Dec. 9, 2008, 7:39 a.m. CST
Feeling left out
Dec. 9, 2008, 8:09 a.m. CST
by lex romero
BNAT sounds fantastic every year but the expense is just too much for me in the UK. <br><br>I wish there was a similar thing in london. Or if I knew of a cinema anywhere near as cool as the drafthouse sounds. Anyone in England know of cool little cinemas?
Dec. 9, 2008, 8:11 a.m. CST
Movie queue waits for you!
Dec. 9, 2008, 8:15 a.m. CST
we do have 8 attendees from the UK this year.
Dec. 9, 2008, 8:20 a.m. CST
I'll be there early because I know a few people trying to get in standby and I want to wish them the best of luck!
Dec. 9, 2008, 8:30 a.m. CST
I'd just sit there dripping blood on the Alamo Drafthouse floor.
Dec. 9, 2008, 9:07 a.m. CST
by lex romero
I'm sure some folks from the UK are attending. It doesn't change the fact that it's way out of the price range for a lot of us here, it'd be expensive getting a flight from east coast to Texas let alone across the atlantic to. <br><br> I'm not blaming you or anything, but let us have our moment to moan, the stuff you put on and gets put on in the other drafthouse theatres sounds fantastic, the atmosphere, the food etc leaves most of us envious. There's nothing comparable to it in the UK (which i suppose makes it more special), very few small cinemas or non big chain cinemas and those that are small don't do anything like the drafthouse. <br><br> Any change drafthouse want to open a few places in england? heh.
Dec. 9, 2008, 9:43 a.m. CST
Cos I'm a cheeky monkey!
Dec. 9, 2008, 9:43 a.m. CST
...that you've ever locked in the lineup? Seems like this is pretty early compared to the past few years. I am SO STOKED!!
Dec. 9, 2008, 10:29 a.m. CST
It would be cool. You choose 24 hours worth of DVD's once a year as the perfect 24 hour couch-a-thon. Set up an amazon shop or something to just buy the lot and then those who of us who are too poor or are trapped in the day to day and can't come can still get their taste..........just an idea.
Dec. 9, 2008, 10:50 a.m. CST
...who can afford 4 days off work, plus the cost of a last-minute return flight to Austin, plus accommodation, etc. etc. No fucking excuse. People have been asking you for help organising a UK BNAT for years, and you never fucking listen. Harry hasn't even deigned to respond to any of the half a dozen emails I have sent him on the subject over the last 5 years. Frankly, I'm more than a little pissed off at how you treat your UK readers, and as far as I'm concerned, AICN can go fuck itself. Banned? I couldn't give less of a toss. Empire Online's a much better movie news site anyway.
Dec. 9, 2008, 11:06 a.m. CST
Hey Harry, you said that "standby will be handled by lottery like always". Is that including the standby folks who were supposed to be chosen from the Austin Submissions? (via the first BNAT post "the standby folks will be chosen from the Austin Submissions - sometime prior to locking the Yearbook... so you may be included in there. You will be notified via email - along with a site announcement.") Or have things changed and there will be just one standby line after all? Sorry to be a pest! The idea of there being "very very very few seats" fills me with dread and I am grasping at straws and clinging to (possibly) false hope.
Dec. 9, 2008, 11:11 a.m. CST
Harry will post a fake BNAT lineup of movies that you can watch at home that are similar to the movies that will shown in some way. Normally it is posted Sat morning.
Dec. 9, 2008, 11:44 a.m. CST
You da man, Nick!
Dec. 9, 2008, 12:04 p.m. CST
Why don't you organize one yourself instead of bitch about it for five consecutive years, man? Or just apply hoping to get in.<br> <br> I'm traveling from Sweden to attend BNAT, as I did last year. You think I can afford it? Not really, but I do it for my love of cinema and I make a lot of sacrifices to go. Austin is an amazing place for film lovers and BNAT is arguably The coolest film event to be part of, not to mention all the parties and meeting new friends and stuff, and the fact that there is only one is part of what makes it special to go.<br> <br> But hey I wouldn't mind a UK Butt-Numb-A-Thon, so whenever you get yours going, you'll find my name among the applications. (as long as it's in early December).
