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DAMMIT!!!! Bettie Page Died on my Birthday!!!
Hey folks, Harry here... I'm drunk. I've spent a great day with friends from around the world - drinking heavily and sort of forgetting about all the troubles of the world and the pressures of a tenth BUTT-NUMB-A-THON and I come home - head for the bathroom and my wife says, "AWWW FUCK!" - I say, "What sweetie?" -- -- "BETTIE PAGE DIED"
Wow. On my birthday, this day that I celebrated so awesomely with so many, one of my icons has fallen. I've known BETTIE PAGE as an icon of cult beauty for as long as I can remember. My parents and their friends often spoke of her... and then when OLIVIA and DAVE STEVENS (god rest his soul) put her into the mainstream of cult iconography... Then Joe Johnston and the impossibly lovely Jennifer brought her imagery to life in THE ROCKETEER - and then BETTIE PAGE herself was found to be alive. For years she was rumored to have died, but in reality - she was just living in anonymity, not rich, not getting rich off of her imagery, but then... then she was reborn into a mainstream of cult beauty.
There's no mainstream movies with BETTIE PAGE. But I do have posters of her, most notably TEASERAMA which came out in her heyday - Then in the mid to late nineties the Rock Poster industry played with the iconography of Bettie Page. I remember talking at length about her with Frank Kozik when he lived here in town about the perfection of her look... the glee and innocence to her debauchery. The sweetness of her sadomasochism.
BETTIE PAGE will never die as an icon. Her image has been burnt into the consciousness of the mainstream... be it the hosiery or the leopard print one piece. Be her bound of her spanking, Bettie Page is an image burnt into our minds and carried forever. She left her mark, be it a hand print on the ass of an anonymous tartlet, or simply a smile on our faces.
Bettie Page, wherever you are... I love you and always will...
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First I ever got.
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Geez, I was wondering how long it was going to take for something to show up on AICN. I almost lost the faith. Is no one paying attention?
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I guess that means she died the day before my birthday.
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First Dave Stevens, now Bettie Page. Sadness :(
Ring some bells this holiday season ye merry gentlemen; this is one angel that will look great in wings. -
at least, not in the classic sense...but she was totally comfortable with her body and unlike the other nude models or strippers at the time, looked like the girl next door...which is what she was...add to that her smile...her neverending smile...and a star was born...there is an amazing pic of her at the playboy mansion at 80...not sure why she didnt want pics taken of her...she was still stunning....
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Bettie possesed the ability to be saucy enough to fulfill the fantasies of most men (and lots of teenage boys) and want women to be like her. She also could be the sweet girl next door that you could take home to mom. Bettie Page has been often imitated, but never duplicated and will always be missed by her fans. God's speed Bettie!
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but you come off as a goddamn insensitive fuckhead to whine about your birthday when a great human being just died. I hope when you sober up in the morning that you change that insulting joke of a "tribute" to something a lot more respectful of the great Miss Page.
May she rst in peace. -
...and those NEVER got old. Better than the JCPenney catalog...and THAT is sayin' something.
Innocence and "perversion" in the same room. I'll truly miss you... -
Dec 12, 2008 2:07:18 AM CST
lalalandlovechild...think they wanted to leave this for harry
by bacci40
and as you see...he was out partying...bet he gets wifey to put on a page wig tomorrow nite
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Dec 12, 2008 2:07:51 AM CST
At least you can think of her on your birthday from now on...
by crab_cakes
make lemonade...Thanks for everything Bettie!!
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Dec 12, 2008 2:07:57 AM CST
I have nothing but sympathy for her and her loved-ones...
by coursinlarry
...but, I don't know. She doesn't do much for me. But I respect the fact that she makes other guys go bananas.
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The girl next door thing and being comfortable in ones own skin was really what made her sexy...also that she has a naughty streak in her with her fetish dress. Today, the sex goddesses are all plastic surgery mistakes slowly melting before our eyes, RIP Bettie.
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Dec 12, 2008 2:09:31 AM CST
This is not a post that matters if your "first" if you have noth
by nohomo
An icon has passed. Her cult beauty helped define my teenage image, along with Marilyn Monroe and James Dean. People need to know how much she was an influence to pop culture and the sexual revolution.
