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TERMINATOR: SALVATION Web Poster thingee
Hey folks, Harry here with something pretty nifty - it's the new poster for TERMINATOR SALVATION, but as this fun motion & music & sound effect thing. Don't you think this means it'll be the greatest thing ever?
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That kinda rocks!
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Still, not that geeked about another Terminator movie.
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does anyone else think that los Angeles 2009 looks a lot like a terminator skeleton? Wow, the promotions people really lucked out with that one.
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sick.
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I wasn't old enough to appreciate T2, so I'm wicked excited for this...can't wait to see how this whole trilogy works out.
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...my screen's not big enough to see the whole thing at once, so the effect is sort of lost.
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I hope billboards start doing this, like the ads in Minority Report. If I'm not getting my flying cars, I better get my moving movie posters. Something needs to do something it's not supposed to do.
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cool flash poster!
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...just wait for the radiation to kill the surviving humans? Then they can just sit back, relax, and do whatever evil robots do when they're not killing people.
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in Harry's last statement... he must think this movie is gonna suck dick just because of McFuckingG
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If you had your way, what would be the "perfect" way to end the Terminator franchise. I mean, you're playing with time travel, future realities... what do you think?
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Nov. 25, 2008, 7:51 p.m. CST
They should make digital posters like this for movie theatres.
by Mike_D
Think about it, animated posters in digital frames.
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the poster was. Still, I hope it doesn't start a trend. A picture is worth a thousand words. Look at all the classic movie posters out there. I would hate to see that art form die.
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with the two hot guys going at it?
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but was actually really cool.
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On facebook!
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Nov. 25, 2008, 8:08 p.m. CST
"The End Begins" needs to fucking die and die quickly
by Liberty Valance
It was used as the tagline for God of War II and more recently for Tom Clancy's EndWar ("Let the end begin"). I realize creativity is dead in Hollywood but "The end begins" and every variation thereof isn't witty, clever or inventive. I ususally don't get pissed off at trivial shit like this but for fuck's sake I'm sick of that slogan.
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I'd rather jerk off with a cheese grater than watch that again. Fucking terrible.
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At least they tried to make it look somewhat as Downtown, L.A. They should make this poster, like the ones back on the 80's with the cars and their lights getting 'light up'
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Nov. 25, 2008, 8:15 p.m. CST
yubnubrocks, the perfect way to end the terminator franchise
by Leafy McPlantsalot
arnold is lowered into the molten lead and then a sarah conners is heard in voice over saying that she now has hope for the future, because if a robot, a terminator can learn the value of human life, than maybe we can too. That would be the perfect end for this franchise
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touche...
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why not just call it T4?!
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gay
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At worst, I can imagine that seeming incredibly tacky. A derivation of the kind of thing Quint would discretely click over whilst compiling the holiday gift guide, but made to a suitably luxurious standard, a high definition digital image, a purty frame n' some twinkly lights, that could be something interesting. Hardly a revolution, or something to engender the "death of an art form", not for some time anyway, but an interesting thing to have as part of the movie 21st century theatre experience. <p> Before seeing the latest movie posters became a staple diet of my interwubs browsing, I always used to enjoy seeing upcoming films upon the walls of my local flick house. I remember seeing the Truman Show poster for example, and being somewhat beguiled by it before I know much of the film itself.<p> If it comes to be, I would imagine perhaps it just another thing to be distracted by, if nothing else, and help fuel the pre-movie buzz of anticipation and cautious excitement before stepping through to the experience proper.<p> I don't quite believe in the idea that no interesting poster art anymore, there are (and always will be) the artists to do so, I would say, whether it would be fully explored by studio marketing departments, is another question, I suppose.<p> Anyhows, considering the way things have gone in recent times (the campaign for The Dark Knight springs to mind), such things don't seem quite so unlikely anymore.<p>Fun to think about.
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The new series of terminator movies deal with the nuclear war and man vs the machines. it eventually leads up to the machines sending the terminator to 1984 and the humans sending kyle reese to defend sarah conner. it comes full circle. it's a time causality loop. unless they change history.
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Thanks a lot, you robot bastards.
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It happened in 2003, re: Rise of the Machines. Yes, I know it happens on a different date in Sarah Connor Chronicles too, but if this is a movie about the Future War, fucking follow the same continuity you've already established.
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Cameron's theme was that you control your destiny, not fate. Then the new directors go back and decide, no, no it's fate after all and nothing you do will stop it. Fuck you all for shitting on the originals. Am I the only one that thinks this?
