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‘I’m Not At Liberty To Divulge The Identity Of My Client!!’ Watch Two Cool Minutes of The LOST Season Premiere Now!!
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The two-hour season premiere airs Jan. 21 on ABC.
Episode titles for the first six hours:
5.1 “Because You Left”
5.2 “The Lie”
5.3 “Jughead”
5.4 “The Little Prince”
5.5 “This Place Is Death”
5.6 “The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham”
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Awesome stuff, though.
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god tv is terrible right now. i need this show back.....whose the client? Widmore? most obvious guess i suppose.
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is the black guy who's also on JJ Abram's other show, Fringe. I have been watching Lost non-stop to re-catch up before January 21st and I am shitting my pants with glee.
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Fuck Michael is a fag
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Yes.
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you all were thinking the same thing LOL
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is it just me or is kate's face a more pointier than normal?
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...that, maybe, they're planning to answer a lot of the questions that've previously been raised. To the point; why haven't more people questioned Kate's maternity of Aaron? I'm looking forward to this show coming back late next month...
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I'm holding out hope that somehow Harry manages to get JJ Abrams to come to BNAT X... with a print of Star Trek in one hand, and the LOST Season 5 premiere in the other.Oh, how sweet that would be.
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Dec 02, 2008 8:37:33 PM CST
So that's what happened to Angela's dad after the divorce.
by potsmokinalien
Hope you and Hallie are happy together, Graham. Guess you needed to become an evil lawyer in order to keep the restaurant afloat since the stock market crash though.
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Widmore, Ben, or any other "evil" character is just too spot on. Jack's doing it because she won't let him see Aaron--we caught that much last season--OR it's somehow a ploy to get them to come back to the island with him.
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cannot wait! and the life and death of Jeremy Bentham!!! Locke is my fave. can't wait for that one to air. as long as its not like the pot farming flashback,that one was kinda lamers. peace be to all who seek it. namaste
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Thank you for the link.
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Why would Jack do that?
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*sigh* LOST is simply the best thing on television.
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I agree 100% with you. That ep is so far my second most anticipated after the season opener. I also agree that the pot farm flashback was extremely lame, and it didn't seem like a scenario that Locke's character would fit in.
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ep. 3 i say will be aaron-centric. jughead = weird-looking kid = turnip head
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as we heard ben say, everyone who left needs to go back. jack needs kate. where can kate run away to but the island? she's an internationally recognizable celebrity, she'll be easily found anywhere else
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Remember she contacted Widmore, probably tipped him off.
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...from full-on silly. That being said, I will still be there on premier night.
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than anything in Season 3 of Heroes.
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You don't get to like Lost. So say we all.
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I have been enjoying Fringe a great deal during the hiatus. Walter is a brilliant character and definitely in ranks with Ben for entertainment value, but, dang, I really needs me my LOST!!!!!!
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Ah snap!
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Anyone got a link that works?
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How is it two steps away from full-on silly?I'm not trying to disrespect, I'm just curious why you think that. I can name at least a handful of shows that are much "sillier" than LOST.Oh, and it's spelled "premiere" unless you plan on watching it with someone like François Fillon or Silvio Berlusconi, as they are the premiers of France and Italy, respectively.Just sayin'.
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Dec 02, 2008 10:51:41 PM CST
You could throw a dart at just about any two minutes of this sho
by ravetin
...and get a clip that makes me hard for six hours.
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Judging by the handle "Mr. Nice Gaius," I'm guessing there's a little bit of franchise provincialism going on...
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I do plan on watching it with both François Fillon AND Silvio Berlusconi. Those guys are total tramps!!!Just sayin'.
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...to Kate, if you know what I mean.
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Then noticed its premiering (spelling ok Bob ?) when the wife and I fly out for our honeymoon.
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than heroes....my first shit in the morning is better than heroes...now if you say that lost is better than my early morning dump...then i might argue with you
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Ha! Kudos.
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and give her a DNA sample to use.
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Funny shit, man.
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You got it! :) Nice job.
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Lost and BSG and 24 January is sooo far away!
