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The Academy Dislodges Its Head From Its Rectum And Deems THE DARK KNIGHT Score Eligible For Oscar Consideration!!
Merrick here...
Like the headline says...
The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences (aka "The Academy") has decided that Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard's THE DARK KNIGHT score is now eligible for Oscar consideration.
Their work on the film had previously been banned 'cause Academy folk felt there were too many cooks in the kitchen (too many names listed on the cue sheets - a music editor, "ambient music designer," etc).
After reviewing information submitted by the affected parties, the committee concluded that two Zimmer and Howard were responsible for the score’s authorship.
...says THIS article in Variety.
This may be a completely naive question, but could someone explain to my what the hell difference it makes whether a score has one composer or ten? I mean, if everyone's getting credit where credit is due, why wouldn't the cumulative end result be what matters the most? If it took two, three, four, or five people to create the work being honored - so what?
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they had to make it twice.
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Dec 09, 2008 1:44:04 PM CST
Academy members are hung up on the auteur theory, even for compo
by orbots commander
They forget that aspects of a film production, particularly a large studio project that costs around $200 Million, is created by teams of creative people. So yeah, multiple musical talent had a hand in crafting TDK score. But so what?
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I hope TDK cleans house Oscar night, I might actually watch the damn show, you know damn well with all the nominations this work of genius is going to receive the whole show is going to be all about the BAT...these two composers especially deserve one...one of my favorite scores of all time.
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That's my favorite part of the score. Whenever Joker is aboot to do something crazy and you just hear that "Buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz" noise. Awesome. (Going to post this in the other story now too, just in case. Lol @ double story post. Hit the server button twice, did we Merrick?)
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they have the same rules for Producers etc...
fuck...would anybody give a shit if this had been about "Bolt" and not the Dark Knight?
the simple fact is that the score DOES NOT deserve a nomination anyway...
christ I hope DK gets shut out on awards night...maybe that will shock people into dragging their heads out of their asses enough to realize that the Dark Knight, while a very good movie, is very over rated.
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Happy Holidays Hanz and James, you are now eligable for what you should already have.
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best score of the year.
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lol, a double post... what's next? a post entitled "First!" on the front page?
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hahaha..see cause the double post..haha i crack myself up at times
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....I wouldn't support a group of 8 people winning an Oscar for BEST DIRECTOR when some dude that made a film on his own is just as good.
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Give this ground breaking film an oscar for best on set catering too! Or see the movie for what it is...A very average crime caper with an average soundtrack!
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The economy's a bitch.
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that's how awesome this news it. Great score, best of the year.
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Dec 09, 2008 2:02:28 PM CST
If screenplays can have multiple writers and be eligible...
by flickchick85
what's the difference? The award is Best Original Score, not Best Composer. The final product is what's being awarded here. Anyway, glad they changed their minds.
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Good news.
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Better yet, who givess turd.
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these pretzels are making me thirsty.
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Holy bad site admin Batman!
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That buzzing noise, kinda like an airplane approaching... was so effectively fucking ominous that it made my balls ascend into my body like landing gear. That may be the only comic book movie that I'd wave off a hand/blowjob from my girlfriend for.
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There's still no main theme or leitmotivs in the entire thing. I remember the soundtrack really driving home the tension in certain scenes, but only because it's tensely-ambient music. I really miss the Wagnerian themes Elfman had developed for Gotham City.
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1..it deserves itand 2..big movies like this that kill at the box office will draw in more veiwers on oscer night..the acedemy will nominate TDK simply because everyone on earth saw the movie 5 times and will want to see it win..seriously will you care more about seeing TDK win or some russian movie and a 3 legged dog winmatch, set, point
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They didn't want to pay to make extra Oscars for multiple composers, perhaps?
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There just doing this to not piss people off. It's great score though.
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This score deserves a nomination. Not necessarily a win though. "Why So Serious" is a very memorable track on the score. However, in my opinion the academy should try to nominate more films that most people have seen (if deserving). For example, most likely MILK will be THE Front Runner for Picture of the Year, yet most people will never see the film. Talk about abandoning your audience.
