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The New X-MEN ORIGINS: WOLVERINE Trailer Slashes Across YouTube!!
Merrick here...
There's a new trailer for X-MEN ORIGINS: WOLVERINE in theaters this weekend.
Not surprisingly, it found its way to YouTube.
Not the greatest quality - but workable if you cross your eyes just so.
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think i'll just rewatch X2 instead
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This should be pretty cool w/out a moody frat boy version of cyclops to distract and irritate.
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i'm nearly sold
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Pretty damn sweet if you ask me!
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wow, we posted the same exact line
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Who is that playing Sabertooth? Has it changed?
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But I thought the President declared a moritorium on movies where the hero walks casually away from a huge explosion. Anyway, I like Jackman as Wolvie.
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Dec 13, 2008 5:30:35 PM CST
I saw the trailer at "The Day the Earth Stood Still."
by leafar the lost
The Wolverine trailer kicked ass! I can't wait to see it. It was better than the movie. Unfortunately, Keanu has seen better days. His career has officially begun it's downward spirl. Jon Hamm's performance sucked, and this role may end his movie career.
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Now, if they can distill all of that, only in an anti-distilling type way, make it more exciting and 50 times longer, you got yourself a sold ticket there, mister.
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Nice visuals, good music, compelling trailer ... but crappy film.
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... that shot of him walking away calmly from the explosion looks terrible.
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That looks fantastically awful. And no, I'm not hating... I'M IN for this. Looks really goofy, really comic-book, really stupid. If audiences aren't applauding and hootering during it, I'll be disappointed. Especially if there's no 'CUT HIS FUCKING HEAD OFF WOLVEEEEERINNNNNNE' yell from a studly fanboy.
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... and the vehicle flies INTO the air towards a helicopter... It's like they have no intention of this being a genuine classic.
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And So Wolverine Is Sent To Pick Up Gambit Huh? Nice Trailer, But Isnt It Suppose To Suck?
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freeken awesome
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Stryker is, what, sixty in X-Men II? So any scenes with him in have to be set post 1960. But Wolverine's fighting in the Civil War... Anyone else confused about this?
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Hugh Jackman is a great actor, I don't care what anyone says. He is very versatile and chameleon like, has the ability to pull off many different looks and personas. Shame he had to make like he was attracted to that plastic surgery mutant named Nicole Kidman in Australia.
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looks pretty decent.
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saw it on Imax screen... amazing
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From what I've heard the majority of the film is set in the 70s, but it does start right at the beginning of wolvy's life with him first discovering he's a mutant, going in the civil war and WW2 etc.
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Please, don't suck, please don't suck.
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No reason to end that fucking movie series AT ALL... if this looks as good as it does on the for real movie... then you get this guy to direct the next X-Men... fucking part 3... shitty shit movie...
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No. Nobody knows how old Logan is. Those shots of him fighting in the civil/revolutionary (?) war and WWII (?) could just be flashbacks.
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Was that part of the Sunshine score????
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Nice. This really does look amazingly dumb, but in that 'yay' way.
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Pretty cool.
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But wolverine as a kid = complete bullshit
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walked down the aisle and blocked the screen. Your fancy, HD, official trailers won't have that!Better than the pirated Comic-con video. You can hear this one.Will the movie have an Alpha Flight cameo? Many seem psyched to see Gambit but I'd much prefer seeing Puck, Sasquatch, Guardian, et al.
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danny houston is a fuckin perfect match for a younger stryker/brian cox. fuckin brilliant. this is so gonna rock.
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If Sasquatch is in this, it gets an automatic 'A' from me. People just don't give Alpha Flight enough respect.
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Read "Origin" if you haven't already. Wolverine was born in the late 19th century. That'd probably make him close to 120 or 130 years old.
In that same limited series, he was shown to have been a sickly looking pansy of a kid. That wussy little brat in the trailer seems fairly accurate. Wolverine didn't even start to become a badass until well into his late teens or 20s. Before that, he was a timid pussy of a kid. Again, read Origin.
The trailer looks good, what I could see of it actually. As far as the explosion goes, that's probably the ending - as the Weapon X lake base first seen in X2 gets dismantled. -
I did read Origin, but that didn't go anywhere near 'Weapon X.' Hence my confusion.
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I think that they're taking elements of Origin and Barry Windsor Smith's classic Weapon X story from Marvel Comics Presents. Mixed in with a few more cameos from non-WX characters such as Blob, White Queen, & Gambit.
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...turning to diamond?
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i saw too many shots of him walkin/riding away from explosions...where's his damn cowboy hat...and Remy better have a cajun accent.
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Hells yeah -- the original Alpha Flight!
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The origins comic was pretty damn neat actually.
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LOVE this trailer, but I miss some of the shots they showed at Comic Con. Like the Logan and Creed firing squad/"it tickled" scene.
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They really didn't put together a good Wolverine trailer here??? It has all the right elements to make a good trailer, but there is a tremendous lack of excitement, and or, fun in it??? It's just boring. self important, and too morose!!!
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It's sickening always reading the bitching and whining that goes on in this site. The trailer looks really good. I don't care how closely they follow the comics... just make a great movie. Just like I don't care if the new Star Trek doesn't follow TOS and thereafter... just fix it and make it enjoyable/non-cringing again. Oh: and DArk Knight WAS the best film this year and the best comic movie EVER. Eat that. Flame on!
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Deadpool needs to be wearing a red-and-black mask hiding a face that looks like an exploded pizza.
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There's maybe THREE POSTS mocking the film... and one of them is mine. Which, if you read it, said that the film looked awful but in a 'fun' way. So prior to your post, there was no flaming or ill-will.
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yes, that was music from Sunshine. That soundtrack is amazing. Man, this movie looks better than I expected. It has a 1980's action movie kind of feel. Guns n motorcycles, etc. I don't know how to explain that any better, that's just what it seems like to me.