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Agreed 100%. To hell with T3, Chronicles, and all this shit. It ended when Cameron left the franchise.
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but my hope for this movie has gone down a bit since learning who the writers were, I'll still give it a chance though.....
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Alternate timelines. So if you want to think that Terminator 2 was the end of the series, you totally can, cause the series follows that logic. Like Reese said, "One possible future. From your point of view... I don't know tech stuff. "
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....it really is! Finally this Robot wankfest will fucking end soon. Do you guys realize both Transformers 2 AND Terminator 4 (aka, minus Cameron and Arnie, plus Mcleprechaun and shitty film) are coming out in the summer of 09? That's sounding like shit already. I'll see this in theatres due to curiosity, but no chance in hell will I make the mistake of watching Transformers 2. And my mind will probably be drifting off to the Avatar trailer shown before Terminator the entire movie.
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It's just a little downwind of the radiation! Wow, some things never change....
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the extreme dopeness factor of that. It needs to be a digital poster (of some kind) in movie theatres across the globe.
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Agreed. They should stick with what was established in T3. What people think of the movie is irrelevant... it's still an official part of the movie series.
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Right?
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I'm going. Period.
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Pretty obvious what it was going to morph into. You can almost see the Terminator's face in the first frame.
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crap movie, he can only make it bearable. He did a great acting job in 3:10 to Yuma, but it didn't make that movie suck any less.
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because I can't see sh!t, Captain.
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Yeah Charlies Angels sucked, but did anyone expect the director of Elf to give us a kick-ass Ironman movie? The stuff I've seen so far looks good, granted I don't check out spoilers and shit cause I don't want to ruin every movie I see. Good casting, good trailer. Why is everyone so cynical?
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what the hell am i looking at??
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...Seems more appropriate here, then in the star trek talkbacks. They're not even talking about Trek anymore over there.
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They are already here. I went to see Mr Bond in the weekend and thery had a LCD panel displayed portrait with an animated poster for some chick flick like The Women. As I recall it was laid out exactly like a normal poster with title at the bottom and cinema fine print, but with a couple of the actors doing something on it like acting a bit goofy in a friends-ish opening sequence type manner (not a scene preview or trailer etc).
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And it's taken the form of an animated graphic image! ON THE INTERNET! (GASP!!) <p> DuntDuntDunt-Dun-Dun
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The more clevererer they get with marketing, the more I get red flags.
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It goes . . . THE END? <P> It will be a tremendous cinematic experience. <P> I should be studio head of production. <P> But at least there were no TEENS evident.
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uh, ok. Am I supposed to be wetting my pants now or something?
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Nov. 25, 2008, 11:09 p.m. CST
Why don't the humans worry about the time machine more than skyn
by Gorehog
Seriously, they said that they had Skynet on the ropes, they were about to win when Skynet sent back a terminator to kill John Connor. Why not focus on destroying the seeds of time machine technology as well as skynet?
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Like with the last two AVP movies. It could start out as a pixilated screen and then morph into somebody getting fucked in the ass.
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Obviously, the concept of time travel has never been touched on in the Terminator movies. Why don't they just keep going back to the first movie and kill Sarah Connor? Why was there a T-2? Just remake the first one over and over!
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...T3 was seriously like a MadTV parody of T2 stretched out to two hours, and SCC was the only time I've ever personally deemed a franchise "Unsalvageable."
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This movie might rock. Just a feeling. Better than 3 is my guarantee.
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We learn in T1 that John Connor wouldn't have been born if the time machine hadn't been built as his father came from the future back to 1984. In T2, we learn Skynet wouldn't have been built without the technology from the future - hence creating another onotological paradox. <p> However, it would make sense to destroy the machine before anything got sent back. In theory, John wouldn't be born but then neither would Skynet come into existence. <p> Mind you, the time stream is so confused and polluted, nothing is certain about that and probably it wouldn't work now, with so many people going back in time, it's a real mess.
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FYI, Skynet is real. It's part of a UK military satellite communications system that's still running to this day. The first one was launched in 1969 and more have been launched since. <p> True story.
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I don't see anything. WTF?
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People that don't like the events like judgement day changing days or years... get over it. The first film is about time travel.
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Neat idea for a poster and all. But forgive me for being skeptical of the film. It really has all the makings of fertilizer.
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I mean, doesn't this just scream Eddie? "Scream for me, Christian Bale! Scream for me!"<p>They should really let them do the theme song.<p>As for "The End Begins" - will that make sense to most people who probably thought this whole business already ended years ago?
