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Moriarty Has Seen THE CURIOUS CASE OF BENJAMIN BUTTON!!

Published at: Dec. 7, 2008, 6:28 p.m. CST

Hey, everyone. “Moriarty” here. Nothing lasts. A simple truth, but one that I think most of us do our best to keep at bay most of the time. We struggle to achieve various goals and joys in our lives, and when they finally arrive, when we finally accomplish them, we want them to endure. We want to maintain our state of bliss as long as we can. But in the back of our minds, we always know that there is no such thing as permanence. There is no such thing, for people, as forever. We are impermanent by design. We are always racing the clock. We can fight as much as we want, but the truth remains: nothing lasts. THE CURIOUS CASE OF BENJAMIN BUTTON is one of the most piercing, beautiful, eccentric studio movies in recent memory, an exquisitely crafted film about memory, love, opportunity, and the passage of time. Technical wizardry and emotional delicacy combine to create an experience that is, for lack of a better word, magic. Set during the landfall of Hurricane Katrina, BUTTON tells an epic-scale story that is actually an intimate emotional journey, unusual and unlike any other film I can name. And, yes, that includes FORREST GUMP. Thanks to the involvement of Oscar-winning screenwriter Eric Roth, you will hear a lot of comparisons to GUMP, but don’t believe it. This is the anti-GUMP, and therein likes the darkness that I think director David Fincher must have found so appealing. Whatever the attraction was, this director, so renowned for his cold, clinical eye and his detached intellectual cool, has responded to this material in the only way he could: with the whole of his previously only-rumored heart. It’s a very simple concept, and if you’ve ever read the short story by F. Scott Fitzgerald, there’s not a lot to it. It’s very simply a doodle about a baby born as an old man who lives his whole life in reverse. There’s a marriage in there, but it’s not really played as a love story, and there’s no real weight to anything that happens in the story. It’s more like Fitzgerald was intrigued and wanted to play with the idea a bit. In the film, things are different from the very start. Whereas Fitzgerald imagined Benjamin being born as an actual 80 year old man, full-sized and able to speak right away, the film takes a stranger approach. Benjamin is a baby, but his body shows all the wear and tear of advanced age, including arthritis, cataracts, and a completely lack of elasticity to the skin. He’s got a disturbing little-old-man face, but he’s very much a baby in every other way. Robin Swicord, the original screenwriter on the film, and Eric Roth have both worked hard to find a way to ground this fantastic idea and make it play as something approaching a reality we recognize. As a result, in the film, Benjamin’s external age and his internal age are completely at odds, while in the short story, they were in synch. The moment Benjamin’s father Thomas (Jason Flemyng) sees the baby, he snaps. After all, his wife is laying in bed, hemorrhaging and sure to die, and the result is this twisted, diseased-looking thing. He grabs the baby and runs out into the streets, where all of New Orleans is celebrating the end of World War I. He’s looking for a place to dump this creature, and at the last minute, he relents. He shoves a few grubby dollars into the blanket and leaves it on the back steps of an old age home, where Queenie (Taraji P. Henson) finds the baby. She decides she’s going to raise him as her own, figuring that due to all the problems with his health, that won’t be a very long process. And with this one act of cruelty and an equal act of kindness, Benjamin Button finds his place in the world and starts his very strange journey. The screenplay also invents a framing device featuring Daisy (Cate Blanchett) and her daughter Caroline (Julia Ormond). This is the material that takes place present-day, as the Gulf Coast prepares for the impact of Katrina. I’ve already read some people freaking out about this choice, but it seems to me to be a powerful thematic comment on a location that obviously affected everyone who shot this film there. If you know New Orleans at all and have any affinity for it, the current iteration of the city has to be a bit of a heartbreak for you. I visited New Orleans many times as a younger, wilder man, and a part of me never wants to go back now. I’m afraid to see what the hurricane did to it. But that’s exactly why it makes sense to me as a choice for the framing story. Nothing lasts, not even cities that seem to be part of the fabric of our country. Daisy’s dying, and it’s a matter of hours, most likely. There’s a sense that she and Caroline have been estranged, but she’s there now. And thanks to a collection of letters and photos and postcards and other items and a diary that her mother has, Caroline pieces together a story that completely changes her perception of her mother and, indeed, of herself. This entire section of the film is played between Blanchett in extreme old-age makeup by Greg Cannom that is on par with the best of Dick Smith’s old age work and Ormond, who has been largely absent from film lately. Blanchett is fading away the entire time, dying incrementally, her morphine dosage slowly being turned up. And she says all she wants is to hear her daughter’s voice. All this unspoken stuff is playing out between them, things unsaid and unresolved, and Ormond starts reading this story. But it’s not just the sound of her voice Blanchett’s after. There’s something she’s telling Ormond as well... her own story. As a kid, you know your parent as your parent, but it’s fairly rare that we really get to learn who they are as people. I think it’s one of the biggest barriers you can get over in your relationship, the idea that these people existed before you were around, that they had whole lives that didn’t involve you. It’s unfathomable for a kid, and that process can sometimes bring you closer, and sometimes it can drive you apart. I think it’s something worth doing though, and watching Ormond react as she’s hit with all of these new ideas about who her mother was is quite moving. In fact, in that way, I think BUTTON is more akin to BIG FISH than it is to FORREST GUMP. I don’t really like either of those films, though, so I’m surprised this one hit me as dead-center as it did. This is nowhere near as “magical realism” as either of those movies. You’re asked to accept one gigantic conceit, the idea of Benjamin aging backwards, and then everything else is just played as reality. There’s nothing “high concept” about the sequences in the film, and it’s almost unfair to call any of them set pieces in any traditional blockbuster sense. Benjamin’s life is a lot of things over the years, goes through a lot of stages. Each of those encounters changes or shapes him, and none of them explode as high drama or melodrama. Instead, things have these slow-motion effects, detonations that aren’t felt immediately. Take his detour with Elizabeth Abbott, for example. The great Tilda Swinton shows up for a protracted dalliance in a hotel in Russia, when she crosses paths with a freshly-wounded Benjamin, just back from the romantic front and smarting from his failure to connect. Elizabeth is older, in her 40s, and Benjamin looks like a man even older than her. But he’s a young man in terms of experience, and he’s never really courted a woman. What takes place between them is played with remarkable subtlety, and when it ends, it simply ends. They don’t hammer home any larger significance... it’s just part of who he is during his life. The defining relationship for Benjamin in the film is Daisy, of course. This is a love story, a doomed one, but then again... aren’t they all? Fincher’s interested in the ticking clock built into even the first kiss, the first date, the first glance across a room. You always know, no matter what, that there’s an end date coming. You may have five hours together, five years, fifty years, but again... nothing lasts. When Daisy and Benjamin meet the first time, they’re both children, emotionally speaking, and Daisy recognizes something in him, some kindred spirit. They bond, but he looks like a little old man and she’s just a little girl, so there’s no chance for them. The next time they meet, in one of the film’s most quietly painful sequences, he looks to be in his 50s, and he’s grown up quickly because of that sense of otherness that plagues him. She’s not quite 20 at this point, beautiful and ripe and young, and completely immature. She’s willing to be with him, but maturity-wise, they’re not ready to connect, and the encounter ends badly. It’s only later, when the two of them reach something like the same age, after both of them have felt loss and sorrow and hurt, that they’re able to approach each other as equals, as adults, with open eyes and open hearts. One of the things I love about the film is how there is no human villain, no bad guy introduced to steal Daisy’s affections or to create some artificial tension in their relationship. Time is enough of a villain, hungry, unrelenting. And when they have a child and Benjamin realizes that he’s not going to be able to be a real parent, time finally wins. He leaves again, setting off on the last leg of his journey alone. I’ve read some criticism that Benjamin is a passive lead character, but I’m not buying it. He’s not a big loud aggressive movie lead the way we’re used to, but neither is he just a feather on the wind like GUMP. Benjamin deals with what life brings him, and he lives with those choices, no matter how hard it is. The film has quite a bit to say about the way fate brings us together or tears us apart, and it’s not about stupid movie coincidence. I’ve thought about the way entire sections of our lives are built off of one decision, one moment where things fell together a particular way, and how any number of things could have prevented that from happening. I’ve been working with my writing partner now for 22 years, and the series of choices that put the two of us in one room for the very first time required his parents and my parents and our teachers and various employers of our parents to all do certain things a certain way, or we never would have met. If that had been the case, who knows where I’d be today, or what I’d be doing? Same thing with my wife... I met her at a party. What if I’d skipped out on it, like I did with so many other parties? What if I’d left before she arrived? What if I’d never met the person who invited me to the party? When I look at my two sons, I can’t imagine my life any other way than this, but it very easily could have gone a different direction based on a decision I made one night eight years ago. We are all victims of circumstance, and our lives are defined by the way we make choices based on those winds of fate. As I was watching the film, and it rolls into that last hour or so, the weight of it all and the beauty with which it’s presented just hit me, an accumulated emotional response, and I spent pretty much the entire last hour struggling with silent tears. There was no one single sledgehammer moment. Instead, it was the whole thing, the ideas it raises, the way it forced me to reflect on my own life. I’ve got no idea what anyone else will feel when watching this film, but I suspect each viewer will walk away with a very personal reaction, based on who they are, where they are in their lives, and what they’ve already experienced. Many films are designed to give every viewer approximately the same experience, but BENJAMIN BUTTON seems to be the opposite, a movie that was built with plenty of room for viewers to find their own way to their own reactions, and that’s one of the hardest things to pull off, especially in a film this size. And a big part of why it all works is because this cast all seems to be tuned in to whatever crazy-ass radio station is playing in Fincher’s head alone, all of them in synch with what he’s trying to do where. There is real magic in this film, and only a wee little bit of it can be credited to computers and the incredible work of Digital Domain and the host of other houses who all contributed to the film. I can’t say enough good things about Taraji P. Henson, who makes you believe that the boundless love that Queenie offers this disturbingly strange baby is enough to keep him alive. It’s a difficult role as written, and could easily have become a stereotype, but Henson brings that same warmth and sparkle to the role that she exhibited as Shug in HUSTLE & FLOW. I wish directors would bump her from supporting to starring roles, because she’s electric when she’s given the right material. Ormond’s work is subtle, but I think it’s some of the best work she’s done. She was brutally overhyped when she first showed up in film, and I think it ended up hurting her. She didn’t really get to hone her craft because there was so much pressure on her to carry films from day one. Here, she plays a smaller role than she used to play, and it benefits her. As I mentioned, Tilda Swinton comes in for what’s basically an extended cameo, and she offers up an indelible portrait of this woman, “plain as paper,” who proves to be such an important milestone in Benjamin’s development. I loved what Jason Flemyng did as Benjamin’s father, particularly in the later sequences in the film as he struggles to be a part of Benjamin’s life, no matter how late it is. Elias Koteas makes a brief but memorable appearance that sets a haunting tone for the film in an opening scene, and Mahershalalashbaz Ali does solid work as Tizzy, the life-long love interest of Queenie. Jared Harris shows up as Captain Mike, a tugboat captain who ends up taking Benjamin to war. His philosophy is a major piece of the puzzle for Benjamin, and Harris does lovely work in the role. But the film rests on the shoulders of two actors above all others. Cate Blanchett has long since proven herself to be a versatile talent, but part of what she does so well is vanish into her characters. Here, she’s playing a role that doesn’t really offer much in the way of camouflage. Playing Daisy across the span of her whole life, Blanchett has to impart the stages in this girl’s evolution, and she does it with delicacy and real wisdom. Towards the end of the film, as Benjamin reaches childhood, her work just becomes devastating. She and Pitt have an amazing rapport, and his role, which is so technically demanding, could have easily swallowed him whole. But over the years, Pitt’s proven that he’s at his best when he’s being challenged, and he does the best work of his career here. Moving, human, and heartbreaking, he makes Benjamin Button into a real person, not just a novelty. THE CURIOUS CASE OF BENJAMIN BUTTON is that rare film that manages to encompass the whole of the human experience in a mere two and a half hours, and I feel like I saw it at the right moment in my life. It’s something I’ll return to any number of times in the future, and it’s rich and strange and wonderful enough that I expect I’ll find something fresh in it every time. My profound thanks to every person involved in making this magic live and breathe, and I hope all of you reading this embrace the film the same way when it opens on Christmas day. Maybe one of the reasons the film worked on me so deeply is because I’m dealing with the notion of impermanence right now in a very personal way. I’ve been here at Ain’t It Cool News for 12 years now, and I consider Harry to be one of my best friends on the planet. Quint’s like a brother to me. Kraken, too. Mr. Beaks started as a talkbacker, and my correspondence with him led to a friendship that’s endured any number of professional and personal changes. John Robie was just another occasional spy when we first met during one of Harry’s trips to LA, and he’s one of my closest buddies now. The same is true of Dr. Hfhurrhurr, who is the godfather to my first son. And there are so many more friends I've made through AICN in all its forms... live events, the chat, the talkbacks, e-mail... without AICN, I can’t imagine the last decade of my life. And yet... nothing lasts. And so this month starts a transition that’s going to take me from AICN to my new online home, HitFix.com, a process that’s going to take the next six weeks or so. I've met so many great people and had so many remarkable experiences here that I guess a part of me thought that AICN would always just be part of me. It’s a little bit terrifying, and while I’m looking forward to working with a great group of people, part of me feels like I’m leaving behind one of the most significant things I’ve ever done. Nothing lasts, and as we are blown by the winds of change, we can either bend or break. Here’s hoping I’m strong enough to bend.


Drew McWeeny, Los Angeles

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  • Dec. 1, 2008, 3:34 a.m. CST

    the case of me..

    by StarskyandHushky

    ...being first!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 3:45 a.m. CST

    Wait a minute....

    by Boba Fat

    Was that a goodbye Mori?