Dec. 9, 2008, 12:05 p.m. CST
is what I meant.
Dec. 9, 2008, 12:31 p.m. CST
I wonder how many Canadians will be in attendance. See you all in three days!
Dec. 9, 2008, 12:40 p.m. CST
I am just torturing myself, but the BNAT breakfast menu looks so great this year. </sob>
Dec. 9, 2008, 1:23 p.m. CST
I tried the lotto 2 years ago and didnt make it. Maybe I will get lucky this year. Unfortunetly I just was not able to do the quiz to try for a regular invite.
Dec. 9, 2008, 1:24 p.m. CST
by The Reluctant Austinite
Hey, Lissa, where did you find a breakfast menu?
Dec. 9, 2008, 1:30 p.m. CST
by The Reluctant Austinite
Nick Park has completed a 4th Wallace & Gromit short called "A Matter of Loaf and Death" that I think would make a cool 30 minute feature between features. Also, Jose Majica Marins, AKA Coffin Joe, has completed a new film that finishes the trilogy he began with his first two films 40 years ago. That would make a great BNAT midnight movie. Anybody want to spill the latest rumors or give their latest guesses at what will be showing?
Dec. 9, 2008, 1:37 p.m. CST
The Reluctant Austinite, I saw EMBODIMENT OF EVIL, Coffin Joe's latest, at the Stockholm Film Festival. Keep a lookout for the 9th report to see my review of that film (when Moriarty has time to post it).
Dec. 9, 2008, 1:49 p.m. CST
To those lucky enough to be attending this year, please go and have a great time for all of us! I think it's a great event (one I hope to attend one day) and I will be imagining what Dr.Harry is drilling into your skulls during the 24-hour marathon. Life is too short not to have fun with events like this!
Dec. 9, 2008, 2:04 p.m. CST
But you have to be a cheeky monkey to get one! See you Friday, bro.
Dec. 9, 2008, 2:05 p.m. CST
by The Reluctant Austinite
I'll look out for your review. I met a guy who runs the Universal Monster Army at Wonderfest this year who apparently got to play the young Coffin Joe in the film. I saw him do his Coffin Joe impersonation and he's amazing. And Lissa, I found www.buttnumbathon.com as well as a couple of other related blogs. I want the Creme Brulee French toast! I'm getting on plane for Austin tomorrow morning, but like many of you my seat isn't a sure thing. I'm going to say my prayers tonight.
Dec. 9, 2008, 2:17 p.m. CST
I'll tell you this much: EMBODIMENT OF EVIL is great. I'm sure you won't be disappointed.
Dec. 9, 2008, 2:23 p.m. CST
by Bob Loblaw Law Blog
Oh man... I can't wait! I'm depriving myself of caffeine all week long.<p> Plus, my sister-in-law lives in Austin, and I'm taking my niece for a pre-BNAT showing of "Bolt" at the Alamo Drafthouse South. I took her to see "Enchanted" last year, and she loved it (or, at least she loved the nachos and pizza I bought for her... I mean, she's 11 years old, so she's easy to please).<p>See the rest of you BNATters this weekend!
Dec. 9, 2008, 2:55 p.m. CST
I am coming from Atlanta. Spending the days off unpaid (two family deaths earlier this year ate my vacation time) and hoping to hell I get in. If I do it will be with a song in my heart and a THANK YOU to all involved. Plus, I am bringing the latest in my WHITE GIRLS CAN'T MIX series. Let me know if you're interested, it's a 2-disc mixtape cd-set.
Dec. 9, 2008, 2:56 p.m. CST
that I was not on the list, so am going standby.... I am GO FOR AWESOME!
Dec. 9, 2008, 3:02 p.m. CST
I can't believe you are flying in for standby. Good luck to you. I will be with you in the standby line.