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I hear there's all these fancy ass 3DTVs that don't require glasses for viewing, sure they're not quite there at the holy shit depth look without glasses, but if they get the better models and install them as flat screen panels where the posters should be, then they can just change the screen image... hell maybe have a rotation of posters that are 3D-like and animated! C'mon get with the future already! Give Panasonic a call I hear they're already on the ball getting blu-ray to be the standard for future 3D flicks.
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The "fate is what we make it" doesn't make any sense in the second one, because if the machines never existed, then they could never have come back in the first-place (and john conner wouldn't have been born either). T3 fixes this problem so that the war still happens, and I'm hoping the prequels will keep the timeline working properly, so by the end of the first movie the machines should send back the T-100, then by the end of the second send back the t-1000, then by the end of the last one as a desperate attempt send back the t-x. Thus, the timelines will make sense again.
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Microsoft said to be disappointed but has been discussing plans for SkyNet to provide manpower to help getting it's Yahoo buyout moving again. [Nerd]
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It happened in 1997. Terminator 3 was fan fiction.
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but in australia the cinemas i go to just chuck high def lcd screens on their sides and play loops of movie poster images and animations. Some put the trailer on too. Bride Wars is the first i've seen with a full video "poster." They have that there over your side too? I'm guessing so because australia is usually the last to get anything cool like that. Moving posters indeed.
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You sometimes see on LCD screens in cafes. Out with ye olde, in with the new I say!
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i was expecting a lot better. still i look forward to this
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Fuck JJ Abrams.
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I mean... It's McG, people!
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Nov. 26, 2008, 3:41 a.m. CST
Who cares when AVATAR is fucking our eyeballs in 2009?
by Motoko Kusanagi
nobody
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Got high hopes for this flick, but McGinty needs to win over the masses with a substantive trailer.
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we're headed that way
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Apparently it "lacks bite"
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Damn You Michael Bay
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But defo need a new trailer pronto. Also, if any film could do with a TDK style viral campaign, it's this.
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I can see my house from here :)
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Kyle Reese IS John Connor (and consequently his own father). He just missed his momma.
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... I find it very difficult to get seriously excited about this movie.<br><br>Sure, it's got Terminators and Terminators are always cool. Sure, it's gonna show all the cool future war stuff that (let's be honest) they never had the budget OR technology to do properly (even T2 - with SFX as they were at the time you would have had to spend $300 million to achieve what you can now with CGI). Sure, it's got a quality actor in the lead role - ANY leading role - for arguably the first time in the franchise. It's got all that, but I still feel pretty "meh" about it.<br><br>Part of this is obviously the awfulness of T3. I am STILL trying to work out how I actually OWN a genuine, paid-for copy of this film. I'm pretty sure it was on special offer, but that doesn't excuse it. My only mitigation is that I was smoking a HELL of a lot of dope around the time I bought it...<br><br>I really don't get why people are freaking out over the timeline continuity, though. I mean, it's not as though Cameron tried to make a serious, scientific treatise on the theoretical implications of time travel. He made a low budget, kick-ass sci-fi/horror film that IN NO WAY needed sequels. T2 may possibly be the greatest action film ever made (for me it's Die Hard, but the vote would be close), but that doesn't erase the fact that it is a sequel to a movie that didn't need sequelising. In that movie, Cameron himself created the most impossible of all paradoxes (that the machines can only ever be created by a machine coming back in time), so compared to that what does it matter if the date of a certain event changes?
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As people have chipped in with the odd Avatar comment here already, I thought I'd just say this:<br><br>Has anyone else seen the concept art for the Na'vi or whatever they're called? Think it's on latinoreview.com but not sure...<br><br>If so, am I the only one a little underwhelmed by it?<br><br>Ok, it might not be genuine for a start and in any case I'm CERTAINLY reserving judgement until I've seen some proper footage fully animated, but it just seems to me to look like a tall, thin, blue-skinned HUMAN with funky hair!<br><br>I accept that they are going to need vaguely human facial features and be essentially humanoid in build, but I can't help but feel a little disappointed that these aliens don't look more, well, ALIEN...
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and then having "The end begins" as the strapline. <P>You absolute fucking idiots. That line totally contradicts the fucking TITLE of the movie you're meant to be selling. Call it Terminator: Genocide or change the strap to "The fightback begins" and it might make some fucking sense.