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That's exactly it. It's like someone's made a comic-book version of Commando, with flashbacks.
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Although I remember the brilliant trailer for this shitty X3... I have high hopes for this. A Wolverine movie is just what we need.
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I hope the film will be equally as great. :)
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... I'm walking out. Seriously. Writers like Scott Lobdell took what was already some big time cliche design and ran too far with it. Remy has dropped off of the radar because, well, he sucks. He hasn't been cool for many, many years.
The Origin comic was pretty cool. I'll give you that. It's something totally deserving of its own movie. However, given the fact that Marvel wants to pay a lot of fan service, the only way to stuff it with lots of X-cameos is to focus more on Weapon X. To tie in Origin in any significant way is pretty tricky. It's not as if Sabertooth and Dog are the same character. That would make it easier Any connection or parallel between the two stories would be tenuous at best. We'll probably have to be happy settling for the "reader's digest" version of his early days.
Give it the fuck up on the Alpha Flight shit. It's just not happening. The likelihood of that happening is about as great as a rare Mother Teresa porn tape popping up. Without their connection to the X-Men, those super-mounties are fairly lame. I lost interest in the original book after issue 12 or 13 when they (temporarily) offed Mac. I tried to get into it on and off again over the years, but it never stuck. Their biggest and only contribution to comics was the first openly gay superhero. Sorry, but that's what it's aboot.
As far as the audience being underwhelmed, what do you expect? The commercials for TDTESS promoted the trailer almost as much as the movie. It's hard for ANY movie to live up to that hype. I think that this movie will both satisfy and annoy a wide range of audience. People will cheer. People will bitch. Money will be made by all. And life goes on. -
The "Sunshine" music makes the trailer. Without that score, this trailer woulda sucked. Blob will be cool because he's Keamy. Gambit will be lame because he's Friday Night Lights. Liev Schrieber > Hugh Jackman. If this ends ala Jeph Loeb head-chopping, what does it mean for X-Men's film continuity? God I hope this doesn't suck.
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Ah, Mon cherie... ah have eh little sumtttthine for yooooooo in meh hand. I will yell 'DAT'S RACIST' and leave.
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That line better be in the movie, with the intensity from the previous leaked footage, and hopefully not the very weak delivery of it in this trailer.
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'I'm gonna cut your FUCKING HEAD THE FUCK OFF' - would've been better.
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wolverine lose his memory....just curious
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It has to be early 90s. If he loses it in the 70s, surely the whole 'not ageing' thing would've gotten to him.
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In 2000's X-Men, I think that they said that Wolverine had been wandering around for 15 years with no memory of his past.
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Hugh Jackman is a great Wolverine. Not definitive, but quite, quite good. Let's hope that wasn't all the good parts of the movie right there in the trailer.
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I don't really care if this is any good or not. It'd be nice if it was awesome, but I won't stick my head in the oven like I did after Superman Returns if this sucks.
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How can anyone here already say that the movie is terrible? This is the most anybody has seen of it so far...
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Why is a Canuck fighting in the US civil war? Or did they change that shit too. Let me guess- he's American now!
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Why is a tall Australian playing a short Canadian whose posing as a blue-bollar Yankee in the Civil War?
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I was thinking the same thing. I thought he was in Canada during the civil war? According to origins he is. I guess they're gonna make him American. I don't know. Not really a deal breaker if they do that. I'm just worried that some of the action looked Really cheesy and that last interchange between wolvie and sabretooth really was underwhelming, although I like Liev Schreiber as Sabretooth. Oh who am I kidding, they got my ten bucks. PLEASE DON'T SUCK!
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I'm just saying...
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Title's sort of a mess as is, and the character's got enough cache that people would know what the hell the movie was about if it was simply called "Wolverine." But that's just me.
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I'm trying to create a new user name and can't for the life of me figure out where to go on the site to do so. Anyone wanna help me out?
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That's why they aren't just calling it "Wolverine." They already have Magneto's flick coming up, and it pretty much is on point with what Marvel does with their own books, with the subtitles and what not for each limited series and shit.
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but still ... im thinking positive for this one. it cant be any worse than xmen 3... i hope.
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Where's Alpha Flight?
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You don't think it's possible that, after having killed his father and fled Canada, he winds up in the Northern United States and is conscripted? Like, say, all of the Irish who emigrated?
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Is that a lot of comics fucking suck. As much as I love the character of Wolverine,his comics-backstory is goddamn retarded. The best thing about the first two Xmen movies is that they took outlandish characters from the comics and made them as realistic and as interesting as possible. Heres hoping Wolverine doesnt FUBAR that up.
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Needs the brown Wolverine costume. Hugh Jackman running around with claws got old by X2.
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I mean come on! They should be there, and where's Jean Grey?
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"I'm gonna cut your motherfucking head off your motherfucking body, motherfucker!" How can you not like Alpha Flight? The most messed up superheroes around. Guardian is a poor-man's Captain America crossed with Iron Man, and knows it. Puck is like 500 years old and trapped in the body of a tiny person. Northstar is a self-absorbed prick who's so in the closet he doesn't even know it. Aurora is a split personality, manic depressive, slut. Sasquatch is a guy who can turn into a Sasquatch (not messed up just really cool). Shaman is also cool because he invented the Jack Sack - the magical pouch he carries that can hold anything, just like Jack Bauer has. And Snowbird - she's named after an Anne Murray song. Try living that down!
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So if Sabretooth and Wolverine are such hated enemies why where their interactions in the first movie so underwhelming? I guess we were supposed to forget that by now.
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I can tell the Director is not a high profile Director. It should be a mediocre effort that will please the fans and get mixed reviews.