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a month...and all 3 of my seasons are at friends house...an hour away...where they have been getting others addicted to LostI needs my LOST
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and yes, Aaron has consistently been looking a little... erm... what were those guys that did strange things to Captan Pike in Star Trek - you know, the ones with the ENORMOUS HEADS
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Merely a coincidence or purposely cast that way? Lost is good, but ABC still deserves a big eff-you for canceling Daisies.
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Two minutes of new Lost? There was at least twenty seconds of splashy CGI water and ABC chest-pounding there, cutting into our Lost time. I demand twenty extra seconds of Lost immediately. Have these people met a Lost fan? Do they know how serious we are about this?
I'm betting Widmore, but what about if someone connected to Claire has put two and two together? What about Aaron's jackass dad? Maybe her mom woke up? On the season 4 DVD there's that Loose Change-style documentary making a big deal about Claire being pregnant.
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but knowing Lost could be Locke or Ben in terms of manipulating Kate to get them back to the island.
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gimme Lost now! And Alan Dale has the best agent on the planet. That fucker is on EVERYTHING!
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Good work. We need a bit of Jim Robinson every now and then.
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And just release the boxed sets all in one go. I hate waiting for weekly shows. And either my memory is failing me or I watch too much TV as I can barely remember what happened in the last episode. I never thought I would see the day when I needed those "previously on...." thingys at the start of each ep. Those days have arrived.Does anyone have a link that works?
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..he knows Kate's not Aaron's real mother and a blood test will prove that. A blood test will also prove that Jack is Aaron's uncle, thus giving him custody and the ability to take him back to the island.
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"If we go fluttering about down there, they may reach up and swat this ship as if it were a fly..."
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Interesting episode title so early on. It doesn't necessarily mean that it's going to show you how he died at this point, but I figured that it would echo the format of season 4, which took the twist at the end of 3 and spent the whole time explaining it.If they explain the season 4 twist this early, it would totally catch me offguard. And I like when they do that to me. I like it a lot.
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...exactly.
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How much food does she give to that kid?! There were like two huge sausages, a rasher of bacon and a whole fuckin' omlette on that plate! He's like three years old! Is this normal in America? Maybe I'm really from a third world country after all.Also not sure about a Kate-centric episode as a premier (if they're keeping with the single-character focused approach), but I'll reserve judgement.
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i didn't realize that this was still on the air....'cept on G4,SciFI snd weekend syndication.....
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For me to dust off season 4 and watch those episodes for the rest of December. Can't wait.
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Not because of the clip - that was great. But the way people were interpreting it was scary.
"We have to go back Kate."
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With the career change, maybe he hooked up with Hallie Lowenthal.
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I was worried at first.
Not because of the clip - that was great. But the way people were interpreting it was scary.
Then someone mentioned Widmore. Someone else mentioned Ben or Locke manipulating things. Some mentioned Jack and Arron having the same bloodline.
"We have to go back, Kate>"
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Where else can you get idiotic comments like 'that clip is better than anything in Heroes S3.' Putting aside the hatred for Heroes, really? REALLY?
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The last of the Oceanic 6 to lose the happiness they gained after leaving the Island. Jack got Kate, lost her. Sayid got Nadia, lost her. Hurley got his sanity back, lost it. Sun.. well, I suppose she lost her husband first and then had her baby, but she's definitely not happy. And now Kate, who won her freedom through this child, is now on the run again BECAUSE of the child. Tiger don't change her stripes. I've said it before and I'll say it again, the Lost guys sure as shit know exactly what they're doing. A few missteps here and there, but the train is still on the track. On the other hand, Heroes has switched stations 8 times already this year. We were originally headed for Cleveland and now we're in Tijuana. How the fuck did that happen?
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Get some sun Fatty!
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you're going to show two minutes, and you HAVE to go and show Kate's two minutes!? WTF!! She's cute, but boring. At least it explains why she goes back, but otherwise seeing her pack up doesn't really make this a great clip, does it? Or maybe I'm just biased because there are so many much more interesting characters in there. Oh well.
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Prove it lady. That kid don't nuthin' like you.
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...it was like two minutes of "All My Children", complete with the overblown music cues. Christ, if that's all they've got to entice us for the coming season we're in more trouble than I thought.
