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BOURNE 4 Isn't Really BOURNE But Will Be BOURNE Whether It Wants To Be Or Not!!
Merrick here...
During a CURIOUS CASE OF BENJAMIN BUTTON event, producer Frank Marshall revealed that the BOURNE Powers That Be may be close to zeroing in on a storyline for a proposed continuation of the BOURNE movie franchise.
Seems they now have access to "all" Ludlum story ideas & intend to repurpose one of them into a new BOURNE adventure.
Specifically...
Q: Would you want to do a straight adaptation from one of the novels?
Marshall: Actually, there is. "The Parsifal Mosaic" is one that we like.
"The Parsifal Mosiac," not a "Bourne" adventure as a novel, deals with a U.S. spy who falls in love with another spy who is revealed to be a double agent just before her death. When he retires from the business, though, the spy learns that she may still be alive and sets out to learn the truth.
...says THIS write-up at ComingSoon.
You can find more about PARSIFAL via THIS Wiki entry.
Marshall: Actually, there is. "The Parsifal Mosaic" is one that we like.
"The Parsifal Mosiac," not a "Bourne" adventure as a novel, deals with a U.S. spy who falls in love with another spy who is revealed to be a double agent just before her death. When he retires from the business, though, the spy learns that she may still be alive and sets out to learn the truth.
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Did anyone else think this sounded like Casino Royale?
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I said "was." The bitch is dead.
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Okay, well that clears it up...I guess.
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so was franka potente a secret double agent, then?
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The last film hinted at something there.
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Not really crazy about a Bourne love interest though. Make it a straight up spy/action movie. But give that shakey cam a break!!!
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Isn't this the plot from Casino Royale?...
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Dec 08, 2008 12:48:03 PM CST
SOMEONE HITS BOURNE ON THE HEAD AND HE STARTS OVER AGAIN
by bringingsexyback
Amnesiac Bourne = Deadly Motherfucker
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Sorry Comedian just saw your post
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and he has no idea why he makes the best General Tso's chicken ever. His search for the truth takes him to exotic Asian locales and deadly confrontations with assorted henchmen. Featuring Bourne's first foray into wire-fu fightin'.
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But it would have made a good sequel to Casino Royale.
We had Jason vs. Freddy, Alien vs. Predator, Godzilla vs. King Kong, now I want Bond vs. Bourne! Winner takes on Bauer. -
Dec 08, 2008 12:51:33 PM CST
Who cares?We won't be able to see what's happening anyway.
by derlanghaarige
Shake it, baby!
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Luv aliens & government.
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they're both shaken, not stirred
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I hope they aren't going somewhere stupid with this...Let Marie stay dead..
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The ultimate sequel. John McClane and the JB's (Jason Bourne, James Bond and Jack Bauer) tour the world undercover as a 50's doo wop group, all the while kicking mad spy and terrorist ass. Awesome.
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...fathered by Yawny McYawn, as in more Bourne sequels- yawn! Probably still make a mint though as so popular- I really enjoyed the first one, thought the second was fine but over use of- YES- shakey cam and think the third is one soooo overrated its untrue.
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He forgets, he kills!!!!
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Ugh.
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Just in case anyone is in any doubt Bourne would not stand a chance against Bond in a smackdown. Bond would rip his head off, take a shit in it, put it back on, whack him some more, take his PPK and shove it up Bourne's arse, kick him over, set him on fire, then piss on him. Oh yes, and then fuck's Bourne's Mrs.
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with excessive shakey cam.
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WTF???
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Why not just write an original? Have someone as a villain who Joan Allen and co NEED Bourne to help them capture?
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But Ludlum's writing is truly terrible. I've tried to read several of his books including Bourne, and have been continuously shocked at the juvenile dialogue and cardboard characters. Not to mention the fact that he doesn't seem to have done any research on actual espionage, combat, tactical situations, police/military procedure (unlike say Tom Clancy who usually does impeccable research). I'm sure the books are fun for some people just not my bag.
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My guess is she's coming back to kill Julia Stiles for making moves on her man.
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Now he's a prick assasin again.
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...the one with the Mickey Mouse car. I thought she was the bee's knees.
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Dec 08, 2008 1:35:04 PM CST
...tough to fake being shot and floating in that third world...
by flickapoo
...water though...that shit's the primordial soup. Bacteria city...
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Get it?
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Coz the last Bond sure feels like Bourne.
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And I have to get off my chest, a little late to the game (just saw Quantom last week), the main villian dies offscreen. THE MAIN VILLIAN DIES OFFSCREEN??!! Pardon fucking me??