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I guess it's a way of expressing how this is personal to you, but it comes off as self-centered by saying, essentially, "why did she have to die on my birthday?" Her death would have been a sad thing, no matter which day it happened. Rest in peace, Bettie.
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This is how her death hit me. Celebrating my birthday, I come home at around 1:36am - and find out one of my favorite beings has passed away.
BETTIE was one of the sweet souls in this world. She was religious, yet open with her body. She was exploited gleefully - and later made that an industry. I'm sorry if writing from my perspective and very REAL and HONEST approach offends you, but it is how I react to news like this... as a human being. Not like the AP which has a pre-written article sitting in a file waiting for the death specifics to plug in and publish. I write from my heart - and this news UPSET me because we've had a piss poor year of losing icon after icon. But if your reaction is to get angry at me, feel free. We each deal in our own way. Me - I'm just sad that Bettie is gone. -
TOR JOHNSON.
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based on my infatuation for Bettie Page
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For taking the piss with hoping she would have a speedy recovery ffs. Betties revenge against you oh how you have fucked up my fav tubby internet geek
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the movie caught that aspect of her life...the reason the amateur photogs always wanted her, was because she seemed approachable...unlike the other models...shoot...even in the fetish stuff, she still seems pure and innocent...and you are right, today's models, pinups, pornstars are all fake and slutty...with the death of bettie, another piece of the innocence of a bygone age also goes
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Portland, OR. But, she's WAY reclusive. Doesn't do anything but stay in her house.
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Proud of yourself? Being a "First" fanook? Even in a talkback about a fallen icon, you're more worried about a childish "first" post? Unreal.
RIP Ms. Page. -
I've got two candles burning next to my autographed photo of the late great Ms. Page. Dammit... just, dammit all.
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Happy Birthday, Harry.
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Heaven has a most beautiful angel this evening. There is not one model or movie star today who could even come close to being as beautiful as Bettie Page. She was a true original, and without her, this world has lost it's brightest and most beautiful star. Rest in peace Bettie, and thank you for sharing your unique beauty with us all. You will live forever in our hearts.
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btw have you seen gretchen mol. never knew much about her and i have to say damn. she is fine. just damn.
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A true icon, and beautiful person has passed. May the road rise up to greet her, the wind be at her back, and may god hold her and keep her in the palm of his hand. The ferry man will have a lot to talk about this evening.
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Her and I share the same birthday. I'm not one of the posers and say "I didn't know she was alive" I did and actually have a signed art piece that Olivia had made. I saw this coming when I had heard about her slipping into a coma. Farewell beautiful. I will remember you till the day I die. Goodbye.
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toooooooo yyyyyoooooouuuuu.
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the headline about your birthday is the mildly offensive part...mentioning it in the article is not quite as bad. Anyway, I don't know much about Bettie Page except that she was very pretty and looked great naked. She certainly made a lot of people happy through being such a lovely photographic subject. I'll take your word for it that she was a sweet person too...sad that we can't live forever but at least she had a long (and hopefully good) life.
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funny, I don't think he's ever mentioned her before.
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Hope this doesn't bum you folks out at Buttnumbathon too much.
And ye gods! Could Harry be the reincarnation of Tor Johnson. They're both about the same size, at least... -
Hope this doesn't bum you folks out at Buttnumbathon too much.
And ye gods! Could Harry be the reincarnation of Tor Johnson? They're both about the same size, at least... -
(Very safe for work, don't worry): http://tinyurl.com/3danjw
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Bit of a poor show Harry. Smacks of Mudkip loving 16 yr old girl attention whore.
Happy birthday Harry, only next time try not to announce it in such a trite and tacky manner. -
Dec 12, 2008 4:49:14 AM CST
Man wouldn't it be great to be famous
by guy who got a headache and accidentally
Then die and have Harry talk about how much it sucks and by the way it's my birthdays guys, you don't have to get me nothing but you know, if you want, it is my birthday after all. Not exactly the next Hunter S. Thompson.
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Rest in peace, Bettie. Thank you for all you've done.