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...Except maybe Adrian Pasdar. And he only had two lines in a 2 minute clip! Seriously though any excuse to rip on the horror that is Heroes is a good one. 2 minutes of lost is as good a reason as any.
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yeah, it'll take the whole season for me to concede i like it again. i'll continue to like LOST until the glib unsatisfying conclusion to the next episode. or until JACK starts acting again. whichever comes soonest. Not his fault. they just really can't write that character, plus he's a potato.
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Acts better than anyone on Heroes.
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it was Ben.. nothing else but having to flee would get Kate to agree to go back to the Island.
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I like how you position yourself as intellectually and morally superior than the rest of us idiots to be able to see through the "trivia" to the true awfulness of this tripe, yet you still absorb every piece of "Lost"-related media that comes down the pike, and then talk about it for days. So who's the real sucker? You practically make it your job to hate this show; don't you have anything better to do with your valuable time than make yourself and everybody else miserable?
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For reasons already stated.
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the dude behind the lawyer wasn't a lawyer. He obviously think's he's the father of Claire's baby, sent by Claire's mother.
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. . . they can never go even one episode without a tense, all-critical conversation that happens at gun-point for some inexplicable reason. Every episode, we get the announcement, typically on the damned beach, that one of the main gang is going to trek out across the island and get some magical gewgaw located at the opposite end of this *boogena-boogena* mystery land. The announcement is made haughtily and comes out of nowhere. There is an outcry amongst the groundlings and second-tier types, a modicum of opposition and then 2 or 3 "red-shirt" also-rans join the inevitable caravan trek across the same fricken' 10' x 10' area of jungle-glade-stream. Eventually, we get close-ups of the various trekkers, all sweaty and pensive. Then suddenly, again from nowhere, a weapon is pulled, people are backed against the wilderness and the clipped, half-conversation starts. Someone has some critical piece of information and the conversation always creeps right to edge of relevance and then *whiz-bang* the gun goes off, the smoke demon blurps in to distract, or something *boogena-boogena* (capital "U") Unexpected happens. We never get the revelation. We never get the information. One giant continuing tease. Weapons change hands (or more frequently are clumsily dropped), someone gets tied up. The sweaty annoying bug-eyed one acts petulant (Jack, Ben, Locke - take your pick). Wash, rinse, fucking repeat. Every goddamned episode. And last season was probably the absolute worst offender with characters playing "ring-around-the-Island" practically 2-3 times an episode. Plus, amplifying the general air of douchy-ness will be the high-strung, elaborately constructed theories of the faithful not 10 seconds after each and every re-hashed jungle trek has aired. They always have it all figured out and have this burning, unquenchable, orgiastic desire to race to the interweb to vomit forth their tin-foil hat theories on the how's and why's of this patchwork, made-up-on-the-fly total mess of a series. For a fan of zero-budget grindhouse fare, "Lost" is a weekly treasure trove of unhinged hilarity. I can't stop watching because the heckling opportunities are so very rich and so very frequent. Watch now as the faithful bark and foam at the mouth to defend this schlocky piece of shit. It's inevitable, right along with the mush-mouthed indignation of: "if you hate it so much, why don't you just change the channel?" Always, always happens. You could practically keep time to this shit.
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...the kid would get a bowl of Froot Loops and get plopped down in front of the TV to watch Sesame Street. But as breakfasts go, what's up with that English "fry-up" deal? Canadian bacon, sausages, tomatoes all fried in the same pan & served with blood sausage, baked beans (???) and toast? I know it's not as popular as in the old days, but still... why aren't British people having coronaries by the busload?
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That clip is better than anything in series 2 AND 3 of Heroes. Yes, really.
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Didn't bother to read your whole shitty post, there was no need. Predictable shit as usual from a hater. You could practically keep time to this shit.
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And I used to love that show.
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People ask you why you watch a show you hate? Holy shit, how utterly 'mush-mouthed.'
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That kind of did our work for us, gruntybear.
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Of course, Lost is nothing like "zero-budget grindhouse fare," aesthetically or in terms of narrative structure (and arguably in quality), but let's not let logic get in the way of a good non-conformist rant.
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You watch it to make fun of it and the people who watch it.
Why do you do that?