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 3:47 a.m. CST

    Omg

    by red_weed

    i can't wait. new fincher? yes. it looks fantastic, and those aging effects look crazy awesome. a little freaky actually.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 3:54 a.m. CST

    This is Benjamin Button's life, and it's ending

    by half vader

    one minute at a time. Is that was you're saying Mori? <p> Oh, and when I read the "anti- Gump" thing, I knew this would be the film I was after. Hooray!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 3:58 a.m. CST

    your leaving? so soon?

    by antonphd

    mother hell. it wasn't enough to have to read about what is undoubtably a heart breaking film, but then to end the review telling us all you are going to leave AICN? that's just too much. at least I know where to find your reviews. but i won't be seeing this movie. i can tell that it ends in sadness. too much sadness in the world for me right now. maybe someday.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 4:14 a.m. CST

    No more rumblings from the lab???!!!

    by elbmirb

    Say it aint so :( i will shed man tears in your absence mori it wont be the same!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 4:16 a.m. CST

    Many More

    by drew mcweeny

    I've got a lot of stuff I'm cooking up for AICN still, things you'll be reading well into 2009, hopefully. But on a daily basis, I'll be moving.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 4:23 a.m. CST

    I'm so happy

    by ranma627

    that you liked the movie, Moriarty. I always trust your opinion and I really don't want Fincher to let me down. Zodiac is one of my favorite movies, I love Seven and Fight Club too and this just looks like the best movie of the year.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 4:23 a.m. CST

    man, sorry to hear that Mori

    by BadMrWonka

    but I wish the best of luck. just entered my email!<p>I know you'll be back from time to time anyway, you can't stay away from the troll infested swamp of the AICN talkbacks. oh and your decades-long friendships as well...but mostly it'll be us, I'm pretty sure...

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 4:23 a.m. CST

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

    by Lashlarue

    This is the saddest day in human history, and I'm not being sarcastic. :(

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 4:25 a.m. CST

    loserguy3000

    by BadMrWonka

    did you REALLY read the whole thing? because not only is it a long and complex film that touched the reviewer deeply and would therefore warrant a longer review, on top of that Mori announces at the end that he'll be leaving AICN, and your response is to condescendingly critique his reviewing style?<p>if the dick move fits, brother...

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 4:29 a.m. CST

    good luck mori

    by cripeman

    whenever I saw moriarty has seen ____. I knew it would be a great review.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 4:29 a.m. CST

    Godspeed Mori

    by redfist

    Great review and "everything matters, the little things are important".

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 4:40 a.m. CST

    SPOILER alert???????

    by the_scream

    For crying out loud Mori. How about reviewing the film. This was a long explanation of the plot, almost scene for scene at times. I had to stop reading. after the first couple of paragraphs.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 4:44 a.m. CST

    The Scream

    by drew mcweeny

    Put a spoiler warning on it. But I reread, and you're wrong. I've barely touched on the plot of the film. It's over two and a half hours. So. Much. Happens.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 4:45 a.m. CST

    Love Moriarty

    by Mister McClane

    Always fantastic film writing, one of my favourites. Will miss you from AICN. Hitfix then eh...

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 4:59 a.m. CST

    Signing on for the first time ever to say thank you

    by Chevette

    Moriarty, thank you, thank you, thank you. I have been reading AICN since i was 17 years old, which is to say closing in on a decade. My first real memory of reading your work was hunched over my parents computer reading your initial script review for The Fountain in a state of utter shock and awe. To me you have been the voice of reason on AICN in many ways. Some one who, even when i disagree with your take on a movie, I can totally understand your point and where you are coming from, luckily those moments have seemed to be few and far between. THANK YOU once again, i will be sure to follow you to your new home and read your ramblings while lurking in silence for another decade or so.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 5:12 a.m. CST

    The British House Of Commons leaps to mind :

    by Rocco Curioso

    "You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!".<P>Welcome to Chamberlain country, Drew. It suits you.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 5:31 a.m. CST

    Finally ...

    by adrianmole

    Now that BY FAR the best reviewer at this site is leaving, I can finally stop coming here! ... Good luck Moriarty, and I look forward to reading your insightful reviews at your new home

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 5:31 a.m. CST

    I never really liked David Fincher.

    by DerLanghaarige

    His movies were silly and lack coherent storytelling (except Fight Club, which I consider as the best film of the 90's!), his visuals were professional but not that impressive and his musicvideos and commercials were everything else than special, but HOLY SHIT I really wanna see that movie and I'm damn sure that I will like it!<br> This been said: Moriarty, I wonder if you are moving on just because we all look for different things from time to time or if it has something to do with that over the last year you seemed to be really pissed in most of your talkback appereances and it looked to me like you were sick of what AICN became.<br> P.S.: I read over my post now four times and got no idea if my grammar makes any sense. But whatever. I'm hungry.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 5:32 a.m. CST

    say it ain't so!

    by lex romero

    Moriarty, you've always been the best writer on AICN and you've convinced me to see many films I had barely looked at, or to make me look at a film in a different light. With you leaving AICN loses an arm.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 5:32 a.m. CST

    HitFix?

    by WhinyNegativeBitch

    Strange and unknown upsets me.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 5:35 a.m. CST

    This actually looks like...

    by WhinyNegativeBitch

    ...The first boring Fincher movie. Don't get me wrong, the trailers were fucking great, but theres something about the concept that just makes me sleepy. Yeah, doesn't matter, because his resume gaurantees a ticket purchase.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 5:38 a.m. CST

    Wow

    by kwisatzhaderach

    AICN without Moriarty? Bit pointless isnt it?

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 5:38 a.m. CST

    Mori -

    by Abhimanyu

    I've been reading since '95, and your writing and analysis has always been one of the highlights for me - even when I vehemently disagreed. Good luck, sir, and thank you.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 5:40 a.m. CST

    ANY new Fincher is good news.

    by Droid

    The man makes great films. Zodiac is so underrated its unbelievable.<p>Thanks for the review, Mori. Although I didn't read much more than the first two paragraphs (I want this flick as fresh as possible), the fact that you loved it bodes very well indeed.<p>Sorry to see you go, Mori.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 5:41 a.m. CST

    As for Button

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Can't wait. Fincher's been a filmmaking god since Alien 3.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 5:42 a.m. CST

    Not sure if I want to see this...

    by theBigE

    I'm curious if it ends the way the short story does. I'm not at that point in my life where I like to confront my own mortality. Sounds like a great film, regardless. Best wishes at the new place, Mori. Is Harry ok with you trying to steal his readers?

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 5:44 a.m. CST

    We'll miss ya, Drew.

    by Nordling

    I wish you the best of luck to your website and film career, man. Getting verklempt... talk amongst yourselves...

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 5:47 a.m. CST

    Meanwhile..................

    by Righteous Brother

    Empire magazine has a ton of pictures from the new Wolverine movie, including what I believe is the first picture of Gambit, there's also loads of stuff about Michael Mann's next movie with whith Depp and Bale - this stuff ought to be on AICN, especially as they've been following the development of these two films.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 6:04 a.m. CST

    What, you're moving on?

    by Righteous Brother

    Good luck to you Mori, the place won't be the same without you. We'll all be catching you at Hitflix.com

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 6:13 a.m. CST

    WOW

    by The InSneider

    I never thought I'd see the day but this is truly the end of an era. Good luck on the new site, Mori!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 6:33 a.m. CST

    You better have a good reason

    by comedian_x

    for leaving to "HitFix" and it better not be money. You would leave a site run by people who live and breath movies like Harry for what, I assume, is a pop-culture blog for idiots. You will regret this decision for the rest of your career. When this blog goes belly-up I hope there is still a place for you at AICN.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 6:36 a.m. CST

    Good review though.

    by comedian_x

    I been looking forward to this for a long time.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 6:38 a.m. CST

    Can't WAIT for this...

    by Mr Gorilla

    but let's not start slagging off FOREST GUMP for being too lightweight. There was LOADS of good stuff in there. And sometimes it is more courageous to NOT just be dark, dark, dark.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 6:44 a.m. CST

    shock

    by AllieJamison

    First of all: good review, thank you. Secondly: It's quite shocking and sad to see you go, Mori. But as a great German author once put it: "for each beginning bears a special magic" (jedem Anfang wohnt ein Zauber inne). I wish you that special magic over at hitflix. I suppose most of the people in this TB have already signed up over there for their constant Mori-fix. I wonder what aicn will be like without Moriarty and what Drew McWeeney will be like on hitflix...or what the fuck hitflix is anyway. I guess it's time for a book containing Mori's best work on aicn...plus the talkbacks of course.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 6:47 a.m. CST

    Thanks

    by Barko

    Been reading the site a long time and have enjoyed your work. Thanks, Mori. And good luck.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 6:49 a.m. CST

    Damn You Michael Bay

    by MCMLXXVI

    Damn You Michael Bay

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 6:49 a.m. CST

    Hitflix sounds to me like an online DVD-shop.

    by DerLanghaarige

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 6:50 a.m. CST

    FIX, not flix, dammit!

    by DerLanghaarige

    Still sounds like an onlineshop.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 6:52 a.m. CST

    Sad To See You Go, Best Writer at AICN

    by cowboyone

    Best of luck with the new gig.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 6:54 a.m. CST

    Just a Heads Up, HitFix Server Speed is Shit

    by cowboyone

    Might want to address the increase in traffic volume you're bringing Mori. ($$$)

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 6:57 a.m. CST

    there's a new Harry Potter trailer up..

    by Fortunesfool

    on the official site. I've never seen it mentioned here yet so go have a look if you're interested. Good review Moz. Looking forward to this.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 6:57 a.m. CST

    Mori - a suggestion?

    by Righteous Brother

    before you leave is there any chance you could do a reflection of maybe the ten films that have influenced you the most since you've been here, or you 10 most memorable moments? A lot has happened move wise since you've been writing for AICN.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 7:08 a.m. CST

    PLANT!

    by palimpsest

    Et cetera. That aside, AICN will be a poorer place with out ya. Don't be a stranger now...

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 7:12 a.m. CST

    MORIARTY: You are the best writer on the team.

    by Alfie Boy

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 7:13 a.m. CST

    I'm Boycotting HitFix

    by kevinwillis.net

    Because I do want things to stay the same forever, and if they don't, it makes me angry, so I boycott them. I demand other's lives stagnate so nothing has to change for me!<br><br>I'm serious.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 7:25 a.m. CST

    You can't leave! All the plants are gonna die!

    by Zarles

    I know you'll miss it here, but look at it this way - there's a good chance you won't have to deal with fuckwits like loserguy3000 anymore.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 7:28 a.m. CST

    Mr. Moriarty and questions about your site.

    by moondoggy2u

    Without a doubt, you have always been and continue to be the best writer/reviewer at AICN and I sincerely wish you all the best in your new direction. I can honestly say that I cannot wait to see how you will run a "Mori-site."<p>Now, I understand that you are probably keeping things close to the vest but what sort of direction will your website branch out? Will it have talkback threads? Will you still be known as Moriarty? ;)

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 7:39 a.m. CST

    Thank You

    by hebrokeaway

    Thanks for the last twelve years, and I look forward to the new site. I get the sense that you (heck, most people) outgrew AICN many years ago and a change is needed. Good luck and get Vern and Beaks on staff.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 7:43 a.m. CST

    lol! Talk about Burying The Lede...

    by aint_it_cruel?

    you are gonna finish the best of the 90's list before you go.....right?

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 7:50 a.m. CST

    Mori, the Monday Morning Quarterback...

    by Bill Brasky

    Don't like Big Fish or Forrest Gump? I guess you're too cool to like Apple Pie and Baseball too, huh Mori? Yeah, and I'm sure you weren't the first geek running out of the theater in July 1994 busting at the seems to tell everyone how much you loved Forrest Gump.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 7:50 a.m. CST

    I thank you

    by duct tape wallet

    Mr. McWeeney, I've certainly gained great respect for your reviews and views over the years and I'm looking forward to what opportunities the new site brings to you, that you will bring to us in time. Great review today!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 7:52 a.m. CST

    Will be missing you, Mori!

    by seppukudkurosawa

    And I'll make damn sure we keep the Toshiro Lucas trend alive over in the Zone.<p> </p>Oh, and this movie sounds spectacular!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 7:52 a.m. CST

    I believe I may have poo-poo'd you in the past...

    by Cap'n Jack

    ...but your a damn good writer, Drew.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 7:55 a.m. CST

    I saw it as well...

    by QuiGonnDucard

    And you're spot on Mori. After awhile you forget about the wonderous effects at work to tell this great story. There was a Q&A after the film I saw. Frank Marshall said he's been involved with the film in one way or another for 18 years. And Fincher said it was really only in the last 7 that they thought FX were to a place where it would serve the story and not distract. A funny aside, the costume designer was asked about the red dress that Cate wears in one of the key scenes. She said she had to fight for red because Fincher doesn't like to shoot the color. Fincher replied "Unless it's splattered on a wall..."

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 7:56 a.m. CST

    By the way, Mori. Do you think it was a smart idea...

    by DerLanghaarige

    ...to provide a link to your new home? I mean, if I would try something new, I definitely would not want to let any talkbacker know where I am now. ;)

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 7:59 a.m. CST

    AICN without Moriarty!?!?! WTF?

    by unionJACKass.webs.com

    I'll miss you on AICN, Mori, but I'll certainly visit your new online home everyday. :) <p> BTW, I hope you'll still be in the chatroom everyday. <p> p.s. Great review BTW.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 8 a.m. CST

    You're thinking too much, Mori...

    by Kid Z

    ...That whole, "What if I never went to the party where I randomly met the woman who'd end up being my wife?" bit is merely a logical fallacy, not to mention a whole lot of mental wanking.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 8:17 a.m. CST

    Well...

    by andtheflesh

    ...thats one less reason to come to AICN. Moriarty was easily the best writer and reviewer on the site. Without Mor and Quint there'd be no reason to visit.<br> <br> The site has become so closely tied with directors and studios that its started pandering. Either AICN, at the behest of the suits, takes down leaked news OR the news is so old that even the studios don't care.<br> <br> Even Harry's reviews, you don't see a love of film there anymore. It's become pure hyperbole without an ounce of clever whatsoever. And when he's not spouting shit like 'chocolate covered pussy juice' he's just jerking off his new movie making buddies. His reviews provide no insight and have actually become embarassing to read.<br> <br> I'd leave outright too but I appreciate the movie-a-day bits so much. I guess one reason to visit is better then none.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 8:21 a.m. CST

    AICN with ScriptGirl and NOT Moriarty!

    by unionJACKass.webs.com

    How can that be right???