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Check and mate Mr. Twist
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I thought it looked pretty good, but I have a feeling most of the aintitcool clones are going to hate it because Harry will tell them to. All because Fox sued WB over Watchmen (because WB has lazy lawyers) or the venom filled campaign against X3 didn't work. The worst part is I'm going to sit back in my comic shop and hear customers recite aintitcool articles and talk backs as there own opinions about this. I'll never tell them I read ALL of aintitcool because I like to finish there sentences for them. Honestly, although the campaign (and that's what it was) against Fox, Ratner and X3 was so transparent, because of the bromance they have with Brian Singer. That was some of the best talk back reading ever. So let it rip boys and boys. Make some good reading.
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it's taken down
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He is very versatile and chameleon like, has the ability to pull off many different looks and personas."Versatile and chameleon like? Really? Other than Wolverine, has he really played that many different characters? Even Van Helsing was more or less Wolverine all over again. Don't get me wrong, i like the guy but if he didn't have Wolverine would he really be acting in Hollywood? I can't think of any other roles where he's excelled.
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Fox does suck and so does Ratner. I understand this "I'm trying to look cool by going against everyone else" bull shit but come on! Fox are a bunch of shit heads who can't attempt to make good movies. Max Payne would have been easy to make but they fucked that up. Watchmen will probably be what a 100 times better than this film. Don't get me wrong I'm not banning this movie or anything but look at it, it's going to be one of those movies you come out of and go "meh, it was okay I guess". I get that some of you want to defend X3 to the death to show Harry and some of these guys wrong but just stop it. That is one of the worst movies ever and for sure the worst super hero movie. When it comes to this flick I'm just glad they are using Sabertooth right because that is one thing I hated in X1. But come on Beek really? Don't take this shit so personally.
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some other guy is listed to play him on imdb, weird. i also hope they fix up wolvie to be more of a badass, none of that crying and touching flowers again.
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the claw through the humvee and the fanged smile at the end.
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Look at 1:44. Is that a toddler Storm I see?
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Sad for me that what looks like a really good comic book movie is of a character I don't really care about or have ever read.
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X-Men III was fucking terrible. End of.
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perhaps I'm behind on my X-men backstory, but isn't Wolverine's indestructibility due to his mutation? that seems like kind of a fundamental change.
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Dec 13, 2008 9:13:13 PM CST
One thing I don't think the Americans on this site get..
by themanwhojaped
In non-American cinemas (well, in British and Australian at least) people don't shout out and hoot and holler and shit for a trailer, or at any point during the movie. This preview may have been shot outside of the US.
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This looks REALLY GOOD.
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I thought the trailer was great: but for all you people against the haters lets think about this logically:
FOX has a BUSINESS PLAN, a fantastic business plan that they use on ALL their big budget movies and it makes them a ton of money:
They buy the rights to a movie with a name. By name I mean it's a known property, X-men, Hitman, Dragonball. They have BUILT IN fanbases, guaranteeing them a certain amount of money from the get go.
They put the bare minimum amount of money and effort into making the movie good. They dumb down the stories and violence to allow for the widest possible demographic. They don't trust their writers or directors to do this on their own so they meddle in all levels of production(Variety even had an article not too long ago on how Fox has a reputation in Hollywood for being unfriendly to talent)
They cut an fucking AWESOME trailer and do an advertising blitz close to the release.
They release the shit box movie into theaters without showing it to critics before hand to avoid bad reviews (think about how many times a big FOX release has a rotten tomatoe score before opening day) People go to see it cause shit man - it's a new Wolverine movie, it's a Die Hard movie, it's a Aliens AND Predator movie, I LOVE ALL OF THOSE THINGS
And by the time you're out of the theater feeling underwhelmed and dissappointed they already have your 10 bucks, they make their profits, wash their hands of the film, and MOVE ON TO THE NEXT NAME PROPERTY
I thought the trailer was great, and I want the movie to be just as awesome. But I know how it works, and I'm not getting my hopes up any time soon
And yes most studios are like this....but I'd like to think when comparing their track records that they at least somewhat care about making a decent movie in the process.
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I didn't see him in the trailer. Hopefully FOX keeps him a being sort of surprise for the movie. Like Deamworks did with Tropic Thunder. Fox has been pretty good at keeping this movie under wraps hopefully they don't blow there load and ruin everything in the tv spots and ads.
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Wolverine's healing factor allows him to heal from any wound, but I believe earlier on in the comics, it was his adamantium skeleton that made him indestructible due to the fact that it prevented any type of fatal blow (i.e. cutting his head off). however, in the last few years, Wolverine has been reduced to a single cell and still has been able to regenerate, so...who knows.
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this looks more badass and more like a real story than the x-men films, which werent bad at all themselves. But this one looks like it could compete with Dark Knight.
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looks that good to me.
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Dec 13, 2008 9:34:23 PM CST
Yep, freydis, you're behind in your X-men backstory...
by skyway moaters
Wolverine's mutation is a "healing factor". His body can recover from damage that would kill a normal human being and does so in mere minutes (depending upon the severity of the damage). Every time his Adamantiun claws are extruded, they create exit wounds, which heal pretty much instantly. What makes him "indestructible" is the fact that the military-industrial-complex bastards he turns himself over to out of grief, have developed a surgical procedure that allows them to "lace" his skeleton with Adamantium as well (a fictional metallic or crystalline substance which has seen extensive use in works of fantasy, comics, cartoons and video games. It is so named because of the word "adamant", meaning unbreakable), which results in his bones being unbreakable. The irony of, and much of the pathos surrounding the character, is that anyone not possessing Logan's healing mutation, could possibly survive the surgical procedure needed to reinforce his bones with Adamantium. So, yes, for most practical interpretations, Wolverine *IS* "indestructible".
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Dec 13, 2008 9:50:02 PM CST
Were those Mike Nelson and Joel Hogdeson taking their seats?
by nasty in the pasty
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Aw shit, that's just piss-poor sentence construction and no excuse. Sorry.