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You know it, I know it, and the American people know it.Seriously, I'm glad to hear the Academy got wise and saw fit to give this very unique and ambient score a nod.
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It's not that amazing a score, guys. It just happens to be attached to a movie that geeks are going apeshit over, who are hoping for a sweep for their favorite film. I guarantee you that 98% of the viewers who drove this movie to box office heaven don't even remember the music, and won't care if it isn't mentioned on Oscar night. It's not like it's E.T. or TITANIC. Hell - some of the scenes that work the best in the film, like the truck chase, don't have any music at all. All normal people will care about is whether Heath Ledger is nominated for The Joker. That's it.
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I will say I understand where the Academy is coming from here. Yes, the award is for Best Score and it shouldn’t matter how many people worked on it, you are nominating the score and not the person. The problem, however, is that the award does reflect on the talent of the person who made it and by having more names listed under that credit sometimes diminishes that persons contribution in the eyes of the public and his peers. By allowing as many names on it as you want opens up to the possibility for “credit whores” and big egos to try and put their name there, and know they can be considered just as much a composer of the film and be eligible for an award even if what they added was minimal.
I should know, I recently just finished editing an independent feature and the director is trying to be the great auteur and get his name on as many of the credits as possible, including listing himself as to co-editor (and for the record, he did not make one edit in that film and I can also say that we pretty much went with the majority of my editing decisions for the film). So I can see why the Academy would have this rule in place.
However, I did see a demonstration on the sound of the Dark Knight at the Egyptian Theatre where they explained how Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard worked. Hans pretty much went freestyle and recorded a bunch of different musical instruments without looking at the picture; and Howard went back and cut it to the music and picked the instruments and even looped parts over and over again as he deemed necessary. So it definitely was collaboration between those two
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I snagged it moments before it went down, and now it can be endlessly re-uploaded. Take that!
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the new T4 trailer. That's what happens when I have multiple tabs open!
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is that usually only one name gets to be shown on the posters and cd covers. This is particularly true with Zimmer and his clone army. If you look at each of the scores for the Pirates of the Caribbean films for example, there are at least half a dozen extra composers who wrote music for each of them, but only Zimmer gets credit. Nobody knows who wrote what or how much they wrote.
When you talk about scripts (which someone mentioned above) whoever wrote it usually gets credits. If there are doubts regarding who wrote what or who deserves credit, they take it to whoever decides those things and they say who gets story credits, writing credits etc.
That doesn't happen with soundtracks and because of this Zimmer & Co. keep using ghost writers again and again. That is the problem, the ghost writing and the fact that only god knows who wrote what in those scores, but they keep trying to make us believe it was Zimmer.
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Dec 09, 2008 2:53:00 PM CST
Where did the 'The Academy Extracts Its Head...' story go?
by thebearovingian
I would've rather posted in that TB. I preferred the wording. Surely this was important enough for two identical stories.All hail the scores for Batman Begins and The Dark Knight! Good music to work out to. Strength and honor!
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..now you're on to something.
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from it's ass. The score was good, not great. First and foremost, a score should work for the film. This score does. Next, it should have memorable music that adds to the action, not take away from it. It falls flat in the memorable department. IT is good, though.
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I didn't even notice the film had a score! I respect both composers as well! But I guess you shouldn't notice a film's score either but nothing really stood out for me...
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...Means the old farts who run the Academy want to bow to pressure to award The Dark Knight something... but they'll just give it the Best Score award instead of having to award what they deem a "genre picture" with one of the major categories. Bottom line: this probably means no posthumous Best Supporting Actor for Heath Ledger.
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Hell ya.
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If anyone thinks that TDK isn't going to lead the nominations (and probably wins) this year, you need to check your head. If Titanic can win as much as it did based on box office, then why can't a TDK which is a better movie. And Ledger is a shoo-in for best supporting actor, they don't even need to open the envelope. Seriously. This will just be another nomination to add to the inevitable pile.
