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The Roots, Jimmy Fallon’s new house band, make a cameo in the first, 95-second episode of the SNL vet’s video blog, which promotes “Late Night With Jimmy Fallon” each weeknight at 12:30 p.m. ET until the show’s broadcast premiere early next year.
Also revealed is that Fallon will not make his home in 30 Rock’s Studio 6A, which housed the David Letterman and Conan O’Brien versions of “Late Night.” He will instead take over 6B, the home for decades of WNBC’s New York newscast:
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time to scavenge the scorched land
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seriously, AICN is dead when it comes to news. you guys are simply not in the loop at ALL. this was news seriously like... a month ago.
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Well, that's it then. At 37, I'm officially OLD. I'll say it: "The kids these days with their clothes and their music." Never heard of The Roots before, but that snippet pretty well sucked rope. I also think it's hilarious that Fallon tried to engender some goodwill by invoking the names of Carson and Berle. Anyone who purposefully sits down to watch Late Night With Jimmy Fallon likely hasn't a clue who those cats were. God, this show is going to be like a slightly bigger-budget version of Last Call With Carson Daly, isn't it.
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umm that would be moi.
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I like his band.
But no enough to watch his show. -
The Roots are easily the greatest hip hop band on the planet - and have been since they formed nearly 15 years ago. So no, you're not old, you've just been ignorant of a terrific group led by what I would reckon is one of the top ten drummers in the world.
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I doubt Fallon will outlast Chevy Chase's short run.
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i was kinda hoping he would stay in new york..new york shows are always alot better then west coast talk shows..something about being less phoney or something
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...this is very old news. Even the Sports Guy at ESPN.com made a joke about this a couple weeks ago.
Maybe in a few days we'll find out that Leno is moving to Prime Time. -
I mean, every night, they're going to play for Jimmy Fallon's show. Saying that out loud just blows my mind.
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that guy with the big nose and goofy hair that was funny like 10 years ago but couldn't even keep a straight face on SNL but no one has heard of since he oversaturated himself and also did that horrible taxi movie?
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Dec 09, 2008 8:26:47 AM CST
Are the Roots really going to want to do this night after night?
by oogles
I can't see this lasting a long time. I also can't see this show sticking around more than 3 years. So maybe they won't have to worry about it.
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How on fucking Earth did they decide to do this? Yeah, I know what it was. And come on, Canada's King. I didn't know people were still mesmerized by the AMAZING fact that a hip-hop band could actually have a drummer. Don't get me wrong, the guy's good, but you would only be correct if there were only like 11 drummers left on the planet.
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The Roots are a feather in Fallon's cap. More of a chance, I will check this out. I also do not have the visceral hate that some on here have of Fallon. He is clearly a talented guy (if he can keep from laughing).
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I mean, the guy is a one-trick pony, laughing at his own jokes. Is Horatio Sanz going to come out and these two will laugh at their own stupidity for 60 minutes? And now the Roots are the house band? Time for the gag to end, NBC.
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doubleyou INNNN bee see.
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It's going to be Late Night aimed at Gen Y and tweens, apparently. Between Jimmy and the Roots, I can't see much to entice the over-30 crowd to watch.
NBC's lineup is weird now. They're basically moving their late-night talk shows down an hour, and renaming them. Now Leno will be on at 10:00 EST, and Conan's show STILL follows Leno's show, and then Fallon gets the "just getting back from the bar" crowd.
By the way, "Best Rap Group" is kind of the same as saying "Best of the Worst of Music" - Some people say Celine Dion is the "Best Pop Vocalist", but that doesn't keep her from being utter crap to anybody with taste. The same goes for The Roots; They're the best in a field full of people that suck in the first place. It's not exactly an accomplishment to be more musically skilled than P. Diddy and Fifty Cent.
The roots are no Dr. Dre. They're certainly no Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, nor are they Doug E. Fresh and Slick Rick.
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Dec 09, 2008 10:10:30 AM CST
yeah apparently the Roots aren't the same as the Nappy Roots
by donnyunitas
they should just get digital underground to do it.
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I don't expect this turkey to last long. Why couldn't they woo Bill Hader out of SNL to where he could do some real good?
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*WHIPCRACK*
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Zero, obviously you don't like rap at all given what you wrote above, but the Roots transcend what most people think of when they think of Rap. They more resemble a band with a "lead rapper" rather than a lead singer, and their albums span many genres. Check out these songs if you want a taste of what this group is capable of:
Long Time (from Game Theory)
Criminal (from Rising Down)
Rising Up (from Rising Down)
The Next Movement (from Things Fall Apart)
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They won't want to be there everyday.