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Lame. Everything here was done before and done WAY better. Claws down the truck? Way better when Morphius did it in Matrix Reloaded. Turning the bike with his claws? Way better when Loz did it in Advent Children. However, I did like Gambits staff pound limit break.
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Only thing I hate more in contemporary action/horror/thriller trailers is the portentious, subwoofer **BOOM** added to accentuate certain cuts. Arrrrrgh.....
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anybody else see a little blonde black girl in there besides me?
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A rip roaring action and comedy movie for the ages.
Not this dumb cameo with a dumb actor.
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the crowd loved it-the whole thing, but i wanted to laugh at wolvie's wild ride on the helicopter. youtube doesn't show how greenscreen bad it looked. i laughed. other than that, it looked good. apparently that scene just 'launches the wolvie'
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Not sure if you have ever actually been to America and if so which theaters you are going to, but that never happens in America either unless its something like Star Wars Ep 1 or Indiana Jones or the like.
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Gambit has come out of the closet too I see.
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Needs Anna Paquin nudity, though.
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Lady Deathstrike's back-story? Another healing factor mutation? Never mind: From Wikipedia: Lady Deathstrike (Yuriko Oyama), occasionally spelled "Deathstryke," is a Marvel Comics supervillain, a foe of the X-Men, especially Wolverine. She first appeared as Yuriko Oyama in Daredevil #197 and later as Lady Deathstrike in Alpha Flight #33. Her father Lord Dark Wind created the adamantium-bonding process that was forced on Wolverine. A self-styled warrior, Lady Deathstrike hired the villain Spiral’s "body shoppe" to bond adamantium to her own skeleton in addition to other cyber-genetic enhancements. She has since worked as a mercenary and assassin and feels a need to prove herself by killing Wolverine.
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looks like we have a stellar movie year coming fast. be prepared all.
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Dec 13, 2008 10:48:18 PM CST
first impression: looks better than so many "other" superhero
by future help
flics. IM THERE.
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I HATE the idea of wolverine having claws pre-weapon x. It makes SO much more sense that they gave him that claws with the skeleton as part of the project, and his healing abilities made them usable. I preferred it when his only real mutant ability was healing. Oh well. It's FOX. I'll take what I can get. It'll be so great if the movie rights eventually go back to Marvel and they can reboot.
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abides.
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I see you've never been a theater when a preview for a movie starring a rapper came on...
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And I'm officially over slow motion shots of someone walking towards the camera unfazed while something blows up behind them.
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Understatement of the year
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I still have the Empire magazine from a decade or more back which had a feature on different theatre experiences. There were at least a couple of countries where people were firing automatic weapons into the roof during the movie.
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OMG OMG Yesss yessss yessssssss!!!! Chills. Screaming. I am SO there.
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That was a cold-ass reaction from the crowd. I thought it looked great!Let me mourn in advance the fact that it won't be "R" rated...
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nice.
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You're in the shot.
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Yep. Boring.
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What a shock.
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Am I the only person that prefers the Apocalyptic Choir of Doom to the Requiem for a Dream theme in trailers?
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...but if they do it pulpy enough, that could turn out to be a good thing. Some of it looks cheesy, while other parts, especially a few of the slo-mo action clips, look interesting and unusual. I hope they really give this one some style, and not just safe Hollywood shooting & editing. (Hated to see yet another "walking slowly away from an explosion" shot--note to Hollywood: we've seen it. Stop it.)It's too bad this isn't the event movie it once could have been, before X3 dampened most enthusiasm and time took care of the rest.
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or just some chick who turned solid?
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For his origins in the film, they went probably 20 years earlier than the Origins comic book, since he's in the Civil War. In the comic, he was still a kid around the Civil War. Tyler Mane is a wrestler. Liev Schreiber is an actor (and a damn good one). That's all you need to know.
Deadpool is in the trailer (though it's Ryan Reynolds without the cancer face, so maybe they'll uglify him in the movie and they're saving it), as is Blob and Gambit, but I'll have to wait for the real website release to freeze for details. If the diamond kid is Emma Frost, than that's a departure from the comics, since the diamond thing is a 'secondary mutation' introduced in Morrison's run, similar to Beast going from ape-like to cat-like. It's not something she had as a kid. In fact, her fairly decent prequel series showed her life as 'the unattractive sister' in a rich, privileged family, who screws over her family in revenge for how they treated her and then transforms herself through makeovers and plastic surgery. It's her telepathy that's her original mutation.
Iammr.monkey, Hugh Jackman has done quite a bit more films than just X-Men and Van Helsing. Even before his screen career, he had a pretty strong stage career where he never once played a brooding, mutant psychopath. He was Curly in Oklahoma, for Chrissakes. Do some research.
The adamantium claws are a part of the adamantium skeleton. The skeleton wasn't added later or something. When he has the adamantium ripped from his body by Magneto, we see that he has bone claws. So the Weapon X folk put the adamantium claws on top of the real claws.
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Looks X2 good!
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There's about 3 movies worth of potential stories and characters in that trailer...
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Yeah, Grant Morrison wrote that Secret Garden Little Wolverine On The Prairie bullshit out as a false memory implant. And Weapon X isn't the letter X, it's the Roman numeral for ten. Weapon Ten.
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Sort of, because they never stated before that, that there were bone underneath the claws. It was generally assumed that the claws were added by Weapon X.
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I'm pretty sure Morrison didn't do anything with the Origin miniseries, and that it's still canon.
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Hate all you want, I'mma help it make money.
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Damn You Michael Bay
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New X-Men #145. Casts every part of Wolverine's past and origin into doubt. Besides, Wolverine is way cooler without any kind of definitive origin.
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Timothy Dalton was to James Bond.
