Spoiler web site is accurate, this film's premise is just plain dumb, and it makes you wonder what the writer was smoking to come up with this stuff, and what Will Smith was smoking to agree to do such a gruesome and dour movie???Smith won't get the number one position at the box office this weekend and deservedly so. A film should be about popcorn entertainment and making you think, not grossing you out and making you regret that you ate the popcorn???!!!
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In a five pound bag.
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is a friend of Tom Cruise is a follower of Cruise's beliefs. Jada pinkett smith signed her husband up at cruise and holmes wedding. jim Carrey was going to join but his Partner Jenny McCarthey read him the riot act. McCartheys kid has autism and cruise's church does not believe that autism and that its all in the mind. it has same attitude to aids. so said jenna elfman. silly bint.
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avid AICN fan, i usually dont agree w/ Herc (who does:P)? but whats this review? This film is gawd awful. The pace is deathly slow. I felt like i was the one going thru a slow death. The score was aweful, the opening scene is anticlimactic, there are no redeeming qualities at all. The 'twist' is totally pointless, and its indifferent to the greater scope of the movie.
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