To make yourself feel better about you and where you are in life, maybe mommy and daddy didn't hug you enough, maybe you never had a girlfriend, whatever it is, you look in the mirror and see something awful, disgusting, something you want to change but can't, and you hate it.
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I'm in there. Fairly frequently. Because I love it. I think you misinterpreted my post. I'm saying exactly what you're saying. Grunty saying that he's a fan of "zero-budget grindhouse fare" makes all the argument against his rant that any of us need. If that's his taste, then of course he doesn't like Lost. And there's no need for us to argue it with him.
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LOL times 5,000,000. I like this show though, can't believe it pisses you off so much.
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Perhaps the episode "The Life & Death of Jeremy Bentham" will be about some dude named Jeremy Bentham whom Locke assumes the identity of to do his work in the off-island world? Perhaps by killing him? (Or, as his way seems to be, dicklessly getting someone else to kill him?)And that would make it so "How'd Locke die" would still be a question that could last through the entire season. I'd rather find out sooner than later though.
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Revelatory? No. But this clip is a nice taste of the stakes in season 5. It also let's us know that the Kate-Aaron paradox is soon to be revealed. My guess? Ben is the client who forces Kate's hand to get her to run right back to the island. Season 5 I believe will knock us on our asses. This clip does not.
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the shows have NOTHING in common in any shape or form. where, how and more importantly why has a "lost vs. heroes" thing popped up? did they originally air against each other or something?
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Awesome scene. Kate is prepared. Always ready to make a quick getaway. LOL. Let me just get this cash taped to the top of the wardrobe, pull out the 9 mm, pack up the clothes, and grab the rugrat and we're off.
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Dec 03, 2008 12:09:18 PM CST
Yes, why does Heroes get to stand against Lost in Comparisons?
by adrian marcato
To paraphrase Jules Winfield, "They ain't even the same league, they ain't even the same fucking sport..." Heroes is seriously to me, a big budgeted outing of Smallville, just too much going on, and very little focus. Lost is as tight as a drum in character development, tension, action, drama, plot, meta cultural references, etc. Heroes is a blatant attempt to cash in on the superhero trend, with really no idea where to go. Plus is it just me, or does that show have the look of a WB drama, like say, smallville? The cinematography is horrible, and the writing, and more notably the direction, is all lazy. Not a fan.
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It's been a debate ever since some random douche in TB declared Heroes was better than Lost. This was way back in S1 of Heroes when Lost was struggling a bit and it remained to be seen what day Lost would return on after its S3 hiatus after the first 6 episodes that season. They could have been on at the same time.
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Just be on the run with the kid. Fantastic. Great mother right there lemme tell ya.
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Better to be on the run than let Widmore or whoever get his hands on Aaron. If it is menacing forces that is. If this turns out to simply be Claire's mom wanting her grandson that's a tad anti-climatic.
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They're almost as much fun as the show
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...what the hell is that supposed to mean? Get over it.
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Just seeing as you are a right-wing goon and all I just prefer that we not like the same things. That's all.
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So you are bigotted against anyone who disagrees with your warped, far-left social views? Get a life, you second-rate, retarded asshole. But what should we expect from someone as extreme as you? Keep humping Obama...and don't complain in four years about how he didn't fulfill all of his fuzzy promises. I suppose that you will continue to spew your HATE for anyone you disagree with as long as you disagree with them. Me? I will continue to live like an American.
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...this one is easier than you think. It's probably Aaron's grandmother who figured out that he might be her grandson at Claire's funeral. $10 on this bet.
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I have a feeling that it is simply Widmore who is behind this. However, I seriously doubt that this is a legitimate lawsuit (or legitimate papers). Rather, Widmore is looking to do what he can to find the island. If Ben knows that all of the Oceanic 6 must work together to get back...Widmore knows it too! Just a thought...but Widmore might actually be behind the original crash of Oceanic Flight 815! Remember, they were 1000 miles off course BEFORE something went wrong and the plane broke apart.
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But is it possible that Jack's dad is presently alive on the island...and the body that Jack saw in the morgue was actually from the future? Strange...but it might explain a lot.
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I rest my case. Far-left social views? You don't even know my views you little shitfaced prick. Are you judging that by my support of Obama, the guy who just put together a center-right Cabinet? Obama may not fulfill all his promises but at least he can slow down the gushing wound we call a country right now. Go jerk off to the Factor numbnuts.