He looks like he fits the role, but he's a bit too clean cut and a bit too boring.
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damnit
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It didn't look good anyway (I mean the youtube vid! Hope it gets a QT release soon)
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They BLEW it with 3. They could have made X-movies for forever, now people (read paying movie-goers) will drop off with every desperate prequel.
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Pointless of them to try to keep videos off the web.
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IT LOOKS AMAZING
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Dec 14, 2008 3:02:25 AM CST
"New X-Men #145. Casts every part of Wolverine's past and origin
by rsanta74
Then again, hasn't Marvel done its level best to wash away the Morrison years?
In spite of the slaughter in Genosha, Morrison populates the mutant community with millions of mutants. Not only are they they the next stage in human evolution, homo sapiens are soon to be extinct. Marvel's response? Get Scarlet Witch to cry "no more Mutants" - which effectively depowers 99% of all mutants and makes mutant births damn near impossible.
Morrison takes them out of colorful costumes in favor of uniforms, effectively changing them from superheroes into a proactive & nonprofit class of superhumans. Marvel's response? Back in costumes.
Morrison populates the mansion and turns it into a thriving school. Marvel's response? As if depowering them wasn't bad enough, Marvel blows up a bus load of the remaining kids and slowly picks off a handful more one by one.
Morrison came up with the brilliant idea of secondary mutations, mostly to give Emma strength & invulnerability in light of his inability to use Colossus. Marvel's response? Secondary-wha? When was the last time, outside of Beast or Emma have you seen this concept used or even explored?
Morrison has Magneto pose as the friendly zen teacher Xorn, betray the team, kills Jean, and then subsequently kills Magneto too. Marvel's response? Xorn? Xorn? Oh, you mean the crazy oriental dude POSING as Magneto. No. No. The real Magneto is alive and slumming around somewhere else.
If you look back on it, who retconned what really? Marvel used Morrison's run as a convenient tie-in of sorts to the movieverse X-Men. They used it to draw in new viewers. When they got tired of it and decided that Whedon was to be their new golden boy, just about everything that Morrison did got wiped away like turd on TP. When Jean Grey eventually returns, as we all know she will, Morrison's run will be for nothing. Leaving little more than fond memories in the hearts and minds of fans.
But really.... Did you expect any less from Marvel, who used a bullshit pact with the devil to wipe Spider-Man's entire marriage out of existence?
Not to sound like a whiny fanboy (too late), but Joe Quesada is long overdue a replacement. He's lasted about as long as any other EIC, maybe longer. Short of the craptaculuar Jeph Loeb or has-beens like Claremont or PAD, I'll take anybody else as EIC at this point. -
If you are canadian you get Universal Healthcare. If you are a super hero from Canada, you get healing powers. Sweet.
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...trailers
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...comes the next step in total fucking destruction:A V A T A R - Fucking your eyeballs in 2009!nothing else matters
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Isn't the point that comic books are a fluid medium. Nothing is ever really set in stone. If I think that the crappy Origin story didn't really happen, was just an implanted memory, then it didn't. But those who say it's "real" are right, too. It's called "hyper-continuity" and Grant Morrison invented that, too.
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Saw the trailer at the movie last night, looks great to me! Now I have to hear it from sorry-ass fan boys how it sucked. So the fuck what it won't have Alpha Flight, who wants to sit thru a 3 and a half hour XMEN movie?! And no, it won't be a movie version of Origins, a book that should have been called Wolverine: Retconned! Just enjoy the movie for what it is. If Gambit has a cajun accent, STFU, he's cajun! I consider myself a comic book geek, but Goddamn, some of you guys take the geek cake!!! Just dig the fact that Hollywood is stuck on comic book movies now.
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Nothing else matters
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I mean seriously.... X-Men 1 and 2 were good, X3 was utter shit! Who gives a fuck about any of it being true to the comic or not as long as its not another 2 hour long ass fuck fest like X3... Iall i wanted was a goddamn sentinal, and i got a fucking shoot of Jeep headlights in the mist and a rolling head, A GODDAMN HEAD! At least THIS time we know Gambit is in the fucking movie and just mugging the screen so Marvel can go "fuck you, we gave you Gambit" like they said "fuck you, we gave you Venom" in Spider-man 2 which, like X3, was also utter shit. I dont even know what the fuck i am mad about any more... fuck all you people I am going to go see this movie anyway with low expectations so i can save all my rage for when Star Trek comes out 2 weeks later and lays a steaming loaf in my cherios.
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It is suspected that as many as 100,000 Canadians served on the Northern side, but the figures are debateable... some say its as low as 40,000. No one knows how many Canadians served the South. Though some Southern raiders used Canada as a base of operations to launch attacks into Vermont. So... Logan could have been Canadian and worn either color in the US Civil War.
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AMEN bro...
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Thanks.
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I have to say, it looks ok from the trailer. It can't be as bad as that steaming pile of shit X3.
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Damn, this guy is one charming bastard! He even helped a politician out of a garbage can! (Yes, it makes sense when you see it.)
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i guess FOX wants me to see that 'stood still remake just to catch the trailer. Fuck em!
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Quite telling, that the same guy pimping Avatar in every talkback also loves x3.
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No, I don't need to "do some research" because, unluckily for you my friend, I already knew he was famous for his role in "Oklahoma" and was aware that this was what propelled him into Hollywood.What I was pointing out is that Hugh Jackman has a schtick and it's being Clint Eastwood mark 2. He played that role in Swordfish, he played that role in the X-Men movies and he played that role in Van Helsing. You could argue he even played that role in Kate & Leopold with a few twists. Although I've not seen it, I hear he's pretty much the same in "Australia" only this time he actually goes full Clint and plays a cowboy. The above TBer called him a "chameleon" and i was refuting that claim.I watched "Milk" yesterday where Sean Penn disappears completely into the role of a forty-year old gay man. If someone said Sean Penn had "chameleon" qualities I would not argue with them. If someone said Doug Jones had "chameleon" qualities I wouldn't argue with them. If someone said Christian Bale had "chameleon" qualities I wouldn't argue with them (although he seems to be currently stuck playing the gruff voices American hero at the moment).I hope I have made my point clearly enough for you.