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that puts it at notch one. I will now watch the first episode.
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just for whoever asked. You think NBC wants to move the tonight show out of la? in they're deranged little minds they look they got both big cities locked down with TV landmarks(prez of nbc said something to that effect.)
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Considering The Roots may be the greatest hip-hop group of all time.
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They are a band with a lead rapper as someone else suggested. They are incredibly talented and I would put them up against Dre any day of the week.
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Hate Fallon, but The Roots actually make this interesting. Though not THAT interesting. House band doesn't do that much on these shows. Still, his does a hack like Fallon score talent like the Roots?
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i think they sucked...usually the house band is able to play all types of music...can these guys do that? i woulda reformed fishbone...kids today need to get some funk in their lives...rap is the devil's music
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Dec 09, 2008 1:01:09 PM CST
That band sucks Jimmy Fallon's Keanu Reeves'-like schlong!
by snake foreskin
Nerdy white guy wants to garner street cred, so he hires a black hip-hop band. Many uncomfortable moments to follow. How predictable!
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But this was reported on mainstream sites like CNN a good month ago. This isn't a case of being scooped by a rival nerd site, this is like the newspaper editor from Deadwood waiting for the New York paper to be delievered by stagecoach before he runs a story...
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Maybe it's because hip hop isn't really music. The "music" you hear in a hip hop song results from sampling someone else's hard work. When these asshats have to do stuff on their own, it sounds like a high school garage band.
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who will be able to stand Fallon 5 nights a week?
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announces that Horatio Sanz will be his Andy Richter. That way Fallon can bring his "brilliant" comedy team to his talk show and perform classic sketches like Jimmy and Horatio breaking characters and laughing at their own lame jokes and Fallon and Sanz breaking character and laughing at their own lame jokes.
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What's with this Fallon kid? Can't he stand still for two seconds? I get that he's excited, but it's like he's got Parkinson's. Even 1993-era Conan could control himself.
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looks like this place has become a forum for angry old white men to air their grievances about "kids these days".
Welcome to the present, grandpa. Where hip-hop is and has been a legitimate artistic form for the past 30 years. -
They've been touring solidly and recording for years and still remain on the fringes of mainstream hip-hop so if someone offers a shitload of cash and the chance to stay at home for a few years so that will have been a factor), who can blame'em? They're an awesome live act and if it gives them a bit more exposure, all power to'em.
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Dec 09, 2008 1:59:34 PM CST
There's alot of cabs in New York. Maybe Fallon will get runover
by tallboy66
And die. Before it airs. And then it'll be justice for making that crappy TAXI movie.
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I'm amazed by some of the comments here. The Roots are a great and highly respected group, but I can't see them doing this night after night for Failon's show. I doubt they will have to though.
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..of show's are going to be cringe inducing for sure. But maybe he'll hit his stride like Conan did. If you go back and watch the first couple of shows Conan did, they were pretty bad. Look at him now though. He's the funniest Late Night host we got! The Roots are a good band too. I think they should have got Gogol Bordello though. I don't they would have went for that.
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how the fuck did i miss that?! wow. epic fail on my part.
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Something is truly wrong in the state of hip hop.
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... 5 weeks old!
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...when Fallon and the Roots get into a huge public pissing match like Leno and Wynton Marsalis did back in the day.
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Only the stereotype promoted by other people who don't understand hip hop.
The Roots, along with quite a few others play their own music. Despite losing Rahzel, they have replaced him with another beat box... who creates his own beats and doesn't use samples.
Your argument is empty anyway. Saying that using samples to create new music is like saying that a rock band can not create music because they did not build their guitars and hone the craft themselves. Using, rearranging and mixing samples is not as easy as it sounds, and far from ripping off. -
So there will be someone to laugh at his jokes.
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...is impersonating somebody in that clip? It looks like he's playing a character, a parody of somebody else. But it's just him being him. Not necessarily a criticism, just something that felt kinds weird.
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put it in any package you want...but there hasnt been a good rap group since nwa and public enemy...i may be old, but i know what is good...and that shit aint good
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I love The Roots. Now, I'll be forced to watch a Jimmy Fallon show and their creative output will come to a standstill.
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Fallon-bashing seems to be the favorite past-time of the Message Board User, but I bet that he's gonna change some minds when his show finally debuts.
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..Have you heard Outkast's "Aquemini"? It's an awesome album! I'm not into that much hip hop or rap, but that album is something else. There are good rap and hip hop acts, it just takes a little searching. It's not my music of choice by any means, but good music is good music I suppose.