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I didn't like that they killed her off at the start of TBS, so if they can bring her back it would be good. Sure she seemed pretty dead but if they can bring back Dr Sarah on Prison Break after she had her head sawed off, bringing back Marie should be easy.
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Bourne battles against the monster from those ridiculous Watchers movies. What was that thing called... The Outsider?
I saw the Bourne movies for the first time during Thanksgiving weekend. All 3 back to back. They were pretty good, much better than I expected. -
these pretzels are making me thirsty
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Lola comes back from the grave and must remain excited while she tracks down Statham's character form CRANK who now must remain electrocuted to stay alive.
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Bourne vs. vampires.
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she took a high powered rifle round to the head? Don't get me wrong, I'd be thrilled to see Franke back, but I don't see how they could resurrect her *and* make her a spy without the whole scenario feeling completely contrived and crappy.
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What a great film.
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or swim. do zombies swim?
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as it sure as Hell WASN'T Bond movie....
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It wasn't a Bourne movie.
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Was by far one of my favorite parts of Quantum. First we have that scene with him and Bond and the can of oil. Then we have the idea that QUANTUM can find him in the middle of the desert and put a bullet in his head.
That far-reaching knowledge and ability that resonates with "we have people everywhere" line is one of the chief reasons why I want a sequel. -
This series lost me when they killed her off. The action scenes are fun but she added crucial charm and humanity that was never replaced.
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He goes on a quest to bed her, finds out she is a double agent working for the secret cabal that controls filthy European bedsits and youth hostels.
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Really enjoyed the first three. I'm up for more "Bourne" adventures. They're better than the so-called "Bond" movies as of late.
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It's a cross between Wimbledon and Terminator.... huh?
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Without a doubt, the Bourne movies did something completely amazing - making me give a shit whether Matt Damon lives or dies - so kudos for that.
If they're gonna bring anyone back, then my vote is for Clive Owen as the bespectacled assassin. He had like 5 lines in the whole bastard thing and stole the movie from under the rest of the cast.
'Look what they make you do...sequels'. -
Bourne Harder.
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Dec 08, 2008 3:47:08 PM CST
BOURNE WOULD PUSH BOND'S NOSE TO THE BACK OF HIS SKULL
by bringingsexyback
and fuck the Bond girl. Cuz Matt Damon is a fillin and fuckin machine.
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but fillin will do.
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Jason lost his memory in the river and goes on rampage. I wish he had gone to Jersey though.
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Denny Crane!!!
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All of the DIE HARD sequels were stand alone scripts that had nothing to do with DIE HARD, until they rewrote them, making the main character john mcclane etc etc
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i'm not saying that's a good thing, i'm just saying that's a fact. sometimes it works (diehard3), sometimes it doesnt (diehard4), and sometimes they say "mother falcon".
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Nuff said. Always been like that, always will be.
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Both good. Let's have some more, thank you very much.
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I honestly believe that you have it mixed up, sir. Bond has shown again and again that he is more than willing and able to fuck another dude's chick behind his back.
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Jason takes a job babysitting the Gosselins' 8 kids, and is quickly driven to kill again.
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But Bourne is the tougher hombre. He was engineered in a lab!!!
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I know, too early to tell but double agent stories and agents falling in love. uggh
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He was cool in the first Bourne bit bored of Matt Damon and no Snodgrass!
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The revengining.
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Jason and a bag lady fuck up Joe Pesci and Daniel Stern's acting careers
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His character was the best opponent for Bourne yet.
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Dec 08, 2008 4:25:51 PM CST
Forget Potente, I think it's Julia Stiles they are angling for.
by blackmantis
Bank on it.
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But Bond is made of AWESOME. Michael Bay agrees with me and he's an expert in that field.
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Jason Bourne must dress up as a fat female housekeeper to get close to estranged family.....and kill them.
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marketing hooks.
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Bababababa...bad
Bababababa...bad
Bad to the Bourne. -
and the like..
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Patrick Hernandez does the soundtrack with backup from Madonna.
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It is my favorite Ludlum straight action book. Ludlum actually wrote a comedy, called The Road to Gandolfo, which is my favorite of all his book. The Parsifal Mosaic though, is Ludlum at his action/mystery best. The Materese Circle is a close second in my opinion.
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Tag: Bourne takes Bible-thumping to biblical proportions.
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Killing spree in Hollywood!