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 8:23 a.m. CST

    andtheflesh

    by unionJACKass.webs.com

    I agree with everything you said. Harry is the draw here, but Mori is the backbone, the engine, the core... etc of AICN. First GONE, then ScriptGirl and now Mori leaving. :shakes head:

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 8:28 a.m. CST

    Let's no go overboard here

    by seppukudkurosawa

    Vern is still the best writer on the site. Moriarty gets a blue ribbon for Best Grammatician, though.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 8:29 a.m. CST

    kickass

    by Speed Fricassee

    It's about time, Mori. You're too good for this site.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 8:30 a.m. CST

    Circumstance

    by barry convex

    Mori, what random encounter led you to HitFix.com?

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 8:35 a.m. CST

    You will be missed Mori

    by m_reporter

    I'm a long time reader, aspiring filmmaker and a true geek inside. All I can say is that "ain't it cool" shaped the way I perceive movies over the years, and you have been a big part of that. <p> So I just want to wish you all the best man, I'll definitely look you up at hitfix.com<p>

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 8:41 a.m. CST

    Thank you

    by starmand

    I, like the others here, have enjoyed reading your reviews for many years and wish you the best of luck at your new job.

  • I have to admit, though, I'm wondering if I saw the same film as everybody else. I didn't really find the film terribly interesting or engaging except as a technical exercise, and I wondered what the point of the whole thing was, other than to give the Academy some warm-fuzzies and slam-dunk nods (Pitt and Blanchett both take the nod, Blanchett wins it). I found it flabby, to be honest, and I STILL wish Fincher would have his toys taken away or express anything resembling an OPINION.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 9 a.m. CST

    Mori, I....I really don't know what to say, this really hits me

    by IndustryKiller!

    I'm being very serious. You leaving makes me think of my own journey since this site began and just how important aint it cool has been to me. I started coming to this site over a decade ago when I was just a kid. Back then I was incredibly introverted and had absolutely no idea what the hell I wanted to do with my life, but I knew one thing, I loved movies. The internet at the time was brand new for me and since I was always the last kid in my incredibly small New England town to have the new technological whatever of the day I would come here only during study halls in school and whenever possible at a friends house. It was absolutely incredible to me that I could have access not only to this kind of unadulterated movie news (the term spoiler was brand new) but that I could have access to fellow fans as well. This really awoke something in me and took a passion that I had always had and made it into something more, something serious and tangible. Over the years as I matured so did my tastes and it became apparent that I was going to have to put my convictions into action and that action was going to have to be working in film. Through all that, and Im not exagerrating here, your voice stood out critically above all the others. It's gonna sound really cheesy, but I just thought you were pretty fucking awesome as I was growing up. It felt like one of the fans, someone like me, had gotten a voice and was really using it for the power of the good of film. And that really goes for all the editors on this site, but to me you stood out the most. <P> I remember back a bit after episode 2 when Episode 3 rumors were running about and a piece of concept art supposedly of Vader right after he was burned and turned into something "more machine than man" was hitting the web. You ran a story about it but had decided not to show it. I was incensed, and I railed LOUDLY int he talkbacks about what a sell out you were and how this is the death of what aint it cool news stands for. its hilarious now, your explaination that you were gonna sit on it to allow better info int eh future to come out rather than put Lucasfilm on lockdown for a tiny shred of info was more than reasonable, but this was like 5 years ago and believe it or not I was even more fiery than I am now. but, lo and behold, and hour later the picture showed up in my e-mail, my punk rock ethos had struck a nerve (no matter how unreasonable) OR, and more likely, you just wanted to shut me up. Either way you could have knocked me over with a feather. At the time this seemed like really important info and Star Wars back then meant EVERYTHING to me so to have something that not many others were seeing was like heaven. It really truly meant the world to me, and it pretty much got me on your side forever. <P> Cut to present day, I live in LA now following my dream, which seems about a bazillion miles from where I was when I discovered this site. We've corresponded informally over the years since and it was a real treat meeting you at the Trick or Treat Screening a month back. I had sort of figured, given your advanced stage of family and career, that your days here may have been numbered but I didnt really want to think about it so when I read the end of this review it pretty much made me go numb I was so shocked. As I read those sentences I knew what you were getting at and thinking "Say it aint so!" the whole time. But, as you said, nothing lasts, and I suppose its a natural progression. But I will say, you're still my favorite film critic, period, and whatever you get payed here it probably isnt what you deserve in an age when Ben Lyons can talk completely out of his ass in front of a camera and disgustingly get a lot more. I've already signed up at hitfix and Ill be checking out what you got there. But I just want to say, thank you. Your work, when I agree with it and when I don't, has meant something to me and has made a mark on my own personally journey, and hopefully that wont change with the scenery. Here's to putting our futures behind us.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 9:05 a.m. CST

    I still think Mori deserves major, major props

    by seppukudkurosawa

    for being the only AICN staffer (other than Beaks and maybe Merrick) not to bombard every one of their articles with Amazon links/other shameless self promotion (even Vern pimps out Seagalogy). I know Mori had his DVD column a few years back, but still...You've got principles and you stick to them. Here's hoping your new venture takes off outta the Solar System!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 9:12 a.m. CST

    One other thing

    by seppukudkurosawa

    Does this mean Neill Cumpston is leaving too...?!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 9:19 a.m. CST

    Cue the Sid Vicious version of "My Way"

    by IndustryKiller!

    To start up on the main page the day Mori officially jets aicn. That would be appropriate.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 9:23 a.m. CST

    "Nothing lasts, not even cities"

    by smackfu

    Actually, most cities last. Just not ones that are holding an ocean at bay.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 9:30 a.m. CST

    This is totally unrelated, but...

    by DerLanghaarige

    ...isn't it weird how hard some people tried to establish the silly phrase "Nuke The Fridge" last summer, but just a few months later I don't see anyone using it anymore. Not that I'm complaining. I predicted something like that, but I just noticed it today. I don't even have any idea if this silly little nukethefridge site is still online. (I guess it was shut down two weeks after they started it.)

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 9:35 a.m. CST

    redtube

    by moondoggy2u

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 9:39 a.m. CST

    Is anyone else getting a damned redtube popup??

    by moondoggy2u

    Everytime I open this thread, I'm getting a freaking redtube popup.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 9:39 a.m. CST

    "Email has already been taken"

    by abcdefz7

    Hmmm. I've tried three different addresses and HitFix keeps telling me my email address has already been taken. Any help? Anyway, Good luck, Drew. You've been my favorite reviewer here for years.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 9:42 a.m. CST

    I signed up as soon as I saw the link, abc

    by moondoggy2u

    and didn't have a single problem. Maybe the site is getting overloaded?

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 9:46 a.m. CST

    Maybe you double-clicked it?

    by seppukudkurosawa

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 9:48 a.m. CST

    WHAT THE FUCK?!! YOU'RE LEAVING MORI?!

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Awwww fuck. You go. I go. Fuck this.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 9:51 a.m. CST

    the_scream -- spoilers?

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    What spoilers? Shut the fuck up.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 10:03 a.m. CST

    HitFlix seems slick and soulless. Don't do it Mori!

    by Snake Foreskin

    HitFlix looks like every other entertainment site out there. AICN may be infuriating at times, but at least it's different. Moriarty, you're making a mistake with that HitFlix format.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 10:03 a.m. CST

    Leaving so soon?

    by darthspielberg

    Mori, you've always been my favorite writer here on AICN, so I wish you the best in future endeavors. Have fun at the new site and Have fun working with Joe Dante you luck ass bastard. :)

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 10:04 a.m. CST

    HitFix, that is. Not HitFlix.

    by Snake Foreskin

    I may have gotten the name wrong, but I am right about it being just like every other entertainment site on the internet. Boo.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 10:07 a.m. CST

    Dang. That's sad news. But...

    by gotilk

    Seeya there. I'll miss your stuff here in this context though.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 10:08 a.m. CST

    Nothing Lasts

    by Geekgasm

    Except that review. My gawd it went on and on. Having seen the trailer for this multiple times, it has never done anything for me except make me afraid I was going to grow a vagina. Too chick-flicky regardless of the CG and the fantastical aspects and the whatever. "Nothing Lasts", however, was a great Matthew Sweet song.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 10:08 a.m. CST

    Good luck Mori...

    by buffywrestling

    Sad day for us talkbackers. Well, we'll always have facebook/myspace. I hope you keep us posted. *Big Hugs*

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 10:10 a.m. CST

    Didn't like Big Fish?

    by ballyhoo

    What the hell?

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 10:12 a.m. CST

    Mori! You're leaving?

    by chutneylix

    I didn't realize. It was that much more saddening coming at the end of this fantastic review. I'm sure you'll have an official goodbye post at some point. But I'd just like to echo what other people said, you're really the only reason I come here anymore. With you gone, I have none. Your well-written and touching reviews always get to me. Although I'm disappointed that you don't like Forrest Gump. I can understand Big Fish as that movie divided people. But Forrest Gump?? The ones I know that don't like it are the smash and bang summer blockbuster types who don't have the patience for anything else. But anyway, I hope one day (when you get bigger) you will release a book with all your best reviews. Good luck at HitFix, I'll be visiting regularly just for you!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 10:13 a.m. CST

    BBINO!!!

    by Ye Not Guilty

    BENJAMIN BUTTON IN NAME ONLY!!!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Well damn

    by toshiro-solo

    Best of luck to you Drew. I'll definitely be checking out the new site, but your presence here will be sorely missed. You bring a frisson of maturity to a site that sometimes lacks it, and I really believe that AICN will be losing a big piece of what makes it special on the day that you ride off into the sunset. I don't post much, but - thanks for many years of thoughtful, entertaining writing here, and we'll see you on the new site soon!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 10:20 a.m. CST

    If there was one person we could trust...

    by r3write

    Actually everyone here but harry has good taste. But if one had to put balance into a group like AICN, it had to be Mori. He always put reviews into a deeper side of cinema, explaining its powerful messages while giving an honest approach within each viewing. Kinda like vern, but less funnier and a bit more emotional while throwing more references to his son than they are to california in red hot songs. But it was a welcome change, and hes the testament to that of what happens when us fans will eventually become IF EVER we do have families of our own. A PARENT. I could only imagine how it might change me as a fan and my perspective on film, keeping that same geek soul but with a step deeper into adulthood. And yet i can somehow relate that to Mori, whos been through that growth and maturity as a fan while still trying to find that same answer between movies and life. So thank you Mori for being the geek inside us all, while still opening our eyes just a little bit more from places we have yet to see. You said "nothing lasts", but being who you are it seems after all these years even with its quality beginning to diminish you still never lost your faith in film. And thats something we can always look forward to. With this day marked, this place should just now be called "Aint what it used to be" Good luck and godspeed.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 10:22 a.m. CST

    I didn't skimmed through the review

    by T 1000 xp professional

    to not read spoilers. To my dismay I caught one piece of news that stunned me. Freaking Moriarty is leaving? DAMNNNNITTTTTT. well man, here's the best of luck to you. God bless you and your family wherever you go. You already know your presence will still be most appreciated here, but your decision must've been pretty thought out as it is. Go over there and kick some ass.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 10:23 a.m. CST

    Good luck Mori

    by wash

    I'll miss seeing you as part of the fabric of this site, but you have to follow where your heart leads. Damn that sounds corny, but fuck it.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 10:32 a.m. CST

    lolol just skimmed*

    by T 1000 xp professional

    that was a bad one haha

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 10:34 a.m. CST

    It seems that hitflix

    by Flummage

    ...rejects me like the no good son of a something that I so obviously am. On two email addresses, no less. Perhaps not so curious, whence I dwell apon it.<p> The farewell Drew talkback is going to arrive sooner than I would want it to, but I think I'll have to wait untill then to say thank ye's,farewells and good doins. Nothing ever lasts, but it lasts untill it's time for something new, hmm?<p> Corny is as corny does.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 10:43 a.m. CST

    Great news

    by Reckoner

    I've been looking forward to this movie for a year, and to see this review gives me hope that my expectations will be met and even surpassed. I knew it would be special, mainly because of Fincher, and to read this great review from Mori confirms that.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Good luck Mori..vaia con dios

    by ChocolateJesusMan

    If your'e ever out in Santa Monica Hit me up and we can grab some cold ones on me just to say "thanks"

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 10:47 a.m. CST

    Danny.

    by HoboCode

    Don't get everyone's hopes up. SNAP!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 10:47 a.m. CST

    Goodbye Prof Moriarty

    by quentintarantado

    Yes, we can still read you online, but yes, I'll still miss you in this context. Goodbye, sir.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 10:49 a.m. CST

    au revoir, Moriarty!

    by TakeItEasyMon

    You've been my favorite reviewer on this site for the better part of a decade, and I'm sad to see you leave. Best of luck in the future! Unfortunately, this site stopped being about good movie reviews quite a long time ago. Of course I don't know a thing from the outside looking in, but it seems a lot of deals with the devil were made as far as what you all would/would not write about in exchange for early access? I'm sure the politics of these things is difficult. Your work has been the best on the site by far, though, and you will be missed!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Mori leaving.

    by HoboCode

    It definitely leaves this site lacking a credible reviewer. Sure I enjoy the inane rantings of Massawyrm or the nauseating geek spooge of Harry, but this leaves a gaping hole of legitimate film criticism on AICN. May I submit my resume?

