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Quint reports in on Ray Park and his involvement on X-MEN, SLEEPY HOLLOW, STAR WARS EPISODE 2, plus Warwick Davis news!
Hey folks, Harry here. Quint mentions Ray Park's non-denial quote regarding his alleged involvement in the X-MEN movie. Now, I've heard that Ray is in as The Toad... But that should be taken as a RUMOR, because I don't have that confirmed yet, but it is the buzz I've heard. Anyways... here's Quint!
Hey, Harry. I got a little info. about Ray Park at the Sci-Fi Con. in Plano
today. Here it is.
During the Q&A with Ray Park (packed house, by the way) somebody asked about
a rumor that he was involved with the X-Men film. Park's demenor changed a
little and he said, "Possibly. I can't really say."
The thing is, somebody asked him a question about him playing a role (either
acting wise or behind the scenes) in Episode II and he said something along
the lines of: "I really don't know. If they had told me something, then told
me not to tell anybody, then I'd say that. But I really don't know." So, him
saying the can't say anything about the X-Men... well, draw your own
conclusions.
By the way, I didn't know this until today, so I'm guess a lot of you out
there don't know either, but Park does all the stunts for the Headless
Horsman in Sleepy Hollow. Sleepy Hollow's stunt coordinator, Nick Gillard I
believe, if you'll excuse the possible misspelling, is the same guy that did
Episode I. So, Park said that every stunt (fighting, jumping, etc) with the
exception of the horseriding stuff, done by the Headless Horseman is all him.
Just thought you guys would be interested.
-Q
PS Warwick Davis says he starts shooting Leprechaun 5 next week. Something
about the Leprechaun being in "da hood" with rap music, etc, etc. Think what
you will.
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even if you totally 100% hated The Phantom Menace (and a lot of you do) if anybody disses Ray Park I'll feed you a double-bladed lightsaber rectally (I have a painting of Darth Maul my gf made, way too sweet. . .*wipes drool*) I really didn't wanna see Sleepy Hollow until I heard Ray was in it, (so the Headless Horeman's stunts ought to be fuckin' amazing) Same for X-Men, but if Darth Maul and Captain Picard are in it my ass is in opening night for sure. PS- I doubt he'll be involved for episode II, I just hope it has more 1 on 1 (or 2 on 1, as the case may be) lightsaber action than TPM. Oh yeah, who wants to bet that Darth Sidious picks up a replacement for Darth Maul? I don't think so, I think that's the main reason he goes after Anakin: fresh meat.
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Jul 12, 1999 12:20:32 AM CDT
Warwick Davis should have played Dr. Miguelito Loveless in the "
by uncapie
Oh, well, another casting bluder in Hollywood's realm of idiocy!
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Yup, I WAS gonna start this post by saying I HATED TPM 100%, but that would be slightly inaccurate. If I hated it totally, then I'd also dislike Ray Park's Darth Maul (which I don't). HE WAS THE ONLY GOOD THING ABOUT THIS MOVIE, THOUGH!! However, Lucas decided to be a COMPLETE ASSHOLE and criminally underuse him. I think GL has no regard for Park's acting ability, so he kept his scenes & dialogue to an absolute minimum. Whether RP CAN actually act remains unknown at this point, Lucas never gave him a chance. But with kick-ass fighting skills like he possesses, we don't exactly NEED him to act, now do we? However, one thing is for sure: without Darth Maul in TPM, the movie would've been a TOTAL 100% FUCK-UP!!!
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Yes, anyway, I've just recently found this site, www.capalert.com, and it's freakin' hilarious. I'm still having a little trouble working out if they're serious or not. If all christians think like this, we're really in trouble. Look at the sort of stuff they had to say about episode 1: "No, not one single instance of foul language or nudity or sexual activity was noted! And no drugs/alcohol! And not one instance of God's name in vain with or without the four letter
expletive! Good job, Lucas!", and they thought using the force for levitation and psychokinesis was "offensive to god". So go there, and laugh at them, because they deserve it. The poor guy couldn't even handle more than 20-something minutes of South Park. -
Jul 12, 1999 3:28:59 AM CDT
Leprechaun was good but does it really deserve to have a franchi
by paragonian
Pumpkinhead's another low budget horror film that was good but doesn't deserve any sequels.
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As a Christian I must say that I haven't had such a good laugh for a very long time, as when I saw the website Capalert! Is this a joke?!!!
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Well, if they really wanted Darth Maul to come back in part 2 all they would need to do is say he pulled a jedi mind trick on ole obi wan. Hell he coulda been sitting in a corner laughing his ass off.