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Dec 08, 2008 5:04:33 PM CST
I loved the first three Bourne flicks. A fourth one is a bad id
by orbots commander
I don't think the character can support four movies. It'll be Spider-Man 3 bad.
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Bourne Legacy and . . .
Why don't they do some of Lustbader's Ninja novels? Oh, I know: too complicated. -
Damn You Michael Bay
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sounds boring
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2. Powell's intense, driving score, 3. Bourne fighting with some random, mundane object, 4. a vicious car chase, 5. a great supporting cast, 6. Bourne using on-the-fly cleverness to get his way out of a jam, . . . well, then I'm there in the theater.
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Bourne will fight more CIA types and the plot won't really go anywhere. Besides the first one the next two kind of the same movie. Except one had Russians and one didn't have Russians. Hopefully the third one can toss in a little bit more interesting bad guys. Got kind of tired of a bunch of CIA chumps sitting around looking at computers going"He's in Brussels!"... Because I pretty much guessed where both movies were going and I was right. I hope the expand the universe with the fourth and add something different.
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That's the proper title.
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David Webb is a real guy
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...on an Eyeball Fucking scale? If, say, My Dinner with Andre fucked our eyeballs at a 1, and Avatar will reportedly give our eyeballs a good dicking at a 10, what level of ocular fornication can we expect from a new (Un)Bourne?
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Aren't there 3 more books in the series? I know they weren't written by the same person, but why not try to get the rights to those? Of course, if they already have rights to another story and want to use it, I guess it's cheaper. Though there seemed to be more background story to Bourne and Stiles character in Ultimatum (at least the movie, never read the books). I was hoping to see more of that. But if they're bringing in another love interest, then they'll probably drop her character.
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That sign reads "TOO MUCH SHAKEY CAM" in smaller letters it reads, Matt "giant dome" Damon can't pull of the fighting sequences so we speed the camera up and shake it.
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How about Bourne gets his job back at the CIA, but this time he's reading books. He just reads. Everything. And then I asks his boss if we have plans to invade the Middle East and then he goes out to get a cheesburger and comes back and everybody is FUCKING DEAD! And then his Postman tries to kill him and so does Father Merrin but then Father Merrin lets him live and he kills the other guy instead. Now that's a fucking movie.
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Good call - if ever there was a reason to re-release (dare not remake) Three Days of the Condor, it's now, during the energy/financial crises.
"When people are going hungry, they won't care how you do it, they just want you to get it for them!" -
Just try and fuck Bourne in the ass. Just try.
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...in a novel that's not Bourne and sounds like Bond but one that will be Bourne.
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You know this to be true...
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KNOCK OFF WITH THE SHAKEY-CAM ALREADY! GAH!!! Can't these people come up with a better vehicle for conveying intensity?
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This happened with Jack and Irina on Alias. Of course, the novel came first, but just sayin...
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They should have Bourne fight the New Karate Kid Jaden Smith in HOng Kong Fooey slapstick style, it could happen...........
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I actually love the Bourne series, but hope they finally give Shakey Cam the rest it so deserves. Maybe they'll have a fight in low light and a malfunctioning lightbulb creating a strobe effect.
You'd get some great press with all the epilepsy warnings.
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Me love you long time.
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Every film its all about dragging out his past history even when its flimsy as hell. That said, I frakking love the Bourne movies. Have all 3 in HDDVD! Christ.
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Oh man, I'm guessing that's been done before, but I'd never seen it, and THAT, my friend, was funny. Bravo!
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Two sequels with one massive shaky cam.
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in a room without a window.
Bourne always sets up on the roof of a building across the street.
Maybe they could get a counter-sniper to put a .50-cal slug through Bourne's skull.
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Not at all, things like character names and the idea of amnesia yes but other than that they're completely different.
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lol couldn't resist.
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Dec 08, 2008 10:59:09 PM CST
No!! Don't do it: Mssrs Marshall, Greengrass and Damon!
by maxthesilent
Don't just go digging for stories purely because the other movies made money. BOURNE ULTIMATUM was a stunning end to the series, and to bring in another 'love interest' for the sake of another money-grubbing sequel is a disgrace. The series was so amazing because Jason Bourne was truly, deeply in love with Marie, and that relationship informed everything that happened.
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Duhh nehh nehh neh neh.
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Bourne: "We're going to war."
Defense Secretary: "The armed forces are not prepared for a conflict of this magnitude sir!"
Bourne: "No need. I'm going in alone."
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I guess I never picked up on it...
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Lots of action and liberal use of the word 'fuck'.