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 10:55 a.m. CST

    Major bummer

    by AdmiralNeck

    Weirdly sad (like, intensely sad) to hear you're going, but I hope it works out for you. I guess I don't like change much either, especially when it comes at a time of huge change for me as well. Goddammit, can one thing in my life be permanent? God! <p>Just don't ever give up writing about films online, Mori. You're a sane voice and we need that.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 10:58 a.m. CST

    oh fuck off Hobocode....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    The job is already mine. I'm going to have to use a more formal moniker though, perhaps MR. GLOVER.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 11 a.m. CST

    MORI

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    The important question is, will your new site have Talkbacks? If not.....its just not gonna work out. There are too many entertainment sites regurgitating the same day old scoop.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 11 a.m. CST

    OMG DREW YOU'RE LEAVING AICN?!?!?!?!

    by BringingSexyBack

    I can't believe it man. This place won't be the same without you. I like your reviews, and your occasional forays into the talkbacks to administer some discipline. <P> I wish you much success at hitfix and will definitely look for ya there. But stay on as a talkbacker. Please. With a blackbox. The fun must not die.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Mori...

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Can you make some last minute Executive Orders before you go? Give every member of the CoC a black box. That would be awesome. We could fill the gaping hole you leave, with insight and testicular fortitude.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 11:08 a.m. CST

    Thanks for all the articles, Mori

    by DKT

    Seriously bummed to hear this. I hope you still pop on by every once in a while.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 11:13 a.m. CST

    why mori why

    by Westonian

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 11:13 a.m. CST

    fuck fuck shit

    by waggy

    Like everyone else has been saying, you are my favorite critic on this site. Fuck that, you are my favorite critic period. Though our tastes have slightly branched away from each other since you became a family man, i still find your reviews to be the only ones anywhere that help me decide if a movie is or isn't worth seeing. Best of luck with this new site, and if it doesn't work out, I am sure the door will always be open here. Just assure us that we'll get one last year-end top 10.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 11:14 a.m. CST

    Fincher has never disappointed.

    by Redfive!

    Sounds like a fantastic film,still ill go in with low expectations and hopefully come out satisfied.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 11:17 a.m. CST

    WILL YOU HAVE AMATEUR PORN AT HITFIX?

    by BringingSexyBack

    I like that.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Drew/Moriarty

    by seppukudkurosawa

    ...you're not gonna finish that Best Movies of the '90s list, are ya? Come on, out with it! We're man enough to handle the truth!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 11:25 a.m. CST

    unless Waterworld is on that Best of the 90's list...

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    ...I'm not interested.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Moriarty

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    You leaving AICN is not cool. I repeat, NOT COOL. Yeah, this ain't cool news.<P>I'll hold off on the good-byes until the Official Farewell Drew/Moriarty Talkback is posted. In the meantime, I wish you much success at your new online home. AICN (and Talkback) won't be the same without you.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 11:35 a.m. CST

    RE: Moriarty's MILK TB

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    I wonder if that was the night Mori broke the news to Harry. Harry must have gotten loaded...which might explain the landslide of Black Box posts...

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 11:40 a.m. CST

    MNG

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Hhhhmmm.....that could be.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 11:42 a.m. CST

    Good Luck Drew

    by Xiphos_2

    Thanks for all the good work over the years. You'll be missed.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 11:48 a.m. CST

    Shit man. Shit.

    by Deathpool

    Good luck Drew, I'll follow your work at the new site, but it won't be the same man. Next to Harry, you ARE AICN.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 11:49 a.m. CST

    TOO SOON!!!!!

    by BringingSexyBack

    Later, Punkass Drewster

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 11:50 a.m. CST

    wow...best of luck to ya Mori...

    by just pillow talk

    Now, more than ever, AICN will need a new mod to lead them into the coming dark times...and that is...<p>MNG for Mod '08!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 11:52 a.m. CST

    CCHHRRISSMM FOR MOD!!!

    by BringingSexyBack

    Then we mutiny dis muhfuckin ship.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 11:53 a.m. CST

    DREW - WATCH OUT FOR SOMALI PIRATES ON YOUR VOYAGE

    by BringingSexyBack

    They're crazy.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 11:56 a.m. CST

    CoC for BLACK BOXES!!

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 11:56 a.m. CST

    Just pillow talk and Mr. Nice Gaius

    by seppukudkurosawa

    Yet more Pazuzu alts. And now they're trying to piledrive the Mr. Nice Gaius alt into becoming a mod. FFS, WHY CAN'T AICN SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING! THE ANSWERS ARE RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF EVERYONE'S EYES. Just study "their" writing styles...

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 12:01 p.m. CST

    seppukudkurosawa

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Huh?! Are you zfisk/homewrecker or something?! DocPaz is his own man and you're stepping into the much fabled Multi-Username Conspiracy with that load.<P>The "MNG for Mod-thing" started with some fun zingers between me and Gus Van Rant. Much like you Zoners, we here in Talkback know how to have fun.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 12:02 p.m. CST

    Does that mean you are now, officially, 'the competition'..?

    by workshed

    Does that mean Harry needs new staff..? Fly me out to L.A. and I'll do it (of course, one would need an expense account too!). Kinda reminds me of that scene in 'Talk Radio' where 'Michael Wincott' bursts into the studio... Let's hope Mori doesn't get shot on his way home.! Good luck with whatever you choose to do in the future Drew. It's been great posting (usually in agreement) on the thousands of articles you've written down the years. Whatever do at HitFix, it'll never be as important as the AICN years' but I'm sure you can live with that. UP AND OUT..!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 12:04 p.m. CST

    you wanna have some fun?

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Try fishing a tampon out of a bloody cunt with your teeth.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 12:05 p.m. CST

    He'll be back, and don't forget I told ya so!

    by HEADGEEK

    And he'll rue this day! You'll see! Rue, I'm talking serious rueage - is that how you spell that? I'm thinking of just posting all his stories here on AICN with a link - so he stays - only I get to introduce the link, just like when I introduced all his ramblings at the beginning.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 12:06 p.m. CST

    Great screenplay with one major flaw

    by s0nicdeathmonkey

    Button is passive for almost the entire film.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Heh heh

    by seppukudkurosawa

    You see what I did? I turned an old injoke into an even older injoke!<p> </p>I just ran across Homewrecker's blog again for the first time in years, and I figured dredging that whole thing up again would be good for a few laffs.<p> Someone should make a list of these things one of these days.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 12:09 p.m. CST

    NNOOOooooooo!!

    by LegoKenobi

    ok, i may just be swept up in the shock, but dammit, i don't know how much i'll be coming back here to read reviews without mori weighing in. i like harry's geektastic gushings, and i enjoy all the other reviewers, but mori was the sensible voice that i for sure look for when i'm interested in a movie. dammit.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 12:11 p.m. CST

    DGDB

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Quote: "Try fishing a tampon out of a bloody cunt with your teeth."<P>And you wondered why Harry called you a clown?!<P>Heh.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 12:15 p.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Yeah I like to have a good time. Sorry, I'm not here to lick the Mod's balls all day.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Vote for ChocolateJesusMan in 09...

    by ChocolateJesusMan

    Vote for me to fill moriarty's shoes and ill send you a Nekkid picture of "Captain Janeway" from star trek voyager

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 12:18 p.m. CST

    seppukudkurosawa

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Nice! So, I take it you saw ol' zfisk's latest blog? After I called him out in one of the fairly recent Superman TBs, he decided to take a shot at me for support Jon Hamm as a possible future Supes.<P>zfisk/homewrecker is one crazy bitch. Yet, he is always good for a few laughs.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 12:24 p.m. CST

    Benjamin Button

    by mh79

    is something to look forward to at the cinemas as there has been some disappointing unwatchable boring shit out lately with Twilight, Austrailia, Four Christmases and expecially Zack and Miri. By the way, you should employ that danny glover guy, i would read his reviews!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Bring it, Button!

    by Ryang

    Great Review! :)

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 12:30 p.m. CST

    Who has time to read that review?

    by BEEK

    Edit please. I have a life. Shit, I don't have time to type this. Bye.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 12:31 p.m. CST

    WOW

    by THE KNIGHT

    Sad day.... nothing really does last does it? Part of me really tries to ignore the fact that we're all going to get old, especially close family members like my granny, moms and pops. <p> it really hurts to think they won't be around some day.... sometimes it makes you want to ask why... smh...

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 12:33 p.m. CST

    I'm a huge Fincher fan but I was underwhelmed...

    by Karl Hungus

    Yes, it's beautifully shot and the make-up is pretty stunning but the characters are paper-thin and the overall story is exceptionally tedious. Without the reverse aging gimmick there is no story of interest here and even with that gimmick, Benjamin Button is so flaccid and lifeless over the course of his life, I'm not sure this twist provided him (or us) with any new insight into the human experience. A shame too, because the film is instantly mesmerizing but then becomes a total train wreck in its neverending second half. A major misfire from an otherwise brilliant director.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Karl Hungus

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    I wouldn't really expect a hardcore Fincher fan to be into this film oddly enough.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 12:38 p.m. CST

    :(

    by Bob of the Shire

    Oh Mori.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 12:42 p.m. CST

    well thats the end of aicn

    by ZO

    they lost their one interesting writer

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 12:51 p.m. CST

    If Nolan decides to not do a third Knight film...

    by HoboCode

    get Fincher to do it.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Fincher is the freakin man...

    by GravyAkira

    Huge fan of all his movies, including Alien 3, and cant wait to see this. I was sure The Dark Knight had it locked for favorite of the year in my book, but with a new David Fincher film on the horizon anything is possible. And Zodiac is the best thing shot on HD ever!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 12:54 p.m. CST

    Good riddance

    by RowdyRoddyStriper

    Moriarty is easily the worst reviewer on this site. And this review is a perfect example. I saw this film Friday night, and it was just not very good. The first hour when he was an old man was alright, but then it is just boring as hell and derivative, and yes, it is EXACTLY like Forrest Gump, even if it may be a bit darker. I mean fuck, we got a character called not Lieutenant Dan, but Captain Mike!!! Absolutely ridiculous. Cate Blanchett is just like Jenny, and she's a real asshole to boot. Only in a movie would Benjamin still want her after how she treats him. But like Gump, he still wants her, has a kid with her. And Benjamin acts like a little kid way beyond his "childhood." It made no sense. And he IS a passive character who does nothing. The old age effects were great, but the part where Benjamin is 16 years old looked creepy as hell, and the way they edited it makes me believe the filmmakers knew this as well. And the logic of the film is ridiculous. If he starts out as an old man baby, should he not end as a fully grown infant? Fitzgerald's story made sense the way it was told. The way this story is told makes no sense whatsoever. Fincher just thought it'd be cool to have an old man baby. And then give him Alzheimer's once he is a young kid. Lame! <p> But again, good riddance to Moriarty, the guy has zero taste in film, and zero talent as a writer, both here and for the screen. He wishes he could write the type of studio garbage he praises, he wishes he could have that career, but he never will. He's just an internet critic, like every other douchebag on the internet. Bye Mori, this site will be made MUCH better by your absence. Don't let the door hit your fat ass on the way out.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 12:54 p.m. CST

    This Movie Is Not That Good

    by topaz4206

    At the screening, director David Fincher was asked what he’d like people to take away from this film, to which he replied, "Er, er, er..." I’ll spare you the 7 "er"s that followed, but my viewing of the film confirmed this: Mr. Fincher, a gifted storyteller, has created a film he knows nothing about. The short story is only 7 pages long, and a quick net search will allow you to discover on your own why it's one of Fitzgerald's lesser-known works -- it's not that great. In the story, Benjamin is born with the mind of an old man as well, speaking perfectly and full of attitude. The biggest problem is that living life in reverse is not all that different. There's more "arrogance of youth" in a wise 50 year-old mind in the body of a 25 year-old, and it says something about discrimination that Ben is never treated "appropriately" at any age. But in either direction, we live a bit, then we live really fast, then we lose the ones we love, then we lose ourselves. Changing directions is, then, not nearly as enlightening as the film thinks it is. Worse, Fincher admitted that neither he nor screenwriter Eric Roth even READ the story, choosing instead to be inspired by its mere premise. And in ditching one of the main themes (in the film, Ben is born only physically old - his mind is a child), it is robbed of what little substance it had. The final mistake is a key choice that Ben makes in the final hour of this 3-hour (!) tale, which I won’t spoil. I will say that it is devoid of any logic, compassion, or selflessness, and completely derails the intended sentiment, nullifying the greatest statement the movie had to make. It is tragic, then, that everything else in this film is so darn good. It is beautifully photographed, acted, and written -- there is just nothing behind the curtain. Mr. Roth actually wrote this film before his adaptation of the vastly superior "Forrest Gump." I'll bet the bank that he read that book.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 1:04 p.m. CST

    Moriarty leaving AICN? What the hell?

    by GravyAkira

    Had to hold off on most of the review so I can go into this one not really knowing what im about to see, but having read through these talkbacks, im hearing some sad news. You have got to man it out and finish that best of the 90's list. Im sorry to bring it up, but that was one the best reads in years for me. Good luck to you man!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 1:05 p.m. CST

    RowdyRoddyStriper

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Or should I say:<P>BlackCrippler<br> BraneRobot<br> AnimalStructure<br> ThunderBalls?<P>It was only a matter of time before your lunatic ass showed up. Remember kids, RowdyAnimalBraneBalls is the guy who alleges to know Moriarty in person while hiding behind his TB anonymity. A coward who is also responsible for one of the creepiest statements ever posted on AICN. It's so creepy I can't even bring myself to repeat it. Just know that he's a man-sniffer...