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It's not gonna be a problem to make a more exciting movie as T3. I seem to finally get a Terminator film I wanted, one with loads of Endo skeletons and other heavy duty hardcore machines going after human mankind. I don't care about the story, just a lot of crazy cool mayhem please, thank you.
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You know it's true.<br> <br>
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anything but crap. I'm crossing my fingers, but have less anticipation for this than most of the FX-heavy stuff from the last 2 yrs.<P><P>i have the same amount of aniticpation for T:S as I do for Avatar - 1 is a liked franchise that's gotten iffy, the other is an unknown by a usually FX-interesting director.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGjZrFQK630
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this should be good. bale does not disappoint. except for that dragon movie. but he can pick what he wants now.
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was Trunks from Dragonball Z. Fuck you for laughing. Oddly enough, it was a Terminator ripoff of sorts. Trunks grows up in a future where Goku has died of a rare disease. Two androids were created that are destroying everything, and only Goku could stop them. After his death, a cure was made for the disease. Trunks travels into the past, gives Goku the cure, he lives, and he's able to save the world from the androids.<br><br>So why is that the best time travel story? Because Trunks can't go into his own happy future. He created an alternate timeline in which none of what happened in his reality happened. He can only return to his own time, where events played out as they did. But Goku and co. keep on trucking through their happy existence, where Goku didn't die.<br><br>The point is this: the story doesn't have to loop backwards. Let's see what happened after Kyle was sent back in time (though we already know, it doesn't change anything).
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as some people here are discussing this, here's the text from the press release: "Closer to the launch of the film, the motion poster will be visible on billboards in selected cities worldwide." and "Motion posters are the latest in poster marketing technology in which a poster scene morphs into another image, as seen in the recent marketing campaign for SPE’s “Quantum of Solace.” meaning: yes, it's moving. somehow.
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And the phrase "The end begins" is really retarded too.
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Nov. 26, 2008, 8:52 a.m. CST
Yes, excellent, time travel has fucked everything up.
by Leafar the Lost
I advice everyone to stay away from time travel plots, but in the end it just fucks everything up. I expect that this will end with someone going back in time to fix everything...
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The best way to end Terminator would be to reveal that there IS no John Connor- or rather that there are several. 'John Connor' is just the generic name given to the various leaders of the resistance. The John Connor of the first 2 films is merely a nobody, someone to distract Skynet.
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This morning's unprecedented solar eclipse is no cause for alarm
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Anybody else around who has it ? Easily my greatest film-related item I've ever won on eBay. For only 10 GBP ! (Never mind the high postage costs that came with it). It has about 8 stages, if you walk past it the house morphs into the monster, reaching out to the little boy hero, it's like a full second of motion. It's glorious.
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MAH KEYS THEYS GONE LOGGING
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I remember when Trunks returned to his crappy future, he was stronger and able to kick the shit out of those androids. I remember him runnin up on the female one yelling "this is for gohan!" and just vaporizing her ass with an energy blast to the face.<p><p> What's also funny is how the present Trunks grows up to be a pussy instead of the badass sword wielding one from the future.<p><p> Hey... this sounds like Heroes...
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Nov. 26, 2008, 10:29 a.m. CST
instead of trying to go back in time to kill John....
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
...why wouldn't the Terminators just hunt down Kyle Reese in the future and prevent him from ever going back and fathering him? Or....why the fuck wouldn't they just drop a nuke on the hospital where Sarah is giving birth? <p>Yeah. Thats why this franchise is fucking stupid.
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Nov. 26, 2008, 10:43 a.m. CST
Hey Danny Glover: Why stop there? Let's look at real life
by Stormwatcher
Why didn't we say in 2000: WTF? Florida? Old Hebrews voting for Buchanan? Simple logic says its BS. Let's not let the clear loser win? Or in 2003 say "Bagdad? Really? Badgdad? Uh... Sorry boss but even your best guy Powell says this is a stretch and all those global demonstrations makes us believe the world will be against us and we know that military spending is never in check and we really can't afford a war' but nah that's real world logic and that doesn't work in the movies.... err. (to be a total sarcastic dick) wait a minute, that was OUR world!!!! We did it to ourselves!!!! Holy Shit! How could we be so stupid. And then the curtain rises and we see some bored 14 year olds watching us on their PS4 laughing at how bad the latest Roland Emmerich movie is that we have been staring in since 1999. But that would be applying logic right?
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Send back virus genetic code and cook up a plague in a bathtub.