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Dec 09, 2008 12:18:05 AM CST
the Bourne theme is crickets in the audience.....
by dannyglovers_dickblood
....following every emotional moment.
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Neither the 2nd nor 3rd film where even slightly related to the storylines of the books they took their names from. So why would anyone worry about source material.
At any rate I won't be seeing another Bourne film. The last two physically gave me headaches trying to watch them. I have no intention of going through that yet again. -
Every damn spy movie will BE a Bourne movie. Not that I'm complaining.
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That's what I thought...
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...bunch of sellouts. Honestly why couldn't they leave it alone with the third one? I remember Damon's stupid ass slamming any notions of a 4th film being made. Damon gotta eat???
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shakycam bakery fights.
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CASINO ROYAL CASINO ROYAL CASINO ROYAL CASINO ROYAL CASINO ROYAL CASINO ROYAL CASINO ROYAL CASINO ROYAL CASINO ROYAL CASINO ROYAL CASINO ROYAL CASINO ROYAL CASINO ROYAL CASINO ROYAL CASINO ROYAL CASINO ROYAL CASINO ROYAL...
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Bond vs Bourne crossover movie. It's going to happen, because Hollywood sucks like that.
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He (it?) would eat him with one bite. It would be over faster than Thomas Jane VS. Titus Pullo.
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She's been hiding out as an Armenian gangster in the Farmington district of LA.
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Just as I said on ComingSoon, you're all misreading the fucking plot. The plot is NOT about how she's a double agent, but how he finds out years after her death, after his "retirement", that she is alive and he tries to track her down to find out what happened. That means the movie would be sort of like a chase, as he follows the clues to figure out where she is hiding, and pieces her story together.
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Damn them to hell!!!
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you're already and ex-spy on the run from your government. But whatever. I think it's pretty cool they're bringing Bourne back. It might be kind of a waste though if someday they're looking to make a totally new franchise but all the Ludlum ideas are used up from the non-Bourne stories having been twisted into Bourne stories. Daniel Craig sucks btw.
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Pam Landy (On Cell): "Take the shot!"
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I give him that.
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And so the world turns ever onwards
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...or not
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...with Bruce Campbell and ninjas
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Best song ever! They really SHOULD have used it as the theme song to Quantum. That Alan Keyes/Jack Black song was terrible!
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Or LaDamian Tomlinson. Or Plaxico Burress.
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Then they could really make it work. Or worse. I am not sure which. Quantum was somewhat miserable. It should've been called Quantum of Misery.
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Dec 09, 2008 12:52:43 PM CST
How hilarious! Make a crossover film between Bourne and Bond!
by snake foreskin
They have the same initials. It could be lots of hijinks based on mistaken identity.
You see, the bad guys (SMERSH/CIA) find charred remains and cufflinks that simply say "JB". They don't know if they got Bond or Bourne.
And Vesper could be the not-so-long-dead spy who isn't really dead. Or maybe it could come out that Franka "Run Lola Run" Potente's Marie character isn't really dead.
Or both of them are still alive and enjoying a lesbian relationship in an apartment building in New York City that is actually a gateway to H-E-Double-Toothpicks.
I like where this story is going. I need to submit my version to Matt Damon and Daniel Craig. I'll get right on it. -
has always been overhyped. they're solid films, but nothing special like everyone makes them out to be.
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Bourne riffs on Bond, and then Bond riffs on Bourne, and now Bourne riffs on Bond right back....
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...if they want to continue with the Bourne series so bad how about ACTUALLY MAKING THE FUCKING BOURNE SERIES?
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This summer.
Bond.
Bourne.
Boners.
This summer, your martini will be shakeycammed, not stirred. -
that tile alone was worth checking into this talkback
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...but after reading the Wiki entry, it seems as if Parsifal Mosaic is more of a Cold-War thriller in the tradition of pre-Craig Bond stories than something that would have Jason Bourne in it. Interesting idea, but it would take a lot of stretching to work Bourne & Friends into the plot, I think. I'm also not thrilled with the notion that Marie could be magically resurrected and revealed as a spy herself, since one of my favorite things about the first two Bourne films was his attempt to transition back to the real world where everyone ISN'T a CIA operative or assassin or whatever. Probably that is why he chooses to retire in a relatively obscure place like Goa, so he can try to escape that world. Unfortunately, he doesn't succeed, and that's where the last 1.75 films come into play.
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while bourne runs around with a gun. oh, you say it's not about a bourne? even better.
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She was a fembot, sadly. We knew it all along...
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