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Dec 09, 2008 3:06:51 PM CST
BOMP...dee-dee...BOMP...dee-dee...BOMP...dee-dee...
by nasty in the pasty
BOMP-BOMP-BOMP!
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Dec 09, 2008 3:07:49 PM CST
Just buy the Batman: TAS set that was just released by LaLaLand
by nasty in the pasty
Shirley Walker would kick Team Zimmer's ASS.
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...I hope folks aren't confusing the concept with fanfare. In my opinion, Danny Elfman's score for BATMAN is one of the most obnoxious bits of musical composition I can think of. I know a lot of people like the "theme" but to me, it sounds like something a highschool band would play at a pep rally.When considering the music used in BB and TDK, I'm reminded of the score Vangelis composed for BLADE RUNNER. The BR soundtrack is a textbook example of image coupled with ambience. It's music that is devoid of a signature theme or motif and yet it fits perfectly within the context of the film. As a consequence, it's largely regarded as one of the finer film scores around.
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TDK will rack their nominations up in the technical department (makeup, costume, score, cinematography). TDK will NOT win Best Picture, (might not even get nominated) MILK will (Prop 8 sympathy vote). And Heath might get a nomination, but most likely will not win.
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The two main parts I remember that stood out for me was, of course, the Joker's theme and the music that plays during the Two Face/ Gordon hostage scene.
From the Joker's music you really got a sense that something bad was about to happen. Maybe it was all in the build-up from the opening "buzz" but it really made you aware how evil and dangerous this guy was.
I remember sitting on the edge of my seat during the final Two Face scene and the music stood out there for me. Been a while since I've seen it but it sounded both menacing and sad at the same time.
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Harry, this isn't 'Nam, this is the Academy, there are rules.
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You underestimate the hype machine. The sure money is on TDK following the Return of the King model, although maybe not quite as successful. Most major category noms except for acting. Supporting actor being the exception. Ledger is as sure a win as Javier Bardem was for No Country for Old Men. Name one other supporting actor this year who has had buzz on the level that ledger has?
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I'm just talking about noms, the only for sure win is Ledger right now.
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Hans Zimmer is a solid composer and with TDK he really topped everything he did before by miles. Maybe we can blame James Newton Howard's influence for that one.
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Who cares what The Academy thinks? It's just the industry handing out awards to itself. A self-serving circle-jerk that shouldn't mean anything to anyone not in a Hollywood union.
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I also agree for that non-acting role in No Country for Old Men, Heath Ledger should be a shoe-in for the supporting actor role here (not to mention he's dead). Probably will not win best picture, although it should be nominated, but Directing and Writing should both be on the table.
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Dec 09, 2008 3:53:17 PM CST
so if it doesn't win, how many losers will castrate themselves?
by dannyglovers_dickblood
Jesus Christ....just put your cock in a cunt and call it a day.
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most of it was just schizophrenic noise.
And Ledger will lose that best supporting actor trophy to Tropic Thunder's Robert Downey Jr. KIRK LAZARUS RULES!!
and yes, I'm saying this mainly to piss off the TDK fans. It was an okay movie, nothing more. If not for Ledger's Joker most of you would have hated it. -
...if Heath's Joker had been replaced with John C. McGinley's Riddler.
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Damn You Michael Bay
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The would be insane, lol. It'll never happen though. When was the last time someone in black face got that kind of praise...Al Jolson?
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Dec 09, 2008 4:12:34 PM CST
whats the difference between Heath Ledger and Neil Armstrong?
by dannyglovers_dickblood
Neil Armstrong walked on the moon, and Heath Ledger is fucking dead.
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it was Zimmer/Howard that was hired to score the movie not Zimmer/Howard and Zimmer's 89 assistants and 129 orchestrators.
Williams, Goldsmith and other masters have our respects because they did everything themselves, they didn't rely on assistants or wall to wall orchestrators to transport their midi mouse clicking into music, they did that shit themselves. Howard Shore did EVERYTHING in LOTR by himself, that's over 13 hours of music all by himself and yet Zimmer can't score one movie by himself? -
that wasn't even shocking. it was quite shit. and im upset because id almost finished the other night's episode of dexter when my megavideo bandwidth ran out. bastard flat mates. woot: dark knight.