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I just went to the capalert site. It is a riot. I had a feeling it might be the case, but apparently I am indeed bound for hell! Not being able to resist, I wrote this e-mail to them with tongue firmly in cheek. I wonder if they'll take me seriously!...............
To Whom It May Concern:
In your Phantom Menace review, you list Darth Maul's slaying as being non-graphic and having "no
blood/guts." However, just as Obi-Wan Kenobi makes the deathblow, there is indeed a briefly perceptible spray of blood that spurts from the wound. Don't worry; I didn't catch it on my first viewing either. Nonetheless, I felt your readers should be made aware of this affront to our sensibilities.
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Ray Parks name was in the Sleepy Hollow creadits a long time ago, just looking it up imdb showed that bit. Problem is they were lising him in the cast list, and not as a stunt man. Of course he's got a marketable name now. I personally could care less who the stunt people are in a film... I would watch Sleepy Hollow just becouse it is a Tim Burton film, not to mention staring Johny Depp who is one of the most undervauled actors in Hollywood. I don't like them changing Icabod into a police man rather then being a teacher, but it should be great. Did everyone notice the Ian McDiarmid (the Senator/Empror from Star Wars) is in Sleepy Hollow as well? X-Men I was going to watch becouse its made by the team that made Usual Susspects...
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Hee hee! That is a funny site! I like the fact that in rating the "Wanton Violence" of TPM, they felt the need to put ("") around "sword" fighting.
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Toad, Pyro, Blob, and Beast all got the axe due to budget restraints (too much FX $ and screen time on them). So my gut tells me Ray Park will be Wolverine's stunt double. Think about it: can fight like hell, good with weaponry, small and fast. And when the fans find out Darth Maul and Logan are one and the same then they'll be happier than pigs in you know what. That's my take.
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This site has GOT to be a joke - the review on Tarzan complains that he shows 'too much posterior flesh!', and then goes off on an attack on kid's swimming costumes...
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OK, CapAlert is run by a bunch of tight-assed prudes. However, this is America and we all have the right to be perverts or prudes. Cap Alert is obviously meant to be used as a tool for parents who want to pre-screen movies before letting their kids see them. My parents did the same thing when I was a kid via the movie reviews in the Catholic weekly. As a result, I've never seen Despertly Seeking Susan. From what I understand, it was not that big of a loss. As long as they don't seek government-sponsored censorship, I don't see the problem. And just to rile all of you extremists, I do believe that consumer-based censorship (bad word-of-mouth, product boycotts)is good and necessary for a civil society.
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The next SW movie deals with the Clone Wars, therefore we have an obvious but chessy way of getting Darth Maul back on the screen. It may not be very original, but at least we can preserve the best part of Episode One.
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Oh yeah! I have spent some time on this site. I first saw it about a week or two ago when the South Park reviews began to appear. Yahoo had a link to it. I tell you, I nearly pissed myself I was laughing so hard. I brought several of my coworkers over to see it, and I tell you - that was the most fun I've had at work in a while! I sent out a mass email a few days later telling everytone to read their South Park review. My favorite euphamism is "the most foul of the foul words" (I guess for "fuck"?). Oh geez! Even in thier review of star wars (speacial report) they went off on violence. The reviewer (I use the term loosely) ranted about how movies "use steely cold violence exploding in orgasmic satisfaction." Oh crap, I was crying when I read that! (BTW, I found it pretty disturbing to find out that the concepts "steely cold" and "orgasmic" were paired in the reviewer's mind - Too Much Information!) What psychological damage must these people be doing to themselves to watch all these movies that they hate and think are the work of the devil. That's gotta fuck with your mind! (Reminds me of the christian right-wingers who try to "expose" how the "gay lifestyle" is all about casual sex, leather, and fetish clubs (as if there aren't any of that in the hetero world!) and will go undercover to these clubs and film it. Constantly. Obsessively. Compulsively. Makes me think we should sit all these christian fanatics down and let them tell us about their mothers.) In any case, I thought it was hilarious that like only one movie out of dozens was given a green light (Doug's 1st movie). Even Tarzan was given a yellow light! Everything else, red light, red light, red light, ad nasuem. Funny! -CG
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I'm sure at least some of you out there are familiar with the SCA, the Society for Creative Anachronism. For those of you who aren't, they are a medeival recreation group; that is, they attempt to recreate those aspects of medeival culture, arts, etc. that interest them, including swordfighting. These people generally watch certain types of movies very closely; historical movies for accuracy (or lack thereof), and swordfighting movies for technique. The fighters in particular tend to watch cinamatic sword fights in terms of what the fighters are doing right, what they're doing wrong, and what they could have done better. At any rate, I was talking to some SCA fighter friends about TPM, and they paid it one of the highest compliments I've ever heard SCA folk give a movie swordfight: None of them watched the battle with Darth Maul and thought, "Heh. I could take this guy."