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 1:16 p.m. CST

    "TO KNOW THE MAN....IS TO SMELL THE MAN"

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    My favorite AICN line. I was lucky enough to be the TB on that very day.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 1:17 p.m. CST

    RowdyRoddyStriper

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    How are you pal? Are you still jerking off to the fantasy of Mori's musky flop sweat? <p>You my friend....need help.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 1:21 p.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    by Karl Hungus

    I didn't say I was a "hardcore" Fincher fan. I don't fap to The Game or replace all the V's in my sentences with 7's. Having loved the trailer for Button, I was perfectly down for a more lyrical, sentimental personal odyssey from Fincher. What I got instead was a soulless, tiresome film that oddly seems more interested in Oscars than telling a meaningful story. Again, the craft on display is top-notch. But I think Topaz nailed it above with: "Mr. Fincher, a gifted storyteller, has created a film he knows nothing about." I don't think it's a terrible film by any means. I certainly don't hate it. But wow, is it so not the masterpiece that some are lazily claiming. This film's purpose appears more in line with The Color Purple, itself a film made by a supremely talented director who seemed to think that it was simply time to win an Oscar but didn't really earn it until he laid the groundwork with Empire of the Sun and then finally crossed the finish line with Schindler's List. All my two cents, of course.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 1:41 p.m. CST

    DGDB RE:"TO KNOW THE MAN....IS TO SMELL THE MAN"

    by Xiphos_2

    Except for that Equinas TB, that had to be one of the creepiest moment in the history of creepy moments in Talkbacks.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 1:46 p.m. CST

    I haven't watched the movie, but I think

    by comedian_x

    the point of the film (as opposed to the short story) is an exploration of the adage, "youth is wasted on the young." Benjamin gets to be young with the mind of a much older man.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 1:46 p.m. CST

    MNG

    by Xiphos_2

    Could you or one of your aliases answer a question about homewrecker for me? Did he change the the look of his blog? I seem to remember it looking different but I have not laughed at it in a long time so I could be wrong.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Oh good lord, I remember when he said that, too

    by moondoggy2u

    I literally shot milk out my nose when those lines were uttered...

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Oh man, I forgot about that Equinas guy

    by seppukudkurosawa

    I still think he was a fake, though. EQUINE-ass. I mean, come on?

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Everyone who has homewrecker experience

    by moondoggy2u

    needs to sign up for Mori's new site. If for no other reason, there will be something to talk about when homewrecker invariably trolls that corner of the web...<p>I wonder if he still thinks we're all just one guy in a basement somewhere?

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 1:52 p.m. CST

    moondoggy2u

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Thats funny, because BraneRobot literally shot milk out of his penis as he typed those words.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 1:54 p.m. CST

    comedian_x

    by Karl Hungus

    That would have been an excellent point for the film to explore. Sadly, it doesn't. ***SPOILER*** Benjamin opts out of being father to his newborn daughter because he will eventually become a child as she's growing up. He wants her to have a normal father, not a playmate. That could have been GREAT idea for character conflict but the film completely chickens out on that front. Plus, because Benjamin abandons his family, he spends much of that mature mind/young body era off-screen or coasting through montages. When we do get to see him as a boy, his mind has aged into that of an old man with dementia, so the film skips over that could-have-been-fascinating concept you bring up.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 1:55 p.m. CST

    Thanks for the visual, Danny. I'm not hungry, now.

    by moondoggy2u

    By the way, how are you, sir?

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 2 p.m. CST

    Oh, man, Karl. Say it aint so...

    by moondoggy2u

    If that really is the case, then Fincher did indeed gloss over what I assumed would be one of the most interesting aspects, and, frankly, the entire point of this high-concept to begin with, ie, mind and body being at odds with one another.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Xiphos!

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Yes, it appears that zfisk/homewrecker did change the look of his blog and I was honored to be the recipient of his rage coupled with the redesign.<P>How have you been, man? It's been awhile. I hope you were able to enjoy Thanksgiving in good company!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 2:03 p.m. CST

    moondoggy2u

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    I'm good. Where have you been? Haven't seen you around in a few weeks.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 2:07 p.m. CST

    I mean, I understand Benjamin not being born

    by moondoggy2u

    with the mind of an adult. I even like the notion of Ben becoming an infant, despite it being a bit illogical. But Ben, when he is younger, should be allowed to have a wiser, older man's mind, still sharp, mind you, coupled with an ever younger body. If not, then all we're really watching is a film in which someone is dealing with a cripling disorder in their youth, grows stronger, and then runs away when things get more complicated. Where, exactly, is the message in this?

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 2:09 p.m. CST

    This time of the year is usually pretty busy for me

    by moondoggy2u

    Mid-terms require my attention, students need a bit more help, and Thanksgiving arrives to induce Turkey OD.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 2:09 p.m. CST

    This time of the year is usually pretty busy for me

    by moondoggy2u

    Mid-terms require my attention, students need a bit more help, and Thanksgiving arrives to induce Turkey OD.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 2:12 p.m. CST

    Karl, let me ask you this...

    by moondoggy2u

    If this film's main character were instead someone afflicted with a degenerative disease that goes in remission for about fifteen years (say, from 35-50) rather than this aging gimmick, would the story have really changed that much?

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 2:14 p.m. CST

    MNG

    by Xiphos_2

    Thanksgiving was low key because of the Mumbai attacks, security here jumped up. Still, all in all, it was better then being in the hospital like the last two years.<p>Was your Thanksgiving good?

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 2:19 p.m. CST

    Xiphos

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Roger that. I hope those Mumbai attacks don't spark something regional. It's tenuous enough as it is over there.<P>Thanksgiving was low key for me as well. Just some quality time with a few family members living out of state. I ate extremely well and may have even gained a few pounds. With my metabolism, that's not easy to do!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 2:20 p.m. CST

    Shit for Branes returns.

    by HoboCode

    Wow.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 2:22 p.m. CST

    Pitt & Winslet

    by Mosquito March

    Those are the two faces you're going to be seeing in the papers the day after the Oscars. It's their year.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 2:25 p.m. CST

    The new Annie Awards Nominees are out!

    by DerLanghaarige

    http://annieawards.org

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 2:27 p.m. CST

    didn't like forrest gump?

    by TheMcflyFarm

    are you some sort of ass?!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 2:29 p.m. CST

    You've made me want to see this film, Drew.

    by AnnoyYou

    What a wonderful review - yes, how we react to films is dependent upon our experience (or lack of it), but I've never read it so eloquently expressed. Thank you. And the best of luck to you in your new endeavor - I'll bookmark the site now. I will miss your reviews and commentary here, though. It truly is the end of an era for AICN.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 2:50 p.m. CST

    EAU DE MCWEENY

    by BringingSexyBack

    This Christmas, every man can smell like Drew. Free travel bag with every $100 purchase. Only at Macy's.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 2:51 p.m. CST

    HEY XIPHOS ARE YOU GOING TO PAKISTAN

    by BringingSexyBack

    to deliver some fucking whoopass on those Mumbai motherfuckers? Bring nukes!!!!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 3:21 p.m. CST

    RowdyRoddyStripper/ShitforBranes etc.

    by seppukudkurosawa

    Is one of the Scorched Planet peeps who've got a permanent vendetta against Moriarty.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 3:31 p.m. CST

    moondoggy2u

    by Karl Hungus

    Hmmm, interesting question. No, I don't think so. ***SPOILERS*** Another weird part of the film is that no one seriously questions Benjamin's condition. It's not quite magic realism because people do acknowledge that he's aging backwards, and they discuss the issues attached to that phenomenon, but no one ever properly sends him to the doctor once it's established that he really is aging backwards. He never becomes the national headline he would in the real world. Only at the end does a doctor chime in on "young" Benjamin's condition. Even Benjamin himself doesn't really seem that bothered by it. He's surrounded by death for nearly the entire film but rarely seems affected by it, even when he loses those closest to him. He also doesn't seem particularly moved by being a father. He just quietly accepts himself as this curiosity and coasts through life to the end. The more interesting parts of his life are glossed over in narrated montages and instead we get stuck with a lot of the in-between logistical filler of his life. One of the rare occasions when his condition becomes a benefit is when he loses his virginity as an old man with the stamina of a teenager. The prostitute he beds can't keep up. An amusing minute buried in a nearly three hour movie. It's almost like Benjamin is Dave Bowman at the end of 2001, merely observing how mysterious forces are manipulating his life, never once fighting for a destiny of his own design. He's merely along for the ride. A very passive character.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Change is a good thing

    by KnightShift

    If you are not growing, if you are not always able to learn something new, if you are not able to adapt, if you cannot *change*... then you are not truly alive. That said, it will be said to see you leave this place Mori, but I and no doubt many others rejoice that you are getting to expand your horizons. Good luck, and God bless :-)

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Nothing encompasses

    by destruit

    "the whole of the human experience in a mere two and a half hours." Please don't leave behind overstatements like that on your way out. You're too smart for that.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 4:06 p.m. CST

    Great review Mori, as usual.

    by Gabba-UK

    So very sorry that your not going to be on the site. I've always enjoyed and looked forward to your reviews. I wish you all the best and hope that Harry will allow you to keep the dark background and we'll see from time to time on the talkbacks. Take care.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 4:08 p.m. CST

    First Rosie Live!, now THIS.

    by vic twenty

    Mori, we barely knew ye. Actually, turns our we know a lot about you. We are about the same age and station in life from what I can tell. I know this much, leaving the comfort zone is not easy but sometimes we need to scare the shit out of ourselves in order to make our lives better. <p> Good luck!!!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 4:37 p.m. CST

    Great review Mori! ALSO

    by kungfuhustler84

    I gotta say, the stuff you were saying about a movie affecting you differently depending on what time in your life you are at, and it affecting you so much really applies to Synecdoche, New York. I cried for at least a half an hour after seeing that movie, not because it had sad moments, but just because I felt such a strong impact from watching the movie. Everything you said about this movie and time, I would also apply to Syecdoche, New York. I'm not slighting this film at all for that of course, but I just like that there are two movies that are moving people so strongly.<p>This was a great review and I am just as excited now as ever. It's gonna be a better Christmas for movies than I thought.<p>You are a grea sport with all our TB bull shit, a great writer, and it's gonna be lame not having you around as much. Good luck in he future!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 4:38 p.m. CST

    Fare thee well, Mori

    by the dolphins are in the jacuzzi

    When I saw the link for your review, I almost didn't read it because your reviews nearly always have so many spoilers that they ruin a movie for me. But a little voice said to read it anyway, that it wouldn't matter for a movie like this, that plot points wouldn't spoil anything. And I was right. But more importantly, I'm glad I read it so I could find out about your future plans. I feel like this is the ending of an era. I mean, AICN, to me, has always been a family - as dysfunctional as any good family, but as fulfilling as well. And any family that could run the gamut from your considered approach to that of reactionary talkbackers like Danny Glover's Dickblood - well, that's something special. And this site has been more than just a family; it's been an entity in itself. Harry, with his over-the-top grossout sexual metaphors and love for almost any movie, no matter how bad, is the big, loveable heart. Quint is the chutzpah. Massawyrm is the balls. Mr. Beaks is part of the intellect. Capone is one part heart, one part intellect, and one part balls. Yeah, I know, the analogy is wearing pretty thin...and anyway, you get the idea. But you, Mori, you're the soul. Every positive review I read from you, whether I agree or not (and most often, I do) makes me examine a movie that much more closely to see if I might find time in my busy life to see it. Harry has already said that you'll "rue this day," and I couldn't tell if he was genuinely angry or just hurt; but I think most of us will rue this day in one way or another. I'll be sure to go check you out at your new home. And if it's about money, I'll just say that, in your situation, I can understand completely. You've got a family to think of. Just don't forget your other family. Come back for holidays and reunions. Let us know how you're doing. We're all going to miss you here (although I've already got a new bookmark), and I think I speak for most people here when I say it's been one hell of a ride. Goodbye and Godbless.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 4:39 p.m. CST

    sorry that was so awkwardly written

    by kungfuhustler84

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Good luck Mori

    by jedihillis

    I don't post on here much, but I've always appreciated your reviews on here. I think you're ability to balance the "fan boy" and the critic in your reviews has made you a trusty source for info. I'm very much looking forward to this movie and wish you the best of luck.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 4:42 p.m. CST

    See, the problem is that the trailer promised something else

    by moondoggy2u

    We all saw the trailer and we all saw the advertisement for a film in which the character has a fresh perspective on life. Now, according to Karl (and admittedly, he could be anybody)it would seem that this film doesnt actually follow through with this. Instead, save for a special effect gimmick, we get a character who is passive, and, it would seem, is ultimately a coward.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 4:46 p.m. CST

    More problems with the movie

    by RowdyRoddyStriper

    The minute long cooking sequence set to "twist and shout" ending with Pitt and Blanchett doing the twist. It was even more embarrassing than the similar cooking sequence in Spider Man 3. The movie has no internal logic. Every part of Benjamin is aging backwards except his brain? Why is that? Oh wait, I know, it is cause they thought it would be cool to have a young kid with Alzheimer's!! Again, the first hour of the film is good, but it drags after that. It's not even really a movie after that, more a series of sequences that don't add up to anything meaningful or logical, and that is the film's main problem, it doesn't follow it's own rules. It's lazy filmmaking. There is no reason Benjamin would have an old brain except they thought it would be cool. It makes ZERO sense in the film. <p> As far as me "knowing" Moriarty, I never said that. I said I had occasion to meet the fat fuck when I was working for a studio that shall not be named. He stunk like shit. And if any of you were man enough to not be so disingenuous, you'd know that when fat people have b.o., one needn't get too close to catch a malodorous whiff. Shaking their fucking hand will do. If Mori was a nice guy I wouldn't care, but he's a prick who thinks he is talented and that his shit don't stink, no pun intended. See, Harry is a genuinely nice guy. He smells too, but he's actually been a cool cat the few times I met him years ago, not stuck up like Mori, and I assume that is one of the reasons they don't like each other, protestations to the oppostie aside. <p> Maybe Mori will ban me one more time before he shuffles off, maybe not. My bet is he will, because if there's anything stuck up, insecure losers don't like, it's someone taking the fucking piss out of them. Mori is a loser who squelches free expression. Sure, it's his right as this is a private site, but that doesn't mean he isn't a fascist. Certain people just can't take it when others call them out on their bullshit, and Mori is a shining example of that. He will never amount to anything more than what he is, a douchebag internet critic, even though he aspires to so much more. His desperation to be taken seriously by the Hollywood mainstream is so patently obvious and pathetic. Mori, here's a clue, you will NEVER be taken seriously by those people, ever. But keep trying, it'll provide laughs for another month until you disappear to whatever no name site you'll work for next. And Harry is right, you will be back, cause you're a fucking loser.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 4:59 p.m. CST

    Best Wishes!

    by Animation

    Good luck on the new gig. You will be missed.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Rowdy you sound like a jilted stalker

    by IndustryKiller!