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I read that she passed away earlier this morning here on the East Coast and was saddened to hear/read the news.
She suffered a heart attack and went into a coma and never recovered.
To say that she was an "Icon" to many is an understatement.
I remember growing up and seeing some of her 50-ies pics pinned up on the wall of my Uncles workbench area of the garage where he would work on cars and motorcycles...and as a youngster even then thinking how pretty cool she was (ok! ok!! ok!!! I thought she was hot! Ha!).
She had SUCH an impression on a lot of people (especially the women I knew) who were into the whole retro-50-ies look as well as the BDSM crowd too.
I hope that she rests in peace and that whereever she is...she knows and is happy with the fact that she was adored, respected and made a HUGE impression on millions of guys and girls growing up.
Thank you Betty and Rest In Peace...there will NEVER be anothor like you in this World of ours! -
Which sucks WAY WORSE!
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The fact that we still have 3 weeks left to go in 2008 makes me very wary about any other iconic celebrities who may kick the bucket before Dec. 31.
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Jennifer Hudson, Mark Ruffalo, Macauley Culkin... lock up your brothers & sisters, Hollywood!
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True, but she had an attractivness that's hard to define.Plus lets not forget that ,most of her photos , were taken by amatuers, under shitty lighting conditions {or harsh daylight } and are unretouched , and she still looked great.I've never seen a bad pic of her.Her pics seem natural.I for one detest the ,overlit ,photoshopped to death , pics that make every actress/model look like the same flawless and fake .
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fuck off
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Happy birthday Harry.
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Not to be a pedant, but Connelly's Jenny in The Rocketeer didn't emulate Bettie Page (if we're going by the hairstyle). The original comic did, of course.
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Dinky was a cute cat. She was no Bettie Page, but I'll miss them both.
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But, seriously, while I can understand Harry's initial reaction as one of sad irony I think that, with time, he's going to be a little embarrassed with this obit. It does come off as a little self-oriented and demonstrates why its sometimes better to not "toss off" a reaction to something in print or on the web.
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I know I am lazy for saying this, but why doesn't AICN ever post a picture of the person they post about. YES, I can go to Yahoo! or some other search site and find Betty Page. But is there some reason behind the lack of photos in stories? Most of the time I will not know what the person named looks like until I search. Does this bug anyone else? Oh... sorry for the loss of someone people have enjoyed.
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How about saying you love your wife for a change....!
I KEED, I KEED! -
My wife and I are actually going out to celebrate her life tonight, as she was one of the shared interests that brought us together.
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Dec 12, 2008 7:39:32 AM CST
RIP, but hey, there's a new District 13 part 2 trailer up !
by marsellus
Bettie will be missed indeed.
And although it's definetely not the good topic to point it out, but hey, there's a new "Banlieu 13 : Ultimatum" (the District 13 sequel) trailer up, over here (in French) :
http://www.dvdrama.com/news-30765--b13-ultimatum-kiffe-le-trailer-cousin-.php
Enjoy. And RIP again, Bettie. -
HAPPY BIRTHDAY YOU BIG APE!!!
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Sheesh. Dude.
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Although I'm only 29, I was a really big fan. May heaven have a nice spot for her.
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...always heard she was the nicest lady you'd ever want to meet. Rest In Peace, Bettie.
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...the very idea of Harry being drunk is truly frightening!
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doesn't matter if it was the first thing that crossed your mind, the fact that his beloved woman died is the story, not the fact that it happened on your goddamned birthday.
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sober up before you write a goddamn obit
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Come on, AICN - where's his obit? He was in CHRISTINE, BROADCAST NEWS, FAR & AWAY, HILL STREET BLUES, GREMLINS 2. He was a great charactor actor. I think he deserves it.
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Who gives shit that it is your birthday!
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No class.
Rest in peace, Bettie.