At any rate, I definitely hope to see more of Ray Park, whether as Darth Mauul (Spelling intentional; what, you haven't read "Heir to the Empire" yet?) or not. -
... how would one go about emailing trey and matt about their review on Capalert? I think they would love it (might even use it in the VHS packaging!!!!!). I know if I made SP, I couldn't think of a bigger compliment. -CG
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TVGuy, I do agree with you that CAPAlert is easily within the bounds of free speech. I am not suggesting that the site should be shut down, regardless of how ludicrous I think it is. However, I do think that I am within my rights expressing how laughable I find CAPAlert and its message to be. They have the right to their opinion, and I have the right to mine. Certainly I do not endorse kids' watching anything that the movie industry produces without any safeguards or moral responsibility on the part of parents. My major criticism is that CAPAlert's problems with movies give no attention whatsoever to context. It picks out single elements that it deems "wrong" with no thought to how those elements relate to the movie as a whole or its lessons. If their religious beliefs dictate that a certain image or a certain word is bad, then so be it. However, their condemnation of films seems to be totally lacking in open mindedness, and I wager the reviewer(s) would not give many of these movies a recommendation for thoughtful adults either.
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Dimitri, I hope you didn't think I was calling you an extremist. That was for all the posters on AICN who believe that it is wrong for anyone to be offended by anything. I agree that it's fun to laugh at the folks at Cap Alert and they probably laugh at (or pray for) us. SP was the most offensive movie I've ever seen and one of the funniest. However, I noticed that there is at least one line that even SP won't cross. After about ten minutes, I wanted to see how far they would go. But they didn't do it. They didn't use the c-word. You all know the c-word, but I won't type it out for fear of being banned. I can type fuck, bitch, whore, shit, cock and pussy, but I guess some things are still beyond the pale.
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More than anything, this probably speaks to the level of my desensitization. (At the age of 24 and after all of the movies I've seen, said desensitization really isn't that surprising.) Anyway, the thing that most struck me about South Park was that it wasn't vulgar enough for me! The movie was outrageous. It made me laugh on quite a few occasions. Honestly, though, I was expecting more. I wasn't looking for the word that you were looking for, but there were other things that seemed to be missing. (Most notably, I was expecting the Mole's atheist rants to go a little bit further.) Perhaps there were too many "friendly" musical numbers for my taste. I've seen parodies of musicals; it's been done. I truly wondered what all the fuss was about. The fact that I am one of the "upstanding" products of this society makes me fear for our future. Or perhaps as an intelligent adult the fact that I was able to recognize the moral of the story masked its outrageousness. Perhaps all the uproar is more a concern of keeping this away from children who will not be able to place it in the correct context.
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as for Ray Park being in X-Men well that would be super cool. I dont think they would bring him back for Episode II but who knows.... I really have to wonder why they even bother making he Leprichaun movies anymore...before seeing SW:TPM I was convinced that Warwick Davis just stayed in that leprichaun makeup 100% of the time and that he would be all set to go when the next film starts. I watched Leprichaun 3 and 4 back to back for the first time recently, a friend and I needed some brainless rental entertainment ...part 3 was bearable, park 4 was just plain outright stupid. I only have to wonder now that part 4 was set in space hundreds of years after parts 1,2 and 3... will part 5 be considered a prequel to part 4? only time will tell... Hopefully the geniouses will call it "Leprichaun 5: HELL in the Hood" and it wont make it past the MPAA. --Mck
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if anyone needs a good laugh, check out the review of the spy who shagged me. it's as funny as the movie itself. makes me want to go see it again. my guess is that whoever reviewed it secretly thought that those scenes were hilarious and wanted to share it with everyone. it also makes me wonder what they find humorous.
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Seeing Ray Park do his thing in TPM gave me the exact sensation that I got watching Chow in "Hard Boiled" for the first time. Both times just blew my mind and totally shattered my expectations of what a lightsaber duel and gunfights should be. Hopefully, they won't be censored to he- I mean heck. (You can still use heck right?)
Anyways, It'll be awesome to see Ray in action again! Now I can start getting psyched for X-men and Sleepy Hollow!