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This two-minute clip got me totally excited for LOST season 5, whereas **ACTUAL** season 3 episodes of HEROES made me less excited for any more of it. I keep DVRing the episodes, but never seem to find time to watch them. There's just no desire left in me.
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You really are an angry little shit, aren't you? You spew your HATRED first...and then get upset when someone throws your shit back at you. Get an education, little dick. *sniff sniff* What's that smell? Oh, its just the SHIT that is coming out of HoboCode's intolerant little mouth!
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The real guy was fascinating. He was the first to come up with the idea of a Panopticon. A prison in which no privacy exists at any angle. (see:Singapore) (also see:The Island) His head was preserved behind glass at University College London attached to a fake body. Now, however, his head is replaced by a wax copy due to repeated theft. (does Locke really die??) I've always though of Bentham's ideas as one of the best examples of "good intentions" at the sacrifice of individual freedom and justice. Perhaps the first "it takes a village" liberal. Commonly categorized as classically liberal, but more modern considering what the common example is presently. (to be precise, I consider myself a classic liberal rather than modern, but would differ with Bentham vigorously in a modern context) I think if the man could see some of the present day effects of his ideas, he would re-evaluate.
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You started it...by commenting on my love for LOST. Just take a chill pill, and relax your hatred for a bit, okay dude? You don't have to agree with me, but you don't have to publicly hate or vilify me either simply because you disagree with me politically. I don't think that you have a monopoly on truth, you know. Relax...and let's focus on LOST.
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Damn right I'm intolerant. Intolerant of fuckheads like you who have run the country into the shitter. FUCK off.
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...after the Season 1 finale. I felt so let down! I had invested quite a bit of time and effort into the show. I haven't watced it since (well, I did try to watch one episode last season). Is it even worth watching anymore?
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How does a paternity test on Aaron help Widmore find the island? It doesn't, or if it does somehow, the explanation is long and complex. That's not like Lost. So are you taking my $10 bet now or what?
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You really are a mean little shit. Could you stop talking political bigotry right now? This is about LOST...not you and your particular social ideology. Jeez...can we just talk about LOST? You can go FUCK OFF if you can't, k?
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Yeah, that is perplexing. I couldn't take your bet...because you might be right! However, Widmore might want the blood test just to see if Kate is telling the truth about the island. Or it might be his way of telling her, "I know who you are and where you were." Then again, it could even be a way for Ben to get Kate to cooperate. We'll see...
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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RrObyQ3XzcY/STbJodHNbSI/AAAAAAAAsPU/-2qdHHPLNEQ/s1600-h/081203064013296352.jpg ...or... http ://3.bp.blogspot.com / _RrObyQ3XzcY / STbJodHNbSI/AAAAAAAAsPU/-2qdHHPLNEQ/s1600-h/081203064013296352.jpg Remember to delete the spaces.
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darkufo dot blogspot dot com -- and view the photos for yourself!
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about ur theory regarding Jacks Dad. Its interesting, but im beginning to believe that"certain" people, when they die, get to "live" on the island forever. It would explain claire,(whom everyone assumes is dead.), Richard, and why he hasn't aged since he was at Locke's house(cue new episode in which alpert gets in a fatal car accident after leaving the house) and Jacks dad. Doesn't really explain the empty coffin however.
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OR...you can use a TinyUrl and save everyone the headache of space deletion... like this:http://tinyurl.com/6myf6l
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Never mind. At least it's smaller! :)
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but, whatever.
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Actually your link still works with the space. Odd.
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But, yeah, totally works.
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Never actually used Tinyurl before...but I will from now on!
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He just wants everyone to talk about him in what he assumes will be another site busting epic talkback thread. He presumes that the best way to become the focal point is to find something negative to say about what the overwhelming majority of people will like. In essence, he's the fat kid on the playground that always smells like poop and candy, and goes around farting in the middle of a square-four game, kicking over sand castles in the sand pit, and then standing directly in front of the swings saying, "im allowed to stand here Im allowed to stand here"
basically, he's a socially mal-adjusted fat kid who acts out in front of a group of people because he's so convinced that they will reject him anyway, that by giving them a GOOD REASON to reject him, he can protect is tender and so very sensitive little ego. "They didn't reject ME, they rejected what I DID!"