    I met Mori a few weeks ago and he couldn't have been more pleasant. He isn't even fat. The dude is fuckin' tall though, wasn't expecting that. You'd think by the way you talk about him he fucked you sister or something. It's creepy.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 5:31 p.m. CST

    Mori's departure

    by DarthCorleone

    I've been haunting this site over ten years now as well. My most vivid early memory of AICN that got me hooked was Harry's August 29, 1997, "Judgment Day" post that mused over how awful the Skynet apocalypse would be, as it would deprive us of so many great upcoming films. (This piece of course culminated in the greatest shared anticipation of all: Episode I.) Moriarty has been an integral part of this site, and it's very difficult to imagine what this place will be without his writing. I had the privilege of seeing him in person since moving out to LA and catching a couple Q&As he did with filmmakers. It was nice to finally put a face to the name. Anyway, I know this isn't the very end, but since this is where the first announcement resides, I wish Drew godspeed and the best for you, your family, and your future professional endeavors.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 5:46 p.m. CST

    IndustryKiller...

    by drew mcweeny

    ... let's face it, whatever Rowdy's problem is has nothing to do with me. He's projecting wildly, and his fairy tales about my "scent" are just disturbing. But, hey, let him have his temper tantrum. Someone will change his diapers soon, and in the meantime, the grownups can all discuss movies.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 5:47 p.m. CST

    RowdyRoddyStriper

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Something far more pathetic than anything in this film is you. Seriously dude, getting a fucking life. <p> Mori is pathetic because he is an internet critic? Uhhhh. Okay than what does that make the guy with the blog where he jerks off to Superman and is read by about a dozen TB'ers that merely visit the blog for a good laugh. Yeah. Thats fucking pathetic. <p>Good luck with the flop sweat fantasies you lame ass piece of dog shit.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 5:52 p.m. CST

    Karl Hungus

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Replace all the V's with 7's....hehehe. Thats funny. <P>The Game is a fantastic film, IMO.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 5:54 p.m. CST

    DON'T FORGET "Rumblings from the lab..." !!

    by MapMan

    Mori, I've always thought your classic opener "Moriarty here with some rumblings from the lab..." was a classic. I don't know why but I've always thought it was a cool way to start a review. I've discussed this with you before on the subject of bringing it back. If you take anything from AICN, that that and use it again!! It's been an honor sir! You're a class act and I hope to keep reading your columns for years to come.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 6:06 p.m. CST

    MapMan, don't let's get on the subject of bringing back slogans

    by seppukudkurosawa

    I still wake up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat with the words, "Y'all know me...know what I do." Whatever diet Quint was on when he came up with that, I'm glad he didn't stick with it. Yeesh!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 6:18 p.m. CST

    RowdeyRoddyStriper

    by Xiphos_2

    Give it a rest hoss, you and and your wierd obsesssion with Moriartys man scent is troubling. You sir are one fucked up mansniffer.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 6:37 p.m. CST

    Mori 1996-2008

    by medicinaluser

    Was like one of the main reasons to come to this site and with him gone it will be a lesser place to visit. <BR><BR> All the best with HitFix may need to hit you up with an email as my Wireless card is playing up <BR><BR>It's like the beatles all over again ...:(

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 6:59 p.m. CST

    Considering the film cost $US 170 mill, it'll probably flop

    by Wayne6000

    Going by some negative comments made about the film by some other US talkbackers who've also seen it, I think this will possibly flop. Paramount and Warner Bros went halves on it to minimise the risk, but still it went way over budget, for what it could've been made for, plus it's also 2 hours and 45 minutes.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 6:59 p.m. CST

    I know how to make Rowdy like you again, Mori.

    by Zarles

    Just put the lotion in the basket. See? Not difficult at all.<p><p>Christ, what a fucking psychopath. Get a grip, crazy pants.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 7:08 p.m. CST

    SCENT OF A MORI

    by BringingSexyBack

    I can't stand it anymore I need to smell you Drew!!!!!!! Send me your undershirt!!!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 7:08 p.m. CST

    Good luck Mori

    by jambone

    Great review. You writing often veers from overly pretentious to gushing like a little girl from the Jonas Bros., but I still read it. How you liked The Punisher, I'll never know, but to each his own. Best of luck.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 7:09 p.m. CST

    No NO No

    by hallmitchell

    Moriarty - you need AICN. AICN needs you. You are the best reviewer of film around. Don't go. Why are you going? It's like Lennon/McCartney, Tyler/Perry. None of those people were the same without each other. Would you be able to look back at your years at AICN? The films, The scandals and do an overview. 2006 Was your best year at AICN. Great review by the way of B.B.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 7:12 p.m. CST

    ROWDYSHITFORBRANES IS COMPLAINING ABOUT SQUELCHING FREE EXPRESSI

    by BringingSexyBack

    Yet his misery-laden posts remain here for all to witness. And I recall that he was never banned, but in anticipation of a (deserved) banning, lit into Mori and bid us all farewell forever. Only to return a couple of hours later. And now in the form of another username. <P> Drew, looks like someone just don't know how ta quit ya.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 7:12 p.m. CST

    RowdyRoddyStriper = Big Fat ZERO

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Seriously.<P>What a fucking creep.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 7:26 p.m. CST

    BTW...

    by drew mcweeny

    ... I didn't mean to only respond to the troll. It's just a busy day of screenings, and I'm getting ready to take my dad to meet Clint Eastwood at a GRAN TORINO cocktail party. I just wanted to thank everyone for the kind feedback, and assure you of two things. <P>First, AICN is my family. I love these guys, and no matter what, I'll always be in touch and hanging around to some degree. Just try and get rid of me. <P>Second, I'm going to be doing the same stuff at the new site. If you like what I do, that won't change, and if you hate what I do, you'll have a brand new way to hate me.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 7:53 p.m. CST

    Cheerio Moriarty and fare thee well.

    by G100

    Always enjoyed your reviews. Good luck.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 7:55 p.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    by Karl Hungus

    I agree, The Game is a very strong film, perhaps Fincher's most underrated. In many ways, I see The Game as being a far more personal film to Fincher than Benjamin Button. Some people might see The Game as a gimmicky film, a cinematic puzzle to be solved once and discarded. Frankly, that's how I feel about Button. It's simply not a life worth retro-living, IMHO.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 8:03 p.m. CST

    Good luck with everything Mori!

    by the milf lover

    it sucks that you're leaving. One less voice of reason, and one less voice who can use proper grammar. Farewell!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 8:13 p.m. CST

    BSB

    by Xiphos_2

    Nope, I'm in North East Africa. If I'm not a fool at this map reading stuff, I think its kind of far away.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 8:20 p.m. CST

    Mori

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    But will there be a TB sort of thing so I can urinate in the mouth of shit-heels like Rowdy? I love it when that fucker gargles my piss.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 8:29 p.m. CST

    BraneRobot! RowdyRoddydumbshit!

    by toadkillerdog

    You motarded piece of buffalo shit! How you doing man? Still sniffin?

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 8:30 p.m. CST

    Rowdy is JJ Abrams - LOL

    by hallmitchell

    Hey guys why don't you bake Moriarty a cake from the Xmas shopping guide. The sperm cake. LOL

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 8:31 p.m. CST

    If Not JJ Rowdy is

    by hallmitchell

    Rob Zombie.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 8:32 p.m. CST

    if Rowdy is JJ, he needs to suck my cock....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    ....for being the only guy on this site saying nice things about that fucker. Gulp motherfucker!!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 8:32 p.m. CST

    Ciao Mori - Good luck

    by toadkillerdog

    Before you go, you should reinstate Liberal warrior so that he can destroy that poopy head RowdyRoddyAfraidOfStrippers

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 8:34 p.m. CST

    BSB, did Morbie get banned?

    by toadkillerdog

    If not, he should be slinking out of branerobots stained underwear very soon. It will be like old trolls week!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 8:35 p.m. CST

    All the best Mr McWeeny!

    by FILMFUNK

    Can't read the main body of your review! i want this one like all Finchers masterpieces to hit me spoilerfree but the last paragraph was very touching. Good luck with pastures new, i will check out the new site and can't wait for this movie!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 9:13 p.m. CST

    mori retrospective

    by NotMalcolmReed

    i've loved mori's reviews. always thought he deserved his own archive like Harry. even the controversies like being banned from the ranch, the evisceration of jj abrams' superman script, telling us it is wrong to read preview scripts, the massa feud. they were good times all. i hope hitfix gives mori more discipline so there's more of him to read.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 9:35 p.m. CST

    XIPHOS, TOADKILLAZ

    by BringingSexyBack

    Xiphos - It's hard to keep up with your continent-hopping. As always, stay safe, but if you happen to get a few bad guys in your sight, happy hunting!! <P> Toadkillaz - Morbid disappeared many moons ago, and his last words here were "the economy is just fine". <P> I think he's since lost his job and can't afford Internet access. Poor schmuck. At least he has his Zohan DVD to keep him amused.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 9:39 p.m. CST

    No offense

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    But I'll be glad not to have to read about his amazement at his kid's every mundane move. Running across one of those references in a review is like hitting a landmine. No bueno.<p>Also Moriarty, though one of the more capable writers technically on this site, seemed to have more of a superiority complex than anyone else. I appreciated his willingness to mix it up with TBers at times but he came off as condescending in many of those instances.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 9:39 p.m. CST

    No offense

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    But I'll be glad not to have to read about his amazement at his kid's every mundane move. Running across one of those references in a review is like hitting a landmine. No bueno.<p>Also Moriarty, though one of the more capable writers technically on this site, seemed to have more of a superiority complex than anyone else. I appreciated his willingness to mix it up with TBers at times but he came off as condescending in many of those instances.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 9:42 p.m. CST

    RUSH LIMBAUGH PRAISES HILLARY CLINTON NOM AS "BRILLIANT"

    by BringingSexyBack

    This is your brain on drugs. Don't do drugs.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 9:43 p.m. CST

    " and I'm getting ready to take my dad to meet Clint Eastwood"

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    Behold! Lord of the geeks. Congrats, buddy. I guess meeting Clint Eastwood wouldn't be as cool without waving it in front of a bunch anonymous internet movie nerds.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 9:46 p.m. CST

    I'M NOT A CLINT EASTWOOD FAN

    by BringingSexyBack

    Except for Letters from Iwo Jima and Flags of our Fathers.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 10:28 p.m. CST

    Condescending and contemptuous? Yep...

    by Billyeveryteen

    But always a great read. Shine on you crazy diamond.<p>As for Fincher's latest? Can't wait.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Dropping names on the way out the door

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    Why am I belaboring this point? Because I'm stuck here. Oh wait.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 10:39 p.m. CST

    Shit, you kids are funny!

    by watch_the_world_burn

    Thanks for the thorough review Mori, you've enticed me to go see the movie. Thanks for all the reviews actually, you are one of my fave reads. Cheers!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 10:42 p.m. CST

    yeah....Clint Eastwood can eat a dick.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 10:43 p.m. CST

    Yourhe chatroom just about every night

    by DRACULA_WANTS_THE_AMULET

    Imagine how much of your life you are losing in there... <P> All the power to you on the new place. <P> Personally me... I think this Internet Review and Inside look stuff is coming to an end. <P> Everything has a phase. Someone corporate someone who knows how to push smallers down. Someone like that is going to get in get bigger access, and independent places like this will lose the traffic and die. Walmart theory my man. There will be a Walmart review site one day mark my words! IGN sold out and really they are the kings of video game reviews. Sure not everyone favors them, but they get the most traffic. If there was an IGN like AICN site- This place would be in trouble. Yes IGN does the movie thing, but it doesn't do it exclusively. All I'm trying to say is Walmarts, and Kurt Cobain are on the way to kill the Big hair days.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 10:44 p.m. CST

    fuck this place doesn't even have an edit button

    by DRACULA_WANTS_THE_AMULET

    Yourhe... Goddamned dark room and laptop!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 11:09 p.m. CST

    Fuck! I just had the ending spoiled for me!

    by half vader

    thanks. Thanks a lot arsehole. I knew I should have avoided the TBs like I did with Wall-E.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 11:13 p.m. CST

    DannyGlovers, you becoming an official writer would be

    by half vader

    cool, because we need some funny, angry bile being spewed outside the actual TBs. <p> But It would be Hallenbeck you'd be replacing, not Mori. Remember old Joe?