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After seeing Ray Park wearing that red and black facepaint in The Phantom Menace, I can't help but to picture him playing Deadpool (who would be a rather inexpensive character to film) in the upcoming film. I know that the character hasn't been mentioned by anyone who's seen the script, and that Park could probably play any number of X-characters. I just wonder if Singer is considering adding Park in a yet unannounced role, and thinking of putting him up against Wolverine.
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I also heard about CAP alert when the first Southpark reviews started coming out. I thought the Southpark one was so funny I printed it out to show to some of my friends. Anyway Tre and Matt were on Conan O'Brien last week and one of them happened to have a piece of paper with a "review" on it. They read the first few sentences and it was clear they were reading the CAPalert one. They mentioned the "Straight from the smoking pits of hell" He also made a joke about how they had to count every use of the word fuck, and they mention some things that aren't really in the movie
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Growing up Catholic, my mother used to read The Catholic Transcript, to see what they had to say about a new movie I wanted to see. The Transcript rated movies on a five-scale basis: A-I meant it was suitable for everyone. A-II meant it was suitable for kids with their parent/guardian present. A-III meant it was for adults. A-IV meant adults with reservations. O was morally offensive. Now, for the most part, The Catholic Transcript hated everything, just like that Capalert thingy on the Net. Most of the movies didn't deserve the ratings the C.T. gave them, but it made you feel guilty as hell if you watched one with an "offensive" rating. This Capalert site is amusing, kudos to the poster who directed me there. Although I passionately believe in Freedom of Speech, most of the reviews posted at Capalert seem unfair and unworthy of the way they're treated, especially since the reviewer claimed that he didn't stay for the whole movie. O-kay. Another thing that I found amusing was the unintentionally hilarious way the reviewer wrote about these "satanic" films. Reviewing AUSTIN POWERS, the reviewer writes something like "he spreads his legs apart...the stretch of the tendons in his crotch were visible..." Yeah, I'm sure many moviegoers noticed that. The reviewer also says that Dr. Evil sensually sucks his little finger throughout the movie. SUMMER OF SAM is called a triple-X rated sex-murder movie toned down to get an R rating, and SOUTH PARK is labeled as "Another movie straight from the smoking pits of hell." Now I know the point of the site is to protect parents from taking their children to see these movies. That's fine. Under 17 shouldn't be allowed to see R rated movies, anyway. But the way this site rates (and reviews) movies, you'd think you committed murder by seeing one of them...
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I wasn't in on all this earlier debate about CAPAlert and context to which you refer. You make a good point that it is not a review service. Rather, it simply quantifies instances of certain elements. As far as that goes, I actually think it's a useful tool for parents - Christian or otherwise. However, I would argue that the writing style employed on CAPAlert in effect turns the contents into movie reviews. It could serve simply as an inventory of aforementioned elements and make a recommendation on whether or not a parent should allow their children to watch the movie, but it goes beyond that. The reviewer's obvious personal disgust seems to go further than his concern for what our children are watching. He has no appreciation for fantasy, which was probably my most valuable solace as a child. Also, I'll admit I'm somewhat biased, but the way that he condemns every film simply because it doesn't conform to his Christian ideals turns my stomach.
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While we're on the subject of what's suitable for whom, I just had to interject with this: I hate Warner Brothers and I hate my Big Brother the MPAA. I just finished reading Wells' column at Mr. Showbiz and Ebert's column on suntimes.com. If Warner Brothers had any respect for Kubrick, they would forget about their profit margin and take Eyes Wide Shut as Kubrick filmed it. As for the MPAA, it's time for them to create a more intelligent rating system. This incident is - for all practical purposes - censorship. Do I have to fly to Europe to see a movie? Do I have to move to Canada to have a rating system which at least provides for these special situations? (Unfortunately, Canada, it's looks like you're getting screwed regardless.) I know that the scene in question and perhaps the whole film are going to be ruined for me, because I will be so conscious of this ridiculous digital butchering. I really wanted to see a Kubrick movie on the big screen, as it is something I have never done, but I refuse to contribute to *this*. Why isn't Cruise fighting this? He said that he would.
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Please forgive any typos in the tirade above (e.g. "it's"). I am not in a good mood.
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I love the fact that I am going straight to hell....because I laughed my ass off in South Park....want to be spanked by the Generals Daughter.....love saying fuck, shit, goddamn.....and wanna bend Reese Witherspoon over my bed.
I can't wait to hear what these pathetic loonballs are gonna say about "American Psycho". If you haven't read the book do it, it is great.
I will end with a quote:
Spirituality is believing there is a force guiding us through our existence......religion is believing you have to pay to find it.
Love ya all....