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over 95% of the "music" is from the first movie, note for note. the only new material is that one note motif for The Joker which was effective in the movie but a pain to listen to outside the movie.
and that so called Harvey Dent theme is a theme from the first movie written for Bruce Wayne. they even do a heroic version of it for the scene in the first movie when he goes to the batcave to suit up after talking to Rachel on his birthday.
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Who cares about the fucking Oscars anyway bunch of pointless shit! folk voted with their wallets and their taste i could give a fuck if it won any golden baldies! I KNOW it's a classic I don't need a bunch of ass heads to tell me so!
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We might all disagree with the picks and the winners, but lets not kid ourselves and say the Oscar isn’t important. It is very important and can make and break movies and careers.
Just getting nominated can add $10-20 million to your box office, and winning it can’t turn any movie into a must see. Same with individuals: get nominated and you suddenly are a respectable artist; win the little gold guy and you can see yourself making serious bucks. And being nominated or winning it can make the difference in a guys career whether he will be hired or find financing for his next movie. That is why I root for the guys I like to win it to ensure they can keep making the movies they want to.
So while it may not be a real judge of true artistic talent, it is very important for financial reasons and public awareness.
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Walk Up 2 Yo House Knock On Yo Door N Blow Yo Ass Up!!!!!
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11 oscars or some shit right??? I would not be surprised if TDK got best picture. You'r looking at it all wrong if you think it has to be artsy farty high brow or related to an alternative sex lifestyle. No, no it has to be the It or it's time when it's out. This is more and more true each year, and in truth it's better for buisness cause at the end of the day it's all about the money....
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Dec 09, 2008 4:56:48 PM CST
I don't need the Academy to tell me what a good movie is
by mattmanreturns
No matter what happens, The Dark Knight is a better movie than The English Patient.
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but it won't win. Nyman's music for The Piano didn't win because the academy thought it sounded too much like his other work. 'nuff said.
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It is incredible the hubris towards both new composers and multiple composers. The first thing mentioned off the lips from viewers after watch There Will Be Blood was: Amazing Daniel Day Lewis, Amazing Cinematography, and Amazing Music! Johnny Greenwood should have at very least been recognized. My guess is Dario Marionelli has some Pia Zadora in him. Hence Greenwood being ruled ineligible without sufficient time to appeal the ruling (two days). As stated above, what difference would it make if one, or fifty people wrote the score. If producers can be listed endlessly for best picture, then... The academy is sadly still a realm of elitism, protecting and rewarding long time members of the industry. This though, is a move, no doubt, due to the success of the film. And is the right move.
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Lammme.
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and whoever says this score sucks, should try to listen!
This is the best scores in many years. Up to par with The Thin Red Line, Solaris, Blade Runner, etc...
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No. And that's the problem.
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surely film is a collaborative medium anyway. thats like banning someone from winning best director because the movie credits were too long.
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But HEY... hst666 makes a point. Dark Knight is WAY better as a film than Titanic was, even considering the hype back in 97/98. But that's no excuse, there are better movies this year, and two wrongs don't make one right.
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The Joker theme (which I like) is controversial, not because it's not fanfaric, but because it's more soundscape than actual music. I think it's a theme, but many don't agree.
Elfman's Batman is nothing like a high school band. Listen to Giacchino's recording of the Mission: Impossible theme for that.
Bladerunner has many tunes and motifs that could be considered thematic. Basically listen to tracks 3 to 11 on the soundtrack - all melodic, all more musical than soundscape. And all far more interesting, refreshing and listenable than the TDK score.
TDK score is good, don't get me wrong. It's made by some of the best (whether it's made by one person or many, who cares if the resulting product is good). The movie should win awards, just not the score. -
I am sick and tired of patronizing anti-piracy messages on DVDs ... I was an honest consumer, but they are so annoying that I'm very tempted to find a source for films that doesn't have them.
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MNG was talking about how Batman's fanfare is not a theme.