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I'd watch that over Craig Ferguson
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but i wouldnt have them as the houseband either...
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Are tight with the Roots. Hopefully, they'll be on once in a while. And with any luck, Jimmy Fallon will gradually disappear and it'll become ?uestlove's show.
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I hope you also checked out their first two albums as well (Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik, and ATLiens). They are classics as well. Stankonia (their 4th) had some good and some bad imo, though some people LOVE it. And Speakerboxxx/The Love Below (LP 5, a double disk with both members doing their disks solo for the most part) is decent too. Can't say I like Idlewild much though. More music coming from them in 2009...
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watches late nite interview/movie-promo shit anymore? Craig Ferguson is the only remotely funny one. The celeb interviews are so boring and weak nowadays. These shows are a complete waste of time.
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I'm just shocked they took the gig.
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What a waste. I was thinking it was going to be Creed or Nickleback, either of which would be totally appropriate.
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The Roots are superior to most hip-hop oufits/artists, because they are indeed a band, not the same old wave your hands, everybody scream, all my fellas in the house crap. But Fallon is not a superior talent in comedy or hosting. Another reason to not stay up late...or stay up late with a good boo, instead. Bet the show tanks within six months.
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Wouldn't know....
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I'm 37 and I've seen the Roots several times FWIW. Ask anyone who appreciates real hip-hop (not the dreadful pop/autotuned/over-produced shit that fills the airwaves these days) and the praise will be pretty much universal.
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to L.A.? I'd assume so to keep having different guests from Letterman.
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Snore. Hip hop is about as classic and timeless as New Age. The last thing I want to hear every commercial break is a real drummer trying to emulate an SP-12
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I'm a fan of ATliens. I havn't heard southernplay...... since high school (im 29). It's been a while. As for the double, i grew tired of it pretty quick. I honestly think the best thing on either of those discs was the first song on Andre 3000's album.
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You must. It's too easy to bash this show. It's wrong. It's like being mean to an little duckling.
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You must. It's too easy to bash this show. It's wrong. It's like being mean to an ugly little duckling.
You must have mercy. -
You must. It's too easy to bash this show. It's wrong. It's like being mean to an ugly little duckling.
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Dec 09, 2008 8:19:50 PM CST
Beastie, sampling is EXACTLY ripping off other's hard work!
by snake foreskin
When Fatboy Slim does it he is ripping off other people's work just as much as when any hip hop artist does it.
And no, it isn't the same as saying "if rock musicians can't take apart their instruments then they're not talented". That's stupid. Rock musicians who play their instruments well can garner respect for that. The VAST majority of hip hop artists do not play instruments, can't read or write music, and have no talent other than coming up with really bad rhymes and making them sound cool.
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Fallon is a no talent douchebag that has never been funny. And he never will be. He just doesn't have "it". Whose cock did he suck to even get this gig in the first place?
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But I hate rap. FAIL.
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i will watch if only for the roots,1 of the worlds greatest rappers..very underated
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roots crew
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Dec 09, 2008 10:33:04 PM CST
Beastie, Astro Turf has destroyed the sport of football
by brandloyalist
Man, dude, the "debate" on sampling was already a tired cliche when Conan took over Late Night!
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the Roots are Grammy Award winning artist.
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What the FUCK are The Roots doing in the same BUILDING with Jimmy Fucking Fallon?
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I'll just take this Talkback's word that The Roots is a good hip-hop/rap band. Doesn't bring me one jot closer to liking what I heard on that video. But I'll confess that hip-hop has never been my thing, and I don't keep up with any of it. So, yeah, never heard of them. Glad you guys are into them, I guess. Music, like everything else we argue about on these boards, is subjective after all. And Phategod1, awards like the Grammies and the Oscars are pretty useless measurements of actual worth when it comes down to it. I mean, Britney Spears is a Grammy Award winning artist too. That certainly doesn't legitimize her as some great musician or singer. Jimmy Fallon is an unfunny hack, and I'd put Max Weinberg up against... hold on let me Google it.... "?uestlove" in a drum-off anytime.
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I agree you with spot on man. Its quite amusing to think these cats are the best of the worst. As for hip-hop, sure there's some 80's/early 90's classics, but a majority of the music is so ear-shatteringly atrocious, I don't know how people honestly listen to it. And no, I'm not some 50 year old man cursing the youth, I've recently turned 21 myself. There's so much wonderful music out there I just can't stand when people waste their time on bullshit, and more often then not, it's just to fit in. Lameeeeee.