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other than that it looks alright. Way better than any of the previous X-MEN flicks.
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...I think that saying that he is doing nothing else than an Eastwood Schtick is pure bullshit, especially if you mention Swordfish and Kate & Leopold to prove your theory.
This goes even more if you give Christian Bale chamelon qualities. Bale has charisma and that helps him to make the audience accept that the yuppie from Shaft is the protagonist of American Psycho and that the same guy is suddenly trying to save Gotham City. But except for the movies that he made as a kid, I always see Christian Bale. It's not that I hate him or think that Jackman is a better actor, but none of them is a Chameleon. -
Did the ushers give out crack?
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The quality isn't that good, but try this: (remove the space in vimeo) http://www.vi meo.com/2520804
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Bitching? Fuck off. I said the film looked awesomely bad. Which means I think it looks fun. And that ISN'T bitching. The only time I 'bitched' was when some idiot came in and started yelling 'HOW DARE YOU PEOPLE HATE THIS FILM BEFORE SEEING IT?' which was fucking moronic considering how maybe THREE people had 'hated' it, one of them being me... and I DIDN'T 'hate' it.
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Which I believe to be absolutely terrible. If it's that... fuck, it was terrible.
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And "Secondary Mutations" was one of the laziest, most arbitrary ones around. But I'll second the idea that Quesada has been around long enough... arbitrary changes for short term sales buzz seems to be his entire editorial style. I don't mind big changes when they come out of a well crafted story, but that's not what Marvel does these days. They make a big change, come up with a thin excuse for it, and then promise that maybe in a year or so they'll explain it in dribbled bits of information dropped here or there. Oh, but the Wolverine trailer looks pretty cool, and Hugh Jackman makes a more appealing Logan than the one that appears in the comics.
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I know it doesn't make any sense, continuity wise, but still...
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Broody, moody and dark, just how I like my movies.
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Wait, so this movie looks like it might actually be pretty good judging by the trailer, but I've been burned by trailers before. We'll see how it gets reviewed. So we gotta have some of Wolverine in Japan, possibly going up against the Silver Samurai? Might be too much for this one film though, but maybe in a sequel.
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In a blink or you miss it moment, you will see a kid Wolverine extending his claws while lying on his side on the ground. Since he did not have the metal coated skeleton at that point, we can assume they are bone.
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On May 1st we can forget X3 ever happened.
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I want to see Watchmen more than anything else. I really liked the Dark Knight, but I think Watchmen is going to be the standard bearer once it hits. I am older so I read Xmen in the 70's and have some of the 60's issues. I loved it then but could not get into it in the big boom era of the 90's. Starman with Robinson...Astro City....Mage..first run...those get me back into comics. I liked the xmen movies but something was missing to really get them to stand out.
Just my thoughts.
Go watch Watchmen. Who watches the Watchmen? I do.
What will will Watchmen be called in Switzerland? Swatchmen
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Keep Jackman, Keep Patrick Stweart, Keep Ian McKellan, dump everyone else.
As to Superman, keep Routh, dump everyone else.
Start fresh. Clearly this financial crisis has not stopped Hollywood from spending $100M without a backwards glance, so lets at least go deeper into recession with some good movies to show for it! -
UGH...
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I had forgotten the logic that with the adamantium no one could cut his head off or such.
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Watching it was like little Jamal's escape from the outhouse in Slumdog Millionaire.
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I hope you are expressing your dissatisfaction with the 90's CG morning cartoon of the same name, and not making a commentary on my post. I will have your silence!
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I'm not disagreeing with you about comics being a fluid medium. When one thing builds on the next that's great. My only concern comes from a sort of emotional investment built by the readers themselves.
When Marvel sweeps 20 years worth of Spider-Man stories under the rug that's something to be concerned about. Sure, they're saying that all of the stories happened, but c'mon. We know that they want everything since the late 80s wiped away. Joe Quesada wants the Spider-Man HE grew up with. He wanted the Spider-Man from teh 60s and 70s.
Similarly, they have buried Morrison's run. It hasn't been forgotten so much as it has been ignored. Morrison came in to clean house and make way for new ideas. The X-books were stagnating under the mountains of crap left by the likes of Lobdell during the 90s. Morrison reinjected X-Men with a new sense of life and purpose, beyond the "underwear on the outside" mindset.
Along comes Marvel to happily sweep those changes under the rug in favor of business as usual. Now, we're stuck with stories that are simply BAD rehashes of classic Claremont/Byrn era greatness. In every damn X-book, there's a lot of sentimentality. Everybody's looking to the past. Graydon Creed gets resurrected. Bastion comes back to life. Cameron Hodge too. Angel becomes Archangel again. The young students fight Donald Pierce for the one billionth time, as their predecessors did 25 years ago.
There's no forward thinking in most of the X-books nowadays. This whole thing about the messiah baby and the decimation is supposed to be about that. In reality, it's just a rehash of the angsty bullshit of the Legacy Virus days mixed with a healthy dose of "Children of Men." That's not forward thinking. That's recessive along with a healthy dose of parallel.
Comics as a fluid medium are great when the river runs forward. It sucks when they pool of creativity spins cyclically. Marvel brought in Morrison to distill the characters to their bare essentials. They brought him in to strip away the heaps of garbage wrought on them by years of excess. With that done, they figured that they had a nice "do over" scenario where they could tell new stories. Instead, they simply cleaned the slate so that they could write the same old ones instead. -
And yet Squirrel Girl kept her Powers. Squirrel Girl pwns All.