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"Why So Serious?" is some of the freshest movie music I've heard in a long time, anyone that says otherwise is just being a typical TBer
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Seriously, if this gets nominated and not, say, Carter Burwell's IN BRUGES, I just might kill someone.
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then TDK should win for "Why So Serious".
Unfortunately there's a couple of other hours of music that let it down.
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Back when it came out for Batman Begins. But after a couple of years of being Mansell'ed by movie trailers its not as exciting. It was amazing in the first one when nobody noticed it. Its good and all, but I think its the one thing that isn't better then the original series. Besides Wall-E is a much better score.
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Dec 09, 2008 6:26:12 PM CST
Will Michelle Williams accept Ledger's Best Actor Oscar?
by leafar the lost
It will either her or Jake Gyllenhaal. The Academy cannot pass up that moment. It doesn't happen too often. If the Academy does not nominate and give Heath Ledger the Best Actor Oscar, then they can all fuck themselves...
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so only people Ledger had sex with can accept the Oscar for him?
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Holy fuck. All 80's scores are fucking terrible. I supposed Scarface's score was cutting edge too? Awful, just awful.
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And, more importantly, it should have won Best Soundtrack, just like it SHOULD have won Best Picture. Unfortunately, because they also used music from another Jonny Greenwood soundtrack (Bodysong, also totally fucking amazing - used during the oil rig fire scene) it was ineligible. Fuckers! TWBB shoulda swept the Oscars. SWEPT IT!
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I think I heard the first film's score was unfairly disqualified too.
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Um dude, have you heard the Joker theme??
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more choices for FX and Animated Feature, a recount for Saving Private Ryan, etc...
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There's a limit on the number of "cooks" for an award from the Academy that is judging one of the most collaborative arts in history (if you go by numbers of contributors/artists.)
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...of objectivity in art and storytelling.
Folks, I got news for you: nobody judges movies objectively. We experience them, and experience them subjectively.
This is why I seem to enjoy most of the movies I watch, while most talkbackers seem to have all the ability of Ebenezer Scrooge, pre-spirit makeover, to enjoy the film. They employ this ironic distance from the material, as if the point is to see everything clearly.
No, the point of these things is to entertain, to seep up from under the subconscious and get into people's heads. The point is to craft, 90% of the time, the mood, the atmosphere, and all the little clues that tell people what's going on without beating them over the head with it.
To many people, unfortunately, approach films with this visual and audio plainess and obviousness, because they don't think to themselves "How do the elements of the shot, the soundtrack and everything work together to tell us about the world of this film beyond the literal detail?"
No, the real question is when folks on this site are going to realize that they've got to think for themselves, and not merely demonstrate this "too cool for school" cynicism, which really speaks little to their actual understanding of good work. Loosen up. Stop trying to imitate critics. Start enjoying movies for what they are, rather than tearing your hair out for what they aren't. -
anti-piracy messages? ah hell, I fucking hate DVD menus. Let's be soooooooooooo creative - 3D and swirling effects and oh so much shit flying around! You know what? I just want to play the goddamn fucking movie. That's all. Fuck menus.
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for saying that. I agree 100%. These self-styled critic hats are useless. It's time to enjoy films for what they are.
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Score and Supporting Actor. Maybe some of the other technical awards. If it's nominated for Best Picture or Best Screenplay, I will weep for Oscar's lost last shred of integrity.
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am I missing something? The Dark Knight soundtrack just sounded like re-warmed Hans Zimmer to me. Not awful or anything, but certainly in no way memorable. And while I thought the movie was good, I don't get the worship. It was very good and very dark until the buildings blow up. AS soon as Dent turns into two face, the movie gets pretty lame. The two ferries thing? Felt like something out of that Stallone crapper Daylight.
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It's just the latest stop on the nonsensical TDK Great Jerkoff of 08. Where all dissent from the masses, particularly the fanboy masses, gets you yelled at and your intelligence insulted. Hooray for sheep!
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Well, it certainly sounds like you guys could use a good jerk.Try not to choke on your bitter bones of "dissent", fellas.