Dec. 9, 2008, 3:07 p.m. CST
by Bob Loblaw Law Blog
Bring me a mix CD... you still owe me from last year! ;)<p>No matter what happens, my wife got you a really cool present for the gift exchange! See you on Friday!
Dec. 9, 2008, 3:08 p.m. CST
Let's hope that like about a dozen people don't show, and that we (and the others I know in standby) get in, yes? ATL to Austin is big big HOPE for me, so I hope/wish/plead for it to work.
Dec. 9, 2008, 3:13 p.m. CST
Were you in the front row last year? I think I sat next to you. I loved your CDs.
Dec. 9, 2008, 3:26 p.m. CST
I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you. In any case, I'm bringing you a little something for christmas so you won't return empty handed. It's not much, but it's something.
Dec. 9, 2008, 3:39 p.m. CST
by drew mcweeny
<P>... I love how you call someone an asshole for not organizing his birthday party around YOUR wants and needs. I'd love it if BNAT was in LA and they showed it in my house while someone tickled my ass with an ostrich feather... but that's not BNAT, is it? <P>It's amazing the things people choose to use as reasons to attack Harry. And based on your tone, it's amazing Harry hasn't rushed to rearrange his birthday party in order to make you happy, Random UK Person. <P>And did I mention it's his birthday party? You douche?
Dec. 9, 2008, 3:59 p.m. CST
I'm a person who works a job in a bakery where I'm busier this time of year, thus I can't even think of going to Texas so I don't even try to get into BNAT. Have you ever considered any type of regional events at the same time as BNAT? That way more people could attend and for people like me it would be much more convient and possible to attend. I'm not even talking gift bags and every thing else you give out in Austin... just the films. Has anything like that ever been discussed by you and your fellow organizers?
Dec. 9, 2008, 4:45 p.m. CST
I sincerely apologise. I don't do that often as in general we are an OK bunch.... but every now and again someone opens their mouth and makes us look like whiney fucking assholes. Today that person was King Knut. The Queen of England also sends her deepest heartfelt regrets.
Dec. 9, 2008, 4:46 p.m. CST
Happy Birthday Harry. May he have many more. I'm not asking for anyone to celebrate their birthday anywhere else, or to tickle my arse with an ostrich feather. I'm just asking, or rather, I've given up asking, that you consider European film geeks every once in a while, whether for competitions, BNAT-type events (you've had a BNAT-and-a-half before now, which clearly would not fall on Harry's birthday), or anything else. There just appear to be no concessions within AICN for anyone who does not live within easy driving distance of Austin. I appreciate you wanting to keep it homely, etc. but considering the scope of your readership, it seems a little antagonistic (not to mention short-sighted) that you seldom host anything outside of the Drafthouse. And to the Swede who encouraged me to try to create my own BNAT style event - I did, when I was a student and had acres of time, but didn't have the clout to get my local indie cinema to host it, or the student bodies to back it. I now work 72-hour weeks, so I hope you understand when I say that I genuinely have more important things to do.
Dec. 9, 2008, 4:47 p.m. CST
If you can't make it into BNAT, come to Fantastic Fest in Septempber. Anyone can get in, you just have to buy a ticket. The movies are great, it lasts 8 days, and is my favorite part of every year driving to Austin from Florida.
Dec. 9, 2008, 4:53 p.m. CST
...is sounding like a better and better idea all the time.
Dec. 9, 2008, 5:09 p.m. CST
I'm still waiting to hear an apology for Liam Gallagher.
Dec. 9, 2008, 5:12 p.m. CST
Or so I heard
Dec. 9, 2008, 5:22 p.m. CST
I live in the states but people can't celebrate birthday parties out of the country once? Isn't this supposed to be a movie event? It seems to be a birthday party masquerading as a movie event. I'm surprised pwesents are not required for admission. It has been mentioned it's his birthday enough times. Although I do credit him for not posting a pwesents wanted list this year. Throw the folks in the UK/Europe a bone once in a while. Would it kill ya? First poster above mentions feeling left out in the UK and Harry's response is there are 8 people coming from the UK. Oh yeah that helped console them I'm sure. Not everyone can afford transatlantic tickets.