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It's tough to write a good eulogy; Beaks' for David Foster Wallace earlier this year I remember being pretty perfect. You don't want a bloodless AP story that contains no emotional reaction to the death, true-- but then again you don't want to relate the person's death entirely to *you* and how it makes *you* feel. The fine line that Beaks, and for that matter Peter Jackson also walked it pretty perfectly earlier in the week for Forrest Ackerman, are good examples: if you knew them, you want to find anecdotal stories involving you and the deceased that aren't self-aggrandizing, but instead illuminate the life and character of the deceased. If you were a fan, you want to describe your love or appreciation for the deceased's work in a way that is relatable, not just personal.Where "whining about how the deceased ruined your birthday by dying on it" fits in I'm not sure; I guess I would recommend avoiding doing that entirely.
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He had talent as a character actor. Bettie only had two things going for her.
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Maybe Betty's family can help you through the grief of having your birthday ruined. Defend yourself all you want, but you should know by now that a headline always sets a tone, and your headline for most of us was just came off as yet another selfish childish, inapropriate reaction. Seriously I saw that headline and had this image of you with cake all over your face and a half unwrapped present in your hands mumbling "well fuck, so much for this day being about me. She couldn't wait a day?" We get it, you're sensitive, but most of the time you come off as an over grown child on an neverending quest to get attention and affection. So, yeah people are going to react they way they did to your headline. I really can't wait for Moriarty's new website to open, so I don't have to keep coming here and wading through your jibberish looking for decent reports from him and a couple other of your writers that I respect. You want our respect? Grow up, your behaviour with this story may seem minor and you probably will be clueless as to why it annoys so many of us, but for us it's just another reason amongst many why you have become such a joke to alot of us.
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by watching Gretchen Mol prance around naked in "The Notorious Bettie page."
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You gave a perfectly human reaction, I took no offense at it. We all react to bad news personally like that, its just some people think because you're a public figure you should act more robotic I guess. Whether I agree with your opinions or not, I always feel I get exactly how you feel, rather then your interpretation on how you SHOULD feel. What's more honest and heart felt then that? And besides, if ANYONE in talkback used your headline, no one would care. So ignore the double standards.
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She was, hands down, the best pinup model ever. A true beauty!
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I hope you revise this obit once you sober up. You solipsistic tit.
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That I was a little surprised to learn that she had still been alive.
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What a repulsive way to pay your respects.
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While people like Paul Volker live on?
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Does that mean you come up out of the basement?
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Page was a born again Christian.
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A true, natural beauty and an inspiration to those who appreciate a more creative, playful, and seductive style. And if there is an afterlife, it just got a little kinkier...RIP Bettie.
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Thanks, Mosquito March and Grammation - Everybody on this site seems to have missed that Robert Prosky died yesterday too. Actor Robert Prosky has died at a hospital near his home in Washington DC. He was 77.
Prosky enjoyed a long stage career, and starred in more than 200 Broadway productions and over 100 plays at the Arena Theatre in Washington, a venue close to his heart.
But he will be best remembered by most for his film and TV roles, with appearances in movies Dead Man Walking, Mrs Doubtfire, Hoffa and Far and Away and shows Cheers and Hill Street Blues.
Prosky's eldest son Stefan reveals the star died on Monday night (8Dec08) after undergoing a heart procedure.
He says, "He went gracefully last night, not in pain. Everybody knows him as a fairly famous actor. My brothers and I know him as a marvellous father."
Prosky is survived by his wife, Ida, and three sons, Stefan, John and Andrew. -
Mark Orcus' words
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Betty Page passes away and what does your asinine navel-gazing idiot-savant self write in the headline of your "tribute" article?
"ITS MAH BIRFDAY!"
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That greedy heartless turd made so much money off Bettie and didn't give her one thin dime - Bettie once asked her for one of her favorite pictures of herself snd Yeager's reply was Bettie pays like veryone else. Oh well, I'm glad she is finally at peace and in the arms of Jesus.
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No you're not, dummy. You're sad that its overshadowing what you had hoped would be a "hey AICNers its mah birfday weeee!"
I really really hope you die on MY birthday, Harry. Can't wait to post a whole bunch in that talkback all about how you ruined my special day with your death. -
It's nice that the movie about her was made before she passed. I hope she made a little money off of it. (she got zero for all the constant reprinting of her photos) she lived a very simple and reclusive life, privately going out on occational "dates" with the late Dave Stevens (I still can't believe he's gone too)She had a natural beauty that the camera doesn't always record, but in this instance, the camera loved her face. She didn't have that slutty or hard living look that strippers and models of that era had, she always seemed to be expressing an infectous joy of life.Thanks for Sharing, Bettie, we'll all miss you.