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Nov. 26, 2008, 10:56 a.m. CST
Does anyone know of a movie that might give me a good eyeball fu
by Xian042
been looking for one
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Ugly, ugly, ugly.
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posted on aicn some time ago regarding avatar, and this company behind a new poster technology being developed where there's actual movement when you pass it, as opposed to the usual cheesy lenticular effect? there was a link to said company's website that showcased a clip of this soccer player dribbling a ball and it was awesome as hell. cameron expressed interest in using this technology in unison with advertisement for avatar.
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I can't wait for the heavey metal to come and wipe out all those hollywood dipshits!
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Nov. 26, 2008, 11:27 a.m. CST
Avatar test footage they now claim is fake....
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
http://tinyurl.com/64sa65
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I was like "what the hell" where's this music coming from on my computer, for a second thought it was one of those pop-up talking Fleshlight ads.
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OK nerds, here is the deal. While you all bitch and moan about timelines and continuity, you have to keep in mind that most of America is a bunch of morons. <br> Most people don't think about time travel that much to even realize that these movies MAKE NO SENSE. With Christian "Mr. 1 Billion in Box Office Sales" Bale in the lead role, I expect this to do pretty well. <br> Some movies you just have to turn your brain off... I think this is one of them.
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It's all fun and games until some one starts a nuke war.
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DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD, that was awesome. http://tinyurl.com/64sa65
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In the first movie, Kyle himself said no-one knew who the father of John Connor was. Skynet had no idea either. Then of course more movies came along and potentially confused that issue but originally, they did have that avenue covered.
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John Connor is just one guy. If he goes down, someone else stands up. <P> Give it up, Skynet, you're a loser in every timeline.
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does not mean the movie will be. I am going to see it but with low expectations.
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this is a WB movie..fake?
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Where Robocop accidentally gave Skynet its sentience? they should film that.
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there'd be geeks drowning in their own spunk!
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...he flip flops between good and bad all the time. And actually to be honest he hasn't given a good performance since American Psycho. Batman? That was only good because of Nolan and the supporting cast. Machinist? All he did was lose a lot of weight, gimmicky performance. I think there are much much much much better actors out there.
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That has got to be the greatest fucking line I've read in years. Somebody please put it in the movie. Thanks, kabong. That made my day.
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But I already hated T3. Any Terminator movie without Cameron involved is a waste of time.
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The only winning move is not to play. <p> How about a nice game of chess?
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You're on.
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My reaction as follows: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_6ULx73bFk
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What, John Connor's supposed to be the second coming of Christ? I'm looking forward to the flick, but that title makes my oatmeal hit the wall.
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How would I end the franchise? I've always been bothered by the idea that Skynet's big idea once it achieves sentience is to fuck up the planet's ecology. What does Skynet GAIN from that? The flicks never really explain WHY Skynet makes the decision to start this disastrous war. The only conclusion the story (so far) has left us is that Skynet isn't just sentient - it's also insane. The Matrix got around that problem by making it the humans that fuck the planet up. So, I'd finish off the whole Terminator narrative by having Skynet act in self-defense as a REACTION to the actions of the time-travelling humans who want to destroy it. In other words, if Kyle Reese had never been sent back in time and John Connor had never been born, then Judgement Day never would have happened. In fact, the Terminators are trying to kill John Connor in order to PREVENT Judgement Day from happening. Sure, it creates a temporal paradox of silly proportions, but this is Terminator and paradoxes have never been a problem for the series before!
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Brilliant!
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And then John Connor learns of the paradox and has to send himself back in time to kill himself...
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...But does he fail or succeed? Depends on what kind of ending you want. What do you think?
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this film is better than the laughably terrible television show that bears the Terminator name. Thankfully, it appears that total piece of dog shit will face cancellation before the spring, given the fact that the ratings have completely tanked, quite justifiably, as each week brings a new reason to groan. If its not Sarah enrolling her son in school, placing him directly in harm's way, its his "uncle" (eyes roll skyward) Reese taking him to military training, and enrolling him there. Let us just ignore the complete lack of credibility to these actions, given the fact that there would be no way he could engage in a normal routine under the circumstances. Its truly one of the most poorly conceived programs I've ever witnessed, and that includes the terrible, overrated shitfest that Ron Moore recently created.
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Geeks are already doing that.
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Nov. 28, 2008, 1:18 a.m. CST
Yeah, Cause If The Terminator Is About Anything, Its Subtlety
by LaserPants
Riiight.
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I know that's not fair, but the guy has yet to prove his chops.
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