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Dec 14, 2008 12:31:28 PM CST
Keep Jackman, Keep Patrick Stweart, Keep Ian McKellan
by chocolatejesus
Why?? They suck! I don't want some soft, pussy Wolverine and Xavier/Magneto who are about a pair of tights away from quoting Shakespeare. I want good science fiction! They need someone to adapt the X-Men that has some genuine vision of their own. That's why people like Grant Morrison write great comics, even if they change things that people don't like, and most everyone else is just a shelf-filler. Ed Brubaker? Give me a fucking break. All the X-Men movies sucked to various degrees (2 was the best, but still pretty white), it just took you guys until 3 to figure it out.
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I'm right there with you about Morrison's run. I'm a big fan of Morrison and it started with that run (I actually didn't read Animal Man and Invisibles until recently). I thought he elevated the X-Men story to the next level, in a way appropriate to the next level. Having it be about evolution, rather than just civil rights issues (though I still think it was important to start the movies that way, because that's the classic X-Men paradigm). Now I do disagree that Whedon's run set things back. I think that Whedon's intention was to do a self-contained story on the side that both old and new fans would love, and he could go back to basics with Kitty and Colossus, and comment on Scott and Emma and develop them further post-Jean, and even build on Morrison's characterization of Beast and his secondary mutation, as well as the Cassandra Nova concept (in terms of Emma). Uniforms aside, I think Whedon honors both the classic Claremont and Byrne, AND Morrison.
However, the main flagship titles of X-Men have been horrible since Morrison, and I do agree that these titles have buried Morrison's interesting concepts. The Mike Carey stuff was terrible, the New X-Men and Young X-Men 2nd tier teams have been awful, and Messiah Complex was an overwrought mess. Even Brubaker, who rocks so hard with Captain America, Iron Fist, and Daredevil, couldn't come up with anything interesting. For me, X-Factor has been the only engaging X-book besides Whedon in the last five years, and even that started to slip right before Secret Invasion. Now granted, I'm a few months behind on my reading, and I'm just settling into the San Francisco status quo, but I don't see it improving any time soon. So yeah, the X-books definitely squandered Morrison's genius. -
"appropriate to the next millenium"
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...for his healing abilities to kick in.
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DerLanghaarige kinda made my point for me. Sure, Jackman's not a chameleon, and he has resorted to a certain schtick with a certain 'kind' of role. But he is versatile. Speaking of Christian Bale, Jackman's role in The Prestige was pretty different, as was Kate and Leopold, and that Woody Allen movie he did. If all he did was broody, feral action heroes, then he certainly wouldn't be hosting the Oscars.
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was the worst thing that ever happened to X-Men. It was one of the main reasons I stopped reading the X-Men. The idea of 'secondary mutations' was another nail in the coffin. I loved the first and second movies, couldn't watch the third one all the way through. I hope this is good, but my expectations are pretty low.
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Marvel should say to the Studios. let our writers who know the characters write the movies or at least have some input into the scripts or character developments. in that way talkbackers who complain about the comicbook adaptation will have pause for thought. this idea of marvel writers having some say into script developement will only happen when they get control of thier own movies. when marvel becomes a proper film company.
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Dec 14, 2008 2:12:59 PM CST
i'm sick of heroes walking away slowly from explosions
by jimmyjoe redsky
even in iron man it was a lame cliche
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as someone demanded. whose to say that the same people will filng more abuse at the new x-men movies and the company that makes them. talkbackers will complain if some genius says hey lets recast them all has teens. or they will complain if the wrong actresses are cast for the spin off movies(if there any). Halle berry cant act for toffey. It didnt stop her being verbally attacked by a fan whilst out shopping. She had to call security. things nearly got very ugly.
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I do have hope for this one, if the cameos are cool. You know when you're watching a movie and someone pops up you weren't expecting, or haven't seen before? Jackman can pull this off by bringing in enough people we want to see. Deadpool and Gambit better be done right, though. Fuck this one up, and no one will want a sequel.
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Dream ending? Avery Brooks shows up from the future at the very end with a big "M" tattooed on his face, claiming he's here to take out a traitor.
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the only way fox was going to get asses in the theater for this colossal piece of crap was to play the wolverine trailer in front of it....
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Dec 14, 2008 2:21:40 PM CST
i'm also sick of the expression "fucking your eyeballs"
by jimmyjoe redsky
"avatar" my ass
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I think there was talk of Marvel developing into Studio or some such thing. Might not be a bad idea. in that way they can have certain input into the movie making process.
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I saw the trailer with "The Day the Earth Stood Still." It looked great! I wanted to watch it again when I got home so I did the old google search. I couldn't find an official website promoting "X-Men Origins: Wolverine" at ALL! Does Fox not care about the movie? I would love to have seen some stills or maybe a cool wallpaper and even watch the new trailer again but nothing. It doesn't make sense.
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http://www.marvel.com /movies/X-Men.X-Men_ (2000) Take out the spaces.
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Cameron's gonna kick your asses through the back wall of the theater.
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Thanks but I don't consider that the official site. It has no real updates and doesn't even mention the new trailer. The "news" section mentions Hugh Jackman will host the Academy Awards. Really?
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Jackman comes across has too "girlygirl" to be a good representation of the character. I dont see feral when i see Jackman. I see an advert for mens grooming products. Remember wolverine/logan/Weapon X has done terrible terrible things. You wouldnt want to sit in a room or bar with him. I still wonder how the X Men movies would have been if Dougray Scott was cast has Logan. Reread "Enemy of the State" to understand where i am coming from.
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I like Hugh but always thought Mel Gibson should have been Wolvie. The right size and attitude.
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When the trailer (its reason to exist) isn't?