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Dec 10, 2008 12:58:00 AM CST
when Nolan's Batman films are compared to Blade Runner....
by dannyglovers_dickblood
....it pisses me the fuck off. The score for TDK isn't a hair on Tangerine Dream's founding member's nuts. Get fucking real. The experimental Joker stuff is pretty cool, but the central Batman theme is still absolute shit. And it is just 50% recycled Begins cues. Hans Zimmer sucks fucking balls and I don't want him to win shit.
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BLADE RUNNER was brought up in the context of the score - not the film. Your reaction is pretty funny though considering you once blasted BLADE RUNNER's score for having lousy keyboard sounds or some shit. You think Zimmer and Howard's score is shit. That's fine. I think Elfman's score is fermented bile. It's all subjective. No biggie.
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anyway. They're mostly "mood" music overfilled with cues. For christ's sake, even a freaking 80's comedy like Stripes has a truly great score compared to the marco bellinelli, Hans Zimmer, David Arnold nonsense we get now. Wheer are the composers? Come back Ennio Moricone!!
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I don't care what she says, I want a paternity test!
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Listen to Alexandre Desplat, Brian Tyler and Kenji Kawai if you're bored with the ones you mention. I agree Zimmer's action cues can sound a bit samey, but David Arnold is one of the few remaining composers who can do lush orchestrals mixed with rock elements justice. What in particular don't you like about him?
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Thats funny.... but although you may be unable to distinguish Marco Beltrami, and Dario Marianelli, both of them have written rather fine music for a number of films.... check out the track 'Radio' from Terminator 3 for example.
I don't think film music is in a bad place right now really, and I'm certainly happy that Hans Zimmer is doing something different from the 'Crimson Tide/King Arthur/Broken Arrow/The Rock' action music that he did to death a few years ago. I mean, compare his fantastic work scoring 'The Prince of Egypt' to his 'Thin Red Line' score, or the track 'Up is Down' on Pirates 3 to the track 'Chevaliers de Sangreal' from 'The Da Vinci Code'. The guy knows how to score films to great effect. Yes, it's well known that he uses a large number of people to create the music, but look at how many people his 'studio' has given us... people like John Powell (X3 was a good score), Harry Gregson-W (Kingdom of Heaven, Narnia etc.), and Steve Jablonsky (come on, the Transformers themes are cool). And while they do tend to share a musical sensibility (except Gregson-W maybe) they all provide perfect music for the not-so perfect films they work on.
Klaus Badelt is another example of someone who can truly write good themes, but very rarely does.... I suggest you listen to the entire score to 'The Time Machine', and my God, if any of you haven't heard his score to Chen Kaige's Wu Ji (The Promise) then you really must... it's gorgeous stuff.
In my opinion, the finest track on TDK score is 'Like A Dog Chasing Cars', which truly is the high point of the 'Nolan Batman' musical life so far. If you want to know who I think SHOULD be writing music to 'big' movies, it would be the wonderful 'Murray Gold', who has been writing the scores for 'Doctor Who' for the last few years, and has done an absolutely superb job. Find these tracks:
FROM SEASON 3:
All The Strange, Strange Creatures
Martha's Theme
The Doctor Forever
The Runaway Bride
This is Gallifrey: Our Childhood, Our Home
Martha Triumphant
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The Doctor's Theme Series 4
The Greatest Story Never Told
The Dark And Endless Dalek Night
A Pressing Need To Save The World
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Dec 10, 2008 3:36:34 AM CST
There is a reason THERE WILL BE BLOOD wouldnt be nominated
by ricarleite
The guy is from Radiohead. You don't give an Oscar to Radiohead.
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Although Radiohead are cool, and don't need no steenken awards!
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Just read back. I'm dumb!
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Duh.
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How can anyone, except for an idiot, think that Ledger wasn't the lead actor in TDK? Maybe you could argue that he supported the entire movie, but that is bullshit! He was the reason TDK was so successful. Maybe the Olsen Twins should accept the Oscar on his behalf...