Dec. 9, 2008, 5:51 p.m. CST
by The Reluctant Austinite
New: Valkryie, Red Cliff, Che (the whole damn thing), Watchmen. Old: At Midnight I'll Take Your Soul, The Creature From the Black Lagoon in 3-D, Dreamscape, the uncut Italian print of the Alain Delon version of Zorro. Clips and Presentations: first footage of Avatar, clips of Star Trek, found footage of London After Midnight and the announcement casting of Charlie Hunnam as Thor.
Dec. 9, 2008, 6:20 p.m. CST
At Midnight I'll Take Your Soul was included as a DVD in last year's goodie bag. I don't think we'll see it at BNAT this year.
Dec. 9, 2008, 6:41 p.m. CST
for hosting BNAT in his hometown. In no way is it his responsibility to bring festivals to spots around the world. He's not a millionaire! By the way, if I'm not mistaken, AICN sponsored the awesome Rolling Roadshow last year, which travelled all over the United States. In other words, they don't only stick to Austin.
Dec. 9, 2008, 7:05 p.m. CST
Why do you stupid French snobs always throw your film festival in the country where you live? People have been asking you for help organizing a North American Cannes Film Festival for years, and you never fucking listen. You French fucks haven't even deigned to respond to any of the half a dozen emails I have sent you over the last 5 years requesting that your festival now take place at an industrial park in New Jersey. Frankly, I'm more than a little pissed off at how you treat American film fans, and as far as I'm concerned, Cannes can go fuck itself. Brussels has a much better festival anyway.
Dec. 9, 2008, 7:47 p.m. CST
...if you want to have something cool to do in your area, don't wait for others to bring it to you--get off your ass and make it happen. 12 years ago, I was 24 years old. I was newly married and working full-time; by no means was I a college kid with lots of time or money to kill. As a lifelong horror film fan, my dream was that someone would show classic horror films on the big screen in my city. Since no one was doing such a thing, I decided to try it myself. So I got three of my friends together, we talked a local movie house into renting us the theater for the night, and we showed two old horror films in 35mm. We eached chipped in $150 and, as Mickey Rooney would say, "put on a show." Long story short: the show was a success, despite the fact that we had no experience and none of us knew a thing about film collecting, screenings, etc. Now, years later, we're still doing shows and have screened over 250 classic horror films in 16mm & 35mm. We've done hundreds of screenings, including two different 24 hour marathons where the films are kept secret, similar to BNAT (except that they're all classic horror films). We've amassed a collection of hundreds of movies in 16mm & 35mm and have traded with collectors all over the world. By doing so, we've become friendly with Tim League of the Alamo Drafthouse, and the gracious Mr. League invited us out as his personal guests for two previous BNAT's. The lesson learned is: quit making excuses, take a chance, make something happen in the place where you live, and one day you'll have an event as cool as BNAT to call your own. Or maybe you'll even be able to go to the real one.
Dec. 9, 2008, 8:56 p.m. CST
by Kevin Bosch
Thats exactly the example I was going to post, except I was going to use Sundance. This is Harry's event, which he organized for his Birthday, for himself, and for his friends, the majority of who live in Austin, and for anybody else who can make it. The reason Harry did a half-BNAT which wasn't on his b-day was to commemorate the closing of the original Alamao Drafthouse. Which brings up the fact that BNAT has a lot to do with the Alamo Drafthouse (and Tim League). As much as Cannes has to do with the French Riviera and Sundance with snowy Park City. You can't just pick up and do it somewhere else, because it wouldn't be the same. Plus, It's not Harry RESPONSIBILITY to bring to to every end of the Earth. It's hard enough, it seems, to organize one a year. The reason Austin hosts such a cool event is because it has people like Harry and Tim League. They also started small with no connection and no premieres, but they still made it happen. Instead of just complaining that somebody else should bring in cool things from other places.