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IS as easy as it sounds. I bought that argument until I used the programs available. Have you ever used a sequencer? Tried Reason, Cubase or others? You can slap together a better song than most hip hop idiots have every written in about four minutes. I'm not kidding.
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**ever (kill the "y")
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Don't you have some kids to shoo off your lawn or something?
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...through ever stricter anti-sampling rulings in court, higher fees for sampled music and an ever more Byzantine approval process for securing the rights to the music sampled. Most hip-hop artists today avoid sampling and even when they do use it, they hire out studio musicians to mimic the song in question instead of actually sampling the recording. The move by corporations and their government puppets against sampling was ultimately brought about for two reasons, 1) The commodification of all art and knowledge as "intellectual property" in order to open up new profit streams and 2) The watering down and elimination of a conduit for the dissemination of revolutionary political and social views, and black empowerment. (I mean, no one, but no one is doing the kind of think Public Enemy was doing back in the day. And PE would literally sample hundreds of tunes per album... a feat that would be unaffordable today by even the most popular hip-hop star.) The result of all this is that hip-hop has become a particularly lame and soggy form of corporate-pop product. All the newness and excitement, not to mention the cut-and-paste-to-create-something-new, d.i.y. aesthetic has been drained out of it.
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I may for the first time ever watch a show only for when it goes to and comes back from commercial. Is Carson Daly still going to be on after Late Night or are they going to go straight into Poker After Dark now?
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They actually play instruments and do not rely on sampling.
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Garbageman33 -- that actually made me chuckle. It's true. I sometimes fear I really am turning into a grumpy old coot. Kid Z, the government killed hip-hop, huh? Maybe. But all it takes is a few episodes of MTV's Cribs to see that most hip-hop "artists" are laughing all the way to the cemetery. Or crying all the way to the bank. If hip-hop has fallen dead under the guillotine of commoditization, then these "artists" were more than happy to pull the rope themselves. No one put a gun to anyone's head and forced them to sell themselves out for million dollar recording contracts. And you can hardly Fight The Power anymore once you've cashed those checks, moved into a mansion, bought a Bentley, a Jaguar, and a Lamborghini, and brush your diamond encrusted teeth after climing out of a gold-plated bathtub. Hip-hop sold ITSELF out.
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so settle down, newshounds.
Anyways, I've only ever heard the Roots once and it was a great little song called "Love My Family" or something on YO GABBA GABBA. -
He was kind of funny on SNL... but otherwise, there is nothing all that funny about him. Worst of all, he is not personable. He is pretty unlikeable, actually. He will fail... and badly.
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Dec 10, 2008 8:19:09 PM CST
If Mike Myers and Adam Sandler had a severely retarded baby
by victornewman
You would have Jimmy Fallon
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Fallon: Hey, haven't I seen you somewhere before?
LAUGH/APPLAUSE neons flash with fury.
Somebody should ask, "Why is 30 ROCK tanking? Now that the Palin thing is old news, you're invisible. Why? And what about NBC's futile attempts to shove you up the public's butt?"
Fallon, however, will make the reunion even more intolerable by running a bunch of SNL clips and exclaiming "That's when the show was great, huh folks?" Dick. -
Grrrrrrrrrrrrr, yeah!
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so they could remix Yesterday and claim that they wrote it without any first-hand knowledge that John Lennon was a musician.
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was to have them play music going into and coming out of commercials, and when guests come out. In the case of, say, Paul Schaffer's band, almost no vocals are involved. What the hell's a rap group gonna do? Because rap is nothing but vocals and a beat, usually supplied by a machine. And if there's guitars or anything else, they're usually sampled from somewhere else. I agree with whoever above said that being the best rap group really isn't saying much. I'm admittedly a musical snob.
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Didn't you get the memo? Apparently, or so I've been informed by this Talkback, if you don't jack off to The Roots you're a mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging troglodyte. However, to their credit, The Roots are actual musicians who are playing actual instruments. That alone puts them in a class above most other hip-hop and rap artists. You do raise an interesting point, though. The Roots are established recording artists with their own discography. Are they just going to be playing their own original stuff during the commercial breaks and the guest walk-ons, or will they be doing covers also?
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With the western economy falling apart,companys going under,massive debt, soon to be mass unemployment and the uprise of terrorism jimmy fallon and the roots make perfect sense.These are the end times people
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Jimmy Fallon is a complete and utter cunt, delighted to see so many worldwide hold this view.
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