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your theory also doesn't explain how Albert showed up with items collected from Locke's future. If he simply was a guy who died and whose ghost was allowed to live on fantasy island, how did he get ahold of those future-objects? The decor of The Village explains it all - the island doesn't move from its geographical position. It moves in time. All the houses in The Village looked like late 80's to early 90's decor except for Ben's house - he has an old 70's television. An old 33.5 rpm record player. His clothes are tragically 70's. Its done to suggest that while they're all on this island together, they're not all from the same time period. When Juliette was recruited, Richard was the same visual age as when he visited John.
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did not Ben tell Jack in the funeral parlor that he had a plan on how to get Kate back to the island?...Kate has a good life..money..Aaron...a nice house..and has ten years of probation to serve were she can't leave the state,she's got no incentive to up sticks and go anywhere, so Ben came up with the plan to uncover the lie of Aaron being Kate's kid, knowing that would scare Kate enough to leave..Jack will then convince her and Aaron to return..
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Ben sent them to scare Kate into wanting to go back to the Island.
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Interesting. However, does anyone remember the episode in which we first saw Richard Alpert? He was trying to recruit Juliet. Do you remember what he asked her in the interview? Richard asked Juliet to look at a series of x-rays. He asked her to describe what she saw. Juliet said, "From the deteriating condition of the womb, I would say that this is a woman in her 70s or 80s." Richard asked, "What would you say if I told you that this is an x-ray for a 25 year old woman?" This was extraordinary -- because it predates any of the references to the inability for childbearing on the island! Most of us saw it...and didn't think much of it. However, I think that it was a clue to the direction of the show -- way back in early Season 3. I have a gut feeling that Juliet's procedure didn't "cure" her sister's infertility. Rather, I think that Richard had traveled through time...to a point where such a cure for infertility had already been discovered. Richard is, as we know, a time-traveler. Just HOW and WHY is the question. Also...remember in Season 1 when Locke emphasized that each of the survivors had been CHOSEN to be on that plane (Oceanic 815)? I think that this is more important now that we see the various "connections" in the show. I was watching the Season 1 finale the other day. Ana Lucia was asking Jack questions in the airport bar (like, "How did your dad die?"). Ben told Juliet that the children (survivors of the crash) were ON THE LIST. I have a sneaking suspicion that the time travelers know who is important in this epic battle between Benjamin Linus and Charles Widmore. Why couldn't Michael kill himself? I think that it was less about "fate" and more that the time travelers prevented his death with each suicide attempt. Desmond's guide during his first time-traveling event seemed to indicate a belief that you can't prevent the future from happening. I think that the entire series will be about how you CAN prevent the future from taking place. Perhaps these LOSTies will change a bleak and deadly future? Remember, Ben and Co. are, after all, "the good guys."
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...was the meeting between Ben and Widmore in Widmore's bedroom. Widmore said, "I know who you are. I know WHAT you are." He asked Ben, "Are you here to kill me?" Ben replies, "You know that I can't do that." There is something there that we just don't grasp yet, methinks.Anyway...I can't wait until January!
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Its Widmore trying to get Kate to return to the island so that he can follow her and find it?
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I'm getting on in years and the memory's going. How were we to know that the objects Albert displayed to young Locke were actually possessions of "future Locke"?
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As soon as I saw him I thought the same, where has he been as can honestly say have never noticed him in anything since his MSCL days. Oh and its been a long wait just hope its been worth it.
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so they get Kait to run.... back to the island!!!
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...how it's 'obvious' to so many of us that the client is someone different.
As I watched, it was 'obvious' to me that it was Jack; the last time we saw him, Ben told him that he had to gather up ALL of the Oceanic 6 and return them to the island. Which would include Aaron, who Kate would never ever let go if she had her way.
How could a DNA test benefit anyone but Jack? Proving that Aaron isn't Kate's biological son won't do anyone any good but Jack, who IS biologically related, being Claire's half brother.