Dec. 10, 2008, 1:15 a.m. CST
by Some Dude
See you Friday, Harry.
Dec. 10, 2008, 5:37 a.m. CST
There are a ton of great film festivals already in Europe. The London Film Festival this year opened with the world premier of FROST / NIXON and ended with the Quantum wolrd premier. Yes BNAT is different, but you still have plenty of great choices at your back door to see films before anyone else. Berlin, Venice, Caannes. I too work 90+ hours a week and am based in Germany but I still make the time for the fests as attending them is simply an amazing experience. And yes, I am coming over for BNAT. Writing this from my hotel in NYC atm.
Dec. 10, 2008, 10:27 a.m. CST
I'll still be there waiting on standby. Wouldn't miss it for the world Harry! Get some sleep!
Dec. 10, 2008, 12:03 p.m. CST
The guy's a douche. You want some advice? Try this. Put your head in a garbage disposal.
Dec. 10, 2008, 12:34 p.m. CST
Aaaaaaand... I've pissed off a lot of people. Apologies to those who feel personally affronted by my postings, that was not my intention. I also apologise for the "douche" tone of my original posting - I was quite angry, and vented publically, never a good idea. However, the substance behind that first posting remains: To re-state, for those that compare my "whinings" to asking the Cannes festival to relocate - I am not asking BNAT to happen in the UK. I am asking for AICN to recognise that it has a substantial readership outside of the Lower 48 (and I'm not even the only person to have posted to this effect on this thread, never mind elsewhere), and make a more concerted effort to include its overseas readers. AICN is one of, if not the most readily apparent flag for the international geek community to rally round. And yet that flag often sports a very lone star indeed.
Dec. 10, 2008, 12:36 p.m. CST
Any chance of an edit/delete function on own posts in future? It would help for such occasions as these when opinions are expressed through a red mist...
Dec. 10, 2008, 3:45 p.m. CST
by Kevin Bosch
You made a good point. I think the divide falls in the varied way people see this site. I started reading it years ago, close to it's humble beginnings, so AICN has always naturally seemed very Austin centric to me. I understood that all these interesting people and events were in Austin, and it caused me to visit it for SXSW and even consider moving there. Whereas, theres another group of people that started reading AICN much later, and see it as sort of big, a global operation, and don't understand it's focus on Austin. Ultimitly we have to remember that AICN is pretty much just one guy in Austin, with a couple of friends and associates from around te world that contribute. Harry manages to put together events in his home town the best he can. Anything else done under the AICN names else where (L.A., Chicago) is put together by the respective contributer; Harry very rarely has anything to do with it. The most vast reaching AICN-ish type event - The Rolling Roadshow - is actually organized by Tim Leauge of the Alamo Drafthouse. So you really can't be upset at Harry and act like he's ignoring a section of his readership, when in reality we should be happy for the events he is able to put together. [And an edit butn really is counter to the spirit of Talkbacks, I think, since it's charm falls in the fact that people say what they say and then have to deal with people below them responding with no reprieve. An edit button would give people the power to go back and change or delete the stupid reactionary things they say, which would take all the fun out of it. [I remember a time when the comments would be posted in seemigly random order!]).
Dec. 10, 2008, 5:29 p.m. CST
...I think you explained things nicely.
Dec. 10, 2008, 5:49 p.m. CST
I was just wondering if it has been discussed. I'm not even saying that it would have to be the whole BNAT experience, maybe they could just show the films in other locations, no goodie bags or anything like that. But if its not possible, then its not possible. I live in Vermont, and we don't have any connections to the film world up here. And being someone who is busy at work this time of year, I could go to NYC or Boston for a day to watch films, but a trip to Texas is a little out of reach for me this time of year. So for whoever said that anyone can make it, that's not true. Some people can't make it. But I don't think that Harry or anyone else has an obligation to bring anything to the Northeast. I just wondered if it has been discussed.