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 11:14 p.m. CST

    Rush Limbaugh is a troll plain and simple

    by wash

    The day after the election he was saying it was great that Obama prevented Clinton having a spot in the White House, and would be making a mistake to bring her in. He can't even keep his own BS straight. How does someone so rich keep getting his wives to divorce him? Oh yeah, because he's a fat miserable idiot that loves the sound of his voice. Even his cats hate him.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 11:15 p.m. CST

    The Curious Case Of Me Not Caring About This Film

    by Puddleglum

    I don't know why, but as much as I wanted to be interested in this film, it continues to elude my interest. <p> NOT eluding my interest is the news of Mori leaving. Holy shitballs!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 11:17 p.m. CST

    DGDB vs Massawyrm - I wanna read competing reviews

    by Puddleglum

    DGDB has made me laugh more times than I can count this year. I'd like to see a couple of his reviews go head to head with Massa, who, generally, seems to have gotten a bit soft lately.

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 11:21 p.m. CST

    Hey Dickblood!

    by TheMcflyFarm

    Nobody tells The Eastwood to eat a dick!

  • Dec. 1, 2008, 11:51 p.m. CST

    All things come to pass

    by speed

    Whether it's for the good or not is not important. The change must happen. Harry & Mori have made a great double team. Harry is film geek born and bred. This is in his blood. But Mori through sheer force of will has created himself into something that he can be very proud of. <P>I've always liked the way he would pick up on stuff that nobody else mentions. A great example is the recent Summer Heights High Review. <P>And along with Harry's Rolling Road Show review of Once upon a time in the west, Mori presents 25 years ago is the single best writing this site has seen. The E.T. review was something special. Nordling take a bow and Mori thanks for presenting it. <P>But was it ever finished?

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 12:02 a.m. CST

    speed -- did you just say Harry and Mori made a great "double te

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    with a straight face?

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 12:03 a.m. CST

    double team....fuck

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 12:35 a.m. CST

    Too soon!

    by Fa Fa Fooey

    Moriarity 2: Electric Boogaloo.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 12:47 a.m. CST

    Sad to see you go Mori

    by Ironthorman

    Good luck, I'll be checkin you out at the new site. This feels like an epic loss for THIS site, but I hope it brings you good fortune.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 2:17 a.m. CST

    Mori, you'd better review WATCHMEN!

    by grievenom

    I watched you enthusiastically cover Watchmen on G4 for Comic-Con, and I've been looking forward to your take on the film when you finally get to see it. Hope to read your review here when the film drops. Give me your word!

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 2:51 a.m. CST

    Fincher Couldn't Read 7 Pages?

    by christian66

    If that's true, it reveals my problems with him and is typical of Hollywood to the extreme. Fincher is a brilliant technician with no emotional core. And try as his devoted fans contend, there's no "there" there. But really, not bothering to read the Fitzgerald story you're making into a near 200 million dollar film reeks of the worst kind of arrogance. And lack of insight. This film looks like more Fincher technical porn.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 3:01 a.m. CST

    So now I have to go to HitFlix...

    by Negator76

    ... to read a paragraph of Moriarty explaining why he missed a deadline? Hear that, Mori? It's the sound of crickets chirping. Get used to it. I used to like the guy OK, but he lost me when he praised X3 and Indy 4. Plus the incessant whining about how he couldn't make deadlines. Whaa, whaaa... Fuck him. Harry, promote Beaks. The guy is a fucking terrific writer, and his critical instincts are fucking spot-on, never unclouded by sentiment.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 3:04 a.m. CST

    Never 'CLOUDED' by sentiment, is what I meant..

    by Negator76

    ...Beaks is good. Mori only gives good reviews when he's not on the man-rag. Oh, or when he doesn't have laundry to do. Or needs to get his tires rotated. Seriously, that guy has been a useless sack of shit for the longest time. Wrote a great review for 'Spider-man 2' though. He and the Spidey franchise seem to have peaked at the same time.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 3:50 a.m. CST

    Negator...

    by drew mcweeny

    ... your wish is my command. Beaks is the new West Coast Editor of AICN. Huzzah! Kudos and huzzah!

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 4:26 a.m. CST

    Really, Mori?

    by moondoggy2u

    Hey, get some sleep, man! Its early in the AM, yet.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 4:31 a.m. CST

    This shit is funny

    by TheMandrakeRoot

    I've always liked reading your articles Moriarty, and I've always thought you have fairly good taste when it comes to films. It definitely won't be the same with you gone. But that being said, the amount of dick-riding in this thread is astronomical. I mean shit, life goes on. Seems like half these cats are just trying to squeeze out a gig at your new site. Don't let em fool ya! No, but seriously, best of luck with your new home. Cheers.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 4:40 a.m. CST

    Who cares when AVATAR is fucking our eyeballs in 2009?

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    nobody

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 5:14 a.m. CST

    Motoko...

    by drew mcweeny

    ... I've been waiting for you to point that out, brotha. Fucking our eyeballs, indeeeed.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 5:59 a.m. CST

    This site = officially dead

    by JoeSixPack

    Sorry to say, after 10 years of frequent visits. Bye, Mort.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 6:26 a.m. CST

    But, but, . . . was it because of us kids, Mori?

    by CreasyBear

    Did we do something bad, is that why you're leaving? Our huge redheaded mommy really loves you, she really does, she's just confused now! Please don't go, Daddy! What about therapy? Counseling!?

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 6:49 a.m. CST

    Hush now, CreasyBear.

    by moondoggy2u

    Mori will still be here two weekends out of the month. Why, before you even know it, next weekend will be just around the corner.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 7:56 a.m. CST

    Great review

    by henrydalton

    I think this is the first time I've left a talkback just to say how great a review was, but this one was a perfect mix of the well written and the uncommonly heartfelt. Kudos Mori, you will be missed on these pages.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 8 a.m. CST

    Well, that sucks.

    by rev_skarekroe

    Not the movie, of course. I'm sure that'll be ok.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 9:37 a.m. CST

    Beaks as West coast editor?

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Are you fucking kidding? Fuck man. Should have brought in some new blood. I really really can't stand Beaks reviews. Ewww.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 9:59 a.m. CST

    Good luck, big guy.

    by JDanielP

    And I'm looking forward to seeing BUTTON for myself.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 10:22 a.m. CST

    I am kind of hoping this movie is a hit.

    by Cotton McKnight

    Whatever fictitious name they call this condition in the movie, I want to say I have it so I can order off the 55+ menu at Denny's. If this movie is a big hit and everyone knows what i'm talking about, I think I could pull this off.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Anyone see the episode of Fringe that dealt with this?

    by Cotton McKnight

    There was a 80 year old manbaby born on the show. That was messed up. Also, I know where you're coming from Moriarty. I have been thinking about the movie Big Fish lately precisely for the reasons you mentioned. I am curious to see how this movie affects me. Thanks for the review!

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 10:30 a.m. CST

    You guys don't like Beaks?!

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    That's odd. Beaks has been posting the most interesting and solid stuff on this site since he made his return. And while I felt AICN took a step forward when he came back, I fear that it will take a step back with Mori's departure.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 11:01 a.m. CST

    HitFix...

    by The Eskimo

    ...thank god a place to get away from all you FUCKERS above! Sianora geeks and nerds...I'm sitting at the "cool" table in the lunch room now! (ps c-ya mori)

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 11:14 a.m. CST

    no I don't like Beaks....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    His reviews read like instruction manuals to microwaves. He makes movies sound like an unpleasant chore. He may be a good writer, but that doesn't mean I give a shit what he has to say. <p>Mori was the best thing about this site. This is a sad week for all of us.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 11:30 a.m. CST

    Mori, you've always been a favorite

    by NoHubris

    You've helped to put the cool in AICN.<p>Sorry to see you go but I wish you all the luck in the world in your new thing.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 11:45 a.m. CST

    why the fuck does Gump come to mind with this?

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    I don't fucking get it. Thats the last thing I would think of when I saw this trailer. Why....because he travels and goes on a boat? So Legends of The Fall reminded you of Gump as well?

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 11:59 a.m. CST

    What ever happened to MiraJeff?

    by Garbageman33

    Did Uwe Boll beat the reviewing abilities out of him?

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 12:02 p.m. CST

    It really is Fincher Gump.

    by Karl Hungus

    When you see the movie, you'll understand. ***SPOILERS*** It's not just certain obvious similarities like his job on a boat working for a crazy, outspoken captain, or him having a baby with his childhood sweetheart, or traveling the globe throughout important moments in world history, or going away on a long spiritual walkabout to figure things out, or that cutting edge visual effects are used to enhance his journey/create the gimmick, etc. It's the overall tone, the music, the narration, the structure ad even little details such as the recurring feather in Gump is matched by the recurring hummingbird in Button.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Karl Hungus

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Wow. Interesting. It really is similar? I thought that was just bullshit...

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 12:19 p.m. CST

    Fincher Gump Pt. 2

    by Karl Hungus

    The similarities are there if you want to see them. If you don't, and have bought into the film hook, line and sinker, you can probably find ways to differentiate. For me? The similarities (especially given that both Gump and Button's scrips were written by the same person) are crystal clear and disappointing.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 12:20 p.m. CST

    a busy day of screenings---

    by The Reluctant Austinite

    A busy day of screenings. Busy. Watching movies. Then Mori's exhausted ass has to take his dad to meet Clint Eastwood. Mori's life is rough, isn't it? Just kidding; I love ya brother. Good luck with the new gig. I'm glad you'll be keeping one foot in the AICN nest. I'm afriad if you come to BNAT this year you'll have already seen all the premiere screenings! Anyway, I hope you'll be there as we've not really formally hung out and I'd like to shake your hand and congratulate you in person. Keep up the good work at the HitFix.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 12:24 p.m. CST

    I don't think the Gump thing will bother me...

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    ....I buy copies of Gump on DVD just to scrape my hemorrhoids with the disc.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Garbageman33

    by just pillow talk

    He no longer reviews for them nor has black box privileges anymore...<p>http://www.aintitcool.com/talkback_display/37000<p>Now his hobby is hurling whenever he gets into a threatening situation.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Sounds like a bore

    by Eyegore

    But I was only able to read the first half of Mori's super-long spoilerific review before I realized that it was only half over and I needed to get on with my life. I'm guessing the reason Mori is leaving AICN is to earn an actual paycheck, so good luck with that Mori, you deserve it. All the regular contributers here (hercules, quint, massawym, etc) deserve it. Later.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 1:16 p.m. CST

    Great review

    by imascooby1985

    at least until the end when I got punched in the gut with moriarty's revelation. You were AICN's best reviewer and the main reason I keep coming to this site. I will definitely be checking you out at your new site and hope you enjoy it there as much as you seem to have enjoyed it here. Good luck Mori.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Thanks, Just Pillow Talk

    by Garbageman33

    I can't believe I missed that. Wow. As I read it, I just kept picturing MiraJeff climbing in a car with Moriarty and Massawyrm and Harry emerging from the backseat to choke him with piano wire.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 2:59 p.m. CST

    Knobules

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Its okay. I now see it is justified. Before I thought it was just a dumb comparison because its the same writer.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 3:31 p.m. CST

    "Magical realism"

    by skimn

    Structure-wise it may be similar to Gump, but if it is emotionally closer to Big Fish, count me in as a big sucker. It struck a chord with me and my relationship with my late father. So if Fincher can orchestrate emotion as well as he can visuals, I'm there.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 3:45 p.m. CST

    The perfect Christmas Film!

    by conspiracy

    In a seasons so far filled with murder, terrorism, Wal-Mart door greeters tramped by run amok shoppers and a government (Bush and Obama) bound and determined to drive us into the ground...I REALLY need to see a heartbreaking, tear jerking tale about our inevitable mortality and oh so short time on this rock.....I'll Pass. I will however miss Mori's reviews...don't always agree with them...but at least the guy can write without covering himself in Chocolate Pussy Juice.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Wow, I totally forgot about MiraJeff!

    by DerLanghaarige

    I once sent him an e-mail, because of something that he wrote and made me a little bit angry and he sent a very nice e-mail back. I don't think that someone like Massawyrm would ever do that. (Of course I may be wrong. I never sent anything to Massawyrm, because I don't read his stuff.)<br> I wonder if MiraJeff will be at HitFix too...

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 4:12 p.m. CST

    Punisher?

    by A-COD

    Who do I have to blow to get a Punisher review? It screened last night in LA, right? Moriarty where you there? Devin from Chud loved it but I need a second opinion.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 5:15 p.m. CST

    Yeah, where are the Punisher reviews on here?

    by DerLanghaarige

    There are already some surprisingly positive reviews on the web and I would like to know if Lions Gate spent lots of money on plants or if it is really good.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 7:13 p.m. CST

    Punisher looks fucking awesome.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 7:14 p.m. CST

    I like how he says the film isn't magical realism...

    by Ravetin

    ...then describes exactly how the film qualifies as magical realism.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 8:34 p.m. CST

    Mori

    by Kloipy

    You lend a certain gravitas to this site and your reviews will be sorely missed. I appreciate your reviews along with Vern's as the best on this site. I will follow you to the new site, but you will be missed here

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 8:35 p.m. CST

    Okay, so besides the Arthur Conan Doyle estate,

    by CreasyBear

    who owns the Moriarty tag? Will you take the pseudonym with you, or will it be Drew at HitFix? Maybe AICN will keep the rights and suddenly there will be a new Moriarty, but his reviews will sound oddly like an Entertainment Tonight stooge.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 8:42 p.m. CST

    Harry should hire Scott Holleran from BoxOfficeMojo,

    by CreasyBear

    so every single review of every single movie can describe how all the films suck viciously and aren't worth shit.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 9:19 p.m. CST

    Cool

    by Cobbio

    Thanks, Mori. Great review. I've been wondering about this film for a while, and I'm glad Fincher smacked his triple to center field. I'll check it out on Christmas.<p> Also, I've enjoyed your scoops, reviews, and articles on AICN for many years. Good luck with your new fixins! I'll check it out when I'm not on AICN.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 9:26 p.m. CST

    I love this site--it's A TRAIN WRECK...

    by Bob Cryptonight

    ...and Mori is the conductor! So I will miss his "Creative Writing 101" style and his various self-worth issues which are often cloaked in his posts. This is the end of an era. Good luck with the new site, but it just won't be the same reading your stuff over there. Oh, and by the way: does your self-imposed BAN ON WRITING ABOUT STAR WARS carry over to the new place?