In response to those above who complain about Lost: I might watch each episode the first time eager for clues about the Big Mysteries--and I do acknowledge that some of their unnecessarily repetitive/suspenseful plot contrivances are a bit silly--but one thing that makes the show stick out as legitimately high quality to me is the characterization. So many of these characters are interesting, flawed, three-dimensional, funny, etc, and I think Lost does this better than just about any other show. The plot and their actions really do spring from their characters--Jack has to be the hero, won't give up, sacrifices himself; Locke is spiritual and seeks a purpose for everything to the point where he lets himself get hurt and used; Kate is both strong and weak at the same time, can face difficult situations but runs away from emotional connections; Sayid is efficient and calculating but deeply loyal and committed, and so on. This is supported by generally top shelf acting as well. You can root for pretty much all of them, but they are all flawed and imperfect; none is 'good' or 'evil' without qualification, and yet one of the show's big themes is good vs. evil (often represented as black vs. white).
It's that stuff that makes me put Lost in a higher category than other shows. Of course you can make fun of some of the production details and formulas--but what network drama is that not true of?
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I dunno if it's just network dramas you're talking about, but dude:"So many of these characters are interesting, flawed, three-dimensional, funny, etc, and I think Lost does this better than just about any other show."If that's true, then I got a pretty long list for ya if you're looking for shows with more nuanced, complex, flawed characters than Lost has. it starts with The Wire, and it ends with, I dunno man, the fuckin X-Files. I watch this shit cause I'm hooked, and Sawyer is the fucking man. But his character is all over the fucking map, just like three quarters of the characters on the show. If it weren't for the plot twists I'd have lost interest somewhere back in season 3.Just to be clear, though, Sawyer's the fucking man.
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Dec 03, 2008 10:21:23 PM CST
Lost Executive Producers Actually Answer Some Questions!
by 4we8have15to16go23back42
http://lostroom23.blogspot.com/
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...but Libby's story done? What the fucking fuckity fuck?!
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If so it makes me angry. Why was she in Hurleys hospital?
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I mean seriously. That's so Jacktastic.
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The fact you try to insult me and ascribe personality traits I'm not exhibiting (morally superior? Grow up) yet do nothing to refute my opinion makes me suspect that the reason I get under your skin isn't because of my supposed pretension but because you suspect I might have a point....and I must say, for someone who hates me so much you do seem to have read everthing I've written; somewhat the same relationship I have with "Lost", hmmm....
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And the fact that you didn't answer my question makes me suspect you don't have a good one. Whenever I read something you write it's by accident, because I'm trying to read about a show that I happen to enjoy. It's not like I have an RSS feed to "pdorwick.blogspot.com." And I've read enough of it to know that there's nothing "supposed" about your pretension.
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...and you didn't ask any questions. I assumed your insults were rhetorical and therefore didn't warrant or deserve a response. If you want to be an adult, ask me some intelligent questions about the show, don't strike out like a petulant child.
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...my questions weren't rhetorical. And now who's ascribing motivations and insults to whom? Anyway, if you watch the show and hate it I don't really care, I mean I *do* care, but that's your prerogative. I just don't understand what's in it for you. So I got angry enough to finally respond to you not because I "suspect you're right," but because I feel like you're doing it because you're trolling. I mean as far as I can tell you don't like anything about this show. So are you just hoping it gets good, or what?
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...or they couldn't get Cyntia Watros to come back and reprise her role. It would so piss me off if Libby's arc was a loose end.
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...I don't think it's out of the question to think he means her story's over *as of where they are in writing/filming season 5.*
Not that I particularly care about Libby, but "leapfrogging" a twist ending like the one in "Dave" is so... Kringesque. Also, fuck Heroes. -
We may never get a full back story on Libby but they have to explain her dead husband and how she happened to be in the same coffee shop as Desmond while he happened to need a sailboat. People just don't give away a sailboat.
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... and I've come to the conclusion that no matter what-- none of us are going to be happy with the ending. The writers have put themselves in such a corner there's absolutely no way they can live up to the expectations they have built. There's WAY too many questions that need to be answered in order for any conclusion to be satisfactory amongst fans, fanatics, casual watchers, etc. Given the end date, it's IMPOSSIBLE for every question to be answered without the series going to complete shit.
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