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I'm neither spiritual nor religious, but could you tell me the source?
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Simonjester is right, I haven't heard any SCA fighters dissin' Ray Park's fighting style. People who really do this kind of fighting know the good stuff when they see it. Obi-Wan, on the other hand, was terrible and Qui-Gon wasn't much better. A couple of times you can actually see Ray Park wait, missing obvious openings, to allow the other actors to twirl around or whatever. It was also very odd to see the big roundhouse swings the Jedi used - that kind of thing is not generally allowed in SCA fighting - and probably wouldn't be very useful with a laser-bladed weapon. Liam Neeson was particularly guilty of this. It's a light-saber, guys, not a baseball bat. I admit, stage fighting is always different from "real" fighting, but Ray Park was so good, he really made the other guys look bad.
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Sorry, kids. Had it really occurred to me that anybody cared, I would have paid much more attention. Over the past two weeks, I've had several conversations with people who *should* know, who have brought up Ray's alleged connection with the projcect, but because it was not really the information about the project that was "right on target" to what I was trying to get, I: 1) did not poke around it to try to find holes; 2) do not remember and did not ask questions about what his connection was. If I remember, I should be talking to one source on Wednesay, I will see if he knows anything interestin. www.get.to/sterlingwolfe/
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If Obi-Wans Lightsaber cauterized the wound Darth Maul could return with cybernetic legs, much like Darth Vader is believed to posses. This would also allow them the scene of Anikin Skywalker killing him in combat and taking his place at Palpatines side; much like Palpatines offer to Luke in the original trilogy. As for his involvement in X-Men, his size could work as a stunt double for Wolverine, but I would prefer to see him in his own role. As Maul he kicked ass!!
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So I sent an email (ALL LIES) to CAP, and I cannot wait until I get it back.
For Entertainment purposes, here's what I wrote.
*Vulgar language! HAHA!*
Hey, I masturbate daily, swear all of the time, smoke, go to dirty sites,
and offend everyone I can. And I'm 12. This is'nt even my name, I hacked
into a nice persons email and are bugging everyone in their address book.
Fuck You,
Tom Delvin.
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man....at least it has to have some humor in it
*wonders if the leprechaun can flash "west side" with his stubby lil fingers
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cap alert..has to be the BEST site for a laugh...damn....i might not even come back here harry...there is just something very DISTURBING about CAPALERT that has me...drawn into it.......ahhhhhhhhh,.........then they wonder why kids kill kids..after viewing THAT site..i would want to go on a killing spree and blame the parents too--(not music , movies, tv, or cartoons, etc etc)
i am christian ...and i am highly embarrassed by THAT site.....truely...i do...feel sorry for their kids...being so....i dunno.kept from the world.....NOW.that is very unhealthy.compared to actually VIEWING one of these so called "hell flicks"..wtf....these kids are going to grow up not knowing...the fundamentals of life...just the religious mumbo jumbo that has been fed to them on a spoon..till the parents wake up and understand that they are CREATING children that are too...artificial...sheltered...etc...and see that they need TO RAISE them....from right and wron...good and bad.BUT......DAMMIT......do it in such a way that your child will be able to BE LOOKED AT AS A HUMAN AND NOT A RELIGIOUS OUTCAST......................TILL AMERICA wakes up....and SMELLS the TRUE HATRED AND CRIME.....that will be here NO MATTER how SHELTERED OUR children our.......sign me out............>>>WINKIE<<<...........ps....these people are just creating your future DAVID KORESH's (sic?).....just another future cult of america.....that IS my 2 cents -
Just in case anyone's interested, I heard last week on a movie/entertainment show here in Japan that Japan will be the only country to get the unaltered Eyes Wide Shut. This in a country where a few years ago the police would have been raiding your theater for showing a few seconds of pubic hair! The show said that there is such wide interest in Japan for Kubrick that the distributers feel that they could risk making less at the boxoffice so that true Kubrick fans will see the un-digitally "corrected" version. So is Japan the only country with "true" Kubrick fans?
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this guy deserves his own role in the X-men. The Toad would be too expensive? Jessusdamit, remove the candle from your ass, smart alec. Slap a costume on this guy, and he
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GAMBIT THERE I'M DONE .
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I know that this is way too late, but there is a man out there who could play wolverine and really pull it off. He is a wrestler in the wcw, whose nickname is actually ... the Wolverine. His name is Chris Benoit. He has the build, the look, the lack of towering height, the voice and he's ... get this ... Canadian!! Too bad I didn't get in on this earlier. Oh, well. We'll have to hope for the best from the 6' Scotsman.
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