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yeas - i know - except, i think certain institutions should stick to what theyre best at - and try to be the best in that field - like marvel making comics (although im a dc guy) - let real movie studios make the movies - i dont see "marvel the movie studio" making anything other than marvel comics movies for the foreseeable future - but i guess thats their intent - with the exception of iron man, theyre not blowing my socks off yet
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jackman is a song and dance man that acts, like cagney - so, there is that - but i think he is fine as wolverine, except for the height, build and body hair difference - in a perfect world we would have a wolverine that completely looks the part - 5'11", built like a tank and hairier than robin williams
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I thought he was supposed to be about 5'4'' or so, a small, furry, vicious killer, kind of like a...wolverine.
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That's how the "Hugh Jackman"-running gag in Scrubs originated.
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All slo-mo and pumped up and almost too camp and crappier looking than X3 by miles!Fingers crossed but i think it looks like a real stinkbomb!
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from the Wolverine"Origin" mini-series?
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i'm not expecting it to be amazing. but you know there will be some good stuff in it even if it's not perfect. i can't think of a better wolvie than jackman.
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Out of all comic book characters, Wolverine's the hardest to cast. Jackman was decent, compared to what else they could've handed us. My big bitch with X3 was a Colossus who had NO SOVIET ACCENT! What the fuck was up with that? Colossus was SOVIET!!!! It's like, intricate to the character. I know Hollywood likes to "change things", but don't rob the character of the core facts, right? Motherfucker could've faked a Russian accent, right? It didn't even have to be a good fake. Just try! For us nerds! Try!
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Hugh Jackman to host the next Academy Awards ceremony http://artsbeat.blogs. nytimes.com/2008/12/12/ hugh-jackman-to-host-academy-awards/
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to be Wolverine but was injured or had another movie lined up? Pretty sure I heard this.
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is that they make worse actors than one-hit wonder rappers, and that's saying a lot. If they didn't have to learn how to read first, before they read the scripts, they might have more time to hone their craft.
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Don't forget about The Fountain, people, or I know it wasn't a movie, but "The Boy From Oz." Yeah, Sean Penn's not the only one who can "disappear" into the role of a charismatic gay man. Jackman was fantastic in that show. But he does have questionable taste in movie scripts - no argument there.
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i was being kind - i originally typed 5'10" - figuring most marvel heroes and xmen are 6' and taller - wolverine looks compact in the comics alongside everyone else - i wouldnt call him tall - i remember first seeing the xmen movie and thinking "wow, they made wolverine a tall guy" - and slim for that matter
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and Grant Morrison.
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thats hugh's problem - i like hugh jackman - i liked him in the prestige and i like him in the fountain and as wolverine, but he is no sean penn or deniro - when i see jackman on screen, i think "its hugh jackman" - same with nicolas cage - they dont look like regular people (penn does) - one of the pitfalls of stardom - your face recognition trumps your acting ability
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Dec 14, 2008 8:45:10 PM CST
wolverine was built in space not on earth, strike one
by jimmyjoe redsky
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Dec 14, 2008 8:53:18 PM CST
Built in Space? WTF are you talking about, is this some post 200
by stormwatcher
Cuz it was always Canada, always the winter. Always awesome that they blame us Canucks for the BS in his life. Ask Puck, he wasn't there but I am sure Wolvie told him at the orgies with Captain Canada.
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...but there's still this: http://is.gd/9UAW
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MI2 was having continual delays which was getting in the way of X-MEN starting. So at the last second Wolvie got recast.
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..why in the hell would you pull a piece of marketing that is produced in order to create interest in your product????
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Dec 14, 2008 11:11:32 PM CST
why do people who hate sorry ass fanboys come on this site?
by crazybubba
Here's some advice. If you don't like them and you don't want to hear them go to a site without them that reviews movies.
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Jackman sucks
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All you have to do is look at the ads for the day the earth stood still. Why see an okay movie when the deal maker is available on Youtube?
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No doubt it is coming out this week in QuickTime. FOX doesn't want bootlegs until that happens. They want people to go see TDTESS in order to see Wolvie.
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X-Men came out and everybody was like: "Wow, Bryan Singer made a great comic book movie and that Jackman guy IS Wolverine!" (Don't deny it. I remember you saying this!) Then it came out that Singer is gay and Jackman has a musical background and now you are like: "Singer ruined the franchise and Wolverine is way too feminine."
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I think there are some people on the talkback who are homophobic.
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...out of Windsor into Detroit! This is a job for ALPHA FLIGHT!!!
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This ones gonna suck worse than X3.
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Looks like MySpace has posted the official trailer (with HD versions). Unfortunately you have to add them as a friend in order to see it.
Looks like they finally added an "official" site even though nothing is really there yet.
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that's my recollection as well. once any franchise is too successful i guess the backlash is inevitable. i had no problem with any of the X-movies, including 3. death of Xavier was very emotional, as was Wolvie gutting Jean.
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Much more impressed than I was with the Stamp-O-Vision rip. Still just trailer. The movie could certainly blow. However, based on this fairly good trailer, I'm more interested in the actual movie now.
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High def trailers are up
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Figure what spaces to remove yourself.
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480p --->
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720p ---> http://largeassets.myspacecdn.com/creative/hd/wolverine_trlA/48043679_720p.mov
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Beat me to it, Justice. Muggafugga! =)
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I'm there.
Zeddmore, Wolverine's mutation makes him age very, very slowly. I'm not sure what his age is, canon-wise in the comic, but it's easy to imagine him in every American war and still be around today. In the X-men movies, it is conceivable that he's a couple hundred years old. -
You whining assholes! See the movie first, then bitch you crybabies!
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Eh, now if John Noble (Walter Bishop on Fringe) had played Stryker in X2, then yeah, Huston would fit.
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..but it looks so stupidly bad.... I was really looking forward to this. The lighting sucks. The DP should be shot..
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