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For the haters at Harry 'making it about him' - this IS Harry's site and everything he posts on here relates to his feelings on whatever he posts about. It seems Harry can't post anything on his site without getting slammed by SOMEONE. Personally I'd be pretty bummed if someone I had an interest or fascination with died on my birthday - wouldn't you? On a side note, I'm suprised no-ne pointed out the irony of brattyben's post - "She lives in my town".
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This is worse.
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I was truly sadden by her passing. She will be missed but will be an eternal beauty who left her mark upon the hearts and minds generations past present and future.
thanks harry for taking the time to share with us your thoughts and feelings..happy belated bday too. -
While I don't mean to be gauche, I do hope you have a fantastic Birthday, Harry. If Bettie Page was a master of any craft, it was the simple craft of celebration! What better way to remember her?
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You got Type 2 D man, what the hell are you doing drinking! You want to wind up on a dialysis machine 20 years down the road with the possibilities of having your legs and fingers chopped off due to poor circulation with a pump placed around your heart with a push button on it to remove the excess fluid build up??? Harry I hope the drinky stuff is once in a blue moon. My grandfather suffered everything that killed him from drinking while having diabetes. I've never seen a man go through so much hell and pain. It was pure hell man. OK, no more mother/brother "Listen to me now and believe me later" bullshit. Happy B day. Bettie may be gone but you and your family and friends are still here, healthy, and alive. Rejoice!
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is just way overblown. And much more insensitive by the people trying to feel morally superior then any unintended disrespect Harry may have given. Honestly I probably shouldn't even be posting this, we should all just focus on paying our respects to Bettie Page.
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Are there any pics of here more recent than, you know, the 40's?
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operation "its all about me" wins another tactical victory. If you think this was an accident, welcome to AICN
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..the fact that everything Harry says sounds like it came out of the mouth of a gay 9 year old. Bettie Page was a stripper, nothing more. The whole "Girl Next Door" bit was to keep everyone involved with her out of jail. She was never any kind of cultural icon when she was working. Hipster dip-shits turned her into that. None of us ever knew her and what we know of her isn't real, it's a projected image. Stop acting like someone just farted at your mother's funeral, geez.
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http://tinyurl.com/5fo8q9 She was a living legend.
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Rest in peace, Bettie Page.
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At least now, you won't forget it.
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yes, I know I'm talking about her 'image,' her status as icon, and not the real person who had many problems and led a very troubled life. But I think her image itself has taken on a life of its own in the American collective consciousness, 2nd only to Marilyn Monroe. By coincidence, I have a representation of her on a Tarot-type playing card someone gave me that I wedged between the ropes on my African drum. For me, she embodies the figure of the divine feminine. She will forever live on as a representation of Goddess. Kore! RIP Betty.
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Really though, that sucks. Happy Birthday regardless!
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Dec 12, 2008 1:53:20 PM CST
I'm going to stain my mattress in tribute.......................
by crackerfarmboy
Think of how many dudes have stroked it to Bettie. What could possibly be a more fitting tribute?
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Oh man, that is SOOOO tragic for you. How are you ever going to be able to cope?
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stop mentioning your wife in every post. get a hold of your cock, man.
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"I curse the day you were born!"
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Harry had a birthday.
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Bettie was going to be Abe Vigoda's queen!! All hail the great Abe Vigoda!!
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But who own's Bettie Page's image? Her photos have generated millions (I'm guessing) and she's been on t-shirts, book covers, etc. Did she ever see any money from that? Will her loved ones receive any royalties?That aside, I'm saddened to hear of her death. Such a beauty and it sounds, by all accounts, that she was a great human being as well.Rest in peace Ms. Page
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Love Bettie, was sad to hear she lost this battle. So of course, what better way to mourn her death and celebrate her life than with tired Abe Vigoda jokes? Why don't we throw in a few Chuck Norris Facts from 2004? "Hey guys, Bettie Page died! MORE COWBELL!"