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 10:23 p.m. CST

    This movie doesn't come out until Dec. 25th.

    by thebearovingian

    That would be Christmas Day. Stop talking about it.

  • Dec. 2, 2008, 11:23 p.m. CST

    Um..

    by Karl Hungus

    If you don't want to be spoiled about a film that doesn't open until Christmas, why are you reading a review and TB that clearly has a "SPOILERS" tag on it? Instead of us not talking about it, how about you stop reading about it? I dunno, maybe that makes too much sense...

  • Dec. 3, 2008, 12:25 a.m. CST

    Spoiler!!! You know I heard the movie ends with...

    by The Dum Guy

    The reveal that Bruce Willis was dead the whole time, and HE'S a ghost.... weird, huh.

  • Dec. 3, 2008, 3:02 a.m. CST

    Just tried to sign up for HitFix...

    by Bob Loblaw Law Blog

    and it said my email address was already taken...<p>Were the email addresses of AICN talkbackers copied over to the HitFix beta list?

  • Dec. 3, 2008, 3:42 a.m. CST

    I dunno Karl,

    by half vader

    While Mori had a warning he certainly didn't outright spill what happens in the END, which is what happened here in the TBs WITHOUT warning. And then people thought it was just open slather because the beans had already been spilled. Which is moronic. Maybe that's what Bear is getting at (care to expand Bear?), which would be fair enough. If Mori had spoiled it, fair enough, absolutely, we get what we deserve. But that's not what happened, and there are probably plenty who came into this one because of the leaving thing (which probably should've been a separate post). <p> And it's also fair enough to say fuck anyone who spoils the ending before the bloody thing has even come out just in general. You're just so cooler-than-thou.

  • Dec. 3, 2008, 4:06 a.m. CST

    Bob Loblaw...

    by drew mcweeny

    ... absolutely not. I wouldn't do that to the AICN readership. You guys are free to read HitFix or not... I'm not going to strongarm anyone or use any mailing lists from here. I think we may just have a glitch right now. We are still just gearing up the beta, so bear with us.

  • Dec. 3, 2008, 8:31 a.m. CST

    Scott Baio is using your email address

    by Garbageman33

    Seeing as how you're using his name. Seems fair to me.

  • Dec. 3, 2008, 8:53 a.m. CST

    half vader

    by Karl Hungus

    There's a SPOILER tag on this article and absolutely no mention of Moriarty's departure in the headline. Anyone who proceeds beyond a SPOILER tag has been clearly warned and are here at their own risk, having chosen to expose themselves to potentially any and all spoilers regarding this film. So your insulting "cooler-than-thou" comment is not warranted, especially since I made no personal attack against Bear -- who, by the way, made no specific complaint against discussing the film's ending. He wrongly demanded that people stop talking about the film ENTIRELY until December 25. I merely pointed out his (and now your) flawed logic.

  • Dec. 3, 2008, 10:29 a.m. CST

    MiraJeff's exit stage right was an ugly thing

    by JackRabbitSlim

    Well, not perhaps as ugly as the image of Joe Hallenbitch being swapped around County for cartons of Kools, but ugly nonetheless. <p> Kids, you'll prolly get fired/forced out of a job sometime in your life - just walk away - going out in a blaze of petulant glory ain't worth it - it comes across as rather pathetic.

  • Dec. 3, 2008, 1:32 p.m. CST

    No Karl

    by half vader

    You didn't read my post properly. People are coming in here because word is spreading about Mori, even as you say there's no mention in the head. They're coming in to comment on not just BButton but Mori (that much is obvious by the number of Mori-related posts). Yes, my theory that that was what Bear might be talking about, and I even called on him to clarify. I don't see how that's anything like a definitive statement on my part, but whatever. I see your point about the "entirely" thing and just offered up a theory that seemed well, less ludicrous than that. 90% of the point of AICN and the talkbacks is being excited about films and speculating together before their release. Even if you do read spoilers, I think it's fair to say revealing what happens in the END of the movie is on another level of the arsehole meter. <p> That's right. The spoiler tag was on the article. I already said that and admitted that if you read it you deserved what you got. Remember? However Mori did NOT spoil the ending and reveal what happens specifically to BB. Right? And neither did you. I was actually talking about fuckholes like Rowdy Roddy Striper. No spoiler warning on HIS post, was there? That cooler-than-thou crack was aimed at fuckwits like him, not you. Why would you take offence?? Can you see how I'm getting at separate things here? Spoiler tag on the article. No spoiler warning on arsehole TB post. With me? It's one thing if people discuss what has been revealed in the article, fair game. This was something else. Then there's the separate thing of me positing a theory about Bear to you because I didn't think it could possibly mean what you thought it did. Cheers.

  • Dec. 3, 2008, 2:03 p.m. CST

    Garbageman33

    by Bob Loblaw Law Blog

    That must be why I keep getting booty call emails from Erin Moran...

  • Dec. 3, 2008, 2:08 p.m. CST

    No Vader

    by Karl Hungus

    I simply took offense at the "cooler than thou" comment because it was made in a post addressed to me. "YOU'RE so cooler than thou" (emphasis mine) is what you wrote to me. If you had a beef with someone else, address your post to that person. Thanks.

  • Dec. 3, 2008, 3:28 p.m. CST

    Grats Morts!

    by Mr.LordBronco

    Moving on...is a special thing. When it leaves me out of this place. I already registered for hitflix. Congats again

  • Dec. 3, 2008, 5:30 p.m. CST

    Whoa there, Karl!

    by half vader

    Yes, it was in a post directed to you and to everyone in general. But that comment came directly after "anyone who spoils the ending". I can see where the confusion comes in. We've got a bit of a difference of opinion in grammar I guess. Your reply is a bit testy though! I didn't realise "one on one" posts weren't still part of the general discussion. No wonder no-one reads my multi-part ramblings! I kid. And I get what you're saying. Hope it's all cool now.

  • Dec. 3, 2008, 5:56 p.m. CST

    Forget Mr. Beaks and Moriarity, give me more Hercules!

    by OBSD

    That guy is top notch! Cutting and pasting shit from Entertainment Weekly or The Hollywood Reporter or Variety as the height of research, writing an infinite amount of articles that have the even the slimmest connection to Joss Whedon and (let us not forget) having endless links to Amazon is the bestest! Actually, I'm just jealous. Seriously. If I had the opportunity to do what Herc does, it would sure beat working for a living. Good luck, Mori. I've been reading this site (and your blogs when you have them) for 10 years and I even caught watched those episodes you co-wrote on Masters of Horror to show my invisible support. I wish you only the best in your future site. Now buy this DVD boxed set! Vastly encheapened! From Amazon.com!

  • Dec. 3, 2008, 7 p.m. CST

    Drew - a question?

    by catlettuce4

    Reference the Real Moriarty, does this date from when some guy set up a spoof website pretending to be you? I can't remember the details exactly.

  • Dec. 3, 2008, 10:27 p.m. CST

    Wow. Now That’s Something I didn’t Expect

    by Evil Chicken

    Thank you Moriarty, or rather Mr. Drew McWeeny. You’ve been the gold standard and I have always enjoyed your take on all things geek as well as your use of narrative (i.e. you write good.). You will be missed. Excellent review BTW. God bless and keep on keepin’ on.

  • Dec. 4, 2008, 1:31 a.m. CST

    thebearovingian responds! *SPOILER*

    by thebearovingian

    Never said anything about spoilers.<p>I'm shocked that anyone here believed I thought I had even a shred of authority on AICN to command that TBers stop talking about Benjamin Button. I wrote what I wrote. That's my post. Interpret it as a serious demand if you so choose.<p>half vader, it's a pleasure, sir.<p>I recently wrote a post in Latauro's Australia review TB and said, "Hugh Jackman's Australian accent is SO phony! I can do better than that!" and wouldn't you believe that I got rebuked and impugned by a few TBers. One guy was so upset that I wasn't being attacked left and right for my idiocy. Maybe he was the one left out of the joke. There are no refunds, folks. They're not always gold. Hot damn, I've become a lightning rod!

  • Dec. 4, 2008, 10:59 a.m. CST

    I wont see this

    by livingwater

  • Dec. 4, 2008, 1:27 p.m. CST

    Bear

    by Karl Hungus

    OK, so you're saying you shouldn't be taken seriously. Got it. Noted. Moving on.

  • Dec. 4, 2008, 3:19 p.m. CST

    Well, nothing's absolute, Karl.

    by thebearovingian

    Nevertheless, I leave it in your hands.

  • Dec. 4, 2008, 8:21 p.m. CST

    Ha ha Bear, I remember that!

    by half vader

    The Hugh Jackman thing. I must admit, sometimes I miss the forest for the trees even though I post deadpan stuff myself. God knows if there were both an italics option and a (limited window) edit feature (to stop renegging after the fact), there'd be a lot less misunderstanding. The Jackman thing was clever because it threw into relief that people find excuses to hate Kidman just to support that they basically just don't like her in the first place. Yes HJ was every bit as broad and ridiculous - but when EITHER of them had more than a couple of lines and therefore were driving the performance (as opposed to Luhrmann), BOTH of them tried to tone it down. <p> As for italics and edit function, it just gets more blatant by the day with the way Harry won't even offer an explanation as to why he will update the site but still not something so basic. Makes it a bit of a laughing-stock actually. In over 10 years of coming here I've never seen him defend it. Maybe I missed it... <p> <p> Which leads me to: Mori, will the new site have these basic mod-cons? If so, count me in.

  • Dec. 4, 2008, 8:25 p.m. CST

    Katrina

    by half vader

    I've gotta say the Katrina thing rubs me a little the wrong way, even though I can see the metaphor. Around the same time there were other disasters elsewhere on the planet, with hundreds of times the amount dying. But hey, they weren't in America, so y'know, if hundreds of thousands die in a similar disaster in say, India... whatever. That's "over there". No movies about that stuff. I'm NOT saying Katrina wasn't bloody awful and that every life lost wasn't important. I am saying that it smacks of hubris to self-flagellate by inserting it into movies (and whatever that dodgy cop series was called - you can't tell me that wasn't capitalising on people's death and misfortune) when 99% of Americans don't know and don't care that much worse was happening at the same time. Putting them in movies generates a sort of false history where it seems like these things happened and the others didn't if that makes any sense. <p> I'm saying that those things are awful no matter WHERE they happen, and your average American Joe being completely unaware that the same and worse is happening elsewhere is a bit galling. Then when Joe watches stuff like this it seems to tell him that it happened in (America's) microcosm. I think it's fair to be at odds about that. Especially when such a specific thing is built into - a fable/allegory. It's not like Greengrass' movie, that's another thing entirely. Surely it would work as well for it to just be the metaphorical storm without actually being specific? I don't see why it needs to be in there as it also implies that it's a moment in international history on the same level as say, WW2. I know the "less people died" thing is a slippery argument that probably should be steered clear of, but hopefully people will get what I'm trying to articulate without a kneejerk flamejob coming back at me. Just for your info, I have American family but don't live there at the moment. <p> And what WAS that cop show called? I think it got cancelled.

  • Dec. 5, 2008, 12:52 a.m. CST

    brad pitt with old balls, i cant wait

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

  • Dec. 5, 2008, 12:57 a.m. CST

    i think "katrina" is in this because of mr pitt

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    otherwise he would not have done it - seeing as how he moved to new orleans to be part of the reconstruction and all

  • Dec. 5, 2008, 12:58 a.m. CST

    "inglorious bastards" ends with "katrina" too

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

  • Dec. 5, 2008, 8:28 a.m. CST

    That's interesting Jimmy

    by half vader

    The Pitt thing sounds more like urban Legend/tabloid join-the-dots to me, but I didn't know that about Bastards...

  • Dec. 5, 2008, 8:45 p.m. CST

    Sorry to see you go, Moriarty

    by DoctorStopMo

    You had the best 'callsign' of any of the AICN regulars, and were probably my favorite reviewer. AICN will not be the same without you.

  • Dec. 5, 2008, 8:47 p.m. CST

    Katrina is irrelevant in the film

    by Karl Hungus

    ***SPOILERS*** The most annoying thing about the Katrina segments is how the film's momentum keeps getting derailed by having to go back to the present in order to remind us that yes, we're reading a diary and isn't the life of Benjamin Button so charming and whimsical and dramatic and heartfelt and touching and PUUUUKKKKKKEEEEE!!!!! It's also used as sort of a ticking clock/danger element as if Blanchet and Ormond are going to have to evacuate before they finish reading the diary together. (I wish they HAD been evacuated, and the diary lost in the storm.) There's another overused gag in the film about an old codger getting hit by lightning SE7EN...I mean, *seven* times throughout his life. The old B/W handcranked-looking footage of the strikes is amusing the first couple of times. Tedious to see them all.

  • Dec. 6, 2008, 10:32 p.m. CST

    sooo did you like it?

    by BurgerKing

    Like holy fuck. I wanted to read the last paragraph just to see his final thoughts but I just got shit about like blowing in the wind and about how great AICN is.

  • Dec. 23, 2008, 3:33 p.m. CST

    AHHH! SO LATE! Well, Good luck Moriarty!

    by iamnicksaicnsn

    You, after thinking about it, are the most consistently good reviewer here. Lord knows I could never leave this site, but now I have to go to another one? AH! But thanks for all the memories, I'll always remember going back and forth with you a bit over the genius that was Grindhouse when I got back from a midnight screening of it. Best of luck to you, Toshi, and the Wife.

  • Dec. 23, 2008, 8:58 p.m. CST

    I miss ya man...

    by The Amazing G

    I miss ya :(