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he needs to stop stealing from others and himself..only way itll win because its riding the coattails of a great film with a hype machine
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Uhhhh, that wasn't me that blasted Blade Runner's score. I fucking love all things Vangelis and Tangerine Dream. I have blasted Zimmer many times for his shitty synth orchestra sound though.
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You people are fucking insane. Pirates is the same fucking score as Gladiator. Give it a listen.
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The theory is that its not fair to compare the efforts of 1 human being against the combined teamwork of 10 human beings. Regardless of talent or inherent musical skill, 10 people can accomplish much much more in the same time frame as one single individual.
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Dec 10, 2008 10:45:47 AM CST
I would be very happy to be the guy who beat...
by dannyglovers_dickblood
..Hans and his 73 merry orchestrators.
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Best Actor noms go to the actor portraying the main character. ie: Christian Bale. It doesn't matter what your fevered brain WANTS the definition to encompass, that's what it DOES encompass. Brilliant and logical fellas like you are the reason TDK isn't picked apart like it deserves more often.
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I'll thank you to remove the quotes from your use of the term. Next time YOU write multiple paragraphs in a talkback deconstructing a movie you have problems with, I'll remember to call your post "dissent".
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That is'nt always the case. Anthony Hopkins won Best Actor for his portrayal in Silence of the Lambs, was not the protagonist and he was only in the movie for 16 minutes!! Surely Ledger, who carried the entire film and who's performance is even better, should be included in the best actor category as well.
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Dec 10, 2008 10:59:16 AM CST
gladiator and pirates also sound like rock and crimson tide
by six demon bag
and blahblahblah even sounds like lion king...zimmer has hacked hisself out working for all those bruckheimer flicks
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OK...you do whatever you need to do to keep fighting that fight.I have no problem with people discussing the shortcomings of any said film. However, there are those who probably take umbrage at the use of the word "sheep" when referring to those who enjoyed said film - as if those folks aren't or shouldn't be capable of doing so because they're in the overwhelming majority.
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Its all over the map; atonal strings, industrial grime, ambient moments too. The rest of the music is okay, but the Joker's theme stands out. Its quite awesome.
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Huh? where has he gone? He's still working. Guess maybe you're out of touch with film music, huh? He's scored 6 films in the last 2 years...
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Could it be any clearer? The way is now open for the "Dark Knight" score to be considered for Oscar. Hmmm, methinks this means that there's no way in friggin' hell the blue-hairs that run the Academy would give a "real" Oscar to one of those summer comic book movies. "Dark Knight" might get nominated for Best Picture; Heath might get nominated for some acting spot (most likely supporting) - but the Academy (with very few exceptions) has pretty much relegated the costuming, set decoration, art direction, make-up and score Oscars to typical popcorn fare. "Dark Knight" won't rise above the "creative crafts" Oscar ghetto. Just watch.
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and my enthusiasm has waned for it. The ferry sequence was especially weak. I think it suffers from character overload. Still worth the price of a DVD, but I don't think I'll be going back to the theater for it come January. Even in Imax.
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'nuff said.
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What's good for the goose is good for the gander. I slung the word "sheep" around. It's a fair cop.
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Academy voters old AND young will be complete soulless sell-outs without artistic integrity if TDK gets a Best Picture nod... (which virtually guarantees at least a nod - gotta keep the awards show ratings high)
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I was actually going for more of a where have you gone Joe DiMaggio kind of thing. But if literal is all you understand, hey that's okay too. Let me see... Zimmer - bad. Morricone - good. Composers with more than mood music and cues in their bags of tricks - good. See how much fun this is? Dumbass.
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seemed like something out of a spiderman movie, which ain't a good thing. ever notice the way they'd give too many close-ups to extras, and start giving people on trains character revealing lines when they should have just stood there in the background and looked surprised? Maybe? Is that one a bridge too far?
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Dec 11, 2008 2:05:52 AM CST
So Visual FX should be excluded too since so many are behind it?
by pixelsmack
Asinine to even consider excluding the score!
Oh look there was a second unit Director, nope, now we exclude the film from Best Director too.
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