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That Harry is devastated that Bettie Page ruined his birthday by going and dying. No one gives a rat's ass about your birthday, lunkhead. Show a little decency and respect the fact that people die when they die, not on your schedule, or not as so to avoid ruining "your day." This is pretty low, Harry. You should be ashamed of yourself.
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That Harry is devastated that Bettie Page ruined his birthday by going and dying. No one gives a rat's ass about your birthday, lunkhead. Show a little decency and respect the fact that people die when they die, not on your schedule, or not as so to avoid ruining "your day." This is pretty low, Harry. You should be ashamed of yourself.
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We've lost so many this year...Paul Newman, Heath Ledger, Paul Benedict, and now Bettie Page...Hey guys, isn't Abe Vigoda funny?!?! I LOVE LAMP.
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out of context. If George Lucas or Steven Spielburg or Arnold Schwarzenegger died on my birthday it would ruin it outright for that year. Does it make sense to ya now. I wasn't a big Bettie fan and I sorta hate the suicide girls run off as role romodels. So it isn't a big deal to me, but Harry sounds like a true dyed in the wool fan who is, well.. upset.
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... many of your readers are grieving with you. Fuck the asswipes.
Rest in peace Ms. Page. -
I always thought it would be cool to hang out with her
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Theres this one annoying dude there who wears his Bettie Page shirt ALL THE FUCKIN' TIME!!!
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Theres this one annoying dude there who wears his Bettie Page shirt ALL THE FUCKIN' TIME!!! I just want to go up to the guy and say "Get a new shirt already, nigga, DAMN!!"
I can understand being a fan but at least change it up a bit. I'm sure there's different Bettie Page shirts out there. -
Misogynistic, homophobic, patently unfunny and today the fucker has to take a cheap shot at a dead woman by posting pictures of another girl, because apparently "Bettie Page wasn’t really that good looking, so this is way better." What a complete and utter waste of life. At least Harry was drunk and genuinely sad.
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Literally. Everyone does a drunk post now and then. Harry expressed himself as his want. Yet you piss on him for doing so. But god forbid he misses a review or a dvd tuesday - it's like he personally fucked your mom or something.
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While I understand the offensivness of the headline, and the self-centeredness of the obit, I can relate to how Harry felt. Robert F. Kennedy was shot on my 10th birthday. All my little 10-year-old mind could fathom was that my presents were being delayed while my parents watched the news. I didn't truly understand the impact of those events until many years later--how different a world this is because of the events of that day.
For the rest of my life, every time I reach a significant birthday, 20, 30, 40, this year 50, stories appear about the anniversary of the assassination. Those stories bring back intensely personal memories for me, as well as some feelings of embarrassment when I recall my childish reaction to such a momentous tragedy.
In the long run, no matter how defensive he is right now, Harry will regret framing Bettie Page's obituary in those terms. While he won't face annual media reminders of the anniversary, as I do, he will probably recall, at least next time, that this beautiful woman has been gone for a year, and his alcohol-fueled writings will make him cringe.
The best thing that could happen is for a new obituary to be written (with some pictures, of course), some of the nicer reactions excerpted from this talkback and posted to the new story, and this entire stream of messages shitcanned. And in that talkback, nobody could post "first." Wouldn't that be a good thing, too?
My wishes and prayers go out to her family and to all who loved Bettie Page. This world just became a little less beautiful when she left it. -
RIP Bettie and Forrest
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you bet he is. the way he writes everything you'd believe he is the single most important kid in the world [yep, IS]. but guess what, this is HIS site and he is the god here and can do whatever he wants. got a problem with that, go make a site of your own and rant away.
Betty... rest in peace.
And those fuckheads talking about someone important dying on their birthday... stop giving whiny excuses about how as a kid it ruined your birthday. mine is 9/11 and so is my nephew's [it was his 5th in 2001]. he took it well enough and handled it way more mature than some of the retards whining here. and before someone jumps down my throat for use of word retard, i work with kids with Down's Syndrome every weekend... so cut the crap.
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